Speaker 1: Made a Desan john a face sunny sund on, I had.
Speaker 2: A vision.
Speaker 3: Night.
Speaker 1: So nat Hey, everybuddy, welcome.
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 1: A lot a lot going on, a lot of trials
and shit in court?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah. I almost want to I almost
want to bring up the Karen Reid thing, but then
I feel like everybody's gonna get mad at me. But
I swear to God, you are all going to come
around to my way of thinking. I have been in it.
I'm like following the trial. I'm listening to a podcast
that that give updates on every single thing about the trial,
and I am one hundred percent sure that she did
hit him with her car. Now, I think she's going
to get it. I think that there was enough police
investigation problems that is going to leave reasonable doubt. And
I definitely think she'll get off because the there's not
a lot of there's a lot of things that the
prosecution is not going to be able to. There's just
nothing they can do about it because it's the police
were stupid, right, But she hit him with her car.
Speaker 1: I mean that's Do you think it was manslaughter? Do
you think it was I think she didn't know that
she killed him. I think she was hammered, hammered, hammered
out of her mind, which she absolutely was, which literally
the next day when they tested her, she was like
three times over the legal limit. I think she barely remembers.
I think she got really angry at him. I think
they were fighting. She was super jealous. When they went
into the neighborhood where this party was, she was told, Oh,
that's the house where this girl that John had been
sleeping with but a while ago, like a couple of
years before. So she even says Karen even says, oh, yeah,
that was he'd been seeing this woman who lived. Is
that why she kept calling her him a pervert? Yeah,
because where did pervert come from?
Speaker 2: I think she thinks he's a cheater. I think she was.
I think she is borderline personality, which is something I
want to discuss on our Patreon this week, a personal
experience with it. I think she's just borderline personality, which
puts her in a blind rage over the idea. I
think she constantly thought he was cheating on her, I mean,
which has been proven right. She was jealous of everybody.
She was constantly accusing him of fucking somebody else. And
I think she lost her mind, was mad at him,
and then when he wanted was like sick of her shit.
He probably told her to fuck off. He had a
drink in his hand. He was drunk too, and got
out of the car and she was like fuck you
and backed into him. Knew that she backed into him
then left him like figured, I think her mind. She
figured he's fine, like she hit him, but she probably
didn't hit him that hard, but he she did hurt him,
and then he fell and hit his head, so she
knew exactly where he was. When she came back the
next day, she kept saying to people, I think I
could have hit him. I think I hit him. Did
I hit him? My tail light's broken. Then she knew
exactly where he was and found him immediately. So if
she saw him go into the house, why explain to
me why she would have gone back to the scene
and immediately found him.
Speaker 1: Well, because they were going back to the scene to
look for him, but he was over on the side
of the house, but he was out front on the ground,
so she look and she also was.
Speaker 2: Like where is he? Could he have been hit by
a snowplow? Could he have been like? Yeah, why would
she think that, Why would you think, guys, I think.
Speaker 1: She was also like that type of chick that drives
me nuts. Or she's like yelling their names Jen Jen
like he's dad. Like she's just like one of those
right crazy.
Speaker 2: But why would she think that if he was drunk
and went into the house to go to a party
with his friends, Why wouldn't you assume that he just slept,
that he just like fell asleep. Why would you assume.
Speaker 1: Because they said, because they said to her, he never
came inside the house. They told her that, so you know,
I understood. I I don't think it's this huge cover
up where fifteen people are saying the same thing. I
don't know what some I think that it could have
been a couple guys inside the house. Something happened. The
thing is is what I don't get is I don't
I just can't see the tail light breaking that tale,
that kind of what it's made, that tail light, what
it's made out of, shattering into those many pieces getting
hit by a car. Even the medical examiner was like, uh,
she I think she didn't call it that it was hit,
that he was hit by a car. It was I
think she didn't come to a conclusion of how he died.
And there's experts of car accidents, and I just don't
see that many pieces of tail light shattering like that
and that kind of injury on his arm. That's the thing.
I can't get past the injuries and the tail light
just killing him like or getting into his arms. That
that's the crazy thing.
Speaker 2: He died of a head injury.
Speaker 1: He died of ahead of it. But but I don't
see that tail light like breaking into so many pieces
after getting hit by a car.
Speaker 2: Well, the car that made is that the car did that,
she did hit, she did back up at like twenty
five miles per hour and and and did hit and
did hit something that at that time. I mean, that
is what the evidence shows. Well, what did the defense's car?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: The defense is just trying. The defense is saying, okay,
but he somebody beat him up in the house. But
why and why are all these people covering up?
Speaker 1: I don't think it's all these twenties. I don't think
there's a bunch of people. I think that I think
that it could have been a couple of shady cops
and they took care of it. What if he dies
unexpectedly inside their home. What are they gonna do with
the body, so they have to cover they have to
figure something out if it happened inside the home. I
just the butt dialing stuff and why.
Speaker 2: Why something?
Speaker 1: But why, like why sell that house that's been in
that and for generations? Why sell the home? Why why
rehome the dog where nobody knows where the dog is anymore?
Why get rid of your cell phone? Destroy your cell phone?
And why everybody lawyered up? If you're just a witness
to something that happened, Why do you have lawyers? Why
do they all lawyer up? It just seems really shady
and it casts reasonable doubt for sure.
Speaker 2: Definitely cast reasonable doubt. Yeah, but I one hundred percent
think that Opkham's razor. The most obvious answer is what happened?
It's I think it's anyway. Yeah, we're never going to
get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 1: Nobody's ever.
Speaker 2: I'm making a lot of enemies from our audience members
who think that I'm the crazy one. But I found
this podcast that agrees with me, and of course everybody
went and review bombed that podcast and they're like, you
don't you're wrong, Like it was a cover up, and
so now the podcast has like one point something stars
because of you know, I just think that the free
care and read people are well, those people pray, but
there's apparently there are way fewer of them. But listen, everybody,
it's like a worse Shark test, like everybody sees things
the way they see it. Yeah, there's definitely some shady stuff.
I'm not denying that. I just think that she hit
him with her car, whether that is what killed him,
I do not think she did it. I think she
purposely did get mad and back into him. It was
like fuck you. And I do not think she saw
him go into the house. I think that's an absolute lie.
And I do not think she sat there for ten
minutes and waited for him and was like only got
mad that he didn't call her and say, hey, it's
a fun party. That did not happen.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna leave him, like back into him with
your car and you'd think he's gonna be okay, why
do it at a house with a bunch of cops,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I don't think she was thinking about that. I think
she was really mad. She went into blind rages and
she was so drunk. I think she was just like
fuck you, and then backed up and hit him and
then was like, oh shit, did I hit him? And
then later goes to back to his house and then
is like, she's still mad at him. You know, why
didn't he come home? Why is he just out partying,
probably fucking some girl, which is what she thought, like
happy as a clam. And I'm here worried about him.
And then she's getting herself more and more enraged, right,
and then I think it occurred to her. The other thing.
Speaker 1: The last thing too, is the cop that lived at
the house is a season detective and at five six
o'clock in the morning, there's all this freaking commotion outside
and you don't get up to go see what's going
on outside, Like and why didn't somebody want run into
the house, Like why didn't they run into the house
to see if anybody else is dead inside the house?
I just I don't know. Just it's really it's really weird.
Shady cops man, Boston cops, yea from Boston, go fuck yourself?
Speaker 2: Okay. More importantly, I watched this documentary and then I
was like had to be in my bonnet for like
Oh my god, I need what what happened? So I
text Lynnette and I'm like, did you watch? I was like,
you have to watch this documentary so we can discuss it.
And then you were like, already one step ahead of you,
already watched it. It's called American Marriage. Hold on, I
gotta yeah, it had a called Deadly American Marriage. Yes, okay,
but I set the stage for people. This is a
Netflix documentary and it is about this guy Irish. He's
an irishman.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 2: He his wife dies of an asthma attack. Okay, he
hires He's got these two very young kids, so he
hires an O pair and the O pair is this
cute young blonde woman from America. Yeah, so she goes,
she goes out to Ireland and she's his nanny. Next thing,
you know, they together.
Speaker 1: They get married.
Speaker 2: The family is like, huh. The family of the woman
who does the first wife is like, that's interesting, Like
she's pretty young and that was very fast, but like
they seem in love, Like good for him, right. The
family of the girl is like, yeah, all right, I
guess I guess he seems she's happy, you know. So
they get married. She's very overly interested in the kids,
like she becomes their stepmother immediately. She's immediately trying to
file paperwork to adopt the kids, right, and he's like,
not so fast, because could she have kids? No?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right, So anyway, long story short, the crime is that
and you find this out right away, okay, so it's
okay to discuss it. It's not a spoiler alert. It's
basically what the story is about it because it kind
of opens this way that the dad and the woman.
The woman are they living with her parents at some
point like why is the dad even there?
Speaker 1: Now? I think that they lived like maybe an hour
away and they were staying there.
Speaker 2: They did say why yah, yeah yeah, and they were
supposed to be going to do something else. The mother
and the father of the of the girl who's married
to the guy, the irishman, they're staying with them, And
that comes up later because apparently they were supposed to
be doing something else but they canceled their plans. But
they lied and said, oh no, we didn't really have
any plans, had nothing to do that night, so we
decided to stay overnight. But there are other people that
were like, no, they were supposed to go do this
other wing and they bailed. Okay, so they they're they're claiming.
The woman claims that her husband was trying to choke
her and was abusive, and the dad because the.
Speaker 1: Base because the daughter woke up with a nightmare and
in the middle of the night, and he like he
woke up like blaming the wife or so, I don't know,
got mad at her and then was taking she says,
taking it out on her, and he started choking her.
Speaker 2: So he starts choking her. Then she's screaming. Then the dad,
the father wakes up, comes running says, oh, I heard
my daughter screaming. There's so many weird India. This is
like as bad as Karen Reid, because he like, hold
hold on a minute. Yeah. So the dad claims that
he heard his daughter screaming for help. So he goes
and he doesn't know what's going on. But meanwhile the
mother who's in bed with the dad, is like, yeah,
I woke up too, because and but he said he
was gonna go check it out, grabs a baseball bout.
So I went back to sleep and don't know and
know nothing because I slept through it. Yeah, okay, your husband,
you're somebody's screaming in the house. You're her husband, who's
sleeping next to you, grabs a baseball bat and you're like,
he's got it right. No, no, no, she's lying, she's lying. Yeah,
But so the dad goes up, get off, my daughter
beats him with a baseball bat. Then then she picks
up a.
Speaker 1: Brick has happens to be a big brick.
Speaker 2: A big, huge brick on her night side table.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the size of remote control car. Yes, yeah,
And and decides and then uses that.
Speaker 2: And dashes his head in.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And there's proof from blood from the blood shatter that
he was being hit while he was still down, while
he was down.
Speaker 2: On the ground, and there's blood in several rooms. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So like he was like they chased.
Speaker 2: Him from room to room and like beat him to death. Yeah. Okay,
So you see this, the woman, the girl that the
wife of the irishman is seems so like something's up,
something seems so up with her. Right when she was younger,
she was like a pathological liar. She told all these
even as an adult, she was a liar. And she
told people current day that those were her kids, that
she was their biological mother. Right, she made up a life.
So there's a lot weird about that. So you go
through the documentary and you're like, well, this is she's crazy,
and they but why is the dad lying?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: But then you're like, but she's claiming, claiming, claiming, no,
he was abusive. I just hadn't told anybody. So then
you're like, okay, so did she get her dad so
entrenched in her story about being abused that he was like,
I'll do anything to protect my daughter. Now I'm going
to lie about it, right, okay. But then later in
the documentary and this this is a little bit of
a spoiler, so just close your ears or skip forward
like in a minute. But then she apparently put a
recording device in the rooms, and you do hear this
guy being abusive, like being like a gaslighter. He's kind
of yelling at her. He seems really jealous, and he's like,
why aren't basically kind of why aren't you a better wife?
Why are you? And you really do hear her going
like I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Okay, yeah, I'll do better,
like and you're like, hold up, what the fuck? Like
he's not this great guy that they're making him out
to be he was kind of an asshole. So now
I don't know.
Speaker 1: Right, So then you're like, well, wait a second. There
was also something else.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know what you're gonna say. Yeah, there was
the fact that it had gotten so bad that the
grandmother created like a safe word for the kids. Is
that what you were going to say? No?
Speaker 1: I forgot about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. They had a code word so that if the
kids were scared of their dad, they could call their
grandparents and give them the code word.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: That.
Speaker 1: The other thing was when the kids were being interviewed
right after the killing happened, they seemed really rehearsed.
Speaker 2: Yes, they were like, yes, it's for my father. My
mother was being physically and verbally abused.
Speaker 1: Yes, physically and verbally, yeah, abuse it. And this kid
was like seven, he was talking. What a studious kid,
by the way, because he just he just repeated what
somebody told him that the.
Speaker 2: Son was so cute, wasn't he cute? Oh my god,
he was so cute. Both the kids were absolutely adorable.
Speaker 1: I know, they were really cute kids. And yeah, so
then they get sent to go live with his family,
who don't seem don't think of him as an abusive
guy and then come to find out spoil alert but
that oh yeah.
Speaker 2: They're like, absolutely, he didn't do anything to them. They
were coached, right, And then the kids years later are like,
you know what, we were coached. Our mother told us
to lie. And then they recant.
Speaker 1: Their what they said that morning.
Speaker 2: But they said that morning and they're like, no, we
were told to say that by our mother, and we
never Our father was a great guy and he never
did anything. But like, I don't know what to believe.
Speaker 1: I know, I don't I think it's a combination of both.
I think he was an asshole, but I think that
she might have had like enough of him, and then
he might have came after her, and then she went
after him tenfold. And then the dad jumped in, and
then the dad who was also an FBI interrogator, like
that's what he did for a living, I know. And
now he's getting in tard right, which is he's.
Speaker 2: Being very weird, very FBI like, yeah, he knows exactly
what to say and what not to say.
Speaker 1: I know, I don't know what. I think it's a
combination of both.
Speaker 2: All these fuckers are up to something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think I.
Speaker 2: Well, I think I agree with you. I don't know.
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Terms and conditions apply seaside for details. Yes, yeah, So
what do I think happened? I'm unclear. I think that
the guy probably was an asshole, like you said, and
I think something happened and they both had enough of it.
But then I think the dad, I think she killed
him and the dad cover and the dad wanted to
take the fall.
Speaker 1: Yeah I could see that. Yeah, I mean it. It's
another case where nobody's ever gonna know what really happened.
But but then so the other stuff I've been watching,
I've been watching a lot of p Diddy stuff. I
highly have recommend the Two Angry Men podcast with Harvey
Levin and Mark Garragos. It's really good and hysterical because
they just they get along, They have great chemistry. They
go over all these court cases. Big win for the
Menendez brothers last week.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what's the scoop?
Speaker 1: So now they're being re sentenced, But basically it's going
in front of a parole board in June, and Geragos
is very pretty confident that he's gonna be able to
that they're gonna get out because now it's just up
to the parole board. And then I think it has
to go in front of Newsome, which Newson was going
to have them out anyway. So it looks like in
June they'll probably be getting out.
Speaker 2: And that's one that I can get behind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and they had to get out twenty
four family members that are all wanting him out, including
their sisters of the mother.
Speaker 2: So you know Dad, that dad, come on, he was
a monster, yes, yeah, and he raped him in noodo right, yes,
like you know, there were insinuating circumstances. Now where those
guys are the Menanda's brothers also assholes who like probably
were very excited about getting that money.
Speaker 1: They were excited about getting her money. Yes, yeah, for
sure there.
Speaker 2: Were young rich kids who hated their dad understandably but
also shot the mom in cold blood. Listen. But all
that being said, yes, they did a lot of time.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so, and they've rehabilitated themselves and also like
done started programs in jail. There's a guy that was out,
he was at court last week that talked about how
they were like his mentors and they got him on
the straight and narrow. So when he got out he
became an advocate for them that they've changed his life.
So yeah, that was a big win. And then the
other thing, I was, Oh, the Blake Lively thing. She's
just a piece of work. But apparently you know, I'm
sure you've heard about it that she tried to tell
asked Taylor Swift to uh, just to make a statement
to stand by her as a friend, and Taylor Swift
was like, absolutely not and then then threatened her with
like I'm gonna release it's like ten years of friendship
of our text messages if you don't delete your text message.
Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently within that was gonna be stuff that Taylor
said about Travis Kelsey. Who knows what that is, but
maybe from the beginning of the relationship, right, Yeah, there's
all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3: And threatening Taylor Swift is a bold move. Yeah, why
would you even go? Why would you do that?
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, that's your losses. She needs to
cut her losses over everything at this point, try and settle.
Where is this going to go? I don't think it's
going to go to trial, But are really really gonna
let Taylor Swift get up there and be deposed? You know?
I mean they're gonna have to go through her friendship
and to ask her about text messages and are you
really her dragon and all the shit, and yeah, according
to TMZ, she doesn't want anything to do with it.
Speaker 2: I feel like, if you're Blake and you get this
far into it, aren't you kind of worried that now
you've dragged your husband into it, You've dragged Taylor Switch, Like,
aren't you Like what's Ryan Reynolds thinking at this point?
Speaker 1: Well, I think he's the brains behind a lot of it,
you do, Oh yeah, I think Ryan Reynolds is an asshole,
narcissistic control freak. I think that, you know, he's not.
He wants the public to think he's just this fun,
self deprecating dude. And I either think he was jealous
of Baldoni or or just wanting to control everything. I
don't know, but I think he had a lot to
do with it, you know, sending him text messages about
you know, I would get your picture tattooed on my
tinked if you would move the start date of the
of the filming to so I can be there around
the set and not be away doing Marvel stuff. And
the fact that he did nice Pool and making fun
of him, like and they're subpoening. They are Baldoni's people
are sent a subpoena to get all of this stuff
from Marvel about how did how did nice Pool come about?
Let's hear about whose idea was it to do nice Pool?
What kind of storyboard did you guys do? And because
it's obviously done, you know, added an expense to Baldoni,
you know, And I think, yeah, I think ty, I
think Ryan Reynolds as a I think he's a piece
of shit after all this, I think he's a bully interesting. Yeah,
and I wanted to like him. I used to like him,
but now it's like and then he's like doing like podcast,
Like he was on Conan's podcast and he was talking
about how he doesn't punch down, and like that's you know,
he did once and he learned his lesson, and he
brought up some story from twenty years ago, and it's like,
there's a now eant in the room. You absolutely punched down.
You were punching down at Baldoni. You You're not going
to do this to the simple favorite director who's an
established director. You're going to do it to the you
know man bun, you know, women loving peace whatever, you know,
kumbacha tea drinking dude, you know, right, And and that's
the guy you're gonna steamroll. And that's what they did.
They tried to steamroll.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also Blake's whole thing was that she likes
to like sign on to agree to just be an
actress and then but I like to get in there
and like really be the director and and take control.
She said, she that's her. That's her m O. Right, yeah,
and that's what she did here, right, And then she
tried to take the movie away from him. She did
full rewrites.
Speaker 1: And he never saw the final cut.
Speaker 2: No, because she kicked him off of it.
Speaker 1: And then she's saying like I wanted I like she's
saying in text messages that she wanted to recut the
movie and everything. And then fast forward to her on
the red carpet and she's going, my husband, the iconic
rooftop scene was all done. That's all my husband. I
probably shouldn't be saying that, but that was all my husband.
It's like, okay, that there, you know, there's if I
was Baldoni's lawyers'll be like, okay, exhibit A. You know,
I just close closed. But I just think that they
they got a little too ahead of themselves and they're bullies,
and I just I hate that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. And then she tried to get Colleen
Hoover totally on her side, right, and then the two
of them were being like mean girls about it, right,
and all she wanted to do is member sell her
jeans like she's not a serious person. No, these are
not serious people.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, she doesn't she can't read the room.
When she was promoting the movie.
Speaker 2: And when they were talking about how you know in
that scene that they showed the uncut version of the dance,
the scene where they're dancing, where she claims she felt
so uncomfortable and she had to keep saying like, don't
I don't think we should kiss. But if you watch
the whole thing, he's not doing anything that bad. He's
not like he's totally listening to her, but he has
his own vision. He wants it to be sexy, like listen,
people play more explicit sex scenes than that.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: And every time she's like, I don't think we should kiss.
I don't think we should kiss in this scene, what
does he do. He doesn't go, well, let's try it
with making out. No, He's like, oh his sister her.
Yeah yeah. He's like okay, totally, but like we'll just
kind of get close to it, but we won't. And
she's like, okay, great, yeah let's not kiss and he's
like okay, yeah, we won't. And then when they cut,
when they yell cut, he literally goes like he walks
the hell away from her. He's not like being inappropriate
or still touching her. When they say cut. As soon
as they say cut, he's like, yeah, I think we
got it right, right. Yeah. She's like he was making
me so uncomfortable. He was trying to like be it
wasn't written into the script, telling.
Speaker 1: Me I smell so good when you listen to it.
I mean she's like, oh, you probably smell my spray
tan and he was like smells good or whatever, which
anybody would say.
Speaker 2: What did she want him to say? Like, yeah, you
smell gross, but I'll get through it right, right.
Speaker 1: And then she's making fun of his nose and shit,
like telling him to get a nose job, just take
some time off and get that thing taken care of,
like she's insulting it. The whole thing is just crazy.
They're they're just like, but this whole thing with Taylor
Swift and the text messages, ma, and you got a
lot of nerve ye asking Taylor Swift to like put
out a tech put out a statement or and delete
your text messages or look out, and she Taylor's be.
Speaker 3: Like illegal for her to delete her text message. I mean,
if they're going through this core process and I need
her text me be like hey you need then wouldn't
that be like a liability or illegal.
Speaker 1: Or something or not supposed to do that.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, it's really weird. And Taylor Swift has
definitely not been seen with Blake Lively No anytime recently. No, yeah,
how'd you like to be the ex friend of Taylor Swift?
Your ass is gonna get a song written about you? Oh?
Hell yeah, short order.
Speaker 1: Oh, there's gonna be some Easter eggs in the next album,
that's for sure.
Speaker 2: That's for sure. Oh my god, hilarious. Okay, wait, what
else have you watched? Have you been watching Four Seasons? No,
like Tina Fay Show.
Speaker 1: Is that a Tina Fay Show?
Speaker 2: Tina Fey, it's the Four Seasons. It's a remake of
the movie The Four Seasons, So it's it's a Tina
Fey It's like about these three couples that get together
every season. You haven't seen any episodes?
Speaker 1: No, I haven't seen. I've seen, you know, promos and stuff.
I've seen it. I haven't watched it.
Speaker 2: I'm dying to know what you think about that, your
friends and neighbors. Have you been watching that? It's gotten
so bad, it's like seriously unwatchable.
Speaker 1: No, I wanted to get caught up on the studio.
So I watched that.
Speaker 3: I like how you just keep bashing your friends and
neighbors like every week, and how it's getting worse and
worse and worse, and every week you come in you
look at me, you go, have you started watching your
friends and neighbors?
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, no, because we're not sound at
all horrible. It is.
Speaker 3: Why would I start watching it?
Speaker 2: Because it's so it's just so wrong that the first
couple episodes were so good Yeah that I was like, Wow,
this is like the best show I've seen in so long.
The writing is like so crisp but so fresh and
interesting and like gripping. And then it was like, wait,
what happened?
Speaker 1: They blow their lot on the first two episodes.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I swear to god I was.
John and I were kept looking at each other and
I said, this is it's this is like AI just
like took over, like they're like okay, just right the
rest of the episodes, and then John went and found
on Reddit where somebody goes this. This last episode felt
like chat GPT wrote it, and I was so excited
that somebody felt the same as I did. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
so that sucked. I just started watching so much TV
over the last couple of days. I don't know why.
I think it's because my other podcast Rose Pricks. Normally,
I'm watching so many things because I have to, and
then I get burnt out on watching TV because I'm
like watching The Bachelor, and I'm watching The Valley, and
I was watching like Mormon Housewives and like all these shows.
But now I'm only watching The Valley once a week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm caught up on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, The Valley is. It's pretty good, but it's yeah,
there's I don't like it.
Speaker 1: Like anybody on The Valley. Yeah, it's cooked, and there's
nobody I really am rooting for.
Speaker 2: No same.
Speaker 1: I don't like anybody.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 1: I hate what's his face? Jack's He's a nightmare.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Briandy seems kind of annoying. I because I.
Speaker 2: Never watched She's really annoying. I never watched.
Speaker 1: Vanderbult, but yeah, I'm just like, eh, but I am.
I watched it. I just don't have anybody I like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of a good thing.
Speaker 3: I mean I watched The Valley too.
Speaker 2: Oh you do, Yeah, I do? Are the are the boys.
Uh are Patrick and Dylan covering it?
Speaker 3: They are? Yeah, I know that because Amy listens to
their pod. Amy loves their podcast and their recaps. And god,
who's who's the guy who's like the voiceover actor?
Speaker 1: That's what dannatt.
Speaker 3: He just calls him an alcoholic.
Speaker 2: I don't like Danny either, He's it's so bad sometimes
when I watch these shows too, like as a recovering alcoholic.
By the way, I don't know if you know. I
have a podcast called Drunkish where where I talk about sobriety,
have it with a guest and super honest and really fun.
But it's an interesting perspective when you watch a lot
of these shows feature people that clearly have drinking problems,
like Housewives, this the Valley, it's so hard to not
it's and it's not a matter of judging. It's just
that living in a world where I know a lot
of people and know what their bottom was and know
how you know what I mean, I know how drinking
problems play out. It's hard to watch it when you're like,
it's all these people denying, like no, no, no, I'm fine,
And then when you watch it you're like, Okay, so
Danny gets drunk and his behavior totally changes, and he yells,
get Daddy a drink to the black woman on the
cast and then pinches that woman's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which he did profusely apologize for. It's like, okay, fine,
and then they go for a weekend in Santa Barbara
and he's like, I gotta go back into town and
do some voiceover work, so I'm gonna be good. And
he's good, and he does that, and as soon as
he gets back, he drinks so hard and he passes
out like way before anybody else, and then causes a
huge fight between everybody just just for being drunk and
passing out. Yeah, they're falls for starting that fight, but
it's funny. It's like, as soon as he gets back
to Santa Barbara, he's passed that with him like five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's got to catch up, right.
Speaker 2: But yet the other guys have a conversation about him
and his drinking and they're like, yeah, ever since he
had that horrible thing happened at Halloween, he's been real good.
Like he just has like a few drinks, like, and
then cut to him in a pantry drinking tequila after
a wine tasting it's like and then go, so he's
not okay you guys, but yeah, compared to Jack's who's
bipolar and a coke addict. Yeah, of course Danny looks harmless,
like what he's just drinking some alcohol.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people are.
Speaker 3: Adults, That's what he was saying. It's kind of good
that you don't like anybody because there's only like one
guy out of the bunch that's like Janet's husband, and
he's boring, is felt like noble, Like Zach, he's boring
as fuck, and it's like, you know, you don't want Yeah,
you kind of want to kind of hate everybody a
little bit. I do kind of like Adam though, Adams
his name Adam is that the gay guy with the
with the hair Zach. Yeah. I do kind of like.
Speaker 2: Zach Zach with the lego hair.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with the lego hair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the deal with that lego hair.
Speaker 3: Jamy thought it was fake the whole first season. She's like,
there's no way that hair is real. I'm like, I
think it is.
Speaker 2: And then Janet was was spreading the rumor that his
hair yeah, and then and the last episode she's like,
by the way, I'm sorry when we weren't good. I
told everyone your hair was a wig.
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Are you watching anything else?
Speaker 1: I am getting well? I got cut up on the
valley and I got, oh, have you watched Love Hotel?
Speaker 2: I haven't watched it. Should I watch it? Be honest?
I mean.
Speaker 1: The thing that about these dating shows like The Bachelor
and stuff like that, I don't like the date part
when they go on these dates. I kind of fast
forward them a little bit. Me too, you know, I
like more of the drama and stuff. So a lot
of the Love Hotel is them on their two on
one dates. One on one date, but they they move
pretty quick though. They don't stick for too long. They
go from Lulan back to Shannon back to the other
two girls. I don't remember their names because I never
watched their Potomac whatever. But nah, it's okay, it's not
I checked it out. I don't think you need to watch.
Speaker 2: I'm just like super into documentaries me too. I watched Oh,
oh my god, did you watch? This might be of
interest to you guys. I've been watching this untold stories.
It's like sports documentaries on Netflix. On Netflix, and I
watched this one called Shooting Guards. Have you guys seen it?
Oh my god, Kaylin, I would think you would love
this one too.
Speaker 3: So I just can't get into documentaries. What yeah, very
very few I'll watch. I think the last one I
watched was about like the Kobe Bryant Olympics team those
years ago.
Speaker 2: Well, this was about this is about these two basketball players.
One of them did play for the Lakers. I don't
I can't tell you both of their names. You could
look it up. But basically, did you ever hear about
this story where these two guys ended up getting suspended
from like fifty games because they both brought a gun
into the locker room. No, nothing happened, nobody got shot,
but they both brought guns in, and then you and
then what it's what happens with both of these guys.
It's a little bit about their upbringings and how they
got to where they were, and then the aftermath of
what happens to each.
Speaker 1: Of them after.
Speaker 2: Getting suspended from the games. One of them kind of
loses his career and goes down sort of a dark path,
and the other one doesn't. And it's very interesting, really
called shooting guards.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 2: So then I went down a little rabbit hole of
like those and I watch some more of those untold
documentaries and one of them was about Steve McNair, the
football player. Yeah, Titans. Yeah, oh, oh my.
Speaker 1: God, I started that one. You finished it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really good. So I'm watching the documentary and
there's a guy who like is kind of cute, he's
wearing he's one of the talking heads, and I'm trying
to figure out who he is because they don't they're
not kay running his name, and I'm also like on
my phone a little bit. So then I missed it
the first time. Then I was like, am I really
going to rewind all the way back to figure out
this guy's name? But I'm like, he's kind of sexy.
It's like a little bit older. Yeah, he's cute, even
though he has a mustache. But anyway, and I'm like,
who is this guy? So then I google Steve McNair documentary.
Who's in it? Right? And then I have to I
look up. I have to go from person to person
and I'm like, oh, I think this guy could be
the guy. Well, he's the ex coach of the Titans,
which is the team that Steve McNair played on. And
then also he was the head coach of the Rams.
So I google him. His name's Jeff Fisher and I
look and it says that he graduated Taft High School,
which was Elvie's school.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: So I was like, it's almost.
Speaker 1: Like he's from the valley.
Speaker 2: He's like an algorithm. Yeah. I was like, he and
I could have met, right.
Speaker 1: What he was the head coach of the Rams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he was the head coach. I know
he was the head coach of the Titans for sure. Yeah,
he's all over this documentary.
Speaker 1: Did you watch the Johnny Manzial one. That's when that
one's really good?
Speaker 2: That's really good. But I watched that one a long
time ago, and literally John was like, remember when we
watched the Manzell one? And I was like, kind of,
but you know, I'm sort of old and forget stuff.
So that's one of those ones that I was like,
let's watch it again, and he goes, we didn't watch
it that long ago, and I was like, listen, it's
gonna be brand new to me. Yeah, right right, brand
spanking new. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like, I just I don't like these
shows any the reality stuff anymore.
Speaker 2: What well, oh the oh you mean but you like documentary?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I love documentary, especially when you have all these trials
going on right now, you know, Like I watched. I
watch like long crime, I think, is what it is
at night before I fall asleep, or I watch uh
court TV just giving the recap of whatever happened that
day and trial and stuff like that, and uh or
I'll watch like two ay. Yeah, so I'm like just
kind of watching these trials and stuff. But I haven't
watched a good documentary until this marriage one. I haven't
seen a good documentary in a long time. Yeah, because
like the datelines and stuff have all been repeats.
Speaker 2: I no, I swear to god, they play the shit
out of these date lines. I always get excited if
I see a new forty eight hours dateline or twenty twenty,
and then I go look at the description. I'm like, yeah,
I heard this one a one hundred times right, it's
like a whatever whatever whatever husband. And then right away
I'm like, yeah, my story has been done to death.
Speaker 1: Yeah I know. And then we have the the Brian
Kolberger trial coming up soon, right, the Idaho murders, which
they just did a twenty twenty I think on recently.
Speaker 2: I listened to that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh ah, just the pictures. I know you
listen to it, but you see the pictures that he
posted of himself. It just creepy. Like the night of
the murder, there's a picture of him giving like a
thumbs up with like the shower behind him and there's
no shower curtain behind him. And then just like he
was like research Ted Bundy murders and there's a picture
of Ted Bunny with a black hoodie and then he
took pictures of himself selfie's with a black hoodie on.
And just he's a fucking creepy guy. He's a scary
creepy He's like a real life Boogeyman. Just the fact
that he was, like, you know, surveilling the house before
the murders, going there a lot. It was just just
I mean, I don't know. That trial is going to
be crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just keep in mind that that guy will
have a defense attorney, yeah, who will make you question
and will be like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's gonna be for the fact that held out
DNA is on the right on the knife sheet.
Speaker 2: But they're coming up with crazy excuses for that, Yeah,
they are.
Speaker 1: They're already saying like there's DNA at the house, so
he other unidentified male DNA at the house that it
could have he could have had somebody with him him
when he was doing it.
Speaker 2: He didn't have anybody, he didn't know.
Speaker 1: But they're already trying that that guy works alone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which always though brings me you know where I'm
going with this right to our thing that has made
us laugh even though it's not funny for years, which
was when two people get together, like the the San
Francisco Stranglers. Huh right, yeah, you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like how did they get another person on board
with them? Do you conversation strangler brothers or cousins?
Speaker 2: Right? He because are you just at the family reunion
and you're just like, God, I could just kill I
could just kill somebody right now. And then the other person's.
Speaker 1: Like me too, same, where do you want to go?
Speaker 2: That seems like such a dark secret that you wouldn't
even tell your psychiatry, right, like having these fantasies about
murdering you know, somebody. Yeah, And the other person's like, Okay,
this is crazy. I don't know if it's the algorithm
or like my phone's listening to me, but like same, right, yeah,
I've been getting ads on my phone about like are
you interested? In killing. How does that? How do you
get together and then you actually go out and do it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like like when you think somebody would have gone,
like one of the two would have been like, dude,
I thought you're joking, Like, wait, you got rope at
home depot and duct tape? All right, I'm in If
you already got it's Friday night, I don't have to
work tomorrow.
Speaker 2: What are we gonna waste it? You got all the
supplies already?
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's try it.
Speaker 2: I mean I got to drink first, obviously. Yeah, all right,
I'm drunk. Let's go, nobody, Where do we start? Where
do we start? You didn't get out there ahead of me?
Did you didn't already start casing neighborhoods? Did you? Why
didn't you tell me I wanted to go? Why do
you get to make all the decisions?
Speaker 1: I want to drive next time?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's horrible, but it genuinely Do you figure
that out? I know?
Speaker 1: I know. Then there's Gearaghos has been saying this in
the news a lot, talking about the Menendez brothers and
his thing, and he just said it the other day
that his old friend Adam would say if Natalia went
into Sunny's room and said, I'm thinking about killing mom
and blown away mom and dad with a shotgun. And
Sonny said, you know this Sunday or next Sunday, that
shows that's like, you know something's wrong in that household.
But yeah, like it like, just how do you get
somebody on the same page with you to commit a murder?
Speaker 2: Right right? Well, especially like it's one thing to get
your brother to help kill your parents. Who are you know,
weeping one of you? It's another thing to go like,
let's just go murder some innocent women just because throw
them on the side of the Both we both have
this weird quirk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's run in the family.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Hey, we have a couple more shouts
to get to get to. But once again, Adam Lerner,
he just texted me. He's like, where the hell's Lynette?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, car, Adams got a car dot com. He's he's
working on my next car. He's just helped my friends
get a car. He helped Robin get a car. It's
like he yeah, I gotta tack him. Yeah, I swear
by him. And you can just talk, like I said,
you can just reach out and say like, hey, I
have some questions. Yeah, I'm going He's not going to
be like sign on the dotted line. He's going to
be like, let me see if I can let me
here's some options. Does any of this sound good?
Speaker 3: Right?
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Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, this week I have on my friend Matthew Hahn,
who I think I was telling you about last week,
who did a bunch of time in jail for in prison.
He's really really cool guy and he's going to tell
the whole story of why he went to prison. Wow,
and it's a crazy story. I can't wait. Yeah, all right,
thanks Caitlin.
Speaker 1: Thanks everybody, your parents know, don't f it up.
Speaker 2: It's going let a go.