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Speaker 1: Made a Desan john a face sunny sund on, I had.

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Speaker 2: A vision.

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Speaker 3: Night.

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Speaker 1: So nat Hey, everybuddy, welcome.

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 1: A lot a lot going on, a lot of trials

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and shit in court?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah. I almost want to I almost

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want to bring up the Karen Reid thing, but then

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I feel like everybody's gonna get mad at me. But

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I swear to God, you are all going to come

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around to my way of thinking. I have been in it.

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I'm like following the trial. I'm listening to a podcast

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that that give updates on every single thing about the trial,

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and I am one hundred percent sure that she did

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hit him with her car. Now, I think she's going

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to get it. I think that there was enough police

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investigation problems that is going to leave reasonable doubt. And

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I definitely think she'll get off because the there's not

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a lot of there's a lot of things that the

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prosecution is not going to be able to. There's just

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nothing they can do about it because it's the police

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were stupid, right, But she hit him with her car.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's Do you think it was manslaughter? Do

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you think it was I think she didn't know that

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she killed him. I think she was hammered, hammered, hammered

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out of her mind, which she absolutely was, which literally

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the next day when they tested her, she was like

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three times over the legal limit. I think she barely remembers.

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I think she got really angry at him. I think

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they were fighting. She was super jealous. When they went

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into the neighborhood where this party was, she was told, Oh,

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that's the house where this girl that John had been

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sleeping with but a while ago, like a couple of

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years before. So she even says Karen even says, oh, yeah,

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that was he'd been seeing this woman who lived. Is

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that why she kept calling her him a pervert? Yeah,

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because where did pervert come from?

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Speaker 2: I think she thinks he's a cheater. I think she was.

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I think she is borderline personality, which is something I

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want to discuss on our Patreon this week, a personal

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experience with it. I think she's just borderline personality, which

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puts her in a blind rage over the idea. I

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think she constantly thought he was cheating on her, I mean,

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which has been proven right. She was jealous of everybody.

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She was constantly accusing him of fucking somebody else. And

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I think she lost her mind, was mad at him,

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and then when he wanted was like sick of her shit.

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He probably told her to fuck off. He had a

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drink in his hand. He was drunk too, and got

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out of the car and she was like fuck you

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and backed into him. Knew that she backed into him

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then left him like figured, I think her mind. She

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figured he's fine, like she hit him, but she probably

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didn't hit him that hard, but he she did hurt him,

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and then he fell and hit his head, so she

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knew exactly where he was. When she came back the

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next day, she kept saying to people, I think I

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could have hit him. I think I hit him. Did

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I hit him? My tail light's broken. Then she knew

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exactly where he was and found him immediately. So if

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she saw him go into the house, why explain to

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me why she would have gone back to the scene

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and immediately found him.

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Speaker 1: Well, because they were going back to the scene to

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look for him, but he was over on the side

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of the house, but he was out front on the ground,

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so she look and she also was.

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Speaker 2: Like where is he? Could he have been hit by

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a snowplow? Could he have been like? Yeah, why would

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she think that, Why would you think, guys, I think.

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Speaker 1: She was also like that type of chick that drives

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me nuts. Or she's like yelling their names Jen Jen

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like he's dad. Like she's just like one of those

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right crazy.

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Speaker 2: But why would she think that if he was drunk

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and went into the house to go to a party

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with his friends, Why wouldn't you assume that he just slept,

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that he just like fell asleep. Why would you assume.

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Speaker 1: Because they said, because they said to her, he never

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came inside the house. They told her that, so you know,

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I understood. I I don't think it's this huge cover

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up where fifteen people are saying the same thing. I

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don't know what some I think that it could have

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been a couple guys inside the house. Something happened. The

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thing is is what I don't get is I don't

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that kind of what it's made, that tail light, what

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it's made out of, shattering into those many pieces getting

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hit by a car. Even the medical examiner was like, uh,

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she I think she didn't call it that it was hit,

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that he was hit by a car. It was I

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think she didn't come to a conclusion of how he died.

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see that many pieces of tail light shattering like that

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and that kind of injury on his arm. That's the thing.

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just killing him like or getting into his arms. That

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that's the crazy thing.

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Speaker 2: He died of a head injury.

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Speaker 1: He died of ahead of it. But but I don't

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see that tail light like breaking into so many pieces

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after getting hit by a car.

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Speaker 2: Well, the car that made is that the car did that,

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she did hit, she did back up at like twenty

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five miles per hour and and and did hit and

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did hit something that at that time. I mean, that

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is what the evidence shows. Well, what did the defense's car?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: The defense is just trying. The defense is saying, okay,

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but he somebody beat him up in the house. But

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why and why are all these people covering up?

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's all these twenties. I don't think

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there's a bunch of people. I think that I think

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that it could have been a couple of shady cops

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and they took care of it. What if he dies

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unexpectedly inside their home. What are they gonna do with

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the body, so they have to cover they have to

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figure something out if it happened inside the home. I

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just the butt dialing stuff and why.

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Speaker 2: Why something?

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Speaker 1: But why, like why sell that house that's been in

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that and for generations? Why sell the home? Why why

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rehome the dog where nobody knows where the dog is anymore?

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Why get rid of your cell phone? Destroy your cell phone?

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to something that happened, Why do you have lawyers? Why

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do they all lawyer up? It just seems really shady

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and it casts reasonable doubt for sure.

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Speaker 2: Definitely cast reasonable doubt. Yeah, but I one hundred percent

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think that Opkham's razor. The most obvious answer is what happened?

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get to the bottom of it.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's ever.

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Speaker 2: I'm making a lot of enemies from our audience members

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who think that I'm the crazy one. But I found

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this podcast that agrees with me, and of course everybody

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went and review bombed that podcast and they're like, you

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don't you're wrong, Like it was a cover up, and

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so now the podcast has like one point something stars

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because of you know, I just think that the free

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care and read people are well, those people pray, but

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there's apparently there are way fewer of them. But listen, everybody,

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it's like a worse Shark test, like everybody sees things

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the way they see it. Yeah, there's definitely some shady stuff.

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I'm not denying that. I just think that she hit

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him with her car, whether that is what killed him,

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purposely did get mad and back into him. It was

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like fuck you. And I do not think she saw

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him go into the house. I think that's an absolute lie.

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minutes and waited for him and was like only got

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mad that he didn't call her and say, hey, it's

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a fun party. That did not happen.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna leave him, like back into him with

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your car and you'd think he's gonna be okay, why

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do it at a house with a bunch of cops,

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you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I don't think she was thinking about that. I think

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she was really mad. She went into blind rages and

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she was so drunk. I think she was just like

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fuck you, and then backed up and hit him and

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then was like, oh shit, did I hit him? And

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then later goes to back to his house and then

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is like, she's still mad at him. You know, why

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didn't he come home? Why is he just out partying,

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probably fucking some girl, which is what she thought, like

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happy as a clam. And I'm here worried about him.

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and then I think it occurred to her. The other thing.

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Speaker 1: The last thing too, is the cop that lived at

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the house is a season detective and at five six

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o'clock in the morning, there's all this freaking commotion outside

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and you don't get up to go see what's going

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on outside, Like and why didn't somebody want run into

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the house, Like why didn't they run into the house

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to see if anybody else is dead inside the house?

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I just I don't know. Just it's really it's really weird.

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Shady cops man, Boston cops, yea from Boston, go fuck yourself?

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Speaker 2: Okay. More importantly, I watched this documentary and then I

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already watched it. It's called American Marriage. Hold on, I

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gotta yeah, it had a called Deadly American Marriage. Yes, okay,

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but I set the stage for people. This is a

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Netflix documentary and it is about this guy Irish. He's

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Speaker 3: Huh.

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Speaker 2: He his wife dies of an asthma attack. Okay, he

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hires He's got these two very young kids, so he

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hires an O pair and the O pair is this

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cute young blonde woman from America. Yeah, so she goes,

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she goes out to Ireland and she's his nanny. Next thing,

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Speaker 1: They get married.

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they seem in love, Like good for him, right. The

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family of the girl is like, yeah, all right, I

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guess I guess he seems she's happy, you know. So

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they get married. She's very overly interested in the kids,

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like she becomes their stepmother immediately. She's immediately trying to

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file paperwork to adopt the kids, right, and he's like,

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not so fast, because could she have kids? No?

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Speaker 2: Right, So anyway, long story short, the crime is that

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and you find this out right away, okay, so it's

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basically what the story is about it because it kind

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of opens this way that the dad and the woman.

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point like why is the dad even there?

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Speaker 1: Now? I think that they lived like maybe an hour

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supposed to be going to do something else. The mother

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and the father of the of the girl who's married

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to the guy, the irishman, they're staying with them, And

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that comes up later because apparently they were supposed to

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other wing and they bailed. Okay, so they they're they're claiming.

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her and was abusive, and the dad because the.

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in the middle of the night, and he like he

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got mad at her and then was taking she says,

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Speaker 2: So he starts choking her. Then she's screaming. Then the dad,

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the father wakes up, comes running says, oh, I heard

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my daughter screaming. There's so many weird India. This is

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like as bad as Karen Reid, because he like, hold

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hold on a minute. Yeah. So the dad claims that

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he heard his daughter screaming for help. So he goes

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and he doesn't know what's going on. But meanwhile the

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mother who's in bed with the dad, is like, yeah,

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I woke up too, because and but he said he

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was gonna go check it out, grabs a baseball bout.

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know nothing because I slept through it. Yeah, okay, your husband,

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you're somebody's screaming in the house. You're her husband, who's

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sleeping next to you, grabs a baseball bat and you're like,

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he's got it right. No, no, no, she's lying, she's lying. Yeah,

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But so the dad goes up, get off, my daughter

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beats him with a baseball bat. Then then she picks

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Speaker 2: A big, huge brick on her night side table.

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And and decides and then uses that.

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Speaker 2: And dashes his head in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And there's proof from blood from the blood shatter that

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he was being hit while he was still down, while

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he was down.

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Speaker 2: On the ground, and there's blood in several rooms. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So like he was like they chased.

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Speaker 2: Him from room to room and like beat him to death. Yeah. Okay,

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So you see this, the woman, the girl that the

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wife of the irishman is seems so like something's up,

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something seems so up with her. Right when she was younger,

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she was like a pathological liar. She told all these

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even as an adult, she was a liar. And she

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told people current day that those were her kids, that

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she was their biological mother. Right, she made up a life.

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So there's a lot weird about that. So you go

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through the documentary and you're like, well, this is she's crazy,

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and they but why is the dad lying?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: But then you're like, but she's claiming, claiming, claiming, no,

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he was abusive. I just hadn't told anybody. So then

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you're like, okay, so did she get her dad so

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entrenched in her story about being abused that he was like,

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I'll do anything to protect my daughter. Now I'm going

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to lie about it, right, okay. But then later in

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the documentary and this this is a little bit of

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a spoiler, so just close your ears or skip forward

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like in a minute. But then she apparently put a

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recording device in the rooms, and you do hear this

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guy being abusive, like being like a gaslighter. He's kind

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of yelling at her. He seems really jealous, and he's like,

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why aren't basically kind of why aren't you a better wife?

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Why are you? And you really do hear her going

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like I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Okay, yeah, I'll do better,

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like and you're like, hold up, what the fuck? Like

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he's not this great guy that they're making him out

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to be he was kind of an asshole. So now

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I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Right, So then you're like, well, wait a second. There

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was also something else.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I know what you're gonna say. Yeah, there was

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the fact that it had gotten so bad that the

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grandmother created like a safe word for the kids. Is

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that what you were going to say? No?

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Speaker 1: I forgot about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. They had a code word so that if the

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kids were scared of their dad, they could call their

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grandparents and give them the code word.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 2: That.

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Speaker 1: The other thing was when the kids were being interviewed

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right after the killing happened, they seemed really rehearsed.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they were like, yes, it's for my father. My

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mother was being physically and verbally abused.

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Speaker 1: Yes, physically and verbally, yeah, abuse it. And this kid

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was like seven, he was talking. What a studious kid,

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by the way, because he just he just repeated what

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somebody told him that the.

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Speaker 2: Son was so cute, wasn't he cute? Oh my god,

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he was so cute. Both the kids were absolutely adorable.

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Speaker 1: I know, they were really cute kids. And yeah, so

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then they get sent to go live with his family,

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who don't seem don't think of him as an abusive

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guy and then come to find out spoil alert but

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that oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: They're like, absolutely, he didn't do anything to them. They

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were coached, right, And then the kids years later are like,

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you know what, we were coached. Our mother told us

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to lie. And then they recant.

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Speaker 1: Their what they said that morning.

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Speaker 2: But they said that morning and they're like, no, we

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were told to say that by our mother, and we

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never Our father was a great guy and he never

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did anything. But like, I don't know what to believe.

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Speaker 1: I know, I don't I think it's a combination of both.

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I think he was an asshole, but I think that

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she might have had like enough of him, and then

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he might have came after her, and then she went

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after him tenfold. And then the dad jumped in, and

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then the dad who was also an FBI interrogator, like

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that's what he did for a living, I know. And

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now he's getting in tard right, which is he's.

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Speaker 2: Being very weird, very FBI like, yeah, he knows exactly

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what to say and what not to say.

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Speaker 1: I know, I don't know what. I think it's a

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combination of both.

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Speaker 2: All these fuckers are up to something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think I.

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Terms and conditions apply seaside for details. Yes, yeah, So

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what do I think happened? I'm unclear. I think that

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the guy probably was an asshole, like you said, and

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I think something happened and they both had enough of it.

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But then I think the dad, I think she killed

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him and the dad cover and the dad wanted to

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take the fall.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I could see that. Yeah, I mean it. It's

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another case where nobody's ever gonna know what really happened.

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But but then so the other stuff I've been watching,

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I've been watching a lot of p Diddy stuff. I

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highly have recommend the Two Angry Men podcast with Harvey

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Levin and Mark Garragos. It's really good and hysterical because

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they just they get along, They have great chemistry. They

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go over all these court cases. Big win for the

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Menendez brothers last week.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what's the scoop?

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Speaker 1: So now they're being re sentenced, But basically it's going

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in front of a parole board in June, and Geragos

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is very pretty confident that he's gonna be able to

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that they're gonna get out because now it's just up

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to the parole board. And then I think it has

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to go in front of Newsome, which Newson was going

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to have them out anyway. So it looks like in

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June they'll probably be getting out.

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Speaker 2: And that's one that I can get behind.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and they had to get out twenty

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four family members that are all wanting him out, including

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their sisters of the mother.

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Speaker 2: So you know Dad, that dad, come on, he was

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a monster, yes, yeah, and he raped him in noodo right, yes,

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like you know, there were insinuating circumstances. Now where those

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guys are the Menanda's brothers also assholes who like probably

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were very excited about getting that money.

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Speaker 1: They were excited about getting her money. Yes, yeah, for

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sure there.

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Speaker 2: Were young rich kids who hated their dad understandably but

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also shot the mom in cold blood. Listen. But all

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that being said, yes, they did a lot of time.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so, and they've rehabilitated themselves and also like

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done started programs in jail. There's a guy that was out,

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he was at court last week that talked about how

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they were like his mentors and they got him on

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the straight and narrow. So when he got out he

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became an advocate for them that they've changed his life.

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So yeah, that was a big win. And then the

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other thing, I was, Oh, the Blake Lively thing. She's

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just a piece of work. But apparently you know, I'm

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sure you've heard about it that she tried to tell

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asked Taylor Swift to uh, just to make a statement

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to stand by her as a friend, and Taylor Swift

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was like, absolutely not and then then threatened her with

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like I'm gonna release it's like ten years of friendship

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of our text messages if you don't delete your text message.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently within that was gonna be stuff that Taylor

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said about Travis Kelsey. Who knows what that is, but

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maybe from the beginning of the relationship, right, Yeah, there's

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all kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 3: And threatening Taylor Swift is a bold move. Yeah, why

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would you even go? Why would you do that?

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, that's your losses. She needs to

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cut her losses over everything at this point, try and settle.

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Where is this going to go? I don't think it's

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going to go to trial, But are really really gonna

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let Taylor Swift get up there and be deposed? You know?

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I mean they're gonna have to go through her friendship

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and to ask her about text messages and are you

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really her dragon and all the shit, and yeah, according

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to TMZ, she doesn't want anything to do with it.

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Speaker 2: I feel like, if you're Blake and you get this

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00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,880
far into it, aren't you kind of worried that now

474
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,759
you've dragged your husband into it, You've dragged Taylor Switch, Like,

475
00:27:06,279 --> 00:27:09,400
aren't you Like what's Ryan Reynolds thinking at this point?

476
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,079
Speaker 1: Well, I think he's the brains behind a lot of it,

477
00:27:12,279 --> 00:27:16,599
you do, Oh yeah, I think Ryan Reynolds is an asshole,

478
00:27:16,759 --> 00:27:23,200
narcissistic control freak. I think that, you know, he's not.

479
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,640
He wants the public to think he's just this fun,

480
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,839
self deprecating dude. And I either think he was jealous

481
00:27:31,079 --> 00:27:35,839
of Baldoni or or just wanting to control everything. I

482
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,079
don't know, but I think he had a lot to

483
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,920
do with it, you know, sending him text messages about

484
00:27:42,839 --> 00:27:47,039
you know, I would get your picture tattooed on my

485
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:52,519
tinked if you would move the start date of the

486
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,960
of the filming to so I can be there around

487
00:27:56,319 --> 00:27:59,839
the set and not be away doing Marvel stuff. And

488
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,079
the fact that he did nice Pool and making fun

489
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:09,039
of him, like and they're subpoening. They are Baldoni's people

490
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:12,240
are sent a subpoena to get all of this stuff

491
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,640
from Marvel about how did how did nice Pool come about?

492
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,079
Let's hear about whose idea was it to do nice Pool?

493
00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:23,799
What kind of storyboard did you guys do? And because

494
00:28:23,799 --> 00:28:27,680
it's obviously done, you know, added an expense to Baldoni,

495
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,079
you know, And I think, yeah, I think ty, I

496
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,279
think Ryan Reynolds as a I think he's a piece

497
00:28:34,279 --> 00:28:39,160
of shit after all this, I think he's a bully interesting. Yeah,

498
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,480
and I wanted to like him. I used to like him,

499
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,799
but now it's like and then he's like doing like podcast,

500
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:51,240
Like he was on Conan's podcast and he was talking

501
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,799
about how he doesn't punch down, and like that's you know,

502
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,960
he did once and he learned his lesson, and he

503
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,559
brought up some story from twenty years ago, and it's like,

504
00:28:59,599 --> 00:29:02,839
there's a now eant in the room. You absolutely punched down.

505
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,839
You were punching down at Baldoni. You You're not going

506
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,799
to do this to the simple favorite director who's an

507
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,279
established director. You're going to do it to the you

508
00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:17,559
know man bun, you know, women loving peace whatever, you know,

509
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:24,079
kumbacha tea drinking dude, you know, right, And and that's

510
00:29:24,119 --> 00:29:26,759
the guy you're gonna steamroll. And that's what they did.

511
00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:27,799
They tried to steamroll.

512
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,839
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also Blake's whole thing was that she likes

513
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,240
to like sign on to agree to just be an

514
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,359
actress and then but I like to get in there

515
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,240
and like really be the director and and take control.

516
00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:45,559
She said, she that's her. That's her m O. Right, yeah,

517
00:29:45,799 --> 00:29:48,640
and that's what she did here, right, And then she

518
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,799
tried to take the movie away from him. She did

519
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,759
full rewrites.

520
00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:54,799
Speaker 1: And he never saw the final cut.

521
00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: No, because she kicked him off of it.

522
00:29:57,519 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: And then she's saying like I wanted I like she's

523
00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:04,880
saying in text messages that she wanted to recut the

524
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,119
movie and everything. And then fast forward to her on

525
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,640
the red carpet and she's going, my husband, the iconic

526
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,240
rooftop scene was all done. That's all my husband. I

527
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,799
probably shouldn't be saying that, but that was all my husband.

528
00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:21,799
It's like, okay, that there, you know, there's if I

529
00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:25,519
was Baldoni's lawyers'll be like, okay, exhibit A. You know,

530
00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:30,880
I just close closed. But I just think that they

531
00:30:31,079 --> 00:30:34,920
they got a little too ahead of themselves and they're bullies,

532
00:30:35,119 --> 00:30:36,880
and I just I hate that.

533
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. And then she tried to get Colleen

534
00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:43,240
Hoover totally on her side, right, and then the two

535
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:45,480
of them were being like mean girls about it, right,

536
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,880
and all she wanted to do is member sell her

537
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,440
jeans like she's not a serious person. No, these are

538
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:52,319
not serious people.

539
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,079
Speaker 1: No, no, no, she doesn't she can't read the room.

540
00:30:56,119 --> 00:30:57,920
When she was promoting the movie.

541
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: And when they were talking about how you know in

542
00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:05,359
that scene that they showed the uncut version of the dance,

543
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:07,759
the scene where they're dancing, where she claims she felt

544
00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:10,160
so uncomfortable and she had to keep saying like, don't

545
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,240
I don't think we should kiss. But if you watch

546
00:31:13,319 --> 00:31:16,799
the whole thing, he's not doing anything that bad. He's

547
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,079
not like he's totally listening to her, but he has

548
00:31:20,119 --> 00:31:23,720
his own vision. He wants it to be sexy, like listen,

549
00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:26,519
people play more explicit sex scenes than that.

550
00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:27,319
Speaker 1: Oh.

551
00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: And every time she's like, I don't think we should kiss.

552
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,039
I don't think we should kiss in this scene, what

553
00:31:31,119 --> 00:31:33,079
does he do. He doesn't go, well, let's try it

554
00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:35,519
with making out. No, He's like, oh his sister her.

555
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,960
Yeah yeah. He's like okay, totally, but like we'll just

556
00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:41,119
kind of get close to it, but we won't. And

557
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,480
she's like, okay, great, yeah let's not kiss and he's

558
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,839
like okay, yeah, we won't. And then when they cut,

559
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,160
when they yell cut, he literally goes like he walks

560
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,079
the hell away from her. He's not like being inappropriate

561
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,640
or still touching her. When they say cut. As soon

562
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,519
as they say cut, he's like, yeah, I think we

563
00:31:57,599 --> 00:32:01,039
got it right, right. Yeah. She's like he was making

564
00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:04,079
me so uncomfortable. He was trying to like be it

565
00:32:04,119 --> 00:32:06,359
wasn't written into the script, telling.

566
00:32:06,119 --> 00:32:09,119
Speaker 1: Me I smell so good when you listen to it.

567
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,559
I mean she's like, oh, you probably smell my spray

568
00:32:11,599 --> 00:32:14,839
tan and he was like smells good or whatever, which

569
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,400
anybody would say.

570
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: What did she want him to say? Like, yeah, you

571
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,400
smell gross, but I'll get through it right, right.

572
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: And then she's making fun of his nose and shit,

573
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,480
like telling him to get a nose job, just take

574
00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:29,119
some time off and get that thing taken care of,

575
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,279
like she's insulting it. The whole thing is just crazy.

576
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,599
They're they're just like, but this whole thing with Taylor

577
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,039
Swift and the text messages, ma, and you got a

578
00:32:40,119 --> 00:32:43,920
lot of nerve ye asking Taylor Swift to like put

579
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,119
out a tech put out a statement or and delete

580
00:32:47,119 --> 00:32:52,759
your text messages or look out, and she Taylor's be.

581
00:32:52,759 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 3: Like illegal for her to delete her text message. I mean,

582
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,000
if they're going through this core process and I need

583
00:32:57,039 --> 00:32:59,200
her text me be like hey you need then wouldn't

584
00:32:59,319 --> 00:33:01,519
that be like a liability or illegal.

585
00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: Or something or not supposed to do that.

586
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,559
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, it's really weird. And Taylor Swift has

587
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:13,759
definitely not been seen with Blake Lively No anytime recently. No, yeah,

588
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,359
how'd you like to be the ex friend of Taylor Swift?

589
00:33:17,559 --> 00:33:20,200
Your ass is gonna get a song written about you? Oh?

590
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,759
Hell yeah, short order.

591
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,319
Speaker 1: Oh, there's gonna be some Easter eggs in the next album,

592
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,119
that's for sure.

593
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,839
Speaker 2: That's for sure. Oh my god, hilarious. Okay, wait, what

594
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,799
else have you watched? Have you been watching Four Seasons? No,

595
00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:37,119
like Tina Fay Show.

596
00:33:38,079 --> 00:33:39,359
Speaker 1: Is that a Tina Fay Show?

597
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,599
Speaker 2: Tina Fey, it's the Four Seasons. It's a remake of

598
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:48,000
the movie The Four Seasons, So it's it's a Tina

599
00:33:48,039 --> 00:33:52,200
Fey It's like about these three couples that get together

600
00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:55,119
every season. You haven't seen any episodes?

601
00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:58,359
Speaker 1: No, I haven't seen. I've seen, you know, promos and stuff.

602
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,000
I've seen it. I haven't watched it.

603
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: I'm dying to know what you think about that, your

604
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,799
friends and neighbors. Have you been watching that? It's gotten

605
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,079
so bad, it's like seriously unwatchable.

606
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: No, I wanted to get caught up on the studio.

607
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:13,639
So I watched that.

608
00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 3: I like how you just keep bashing your friends and

609
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,840
neighbors like every week, and how it's getting worse and

610
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,519
worse and worse, and every week you come in you

611
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:22,239
look at me, you go, have you started watching your

612
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:22,840
friends and neighbors?

613
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,599
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, no, because we're not sound at

614
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:26,519
all horrible. It is.

615
00:34:26,559 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 3: Why would I start watching it?

616
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 2: Because it's so it's just so wrong that the first

617
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,960
couple episodes were so good Yeah that I was like, Wow,

618
00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:37,360
this is like the best show I've seen in so long.

619
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,079
The writing is like so crisp but so fresh and

620
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,199
interesting and like gripping. And then it was like, wait,

621
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:45,920
what happened?

622
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: They blow their lot on the first two episodes.

623
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,639
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I swear to god I was.

624
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,559
John and I were kept looking at each other and

625
00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:57,360
I said, this is it's this is like AI just

626
00:34:57,519 --> 00:34:59,559
like took over, like they're like okay, just right the

627
00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:02,000
rest of the episodes, and then John went and found

628
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,880
on Reddit where somebody goes this. This last episode felt

629
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,159
like chat GPT wrote it, and I was so excited

630
00:35:09,159 --> 00:35:14,679
that somebody felt the same as I did. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

631
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:19,079
so that sucked. I just started watching so much TV

632
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:21,960
over the last couple of days. I don't know why.

633
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:26,639
I think it's because my other podcast Rose Pricks. Normally,

634
00:35:26,679 --> 00:35:29,519
I'm watching so many things because I have to, and

635
00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:31,639
then I get burnt out on watching TV because I'm

636
00:35:31,679 --> 00:35:34,360
like watching The Bachelor, and I'm watching The Valley, and

637
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,679
I was watching like Mormon Housewives and like all these shows.

638
00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:40,880
But now I'm only watching The Valley once a week.

639
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm caught up on it.

640
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, The Valley is. It's pretty good, but it's yeah,

641
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:48,960
there's I don't like it.

642
00:35:50,119 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: Like anybody on The Valley. Yeah, it's cooked, and there's

643
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,400
nobody I really am rooting for.

644
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 2: No same.

645
00:35:56,639 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: I don't like anybody.

646
00:35:58,800 --> 00:35:59,159
Speaker 2: I didn't.

647
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: I hate what's his face? Jack's He's a nightmare.

648
00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

649
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,119
Speaker 1: Briandy seems kind of annoying. I because I.

650
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: Never watched She's really annoying. I never watched.

651
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: Vanderbult, but yeah, I'm just like, eh, but I am.

652
00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:18,400
I watched it. I just don't have anybody I like.

653
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of a good thing.

654
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 3: I mean I watched The Valley too.

655
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: Oh you do, Yeah, I do? Are the are the boys.

656
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,679
Uh are Patrick and Dylan covering it?

657
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,119
Speaker 3: They are? Yeah, I know that because Amy listens to

658
00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:34,559
their pod. Amy loves their podcast and their recaps. And god,

659
00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:37,400
who's who's the guy who's like the voiceover actor?

660
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,679
Speaker 1: That's what dannatt.

661
00:36:40,519 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 3: He just calls him an alcoholic.

662
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: I don't like Danny either, He's it's so bad sometimes

663
00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:50,920
when I watch these shows too, like as a recovering alcoholic.

664
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,039
By the way, I don't know if you know. I

665
00:36:53,079 --> 00:36:56,119
have a podcast called Drunkish where where I talk about sobriety,

666
00:36:57,039 --> 00:37:00,159
have it with a guest and super honest and really fun.

667
00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:04,000
But it's an interesting perspective when you watch a lot

668
00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:07,760
of these shows feature people that clearly have drinking problems,

669
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,199
like Housewives, this the Valley, it's so hard to not

670
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,440
it's and it's not a matter of judging. It's just

671
00:37:16,519 --> 00:37:22,360
that living in a world where I know a lot

672
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,920
of people and know what their bottom was and know

673
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:27,800
how you know what I mean, I know how drinking

674
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,119
problems play out. It's hard to watch it when you're like,

675
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,920
it's all these people denying, like no, no, no, I'm fine,

676
00:37:36,119 --> 00:37:37,960
And then when you watch it you're like, Okay, so

677
00:37:38,599 --> 00:37:44,079
Danny gets drunk and his behavior totally changes, and he yells,

678
00:37:44,519 --> 00:37:47,599
get Daddy a drink to the black woman on the

679
00:37:47,679 --> 00:37:50,519
cast and then pinches that woman's.

680
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, which he did profusely apologize for. It's like, okay, fine,

681
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,679
and then they go for a weekend in Santa Barbara

682
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,159
and he's like, I gotta go back into town and

683
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:00,039
do some voiceover work, so I'm gonna be good. And

684
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:01,679
he's good, and he does that, and as soon as

685
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,000
he gets back, he drinks so hard and he passes

686
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,039
out like way before anybody else, and then causes a

687
00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:11,000
huge fight between everybody just just for being drunk and

688
00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:13,480
passing out. Yeah, they're falls for starting that fight, but

689
00:38:13,639 --> 00:38:15,159
it's funny. It's like, as soon as he gets back

690
00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:17,480
to Santa Barbara, he's passed that with him like five.

691
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's got to catch up, right.

692
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 2: But yet the other guys have a conversation about him

693
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,440
and his drinking and they're like, yeah, ever since he

694
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,719
had that horrible thing happened at Halloween, he's been real good.

695
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,320
Like he just has like a few drinks, like, and

696
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,920
then cut to him in a pantry drinking tequila after

697
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,039
a wine tasting it's like and then go, so he's

698
00:38:41,079 --> 00:38:45,239
not okay you guys, but yeah, compared to Jack's who's

699
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,360
bipolar and a coke addict. Yeah, of course Danny looks harmless,

700
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,119
like what he's just drinking some alcohol.

701
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

702
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, people are.

703
00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 3: Adults, That's what he was saying. It's kind of good

704
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,400
that you don't like anybody because there's only like one

705
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:03,360
guy out of the bunch that's like Janet's husband, and

706
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he's boring, is felt like noble, Like Zach, he's boring

707
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as fuck, and it's like, you know, you don't want Yeah,

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you kind of want to kind of hate everybody a

709
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little bit. I do kind of like Adam though, Adams

710
00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:17,039
his name Adam is that the gay guy with the

711
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:18,760
with the hair Zach. Yeah. I do kind of like.

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Speaker 2: Zach Zach with the lego hair.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, with the lego hair.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the deal with that lego hair.

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Speaker 3: Jamy thought it was fake the whole first season. She's like,

716
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there's no way that hair is real. I'm like, I

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think it is.

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Speaker 2: And then Janet was was spreading the rumor that his

719
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hair yeah, and then and the last episode she's like,

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by the way, I'm sorry when we weren't good. I

721
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:41,960
told everyone your hair was a wig.

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Speaker 1: That's funny.

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Speaker 2: His hair is real. Speaking of real, right, you know what?

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Are you watching anything else?

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Speaker 1: I am getting well? I got cut up on the

781
00:43:27,559 --> 00:43:32,039
valley and I got, oh, have you watched Love Hotel?

782
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 2: I haven't watched it. Should I watch it? Be honest?

783
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:40,480
I mean.

784
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,119
Speaker 1: The thing that about these dating shows like The Bachelor

785
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:46,960
and stuff like that, I don't like the date part

786
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:49,239
when they go on these dates. I kind of fast

787
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,679
forward them a little bit. Me too, you know, I

788
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,360
like more of the drama and stuff. So a lot

789
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,199
of the Love Hotel is them on their two on

790
00:43:58,199 --> 00:44:00,400
one dates. One on one date, but they they move

791
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,440
pretty quick though. They don't stick for too long. They

792
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,480
go from Lulan back to Shannon back to the other

793
00:44:08,119 --> 00:44:10,280
two girls. I don't remember their names because I never

794
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:16,400
watched their Potomac whatever. But nah, it's okay, it's not

795
00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:19,320
I checked it out. I don't think you need to watch.

796
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 2: I'm just like super into documentaries me too. I watched Oh,

797
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,639
oh my god, did you watch? This might be of

798
00:44:28,679 --> 00:44:32,000
interest to you guys. I've been watching this untold stories.

799
00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:36,400
It's like sports documentaries on Netflix. On Netflix, and I

800
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,960
watched this one called Shooting Guards. Have you guys seen it?

801
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,119
Oh my god, Kaylin, I would think you would love

802
00:44:43,159 --> 00:44:43,679
this one too.

803
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Speaker 3: So I just can't get into documentaries. What yeah, very

804
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,719
very few I'll watch. I think the last one I

805
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:55,480
watched was about like the Kobe Bryant Olympics team those

806
00:44:55,599 --> 00:44:56,039
years ago.

807
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: Well, this was about this is about these two basketball players.

808
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,960
One of them did play for the Lakers. I don't

809
00:45:03,159 --> 00:45:06,760
I can't tell you both of their names. You could

810
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,800
look it up. But basically, did you ever hear about

811
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:15,119
this story where these two guys ended up getting suspended

812
00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:17,800
from like fifty games because they both brought a gun

813
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:24,079
into the locker room. No, nothing happened, nobody got shot,

814
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,679
but they both brought guns in, and then you and

815
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,599
then what it's what happens with both of these guys.

816
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It's a little bit about their upbringings and how they

817
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,880
got to where they were, and then the aftermath of

818
00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:40,760
what happens to each.

819
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Speaker 1: Of them after.

820
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Speaker 2: Getting suspended from the games. One of them kind of

821
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,840
loses his career and goes down sort of a dark path,

822
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,000
and the other one doesn't. And it's very interesting, really

823
00:45:55,039 --> 00:45:56,039
called shooting guards.

824
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Speaker 1: Interesting.

825
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Speaker 2: So then I went down a little rabbit hole of

826
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,119
like those and I watch some more of those untold

827
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documentaries and one of them was about Steve McNair, the

828
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football player. Yeah, Titans. Yeah, oh, oh my.

829
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Speaker 1: God, I started that one. You finished it?

830
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really good. So I'm watching the documentary and

831
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:24,199
there's a guy who like is kind of cute, he's

832
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,599
wearing he's one of the talking heads, and I'm trying

833
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:29,440
to figure out who he is because they don't they're

834
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,639
not kay running his name, and I'm also like on

835
00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:33,800
my phone a little bit. So then I missed it

836
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,800
the first time. Then I was like, am I really

837
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,079
going to rewind all the way back to figure out

838
00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:40,480
this guy's name? But I'm like, he's kind of sexy.

839
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,840
It's like a little bit older. Yeah, he's cute, even

840
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,519
though he has a mustache. But anyway, and I'm like,

841
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:51,719
who is this guy? So then I google Steve McNair documentary.

842
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,840
Who's in it? Right? And then I have to I

843
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,719
look up. I have to go from person to person

844
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,360
and I'm like, oh, I think this guy could be

845
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,039
the guy. Well, he's the ex coach of the Titans,

846
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,159
which is the team that Steve McNair played on. And

847
00:47:06,199 --> 00:47:08,360
then also he was the head coach of the Rams.

848
00:47:08,639 --> 00:47:11,880
So I google him. His name's Jeff Fisher and I

849
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,400
look and it says that he graduated Taft High School,

850
00:47:16,119 --> 00:47:17,239
which was Elvie's school.

851
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:18,199
Speaker 3: Wow.

852
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,199
Speaker 2: So I was like, it's almost.

853
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: Like he's from the valley.

854
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 2: He's like an algorithm. Yeah. I was like, he and

855
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,360
I could have met, right.

856
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: What he was the head coach of the Rams.

857
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he was the head coach. I know

858
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,000
he was the head coach of the Titans for sure. Yeah,

859
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:39,239
he's all over this documentary.

860
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: Did you watch the Johnny Manzial one. That's when that

861
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:45,559
one's really good?

862
00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 2: That's really good. But I watched that one a long

863
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,679
time ago, and literally John was like, remember when we

864
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,719
watched the Manzell one? And I was like, kind of,

865
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,639
but you know, I'm sort of old and forget stuff.

866
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So that's one of those ones that I was like,

867
00:47:59,199 --> 00:48:01,000
let's watch it again, and he goes, we didn't watch

868
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,039
it that long ago, and I was like, listen, it's

869
00:48:03,079 --> 00:48:06,239
gonna be brand new to me. Yeah, right right, brand

870
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,320
spanking new. Yeah.

871
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like, I just I don't like these

872
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,800
shows any the reality stuff anymore.

873
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 2: What well, oh the oh you mean but you like documentary?

874
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 3: No?

875
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Speaker 1: I love documentary, especially when you have all these trials

876
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,280
going on right now, you know, Like I watched. I

877
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,079
watch like long crime, I think, is what it is

878
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,719
at night before I fall asleep, or I watch uh

879
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:38,079
court TV just giving the recap of whatever happened that

880
00:48:38,199 --> 00:48:42,440
day and trial and stuff like that, and uh or

881
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,760
I'll watch like two ay. Yeah, so I'm like just

882
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,400
kind of watching these trials and stuff. But I haven't

883
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,800
watched a good documentary until this marriage one. I haven't

884
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,079
seen a good documentary in a long time. Yeah, because

885
00:48:56,119 --> 00:48:59,000
like the datelines and stuff have all been repeats.

886
00:48:59,639 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 2: I no, I swear to god, they play the shit

887
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,800
out of these date lines. I always get excited if

888
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,719
I see a new forty eight hours dateline or twenty twenty,

889
00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:11,599
and then I go look at the description. I'm like, yeah,

890
00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:14,280
I heard this one a one hundred times right, it's

891
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:19,960
like a whatever whatever whatever husband. And then right away

892
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,400
I'm like, yeah, my story has been done to death.

893
00:49:22,599 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah I know. And then we have the the Brian

894
00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:32,039
Kolberger trial coming up soon, right, the Idaho murders, which

895
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,559
they just did a twenty twenty I think on recently.

896
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 2: I listened to that one.

897
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh ah, just the pictures. I know you

898
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,039
listen to it, but you see the pictures that he

899
00:49:44,199 --> 00:49:49,599
posted of himself. It just creepy. Like the night of

900
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,639
the murder, there's a picture of him giving like a

901
00:49:51,679 --> 00:49:54,800
thumbs up with like the shower behind him and there's

902
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,840
no shower curtain behind him. And then just like he

903
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,679
was like research Ted Bundy murders and there's a picture

904
00:50:02,679 --> 00:50:04,920
of Ted Bunny with a black hoodie and then he

905
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,159
took pictures of himself selfie's with a black hoodie on.

906
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,239
And just he's a fucking creepy guy. He's a scary

907
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:18,280
creepy He's like a real life Boogeyman. Just the fact

908
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:22,159
that he was, like, you know, surveilling the house before

909
00:50:22,199 --> 00:50:25,800
the murders, going there a lot. It was just just

910
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,000
I mean, I don't know. That trial is going to

911
00:50:29,079 --> 00:50:29,960
be crazy.

912
00:50:30,159 --> 00:50:32,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just keep in mind that that guy will

913
00:50:32,519 --> 00:50:36,639
have a defense attorney, yeah, who will make you question

914
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,400
and will be like, I don't know.

915
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's gonna be for the fact that held out

916
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,639
DNA is on the right on the knife sheet.

917
00:50:44,679 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 2: But they're coming up with crazy excuses for that, Yeah,

918
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:47,719
they are.

919
00:50:48,039 --> 00:50:52,639
Speaker 1: They're already saying like there's DNA at the house, so

920
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:57,960
he other unidentified male DNA at the house that it

921
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,519
could have he could have had somebody with him him

922
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:01,639
when he was doing it.

923
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: He didn't have anybody, he didn't know.

924
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: But they're already trying that that guy works alone.

925
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, which always though brings me you know where I'm

926
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:15,199
going with this right to our thing that has made

927
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,280
us laugh even though it's not funny for years, which

928
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:22,800
was when two people get together, like the the San

929
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:27,880
Francisco Stranglers. Huh right, yeah, you know what I'm talking about?

930
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like how did they get another person on board

931
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:36,880
with them? Do you conversation strangler brothers or cousins?

932
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 2: Right? He because are you just at the family reunion

933
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,159
and you're just like, God, I could just kill I

934
00:51:43,199 --> 00:51:46,039
could just kill somebody right now. And then the other person's.

935
00:51:45,639 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: Like me too, same, where do you want to go?

936
00:51:51,159 --> 00:51:54,119
Speaker 2: That seems like such a dark secret that you wouldn't

937
00:51:54,159 --> 00:51:57,599
even tell your psychiatry, right, like having these fantasies about

938
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,840
murdering you know, somebody. Yeah, And the other person's like, Okay,

939
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,239
this is crazy. I don't know if it's the algorithm

940
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,079
or like my phone's listening to me, but like same, right, yeah,

941
00:52:08,199 --> 00:52:10,480
I've been getting ads on my phone about like are

942
00:52:10,519 --> 00:52:13,760
you interested? In killing. How does that? How do you

943
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,159
get together and then you actually go out and do it?

944
00:52:16,679 --> 00:52:19,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like like when you think somebody would have gone,

945
00:52:19,119 --> 00:52:21,400
like one of the two would have been like, dude,

946
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,960
I thought you're joking, Like, wait, you got rope at

947
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:29,360
home depot and duct tape? All right, I'm in If

948
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,320
you already got it's Friday night, I don't have to

949
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:33,079
work tomorrow.

950
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: What are we gonna waste it? You got all the

951
00:52:35,039 --> 00:52:35,960
supplies already?

952
00:52:36,039 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's try it.

953
00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 2: I mean I got to drink first, obviously. Yeah, all right,

954
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:45,679
I'm drunk. Let's go, nobody, Where do we start? Where

955
00:52:45,679 --> 00:52:48,679
do we start? You didn't get out there ahead of me?

956
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,679
Did you didn't already start casing neighborhoods? Did you? Why

957
00:52:51,679 --> 00:52:56,639
didn't you tell me I wanted to go? Why do

958
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,119
you get to make all the decisions?

959
00:52:58,679 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: I want to drive next time?

960
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it's horrible, but it genuinely Do you figure

961
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:06,679
that out? I know?

962
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: I know. Then there's Gearaghos has been saying this in

963
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,920
the news a lot, talking about the Menendez brothers and

964
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,480
his thing, and he just said it the other day

965
00:53:18,039 --> 00:53:21,519
that his old friend Adam would say if Natalia went

966
00:53:21,519 --> 00:53:24,599
into Sunny's room and said, I'm thinking about killing mom

967
00:53:24,639 --> 00:53:27,199
and blown away mom and dad with a shotgun. And

968
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:32,440
Sonny said, you know this Sunday or next Sunday, that

969
00:53:32,599 --> 00:53:36,880
shows that's like, you know something's wrong in that household.

970
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,679
But yeah, like it like, just how do you get

971
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,320
somebody on the same page with you to commit a murder?

972
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:48,159
Speaker 2: Right right? Well, especially like it's one thing to get

973
00:53:48,199 --> 00:53:51,320
your brother to help kill your parents. Who are you know,

974
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,679
weeping one of you? It's another thing to go like,

975
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,199
let's just go murder some innocent women just because throw

976
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,119
them on the side of the Both we both have

977
00:54:00,159 --> 00:54:01,159
this weird quirk.

978
00:54:01,679 --> 00:54:03,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's run in the family.

979
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Hey, we have a couple more shouts

980
00:54:09,079 --> 00:54:12,039
to get to get to. But once again, Adam Lerner,

981
00:54:12,119 --> 00:54:14,360
he just texted me. He's like, where the hell's Lynette?

982
00:54:15,039 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got it.

983
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, car, Adams got a car dot com. He's he's

984
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,119
working on my next car. He's just helped my friends

985
00:54:24,119 --> 00:54:26,079
get a car. He helped Robin get a car. It's

986
00:54:26,119 --> 00:54:29,039
like he yeah, I gotta tack him. Yeah, I swear

987
00:54:29,079 --> 00:54:31,440
by him. And you can just talk, like I said,

988
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,559
you can just reach out and say like, hey, I

989
00:54:33,559 --> 00:54:35,519
have some questions. Yeah, I'm going He's not going to

990
00:54:35,559 --> 00:54:37,360
be like sign on the dotted line. He's going to

991
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:38,840
be like, let me see if I can let me

992
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,519
here's some options. Does any of this sound good?

993
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 3: Right?

994
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,039
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995
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996
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,000
which lasts a lot longer. It's better for the environment.

997
00:54:54,039 --> 00:54:59,239
They smell delightful. Ferncandle dot com or also on Instagram

998
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,679
at fern Handle. The Get Up Show is a podcast

999
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,800
for kids, gets you from snooze to shoes. So they

1000
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,679
do stuff like yoga, and there's music and there's jokes.

1001
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,639
It's so cute for kids. Get them their first babies.

1002
00:55:13,679 --> 00:55:21,559
First podcast, The Get Up Show podcast. Also, that's it. Okay,

1003
00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:24,480
he did everything last week? All right? So also make

1004
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,199
sure you listen to Drunkish it's my other podcast. I

1005
00:55:28,199 --> 00:55:31,280
would so appreciate if you guys would listen to the

1006
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download all the episodes and give me a review and subscribe.

1007
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Speaker 1: Nice.

1008
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, this week I have on my friend Matthew Hahn,

1009
00:55:40,559 --> 00:55:43,119
who I think I was telling you about last week,

1010
00:55:43,519 --> 00:55:46,920
who did a bunch of time in jail for in prison.

1011
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,360
He's really really cool guy and he's going to tell

1012
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,840
the whole story of why he went to prison. Wow,

1013
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:57,440
and it's a crazy story. I can't wait. Yeah, all right,

1014
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:58,519
thanks Caitlin.

1015
00:55:58,639 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: Thanks everybody, your parents know, don't f it up.

1016
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 2: It's going let a go.

