WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.520 --> 00:00:05.440 How's uh oh, have you been noticing how like our 2 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:08.919 government would fall apart if anybody wanted the role of 3 00:00:08.960 --> 00:00:10.599 prime minister but nobody does. 4 00:00:11.839 --> 00:00:12.119 Have you? 5 00:00:12.199 --> 00:00:13.960 Are you aware of what's going on over here? I 6 00:00:13.960 --> 00:00:14.759 guess that's a question. 7 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:23.839 I mean I saw like Keith getting he was like 8 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:26.719 trying to call I guess it was called a session 9 00:00:26.719 --> 00:00:30.079 of Parliament together or something like that, and like like 10 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:32.799 he got booed and like people yet like, yeah, it 11 00:00:32.920 --> 00:00:37.000 seems like he's the most cucked man in the world. 12 00:00:37.479 --> 00:00:37.799 It is. 13 00:00:38.320 --> 00:00:41.119 No one else wants the chair right now. 14 00:00:41.159 --> 00:00:44.399 That's basically it. Yeah, so like what happened because we 15 00:00:44.479 --> 00:00:47.119 talked about it before, you know, there was the guy 16 00:00:47.159 --> 00:00:50.359 Peter Mandelsson, who was one of Jeffrey Eveseen's close personal 17 00:00:50.399 --> 00:00:56.920 friends that kir Starmer appointed to the ambassadorship of America anyway, 18 00:00:57.359 --> 00:00:59.159 so you know, and then that was a bad idea 19 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:00.880 in and of itself. We can all agree on that. 20 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:05.480 We can all agree on that. But then also like 21 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:11.400 then everyone suddenly noticed that he was like good friends 22 00:01:11.439 --> 00:01:15.519 with Jeffrey Epstein, Like when the Trump administration did that, 23 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:19.519 like latest Epstein league, everybody knew already every leftist in 24 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:23.920 the UK had this picture of Peter Mendelssohn belt shopping 25 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:27.799 with Jeffrey Epstein like saved on their phone. Okay, so 26 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:33.159 we all knew anyway, but then suddenly everybody noticed. And 27 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:38.120 then anyway, it's like come out more recently that when 28 00:01:38.480 --> 00:01:43.000 he was put into the position, he failed his like 29 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:50.439 security clearance check. But they were like, but you know 30 00:01:50.480 --> 00:01:53.359 he was put forward anyway, Cures Starmer's line about this, 31 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:56.359 and he said this in Parliament, which is the big deal, 32 00:01:56.959 --> 00:02:03.120 is that he hadn't known that Peter Mendelssohn had failed 33 00:02:03.959 --> 00:02:07.959 his security clearance and his line last week was that 34 00:02:08.039 --> 00:02:10.800 he learned about it on Tuesday. But the thing about it, it 35 00:02:10.840 --> 00:02:13.520 was that story had actually broken already in September, and 36 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:15.560 it's just kind of like no one had like pointed out. 37 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:18.199 And also it doesn't make any fucking sense, right, So anyway, 38 00:02:18.240 --> 00:02:22.520 he fires the head of like a long standing civil 39 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:25.400 servant who was like the head of the Office of 40 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:28.479 Florid Affairs because he's like, you should have told me. 41 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:31.800 I didn't know this. And the guy then got called 42 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:36.439 before like to testify about this and was like, well, 43 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:41.560 here's the thing. They announced that he was the new 44 00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:45.960 US ambassador and then had him start working immediately before 45 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:50.960 any of the checks got done anyway, so he was 46 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:53.159 already working. He was already like had all the documents 47 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:57.719 in front of him. And then basically they were like told, Okay, 48 00:02:57.759 --> 00:02:59.800 well that's the guy, and they were like, uh, seems 49 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:01.319 like he failing the things. And they were like, well, 50 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:03.120 there's nothing we can do about it because they already 51 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:07.039 announced it, and like by behind the scenes, like Starmar's 52 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:10.400 right hand man Morgan McSweeney, who was already forced to 53 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:13.319 resign over this, had apparently told him to just get 54 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:17.719 it fucking done unquote. And it's like the whole thing, 55 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:20.280 it's like super super obvious because it's just like a 56 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:25.439 quid pro quote because basically Mendelssohn and Morgan McSweeney had 57 00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:30.080 run this whole like really in depth operation called Labor 58 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:34.360 together while Jeremy Corbyn was the leader of the Labor Party, 59 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:37.120 where they were like essentially sabotaging the Labor Party from within, 60 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:39.560 and that was the whole where the whole anti Semitism 61 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:42.919 thing came from. So because Mandelssohn ran all of that 62 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:45.919 and it worked, basically, his payoff was you get to 63 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:50.479 be the US ambassador, right, And anyway, it's very very 64 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:54.000 funny because now Kerre Starmer's like, like, what's an appointment? 65 00:03:55.680 --> 00:03:59.039 I've never met that, but I don't know anything that 66 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:02.479 ever happened, And it's like everyone is like a dog, 67 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:07.360 like this is literally unbelievable, and like apparently he was 68 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:10.680 in a parliament yesterday and he was like, I know 69 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:15.080 it beggars belief, but I simply didn't know, and everyone 70 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:18.240 started like laughing at him because it's like, bro, it's 71 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:22.639 literally unbelievable, like you're just lying. But the thing is, 72 00:04:22.680 --> 00:04:26.959 nobody else wants the job, like especially because we're about 73 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:31.879 to have like an election on the ninth where we're 74 00:04:31.879 --> 00:04:35.319 gonna we elect our counselors, so like our our local people, 75 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:38.639 and like Labor is gonna get absolutely fucking destroyed in 76 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:42.439 the pulse. They're gonna get like decimated, they're gonna be gone, 77 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:45.680 and so basically nobody else wants to take the fall 78 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:50.240 before that happens. So he's just like hanging around like 79 00:04:50.319 --> 00:04:55.079 a ghost. But also like the Labor Party is just 80 00:04:55.120 --> 00:04:59.560 like completely toast because like they've just destroyed it. So yeah, 81 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:01.839 it's it's interesting over here, but I'm not getting a 82 00:05:01.839 --> 00:05:04.439 lot of work done. Like I basically got nothing done 83 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:09.040 yesterday because I was just like enjoying schadenfreude. 84 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:16.480 Who you know, so who, like, who else in the 85 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:19.600 labor party is there to take this? Are they are? 86 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:19.759 They? 87 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:22.000 Are they finally gonna They're just gonna put David Lammy 88 00:05:22.079 --> 00:05:22.759 in there or something? 89 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:25.079 Well, okay, so no, because like David Lammy is totally 90 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:29.879 tainted by this as well, I thought. And so interestingly, 91 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:32.600 like before all of this, they had been sort of 92 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:37.360 setting up this one like odious little Mark west streeting 93 00:05:37.399 --> 00:05:40.120 for the job, and he is like a genuine piece 94 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:44.360 of shit like transfo but he was super good friends 95 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:48.920 with Peter Mandelsson too, so like he can't come in 96 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:56.279 because he's like Mandelsson's guy. Could be at Billiband, could 97 00:05:56.360 --> 00:06:00.399 be like on the news yesterday, like there's a there 98 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:02.240 was a good kind of clip circulating where he was 99 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:04.480 like on the news and someone was like yeah, dude, 100 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:07.199 But like the trouble is everybody knew Peter Mandelson was 101 00:06:07.199 --> 00:06:09.720 a piece of shit, and like you watch him being 102 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:13.399 like yeah, yeah, like and then he was sort of 103 00:06:13.480 --> 00:06:14.959 like it was just like no, it's a fair point, 104 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:16.639 Like at a point tell you just like let him be, 105 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:18.560 like watch him be, like I'm not gonna do this anymore, 106 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:19.879 Like I'm just not going to toe the line. 107 00:06:20.439 --> 00:06:27.279 So could be him would have been the Mayor of Manchester, 108 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:33.040 Andy Burnham, but Cure Starber blocked him from running for. 109 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:38.720 MP so that he wouldn't be able to challenge because 110 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:44.839 like that's how much everybody hates Cure Starber. So like, yeah, 111 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:48.000 like the whole thing, it's it's just like an incredible 112 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:52.160 it's just very funny because like all of the Centrists 113 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:55.040 when these guys got in, were like finally the grown 114 00:06:55.120 --> 00:06:57.519 ups are back in charge, and it's like yeah, by 115 00:06:57.560 --> 00:06:59.959 that you mean it's just like the same like odious 116 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:06.480 group of pricks that you know, Like it's it's just 117 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:10.319 really incredible stuff. What can I say, the worst to 118 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:15.319 ever do it. He's genuinely the most disliked prime minister 119 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:20.560 since anybody started like counting records. I'm talking less popular 120 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:25.399 than Margaret Thatcher m because at least, like Margaret Thatcher 121 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:26.639 did stuff for rich people. 122 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:35.480 Like did I read correctly that they're banning the sale 123 00:07:35.480 --> 00:07:40.519 of cigarettes to anyone born after like a week ago? 124 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:44.120 Yeah, like two thousand and eight, yeah, which is like, 125 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:48.000 how is that's not lee, Like you can't just you 126 00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:51.480 can't just do that. Like so if you're like born 127 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:54.079 in two thousand and eight, you can have cigarettes, but 128 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:56.240 if you're born in two thousand and nine you can't. 129 00:07:57.639 --> 00:08:03.879 Boo, Yeah, what what is that suppose? 130 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:09.759 I don't And also it's like bra vapes are available, 131 00:08:10.279 --> 00:08:12.879 like it's just like it's just nanny state stuff. That's 132 00:08:12.920 --> 00:08:16.319 the only thing they're interested in doing, right, Like it's. 133 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:24.000 But I just don't, like, cannot comprehend that just seems 134 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:29.879 like something engineered to piss people off and not like 135 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:36.519 I don't know what possible upside, Like I can't imagine 136 00:08:36.519 --> 00:08:38.799 there were people who were like I wasn't going to vote, 137 00:08:38.799 --> 00:08:41.279 but now that they've put those young whippers staff, like 138 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:43.399 all those old people are going to vote. Any I 139 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:48.559 just don't understand what the like hmmm hmm man. 140 00:08:49.120 --> 00:08:52.120 Yeah, it's uh, I don't really understand who it's for. 141 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:57.679 Like literally nobody was asking for this, right, so it's 142 00:08:57.720 --> 00:09:00.159 just like the entire thing is just like the like 143 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:02.519 I mean, and and that's what we're offered, right like 144 00:09:02.559 --> 00:09:05.840 in lieu of any form of like governing, you know, 145 00:09:06.039 --> 00:09:09.120 like no good things can happen, right, it's just like 146 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:15.399 only stasis, and so it's pretty funny. It's a pretty good, 147 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:18.399 pretty good time to be alive over here. What can 148 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:20.639 I say? We're doing great. 149 00:09:21.559 --> 00:09:25.919 You know, I uh, I'm having fun at least, that's. 150 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:29.240 Yeah, you know, I think that's important. 151 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:30.960 You know, I don't. 152 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:38.360 Man, it's difficult to say, my friend, it's difficult to say. Like, 153 00:09:38.440 --> 00:09:41.440 I mean, the one thing that I am really enjoying 154 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:44.639 is like the tears of my enemies, you know, like 155 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:45.879 I want revenge. 156 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:48.639 So yeah, well good. 157 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:49.440 For me, you know. 158 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:53.759 Yeah, yeah, revenge is is what you need to get by. 159 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:57.399 You gotta you gotta you gotta see you gotta see 160 00:09:57.440 --> 00:10:00.000 them suffer to some degree. Uh. 161 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:05.000 Absolutely, absolutely, So yeah, yeah that's great. 162 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:10.120 Well, I mean we're just uh whatever, We're just heading 163 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:10.960 towards the abyss. 164 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:11.360 Uh. 165 00:10:12.360 --> 00:10:15.960 Trump will either go too far and do something that 166 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:19.799 gets around round to like really retaliate and and destroy 167 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:26.559 uh you know, the uh the Pedro dollar, or he'll 168 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:28.559 back down and try to like make him ends of 169 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:32.159 the run, and Israel will just release like some of 170 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:34.840 whatever they have on him, just like they have on 171 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:41.039 so many people. And yeah, and then you know, then 172 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:46.320 we'll get to do that. So like I mean, I 173 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:52.440 don't know, We're all just like we're all just continually 174 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:55.840 waiting on the edge, just like the precipice of the 175 00:10:55.919 --> 00:10:58.639 end of the world and the end of everything we 176 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:05.120 got going on, and mm hmm, I mean and it like, 177 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:07.799 I mean, it just depends like what happens first is like, 178 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:11.840 you know, does does the Iran situation like really like 179 00:11:12.159 --> 00:11:16.320 just flare up to such a degree that that the 180 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:20.320 economy gets destroyed? Does the AI bubble crash does like 181 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:27.440 some video of Trump doing something horrifying beyond measure like 182 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:32.679 come out, like what what is the what? What is 183 00:11:32.720 --> 00:11:34.759 the thing that pushes us over the edge, Because I 184 00:11:34.799 --> 00:11:36.679 mean like there's like a million of them and they 185 00:11:36.679 --> 00:11:39.879 could do it, and like you know, right now the 186 00:11:40.039 --> 00:11:43.679 US is you know, you got spinning plates and we're 187 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:49.240 like stepping over banana peels and everything, and we got 188 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:53.879 forty spinning plates, you know, like and they're all going 189 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:58.080 and the thing is like when one of them falls, 190 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:02.840 the rest will fall because the state isn't it's it's 191 00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:05.519 not uh, it's been hollowed out and out of the 192 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:07.759 point where like you can't do that. We can't. We 193 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:12.279 we don't have global soft power anymore. We're basically the 194 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:16.360 global hedgemon now because of the entropy of empire, like 195 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:21.639 and China doesn't feel that they're ready to push us 196 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:28.159 over yet. Yeah, so, uh, I don't know. It's it's 197 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:31.039 all incompetence. All the way down over here, Democrats aren't 198 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:35.279 doing anything. It's almost like we need a third party 199 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:36.639 of some kind here. 200 00:12:36.960 --> 00:12:42.080 Uh well, listen, look it happened here like unfortunately for us, 201 00:12:42.120 --> 00:12:45.720 like our white our right wing got even crazier. 202 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:49.519 I don't think that's a I don't think I think 203 00:12:49.519 --> 00:12:50.639 that's an inevitability. 204 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:54.480 Like I just think it's uh, but yeah, I think 205 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:57.080 that kind of comes with the territory. But you know, 206 00:12:57.360 --> 00:12:59.440 like green parties are doing good over here, we're doing 207 00:12:59.480 --> 00:13:00.120 really well. 208 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:00.919 Yep. 209 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:05.240 I'm sorry to see what we do in the midterms. 210 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:07.440 But yeah, like at this point in time, we're we're 211 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:10.679 basically just taking over all that. But and it's a 212 00:13:10.679 --> 00:13:14.000 genuine leftist alternative and it's it's really exciting, you know. 213 00:13:14.120 --> 00:13:19.360 So that's cool. Yeah, like it can happen, it's but 214 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:21.720 there has to be like I mean, I guess also 215 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:23.080 it's true that it's like, of course we have the 216 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:26.799 parliamentary system, so it's, uh, it's a little bit different, 217 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:27.279 but you know. 218 00:13:27.919 --> 00:13:30.000 Yeah, well I mean we got you know, we get 219 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:35.960 the majority two party system here. And that doesn't mean 220 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:38.279 that third parties never happen. It just means that it 221 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:42.159 takes a little bit longer and things have to progress 222 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:48.440 to a point to to to to to create the 223 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:51.039 conditions for those things to happen. And I mean that 224 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:55.639 is I think, I think that's what you get with 225 00:13:57.840 --> 00:14:00.879 like with with this if you who are fed up 226 00:14:00.919 --> 00:14:04.840 and they don't have anywhere else to go right now, 227 00:14:04.960 --> 00:14:09.559 and I mean I would guess it probably happens in 228 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:13.480 twenty twenty eight or early twenty twenty nine after like 229 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:19.919 a dim whoever it is, wins the election and they 230 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:24.360 come in and nothing changes at all. I mean even 231 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:27.840 if they even the most good hearted them, they're not 232 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:29.799 going to have the votes to change things the way 233 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:34.159 that they needed to that they need to be and 234 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:36.240 they'd have to fight their own party and everything, and 235 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:37.879 I mean it's just going to tear them apart, just 236 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:41.039 like Dems are going to fall apart or Republicans are 237 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:45.840 going to fall apart. Whenever Trump dies, you know or 238 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:50.039 what I don't know, whatever happens first anyway, Yeah, let's 239 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:51.120 let's talk abou. 240 00:14:51.200 --> 00:14:54.200 Just some questions. Yeah, let's do it. It'd be good. 241 00:14:54.799 --> 00:15:31.279 Yeah, let's do that. All right. Hello, and welcome back 242 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:35.559 to We're Not So Different podcast about how we're all 243 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:39.200 staring into the abyss. This is staring back and we're 244 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:43.519 laughing and the abyss is laughing and we're all having 245 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:49.519 a good time. Hello. Today, folks, we are going to 246 00:15:49.639 --> 00:15:57.480 do some more mail more, more, more, more. 247 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:56.519 Et cetera. 248 00:15:56.879 --> 00:16:02.759 Yeah, we all remember that one gift. Y'all remember that movie, folks. 249 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:06.240 As promised, we're back with another mailbag episode for April. 250 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:08.440 As we said last time, we will be starting a 251 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:12.240 short series on pre modern Iran next episode. But for now, 252 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:15.440 it's a male time. 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You can get access to all seven 263 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:04.680 episodes for just fifteen dollars. So yeah, that is cool. Yeah, anyway, 264 00:17:05.200 --> 00:17:07.119 here we go. So first one we got is from 265 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:10.880 dog God who says, regarding rushes as a floor covering, 266 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:14.200 are they always woven into mats or is it something 267 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:17.920 more of a hamster cage style situation. 268 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:21.319 Okay, so this is a great question and the answer 269 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:26.240 is sometimes it is like like a fancy people. Okay, 270 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:28.640 like fancy people are doing the woven thing, but if 271 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:33.720 you're a peasant, do do you like have time for 272 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:37.759 weaving rushes less? So right, so they might like hamster 273 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:39.680 cage it and basically after like a day or two 274 00:17:39.720 --> 00:17:43.759 of trotting it down, it's fine, and they change them 275 00:17:43.799 --> 00:17:46.759 super regularly. So it's like, really, if you were gonna 276 00:17:46.759 --> 00:17:51.720 sit there and like redo the rushes like completely woven 277 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:56.720 every time, it's too much. So you're fancy people, they've 278 00:17:56.759 --> 00:18:01.279 got woven once your regular ass peasants a little more, 279 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:03.440 little more, hamster cage a little more. 280 00:18:04.599 --> 00:18:10.039 Yeah, and uh, rushes are what are Russias exactly? Like 281 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:12.279 it's like a It's like they're. 282 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:16.119 Like like I kind of oftentimes a plant that lives 283 00:18:16.119 --> 00:18:18.960 in quite boggy conditions. So they have these like big 284 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:23.039 long spear shaped leaves. That's right, And that's and that's 285 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:26.279 essentially what you're doing. They smell nice, you know. It 286 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:28.920 means that you're not like damaging the floor under it. 287 00:18:28.960 --> 00:18:31.720 You know, a lot of people have a compacted earth floors, 288 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:35.240 so you just you don't necessarily want to be like 289 00:18:35.319 --> 00:18:38.839 on the dirt all the time. Yeah, so it just 290 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:39.559 gives you a little bit. 291 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:42.960 It gives you. It gives you something like yeah, you 292 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:44.880 know and uh you know when you've got to pee 293 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:47.759 in the corner like a dog. No, I'm just kidding, Yeah, 294 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:53.400 that's right. Yeah, right, yeah, there you go. Uh And 295 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:56.640 now I'm just thinking about like keeping a house clean 296 00:18:56.720 --> 00:19:01.319 when you live on dirt floors, and well that's I mean, 297 00:19:01.319 --> 00:19:03.200 that's what the Russians are for, right, No, I know, 298 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:05.799 I know, but like I'm just like like the whole 299 00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:07.759 I'm just like compounding it, like oh it feels so 300 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:10.279 gritty under my feet. Oh god, I hate that all 301 00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:11.079 your feet would. 302 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:15.880 Like ah anyway. 303 00:19:13.799 --> 00:19:19.200 Yeah, yeah, I wasn't built for those times. Uh, I 304 00:19:19.240 --> 00:19:21.279 did not. I do not have the medieval dog in me. 305 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:28.440 Dog God. Yeah, thank you for the question. Next we 306 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:30.839 got one from A J. A me and oh so 307 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:36.039 many players of Crusader think kings have an unhealthy question 308 00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:39.880 mark exclamation point interest in incestuous relationships, at least within 309 00:19:39.960 --> 00:19:42.079 the confines of the game. Well, that's a very good 310 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:43.759 qualifier there at the. 311 00:19:43.759 --> 00:19:46.119 End, you know. Yeah, well done you. 312 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:52.920 Yeah, so my question, uh so, my question is how 313 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:56.400 common was this in the Middle Ages with the nobility 314 00:19:56.480 --> 00:19:59.359 and normal folks. Was there different views within different strata 315 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:02.720 of society. Have people learned from royals of classical age 316 00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:04.319 that this was not a good thing for your kids 317 00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:07.759 given a generation to if nothing else? How bad of 318 00:20:07.799 --> 00:20:09.559 a sin did the Church find incest to be? 319 00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:13.079 Well, you know, it's enough of a sin that like 320 00:20:13.359 --> 00:20:18.599 you can annul marriages for consequinity, right, so that that's 321 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:21.920 something to keep in mind. But also, like I mean it, 322 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:25.799 certainly they don't think that you should like marry your 323 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:29.920 brothers and sisters and things like that. And indeed, actually 324 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:32.599 one of the things when the church starts getting more 325 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:36.039 involved in marriage, there's a real pushback to it on 326 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:40.640 the behalf of the nobility, because the nobility don't want 327 00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:43.079 their children to make their own decisions about who can 328 00:20:43.119 --> 00:20:48.000 get married. Yeah, and the church is really big on no, No, 329 00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:54.400 you need to be able to marry who you want to. 330 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:57.799 Is very clear about the like, yeah, say what you 331 00:20:57.839 --> 00:21:01.920 will about the Bible, but it's very clear having sex 332 00:21:01.960 --> 00:21:08.200 with your immediate relatives bad. Forcing people into marriage also bad. 333 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:17.039 Yeah, exactly, So, like they very much don't want families 334 00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:19.839 making these ideas. And also they're a big part of 335 00:21:19.920 --> 00:21:25.920 who is like pushing to say no consanguinity like no, 336 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:28.839 like to stop marrying your cousin's dude, Like it's it's 337 00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:33.720 not a good idea. Now, people do know that you 338 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:44.640 are essentially you are tempting fate if you, if you like, 339 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:49.400 get too married in inter family, right, Like they are 340 00:21:49.400 --> 00:21:53.200 aware of that they do attempt to marry someone outside 341 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:57.359 of the family, and indeed, like they are usually using 342 00:21:57.400 --> 00:22:02.000 marriages to try to make more alliances. So like they 343 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:07.400 are probably going to try to, for example, get married 344 00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:09.880 to like someone from a kingdom a little bit farther away, 345 00:22:09.880 --> 00:22:11.799 like you know, people that they know they can make 346 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:15.440 strategic alliances with. So you know, yeah, like you probably 347 00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:19.319 already have the stuff covered from families, so that that 348 00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:21.880 does kind of go away. Now this isn't to say 349 00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:27.200 that incests doesn't happen, but like, so for example, you know, 350 00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:31.920 obviously every single thing I do is about ghosts at 351 00:22:31.920 --> 00:22:35.799 the moment, but like we have particular ghost stories that 352 00:22:35.920 --> 00:22:41.440 crop up where specifically they're like, oh, yeah, this guy 353 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:44.920 who was like shagging his daughter came back. So I 354 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:49.160 got this one out from the Dialogue of Miracles of 355 00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:51.799 these areas of Hesterbach. So he's working kind of in 356 00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:55.759 the twelfth century outside of Cologne. And let me just 357 00:22:55.799 --> 00:22:59.519 read this to you. In the diocese of trevs that 358 00:22:59.720 --> 00:23:02.519 where the former vision occurred as a former gross story. 359 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:05.680 Before this, there was another knight named Henry Nodys like 360 00:23:05.839 --> 00:23:08.279 name him, name him and shame him. Now. He was 361 00:23:08.319 --> 00:23:14.200 deeply mired in wickedness and sin, and regarded rapine, adultery, incest, perjury, 362 00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:17.039 and other such crimes as deeds of virtue. When he 363 00:23:17.119 --> 00:23:19.400 died in the province of Menevelt, he appeared to many 364 00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:22.480 in sheep skin, and kept frequenting the house of his daughter, 365 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:25.839 as he had been wont to do when alive. Whether 366 00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:27.799 admonished by the side of the cross or threatened with 367 00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:30.839 the drawn sword, he would not be driven away. Indeed, 368 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:33.799 his specter was often struck with a sword, but could 369 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:35.960 not be wounded, giving out the kind of sound that 370 00:23:36.039 --> 00:23:39.000 a soft bed makes when it is struck. I really 371 00:23:39.039 --> 00:23:42.839 like that. That's very evocative. His friends consulted John, the 372 00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:45.680 Lord Bishop of trevs and he advised them to pour 373 00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:47.720 water on a nail, which was a relic of the 374 00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:51.599 crucifixion match, and to use it to sprinkle water around 375 00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:53.480 the house and on his daughter, and on the man 376 00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:55.839 himself if he was present. This was done, and he 377 00:23:55.880 --> 00:23:59.319 never appeared again. Although he was legally married, he had 378 00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:02.440 fathered the dog on his maid servant, and rich that 379 00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:04.519 he was, he had to botch the daughter when she 380 00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:07.279 grew up. It is not long since these things happened. 381 00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:12.799 So Jesus, what does this tell us? It tells us 382 00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:15.519 in the first place, that like people may do be 383 00:24:15.720 --> 00:24:20.440 having incest, but that people take a low view of it. Right, 384 00:24:20.480 --> 00:24:23.400 the church is like and you will turn into a 385 00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:25.960 demon after death, and everyone will hate you, right, So 386 00:24:27.319 --> 00:24:30.920 it shows us that it's possible, but certainly frowned upon, 387 00:24:31.359 --> 00:24:33.960 if that makes sense. So yeah, like it's out there, 388 00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:36.720 it's within the things, but I mean, I it's not 389 00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:39.519 really until the early modern period, and like the Habsburgs 390 00:24:39.559 --> 00:24:42.200 are kind of the best to ever do it, right, 391 00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:46.319 like in terms of the inbreeding thing. But yeah, yeah. 392 00:24:45.920 --> 00:24:49.640 Yeah, I mean I think I think it was much 393 00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:52.359 more of an issue within the nobility. 394 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:56.720 I yeah, like an ordinary people, that's not a thing. 395 00:24:56.920 --> 00:25:00.240 They're not gonna unless unless there's something kind of weird 396 00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:04.680 going on, or you were just like incredibly secluded in 397 00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:08.559 a in like a very crazy ass way. 398 00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:13.039 Like look unless you get your head stuck, yes, the 399 00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:17.119 wash house and your step brother walks by, okay, Like. 400 00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:21.559 Yeah, yeah, it's just like I mean, people have known. 401 00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:28.400