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Speaker 1: Word is John Caldera is turning over a new leaf.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead check on that. Hey, John, welcome back
Speaker 1: to the show. Uh, it's always been inside me, don't
Speaker 1: you know?
Speaker 3: I care. I care about your future. I care about
Speaker 3: your kid's future. Dan, I'm doing this for you.
Speaker 1: That's why you're taking my tax money because you care about.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: No no, it's not the tax. Oh good, Oh that's
Speaker 2: what you think. No, oh yeah, I care about your children.
Speaker 4: Hey.
Speaker 3: I want to make sure.
Speaker 2: Your children grow up in a world where they can breathe.
Speaker 1: Hmmm. I always had you pegged as an environmentalist. Exactly
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. So I didn't even know that Nissan made
Speaker 1: a lyef. I'm and I do have to ask this, John,
Speaker 1: what what man would drive a card leaf?
Speaker 3: Is there something?
Speaker 5: Is there?
Speaker 1: Some other big announcement coming here?
Speaker 3: So how to put it?
Speaker 2: When the office found out as one woman in my
Speaker 2: office said, oh you you just don't.
Speaker 3: Want to get laid. And where do you work.
Speaker 2: Independence institute that wonderful Yeah, where you can talk that way.
Speaker 2: Absolutely No, no, not not at iHeart, but where I
Speaker 2: work you can talk that way.
Speaker 3: It's actually tell the story.
Speaker 1: It's a fascinating It's got me wanting to go to
Speaker 1: the car dealer now, you.
Speaker 3: Know it's it's it's ridiculous, all right.
Speaker 2: So the green industrial complex is the most crony form
Speaker 2: of government we've heard about the the military industrial complex.
Speaker 2: You understand how cronyism works, and land deals and all
Speaker 2: the rest. When you think about it, that's nothing compared
Speaker 2: to what is being given to Excel Energy, what's being
Speaker 2: given to car companies, what's being built, what we're all
Speaker 2: paying for in our taxes and in the products we buy.
Speaker 2: Long story short, I added up all the all the
Speaker 2: stuff that the wonderful taxpayers of Colorado are paying for
Speaker 2: me to buy a new car, and I was like,
Speaker 2: oh man, this is this is basically free. So, long
Speaker 2: story short, I decided to give it a test. I
Speaker 2: got a thirty two thousand dollars electric vehicle for fifteen grands.
Speaker 3: All right, So this is this is I and I
Speaker 3: found out there are.
Speaker 2: Other guys who've done better than I have because they
Speaker 2: didn't get this little thing or that little thing on it.
Speaker 2: And if they live in a better zip code that
Speaker 2: doesn't have sales tax as high as mine in Boulder County,
Speaker 2: they I know, I got it for under fourteen grand.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a I only buy. I always buy
Speaker 2: used cars. I think cars are one of the biggest
Speaker 2: wastes of money there are, unless there's some car company
Speaker 2: that would like me to do endorsements, in which case
Speaker 2: I would track that. Yeah, it's just they're they're they
Speaker 2: don't make sense to buy new. So I only buy
Speaker 2: really used old cars, and I drive them until they drop.
Speaker 3: And the reason is because I know what women like.
Speaker 3: And there's nothing.
Speaker 2: Sexier, you know than a than a guy driving a
Speaker 2: old dots in two ten without any hair.
Speaker 3: And uh uh, so I keep doing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: When I looked at this, to get a good used
Speaker 2: car for fifteen grand, is you know, I guess I could.
Speaker 2: I would find something that'd be as much as I'd
Speaker 2: ever pay, But I thought, why don't I just see
Speaker 2: what this is this is all about? If you're going
Speaker 2: to give away this much money, and I don't think
Speaker 2: people realize how that money is given away. One the
Speaker 2: FEDS gave me seventy five hundred dollars, but you dupes
Speaker 2: in Colorado gave me another twenty.
Speaker 3: Five hundred dollars on top of that. That doesn't explain.
Speaker 1: Have you ever spoken those words before? Thank you, Jared.
Speaker 2: Pols, Thank you Jared Polis. Remember, by the way, this
Speaker 2: is the same Jared Polis. The same legislature who doesn't
Speaker 2: have funding to put people in jail, doesn't have funding
Speaker 2: to fix our roads, and next year are going to
Speaker 2: cut our road funding.
Speaker 3: By one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2: But they've got enough money to pay white, upper middle
Speaker 2: class guys who already have a car a second car.
Speaker 2: If you look at the statistics, most all electric vehicles
Speaker 2: are owned by some who already has a car, and
Speaker 2: overwhelmingly they're middle class, white guys. They already have a car.
Speaker 2: I've got a two car garage and I needed to
Speaker 2: fill the space and it's just embarrassing. The one part
Speaker 2: that is not as well known is the subsidy you
Speaker 2: get for the tailpipe emissions, and it works like this.
Speaker 2: Why is Elon Musk so very very wealthy, and oh.
Speaker 3: Well it's Tesla. Tesla is great.
Speaker 2: Well, Tesla doesn't make that much money selling Tesla's. They
Speaker 2: make gobs of money selling tailpipe emissions credits to.
Speaker 3: The other car companies.
Speaker 2: A car manufacturer has to have in whatever they build,
Speaker 2: has to have x amount of tailpipe emissions per vehicle,
Speaker 2: and they all go over it, all of them.
Speaker 3: Except one because one company.
Speaker 2: Doesn't make any cars with tailpipes, So they get to
Speaker 2: sell their tax credits, their pollution credits to their competitors.
Speaker 2: Think about how sick that hits. So they don't do
Speaker 2: anything different and they just sell their product. But their
Speaker 2: competitors have to pay them this money in order to
Speaker 2: sell the cars you want. So there's an extra seven
Speaker 2: grand in my silly little leaf that is paid for
Speaker 2: by everybody else who buys real cars that take gas,
Speaker 2: because they're paying seven thousand dollars more.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the two obvious questions are when are you
Speaker 1: writing the check to the treasury? And then does all
Speaker 1: of you fit in the leaf?
Speaker 2: I've lost a little weight and so it does you know,
Speaker 2: I've never driven an.
Speaker 3: Electric car before, and how to put it?
Speaker 2: You know that feeling when when you're not feeling well
Speaker 2: and you might need to, you know, use the bathroom
Speaker 2: real fast. It's the same feeling when you dri have
Speaker 2: an electric car because you just don't know if you're
Speaker 2: gonna make it home in time.
Speaker 3: Oh hey, well, yeah it is. It is kind of
Speaker 3: an act feeling.
Speaker 2: I mean, because I'm looking at the battery charge and
Speaker 2: it's kind of like a golf card. It's like, I
Speaker 2: don't know if this is going to make it. I
Speaker 2: don't know if this is going to make it. Uh
Speaker 2: and but so far, so good, you know, and for
Speaker 2: tooling round car at round town. Now I've got a
Speaker 2: second a second, wow car, it's more like a Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's more like a.
Speaker 1: Golf can you take it on the golf course?
Speaker 3: But how do we try? You made a purpose.
Speaker 1: I am up for that, my friend, I am up
Speaker 1: for that.
Speaker 2: But it really does tell you, you know. I I bought
Speaker 2: this thing tongue in cheek, and I was like, fine,
Speaker 2: if you're gonna I I take every tax deduction I
Speaker 2: get on my income tax form.
Speaker 3: I do what I can to plan. I'm like, wait
Speaker 3: a minute, the the.
Speaker 2: People we've put into office are going to give me
Speaker 2: seventeen grand to buy a thirty two grand car?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: No, And I'm so glad you came out on this
Speaker 1: because I didn't know all that was happening. I did
Speaker 1: not know all that was happening, and now I'm kind
Speaker 1: of intrigued. I've never driven an electric car.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of you know, it's kind of cool.
Speaker 3: It's different. It's like a fast golf cart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it can go pretty fast quickly, but it just
Speaker 2: can't go far.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, my friend, and not to
Speaker 1: be Danny Downer. I know that it's a Friday afternoon,
Speaker 1: but you know the kind of work I do, all
Speaker 1: this catastrophic stuff. What about safety?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: What about because honestly, I was just talking to Amy
Speaker 1: last night. We have such exciting conversations about how we're
Speaker 1: seeing so many more of these like big high speed
Speaker 1: rear end crashes, because you got all these people are
Speaker 1: drugged up and crazed and they're driving one hundred miles
Speaker 1: an hour. But is there going to be anything left
Speaker 1: for what'll be the most widely attended funeral in Colorado history?
Speaker 1: If God forbid, we lose you in a leaf crash.
Speaker 3: Well, especially if I get hit by a light rail.
Speaker 2: I think that would that would be the biggest celebration
Speaker 2: in town. The Interestingly, there there are some safety factors
Speaker 2: you don't you don't think about. Uh, since these things
Speaker 2: haven't been around that long, you know, we don't know
Speaker 2: what the lithium batteries do. You don't know what the
Speaker 2: what has to happen to recycle the lithium batteries. So surprisingly,
Speaker 2: it has an eight year guarantee on the battery, but
Speaker 2: after that it goes down pretty fast, which is why
Speaker 2: the resale value isn't that great. I think they've got
Speaker 2: the fires under control. So if my house burns down,
Speaker 2: it's because there's a there's a big lithium battery in
Speaker 2: my garage. What's odd is that that there's there's uh
Speaker 2: the amper.
Speaker 3: I think it's the amperage.
Speaker 2: I'm not a I'm not great on the olms versus
Speaker 2: amperage versus waters thing. But it puts out something like
Speaker 2: four hundred vaults or something out of it.
Speaker 3: It's to the to the motor.
Speaker 2: So they have these orange cables, and the orange cables
Speaker 2: under the hood are are very clear, like don't cut
Speaker 2: this because you'll die. So there's there's that safety. It's
Speaker 2: less likely to flip over because there's such a heavy
Speaker 2: car and the batteries are underneath, so that that works.
Speaker 1: You got that going for you? I for one second
Speaker 1: only because they're against our herd break. Can you come
Speaker 1: back in the next segment because I also want to
Speaker 1: ask you about your interview with Sheriff Weekly.
Speaker 2: By by all means yeah, it's a Friday night, what like,
Speaker 2: I got a date.
Speaker 1: Not when you want to leave. Yeah, John's track, Barrel's
Speaker 1: with us, and we're going to come back in and
Speaker 1: talk about his really compelling interview with Sheriff Weekly about
Speaker 1: gang infiltration in and around Denver and more. You're on
Speaker 1: the Dankpla Show.
Speaker 5: And now back to the dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1: One of the many benefits of Donald Trup's victory. Yes,
Speaker 1: because it's finally a dance everybody can do. Even I
Speaker 1: can do this dance.
Speaker 3: You can do this dance little fists in the air.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, It's just like I just thought you were
Speaker 3: doing this for celebration in my new car.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, another jab Really one of John's most fun
Speaker 1: columns anyway, Complete Colorado, John writing about getting his new
Speaker 1: electric leaf, which you and I paid for, by the way,
Speaker 1: or at least a big chunk of it. So we've
Speaker 1: had a fun conversation without that.
Speaker 3: You especially, I want to thank each and every one
Speaker 3: of you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, my pleasure. And well, all, uh, what day
Speaker 1: do we get it? Where's the sign up sheet? We
Speaker 1: got a texter, says ask John about insurance on the leaf.
Speaker 1: I heard it's higher with an electric car.
Speaker 3: Oh, that might well be. Oh, I will definitely check
Speaker 3: that out.
Speaker 1: Well, it's going to be higher than your used car, right,
Speaker 1: because your used car I think fifteen years old?
Speaker 3: Yeahs who buys new cars? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, And I was going to ask you
Speaker 1: what's the best used car to buy? Because I did
Speaker 1: that last time around. I got a used version of
Speaker 1: a car I'd always dreamed of getting. And like tonight,
Speaker 1: I'll drive my son's Jeep home he's away at school
Speaker 1: because it's in the shop again. It was in the
Speaker 1: shop two months ago for a month and a half.
Speaker 1: So where do you get these used cars that just
Speaker 1: keep running?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, since I've been doing this ever since
Speaker 2: I was a kid, buying used cars because it was
Speaker 2: all I could afford. I got really good at finding them.
Speaker 2: But ever since the left's desire to screw over poor people,
Speaker 2: particularly with the Cash for Clunkers program, and it's been
Speaker 2: harder and harder and harder to get good used cars
Speaker 2: that you know, I check out on Craigslist or now
Speaker 2: on what is a Facebook marketplace, and I could always
Speaker 2: find something. I mentioned my column a car. I bought
Speaker 2: it out of college for five hundred bucks and I
Speaker 2: drove it for three Yeah, I sold it for nine
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty bucks.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: And when you're going to task, Yeah, when cash for
Speaker 2: clunkers came along, and they're they're one man's clunker is
Speaker 2: another one's freedom machine. And so again the left that
Speaker 2: constantly says we're here for poor people, jack's up the
Speaker 2: price of cars. And again, as we explained in the
Speaker 2: last segment, you now have to pay for the emissions
Speaker 2: credits that they have to buy, and so cars are
Speaker 2: still more expensive.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I just want to see the leaf foot color.
Speaker 1: Is it green? I'm sure?
Speaker 3: No, No, it's a very manly blue.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 2: Hey, it's in the shop right now. I'm having flames
Speaker 2: painted on the side. I think I think that don't
Speaker 2: do it. Amy's gonna dig it.
Speaker 1: Oh, I have no doubt just because she digs you.
Speaker 1: But but you had quite the interview with Sheriff Darren
Speaker 1: Weekly about gang infiltration and threats against our law enforcements.
Speaker 1: So Phil folks in on that if you would.
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the wa way, check it out on YouTube.
Speaker 2: It's Devil's Advocate with John Caldero. Just go to thinkfreedom
Speaker 2: dot org. We have it up there, thinkfreedom dot org.
Speaker 2: Darren Weekly is the sheriff of Dunco and a really
Speaker 2: outspoken guy. He spoke at the Trump rally which angered
Speaker 2: a lot of his constituents, and I asked him about
Speaker 2: the about the the immigrants who are coming in and
Speaker 2: causing the trouble, particularly the Nicaraguan doing no I'm flanking
Speaker 2: out here Venezuelan.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got leaf brain and it'll do it. And
Speaker 3: he said something just shocked me.
Speaker 2: He said, I heard about this from law enforcement in
Speaker 2: other states before I heard about it from anyone in Colorado,
Speaker 2: that the Venezuelan gangs are targeting Denver in the Denver area,
Speaker 2: and that they were targeting law enforcement, that they had
Speaker 2: the okay to go after law enforcement, including himself.
Speaker 3: So he's on a Venezuelan.
Speaker 1: Hit list, And why am I hearing about this from
Speaker 1: out of state before he's hearing about it in state?
Speaker 3: Right? They didn't really hear about it until.
Speaker 2: The media got hold of that incredible film footage at
Speaker 2: that complex where the Venezuelan gangs don't really live. I
Speaker 2: keeping up, No, they're not really here. We're arresting them now,
Speaker 2: but they're not really here. Uh, nothing to see here,
Speaker 2: nothing to see here. And I was thinking, Wow, so
Speaker 2: the guys in blue have to get their safety information
Speaker 2: out of state if it's if it has something negative
Speaker 2: to do with illegal immigrants.
Speaker 1: Let's listen to this sheriff on that for a second, John.
Speaker 6: Gang leadership had given them clearance to kill police officers
Speaker 6: in the United States. How do you know that intelligence
Speaker 6: gathered from various sources?
Speaker 7: And did all police departments in the metro area know this?
Speaker 6: I originally heard it from another agency outside the state
Speaker 6: of Colorado, and then Colorado Intelligence put it out shortly thereafter.
Speaker 3: But I initially heard it from another state. You heard
Speaker 3: it from another state.
Speaker 7: Yes, that gang activity is hot in Denver, that they've
Speaker 7: been okayed by their superiors to kill law enforcement, and
Speaker 7: that complexes are being taken over by by gangs.
Speaker 1: Yes, so John killers live with us and John, where
Speaker 1: can people see that full interview?
Speaker 2: Yeah, go to thinkfreedom dot org and there's a link
Speaker 2: right there at the Independence Institute, Paige, And by the way,
Speaker 2: or you can check out Devil's Advocate It with John
Speaker 2: Kelder on YouTube or any of your podcast platforms.
Speaker 3: So that actually makes makes for a great Listen.
Speaker 2: You don't get to see my beautiful face, but Christmas
Speaker 2: to Yeah, you know, you don't get to see the
Speaker 2: car crashes, but.
Speaker 1: You can live without that. In our last maybe forty
Speaker 1: five seconds, John, why do you think law enforcement had
Speaker 1: to be first hearing these things from out of state.
Speaker 2: I can't prove anything, but immediately you and I probably
Speaker 2: have the same thought, you know, the same culture of
Speaker 2: we're going to bring our cops to the border of
Speaker 2: Denver to stop Trump from deporting folks. Is that we're
Speaker 2: not going to let any bad, potentially dangerous news seep
Speaker 2: into Colorado if we don't have to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, even if it risks the lives of our
Speaker 1: law enforcement officers and our citizens.
Speaker 3: And our citizens.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know, I flash back to when the Hickenloper administration,
Speaker 1: John Hickenloopers said on that information kept it from the
Speaker 1: public about the vicious serial attacks that were going on
Speaker 1: in Lodo. And yeah, yeah, just stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But well there with Jenny's Griswold saying, you know, well,
Speaker 3: we're not going to.
Speaker 2: Tell people that I gave away all of ours because
Speaker 2: we don't want people to panic.
Speaker 1: Come my lord, how much worse can it get? I
Speaker 1: think we'll find out. But John, hey, thanks for the
Speaker 1: time man in great columns. Can you post a picture
Speaker 1: that of me driving my leaf belief? Maybe after the
Speaker 1: flames get painted on, I'll.
Speaker 3: Be sure to get it to you. I'm going to
Speaker 3: make your calendar.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, thank you, have a great weekend.
Speaker 3: Take care, Thank you.
Speaker 1: That's our friend, John Caldera. When we come back. Douglas
Speaker 1: County Commissioner Laura Thomas until recently she just resigned, reading
Speaker 1: a piece from Colorado Politics citing harassment from fellow officials.
Speaker 1: Laura will join us after the break on that Dan
Speaker 1: Capla show.
Speaker 5: You're listening to The Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1: Suspected CEO killer could be a disgruntled employee or client,
Speaker 1: so it's interesting that they're starting to narrow it that Way.
Speaker 1: We'll keep you up to speed on that during the
Speaker 1: course of the case. Seems to be stuff breaking on
Speaker 1: that all the time. Thanks to John Caldera who joined
Speaker 1: us a second to go and a really compelling segment
Speaker 1: as well with John Casteele at four thirty six on
Speaker 1: the show today. Beautiful thing happening in Douglas County today
Speaker 1: with Kendra Castillo Way now being a new major thoroughfare
Speaker 1: of the old Lucent Boulevard. Let's go to the VIP line.
Speaker 1: Welcome Laura Thomas back to the show. There has been
Speaker 1: kind to be with us many times over the years,
Speaker 1: and Laura, I was wow when I saw the headline
Speaker 1: today that you've resigned from your role as a county
Speaker 1: commissioner in Douglas County. Just had to get you on
Speaker 1: and find out what's going on. So thank you for
Speaker 1: joining us.
Speaker 8: And thank you for the opportunity. I've known you for
Speaker 8: a long time. Yeah, and I eve called you three
Speaker 8: years ago when my fellow commissioners George Chiel and Abe
Speaker 8: Blayden were attacking me with false narratives about me, to
Speaker 8: see if you had any advice or legal opportunities to
Speaker 8: help stop this. If you remember that, So you have
Speaker 8: been on this four year journey that I have been on,
Speaker 8: with the hate, the accusations, the censorship. And what happened
Speaker 8: is on Wednesday, two days ago, George Teele and Abe
Speaker 8: Laden directed staff to have staff in my office in
Speaker 8: the County building Monday morning to clear out my office
Speaker 8: so that Kevin van Winkle, who won my seat in
Speaker 8: the November's election, to move into my office.
Speaker 1: Now, you're term limited, is that right, Laura?
Speaker 8: That's right, jan I am term limited and I am
Speaker 8: in I was supposed to be in office until January fourteenth,
Speaker 8: so I still have had six weeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was going on with that? I mean, aren't
Speaker 1: you entitled to keep your office till the end of
Speaker 1: your term?
Speaker 8: And now, Dan, I have never heard of anybody being
Speaker 8: kicked out of their office. And I've been texting commissioners
Speaker 8: across the state that I have worked with for at
Speaker 8: least eight years, and they are all shocked at what
Speaker 8: George and Abe demanded staff to do. They have never
Speaker 8: heard of anything like this ever before.
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, So you resigned today? Boy, it seems like
Speaker 1: you've been on that board for so long now, So where,
Speaker 1: if anywhere, does it go from here?
Speaker 8: With this issue, well, with this issue. I think this
Speaker 8: part goes nowhere. But I did file a lawsuit against
Speaker 8: George and Abe back in August of twenty twenty three,
Speaker 8: and we are continuing through the Douglas County courts system
Speaker 8: on that lawsuit.
Speaker 1: What's the gist of that.
Speaker 8: George and Abe made false and baseless accusations and tried
Speaker 8: to get the Arapahoe County Sheriff's Department to criminally charge me.
Speaker 8: I hired a criminal defense attorney because I was facing
Speaker 8: possible felony charges although I never did anything wrong. A
Speaker 8: Rapaoa County Sheriff's office cleared me of all wrongdoing. George
Speaker 8: and Abe are refusing to pay my legal bills, although
Speaker 8: the state law requires that they do so, and so
Speaker 8: I'm tired of being bullied by these guys and I'm
Speaker 8: going to hold them to account.
Speaker 1: Well, silver Lining, it has to be a relief now
Speaker 1: to be out of the middle of.
Speaker 3: All of that.
Speaker 8: I would think you are absolutely right, Van, I have
Speaker 8: such a level of peace. I've had people from all
Speaker 8: over calling me and saying are you okay, And I'm like,
Speaker 8: I'm sad that I left, that I was forced to
Speaker 8: leave I had no choice. I was not going to
Speaker 8: sit in my office Monday morning. Well, employees were ordered
Speaker 8: to come move my stuff out. Think about how humiliating
Speaker 8: it for them to move a came?
Speaker 1: Oh sure, very hard on them. Yeah, wow, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: haven't heard of anything like this before. But had they
Speaker 1: ever made any effort to say, hey, can we just
Speaker 1: you know, come up with some kind of plan to
Speaker 1: get the new guy you know, coming in so he
Speaker 1: can hit the ground running and then let you leave
Speaker 1: on a pace that works for you. Had they ever
Speaker 1: proposed anything like that?
Speaker 8: You know, Dan, I offered to move out of my
Speaker 8: office on January sixth, and that would have given them
Speaker 8: whole week could clean my office.
Speaker 1: Here ready, And they wouldn't go for that.
Speaker 8: George and Abe refused to allow that to happen and said, no,
Speaker 8: staff was going to have to move me out of
Speaker 8: my office. I could not stay in it.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 8: Well, there was their office available that Kevin could have
Speaker 8: moved into very easily. And I need to say that
Speaker 8: Kevin was on the phone call, on the office call
Speaker 8: when we were discussing this matter, and at no time
Speaker 8: did Kevin van Winkle say, you know, wait, I'm happy
Speaker 8: to move into that extra office and let Commissioner Thomas
Speaker 8: fulfill her term with dignity. Kevin never said that either.
Speaker 1: Well, boy, I'm sorry it came to all that, Laura.
Speaker 1: But but what's next for you? What's next for you
Speaker 1: in life? Any politics?
Speaker 8: I don't know about politics. What I know first of
Speaker 8: all is that I have been beat up for four
Speaker 8: years by George and Abe, and my soul needs to
Speaker 8: russ and I will know when I am healed and
Speaker 8: I am ready to get back into whatever God sends
Speaker 8: my way. It's really God. I listen to God. He
Speaker 8: is going to help me know what.
Speaker 3: I do next.
Speaker 1: It is always the right thing to do. But well,
Speaker 1: I sure wish you the best.
Speaker 8: You know, Dan, you've been a personal friend for years.
Speaker 8: You're an excellent attorney. Thank you for this quick phone
Speaker 8: call and know that I still care deeply about my constituous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thank you, Laura, appreciate the time.
Speaker 8: Thank you, Dan, God bless you guys, you too.
Speaker 1: You take care And yeah, well said that it came
Speaker 1: to that, But it sounds like Laura has some peace
Speaker 1: and do Yeah. I've known Laura forever. You've definitely been friends,
Speaker 1: and our office not in connection with any of this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But our office has provided some legal
Speaker 1: representation as well. So I've just always known her as
Speaker 1: a real neat lady and did a lot of good work.
Speaker 1: And I'm just sorry that this chapter ended this way.
Speaker 9: But.
Speaker 1: I'm sure she will have a much more pleasant next
Speaker 1: few weeks out of that pressure cooker. Eight five to
Speaker 1: five for zero five two five five the number. Wow, Hey,
Speaker 1: let me get to these jam lines. There's so much
Speaker 1: going on today. Why don't we go down to a
Speaker 1: beautiful Colorado springs, Colorado. Talk to Warren, you're on the
Speaker 1: Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna ask you a couple of questions. What
Speaker 4: do you think Trump's going to do for what kind
Speaker 4: of a What do you think his offer is going
Speaker 4: to be in this or there in Ukraine that he
Speaker 4: says he thinks he can do it in twenty four hours?
Speaker 4: What do you think he's have the idea what he
Speaker 4: might be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my guess is that Russia is going to get
Speaker 1: to keep some territory and that Ukraine is going to
Speaker 1: get security guarantees short of natal membership.
Speaker 4: Okay, well that's what I've been seeing in the news too,
Speaker 4: and the other question I had for you if you
Speaker 4: ever do you know a professor named John Mursheimer doesn't
Speaker 4: ring a bell?
Speaker 1: Is he the guy who gave me the ad? I
Speaker 1: think they fired a man to that. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. My friend poor.
Speaker 4: Attempted you may You got a six minute video on
Speaker 4: YouTube the professor. He's in the Air Force for ten years,
Speaker 4: way back. But he's really smart and articulate, highly intelligent
Speaker 4: and well respected throughout his deals international politics. He's got
Speaker 4: a six minute video called the most Important Video on
Speaker 4: your Craine. I highly recommend you to watch it. It
Speaker 4: only takes six minutes of your time.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, Warrenot, I'm guessing he agrees with you on Ukraine.
Speaker 1: But but I appreciate the call and hope you have
Speaker 1: a great weekend. We've got this hard break here everybody
Speaker 1: else on the line. I promise I'm going to get
Speaker 1: to you right out of this break. To our great
Speaker 1: Texters as well. Another wild day with you know in
Speaker 1: the Daniel Penny trial, what a disgrace he was even charged.
Speaker 1: In the latest on the CEO murdered. Lots more new
Speaker 1: information today you're on the Dankapla.
Speaker 5: Show and now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast, John.
Speaker 10: Petterman ultimately working with folks like Elon Musk and for
Speaker 10: Baked Ramaswami who will be it?
Speaker 1: Yeah again, I.
Speaker 3: Admire mister Musk.
Speaker 10: He's been involved in very important parts of American society, AI,
Speaker 10: SpaceX and other kinds of things. Yes, he's on the
Speaker 10: on a different team, but that doesn't make me an enemy.
Speaker 10: I don't be automatically going to become a critic. It's like, hey,
Speaker 10: he has made you know, he's made our economy and
Speaker 10: our nation better, and our politics are different, and I
Speaker 10: don't agree with some of the things that he might say,
Speaker 10: but that doesn't make him, like I said, an enemy.
Speaker 1: I think America wants to hear more of that eight
Speaker 1: five five for zero five eight two five five. Obviously
Speaker 1: I disagree with Fetterman and a lot of big issues,
Speaker 1: but I think he's taken the right approach there. By
Speaker 1: the way, quick, let's call it a trivia question, though
Speaker 1: not so trivial. How much do you think Elon Musk
Speaker 1: spent to support the Trump election? Because there's just been
Speaker 1: some new filings today, how much? What would your number be?
Speaker 3: One hundred million?
Speaker 1: Kelly I would say two hundred million. Yeah, according to
Speaker 1: the recent filings, and he probably spent more, but a
Speaker 1: minimum of two hundred and forty million, Thank god for him,
Speaker 1: and thank god he spent that money. And my guess
Speaker 1: is that he spent it very wisely.
Speaker 11: So I think I might have asked you a version
Speaker 11: of this question before, But do you think Donald Trump
Speaker 11: wins the election without either Elon Musk's full throated support
Speaker 11: and dollars behind it, or RFK Junior joining forces with
Speaker 11: him without either of those two things happening.
Speaker 1: My first thought is he doesn't win without both happening,
Speaker 1: without the combo pack, right? Could he have won without
Speaker 1: one or the other?
Speaker 11: Maybe?
Speaker 1: And what a great question you asked. Let me take
Speaker 1: it a step further, okay, because I think both were
Speaker 1: vitally important. But I think in the end, because of
Speaker 1: Trump's strength and prior accomplishments, heroic response to the assassination
Speaker 1: attempt in Butler, and the weakness of Kamala Harris, I
Speaker 1: think he still wins even without that.
Speaker 11: Well, because you said it from the outset when that happened,
Speaker 11: as unfortunate and horrible as it was in Pennsylvania, that
Speaker 11: I agreed with you. I couldn't see any circumstance where
Speaker 11: Trump loses Pennsylvania after that.
Speaker 1: Now, because so many people then that, yeah, that guy's special.
Speaker 1: I want that guy in the wall, even those who
Speaker 1: don't like him. I want that guy in the wall.
Speaker 1: But Dave, let me mention a headline that's popping up
Speaker 1: here in CNN that's going to confuse a lot of people. Ryan,
Speaker 1: it's his headline that talks about sources say the killer
Speaker 1: may have used a veterinary gun in the killing, and
Speaker 1: I hope CNNA is explaining that in more detail. Listen,
Speaker 1: these these veterinary pistols are are very common tools of assassins.
Speaker 1: And yes, they're used by vets to you mainly put
Speaker 1: animals down in certain situations. That's why they're called that.
Speaker 1: But they're also used by and have been for a
Speaker 1: long time, used by professional killers because of the fact
Speaker 1: if you pictured it wouldn't look like your standard pistol.
Speaker 1: It would look like the barrel is much more of
Speaker 1: a pure cylinder, and it's it's telescoped a little bit,
Speaker 1: and it it because it has that suppression device on
Speaker 1: the front. So when you hear veterinary gun, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think some people may be thinking, Wow, did he modify
Speaker 1: something that's used to shoot a darter or this or that. No,
Speaker 1: this is this is a full man sized pistol. It's
Speaker 1: just referred to that way because vets tend to use
Speaker 1: it in part because of the suppression of the sound. Wow,
Speaker 1: excuse me, let me squeeze in another collar here, Rick,
Speaker 1: you're on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 9: Welcome, damn chuse I'm going to remind you and your
Speaker 9: crew and everybody out there to put up their flies,
Speaker 9: if not tonight, for tomorrow. It is December seventh. Uh,
Speaker 9: poor harbor. Dan yeah r said the famous speech days
Speaker 9: they will live in infamy. It is what kip I mean,
Speaker 9: there was the kipping point of getting a lot of
Speaker 9: our fathers and a lot of people's grandfathers into the
Speaker 9: war and having to deal with that nonsense. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 9: you know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, man, Hey really appreciate that. Thank you,
Speaker 1: and thank you for that call. Heading into the weekend,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be in a jury trial next week,
Speaker 1: and so we're going to have this star studded crew
Speaker 1: hosting the show, and you're gonna have George Brockler and
Speaker 1: Heidi Gannall and Christy Burton Brown and Deborah Flora and
Speaker 1: combinations of those folks and others and all the great
Speaker 1: guests they bring on. So do I just give my
Speaker 1: key card to you on the way out, because I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's not going to work when I get back
Speaker 1: from trial.
Speaker 11: Well, I know Monday is going to be a real
Speaker 11: hoot because we haven't been able to have George on
Speaker 11: because he's been running for offices.
Speaker 3: And now that's over, right.
Speaker 11: And I can only assure listeners that you will be
Speaker 11: in store for a lot of humor and comedy and
Speaker 11: high jinks and tom foolery and maybe even shenanigans with
Speaker 11: George and myself and Kelly.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And these are all such talented, smart people, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And it just goes to the point there is so
Speaker 1: much great talent in the GOP. Yeah, And so what's
Speaker 1: it going to take for it to break through statewide?
Speaker 1: But there isn't It's going to be a fun week
Speaker 1: on the show. And you know, honestly, it's one of
Speaker 1: the things I'm proudest of over the decades on air
Speaker 1: is you know a lot of people, you know, with subs,
Speaker 1: they want to get somebody nobody would ever want to
Speaker 1: listen to right, get them back here, get them back
Speaker 1: into Where's Dan? I've always gone out and got stars
Speaker 1: to fill in for me.
Speaker 3: Got yeah, you got a good rot? Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, I I owe it to the people are kind
Speaker 1: enough to listen to this show. Get great talent in
Speaker 1: here it yeah yeah. And so no, that's that's going
Speaker 1: to be a real fun week. And uh and then
Speaker 1: depending on when the trial ends, I'll either be back
Speaker 1: in on Friday or the following Monday. And now we're
Speaker 1: going to get Pete Boyles in. And you know, there's
Speaker 1: this new movie out on the horrific murder of Allen
Speaker 1: Berg and Pete and Allen were very close and and
Speaker 1: so get Pete in and talk about the movie and
Speaker 1: talk about related issues obviously that you know, we're living
Speaker 1: through a moment now when we have a CEO murdered
Speaker 1: in New York and we've been keeping you up on
Speaker 1: the latest there and still not at all clear what
Speaker 1: the motive is there is is it a misdirection play?
Speaker 1: You know the language on the shel you know that
Speaker 1: that implies that the killing was carried out in connection
Speaker 1: with protests over claims handling et cetera. That might have
Speaker 1: been the motive, or it might be misdirection. You've got
Speaker 1: to believe authorities have identified the killer at this point,
Speaker 1: are they following the individual hoping to find out whether
Speaker 1: whether that killer was working with others. Anyway, I'm sure
Speaker 1: we'll learn much more each day. Hope you have a
Speaker 1: safe and wonderful weekend. And yeah, we have the Firm
Speaker 1: Christmas party tomorrow night, so I'm going to craft it
Speaker 1: highlight any year. Looking forward to that, Ryan, thank you
Speaker 1: for all the great work. Kelly, have a wonderful weekend,
Speaker 1: and hope you're back Monday on The Dan Caplo Show