Speaker 1: Billy Cunning out the Great America and welcome this glorious
Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon the tri State. Tomorrow is going to be
Speaker 1: the hottest day of the year, hotter than the hinges
Speaker 1: of Hell. And then by the weekend things are going
Speaker 1: to work out a little bit. REDS Baseball kicks off
Speaker 1: about five forty to night lost of course last night
Speaker 1: to one run the Oakland Athletics, too soon to be
Speaker 1: the Vegas Athletics. I guess we'll see what happens there.
Speaker 1: But number one, with all this stuff going on with
Speaker 1: the EEE virus and I supposed to get another COVID shot,
Speaker 1: Tony Benner tells me he's gonna line up for another
Speaker 1: COVID shot. Plus we have shingle vaccines going to help
Speaker 1: with Alzheimer's. So much going on. And Liz Bonus, the
Speaker 1: health reporter, of course at channel to twelve Local twelve.
Speaker 1: Where the fireworks will be on Sunday night? Liz Bonus,
Speaker 1: where will you be for the fireworks on Sunday night?
Speaker 1: The Western and Southern WEBN Fireworks the forty eighth edition.
Speaker 1: Where will you be if anywhere?
Speaker 2: Well? I have friends that have the ideal watching plate.
Speaker 2: They literally one of my girlfriends, uh purposely rents this
Speaker 2: apartment every year just to watch it right by the river.
Speaker 2: So I was down in Covington hanging out there, and
Speaker 2: everyone brings something, and there's like food that literally covers
Speaker 2: like four house fronts, you know, just to like feed everyone.
Speaker 2: So I brought like a veggie tray last year, and
Speaker 2: no one ate it.
Speaker 1: No chicken wings, Margarita's I'm not a vegete.
Speaker 3: You looked.
Speaker 1: You seem to me to be a veggie tray kind
Speaker 1: of a woman. Is that correct? You would not bring
Speaker 1: like meat loaf and ice cream, you'd bring a veggie tray, right, Well.
Speaker 3: So I would, because I like vegetables. Like even if
Speaker 3: I want a burger or something, I still want something
Speaker 3: like with it to balance it out.
Speaker 2: So I always make sure I bring something I would like.
Speaker 2: And then I'm amazed that no one else would like that.
Speaker 1: Nobody. What about Zips? You have ever go to Zips
Speaker 1: and Zips the best?
Speaker 3: You know? I have been to Zips. Yeah, but I
Speaker 3: tried the meat burger. There they have that, now, do
Speaker 3: you know?
Speaker 1: There you go? There you go again, the non meat.
Speaker 1: If you go to Zips, damn it. Get a double
Speaker 1: chase burger with ketch, a onion and pickle fries on
Speaker 1: the side and a coke. Would that be possible?
Speaker 3: Well coke no, no cold power.
Speaker 1: Megan Ally, let's get on to this. I saw the
Speaker 1: other nine on Local twelve. The EEE virus. Explain that
Speaker 1: to the American people.
Speaker 2: Okay, so there is We've had the first death sadly
Speaker 2: in the United States. It was a New Hampshire of
Speaker 2: a forty one year old guy who died from ee E.
Speaker 3: And it is this equestrine.
Speaker 2: Equestrine which is you know, usually horse related we think
Speaker 2: of or equine, but it's a virus that you get
Speaker 2: from mosquitoes. And what we know is that we've been
Speaker 2: looking out for westn Allen all the rest and we've
Speaker 2: not really.
Speaker 3: Been paying attention to this and so what yeah, what
Speaker 3: it does.
Speaker 2: It's Eastern equine encephalitis is what they die. But it's
Speaker 2: something commonly called triple E. And sometimes you hear of
Speaker 2: it as like the sleeping sickness where you get bit
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, all you want to do
Speaker 2: is sleep. But it's similar to something like West Nile,
Speaker 2: where a mosquito bites you. You don't know you have it,
Speaker 2: you start to get fevers and muscle pain, and usually
Speaker 2: the bad sign is when your mental status goes off
Speaker 2: and then your body just shuts down. And it's really
Speaker 2: sad because you don't even often know you have the
Speaker 2: virus until it's pretty advanced in your body.
Speaker 1: Is that in the Tri State the EEE is had
Speaker 1: here along with the West Nile.
Speaker 3: Well, so here's what we did yesterday.
Speaker 2: We went out with Hamilton County Public Health and we
Speaker 2: had them show us how they track and trap mosquitos,
Speaker 2: and then they send them in the state Health Department.
Speaker 2: They say, hey, check these for West Nile. And we've
Speaker 2: got West Nile in most of our mosquito pools in
Speaker 2: just about every part of the Tri State.
Speaker 3: But they would have to specifically check those mosquitoes then
Speaker 3: for this EEE. And so far we've not had reports
Speaker 3: of this. Here's the problem with the EEE. It's that
Speaker 3: you can have Eastern equine. You can also have Venezualen equine.
Speaker 2: There's all kinds of different That same problem can be
Speaker 2: have several different types. And so I'm working with something
Speaker 2: really interesting that we're doing a story on later today.
Speaker 2: I'm Local twelve Velocity Clinical Research, which has a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of research studies. They did the COVID vaccines and
Speaker 2: all that. They're actually working out a vaccine for one
Speaker 2: type of this EE, and the military really wants it
Speaker 2: because you know, you're out in like swamps and stuff
Speaker 2: like that, and it's and they're using have you ever
Speaker 2: seen those air guns rather than injectables. Whether they'll put
Speaker 2: it right up against your arm and it shoots it
Speaker 2: into the muscle without you having.
Speaker 3: To have a needle. Yeah, they're testing it with air guns.
Speaker 3: Isn't that cool?
Speaker 1: Love it right now? I give myself a high cholesterol
Speaker 1: instead of taking satins. That was messing me up my muscles.
Speaker 1: You know, I have a six pack and eight pack,
Speaker 1: my bulging muscles everywhere. And the more satins I used,
Speaker 1: the more pain I felt. So carryokas game this injectable deal.
Speaker 1: I put an injectable deal in my thigh every other
Speaker 1: week and the pain is gone. It's unbelievable. So I
Speaker 1: like the injectable As long as talking about injectibles, well,
Speaker 1: what about these weight loss drugs that are injectable and
Speaker 1: many men and women are doing them? You know more
Speaker 1: about it than most is that something we know the results.
Speaker 1: I think a fen Fen in Kentucky, what happened with
Speaker 1: Hart Valves when someone used fen Fen? Are these injectable
Speaker 1: drugs for weight loss? Do we know the long term effects?
Speaker 3: So we do know a lot of them. They started testing.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've been following some of those what they
Speaker 2: call what they are is GLP ones and they delay
Speaker 2: the gut emptying. And I've been following that research, I
Speaker 2: have to tell you for more than a decade.
Speaker 3: So we have some.
Speaker 2: Idea of what will happen if you delay gastric emptying.
Speaker 2: And essentially usually it makes you feel less hungry and
Speaker 2: then you eat less and you will lose weight.
Speaker 3: But if you talk to people who just like.
Speaker 2: A shops, they were not prepared for the fact that
Speaker 2: if you look at there's what they call a number
Speaker 2: of side effects that we we don't know how or
Speaker 2: how many people get them or how bad they get them.
Speaker 2: They're kind of what they call, you know, side effects
Speaker 2: and numbers unknown, but they'll be things like shaking and
Speaker 2: fevers and like I feel like I'm going to pass out.
Speaker 2: There's very weird things that people will tell you that
Speaker 2: they'll find from the stomach glue, tide or any of
Speaker 2: those weight loss injections, And that's what we're just starting
Speaker 2: to see because we didn't know until half.
Speaker 3: The world went on them. The biggest thing is, you know,
Speaker 3: if you're going to stay on or if you're going
Speaker 3: to go on those, they have what they call rebound
Speaker 3: weight game. If you don't stay on them.
Speaker 2: Most people can't even keep it off. And I don't
Speaker 2: mean to get like kind of gross if you're eating
Speaker 2: lunch right now, but people will tell you that you
Speaker 2: start out on that and you get constipated for like
Speaker 2: you won't go to the bathroom for like nine day,
Speaker 2: Like it's so bad that a lot of them are
Speaker 2: like I can't stay on this.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Why, but things like you know this constipation, the stomach pain,
Speaker 2: hair loss, blistering, burning sensations, like all kinds of weird
Speaker 2: things that like we don't know really how prevalent they
Speaker 2: are because not everybody was on it until now.
Speaker 1: Tony Benner tells me about side effects and include flatulence.
Speaker 1: What can you tell me about flatulence at work? That's
Speaker 1: always an embarrassing.
Speaker 3: I know that is so true.
Speaker 2: We I grew up with brothers so We rarely had
Speaker 2: a meal conversation that somebody wasn't talking about passing gas.
Speaker 2: So I'm very comfortable talking about this. And there's there
Speaker 2: is a product that's still out there, but a lot
Speaker 2: of people don't know about it. Yeah, where it's called
Speaker 2: pino before quiet after remember.
Speaker 3: That after Okay, yeah, bino, And you take it with
Speaker 3: some of the foods that are gassy and.
Speaker 2: It will write, it'll break down.
Speaker 3: The gassiness that usually it comes from things like you know, brock,
Speaker 3: glee or fiber. And you know, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: It's not a pleasant side effect. But when you eat
Speaker 2: the way you should, you probably should have plenty of
Speaker 2: passing gas going on.
Speaker 1: Well, if nothing but fruit trays and salads, you probably
Speaker 1: have less flatulence than a double change burner from zips.
Speaker 1: Is that fair to say that salad doesn't produce flatulence?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: Sometimes it does though, because it has fiber in it,
Speaker 2: So you know, I wouldn't rule that out.
Speaker 3: And that's not a bad thing.
Speaker 1: All right, To go back to GLP DASH one side effects,
Speaker 1: aren't there a I've read somewhere that there may be
Speaker 1: positive side effects. In addition to losing weight, you've got
Speaker 1: to stay on it, maybe for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: It was just something I read of the JAMA about
Speaker 1: positive side effects, much like Tony tells me about viagra,
Speaker 1: that it was it was developed for one reason and
Speaker 1: then it had the an effect that, shall we say,
Speaker 1: enhanced male performance on the other and didn't know about
Speaker 1: it until they went through it. And so yeah, and
Speaker 1: between GLP one and viager, I think Tony's trying everything,
Speaker 1: But what what can you tell me about a positive
Speaker 1: side effect of GLP one?
Speaker 3: Poor Tony, He's become our experimental person, like it. Let's
Speaker 3: Tony trying.
Speaker 2: Actually, there's a lot of them. There are sexual side effects,
Speaker 2: they think. Some people are reporting that it simulates the
Speaker 2: same center in the brain where you would have an orgasm,
Speaker 2: and they're better because of that. You'd have to talk
Speaker 2: to those people who say that, and why that happens,
Speaker 2: we don't know. There are some people who say they
Speaker 2: can quit drinking alcohol if they want, or they're drinking
Speaker 2: less because they don't have the same addiction.
Speaker 3: Yeah, usually you know, those two things you think about
Speaker 3: going hand in hand. So I thought I'd mentioned this,
Speaker 3: But and then there's some thought that there's a reduced
Speaker 3: risk for certain cancer, specifically looking at colon cancer right now,
Speaker 3: where they might see a difference in people who are
Speaker 3: on this drug. Now, whether that's because you lose weight
Speaker 3: and and weight we know influences hormones, and hormones influences cancer,
Speaker 3: we're not really sure, or whether there's actually something in
Speaker 3: the gut that gets your gut better balance, because gut balance,
Speaker 3: now we know, is really important. You know that, right,
Speaker 3: That's the whole I.
Speaker 1: Worry about my gut balance all the time. I had
Speaker 1: a pork chop last night from Montgomery, and I was
Speaker 1: thinking about my gut balance. But damn it tasted pretty good.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So on this sexual effect on GLP one,
Speaker 1: does that involve women in addition to men or just men,
Speaker 1: because you know, sometimes women need a little jump start,
Speaker 1: according to Tony Bender, So is this something that might
Speaker 1: get a woman all excited if you.
Speaker 3: Look up the research about what we know? Now, keep
Speaker 3: in mind, we don't know how.
Speaker 2: Frequent these are because we're just getting them. But both
Speaker 2: women and men.
Speaker 3: Report sexual side effects.
Speaker 2: Some say that it changes the libido, It can go
Speaker 2: up or go down.
Speaker 3: Some say that it increases the sensation. Some people say
Speaker 3: that their bodies have less energy, so they don't have
Speaker 3: as much dizaz in the bedroom. You know, you have
Speaker 3: to ask the person that's feeling that.
Speaker 2: I don't think we know enough, but we're definitely seeing
Speaker 2: it from both genders.
Speaker 3: I will have you know.
Speaker 1: So you need some research. We need some real life
Speaker 1: research on this. Is that correct? If you ever thought
Speaker 1: about going to Zips, get double cheeseburger and get some
Speaker 1: onion rings, maybe fries, and then have a coke, then
Speaker 1: drive around the corner, go to Greaters and get like
Speaker 1: a banana split as Liz Bonus ever done that.
Speaker 3: I have not done that. But now that you've planted
Speaker 3: the idea, maybe maybe I should dry.
Speaker 1: You're in great shape. I'm thinking maybe you need a
Speaker 1: cheeseburger and some malt now and then. But let's talk
Speaker 1: about the COVID vaccine. I've taken six versions because according
Speaker 1: to christ Hospital, I had to, and I'm in the
Speaker 1: mode now I'm not taking any more COVID vacs. Tell
Speaker 1: me why I'm right or wrong?
Speaker 2: Well, did you get it yet this summer, because but
Speaker 2: everybody else did not.
Speaker 1: To my knowledge, I don't know if I got a call.
Speaker 1: You know, I refuse to test anyway, and I don't
Speaker 1: want the vacuo. So I might have it, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I'd rather be ignorant than smart. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, and I don't know. I don't know, and
Speaker 1: I don't care, so I don't. I don't know should I,
Speaker 1: should I get the vax or not.
Speaker 3: So you need to ask your personal position whether you
Speaker 3: should get it, and I'll tell you why. If you
Speaker 3: are a person of compromised immunity, we are so far
Speaker 3: away from the variants that were in the original vaccines.
Speaker 2: We're now into the kp ones, twos and threes, and
Speaker 2: those previous vaccines don't give you any coverage. The problem is,
Speaker 2: even if you had COVID before, you might not get
Speaker 2: any coverage either.
Speaker 3: There are people who say, I got.
Speaker 2: COVID this summer with these new variants, and it was
Speaker 2: like I got it for the first time, right. And
Speaker 2: I have to tell you, I have a brother who's
Speaker 2: a complete no vaxed person, won't do it, and he
Speaker 2: just got out of the hospital.
Speaker 3: He at a lung clot.
Speaker 2: And the last time he had COVID he got clots.
Speaker 2: I mean, like we were looking for it this time.
Speaker 2: But it's be very serious. So I think you need
Speaker 2: to look at your risk profile. And if you're a
Speaker 2: person you know what happened to you when the first
Speaker 2: time you go did end up in the hospital, you
Speaker 2: might want to consider the vaccine. If you are like, okay,
Speaker 2: now that you've got your wonderful Heart team following you
Speaker 2: and they say you're gonna be all right, then you know,
Speaker 2: maybe you can go without it. But we have a
Speaker 2: summer surge, I mean, you know, a significant like numbers
Speaker 2: tripled now, nothing like they were when it first started.
Speaker 2: But we're going to get a winter surge we always do,
Speaker 2: of pretty much any virus that thrives when people get
Speaker 2: next to each other indoors.
Speaker 3: And you know, as you always say, like if you're
Speaker 3: kissing Tony, we're going to have some problems here because
Speaker 3: that's gonna spread.
Speaker 1: So you're saying, though the version of COVID now out
Speaker 1: are putting people in the hospital who otherwise would not
Speaker 1: have been there. But then if you get the vaccine
Speaker 1: and you still I know one guy who got the vaccine,
Speaker 1: he still went to the hospital because he was so sick,
Speaker 1: sick as a dog. So getting the new vaccine doesn't
Speaker 1: mean you won't go to the hospital. But it does
Speaker 1: mean you're like they have less effect. So it was
Speaker 1: up to you, would you get the vaccine yes or no?
Speaker 1: Liz Bonus, you're the man. You make it happen, and
Speaker 1: the new vaccine, yes or no.
Speaker 3: Okay, I've had three. I did not get the fourth
Speaker 3: one just be hounce, and I just didn't.
Speaker 2: I felt like I wasn't at risk in that I
Speaker 2: might get this next one moving into the October time,
Speaker 2: just because I think we're gonna, if it's anything like summer,
Speaker 2: we're going to have this kind of nasty season of it.
Speaker 2: So I'm kind of considering it. And it's mainly just
Speaker 2: because think about where I go. I go into all
Speaker 2: the hospitals to interview people I go, and you know,
Speaker 2: some of it is about me saying well, and some
Speaker 2: of it is like, man, I feel really bad I
Speaker 2: gave it to you know, one of the people that
Speaker 2: I'm interviewing that has some kind of compromised immunity, and I,
Speaker 2: you know, I feel some sense of responsibility for all that.
Speaker 1: I don't feel any responsibility, So that's good. Tony Bonner
Speaker 1: feels no responsibility. So and and the other thing is, uh,
Speaker 1: this is going to be around for the rest of
Speaker 1: our lives. And uh, some people I know got the
Speaker 1: vax and the vaccine made them sick as a dog immediately.
Speaker 1: And someone very close to me, a woman got the
Speaker 1: vaccine three times, and each time she was in bed
Speaker 1: for a week after getting the vaccine, and she's now saying, look,
Speaker 1: I'm not getting any more vaccines. And what do you
Speaker 1: say about that person?
Speaker 2: There are people who say that they get flu like
Speaker 2: symptoms when they get that, and that usually means that
Speaker 2: you have actually a pretty strong response to the vaccine,
Speaker 2: which isn't all bad. It's your body making into bodies
Speaker 2: to fight back.
Speaker 3: But you know, I didn't.
Speaker 2: I have had very few people tell me that they
Speaker 2: got so thick that they had to stay at BET.
Speaker 2: Most people just steel kind of achy and have a
Speaker 2: sore arm and that kind of thing. And that's why
Speaker 2: they do a lot of those studies. They can measure
Speaker 2: that you build up immunity. But some people when they're
Speaker 2: building that up, you know, you feel kind of crummy, right,
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't tell you not to get.
Speaker 3: It for that reason.
Speaker 2: I'd tell you that you probably had a pretty good
Speaker 2: response to it, which means that you should be better protected.
Speaker 3: Are pretty well protected compared to some this winter. But
Speaker 3: like you said, it's going to be here every year.
Speaker 2: So just like you make a decision about the flu vaccine, right,
Speaker 2: And you know, if you ever had the flu and
Speaker 2: you got to crawl downstairs to try to give a
Speaker 2: glass of water, you get a flu shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I had the flu ten years ago and I
Speaker 1: never had a flu shot every year. I now get
Speaker 1: it at Adrian Pharmacy and madeir I get it because
Speaker 1: I don't want to feel like my body has died.
Speaker 1: And I thought, oh, and I haven't had the flu
Speaker 1: since I got it, But I will see what happens.
Speaker 1: But Liz Bonus, I'm glad you're there. And I guess
Speaker 1: the number one piece of advice is have trust in
Speaker 1: your doctor. And if your doctor says yes, do it.
Speaker 1: If he says no, don't do it. If he says maybe,
Speaker 1: it's up to you. I always tell my accountant, I
Speaker 1: want a one armed accountant. Don't tell me on this
Speaker 1: hand you can do this and on that hand you
Speaker 1: can do that. I'd like a one armed doctor. Tell
Speaker 1: me yes or no. Don't put it on me to
Speaker 1: make the decision. You tell me what to do, and
Speaker 1: I'll do it. But Liz Bonus, once again, thank you,
Speaker 1: and we'll be watching Thursday night for the fireworks. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Sunday Night for the Fireworks is going to be a
Speaker 1: great evening. Liz Bonus, once again, thank you for coming
Speaker 1: on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Liz Bonus, you're a
Speaker 1: great American.
Speaker 3: Back at you, Willie.
Speaker 1: God bless America. Let's continue with more flatulence, viagra and
Speaker 1: more at your home of the Reds playing tonight. Hopefully
Speaker 1: they'll win by one or two runs. Unlike last night,
Speaker 1: they called another one up. On news radio seven hundred WLW,
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