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are so embarrassed sometimes and afraid to ask a question.

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But I can guarantee one thing that there are many

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listeners out there that are hearing these questions and saying,

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about that same thing, but I just didn't want to call.

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You're going to find out that so many of you

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share the same questions, the same problems. So I think

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this can help for everyone. As a matter of fact,

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we got an email from Kate. Kate is moving from

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Northern Virginia to New Mexico and she has a cat

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named super Mario, as in Mario super Mario Brothers, but

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she just calls him Mario. And Mario is not a

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very good traveler, and Kate was wondering what should she do.

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Should she brave Mario in the car, either she or

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her husband or her kids are going to drive the

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cars across country or whoever's not going to drive, should

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they fly him? And of course Nara nervous about the

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flying as well, and I asked her, well, how does

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he do in the car. Well, let's put it this way.

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She says, it's about a fifteen minute ride to her

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vet hospital, and this poor Mario is screaming in the

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car the whole fifteen minutes. So you can imagine what

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Mario is going to be like driving from Virginia to

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New Mexico. I said, throw him in the plane, even

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if you have to put him in the bottom. No,

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we did explain seriously that you know, if you have

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a pet that's not a great traveler, there are ways

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that you can get your pet used to say, a car,

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and that is that it's a behavioral technique that we

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are first going to call to desensitize. We're going to

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desensitize the pet to the car, and then counter condition,

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which means we're gonna actually at least try to get

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that dog or cat to like the car. So the

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way we do it is again through positive reinforcement. You know,

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I'm a big fan of positive reinforcement, and I'm also

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an okay fan when.

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Speaker 3: It comes to treats.

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Speaker 2: When it comes to positive reinforcement, at least at the beginning,

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I always recommend coupling the treat with hugs and kisses

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in good boy, good boy, good girl, good girl. And

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then ultimately you can set a ween off on the treats.

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But to start, we're gonna treat. So again, what I

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would have Kate do with the cat with Mario is

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take Mario and put him in the car. Put him

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in his carrier. However you're gonna do it, start the engine,

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sit there for a minute, get Mario out of the car,

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and then go back in the house into his nice

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comfortable area, give some pat a little food reward, a

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little treat, a little piece of turkey or something, and

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life is grand. And every day you spend a little

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bit more time in the car, a little bit more

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time in the car. Maybe at first it's a couple

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of minutes, until you get to the point where you

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can go ten minutes. Now again you haven't even left

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the driveway yet, but you're just getting your pet acclimated

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use to the car.

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Speaker 3: Then what you do is on the next day is going.

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Speaker 2: To roll out of the driveway, put the car back

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and drive, go right back into the driveway, and then

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do the same thing each time, a little bit more,

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a little bit more to you can go around the

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block until you can stop at your local supermarket, ultimately

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go to the veterinarian. But every time it's fun, it's reward.

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It's hugs and kisses, et cetera. And most dogs, for example,

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that don't travel well, it's not they might even vomit.

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It's not true motion sickness that gets them. It's the anxiety.

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motion sickness medications. People take them for vertigo. But the

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key really is you want to control the anxiety. And

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to control the anxiety, we have to make this fun.

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you have to make it fun. You need to stop regularly.

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into a seat belt or in their carrier, or if

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you have like an SUV, you can get one of

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those like those gates that you put behind the back

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seat so they're somewhat under control. And I would actually

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hook their leash up to something. You want them to

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still have some control.

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Speaker 3: You don't want them running all over the car.

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Speaker 2: And remember that dogs love to stick their heads out

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of open windows in the car, which is fine to

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a degree as long as they're tied up on the inside.

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Is there and there as long as they're attached. But

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remember that there is something called exposure caro titis. Exposure

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carotitis is where the wind those dust particles hitting the eyeballs.

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It's eighty ninety miles an hour. We don't go ninety,

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go sixty divid to seventy five miles an hour much

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more like. It can cause some irritation in the cornea is.

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little like an artificial tier ointment. There's some sort of

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lubricating protective gel into the eyes before you put them

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in the car and let them stick their heads out

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of the window. They also I saw I'm not involved,

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I'm not necessarily endorsing them letting it. I saw them

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called doggles, which are doggy goggles. And I've seen lots

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of pictures of dogs, you know, with the with their

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sort of their ask got tied around their neck and

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their goggles on and they're they're sticking their heads out

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the window. So those can be protected as well. Now,

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is if you have a really long trip, it's gonna

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be just brutal for you and for the dog. If

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you can fly where you can take the pet into

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the cabin with you. I'm not a huge fan of

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flying animals below. Sometimes you have to generally buy and

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large it's safe.

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Speaker 3: You hear.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the horror stories go online. You're gonna hear

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the ones that died underneath the luggast compartment, wasn't temperature control,

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wasn't pressurized whatever. Yes, those terrible things do happen, but

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that is a major minority. People fly their pets every

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single day. I've seen it. I've been at the airport

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when people are collecting their pets. Then they do just fine.

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you know, like you're going from southern California to northern California,

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take your pet in the car. But if you have

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a cross country trip, I don't know which is going

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to be more difficult, more challenging, more nerve racking, the

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knowledge of being them being below or driving with them

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in a car. Now, when it comes to pets however,

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that are under the weight limit that is allowed in

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the airplane, then go for it and you get one

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of those very safe airline carriers. A number of brands

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out there, so many of them are now airline approved.

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You just have to know that you have to put

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them in the plane with you. You put them under

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the seat in front of you, like a carry on

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a piece of luggage. You are not going to put

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them in the overhead compartment. You are not going to

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check them through the X ray machine. You have to

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take the pet out of the carrier. I know this

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sounds funny. I know you're thinking, oh, really, people are

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really going to put them through And the answer is

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sadly yes. So you are allowed to take them out

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of the carrier and as you walk through that line

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you can have them in your arms and then you

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put them back in the carrier. So the carrier has

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to go through the belt, but not the pet inside

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the carrier.

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Speaker 2: As far as tranquilization, talk to your veterinarian. There are

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a lot of natural calming type formulas available that are great.

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They work very well. You can also think about some

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sort of tranquilizer. I'm not a big fan, but they're available. Again,

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you want to speak with your veterinarian, make sure you're

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pet talers.

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Speaker 3: That what I would do.

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Speaker 2: If you're going to use one of these medications, do

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yourself a favor and do maybe a dry run, maybe

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a couple of days before travel, Give the smallest dose

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possible and see if it works, because sometimes that's all

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you need, just enough to get them started, to get

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them into the carrier, to get them on the plane,

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or get them in the car. Once they're in there,

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then they're kind of acclimated. They see, okay, there's really

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no reason to freak out. I got mom and dad

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with me or whatever. Then you can stop right there.

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I usually give people in the smallest amount quantity and

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give them a few repeat doses just in case the

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pet starts to freak. But I have to tell you

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I have been lucky enough where I don't think the

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pet was lucky once they found out I was a veterinarian.

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But I've been lucky enough to sit next to people

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randomly in a plane with their pets and they do

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just fine. Here are some tricks that you don't want

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to share it with very many people, but side attendance.

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Some of them are really nice, really cool, and some

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of them aren't. Suffice it to say, so, what I've

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often told people to do is this, after you hit

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the ten thousand feet or whatever it is and everybody relaxed,

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the seat out signe goes off, you can take the

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carrier and put it on your lap. Then take your

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jacket or blanket and put it over your carrier. Then

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open a zipper up the front panel, and you can

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keep that open and stick your hand in the carrier

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and pet and hug your dog or your cat, whatever

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the case may be. And that's sort of they love

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that one thing. Because this did happen to one of

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my clients. It turned out to be.

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Speaker 3: Very, very embarrassing. And here's what happened.

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Speaker 2: She had the carrier on her lap, and she had

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look chihuaba and she's got her hand inside the carrier,

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and the chuah is relaxed, and she's relaxed, and you know,

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kind of we're buck of that scene, you know the

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movie National Impoom Vacation, where you know, the camera shoots

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on the kids in the back seat and they're sleeping,

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oh peacefully, and then it goes on Beverly DeAngelo.

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Speaker 3: And she's sleeping peacefully.

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Speaker 2: Then the choo Chevy Chase is driving the car and

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they're in his head back snoring away.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: Well, she fell asleep and her little dog decided to

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get up and had to go to the bathroom. So

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while the owner is sleeping, the dog jumps out of

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the bag, out of the carrier, takes a walk down

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the aisle. All of a sudden, she gets a nudge

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by the guy sitting next to her says, uh, give

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that little too while, and she goes, yeah, yeah, because

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of course the carriers under the blanket. Well, yeah, he

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just took it dump in the middle of the aisle,

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So you want to make sure that this does not

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happen to you. She was rather embarrassed, So while you

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ponder that scene of having her getting up collecting her

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little dog cleaning up a poop in the middle of

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an aisle in first class, we're going to take a

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quick break and we'll be back in a second. Once again,

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Ask the Bets with doctor Jeff. Here on pet Life Radio,

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my God, the time goes so fast. We have about

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We want to hear from you. We are it's a

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and we will actually not just calling in, not just

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get your question answered. We will send to you some free,

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pro sense pet product. Will you have to let us

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know what kind of pet you have with your dog

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or a cat age, and we will send you out

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an appropriate product that your pet will benefit and that

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will make you benefit because let's face it, you keep

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them happy, they're going to keep you happy. So anyway,

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we're just talking about in the first half of the show,

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how Kate was taking her a little cat or not

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so little cat Mario cross country. We talked about the

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benefits of the car drive versus the airplane travel. So

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you know, anytime you're thinking of traveling with your pet,

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check with your veterinarian. There are so many things to

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think about, and as I've often mentioned before on our show,

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is make sure however you're going and wherever you're going

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that if it is going to be with family, if

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you're I'm assuming you're not moving to your new home

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it is the case with Kate, but you are traveling

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because you're going to vacation. That if you're going to

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go to a hotel, if you're going to go to

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a campground, if you are going to go to a

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friend or relative's home, make sure they know your pet

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is coming. Make sure hotels know the particulars because a

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lot of them on their advertising on the web page

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will say pet friendly until you show up with one

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hundred and eighty pound great Dane. So it's very important

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to know. Are there limitations to size, to how many

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knights they allow a pet. We're in the hotel, you

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might have a whole separate area that you don't want

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to stay in that area. So it's very important to

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check out. I just came from the I was in

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Kansas City at the Central Veternight Conference, which was fantastic,

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and staying at one of the Sheraton hotels and they

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called the Crown Center, and anyway, it was a great, great,

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great hotel, and you know, I realized I didn't know this,

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but they call it the Crown Center. Is not because

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the guy who came up in the area, or not

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because it's named after some guy named Crown, but it

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is kind of named after a company and a company

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that was founded right there in Kansas City, whose main

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headquarters is Kansas City. And I'll give you a hint.

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They're very popular company. It allows people to stay in

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touch with each other. It sponsors some really cool stories

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you might see on TV. And he guesses, well, it's Hallmark,

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the greeting card company. If you look at the Hallmark logo,

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it's got that crown on top. So they have the

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big Hallmark main offices are right there in this area

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that they've called the Crown Center, and it's really cool.

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offices are right there across the street. And it also

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connects the couple of hotels like the Crown Center Sheraton,

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the Crown Center Western. It's a really terrific area and

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it's so close to the Convention Center, the Power and

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Light District. Anyway, you know, it was just amazed how

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many dogs are in the hotel. And you know, again

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not that I'm so surprised being in a veteran conference.

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I'm going to see a lot of dogs, but even

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at the Sheraton they were and good sized dogs too.

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a helpful end to anyone who is going to be

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planning on traveling, please please please be responsible. Make sure

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your dogs are good, make sure they don't screw up

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a room, clean up after them, properly, take them out frequently,

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make sure they don't bark. Because we are so thrilled

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that there are so many pet friendly hotels that I'm

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talking major chains of pet friendly hotels, you know, like

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the Sheraton for example, that we don't want to ruin

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it for everybody else. We want to keep them, you know,

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kind of liking when people come with their pets. It

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certainly opens up some avenues for them and it increases

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their visitors. That many many people like to travel their pets.

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Speaker 3: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: You know, we are literally days away from Labor Day,

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if you can believe it, back to school time. So

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if there any last minute errands that you need to

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do with your pets, now's the time to do it.

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I know a lot of moms out there, I'm amazed

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how many schools are already back in session. And I'm

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not talking colleges. Colleges start like, gosh, you know, they're

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starting down in the middle of late August because they

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want to be out bite Memorial Day. And I couldn't

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believe it. When I was in school, I was on

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the quarter system, so we started late. But man, I

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hated getting out middle to late June when I have

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so many friends are by Memorial they were already out

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of school. And my kids went to a semester school

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and I was I mean, they were it was great,

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they loved it. They started early, but they were done early,

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and I think that's really cool. But if you have

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any errands to do anything to do with your pets,

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see pets more during the summer and even the spring,

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everyone's so you know, preoccupied with doing the kids shopping

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and getting everybody everything ready for school. And in the morning,

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you're making the lunches and you're taking the kids to

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school and whatever that the pets take a back seat.

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So you know, don't let them take a back seat.

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We're getting really close to the holiday season. We are

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going to have ample opportunity to talk about the holidays

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because I'm telling you, there is a lot to talk about,

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and it starts, it starts around the corner, it starts

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end of October with Halloween. We have a lot to

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talk about. I'm not going to you now, and I'm

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not gonna I know that we're as you're gonna forget

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anything I tell you anyway, So I'm gonna wait till

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we get a little closer. But we're gonna have a

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lot to talk about between Halloween, Thanksgiving, and of course

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Hanukha and Christmas and New Year's so we're gonna get

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you very, very well prepared for that time of year.

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Just on a side note, I have been doing a

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lot of stuff. I'm gonna be shooting a segment hopefully

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sooners and later for Inside Edition. One of the things

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I do a lot in my practice is plastic surgery,

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and for some reason that's just caught the interest of

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a lot of the TV shows. I'm doing a segment

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on some life saving tips for your pets on our

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local ABC affiliate here in Los Angeles, KBC seven. We're

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shooting that tomorrow and then for CBS K cal I'm

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doing a segment on plastic surgery, and then we're also

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trying to put together a national piece. I'm gonna go

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to New York in the early October to do a

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show all about plastic surgery as well as inside Edition,

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and said Edition might come in and film one or

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two of the procedures that I'll be doing.

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Speaker 3: But I have a really cool and coming up.

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Speaker 2: And any of you that have spaniels, especially cocker spaniels,

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you know that you are somewhat the slave to their

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ears because cockers have terrible ear problems. Well, when these

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ear problems go unchecked for too long, we start seeing

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permanent damage to the ear canal. If we can catch

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that damage fairly early where we're noticing changes but they

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haven't extended all the way down into the very short

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horizontal canal, we can actually remove the vertical ear canal.

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We call it a vertical ear canal ablation, where we

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take away the vertical portion of the ear canal, leaving

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just the short horizontal portion. And that's in essence, what

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we do is we take the canine ear and turn

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it into a human ear. Now our ears have an

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ear lobe. And then obviously the opening to the canal,

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and it's a fairly short horizontal canal goes straight in,

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which is why, of course, I'm sure even told the

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doctors don't like you taking Q tips to your ears

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because you actually can cause some damage if you're not careful.

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Dogs have a much different ear canal. They have a

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fairly relatively long vertical canal that then makes it turn

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insight into the head into the short horizontal canal and

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ultimately into what we call the tympanum, which is the

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ear drama. When that vertical canal starts getting thickened, lose

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its elasticity, prone to infection and inflammation. Too often, it

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is very uncomfortable for dogs, and so we often go

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ahead and we can remove the vertical canal, which is

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what I'll be doing on a cocker span on next week.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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then the disease is going to progress to the entire canal,

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and then the treatment of choice is what's called a TIKA,

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a total ear canal ablation. And unfortunately, with this surgery,

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most dogs are left totally hearing impaired or death because

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we've taken away their entire ear canal, et cetera. And

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this is really really a tough surgery on them. And

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though you know, I've heard many story that dogs that

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have had tikas, when their hair is now covered over

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that portion of the body that used to have the

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ear canal, that sometimes acts as some sort of a

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vibrating membrane if you will. Obviously not as sensitive as

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the very thin ear drum, but it does an amazing

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job in transmitting the vibrations to stimulate the nerves that

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convert the vibrations into sound in the brain. And there

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are owners that have sworn to me that even after

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a total ear canaliblation, their pets can still hear loud sounds,

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big vibrations, high streak pitches, etc. Whistles, So I think

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it's pretty amazing. But if you have these dogs that

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are having ch chronic ear problems, very important to get

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to them sooner than later. Try to just do some

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really great routine care at home to avoid any surgery,

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and we have some great pro sense products for that.

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We have a great ear cleaner, for example. But if

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you miss that boat, or if the problem is really

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bad at the very least, try to get to your

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veterinarian to have that surgery done before it becomes a

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total canal ablation, and you want to take care of

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it when it's just a vertical ear canal ablation. And

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that's what we call a VIKA vertical ear canal ablation.

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And I know that don't think this only happens in cockers.

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I mean I have, as many of you know by

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now by listening in. I have five dogs at home.

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Three of them are labradors. One is actually a laborate

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doodle because he's mixed with a standard poodle, but he's

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got the ear issues. And my two labradors, which love

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to swim there, I'm continually battling their ears. And the doodle,

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by the way, has one added problem that makes ear

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care very challenging, and that is the hair that grows

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inside the ear in the canal, and that too creates

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a problem. So we're continually cleaning those ears, plucking the

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hair out of the ears, et cetera. So we need

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to make sure that these are things that don't create

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problems for you. So you've got a lot today. You

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got the traveling with your pets, how to get them

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to acclimate to cars, to planes, the importance of planning

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the importance of identification. And if I didn't mention, I'll

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mention again that anytime you're traveling with a pet, be

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it plane, be it air, your pets to have this anyway,

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but especially when you're traveling ID in the form of

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a microchip and in the form of an ID tag,

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and many many veteranarians who also can give your clients

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little cards looks like a little business, a credit card

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that has a number with all of your pets information

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on it, so in case the pet is lost or

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you go someplace and they want to know when your

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pet's last vaccines, where you could pull out this card

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and have all the information or at least very quick

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access to your veterinarians phone number and get the information.

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And then of course we talked about the reconstructive surgery

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that I'll be doing soon, and I will let you

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know if you want to follow me on Twitter, which

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is at doctor Werber, or on my Facebook page look

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for doctor Jeff Werber, and I will be able to

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give you a lot of information about where I'm going

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to be, where you can see me, and which shows

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you can watch to find a lot of information that

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hopefully you will find very helpful as well. So it's

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about that time to go. I want to thank you

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for joining me here on Askdebat with Doctor Jeff on

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pet Life Radio. I am your host, Doctor Jeff Weber.

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I want to thank my sponsors prost Sends, pet Products, Walmart,

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and we will be here next week on Thursday at

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one pm Pacific Standard time or daylight time and four

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o'clock Eastern time.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining me.

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