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Speaker 4: Doing great?
Speaker 1: Ben? How are you living the dream? Just talking ball today.
Speaker 3: It's a great day to talk some college football, but
it's also a great day to talk.
Speaker 1: Some legal and sports drama.
Speaker 3: Let's start off with a topic that we've approached a
few times right now over the last you know, a
couple of weeks and over the last couple of months.
A little update on Michael Jordan's team getting a major
pre trial win and an anti trust case against NASCAR.
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And as we've so, just a quick little recap
on this. I mean, this is a case that Michael
Jordan's got a NASCAR team he and Denny Hamlin have
as another one, and these two teams, NASCAR hands out
these charters and you've got to have a charter if
you're going to compete on the NASCAR circuit, and uh,
there was a kind of a standoff last year and
Jordan's team said and Denny Hamlin said, well, we're not
going to you know, we're not going to sign this charter.
You know, we we don't think it's a good deal
and held out. And so some litigation has ensued, and
essentially this is an anti trust case and and more
or less, the argument is is that NASCAR is monopoly
over stock car racing and the way they hand out
these charters to teams is anti competitive and it and
it hurts the teams in competition. And because NASCAR is
the only game in town, if you want to you
want to race stock cars at the highest level. And
so what's happened now The case is heading to trial.
There's a trial date scheduled in December. But this is
a summary judgment ruling, and and the judge has come
in and basically decided that yeah, NASCAR car does have
the controlling interest over stock car racing. They essentially have
this monopoly. NASCAR tried to say, well, no, we don't, don't.
We don't control all of racing, you know, we don't
control you know, F one or IndyCar racing, and of
course they don't. That's not really what's the issue here.
It's it's stock car racing, which is all NASCAR. I
think everybody knows that. So that's the one issue that
the judge has kind of gotten out of the way.
It's called summary judgment, and what that does is just
narrow some issues for trial, so that now the focus
is just going to be on Okay, we know NASCAR
has got this you know, monopoly, but is are they
engaging and anti competitive practices that harm the teams in NASCAR?
So that'll be the question again we're heading to trial,
So it's something I'm sure we'll talk about in the future.
Speaker 3: Here crazy times in NASCAR, let's discuss an appeal on
the House Settlement arguing that it violates Title nine protocol.
Speaker 1: What's up with this one?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think everybody probably knows about the House Settlement,
the huge two point six billion dollars settlement that took
a few years to really get get approved, but it
finally it finally did, and this is going to you know,
provide all of this revenue sharing for schools and athletes.
But one of the roadblocks in getting a settlement in
place came from they call them objectors, these student athlete
objectors who who came in and testified, and you know,
a lot of their arguments were that, hey, this violates
Title nine, violates Title nine, and the judge, you know,
issued the judge of the lower court issued some different
different rulings and ultimately under the standard found that it
was that the settlement was fair, reasonable and adequate. So
again it looked like not everybody is happy with it,
but not all student athletes. I mean, but the settlement
got approved and was moving forward. But this appeal comes
from some certain division one like you know, rowing, volleyball,
swim and dive athletes who want to reverse this settlement.
I mean, that's what their appeal would do. If it
was granted, it would it would it would reverse this
whole thing. And I mean, just as a statistic that
they throw out there, I mean, ninety percent of the
money of this two point six billion is really going
to go to football and men's basketball and so Title
nine as people probably understand, but it's you know, it's
a federal law which prohibits sex based discrimination and education
programs that get federal funding. And so again it's been
applied in sports. But one of the questions that really
is going to come up, I think before the Appeals
Court is whether or not Title nine applies to revenue sharing.
I mean, when Title nine was passed, nobody was thinking
about this right, that this would be the current state
of college sports with NIL and that sort of thing.
So case are some new issues for the court to
take up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was interesting like when even when n I
L was essentially approved and it became proper uh and
and the NCAA couldn't limit name, image and likeness earnings,
there was there was a built bar deal at b
YU that that went under a little bit of scrutiny
because you had a donor pay for essentially the cost
of tuition for some strudent student athletes that were walk on.
Speaker 1: And it was a very good, feel good story.
Speaker 3: And prior to this, I had discussed on my show,
I'm like, look like one way to circumvent Title nine
is essentially through n I L.
Speaker 1: And it's we.
Speaker 3: Saw that I think b YU was investigating in fact,
and there was no wrongdoing uh that that that came
about from it. No, you know, castigation, no sort of
punishment that was inflicted upon b Yu for for this
particular situation. But I was like, well, the people that
want to stay true to Title nine, Uh, they may
be a little they may have their feathers ruffled a
little bit and get up in arms about this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they they may. But again, I mean I think
you know, for me, the judge at the that approved
this settlement, she she heard a couple of issues on this. Again,
I mean, it was considered right, this title nine question,
and so I you know, uh, maybe there maybe we'll
see Toddle nine litigation once the money gets distributed, right,
I mean, if if b Yu gives I mean, let's
just one hundred percent of the money, right the men's
sports and totally cuts women out of it. Right, I
think you could, you know, b why you would face
some claims or something like that. Again just as a hypothetical,
so we could see these claims sort of downstream in
the future, you know, where a student athlete wants to
bring their own claim and this may not be the
right time for the appeal, but I'm sure we'll yeah,
well we'll kind of see how it how it develops.
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Speaker 1: Uh and uh.
Speaker 3: Unjustly in an unruly fashion. So let's get back into
the sports court here. James Carville threatens to his own
LSU and pursued legal action AFT against Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is kind of funny if you remember James Carville.
I mean, this guy's been around forever. He might have
been an advisor to Bill Clinton. I mean goes way back, right,
I mean, but a political pundit. He's on all the
cable TV news talking about, you know, politics and things
like that. But the other thing about James Carvill is
he's a big LSU fan and so he's now inserted
himself into this controversy and discussion over Brian Kellery, Brian
Kelly's firing it at LSU. And what ended up happening
is that, of course this the governor in Louisiana. And
just make a note, LSU does not have a president
at their university at the moment, and so I think
that's part of the reason we're seeing the governor step
in because this is a state institution. And so, you know,
Governor Landry holds a press conference and announces that the
then athletic director Woodward, that he wasn't going to take
part in the search for Kelly's replacement, and then also
discussion about the fact that you know, Brian Kelly's huge
buyout was going to be taxpayer dollars and that they
were going to make sure the next coach at hired
wouldn't have such a favorable buyout. Well, obviously that can
affect the recruiting of the next coach and getting getting
the right coach that that LSU wants. So you got
a big fan like James Carville, who's got a soapbox,
and he got in and he said that he's going
to burn all of his LSU ge gear, his diplomas,
his daughter's diplomas, and he says he's he's retained a
law firm and he wants to bring a libel case,
defamation case. Agains Governor Landry the way that he handled
this because because he thinks that that the governor's statements
have harmed the the the athletic program at LSU He says,
this reputational damage that's been done to our university, it's incalculable,
and so he's going to bring this case. It seems
like a long shot, Ben, you know, something for a fan,
like I said, with a with a microphone to to
talk about and kind of beat their chest. But I
thought it was kind of an interesting one.
Speaker 1: Crazy man.
Speaker 3: Well, I think there's probably from a public relations standpoint
that's impactful. I wonder just how impactful the incalculable damage
that has been imposed on the university really is. How
about some Mavericks and Stars arena feud heading to court.
The trial date has been set. Give us some details
on this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is kind of interesting where you've got, you know,
the Mavericks and the Stars. They share an arena, the
American Athletics Center in Dallas, which is is an arena
that's owned is owned by the city, and they've shared
it since two thousand and one under a joint operating agreement.
And then so they set up a company called the
Center Operating Company that you know, so both teams are
you know, kind of joint operators under this agreement to
operate the arena. And so a dispute has arisen between them,
and the MAVs have come in said that the Stars
have breached this contract and they they want to take
over the operation of the Center operating company. So that
would give them all the authority to you know, run
the schedule how they want, right for games and different
events and things like that, and the Stars would really
have to take it back eat. One of the things
they've alleged is that the Stars breached the contract by
moving their headquarters outside of Dallas. Apparently that's you know,
in the contract. So, I mean, it's interesting because you've
got these two teams who essentially, you know, I mean,
they share a house right right, and they have for
g's almost twenty five years, and now that's kind of
falling apart. I mean, we've you know, you you see
these sorts of shared arrangements all over the place. I mean,
right here in town, we've got the Jazz and the
Mammoths sharing the Delta Center. But the difference there is
we've got joint ownership shared ownership, right, I mean, you've
got Ryan Smith Group owning both teams, and so that's
usually a better situation for sharing the same arena because
they've got joint you know, shared ownership, but the Mouths
and Stars don't have that, so they're they're at odds.
Speaker 3: At odds, you know, these sports court you know situations.
Speaker 1: I mean one's odds. It seems final thing your update.
Speaker 3: Former NBA player Damon Jones has been arraigned and plead's
not guilty into gambling probes.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And if you remember Damon Jones, he's he's one of
the guys that's named in both cases. And so the
two cases that we have, of course, is we have
the you know, the sports betting case, and that's the
one with Terry Rozier and and you know, giving inside
information to affect sports betting. The other case is the
rigged high stakes poker games. That's the one, you know,
the case with Chauncey Billups that the mafia was backing
up and all of that. But Damon Jones, former NBA player,
he's he's indicted in both cases, the defendant in both cases.
And so he was arigned pled not guilty. And I
don't think that's probably too big of a surprise. But
what jumped out to me, I mean, he's posted upon
two hundred thousand dollars using his parents' home, you know,
to secure that. He's also been appointed basically a federal
public defender to represent him. So and I hadn't seen,
you know, a report on this, whether his assets had
been frozen or whether we should just readb between the
lines that he didn't make a lot of money playing
poker and rigging sports betting. So there you go. Something again.
We'll be following closely.
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Speaker 3: So who's more natural in that scenario of like reading lines,
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Speaker 8: I think it's more pack because Pat's done more of
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get out to the hotline.
Speaker 3: Welcome in the voice of the Cougars on the BYU
Sports Network. We got Greg Rebel on the line. G Unit,
how that are you, buddy?
Speaker 5: Good?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 5: How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing awesome? I'm excited.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: This is a.
Speaker 3: New era of BYU football, new era of BYU athletics,
and it's just great to experience it. Like the glory
days of the eighties and the nineties, the post Leavell
inception of BYU football was amazing, right, and now we're
experiencing something that is maybe akin to the glory days
of BYU football. You probably can can speak to it
better than I can. What do you think about you
know when you take in the last five years and
what Colonie's accomplished in creating a championship program now a
part of a power for structure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what was done in the past was outstanding, but
it wasn't done at the level that it's being done currently.
Because of BYU status as a Big twelve member b
YU never had to face the kind of schedule with
the Cougars are seeing year in, year out now, So
we saw great results. We saw a lot of wins,
we saw an undefeated season, we saw a national championship,
but we saw it in a different set of circumstances.
And what By's being asked to do now is exponentially
more difficult than anything it was asked to do in
the seventies or the eighties or the nineties. This is
big time football, and BYU's had to make a lot
of changes to get to this level. And they've made
those changes successfully and got those opportunities. And now you're
seeing BYU competing with the very biggest names in the
game week in week out. And so when By's being
you know, what he's doing right now, Uh, it's kind
of unprecedented. We don't want to, we don't want to,
you know, make too many pronouncements before the season is over,
because there's fource off games to play here in the
regular season, maybe more to go before a bowl game.
But yeah, it's it's pretty special what's happening right now,
and and the KuPS are on the verge of doing
something truly unprecedented if they can win three games here
in November.
Speaker 3: There's been much that has been improved upon over the years.
Within the athletic department. You know, there's not any one
thing they can point to necessarily and maybe and say, look,
this is the reason why buy is great right now?
Uh and and they do truly have a great culture.
The hole is greater than the sum of its parts.
Everyone kind of lifting where they where they stand within
the athletic department, whether it's marketing, whether it's on the
recruiting side of things, the academic side of things. When
you look at the organizational design as is and what's
being accomplished, you know what what what you look at
and say, hey, this is you know, maybe sequentially most
important to least important. I know there's a lot to
take in, but what are some of the big impact
moves that b Y's athletic department have made do you
think in order to put their their programs at the
forefront of the world right now, the forefront of college athletics.
Speaker 5: Well, I think the most important one was the hiring
of Klane Sea. Talking when it comes to what we're
seeing right now, I think it all starts from there.
I think all of all of the mechanics and logistics
of NIL and resources and and and and you know,
Booster contributions and everything else, b Y He's done to
stay competitive is super important. But I think, you know,
maybe the most important thing they did was what was
get the right man in the head job. And so
I kind of start there, love.
Speaker 3: That we're getting prep getting ready for the BYU Texas
Tech matchup. Some have whispered in my ear, this is
the biggest game in b YU football history. I'm like,
I'm not going there, but it is definitely the next game,
and it is a massive game, a top ten showdown
two top ten teams. Obviously, this has never happened before
in BWAU football history. When you look at it, what
makes it so big, what makes it so grandiose? And
how impactful could a win in Lubbock b for the coops.
Speaker 5: Well, we could start with the fact that boy has
never been a top ten team taking on a top
ten team, and it's football history. So you can really
kind of start and end there. Ben. Once you get
to November and you have a number next to your name,
it's pretty well earned. All the preseason biases have gone
by the wayside. We know through two months of football
who these teams are and so for it to be
the first ever top ten versus top ten in the
history of this program kind of tells you all you
need to know. And then when you add to it
the CFP rankings and what they all mean, and the
fact that there is so much on the line in
this new twelve team bracket. I mean, you're not too
far afield and it's not too much of a stretch
to call this the biggest football game in bya football history.
And the thing is win or lose. Next week will
probably have the same label attached to it, and then
the week after that until you get to the end
of this regular season. So that's all you can want
is to be playing these kinds of games in November.
And you could argue the playoffs already started for BYU,
it's going to feel like playoff football. The positive thing
for BYU is win or lose on Saturday. They're still
in the hunt.
Speaker 3: It's imperative for the football program itself, the football players.
Football go is to take one game out at a time.
It's us as media, maybe fans, donors, et cetera. They
begin to project best case scenario, worst case scenarios. Have
you run your analytics, have you looked at all the
potential tie breakers, What could happen, what will potentially happen
if BYU wins or loses certain games? You where, where
does your mind wander in this process?
Speaker 5: Well, I don't want to get too bogged down and
clog my brain with too much stuff. It's already got
enough craziness in there already, So I'm trying to keep
it simple. I mean meaning, I'm not going to any
of the two I'm not going to any of the
two loss ty breakers right now because there's just too
many of them. Bottom line is three and one or
four and oh and you're playing in the Big twelve
Championship game, and three and one or four and oh
and I think you're in the playoff. I think you
can run most of the percentages and you can come
up with a similar result that it's that win or
lose against Texas Tech. If the Coops go three and
one or four and oh be three and one with
a loss, of course they're they're going to be in
the playoff. I don't think you can keep a BYU
team out with two losses if the second loss comes
in the Big twelve Championship game.
Speaker 3: Greg Ribell here on esp and the fan, Greg, As
you've done your scattering report on the Red Raiders, what
has stuck out to you from an analytics standpoint, personnel standpoint,
schematic standpoint.
Speaker 5: Well personnel standpoint. You know, Jacob Rodriguez is a pretty
special player. He has thirteen career fumbles forced beat is
the ultimate disruptor at linebacker. Those defensive ends are projected
NFL draft picks for a lot of good reasons. The
numbers David Bailey is putting up are ridiculous eleven and
a half sacks. His counterpart at the other ran Romelo Height,
has six sacks. They're they're a top ten team in
total offense, total defense, scoring offense, scoring defense. I mean
they're they're as well rounded a team as you're going
to see in college football. And they and they kill
you from the get go. I mean, they're the only
team in the country with with eight wins by twenty
three points or more. When they win, they win big.
They do have a loss, but when they win they
win big, and they start early. They're crushing teams in
the first quarter, and that's been By's most problematic quarter defensively.
I think the first fourter is huge, man, It's not
the whole ballgame, but I think the first fifteen minutes
will tell us more than a half of what we
need to know about the game on Saturday. And that's
said knowing that By's and greated coming back from early
deficits lately, can you do it against Texas Tech which
is kind of running people over right now? I mean,
the first quarter scoring gap is crazy for Texas Tech
right now, and although BA doesn't struggle mightily, that that's
the quarter they've allowed the most points in. So I
do want to see how these teams start, because we
do know that when the Cougars get off to a
good start, they're tough to beat. Thirty five consecutive wins
now for BYU when they just score first. Now, they
didn't score first in Ames and still found a way
to come back and win that game, so it's not
the be all and end all, But when they do
score first, it's usually put into a pretty good indicator
that day is where it needs to be.
Speaker 3: Now, I've been listening to you for over twenty years now, Greg,
and you've always pulled up that status starting fast and
how critical it is in BYU football history, and so
I asked you this question, knowing that it's like, how
is it that BYU now could in multiple games this
season has found a way to win being down early,
you know Colorado game that was kind of we were
all taken taken back a gas that what was happening
with Caden Salter and then the Iowa State game.
Speaker 1: Uh, the way you found a way to win? How
are they doing that.
Speaker 5: Well? Because they are a resilient group. And that's the
great thing when you when you can combine a team
that that succeeds when starting fast with a team that's
never out of it, you got yourself a really good
football team. They're they're they're winning when when trailing after half,
or they're winning when trailing after three quarters. They're just
finding ways to win. And I think there's kind of
a narrative out there right now that that b YU
doesn't control its games well enough that that there are
flashier teams in Texas Tech being one of them, that
when they win, they just win, you know, going away
crushing people. But the fact is ba's not lost the
game yet. So regardless of how you win, whether it's
from in front or coming from behind, if you're eight, no,
you deserve more credit than the team that has one
or two losses. Just straight up, I don't care if
the team with one or two losses blows people out,
whin they win, They've also lost games. And the teams
that are blowing people out, some of those teams have
lost to BYU. Okay, they haven't done it against BUYU,
and the Cups haven't lost a game yet. So until
they lose a game, I don't want to hear about
game control and how well you control a game because
all that matters is that you have more points than
the other team when that game comes to an m
and that's been BYU eight times in eight games. So yeah,
there's a belief about this team right now, Ben that
you know, give us any kind of scenario, we can
find a way to get it done. And we haven't
even mentioned the name Bear Bachmeyer yet. I think he's
a pretty good embodiment of what this team is about.
How many times have we seen this year when there's
a line to gain or a goal line to be crossed,
that Bear says them, It's going to get there, no
matter what it takes or how many guys I take
with me. And that's a great thing to have from
your from your quarterback.
Speaker 3: I know you're a man of metrics, and since you
brought up you know some of these ways in which
Bay's been winning. And I do want to get to
Bear Bachmeyer and for you to elaborate and pontificate on
his his abilities. It's been really fun to watch. He's
overachieved the expectation for every one of us. But one
of the differentiating metrics that I've looked at in this
game and also the Utah game, and I think even
the Iowa State game, BYU's special teams unit per ESPNSP
plus metric is sixth in the country.
Speaker 1: Tech in special teams tech is eightieth.
Speaker 3: And I feel like since K pop came around and
look ed LAMB was really good too with special teams.
But since K Pop came around, I've never seen as
many touchdowns scored via special teams. I've never seen as
many turnovers created, or the flipping of the field, pinning
of an opponent.
Speaker 1: Within their ten yard line. It's been remarkable to watch.
Speaker 3: And I think, I don't know, I don't know how
heavily weighted some of these some of these algorithms are
two special teams as one of the three facets of
complimentary football.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 5: Texas Tech coming into the week was second nationally in
average starting field position on offense, meaning they give their
team the second fewest yards to have to go to
score a touchdown. So field position and special teams are
a massive part of what Texas Tech has been doing.
And when it comes to where they force teams defensively,
they're twenty first nationally. They're in defensive average starting field position.
So what Texas Tech is doing via special teams, but
not only special teams, is forcing teams to go a
long way and giving themselves a shorter way to go
by's no slouts though in both those categories the crews
are top twenty five as well. So I think field
position is one of the areas we can really look
to to say, whoever has the edge there might have
the edge in this game. I'm fairly confident that BYU
believe if they could take that average starting field position
of the about thirty six yard line for Texas Tech
and make it make it closer to the twenty six
yard line, YA is going to feel it has a
pretty good chance to win. In the Kalani Citake Era,
EYU is plus an average starting field position. All right,
they are sixty five and ten, sixty five and ten,
you just give them the better starting field position, and
it's you know, you've given DYU a pretty good crack
at a victory. And then you talk about, you know,
points scored on defense and special teams. When when a
touchdown scored by defensive our special teams player under colomby
BYU's nineteen and four, when that happens and they won
nine straight games in that scenario as well. So I
think special teams is a great place to go. And
the reason I like average starting field position. We've talked
about this is it's not just a special team stat
because offense and defense bowls contribute to that, to that
average starting field position number. So I think, to me ASFP,
average running field position is the embodiment of the phrase
complementary football.
Speaker 1: Greg.
Speaker 3: I've been evaluating you know, quarterback play over the last
five years and comparing it to what Bear Bachmeyer is
doing right now, and it's honestly impressive efficiency wise, what
he's been able to produce, not coughing up the football,
making good decisions with that football, being able to run
the football with efficiency and power and and scoring the football.
Speaker 1: Recently.
Speaker 3: I compared to contrast, even Jake Retzlaff over at Tulane,
and I know the supporting cast are different, coaches is
different and stuff like that, but bear Bachmeyer has completely
overachieved statistically from a leadership standpoint, from a you know,
even his interactions with media, I'll be a the you know,
short intermit, like his stoicism and his calm, cool, collected demeanor.
He fits like perfectly. If A Rod was to create
a like a genetically enhanced quarterback personality wise, you know, biochemistry,
et cetera, physical physically wise, like, it would be bear Bachmar.
It's like the perfect fit for the A Rod offense.
Could you maybe elaborate on that perfect fit?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we're going to look back at at
how bear Backmeyer went from Stanford to b YU as
one of the great transactions in in Cougar football history.
How this happened, why it happened, How how fortunate by
you got with everything that came after that. I mean,
it's it's crazy to think about where b YU might
have been as opposed to where they are right now,
and thanks almost only to one guy, bear Bachmeyer. You're
right about he's what you want. You want your guy
to be, you know, cool, you know, composed, you use
the word stoic all you know, that's great to have
that that guy off the field the way he is,
and he's this, and then yet that same guy on
the field becomes an absolute animal, right he He he
is an absolute man, possessed when it's when it with
the ball in his hands and an objective in mind.
And that's exactly what you want. He's the smart guy,
the calm guy, the cool guy to assess and synthesize
and read and call and change and do all the
things a quarterback has to do. But then when it
comes time to secure a football and find a yard line,
he will not be denied. And when it's time to
square the shoulders on the run and throw a laser,
you know, over a defender in front of a defender,
into the arms of your waiting receiver and do it accurately,
he's been that guy too.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: Yes, he's a freshman and he doesn't doesn't make every
play because he's only a freshman, But most of the
plays he's been asked to make, he's been able to
come through in flying colors and I just think it's
the story of the year for BYU, one of the
stories in college football what Bear Bachmeyer's been able to
do with that position.
Speaker 3: College game Day last visited Lubbock in two thousand and
eight when Texas Tech took on Texas That was the
Michael Krabtree. Last time by you got a visit from
from game Day in Provo was the TCU game, I
believe in two thousand and nine, And it made me
think that, like, these two teams are on the same,
maybe similar trajectory, and I wonder if these will be
possibly the new brand ambassadors for the Big twelve. We've
often talked about this as media members at least talking heads,
the radio heads right out here though, just the shock
jocks of the world, and I'm like, man, it kind
of feels like these two teams could be the brand
ambassador's moving forward because of their organization, will design the
culture that the men that are leading their respective programs.
Speaker 5: Well, it's been pretty well documented, you know, the pipeline
no pun intended, or maybe pun absolutely intended that that
Texas Tech has to its program right now through the
oil industry and the boosters they have right now in
that program, and I don't think Boy is going to
be suffering for re sources anytime soon either. So yeah,
I don't see why these two why these couldn't be
two kind of flagship programs for the conference moving forward.
We've seen just how quickly things can go south though,
right for traditional powers. Let's talk about Oklahoma State. The
first year BYU was in the league. That was kind
of a team expected to carry the banner from Texas
and Oklahoma moving forward, and they absolutely disappeared. And so
you have to be able to do it the new way,
and Oklahoma State was slow to adapt and slow to adopt,
and b YU and Texas Tech were not. And that's
why we see those teams where they are.
Speaker 3: Love it, Greg, real quick scattering report on Texas Tech.
How do you see this game maybe playing out and
knowing that our team's pretty healthy all things considered, and
coming off of bye week, they should be well prepared,
well rested, healthy and strong to get out there and
ball out and love it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think the national stats just telling
you what you need to know about Texas. They're as
well rounded team as there is in college football right now.
Barren Moore is a starter again, Let's see how he
does with that role. He's been really good with that
role historically. You know, Baron Morton, when he can start
a game and stay in the game that that is,
not leave injured, he's good given himself, giving his team
a real good chance to win football games. He's twenty
one and nine in thirty career starts, and since twenty
twenty three, when B one he joined the league, he's
nineteen or the team is nineteen and four where he
starts and doesn't lead the game injured. Now, he did
not play in the game at BYU back in twenty
twenty three, let's remember that. But you know, he's kind
of he's like Rockabeck and any number of other quarterbacks.
What he's seen in this Big twelve. It's a good
quarterback league, and he's the guy that makes it go.
And although the backup played well while Morton was hurt,
I think Baron being back is certainly positive news for
Texas Tech. And I think, you know, the way the
backup played made people kind of forget a little bit
about how good Baron was. But he's still a really
good quarterback. I just you know, I don't know, I don't.
I don't know the BYU scores, you know, uppards of
forty in this game, like they did at Iowa State.
But it doesn't matter necessarily to me what the point
total is in this game. Texas Tech is good enough
detensively that you may not score a big number, but
by you should expect to score some points, you know,
not not not be brought down entirely to where they're
you know, hopeless and punchless, like like Texas Tech has
done to every other team they've seen this year, with
the exception of one being as you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not a gambling man, but I always look
at the spread, and I look at the total, right
fifty two and a half and and Boa has been
covering as an underdog, and they've many times overachieved in
the point total when the prognosticators say that it's going
to be lower than than they think.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So, Greg, I always appreciate our time together. Best way
to support you what you guys do and how you
do it. Love listening to your calls, whether it's live
or I get to go back and listen to it.
If I wasn't able to get all all of the
nuggets from your broadcast.
Speaker 5: Thanks Ben, And one quick note about this game. As
good as Texas Tech is, we've said a lot of
good things about them. They're heavily penalized team and they
give the ball away pretty frequently, all right, And those
are the two things that will kill you in any
close game, right, do you hurt yourself? And the takeaway number?
And dy has been really, really good with ball security.
It's the one area where Texas has been a little
bit loose. Now they do have twenty takeaways to compensate,
but they've given it away pretty frequently. And so I
want to watch three key numbers. We talked about average
starting fuel position, who's got the edge? There is Texas
Tech killing ITSELFIA penalties, and can DYU finished positive in
the turnover margin? Let's watch those on Saturdays.
Speaker 1: Greg, we salute you, we appreciate you.
Speaker 3: You do the best work in the business as a
play by play voice, and you've got a great crew
surrounding you with hands and Pits and Mitchell and the
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Speaker 1: Ralph Sofilowski.
Speaker 3: You've created an all star cast for an all star
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Speaker 1: Great job. Thanks joining us today to give us some insight.
Speaker 5: Ben you're very kind, Thanks for the invite and going
to be with you as always.
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