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Speaker 1: Ben? How are you living the dream? Just talking ball today.

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Speaker 3: It's a great day to talk some college football, but

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Speaker 1: Some legal and sports drama.

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Speaker 3: Let's start off with a topic that we've approached a

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A little update on Michael Jordan's team getting a major

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pre trial win and an anti trust case against NASCAR.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And as we've so, just a quick little recap

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these charters and you've got to have a charter if

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you're going to compete on the NASCAR circuit, and uh,

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there was a kind of a standoff last year and

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Jordan's team said and Denny Hamlin said, well, we're not

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and held out. And so some litigation has ensued, and

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essentially this is an anti trust case and and more

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or less, the argument is is that NASCAR is monopoly

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over stock car racing and the way they hand out

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these charters to teams is anti competitive and it and

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it hurts the teams in competition. And because NASCAR is

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the only game in town, if you want to you

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want to race stock cars at the highest level. And

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so what's happened now The case is heading to trial.

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a summary judgment ruling, and and the judge has come

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in and basically decided that yeah, NASCAR car does have

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the controlling interest over stock car racing. They essentially have

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this monopoly. NASCAR tried to say, well, no, we don't, don't.

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the judge has kind of gotten out of the way.

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has got this you know, monopoly, but is are they

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engaging and anti competitive practices that harm the teams in NASCAR?

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Speaker 3: Here crazy times in NASCAR, let's discuss an appeal on

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the House Settlement arguing that it violates Title nine protocol.

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Speaker 1: What's up with this one?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think everybody probably knows about the House Settlement,

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the huge two point six billion dollars settlement that took

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provide all of this revenue sharing for schools and athletes.

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swim and dive athletes who want to reverse this settlement.

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programs that get federal funding. And so again it's been

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Speaker 1: And it was a very good, feel good story.

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Speaker 3: And prior to this, I had discussed on my show,

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punishment that was inflicted upon b Yu for for this

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sports and totally cuts women out of it. Right, I

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the future, you know, where a student athlete wants to

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Speaker 3: Talking a little sports court with handy and handy handy

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Speaker 1: Uh and uh.

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Speaker 3: Unjustly in an unruly fashion. So let's get back into

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the sports court here. James Carville threatens to his own

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LSU and pursued legal action AFT against Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is kind of funny if you remember James Carville.

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I mean, but a political pundit. He's on all the

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cable TV news talking about, you know, politics and things

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himself into this controversy and discussion over Brian Kellery, Brian

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then athletic director Woodward, that he wasn't going to take

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part in the search for Kelly's replacement, and then also

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discussion about the fact that you know, Brian Kelly's huge

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buyout was going to be taxpayer dollars and that they

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affect the recruiting of the next coach and getting getting

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defamation case. Agains Governor Landry the way that he handled

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this reputational damage that's been done to our university, it's incalculable,

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and so he's going to bring this case. It seems

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Speaker 1: Crazy man.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think there's probably from a public relations standpoint

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that's impactful. I wonder just how impactful the incalculable damage

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is kind of interesting where you've got, you know,

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the Mavericks and the Stars. They share an arena, the

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the schedule how they want, right for games and different

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events and things like that, and the Stars would really

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falling apart. I mean, we've you know, you you see

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Speaker 3: At odds, you know, these sports court you know situations.

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Speaker 1: I mean one's odds. It seems final thing your update.

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Speaker 3: Former NBA player Damon Jones has been arraigned and plead's

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rigged high stakes poker games. That's the one, you know,

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's very obvious, Ben, the Chiefs have not

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been what the Chiefs normally are. And right now you

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know you just Andy Reid is five and four and

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Andy Reid could miss the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: They could miss the playoffs.

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Speaker 8: That's crazy to think about. I can't remember the last

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, So that's the negative.

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Speaker 1: Now let's get to the positive.

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Speaker 3: Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes come together in preparation for

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this BYU Texas Tech game to bring us together in harmonious,

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peaceful peacemaking bliss.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Cougars and.

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Speaker 3: Red Raiders coming together arm in arm, hand in hand,

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and showing each other love. Let's listen in as Andy

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Speaker 9: Coach, I hear your Cougars are headed to Lovey this

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week to take on my Red Raiders.

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Speaker 6: That's right, Patrick, It's gonna be a great one. But

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before kickoff, BAYU and Texas Tech fans are teaming up

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Speaker 9: That's awesome, coach. I love that both fan bases are

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: So who's more natural in that scenario of like reading lines,

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Speaker 8: I think it's more pack because Pat's done more of

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Speaker 10: But Andy's still natural. If you could definitely tell Pat's

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more natural. I think, Hey, it's a good cause. I

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Speaker 3: So if you're a part of the Alumni Association, get

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Speaker 1: So what other Cougars of the Pros.

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of one of the greatest Cougars is that. And Pooko

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if everybody got a chance to see it.

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Speaker 1: But Poogle look good.

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Speaker 8: And I'm waiting for Zach Wilson get a chance in

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Speaker 3: I don't know if Zach can be the savior of

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Because of BYU status as a Big twelve member b

473
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,720
YU never had to face the kind of schedule with

474
00:24:21,759 --> 00:24:23,880
the Cougars are seeing year in, year out now, So

475
00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:26,599
we saw great results. We saw a lot of wins,

476
00:24:26,599 --> 00:24:29,319
we saw an undefeated season, we saw a national championship,

477
00:24:29,599 --> 00:24:33,359
but we saw it in a different set of circumstances.

478
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,599
And what By's being asked to do now is exponentially

479
00:24:37,599 --> 00:24:40,079
more difficult than anything it was asked to do in

480
00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:43,960
the seventies or the eighties or the nineties. This is

481
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,559
big time football, and BYU's had to make a lot

482
00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:50,599
of changes to get to this level. And they've made

483
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,720
those changes successfully and got those opportunities. And now you're

484
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,240
seeing BYU competing with the very biggest names in the

485
00:24:57,279 --> 00:25:00,279
game week in week out. And so when By's being

486
00:25:00,519 --> 00:25:03,640
you know, what he's doing right now, Uh, it's kind

487
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,279
of unprecedented. We don't want to, we don't want to,

488
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,680
you know, make too many pronouncements before the season is over,

489
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,880
because there's fource off games to play here in the

490
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,640
regular season, maybe more to go before a bowl game.

491
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,519
But yeah, it's it's pretty special what's happening right now,

492
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,920
and and the KuPS are on the verge of doing

493
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,079
something truly unprecedented if they can win three games here

494
00:25:24,079 --> 00:25:24,640
in November.

495
00:25:26,079 --> 00:25:29,519
Speaker 3: There's been much that has been improved upon over the years.

496
00:25:29,559 --> 00:25:33,440
Within the athletic department. You know, there's not any one

497
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,799
thing they can point to necessarily and maybe and say, look,

498
00:25:35,799 --> 00:25:38,200
this is the reason why buy is great right now?

499
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,880
Uh and and they do truly have a great culture.

500
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,880
The hole is greater than the sum of its parts.

501
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,039
Everyone kind of lifting where they where they stand within

502
00:25:47,079 --> 00:25:50,759
the athletic department, whether it's marketing, whether it's on the

503
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:53,480
recruiting side of things, the academic side of things. When

504
00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:56,839
you look at the organizational design as is and what's

505
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,480
being accomplished, you know what what what you look at

506
00:26:00,519 --> 00:26:03,519
and say, hey, this is you know, maybe sequentially most

507
00:26:03,559 --> 00:26:05,319
important to least important. I know there's a lot to

508
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,319
take in, but what are some of the big impact

509
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,640
moves that b Y's athletic department have made do you

510
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,000
think in order to put their their programs at the

511
00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:17,079
forefront of the world right now, the forefront of college athletics.

512
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 5: Well, I think the most important one was the hiring

513
00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:24,160
of Klane Sea. Talking when it comes to what we're

514
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,000
seeing right now, I think it all starts from there.

515
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,559
I think all of all of the mechanics and logistics

516
00:26:31,599 --> 00:26:36,240
of NIL and resources and and and and you know,

517
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,759
Booster contributions and everything else, b Y He's done to

518
00:26:40,039 --> 00:26:44,000
stay competitive is super important. But I think, you know,

519
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,279
maybe the most important thing they did was what was

520
00:26:46,319 --> 00:26:49,359
get the right man in the head job. And so

521
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,839
I kind of start there, love.

522
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 3: That we're getting prep getting ready for the BYU Texas

523
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,039
Tech matchup. Some have whispered in my ear, this is

524
00:26:57,039 --> 00:26:59,240
the biggest game in b YU football history. I'm like,

525
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,400
I'm not going there, but it is definitely the next game,

526
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,799
and it is a massive game, a top ten showdown

527
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,519
two top ten teams. Obviously, this has never happened before

528
00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:11,640
in BWAU football history. When you look at it, what

529
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,079
makes it so big, what makes it so grandiose? And

530
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,519
how impactful could a win in Lubbock b for the coops.

531
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,079
Speaker 5: Well, we could start with the fact that boy has

532
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,880
never been a top ten team taking on a top

533
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,480
ten team, and it's football history. So you can really

534
00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:29,240
kind of start and end there. Ben. Once you get

535
00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:32,319
to November and you have a number next to your name,

536
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,079
it's pretty well earned. All the preseason biases have gone

537
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,279
by the wayside. We know through two months of football

538
00:27:38,279 --> 00:27:40,440
who these teams are and so for it to be

539
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,839
the first ever top ten versus top ten in the

540
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,200
history of this program kind of tells you all you

541
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,400
need to know. And then when you add to it

542
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,720
the CFP rankings and what they all mean, and the

543
00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:54,680
fact that there is so much on the line in

544
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,640
this new twelve team bracket. I mean, you're not too

545
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,400
far afield and it's not too much of a stretch

546
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,480
to call this the biggest football game in bya football history.

547
00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:06,400
And the thing is win or lose. Next week will

548
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,799
probably have the same label attached to it, and then

549
00:28:09,799 --> 00:28:11,640
the week after that until you get to the end

550
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,440
of this regular season. So that's all you can want

551
00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:16,559
is to be playing these kinds of games in November.

552
00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:18,960
And you could argue the playoffs already started for BYU,

553
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,680
it's going to feel like playoff football. The positive thing

554
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,279
for BYU is win or lose on Saturday. They're still

555
00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:25,680
in the hunt.

556
00:28:27,079 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 3: It's imperative for the football program itself, the football players.

557
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,960
Football go is to take one game out at a time.

558
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:36,920
It's us as media, maybe fans, donors, et cetera. They

559
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,759
begin to project best case scenario, worst case scenarios. Have

560
00:28:39,839 --> 00:28:42,119
you run your analytics, have you looked at all the

561
00:28:42,119 --> 00:28:46,880
potential tie breakers, What could happen, what will potentially happen

562
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,880
if BYU wins or loses certain games? You where, where

563
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,240
does your mind wander in this process?

564
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,559
Speaker 5: Well, I don't want to get too bogged down and

565
00:28:56,839 --> 00:28:58,839
clog my brain with too much stuff. It's already got

566
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,920
enough craziness in there already, So I'm trying to keep

567
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,759
it simple. I mean meaning, I'm not going to any

568
00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:05,240
of the two I'm not going to any of the

569
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,079
two loss ty breakers right now because there's just too

570
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:10,599
many of them. Bottom line is three and one or

571
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,160
four and oh and you're playing in the Big twelve

572
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,599
Championship game, and three and one or four and oh

573
00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:16,880
and I think you're in the playoff. I think you

574
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,960
can run most of the percentages and you can come

575
00:29:20,039 --> 00:29:22,359
up with a similar result that it's that win or

576
00:29:22,359 --> 00:29:26,079
lose against Texas Tech. If the Coops go three and

577
00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:28,400
one or four and oh be three and one with

578
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,359
a loss, of course they're they're going to be in

579
00:29:30,359 --> 00:29:32,279
the playoff. I don't think you can keep a BYU

580
00:29:32,319 --> 00:29:35,279
team out with two losses if the second loss comes

581
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:37,359
in the Big twelve Championship game.

582
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 3: Greg Ribell here on esp and the fan, Greg, As

583
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,119
you've done your scattering report on the Red Raiders, what

584
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,480
has stuck out to you from an analytics standpoint, personnel standpoint,

585
00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:49,880
schematic standpoint.

586
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 5: Well personnel standpoint. You know, Jacob Rodriguez is a pretty

587
00:29:54,960 --> 00:30:00,759
special player. He has thirteen career fumbles forced beat is

588
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:06,160
the ultimate disruptor at linebacker. Those defensive ends are projected

589
00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:08,680
NFL draft picks for a lot of good reasons. The

590
00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:12,160
numbers David Bailey is putting up are ridiculous eleven and

591
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,359
a half sacks. His counterpart at the other ran Romelo Height,

592
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:21,000
has six sacks. They're they're a top ten team in

593
00:30:21,079 --> 00:30:25,480
total offense, total defense, scoring offense, scoring defense. I mean

594
00:30:25,559 --> 00:30:28,160
they're they're as well rounded a team as you're going

595
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,359
to see in college football. And they and they kill

596
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,160
you from the get go. I mean, they're the only

597
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,799
team in the country with with eight wins by twenty

598
00:30:35,839 --> 00:30:37,960
three points or more. When they win, they win big.

599
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,160
They do have a loss, but when they win they

600
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,920
win big, and they start early. They're crushing teams in

601
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,319
the first quarter, and that's been By's most problematic quarter defensively.

602
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,319
I think the first fourter is huge, man, It's not

603
00:30:50,359 --> 00:30:52,920
the whole ballgame, but I think the first fifteen minutes

604
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,680
will tell us more than a half of what we

605
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,920
need to know about the game on Saturday. And that's

606
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,240
said knowing that By's and greated coming back from early

607
00:31:01,319 --> 00:31:04,039
deficits lately, can you do it against Texas Tech which

608
00:31:04,039 --> 00:31:07,000
is kind of running people over right now? I mean,

609
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,640
the first quarter scoring gap is crazy for Texas Tech

610
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,680
right now, and although BA doesn't struggle mightily, that that's

611
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,480
the quarter they've allowed the most points in. So I

612
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,160
do want to see how these teams start, because we

613
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,680
do know that when the Cougars get off to a

614
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,079
good start, they're tough to beat. Thirty five consecutive wins

615
00:31:24,519 --> 00:31:28,160
now for BYU when they just score first. Now, they

616
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,440
didn't score first in Ames and still found a way

617
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:32,880
to come back and win that game, so it's not

618
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,440
the be all and end all, But when they do

619
00:31:34,599 --> 00:31:37,279
score first, it's usually put into a pretty good indicator

620
00:31:37,559 --> 00:31:39,440
that day is where it needs to be.

621
00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: Now, I've been listening to you for over twenty years now, Greg,

622
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:47,079
and you've always pulled up that status starting fast and

623
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,359
how critical it is in BYU football history, and so

624
00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:54,440
I asked you this question, knowing that it's like, how

625
00:31:54,519 --> 00:31:57,079
is it that BYU now could in multiple games this

626
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:02,119
season has found a way to win being down early,

627
00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:05,079
you know Colorado game that was kind of we were

628
00:32:05,079 --> 00:32:08,640
all taken taken back a gas that what was happening

629
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,319
with Caden Salter and then the Iowa State game.

630
00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:13,599
Speaker 1: Uh, the way you found a way to win? How

631
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:14,440
are they doing that.

632
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,839
Speaker 5: Well? Because they are a resilient group. And that's the

633
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,839
great thing when you when you can combine a team

634
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,160
that that succeeds when starting fast with a team that's

635
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,759
never out of it, you got yourself a really good

636
00:32:24,759 --> 00:32:28,079
football team. They're they're they're winning when when trailing after half,

637
00:32:28,359 --> 00:32:30,839
or they're winning when trailing after three quarters. They're just

638
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,720
finding ways to win. And I think there's kind of

639
00:32:33,759 --> 00:32:36,440
a narrative out there right now that that b YU

640
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,400
doesn't control its games well enough that that there are

641
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,000
flashier teams in Texas Tech being one of them, that

642
00:32:42,039 --> 00:32:44,559
when they win, they just win, you know, going away

643
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,519
crushing people. But the fact is ba's not lost the

644
00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:51,240
game yet. So regardless of how you win, whether it's

645
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,319
from in front or coming from behind, if you're eight, no,

646
00:32:53,759 --> 00:32:55,680
you deserve more credit than the team that has one

647
00:32:55,759 --> 00:32:57,920
or two losses. Just straight up, I don't care if

648
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,759
the team with one or two losses blows people out,

649
00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:03,680
whin they win, They've also lost games. And the teams

650
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,119
that are blowing people out, some of those teams have

651
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,759
lost to BYU. Okay, they haven't done it against BUYU,

652
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:11,200
and the Cups haven't lost a game yet. So until

653
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,039
they lose a game, I don't want to hear about

654
00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:16,000
game control and how well you control a game because

655
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,799
all that matters is that you have more points than

656
00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:19,640
the other team when that game comes to an m

657
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,319
and that's been BYU eight times in eight games. So yeah,

658
00:33:23,319 --> 00:33:25,440
there's a belief about this team right now, Ben that

659
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,119
you know, give us any kind of scenario, we can

660
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,200
find a way to get it done. And we haven't

661
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,480
even mentioned the name Bear Bachmeyer yet. I think he's

662
00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:34,680
a pretty good embodiment of what this team is about.

663
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,440
How many times have we seen this year when there's

664
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,359
a line to gain or a goal line to be crossed,

665
00:33:40,359 --> 00:33:42,240
that Bear says them, It's going to get there, no

666
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,039
matter what it takes or how many guys I take

667
00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:45,920
with me. And that's a great thing to have from

668
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:46,960
your from your quarterback.

669
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:50,039
Speaker 3: I know you're a man of metrics, and since you

670
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:54,039
brought up you know some of these ways in which

671
00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:55,880
Bay's been winning. And I do want to get to

672
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,240
Bear Bachmeyer and for you to elaborate and pontificate on

673
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:02,359
his his abilities. It's been really fun to watch. He's

674
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:07,000
overachieved the expectation for every one of us. But one

675
00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:10,920
of the differentiating metrics that I've looked at in this

676
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,000
game and also the Utah game, and I think even

677
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,559
the Iowa State game, BYU's special teams unit per ESPNSP

678
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:20,920
plus metric is sixth in the country.

679
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: Tech in special teams tech is eightieth.

680
00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 3: And I feel like since K pop came around and

681
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,400
look ed LAMB was really good too with special teams.

682
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,000
But since K Pop came around, I've never seen as

683
00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:35,440
many touchdowns scored via special teams. I've never seen as

684
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,559
many turnovers created, or the flipping of the field, pinning

685
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,320
of an opponent.

686
00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: Within their ten yard line. It's been remarkable to watch.

687
00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:46,599
Speaker 3: And I think, I don't know, I don't know how

688
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:52,079
heavily weighted some of these some of these algorithms are

689
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:54,760
two special teams as one of the three facets of

690
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,440
complimentary football.

691
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,199
Speaker 2: Well.

692
00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:02,599
Speaker 5: Texas Tech coming into the week was second nationally in

693
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,079
average starting field position on offense, meaning they give their

694
00:35:06,119 --> 00:35:10,000
team the second fewest yards to have to go to

695
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,440
score a touchdown. So field position and special teams are

696
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,559
a massive part of what Texas Tech has been doing.

697
00:35:16,519 --> 00:35:19,360
And when it comes to where they force teams defensively,

698
00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:23,599
they're twenty first nationally. They're in defensive average starting field position.

699
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,800
So what Texas Tech is doing via special teams, but

700
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:30,800
not only special teams, is forcing teams to go a

701
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,559
long way and giving themselves a shorter way to go

702
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,320
by's no slouts though in both those categories the crews

703
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,400
are top twenty five as well. So I think field

704
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,599
position is one of the areas we can really look

705
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:43,199
to to say, whoever has the edge there might have

706
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,840
the edge in this game. I'm fairly confident that BYU

707
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,440
believe if they could take that average starting field position

708
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,000
of the about thirty six yard line for Texas Tech

709
00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:54,159
and make it make it closer to the twenty six

710
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,000
yard line, YA is going to feel it has a

711
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pretty good chance to win. In the Kalani Citake Era,

712
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EYU is plus an average starting field position. All right,

713
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,239
they are sixty five and ten, sixty five and ten,

714
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you just give them the better starting field position, and

715
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it's you know, you've given DYU a pretty good crack

716
00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:19,440
at a victory. And then you talk about, you know,

717
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points scored on defense and special teams. When when a

718
00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:27,000
touchdown scored by defensive our special teams player under colomby

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BYU's nineteen and four, when that happens and they won

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nine straight games in that scenario as well. So I

721
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think special teams is a great place to go. And

722
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the reason I like average starting field position. We've talked

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about this is it's not just a special team stat

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because offense and defense bowls contribute to that, to that

725
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average starting field position number. So I think, to me ASFP,

726
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,119
average running field position is the embodiment of the phrase

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complementary football.

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Speaker 1: Greg.

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Speaker 3: I've been evaluating you know, quarterback play over the last

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five years and comparing it to what Bear Bachmeyer is

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doing right now, and it's honestly impressive efficiency wise, what

732
00:37:05,519 --> 00:37:08,119
he's been able to produce, not coughing up the football,

733
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making good decisions with that football, being able to run

734
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the football with efficiency and power and and scoring the football.

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Speaker 1: Recently.

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Speaker 3: I compared to contrast, even Jake Retzlaff over at Tulane,

737
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and I know the supporting cast are different, coaches is

738
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different and stuff like that, but bear Bachmeyer has completely

739
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:34,280
overachieved statistically from a leadership standpoint, from a you know,

740
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,519
even his interactions with media, I'll be a the you know,

741
00:37:36,639 --> 00:37:41,320
short intermit, like his stoicism and his calm, cool, collected demeanor.

742
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:46,039
He fits like perfectly. If A Rod was to create

743
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:54,119
a like a genetically enhanced quarterback personality wise, you know, biochemistry,

744
00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:58,199
et cetera, physical physically wise, like, it would be bear Bachmar.

745
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,039
It's like the perfect fit for the A Rod offense.

746
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Could you maybe elaborate on that perfect fit?

747
00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we're going to look back at at

748
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how bear Backmeyer went from Stanford to b YU as

749
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,159
one of the great transactions in in Cougar football history.

750
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How this happened, why it happened, How how fortunate by

751
00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:25,360
you got with everything that came after that. I mean,

752
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it's it's crazy to think about where b YU might

753
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have been as opposed to where they are right now,

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and thanks almost only to one guy, bear Bachmeyer. You're

755
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right about he's what you want. You want your guy

756
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to be, you know, cool, you know, composed, you use

757
00:38:43,679 --> 00:38:46,400
the word stoic all you know, that's great to have

758
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,960
that that guy off the field the way he is,

759
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and he's this, and then yet that same guy on

760
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,760
the field becomes an absolute animal, right he He he

761
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,079
is an absolute man, possessed when it's when it with

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the ball in his hands and an objective in mind.

763
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And that's exactly what you want. He's the smart guy,

764
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the calm guy, the cool guy to assess and synthesize

765
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and read and call and change and do all the

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things a quarterback has to do. But then when it

767
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comes time to secure a football and find a yard line,

768
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he will not be denied. And when it's time to

769
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square the shoulders on the run and throw a laser,

770
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:31,760
you know, over a defender in front of a defender,

771
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into the arms of your waiting receiver and do it accurately,

772
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he's been that guy too.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: Yes, he's a freshman and he doesn't doesn't make every

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play because he's only a freshman, But most of the

776
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plays he's been asked to make, he's been able to

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come through in flying colors and I just think it's

778
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the story of the year for BYU, one of the

779
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stories in college football what Bear Bachmeyer's been able to

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do with that position.

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Speaker 3: College game Day last visited Lubbock in two thousand and

782
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eight when Texas Tech took on Texas That was the

783
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,480
Michael Krabtree. Last time by you got a visit from

784
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from game Day in Provo was the TCU game, I

785
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,360
believe in two thousand and nine, And it made me

786
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,760
think that, like, these two teams are on the same,

787
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,639
maybe similar trajectory, and I wonder if these will be

788
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,119
possibly the new brand ambassadors for the Big twelve. We've

789
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,320
often talked about this as media members at least talking heads,

790
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,840
the radio heads right out here though, just the shock

791
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,440
jocks of the world, and I'm like, man, it kind

792
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,880
of feels like these two teams could be the brand

793
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,199
ambassador's moving forward because of their organization, will design the

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culture that the men that are leading their respective programs.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's been pretty well documented, you know, the pipeline

796
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,519
no pun intended, or maybe pun absolutely intended that that

797
00:40:51,559 --> 00:40:53,800
Texas Tech has to its program right now through the

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oil industry and the boosters they have right now in

799
00:40:56,679 --> 00:40:58,760
that program, and I don't think Boy is going to

800
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be suffering for re sources anytime soon either. So yeah,

801
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,719
I don't see why these two why these couldn't be

802
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two kind of flagship programs for the conference moving forward.

803
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,639
We've seen just how quickly things can go south though,

804
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,800
right for traditional powers. Let's talk about Oklahoma State. The

805
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,719
first year BYU was in the league. That was kind

806
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,719
of a team expected to carry the banner from Texas

807
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:25,280
and Oklahoma moving forward, and they absolutely disappeared. And so

808
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,079
you have to be able to do it the new way,

809
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,079
and Oklahoma State was slow to adapt and slow to adopt,

810
00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:32,000
and b YU and Texas Tech were not. And that's

811
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why we see those teams where they are.

812
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Speaker 3: Love it, Greg, real quick scattering report on Texas Tech.

813
00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:41,360
How do you see this game maybe playing out and

814
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,559
knowing that our team's pretty healthy all things considered, and

815
00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:47,840
coming off of bye week, they should be well prepared,

816
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,639
well rested, healthy and strong to get out there and

817
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:51,760
ball out and love it.

818
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think the national stats just telling

819
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,159
you what you need to know about Texas. They're as

820
00:41:57,199 --> 00:41:59,480
well rounded team as there is in college football right now.

821
00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:03,320
Barren Moore is a starter again, Let's see how he

822
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,199
does with that role. He's been really good with that

823
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,280
role historically. You know, Baron Morton, when he can start

824
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,119
a game and stay in the game that that is,

825
00:42:12,159 --> 00:42:16,199
not leave injured, he's good given himself, giving his team

826
00:42:16,599 --> 00:42:19,079
a real good chance to win football games. He's twenty

827
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:23,119
one and nine in thirty career starts, and since twenty

828
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:25,239
twenty three, when B one he joined the league, he's

829
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,960
nineteen or the team is nineteen and four where he

830
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,039
starts and doesn't lead the game injured. Now, he did

831
00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:32,880
not play in the game at BYU back in twenty

832
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,880
twenty three, let's remember that. But you know, he's kind

833
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,760
of he's like Rockabeck and any number of other quarterbacks.

834
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,320
What he's seen in this Big twelve. It's a good

835
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:43,960
quarterback league, and he's the guy that makes it go.

836
00:42:44,039 --> 00:42:47,880
And although the backup played well while Morton was hurt,

837
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I think Baron being back is certainly positive news for

838
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,199
Texas Tech. And I think, you know, the way the

839
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,039
backup played made people kind of forget a little bit

840
00:42:57,039 --> 00:42:59,039
about how good Baron was. But he's still a really

841
00:42:59,039 --> 00:43:02,239
good quarterback. I just you know, I don't know, I don't.

842
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,239
I don't know the BYU scores, you know, uppards of

843
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,599
forty in this game, like they did at Iowa State.

844
00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:11,599
But it doesn't matter necessarily to me what the point

845
00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:14,800
total is in this game. Texas Tech is good enough

846
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,199
detensively that you may not score a big number, but

847
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,679
by you should expect to score some points, you know,

848
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,000
not not not be brought down entirely to where they're

849
00:43:24,039 --> 00:43:27,440
you know, hopeless and punchless, like like Texas Tech has

850
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:28,880
done to every other team they've seen this year, with

851
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,239
the exception of one being as you.

852
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not a gambling man, but I always look

853
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,920
at the spread, and I look at the total, right

854
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,480
fifty two and a half and and Boa has been

855
00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:41,519
covering as an underdog, and they've many times overachieved in

856
00:43:41,519 --> 00:43:46,199
the point total when the prognosticators say that it's going

857
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,599
to be lower than than they think.

858
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: Right.

859
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Speaker 3: So, Greg, I always appreciate our time together. Best way

860
00:43:51,639 --> 00:43:53,840
to support you what you guys do and how you

861
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,719
do it. Love listening to your calls, whether it's live

862
00:43:57,039 --> 00:43:58,559
or I get to go back and listen to it.

863
00:43:58,599 --> 00:44:00,280
If I wasn't able to get all all of the

864
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:01,599
nuggets from your broadcast.

865
00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 5: Thanks Ben, And one quick note about this game. As

866
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,000
good as Texas Tech is, we've said a lot of

867
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,920
good things about them. They're heavily penalized team and they

868
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,599
give the ball away pretty frequently, all right, And those

869
00:44:13,639 --> 00:44:15,800
are the two things that will kill you in any

870
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:20,079
close game, right, do you hurt yourself? And the takeaway number?

871
00:44:20,159 --> 00:44:23,280
And dy has been really, really good with ball security.

872
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,320
It's the one area where Texas has been a little

873
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,800
bit loose. Now they do have twenty takeaways to compensate,

874
00:44:28,039 --> 00:44:30,400
but they've given it away pretty frequently. And so I

875
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,559
want to watch three key numbers. We talked about average

876
00:44:32,559 --> 00:44:35,440
starting fuel position, who's got the edge? There is Texas

877
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,639
Tech killing ITSELFIA penalties, and can DYU finished positive in

878
00:44:38,679 --> 00:44:40,960
the turnover margin? Let's watch those on Saturdays.

879
00:44:41,519 --> 00:44:43,599
Speaker 1: Greg, we salute you, we appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: You do the best work in the business as a

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play by play voice, and you've got a great crew

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surrounding you with hands and Pits and Mitchell and the

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rest of the crew.

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Speaker 1: Ralph Sofilowski.

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Speaker 3: You've created an all star cast for an all star

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type of broadcast.

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Speaker 1: Great job. Thanks joining us today to give us some insight.

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Speaker 5: Ben you're very kind, Thanks for the invite and going

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to be with you as always.

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