WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:03.000 Do you exclaimer to the fair season? Karen's out there? 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.440 How dare you? All guests on the show do not 3 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:09.080 reflect the opinions of the host. The purpose of the 4 00:00:09.080 --> 00:00:11.480 show is to have interesting conversations, stretch our minds and 5 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:14.839 grow not what we want. If you are looking for 6 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:22.719 an echo chamber, you were listener discretion. As you talking 7 00:00:22.719 --> 00:00:30.480 about extreme anowledge the crown, we will guilty from the 8 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:36.000 super They don't fear the questions, they fear the fun. 9 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:38.359 So we see. 10 00:00:44.679 --> 00:00:50.840 See they content. 11 00:00:52.039 --> 00:01:00.039 Thank you the aracy, But does the dark. 12 00:01:01.960 --> 00:01:12.920 Shows? Hey, guys, what is happening and what is up? 13 00:01:13.120 --> 00:01:15.359 Hold out that glass baby, because you know what time 14 00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:18.000 it is. We are about to feel it. Welcome to 15 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:21.239 the Prometheus Lens podcast, the place where the conversations are 16 00:01:21.280 --> 00:01:24.159 always in lightning. I'm your host, Doc Brown, and here 17 00:01:24.200 --> 00:01:27.439 we like to use the allegory other Prometheus Lens take 18 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:31.400 a second look at everything. Well, guys, I took a 19 00:01:31.439 --> 00:01:36.719 trip down the rabbit hole. Robert Seffer is a guy 20 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:39.599 that I followed and listened to his stuff for quite 21 00:01:39.640 --> 00:01:43.000 a while. Very fascinating guy. He's got some really good 22 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:47.959 perspectives and different perspectives and been reaching out to this 23 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:49.560 guy for a long time, try to get him on 24 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:52.000 the show, but he's a big name guy and he's 25 00:01:52.359 --> 00:01:54.599 basically said he's not going to go on anybody's show 26 00:01:55.120 --> 00:01:59.120 except for Joe Rogan. So I finally broke down and 27 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:01.719 I bought a bunch of these books and I kind 28 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:04.040 of shared that on my Facebook page and was talking 29 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:07.400 about I was excited to dive into them, and a 30 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:09.719 friend of mine reached out to me. It was like, Hey, 31 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:13.960 I'd like to read that sixteen sixty six book myself. 32 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:18.439 Let's read that and collab on something and kind of 33 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:20.319 break this down and talk about it. So I'm really 34 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:23.159 excited to have this discussion. And this is another man 35 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:25.240 that I've tried to get on the show quite a 36 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:28.479 few times and we've had some scheduling issues. So I'm 37 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:30.280 real excited to have him on the show for the 38 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:32.840 first but hopefully this is the first of many. But 39 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:35.479 I like to welcome to the show BT while it's 40 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:37.680 BT thing for coming on. Man, Yeah, thank you for 41 00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:38.199 the m mate. 42 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:39.520 I appreciate it. Dude. 43 00:02:40.039 --> 00:02:44.439 Oh yeah, You're definitely a big brain guy, a great researcher. 44 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:46.240 So I'm really excited to sit down and talk with 45 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:48.000 you and kind of flesh this out and get your 46 00:02:48.039 --> 00:02:54.520 perspectives right on. Thank you. Well, for those that's not 47 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:57.800 familiar with you and your podcast, just kind of introduce 48 00:02:57.879 --> 00:03:00.319 yourself to the listeners. Give everybody a little backgroun who 49 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:02.000 you are and what you do, and a little bit 50 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:03.599 about your show man. Right. 51 00:03:03.639 --> 00:03:05.319 Yes, it's the time to do the thing that I 52 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:06.879 do with all my guestses and I just say, hey, 53 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:09.319 drop your links, tell me what you do, right, Yeah. 54 00:03:09.360 --> 00:03:13.599 So I host Truth and Shadow podcast where we explore 55 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:21.159 some of the different things I deal with, psychology, true crime, philosophy, 56 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:24.919 I look at some things religious, Christian and otherwise. We 57 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:27.319 just explore anything that comes to mind. And I say, hey, 58 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:29.360 that's something I want to look at. It's the same 59 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:33.039 thing we're looking at. You looking at this sixty sixteen 60 00:03:33.080 --> 00:03:35.000 sixty six book going you know, I've meant to read this, 61 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:38.039 but I usually need to have a motivator to read 62 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:39.639 something with this. So I was like, well, look, I 63 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:44.159 can dig into this myself and run a couple shadow shorts. 64 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:46.199 I run shadow shorts on my podcast, which is just 65 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:50.199 me monologuing about a topic I like. And I said, well, 66 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:53.560 you know, I could probably interact with Doc Brown about 67 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:55.240 this little bit and see what we can pull out. 68 00:03:55.599 --> 00:03:59.120 So you check me out Truth and Shadow podcast dot 69 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:03.360 something dot org I think it is, or just google 70 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:08.039 Truth and Good with BT Wallace. It's on YouTube, iTunes, 71 00:04:09.439 --> 00:04:11.280 it's on all of the platforms you can find me 72 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:13.639 anywhere podcasts are streamed. 73 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:18.120 Nice well man, be sure to check him out. Like 74 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:20.680 I said, you won't be disappointed, and after you hear 75 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:23.920 this conversation, you will know why I recommend you check 76 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:27.040 him out because, like I said, he's a big bring guy, 77 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:30.720 a real good researcher, and you definitely enjoy his content. 78 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:32.920 If you like listening to the stuff that I talk about, 79 00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:36.279 he probably goes in a lot deeper and more esoteric 80 00:04:36.319 --> 00:04:39.240 stuff because I've actually you actually have a background in 81 00:04:39.279 --> 00:04:40.360 the occult, don't you bet. 82 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:43.560 Yeah. It was an esotericist for quite a while, dealing 83 00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:46.399 with some pretty dark stuff during a rather depressing and 84 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:47.439 dark time in my past. 85 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:52.959 M well, man, I guess we can get into the 86 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:58.040 meat of the matter. So sixteen sixty six Robert Zephyr, 87 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:04.079 honestly just the date. You know, you've got the triple 88 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:06.519 sixes and it's like, man, what is this book? About 89 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:09.079 It's kind of a one of those books is kind 90 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:11.560 of like a schmortgage board. It kind of launches you 91 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:14.720 off at this certain date, but it spiderwebs off quite 92 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:15.879 a bit, it does. 93 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:18.879 Yeah. Yeah, we see a lot of big names pop 94 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:24.000 up through this each Let's see what's her name, Blovotsky, 95 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:27.040 And we're going to talk about Rabbi Zevy here in 96 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:29.720 a little bit. I mean, there's just you know, an 97 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:33.319 Adam Weishap, the creator of the Illuminati. There's so many 98 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:36.839 names in this text that it pulls you into a 99 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:40.079 rabbit hole and just keeps sucking you further and encouraging 100 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:42.120 really to dig into these things a little bit more 101 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:45.519 than the surface level that's really treated in this text. 102 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:48.680 Oh yeah, because this book right here honestly could be 103 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:52.480 a springboard into many other rabbit holes. Like you said, 104 00:05:52.519 --> 00:05:54.560 it kind of touches and goes on a lot of 105 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:58.519 different things, but he makes all these connection points to these, 106 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:03.040 you know, various rabbit holes. But and I told you 107 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:04.920 pre roll, this was something that I've not really tooken 108 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:06.279 a deep dive in, so a lot of this was 109 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:08.480 new material for me. So it was kind of exciting 110 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:12.920 for me. But one thing. Man, I got my notes here, guys, 111 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:15.199 so as I read this, I took me some notes, 112 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:16.879 so you'll see me kind of look into the side 113 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:21.439 for mental references. But you know, I guess starting off 114 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:23.800 with you know, Rabbi Zev. This was a guy that 115 00:06:25.040 --> 00:06:30.720 I had never even heard of, and the title of 116 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:33.360 Messiah is attached to this guy. And most of the time, 117 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:35.759 you know, us as Christians, we hear the word Messiah, 118 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:38.879 we think of Jesus Christ. But this is a manned 119 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:41.839 This is a man in sixteen sixty six that came 120 00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:44.800 forward and claimed to be that Messiah. Have you ever 121 00:06:44.839 --> 00:06:47.079 heard of zeb before? Bt? 122 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:49.399 Yes, Zev is actually one of the names that will 123 00:06:49.439 --> 00:06:53.240 pop up for anybody who studies Cabala, specifically through anything 124 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:56.759 Golden Dawn related or even some of the Thelma information. 125 00:06:56.879 --> 00:07:02.800 You'll find Rabbi Zev mentioned through various texts written by 126 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:05.040 a whole lot of different people, because he's kind of 127 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:08.920 paramount in some of the deranged things that develop within 128 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:14.680 those more wink wink nudge nudge communities in the occult world. 129 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:19.680 Yeah, and I thought it was just crazy, because you know, 130 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:24.439 he comes out and actually it's somebody else that propagates 131 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:29.040 him to you know, come out and say he's the messiah. Honestly, 132 00:07:29.199 --> 00:07:31.480 he kind of had some nudges from some other people, 133 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:35.800 but he had like over i think it said one 134 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:41.000 over one million followers in his prime. And one of 135 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:43.399 the things that he really made this man significant was 136 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:47.240 his claims that he planned to redeem the world through 137 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:50.560 acts of sin and even used the Talmuds you kind 138 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:53.360 of back up his claims. So it's like, not only 139 00:07:53.399 --> 00:07:55.600 are you claiming to be a messiah, but you're telling 140 00:07:55.639 --> 00:07:59.120 people to do sex, drugs in rock and roll and 141 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:01.199 all this tibacher to redeem the world. 142 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:04.839 Yeah, exactly. I mean it stands right against what Paul 143 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:07.279 writes and what is it Romans where he says, shall 144 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:11.199 we continue and sin so that grace will abound by 145 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:13.519 no means? And so it really flies in the face 146 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:18.439 of Christianity when this central concept being discussed here is 147 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:22.360 this inversion that we need to be more sinful to 148 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:23.439 bring in more grace. 149 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:29.040 Oh yeah, and he only had a ten year run. 150 00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:35.559 He died in sixteen seventy six, but his work kind 151 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:39.679 of carried on through a nook, you said. Another cobblist 152 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:43.799 of Jacob Frank, right, and that was another guy that 153 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:47.159 I'd never heard of, but i'd heard that Frankist title. 154 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:48.240 Yeah. 155 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:50.080 I mean, if you start looking into some of these 156 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:58.440 shootof cults that develop within the post Temple Judaism, if 157 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:02.000 you will, right off the bat, early early first century, 158 00:09:02.279 --> 00:09:06.360 we start seeing the Mezerits. They're the first to show 159 00:09:06.399 --> 00:09:09.679 up on the scene, and there are several other Masonic 160 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:12.480 figures that pop up throughout history. But when we get 161 00:09:12.519 --> 00:09:15.720 to Rabbi zev it's a little bit different in what 162 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:20.919 he's wanting people to do. He's talking about this inversion behavior. 163 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:25.679 And then yes, we lead into Jacob Frank who starts 164 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:29.399 the Frankests and these guys. This is where a lot 165 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:32.879 of the i'll use the word Pizzagate stuff is kind 166 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:37.080 of early seventeenth century going on. So there's a lot 167 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:40.000 of children's stuff going on that's real bad, real nasty. 168 00:09:40.080 --> 00:09:43.360 Some serious Mulloch worship, if you will, abortion things like 169 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:48.600 that are spawning and kicking off within this particular Judaism 170 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:51.799 if you will. 171 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:55.840 Yeah, and we'll kind of dive into that. I want 172 00:09:55.919 --> 00:09:57.840 to just kind of give like a little kind of 173 00:09:57.919 --> 00:10:01.240 quick synopsis in whatever you know, rabbit holes, you think 174 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:04.679 is worth exploring. I want to have just this as 175 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:09.080 just a free conversation here. But another thing, like you 176 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:13.440 had mentioned, is all these different connection points. And Jacob 177 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:16.799 Frank actually one of his big things is he entered 178 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:21.720 into this alliance with the Adam Weisshaup and Mayor Amstel 179 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:27.879 of the Rothschilds. So here you even have some Illuminati, right, yes, 180 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:34.320 but they claimed that, you know, through their infiltration of 181 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:37.240 the secret societies like the Freemasons and things like that 182 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:40.440 would help kind of carry out this global agenda that 183 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:44.639 they had. And basically, I think if I read it correctly, 184 00:10:44.679 --> 00:10:50.600 that they were saying, like the the Freemason lodges was 185 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:54.720 the nurseries for the Illuminati that they had these guys 186 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:59.960 just kind of infiltrate and pick some of these guys out, 187 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:01.279 you know what I mean. So it's kind of like 188 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:04.039 the secret club within the club kind of thing. 189 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:08.600 Recruiting out of the Masons is pretty common. The Golden 190 00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:11.720 Dawn does it, uh, the uh Rosa Christians do it. 191 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:15.519 So there's no real small surprise. I mean even within Mason, 192 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:21.080 even within Freemasonry, the Scottish right will come and pull 193 00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:23.519 some people out of other rights into theirs. This is 194 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:25.440 where we have the thirty three. It doesn't exist in 195 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:27.360 some of the other rights. But to be a thirty 196 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:29.440 three degree meason, you have to be a Scottish right mason. 197 00:11:29.679 --> 00:11:32.120 So there's a whole lot of stuff going on, absolutely, man. 198 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:38.960 And another thing too, kind of carrying on with this 199 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:42.480 guy here, this Frank, and we'll circle back to Zebby. 200 00:11:42.639 --> 00:11:44.039 Like I said, I just kind of want to give 201 00:11:44.039 --> 00:11:48.679 a little little quick timeline. It's good, but uh, during 202 00:11:49.799 --> 00:11:54.080 during this time uh with the Zeby and he has 203 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:57.080 one million followers. Uh if you think about that, I 204 00:11:57.080 --> 00:11:59.960 mean that's a big number anyway, but during this time frame, 205 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:03.399 this was basically half of the Jewish population in the 206 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:06.960 seventeenth century. So, I mean this guy was really significant. 207 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:12.759 And you had mentioned the frank guy that carried the 208 00:12:12.759 --> 00:12:18.840 torch on his teachings is known today as Louannick Cabal. 209 00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:20.440 Is that am I saying that? Right? 210 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:24.320 Yeah, that's Isaac Luria, So yes, absolutely. 211 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:30.960 And then what's crazy too stands out in my mind 212 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:35.440 was I remember reading can you remember the guy what's 213 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:38.039 the guy's name that kind of breathed life into Zebby 214 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:40.240 and told him, Hey, you know you're the Messiah, you 215 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:41.639 need to go forward and do this. 216 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:43.919 Yeah, I know, because that was the name that I 217 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:46.320 didn't decide to write down because Zev was kind of 218 00:12:46.360 --> 00:12:47.919 like the main character in the story. 219 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:49.000 Yeah. 220 00:12:49.159 --> 00:12:52.639 Yeah, So well, when you look at Zev's story, if 221 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:55.240 I can remember correctly part of what was going on, 222 00:12:56.039 --> 00:12:58.120 give me a minute here, because this is what was 223 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:06.240 this Western Anatolia the time seventeenth century, and we wanted 224 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:12.960 Zev was kind of being pushed around. I think there's 225 00:13:12.960 --> 00:13:16.200 some there was a sultan involved, Ottoman Empire. 226 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:17.879 Rabbi Nathan. 227 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:22.240 It's Nathan, that's it. Yeah, Rabby Nathan's this guy which 228 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:24.360 is a real funny name. He could be pulling this 229 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:27.519 in Nathan of Gaza. Nathan of Gaza. 230 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:32.480 Yeah, and uh well I thought was crazy? Is you know, 231 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:37.200 he was pushed to jump into this messiah role and honestly, 232 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:39.039 with the times that we're in, it kind of reminds 233 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:41.279 me of Trump. You know. What's going on here is 234 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:46.000 like he come in and his faith advisors all gathered 235 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:48.039 around him and you know, basically build him up to 236 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:50.799 be this messiah figure and tell him. You know, saying 237 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:53.120 no to Donald Trump is like saying no to God. 238 00:13:53.279 --> 00:13:56.080 And you have the Jewish people painting him as the 239 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:59.320 second coming of Cyrus and even calling him the Messiah, 240 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:02.480 and he's doing this holy war right now, and it's 241 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:05.600 kind of like with all that talk, now he actually 242 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:08.240 believes it. You know. He posted that picture all over 243 00:14:08.279 --> 00:14:13.799 social media of him as a quote unquote doctor. I'm like, 244 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:16.320 come on, you know, yeah exactly. 245 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:20.159 Rabbi Nathan's pushing this guy into into being this messiah. 246 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:23.080 And you got Paula White doing it to Donald Trump. Absolutely, 247 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:24.000 that's what I see too. 248 00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:28.279 Yeah, and he ends up getting captured and this is 249 00:14:28.279 --> 00:14:31.279 what I thought was even the if it wasn't insane 250 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:35.120 enough for you folks, he gets captured by this Sufi 251 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:40.240 king or prince and basically tells him convert or die. 252 00:14:40.440 --> 00:14:42.519 You're going to become a Muslim or I'm going to 253 00:14:42.600 --> 00:14:45.679 cut your head off. And the dude says, okay, ick 254 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:49.720 my head, I'm going to convert. But he lost a 255 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:51.559 little bit of his followers, but a lot of them 256 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:54.600 doubled down and said, no, no, no, he has to 257 00:14:54.679 --> 00:15:00.399 do this. It's part of him redeeming the world. Right. 258 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:03.879 Yeah, there's a principle within Judaism anyways that you're allowed 259 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:07.200 to do these things to save your self. 260 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:12.360 And that blewed my mind. Right, I'd never heard of that, 261 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:17.240 And like we had briefly mentioned, so he you know, 262 00:15:17.399 --> 00:15:22.440 condones these unholy practices of orgies. That's ultimately what got 263 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:27.320 him kicked out the Samaria in sixteen fifty and had 264 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:29.320 him wandering and stuff like that. That's how he ended 265 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:36.279 up getting captured by this you know, Sufi king. But 266 00:15:36.360 --> 00:15:41.200 this whole divine spark thing, I'd never heard of that, 267 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:43.519 And this if you don't care, bt, I know you're 268 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:46.960 real versed on this stuff. Kind of give them an 269 00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:50.480 overview of, you know, their ideology. Why, you know, what 270 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:54.200 are these divine sparks, how do they affect the redemption 271 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:57.480 of the world, and why they think this tibautry is 272 00:15:57.519 --> 00:15:59.159 a way to salvation. 273 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:01.200 Yeah, so this is where we have to dig a 274 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:04.480 little bit into Jacob Frank because he's the one that 275 00:16:04.799 --> 00:16:07.879 illuminates or writes down a lot of this information. But 276 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:11.559 we can go ahead and speculate and talk about it 277 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:14.399 a little bit here. Absolutely, so when we start digging 278 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:18.399 around and looking at some of these various cults, I'm 279 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:22.360 Rabbi zev is what I put into an apocalyptic cult. 280 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:24.759 He's right up there with Jim Jones in my opinion, 281 00:16:24.799 --> 00:16:27.919 he's there with some of the early Jovah's witnesses, and 282 00:16:27.960 --> 00:16:31.080 he's he's basically someone who gets a lot of popularity 283 00:16:31.879 --> 00:16:33.720 by talking about how the end of the world is 284 00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:37.080 going to come about by doing certain things. Okay, well, 285 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:39.559 that's all well and good to talk about how the 286 00:16:39.639 --> 00:16:41.440 end of the world's going to come by us doing things. Well, 287 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:48.200 the thing was, and what makes it really compelling and dangerous, Dude, 288 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:53.440 this is so dangerous is because psychologically humans know we're failures. 289 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:55.720 We're going to fail. Even as Christians, we know we're 290 00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:59.720 centers and we're going to fall off and miss the 291 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:04.200 mark continually. Well, Rabbi's v shows up and he's like, yes, 292 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:07.079 it's this human sense of failure that is actually what's 293 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:09.640 going to help bring about the end of the world 294 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:12.839 and the return of the Davidic Kingdom so on and 295 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:15.279 so forth, and the real Messiah or whatever's going to 296 00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:17.240 come or he's the Messiah, He's going to bring about 297 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:20.920 the return of the Davidic Kingdom. I mean, you know, 298 00:17:20.960 --> 00:17:23.720 a dude's about sixteen hundred and sixty six years late. 299 00:17:24.119 --> 00:17:26.880 He already came, but you know they don't buy that. 300 00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:32.000 So we're dealing with the world doc that is really 301 00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:41.720 struggling with guilt contradictions, that sin itself may actually serve 302 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:44.559 as a divine plan. So it frees up a lot 303 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:47.039 of people to go, Okay, I can go ahead and 304 00:17:47.079 --> 00:17:51.359 engage and do these acts, and I know that they 305 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:54.559 are sanctioned by God because Rabbi Zev says so, and 306 00:17:54.640 --> 00:17:57.319 rabbiz V has the backing of another guy, Rabbi Nathan, 307 00:17:57.759 --> 00:17:59.839 And so we're looking at all of this and it's 308 00:17:59.839 --> 00:18:04.279 a big phenomena. Dude. Anytime anybody can get some kind 309 00:18:04.319 --> 00:18:09.160 of permission to continue behaving in their darkness, that is 310 00:18:09.279 --> 00:18:13.480 usually where you're going to get some of the cultural followings. 311 00:18:13.960 --> 00:18:15.079 And this is no different. 312 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:20.599 Mm No, I totally agree. And so basically, the way 313 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:22.359 I understood it when I was reading this is like 314 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:28.720 they believed that God, when he was creating everything, he 315 00:18:28.799 --> 00:18:34.039 put his essence. Basically, he downgraded hisself and divided hisself 316 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:37.319 into these uh eleven. 317 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:41.640 Ten technically, so when we're starting to talk about the sparks, 318 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:45.079 the ten Sepharroth, that's what we're calling. We're depending on 319 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:47.240 who you're talking about. There's ten of them. There's an 320 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:50.720 eleventh that's called and that was actually explored by Alistair 321 00:18:50.759 --> 00:18:54.079 Crole and it may or may not exist within the 322 00:18:54.519 --> 00:18:58.400 Cabbalistic Tree of Life. That's the that's the name of 323 00:18:58.440 --> 00:19:01.279 the item. So if you google the Cabalistic Tree of Life, 324 00:19:01.319 --> 00:19:04.960 you're going to see usually a map with ten spheres, 325 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:07.759 the bottom of which is going to be here Earth Malcouth, 326 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:11.519 and above it's Yasad that's the moon, and then and 327 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:15.480 then at the tip top I do believe is Keer. 328 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:17.359 I can't remember, it's Kefer or something like that. 329 00:19:17.440 --> 00:19:17.680 Yeah, I. 330 00:19:19.400 --> 00:19:21.680 Don't have my map. Yeah, okay, I see it. But 331 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:27.440 even above that is as three emanitions of God, the 332 00:19:27.480 --> 00:19:30.799 A and the A and the a and sofor and 333 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:36.759 so God being this, being light and being true white light, 334 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:42.319 cannot basically, after the fall of atom, give his light 335 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:44.680 to mankind because it's just too much. It's too much 336 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:47.039 bright too. We wouldn't be able to deal with it. 337 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:50.759 So he sends it down in these ten other spheres, 338 00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:53.240 and they're usually associated with planets. 339 00:19:54.039 --> 00:19:58.000 Most days don't look like an emergency. That's why most 340 00:19:58.000 --> 00:20:03.599 people never think about what they're we do because preparedness 341 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:07.599 isn't about looking the party, it's about being ready anyway. 342 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:12.000 Comfort isn't a luxury, it's what keeps you moving when 343 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:16.039 the day goes longer than planned. That's why every Squatch 344 00:20:16.079 --> 00:20:20.240 survival pack is made here, start to finish. Squatch builds 345 00:20:20.319 --> 00:20:24.000 packs for people who don't assume the day will stay easy. 346 00:20:24.440 --> 00:20:29.480 Rugaru Mofman built to last your missions and be passed 347 00:20:29.559 --> 00:20:33.880 down when you're done. Squatch survival gear ready for the 348 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:34.440 next one. 349 00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:40.720 And that that kind of makes a little bit of 350 00:20:40.759 --> 00:20:43.200 sense because of how many planets are in our Solar system. 351 00:20:43.240 --> 00:20:46.119 And yes, Pluto is still a planet. I don't really care, Neil, 352 00:20:46.400 --> 00:20:50.119 you can suck it. Pardon my language, but Pluto's a planet. 353 00:20:50.400 --> 00:20:53.160 Pluto is very much part of the Coblist decree of life. 354 00:20:53.279 --> 00:20:55.240 The Babylonians knew there was a planet out there, and 355 00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:57.880 they knew it was there, so it's it's all part 356 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:02.799 of these ancient, ancient ideas of God being incapable of 357 00:21:02.839 --> 00:21:06.279 interacting with humanity and having to do it through some 358 00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:09.359 kind of sphere, and it would require an intermediary and 359 00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:12.680 occultist and esotericis to be able to reach. 360 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:13.319 Out and. 361 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:21.200 Draw that light that spark down. Is that your question 362 00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:21.880 about the stuff? 363 00:21:21.880 --> 00:21:24.759 Oh yeah, I just kind of want him to because 364 00:21:24.759 --> 00:21:25.640 we have the opposition. 365 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:29.079 Yeah, we could talk about the Kleepoat, which is the 366 00:21:29.079 --> 00:21:33.119 the dark opposite. I mean, there's due to the fact 367 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:34.880 that when God that they're. 368 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:36.920 Talking about in this book, that they have to go 369 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:41.279 and cleanse to restore. Yeah, that's the opposite tree. 370 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:43.400 Right exactly. And that's and that's kind of the goal 371 00:21:43.440 --> 00:21:49.960 of anes Cobblist too, the tree of life. The Tree 372 00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:54.680 of Life is given basically as a what we should be, 373 00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:58.559 what mankind should be, but we have this shadow it's 374 00:21:58.680 --> 00:22:01.039 it's something I explore on my podcast all the time, 375 00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:05.359 is the youngiin concept of the shadow self, and this 376 00:22:05.440 --> 00:22:07.160 is just something that's part of us. Well, that's the 377 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:10.319 in Cabala, that's the cleep vote, that's the dark spheres. 378 00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:13.640 And they're pretty much opposites exactly as you see them. 379 00:22:13.680 --> 00:22:16.880 So if you see malcouth as earth here and all 380 00:22:16.920 --> 00:22:19.880 that's kind of in this world, that would be good 381 00:22:20.480 --> 00:22:26.160 and true and beautiful. The opposite cleap vote would be 382 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:32.319 a malcouth but it's disordered, it's debauchery, it's sin, and 383 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:35.599 you have to cleanse those by doing the things within 384 00:22:35.920 --> 00:22:37.319 that particular sphere. 385 00:22:39.759 --> 00:22:42.599 Yeah, it just gives you an excuse to party all night. 386 00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:44.759 I think it's just you know, hey, you know, I'm 387 00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:48.279 just somebody's got to do it. You know, it's right, because. 388 00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:51.160 Being held accountable for your abuses is the hardest thing 389 00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:54.880 to deal with in life. Yes, absolutely, But. 390 00:22:55.559 --> 00:22:57.680 I got here. The notes says that, you know, Kabbola 391 00:22:57.759 --> 00:23:01.920 became a mystical mix of pagan teachings that predated the 392 00:23:01.960 --> 00:23:06.640 Torah and gnostic elements of Judaism, and texts like the 393 00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:11.480 Zohar say not to destroy evil, but to return it 394 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:14.839 to the source, join the left with the right, and 395 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:17.839 uplift the fallen sparks. And that's kind of what we 396 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:19.000 just talked about there. 397 00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:23.279 Well, they get that idea because God says in I 398 00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:25.799 can't remember what book, I create good and I create evil, 399 00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:28.359 So you have to return evil back to God. 400 00:23:28.400 --> 00:23:28.880 I mean. 401 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:32.160