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<v Speaker 1>I'm fascinated and candidly I'm impressed. I never really could

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<v Speaker 1>understand what the two week pause meant or what.

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<v Speaker 2>It was for.

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<v Speaker 1>What was left to negotiate, What were we going to

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<v Speaker 1>expect the Okrainians to offer? In many ways, it was

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<v Speaker 1>much like a Trump deal. I mean, he's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make a deal to buy an apartment, but all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden the apartment was destroyed, So where's the negotiation.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think the use of deception and trickery in

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<v Speaker 1>this case, first of all, was successful. The second of

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<v Speaker 1>all saved the potential loss of American lives.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're back to Liberty Lockdown as Clint Russell, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you fortuning in once again, and I am joined by

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<v Speaker 2>a very special guest as always, Miss Josie the red

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<v Speaker 2>Hit of libertay.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, thank you for having me on your show.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, we did the conversation with the guys, including Sam Tripoli,

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<v Speaker 2>and you and I weren't on at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>so I figured let's have a little deeper conversation about

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<v Speaker 2>some of the topics that were covered. First off, I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to ask you about how you think the I

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<v Speaker 2>know you're not like as hardened to paint crazy anti

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<v Speaker 2>war as I am. You don't focus on geopolitics nearly

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<v Speaker 2>as much as I do. You're more domestic constitutional, border issues,

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<v Speaker 2>things like that, and culture issues.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that we have new access lines being drawn.

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<v Speaker 4>So in the same way we're seeing countries align with

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<v Speaker 4>Iran or align with America or align with Israel, we're

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<v Speaker 4>seeing influencers kind of do the same thing, and they're

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<v Speaker 4>trying to And the thing is President Trump ran on

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<v Speaker 4>a non interventionist policy, so all we're doing is holding

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<v Speaker 4>him accountable to that. And they're trying to say those

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<v Speaker 4>people are fake MAGA. And you take someone like Ohen Shroyer,

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<v Speaker 4>for instance, who's been a major major target at this

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<v Speaker 4>and saying he's fake mag when he's literally gone to

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<v Speaker 4>jail for his beliefs and his support of President Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and not just Owen, but Steve Bannon. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Bannon's been very outspoken, and he literally went to

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<v Speaker 2>jail for an extended period of time because he refused

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<v Speaker 2>to turnover basically the private conversations that he had had

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<v Speaker 2>with Trump before j six. You don't get much more

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<v Speaker 2>loyal than Steve Bannon, And for a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>people to be upset with him is it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you just want war. Like that's my read of things.

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<v Speaker 2>There's all these allegations right that Kataris are paying people

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<v Speaker 2>like you and I to basically want Trump to do

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<v Speaker 2>what he said, which is to not get us in

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<v Speaker 2>another Middle Eastern war, and yet they're accusing us of

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<v Speaker 2>being bought and paid for to do that. Look, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying it's all of them. It's certainly not. But

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<v Speaker 2>I do think that there's a distinct possibility that some

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<v Speaker 2>right wing influencer accounts are in fact being paid, as

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<v Speaker 2>they accuse us of sewing division, to in fact be

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<v Speaker 2>doing that very thing that they are sewing division in

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<v Speaker 2>hopes of basically alienating the Nona Advenus anti war camp,

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<v Speaker 2>the libertarian camp, out of the coalition so that then

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<v Speaker 2>the old school neo con guard can get in there

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<v Speaker 2>at the behest of both Israel and the military dustrial complex.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my gut instinct, in my crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Use your enemy of that which you are guilty accusing

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<v Speaker 4>you and I or I don't know, Sortovich Pozobic of

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<v Speaker 4>being talking heads for Qatar, which also kind of came

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<v Speaker 4>out of nowhere, and it's just it's just not true,

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<v Speaker 4>like I'm not getting paid for that. You're not getting

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<v Speaker 4>paid for that, you know. I'd like, yeah, I work

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<v Speaker 4>for like timcast or something, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he's also not dictating your talking points.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm allowed to have free speech over on IRL

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<v Speaker 4>and when I work for Timcasts, And that's what's so

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<v Speaker 4>great about working there. I can think of other places

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<v Speaker 4>if I got hired there that I wouldn't have those

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<v Speaker 4>speech rights.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmmm, I wonder what space she's talking about. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>would say Daily Wire you probably couldn't do it. The Blaze,

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<v Speaker 2>you probably couldn't do it because despite the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, generally speaking, I like Clembeck when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to Israel, he is not exactly an impartial observer. I

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<v Speaker 2>also find it fascinating. I was obviously in California to

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<v Speaker 2>do freedom Fests. I spoke with Angel McCardel and Bret

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<v Speaker 2>Weinstein on stage. Hopefully I'll be able to get that

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<v Speaker 2>interview out to you guys. But I came back to

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<v Speaker 2>a busted PC soundction issue that took me three days

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<v Speaker 2>to remedy. So I'm back in business now. When I

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<v Speaker 2>the Tucker Carlson versus Ted CRU's showdown, and I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was just spectacular. I thought that Tucker really hammered

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<v Speaker 2>him on so many of the one oh one arguments

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<v Speaker 2>for intervention in why Israel is our greatest ally and

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<v Speaker 2>YadA YadA yah, and I was like, Oh, finally, finally

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<v Speaker 2>someone did it. You know what's really remarkable about Tucker

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<v Speaker 2>is that what he's saying is not that remarkable. That

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<v Speaker 2>it is only remarkable because it's so rare, because there

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<v Speaker 2>is any single fucking journalist in this country hardly that

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<v Speaker 2>asked real questions that goes like, yeah, what does Israel

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<v Speaker 2>do for us? You know, like what intel are you

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<v Speaker 2>functioning off of? How do you know that they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have nukes in a couple of weeks? Journalists just

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<v Speaker 2>never follow up. They just go like, oh, okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go to war.

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<v Speaker 4>I really like the part of that interview where he

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<v Speaker 4>got Ted Cruz to essentially say we are at war

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<v Speaker 4>with Iran and he's like, well, you're breaking news right now, because.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, we're vohminam right now, well not.

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<v Speaker 4>US, but Israel, and like almost like we're giving him

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<v Speaker 4>permission when it's like no, I mean, like, philosophically, we

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<v Speaker 4>support that. And then Ted Cruz was like, you're being

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<v Speaker 4>so smug or something like that, and it's like, no,

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<v Speaker 4>he's just asking you questions that you're not used to

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<v Speaker 2>I did like Tucker's responsor He's like, could you be

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<v Speaker 2>a little less smugg He's like, you're right, I should be.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of my yeah, one of my foibles or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever he said. But yeah, it's it's time, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think that That's been my greatest frustration with

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, maga influencer class. That is, even though

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<v Speaker 2>they would say that they're not you know, Laura lumers

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<v Speaker 2>of the world. As I've said many times, I know her,

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<v Speaker 2>I like her, but Jesus Christ, war is afoot. She

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<v Speaker 2>and I couldn't be more far apart. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's this constant accusations of like us accusing Trump of

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to go to war or him already being at war,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, look, I'm not accusing him of anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the fuck's happening. All I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>is that if you're like an adult human being that

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<v Speaker 2>lived through one through three, which she is. She was young,

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<v Speaker 2>but she lived through You have to remember this, like

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<v Speaker 2>you have to remember the arc that led to the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest catastrophe in foreign policy history in my lifetime at least,

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<v Speaker 2>which was the War on Terror. And it's like, we

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<v Speaker 2>are speed running that, and anybody who lived through that

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<v Speaker 2>knows that we're speed running it. It's all of the similarities,

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<v Speaker 2>all of the hallmarks exist the exact same way. And

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<v Speaker 2>yet if I just go like, hey, I'm seeing some

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<v Speaker 2>to an unnecessary, illegal, unconstitutional, undeclared war again, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>That are your boys aren't going to die in Israel?

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, so we're not going to go to work.

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<v Speaker 4>They're screaming for war at one side of their mouth,

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<v Speaker 4>and then they're saying, well, we're not going to send

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<v Speaker 4>humans there, like we're not gonna have boots on the ground, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>how could you even think that we would even do that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, well, that's because we've done it before. We're

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<v Speaker 4>watching the same playbook.

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<v Speaker 2>We have over twenty years of experience doing exactly that,

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<v Speaker 2>and you that we're panicking to say that we might

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<v Speaker 2>be doing it again. Oh and by the way, it

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<v Speaker 2>happens to be the seventh nation out of a list

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<v Speaker 2>of seven that was detailed by General Wesley. At some

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<v Speaker 2>point you just have to accept the fact that this

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<v Speaker 2>looks like a multi decade plan at the behest of

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<v Speaker 2>another country's foreign policy that is not at the benefit

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<v Speaker 2>of the American people.

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<v Speaker 4>So what happened to each of these countries after they

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<v Speaker 4>were overthrown? So did they essentially get I mean, you

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<v Speaker 4>know more about geopolitics than I do. I've been overthrown

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<v Speaker 4>and then they were regime changed each of them. What's

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<v Speaker 4>the state of these countries on the Wesley Clerk list?

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<v Speaker 2>No, not good. It's Libya, Yemen. They've both been hit hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Iraq Afghanistan toppled entirely. I think it was one of them,

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<v Speaker 2>and we bombed the hell out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was run by gangs for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>And also we were bombing them during that period too.

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<v Speaker 2>Point being and Libya, Libya is the sixth and that's

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<v Speaker 2>a fucking open air slave market. So it's like none

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<v Speaker 2>of them have gone well. So I think that's the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest argument in the invention is Camp's corner, that's like irrefutable.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you had this list of seven nations

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<v Speaker 2>and they were all led I didn't love the leadership

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<v Speaker 2>of most of those countries. Some of them weren't terrible,

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<v Speaker 2>but most of them were not good. But if your

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<v Speaker 2>track record was, Okay, we're going to conquer all these

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<v Speaker 2>countries through an intervention or invasion or bombing campaigns or

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<v Speaker 2>CIA coups, and as a consequence, yeah, democracy broke out,

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<v Speaker 2>peace broke out, everyone stopped fighting, guns stopped shooting, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, okay, well then you know, I'll listen to

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<v Speaker 2>what you have to say about it, Ron, But it's

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<v Speaker 2>like the six other ones were disasters.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think? What is the reason I'm not in.

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<v Speaker 2>The money camp. I think when I was a young libertarian,

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at it that way much more. I definitely

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<v Speaker 2>bought into the what I think is largely a lie,

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<v Speaker 2>honestly at this point that it was about getting the oil.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we got to get the oil from Iraq.

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<v Speaker 2>Halliburton and Blackwater and these other companies. They made a

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<v Speaker 2>fortune in rebuilding. You know, if you want to make

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<v Speaker 2>an argument about the money, the argument is the rebuilding

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<v Speaker 2>money that's where a lot of money is. So you

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<v Speaker 2>rebelize the country and then bring in American contractors to

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<v Speaker 2>build things up. Okay, there's some money being made there,

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt about it. But I think those are like

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<v Speaker 2>campaign donations that are offset by those contracts. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a power play. I think it's about soft power

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<v Speaker 2>brought about through hard power, so you topple a dictator

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<v Speaker 2>that does not do your bidding, does not go along

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<v Speaker 2>with you. But in that region, it's more about what

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<v Speaker 2>Israel wants, in my opinion, and then once you replace

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<v Speaker 2>them with a leadership that's a little bit more amicable,

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<v Speaker 2>or a country that's just so fucked up that they

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<v Speaker 2>can't pose a threat to Israel, it's like, Okay, mission accomplished.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what it's been.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like break your legs and sell you crutches.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah kind of. And I think the other thing that

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<v Speaker 2>really drives me nuts is that to paint it as humanitarian.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, ugh, you don't give I mean, come on, like,

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<v Speaker 2>does anyone after twenty plus years of bombing and sanctioned

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<v Speaker 2>regimes and starving and all this just madness? Can anyone

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<v Speaker 2>look at that and go like, Oh, it's clear to

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<v Speaker 2>not clear that they don't care about these people that

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<v Speaker 2>they're obviously collateral damage in war of conquest.

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<v Speaker 4>During COVID overthrowing of leadership of countries that weren't compliant

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<v Speaker 4>with Big Pharma. I think there were three to five

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<v Speaker 3>The shot they came up with it. Baxteroris like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>It was totally unrelated assassination that happened during COVID, and

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<v Speaker 4>nobody really noticed because we were all distracted by COVID.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I know that there was some overthrows in civil

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<v Speaker 2>if Haiti is not known for having revolutions anyways. It

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<v Speaker 2>could just be coincidental. It could be the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>the economy was fucked up and there's lockdowns and therefore

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<v Speaker 2>if Haiti had lockdowns, to be honest, but yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 2>just a lot of manipulation of the masses in a

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<v Speaker 2>when I was younger breaking news.

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<v Speaker 4>What happened According to the Washington Post, b two bombers

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<v Speaker 4>fly across Spacific as Trump contemplates Iran strike, and the

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<v Speaker 4>lead headline that popped down for me said, there's been

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<v Speaker 4>three American strikes on Iran nuclear facilities.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're bombing Iran.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I just want to read it real quick. What

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<v Speaker 4>That was the headline. That's what grabbed me. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 4>you saw my face, but I'm reading through it now

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<v Speaker 4>just to make sure that they weren't just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they're saying, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So it looks like when they wrote the article they

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<v Speaker 4>were flying across That was hours ago, yep. And now

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<v Speaker 4>that's been updated to say that they're bombing.

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<v Speaker 3>Happy World War three? Everybody that sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. You know it's funny too, because what is it? Saturday?

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<v Speaker 2>It's Saturday, right, Saturday? Yeah, I said, I told people

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<v Speaker 2>a day but that was like just reading the tea leaves.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, this is why is it really Republican panic?

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<v Speaker 3>That's the That's what it is. It's so corny.

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<v Speaker 4>They think it's way too It's just a nickname, and

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<v Speaker 4>they're so bad at nicknames because the neocons, like the left,

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<v Speaker 4>cannot mean. So I'm trying to vet that right now. No,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't trust the Washington Post.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be all over X if you want to. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so bombed. This is point that I'm sure everyone in

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<v Speaker 2>my audience is capable of making, but I got to

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<v Speaker 4>Anyways, it's a confirmed Donald Trump announced it. Want me

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<v Speaker 4>to read this sure from Donald Trump on truth. We

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<v Speaker 4>have completed our very successful attack on three nuclear sites

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<v Speaker 4>in Iran, including four dough Nantes, Nantance and.

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<v Speaker 3>What the fuck.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, all planes are now outside of Iran airspace. A

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<v Speaker 4>full payload of bombs was dropped on the primary site, Pordoh.

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<v Speaker 4>All planes are safely on their way home. Congratulations to

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<v Speaker 4>our great American warriors. There is not another military in

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<v Speaker 4>the world that could have done this. Now is the

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<v Speaker 4>time for peace. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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<v Speaker 4>That was an act of war. No kidding, and there

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<v Speaker 4>will be retribution onto America. It'll likely be our military sites.

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<v Speaker 4>No one's saying that there are not sleeper cells in

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<v Speaker 4>America that they could activate right now because that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've always believed that if there were sleeper cell,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, Laura Lumer claims there's two million potections,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's some. I'm just saying if they had

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<v Speaker 2>were like really ready to just strap on vests and

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<v Speaker 2>go ballistic, you would see some of that during the

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<v Speaker 2>war in Gaza, because there's so much anger at America

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<v Speaker 2>for supporting Israel during that process. So the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>we haven't makes me feel like it's largely overblown, that

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<v Speaker 2>it's largely you know, right wing propaganda like that. It's

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<v Speaker 2>funny too that they always bring it up, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>like that's panicin' if you will. But yeah, there's I

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<v Speaker 2>think that the real danger. And this is the point

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<v Speaker 2>that I kept trying to make to Laura lomer Is.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to be friendly about it, but still

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<v Speaker 2>very frustrated. She kept saying, you know, what is the

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<v Speaker 2>fucking big deal? Like, look, Laura if you bomb another

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<v Speaker 2>country and they're not just a total bitch about it,

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna respond. And guess what. Iran unfortunately has stationed

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<v Speaker 2>their country directly next to dozens of American military bases. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. What I meant to say was that America

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<v Speaker 2>station dozens of military bases all around Iran, as we've

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<v Speaker 2>done with China and other countries in Russia, they have

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<v Speaker 2>within their reach. As you know, Dave Smith always says

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<v Speaker 2>they can touch us. We don't have escalation dominance, and

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<v Speaker 2>therefore it's almost undoubted that they're going to fucking respond.

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<v Speaker 2>And if an American soldier gets killed, which probably will happen,

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<v Speaker 2>then we're at war.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's an active war.

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<v Speaker 4>And I've tried to explain this and they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>it's different because Iran is a terrorist state and America

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<v Speaker 4>is a superpower. So if they bombed our nuclear facilities

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<v Speaker 4>then that would be an act of war because we're

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<v Speaker 4>bigger than them. But if we bomb their's, they're terrorists,

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<v Speaker 4>and so it's different. Right, I'm like this, there's no

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<v Speaker 4>logic behind this.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you try and hold an equal moral standard

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<v Speaker 2>to both sides, they accuse you of moral relativism, which

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<v Speaker 2>is so bizarre because it's like, no, I'm actually trying

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<v Speaker 2>to apply the same morality to both sides, not to

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<v Speaker 2>say that we're both equally bad or good or anything

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<v Speaker 2>like that. I'm just saying, is there a standard that

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<v Speaker 2>we can actually evaluate this who is the aggressor? Who

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<v Speaker 2>is behaving in a moral fashion? Like is it a

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<v Speaker 2>moral to bomb kids? Or isn't it like because I

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<v Speaker 2>would say it is always it's very amral to bomb kids,

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<v Speaker 2>but it does seem as if like it's it's almost

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<v Speaker 2>certainly going to be a city. Like we've already seen

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<v Speaker 2>Iron's response against Israel. I don't think that they can

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<v Speaker 2>allow for this to happen without without striking American basis.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I could be wrong, and I hope I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>I really do. I hope that they just go, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>you've destroyed our nuclear facilities, uncle mercy. But like, if

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<v Speaker 2>they do that, they're at Israel's mercy for the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of their existence. They'll never be able to defend themselves ever.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I was just thinking, we don't see each

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<v Speaker 4>other very often, but every time we do, there's enormous news.

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<v Speaker 4>When Donald Trump got shot we just happened to be

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<v Speaker 4>in Vegas and now we're doing this interview and world

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<v Speaker 4>War three starts go kind of jinx is this client?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me explain I think most people know this too.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me explain kind of the alliance and why a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people think that, like it's fearmongering to say

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<v Speaker 2>that this might be amount to World War three, But like,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to understand that Russia has been at war

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<v Speaker 2>with Ukraine via our proxy, which is Ukraine. Russia and

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<v Speaker 2>Iran are extremely close allies. Syria was their ally, it's

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<v Speaker 2>already gone. Russia has obviously been in this war for years,

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<v Speaker 2>so they feel very much under threat as well. They

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<v Speaker 2>cannot see the rather big ally in the Middle East

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<v Speaker 2>go down without a fight. So unless they make a

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<v Speaker 2>deal with Trump and they're like, all right, we're now

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<v Speaker 2>members of the West. But does anybody see that happening?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. So basically, we're now in a position where

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<v Speaker 2>Putin is going to feel in my opinion, I could

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<v Speaker 2>be wrong, but it looks highly likely that he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to feel as if we have to defend a Ron.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, it feels to me like Iran as Russia is

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<v Speaker 4>Israel Essentially, they always felt like, We're going to take

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<v Speaker 4>care of this little country. It's the way that America

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<v Speaker 4>treats Israel, even though I feel like there's more of

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<v Speaker 4>But it's like we're always going to have your back,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's how it's always felt to me with Russia

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<v Speaker 4>and Iran. So and now we sort of came at

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<v Speaker 4>Putin and now we have another superpower that we're dealing with.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not dealing with the small terrorist state that's on

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<v Speaker 4>its knees. As Ted Cruz said, well, everybody else is saying,

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<v Speaker 4>it's the biggest threat in the world. The thing about

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<v Speaker 4>the neocons, they really have to get on the same

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<v Speaker 4>page and have one unified message.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd think, but they don't actually because they can pivot

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<v Speaker 2>from There was comparisons of Saddam Hussein to Hitler. I remember,

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<v Speaker 2>you know Putin, also Hitler, you know Supreme Leader. Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>Hitler is Jijinping certainly Hitler. It's like they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>have to pick one because they just apply the same

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<v Speaker 2>fucking script to the same to whatever country they want,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever country is in their crosshairs at any given moment,

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<v Speaker 2>and there will always be about a third of America

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<v Speaker 2>that just goes like yep bomb.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what's interesting about that, it's the same way.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know they're always accuse your enemy of

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<v Speaker 4>that which you're guilty. So well, write what do the

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<v Speaker 4>Marxists do? They take one thing and they take the

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<v Speaker 4>same storyline and they apply it to the one thing.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, it's like blm, how do we get

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<v Speaker 4>black people to be in power?

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<v Speaker 3>Again?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we got to abolish the family of religion, nations, orders, truth,

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<v Speaker 4>and how do we overthrow the banks and the capitalists.

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<v Speaker 4>We got to overthrow family and religion and history and truth.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all the same script, and that's what they do.

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<v Speaker 4>They're like, well, we got to do this because that's Hitler.

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<v Speaker 4>Well we got to overthrow this country because it's Hitler.

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<v Speaker 2>And as you probably are aware, the root ideology of

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<v Speaker 2>neo conservatism gets its rise from Bolshevism. So it's like

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<v Speaker 2>it's not really a quindence. I know a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people would think like, oh, you think the woke and

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<v Speaker 2>the neo cons are like the same. It's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they can't. Actually they are in a lot a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of ways, like profound deep ways.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of Bolsheviks, isn't it interesting that we are kind

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<v Speaker 4>of force fed.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, trotzkyes, I said, Bolsheviks ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, we're kind of force fed Hitler and killing the Jews,

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<v Speaker 4>but we're not taught about the Bolshevik resolution at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's weird. Why is that? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, given the news that just broke, it's just one

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<v Speaker 2>of those things that, like you either laugh about it

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit or you cry. I don't think anyone's

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<v Speaker 2>gone any harder than I have against this, I really,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I was lamenting this last night on X

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<v Speaker 2>to Justin Imash because he was saying, there's a reason

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<v Speaker 2>that I rarely endorse other politicians, And he's like, the

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<v Speaker 2>reason is because I've almost never known anybody that went

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<v Speaker 2>to DC and actually maintained their principles, their values, did

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<v Speaker 3>Promised Thomas Massey and that's about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and ran to an extent. For sure, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>he would give those guys a pass, or he would

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<v Speaker 2>probably endorse them if they needed it, which they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think for me, what I've struggled with most

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<v Speaker 2>about this presidency is that this was the first time

421
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<v Speaker 2>I really felt as if I didn't know, but I

422
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<v Speaker 2>had a vibe. I had a feel for Tulsi you,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you've interviewed her too. I had a vibe

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<v Speaker 2>certainly for Cash Mattel. I spent a couple hours with

425
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<v Speaker 2>the guy and talk to him at length. RFK Junior,

426
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<v Speaker 2>I've met Trump. I didn't meet, but you know, we

427
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<v Speaker 2>were at the same event. And then the vague obviously

428
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<v Speaker 2>elon who you know to a certain extent. And it's like,

429
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<v Speaker 2>I've never felt as if I had any any sense

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<v Speaker 2>of the moral character, the internal drives of these of

431
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<v Speaker 2>any other White House ever. I just felt as if

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<v Speaker 2>like this was our best chance of having an administration

433
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<v Speaker 2>that we could influence to do a little bit of good,

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<v Speaker 2>just a little bit. And it's like, if we end

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<v Speaker 2>up in a fucking I mean, if we end up

436
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<v Speaker 2>in a full on war with Iron, which looks likely,

437
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<v Speaker 2>if we end up in World War three, well then

438
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<v Speaker 2>I made a huge fucking mistake. I made a huge

439
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<v Speaker 2>fucking no.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>In fairness absolutely got to happen with a Kamala Harris obviously,

442
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<v Speaker 2>but I really thought that Trump would try and avoid this, and.

443
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<v Speaker 4>He is not because we know Kamala Harris is more

444
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<v Speaker 4>of a communist than a neocon.

445
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<v Speaker 2>So but as we just described, there's some same roots.

446
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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, so I think we would have probably gone in,

447
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<v Speaker 4>but it would have been a different angle.

448
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<v Speaker 2>I think it would have just been Ukraine. I think

449
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<v Speaker 2>it would have been Ukraine. I think we would escalated

450
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<v Speaker 2>heavy in Ukraine. This just happened. It is a bombing campaign.

451
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<v Speaker 2>It does not mean necessarily that Iron will respond. They

452
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<v Speaker 2>may just eat it. They might, but if they respond,

453
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<v Speaker 2>and if they kill any quantity of American troops, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you know as well as I do that we're

455
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<v Speaker 2>in a football and war.

456
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<v Speaker 4>This is I mean, I'm a libertarian, so most of

457
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<v Speaker 4>my followers are pretty like small l like I am.

458
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<v Speaker 4>I have a lot of Massy and Ram Paul and

459
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<v Speaker 4>Ron Paul disciples. But I shared this post about Trump

460
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<v Speaker 4>and I wrote, pray for our troops. There will be retribution,

461
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<v Speaker 4>and the comments are like, no ground troops planes are

462
00:22:04.839 --> 00:22:08.480
<v Speaker 4>almost home. I smell success. It's like, yeah, now you

463
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<v Speaker 4>smell success, But what you're gonna smell when they you

464
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<v Speaker 4>think they're just gonna get on their knees.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think people understand the nature of the dynamic

466
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<v Speaker 2>here now that, as I've said many times, that does

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<v Speaker 2>not mean that Iran will not just eat this. They

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<v Speaker 2>may say, look, if we fucking strike American troops in

469
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<v Speaker 2>the region, which we have, they have full capacity to do.

470
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<v Speaker 2>So that's a fact that they absolutely could if they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to. There is a chance, given that America is

472
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<v Speaker 2>still very powerful militaristically, that they just go, We're not

473
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<v Speaker 2>going to do it once you've already committed to bombing Israel,

474
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<v Speaker 2>which if it's accurate that Israel has two hundred nuclear

475
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<v Speaker 2>warheads and obvious capacity to reach around with them where

476
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<v Speaker 2>it's like this is kind of a point of no return.

477
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<v Speaker 2>And if they feel that way, if they feel as

478
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<v Speaker 2>if they cannot just stop, if they feel as if

479
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<v Speaker 2>if they stop, Israel is going to come in and

480
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<v Speaker 2>take them out anyways, then they're not going to stop,

481
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<v Speaker 2>and they are going to escalate, and they're going to

482
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<v Speaker 2>try and get Russia and China involved on their side,

483
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<v Speaker 2>and if that happens, then we are fully in World

484
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<v Speaker 2>War three. And I don't think anybody understands really how

485
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<v Speaker 2>fucking insanely dangerous all this is.

486
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<v Speaker 3>Let's get canceled and talk about greater Israel.

487
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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, yeah, I mean there have been plans that

488
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<v Speaker 2>have been talked about openly, including a map that Netanyahu

489
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<v Speaker 2>showed before October seventh that included, you know, West Bank, Gaza,

490
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<v Speaker 2>portions of I think it was Turkey, portions of Iran,

491
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<v Speaker 2>portions of Syria that all become part of greater Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>Excellent. So what's the overlap with the Wesley Clark prediction

493
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<v Speaker 3>and great it.

494
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<v Speaker 2>Happens to be like two thirds of them?

495
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<v Speaker 3>Interesting? This is very fascinating.

496
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<v Speaker 2>We're learning together. I mean, this is this is why

497
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<v Speaker 2>I came to the conclusions I have. It's not like

498
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<v Speaker 2>I'm just fucking making it up. I just know what

499
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<v Speaker 2>this list said, and you guys are taking them. You're

500
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<v Speaker 2>doing it. So what's your what's your your bet? Does

501
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<v Speaker 2>Iran respond heavily?

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<v Speaker 4>I think Aronald Bama base, I don't think they'll activate

503
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<v Speaker 4>a sleeper cell. I think they probably have. They're two disorganized.

504
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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure there are sleeper cells. We have like twenty

505
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<v Speaker 4>million illegal people in our country and they're unvetted, and

506
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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure that they're sleeper cells. I feel like we've

507
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<v Speaker 4>had one or two activate on a very very small scale,

508
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<v Speaker 4>or try to in the last four years.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, if you want to go down the really

510
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<v Speaker 2>dark path, Alex Jones and others, you know, people that

511
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<v Speaker 2>I generally respect, have been beaten this strum for a

512
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<v Speaker 2>long time that there are you know, there's sleeper cells.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't really talk about Iran all that often. It

514
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<v Speaker 2>was sometimes it was like Muslim terrace, but oftentimes it

515
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<v Speaker 2>was like CCP. And my great fear is that if

516
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<v Speaker 2>that's true, which I just as I already said earlier,

517
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<v Speaker 2>I am not convinced that it's true that there's thousands

518
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<v Speaker 2>of thousands of sleeper cells, if you end up in

519
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<v Speaker 2>World War three, it's not going to be like Iraq

520
00:24:57.119 --> 00:24:59.759
<v Speaker 2>war Persian golf type shit. It's going to be fucking

521
00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:04.559
<v Speaker 2>chaos here. And we've never dealt with that, like, not

522
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<v Speaker 2>since Pearl Harbor. And even then we didn't really feel

523
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<v Speaker 2>with like deal with war on our soil. It was

524
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<v Speaker 2>just like one attack and then it was war over

525
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<v Speaker 2>there the entire time. So that's my great fear, man

526
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<v Speaker 2>given given our cultural divide, like the racial divide, all

527
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<v Speaker 2>these other things that have been you know, worsened because

528
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<v Speaker 2>of cultural Marxism, like, we're not going to handle that, Like,

529
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<v Speaker 2>if we have war on our soil, we're going to

530
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<v Speaker 2>fall apart.

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<v Speaker 4>They're going to attack the power grid. I don't think

532
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<v Speaker 4>they need thousands. I think they need just a few

533
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<v Speaker 4>guys willing, like you said, to just strap a vest

534
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<v Speaker 4>on and go for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Pearl Harbor. I believe was unsolicited.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe that just kind of I mean, America hadn't

537
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<v Speaker 4>declared war at that point. It kind of the attack

538
00:25:46.160 --> 00:25:49.519
<v Speaker 4>kind of just happened, kind of an unsolicited attack. No,

539
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<v Speaker 4>did America drop a bomb before, Okay.

540
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<v Speaker 2>But what we did do is that we you know,

541
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<v Speaker 2>Japan's and island, and we put a full oil embargo

542
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<v Speaker 2>on them.

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<v Speaker 1>Mmm.

544
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<v Speaker 2>We basically gave them no option. If you're in a

545
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<v Speaker 2>war and another country says you're not allowed to have

546
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<v Speaker 2>any oil, how would you respond to that? You go like, oh,

547
00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:12.240
<v Speaker 2>we're at war then, like obviously we're at war. So, yes,

548
00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:15.039
<v Speaker 2>it was a sneak attack. Do you think that Japan,

549
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<v Speaker 2>this tiny little island, was like, yeah, we really want

550
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<v Speaker 2>to fight America, Like no.

551
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<v Speaker 3>That's why they fought a tiny little island.

552
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So yeah, that story is a little bit complex,

553
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<v Speaker 2>but anyways, you were going to make a point to

554
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<v Speaker 2>try and connect that to this situation. So what was

555
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<v Speaker 2>the point?

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<v Speaker 4>I was going in a direction, but then I had

557
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<v Speaker 4>a question, and then my brain that's.

558
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<v Speaker 2>Fair that happens. I'm kind of scatterbrained as a consequence

559
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<v Speaker 2>of this breaking news because I haven't had time to

560
00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:40.119
<v Speaker 2>internalize what it could mean. So, I mean, you guys

561
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<v Speaker 2>are getting to watch my real time reaction to what

562
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<v Speaker 2>comes next, and it's not good.

563
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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm really glad my live reaction when Trump got

564
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<v Speaker 4>shot was not recorded.

565
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<v Speaker 3>I started crying.

566
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<v Speaker 2>She did, I was there, we were I had just

567
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<v Speaker 2>this was actually to tie back into the other story

568
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<v Speaker 2>that was right after I had done the panel with

569
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<v Speaker 2>Cash butt Well, and then Trump's face was grazed by a.

570
00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:04.920
<v Speaker 4>Bullet and I'm just like, I just started crying and

571
00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:07.759
<v Speaker 4>Clint's like, are you okay? What's the matter, And I'm like,

572
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:09.680
<v Speaker 4>I have no idea. I don't know why I'm doing this.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just the strangest reaction to me. It was

574
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<v Speaker 4>just such massive news. But I'm handling World War three

575
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<v Speaker 4>pretty well.

576
00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:18.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you are, actually hand You're handling World War three

577
00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:21.119
<v Speaker 2>much better than you handled Trump almost getting.

578
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<v Speaker 4>Shot, but I hadn't endorsed Trump or anything at that point.

579
00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:25.799
<v Speaker 4>I was still on the fence. I endorsed him that night.

580
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<v Speaker 2>No, you posted it that night, I remember, but yeah,

581
00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:29.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean that was concerning. And those are the type

582
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<v Speaker 2>of moments, like just history changing moments, you know, like

583
00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:35.200
<v Speaker 2>if you see a president assassinated, the course of your

584
00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:37.880
<v Speaker 2>country changes. Like even from a libertarian perspective, you don't

585
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:39.559
<v Speaker 2>have to like it. You don't have to respect the

586
00:27:39.559 --> 00:27:41.480
<v Speaker 2>presidency or the White House or the government or any

587
00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:44.519
<v Speaker 2>of that. It just changes history. It does because a

588
00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:46.079
<v Speaker 2>lot of people do believe in the government, they do

589
00:27:46.119 --> 00:27:48.960
<v Speaker 2>believe in the authority of the president everything else. And like,

590
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:51.680
<v Speaker 2>if that happens, it just totally takes whatever course you're on,

591
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<v Speaker 2>and it puts it on a new one. Whether it's

592
00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:55.920
<v Speaker 2>good or bad, it's new. This is a course changer that,

593
00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:01.240
<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, derails Trump's lay legacy. Unless he get

594
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<v Speaker 2>unless he just buy a miracle, Uran just goes, We're done.

595
00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:09.920
<v Speaker 2>If that doesn't happen, this ruins Trump's legacy. It ruins

596
00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:12.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you what, I honestly think. I think that

597
00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:16.319
<v Speaker 2>this destroys America. First, Maga, It's over. It will be

598
00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:19.240
<v Speaker 2>a complete civil war. I don't mean that in actual

599
00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:22.160
<v Speaker 2>fighting per se, but it'll be a civil war divide

600
00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:26.119
<v Speaker 2>between the Maga America first. You'll have the Trump sick

601
00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:28.480
<v Speaker 2>offense you can do no wrong, and you'll have the

602
00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:31.519
<v Speaker 2>actual America first, people that meant it when they said it,

603
00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:32.440
<v Speaker 2>no more wars.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the next forty eight hours are going to be

605
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:37.119
<v Speaker 4>really telling, really crucial, and I warn everybody there's going

606
00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:38.960
<v Speaker 4>to be fog of war, which is just used.

607
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<v Speaker 2>It's not going to be we're in it right now.

608
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we don't know anything that's happening right now.

609
00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:44.839
<v Speaker 2>For sure. The propaganda's going to get heavier.

610
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<v Speaker 4>It's going to get very heavy, and you just have

611
00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:49.440
<v Speaker 4>to use discernment everything that you hear. There's going to

612
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<v Speaker 4>be a lot out of Israel. The Israel channels are

613
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<v Speaker 4>the biggest pushers of the propaganda. Also mainstream media they

614
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:58.000
<v Speaker 4>don't really love this war. The mainstream media. They're a

615
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<v Speaker 4>different kind of neocon that they don't really love the

616
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<v Speaker 4>defense of Israel.

617
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<v Speaker 3>They're not the Republican neo konos.

618
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<v Speaker 2>Fox News has been being the.

619
00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:06.799
<v Speaker 3>One Fox News. I'm talking MSNBC.

620
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<v Speaker 2>Well because they always have to paint it as Trump

621
00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:10.599
<v Speaker 2>being the bad guy no matter what. But I'll tell

622
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<v Speaker 2>you I would be surprised, particularly if American troops get

623
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:19.920
<v Speaker 2>hit in response, which is probable. I bet you CNN, MSNBC,

624
00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:22.279
<v Speaker 2>MSNBC they all get behind Trump. I know that sounds

625
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:24.559
<v Speaker 2>crazy and people won't even believe me when I say it,

626
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<v Speaker 2>but I'd be surprised. Not all of them, but a

627
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<v Speaker 2>big chunk of them are going to start to say, like, God,

628
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<v Speaker 2>you know, defend our country.

629
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<v Speaker 3>Once we're at war. We need the unified front.

630
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<v Speaker 4>And the thing is that people that own the news stations,

631
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<v Speaker 4>whoever owns the information, they know that we need a

632
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<v Speaker 4>unified front behind a war.

633
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<v Speaker 2>That we are You're barely old enough to remember, but

634
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<v Speaker 2>I know you remember a little bit. Was the feeling

635
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<v Speaker 2>after nine to eleven, Yes, And it's like there has

636
00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:54.960
<v Speaker 2>never been a high or high in terms of in

637
00:29:55.000 --> 00:30:00.960
<v Speaker 2>my lifetime, in terms of patriotism, bloodless, like let's get vengeance,

638
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:04.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, and none of that exists right now. So

639
00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:07.799
<v Speaker 2>we are entering into the biggest war. Ran is a

640
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:10.799
<v Speaker 2>bigger foe than any other war that we've ever been

641
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:13.799
<v Speaker 2>in hot because Russia is a proxy war still no,

642
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<v Speaker 2>hopefully that says that way. Yes, this is the biggest

643
00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:17.960
<v Speaker 2>foe we've ever taken on, and we are entering it

644
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:21.440
<v Speaker 2>with the least public support for a war in my lifetime.

645
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:23.880
<v Speaker 2>That's fucking crazy. They just stopped caring what we have

646
00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:24.279
<v Speaker 2>to say.

647
00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:27.079
<v Speaker 4>And there was a vigil and I'm talking Massachusetts. This

648
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:29.200
<v Speaker 4>is where and I mean this area that I grew

649
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:32.440
<v Speaker 4>up in. They are hippies. They are the lesbian, liberal

650
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:36.960
<v Speaker 4>hippie farmers, Okay, And they were having this vigil in

651
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:41.160
<v Speaker 4>the street and everybody was singing God bless America and

652
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:45.640
<v Speaker 4>just America, the beautiful and I'm talking these are the

653
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:50.039
<v Speaker 4>people who who cry and gag when you say Donald

654
00:30:50.039 --> 00:30:53.680
<v Speaker 4>Trump and I think America is racist and all that.

655
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:55.920
<v Speaker 4>It was after nine to eleven, the day after nine

656
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<v Speaker 4>to eleven. This is the feeling that there was in

657
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:02.759
<v Speaker 4>the most liberal area of the most liberal state.

658
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:06.000
<v Speaker 2>And that was a nationwide sensation. I mean it was

659
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:11.240
<v Speaker 2>obviously New York was not some big George Bush country,

660
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:13.839
<v Speaker 2>and they were. They couldn't have been more behind it.

661
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:17.839
<v Speaker 2>Everybody was behind it. And you know, I wasn't behind

662
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:20.920
<v Speaker 2>the broader war on terror, but I certainly in the

663
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:24.160
<v Speaker 2>immediate aftermath was like, whoever did that has to pay,

664
00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:27.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, because even from a libertarian perspective, like, yeah,

665
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:29.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm not interventionist, but that doesn't mean I don't believe

666
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:31.519
<v Speaker 2>in self defense not aggression, right, and we had been

667
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:35.000
<v Speaker 2>aggressed upon. Now the story complicates once you start to

668
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:37.480
<v Speaker 2>like really dig into who was involved with all that,

669
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Like all right, maybe I don't know did we've res

670
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:43.000
<v Speaker 2>upon ourselves? But you know what I'm saying, It was

671
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:47.400
<v Speaker 2>like anyways, point being to contrast that period to this period,

672
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:51.079
<v Speaker 2>it couldn't be more different. You had I don't know

673
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:52.839
<v Speaker 2>what the numbers were, but I would imagine it was

674
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:55.519
<v Speaker 2>eighty to ninety percent people that were in support of

675
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:58.119
<v Speaker 2>like just go blow up something, you know, they were

676
00:31:58.119 --> 00:32:00.880
<v Speaker 2>like get them yep. And that's not how we feel

677
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:01.200
<v Speaker 2>right now.

678
00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:02.119
<v Speaker 3>And I mean a lot of it.

679
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:05.599
<v Speaker 4>We were in high school, so we were at an

680
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:08.680
<v Speaker 4>age where they say the millennials of zennials or whatever,

681
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:12.160
<v Speaker 4>like we're watching World War threefold and we also watched

682
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:15.440
<v Speaker 4>the towers fall from math class in the Great Recession

683
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:17.440
<v Speaker 4>while we're trying to buy a house. Yeah, we're trying

684
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:21.920
<v Speaker 4>to raise kids during COVID. I mean the we Millennials

685
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:24.400
<v Speaker 4>get a lot of shit, but we've been.

686
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Through a lot of shit.

687
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:28.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been hard, man, it's been hard. And honestly though,

688
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:30.680
<v Speaker 2>like you know, zoomers also get a lot of shit,

689
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:32.559
<v Speaker 2>and I've got a lot of sympathy for them because,

690
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:36.640
<v Speaker 2>like everything we've gone through to a certain extent, they've

691
00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:39.319
<v Speaker 2>gone through. They were like younger, so they didn't they've

692
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:41.480
<v Speaker 2>not felt it as poignantly. But then they also had

693
00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:46.000
<v Speaker 2>like the social media, online dating, and then also like

694
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:51.799
<v Speaker 2>the hard woke education and the progress sexual progressivism. I'm like,

695
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:54.400
<v Speaker 2>this is where I start to lean into, like, yeah,

696
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:57.000
<v Speaker 2>this is fucking psychological warfare. And it makes you wonder

697
00:32:57.319 --> 00:32:59.079
<v Speaker 2>if we've been in World War three for a long time.

698
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:02.440
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I wouldn't be surprised because the warfare that

699
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:05.400
<v Speaker 4>we're getting is on the internet, you know, so it's

700
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:07.960
<v Speaker 4>like an information warfare. So we have been at World

701
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.640
<v Speaker 4>War three because we've had China or whatever changing the

702
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:13.880
<v Speaker 4>algo on TikTok so that the kids, their kids in

703
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:16.640
<v Speaker 4>China if they can't use TikTok, but when they could,

704
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:20.839
<v Speaker 4>they would have like math lessons, yeah, and things to

705
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:21.720
<v Speaker 4>make them smarter.

706
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:24.079
<v Speaker 2>School lessons and things like that. I think that it

707
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:26.440
<v Speaker 2>could be just a product of cultural differences that young

708
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:29.920
<v Speaker 2>people in China are just raised to be like good,

709
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:33.279
<v Speaker 2>productive people, kind of how older generations in America were,

710
00:33:33.799 --> 00:33:38.000
<v Speaker 2>And perhaps the algorithm is just a product of we

711
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:40.000
<v Speaker 2>show you what you want to see, and they wanted

712
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:41.799
<v Speaker 2>to see that, or their parents don't allow them to

713
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:44.079
<v Speaker 2>see the other stuff, and they just respect their parents

714
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:45.960
<v Speaker 2>so they don't do it. I could be wrong, though,

715
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:48.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it could certainly be psychological warfare, and it's

716
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:52.319
<v Speaker 2>undoubtedly true that American social media companies do that to foreign

717
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:53.960
<v Speaker 2>countries at the best of the CIA and things like

718
00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:54.319
<v Speaker 2>that too.

719
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:56.519
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it's probably a mix of we're going to

720
00:33:56.599 --> 00:33:58.119
<v Speaker 4>keep raising our children this way and this is all

721
00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:00.480
<v Speaker 4>our children can say because we are a communist eight.

722
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:03.319
<v Speaker 2>Right, But you know, I think the unfortunate reality is

723
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:06.960
<v Speaker 2>too like if a if a country is filled with

724
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:10.679
<v Speaker 2>children that want brain rot content, are you doing anything wrong?

725
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Because like from a purely American lase a fair capitalist model,

726
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>you should just like the ilgo ought to be giving

727
00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:19.679
<v Speaker 2>you what you want to see that keeps you on

728
00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:22.360
<v Speaker 2>the app longer. So if you're the type of person

729
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:25.920
<v Speaker 2>that wants terrible things to be filling your brain. Well,

730
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:27.920
<v Speaker 2>then you get what you asked for, you know.

731
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:30.760
<v Speaker 4>And that goes back to American culture, like parents raising

732
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:32.639
<v Speaker 4>kids to want to see the terrible things their parents

733
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:34.599
<v Speaker 4>barely raising kids. Kids really are raising themselves.

734
00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:36.480
<v Speaker 2>That's the problem in my opinion, that's the big problem.

735
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:39.039
<v Speaker 2>And you're a very attentive parent, so you can speak

736
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:41.159
<v Speaker 2>to this better than I can. But I know, you know,

737
00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:43.000
<v Speaker 2>I was a latch key kid, you know, to a

738
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:45.280
<v Speaker 2>large extent, and you know, some people would say that

739
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:48.320
<v Speaker 2>means that you're raising yourself, but like, I wasn't raising myself.

740
00:34:48.360 --> 00:34:51.960
<v Speaker 2>With the Internet, I was like almost a professional roleerplayer.

741
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:54.360
<v Speaker 2>But I was really good at it. I actually dropped

742
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:56.360
<v Speaker 2>into the bowl at the Carlsbad skate Park with Tony

743
00:34:56.400 --> 00:34:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Hawk when I was nine years old. Wow, yeah, it

744
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:03.159
<v Speaker 2>was very good. Anyways, setting that aside, I'm gay. This

745
00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:05.840
<v Speaker 2>is fully out of the closet now. But what I

746
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:07.960
<v Speaker 2>mean is I was raising myself, but I was doing

747
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:13.199
<v Speaker 2>like you were developing your self endeavors and athletic endeavors,

748
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:17.000
<v Speaker 2>and I had real friends, and like, it just doesn't

749
00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:19.119
<v Speaker 2>seem like the kids raising themselves today are doing that.

750
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Like they're raising themselves on a laptop or an iPad,

751
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:24.440
<v Speaker 2>and it's like that isn't good.

752
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:28.119
<v Speaker 4>Yep, because they're getting so we might get our influence

753
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:29.719
<v Speaker 4>when we were kids. We might have got it from

754
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:32.199
<v Speaker 4>our friends or maybe an uncle or an aunt that

755
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:34.280
<v Speaker 4>we would go see when our mom wasn't home because

756
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:36.320
<v Speaker 4>we were latch key kids, and she'd be home for dinner.

757
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:38.039
<v Speaker 4>You know, if we go out and play, we come

758
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:39.719
<v Speaker 4>home when the street lights came on. It was just

759
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:43.280
<v Speaker 4>the way that our world worked, or my world worked anyway.

760
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:45.039
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to make any assumptions about you, but

761
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:47.519
<v Speaker 4>you know, I'd still have my mom, She'd still be

762
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:50.079
<v Speaker 4>in the house. I wasn't raising myself in that sense.

763
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:54.119
<v Speaker 4>I was able to develop myself and make bad choices

764
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:56.360
<v Speaker 4>that I learned from and make good choices that I

765
00:35:56.440 --> 00:35:58.920
<v Speaker 4>learned from. Right now, we have a lot of work

766
00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:00.960
<v Speaker 4>from home. I'm very less to be able to do that.

767
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:04.679
<v Speaker 4>And I have great kids, great kids, you know, And

768
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:06.400
<v Speaker 4>I know a lot of parents say that, but I

769
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:10.280
<v Speaker 4>actually do. They're not raising themselves on the internet. They

770
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:13.239
<v Speaker 4>play outside, they go for bike rides, they play sports,

771
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:15.760
<v Speaker 4>and they do clubs and all the things that kids

772
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:16.400
<v Speaker 4>should be doing.

773
00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:20.199
<v Speaker 2>Basically being raised in the same style that we were exactly.

774
00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:22.960
<v Speaker 4>Yes, my oldest daughter has a Discord and she only

775
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:25.000
<v Speaker 4>talks to her friends from school on it. I'm guilty

776
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:27.039
<v Speaker 4>of the weird chatrooms. I was in the Will Smith

777
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:30.079
<v Speaker 4>chatroom growing up. That was my favorite chat room. It

778
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:31.800
<v Speaker 4>was just on his website, Willsmith dot com and he

779
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:33.239
<v Speaker 4>had a chat room. So I would go hang out

780
00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:35.039
<v Speaker 4>in the Will Smith chatroom and I thought it was

781
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:37.679
<v Speaker 4>so cool. So AOL is where we would talk to

782
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:40.119
<v Speaker 4>our friends, you know, on that we knew in real life.

783
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:41.599
<v Speaker 3>And that's what the kids do with Discord.

784
00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:44.119
<v Speaker 4>Then my middle daughter she likes to game and she

785
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:46.599
<v Speaker 4>games with her cousin and her friend up in Massachusetts

786
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:47.480
<v Speaker 4>because we live in Florida.

787
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:51.159
<v Speaker 3>So they use the Internet to talk to people that they.

788
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:53.360
<v Speaker 4>Actually know they know in real life, and that's it.

789
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:55.480
<v Speaker 4>That's the extent of their Internet use. You know, they

790
00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:59.679
<v Speaker 4>don't have well MJ. My older daughter does have a

791
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:02.559
<v Speaker 4>figure account if you know anything about she has my

792
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:05.960
<v Speaker 4>figure she runs my Figure O fan account. But that's

793
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:07.360
<v Speaker 4>the extent of their Internet use.

794
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, I think it's just a much healthier way

795
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:11.800
<v Speaker 2>to do things. And you know, this is kind of

796
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:14.280
<v Speaker 2>what I said during that conversation with Tripoli and then

797
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:18.400
<v Speaker 2>was like, I hate feeling like a Luddite. I hate it,

798
00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:22.440
<v Speaker 2>but I can't help but acknowledge that, like, and granted

799
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:24.920
<v Speaker 2>it could be correlation causation, and maybe this is wrong

800
00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:28.599
<v Speaker 2>to connect these, but like our culture has degraded so

801
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:34.480
<v Speaker 2>rapidly under this all encompassing internet framework. It's like, it's

802
00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:37.119
<v Speaker 2>just so obvious to me. And that doesn't mean that

803
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:38.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't love the Internet. It's changed my life and

804
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:41.280
<v Speaker 2>improved my life in many many ways. But at the

805
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:44.559
<v Speaker 2>same time, like on net, can we really argue that

806
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:47.760
<v Speaker 2>it's been like the best thing ever? And I'm like,

807
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:49.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

808
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:52.000
<v Speaker 4>There is a dopamine addiction that we're dealing with. It

809
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:57.000
<v Speaker 4>is a massive addiction. I use the Internet for work primarily,

810
00:37:57.119 --> 00:37:59.440
<v Speaker 4>You too, same thing. We primarily use it for work.

811
00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:01.840
<v Speaker 4>And I think that that's a reason why my kids

812
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:04.079
<v Speaker 4>aren't big Internet kids, because they see me use it

813
00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:05.920
<v Speaker 4>for work and they're like, well, mom does it and

814
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:08.440
<v Speaker 4>it's boring exactly, It's gay and retarded, you know. So

815
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:10.360
<v Speaker 4>then that's just the way that it is. And I'm

816
00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:13.800
<v Speaker 4>totally okay with them thinking that when it comes to Instagram,

817
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:17.000
<v Speaker 4>for instance, and even women my age, they deal with

818
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:20.360
<v Speaker 4>seeing people live the perfect lives, have the perfect homes,

819
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:23.960
<v Speaker 4>see the perfect kids, and people put their best moments

820
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:26.239
<v Speaker 4>up on Instagram.

821
00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Well because keeping up with the Joneses has always been

822
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:32.199
<v Speaker 2>a phenomenon. But the Joneses was just the wealthy family

823
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:35.519
<v Speaker 2>in your town. It wasn't the wealthiest person in the

824
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:38.760
<v Speaker 2>world Dubai, you know. And it's like, at this point,

825
00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:42.519
<v Speaker 2>even if you're like really successful by like any other standards,

826
00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:45.320
<v Speaker 2>if you're in the top one percent, your life sucks

827
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:47.360
<v Speaker 2>compared to a lot of people on earth. Just the truth.

828
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:49.119
<v Speaker 2>You ain't in the just because you're in the top

829
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:51.039
<v Speaker 2>one percent. You're making three four hundred and five hundred

830
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:53.239
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars a year. You ain't flying on a private jet.

831
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:55.639
<v Speaker 2>You may not even be fine for first class, depending

832
00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:57.199
<v Speaker 2>on how many kids you got at home. I think

833
00:38:57.199 --> 00:38:59.719
<v Speaker 2>it just exasperated the issues with keeping up with.

834
00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:02.480
<v Speaker 3>The jones That's actually a really good point.

835
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:05.320
<v Speaker 4>A lot of people get depressed and then they get mad,

836
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:08.400
<v Speaker 4>and so Instagram will respond with things like we're going

837
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:10.800
<v Speaker 4>to remove the likes so that nobody could see how

838
00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:12.679
<v Speaker 4>many likes they have. And this is going to fix us, Like, no,

839
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:14.679
<v Speaker 4>that's going to make them crave it somewhere else because

840
00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:16.840
<v Speaker 4>they felt the likes exactly.

841
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:18.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know Elon was talking about that for a

842
00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:20.800
<v Speaker 2>while and both you and I were like, Nope, don't

843
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:21.840
<v Speaker 2>want that. No.

844
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:26.280
<v Speaker 4>See, with likes on X and with political stuff, it

845
00:39:26.360 --> 00:39:29.800
<v Speaker 4>comes down to consensus. This is where ratioing comes from.

846
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:32.519
<v Speaker 4>It's like, all right, if there's one hundred comments and

847
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:35.599
<v Speaker 4>one like you had a bad idea, and people need

848
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:37.400
<v Speaker 4>to know that that was a bad idea, and that's

849
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:39.719
<v Speaker 4>how they read it, and they can to about a

850
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:42.000
<v Speaker 4>ninety percent accuracy, I would estimate.

851
00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:43.480
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes, you know, you.

852
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:46.679
<v Speaker 4>Get dogpiled by the left and they're just trying to

853
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:49.280
<v Speaker 4>ratio you. Like so it's a plan to ratio. It's

854
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:52.719
<v Speaker 4>not just this natural conclusion that this was a dumb

855
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:54.639
<v Speaker 4>thing to say. It's that we need to make this

856
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:56.199
<v Speaker 4>look like it was a dumb thing so size.

857
00:39:56.400 --> 00:40:00.960
<v Speaker 2>It does allow for kind of community, the policing of

858
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:03.760
<v Speaker 2>wrong think, if you will, in a way that's like

859
00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:06.440
<v Speaker 2>it's passive though it's not aggressive, it's not state violence.

860
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:10.280
<v Speaker 2>It's just like everyone thinks that you sound like a creep, right,

861
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:12.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, that type of shit, so there is value

862
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:15.119
<v Speaker 2>in it. But I do want to just circle back

863
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:17.440
<v Speaker 2>to the topic to Jor because we're gonna end here soon.

864
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:19.440
<v Speaker 2>What do you think? Where are we going?

865
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:21.760
<v Speaker 3>It looks like World War three? And I think that

866
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:22.360
<v Speaker 3>once they.

867
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:25.559
<v Speaker 4>Pulled World War three, yeah, worlder three, they pulled the

868
00:40:25.599 --> 00:40:28.239
<v Speaker 4>Tulsi into it, and that was the last person we

869
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:30.320
<v Speaker 4>thought would break and once they got.

870
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:32.559
<v Speaker 2>We need to explain that. Do you want to explain

871
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:33.119
<v Speaker 2>it or should I.

872
00:40:33.159 --> 00:40:34.039
<v Speaker 3>You can explain it.

873
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:36.800
<v Speaker 2>So six weeks ago, maybe two months.

874
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:39.639
<v Speaker 4>Ago it was March when she had the first interview,

875
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:40.119
<v Speaker 4>was late March.

876
00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:42.880
<v Speaker 2>I thought, okay, so three months ago, yep. She gives

877
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:45.559
<v Speaker 2>her testimony in front of I think it was a congress, yep.

878
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:49.880
<v Speaker 2>And she gives her annual assessment, and she's very explicit that, well, yes,

879
00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:54.599
<v Speaker 2>Ron has continued to produce uranium at sixty percent purity

880
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:58.840
<v Speaker 2>or whatever it's called, and therefore like that's not good.

881
00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:03.079
<v Speaker 2>But they have not made the decision to restart their

882
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:06.559
<v Speaker 2>nuclear program, which was suspended in two thousand and three.

883
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:09.119
<v Speaker 2>So this is not like a country that's obviously angling

884
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:11.719
<v Speaker 2>for a nuclear weapon. In fact, they have demonstrated pretty

885
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:14.480
<v Speaker 2>clearly that they were not trying to build one because

886
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:17.800
<v Speaker 2>they could have. And she posts the testimony in which

887
00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:20.719
<v Speaker 2>she says what I just said, and she goes, in fact,

888
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:23.159
<v Speaker 2>they could be. You know, they could have a nuclear

889
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:24.960
<v Speaker 2>weapon in two weeks if they wanted to. And it's

890
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:29.920
<v Speaker 2>like that is such a huge like shift. The sentiment was,

891
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:32.760
<v Speaker 2>as of three months ago, they're not going for noakes.

892
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:36.440
<v Speaker 2>The sentiment of her revising that statement today was yes

893
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:40.639
<v Speaker 2>they are. And the fact that that proceeded within less

894
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:43.119
<v Speaker 2>than twenty four hours to us bonding them, I don't

895
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:44.000
<v Speaker 2>think is a coincidence.

896
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:46.280
<v Speaker 4>I knew she was the last in line. Soon as

897
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:47.920
<v Speaker 4>she got behind it, it was over. As soon as

898
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:49.079
<v Speaker 4>she did, I'm like, yeah, it's over.

899
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:49.800
<v Speaker 3>We're going to war.

900
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:50.400
<v Speaker 2>I agree.

901
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:55.280
<v Speaker 4>And the response to Tulsi in general, by the I

902
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:59.280
<v Speaker 4>guess the maga with the neocons is that Tulsi lied

903
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:01.039
<v Speaker 4>to Congress and so lose her job. I'm like, no,

904
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:03.039
<v Speaker 4>she literally didn't lie to Congress.

905
00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:04.039
<v Speaker 2>She actually told the truth.

906
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:04.719
<v Speaker 3>I told the truth.

907
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:09.480
<v Speaker 2>It's so disappointing men, and therefore gave guests you could say,

908
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:12.800
<v Speaker 2>cassas belly like cause for war against them, even though

909
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:15.079
<v Speaker 2>nations have a right to build nuclear weapons. They have

910
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:17.239
<v Speaker 2>a right to defend themselves. I don't like the leadership

911
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:19.559
<v Speaker 2>of Iran. I don't want anyone to have nukes, including

912
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:21.719
<v Speaker 2>my own country, But it doesn't change the fact that

913
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:24.519
<v Speaker 2>if we have massive nuclear arsenals, and if people are

914
00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:28.119
<v Speaker 2>autonomous sovereign nations they ought to be, they ought to

915
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:30.320
<v Speaker 2>have the right to defend themselves too. Now these weapons

916
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:34.599
<v Speaker 2>are so dangerous that all grant that it's existential, like

917
00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:36.840
<v Speaker 2>if you get nuclear weapon in the hands of a

918
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:39.960
<v Speaker 2>mad man, it's an existential threat. The truth is is

919
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:42.559
<v Speaker 2>that in many instances, I think America is led by

920
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:45.360
<v Speaker 2>mad men, and we have thousands of nuclear weapons, and

921
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Russia's got them, China's got them, and France has got them,

922
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:51.480
<v Speaker 2>and Pakistan's got them, and the UK's got them North Korea.

923
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:52.519
<v Speaker 3>So and Israel.

924
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Do the people have a right to defend themselves from Israel,

925
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:57.480
<v Speaker 2>who is obviously aggressing upon them in a very fucking

926
00:42:57.519 --> 00:42:59.320
<v Speaker 2>savage way. Do they not have a right to try

927
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:01.840
<v Speaker 2>and defend themselves with a nuclear arsenal given that their

928
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:04.400
<v Speaker 2>aggressor has hundreds of nuclear weapons themselves.

929
00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:06.440
<v Speaker 4>The goal is to wipe them out, And there is

930
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:09.719
<v Speaker 4>something I would like to address and I'll use your

931
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:10.280
<v Speaker 4>show to do it.

932
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:11.599
<v Speaker 3>If you don't mind, feel free.

933
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:15.599
<v Speaker 4>Comparing every war that you want to get into is

934
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:18.880
<v Speaker 4>not the Revolutionary war. The Revolutionary War was a civil

935
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:23.119
<v Speaker 4>war separated by an ocean, and you had the king

936
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:29.719
<v Speaker 4>of these countries literally arming people to kill women and children.

937
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:32.960
<v Speaker 4>He was arming natives, he was arming Canadians, he was

938
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:37.880
<v Speaker 4>arming the Hessians. He was bringing colonists out to the

939
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:40.079
<v Speaker 4>ocean and saying, we're either going to walk the plank.

940
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:42.840
<v Speaker 4>We're going to throw you overboard, or you're going to

941
00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:44.639
<v Speaker 4>go back and kill your whole family and all of

942
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:47.800
<v Speaker 4>your friends. And those are your choices. So and if

943
00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:51.239
<v Speaker 4>you don't believe me, you can read the last seven

944
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:53.679
<v Speaker 4>grievances and the Declaration of Independence and that'll cover all

945
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:56.599
<v Speaker 4>of them. So it wasn't just about taxes. We weren't

946
00:43:56.639 --> 00:44:01.719
<v Speaker 4>mad about the taxes. Comparing an offense strategy to a

947
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:05.800
<v Speaker 4>defensive strategy where you're really just trying to stop a

948
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:10.440
<v Speaker 4>tyrant king from killing everybody, it's not the same thing.

949
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:12.760
<v Speaker 4>And this is what I get the most of this

950
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:14.519
<v Speaker 4>is the you know, because I'm anti war, and they'd

951
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:16.039
<v Speaker 4>be like, wo, how can you be anti war if

952
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:19.239
<v Speaker 4>you are all about the revolutionary one, I'm like defensive exactly.

953
00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:22.599
<v Speaker 4>I'm a non interventionist, and there was no intervention.

954
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:25.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know any libertarian that doesn't support the vast

955
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:28.320
<v Speaker 2>majority of libertarians recognize that the Revolutionary War, the American Revolution,

956
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:30.880
<v Speaker 2>is one of the only wars that's been just like

957
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:33.440
<v Speaker 2>because we don't support them very many wars, but like

958
00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:36.079
<v Speaker 2>that is crystal clear a just war.

959
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:40.360
<v Speaker 4>Also, other grievances they had King George there were two

960
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:45.639
<v Speaker 4>tiers of justice where he would actually take Americans and

961
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:49.440
<v Speaker 4>have them tried in England. So you got in trouble,

962
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:50.880
<v Speaker 4>you were gonna have to sail on a ship and

963
00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:52.800
<v Speaker 4>go all the way to England to have your trial.

964
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:54.840
<v Speaker 4>So you wouldn't have a jury of your peers. He

965
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:57.119
<v Speaker 4>would have mock trials for regular probably.

966
00:44:56.840 --> 00:44:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Helped formulate the Constitution, didn't it make sure that you're

967
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:01.639
<v Speaker 2>tal appeers because they're like, you're not going to ship

968
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:02.159
<v Speaker 2>you at England.

969
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:05.719
<v Speaker 4>Also, quartering troops that's another one. Quartering troops that's another one.

970
00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:08.000
<v Speaker 4>You know. So a lot of the Bill of Rights

971
00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:10.599
<v Speaker 4>is framed around these abuses that King George did to

972
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:14.599
<v Speaker 4>the American colonists and to be like, well, it's literally

973
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:19.480
<v Speaker 4>just like the revolution to go bomb Iran nuclear facilities

974
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:24.039
<v Speaker 4>is the dumbest, the most, the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

975
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, completely agree, I would say I don't actually hear

976
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:29.320
<v Speaker 2>much of that. What I hear a lot of is

977
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:32.280
<v Speaker 2>it's every every war is always World War two. Every

978
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:35.039
<v Speaker 2>war's World War two, and every leader that were is

979
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:38.159
<v Speaker 2>our enemy is always Hitler or Stalin or whatever, and

980
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:40.519
<v Speaker 2>it's just not you know, like, it doesn't mean that,

981
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:42.519
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't mean that they're not bad. Also, some of

982
00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:45.639
<v Speaker 2>them are actually genuinely bad, and in fact, everything that

983
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:47.519
<v Speaker 2>you think you know about World War Two is probably

984
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:50.039
<v Speaker 2>not accurate. It's a good thought experiment just to think

985
00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:53.880
<v Speaker 2>about what the mainstream narrative, what the history books will

986
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:56.519
<v Speaker 2>actually say about the past five years, and think about

987
00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:59.599
<v Speaker 2>how unbelievably different that will read compared to what you

988
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:03.639
<v Speaker 2>think transpired. Now, extrapolate that back to before the Internet

989
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:06.320
<v Speaker 2>and seventy five plus years ago in World War Two.

990
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:09.199
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that it would actually reflect the reality

991
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:12.360
<v Speaker 2>given that they had no independent reporting or social media

992
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:14.599
<v Speaker 2>by which you can get other counter narratives out there,

993
00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:17.320
<v Speaker 2>or would it probably be more fucking delusional and detached

994
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:18.920
<v Speaker 2>from reality. I think the answer is the letter.

995
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:21.639
<v Speaker 4>It's going to be ridiculous looking back in history from

996
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:25.719
<v Speaker 4>twenty thirteen to about twenty twenty that is completely made up.

997
00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:29.440
<v Speaker 4>All of the real news was completely censored in that time,

998
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:33.119
<v Speaker 4>so there's really no evidence of Like I use when

999
00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:36.199
<v Speaker 4>I do all my research, I use artifacts or documents.

1000
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:38.320
<v Speaker 4>I use stuff right from that time period because I

1001
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:40.559
<v Speaker 4>can check them against each other, and that helps me

1002
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:43.880
<v Speaker 4>kind of gauge what's truth and what's not by what witnesses.

1003
00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:46.119
<v Speaker 4>Witness I can read through trial documents and everything because

1004
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:49.000
<v Speaker 4>they've preserved it all so well. We don't have that

1005
00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:50.519
<v Speaker 4>for that period of time. So that's going to be

1006
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:53.320
<v Speaker 4>a really interesting period of time. The Obama presidency it's

1007
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:55.079
<v Speaker 4>going to be very interesting, and then the beginning of

1008
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:57.119
<v Speaker 4>the Trump presidency going to be very interesting too.

1009
00:46:57.320 --> 00:46:59.079
<v Speaker 2>It's all disas from reality in my opinion.

1010
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:03.320
<v Speaker 4>You can find me on x at TRHL Official. I

1011
00:47:03.400 --> 00:47:06.079
<v Speaker 4>also do outside media work for Tim Kass and I'll

1012
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:08.400
<v Speaker 4>be on that show in a little over a week.

1013
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:11.119
<v Speaker 3>You can follow us over there and help supart our work.

1014
00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Become a subscriber at Liberty Lockpod on X if you

1015
00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:17.599
<v Speaker 2>enjoyed this conversation because of the breaking news, I'm actually

1016
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:21.039
<v Speaker 2>going to release this one today because I've been off

1017
00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:23.360
<v Speaker 2>for a long time and this is obviously massive news,

1018
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:27.400
<v Speaker 2>and the interview with Sam Tripley Austin Jose will be

1019
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<v Speaker 2>up tomorrow. If you did hit the like button, subscribe

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<v Speaker 2>shared around. If you want to support my work at

1021
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1022
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:36.559
<v Speaker 2>so much for tuning in. As always, you're the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Hugs and kisses, and God willing we're not actually in

1024
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<v Speaker 2>World War three. I guess we'll know very soon.
