WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.040 --> 00:00:09.359 We still need our weekly itch of all things NFL 2 00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:13.199 insider Matt Lombardo. Baby, we haven't gotten it yet, but 3 00:00:13.439 --> 00:00:16.079 mondays there Tuesday. Whatever the hell the day it is 4 00:00:16.320 --> 00:00:18.719 is a better time than any. Boy Green Daily starts out. 5 00:00:19.120 --> 00:00:21.079 I'm gonna lose my gash turned vanillas. 6 00:00:21.519 --> 00:00:25.800 Boy Green Daily start snap sweets. 7 00:00:26.039 --> 00:00:30.280 Buggy Day, Buggy Day, Buggy Day. 8 00:00:30.519 --> 00:00:40.600 Let's go. Put your seatbelts on, getting ready for the ride. 9 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:42.560 We're in a freaking New York Jets. We're built for 10 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:42.960 the ship. 11 00:00:55.799 --> 00:00:58.840 What's going on? Everybody? Paul Aston Junior aka Boy Green, 12 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:01.320 I'm the New York Jets digital reporter Foreavy dot com. 13 00:01:01.359 --> 00:01:03.560 Welcome to Boy Green Daily, a daily New York Jets 14 00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:06.760 video show also available where you get your podcasts and 15 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:09.799 people look, it's hang it up. Shout out to the fiance. 16 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:12.480 You gotta zoom in on that one and do one 17 00:01:12.519 --> 00:01:14.359 of these on your screen, all right and you can 18 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:17.359 see it. Brett Michaels, Paul Sden and Paul Hesden again. 19 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:20.680 Hop on pop that picture will be there forever. Shout 20 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:23.599 out to an amazing Father's Day weekend which was terrific. 21 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:25.640 I thank you guys for all the commentary of the 22 00:01:25.680 --> 00:01:28.560 last couple of days. I've thoroughly enjoyed it. Let's get 23 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:31.400 to our special guest, what a hell of a Father's 24 00:01:31.480 --> 00:01:36.400 Day himself. It is our NFL Insider extraordinaire, Matt Lombardo. 25 00:01:36.560 --> 00:01:38.719 We have a direct link of the YouTube description down 26 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:41.760 below to his substack. Feel free to get the scuba 27 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:43.920 gear on and dive into the deep end of the bull. 28 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:46.920 Let's bring him in. Matt Lombardo, what's up, Mat. 29 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:50.000 Well, good morning, happy pervated Father's Day. And you and 30 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:52.120 I touched on this on off the air last night. 31 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:53.599 We were talking about what we're gonna bring up on 32 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:57.079 the show. Kudos to you and said, taking your father 33 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:00.079 to the concert, I have a little bit of a 34 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:03.159 connection to that region where you guys saw the show 35 00:02:03.280 --> 00:02:03.959 to that Nue. 36 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:06.079 Yeah, well, dude, tell. 37 00:02:07.480 --> 00:02:07.680 Yeah. 38 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:10.000 Probably about eight or ten years ago, my father and 39 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:12.240 I went to see Bruce Springsteen in the East Street 40 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:15.439 Band at Hershey Park Stadium. Decided to head over to 41 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:18.319 dinner at the Hollywood Park Casino where you guys saw 42 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:21.919 Brett Michaels. And you know I've been known to dabble 43 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:25.639 with the ponies, So we took a stroll over to 44 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:29.080 the horse track, the off betting horse track, if you will, 45 00:02:29.120 --> 00:02:31.759 and I decided, hey, there's a race at Santa Anita. 46 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:34.919 Let me throw down a three dollars exacta just for 47 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:37.360 the heck of it, just to see what happens. Three 48 00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:40.319 hundred and seventy five dollars. Three hundred and seventy five dollars. 49 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:40.599 Richard. 50 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:42.280 Dinner was paid for and we had a great time 51 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:44.919 at the show in the pit, great time, and I'm 52 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:47.280 glad that you and your father got to experience the 53 00:02:47.319 --> 00:02:49.680 concert and have a really special Father's Day weekend as 54 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:50.800 well well. 55 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:53.479 Thank goodness, the Lombardo luck was still hanging in the 56 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:56.840 universe as we won the random meet and greet with 57 00:02:56.919 --> 00:03:01.719 Brett Michaels after the show, which was so Yes, the 58 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:04.759 Lombardo luck was very much in the air, and appreciate it. 59 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:06.840 Thank you for leaving that there. You didn't have to 60 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:09.199 do that, but you chose to do that. What a guy. 61 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:09.439 You know. 62 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:11.199 You have me on the show every week. It's the 63 00:03:11.280 --> 00:03:13.039 least I can do to sprinkle some of that good 64 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:15.319 luck over the essence. And now I'm glad you guys 65 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:17.840 had a great time. Seriously, Happy Father's Day to you. 66 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:20.240 And all the dads out there. Sorry we couldn't make 67 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:23.039 it on Sunday. A little bit of you know, family 68 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:26.080 things to attend to. But we're back and before we 69 00:03:26.159 --> 00:03:27.960 know it, regular season football is going to be back 70 00:03:27.960 --> 00:03:28.360 here as well. 71 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:31.560 Paul, that's true, and Matt, quite frankly, what it really 72 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:34.159 just shows is that you're willing to call some audibles 73 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:36.080 at the line of group. You're willing to change your 74 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:37.800 play if it's not going to work, like a boy 75 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:40.879 eight Sunday's not going to work. But gave a little bluebird, 76 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:44.840 red Cobra forty seven, the forty twos, the mic over there, 77 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:47.479 big boom bam. We're here on a Tuesday. So we 78 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:50.080 have the magic of Matt Lombardo here which could lead 79 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:53.759 to unbelievable things moving forward, and I fully expect that 80 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:57.240 moving forward. Speaking of unbelievable things again, between the hashmarks, 81 00:03:57.360 --> 00:04:00.919 Matt Lombardo latest NFL news analysis in said from across 82 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:05.199 the league, some exclusive juicy stuff is going on in there. 83 00:04:05.680 --> 00:04:08.479 Find out yourself. Go to the substack link down below 84 00:04:08.520 --> 00:04:12.360 to support all things NFL Insider Matt Lombardo and if 85 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:17.079 we dive into it, part of your a couple of downs, 86 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:19.839 fourth down, one of my favorites. I had some New 87 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:24.199 York Jets love going on there and a variety of 88 00:04:24.279 --> 00:04:27.959 commentary from your sourcing around the league here, Matt Lombardo, 89 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:31.720 and I was fascinated to hear it, including some observations 90 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:35.680 on what we believe, what we're speculating can potentially happen 91 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:38.879 here with the New York Jets during the twenty twenty 92 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:41.959 five season. So let's start diving in. There's a lot 93 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:44.639 of stuff to sort of unpack here with all your 94 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:48.199 conversation on the New York Jets and Matt, we've talked 95 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:52.600 about this before. You're pasted with the Philadelphia Eagles, and 96 00:04:52.680 --> 00:04:55.519 it seems like it's not just a connection you have 97 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:57.879 with the Eagles, that perhaps this Jets team could have 98 00:04:57.920 --> 00:04:59.800 some connections to the Philadelphia Eagles. 99 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:01.319 Man for sure. 100 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:04.680 And you know, for the column on Monday, I decided 101 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:07.279 that this was the perfect time of year to survey 102 00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:10.360 my contacts, reach out to the sources, the executives around 103 00:05:10.399 --> 00:05:13.040 the league to find out who are the teams that 104 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:15.079 are going to surprise people. Who are the teams that 105 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:18.279 missed the playoffs a year ago might have been seller dwellers, 106 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:20.839 but because of what they've done in the offseason could 107 00:05:20.839 --> 00:05:23.839 surprise the upside. And Paul I had two different people 108 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:26.639 mentioned in New York Jets, so decided right then, and 109 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:29.439 they're okay, I have a couple of contacts within that building. 110 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:32.439 You know, these people in passing mentioned the Jets that 111 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:34.439 they could be a team, that they could be on 112 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:36.800 the rise this year. So I reached out. I said, okay, here, 113 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:39.600 here's what people are telling me. What are you feeling 114 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:42.759 in that building. What are you guys believing is going 115 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:45.519 to be different this time around? And we touched on 116 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:47.600 this one of the first times on the show that 117 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:50.680 last year the defense was built to protect leads that 118 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:52.759 they didn't really have the chance to do. They wilted 119 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:55.120 down the stretch. A lot of that was because of 120 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:58.839 the poor play from Aaron Rodgers, the turnovers, falling behind, 121 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:01.519 having to throw their way out things. But you know, 122 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:04.759 there's a belief within the Jets organization that the offense 123 00:06:04.839 --> 00:06:07.160 is going to be improved this year. And I was told, quote, 124 00:06:07.360 --> 00:06:09.439 I guess we're going to wind up looking similar to 125 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:12.600 what the Eagles do on offense. The offensive line and 126 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:15.199 the running game set the table sprinkled in with some 127 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:19.319 manageable third downs, play action shots and design quarterback runs, 128 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:23.639 keep the ball and take the pressure off the defense. Finally, unquote, 129 00:06:23.800 --> 00:06:26.000 and it's that final way that's with me there. And 130 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:27.920 you know, you think about what they did in the 131 00:06:27.959 --> 00:06:31.800 offseason bringing in Justin Fields. You have Garrett Wilson, You 132 00:06:31.959 --> 00:06:34.279 bring in a rookie tight end till you took early 133 00:06:34.319 --> 00:06:37.079 on in Mason Taylor. You know, I have two bookends 134 00:06:37.079 --> 00:06:40.319 at offensive tackle. Paul, I don't know about you. I'm 135 00:06:40.360 --> 00:06:44.000 not sure there's a path to climbing to the postseason 136 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:47.199 this year because I think the AFC is loaded. But 137 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:49.680 I can start to see the formula. I can start 138 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:52.519 to see that if you believe in Justin Fields and 139 00:06:52.560 --> 00:06:55.959 what Justin Fields does well with his mobility backed by 140 00:06:56.040 --> 00:06:59.600 two really good running backs behind an improved offensive line, 141 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:02.720 I could see a world where we look up in 142 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:05.759 January and the Jets are hovering around five hundred or better, 143 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:08.800 feeling better about themselves than they think. Okay, we have 144 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:11.639 this twenty six year old quarterback, we have the system 145 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:14.079 that works for him. Let's go on in and see 146 00:07:14.120 --> 00:07:14.639 what happens. 147 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:17.800 Well, the Jets have only been over five hundred by 148 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:20.519 the seasons and once over the last fourteen years, so 149 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:23.160 that'd be refreshing, and why not mix things up a 150 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:25.160 little bit if we could do that. There was a 151 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:28.360 decade ago in twenty fifteen. But you just mentioned it 152 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:31.959 there that if anything like that is going to remotely happen, 153 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:35.160 it's going to come down to a variety of things. 154 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:38.079 One of those things is the running backs in the backfield. 155 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:40.439 Breeshall's entering the last year of his deal. We can 156 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:43.160 sort of get more exploring that in a moment, but 157 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:46.240 just him and Braylan Allen. The thing that I also 158 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:49.279 took away from the column was the tone setting nature 159 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:52.560 that some people expect to be delivered with Bristol and 160 00:07:52.600 --> 00:07:55.920 Brailn Allen. Brailan Awen not a lot of people may 161 00:07:55.959 --> 00:07:58.000 not know as well as a fourth round pick last 162 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:01.959 year at Wisconsin, the youngest player NFL history, making all 163 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:05.199 these records early in the season last year as a 164 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:07.959 twenty year old coming in. But let me ask you 165 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:10.800 about him, what more can you tell us about? There? 166 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:13.399 You go, Jay Boys saying it here in the comments section. 167 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:16.519 You know, keep putting respect on Agent zero as his 168 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:19.639 nickname is. But let's do that as well. Braylan Allen 169 00:08:19.720 --> 00:08:23.439 Breeshall tone setting that seems to perhaps speak into that 170 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:27.240 Aaron Glenn identity he seems to be looking for. 171 00:08:27.240 --> 00:08:27.600 For sure. 172 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:30.680 I think it's borrowing a page or even a chapter 173 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:33.120 from the Detroit Lions playbook. I mean, you look at 174 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:36.360 what makes them so successful. Yes, Ben Johnson helped turn 175 00:08:36.440 --> 00:08:39.080 Jared Goff into one of the more efficient and prolific 176 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:41.679 quarterbacks in the league, but that offense was built on 177 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:45.159 two dynamic running backs with David Montgomery and Jamier Gibbs. 178 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:48.879 I can see the blueprint for the Jets replicating that 179 00:08:49.039 --> 00:08:52.279 kind of plan. I could see Breese Hall being the 180 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:56.519 two down bellcal, the explosive back, the big play threat, 181 00:08:56.919 --> 00:08:58.720 and then you bring in this change of pace guy 182 00:08:59.200 --> 00:09:01.559 with Braylen Allen, and I think that he's one of 183 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:04.279 the more underrated backs in the league. I think he 184 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:07.399 could be a guy that pushes for six fifty seven 185 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:11.320 hundred yards four or five touchdowns, carves out a legitimate 186 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:14.720 niche in this offense. And there's a lot of uncertainty 187 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:17.320 over Breese Hall's future in New York and what it's 188 00:09:17.360 --> 00:09:19.480 going to look like two in three years down the line. 189 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:22.679 Braylen Allen can figure into supplanting him and eventually being 190 00:09:22.679 --> 00:09:24.840 the number one back in his own right. I thought 191 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:27.159 there were some moments and some glimpses a year ago 192 00:09:27.159 --> 00:09:30.200 from Braylen Allen. If he can replicate that and expand 193 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:32.320 on it behind an offensive line, then now has not 194 00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:36.600 one but two bookend offensive tackles, both chosen in the 195 00:09:36.639 --> 00:09:39.960 first round of the NFL Draft. This could be a 196 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:42.879 as the executive within the building told me, a run 197 00:09:42.960 --> 00:09:46.399 first round and pound offense that sets up the passing game, 198 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:49.559 doesn't put a lot of pressure on Justin Fields, leans 199 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:52.320 into his mobility, and it just seems like there could 200 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:55.279 be a different tone to what the Jets do, leaning 201 00:09:55.320 --> 00:09:58.960 into their personnel and what they do best versus trying 202 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:02.039 to build a round owned what the quarterback wants to do, 203 00:10:02.120 --> 00:10:04.200 which is what they've been forced to try to do 204 00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:05.120 the last two years. 205 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:08.639 Yeah, one of the surprising things. Obviously, there's a lot 206 00:10:08.679 --> 00:10:12.200 of content going on right now, not from teams doing things, 207 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:15.840 but from content creators creating things out in the universe. 208 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:19.799 And Pro Football Focus released the quote unquote all breakout team, 209 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:22.080 and for every position, they're like, hey, watch up for 210 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:25.559 this quarterback or these receivers or this, or that they 211 00:10:25.600 --> 00:10:28.440 picked one running back in that group. It wasn't Brisaw. 212 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:31.279 It was Braylan Allen, who they said would break out 213 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:33.320 on the scene. And they even hinted at a little 214 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:36.799 bit of what you said. Obviously, he could potentially supplant 215 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:39.320 him if resol plays is here and then just simply leaves. 216 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:42.600 But there was a suggestion in the PFF column that, hey, man, 217 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:46.600 don't rule out Brailon Allen just supplanting Bresaw and being 218 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:50.519 the guy this season with what he brings to the table, 219 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:53.759 and how potentially that could work with this Tanner aank 220 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:56.720 straight offense. So there is a lot of hubbub apparently 221 00:10:57.240 --> 00:10:59.799 this offseason for what Brailon Allen could be. 222 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:04.159 Right, and again I'm not trying to lean too much 223 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:06.320 on the history of Aaron Glenn in Detroit, but we 224 00:11:06.399 --> 00:11:08.240 saw that happen with the Lions a little bit. 225 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:08.480 Right. 226 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:11.559 You have Dave Montgomery, who's supposed to be the veteran 227 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:15.799 you draft Jamier Gibbs in Round one, explosive player, kind 228 00:11:15.799 --> 00:11:17.679 of a gadget guy, a little bit more than that 229 00:11:17.759 --> 00:11:19.639 as a rookie. You look up a year ago and 230 00:11:19.679 --> 00:11:22.159 I know Montgomery was banged up, so the door was 231 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:24.840 open for Gibbs, who expand his role. But even before that, 232 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:28.159 Gibbons became the guy, and sometimes you just have to 233 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:32.240 ride the hot hand, especially the younger hand at that position. 234 00:11:32.759 --> 00:11:35.240 And you look Allen last year average three point six 235 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:37.600 yards per cary, but he did have some explosive runs 236 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:39.159 and he was still a guy that could force some 237 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:41.919 mistackles in the open field. I happened to like him 238 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:44.960 a lot. I think that Breese Hall has the chance 239 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:47.919 to really do some special things behind that offensive line. 240 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:50.200 But I think you're walking into a season where you 241 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:53.240 have a two headed monster in the backfield with Bres 242 00:11:53.320 --> 00:11:55.799 Hall and Brailen Allen. And it wouldn't surprise me in 243 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:57.960 the least if we look up by the second half 244 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:00.480 of the year and it's Braylen Allen who's starting to 245 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:03.480 not just set the pace, but chip into and chip 246 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:07.240 away at Reese Hall's previous workload as he becomes the 247 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:08.159 guy moving forward. 248 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:11.879 NFO n sider Matt Lombardo joining us again. His direct 249 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:14.600 link to a substack is down below. You heard Matt 250 00:12:14.639 --> 00:12:17.679 talk about writing the hot hand. Brett Michaels would say, 251 00:12:17.759 --> 00:12:20.279 riding the wind as one of his great songs there 252 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:23.240 on the album. Yes, I work that in there. You're welcome. 253 00:12:23.480 --> 00:12:25.679 Speaking of all the running here, Matt, let me get 254 00:12:25.679 --> 00:12:29.519 into this because you know I had to google this term. 255 00:12:29.639 --> 00:12:35.320 I'm like, Okay, this is a push push palooza. Perhaps 256 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:40.360 that happening for the nyj You know, that's an interesting terminology. 257 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:42.799 Can he dive in more? And how much more could 258 00:12:42.799 --> 00:12:46.519 we see of Justin fields and Toush push palooza? Because 259 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:49.360 the Jets were an advocate for keeping the Toush Push 260 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:51.360 in the National Football League this season. 261 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:53.960 Yeah, Paul, this just goes back to those comments from 262 00:12:53.960 --> 00:12:56.080 the executive who also told me, quote, it all comes 263 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:59.000 down to winning on first and second downs. Staying in 264 00:12:59.039 --> 00:13:01.759 front of the sticks make because third and long is difficult, 265 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:03.879 whereas if you have third and short, it gives you 266 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:07.080 the opportunity to go forward on fourth down. Unquote. And 267 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:10.200 this is just me. The hamster wheels are turning. But 268 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:13.960 if your goal is third and short, fourth and manageable, 269 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:17.320 and you've supported the Tush push and you've voted against 270 00:13:17.360 --> 00:13:20.600 banning the play, and you have this quarterback who thrives 271 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:24.120 in the running game, and you've invested in your offensive line. 272 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:27.080 Over the course of the last two off seasons, the 273 00:13:27.879 --> 00:13:30.799 stars start to align a little bit to where if 274 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:34.039 you're the Jets and you're facing third and three and 275 00:13:34.080 --> 00:13:38.720 it becomes fourth and one, why not put that play 276 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:41.879 into your playbook? Why not add that element into what 277 00:13:42.039 --> 00:13:45.279 you do. It's no longer a forty one year old 278 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:49.600 Aaron Rodgers. It is a twenty six year old Justin Fields, 279 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:52.279 who's built for the running game, who might be a 280 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:56.159 little bit more apt to withstand the physical punishment of 281 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:57.159 the tush push. 282 00:13:56.919 --> 00:13:58.039 Play now and then. 283 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:01.279 But if you're talking about relating what the Eagles do, 284 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:04.679 and you've borrowed a chapter from Howie Roseman's Book of 285 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:08.720 Roster Building, which is dominating both lines of scrimmage, especially 286 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:12.240 the offensive line, and you have a mobile quarterback and 287 00:14:12.279 --> 00:14:14.720 you want to get into short yardage situations on third 288 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:17.679 and fourth down, I could envision the push push or 289 00:14:17.759 --> 00:14:21.960 some variant of it being an element of what they 290 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:24.679 do and how to keep the chains moving and keep 291 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:27.440 drives moving and going strong for the Jets offense. 292 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:31.720 Matt, I love our conversations where we'll of course talk Jets. 293 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:35.320 This is a Jets show. Also go overall NFL another 294 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:37.799 part I'd like to explore, and we could just sort 295 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:39.960 of dip our toes in and see how the water 296 00:14:40.120 --> 00:14:43.480 feels moving forward. But you, as an NFL in center, 297 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:45.919 that is one of the coolest gigs of all time. 298 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:48.919 It's amazing for you to be able to build sourcing 299 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:51.080 with all these different teams and you can share that 300 00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:54.559 information obviously here on the show. You talked about it earlier. 301 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:57.519 Some of your sources, for instance in the Jets building. 302 00:14:57.840 --> 00:15:00.480 Can you break down for the fans how do you 303 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:04.080 build sources in the NFL? How does that process work? 304 00:15:04.120 --> 00:15:07.480 Are you at a networking event and you're sort of, 305 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:10.600 you know, sharing some whiskey, are like, hey, buddy, and 306 00:15:10.639 --> 00:15:13.279 there's something there. Are you both at your you know, 307 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:16.759 your son or daughter soccer game, and then all of 308 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:19.039 a sudden your rubbing UMAs, Hey, what's going on? 309 00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:19.480 Like? 310 00:15:19.559 --> 00:15:23.840 What is the art of developing sourcing which ultimately helps 311 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:26.799 you with all kinds of NFL insider scoop each. 312 00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:30.159 Yeah, magician never reveals his tricks, right, That's how I'm 313 00:15:30.159 --> 00:15:33.039 just kidding. I'm just kidding. So a lot of it, 314 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:33.919 Paul comes from. 315 00:15:34.039 --> 00:15:36.600 You know, when I started my career, I was a 316 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:40.080 beat writer, So I was in the Eagles building every 317 00:15:40.159 --> 00:15:43.879 day for three plus seasons. I then moved over it 318 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:46.320 was promoted at NJ dot Com to cover the Giants. 319 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:50.159 I was in that building every day for three four seasons. 320 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:53.600 So you get to know people with practices your small talk. 321 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:56.879 You eventually maybe ask for the email address or the 322 00:15:56.919 --> 00:15:59.200 phone number, and you keep in touch that way. But 323 00:15:59.559 --> 00:16:01.960 so much of it comes during events like the NFL 324 00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:06.080 Combine and the Senior Bowl, and you know you're all out. 325 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:09.960 If you're in Indianapolis, there's about twenty different sports bars 326 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:13.000 within a half mile radius of each other, so you're 327 00:16:13.000 --> 00:16:15.399 out and about every night. Maybe I might buy a 328 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:17.960 Scotch for a general manager if I see him out there, 329 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:19.440 and maybe we chat a little bit. 330 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:21.519 Eventually grab the phone number. 331 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:24.639 You know, agents, if I have a question about a 332 00:16:24.639 --> 00:16:27.159 player who I'm covering on my beat back in the day, 333 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:31.000 you might forge a relationship about you know, building a 334 00:16:31.039 --> 00:16:34.360 feature story around their client. But they represent clients from 335 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:36.679 people all over the league at different position groups, so 336 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:39.200 you kind of bank that information away for when you're 337 00:16:39.559 --> 00:16:42.840 talking about a Trey Hendrickson who represents defensive ends, who 338 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:45.279 can I reach out to It's just a lot of 339 00:16:46.360 --> 00:16:49.120 text messaging back and forth, a lot of phone tag, 340 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:52.440 a lot of you know, pounding the pavement at events. 341 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:55.799 You know, Hecker flying to Mobile, Alabama. Not too many 342 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:59.360 people go to Mobile, Alabama in January or February, right 343 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:02.159 for the senior. So you're in the airport, you see 344 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:04.599 a dude walking around with a Cleveland Browns hoodie during 345 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:09.720 your connection in Atlanta. Chances are he works for the 346 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:12.279 Cleveland Browns. Right, So maybe you're fortunate enough to land 347 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:14.599 on the plane. You're on the same plane, maybe you're 348 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:18.359 sharing an aisle an ile on the plane, so you 349 00:17:18.599 --> 00:17:20.039 strike up small talk at the end of the flight. 350 00:17:20.039 --> 00:17:21.839 Any man, can I shoot you an email? Sometimes what's 351 00:17:21.880 --> 00:17:23.559 the best way to reach you? So you just kind 352 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:26.119 of build your network that way and stay in touch 353 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:28.279 the best you can. And you know, writing the column 354 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:30.200 each week, it gives me an excuse and a reason 355 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:32.680 to reach out to some of these people to stay 356 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:34.359 top of mind. And once in a while they toss 357 00:17:34.440 --> 00:17:37.559 you a scoop and other times they're just great sources 358 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:40.599 out of analysis and insight and extending the story to 359 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:41.279 the next level. 360 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:45.319 What an interesting mating dance. It goes on between the 361 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:49.960 inside and then the dance over here, Uscott here working 362 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:51.920 trying to get a number, trying to get an email, 363 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:55.160 trying to you know, smoke signal, pigeon carrier. What the 364 00:17:55.160 --> 00:17:57.160 hell's going on now? Very fair? 365 00:17:57.279 --> 00:18:00.039 Running to Brian Dable at a cigar bar in. 366 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:03.640 You know, one of those and these coaches that you 367 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:06.920 meet while you're covering a specific beat, think one to 368 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:09.440 coach other teams, and all of a sudden you start 369 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:11.200 to kind of broaden out that way. But yes, it 370 00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:15.200 is an extravagant mating dance and ritual for sure. 371 00:18:16.039 --> 00:18:20.599 Yes, you know that is fascinating again, and we'll continue 372 00:18:20.640 --> 00:18:22.720 to try to dive into that over the coming time. 373 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:24.599 This is something I want to get into. So I'm 374 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:27.160 glad that we got a super chat shout out about 375 00:18:27.160 --> 00:18:28.720 this every time we get one of these. Are here 376 00:18:28.720 --> 00:18:34.599 from my daughters, Ryolna raw Phill youngfl Film ninety eight 377 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:36.640 member for eleven months on the channel. I can't give 378 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:40.279 you a match, he asks, What is Matt's take on 379 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:43.200 the defense? What is your take on the New York 380 00:18:43.279 --> 00:18:44.720 Jets defense? You're Matt Lombardo. 381 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:47.279 Yeah, I don't think that group could have got any 382 00:18:47.319 --> 00:18:50.680 more fortunate than to land Aaron Glenn as the head coach. 383 00:18:50.720 --> 00:18:54.279 I mean, here's a guy defensive minded, comes from a 384 00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:58.079 hyper competitive culture which really tends to show itself on 385 00:18:58.119 --> 00:19:00.880 the defensive side of the ball. I'm a big fan 386 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:03.200 of the front seven. I think Jermaine Johnson, if he 387 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:05.599 can get fully healthy, this could be a big. 388 00:19:05.480 --> 00:19:06.039 Year for him. 389 00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:09.440 Will McDonald, I think that he was a guy on 390 00:19:09.519 --> 00:19:13.880 the Comma year ago and who can't be enthusiastic about 391 00:19:13.960 --> 00:19:16.119 Sauce Gardner and what he does on the back end. 392 00:19:16.200 --> 00:19:17.640 I think it's still a little bit of a work 393 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:19.880 in progress. But you know, I keep going back to 394 00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:22.400 the quote that resonated with me last year that they 395 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:25.000 were built to protect the leads. They didn't have many 396 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:27.319 of those to do a year ago. They didn't They 397 00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:29.839 weren't in a position to play defense the way that 398 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:33.599 they expected and were built to play defense. I really 399 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:36.000 think if they can get to more of a complimentary 400 00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:38.480 style of football, where the offense is pulling more of 401 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:40.720