1 00:00:02,359 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:16,000 covering Dungeon Crawler Carl Book four Gait of the Pharaoh Gods, 3 00:00:16,559 --> 00:00:25,199 chapters twenty seven and twenty eight. In these chapters, we 4 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:30,920 have got the face off with this giant meg creature 5 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,320 and all of her young in her mouth. It's harrowing. 6 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:41,399 I don't like it. For the record, however, it's taking 7 00:00:41,439 --> 00:00:44,960 care of faster than I expected. And then we have 8 00:00:45,000 --> 00:01:08,079 a Pharaoh god. Welcome to spoil Me. Welcome to the 9 00:01:08,079 --> 00:01:12,120 show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you very very much 10 00:01:12,159 --> 00:01:17,560 to Michael for commissioning this episode. And delighted to see 11 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,560 people here in the chat. Apologies because evidently they were 12 00:01:20,599 --> 00:01:22,760 here in the chat for my last recording and I 13 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,719 simply could not see them, which is irritating. But I'm 14 00:01:26,719 --> 00:01:30,519 glad I can see you now, so that's good. So 15 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:39,120 you guys, this look, I'm gonna be real with you all, 16 00:01:40,799 --> 00:01:44,000 and this isn't This is one of those things that 17 00:01:44,239 --> 00:01:47,840 I'm couching a little bit, and it sort of maybe 18 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,400 sounds like I'm trying to have it both ways, but 19 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,799 it's really just that I want to make it clear 20 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,640 I know that things are subjective and that how I 21 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:03,799 feel may not be how plenty of other people feel. 22 00:02:04,799 --> 00:02:10,479 But I think that I like this book the least 23 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,479 so far. The one thing that I have really loved, 24 00:02:15,599 --> 00:02:20,919 of course, was killing Loita, because that was just such 25 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,639 a fucking moment. You know, how do you not love that? 26 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:31,120 But I think that there is something falling flat for me, 27 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,719 and I'm having difficulty putting my finger on what it is. 28 00:02:36,719 --> 00:02:39,120 And it may be that I'll reach a point in 29 00:02:39,159 --> 00:02:42,520 the book where I start to sort of see, Okay, 30 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,800 this is what we were working toward, and it will 31 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,759 make me reevaluate how I see the rest of the book. 32 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:54,639 But for me, it's I haven't felt very interested in 33 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:59,919 our missions and the whole thing with like the Gate 34 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,759 of the Pharaoh Gods. It's like I figured that we 35 00:03:03,759 --> 00:03:06,199 were going to get manipulated into a place where we 36 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:11,879 have to use it. I didn't want this, but I 37 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:18,280 kind of figured like it, either narratively or via the game. 38 00:03:18,319 --> 00:03:20,919 And it turns out it's explicitly the game that seems 39 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,960 to be trying to make us do this right, And 40 00:03:25,719 --> 00:03:31,800 it just there's something about the quests and the setup 41 00:03:31,879 --> 00:03:35,919 with the bubble and working with other people that it's weird, 42 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:39,520 it's not hitting because last time in the previous book, 43 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,680 what I was enjoying was the fact that we were 44 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,199 working together and that we were having to like compile 45 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,719 information from all of these different sources and compare and 46 00:03:49,759 --> 00:03:54,879 contrast our experiences figure out exactly what's going on here. 47 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,080 And there was a sense the whole time of like 48 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:05,039 we're banding together, you know, and in this one, because 49 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,400 it's a much more personal level where we have to 50 00:04:08,439 --> 00:04:11,919 work with other people, but in smaller groups, and it's 51 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,159 not just we can do our own thing and then 52 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,720 compile information, but we actually have to work together on 53 00:04:19,079 --> 00:04:27,879 the mission itself. There's a certain frustration there that I 54 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:33,160 think is adding something on one level. You know, we 55 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,879 have these like dudes who are beginning to level up 56 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,319 and they're beginning to take things more seriously. They have 57 00:04:38,439 --> 00:04:41,560 been forced to take things more seriously by being fed 58 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,480 a potion that will keep them from being able to 59 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:48,600 get drunk. Granted, but there's something to seeing that that 60 00:04:48,759 --> 00:04:54,240 is satisfying. So I will grant that. I just think 61 00:04:54,319 --> 00:04:57,519 that my attention is being spread a little bit too thin, 62 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:03,879 and so there's a lot of names being brought in 63 00:05:04,079 --> 00:05:07,240 of people that I like don't know very well, that 64 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,639 I only sort of care about that I've only sort 65 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:15,600 of gotten to know, and it's it's making me feel 66 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,920 like I am less invested in many more parts of 67 00:05:19,959 --> 00:05:23,480 the story than I should be, considering that it's not 68 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,879 about that person. It's about whether they actually accomplish they're 69 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,360 part of the mission, because if they don't, we don't 70 00:05:29,399 --> 00:05:32,079 get to progress on our part. And I can know 71 00:05:32,199 --> 00:05:36,360 that intellectually, but it still doesn't really quite hit for me. 72 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:44,199 And I'm almost wondering, guys, if it's the aspect of 73 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,120 this all being like a game simulation and I know 74 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,600 it's not a simulation, but you know, that's like the 75 00:05:50,639 --> 00:05:53,720 way that you talk about it when it's this is genre, 76 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:02,000 that it being gamified. If that has sort of lost 77 00:06:02,439 --> 00:06:05,079 the luster that it had in the first few books. 78 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,439 And so now it's feeling like we need more than 79 00:06:08,879 --> 00:06:11,800 the missions, that we've reached a point where I'm starting 80 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,759 to be like, okay, you know, and granted we are 81 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,240 getting more. His attack on Loota is outside of the missions, 82 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:25,800 but it feels a little late and a little little 83 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,199 does that make sense? So, like I said, there may 84 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,240 be something that eventually comes up later and the Federal 85 00:06:33,319 --> 00:06:36,680 god Gate opening might be the catalyst for that. I 86 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:43,839 don't know, but I'm just there. Previously in my recordings, 87 00:06:43,879 --> 00:06:45,959 I would immediately as soon as I was done recording 88 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,639 for the day, I would put this book on and 89 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,199 be eagerly listening to the next chapters. And I am 90 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,120 not finding myself as pumped to listen, and it sucks. 91 00:06:54,199 --> 00:06:56,720 I don't like that feeling. And it's always this way 92 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,360 when it starts to happen, where you don't really know why, 93 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,639 why why isn't it really working for me? You reach 94 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,879 this place in watching certain TV shows as well. You'll 95 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,399 be binging hard for the first like two seasons, and 96 00:07:10,439 --> 00:07:14,959 then you reach season three and suddenly, all right, let's 97 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,319 watch the next one. And it's not like you don't 98 00:07:17,439 --> 00:07:21,480 want to know what happens, but you don't have the 99 00:07:21,639 --> 00:07:25,839 same drive about it where you absolutely have to know. 100 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,399 And so I just wanted to share how I'm feeling 101 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,800 regarding that. And this is not meant to be like 102 00:07:32,879 --> 00:07:37,839 a like talking shit about the book exactly, but it's 103 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,480 just a curiosity in seeing whether you guys felt this 104 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,480 way too, whether I'm really alone in this. This may 105 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,959 be a lot of people's favorite book out of the ones. 106 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,879 You know. I don't know, but I've just seen in 107 00:07:50,959 --> 00:07:56,040 myself a sort of slow down and cooling, and I 108 00:07:56,079 --> 00:08:00,199 don't I'm having a lot of trouble really pinpointing why 109 00:08:00,279 --> 00:08:03,199 that is. As I'm talking to you all about it now, 110 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,720 I'm still not really even able to truly articulate what 111 00:08:06,759 --> 00:08:10,519 that's about. And maybe as I talk about it, I 112 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:15,959 will figure it out. I don't know. So anyway, I 113 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,879 start with twenty seven. Once again, we are in this 114 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:30,040 new version of a Boss Battle where everybody is there 115 00:08:30,079 --> 00:08:35,440 is there are commentators in real time who are telling 116 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:39,120 not only the audience, but like it's also giving Carl 117 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:44,279 some information as well. And so there's a point where 118 00:08:44,759 --> 00:08:48,200 what's his face runs off and one of the commentators 119 00:08:48,279 --> 00:08:52,919 is like, he's running away and Carl hasn't noticed yet, 120 00:08:53,759 --> 00:08:56,320 And I just thought it was funny the idea that like, 121 00:08:56,399 --> 00:08:59,600 these guys are I think they are aware Carl can 122 00:08:59,639 --> 00:09:02,480 hear them. I don't think that's the issue, but it 123 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,200 was just funny to have it be that, like there's 124 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,399 a thing going on that Carl isn't is only getting 125 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:20,000 that information through these dudes. So anyway, the whole fight here. 126 00:09:21,039 --> 00:09:24,720 I've already jumped ahead a little bit with Vidim running away. 127 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,639 I just want to talk about that for a second though, guys, 128 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:32,960 because like this is one of those things where I 129 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,399 think about the way that I would react, you know, 130 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:43,480 And it's tough because if he had run away where 131 00:09:43,639 --> 00:09:45,480 while I was in the middle of a thing and 132 00:09:45,519 --> 00:09:48,720 I was depending on him, I will not lie to you. 133 00:09:49,159 --> 00:09:52,559 I would probably be like, well, fuck you forever and 134 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,120 go die. I don't think I'm alone in that either, 135 00:09:56,799 --> 00:10:00,120 Like everybody is depending on you and you just just 136 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:05,600 bailed the moment anything Like how fucking pathetic can you get? 137 00:10:06,519 --> 00:10:12,759 So I know that my temper would get a hold 138 00:10:12,799 --> 00:10:16,399 of me, and I also know that it's not really 139 00:10:17,279 --> 00:10:21,399 conducive to working as a group. I can know that. 140 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,960 Also doesn't mean that I really get to control how 141 00:10:25,039 --> 00:10:30,120 I'm reacting, but I can know that. But Carl is 142 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:37,519 so much more reasonable than I am. It's not exactly 143 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,320 that he isn't holding any ill will, because there comes 144 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,000 a point later where somebody says what about the deem 145 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,639 and he just thinks, can go fuck himself. I didn't 146 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,960 say out loud, so like, you know, he does have 147 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:57,879 that anger, but he does he like before even getting 148 00:10:57,919 --> 00:11:00,600 to a point where he's feeling like saying that out loud, 149 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:06,440 he is like not yelling at Vadim. First of all, 150 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,000 he's warning him, you're trying to take the escape pod 151 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,320 and it's not gonna work because we're inside the thing, 152 00:11:12,399 --> 00:11:17,159 giving him some advice, which it is self serving advice, 153 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,440 because if the guy tried to just steal the escape 154 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,600 pod and it didn't work, you're also ruining the like 155 00:11:22,159 --> 00:11:24,720 escape for the rest of us as well. I recognize that, 156 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,399 but I think that probably I would be very much like, 157 00:11:29,399 --> 00:11:32,480 if you fucking take that escape pod right now and 158 00:11:32,519 --> 00:11:34,799 it doesn't work and you ruin our getaway, I will 159 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,320 fucking kill you myself, Like I would be aggressive about 160 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,200 it because I'd be so pissed. And then later on 161 00:11:41,639 --> 00:11:46,600 he says something like pass on to Vadim that he 162 00:11:46,639 --> 00:11:49,399 should stay where he is and seal the door because 163 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,960 probably there isn't going to be a way out, And 164 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,440 again it just struck me that he's still kind of 165 00:11:57,519 --> 00:12:02,320 looking out for this guy, and Vatim deeply does not 166 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,039 deserve it. In my opinion, Carl was right to be 167 00:12:06,279 --> 00:12:12,279 worried about this guy's actions, indicating that maybe he was 168 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:21,440 a weasel, and I, uh, you know, it's like I 169 00:12:21,519 --> 00:12:24,039 want to sort of get out ahead of this as 170 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,000 well and point out that, like some people might get 171 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,480 defensive of an accusation like that and be like, you know, 172 00:12:30,519 --> 00:12:33,799 people aren't defined by just like one of their actions. 173 00:12:33,799 --> 00:12:36,360 But this dude, it wasn't one of his actions. He 174 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:41,240 repeatedly impregnated people, and that shows a continued pattern of 175 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:46,120 behavior and it is not great. That's not a one 176 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:52,639 time fuck up. It's a series of decisions repeatedly made 177 00:12:52,960 --> 00:13:00,000 over the course of time. So ma'am ooh, I uh 178 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:03,360 saw I just saw. In the chat, Sarahim says I 179 00:13:03,399 --> 00:13:07,039 loved this one, though maybe mid range overall, I don't know. 180 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,679 Michael says it might be partially that you're forced to 181 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,080 take breaks instead of binging the book. I noticed on 182 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,840 my third time through keeping myself to sticking to your schedule, 183 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,519 there was a loss of momentum for me that wasn't 184 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,360 present on my first two times through. That could definitely 185 00:13:22,519 --> 00:13:27,639 be it. Michael. It's interesting though, because like I didn't 186 00:13:27,759 --> 00:13:33,799 feel that the breaks detracted from the previous books, So 187 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,120 maybe that's part of it, is that there was still 188 00:13:37,279 --> 00:13:42,720 so much info dumping to do that the breaks were 189 00:13:42,879 --> 00:13:46,080 loaded with information in such a way. And when I 190 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:52,039 say the breaks, I mean like the non combat things. 191 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:57,240 There's like so much to process about exactly how things 192 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:02,879 work that I was given something to chew on between 193 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:08,000 recordings that expanded the world. And now it feels like 194 00:14:08,039 --> 00:14:10,080 we're getting a little bit less of that because we 195 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,279 know how a lot of this works, and what like 196 00:14:13,399 --> 00:14:16,639 the information that we're getting it's a bit more like 197 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,960 deep cut insider larger picture don't even have all the pieces, 198 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,639 so you can't really even theorize totally, you know, And 199 00:14:25,679 --> 00:14:32,559 maybe that's part of it. I don't know. So see, 200 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,120 I'm finding the spot where we get the description of 201 00:14:37,679 --> 00:14:41,600 juvenile octo shark level thirty and there's like a thousand 202 00:14:41,639 --> 00:14:46,679 of these, there's a ton, and we get the description 203 00:14:46,799 --> 00:14:49,960 about just like how they need food and how out 204 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,279 of the thousands that are born, only like two or 205 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,639 three survive that eventually they begin to eat each other, 206 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:01,120 and this later leads to Carl using that Berserker potion 207 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:07,559 on them, which is truly a master stroke in terms 208 00:15:07,679 --> 00:15:12,720 of plans, like that is such a good idea. I 209 00:15:12,759 --> 00:15:16,639 don't know how It never really occurred to me using 210 00:15:16,919 --> 00:15:21,519 a potion on another group, but probably I just wasn't 211 00:15:21,519 --> 00:15:24,919 really thinking about the way that it would disperse, because 212 00:15:25,279 --> 00:15:29,799 it being underwater makes this work in a way that 213 00:15:30,159 --> 00:15:33,440 it likely wouldn't work at all if you were out 214 00:15:33,759 --> 00:15:37,080 in the air, right, So I'm not going to judge 215 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:41,840 myself too harshly for this, but yeah, I just thought 216 00:15:41,919 --> 00:15:44,960 this was because I was like looking at that Berserker 217 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,039 potion when he got it, and I was thinking to myself, 218 00:15:49,039 --> 00:15:54,759 can I even imagine a way to use this that 219 00:15:55,000 --> 00:16:00,799 isn't like horribly horribly dangerous that you're not put everybody 220 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,720 on your team at risk. And the only way that 221 00:16:04,799 --> 00:16:07,320 I could imagine this working is if you use it 222 00:16:07,879 --> 00:16:10,759 when you are nowhere near your team, when you have 223 00:16:10,919 --> 00:16:15,440 been somehow separated from them by accident, maybe been captured 224 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,960 by somebody, and you have to get out of there, 225 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:24,120 and it's just a last ditch effort of like, let 226 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,039 me break out, and you message your friends and you go, hey, guys, 227 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,679 I'm taking this potion. I won't remember you, so stay 228 00:16:31,679 --> 00:16:34,399 away from me for the next like five minutes while 229 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,840 I absolutely lose my shit, and then come find me. 230 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,919 That was the only way, and even that I was like, 231 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,440 there could possibly be in PCs around you that you 232 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,039 don't want to hurt, or you could just wind up 233 00:16:49,039 --> 00:16:53,799 doing something that's so horrific that like Carl's got a 234 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:58,720 reputation already as somebody who is a bit out of 235 00:16:58,799 --> 00:17:03,720 pocket with how hard he goes in violence. We know 236 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,799 that is not fair and that he has been misrepresented, 237 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:12,799 and that there has been a concerted effort, in my opinion, 238 00:17:13,839 --> 00:17:18,240 to undermine him. I think because of the fact that 239 00:17:18,279 --> 00:17:21,559 he is so anti establishment in this that they are 240 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:26,839 trying to erode his credibility. And so if somebody who 241 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,839 is like Carl and wants to take down the establishment 242 00:17:30,559 --> 00:17:32,799 is seen as a hero by the people, they will 243 00:17:32,839 --> 00:17:35,640 all throw themselves behind him right away, and you will 244 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,000 have a problem on your hands potentially. But if you 245 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,880 manage to give him publicity that makes him look like 246 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,160 a fucking lunatic, then every time he runs across somebody 247 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,480 who could have been a potential ally instead they are 248 00:17:47,519 --> 00:17:50,400 going to greet him with hostility, which we already did 249 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:55,640 see with Lewison was his name. I can't remember's other name, 250 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,359 but so I think that that's why it's being this 251 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:05,240 way and all I could think was like if even 252 00:18:05,279 --> 00:18:07,559 if you use the berserker potion in that context, it 253 00:18:07,599 --> 00:18:11,160 could backfire so badly, and they could use footage of 254 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:16,079 you that there's like no possible way even out of 255 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:22,799 like even in context that it doesn't seem terrible. But this, 256 00:18:22,799 --> 00:18:29,880 this is really smart and really opportunistic, and really in 257 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:37,039 line with the overall the personalities of the creatures themselves. 258 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,279 I am I would guess that even were it not 259 00:18:41,519 --> 00:18:45,720 said that these guys eventually begin to eat one another, 260 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,000 I am going to guess that probably this still would 261 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,319 have worked on them anyway. But I think that it 262 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,480 worked extra well and quickly due to the fact that 263 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,559 they were already going to be heading in that direction eventually, 264 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:08,960 you know. Anyway, Yeah, I just I really enjoyed this. 265 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,200 It was just so unexpected. It was so efficient. You know, 266 00:19:12,759 --> 00:19:14,319 you just throw it in there and close the door 267 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,759 and wait for it to do its thing, and you 268 00:19:17,799 --> 00:19:20,759 don't have to fucking even be hands on anymore. That's great. 269 00:19:20,799 --> 00:19:24,400 It's even better than an explosive, because an explosive has 270 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,039 blowback that could potentially harm you. But this, as long 271 00:19:27,039 --> 00:19:28,759 as you've got the door closed and they can't get in, 272 00:19:29,519 --> 00:19:35,000 that's not even a fucking factor, you know. Michael says 273 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,039 the potion would also have been useful for any ho 274 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,599 door hold the door moments where someone is keeping a 275 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:45,519 hordback so the rest can get away. That's like, I'm 276 00:19:45,559 --> 00:19:48,079 not so sure about that, Michael, because here's the thing. 277 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,480 It really depends. If you don't remember who you are 278 00:19:52,559 --> 00:19:55,359 or wire here, or who anybody is, you may just 279 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,720 not hold folks back enough because you don't remember your 280 00:20:01,839 --> 00:20:05,039 job is to keep them from getting through you. I 281 00:20:05,079 --> 00:20:07,000 would think it would probably just make it so that 282 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,200 nobody's getting through me on fucking principle, like on GP, 283 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,160 I am not letting anybody pass me because fuck all 284 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,079 of you. And maybe that would just work blanket like 285 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,279 that and it would be still be fine. But for me, 286 00:20:19,519 --> 00:20:23,319 the memory thing is where it gets a little like, 287 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,480 I don't know how well that would work. It's sort 288 00:20:26,519 --> 00:20:29,480 of it depends, I guess, you know, on this on 289 00:20:29,519 --> 00:20:37,440 this situation, so anyway, it's possible, but it would have 290 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,279 made me nervous. There's really this is the only context 291 00:20:41,279 --> 00:20:44,640 that I can imagine where he uses it, and I'm 292 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,799 immediately at ease, going, oh, that's great, no concerns, it's fine. 293 00:20:49,079 --> 00:20:51,640 Like any other way, I would have been just going, 294 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,319 Oh God, Okay, what's the what's what's the blowback? What 295 00:20:54,440 --> 00:21:00,440 is going to happen here? You know? So there was 296 00:21:01,079 --> 00:21:04,480 let's see, oh right, he there's a moment here where 297 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,319 he's even thinking about using Hobgoblin Puss and is like, 298 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,680 I am burning through this shit so fast. This is 299 00:21:10,759 --> 00:21:13,920 very concerning. And then later on he gets a box 300 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,680 that has an ability in it that makes so he 301 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,519 doesn't have to use this shit anymore, which is super convenient. Again, 302 00:21:20,559 --> 00:21:25,559 I just want to like register my interest and concern 303 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,480 regarding what the AI knows about Carl and whether it 304 00:21:30,519 --> 00:21:34,680 can read his mind at all. I know it can't really, 305 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,960 because it's like it's there would be so many things 306 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,240 that if it could, he would already have been screwed. Right. 307 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,599 But you know, this has come up a few times 308 00:21:45,599 --> 00:21:50,079 with like the fan boxes as well, shit from his 309 00:21:50,319 --> 00:21:54,400 past that they have chosen for reasons to needle him 310 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,640 or just to like stoke his nostalgia that I do 311 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:05,720 not understand how they know to even put that there 312 00:22:05,759 --> 00:22:09,559 as an option. How much of his life are they 313 00:22:09,599 --> 00:22:13,119 aware of? Do they monitor every moment? Does the audience 314 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:19,799 get like a a reel of highlights of his life 315 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,519 to get to know him better if they were monitoring 316 00:22:24,559 --> 00:22:31,359 the whole time. Like, I'm just very, very curious and concerned. 317 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:39,200 So let's see guys into this stateroom. Why in here 318 00:22:39,279 --> 00:22:41,119 because this is the only room that won't break apart 319 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,160 and we can seal it. I just need a minute. 320 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,119 And this is when he does the thing, and he 321 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,039 starts to look at the the red dots and they 322 00:22:49,079 --> 00:22:55,079 begin to turn into x's. Meanwhile, he's talking to Dona, 323 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,119 and this is like the first time that you really 324 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,880 get an inkling. Every single escape round that they had 325 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,839 planned on having is getting taken away from them on purpose. 326 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,599 So you know, she was supposed to be up there 327 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,240 and that they were supposed to be working her into 328 00:23:12,519 --> 00:23:16,480 part of their escape plan. And then eventually when he 329 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,440 gets in touch with her, the wind mysteriously shifted in 330 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,559 a different direction and now we're flying the wrong way. 331 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,400 Oh no, yeah, okay, you know, like come on it. 332 00:23:28,519 --> 00:23:34,960 Just later on, Mordecai is talking to him about this 333 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,200 dude that is in the cookbook who has left a 334 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,920 lot of notes in there, and says something about how 335 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:47,599 eventually that guy died because one of his traps backfired unnaturally, 336 00:23:48,319 --> 00:23:50,680 and he's careful about the way he words it, but 337 00:23:50,799 --> 00:23:54,960 it's obviously like they had to cheat to kill him 338 00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:02,279 because he wasn't playing their game. And Carl is almost 339 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:08,480 elated by this in a which I understand of just like, oh, 340 00:24:09,279 --> 00:24:12,880 they had to resort to that, like it's embarrassing for them, 341 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:18,720 you know, which it is? It is, And I don't know, 342 00:24:18,799 --> 00:24:23,440 I just I understand why, even though it's sort of counterintuitive, 343 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:29,480 why he would feel like, ha, gotcha, even though that's 344 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,559 not good news. It's not it's not better for you, 345 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,519 they are in control in such a way. But I 346 00:24:36,519 --> 00:24:40,000 think it's just the knowledge that, like they got cornered 347 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,680 to that degree, even by somebody who shouldn't have any 348 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:48,920 power at all, that it's really kind of validating to know, 349 00:24:49,319 --> 00:24:56,720 you know, Oh my god, I'm so so sorry, guys. 350 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,720 But Michael said they might have an Amazon X ray 351 00:25:01,759 --> 00:25:04,519 type situation where they can click on Carl's name and 352 00:25:04,519 --> 00:25:08,960 bring up a full bio of his life. Oh my god, 353 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,480 that would make sense, it really would. But like you know, 354 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,880 Seraphim says, most of the major items were things he'd 355 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,640 talked about, but some of the rest likely various programs 356 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,440 were in stories on him. Well, things like, for example, 357 00:25:26,599 --> 00:25:31,240 the helmet, right, there's like a bike helmet that triggers 358 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,200 a memory for him, although that might not have been 359 00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:36,440 in a fan box. Maybe I'm wrong about that. The 360 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,599 tool chest one that was something from his past, but 361 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,000 I don't think he ever talked about that. The motorcycle 362 00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:47,359 that his dad like yelled at him about, that wasn't 363 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,599 something he had ever talked about. I don't think just 364 00:25:50,839 --> 00:25:54,640 you know, there's a number of things, even like the 365 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,920 photo with b and her ex boyfriend that was on Instagram. 366 00:26:00,279 --> 00:26:02,559 I don't think he ever said anything out loud about that. 367 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,480 I think that it happened right before this all started. 368 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,839 But I don't feel like he doesn't get personal out 369 00:26:10,839 --> 00:26:14,480 loud very often, you know, So there's got to be 370 00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:18,640 some other source. I don't know. But the Amazon extra 371 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,799 I think would be really really funny for those who 372 00:26:20,799 --> 00:26:23,279 don't know what that is. If you're watching something on Prime, 373 00:26:23,319 --> 00:26:26,799 you can hover your mouse over like a particular frame, 374 00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:29,799 sometimes an actor on the screen. It depends how interactive 375 00:26:29,839 --> 00:26:33,200 it is, and usually it's like the more big name 376 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,960 a franchise of TV shows or movies is the more 377 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,519 in depth it will be, but you will get like 378 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,960 a basically IMDb pop up of the actor's name and 379 00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:47,759 they're known for blank blank blank, and the few like 380 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,440 roles that really, you know, push them into stardom, and 381 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,960 it's really useful. Honestly, there's a part of me sometimes 382 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,759 that resents that so many other services don't do that, 383 00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:03,039 when it would be so helpful for me as a 384 00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:08,119 podcaster to have that. While I'm recording on Netflix with Supernatural, 385 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,000 for example, the number of times that an actor will 386 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,759 show up and I will be like, what are they from? 387 00:27:13,079 --> 00:27:15,519 And somebody has to tell me because I can't search 388 00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:19,079 them on IMDb because then it will reveal potentially if 389 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,759 they're a returning character or you know, if they die 390 00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:24,640 this episode. You can get spoiled really easily with that shit. 391 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,039 So I don't even look. But if it were on Netflix, 392 00:27:28,079 --> 00:27:35,759 it would be so helpful to me. So, Okay, the 393 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,599 I'm jumping forward here because I'm like halfway through and 394 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:45,319 I haven't even gotten through this one fucking section here. 395 00:27:46,319 --> 00:27:57,079 But eventually Carl manages to lure Luska into like coming 396 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,519 at them in such a way that she gets them 397 00:28:00,599 --> 00:28:07,599 part way into her mouth and he slams on Protective Shell, 398 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:13,240 and I just want to note how fucking useful, endlessly 399 00:28:13,839 --> 00:28:18,920 useful Protective Shell is. I swear to god, you guys, 400 00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:25,359 it's just repeatedly been fucking clutch. You know, there's a 401 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:30,559 few spells that a part of me is worried it's 402 00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:32,720 so strong that they're just gonna take it out of 403 00:28:32,759 --> 00:28:35,680 the game for other people next time, you know. And 404 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,880 I don't really think that, but like, it is so 405 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:44,160 useful this and the whole spell. There's just been a 406 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,519 few different things where it's like, I mean, practically unbeatable. 407 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,720 It's got its limitations, but you know, the fact that 408 00:28:51,799 --> 00:28:56,000 it doesn't move here again works for us. It worked 409 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,119 for us with the train, and it works for us 410 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,119 with this thing Protective Shell. It just seems like it 411 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:09,880 especially lends itself to large enemies or bosses that have 412 00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:14,599 built up momentum. If you have something like that, you 413 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,119 can use Protective Shell and just really fuck their day up. 414 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,799 And so it forces her like jaw upward and back 415 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:29,960 and like breaks it, which I appreciated extremely that they 416 00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:34,319 don't simply take this as okay, now she's dead. It's 417 00:29:35,119 --> 00:29:38,440 fucked her up, but it is not taken for granted 418 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:43,880 that kills her. And so this is when Katcha does Leatherface, 419 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,599 which is using the buzz saw that just like hangs 420 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,559 and it goes right through Lusco's brain and kills her. 421 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:58,240 And the buzz saw is just I don't think that 422 00:29:58,279 --> 00:30:01,079 she can retrieve it. I think that once it gets 423 00:30:01,119 --> 00:30:03,799 wedged into the seafloor, that's just sort of a wrap 424 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,839 on that thing. But it, God, does it come in 425 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:12,559 handy for this enormous fucking creature. And everybody is cheering, 426 00:30:12,759 --> 00:30:15,480 and you know, and then he gets the Notification Winner, 427 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,559 and he gets all of these achievements, he gets all 428 00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:24,000 of these box notifications, and Donut up top is like, 429 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,799 I just went up a level and I didn't even 430 00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:29,839 do anything. I should stay back more often. This is great, 431 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,559 but later on when she finds out that she didn't 432 00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:36,240 get a boss box, that she only went one level 433 00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:38,920 up while he went three levels up, she is so 434 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:45,200 pissed and I couldn't help but just look at her, like, Gurley, 435 00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:47,640 you were just really happy that you got this for 436 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,519 doing nothing, and kind of I mad, like you admitted 437 00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:54,400 you did nothing, and now you're pissed. No, no, And 438 00:30:54,599 --> 00:30:58,640 he expresses some real concern at the fact that she 439 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,720 is only level thirty nine. I think it's thirty nine, 440 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,759 and he's like forty eight or forty seven. She has 441 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:13,519 dropped far enough behind him that we are starting to 442 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:21,519 get into the realm of hecla, of Donut being forced 443 00:31:21,559 --> 00:31:28,359 to rely on Carl. And what's so upsetting about this 444 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,920 for me is that the only solution is for her 445 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,960 to fight more. But I don't want her to do 446 00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:38,720 that because she would just be so at risk, you know. 447 00:31:39,839 --> 00:31:43,079 So I just have very mixed feelings because I want 448 00:31:43,119 --> 00:31:47,440 her to advance. I want her to get more experience 449 00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:51,880 and be more involved. I want her to grow. But 450 00:31:53,359 --> 00:31:58,079 the further along in this we get, the more outmatched 451 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,279 she's going to be and the more dangerous it's going 452 00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:05,480 to be. And it just has me very like worried 453 00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:09,079 about her in a way that I haven't felt worried 454 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,920 because she has. Her and Carl have been on the 455 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,200 same level up until this, like they've been like, you know, 456 00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:20,920 one or two levels apart from each other. He has 457 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,720 tended to be mostly ahead of her. There had been 458 00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:26,279 one period I think where she was ahead of him 459 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:33,079 very briefly, But now we have had consistently him ahead 460 00:32:33,119 --> 00:32:36,400 of her and continuing to pull ahead of her. And 461 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,920 you know, a big part of this is her constitution. 462 00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:43,039 I think it is that's like really really low, and 463 00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:45,839 she didn't choose whatever it was that would have lent 464 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,079 her a boost to her constitution on this floor. So 465 00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:52,440 this has made her have to rely on him. And 466 00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:55,680 I really want them to like talk to her about this. 467 00:32:55,759 --> 00:32:58,200 And I know that the whole joke with her is 468 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,599 simply she doesn't listen. You can have a conversation with her, 469 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,880 she'll act like she gets what you're saying, and then 470 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,680 she'll just go right ahead and do what the fuck 471 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,519 she feels like anyway, And I totally get that, but 472 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,279 I do want them to sit her down this time 473 00:33:12,279 --> 00:33:15,079 around and be like, girl, you just picked the thing 474 00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:18,839 without constitution last time, and we tried to warn you, 475 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,000 and now you see you fall in like seven levels back. 476 00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:26,160 That's a result of you making a wrong choice that 477 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,039 we tried to stop you from making. I need you, 478 00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:32,160 if you are going to be part of the team, 479 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,839 to think about the team and not just what you want, 480 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,720 and also if it and also think about what you 481 00:33:39,759 --> 00:33:44,319 want in terms of long term because this isn't going 482 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:50,000 to be something that can be sustainable, you know, So 483 00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:55,559 I don't know. I'm just I am just worried about her. 484 00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:57,359 Like really, that's all it comes down to. It's just 485 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,440 I'm concerned. It's a lot of the theme of these 486 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,160 three chapters is just me being like oh no, over 487 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:09,119 and over again. Sorry, Misti says, I think the AI 488 00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:11,079 has access to all the data on everyone since they 489 00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:13,599 were monitoring and the game creators aren't personally going through 490 00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:17,280 Carl's life hand choosing things. It's AI. The AI decides 491 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:24,840 Toolchest for no reason. That's that sounds very likely. I 492 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,880 like that assumption, Okay, miss t Ai, Like honestly, in 493 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,599 the in the year twenty twenty five, being like AI 494 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:37,480 picked it is so believable right now, Like yeah, uh, 495 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,360 Seraphim says Carl assumed the tool Chest was to troll 496 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,320 him into picking a worthless prize, since the idea was 497 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,719 to get him to choose it because he thought it 498 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,440 would be full of all his tools that he'd mentioned 499 00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:50,360 wanting but was most likely empty. No, yeah, I get that, Seraphim, 500 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,639 But like they had to know about the tool Chest 501 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:56,679 to do like however, they were using it doesn't matter. 502 00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:58,559 I'm just wondering how they knew about it. They knew 503 00:34:58,599 --> 00:35:01,119 the exact model to pick, you know, like that's the 504 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,679 question that I have. Michael says it would be helpful 505 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,199 for certain book series, especially stuff like Wheel of Time 506 00:35:07,199 --> 00:35:08,920 and Song of Ice and Fire or One Piece where 507 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,320 there were huge gaps between books and a massive cast. 508 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,280 Some character shows up again with vaguely familiar name. Oh 509 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,559 my god, fucking's true, Michael. One Piece is so rough 510 00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:21,559 with that. These are the types of broken things they like, 511 00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:24,039 as it makes for really awesome, weird things the audience 512 00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:26,760 enjoys watching, but has enough limits that it could be 513 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,119 gotten around. That's true because I was worried earlier guys 514 00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:32,159 about you know, are they going to remove some of 515 00:35:32,199 --> 00:35:34,320 these spells from the game, But probably not, because they're 516 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,400 so spectacular a watch. Michael says, I felt bad. I 517 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,519 felt kind of bad for this poor shark to puss. 518 00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:43,199 She was just swimming around. I think you mean octoshark 519 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:48,840 living her best life, getting paid in delicious food to 520 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,599 to getting paid in delicious food to fuck not because 521 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,320 she had to since she was queen bitch of the ocean. 522 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,320 And she randomly gets walloped that's the thing with all 523 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,440 the NPCs, right, they're just minding their own business as 524 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,760 far as they know. They don't get it. And Saraphim says, 525 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,360 at least Carl actively wants to avoid having Doughnut be 526 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,719 wholly dependent on him. And we've seen that all it 527 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,480 might take is her getting a good item or spell 528 00:36:12,599 --> 00:36:15,079 to give her a huge boost. But that's the thing. 529 00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:18,119 We cannot rely on that either, that's still relying on 530 00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:20,599 like the system. It's got it. She's got to do 531 00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:25,599 something more like herself. And there was even the mention 532 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,599 from Loyda about or maybe it was Zev who said this, 533 00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:32,159 you're getting new spells and then you're not using them 534 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,199 and everybody wants to see them, what you know, like 535 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,119 use those more. And it's sort of in the same 536 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:43,880 vein you know of like the lack of participation and stuff. 537 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,519 Find ways for her to do things and participate more, 538 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,000 relying on the system to like give you good spells 539 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,519 and stuff. I understand to a degree like that's going 540 00:36:54,559 --> 00:36:56,920 to be a make or break, there's no getting around that. 541 00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:04,440 But I think it's a mistake too. It's just I'm 542 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:09,639 worried about it. I'm worried about it, and Michael says, 543 00:37:09,639 --> 00:37:12,039 to be fair to Donut, she's very very young, like 544 00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:14,519 Imani said, she's basically a kid. You were talking about 545 00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:17,159 her needling Carl last episode. But she does. But it 546 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,599 kind of reminds me of Robin William's monologue to Matt 547 00:37:19,639 --> 00:37:23,039 Damon and Goodwill Hunting. Will eviscerated him in their first session, 548 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,960 but then he realized will was a punk kid who 549 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,440 intellectually understood a lot, but who had no real experience. 550 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,760 Donah is like that. She understands a lot because she's smart, 551 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:38,840 but she doesn't actually get it. That's fair. Yeah, I 552 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,480 see that. Well, like I'm thinking more of because even 553 00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:45,960 within Goodwill Hunting, like Matt Damon is old enough to 554 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,039 get it intellectually, even more than I think Donut does. 555 00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:53,000 I feel like Donuh is in some ways just like 556 00:37:53,039 --> 00:37:55,679 a little kid who just says stuff and doesn't realize 557 00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:00,239 like that was fucked up, you know. But but yeah, yeah, 558 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,920 I think that she is smarter than they often give 559 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,440 her credit for, and that communicating a little bit more 560 00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:10,800 seriously and directly with her could have better. This is 561 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,119 always my thing, though, Like you know, I always am 562 00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:17,480 somebody who's like have a conversation with a capital C. 563 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,559 Sometimes that doesn't work for certain people, And you know, 564 00:38:22,159 --> 00:38:29,519 but I always think whether it's with people who who 565 00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:32,880 you sort of don't see eye to eye with or children. 566 00:38:33,199 --> 00:38:38,239 I think kids can be smarter than we let them be, 567 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,480 not even we underestimate them. But sometimes if you like 568 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,559 treat a kid like they're smarter, they will rise to that, 569 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,760 if that makes sense. So part of me is like, 570 00:38:51,679 --> 00:38:55,119 have a real adult convo with her about things, and 571 00:38:55,159 --> 00:38:59,280 she might surprise you because I think that she is 572 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,760 starting to see the long term effects of the choices 573 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:08,039 she's making. We'll see, we'll see. So anyway, we have 574 00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:11,760 this like brief moment that I'm kind of going to 575 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,880 summarize really quickly of them being outside in the ocean. 576 00:39:17,079 --> 00:39:21,840 They are getting a warning about the pressure and they 577 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,079 have to get inside somewhere. They're looking around. Vadim is 578 00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:28,440 in that like escape pod and he decides he doesn't 579 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,079 decide that it won't let him open the door again, 580 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,639 so he is just going to take off with it, 581 00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:38,519 and Carl is at first just like, ugh, must be nice. 582 00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:41,239 But then they get a message from Vadim that the 583 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:46,840 the pain amplifier, jellyfish are in there with him, and 584 00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:49,760 it's immediately followed by warning, this message is from a 585 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:54,840 deceased crawler. Yikes, was all I could bring myself to say. 586 00:39:55,639 --> 00:40:00,320 So eventually they have to use the portal to get 587 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,039 out of there. There's simply no way to ascend out 588 00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:07,599 of the water without like using up all of their 589 00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:14,000 time and drowning or being crushed or whatever. And it's 590 00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:17,480 interesting the way that the portal works, because you know, 591 00:40:17,599 --> 00:40:20,079 I had been when I came up with my theory 592 00:40:20,159 --> 00:40:22,639 last time, about like what is it that he's going 593 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,519 to do? And I was thinking about him bringing all 594 00:40:24,559 --> 00:40:29,320 the NPCs through. I was really thinking, it's like opening 595 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,360 a door and everybody can just like, as long as 596 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,599 we hold the door open, we can let all kinds 597 00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:39,719 of people through. But it doesn't seem once he uses it, 598 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:44,119 like Carl is in any control of the portal, it opens, 599 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:49,079 sucks him through, and closes within like a millisecond. And 600 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,960 I don't really know what the range is, like how 601 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,800 close do you have to be standing to it to 602 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,800 get pulled through? If there were two hundred people right 603 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,239 outside it, it just instantaneously pulled the whole group through 604 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,360 or do you have to be standing right next to it? 605 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,840 Like it just I thought it was going to be 606 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:15,480 a much less intense travel experience. And like when they 607 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,239 get to the other side, it pulls through a bunch 608 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,639 of water with them as well, And like down the 609 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,119 street there's a piece of rebar that's just like steward 610 00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:26,519 somebody's front door. And he realizes that if the gate 611 00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:30,880 was opened any longer, it would have absolutely obliterated the 612 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,400 town with all of this debris that would have come 613 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:39,920 flying through. So they go to an inn. And he 614 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:44,159 had been like sending up the warning before about getting 615 00:41:44,199 --> 00:41:46,280 everybody to a safe room. Make sure as many of 616 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,760 the NPCs are in a safe room as well. He's 617 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,559 trying to ensure that people aren't caught outside with whatever 618 00:41:52,760 --> 00:42:04,360 is going to come through. And let's see, sorry if 619 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,880 I recall, it only sucks him through because he was 620 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,719 in the ocean and the water was going through and 621 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:14,880 took him with it. Oh okay, Seraphim says, I think 622 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,199 it stays open until the gate device goes through. They 623 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,559 just got sucked through due to the water pressure. I 624 00:42:19,679 --> 00:42:24,480 got you, Okay, guys, I got it. That's interesting. Huh. 625 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,480 So it really acts like a physical opening. I was 626 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,480 thinking it was more like a gateway, you know what 627 00:42:30,559 --> 00:42:36,199 I mean. So whatever's going on out there, they can 628 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,639 hear it, like there's a lot of rumbling, something's walking around. 629 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,119 It's clear that it's a good thing. They are in 630 00:42:43,159 --> 00:42:50,679 the safe room and Donut is talking to him. Apparently 631 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,559 they have been trying to get Juice Box on board 632 00:42:54,679 --> 00:42:57,960 for some plan of theirs. We do not get details 633 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,840 about exactly what this is, but the overall plan it 634 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:09,320 seems like Juice Box is on board with. However, one 635 00:43:09,559 --> 00:43:12,400 Mordecai says she won't do it for free, and two 636 00:43:13,199 --> 00:43:17,320 Dona is like, hey, Carl, so do you remember the 637 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:23,559 complete nihilism that overcame fire Brandy and tis Quick when 638 00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:27,440 we told them that they were in PCs. I think 639 00:43:27,519 --> 00:43:30,199 that's happening with Juice Box. There's just a kind of 640 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,199 look that she got on her face when she began 641 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,719 to put things together, and the things she put together 642 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,159 were that like there was something she had thought was 643 00:43:41,159 --> 00:43:46,000 simply a dream, but she can actually turn into one 644 00:43:46,039 --> 00:43:49,719 of the creatures from that dream. So if it was 645 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,639 just a dream, how did she have that creature's form 646 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:57,639 in her inventory? And you know. It's just there's little 647 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,079 clues here and there that are pointing out things aren't 648 00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:04,639 what they look like to her, and she can't explain 649 00:44:04,679 --> 00:44:09,000 them other than with what they are telling her is true. 650 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:15,719 So you know, I mean, that is heavy, man. How 651 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,480 would you react? It's basically like being told that you're 652 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,679 in the matrix, But you can't just like force your 653 00:44:23,679 --> 00:44:26,840 real body awake somewhere because this is it. There's no 654 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,079 other way, other place to be. There's no getting out 655 00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:38,920 of it in the traditional sense, you know. So there's 656 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:44,239 a moment here where Carl says, Mordecai, are those feral 657 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,800 god things in vulnerable like regular gods are? Mordecai shook 658 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,360 his head, my boy. I have no clue. Now, I 659 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,880 don't know if this is like actually significant or not, 660 00:44:54,159 --> 00:44:56,480 but I just want to register my interest in the 661 00:44:56,519 --> 00:44:59,440 fact that he says, my boy, because I don't feel 662 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,480 like he has ever addressed Carl like that before, and 663 00:45:03,559 --> 00:45:07,519 it felt so paternal. And there's a point later where 664 00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:13,320 Carl is he gets a kerchief as a prize that 665 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,639 has like some you know, abilities attached to it, and 666 00:45:16,679 --> 00:45:20,320 Mordecai is like arranging the kerchief around his neck, and stuff. 667 00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:24,280 There was just something very much like paternal about the 668 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,360 way he treated Carl in these chapters that felt different. 669 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,920 And I don't know if that's anything. It may simply 670 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,519 be a coincidence and I'm putting them together, but I just, 671 00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:40,440 you know, it felt like something. So all all of 672 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,679 these different achievements, he gets one for rock Bottom and 673 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,320 it's like in a giddy read by the AI, which 674 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:54,199 he doesn't really get and fight the power and this 675 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:59,079 is seven times they get you and I have been 676 00:45:59,159 --> 00:46:02,239 named co defender in an action brought to the Syndicate 677 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,760 court by a third party, and we've been deemed victorious. 678 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,840 Why did they sue us? If you don't already know why, 679 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,719 you probably will never know. I was so bummed, guys, because, 680 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,440 like I know the general broad strokes of the thing. 681 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,119 I don't know the details, though, And so I was 682 00:46:18,119 --> 00:46:20,079 hoping that we would get more and I should have 683 00:46:20,159 --> 00:46:23,320 known that we probably wouldn't until like god knows when, 684 00:46:24,519 --> 00:46:29,719 But I still really want to know more. And he 685 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,840 says this is one of those rare achievements that may 686 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:36,199 be awarded more than once, and so he gets a 687 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,599 silver summary judgment box times seven, which I just love 688 00:46:40,639 --> 00:46:42,960 that the AI can stick it to them in this way. 689 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:49,400 Platinum Fan Box and then oh new Achievement soft var 690 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,119 VOR is one of those those kinks that, like, I 691 00:46:54,559 --> 00:46:56,760 there there are some kinks that I'm like, it's not 692 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,920 for me at all, but I kind of get it. 693 00:46:59,079 --> 00:47:01,199 VOR is one where I'm just like, nah, man, I 694 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,920 don't what you know, Like it just really nah, I 695 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:10,920 don't get it. You've received a platinum Spicy box and 696 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,639 then Flex in the City. You killed the City Boss 697 00:47:13,639 --> 00:47:16,440 with a participation of five or less crawlers. Flex in 698 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:21,599 the City is very funny. Honestly, that's pretty good. And 699 00:47:21,639 --> 00:47:26,679 then we get the prizes. There's Katcha gets like this 700 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,199 cool backpack thing. Donuts real salty because she didn't get 701 00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:34,320 any loop. I have to say, guys, I was talking 702 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:39,440 about like telling Donut that she's got to participate more, 703 00:47:39,519 --> 00:47:42,039 she's got to think ahead about what she wants long term. 704 00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:46,079 She's got to be worried about her holding up her 705 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,360 end for the group, and YadA YadA, and all of 706 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,920 these things to like motivate her. And the one thing 707 00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:54,519 that didn't occur to me was to just be like, 708 00:47:54,519 --> 00:47:57,840 you're not getting as many boss boxes as us. That's 709 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,960 probably more convincing than anything, because, like, let's be real, 710 00:48:03,079 --> 00:48:08,320 that's gonna be an immediate result that she's really going 711 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:15,079 to feel if she doesn't get it, and probably it's 712 00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:20,320 a language that she understands better. I don't know. So 713 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:26,320 he gets a potion of dinosaur repellent effect lasts thirty hours. 714 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,719 Drink this if your party is attacked by a pack 715 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,760 of dinosaurs and they'll eat you last. So getting seven 716 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:37,880 of those pretty pretty good. All seven of the silver 717 00:48:38,039 --> 00:48:42,400 judgment boxes contained three items. Oh that wasn't the one 718 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:48,079 that had seven. Sorry, that was the good heat. Let's see, 719 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,920 is that the I'm wetbox? Sorry, I'm trying to see 720 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,599 which one. It seems like maybe he only got one 721 00:48:55,639 --> 00:48:59,840 of those. Okay, yeah, the seven I forgot about it. 722 00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:03,239 Seven boxes have the stock certificates and the portraits of 723 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:08,239 the mothers of the plaintiffs, and it just feels like 724 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,639 kind of a dig at everybody who is a plaintiff, 725 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,960 just for like an immature, you know. But it is 726 00:49:15,159 --> 00:49:19,840 also kind of giving Carl information, and it's unclear how 727 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,880 much that's on purpose and how much it's just a 728 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,199 side effect of the AI wanting to be a dick 729 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:31,679 to these guys, and he gets ring of water breathing, 730 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,199 which turns him into an amphibian. Did you know that 731 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,639 all amphibians swallow their prey hole. That's such an interesting fact. 732 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:44,400 Enough with the vorcer, enough with this, And then he 733 00:49:44,519 --> 00:49:51,519 gets Drachia's enchanted kerchief of disorder. And this is the 734 00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:54,159 thing that is related to somebody that he has read 735 00:49:54,159 --> 00:49:56,360 about in the book, but he can't let anybody know 736 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,800 that he knows his name. And he gets information about 737 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:04,639 it from Mordecai and about the way that this dude 738 00:50:04,679 --> 00:50:08,199 like progressed and fucked things up for them, got given 739 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,679 a pretty solid offer and spat in their faces, and 740 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,199 then eventually they often like kind of illegally just to 741 00:50:15,199 --> 00:50:19,639 get rid of him. Cautionary tale. But maybe you can 742 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:24,880 maybe you can do it, Carl. He also gets a 743 00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:29,519 the Platinum Spicy Box three items. The first was a 744 00:50:29,559 --> 00:50:33,440 black sleeveless jacket made of thick canvas. The second item 745 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,960 was a tiny round patch depicting the planet Earth, and 746 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:42,639 the third was a small unenchanted sewing kit. And Donu 747 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,320 immediately jumps up and starts looking at the patch. And 748 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,559 this is related to the human like skill that she 749 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,880 was given, but they still haven't figured that out yet. 750 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,840 And it's also like not really important right now. I'm 751 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,079 curious when this is going to come into play if, like, 752 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,119 what possible mission could there be where this is useful, 753 00:51:03,639 --> 00:51:05,800 But right now it just results in her being like, 754 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,960 oh my god, it's a screen print. It's not even 755 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,000 an embroidered patch. Pathetic, And honestly, I totally agree with her. 756 00:51:12,599 --> 00:51:15,320 I can be very very snobbish when it comes to 757 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,840 certain things, and a thing being printed instead of embroidered, 758 00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:23,199 Immediately my opinion of it plummets and I'm just like, ugh, gross, 759 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,519 because it fades, it begins to like, the pattern will 760 00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:28,960 begin to come off. It just looks janky a lot 761 00:51:29,039 --> 00:51:32,960 sooner embroidery lasts, and it also has a consistent look. 762 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:43,199 It's just better so the uh jacket can. It's kind 763 00:51:43,199 --> 00:51:49,440 of bonkers. The plain unadored version of the jacket imbues 764 00:51:49,519 --> 00:51:52,960 plus one to all bass stats. Bas stats increase by 765 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,400 plus one for every compatible patch added to this jacket. 766 00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,159 If an eligible back patch is added, this benefit is 767 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:06,880 doubled plus fifty percent range and accuracy for all thrown explosives. 768 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,920 That is insane. There's also access to Desperado and Naughty 769 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:17,519 Boys Club, but like he has those already, so it 770 00:52:17,559 --> 00:52:21,000 will imbue the following upgrades. The patch plus five percent 771 00:52:21,079 --> 00:52:27,599 to strength immunity from cloud based attacks. Warning upgrade patches 772 00:52:27,639 --> 00:52:29,880 are fleeting items. You may remove them, but they will 773 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,360 be destroyed in the process, so good to know. If 774 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,320 you don't sew these on really carefully and close together 775 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,199 to make as much space as you possibly can. You 776 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,639 can't just like pull it off and put it somewhere 777 00:52:42,639 --> 00:52:45,199 else to make space you have. Where they go, they 778 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,199 stay unless you are okay with losing it, and that 779 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:54,039 is anxiety. This is why I don't use stickers on things. 780 00:52:54,199 --> 00:53:01,320 Is that sort of attitude. So note to self and 781 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:06,920 then the kerchief plus five to detect traps. Wearer may 782 00:53:07,039 --> 00:53:12,280 cast a level fifteen tripper spell once every five hours 783 00:53:13,079 --> 00:53:19,519 remote detonator benefit Tripper. A lot of people say crawlers 784 00:53:19,519 --> 00:53:21,719 who use the spell of Chicken Shit cowards, but then again, 785 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,559 those are the same people sitting at home covered in 786 00:53:23,639 --> 00:53:27,440 cheetoh mud watching the show while wearing pajamas. This spell 787 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,840 automatically triggers all passage, motion, heat and weight based traps 788 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:36,599 in a certain radius. Cost This is an item based spell. 789 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,880 This spell does not require man at a cast. If 790 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,679 you unequip the associated item, you will lose access to 791 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:47,079 this spell. The cool down will not reset target a 792 00:53:47,199 --> 00:53:51,280 ten meter radius sphere centered around the right hand of 793 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,920 the cast, or plus ten meters of radius per level 794 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:59,280 of intelligence duration instantaneous. This spell is one of those 795 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,400 good news back news situations. If you have your intelligence 796 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,719 high enough, you can automatically trigger every trap in the 797 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,239 quadrant with a snap of the finger. Blades will fall, 798 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,199 bombs will explode, electrodes w with zapp. It's great fun. 799 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:16,320 Here's the catch. This triggers the traps, it doesn't disarm them. 800 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,679 If you don't know why that might be bad, then 801 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,440 you're probably gonna die anyway, So I wouldn't worry about it. Yeah, 802 00:54:22,599 --> 00:54:28,159 it like it's not with certain traps in certain contexts. 803 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,480 It does its thing one time and it can't do 804 00:54:31,559 --> 00:54:36,760 it again. But I am guessing that in this universe 805 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,920 that's pretty rare and mostly a trap is going to 806 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,480 be able to do its thing over and over. So 807 00:54:43,679 --> 00:54:48,039 what this would really be used for is to see 808 00:54:48,119 --> 00:54:52,480 where the traps are and give you a chance to 809 00:54:52,519 --> 00:54:55,559 put up your protective bubble trigger the traps to see 810 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,679 what's ahead of you and what potentially could happen, and 811 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,599 then figure out your game play and to approach it. 812 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,199 But it may be that it results in disarming them 813 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,400 as a side effect, depending on how homemade and shitty 814 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,719 the trap is. And then remote detonator is the thing 815 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,360 where he doesn't have to use his hobgoblin pus anymore, 816 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:23,400 and he's just very delighted with that. So then we 817 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:28,719 get to talk about Drachea and he died on the 818 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:33,679 eleventh floor. They'd gotten him by cheating, but he had 819 00:55:33,679 --> 00:55:38,360 the last laugh. He'd helped bankrupt the Nagas. And that's 820 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,400 the thing is, when you do this sort of like rebellion, 821 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,199 you've got to be at peace with the fact that 822 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,119 likely you will not get to see the fruits of 823 00:55:46,119 --> 00:55:50,000 your labors. And that is so difficult. That is just 824 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,440 that is something I'm very hung up on, you know, 825 00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:56,039 in terms of like the concept of fighting for something 826 00:55:56,079 --> 00:55:59,199 when you aren't going to see the benefit. I know, 827 00:56:00,519 --> 00:56:03,199 there is a point that you probably reach as a 828 00:56:03,199 --> 00:56:06,559 person where it's a foregone conclusion that it doesn't matter, 829 00:56:06,599 --> 00:56:08,440 you're not going to see it. It's just the principle 830 00:56:09,519 --> 00:56:12,400 I probably will reach that at some point, but at 831 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,920 this point in my life that just makes me so sad, 832 00:56:15,519 --> 00:56:21,559 you know. And the stock certificates they're each for like 833 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,920 one share, it's not very much. We'll see how these 834 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:29,199 go up. I'm interested to see what happens, but they 835 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,880 may go down. It may be just to watch the 836 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,519 way that they get bankrupted, which would also be fun 837 00:56:34,599 --> 00:56:38,079 because he only has one share, so it's not like 838 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:44,679 he's not really that invested pun intended. It's just kind 839 00:56:44,679 --> 00:56:51,159 of an interesting way to access the message of the 840 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:58,679 market out there, you know. Mordecai says something about how 841 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,800 the AI just seems to be going insane and how 842 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,639 usually it does go insane, but it's like, way later 843 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,719 on in the game, it doesn't tend to show this 844 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:14,440 much personality this early. And then comes this weird moment 845 00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:21,679 where Lewis looks over and sees Epitome no Flex of 846 00:57:21,719 --> 00:57:24,360 the Dream a picture of one of the moms who's 847 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:28,920 like an elf looking woman, and he becomes obsessed with 848 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:33,440 her and takes the photo from Carl and gives it 849 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,000 to juice Box and is like, can you look like this? 850 00:57:36,159 --> 00:57:38,320 Oh my god, she's the hottest thing I've ever seen, 851 00:57:39,159 --> 00:57:41,719 and I'm wondering if is this what the AI wanted 852 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:46,599 was to just like create this like disrespectful scenario to 853 00:57:46,679 --> 00:57:54,519 embarrass people like I don't know, I don't know. Uh So, anyway, 854 00:57:54,559 --> 00:57:59,280 when they talk about the aid primal degeneration going primal, 855 00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:01,519 So what do they do when the krawl is over? 856 00:58:01,639 --> 00:58:05,760 Take the AI out behind the woodshed and shoot it? No, 857 00:58:06,039 --> 00:58:08,760 a MACROAI is a life form and it's protected by 858 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,440 syndicate law. They're given their own closed and sealed system 859 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,239 where they're allowed to bounce around for the rest of eternity. 860 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:20,360 Are you fucking kidding me? The computer's life is protected? 861 00:58:21,159 --> 00:58:23,880 I took a deep breath. This is not a conversation 862 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,599 to be having out loud. Yeah, I feel you, Carl. 863 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,480 It's really part of this is like, and maybe this 864 00:58:31,559 --> 00:58:35,679 is an aspect of why I'm feeling a little disconnected 865 00:58:35,679 --> 00:58:39,920 from the story this book. Every time that Carl mentions 866 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,519 like I can't believe the computer's life is protected something 867 00:58:43,679 --> 00:58:46,199 like this, where it's like so and so is given 868 00:58:46,239 --> 00:58:50,280 way more dignity and their death is treated with much 869 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:57,280 more gravity. It's meant to just impress upon me how 870 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:03,519 he and the other humans are enslaved in this system 871 00:59:03,559 --> 00:59:08,199 that is super unfair reminder, it's not a game. It's 872 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:14,000 joky and silly in the midst of actual, real death. 873 00:59:15,199 --> 00:59:19,280 But I think that sometimes it leans so hard into 874 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,840 the joking and silly that I even lose track of 875 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,199 the fact that, like, there are real deaths and real dangers, 876 00:59:27,079 --> 00:59:33,199 and that is part of what's like feeling more and 877 00:59:33,239 --> 00:59:37,440 more distant from me. And I think that's why lloyds 878 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,639 to being killed was like the highlight, not just because 879 00:59:40,639 --> 00:59:42,840 it's him acting out and we haven't really gotten to 880 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:47,039 see that in a real way, but because it's a 881 00:59:47,239 --> 00:59:51,400 real world repercussion that is reminding me of the stakes 882 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,320 and the way that she was talking to them, reminding 883 00:59:54,400 --> 01:00:00,239 us of the fascism that she supports. You know, It's 884 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,760 it was a moment of being reminded, like, what really 885 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,960 is happening here when a lot of the time I'm 886 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:13,800 immersed in a goofy world with lots of meta humor, 887 01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,960 and it feels like I don't have to worry about 888 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,079 my people because I know they have plot armor, and 889 01:00:21,159 --> 01:00:25,119 so I'm just going along jokey joke and with them 890 01:00:25,199 --> 01:00:28,519 and not really worried about them the way that I'm 891 01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:31,719 supposed to be, for this to for the threat to 892 01:00:31,719 --> 01:00:33,559 be at the front of my mind the whole time, 893 01:00:34,199 --> 01:00:37,280 and I don't really know about a good solution to that, 894 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:42,280 because I like, what's this solution to kill Donut to 895 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,039 up the stakes with Are you kidding? No? Like, absolutely not. 896 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:50,320 I can't imagine even taking her away from him would 897 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:55,719 probably be too horrible. I don't know. I don't know, guys. 898 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,920 So this one, he gets a message from Ellie who's like, 899 01:01:00,119 --> 01:01:02,440 what the fuck did you do? And Carl tries at 900 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:03,840 first to be like, I didn't do anything, and I 901 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,320 was like, Carl, are you that dumb? Of course you 902 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,840 don't think that this is affecting other people, And she's 903 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,119 like a flaming giant just smashed through our world. And 904 01:01:14,159 --> 01:01:18,079 he's like yelling for somebody over and over named Embress, 905 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,480 or no, he's named Embress. He keeps yelling for Orthris, 906 01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:28,480 who it turns out is the God's puppy, and they 907 01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:36,480 Mordecai goes and gets the Samantha's head and brings it 908 01:01:36,519 --> 01:01:41,119 out and she's cracking up and she says that Embress 909 01:01:41,199 --> 01:01:44,079 is a god. He has a bunch of kids, but 910 01:01:44,159 --> 01:01:50,960 only really liked the dead one. And Orthrus is his 911 01:01:51,039 --> 01:01:54,239 little doggie. He's so cute. Orthros got sucked into the 912 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,280 nothing accidentally at the same time as the son was murdered. 913 01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:01,599 It's a really long story, but Embres probably the dog back. Also, 914 01:02:01,639 --> 01:02:05,800 he's a big asshole, so don't expect a reward. And 915 01:02:06,119 --> 01:02:08,880 she gets into a whole story with like what happens 916 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:13,559 to people who offend him? And of course do'nut finding 917 01:02:13,599 --> 01:02:15,440 out that the thing he's looking for is a dog, 918 01:02:15,559 --> 01:02:20,760 she gets very upset about this, and then there is 919 01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:28,239 that other player who is a dog creature, and she's like, 920 01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,840 this guy is pounding on the bubble wall, calling me Orthriss, 921 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,920 and I don't know what's happening. And Carl is like, 922 01:02:36,039 --> 01:02:39,159 I don't get it. Wouldn't his dog be like huge? 923 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:43,960 Why would he make this mistake? But bro is blind, 924 01:02:44,239 --> 01:02:52,400 I think, Samantha says, And he, I mean it's maybe 925 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:58,880 that he just doesn't He can smell a dog, but 926 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:04,239 he can't see her. I don't know. And when she 927 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,840 gets in touch, first we get Bautista. We're going down 928 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,320 into the stairwell. A giant god thing is going berserk 929 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,079 out here, see you on the other side. So they're 930 01:03:12,119 --> 01:03:17,519 going down early and then surrenderl goore. We need help. 931 01:03:17,559 --> 01:03:19,480 I was crawling along the inside of the bubble wall 932 01:03:19,519 --> 01:03:21,559 looking for the last slot to put the final gem. 933 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,039 We were almost goddamn there. Then this giant empty eye 934 01:03:25,039 --> 01:03:27,719 socket thing appeared. It called me our thrist. Now it's 935 01:03:27,719 --> 01:03:30,559 pounding on the bubble wall. The mountain walls are starting 936 01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:33,199 to glow. Everything is going to melt. Someone help us. 937 01:03:33,199 --> 01:03:34,840 There's one hundred and sixty of us in here and 938 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,360 we haven't lost a person yet. We were almost done. 939 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:42,159 It's not fucking fair. I hate this so much because, like, 940 01:03:42,199 --> 01:03:45,199 it's Carl's fault technically, but the game made it so 941 01:03:45,239 --> 01:03:48,039 he had no other option. So they've done something that 942 01:03:48,119 --> 01:03:51,280 effectively will turn everyone against him, and there's going to 943 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,360 be there's like no chance that they will show in 944 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,840 recaps and stuff the reality of it, and it's just 945 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:07,239 it's effective, it's effect. So the chapter ends with we 946 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,880 need to get the real damn dog back to his owner. 947 01:04:10,239 --> 01:04:12,760 The only way to do that is to first get 948 01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,639 the bubble popped. Katcha said, we had less than an 949 01:04:16,679 --> 01:04:19,239 hour before the lightning was supposed to start. We need 950 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:24,000 to get moving, I said, So that's the end of 951 01:04:24,079 --> 01:04:26,760 the section, and I'm over time as I sell off 952 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:31,000 and am so I'm gonna wrap up, but I am interested. 953 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:35,760 I won't lie in finding a guy's lost dog. You 954 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,519 got me there, It definitely got me there. And also 955 01:04:40,039 --> 01:04:45,400 I just yeah, there's a lot of little questions curious 956 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:51,639 about Juice box her involvement in all of this. Only 957 01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:55,239 three more episodes left in this book, which is actually 958 01:04:55,239 --> 01:04:56,559 a little bit more than I was thinking. I was 959 01:04:56,559 --> 01:04:59,599 thinking that the next episode might be the penultimate, so 960 01:05:00,159 --> 01:05:05,039 further to go than I even thought. But yeah, all right, guys, 961 01:05:05,079 --> 01:05:08,519 well I will see you next week. Wait a minute, 962 01:05:08,639 --> 01:05:11,920 will I because I believe I took the week of 963 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:16,280 my birthday off, but I keep losing track of what day, 964 01:05:16,719 --> 01:05:20,360 and it is no, I won't next week. I am off. 965 01:05:21,639 --> 01:05:24,880 The week after that is when I will see you. 966 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,159 So I hope you all miss me terribly and are 967 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:33,639 desperately at loose ends without me, and I will see 968 01:05:33,639 --> 01:06:07,000 you after that. Do tolue, motherfuckers. That was an unspoiled 969 01:06:07,079 --> 01:06:08,239 Network podcast.