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<v Speaker 1>Here's your nine firstwenty one to forecast.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a sunny day to day highest seventy eight

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<v Speaker 2>I have eighty another clear night fifty seven, and another

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<v Speaker 2>sunny day Saturday for the highest seventy nine to fifty

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<v Speaker 2>two degrees. Right now, let's hear about traffic conditions from chuck.

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<v Speaker 3>when you need expert care. Southbound seventy five continues off

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<v Speaker 3>and on slow. Tyler's VILLEA two seventy five with the

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<v Speaker 3>right lane remains block. Northbound seventy one with a wreck

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<v Speaker 3>before Red Bank. That traffic back's close to Smith Edwards, Chucking,

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<v Speaker 1>The talk station.

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<v Speaker 2>AY twenty nine fifty five Krsite talks station Happy Thursday, Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>even extra happy every week because this time we get

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<v Speaker 2>iHeartMedia Aviation expert Jay rat Up on the program talking

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<v Speaker 2>aviation issues and often the stock market issues. To welcome

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<v Speaker 2>back to Jay. I always love having you on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>my friend.

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<v Speaker 4>Good morning to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's no details on this, and I found this.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going through preparing for the show this morning,

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<v Speaker 2>and anytime I see an aviation article of well, unusual one, anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I always printed out to talk to you about it.

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<v Speaker 2>There was there was speaking of unusual described as an

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<v Speaker 2>unusual odor.

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<v Speaker 1>You saw this one too.

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<v Speaker 2>The Quantis flight left Sydney, Australia on Wednesday and expected

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<v Speaker 2>to head on over to Wellington, New Zealand. Apparently I

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<v Speaker 2>had to turn around because well, an unusual odor was

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<v Speaker 2>on the plane. I guess one flight attendant fell ill

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<v Speaker 2>as a consequence. But that's about all we know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and we've had situations before. Where have there been

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<v Speaker 4>shall we describe a new odors that might have might

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<v Speaker 4>be coming into the aircraft. It might be from a

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<v Speaker 4>mechanical situations that's feeding something into the cockpit air that

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<v Speaker 4>is causing some discomfort and in some cases worse than that.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes it can come from other sources that you know

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<v Speaker 4>are more unpleasant, but they don't tend to have that impact.

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<v Speaker 4>Would be like a laboratory that's having some issues. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're going to err on the side of caution

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<v Speaker 4>each time because when they start having that take place,

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<v Speaker 4>you're worried about other passengers. But again, and I hate

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<v Speaker 4>to always have to say this, but you know it

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<v Speaker 4>from a legal standpoint, when they're made aware of something

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<v Speaker 4>that could be a potential problem, you are then measured

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<v Speaker 4>by your response to that situation that you know could

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<v Speaker 4>be an issue for your passengers. How did you respond

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<v Speaker 4>you were aware something was going on, what did you

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<v Speaker 4>do next? And you know that's one of the other

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<v Speaker 4>reasons that from the laws side of things, you want

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<v Speaker 4>to do everything you can to show that you are

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<v Speaker 4>responding to the event as it's taking place, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>why they are on the side of caution and normally

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<v Speaker 4>try to get that aircraft from the ground as soon

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<v Speaker 4>as they can to make sure that whoever's been impacted

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<v Speaker 4>can be treated, and also to make sure that they

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<v Speaker 4>can remove the passengers from the cabin before anybody else

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<v Speaker 4>starts to show any sort of reaction to the conditions.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, fair enough, that's just you know, we've had other

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<v Speaker 2>articles involving odors where we can trace it directly to

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<v Speaker 2>the source. Pretty comical and yet embarrassing for some. But

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<v Speaker 2>since the odor was it was not identified. I just

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was rather weird. But that is not to

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<v Speaker 2>tell people.

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<v Speaker 4>Bran. I've had to tell people over the years at

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<v Speaker 4>the gate area that they couldn't fly because they smelled

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<v Speaker 4>like they hadn't taken a bath in three years. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a that's a delicate conversation, that's what that's when

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<v Speaker 4>my agents call me, Jay, we need you out the

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<v Speaker 4>gate area and they go, okay, what's going on now?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you'll pull them off to the side and

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<v Speaker 4>you and you just as delicately as you can explain

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<v Speaker 4>that you know. And I always used to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>these seats are smaller than they've ever been. It's so unfair,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're on top of everybody, and you know this

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<v Speaker 4>and that, and unfortunately, when you're in that kind of environment,

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<v Speaker 4>some of the odors that you know, that are given

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<v Speaker 4>off sometimes in affect are the passengers. And it's not

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<v Speaker 4>an easy one to have because like telling somebody they're

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<v Speaker 4>too big to fit into a single seat and they

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<v Speaker 4>need to buy two.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, but you see.

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<v Speaker 2>Demonstrably, you can prove it by trying to fit them

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<v Speaker 2>into single seat.

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<v Speaker 4>But some people that maybe have a body yodor that

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<v Speaker 4>they are have grown accustomed to over the days, weeks, months,

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<v Speaker 4>they don't smell anything. But you know, it's like pigpin

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<v Speaker 4>on Charlie Brown. Everybody goes flying, you know, get out

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<v Speaker 4>of the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, let's talk like visuals.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I know anyhow, we have laser strikes. This

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<v Speaker 2>is This is when some idiot has a laser pointer

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<v Speaker 2>and he's pointing it at the cockpit of an airplane

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<v Speaker 2>is flying by. Is that Is that what we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about in the story.

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<v Speaker 4>It is it. And a lot of people are thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>come on, Jay, are they even that powerful? Yes, they are.

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<v Speaker 4>They almost look like a lightsaber. And I have no

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<v Speaker 4>clue because I don't think this way, Thank god, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think this way. Why anybody in their backyard grilling

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<v Speaker 4>that hamburgers late and I sees an airplane flying overgone,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I wonder if I could actually point this

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<v Speaker 4>laser up there and kind of paint this aircraft as

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<v Speaker 4>it flies over. Well, the problem is that when that

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<v Speaker 4>laser hits the ceiling of the cockpit, there's such a

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<v Speaker 4>bright light that immediately is thrown into the face of

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<v Speaker 4>the flight crew. They are momentarily distractive. Now keep in

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<v Speaker 4>mind they'ret a critical time of flight. They're on normally

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<v Speaker 4>on takeoff or landing, most time landing as they're coming

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<v Speaker 4>in low, and the last thing you want to do

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<v Speaker 4>is distract the pilots. Now, we've had some pilots that

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<v Speaker 4>have actually incurred eye damage because of this, some have

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<v Speaker 4>been forced to stop flying because of it. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think from what I remember from that report Brian in Boston,

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<v Speaker 4>this was we've had more than eight thousand of these

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<v Speaker 4>this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes. Now here's the issue. If you and I are

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<v Speaker 4>flying we get blasted with one of these things, we

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<v Speaker 4>notify air traffic control, who tries to tell us, as

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<v Speaker 4>we're flying three hundred and eleven knots or something, where

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<v Speaker 4>did it come from? When you're looking out the window

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<v Speaker 4>in the back, you can't. I mean your long pass

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<v Speaker 4>where it rights. And all you can do at that

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<v Speaker 4>point is to give the law enforcement people an approximate location.

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<v Speaker 4>And they hardly ever catch these people unless somebody on

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<v Speaker 4>the ground notices it and calls it nine to one

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<v Speaker 4>one to report it and thank you for everyone who does.

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<v Speaker 4>But these idiots, I don't think they understand, at least

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<v Speaker 4>I hope they don't, that they're placing the lives of

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<v Speaker 4>everybody on that aircraft at risk when they do that

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<v Speaker 4>kind of crap, and the idea that it continues and

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<v Speaker 4>continues and continues, and some of these numbers have escalated

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<v Speaker 4>big time over the years. I mean, we got to

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<v Speaker 4>catch them so we can start making examples out of people,

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<v Speaker 4>because I mean, throw them in jail, do something that's

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<v Speaker 4>the message that this kind of activity is absolutely well

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<v Speaker 4>dangerous in your endangering the lives of many people, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's totally.

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<v Speaker 1>Unacceptable, unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 2>I would also say extraordinarily anxiety inducing, because that laser

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<v Speaker 2>might just not be some punk idiot on the ground

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<v Speaker 2>trying to have fun, but it may be very well

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<v Speaker 2>be attacked to a high powered rifle or some other

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<v Speaker 2>form of rocket launcher or something that's got a laser

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<v Speaker 2>focus on it. I mean that would be the first

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<v Speaker 2>thing that went through my mind. I'm target im being.

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<v Speaker 4>Targeted, yeah, and some surface air missiles on its way.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a concern and it always has been, in fact,

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<v Speaker 4>prior to the attacks to nine to eleven, that was

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<v Speaker 4>our concern that surface air missiles were going to be

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<v Speaker 4>used against commercial aviation because sadly it's getting easier needs

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<v Speaker 4>and easier to acquire that kind of technology. And that

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<v Speaker 4>was way back then. Certainly the case now and the

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<v Speaker 4>aviation industry is you and I have talked about for

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<v Speaker 4>such a long time, Brian is always a target for

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<v Speaker 4>terrorists because the airline industry is an integral part of

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<v Speaker 4>our nation's economy. And when you go or stop the

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<v Speaker 4>movement of the passenger's cargo, me on all the things

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<v Speaker 4>within the airline industry in the twenty six thousand flight

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<v Speaker 4>today commercially or so that we have, it really can

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<v Speaker 4>have an adverse impact on our economy. So that's one

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<v Speaker 4>of the reasons because A gets a lot of press

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<v Speaker 4>coverage and b it impacts our nation's economy. Why aviation

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<v Speaker 4>has been and continua will be target, whether it be

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<v Speaker 4>airports or aircraft.

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<v Speaker 2>And with that recent advisory about the likelihood of a

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<v Speaker 2>terror episode increase soon as is all frightening stuff, Jay

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<v Speaker 2>right left, let's possible bring it back talking about things

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<v Speaker 2>getting weird on a call with Delta Airlines plus the

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<v Speaker 2>real id act and how that could be delayed more

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<v Speaker 2>with Jay right.

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<v Speaker 4>Left, be right back fifty five KRC President Sho.

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<v Speaker 1>Keeps in the system, Jay rightlift.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard be the AVASN expert pivoting over to Delta Airlines.

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<v Speaker 2>What got weird in your word over Delta Airlines today?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, there was a passenger, a man that had a

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<v Speaker 4>problem with his itiner came up. He his wife and

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<v Speaker 4>the small baby are traveling, so he calls Delta reservations

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<v Speaker 4>and of course it takes a while to get through.

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<v Speaker 4>Once the call went through, he noticed that the future

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<v Speaker 4>of his travel plans was in the hands of his

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<v Speaker 4>ex girlfriend. Whoops. Oh yes, now you can try to

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<v Speaker 4>disguise your voice. But the problem is they've got all

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<v Speaker 4>your information on the other side. Well, they pull up

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<v Speaker 4>the reservation, so the guy really doesn't know how it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to go. And then the woman on the other

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<v Speaker 4>end says, so flying first class with the wife and baby,

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<v Speaker 4>huh pretty nice? So, I mean apparently from that point

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<v Speaker 4>it went downhill fast. So he was asked later if

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<v Speaker 4>he gave the agent a five star rating on the survey.

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<v Speaker 4>He said no, he did not, but Brian, what are

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<v Speaker 4>the chants? And of course his wife sitting right next

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<v Speaker 4>to him during this awkward call, wondering what the world's

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<v Speaker 4>going on? But what's the odds of calling somewhere and

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<v Speaker 4>your ex girlfriend, which apparently may not have ended on

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<v Speaker 4>the best of terms, answers the phone, and she's the

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<v Speaker 4>one that's gonna try to save the day for you. Jeez.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just busily going going over my past relationships and

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<v Speaker 2>trying to remember whether I broke up with them or they.

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<v Speaker 1>Broke up with me.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm thinking, Okay, guy's got a baby. How recent

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<v Speaker 4>was this girlfriend?

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's another good question, Jack.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to think that way, but you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, it's twenty twenty four. No one would be surprised.

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<v Speaker 2>No one would be surprised.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh good, well they would be in some cases, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm glad they would be if it were your eye.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, we don't know about this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>That is true, all right? Well, the real id act.

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<v Speaker 2>Remind my listeners what that is and why it may

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<v Speaker 2>be delayed again and what that might what the implications

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<v Speaker 2>behind that might be.

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<v Speaker 1>Jay.

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<v Speaker 4>The attacks of nine to eleven take place two thousand

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<v Speaker 4>and five. Congress says we've got to have a way

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<v Speaker 4>that TSA can better identify any fake IDs people are

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<v Speaker 4>trying to use to travel. So we're going to have

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<v Speaker 4>the states have a consistent, uniform looking driver's license that

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<v Speaker 4>will be TSA approved, and everybody has until two thousand

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<v Speaker 4>and eight to get it implemented all the states. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>two thousand and eight approaches and guess what not, everybody's

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<v Speaker 4>got their homework turned in. So I had to delay

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<v Speaker 4>it three more years, and then they have to delay

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<v Speaker 4>it five more years, and then we have the pandemic

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<v Speaker 4>which caused them delay it three more years. And now

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<v Speaker 4>May of twenty twenty five. This you have to have

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<v Speaker 4>your homework turned in stage by the May of next year.

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<v Speaker 4>But now the TSA is saying, I think we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to need to push it back to twenty twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not everybody, Brian, it's what you act like. It

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<v Speaker 4>has to do with aviation security or something. You sound alarmed.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the big deal, right? I mean, it just it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I don't understand why you can't say this

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<v Speaker 4>is the deadline everybody. Now, if you didn't have it,

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<v Speaker 4>if you still had an active asport, you could use that.

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<v Speaker 4>There's fourteen I think different acceptable forms of identification on

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<v Speaker 4>the TSA website, and if you fly somewhere and you

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<v Speaker 4>lose your ID, don't panic. Get to the airport early.

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<v Speaker 4>And there are ways that the TSA can verify that

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<v Speaker 4>we are who we say we are. They even use

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<v Speaker 4>social media. There's a lot of things that they'll use.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll have to go through some extra screening, get ready

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<v Speaker 4>for that enhanced pat down. But the point is there's

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<v Speaker 4>ways to work. The TSA is easy to work with

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<v Speaker 4>in a lot of ways as long as you give

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<v Speaker 4>them advanced notice. But the problem with this real ID

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<v Speaker 4>act is it's almost going to be twenty years after

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<v Speaker 4>it was the deadline. But is that a government situation

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<v Speaker 4>or what? It just it blows my mind because I'm

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<v Speaker 4>thinking this is a security related issue and we're okay,

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<v Speaker 4>well the twenty year delay over when it's just well

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen excuse me, don't send me an email. I get

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<v Speaker 4>my math. But the point is it's almost two decades.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that that is mind blowing day. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>idea inefficiency of government never ceases to amazing. But that

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess the other component of it is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're talking about the reliability of any given piece

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<v Speaker 2>of identification technology has changed so much that manufacturing a

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<v Speaker 2>genuine in all thing way shapes and forms, complete with

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<v Speaker 2>hologram fake ID is possible, and it is currently being done.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people get in touch with our partners

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm told I've never seen them that they look identical.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen them they are look they look dead on jay.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And here's the issue. You've got these TSA people

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<v Speaker 4>you add that on top of the list. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the airports are moving towards facial recognition. That's what they're

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<v Speaker 4>hoping to use around the world. We're already testing it

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of different markets. You'll see the facial recognition

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<v Speaker 4>technology at airport ticket counters. It'll soon be at the checkpoints.

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<v Speaker 4>And the thought is, you and I can walk up

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<v Speaker 4>three seconds they're starting the process checking our bags. We

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<v Speaker 4>the TSA checkpoint. Instead of that, they facial recognition boom

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<v Speaker 4>away you go and even at the gate, same sort

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<v Speaker 4>of situation that allows us to then bord our airplane.

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<v Speaker 4>The thought is to make it more seamless as we

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<v Speaker 4>travel now, a lot of people that don't like government

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<v Speaker 4>don't want that, and they're saying, Okay, that's fine. You

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<v Speaker 4>can opt out of all of that and get in

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<v Speaker 4>a lane that is going to be dedicated for people

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<v Speaker 4>that aren't comfortable with facial recognition. But facial recognition is

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<v Speaker 4>already used all over the place. You ever gone to

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<v Speaker 4>Super Bowl? I guarantee you it's all over the place.

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<v Speaker 4>With reguards to security. Ever been in a casino, there's

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<v Speaker 4>so many things that are there that are already being implemented.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes from a security standpoint, we may or may not

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<v Speaker 4>be aware of it. Probably not so to me. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't mind it at all, because if they can, they're

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<v Speaker 4>also trying security where you walk down a corridor and

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<v Speaker 4>you're screened by different machines as you walk through this hallway,

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<v Speaker 4>and you only stop for screening if they've got a question.

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<v Speaker 4>If not, you never break stride from the counter to

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<v Speaker 4>the gate and a way you go. So they're trying

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<v Speaker 4>all kinds of different avenues with advanced technology to try

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<v Speaker 4>I love it everything they can do to make it safer, faster,

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<v Speaker 4>more convenient. For the most part, I'm all for. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't mind full body imaging scans. We need them because

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<v Speaker 4>that detects powder and liquid explosives, where the magnetometers only

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<v Speaker 4>used to give us metal if it's scrapped to our bodies.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're making the right kinds of advancements, obviously not

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<v Speaker 4>as fast as I would like, but the facial recognition technology,

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<v Speaker 2>It understood and real quick. Here on interested time, I

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<v Speaker 2>may very well be impacted by the longshorm and strike

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<v Speaker 2>on the East Coast and the Gulf Coast, is that

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<v Speaker 4>No, But when you're looking at some airlines are going

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<v Speaker 4>part from a maintenance standpoint. That's the issue now. Right now,

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<v Speaker 4>we're thankfully in the slowest travel time of the year

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<v Speaker 4>in September but we're coming into the next month, the

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<v Speaker 4>holiday travel season. That's Thanksgiving, always the busiest travel week

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<v Speaker 4>end of the air traffic middle of December on. If

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<v Speaker 4>means certain airplanes can't be used. Now, airlines might have

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<v Speaker 4>in the aircraft rotation, but you can only do that

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<v Speaker 4>from a flow control standpoint for so long, and then

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<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden, you're gonna have to start canceling flights.

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<v Speaker 4>That means fewer flights in the air, that means higher fares.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't want that, which is one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 4>that we need to get it resolved soon, the same

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<v Speaker 4>reason we want the Boeing strike to be resolved soon.

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<v Speaker 4>Boeing has like forty eight hundred back orders of planes

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<v Speaker 4>and it's causing the airlines to get fewer aircraft, and

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<v Speaker 4>they want more because they want to introduce more airplanes,

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<v Speaker 4>more seats into their schedule, and look, more seats means

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<v Speaker 4>cheaper fares. We want all this stuff to end quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm sorry that Boeing striking workers. A thirty percent

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<v Speaker 4>increase wasn't enough. They wanted forty percent. You know, when

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<v Speaker 4>they went through this sixteen years ago, Brian Bowing was

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<v Speaker 4>coming off their best year ever in profits, and the

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<v Speaker 4>people that were striking wanted a piece of the pie.

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<v Speaker 4>I get it. Boeing is not coming off their best

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<v Speaker 4>I'm really hoping they can settle this quickly and get

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<v Speaker 4>back to firing on all cylinders. They've got so many

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<v Speaker 4>issues they need to hammer out. The striker has got

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<v Speaker 4>to finish, but if it doesn't, it could start impacting

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<v Speaker 1>All right, and we'll close out as we always do,

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<v Speaker 1>a real quick hub delay.

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<v Speaker 4>I want a good day of travel. We've got at Minneapolis.

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<v Speaker 4>May give us minor delays. That's it. In honor of

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<v Speaker 4>you today our phone call. Yeah, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>a beautiful day to travel.

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<v Speaker 2>A great, great way to end the segment, Jay Rile

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<v Speaker 2>up until next Thursday. Best to health you and your

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<v Speaker 2>better half God bless you, sir. Look forward to next Thursdays,

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<v Speaker 2>eight forty nine, coming up with an eight fifty fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>Station right back, fifty five KRC. Home values in city

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<v Speaker 1>or sky high, and you have a ton of