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<v Speaker 1>Joining us now is Tom Kubanek, and he is the

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<v Speaker 1>CEO of a company called secure It. They have been

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<v Speaker 1>a military contractor in the past, but now it's about

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<v Speaker 1>eighty seven percent, he said, is a consumer market. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a product that you might be interested in. If you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a firearm, you want to be able to secure it,

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<v Speaker 1>have a rapid access gun safe type of thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>we want to talk about Second Amendment issues. It's very timely,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, with what is happening right now, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about the gun culture, second Amendment

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<v Speaker 1>in general. And so joining us now is Tom Kubanik.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for joining us, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you very much for the opportunity. I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>forward to the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>And well, it really has been over this last weekend

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<v Speaker 1>people have been talking about Second Amendment rights and the

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<v Speaker 1>gun culture from a variety at different angles. Is really

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<v Speaker 1>put at front and center with the shooting in Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we've seen some surprising statements from people that

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<v Speaker 1>are Republicans, people that are supposed to be allies to

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<v Speaker 1>the to the gun issue, and it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't be carrying a gun. Things that look like

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<v Speaker 1>their perspective is that makes you instantly dangerous and a suspect.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think is the really the threat and

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<v Speaker 1>what direction is it coming to us in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the individual liberty and the god given right of self defense?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your perspective on that?

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's really there's always the forces. There are always

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<v Speaker 2>the forces working to eliminate this right, and they will

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<v Speaker 2>seize on every opportunity to steer and manipulate and whatever

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<v Speaker 2>they can. But as you said, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>very much pro to a people who are now making

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<v Speaker 2>statements that would call into question like wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>what is your position? And I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>that is driven. I mean, if they're politically connected, they

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<v Speaker 2>want to be within a narrow realm of acceptable to

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<v Speaker 2>walking points without you know, alienating their base. But it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the Second Amendment sits, you know, as an icons as

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<v Speaker 2>one of ours. It's a fundamental right of this country,

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<v Speaker 2>of our of citizens. And that means it doesn't matter,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, how bad a situations, it doesn't matter politically

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<v Speaker 2>correct in buto the you know, the horrible nature of

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<v Speaker 2>what unfolded is I mean, it's a travesty what happened, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't get too detailed into the house and whis

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, we don't know yet exactly they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to dig.

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<v Speaker 3>Into this thing and pull it apart.

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<v Speaker 2>But regardless of what happened, the Second Amendment is still

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<v Speaker 2>stands for what it is, and we have the right

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<v Speaker 2>to carry, we have a right to own and have firearms,

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<v Speaker 2>and that right should have no bearing, no impact on

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<v Speaker 2>the events that unfolded other than there was a gentleman

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<v Speaker 2>who was exercising a right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we see this. A lot of people talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that in order for the general public at

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<v Speaker 1>large to understand what is involved here, they need to

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<v Speaker 1>have some contact with guns. I don't know your background

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of your contact with guns and how long

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<v Speaker 1>that's been around, assuming that it's been a very long time.

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<v Speaker 1>But a lot of people have hardened positions because they're

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<v Speaker 1>not really a part of that culture. They don't know

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<v Speaker 1>anything about guns, they haven't used them. But we're living

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<v Speaker 1>in a time where individual liberty is pretty much despised

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<v Speaker 1>in all different areas. I mean, almost everybody has driven

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<v Speaker 1>a car in this society, and yet we see a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of contempt for the right to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>travel freely. We just had a lot of Republicans voted

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<v Speaker 1>against the idea that we're going to stop this kill

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<v Speaker 1>switch that's been mandated, you know, so they want to

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<v Speaker 1>get a lot of Republicans who and pretty much nearly

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<v Speaker 1>all the Democrats who said that the government should be

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<v Speaker 1>able to shut down your car independent of you. We

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<v Speaker 1>should have some device somehow that's going to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the car that's going to decide whether or not you

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<v Speaker 1>should be allowed to drive and then shut it down.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen different things like that proposed for safety in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of smart guns and stuff like that. Well, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a smart car that's going to decide

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not you're allowed to use it. And so

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<v Speaker 1>even though people have had a lot of experience driving cars,

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<v Speaker 1>being passengers and cars and know the car culture here

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<v Speaker 1>in America, there's still a real uneasiness about car ownership

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<v Speaker 1>and operation. So of course we're going to see that

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<v Speaker 1>with the gun culture, aren't.

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<v Speaker 2>We Absolutely it's you know, the car thing is really

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<v Speaker 2>strange that the people are supporting this, And I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 2>there's not a bigger outrage because no, there is there

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<v Speaker 2>is no right to own or drive a car in

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<v Speaker 2>our constitution. However, the concept of a car didn't exist

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<v Speaker 2>when everything was drafted, and we do have a right

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<v Speaker 2>to move about in our country.

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<v Speaker 3>We do have a right to you know, we're self directed.

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<v Speaker 2>We have the freedom to do what we want to

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<v Speaker 2>do as long as we're not violating someone else's constitutional rights.

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<v Speaker 2>So you could simply, very easily draw a conclusion that

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<v Speaker 2>you know these rights we have. The car is simply

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<v Speaker 2>a vehicle to exercise our rights. It's a very accepted

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<v Speaker 2>it's the standard way with in which we Americans move around. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the government's going to come in and say, oh wait,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna be able to shut off a right. We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna because you're not Yes, you're stopping a car, but

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<v Speaker 2>you're shutting down someone's ability to move about freely. And

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<v Speaker 2>you can't argue that, well, you still have that a right.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't need a car. Well in our world, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>anybody knows if all of a sudden, unless you live

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<v Speaker 2>in a in a handful of big cities with public transportation,

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<v Speaker 2>that you feel safe riding with the cousins football, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it is, but it's again, I had a son who

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<v Speaker 2>lived in New York with the school there, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was never going to own a car in New York.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 2>But I live in a small town, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a car, that is a that's a punished

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<v Speaker 2>that's a sentence.

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<v Speaker 3>You are now confined. You're not moving around.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's that critical to our ability to move

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<v Speaker 2>about freely in our country.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. And of course the drafters of the Constitution

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<v Speaker 1>understood that the Bill Rights is not giving us rights,

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<v Speaker 1>and our rights come from God. What they were doing

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<v Speaker 1>was enumerating certain ones that they knew that we'd be

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<v Speaker 1>attacked at first, but they made it clear that if

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't mention, it doesn't mean that we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>that right. We haven't surrendered anything to you. And that

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<v Speaker 1>really is the case when we look at their intrusion

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<v Speaker 1>into our personal papers. They don't have to send a

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have to send an officer around to rummage

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<v Speaker 1>through our desks anymore. They can do it remotely through

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<v Speaker 1>our devices, and they can get into our personal papers

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<v Speaker 1>and all these other things like that. So it really

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<v Speaker 1>is we're the point where people don't understand why we

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<v Speaker 1>have these prohibitions against actions by God infringing on our

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<v Speaker 1>individual liberty. And they don't value these things because they've

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<v Speaker 1>always had them and they take them for granted. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're on the cusp of losing so many of our liberties,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, and so the Second Amendment is just one

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<v Speaker 1>of those, and it's the one that they've been coming

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<v Speaker 1>after for the longest time.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, I think you're I mean, it is, but

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that it is, I don't know if the

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<v Speaker 2>word is brilliantly worded, but it's so well worded in

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<v Speaker 2>our constitution. Again, and you said, this is not a

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<v Speaker 2>right that is given. The right is it's implied that

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<v Speaker 2>the right is at birth. It simply says the government

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<v Speaker 2>is not going to infringe on this right. So and

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<v Speaker 2>that's that is very carefully worded in our favor. And

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<v Speaker 2>as you just mentioned, though, what we're seeing happening and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people are unaware of it, it's everything else.

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<v Speaker 2>It's this chipping away of our individuality and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>working us towards what was a what did the new

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<v Speaker 2>head of New York City about collectivism?

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<v Speaker 3>This idea that we're not individuals.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the collective and the collective whole will benefit if

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<v Speaker 2>we have if the government has these powers, well that's

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<v Speaker 2>there's no world where I could ever imagine that somehow

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<v Speaker 2>we benefit because the government has a massive power to

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<v Speaker 2>limit our capabilities. I don't care what that capability is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just that's not who we are. We we have Again,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not our leaders. They are simply our representatives. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and when they start acting like leaders and thinking they're

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<v Speaker 2>in charge, that's that should be red flags going up

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<v Speaker 2>all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course history shows just the opposite happens. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you turn over all powers to the government. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what do we do? What is real security?

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<v Speaker 1>And how you know from your perspective in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>what you make available to people in terms of the organizations.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us a little bit about your corporation, how you

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<v Speaker 1>got involved in it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, secure it.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the global leader military weapons storage. We build

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<v Speaker 2>armories all over the world and now we are in

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<v Speaker 2>consumer products with fast access gun safes. Our methodology is

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<v Speaker 2>a little different than in the consumer retail space. We're

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<v Speaker 2>the only company that you know we come from a

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<v Speaker 2>military background. We look at firearms and firearms security and

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<v Speaker 2>safes and things like that from from the perspective of

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<v Speaker 2>why does someone own a firearm, and that storage has

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<v Speaker 2>to be conducive with why you own the gun.

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<v Speaker 3>To that end, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, everything we produce is smaller, modular, lightweight, affordable and easy,

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<v Speaker 2>easy to live with. The idea of a great, big, heavy,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, metal box full of drywall in your basement

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<v Speaker 2>is just it's it's there's a reason so many guns

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<v Speaker 2>in America are unsecured. And I talk to a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people and they all have the same statements, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a gun safe my basement, but for personal protection,

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<v Speaker 2>I keep one next to my bed, I keep one here,

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<v Speaker 2>I keep there, And.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you have that right.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you look at the data of the number

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<v Speaker 2>of tragedies, accidental, the things that happen annually in this

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<v Speaker 2>country that could be prevented very simply by simply providing

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<v Speaker 2>a simple barrier between kids, between unwanted people and your firearms, it.

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<v Speaker 3>Seems like a no brainer to us.

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<v Speaker 2>And now you know, we're at a point with fast

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<v Speaker 2>access gun safes, we can easily demonstrate that it's faster

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<v Speaker 2>to have your gun locked in a fast access safe

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<v Speaker 2>than to have it in a closet, leaning in the

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<v Speaker 2>corner of a room. I can demonstrate that my access

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<v Speaker 2>in my home. You you come into my home, you

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<v Speaker 2>would never know I own firearms. Yet I'm yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>never more than two and a half seconds away from

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<v Speaker 2>being armed if I'm at if I'm at my closet

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<v Speaker 2>or at one of my locations, I could be less

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<v Speaker 2>than a second. I also, you know, as you owner

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<v Speaker 2>of the company, I'm trying to prove a point. I

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<v Speaker 2>practice access. I make sure that I'm on top of

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm doing. But you know, one of our missions

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<v Speaker 2>is to make sure every gun in America is properly secured,

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<v Speaker 2>and proper is defined by out of sight. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you've got little kids in your home, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>need to know. And once they're old enough to understand, well,

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<v Speaker 2>then they should go to that you should teach them,

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<v Speaker 2>train them, and have them be very proficient with firearms.

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<v Speaker 2>The more proficient people are a firearms, the safer we

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<v Speaker 1>So it's I agree with that. Yeah, And we're the

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<v Speaker 1>point where one of the reasons I went to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you is because we're at the point right now

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<v Speaker 1>in our family, we have my son has got a

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<v Speaker 1>got to make sure that we've got everything secure for him, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, he's had a very vulnerable age right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've got to have this stuff secured. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the key thing. That's absolutely key thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I read and people send to me data all

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<v Speaker 2>the time and informous stories about accidental access to firearms.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, with with young boys, it's a I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to sound I mean it's more of a

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>We had hit a stick and he ammasiately points a

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<v Speaker 1>That was right. We had a friend who she was

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<v Speaker 1>very much did not like the gun culture and everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and she had a young son and she said, I

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<v Speaker 1>finally realized that it's just an eight. She said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I kept guns away from give him any toy guns,

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<v Speaker 1>and I look out and he's got a stick and

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<v Speaker 1>a stick, so you know, they know, and uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna they're just wired for that, and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to make sure we take the proper precautions

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<v Speaker 1>with all that. That's a key part of it, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>It is and educate.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, I get the argument not to have to have

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<v Speaker 2>a gun unsecured, and it's an old argument, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>based on old thinking. And when you look at what's

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<v Speaker 2>available now, there's no reason not to. There's no reason

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<v Speaker 2>not to have every single firearm properly secured. We've developed

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<v Speaker 2>what we call the principles of decentralized storage, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>really looking at your home the way I would look

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<v Speaker 2>at like a reactionary force in the Marine Corps. You're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to defend a like a base or a embassy

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<v Speaker 2>security force. How are we going to locate and deploy

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<v Speaker 2>fire in your weapons to make this place secure? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>look at your home the same way. We publish a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of information on this because the safest, most secure

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<v Speaker 2>locations in your home to store and secure firearms are

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<v Speaker 2>also the best locations to give you a tactical advantage

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<v Speaker 2>in the event of a break in a home invasion

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<v Speaker 2>or in some way that you're being threatened in your

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<v Speaker 1>That's very very important. Yeah, So, you know, what do

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<v Speaker 1>we do to get people to understand the gun culture

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<v Speaker 1>and what kind of messaging do we have to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about inside of the people who understand the importance of guns.

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<v Speaker 1>But in terms of the way that we talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>It, you know, I think intelligent conversation is better than rhetoric.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a lot of rhetoric on both sides of

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<v Speaker 2>this of this conversation. And it's my hope that on

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<v Speaker 2>people think a little bit and then speak and speak intelligently.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the Constitution is our side, is on our side.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't we don't need to have a loud, difficult,

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<v Speaker 2>yelling conversation about firearms. We simply need to express what

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<v Speaker 2>the Constitution gives us and what we have and what

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<v Speaker 2>it protects, and then just talk about the advantages of

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<v Speaker 2>firearms ownership. And I think a big part of that

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<v Speaker 2>advantage is training is understanding simply buying a firearm does

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<v Speaker 2>not make you more secure. Taking the time to get training,

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<v Speaker 2>taking the time to practice that does and I got real,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean real quick story's. I thought it was such

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<v Speaker 2>a huge win for the Second Amendment. We worked with

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<v Speaker 2>a software developer several years ago. He was out of California,

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<v Speaker 2>very liberal. In fact, he questioned working with us because

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<v Speaker 2>we were in the firearms industry.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was very up upfront about it.

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<v Speaker 2>He just said, guys, look, i'm a little uncomfortable. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be honest with you. I'm not a support of

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<v Speaker 2>the Second Amendment. I'm a little uncomfortable the idea of

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<v Speaker 2>working for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I simply said, look, I understand our mission is to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure every gun in America is properly secured. If

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<v Speaker 2>I achieved my mission, do you feel safer? And he

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<v Speaker 2>agreed with me. So we started working together. And this

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<v Speaker 2>was right when the defund police all started happening, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was fairly close to some pretty bad events and

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<v Speaker 2>he was nervous about it, and he went out and

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<v Speaker 2>he bought a handgun and he talked about it. I said, look,

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<v Speaker 2>getting the handgun is not going.

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<v Speaker 3>To help you. You need to take good.

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<v Speaker 2>Training, find a good instructor, find when you're comfortable with

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<v Speaker 2>work with them on a fairly regular basis for the

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<v Speaker 2>first couple of months that you need to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>if you're going to own a firearm, you get to

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<v Speaker 2>the range at least once a month.

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<v Speaker 3>And he said it's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Commitment, and he said okay, and was fascinating. Months later

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<v Speaker 2>he called me, he said, Tom, I got to tell

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<v Speaker 3>I love this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not shooting. He's now shooting. He was getting into

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<v Speaker 2>a class. Then he was joining a club where they

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<v Speaker 2>were doing competition handgun competitions. About four months into this,

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<v Speaker 2>he called me. He said, Tom, I'm going to buy

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<v Speaker 2>an AAR fifteen And I said, really.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I'm watching, you know what these guys can

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<v Speaker 2>do with the rifles, as it's the safest gun that

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<v Speaker 2>I can own in my home, which I agree with,

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<v Speaker 2>properly owned, properly trained a person at the air fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no safer rifle in America. And he is a

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<v Speaker 2>ultraliberal computer programmer guy who now is the Second Amendment supporter.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just watched it unfold. He felt threatened, he

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<v Speaker 2>felt alone. His vision that law enforcement is there to

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<v Speaker 2>protect me fell apart in the defund you defund police mode,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden he realized, the only thing

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<v Speaker 2>keeping me safe is luck that they don't happen to

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<v Speaker 2>come the mob in the street doesn't happen to come

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<v Speaker 2>into my home. And he viewed it was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a wake up call for him, and all of a

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<v Speaker 2>sudden he did the proper steps, and I commend him

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<v Speaker 2>for doing it properly. He now owns firearms. He's in

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<v Speaker 2>a very good position to defend himself and his neighbors.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure his friends and his groups have no idea firearms,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's.

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<v Speaker 1>People have to think about that, and they have to

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<v Speaker 1>I've interviewed a guy a couple of times from South

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I should own a firearm, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any interest. I don't think I could

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<v Speaker 1>shoot somebody or shoot at somebody. And yet there was

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<v Speaker 1>and so he said he saw people that were innocent

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<v Speaker 1>being shot, and he said, I realized then that I

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<v Speaker 1>have an obligation to protect innocent life, including my own.

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<v Speaker 1>And so he got a gun and he trained on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he only had a five shot revolver, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was attending a very large church, over a thousand people,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was just visiting it. But they said later

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<v Speaker 1>on during Truth and Reconciliation that they had picked that

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<v Speaker 1>place up of fully automatic weapons. He's way in the

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<v Speaker 1>back with just the revolver. Well, I'm going to try

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<v Speaker 1>so he takes a shot and he thinks, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to hit anything with that. So he ran out

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<v Speaker 1>the side and took some shots from there and they

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<v Speaker 1>ran off, and they said later on they thought there

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<v Speaker 1>were being attacked from multiple angles. He didn't realize it,

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<v Speaker 1>but his first shot actually hit one of these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you never know in a situation like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's one guy with a revolver, five shot revolver, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was able to defend these people. Now, when they

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<v Speaker 1>came in throwing grenades and firing automatic weapons, the immediately

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<v Speaker 1>killed about fifty people, but it could have been everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>They were going to kill everyone in that church, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was able to offend that off. So people have

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<v Speaker 1>to go through these decisions again. He had to think

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he had a result. It's a I always

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<v Speaker 2>tell people, and I talk to a lot of a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people on the firearms ownership and I say,

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<v Speaker 2>the decision to buy your first firearm should be a

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<v Speaker 2>life altering decision. You're if you're going to own a firearm,

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<v Speaker 2>which you're going to you know, use actively use or

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<v Speaker 2>use for home defense, for personal defense, You're going to

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<v Speaker 2>change your lifestyle going forward. If you're going to carry,

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<v Speaker 2>If your decision is to conceal carry a firearm, you

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<v Speaker 2>will be shooting on a regular basis for the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of your life. And they're you know, I'm very busy executive.

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<v Speaker 2>I travel a lot, and you know I have concealed

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<v Speaker 2>carry permit, I have all the proper everything you need.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's many times in my life I do not

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<v Speaker 2>For me, it's about decision decision making. And if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>at that time. That's a decision I make, and some

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<v Speaker 2>people say I'm nuts, but just that's just the way

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<v Speaker 2>I do it. And it also encourages me to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure I block out time to work with instructors, to

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<v Speaker 2>get the reps in, to just do everything required. You

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<v Speaker 2>know my background as a musician, and we practice and rehearsal, practice, rehearsal.

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<v Speaker 2>It's showtime, doesn't matter if you're nervous. It's showtime, and

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<v Speaker 3>It's the same.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the same thing against the same challenges. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great way to look at it. Yeah, my

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<v Speaker 1>on the range forrow while, he realizes it doesn't the scary,

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<v Speaker 1>As you point out, you need to be experienced in

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<v Speaker 1>the use of that tool, needs to be kind of

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<v Speaker 1>second nature. You know, there's a lot of different attacks

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<v Speaker 1>that are coming at us in a lot of different ways.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, I don't know if you saw this

425
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<v Speaker 1>or not, but the whole three D gun printer thing,

426
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<v Speaker 1>which they really are upset about. There's a new law

427
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<v Speaker 1>that's being pushed out in Washington, and what they're trying

428
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<v Speaker 1>to do is, even though this has been upheld as

429
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<v Speaker 1>a kind of a combination of the First Amendment and

430
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<v Speaker 1>the Second Amendment, the code for printing gun parts was

431
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<v Speaker 1>held to be protected by the First Amendment by courts.

432
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<v Speaker 1>It was challenged by Cody Wilson, and they won that fight.

433
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<v Speaker 1>So now the idea of the state government in Washington

434
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<v Speaker 1>State is to we're going to intimidate this. We're going

435
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<v Speaker 1>to do it as a partnership with the printer manufacturers.

436
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<v Speaker 1>So in order for them to be able to sell

437
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<v Speaker 1>the printer manufacturer, they're going to have to set up

438
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<v Speaker 1>a mechanism we can prohibit the printing of anything. And

439
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<v Speaker 1>when the guy started talking about this, this guy is

440
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<v Speaker 1>a three D printer guy, and he's not really focused

441
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<v Speaker 1>necessarily on just printing guns, but when he talked about it,

442
00:22:13.240 --> 00:22:15.119
<v Speaker 1>everybody thought, oh, you're just talking about printing guns and

443
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<v Speaker 1>we should shut that down. He says no, this is

444
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<v Speaker 1>about everything. He says, if you're a farmer and you

445
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<v Speaker 1>want to print a three D part for your tractor,

446
00:22:23.279 --> 00:22:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and John Deere says, no, that belongs to us. They

447
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<v Speaker 1>can prohibit that as well. And so when we look

448
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<v Speaker 1>at this, there's this massive interconnection of freedoms. And once

449
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<v Speaker 1>we start to pick and choose and micromanage which freedoms

450
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<v Speaker 1>are going to be exercised and how they're going to

451
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<v Speaker 1>be exercised, we all wind up losing everything in the end,

452
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<v Speaker 1>don't we.

453
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<v Speaker 3>I think.

454
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<v Speaker 2>So it's I find the three D printing. I actually

455
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<v Speaker 2>follow quite a bit of that. I'm fascinated by the technology.

456
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<v Speaker 2>I restore old cars as one of my that's my therapy.

457
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<v Speaker 2>And I've always talked to you about there's going to

458
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<v Speaker 2>come a time where you don't buy parts, you buy

459
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<v Speaker 2>the drawing and you simply print the parts.

460
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's that's a long ways down.

461
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<v Speaker 2>But printers are getting so inexpensive and the technology are

462
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<v Speaker 2>getting so cheap.

463
00:23:09.920 --> 00:23:11.759
<v Speaker 3>But it's it is new.

464
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<v Speaker 2>And when there's so many people, such a high percentage

465
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<v Speaker 2>of our population that is afraid of change, and it

466
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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter what the change is. You see resistance to change.

467
00:23:20.799 --> 00:23:22.680
<v Speaker 2>Yet every morning it's a new day.

468
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<v Speaker 3>Every day.

469
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<v Speaker 2>This you know, the secondhand is moving and every moment,

470
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<v Speaker 2>every every second goes by. Things are changing and advancing.

471
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<v Speaker 2>We should embrace this technology. It's there's so much good.

472
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're talking about our parts. You know. Jay Leno

473
00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:39.680
<v Speaker 1>has been doing that for a while because he's got

474
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<v Speaker 1>these very old car cars that he's got and nobody's

475
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<v Speaker 1>making any parts for them. We're going to see that

476
00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:47.960
<v Speaker 1>as well for much newer parts because it'll either be

477
00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:50.319
<v Speaker 1>the situation where there's not enough of them out there.

478
00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:52.759
<v Speaker 1>Maybe the government might even prohibit it because they don't

479
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<v Speaker 1>want you driving the old cars that aren't completely connected

480
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<v Speaker 1>to their control. So that is also other aspect for

481
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<v Speaker 1>people to think about. It all comes to the down

482
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<v Speaker 1>to the point where, uh, you know, they always want

483
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<v Speaker 1>to know everything that we're doing, might manage everything that

484
00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:15.200
<v Speaker 1>we're doing, and centralized control of everything, and that's seems

485
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<v Speaker 1>to be the current thread of where everything seems to go,

486
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<v Speaker 1>and that's where the stuff has been coming from for

487
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<v Speaker 1>the longest time. For firearms, you know, centralized and control

488
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<v Speaker 1>of firearms from Washington and then start shutting them down

489
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<v Speaker 1>one by one.

490
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's I'm surprised some of the things that have

491
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<v Speaker 2>happened recently.

492
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<v Speaker 3>I live in New York State.

493
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<v Speaker 2>We have the same fact where now I have to

494
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<v Speaker 2>do a background check, a state background check to buy ammunition.

495
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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't see. I don't see how this

496
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<v Speaker 2>has not been thrown out yet. I'm not sure it's

497
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<v Speaker 2>been adjudicated. It's a crazy rule. I'm limited in terms

498
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<v Speaker 2>of magazine size. I've I've got my limits, and there's

499
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<v Speaker 2>a list of guns that I simply cannot own in

500
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<v Speaker 2>the state.

501
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<v Speaker 1>Well, and.

502
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<v Speaker 3>It's an annoyance.

503
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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's for me when I look at home defense,

504
00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:03.839
<v Speaker 2>the actual firearm that I would use to defend myself

505
00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:04.839
<v Speaker 2>I can legally own.

506
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<v Speaker 3>Can I own a thirty round magazine? I cannot. It's

507
00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:08.960
<v Speaker 3>a ten round magazine, So.

508
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<v Speaker 2>That that changes a little bit of the aspect of

509
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<v Speaker 2>of how you use it.

510
00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:18.119
<v Speaker 1>But is there a limit on how many magazines you

511
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<v Speaker 1>can exact right now? They just want change out to

512
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<v Speaker 1>another one.

513
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<v Speaker 2>But it's it's again, it doesn't matter what the rule is.

514
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<v Speaker 2>It's that there there's a lot of people within our

515
00:25:28.839 --> 00:25:32.160
<v Speaker 2>government that just they're going to chip away at any

516
00:25:32.200 --> 00:25:35.640
<v Speaker 2>anything they can do, and it's just a big pile

517
00:25:35.720 --> 00:25:38.079
<v Speaker 2>of dirt of freedom in the middle of this room,

518
00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:40.319
<v Speaker 2>and any bit they can pull into their little bucket

519
00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:44.079
<v Speaker 2>and eliminate, they're going to do it. And sometimes I've

520
00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:46.400
<v Speaker 2>seen people like Tom, why why are you taking on

521
00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:47.920
<v Speaker 2>this fight? This is really stupid.

522
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<v Speaker 1>I said that.

523
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<v Speaker 2>You know, I hate to use the term slippery slope.

524
00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:58.440
<v Speaker 2>That's overused, but yes, sometimes you fight. You fight so

525
00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:04.279
<v Speaker 2>hard for grains of sand because you're you're stopping something

526
00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:04.799
<v Speaker 2>that's going.

527
00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:06.279
<v Speaker 3>To be that could become a tidal wave.

528
00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:10.559
<v Speaker 2>And a lot of people, I mean, you see it

529
00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:13.000
<v Speaker 2>just across across the world. A lot of people don't

530
00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:15.640
<v Speaker 2>react until it hits them personally.

531
00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:18.079
<v Speaker 3>At that point, they've missed their window.

532
00:26:18.279 --> 00:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>That's right, you know. Well, it's like Himmingway said, you

533
00:26:20.519 --> 00:26:22.880
<v Speaker 1>know the guy who went bankrupt that is very rich,

534
00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:25.480
<v Speaker 1>that's had had that happen, he said, Gradually, then suddenly

535
00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:27.720
<v Speaker 1>that's why we have that analogy of a slippery slope.

536
00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:30.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's what happens. At first, it's just a

537
00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:32.200
<v Speaker 1>short little thing, but then it really picks up speeding,

538
00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:34.640
<v Speaker 1>it accelerates. If you don't stop the trend, if you

539
00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:36.079
<v Speaker 1>don't see the trend that's coming.

540
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<v Speaker 2>No, you can stop a car rolling down hill. If

541
00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:41.000
<v Speaker 2>the brakes don't work and the car is just starting

542
00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:43.240
<v Speaker 2>to move, you can stand behind it and stop it.

543
00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Once it's going five miles an hour, you better get

544
00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:46.279
<v Speaker 2>out of the.

545
00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:47.200
<v Speaker 3>Way it's going.

546
00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:51.079
<v Speaker 2>And that's you know, it's it's we've done a good

547
00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:53.559
<v Speaker 2>job of stopping these freight trains. I really, I mean

548
00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:58.119
<v Speaker 2>we've I believe society has done a good job. And

549
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<v Speaker 2>I think the defund police was a huge as much

550
00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:05.000
<v Speaker 2>as it just shocked me what was happening. There were

551
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:09.440
<v Speaker 2>more two A supporters created when those when those laws,

552
00:27:09.480 --> 00:27:12.440
<v Speaker 2>there was those I mean laws, it's those those sentiments,

553
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Those things are being pushed forward in cities like Minneapolis,

554
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:17.680
<v Speaker 2>which I used to do a lot of business. There

555
00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:20.920
<v Speaker 2>was a beautiful city, beautiful downtown. It's never going to recover,

556
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:23.599
<v Speaker 2>and there's a lot of people that live there that

557
00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:26.119
<v Speaker 2>for the first time in their lives woke up saying

558
00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:31.079
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing preventing chaos from walking into my apartment or

559
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:33.200
<v Speaker 2>my condor or my home except luck.

560
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:35.960
<v Speaker 3>And I hated.

561
00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:39.079
<v Speaker 2>I hate to see things like that happen. To drive

562
00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:42.759
<v Speaker 2>support for what I believe in is just the simplest

563
00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:46.839
<v Speaker 2>way and the best way to live. But we're at

564
00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:50.400
<v Speaker 2>another point now where you know Trump is a lightning rod,

565
00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:54.680
<v Speaker 2>like he is a lightning rod personality, and there are

566
00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:56.920
<v Speaker 2>people that will go against the Second Amendment just to

567
00:27:56.960 --> 00:27:59.960
<v Speaker 2>small just just because he's on that side, I think

568
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:02.359
<v Speaker 2>gets very short, very narrow.

569
00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Focus, and he doesn't. He's not very comfortable in himself

570
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:10.000
<v Speaker 1>with it either, because he's never had any experience. I

571
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:13.279
<v Speaker 1>saw the interview with Scott Besson and that really got my, uh,

572
00:28:13.799 --> 00:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>got my attention over the weekend where he said to

573
00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:19.359
<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Carl his SoundBite that he came prepared to talk

574
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:22.319
<v Speaker 1>about was do you go to a protest with a gun?

575
00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:23.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, do you do you go to a protest?

576
00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Kept asking a question over going and he kind of

577
00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:28.799
<v Speaker 1>got Jonathan Carl to back, now, well, I haven't really

578
00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:31.680
<v Speaker 1>covered protest as a reporter, and no, I haven't carried

579
00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:33.799
<v Speaker 1>a gun either. And I thought about that. I thought,

580
00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I bet Scott Besson hasn't carried one either, because he's

581
00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>got an army of people to protect him all the

582
00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:43.519
<v Speaker 1>time that are armed. That was before he got into government,

583
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:46.119
<v Speaker 1>even he was somebody who was very very wealthy, with

584
00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>George Soros, and he's got his own army of bodyguards

585
00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:52.039
<v Speaker 1>who are armed to protect him. He doesn't need that.

586
00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:54.920
<v Speaker 1>And so you have people who grow up in or

587
00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:57.839
<v Speaker 1>live in that kind of a scenario. They don't see

588
00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:00.720
<v Speaker 1>the need for self defense because they've got an army

589
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:04.119
<v Speaker 1>of paid people who do it for them. And they

590
00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:06.799
<v Speaker 1>really can't sympathize with what we're doing, especially if they're

591
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:08.400
<v Speaker 1>coming from New York. They spent all their life in

592
00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>New York and they ever touched the gun. They really

593
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:13.839
<v Speaker 1>don't really understand what's going on with it.

594
00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:17.160
<v Speaker 2>And they never mean having to show a force the

595
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:21.079
<v Speaker 2>guards around you. It's not just that you're protected, it's

596
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:24.440
<v Speaker 2>that you'll never even see it. Because the bad characters

597
00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:28.279
<v Speaker 2>I always equate them to like bullies in school. The

598
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:30.960
<v Speaker 2>bad guys aren't looking for a fight. They're looking for

599
00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:36.359
<v Speaker 2>a pushover, and any bit of resistance perceived or otherwise,

600
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:39.119
<v Speaker 2>they're going to move on. They're not you know, if

601
00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:42.799
<v Speaker 2>they believe for a minute that you might have a firearm.

602
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:43.519
<v Speaker 3>They're not going to bother you.

603
00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:45.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're gonna look, They're gonna look. They want the

604
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:48.680
<v Speaker 2>easiest target. They're looking for. You know, all these they're

605
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:51.359
<v Speaker 2>looking for pushovers. And I talk about home defense, and

606
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:53.519
<v Speaker 2>I said, guys, all you've got to do is make

607
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:56.720
<v Speaker 2>your home look a little more secure than the next

608
00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:00.240
<v Speaker 2>house down the street, because the robbers, the burglars are

609
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:03.240
<v Speaker 2>going to go for the easiest target. And that happens

610
00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:08.400
<v Speaker 2>in personal safety. When you're looking at personal threats against you,

611
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:11.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, I just tell you just walk, walk like

612
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:13.279
<v Speaker 2>you mean it. When you're walking through an area that

613
00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:17.559
<v Speaker 2>you're a little concerned to stand up tall bull, walk

614
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:20.799
<v Speaker 2>with so much purpose, like you're ready to just take

615
00:30:20.839 --> 00:30:24.119
<v Speaker 2>on the world. Because a bad character is gonna look

616
00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:26.559
<v Speaker 2>and say, I don't know who that is.

617
00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:28.079
<v Speaker 3>But again, if.

618
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:30.559
<v Speaker 2>You're walking with your shoulders down, slow, your head down,

619
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:33.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of plodding along, you just look. I mean, you

620
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:37.720
<v Speaker 2>look like an easy mark. Sometimes that's a difference.

621
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:41.079
<v Speaker 1>And the week you're the weak animal on the edge

622
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:41.920
<v Speaker 1>of the herd right there.

623
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:48.240
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, most people I know that shoot and train and

624
00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:50.960
<v Speaker 2>carry firearms, you can just look.

625
00:30:50.759 --> 00:30:52.519
<v Speaker 3>At them and you're not gonna mess with them. They're

626
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:53.359
<v Speaker 3>not gonna draw them.

627
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:55.200
<v Speaker 2>They're never gonna be in a situation to draw the

628
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:58.079
<v Speaker 2>firearm because the fight's not coming to them. The fight's

629
00:30:58.119 --> 00:30:59.200
<v Speaker 2>going to the weak character.

630
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:00.680
<v Speaker 3>So, you know, the.

631
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:03.119
<v Speaker 2>More we can do to get people who feel or

632
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:07.000
<v Speaker 2>may feel vulnerable to just pause. You don't need to

633
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:09.720
<v Speaker 2>go out and buy a firearm. Just go to a

634
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:13.119
<v Speaker 2>training center and take a class. They will walk you

635
00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:15.920
<v Speaker 2>through everything. They'll provide you with a firearm to try

636
00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:20.240
<v Speaker 2>and get good instruction. Do it properly and see how

637
00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:20.680
<v Speaker 2>you feel.

638
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:24.359
<v Speaker 1>See if it's for you. You know it's well, tell

639
00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>us a little bit about your products. You're free to

640
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:28.680
<v Speaker 1>do a commercial here. Tell us a little bit about

641
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:31.279
<v Speaker 1>tell us a little bit about how these things operate,

642
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:34.000
<v Speaker 1>and you know what your design objectives are for it,

643
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:37.319
<v Speaker 1>and now they maybe are I've seen a lot of these.

644
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's your product or not. That

645
00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:41.799
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't know that's the safe. You know, it looks

646
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:43.359
<v Speaker 1>like a bookshelf or something like that.

647
00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:46.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, ours ours do look like safs. And what we

648
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:49.519
<v Speaker 2>do we take twenty five years of building military armories

649
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:52.880
<v Speaker 2>into a line of consumer products. Our safes are smaller

650
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:55.599
<v Speaker 2>and they're lightweight, and that's one of the biggest points

651
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:58.680
<v Speaker 2>of difference of US gun safes are big, heavy boxes,

652
00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:03.039
<v Speaker 2>because they believe when people see heavy they think security

653
00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:07.400
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing. Weight has nothing to do with security. Gun

654
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:10.960
<v Speaker 2>safes are breached with a circular saw and a carbide blade.

655
00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:13.039
<v Speaker 2>If you look at any bit of crime data, they

656
00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:14.880
<v Speaker 2>simply ignore the locks. They cut a hole in the

657
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:17.240
<v Speaker 2>side of the safe. My safes are some you know,

658
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:20.599
<v Speaker 2>the same thing can happen, But our safes are small, modular, shallow,

659
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:24.480
<v Speaker 2>designed to go into closets, designed to go into discrete locations.

660
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:28.839
<v Speaker 2>And then we store firearms per military principles, where it's

661
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:31.440
<v Speaker 2>straight line access to every firearm. You open the door

662
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:34.160
<v Speaker 2>of my safe and you've got straight line one arm,

663
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:36.839
<v Speaker 2>one gun. You're never digging through guns. Everything is. You

664
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:39.680
<v Speaker 2>can glance at the safe, you know everything's there. And

665
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:43.240
<v Speaker 2>we also integrate gun and gear storage. You know, it's

666
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:46.920
<v Speaker 2>a very modular, scalable system. Our gun safes in the

667
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:49.359
<v Speaker 2>military are referred to as the Lego rack and the

668
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Tetris rack because the armors just start at the bottom

669
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:55.680
<v Speaker 2>of each one and just build like like Legos. They

670
00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:58.400
<v Speaker 2>build exactly what they need in every single set, every

671
00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:01.720
<v Speaker 2>single cabinet to sew their problem. Our consumer products do

672
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:05.880
<v Speaker 2>the same thing. Our most recent breakthrough is what we

673
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:10.599
<v Speaker 2>call HsfA locking high Stress fast access locking. We were

674
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:15.319
<v Speaker 2>hosting a training event just to learn more about access,

675
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:18.680
<v Speaker 2>to learn more about scenarios that unfold, and we were

676
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:21.240
<v Speaker 2>doing force on force training in a shoot house where

677
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:25.279
<v Speaker 2>you're simulating home invasions and office brake ins, and we

678
00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:28.759
<v Speaker 2>determine when you trigger someone into fight or flight. These

679
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:32.279
<v Speaker 2>guys are all experienced shooters, but we could trigger them

680
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:35.559
<v Speaker 2>into that panic mode. They could not open a simple

681
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:38.319
<v Speaker 2>gun safe the buttons they could because when you go

682
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:40.839
<v Speaker 2>fight or flight, you lose find motor skills, you developed

683
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:44.519
<v Speaker 2>tunnel vision, your cognitive abilities reduced. So I got back

684
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:46.599
<v Speaker 2>from that event and a day later I had this

685
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:49.519
<v Speaker 2>new lock design drawn up. Within six months, it was

686
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:53.039
<v Speaker 2>incorporated across our entire line and it's a locking solution.

687
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:54.599
<v Speaker 3>It's a very simple.

688
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Very secure, but it's designed to give you the fastest

689
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:00.960
<v Speaker 2>possible access when you're under very high stress, like if

690
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:04.039
<v Speaker 2>somebody home invasion, You've got a second and a half

691
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:07.359
<v Speaker 2>two seconds, maybe somebody's shooting at you, you're in panic mode.

692
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Our locking solution puts you in a position to get

693
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:12.559
<v Speaker 2>retrieve your firearm very quickly and defend yourself.

694
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:14.760
<v Speaker 3>That's the newest thing we've done.

695
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:16.800
<v Speaker 1>So how does how does it open up.

696
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:19.920
<v Speaker 2>It's just a it's a it's a push push button

697
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:23.079
<v Speaker 2>locks which releases the safe. Simply, it's a handle. You

698
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:26.960
<v Speaker 2>just turn a handle open the door. Ergonomically, we position

699
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:29.840
<v Speaker 2>all the guns so that and we have videos on

700
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:32.840
<v Speaker 2>how to set up your safe fastest possible access whether

701
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:35.840
<v Speaker 2>it's a rifle or a handgun. And it positions a firearm,

702
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:37.360
<v Speaker 2>so I retrieve the firearm.

703
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:38.320
<v Speaker 3>I retrieve it.

704
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Like for me, if it's an air fifteen, left hand

705
00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:43.760
<v Speaker 2>on grip, it comes up and in a one simple motion,

706
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:47.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm in a ready position to defend myself with handguns.

707
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:50.199
<v Speaker 2>The door accessing is a little different. We're gonna you're

708
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:53.800
<v Speaker 2>positioning things so the safe pops open. When the firearm

709
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:55.519
<v Speaker 2>comes out of the safe, you are in a low

710
00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:58.119
<v Speaker 2>ready position or high ready depending on the location of

711
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:02.119
<v Speaker 2>the safe. But it's we're the only company that really

712
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:06.519
<v Speaker 2>thinks about the ergonomics and the actual flow of what

713
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:09.880
<v Speaker 2>people are doing when they need to access a firearm

714
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:12.119
<v Speaker 2>very very quickly. So we really and this goes back

715
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:14.840
<v Speaker 2>to our military, working with the Marine Corps, the Reaction

716
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:18.639
<v Speaker 2>force teams, working with special forces, the high speed teams,

717
00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:23.559
<v Speaker 2>where everything has to be seconds everything, and it has

718
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:26.519
<v Speaker 2>to be you know, the old slowest, smooth, smooth as fast.

719
00:35:26.599 --> 00:35:32.599
<v Speaker 2>We follow that idea that the simplest path is usually

720
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:35.880
<v Speaker 2>the best. There's there's just it's what we do is

721
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:39.159
<v Speaker 2>very simple. It's just nobody in firearm storage ever thought

722
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:39.519
<v Speaker 2>about it.

723
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:40.519
<v Speaker 3>You know, gun saves.

724
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Nothing wrong with gun saves. They're just all the same.

725
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:45.320
<v Speaker 2>It's a big box full a little wus and you

726
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:47.639
<v Speaker 2>pack all your guns in there. We also do not

727
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:50.440
<v Speaker 2>we do not offer fire ratings on our core products.

728
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Fire ratings are nonsense.

729
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:56.559
<v Speaker 1>It's get out quickly fire you can get it out.

730
00:35:56.639 --> 00:35:58.960
<v Speaker 2>So the whole fire rating system, the whole fire rating

731
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:01.519
<v Speaker 2>system is not honest. It really, I've done it. I

732
00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:05.639
<v Speaker 2>posted a lot on this. It is a horribly flawed system. No,

733
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.400
<v Speaker 2>your guns will not survive in a hot fire.

734
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:08.920
<v Speaker 3>They won't.

735
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:12.960
<v Speaker 2>And even if they look okay, you'll never know how

736
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:15.639
<v Speaker 2>hot they got. Your hardened steels not harden. Your annealed

737
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:18.320
<v Speaker 2>barrel may not be annealed. You're never gonna shoot them again.

738
00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:21.159
<v Speaker 2>We do make one. We call it the True Safe.

739
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:24.639
<v Speaker 2>It's a double walled, cement filled safe. We make it

740
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:28.599
<v Speaker 2>to prove a point that if you want fire safety

741
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:31.639
<v Speaker 2>fire capacity fire rating. This is what it takes.

742
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:32.760
<v Speaker 1>It's a beast.

743
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:35.039
<v Speaker 3>It's just under two thousand pounds.

744
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:38.199
<v Speaker 2>When you buy it from us, we install it, We

745
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:41.079
<v Speaker 2>send a crew, they install it. You're never gonna move

746
00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:43.719
<v Speaker 2>this thing. Do people need it? No, We made it

747
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:46.320
<v Speaker 2>to prove a point. We do sell and they're very

748
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:48.960
<v Speaker 2>popular with coin collectors we find, but we do sell

749
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:49.800
<v Speaker 2>a handful.

750
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:50.079
<v Speaker 3>Of them a month.

751
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:53.320
<v Speaker 2>But really we made it just to show the gun

752
00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:56.800
<v Speaker 2>industry the world. This is what a fire rating is,

753
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:00.880
<v Speaker 2>this is what it takes. But you don't need a

754
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:03.440
<v Speaker 2>fire rating. The risk of your home burning down is

755
00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:08.440
<v Speaker 2>so rare that you know, going through all that nonsense

756
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:11.360
<v Speaker 2>and all that weight, and all the materials they use

757
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:13.719
<v Speaker 2>are all banned from use in armor. Of the dry wall,

758
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:17.079
<v Speaker 2>the carpeting, the adhesives is all very corrosive. You know

759
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:19.599
<v Speaker 2>the reason the industry sells millions of dollars of anti

760
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:23.960
<v Speaker 2>corrosion products because the traditional gun safe is very corrosive.

761
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:27.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, all of our products our civilians are all

762
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:30.519
<v Speaker 2>made to the same military standards and we don't recommend

763
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:33.480
<v Speaker 2>using any of those products. You simply clean your guns properly.

764
00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:34.920
<v Speaker 3>You're never going to corrode.

765
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:38.440
<v Speaker 2>It's and that's kind of you know, our whole position

766
00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:41.320
<v Speaker 2>in the consumer market. We are the I don't want

767
00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:43.400
<v Speaker 2>to say red headed step child, but we're the guys.

768
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:48.360
<v Speaker 2>We're the outlier. We're the disruptive force in the industry

769
00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:51.079
<v Speaker 2>trying to drive. We're trying to change an industry that's

770
00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:54.280
<v Speaker 2>just been doing the same thing for sixty five years.

771
00:37:56.519 --> 00:37:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Perspective is very different. You're looking at this is how

772
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:01.599
<v Speaker 1>do I store this so I can get quick access

773
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:03.119
<v Speaker 1>to it? Instead of you know, how do I make

774
00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:05.760
<v Speaker 1>this thing? It was stand out hurricane and a fire

775
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:08.440
<v Speaker 1>and all the rest of the stuff. You know. And

776
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:10.719
<v Speaker 1>now let me ask you, how do you go from

777
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:13.280
<v Speaker 1>a locked standpoint to being able to open it quickly?

778
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:15.800
<v Speaker 1>You're talking about pushing a button and getting in there.

779
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, so our locks are all we I mean,

780
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:20.719
<v Speaker 2>we have biometrics within our locks, but we would never

781
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:23.360
<v Speaker 2>ever recommend use of a bi like a push you know,

782
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:27.320
<v Speaker 2>biometric fingerprint readers. Those are for convenience only, because if

783
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:29.039
<v Speaker 2>your hands are wet, it won't open. Your hands are dirty,

784
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:29.519
<v Speaker 2>it won't open.

785
00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:30.119
<v Speaker 1>If you're wearing.

786
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Gloves, it won't open.

787
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:35.159
<v Speaker 2>We want everybody to use the keypad. Again, our our

788
00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:38.960
<v Speaker 2>fast access keypads work very well. But when you buy

789
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:41.000
<v Speaker 2>my safe, if you've got to under the bed safe

790
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:43.360
<v Speaker 2>for a shotgun, every night, when you go to bed,

791
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:47.199
<v Speaker 2>turn the lights off, you're gonna reach down quietly and smoothly,

792
00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:49.639
<v Speaker 2>do your combination, open the safe and close it, go

793
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:51.519
<v Speaker 2>to bed. You're gonna do that every night for the

794
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:53.519
<v Speaker 2>first thirty six nights, and then you're gonna do it

795
00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:56.559
<v Speaker 2>every week. And what you're doing is you're building muscle memory,

796
00:38:56.639 --> 00:38:59.719
<v Speaker 2>just like a musician playing an instrument. And when you

797
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:02.039
<v Speaker 2>do that, once you've go thirty six days, you've now

798
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:06.679
<v Speaker 2>ingrained that you've hardwired that you're subconscious, regardless of your state,

799
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:11.280
<v Speaker 2>you're going to open that safe incredibly quickly and very smoothly.

800
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:13.840
<v Speaker 2>So that's you know, we have a whole curriculum of

801
00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:17.800
<v Speaker 2>train with your safe. People with handguns always they practice

802
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:21.000
<v Speaker 2>their dry fire routines, they practice their draw If you're

803
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:25.760
<v Speaker 2>actively if you conceal carry, if you're into this, you

804
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:27.800
<v Speaker 2>know part of the Second Amendment.

805
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:30.280
<v Speaker 3>You should be every morning doing your dry fire routines.

806
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:33.679
<v Speaker 2>I sit on a on a slack line balancing just

807
00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:37.199
<v Speaker 2>for added added uh, I don't know just just a

808
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:40.280
<v Speaker 2>workout thing. And I do dry fire drills every morning,

809
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:43.280
<v Speaker 2>and I've been doing that for years because that's it's

810
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:46.679
<v Speaker 2>just getting those reps and it's so important. Same thing

811
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:49.360
<v Speaker 2>with my locking system is every time you go to

812
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:51.280
<v Speaker 2>if you've got a small safe in your closet by

813
00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:54.079
<v Speaker 2>your front door, which is a great location in store firearms,

814
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:56.400
<v Speaker 2>every time I pull a coat out to just reach in,

815
00:39:56.599 --> 00:39:58.679
<v Speaker 2>not even looking, I can open up that safe and

816
00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:01.159
<v Speaker 2>remove a firearm in less than a second with my

817
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:04.639
<v Speaker 2>eyes closed, because I've done it probably two thousand times.

818
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:07.480
<v Speaker 2>And that's that's kind of how we look at the

819
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:12.559
<v Speaker 2>whole thing is the you know, the gun safe industry

820
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:14.920
<v Speaker 2>has as safe as a passive piece of equipment that's

821
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:17.639
<v Speaker 2>in your basement that you go to after your day

822
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:20.000
<v Speaker 2>is done with training or hunting or whatever you're doing.

823
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:25.159
<v Speaker 2>We look at firearm storage as integral to the process

824
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:27.840
<v Speaker 2>of defending your home, the process of defending your life.

825
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:31.000
<v Speaker 2>So we want that access, that using that lock to

826
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:34.679
<v Speaker 2>be part of your process.

827
00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:36.000
<v Speaker 1>It's another holster in other.

828
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Words, exactly, that's the term. We've us a wholester for

829
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:41.480
<v Speaker 2>your home, and and that's how we look at it.

830
00:40:41.559 --> 00:40:45.400
<v Speaker 2>The other side of our system is gun and gear storage,

831
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:47.880
<v Speaker 2>the amount of gear, and this happened at the military first.

832
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:50.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, we got involved with the military because they

833
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:53.920
<v Speaker 2>were fielding so much high value gear their armories just

834
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:57.320
<v Speaker 2>couldn't hold it. And part of our system is that

835
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:01.960
<v Speaker 2>ability to store gear behind above around with your firearms

836
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:04.920
<v Speaker 2>in a very organized manner. So we have a real

837
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:07.840
<v Speaker 2>advantage our systems. When you open the doors up of

838
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:10.519
<v Speaker 2>a safe that's really really decked out and take a

839
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:12.480
<v Speaker 2>picture of it, everybody.

840
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:15.079
<v Speaker 3>Goes, holy cow, that looks good.

841
00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:19.800
<v Speaker 2>And that's you know, our We made Ink Magazine's fastest

842
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.920
<v Speaker 2>growing companies in America twice in three years, and we

843
00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:25.119
<v Speaker 2>never we never spent any money on advertising.

844
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:26.880
<v Speaker 3>It was all word of mouth.

845
00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:29.360
<v Speaker 2>It was just photographs of what people were doing with

846
00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:33.119
<v Speaker 2>our system and it just went crazy. So it's a

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're winning this idea that of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for what we do, storage and security are integral to safety.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, home defense, and that really is the

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<v Speaker 3>vulnerability that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we have if people don't use the firearms reasonably,

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<v Speaker 1>then that opens us up to the attack on firearm

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<v Speaker 1>ownership from the safety standpoint. So part of preserving the

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<v Speaker 1>Second Amendment is preserved your life and preserving the safe

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<v Speaker 1>storage of these items as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't it absolutely if we always say, if every firearm

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<v Speaker 2>in America was properly secured, would we be fighting so

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<v Speaker 2>hard to the Second Amendment?

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<v Speaker 3>Because you're going to eliminate so many what.

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<v Speaker 2>I call them stupid, so many the accidental the things

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<v Speaker 2>you read about you just you just you know, your

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<v Speaker 2>roll your eyes, you drop your head.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a tragedy. We're just like, my god, it was

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<v Speaker 3>so easy to prevent that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's we live at a time now where there

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<v Speaker 2>should never be a child getting access to a firearm,

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<v Speaker 2>or a friend at a party who's drunk.

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<v Speaker 3>Or you know, there's there's.

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<v Speaker 2>It's real easy now to keep firearms secured yet very

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<v Speaker 2>very available to the to the authorized person.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and of course, you know we see elements of

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<v Speaker 1>this when it comes to atomobiles as well, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when people don't use automobiles responsibility, then that

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<v Speaker 1>puts all of us in a position of having our

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<v Speaker 1>rights up away with that. And of course it says

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<v Speaker 1>so many people don't have experience with firearms at all

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<v Speaker 1>like they do with cars. Whenever they see something like

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<v Speaker 1>that I think that that is characteristic of everybody rather

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<v Speaker 1>than just one irresponsible person. So it's really important for

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<v Speaker 1>you personally, and it's important for us collectively to protect

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<v Speaker 1>the Second Amendment. But the key thing is for your

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<v Speaker 1>own use. And so I really like the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>you've got that it's another holster that's there that you

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<v Speaker 1>train with it to be able to open up very quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great idea. Again, the company is yes, go ahead, Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Secure Tactical.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're working hard to get this message out.

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<v Speaker 3>We're slowly winning it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just not easy, you know. We're trying to change

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<v Speaker 2>the way people think and that takes time.

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<v Speaker 1>It just does.

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<v Speaker 3>But we're slowly, we're slowly winning this war.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, and so the company, again, folks, is secure It.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your website? Is it secure?

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<v Speaker 3>Secure?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Secure gun Storage dot Com, Securate Tacticals, our military site.

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<v Speaker 3>These google the words secure it. We're all over the web.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great. Thank you so much. Fascinating story, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be looking at it ourselves, I'm sure. So thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much. Tom. I appreciate Tom, thank you, and secure

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<v Speaker 1>It gun Storage, thank you so much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, thank you, thank you. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I should mention that they don't sell these in the

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<v Speaker 1>stores because as you heard, they've got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>training information on the site and that really does show

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<v Speaker 1>how to use the product, how to train with the product.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're very much integrated into an online presentation. So

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<v Speaker 1>just check out the website. You can find them online

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<v Speaker 1>if you look for secure it it the common Man.

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<v Speaker 1>They created common Core, dumbed down our children. They created

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<v Speaker 1>common Past, track and control us. They're Commons project to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure the commoners own nothing and the communist future.

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<v Speaker 1>They see the common man as simple, unsophisticated ordinary. But

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<v Speaker 1>each of us has worth and dignity created in the

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<v Speaker 1>image of God. That is what we have in common.

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<v Speaker 1>That is what they want to take away. Their most

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<v Speaker 1>powerful weapons are isolation, deception, intimidation. They desire to know

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<v Speaker 1>everything about us, while they hide everything from us. It's

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<v Speaker 1>time to turn that around and expose what they want

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<v Speaker 1>to hide. Please share the information and links you'll find

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<v Speaker 1>at the Davidnightshow dot com. Thank you for listening, Thank

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<v Speaker 2>And Stasist