1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: This is pet Life Radio. Let's talk pets. We are 2 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,679 now live here on pet Life Radio and on Instagram. 3 00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:20,640 Here for you, here for your pets. You know the drill. 4 00:00:20,879 --> 00:00:23,600 Get a hold of me pretty much twenty four to seven. 5 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,039 You can always reach me anytimes you have a question, 6 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,800 any problems with your pets. Now is the time? Well, 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,679 it's always a time because I've been concierge my entire 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,759 career and I'm not stopping now. So anyway, I know 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,640 when I lecture interestingly about this about how I am 10 00:00:40,799 --> 00:00:43,719 always available for my clients. Literally, my colleagues think I'm nuts. 11 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,159 You actually give your cell phone to your clients. I go, yeah, 12 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,320 I mean there's no dad. Animals don't have a clock, 13 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:51,640 and they own and say, well almost good to get 14 00:00:51,679 --> 00:00:54,039 sick between eight and five every day. I mean it 15 00:00:54,039 --> 00:00:57,079 happens all the time, So I am there for them. Bruce, 16 00:00:57,399 --> 00:00:59,759 how are you? How are you? Just talk to Martin 17 00:00:59,799 --> 00:01:06,480 the day we were raving, basically giving you praises, and 18 00:01:06,799 --> 00:01:10,439 I think, is he's doing a good job. So anyway, 19 00:01:10,519 --> 00:01:11,760 how do you get a hold of me? Well, it's 20 00:01:11,879 --> 00:01:14,719 very very easy. Good morning from above the Rose Bowl. 21 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:20,239 Hello Sharon, that's great, So anyway here on Instagram. You 22 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,200 just you're here, So all you have to do is 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,560 just start typing away your questions and I'll be happy 24 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,840 to answer here on pet Life Radio eight seven seven 25 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,439 three eight five eight eight e two once again eight 26 00:01:29,439 --> 00:01:32,200 seven seven three eight five eight eight eight two. Just 27 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,879 you know, punch in your questions or give us a 28 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,640 live call. We'd love to hear from you as well. 29 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,879 And I'm waving and waving hello to everybody. Hope everybody 30 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,439 had a great week. And for those who know what 31 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,400 a sook is, I've been eating in mine and that 32 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:46,920 might be. I don't know how many of you even 33 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,640 know what that is. But anyway, we're here, so anyway 34 00:01:51,239 --> 00:01:53,359 you want to get hold of me, just please join in. 35 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,000 Steph how are you doing? And loving to say hello 36 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,560 to all these people? Love it up. Now for Raven 37 00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:03,799 Sky and me. You have a request to be live, 38 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,719 which is totally fine, but just a lot of times 39 00:02:06,799 --> 00:02:09,439 hit that button on accidentally. I'm gonna review the request. 40 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,120 I'm gonna okay it, and if you don't get go live, 41 00:02:13,479 --> 00:02:15,800 we'll see if you really want to talk sometimes. Janice 42 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,080 from San Antonio, how you doing? JB So anyway, so 43 00:02:20,879 --> 00:02:22,520 I just wave back at you. If you want to 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,120 go ahead and institute that live, I'm fine with that. 45 00:02:26,719 --> 00:02:29,520 And hey, there you go, good morning. How are you? 46 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,960 What is this a mistake button? Anyway, if you if 47 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,719 you want to get since you got me here, go 48 00:02:36,759 --> 00:02:39,199 ahead and answer. Ask you a question, We'll answer, and 49 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,120 then we can say goodbye. What's going on? Okay? So, 50 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,759 so what happens is this for very very interesting And 51 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,199 by the way, for those of you that are potentially 52 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,199 young moms and are have pets first, which of course 53 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:56,080 I'm a big fan of and planning to actually have kids, 54 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,039 here's a couple of tricks. First of all, you're the 55 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,520 resident dog was kingpin, she was, you know, he or 56 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,000 she was, was the king of the household. And now 57 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,240 all of a sudden you bring another dog in. All right, 58 00:03:10,319 --> 00:03:12,240 and they were going, oh my god, this is competition. 59 00:03:12,879 --> 00:03:15,560 So we often make a big mistake. This is also 60 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,039 when when bringing a new baby in. So we have 61 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:23,240 to make the new pet basically a positive not a negative. 62 00:03:23,439 --> 00:03:25,199 How do we do it well? For one thing, the 63 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,960 biggest mistake we always make. So what happens is when 64 00:03:29,479 --> 00:03:32,520 the new dog is asleep or is resting or in 65 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,319 it's great whatever you however, you're training. So what do 66 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,240 you do now you feel so guilty for having brought 67 00:03:38,319 --> 00:03:41,159 another pet into the household. You already see the resentment. 68 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,439 So what do you do. You pour on the attention 69 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,159 to the resident dog. So what are you just teaching 70 00:03:47,199 --> 00:03:50,000 the resident dog. You're teaching the resident dog that life 71 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,439 in fact is better without that new pet. Ah. So 72 00:03:54,759 --> 00:03:59,199 we kind of inadvertently create this battle between young and older, 73 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,319 new and not so new, new and old. So here's 74 00:04:02,319 --> 00:04:06,159 what you do. When when they're together in the same 75 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,479 room at the same time, you give more attention to 76 00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:14,240 the resident dog and give treats, good boy, good girl, 77 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,560 whatever the case may be. And then when the new 78 00:04:17,639 --> 00:04:20,680 dog is in its crate or is it separated, kind 79 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,480 of not meanly ignore, but just don't give as much 80 00:04:23,519 --> 00:04:27,439 attention to the resident dog. You save the resident dog 81 00:04:28,319 --> 00:04:31,879 right the new the the the attention for when the 82 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,879 new pet is around, or when the new baby is around. 83 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,639 We make the biggest mistake when it comes to babies 84 00:04:37,759 --> 00:04:40,160 because what happens is the baby is napping, the baby's asleep. 85 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,000 We feel so guilty that we brought a new being 86 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,240 into the house that's taking away the attention. We pour 87 00:04:46,319 --> 00:04:49,399 on the attention and the affection to the resident dog. Well, 88 00:04:50,079 --> 00:04:52,480 that's counterpetuitive. You don't want to do that. Which you 89 00:04:52,519 --> 00:04:54,839 want to do is only give a lot of attention 90 00:04:54,959 --> 00:04:57,120 to the new I mean, to the old the resident 91 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,639 dog when the new dog or the new baby is around. 92 00:05:00,959 --> 00:05:04,959 So try that. Try No, not mean, just don't give 93 00:05:04,959 --> 00:05:07,160 as much attention, but when the new puppy, when the 94 00:05:07,199 --> 00:05:09,759 new poodle is around, you shower a lot of the 95 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,319 affection and attention onto the resident dog. And that way 96 00:05:13,639 --> 00:05:16,800 the dog, the resident dog will not not only will 97 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,959 not feel like this competition, they're gonna want that new 98 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,439 dog around. Oh my god, every time my new dogs around, 99 00:05:22,439 --> 00:05:24,800 I'm getting my favorite treat. I'm getting some time, I'm 100 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,240 getting hugs and kisses. That's how you want to do it. 101 00:05:27,399 --> 00:05:29,879 So try that, see if that works, and then get 102 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,199 back to us and let me know you're welcome. Bye bye. 103 00:05:33,399 --> 00:05:35,360 All right. So those of you who are planning on 104 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,600 having children, this might be a good thing for you. 105 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,920 So you'll you'll learn for these questions because this is, 106 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,120 you know, typically the way it's done. Todd, How you 107 00:05:45,199 --> 00:05:49,920 doing all right? Tin be legendary? I try to make 108 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,959 sure I didn't miss anybody. I have a lot of 109 00:05:51,959 --> 00:05:54,639 people here. Good I want I want some it's some 110 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,959 good questions. So, so what I had a case over 111 00:05:57,959 --> 00:06:02,199 the weekend and I want to just kind of talk 112 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:07,720 about how the difference between young and old, and I 113 00:06:07,759 --> 00:06:11,319 guess I can qualify as a ladder and that is 114 00:06:11,399 --> 00:06:15,639 that the difference between knowledge and wisdom. So I sent 115 00:06:15,759 --> 00:06:19,639 a client of mine, another physician, actually two emergency. We're 116 00:06:19,639 --> 00:06:21,639 having some issues with his dog and I just wanted 117 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,800 to make sure everything was okay. They were concerned. I said, 118 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,839 you know what, I was first law. I was considered 119 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,680 it was the larger dog, about bloat, just some the behavior. 120 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,680 But they kept telling me, and he's a doc, so 121 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,319 he knows the belly was nice and soft, it wasn't bloated. 122 00:06:35,639 --> 00:06:37,879 So I'm thinking, well, it's probably not bloke. You know what, 123 00:06:38,199 --> 00:06:40,959 it's late at night. Just to be safe, let's get 124 00:06:40,959 --> 00:06:43,120 an X ray. So they take the dog, they take 125 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,480 a little blood test, They take an X ray and 126 00:06:45,519 --> 00:06:48,480 it turns out that there's some issues with the chest. 127 00:06:48,959 --> 00:06:50,959 But also when they did a blood test, there was 128 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,680 low One of the things we look at is phosphorus. 129 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,600 There were low phosphorus, and this young doctor starts talking 130 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:04,480 about something called Franconi sin and Fanconi syndrome. Is it's 131 00:07:04,519 --> 00:07:07,480 a very rare disease, and the fact that you've brought 132 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,000 it up. I was surprised because I think in my 133 00:07:10,439 --> 00:07:13,279 forty two years of practice, I have never seen a 134 00:07:13,319 --> 00:07:17,000 fan cony dog. So I mean we're talking really rare. No. 135 00:07:17,279 --> 00:07:20,120 We always talk about the difference between the common and 136 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,920 the uncommon, and we talk about the horse versus the zebra, 137 00:07:24,519 --> 00:07:27,000 and any medical doctor knows and we use this as 138 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,480 all the time. And you know something that people can 139 00:07:29,519 --> 00:07:32,759 really understand, And I say that can be running it 140 00:07:32,759 --> 00:07:35,439 along the beach in Malibu and you hear hoof be 141 00:07:35,639 --> 00:07:38,560 chasing you from behind? Are you thinking horses or zebras? 142 00:07:39,079 --> 00:07:43,600 And of course you I'm Malibu, California horses. So doctor young, doctor, young, 143 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,360 experienced doctor with no wisdom, why you why are you 144 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,920 possibly thinking about a zebra? So that's kind of where 145 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,279 it is. So when I when he wrote me after 146 00:07:53,319 --> 00:07:55,399 the visit, he texted me back and you say, they 147 00:07:55,399 --> 00:07:59,480 think it's Fanconi syndrome, I'm going, WHOA, that's out of 148 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,959 left field. And so anyway, we talked this morning, dog 149 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,879 is too much better. It has a mild pneumonia. That's 150 00:08:05,879 --> 00:08:08,600 more likely it was a breathing issue. When it was shaking, 151 00:08:08,639 --> 00:08:11,399 she wasn't doing she was kind of uncomfortable, and that 152 00:08:11,439 --> 00:08:13,800 makes sense. They put her on two really good antibotics. 153 00:08:13,959 --> 00:08:16,639 I agree with both of them. And you know that's it. 154 00:08:16,759 --> 00:08:20,480 I said, I'm not worried about anything so rare. I 155 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,959 mean literally, in my forty years, I don't they've ever 156 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,199 diagnosed it. I mean, and even if you look it 157 00:08:25,319 --> 00:08:30,199 up online, the first thing says a very rare condition. 158 00:08:30,319 --> 00:08:33,840 It's like, what, really, young doctor, you think you're in 159 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:36,080 practice for six months and you're going to get one. 160 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,519 I remember, this is really funny talking about inexperience. I 161 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,159 you know, I'm guilty of that too. So my early 162 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,320 early years of practice, I see this dog coming in 163 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,399 and it was hairless and had a very kind of 164 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,080 greasy skin, had a bloated belly. Now my mind, oh 165 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,120 my god. If you look up some of the symptoms 166 00:08:55,159 --> 00:08:57,720 of cushions disease, I'm thinking, I'm my god, here, I'm 167 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,200 in practice for a month, not even a month. I'm 168 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,919 getting my first cushions case. So I asked her I said, 169 00:09:03,039 --> 00:09:06,240 how long has this been going on? And she goes, 170 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,559 what's going on? And I said, well, this is the 171 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,360 bloated belly, the hair loss, the skinny the skin She goes, 172 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,320 I'll have you know, this is a Chinese crested. You know, 173 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,080 there are only four in California. And I'm thinking to myself, well, no, 174 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,600 wonder why I never knew what it was. I've never 175 00:09:20,639 --> 00:09:24,480 even seen one. And yeah, you heard about the Mexican hairless, 176 00:09:24,519 --> 00:09:27,200 but a Chinese crested. I mean, this is very early 177 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,519 in my career. Never saw one of Davis in that school. Never, 178 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,960 I mean in the month field. Here I am thinking, 179 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,879 oh my god, this is so cool. I'm seeing this 180 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,120 really unconditional, this unusual and by the way, Cushing says, 181 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,919 way more common than Thancne syndrome. But anyway, the fact 182 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,440 is that it would even cross my mind. And I 183 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,279 don't think she ever life nicks because I didn't know 184 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,919 what one of the four in California Chinese cresteds were. 185 00:09:52,039 --> 00:09:54,320 But anyway, if you know, look up and there's also 186 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,200 the powder puff Chinese crested, which has kind of some hair, 187 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,639 but this this one was classic Chinese. He's crested so anyway, 188 00:10:01,879 --> 00:10:03,759 it does happen. But we learn, you know, That's that's 189 00:10:03,759 --> 00:10:06,919 how we learn. All right, Let's see, I want to wave. 190 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,559 I want to wave. Give me some questions, guys, Oh 191 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,120 by risks, you notice so I thought I talked about right. Anyway, 192 00:10:14,279 --> 00:10:16,639 For those of you who weren't here, last week, I 193 00:10:16,639 --> 00:10:20,720 played basketball every Tuesday night. I am, yes, by far, 194 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,879 the oldest guy on the court, you know, seventy almost 195 00:10:23,879 --> 00:10:26,200 seventy one, and I'm playing against guys that are in 196 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:31,360 the thirties and forties, and anyway, I still love to play. 197 00:10:31,519 --> 00:10:37,559 And I'm running, chasing a sort of a free ball, 198 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:42,159 right so, and I'm running along with one of my opponents, 199 00:10:42,399 --> 00:10:44,759 and I think in the run we tripped on each 200 00:10:44,799 --> 00:10:50,600 other and I went not falling, I went flying. So anyway, 201 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,960 so I kind of to break my fall. I put 202 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,320 my hand underneath me to help, you know, say, break 203 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,480 the fall, and I guess my wrist was in some 204 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,600 weird way hurt Like hell, my hand got almost instantly swollen. 205 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,879 Of course, I finished playing that night, because heaven forbid 206 00:11:04,919 --> 00:11:08,960 I should stop. And I iced it and ibuprofen and 207 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,600 all that stuff. Anyway, I noticed within a day it 208 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,639 was so swollen that when I made a fist, you 209 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,120 couldn't even see my knuckles. It was all puffy. Anyway, 210 00:11:18,519 --> 00:11:21,559 So I treated for a couple of days. All the 211 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,240 good things, swelling went down, it felt better, and of 212 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,080 course the next Tuesday night I played the tooth ma 213 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,600 after and I played, But one thing I noticed is 214 00:11:28,639 --> 00:11:31,559 that my thumb, when I can hyper extend it, instead 215 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,639 of going back like this, it went back like that, 216 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,799 and a little bone or something popped up right here, 217 00:11:35,879 --> 00:11:38,000 and when I pushed it, my thumb would go back 218 00:11:38,039 --> 00:11:40,200 in the back. I pushed it, and as I did that, 219 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,960 I elson noticed some what we call crepitis, kind of 220 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,080 a bone on bone feeling. Anyway, long story short took 221 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,559 it fell out to my friend who happened to be 222 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,840 a hand surgeon, and he looks at he goes yup, 223 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,879 you tore your volar plate. So I mean, basically, it's 224 00:11:52,919 --> 00:11:56,000 all of the tendons and ligaments right here to keep 225 00:11:56,039 --> 00:11:58,879 the thumb where it's supposed to be. Went in for 226 00:11:58,919 --> 00:12:02,879 surgery to you go this last Friday was two weeks 227 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:07,240 after surgery. He then rechecked and put this hard cast. 228 00:12:07,279 --> 00:12:09,480 I'll had a soft cast with a plate just to 229 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,120 keep my thumb honest. Anyway, So I'm on this for 230 00:12:12,159 --> 00:12:17,200 another two or three weeks. So anyway, I feel fine. 231 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:19,559 I know I'm using it way more than I'm supposed to. 232 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,759 I am the worst patient ever. 233 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 2: Now. 234 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: I know what it's like when I tell my clients, 235 00:12:25,399 --> 00:12:27,720 who I tell them, don't let your dog. We're up 236 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,480 and downstairs, and all of a sudden they come in 237 00:12:29,519 --> 00:12:31,679 and the lip is still there, and I say, well, 238 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,600 you are you to confine it like we wanted? No stairs, no, 239 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,480 no long walks, to short control leash walks. They go, well, 240 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,840 you still go to the backyard. I no, So finally 241 00:12:41,919 --> 00:12:44,759 what I do, I recommend let me let us keep 242 00:12:44,759 --> 00:12:46,840 the dog. We'll board it for five five six days, 243 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,440 where they would call cage rest and I mean now 244 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,600 literally cage rested. Ps what happens, dog gets better. So 245 00:12:54,279 --> 00:12:56,879 I am that kind of patient. I'm the worst ever. 246 00:12:57,039 --> 00:12:59,320 Where I had my shoulder done, same thing. I went 247 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,080 back to work too later doing surgery, so I don't 248 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,840 practice what I preach, let's put it that way. But anyway, 249 00:13:05,879 --> 00:13:08,360 so I'm sure that my friend Robbie the hand surgeon, 250 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,039 is gonna be yelling at me. But so far it 251 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,559 looks pretty good, so I'm good, all right, bulldog against 252 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,480 cysts and her toes. The steroid went away. Now I 253 00:13:17,519 --> 00:13:20,080 get back what they do. Okay, we are talking about 254 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:26,240 interdigital cysts, and interdigital cysts are very very common. Probably 255 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,039 the two breeds that we most often see it are 256 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,159 going to be your English and your friend's bulldog. It 257 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:35,159 can happen to any dog, but it's very common in bulldogs. 258 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,840 Sometimes they are fluid filled. Sometimes we can drain them. 259 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,720 Sometimes rarely we actually surgically remove them, and that is 260 00:13:42,759 --> 00:13:45,879 if they keep coming back. So, yes, they are antabotic 261 00:13:45,879 --> 00:13:49,399 and steroid responsive. I do it only. I do the 262 00:13:49,399 --> 00:13:52,639 antabotics too, because I'm worried about secondary infection. Certainly the 263 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,639 steroids help. And what you can do about it not 264 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,240 a whole lot. There are very few things you can do. 265 00:13:58,799 --> 00:14:01,600 It is just the nature of the beast. And I 266 00:14:01,639 --> 00:14:04,279 mean when it comes to bulldogs, I mean the beast literally. 267 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:08,679 So you know this. Do the stories when you can. 268 00:14:08,759 --> 00:14:12,399 If you have one area particularly that continues to come back, 269 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,960 or they get extremely huge and maybe even somewhat infected, 270 00:14:17,639 --> 00:14:21,440 then you might consider removing it. Otherwise you try to 271 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,200 manage them medically. I prefer medical management anytime of the week, 272 00:14:25,279 --> 00:14:28,240 but I just know that rare cases we will actually 273 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,039 do surgery. I don't like doing the surgery. Sometimes even 274 00:14:31,039 --> 00:14:33,720 with surgery, they can come back, so I like to 275 00:14:33,759 --> 00:14:37,440 be very conservatively and go from there. Anyway, we are 276 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,720 almost twenty past the hour time for my break. When 277 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,120 I get dirty looks from my producer Mark, I know 278 00:14:43,159 --> 00:14:45,840 it's time to run commercials on pet Life Radio. So 279 00:14:46,519 --> 00:14:49,240 don't go away. Back after these short messages from pet 280 00:14:49,279 --> 00:14:53,039 Life and I will stay here on you guys on Instagram, 281 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,120 but we'll be back for everybody in just a minute. 282 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,799 Don't go away. Real people, real stories. 283 00:15:00,039 --> 00:15:03,159 Speaker 3: Our little dog developed this lymph problem at the chemotherapy 284 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,879 lasted for six months, started developing more lymph nose, so 285 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,240 I thought I'd just try carnivre. At the lymph nose 286 00:15:09,279 --> 00:15:11,320 started to go down. Then I took him into the 287 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:12,919 vet to him and checked out, and then there was 288 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:14,200 no signs at all. Inside. 289 00:15:14,279 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: My god had issues that developed in his height. And 290 00:15:16,679 --> 00:15:19,200 three months later my ven airing said this, go ahead 291 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:19,960 and remove the eye. 292 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: I heard the carnivore on advertising, so I said, you 293 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,840 know what, I'm going to order this product. 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Let's talk past. 310 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: Let's do that on Life Radio, Headline Radio, petline radio 311 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:23,960 dot com, and we are back here live. 312 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,519 Speaker 1: You had a good question about on that poodle case 313 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,639 we discussed earlier as any way to tell other antique 314 00:16:29,679 --> 00:16:33,919 and there is unfortunately eyes yes, but there's a hand 315 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,519 between like four and seven years. It's just a guess. 316 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,639 If they are trying to get little white, then maybe 317 00:16:39,679 --> 00:16:41,879 they're closer to the seven. As long as their eyes 318 00:16:41,879 --> 00:16:44,399 are still clear. Once the eyes start getting the sclerosis. 319 00:16:44,679 --> 00:16:47,919 Then it kind of tells you they're probably seven or more. 320 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,519 All right, Shannon, talk about tapeworms, so the first time 321 00:16:51,559 --> 00:16:54,080 in foster dog recently they came from the shelter. So 322 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:59,399 understand something about tapeworms. Tapeworms, unlike the other worms, cannot 323 00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:04,759 be read from dog to dog because of the actual feces. 324 00:17:05,559 --> 00:17:09,359 Very important to know. Tapeworms come from eating a flea. Now, 325 00:17:09,759 --> 00:17:12,960 could the flea from their rescue dog jump on to 326 00:17:13,079 --> 00:17:15,759 the resident dog the resident dog now eats the flea 327 00:17:15,799 --> 00:17:19,359 and gets tapeworms. Yes, that can happen. Now, the tapeworms 328 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,799 who see in dogs, called dipolydium dipolidium, are not like 329 00:17:22,839 --> 00:17:27,279 a catacoccus, not the dreaded African tapeworm that robs the 330 00:17:27,319 --> 00:17:30,599 body of nutrition and makes you very, very sick. When 331 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:35,880 it comes to dipolydium, Probably the only real issue is aesthetics. Asthetics, 332 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,880 because when you look at the poop, you see these 333 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,480 little white rice flakes on the poop, and if you 334 00:17:40,559 --> 00:17:43,839 lift up the tail you see dried up tapeworm segments. 335 00:17:44,079 --> 00:17:47,759 They look almost like they shrink, They look like sesame seeds. 336 00:17:48,039 --> 00:17:50,480 Those are the ones that we have to worry about. 337 00:17:51,039 --> 00:17:54,880 But and again, it doesn't cause any medical issue. It 338 00:17:55,039 --> 00:17:58,519 causes an issue where it looks pretty gross. So if 339 00:17:58,559 --> 00:18:00,640 you have a resident dog, you take care of the 340 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,920 fleas on your new dog. You don't have to worry 341 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:07,440 about the tapeworms passing from the new dog, the rescue 342 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,240 dog to the resident dogs. That's not gonna happen. Fleas, yes, 343 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,680 but no. So when you see tapeworms, the first thing 344 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,880 you need to do, interestingly is not just treat the fleas. 345 00:18:18,319 --> 00:18:20,559 I mean, excuse me, treat the worms, which is easy, 346 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,079 but it's also treating the fleas. You got to get 347 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,279 rid of the fleas. Once you get rid of the fleas, 348 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,240 the tapeworms won't come back. Now, the tapeworms a number 349 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,880 of ways there are, you know, some of the like 350 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,400 panicure con treat the has something for the tapeworms. The 351 00:18:36,519 --> 00:18:40,079 drug you're looking for is prasy quanti prazzy quantal is 352 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,559 in drawn sit is in drawn tall and that's the 353 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,799 medication you want to talk to your veterinarian about and 354 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,799 that takes care of the tapeworms. I recommend some season 355 00:18:50,799 --> 00:18:52,839 to say that one treatment is all you need. I 356 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,680 like to follow up just to be sure fourteen to 357 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,720 seventeen days later giving a second dose, and that can 358 00:18:58,759 --> 00:19:01,119 Now if you wait too long lines with other worms, 359 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,559 then they may also reproduce and those take out. Oh 360 00:19:04,599 --> 00:19:07,599 one more thing you have to know that tape. Most 361 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,759 when we make a diagnosis of worms, round worms, hookworms, gripworms, 362 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,000 we do a fecal test. We are looking for the eggs, 363 00:19:16,079 --> 00:19:19,160 the worm eggs, and we make our diagnosis based on that. 364 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,960 With tapeworms, it could be different because tapeworms they have 365 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,160 egg packets and they don't they shed the worms, but 366 00:19:27,319 --> 00:19:29,720 they may not shed the egg packets. So you could 367 00:19:29,799 --> 00:19:32,720 bring your stool sample in of your pet that you see. 368 00:19:33,079 --> 00:19:36,680 You're actually seeing these worms, and the doctor says, well, 369 00:19:36,759 --> 00:19:39,839 take the fecal's negative because they don't shed eggs readily. 370 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,839 There's egg packets. So the fecal test could be negative. 371 00:19:43,559 --> 00:19:46,799 But you're seeing the worms. You're seeing them. So the 372 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,559 or comes in and said, what do you mean negative? 373 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,680 They are worms? I see them, so understand when it 374 00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:56,000 comes your diagnosis is I always tell people you can 375 00:19:56,039 --> 00:19:58,880 make the diagnosis better than I can, because you are 376 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:03,720 seeing the the tapeworm larva on the on the body, 377 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,400 coming out on the stool, drying up on the butt. 378 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,640 You treat for tapeworms regardless of what the fecal test shows, 379 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,720 So keep that in mind, so don't get don't get 380 00:20:13,759 --> 00:20:16,160 mad at your doctor who you spend money on it. 381 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,160 I honestly, if you have an adult dog where it's 382 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:24,039 unlikely for them to have any other worms, not impossible, 383 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,480 but unlikely, especially if the stool is totally normal except 384 00:20:27,559 --> 00:20:31,039 for seeing the tapeworm larva segments. Okay, when you see 385 00:20:31,079 --> 00:20:33,400 the segments, I will treat for tape worms. I won't 386 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,880 even do a fecal test. Yeah, there's other things going 387 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,279 on with the stool. If it's soft, it's much of 388 00:20:37,319 --> 00:20:39,440 it's persistent, then yes, I might do a test just 389 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,599 to make sure we don't have gara or another world. 390 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,400 If it's a brand new puppy coming from a shelter, 391 00:20:44,599 --> 00:20:46,759 then yeah I will. But if it's a resident dog, 392 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,200 been there for a while, and all of it shows 393 00:20:48,279 --> 00:20:50,359 up is with tapeworms, I'm gonna treat the tape worms. 394 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,759 Don't waste your money on the fecal I know my 395 00:20:53,559 --> 00:20:56,000 opponents are gonna be yelling at me because they want 396 00:20:56,039 --> 00:20:58,880 the money now you don't need it. I would where 397 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,759 I would do is the opposite. I would treat the 398 00:21:00,839 --> 00:21:03,400 tapeworms first, and when they go away and there's no 399 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,920 other problem, you're good. If they go away and you're 400 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,440 still having other issues, yes, then run a fecal test. 401 00:21:09,079 --> 00:21:12,799 All right, boy. I love being controversial, I really do. 402 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,240 My goal is to bring in a wisdom, bring in 403 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,559 the common sense, and stop I mean for coming in 404 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,599 and testing for you. That's why I get so angry 405 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,519 at these emergency clinics. It's one thing to come in 406 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,599 and treat the emergency, but to start running these tests 407 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,720 for things that are so esoteric, things that are probably 408 00:21:32,799 --> 00:21:34,880 a young doctor would see once in their career. 409 00:21:35,799 --> 00:21:36,319 Speaker 2: What are you doing? 410 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,519 Speaker 1: Why are you wasting the money? Do one thing at 411 00:21:38,559 --> 00:21:41,440 a time, Have a game plan first, rule out, can 412 00:21:41,519 --> 00:21:44,440 put your most common things first, test for those and 413 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:49,799 only those. Another thing that always bothers me, and I'm 414 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,279 very vocal about it, as you can tell, and that 415 00:21:52,519 --> 00:21:56,440 is veterinarians that are collecting a your analysis for a 416 00:21:56,599 --> 00:22:01,839 urine tests and they automatically automatically add on a culture 417 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,880 which is more expensive than the our neurine test, and 418 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,720 I'm thinking, why they run the culture. They haven't even 419 00:22:07,759 --> 00:22:11,000 got urine test back yet. Are there white cells? Are 420 00:22:11,039 --> 00:22:14,680 the bacteria? So traditionally what happens is you spend that 421 00:22:14,799 --> 00:22:18,599 extra two hundred plus dollars on a culture and severn 422 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,599 co urine mi C to test for bacteria and what 423 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,960 antibotic is best, until you find out that there were 424 00:22:26,079 --> 00:22:30,599 no bacteria, there are no white cells now there. What's 425 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,160 the difference really, what's the difference between waiting to get 426 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,279 your basic UA your analysis first looking to see is 427 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,400 it normal or not normal, and then say yes, there 428 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,480 are greater than four white cells for high power field 429 00:22:43,799 --> 00:22:48,200 that's a significant diagnostic, or there are bacteria and the 430 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,200 urine was collected through what we call cystos tatisis then 431 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,680 you call the lab and always draw two tubes, one 432 00:22:54,759 --> 00:22:58,359 for immediate and one we call it culture. If if 433 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,880 we see greater than four white cell from higher powerfield, 434 00:23:01,039 --> 00:23:03,039 if we see bacteria, we call app and say I 435 00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:05,279 remember that second tube, go ahead and run the MIIC. 436 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,519 The owner already knows that that's going to be the plan, 437 00:23:08,079 --> 00:23:10,720 and they're prepared to pay extra if we need it, 438 00:23:11,319 --> 00:23:14,559 but to do it automatically without even getting urine results back. 439 00:23:14,599 --> 00:23:18,680 Yet that's highway robbery. So and I see places doing 440 00:23:18,759 --> 00:23:21,799 this all the time, and guess what. Guess what comes 441 00:23:21,839 --> 00:23:24,960 back on the urine culture. No growth after twenty four hours, 442 00:23:25,319 --> 00:23:28,079 no growth after forty eight hours. Duh. I could have 443 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,359 told you that there were no bacteria in the urine. 444 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,519 There were no white cells, there's no there's no infection. 445 00:23:33,279 --> 00:23:37,039 So this is what drives me crazy. And this is 446 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,440 why I don't know, maybe this is why some of 447 00:23:40,519 --> 00:23:42,920 my colleagues hate my guts. But I'm just telling you, 448 00:23:43,319 --> 00:23:45,880 you gotta be practical. As I said, there's a difference 449 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,960 between academic medicine and practical medicine. And I'm very very 450 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,559 happy to say my approach is always practical. I'm not 451 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,920 going to start doing stuff just because the textbook says, oh, 452 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,880 this could be now if I have a urine specific 453 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,559 This is coming from my friend who's an internist who 454 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,240 I admire tremendously. He's a genius. That is, if you 455 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,279 are suspecting some short of urinary problem, but the urine 456 00:24:10,319 --> 00:24:14,160 comes back with a very low specific gravity, meaning it's 457 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,680 very very very dilute, and it's very possible that you 458 00:24:18,839 --> 00:24:24,000 might have a bacteria even though the urine was so dilute, 459 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,559 you just didn't see any. Or the same thing with 460 00:24:26,599 --> 00:24:30,279 white budd Sells. Then if you still are having issues, yeah, 461 00:24:30,319 --> 00:24:31,880 you might want to do the urine. M I see, 462 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,319 you might want to look for bacteria. You might find some. 463 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,160 But that is the exception. But am I going to 464 00:24:38,279 --> 00:24:42,039 treat every cat and dog that I see with that exception? 465 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,640 Heck no, it's you. I'm not paying for it. You're 466 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,480 paying for it. So I'm going to do is say, 467 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,839 you know what, I hear it, and this is why 468 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,839 I want to make sure that we're dealing with a 469 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,440 problem that needs to be addressed. But I'm not going 470 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,039 to search for a problem where the clinical signs aren't 471 00:24:58,039 --> 00:25:01,559 there or even the tests aren't supporting it yet. So 472 00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:05,440 you know, as you said, can you tell how agitated 473 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,640 I get with this? And I see it all the time, 474 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,799 and it drives me bonkers. I've had cases where I'm 475 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,599 actually challenged a veterinarians I call them, especially if they're young. 476 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,880 I try to be nice. I try to say, now, 477 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,920 what were you thinking? Why did you do that test? Well? 478 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,079 I say, no, that test is something you do after 479 00:25:23,319 --> 00:25:26,039 so and so after you don't just jump to take 480 00:25:26,079 --> 00:25:29,799 that test is the only You'd gain nothing except money. 481 00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:34,240 And the client wasted money and still got no answers. 482 00:25:34,599 --> 00:25:37,720 So why did you do that? And I'm trying to 483 00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:41,519 get veterinarians to think the way they would want, to 484 00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:44,880 think they would want if they were novice, if they 485 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,839 were not veterinarians and they were just pet parents and 486 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,079 their vet did that to them. Don't you think they'd 487 00:25:51,079 --> 00:25:53,480 be a little pissed. I think so I'd be pissed. 488 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,119 So anyway, thank you, thank you, Sharon, She drives on 489 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,799 Pasadena to Westwood to see me. No, I do appreciate 490 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,839 trust me for all of you. And I got to 491 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,079 tell you. The nicest thing is I will have clients 492 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,319 that complain about my weight. Yes, there is a very 493 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,240 long wait in my office, and not because I always. 494 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,720 The first thing I say is trust me. I wouldn't 495 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,119 be this busy if I was terrible. That's one thing. 496 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,559 And secondly, I said, I also suffer from a disease 497 00:26:21,799 --> 00:26:24,440 that's called I can't say no disease, So when someone 498 00:26:24,519 --> 00:26:26,400 calls and needs to be seen, I am not one 499 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,920 of those vets. They said, well, God, you know, and 500 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,000 he's booked solid. But so we can see you next Monday, Monday, 501 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,319 that's a week away. I can't wait till Monday. If 502 00:26:35,319 --> 00:26:37,160 they come to I say, bring them in, Thomas gonna 503 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,519 be wait, bring your laptop, bring a book. But I 504 00:26:39,599 --> 00:26:43,240 will not go home until I see you. And that's 505 00:26:43,319 --> 00:26:46,839 the culture that's in my hospital and therefore, so even clients, 506 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,079 new clients will I've had a couple of times this happened, 507 00:26:50,079 --> 00:26:51,440 which has got a kind of great. It's like a 508 00:26:51,519 --> 00:26:53,799 good pat on the back. But so they finally come 509 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,680 and see me and they complain a little bad and 510 00:26:55,759 --> 00:26:58,200 says always this way, Yes I do. I am sorry, 511 00:26:58,279 --> 00:27:01,640 but it's I'm pretty busy anyway, Go through my exam, 512 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,480 go through my questions. I give them the time that 513 00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:07,359 they need, and as they're getting ready to go, she'll 514 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,240 turn around and say to me, just please tell me 515 00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:13,119 you'll never retire. So I guess, I guess it works. 516 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,039 But my goal is I want to make sure that 517 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,720 everybody gets to help they need, the pets are cared for. 518 00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:20,160 And I'm not one of the taybe. I'm not one 519 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,039 of those how Steve doing I you know, I find 520 00:27:23,079 --> 00:27:25,000 out from somebody else. I'm a little mad at my sister, 521 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,480 who a friend of mine, says, oh, you know, Steve 522 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,400 has his knee surgery. I go, wait a second. I 523 00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:32,720 never hear from my sister or from Steve, who's my 524 00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:37,119 high school classmate and friend. So anyway, so yeah, how's 525 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,839 he doing, Beth? Tell me, tell me, tell me so anyway. 526 00:27:40,759 --> 00:27:47,759 So there you have it. My opinions, sometimes good, sometimes 527 00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:50,640 a little controversial. Sometimes you're not going to like. But 528 00:27:50,839 --> 00:27:53,319 I can tell you that that's what you get. You 529 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,000 get what you're paid for it, and you're not paying 530 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,000 anything with this, so it is what it is. So anyway, 531 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,960 here next week, save bad time, same back channel during 532 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,200 the week. If you need to get a hold of me, 533 00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:06,240 easy to do. You can catch me here on Instagram. 534 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,799 You can catch me on pet Life Radio, doctor Jeffipetler, 535 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,960 Faida dot com. You get me a doctor Jeff, doctor 536 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,400 Jeff dot com. Many of you, I'm sure have my 537 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,519 cell phone because I hear from you, so you can 538 00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:18,920 always send me a text or a call. Anyway. Love 539 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,440 being here with you, helping you, answering your questions. And again, 540 00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:26,119 you don't have to wait till a Sunday on during 541 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,119 my show to ask me questions. You can reach me anytime. 542 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,799 Would love to have a conversation Missy. Hello, sorry you're 543 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,599 late or else I would have But Missy, if you 544 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,079 have any questions, you can always get a hold of me. 545 00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:41,000 As they said, Cell Life Radio, doctor Jeffipelerfraider dot com, 546 00:28:41,319 --> 00:28:45,960 Doctor jeffid, doctor Jeff dot com, jeffet airbat dot com. Whatever, 547 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,279 we're here for you and anytime you need to get 548 00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:52,240 a hold of me, do so. And yes, my wife 549 00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:54,599 with corgis, thank you so much. Have a good Sunday 550 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,440 to everybody, have a great week and we'll see you 551 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,240 next time. Next Sunday, you're on pet Life Radio and 552 00:29:01,599 --> 00:29:03,319 Instagram Live. I have a wonderful week by 553 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:09,119 Speaker 2: Let's talk pets every week on demand only on petlife 554 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,319 Radio dot com.