Speaker 1: Hey, you there, thanks for tuning in. You're ready for
Speaker 1: another episode of my big Foot sighting. All right, then
Speaker 1: let's do this.
Speaker 2: Seen a bunch of rundown no horse towns where the
Speaker 2: church at the backbone, laws and the bow and the
Speaker 2: fasting melodies coove in with the bomb man rose with
Speaker 2: the roofs, run deep beyond the nose of the busy
Speaker 2: streets with the songs of the South of su Then.
Speaker 3: When I hear the promp porch picking down home rhythm
Speaker 3: bringing out I Don't Run from Banjung music.
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Speaker 1: Big Foot sightings over the years have caused me to
Speaker 1: create the Main Bigfoot Foundation as a co founder. And
Speaker 1: Main Bigfoot Foundation is a nonprofit here in the state
Speaker 1: of Maine. We actually do outings. Our goal when we
Speaker 1: started our foundation.
Speaker 5: Was to.
Speaker 1: Get folks back out into the wilderness to learn about nature,
Speaker 1: to learn about Bigfoot, and you know, get a camaraderie
Speaker 1: going with all the people around. Our biggest thing was
Speaker 1: that we myself and the other co founder, her name
Speaker 1: is Janelle Graff. We had some encounters over the years,
Speaker 1: and hers was at you know, like ten years old.
Speaker 1: She had a encounter that her father had had had
Speaker 1: things thrown at He was a logger and had some
Speaker 1: rocks and logs thrown at his skitterer by a one
Speaker 1: and the dad told the kids to stay out of
Speaker 1: the woods, and they didn't, and next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: she's out there with her her cousins and she was
Speaker 1: ten years old and she they went and they found
Speaker 1: a structure in the woods and it smelt bad, and
Speaker 1: they decided that it was probably good to run back
Speaker 1: to the house. And they turned to run back to
Speaker 1: the house and Janelle dropped something on the ground. She
Speaker 1: turned around to pick it up, said I'll catch up.
Speaker 1: As she picked it up, turned around, there's this creature
Speaker 1: in front of her, you know, eight nine feet tall,
Speaker 1: and it's looking down at her and it's just massive.
Speaker 1: Scared of living with Jesus out of her, she ran
Speaker 1: you know, past it, going to the house. It ran
Speaker 1: in the other direction, and you know, she had that experience.
Speaker 1: She tried to share that experience with other investigation you
Speaker 1: know investigators, and she didn't get no real good vibes.
Speaker 1: Out of the folks that you know, she was talking with,
Speaker 1: you know, some listened, some didn't listen. So I had
Speaker 1: the same kind of experience when I got chased out
Speaker 1: of the woods in twenty ten, I had an encounter
Speaker 1: with these creatures over about a month and a half.
Speaker 1: I had always believed in the bigfoot and sasquatch, say
Speaker 1: whatever you want to name it. I had been out
Speaker 1: hunting in an expanded autry zone here in Maine, and
Speaker 1: you know, my interest had always been there, but I
Speaker 1: never really dove into it. But I did have an
Speaker 1: uncle who had been into it. Married my aunt. It
Speaker 1: was her second marriage, and I met him and he
Speaker 1: tried to get me into helping him investigate bigfoots because
Speaker 1: he had done it over the years. And you know,
Speaker 1: at that time he was probably thirty thirty two years
Speaker 1: into it or thirty four years into it, and that
Speaker 1: was in the early nineties when they got married, and
Speaker 1: you know, when he hit forty five years doing it
Speaker 1: and his age was getting up there. He kept trying
Speaker 1: to get me to go, and I ended up hunting
Speaker 1: in that expanded archery zone and I had a day
Speaker 1: that I climbed into my tree stand and I heard
Speaker 1: noise to my left and I looked and saw this
Speaker 1: creature in the tree or this person. I thought it
Speaker 1: was a person at the time. It was up in
Speaker 1: the you know, the y of the tree, about twenty
Speaker 1: feet up, and I was thinking, why would somebody put
Speaker 1: their tree stand there? And you know, I kind of
Speaker 1: wrote it off because the deer trails ran behind this
Speaker 1: person and I just I sat there and I was
Speaker 1: getting dark, and you know, every now and then this
Speaker 1: person would move and you know, it'd make like a
Speaker 1: scraping noise in a tree. And yeah, I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, i'll talk to them after we go out
Speaker 1: of the woods, because you know, I was here obviously
Speaker 1: for us and it's land with permission only, so I'll
Speaker 1: just talk with them and you know, see if they
Speaker 1: can move. And just it was getting dark, I heard
Speaker 1: noises off to the right and went to look for
Speaker 1: it and nothing. I wasn't seeing it yet. It was coming.
Speaker 1: It was coming down the trail and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I hear a thud to the left and I look
Speaker 1: and this person's walking off, and you know, I was like, holy,
Speaker 1: that's a top tall person, man, you know, But it
Speaker 1: didn't have The person didn't have a bow and arrow.
Speaker 1: They didn't have any kind of hunting gear on. You know,
Speaker 1: it looked like a gilly type suit that you would
Speaker 1: you would see on the market, or a soldier ware, long, strangly,
Speaker 1: scraggly type, you know, vegetation. It looked like hanging off
Speaker 1: it or hair and I wasn't quite sure what it was.
Speaker 1: And I watched this person walk away from me and
Speaker 1: into a thicket, and I decided to try to catch
Speaker 1: up to him. And I took the shortest route out
Speaker 1: to the vehicles where the vehicles would be packed if
Speaker 1: you or hunting that area. And nothing. So I drove
Speaker 1: up and down the road, didn't really notice anything, couldn't
Speaker 1: find this person. So I went back the next day.
Speaker 1: I said, I'll look at the tag that's on his
Speaker 1: tree stand, so I know who he is, so I
Speaker 1: can report it to the owner and the owner can
Speaker 1: contact him. And I went back the next day. There
Speaker 1: was no tree stand. There was no marks from any
Speaker 1: tree stands or anything else. So, you know, I just
Speaker 1: at that time my curiosity peeked a little bit. I
Speaker 1: was set to hunt, and you know I had you know,
Speaker 1: I'd done some bigfoot research before, so yeah, I kind
Speaker 1: of knew different things at that point, and you know,
Speaker 1: my uncle had taught me a few things, but I
Speaker 1: was just really you know, into the hunt. It was
Speaker 1: into the hunt. And I climbed back up that next
Speaker 1: day into the tree stand. You know, when I noticed
Speaker 1: they were gone, they moved, so I'm good. And I
Speaker 1: was sitting in a tree and I'd been there probably
Speaker 1: about two hours, and all of a sudden, I heard
Speaker 1: a branch snapped behind me, and it was a heavy branch,
Speaker 1: and I could I could hear it. This is a
Speaker 1: branch that ended up. I heard it flying through the
Speaker 1: air all of a sudden. It kind of made me
Speaker 1: go into a little bit of a shock, like what
Speaker 1: the heck is going on? And I turned just as
Speaker 1: I know, because I heard the branch getting closer and
Speaker 1: I felt it hit the base of my tree and
Speaker 1: I looked down the hiss. This branch is probably four
Speaker 1: inches in diameter, and yeah, it's close to ten to
Speaker 1: fifteen feet long, and it, you know, it had flown
Speaker 1: through the woods. So I'm looking around to see where
Speaker 1: it is, you know, where that could have came from.
Speaker 1: You know, figure maybe it broke off up high or whatnot.
Speaker 1: And as I turned and I'm looking and scanning the
Speaker 1: whole area, I noticed a creature about fifty yards behind me.
Speaker 1: The first day it was only twenty yards from me.
Speaker 1: But the second day, this creature was big. This thing
Speaker 1: was had to be, you know, at least eight and
Speaker 1: a half feet tall, if not taller. I mean, but
Speaker 1: I'm up in the tree stands. I couldn't tell. And
Speaker 1: I got at that point it was what in the
Speaker 1: heck is that? And I watched this creature move. It
Speaker 1: would take a step, turn its body and look in
Speaker 1: one direction, scan around, moving its body at the waist
Speaker 1: until it was looking you know, down the direction of
Speaker 1: my tree standing. Then it would look up and it
Speaker 1: was it was. It was shocking to me at that time,
Speaker 1: you know, because I wasn't really into the whole deep
Speaker 1: dive down the rabbit hole bigfoot thing. You know. I
Speaker 1: I'd go out and look, you know, hey, maybe I'll
Speaker 1: find a footprint. But more it was more when I
Speaker 1: was out there before, it was like, I'm walking in
Speaker 1: the woods. I mean, it's it's peaceful time, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm out there in the woods. If I find a footprint, great, hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: did I know about structures at the time. I'd heard things,
Speaker 1: but it's about it and you know, smells. I'd heard things,
Speaker 1: and I'd experienced things that you know, kind of related
Speaker 1: me to that smell. And I really wasn't real deep
Speaker 1: into it. So when I saw this thing walk, I
Speaker 1: you know, I was five to ten minutes, and I
Speaker 1: mean it would take that one step, and then it
Speaker 1: would turn and look uphill and turn it the ways
Speaker 1: in front of it, and then turn it a ways
Speaker 1: to look down towards me and then put its head
Speaker 1: back with tilt its head backwards like it was looking
Speaker 1: up at me. Once they got out of you, I
Speaker 1: decided that day that I was out of there. I
Speaker 1: climbed right down and I grabbed my tree stand, packed
Speaker 1: it all up, ran like the dickens, get out of there,
Speaker 1: and I called. Of course, I called my uncle because
Speaker 1: we weren't it wasn't even near Doc yet, so I
Speaker 1: called him, explained to him what was going on. He,
Speaker 1: you know, he kind of calmly said, you know, it
Speaker 1: does not want you there for some reason. And of
Speaker 1: course I had talked to many people about my experience
Speaker 1: there already, and you know, experiences as far as smells
Speaker 1: and sounds that I'd heard and other hunters. And after
Speaker 1: I packed up, I wasn't going to go back there,
Speaker 1: but my uncle convinced me. He said, go back. You know,
Speaker 1: you bought a license that cost you extra money to
Speaker 1: go and hunt. You love hunting. Go out there. You
Speaker 1: know you'll be safe. Just go on further in on
Speaker 1: the property. So that's what I did. And on that
Speaker 1: day when I went in, I met another hunter on
Speaker 1: the corner of a corn field in there, and I
Speaker 1: talked to him briefly, and then I went out and
Speaker 1: around the corn onto the back side of the field.
Speaker 1: There's two snowmveil trails that come out, and I knew
Speaker 1: from scouting that the second trail, if I went into it,
Speaker 1: there was an area that was clear that I could
Speaker 1: set up a hunting blind. And that's what I had,
Speaker 1: a hunting blind and you know, chair on my back
Speaker 1: and just me and my bow and arrow, and I
Speaker 1: was out there, and you know, I set up the
Speaker 1: blind and I was watching the trail. The deer come
Speaker 1: out through the snowmobile trail and through that clearing that
Speaker 1: I was in to go out to the mainfield where
Speaker 1: the corn was and I was set up and I
Speaker 1: was good so being there during the afternoon, I heard
Speaker 1: different noises and I kind of attributed it to you know,
Speaker 1: of course, it was September, so I was attributing it
Speaker 1: to a buck racking his horns on a tree, trying
Speaker 1: to get the velvet off, you know. And I just
Speaker 1: let it be and I listened to it. It started
Speaker 1: to my southeast and went to my northeast. Over the
Speaker 1: course of the day, I didn't hear any animals. Nothing
Speaker 1: was moving in the woods. I didn't see no deer,
Speaker 1: never thought anything out about it. Packed up. It's dark.
Speaker 1: I turn on my head lamp. I'm headed out of
Speaker 1: the woods and I get between the first snowmobile trail
Speaker 1: and the second snowmobile trail. I had something come flying
Speaker 1: by my face and it was a rock, probably about
Speaker 1: the size of a you know, a dodgeball, volleyball, whatever
Speaker 1: you want to call them. I went flying by my
Speaker 1: face and I turned, and you know, I yelled into
Speaker 1: the woods that you know, if it hit me, it
Speaker 1: would have probably killed me. And I said, don't do
Speaker 1: that again, or I'll be forced to defend myself. And
Speaker 1: no sooner did I say that. Another rock came by.
Speaker 1: I mean, the first one was probably about an inch
Speaker 1: or two off of my face, great at you know,
Speaker 1: eyeball level. The second one came by, and it literally
Speaker 1: scunned my nose. Same size rock, same area came out
Speaker 1: of I said, okay, I'm gonna have to defend myself,
Speaker 1: and I knocked an arrow to defend myself because that's
Speaker 1: the only way I could defend myself at that point.
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, a growl came out of
Speaker 1: the woods. A tree that was, you know, forty five
Speaker 1: feet tall and you know, twelve inches fourteen inches in diameter,
Speaker 1: just starts rocking back and forth. You know. The growl
Speaker 1: hit me, vibrated through my body, and that's when I
Speaker 1: looked at my arrow, and that why I was gone.
Speaker 1: I ran. It followed me all the way to my vehicle,
Speaker 1: and when I got to my vehicle, I'm at my
Speaker 1: vehicle and I'm literally you know, I heard it running
Speaker 1: the whole way, well, I was running, it was walking.
Speaker 1: I heard it walking alongside me the whole way, including
Speaker 1: where it went across a fifteen foot wide screen with
Speaker 1: only one stride hitting the stream. I'm at my vehicle,
Speaker 1: I'm looking for my keys. I've tossed my blind and
Speaker 1: my chair in the back of the truck, and I
Speaker 1: got my belly against the bet of the pickup truck
Speaker 1: and I look in literally only a foot and a
Speaker 1: half off the other side of the bed of the
Speaker 1: pickup truck. Here's this thing that's nine foot tall, sides
Speaker 1: of glowing. It looks like three football players put together, legs,
Speaker 1: you know, as big around as my body. I was
Speaker 1: just I was stunned, scared and everything else at the time,
Speaker 1: and you know, I kind of got out of there,
Speaker 1: called my uncle. Didn't go back there again for a
Speaker 1: couple of years. But over the you know, over the
Speaker 1: time before I went back, I got with my uncle
Speaker 1: and I learned more things. And in that period of time,
Speaker 1: I met the other co founder of the main big
Speaker 1: Foot Foundation. Her name was Janelle Krapp, and she told
Speaker 1: me her experience. And we had had two separate Facebook
Speaker 1: groups that were small, and we combined them together to
Speaker 1: make one group. And it wasn't long, probably a little bit,
Speaker 1: maybe a year. We had had the group, and we
Speaker 1: contacted by somebody to go and they had questions about
Speaker 1: Bigfoot mountain lions running together and we went to the property,
Speaker 1: met this lady. She's two and a half miles off
Speaker 1: of grid in the middle of the woods on an
Speaker 1: old town road from the eighteen hundreds, virtually no nobody
Speaker 1: else around, and she kind of told us the story,
Speaker 1: and she had contacted some other folks and they never
Speaker 1: really believed her or came out to see what was
Speaker 1: going on or anything. And that day we went out,
Speaker 1: three of us, and during the course of that day
Speaker 1: we found some footprints that were like a small child footprint,
Speaker 1: but only wider and you know, almost looked like an
Speaker 1: adolescent individual, you know, getting nine ten years old type.
Speaker 1: But this was in October of that year, late in
Speaker 1: October almost into November, right on the edge of a stream,
Speaker 1: and there's nobody else living around there, so you know,
Speaker 1: to figure out how young child's footprints going to go
Speaker 1: into a stream that's you know, thirty two degrees and
Speaker 1: just walking around barefoot, you know, it kind of struck
Speaker 1: us a little bit as odd. And we heard some
Speaker 1: kids' voices while we were there, which we were told
Speaker 1: that they had heard this before, but every time they
Speaker 1: went to look where the kids to see which kids
Speaker 1: were down there, who was down there? There was never
Speaker 1: anybody there. We heard it that day, and then we
Speaker 1: ended up seeing three separate times that day another individually lodger, sasquatch, bigfoot,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to give it for a name. I mean,
Speaker 1: we saw this thing when we were investigating the footprints
Speaker 1: along the stream bed. We were able to look across
Speaker 1: and see this thing crouched behind a very large tree
Speaker 1: that had blown over, and of course we could see
Speaker 1: its movements, couldn't see it fully until I made a
Speaker 1: move to go up and around. There was a bridge
Speaker 1: up above, and we went. I went up to the
Speaker 1: bridge to cross over to the other side of the stream,
Speaker 1: and when I did, this thing took off, and Janelle
Speaker 1: and the other gentleman that was with us, they physically
Speaker 1: saw it stand up and run directly behind the blowdown.
Speaker 1: So of course we did that whole investigation. We got
Speaker 1: this lady. We calculated everything because she was scared of
Speaker 1: the bigfoot, in the bigfoot and the mountain lion running together,
Speaker 1: and she had a cat that was missing that you know.
Speaker 1: Once before she called us. And the reason she was
Speaker 1: concerned was that when the cat had been missing two weeks,
Speaker 1: she went to leave to go out to a doctor's appointment.
Speaker 1: As she turned onto a road as an uphill, and
Speaker 1: on that uphill there was this creature. She said. It
Speaker 1: looked just like a man, but only much bigger. It
Speaker 1: stepped out into the road about seventy yardds in front
Speaker 1: of her and turned and looked at her like it
Speaker 1: had a sad face. She said, it looked like kind
Speaker 1: of like, as she described it, a monkey, but a
Speaker 1: human at the same time. And it bent down. It
Speaker 1: had its arms out in the cradle type position, and
Speaker 1: it bent down and laid something on the ground and
Speaker 1: then stood back up, looking down at her, And she said,
Speaker 1: I could almost she said, I could see the sadness
Speaker 1: in its face, but it looked like it was crying.
Speaker 1: She left it at that, you know, she pulled up
Speaker 1: the road once it was gone. You know, it took her,
Speaker 1: she said, five to ten minutes to get herself together
Speaker 1: to be able to go up there and see what
Speaker 1: it was. And the creature had literally brought out her
Speaker 1: pet cat and laid it in the road. And you know,
Speaker 1: that's why she was concerned whether the mountain lion the
Speaker 1: bigfoot running together. We did find evidence. We saw a
Speaker 1: bigfoot three times that day we found the jew of
Speaker 1: no prints alongside the stream. We found larger sixteen and
Speaker 1: seventeen inch footprints up on the hillside, so we knew
Speaker 1: the activity was there. Looked around for activity on the
Speaker 1: mountain lion. We made we were on the other side
Speaker 1: of the stream. We found a path that went down
Speaker 1: to the bottom of the waterfall that's part of the
Speaker 1: stream right there, and we made our way down to
Speaker 1: the bottom and we were going across the bottom and
Speaker 1: we found activity of a cat. But in talking to
Speaker 1: this lady previously, she had grown up in this same
Speaker 1: set of woods. There's a swamp there and it's two
Speaker 1: miles across the swamp and she was on the other
Speaker 1: side of the same swamp, and you know, she never
Speaker 1: felt the presence of being watched until the point of
Speaker 1: seeing the mountain lion the first time. And when we
Speaker 1: confirmed the mountain lion tracks, we got physical tracks out
Speaker 1: of the air of a mountain lion. Found the scratching
Speaker 1: posts mocked in the corner of their territory. The you know,
Speaker 1: dug up sand on the bottom where the cat had
Speaker 1: urinated in it, so we knew there was a mountain
Speaker 1: lion there. So we kind of talked to her and
Speaker 1: you know, putting one in one together to make that
Speaker 1: two and come up with an answer. We were able
Speaker 1: to give her a little comfort, you know, she had.
Speaker 1: We asked her a bunch of questions when we called
Speaker 1: her back and asked her, you know, had you ever
Speaker 1: heard calls? And we played some bigfoot calls, including the
Speaker 1: Sierra sounds to her when and we asked her, have
Speaker 1: you ever heard these before? And she says, yeah, I
Speaker 1: used to hear them all the time when I was
Speaker 1: growing up on the other side of the swamp. And
Speaker 1: I said, well, you know, two miles across the swamp
Speaker 1: is not very far from one of these creatures, you know,
Speaker 1: and you know, get talking to her, and I says,
Speaker 1: you know, perhaps when you moved into this property over
Speaker 1: here when you were grown, it recognized you as maybe
Speaker 1: it was an young individual when you were young, and
Speaker 1: that you know, you grew up around it. Didn't know
Speaker 1: you grew up around it, And now you're over on
Speaker 1: this side, and all of a sudden there's a danger,
Speaker 1: and it knows there's a danger with a mountain lion.
Speaker 1: So you know, you're calling for your cat, you know,
Speaker 1: looking for your cat, and you know, you know, it
Speaker 1: knows there's a mountain lion that it grew up around you.
Speaker 1: It's gonna more than likely it you know, it knows you,
Speaker 1: and it's going to try to protect you. And that
Speaker 1: calmed her fears a lot. And that's the point that
Speaker 1: we decided to go ahead and make a nonprofit. You know,
Speaker 1: I was sitting in a deer stand the next month
Speaker 1: and I said, I wrote to Janelle on Messenger and
Speaker 1: I said, hey, you know, you know, if we're going
Speaker 1: to go do investigations, why don't we do investigations at
Speaker 1: no charge. You know, let's be a let's be a nonprofit.
Speaker 1: Let's be able to take you know, if somebody donates money,
Speaker 1: we buy equipment, and you know, let's make this into
Speaker 1: something that's more educational. And that's what we did. And
Speaker 1: it was at that point that after being chased out
Speaker 1: of the woods, after making my own Facebook after page
Speaker 1: about Bigfoot, after getting with Janel and then combining our
Speaker 1: pages and you know, going out and doing this investigation,
Speaker 1: it kind of, you know, pushed us to the point of,
Speaker 1: you know, we know there's organizations out there that do
Speaker 1: the investigatations, that go out and do all these kind
Speaker 1: of things and that you know, it's a quick you're
Speaker 1: gathering the data points, you're gathering the different things, and
Speaker 1: you're putting it online and then you know the contact
Speaker 1: is that's pretty much where it ends. And you might
Speaker 1: do a talk here or there at a different festival
Speaker 1: or something, but you kind of go with Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: done with this area. You know, this person's given me
Speaker 1: the information, and then you know that's where the person
Speaker 1: kind of goes on the wayside. I've had experiences like that,
Speaker 1: you know, I've done interviews with other investigators that came
Speaker 1: over and heard my story of where I got chased
Speaker 1: out of the woods, and you know, they all said
Speaker 1: I was very credible, and that was great. But you know,
Speaker 1: after that point, you're your contact with them becomes very limited.
Speaker 1: And we wanted to take what we learn out in
Speaker 1: the field and use it to educate people, you know,
Speaker 1: whether it be a town hall meeting, talk at a
Speaker 1: conference somewhere, or talk at a nursing home or in
Speaker 1: daycare or you know some are wreck camp, you know,
Speaker 1: just to teach people what we've learned from our encounters.
Speaker 1: And I started going backwards at that time, thinking about
Speaker 1: all the different things in the different sounds and noises
Speaker 1: and smells and lack of sounds that I've had over
Speaker 1: the years, you know, growing up. I mean, I was
Speaker 1: in the woods at eight years old, my dad hunting,
Speaker 1: and you know, I used to go out there and
Speaker 1: two and a half miles out into the middle of
Speaker 1: a five mile square between the roads and in a
Speaker 1: swamp with a lot of magnesium. So I, you know,
Speaker 1: I get to learn that compasses aren't always perfect, that
Speaker 1: you need to learn how to get out of the woods.
Speaker 1: You know, I'd learned all that stuff, and I never
Speaker 1: really you know, the legend of Boggie Creek came out,
Speaker 1: I was probably eight years old, and you know, I
Speaker 1: watched it, and I had a lot of interest in
Speaker 1: the Native American lore and stuff, so I kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't relate any of that stuff until
Speaker 1: after we started doing the you know, nonprofit, and I
Speaker 1: started going back through my memories and the different things.
Speaker 1: I mean, I came to the realization that, man, I've
Speaker 1: had encounters all my life and I never knew exactly
Speaker 1: what they really were. And I started backtracking and going
Speaker 1: over those encounters and telling them all up and it
Speaker 1: just I ended up with seventeen times that I can
Speaker 1: physically say where yes, I absolutely saw a one, or
Speaker 1: I had a smell or you know, seventeen encounters of
Speaker 1: physically seeing them, you know, and I had the smells
Speaker 1: were there, and all the different things were just kind
Speaker 1: of added up to the whole Bigfoot phenomenon. And you know,
Speaker 1: I dug all the way back to you know, seventy
Speaker 1: two or seventy three, being in a suburban that my
Speaker 1: grandfather had bought. We'd gone to a game preserve that
Speaker 1: they released pheasants on. My father, my aunt, my grandfather,
Speaker 1: my uncle, and my grandfather's friend were all out hunting pheasants.
Speaker 1: Me and my grandmother sat in the vehicle, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's very scary things happen sometimes when you're out there
Speaker 1: that you know, if you don't realize what it is.
Speaker 1: But my grandmother had told me to Suddenly I'm playing
Speaker 1: in the back, the very back seat, and she suddenly
Speaker 1: tells me that, you know, Michael, take this blanket, get
Speaker 1: under the seat, don't make a noise, put the blanket
Speaker 1: over you stay hidden no matter what. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a little kid. I was kind of like, well,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? You know? And I did
Speaker 1: it because she was my grandmother, and I listened to her,
Speaker 1: and I slowly I watched her slowly reach and lock
Speaker 1: the door in the back where she was sitting, and
Speaker 1: then gradually locked the other two doors, and I couldn't
Speaker 1: figure out why she was doing all this. Then she
Speaker 1: pulled the other blanket that we had with us over
Speaker 1: herself as she laid in the back seat. Both seats
Speaker 1: were bent sheets in the back. And I didn't really
Speaker 1: think nothing of it. My father came back, knocked on
Speaker 1: the door. When he tried to open it was locked.
Speaker 1: My grandmother looked up, opened the door, stepped out, talked
Speaker 1: to him and told me, Michael, stay there. Of course,
Speaker 1: you know, now my dad's there. So I'm what's going on?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm up in the seat and not thinking
Speaker 1: anything of it. And all of a sudden, my grandfather's there,
Speaker 1: my uncle's there. You know. They've all just come back
Speaker 1: to the truck. They've all they're all unloaded, they all
Speaker 1: load back up. My grandmother locks all the doors. They're
Speaker 1: looking onto the truck. They're looking in the woods around
Speaker 1: the truck, up and down the roads. They got their
Speaker 1: guns loaded, and I'm like, Okay, did a bird come
Speaker 1: out or what. But now that I've known what I
Speaker 1: know now, I think back of that, and you know,
Speaker 1: my grandmother talking and the bits and pieces of the
Speaker 1: conversation that I caught when I was that young child,
Speaker 1: was you know, uh looked like man, not sure or scared,
Speaker 1: you know, things like that caught in my mind. So
Speaker 1: I look back on that and I go, you know, really,
Speaker 1: was that my first actual encounter and not you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't have a visual on it because I was
Speaker 1: hiding under the blanket doing what my grandmother said. But
Speaker 1: then that caused me to go through the experiences I
Speaker 1: had well hunting, you know, seeing things that just didn't
Speaker 1: make sense at the time when I was hunting. You know,
Speaker 1: I just want at a time picking these things apart.
Speaker 1: You shoot a deer sixteen years old, I'm in a
Speaker 1: tree stand in this two and a half center point
Speaker 1: of that five mile square, and you know, I shoot
Speaker 1: a deer. Then I watch what looks to be a
Speaker 1: person in the gilly suit walk the same trail as
Speaker 1: the deer. Knew I'd hit the deer. My father comes
Speaker 1: along fifteen minutes later, it goes, oh, well, walks right
Speaker 1: where that person was, finds a blood trail. I thought
Speaker 1: to myself back then, you know, hey, I didn't see
Speaker 1: that guy carrying a gunne it's November. He's not wearing orange,
Speaker 1: you know. I explained all that to my father, and
Speaker 1: my father follows the blood trail, gets to a point
Speaker 1: where there's a pile of blood but no deer, and
Speaker 1: the person that I thought I had saw was walked
Speaker 1: the same trail, went into the same spot where I
Speaker 1: heard the deer fall. And now the deer's gone. And
Speaker 1: my father looked for forty five minutes, couldn't find nothing.
Speaker 1: So you know, I kind of wrote that off, and
Speaker 1: I stayed, you know, in the tree stand. He said,
Speaker 1: the deer's gone. The guy must have dragged it off.
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking to myself, but the guy wasn't carrying
Speaker 1: a gun. The guy wasn't wearing orange. You know, he
Speaker 1: who is this guy? You know? And you know, I
Speaker 1: kind of wrote wrote that one off, you know, So
Speaker 1: I started going back through and seeing the different things
Speaker 1: I'd seen out in that patch of woods. You know
Speaker 1: that I thought I saw something, but then there was
Speaker 1: nobody there. And at the same time, I had those
Speaker 1: smells I had. The lack of noise, dead silence in
Speaker 1: the woods is very unusual unless you get a apex
Speaker 1: predator around. And you know, it's one of the things
Speaker 1: that researchers have said, you know, when the woods go dead, quiet, quiet,
Speaker 1: you get to watch and you know, all those little
Speaker 1: things that happened out there in the woods. And then
Speaker 1: I started piling things up and in my mind my
Speaker 1: thought processes, you know, we're developing this foundation, and I'm going, well,
Speaker 1: I've seen that, I've seen this, you know. And my
Speaker 1: uncle taught me different things of what to look for
Speaker 1: to find tracks because he always he was always casting
Speaker 1: tracks in the woods. You know, every time he went out,
Speaker 1: he'd come back new cast, you know, and it just
Speaker 1: it was crazy. You know, you could see you could
Speaker 1: look at his cast and you could see the actual
Speaker 1: design of a foot So, you know, I got into
Speaker 1: looking more and more at it, and he taught me
Speaker 1: simple things, don't you know, don't look for a whole footprint.
Speaker 1: Hearing me, ninety five percent of the time, you're not
Speaker 1: going to find the whole footprint. You're going to find
Speaker 1: a piece of a footprint, you know, whether it be
Speaker 1: the front pot of the foot with the toes or
Speaker 1: the backpot looking like a heel or something had dug
Speaker 1: into the ground. You got to go looking for it.
Speaker 1: You gravel and your clay that's on the ground makes
Speaker 1: it very hard to find the tracks. And if you're
Speaker 1: in the woods on an old logging road, you get
Speaker 1: all the leaf litter, all the pine needles, you know.
Speaker 1: So learning from him, I got out there and then
Speaker 1: looking for tracks and whatnot. And you know, the more
Speaker 1: I went out, the more I found tracks, it became
Speaker 1: easier and easier for me. I mean, we went out
Speaker 1: this past weekend. We took a small group out into
Speaker 1: the woods on a trail. The trail goes from the
Speaker 1: river's edge up into the area where I actually hunted
Speaker 1: off this field and get chased out of the woods.
Speaker 1: So we took that path up in there, and you know,
Speaker 1: on a couple of different places we found some footprints,
Speaker 1: footprints with the toes and you know, the whole heel,
Speaker 1: the whole nine yards. But you were picking up just
Speaker 1: the front pot of the foot, of the back pot
Speaker 1: of the foot, and then you look at it and
Speaker 1: you can see this kind of a shape in there.
Speaker 1: And we we we can uncovered some footprints and you
Speaker 1: know I did, I did a call and after the call,
Speaker 1: I got some whistles back, so you know there was
Speaker 1: still activity up in that area. And you're talking to
Speaker 1: many other hunters that are have hunted that area that
Speaker 1: they've had activity like that, They've had you know, the
Speaker 1: guy in the gilly sup and he's not hunting, and
Speaker 1: you know, why is he out there? So you know,
Speaker 1: I pay attention a lot more. And that's I find
Speaker 1: that that's the biggest thing with people who don't have encounters.
Speaker 1: They they don't realize they actually do have an encounter
Speaker 1: because they're not paying attention to the full picture. They're looking,
Speaker 1: you know, down at their feet to make sure they're
Speaker 1: not tripping because they're in the woods. You know, they
Speaker 1: don't want to trip on anything and fall down hurt themselves.
Speaker 1: They might be on a rocky trail. They're looking to
Speaker 1: make sure they get good footing. They're not paying attention
Speaker 1: to what's around them. You know, I've learned all those
Speaker 1: things over the years. Slow and steady when you're out there,
Speaker 1: move along slowly, look with your eyes not just down
Speaker 1: but in front of you, off to the sides, up
Speaker 1: into the trees. You know, you've got stories of these
Speaker 1: creatures being in trees, swinging back and forth, you know,
Speaker 1: young ones, and you know some of the trees up here,
Speaker 1: and we were in the woods this weekend with trees
Speaker 1: that were you know, I couldn't put my arms all
Speaker 1: the way around them. They were thirty six thirty eight
Speaker 1: inches in diameter. You know, this huge, massive you know,
Speaker 1: hemlocks and pines that you know, tower hundred feet in
Speaker 1: the air. It's just crazy. You know, you've got to
Speaker 1: understand that these creatures are out there, this is their home.
Speaker 1: And you know, I teach people that all the time.
Speaker 1: You know, listen, you know, pay attention. If there's lack
Speaker 1: of noise, you know, you squirrel ain't running around, or
Speaker 1: your mouse ain't running around. They're not moving for a reason.
Speaker 1: The bird's not chirping for a reason. They're you know,
Speaker 1: everything's staying dead silent for a reason. Even the frogs.
Speaker 1: I mean I've had times at frogs. You know, they're croaking, croaking, croaking,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you get that rancid smell
Speaker 1: from one of these things, and the frogs are suddenly dead, silent.
Speaker 1: There's no birds there's no chipmunks, there's no squirrels, there
Speaker 1: no noises at all in the woods, and you get
Speaker 1: this bad smell. Well, you get a feeling at that
Speaker 1: point you know you there's something wrong. The hair on
Speaker 1: the back of your neck will stand up, and you
Speaker 1: know I have I have that feeling, you know, quite
Speaker 1: often when I'm out there. You know, if I'm out
Speaker 1: there alone, I can I can sense when they're around
Speaker 1: because i know what I'm listening for, what I'm smelling,
Speaker 1: what I'm you know, what's going on. I'm aware of
Speaker 1: my surroundings. And you know, that's a lot what a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't do in this day and age
Speaker 1: when they're out in the woods there. You know, we're
Speaker 1: in a hurry. The whole world's in a hurry, even
Speaker 1: you know hunters. I want to get to my deer stand,
Speaker 1: I want to get set up. I want to, you know,
Speaker 1: do it as quickly as possible, and I'm not paying
Speaker 1: attention to what's going on around me. I've watched people
Speaker 1: walk by deer that, you know, on their way to
Speaker 1: their stand. They walk right by a deer that's twenty
Speaker 1: yards away and they don't even see it. So you know,
Speaker 1: the whole big Quick phenomenon has been quite the thing.
Speaker 1: Seventeen encounters, you know, is just mind blowing to a
Speaker 1: lot of people. To me, it's just a normal day
Speaker 1: in the woods, you know, to have something like that happen.
Speaker 1: I do I consider myself lucky to have those kind
Speaker 1: of encounters, Yes, I absolutely I do. You know, I
Speaker 1: was talking with Vic before we reported the show here,
Speaker 1: and then I was telling him about an outing that
Speaker 1: we did with another well known person and you know
Speaker 1: that was up helping a group out up here in Maine.
Speaker 1: And before that person even arrived, I went out in
Speaker 1: the woods and I had one of our board members
Speaker 1: and I was an investigator, and one of our former
Speaker 1: board members that was with me, and we went down
Speaker 1: this trail and we were just you know, it was
Speaker 1: one after another. This trail has been phenomenal over the
Speaker 1: years and showing us, you know, the activity that's going on,
Speaker 1: whether it be footprints or structures whatnot. I mean, we
Speaker 1: went down the trail and as we're going along, we
Speaker 1: were counting the different footprints that we identified and what
Speaker 1: ones could be castable and what wasn't castable. Of course,
Speaker 1: the ground was hot gravel, old logging road would play
Speaker 1: that it flowed in over the years. You know, at
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty five pounds, I wasn't even leaving
Speaker 1: an indentation in the ground itself. And we identified one
Speaker 1: track in the center of a trail, and there's several
Speaker 1: trails that go off from that from old logging operations.
Speaker 1: And as we identified that, one of the individuals that
Speaker 1: was with me, you know it's the investigator, he said,
Speaker 1: go down and check this next one down. And as
Speaker 1: he stood up, he looked down the trail that went
Speaker 1: down beside us, and he looks down there and he says,
Speaker 1: holy crap, dude. He says, I just saw something big
Speaker 1: and black go from the right to the left. It
Speaker 1: was on two legs, it was standing. It was about
Speaker 1: eight feet tall, and it was it was like just
Speaker 1: a quick step out and step across, and it was
Speaker 1: across the trail. Of course, you know, you're only talking
Speaker 1: to skit a trail, so it's not like a regular road.
Speaker 1: It's very thin. One step is all it took for
Speaker 1: this thing to get across that trail. And he's like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go up to this next road and
Speaker 1: I'll see if I could look down that road and
Speaker 1: see it cross. And he goes up there and he
Speaker 1: looks and he's looking down the road and he sees nothing.
Speaker 1: So he looks down and he goes, oh, I got
Speaker 1: a footprint over here. So he ended up casting that
Speaker 1: footprint because what happened was when he saw the footprint,
Speaker 1: he says, Okay, I'm going to go out and get
Speaker 1: my plaster because I didn't put it in my pack,
Speaker 1: which was a silly move on his part. But he
Speaker 1: goes out to go get the plaster, and the other
Speaker 1: person that was with me, the former board member, decides
Speaker 1: to cast the one that we had found that was
Speaker 1: potentially castable. He had his plaster with him, he had
Speaker 1: his water. We mixed it up, you know, he had
Speaker 1: This is the first time he'd done it. So I
Speaker 1: instructed him, you know, how the mixture should look like,
Speaker 1: how careful he should be, what he should do to
Speaker 1: make sure that he gets the print. And by this time,
Speaker 1: the other investigator had walked out of the woods, got
Speaker 1: his you know, rushed out of the woods, I should say,
Speaker 1: down the trail. You know, we were only probably two
Speaker 1: hundred yards from camp at this point. So he made
Speaker 1: the quick trip out, got his stuff, came back in.
Speaker 1: Said to me as he's going by, he says, it's here.
Speaker 1: He said, I heard the growling noise that we, you know,
Speaker 1: have identified as potentially being a bigfoot in the past.
Speaker 1: And he says, you know, I got the growl on
Speaker 1: the way out. I get the growl on the way in.
Speaker 1: I heard it. It followed me out almost to the field,
Speaker 1: followed me back in. So now I'm standing there with
Speaker 1: the first guy in the trail, the main trail, and
Speaker 1: we're casting this track, and the other investigator's gone over
Speaker 1: he's got to cast his track. And I look up
Speaker 1: down the trail where he had seen it go from
Speaker 1: right to laugh and I see this thing step out
Speaker 1: in the trail and step across the trail. I know
Speaker 1: exactly what it is. It's where we're only fifty yards
Speaker 1: from this thing. You can't mistake it. I got the
Speaker 1: cones shaped head the whole nine yards blocking color. This
Speaker 1: thing just moves across the sweat street the trail in
Speaker 1: a smooth movement. You know. It was just like almost
Speaker 1: like a gliding type movement. There was no glitch in
Speaker 1: its step, no nothing. It just goes across the trail.
Speaker 1: It's got these long arms, you know, they go almost
Speaker 1: down to its knees. And I'm like, holy crap, there's one.
Speaker 1: And the guy that's casting the track looks down the
Speaker 1: season the movement going into the brush, and I said,
Speaker 1: I'm going down and check it out. So they're both
Speaker 1: over there. They're watching me to make sure, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm staying safe. And I go down to where this
Speaker 1: thing crosses and I find a seventeen inch track right there.
Speaker 1: You know, the grass is still coming back up. I
Speaker 1: can see the track. The grass is coming up in
Speaker 1: the track. You know, literally this thing is stepped on
Speaker 1: the grass and the grass is just coming up. When
Speaker 1: I get down there and I look to the left
Speaker 1: and there's a teepee like structure twenty yards away right
Speaker 1: at the edge of you know a little open space
Speaker 1: in this patch of woods, and go over. It smells,
Speaker 1: you know, the teepee smells horrible. We're casting the two tracks.
Speaker 1: We come back out. Of course, you know, they let
Speaker 1: the individuals that come to the event kind of go
Speaker 1: out and do their thing, go check things out, but
Speaker 1: you know, don't get lost type of situations. Stay on
Speaker 1: the trail. And they come to you know, stop people
Speaker 1: from come down the trail because obviously we had cast
Speaker 1: some tracks we wanted to go at them, sit and
Speaker 1: the ball before we had cast a twenty and a
Speaker 1: half inch footprint cast down on this same property, probably
Speaker 1: about two hundred and fifty odds through the woods from
Speaker 1: where we were right on the edge of a swamp.
Speaker 1: So activity level on the property was high, and we
Speaker 1: just kind of set ourselves in the right spot. You know,
Speaker 1: when we get there, we go take a walk, we
Speaker 1: go look for new evidence before we start taking groups out.
Speaker 1: Before groups are allowed to go out, you know, they
Speaker 1: give us twenty thirty minutes to get out there and
Speaker 1: check things out first. And you know, having seen one,
Speaker 1: you know, the board member that's also an investigator, he
Speaker 1: had seen one, and then literally, you know, seven eight
Speaker 1: minutes later, after he's come back in, I see the
Speaker 1: same but going in the opposite direction. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was because it didn't want to cross the
Speaker 1: trail that he was on the edge of where he
Speaker 1: could see down that road, but it took the chance,
Speaker 1: you know, because obviously I'm thinking because we were focused
Speaker 1: downwards looking at the track that was being currently cast,
Speaker 1: So you know, I happened to look up at the
Speaker 1: right time, and you know, we cast those two tracks.
Speaker 1: Size of these casts, these footprint casts, which have the
Speaker 1: full toes, the midcastle break, the whole nine yards in them.
Speaker 1: One was twenty two inches long and the other one
Speaker 1: was twenty three inches long, with a nine and three
Speaker 1: quarter across the front on the twenty two inch and
Speaker 1: almost eleven inches on the twenty three inch for a width,
Speaker 1: which is consistent with what we were finding for tracks
Speaker 1: in that area the year before. So the eighteen inch
Speaker 1: tracks that I found down the trail told me probably
Speaker 1: a little bit younger. So we cast those tracks. We
Speaker 1: brought them back to camp. You know, we get them
Speaker 1: all measured, you got to toes, everything's there, and you
Speaker 1: know it kind of we did all of that before.
Speaker 1: The more well known individual that was doing that was there,
Speaker 1: you know, it was helping out at the event. Was there.
Speaker 1: Of course they you know, they had a lot further
Speaker 1: to travel than we did, and we'd always go up
Speaker 1: and set up early anyway. So but you know, these
Speaker 1: these encounters, it's random. It's just encounters that you're not expecting.
Speaker 1: Five percent of time I put an encounter in the
Speaker 1: category of for some reason, we surprised it, or it
Speaker 1: surprised us, you know, was it following us with a
Speaker 1: curiosity to see what we were, did it smell us
Speaker 1: and had that curiosity to see if we were a
Speaker 1: danger in their zone? Or you know, did we come
Speaker 1: up on a downwind side of it where it couldn't
Speaker 1: scent us. You know, you look at encounters, and a
Speaker 1: good portion of encounters that people record for these creatures
Speaker 1: are you know, out of the blue, unexpected. You know,
Speaker 1: there seems to be a surprise not only in the
Speaker 1: individuals that are having the owners, but also the creatures themselves.
Speaker 1: There's you know, things that are hard to explain in
Speaker 1: a lot of people, you know, their their minds. They
Speaker 1: don't want to have the realization that there's something else
Speaker 1: out there. And you know, when they have an encounter
Speaker 1: and they don't know what it is, they speak out
Speaker 1: about it and then somebody laughs at them, makes you know,
Speaker 1: makes fun of them more. You know, it gives them
Speaker 1: some other explanation that you know, oh, it could have
Speaker 1: been this, or oh it could have been that, you know,
Speaker 1: instead of hey, I don't understand what you saw, Yes,
Speaker 1: it could have been something else. Potentially, but you said
Speaker 1: it was on two legs, you know, so people write
Speaker 1: it off a lot more often than they should. I've
Speaker 1: spoken it, you know, different events, and I can sit
Speaker 1: in a room at this point, I can sit in
Speaker 1: a room and I can look around the room and
Speaker 1: I can say, this person had an encounter. But they're
Speaker 1: you know, they're the ones that's sitting there and they
Speaker 1: they're hands are down, they're not raising their hand to
Speaker 1: ask questions. They're paying attention to what you're saying, but
Speaker 1: they don't want anybody around them to realize, you know,
Speaker 1: that there's that they may have saw something, you know,
Speaker 1: so they kind of hide it away. And at the
Speaker 1: end of you know, you talk, you ask, you know,
Speaker 1: anybody want to tell their story, and you get a
Speaker 1: few people that raise their hand, they tell their story.
Speaker 1: But then those same individuals that were paying attention to
Speaker 1: you so steadfastly and they show that interest and they're
Speaker 1: trying to bring the information into their brain to help
Speaker 1: them justify what has happened to them in the past.
Speaker 1: And they just sit there and quietly wait till everybody
Speaker 1: else leaves. And when everybody else leaves, you see them
Speaker 1: get up and they might come up at that point
Speaker 1: and ask you a question. You know, I didn't want
Speaker 1: to ask it when everybody else was around because I
Speaker 1: didn't want to sound stupid or something of that nature.
Speaker 1: You know, fifteen twenty minutes, sometimes an hour later, they'll
Speaker 1: they come find you, you know, they're walking around at
Speaker 1: this conference or at this event and they come find
Speaker 1: you in you know, they might even walk up behind you.
Speaker 1: I've had them walk up behind me and kind of
Speaker 1: lean in and hey, I get more questions. I got
Speaker 1: this is what happened to me, And they tell you
Speaker 1: this story, and you know, like, well, you know, welcome,
Speaker 1: welcome to the small group of people that have actually
Speaker 1: physically had an encounter. I mean, if you look at
Speaker 1: the worldwide population for people, you know, and the number
Speaker 1: of encounters that are actually physically reported and recorded, they're
Speaker 1: they're small, but the number of people out there who
Speaker 1: have actually had encounters is just it grows every day.
Speaker 1: Here on my property in Maine, I had a gentleman
Speaker 1: living in my house with his wife and child at
Speaker 1: the time, and they didn't have a place to go,
Speaker 1: and I offered him a bedroom to stay in because
Speaker 1: they didn't have the money to go and you know,
Speaker 1: rent a place of their own at the time. And
Speaker 1: they both of them smoked, and I told them, if
Speaker 1: you know you smoke, you smoke outside. And one night
Speaker 1: the gentleman walked out on my out of my back
Speaker 1: door and he goes down the steps, he goes out
Speaker 1: on the back lawn and he's sitting there and there's
Speaker 1: there's a quite a dip in a gully. You know.
Speaker 1: It probably goes down fifteen twenty feet between my house
Speaker 1: and my neighbor's house, and it's about sixty seventy yards wide.
Speaker 1: And he's out there smoking a cigarette. And I was
Speaker 1: cooking something on the stove and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: he comes running in. He's white as a ghost, and uh.
Speaker 1: He looks at me and he says, dude, I just
Speaker 1: urinated in my pants, you know. I said why, And
Speaker 1: he's white as a ghost and he says, well, the
Speaker 1: gully between your house and the neighbor's house. I said yeah.
Speaker 1: He says, I turned around and looked down into that
Speaker 1: gully and he says there's there was somebody standing there,
Speaker 1: and he says it wasn't a small person. He says,
Speaker 1: I could see from the waystop and you know at
Speaker 1: that point, I'm thinking, I look out that back window
Speaker 1: all the time, you know, out and towards that gully,
Speaker 1: the grass and the shrubs and that gully four and
Speaker 1: a half five feet call and you're seeing from the waistop. Oh,
Speaker 1: you know this thing's huge. He says. Yeah. It was
Speaker 1: like it was like three football players. It was put
Speaker 1: together with all their pads on. And you know, the
Speaker 1: arms were as big around as my leg. And you know,
Speaker 1: he wasn't a small boy, you know, he had a
Speaker 1: nice big leg. And he's like, dude, this this thing
Speaker 1: is get an arm as big as my leg. And
Speaker 1: he said the legs. I can see the top of
Speaker 1: the legs in it, almost as thick as my body.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right, I know what that is.
Speaker 1: And then he says, oh, and it glowed its sizes
Speaker 1: at me. I run out the back door with a
Speaker 1: flashlight and I'm running along a.
Speaker 6: Gully going where are you. I'm looking. He's like, dude,
Speaker 6: that they can rip you apot.
Speaker 1: His wife's now outside.
Speaker 6: She's yelling at me, come back, come back, don't go.
Speaker 6: You don't have anything to protect yourself as a shut up,
Speaker 6: you know. So I'm running along the edge of the
Speaker 6: woods looking for this thing in the gully, you know,
Speaker 6: and I get to the end of my lawn. There's
Speaker 6: a field up above that I could follow the gully
Speaker 6: and I can hear something very heavy footfalls going down
Speaker 6: through this gully, but I never saw it. So, you know,
Speaker 6: activity just it seems to follow me around same house.
Speaker 6: One morning, I hear a howl about one hundred and
Speaker 6: fifty two hundred yards away across the field, just on
Speaker 6: the other side of a woodline where there's another field.
Speaker 1: I hear this howl. I howl back. I go back
Speaker 1: and forth with four thirty in the morning. I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I'm making howls. It's making hows. I make whoops, it
Speaker 1: makes whoops. It's it's kind of crazy. And then my
Speaker 1: wife at the time yells and she says, shut up,
Speaker 1: you're gonna wake the kids up because it's four thirty
Speaker 1: in the morning. I'm like, so I kind of put
Speaker 1: the window down, you know, finish doing what I was doing,
Speaker 1: getting ready for work, and I go out and I
Speaker 1: leave my driveway, and of course I'm backing out of
Speaker 1: my driveway and on the road side of my house,
Speaker 1: there's some lilac bushes, and you know a lilac bush,
Speaker 1: how about some of the branches in the middle are
Speaker 1: probably three and a half four inches in diameter. You know,
Speaker 1: at this point, I've already tried, you know, breaking lilac
Speaker 1: branches that were hanging out too far off when I
Speaker 1: was mowing. I tried snapping them off before, and they
Speaker 1: couldn't do that, so I had to end up cutting them.
Speaker 1: You know, I go to work, the lilac bush is
Speaker 1: in perfect shape. I come home and one of these
Speaker 1: branches that's three and a half four inches stick is
Speaker 1: just kind of hanging out off the side of it.
Speaker 1: And I go in. I asked my wife and says,
Speaker 1: you know, what happened to the bush? You know, there
Speaker 1: was no wind today. How that? How did that thing break?
Speaker 1: That's one of the bigger branches in there. She's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. She's I got up this morning and
Speaker 1: take kids to school and it was like that. So
Speaker 1: I go out front and I look at it, and
Speaker 1: this lilac branch had literally been pulled. It was. It
Speaker 1: was like it was pulled upwoods and twisted because it
Speaker 1: was never completely snapped off completely, but it was every
Speaker 1: strand and fiber, and that thing was literally ripped apart
Speaker 1: with only a very few fibers left holding it in place,
Speaker 1: and it was literally pulled out from the center of
Speaker 1: the tree and it was twisted like a candy cane
Speaker 1: at the center where it had been ripped out. And
Speaker 1: I just kind of went, well, I think I probably
Speaker 1: made that guy a gal sasquatch just morning a little upset,
Speaker 1: because that's the only thing that I can think of
Speaker 1: that would have that kind of power to be able
Speaker 1: to do that. And you know, I'm at two hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty five pounds, and you know, working in the
Speaker 1: beer industry all my life, I you know, I had
Speaker 1: some muscles, I had some strength, and it's just I
Speaker 1: couldn't break a branch, one of those lilac branches half
Speaker 1: that big with my bare hands. You know. It was
Speaker 1: a saw or a set of clippers, you know, for
Speaker 1: the smaller branches. I couldn't even rip one of the smaller,
Speaker 1: you know, pinky thickness branches off the tree. It couldn't
Speaker 1: even snap it and break that off of the tree. So,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever it did, this had to be huge,
Speaker 1: and you know, it was just there's some my awakening
Speaker 1: things that you know, you see or you hear, or
Speaker 1: you feel when you're out there, and you got to
Speaker 1: understand his power and these things. But you got to
Speaker 1: understand also at the same time that if they wanted
Speaker 1: to hurt you, they could. But you don't have a
Speaker 1: lot of that reported stuff that you know, where they
Speaker 1: actually physically injured an individual. There's reports out there of
Speaker 1: them helping individuals in the wild that are injured, you know,
Speaker 1: stories from different people that report these things that you know, Hey,
Speaker 1: kid disappears in the wilderness. They do a search. I
Speaker 1: can't mind the kid. They're doing a grid search of
Speaker 1: another area, and all of a sudden they find the
Speaker 1: kid up on a cliff. So this child is up
Speaker 1: on a cliff. He's on a ledge about halfway up
Speaker 1: the cliff. And you know, young, young child. He can talk,
Speaker 1: you know, very few words. And the rescuers, you know,
Speaker 1: happened to share him when they're at the edge of
Speaker 1: the cliff on their search, and they hear a voice,
Speaker 1: a little voice, and they look up the cliff and
Speaker 1: here's this child on the edge of a cliff on
Speaker 1: a ledge, you know, And of course they scramble, they
Speaker 1: find their way up to them. They get to them,
Speaker 1: they're trying to get them down, and they said to him,
Speaker 1: they said, you know, how did you get up here?
Speaker 1: And he just kind of points up, he says bear.
Speaker 1: And they look up and they see ahead looking over
Speaker 1: the edge of the cliff down at him, and they
Speaker 1: note that it's you know, it's not a bear, it's
Speaker 1: something else looks human. So they didn't know what it was,
Speaker 1: but literally the child was you know, you know, in
Speaker 1: conversations with the child later on with his parents there,
Speaker 1: they're trying to figure it all out. You know, he
Speaker 1: was lost to this thing found him and kind of
Speaker 1: led him by hand, I guess to a point, and
Speaker 1: there was danger. There was you know, well for something
Speaker 1: a mountain lion or something I can't remember what it
Speaker 1: was that was around, and it climbed the cliff with
Speaker 1: him and set him on the ledge and kind of
Speaker 1: finished climbing up the cliff, and you know, it was
Speaker 1: watching over him, you know, to make sure he was safe,
Speaker 1: you know, because at that point the rescuers were getting
Speaker 1: there when it climbed the cliff the rest of the
Speaker 1: way and it just kind of watched him, and you know,
Speaker 1: they saved this child. So you know, stories are out there,
Speaker 1: we just don't hear them all. We don't hear a
Speaker 1: lot of encounters. You know, every time I announced that
Speaker 1: the Main Bigfoot Foundation is going to to do some
Speaker 1: kind of live event or something like that, I always
Speaker 1: get replies of, Oh wow, that's in my area. I've
Speaker 1: had this happened in my area. What do you think
Speaker 1: it is? You know, And then next thing I know,
Speaker 1: I'm getting you know, private messages on messenger to you know,
Speaker 1: talk about it. And you know, I got a guy
Speaker 1: in Northern Potter, Maine that I'm I'm working with right
Speaker 1: now in counter last fall. You know, I got a
Speaker 1: guy down in the southern pot of Main that I've
Speaker 1: been working with for three years. He's always constantly calling
Speaker 1: me telling me, giving me updates of what's going on
Speaker 1: on activity on his property. And I got people righting
Speaker 1: the area around me that call and tell me these things. So,
Speaker 1: you know, the Main Bigfoot Foundation, we try to do
Speaker 1: events during the course of the summer to take people
Speaker 1: and get them back out in the woods, get them,
Speaker 1: educate them about what's out there. Will teach everything from
Speaker 1: you know, foraging, what you can eat in the forest,
Speaker 1: you know too, you know what to look for for tracks,
Speaker 1: whether it be bigfoot tracks or a deer tracks or
Speaker 1: whatever it might be. And you know, and of course
Speaker 1: in the fall of the year, we have a festival
Speaker 1: that we started last year. For the last year. It
Speaker 1: was our first year with the festival. You know, little
Speaker 1: town in the middle of nowhere, northwestern part of the
Speaker 1: state of Maine. Uh. It just we were expecting, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe a couple hundred people. We ended up with seven
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty people in town because there's there was
Speaker 1: no real festivals being held up here in Maine related
Speaker 1: to the big foot topic. And you know, we promoted
Speaker 1: the festival. I was one of the speakers, and the
Speaker 1: Loring Coleman of the Cryptozoology Museum. You've also probably seen
Speaker 1: on Small Town Monsters and some of the other programs
Speaker 1: like What's out There I think is the name of
Speaker 1: the program, and you know he's been on those as
Speaker 1: you know, talking as as an expert individual who's done
Speaker 1: research on these things over the years. He was a
Speaker 1: speaker and we ended up with seven hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: people roughly come into the town that weekend. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's a good festival. We're holding another one this year,
Speaker 1: and this year we have three individuals that you know
Speaker 1: well known in the bigfoot world. Jason Kenziata British Columbia.
Speaker 1: He does documentaries on Bigfoot and he's actually coming up
Speaker 1: and doing a you know, filming here in Maine and
Speaker 1: they're going to be it's going to be used in
Speaker 1: one of his documentaries. Then we have Steve Kuls Squatch Detective.
Speaker 1: He's got a podcast you know called Squatch Detective. He's
Speaker 1: coming up. He's a well known researcher out of New York.
Speaker 1: Mike familiar Aunt who is a researcher. He's been doing
Speaker 1: it since twenty ten when he had a sighting with
Speaker 1: you know, the creature growing its eyes at him. He
Speaker 1: wrote a book called In the Shadow of the Big
Speaker 1: Red Eye and did a you know, a documentary tal
Speaker 1: type movie about it. He's going to be there and
Speaker 1: he's one of our speakers as well. So you know,
Speaker 1: it should be a good festival this year. We're hoping,
Speaker 1: you know, to close in on that thousand people showing up.
Speaker 1: Mark We do kids' activities and you know, just like
Speaker 1: they do out in Whitehall, New York, where not emulating them,
Speaker 1: but we're doing our own thing and you know where
Speaker 1: here for education. I got town hall type meanings scheduled
Speaker 1: for this next year that we're hoping to do and
Speaker 1: we have outings every other weekend during the summer that
Speaker 1: we charge people nothing to go to and we take
Speaker 1: them out in the woods. And you know, our job
Speaker 1: is education and investigation, trying to document this stuff throughout
Speaker 1: the state of Maine, to give people an idea of
Speaker 1: what's out there and what we feel is good for
Speaker 1: them to do. As far as you know, I should
Speaker 1: they have an encounter to get away from one of
Speaker 1: these things if you know, there seems to be some
Speaker 1: kind of issue, But that's you know, that's where we are,
Speaker 1: and you know, I can come back on. I plan
Speaker 1: on coming back on and doing another episode uh here
Speaker 1: on the podcast and get it done to tell some
Speaker 1: more of the encounters that I've had over the years,
Speaker 1: and there's some interesting ones. I'll just drop a couple
Speaker 1: of tidbits, you know, rock clacking, seen it, heard it,
Speaker 1: spider crawl by these creatures, seen it, heard it. Sorry,
Speaker 1: crazy kind of stuff. So that'll be on a future episode.
Speaker 1: So tune back in and listen. To some more later on.
Speaker 5: Well that's it for tonight show. If you've had a
Speaker 5: big foot siding and would like to be a guest,
Speaker 5: please go to my bigfoot Siding dot com and let
Speaker 5: us know. Thanks for listening, have a great night.
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