Speaker 1: Kf I AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp
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Speaker 1: the iHeart Radio app. Hey, welcome home. I'm Dean Sharp
Speaker 1: the House Whisper. I design custom homes, I build custom homes,
Speaker 1: and I am your guide to better understand that place
Speaker 1: where you live. It is the weekend right before Christmas
Speaker 1: is a little it's a little weird. I think it
Speaker 1: always feels a little weird when Christmas lands in the
Speaker 1: middle of the week because what do you do? What
Speaker 1: do you do with those other days? You know? And
Speaker 1: everybody's saying, I know what you do with the other days.
Speaker 1: You just take them off and you just relax. I
Speaker 1: get it, I get it. But for those who don't
Speaker 1: have the ability to take them off, you don't get
Speaker 1: the long weekend. And I just like it when Christmas
Speaker 1: is attached to a weekend close a little closer. Wednesday
Speaker 1: is a little weird, That's all I'm saying. But it's Christmas,
Speaker 1: uh and Christmas is coming in just what Sunday Monday too.
Speaker 1: I had to count it out on my fingers that
Speaker 1: is so pitiful. It's not cute, it's pitiful. Uh So
Speaker 1: three days is that a? Is it three days or
Speaker 1: four days away? How do you say? It is? Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday.
Speaker 1: You don't count Christmas Day? Do you? You do? You
Speaker 1: don't count today, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, four days, four days away.
Speaker 1: Once you put your headphones on there, grab your microphone
Speaker 1: because I need help. Clearly, I can't even count.
Speaker 2: I can't even count in the distance.
Speaker 1: All right, y'all, listen, here is the thing. This weekend.
Speaker 1: It's been a few weeks since we've done this, and
Speaker 1: know just to clear everything, clear the decks for the
Speaker 1: end of twenty twenty four. This weekend, it's an all
Speaker 1: calls weekend. That means that you have to sit here
Speaker 1: and listen to me just jabber on about things unless
Speaker 1: you call me. And right now, our phone lines are open.
Speaker 1: A producer, Matt is standing by ready to take your call.
Speaker 1: And we have zero calls because I just asked for them, basically,
Speaker 1: so I'm asking it's time to call if you've thought,
Speaker 1: you know what, I really have wanted to call in,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's just the lines are too busy.
Speaker 1: Or you know, Dean's only taking a few, so I
Speaker 1: don't think I'll get through. Now's your chance? Now is
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Speaker 1: whatever the case. Maybe give me a call the number
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Speaker 1: to take your call. Also ready, well, actually he's already going.
Speaker 1: Sam Zia on the board this morning. Good morning, Sam,
Speaker 1: Hello Dean. How you doing. I'm good, I'm good, I'm here,
Speaker 1: I'm ready, I'm ready for calls. I love off Paul's weekend.
Speaker 1: So does our live studio audience. Nor not to lie, Well,
Speaker 1: they're there. Eileen Gonzalez at the news desk, Good morning, Eileen,
Speaker 1: Good morning sunshine.
Speaker 3: How's it going?
Speaker 1: Uh? It cracks me up every time. I am so
Speaker 1: not feeling the way you describe that. It's just have
Speaker 1: some more coffee you'll feel better. I will, I will.
Speaker 1: How are you doing today?
Speaker 4: Good?
Speaker 3: I'm actually thinking I should start drinking coffee again this morning,
Speaker 3: though A little tired too.
Speaker 1: No tea, you're not doing herbal herbal tea. It's just
Speaker 1: it just doesn't have that same kick. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I love herbal tea, but you know what, it's just
Speaker 1: it's not going to get it done. Are you all
Speaker 1: ready for Christmas? Are we good?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: I'm actually I don't really do Christmas. I've decided I'm
Speaker 3: going to work. So I picked up some shifts for
Speaker 3: people that do you know, want the day off they
Speaker 3: have family.
Speaker 1: See, that's doing Christmas. That's just giving kindness. Just that's great,
Speaker 1: my giving spirit. I'm giving my time. There you go.
Speaker 1: There you go. Well, you're you're allowing some people to
Speaker 1: to take the time they need to get some Christmas
Speaker 1: family stuff done. That's awesome. ILK. All right, Well, sitting
Speaker 1: across the table from me, there she is. You just
Speaker 1: jumped in here at the last minute, like you do.
Speaker 1: You like to do that on Saturday mornings. You leave me.
Speaker 1: I'm like down to the wire. I'm looking around, like
Speaker 1: where is she? Where ISHU is she coming out? Is
Speaker 1: you know? And then voop there you are. Surprise, my
Speaker 1: better half, my design partner, the co owner co founder
Speaker 1: of House whisper and my best buddy, as you know
Speaker 1: in planet Earth, Tina is here. Welcome home. How you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm good, Yeah, yeah, I'm feeling a little. It's good.
Speaker 2: Now here's another interesting fact about the holidays. Okay, so
Speaker 2: Hanka starts the day after Christmas. Yeah, which is it's
Speaker 2: not usually so so attached to Christmas, is it?
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it flows, it flows, well, honkkah.
Speaker 1: You know, the Jewish calendar is lunar, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's lunar. And so instead of the you know, thirty
Speaker 1: thirty one day cycle bumba bumba bump, the Jewish calendar
Speaker 1: is a lunar calendar. And so after a number of years,
Speaker 1: in fact, I think, if I'm not mistaken, every seven
Speaker 1: years the Jewish ceremonial calendar, you actually add a month,
Speaker 1: a short month, to like make up the difference for
Speaker 1: the for the day, you know, in order to even
Speaker 1: it up again. Anyway. Yeah, so that's why it shifts
Speaker 1: all over the place. It's early, it's late, it's right on,
Speaker 1: you know, it shares time whatever the case mean. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's day after this year. Wow. See that would be
Speaker 1: if you celebrate both in your household. That is awesome.
Speaker 1: Then you're like Christmas is the beginning of like a
Speaker 1: like a what a nine nine day? You know it's
Speaker 1: Christmas plus eight days? Oh, that's great bonus? Or or
Speaker 1: do your parents hold back and instead of just dumping
Speaker 1: all of your presence do they say, oh, you know, sad?
Speaker 1: That would be that would be they could go either way,
Speaker 1: that would be no good. Don't do their parents? Don't
Speaker 1: do the eight day presenting. Some parents don't do that. Well,
Speaker 1: why celebrate Hana could not do that because that's a
Speaker 1: rip off. People are being ripped off. All right, we'll
Speaker 1: let it go. I'm letting it go. Hey, we got
Speaker 1: some calls on the board. Guess what it means. We've
Speaker 1: got a show today again. It's an all calls weekend.
Speaker 1: The number to reach me eight three three to ask
Speaker 1: Dean eight three to three the numeral to ask Dean.
Speaker 1: We will get to your calls. Dean Sharp the house whisper. Hey,
Speaker 1: good Saturday morning to you. And if you're listening to
Speaker 1: the podcast, good whatever time, end day it is that
Speaker 1: you are listening. Now, we are doing an all calls
Speaker 1: show today today and tomorrow both just an all calls weekend.
Speaker 1: It's time, it's we're a little overdue for it. And
Speaker 1: so here we are, right before Christmas. Your Christmas present
Speaker 1: for those of you who have been wanting to call
Speaker 1: in and make it on to the air. Anything you
Speaker 1: want to talk about today, home design, construction, DIY, you
Speaker 1: name it, you set the agenda, anything that's got you
Speaker 1: scratching your head about your home. I'm ready, I am ready.
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Speaker 1: do it without any further Ado. Let's talk to Row. Hey, Row,
Speaker 1: welcome home.
Speaker 6: Hi.
Speaker 4: I heard you talking to Mark Thompson the other day
Speaker 4: about his shower and how you have to have a
Speaker 4: certain amount of water in the shower in the pea trap.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't smell.
Speaker 4: Yes, how often should you rend water so that you
Speaker 4: don't have that problem?
Speaker 1: And how much water? Okay? So all right, So let
Speaker 1: me just set the stage for everybody else who you know,
Speaker 1: may not have heard that conversation with Mark Thompson. So
Speaker 1: Mark was talking about the fact that he has one
Speaker 1: bathroom in his home, the guest bathroom, and the sink
Speaker 1: gets used and the toilet gets used, but the shower
Speaker 1: hardly ever gets used. And they started developing this weird
Speaker 1: smell in the bathroom kind of sounded like a smelled
Speaker 1: like a sewer issue. And so I was explaining to
Speaker 1: Mark that every drain in your home has that squirrely
Speaker 1: little pipe underneath it. Whether you can see it or not.
Speaker 1: You can totally see these underneath the sink, because the
Speaker 1: sink's usually sitting in a cabinet. You look underneath and
Speaker 1: it's where the drain goes down and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden it curves up and goes up again before it
Speaker 1: goes down the rest of the way and into the
Speaker 1: wall and out of the house. That squirrely little piece,
Speaker 1: which really should be called an s trap because it's
Speaker 1: sort of s shaped. Somebody, I don't know whenever whoever,
Speaker 1: was laying on their side apparently and decided to call
Speaker 1: it a pe trap. It's not pea like in the
Speaker 1: bathroom urine. It's they just thought it looked like the
Speaker 1: letter P, although it lays on its side, so I
Speaker 1: don't anyway. The pea trap is it has one job.
Speaker 1: As one job, and people have often asked, why do
Speaker 1: we have to have that squirrely pipe attached to the
Speaker 1: bottom of our sink drain, and that is very simply this.
Speaker 1: The pea trap holds the last little bit of water
Speaker 1: that goes down the sink, last little bit, Okay, it
Speaker 1: holds it. And as a result of holding it in
Speaker 1: that lower pipe, right in that little droop of the pipe,
Speaker 1: that water becomes a plug that stops sewer gases from
Speaker 1: coming up from the main sewer system from the city,
Speaker 1: from the street. The whole thing keeps those gases from
Speaker 1: coming up through out of the sink drain and smelling
Speaker 1: up the bathroom in that way, or whatever room we're in.
Speaker 1: That's the job of the pea trap. But of course
Speaker 1: a sink, and by the way, every drain, every drain,
Speaker 1: the toilet has one built into it. Okay, the sink
Speaker 1: you can see. The shower, it's underneath the shower drain
Speaker 1: where you can't see. But they all have them, all
Speaker 1: of them. And so the thing is, water evaporates, right,
Speaker 1: So if you haven't used something like the tub or
Speaker 1: the shower or the sink in a particular room, you
Speaker 1: haven't used it very much or it's been you know, however,
Speaker 1: many days, especially during the summer, right when it's warm
Speaker 1: and water is evaporating faster than in cold weather, then
Speaker 1: that water in the pea trap can start to evaporate,
Speaker 1: and as soon as it gets to a certain level
Speaker 1: it's no longer high enough to block out the sewer gases.
Speaker 1: The gases will get through it, and as a result,
Speaker 1: you get that smell. This is why a home that
Speaker 1: is like up for sale that the cellar has already
Speaker 1: moved out of so nobody's living there. Every good realtor
Speaker 1: knows this that they need to get in there before
Speaker 1: an open house and flush toilets and run a little
Speaker 1: water and sinks and showers and tubs. Otherwise all that
Speaker 1: evaporation's going to leave the home smelling a little weird.
Speaker 1: Everybody I think I know has walked into a house
Speaker 1: that smells an empty house that smells a little weird.
Speaker 1: That's usually why it smells weird. So to set that
Speaker 1: stage now, wrote, it's really really simple. Pea trap is
Speaker 1: not very big at all. I mean it's like a
Speaker 1: cup a cup and a half of water at the most,
Speaker 1: even on a big drain, maybe two cups of water
Speaker 1: on a big drain. So how much do you have
Speaker 1: to run it hardly at all. You just need to
Speaker 1: turn it on for a couple of three seconds and
Speaker 1: turn it back off and you're good to go. And
Speaker 1: as far as how often, you know, you got me
Speaker 1: on that one, because it really has to do with
Speaker 1: how warm the house is, how warm the weather is,
Speaker 1: and so on. But you know what, once twice a
Speaker 1: week is plenty to keep the water in the trap, right,
Speaker 1: But on a really warm day, if it's really warm
Speaker 1: in the house, you could lose you know, a quarter
Speaker 1: inch of water over a twenty four or forty eight
Speaker 1: hour period. So you know what, let's say just a
Speaker 1: couple of times a week. Mark's issue, though, just to
Speaker 1: cap it off, was that it had gone long long
Speaker 1: enough that you know, some bacterias had kind of taken
Speaker 1: hold on the lining of the sewer line. So even
Speaker 1: though come in after the fact and start running the water,
Speaker 1: he was still getting the smell. And the reason is
Speaker 1: that those bacterias had just kind of gotten a little
Speaker 1: out of control. And to that, what I told him was,
Speaker 1: you get yourself some enzymatic cleaner, some drain clean enzymes.
Speaker 1: Enzymes are the key enzymes, are these powerful little molecular
Speaker 1: components that break down organic organic compounds so they can
Speaker 1: easily be be broken down and disposed of by friendly bacteria.
Speaker 1: And uh, the one that I recommend the most, which
Speaker 1: you can find at places like Home Depot or Low's
Speaker 1: or the plumbing supply store the hardware store, is called
Speaker 1: Green Gobbler. Green Gobbler is just a brand, but really
Speaker 1: great brand. And if you I recommend that folks, you know,
Speaker 1: get some and you know, send it down their drains
Speaker 1: every couple of time, you know, maybe twice a year,
Speaker 1: just to clear out the guck that lines the drains
Speaker 1: and keep your drains wide open and clear. So anyway,
Speaker 1: that's it, that's the story. Row a couple of times
Speaker 1: a week and it only takes you know, just you know,
Speaker 1: turn it on for five seconds and turn it back
Speaker 1: off and you have reset. The peach Trap wrote, thank
Speaker 1: you for your question. Great call. Great call to start
Speaker 1: us off with we got more when we return your
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Speaker 1: the iHeart Radio app. It looks to me like the
Speaker 1: sun is beginning to brighten the sky here on this
Speaker 1: early Saturday morning, the final weekend before Christmas twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: I am here with you as always to talk about
Speaker 1: your home, anything that's got you worked up, scratching your head,
Speaker 1: curious about what's going on with your home. It's an
Speaker 1: all calls weekend. I have no agenda except to sit
Speaker 1: here and help you out with your calls. So the
Speaker 1: number to reach me eight three three two. Ask Dean
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Speaker 1: for you. Use for Matt standing by. He'll answer your call,
Speaker 1: tell you everything you need to know. Poppy into the queue,
Speaker 1: and then you and I we can figure it out.
Speaker 1: We'll figure it out together, I promise. All right, let's
Speaker 1: get back to the phone. Let's talk to Jim. Hey, Jim,
Speaker 1: welcome home.
Speaker 7: Hello, Hello Dean, Hey, this is Jim.
Speaker 5: Hey.
Speaker 7: Well, my question is I have a a new plywood
Speaker 7: deck that I put out, that's I just had laid
Speaker 7: out on my bedroom. They put an ac X plywood
Speaker 7: on it. And before the people before when I moved in,
Speaker 7: had a they did a torch down on it, and
Speaker 7: I was wondering if there's something it's not covered. There's
Speaker 7: no cover on it. It's just a balcony that overlooks
Speaker 7: my pool out of my bedroom. And I just need
Speaker 7: to know what I can put on that that would
Speaker 7: would be a good seiler for that, you know, you
Speaker 7: could walk on. I know, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 7: want to use something like a like the stuff they
Speaker 7: put on garages, floors and stuff like that. Do I
Speaker 7: want something like that or something to seal it so
Speaker 7: that I can, you know, sort of last out there.
Speaker 1: Okay, So, so so this is a new deck that
Speaker 1: was just built.
Speaker 7: It's just to replace the other one had just got rotten,
Speaker 7: had gotten rotten. So it's it's yeah, it's just a
Speaker 7: plywood deck right now. Yeah, I just need something to
Speaker 7: note what to put on top of that.
Speaker 1: Okay, and what's directly underneath it. I mean, the the
Speaker 1: the reason I'm asking, I just want to give you
Speaker 1: the full orbed answer to your question is, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the easiest ways of covering a you know,
Speaker 1: a deck is to not water proof it per se,
Speaker 1: but to cover it in like decking boards, right, planks.
Speaker 1: But that's why to do that, we wouldn't use plywood
Speaker 1: on top of it. We would just use open decking planks.
Speaker 1: We would treat the supporting joysts underneath that are holding
Speaker 1: up the deck and uh and board it on the top.
Speaker 1: That way, water doesn't have to be shed off of it.
Speaker 1: It'll just run through the deck boards to what's underneath.
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm asking you what's underneath. Normally when
Speaker 1: we do a waterproof deck, it's because what's directly underneath,
Speaker 1: you know, we want coverage so that rain water doesn't
Speaker 1: you know, so we can be out there and rain
Speaker 1: doesn't get through. Is that's what's going on?
Speaker 7: Yeah, well that was Yeah, it's actually it's overlooking. It's
Speaker 7: on top of my service ports, you know, so I
Speaker 7: have the wash and dryer and it's from the house
Speaker 7: underneath there, so it needs to be you know, water
Speaker 7: tight sealed.
Speaker 1: Right right, gotcha? All right? So, uh so options, you
Speaker 1: got a lot of options. One is the one option
Speaker 1: you don't have though, is to just put some sealer
Speaker 1: on that plywood, okay, because that's not going to hold up.
Speaker 1: It won't hold up, so we've got to cover that up.
Speaker 1: In the past, people have hot mopped, right tar and asphalt.
Speaker 1: You don't need to do that anymore. If if you're
Speaker 1: interested in making a decorative surface out there on the deck,
Speaker 1: in other words, if we're going to put tile or
Speaker 1: stone or something like that, then you would use a
Speaker 1: brush on membrane or a PVC roll out membrane, or
Speaker 1: a roofing membrane that is designed not to be attractive
Speaker 1: but to become that waterproof membrane. So you could use
Speaker 1: a regular roofing membrane that seals at the seams. You
Speaker 1: could use a well, you could hot mop, but like
Speaker 1: I said, we don't do that much anymore. There are
Speaker 1: brush on materials like redguard, which you can pick up.
Speaker 1: It's not cheap, but again they work really really well.
Speaker 1: Red Guard materials they roll on and you just put
Speaker 1: on several layers of it, so you get a thick
Speaker 1: mill rubberized coating finish on top of that plywood. All
Speaker 1: of these things, though, are things that you would then
Speaker 1: proceed to cover with your actual, you know, attractive esthetic
Speaker 1: material on top. If that's not the option, then you
Speaker 1: could have a decking company come out and do a
Speaker 1: fiberglass coating for that. And the fiberglass coating in itself
Speaker 1: is designed to have its own attractiveness. Now, attractiveness is
Speaker 1: a question that you know, it's relative, right, because some
Speaker 1: people are like, I hate the way those fiberglass decks
Speaker 1: look well. But the point is that is a situation
Speaker 1: where the decking material itself has its own finish to it,
Speaker 1: and there are some companies out there that do some
Speaker 1: amazing stuff. It isn't just the rough, textured, beige colored material,
Speaker 1: which is the pretty much the least expensive way to go.
Speaker 1: They can do simulated stone, they can do simulated plank
Speaker 1: and so on. So basically, I'm breaking it down into
Speaker 1: two categories. You're either a going to go in that
Speaker 1: direction where the waterproof membrane is in and of itself,
Speaker 1: also the decorative finish has it built into it, or
Speaker 1: you're going to lay down any number of efficient waterproof membranes,
Speaker 1: be it a roofing membrane or roll on membrane like
Speaker 1: the red Guard, but those you're gonna end up covering
Speaker 1: up with a finished material tile, wood, stone, what have you.
Speaker 7: Okay, all right, thank you very much, Tee.
Speaker 1: And make sure Jim make sure that before any of
Speaker 1: that happens, make sure that that deck is properly pitched,
Speaker 1: because especially if you've got you know, space underneath it
Speaker 1: that has to stay dry. It's not just about hopefully
Speaker 1: they rebuilt the deck with pitch to it. That deck
Speaker 1: should be shedding water off to its edge at least
Speaker 1: an eighth of an inch per foot of drop, just
Speaker 1: like a driveway or so on. Quarter inch would be better,
Speaker 1: but at least an eighth of an inch per foot,
Speaker 1: so that water will shed off and not pool on
Speaker 1: that decking surface. Because if we're inviting the water to
Speaker 1: stay put, then, you know, amazingly enough, any kind of
Speaker 1: decking membrane can be defeated ultimately by water that is
Speaker 1: hanging around too long there, you know, water that hangs
Speaker 1: around on a flat surface. You know, it's like a
Speaker 1: hoodlum hanging around in the neighborhood. Something bad is gonna happen.
Speaker 1: You just know it. You just know it. That's why
Speaker 1: you alert all your neighbors on next door, which I
Speaker 1: think is all that app is good for anymore. I literally,
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be a neighborly thing, and now
Speaker 1: it's just like there's a suspicious guy over at the corner. Beware,
Speaker 1: all right, y'all. When we come back more of your calls.
Speaker 1: It's an all calls weekend right here on Home with
Speaker 1: Dean Sharp, the House Whisper. Oh, can if I Dean Sharp,
Speaker 1: the House Whisper. Welcome home. Do you have your warm
Speaker 1: beverage with you? It's time. Dina just brought in some
Speaker 1: coffee Handsley. Oh, that's good, that is good. Thanks for
Speaker 1: joining us on the program today, Dean Sharp, the House
Speaker 1: Whisper with you. It is an all calls weekend. We
Speaker 1: are just going to the phones. You're setting the agenda today.
Speaker 1: The number to reach me eight three three two. Ask
Speaker 1: Dean eight three to three. The numeral to ask Dean.
Speaker 1: All right, back to the phones. Let me talk to Larry. Hey, Larry,
Speaker 1: welcome home.
Speaker 5: Hi. How are you Dean?
Speaker 1: I am well, sir. How are you doing?
Speaker 5: I mean to one foot in the grave.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 5: I listen to you every week. Yes, and I'm amazed
Speaker 5: at your knowledge about homes and everything about a home.
Speaker 5: I have to say that. But I was listening a
Speaker 5: little while ago today and I think I heard a mistake.
Speaker 5: And it isn't about a home. It's about the Hanikah.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's fine. That's had me worried. There first, Okay,
Speaker 1: what did I do? What did what did I? What
Speaker 1: did I do?
Speaker 5: You said, Hanikah begins the day after Christmas? And actually
Speaker 5: Hanika begins the same day as Christmas because our holidays,
Speaker 5: and I'm Jewish, of course, our holidays begin at sundown.
Speaker 5: We light the candles on the twenty fifth, that's.
Speaker 1: The first Okay, yeah, okay, So so two things. Number One,
Speaker 1: I did know that. I knew that, I just hadn't
Speaker 1: really thought it through. Yes, because this goes all the
Speaker 1: way back to Jennie All. This goes all the way
Speaker 1: back to the creation story. Right. It was evening and
Speaker 1: morning the first day, So in Jewish tradition, the day
Speaker 1: starts at sunset. So that would make sense if the
Speaker 1: calendar says the first day of Honikah is is the
Speaker 1: is the twenty six, That means that it starts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but in my defense, it's totally Tina's fault because I didn't. No,
Speaker 1: it's true, Get on your mic. What'd you just fess up?
Speaker 1: It's totally Tina's fault because, uh, because I didn't even
Speaker 1: know when Honkah started this year. Well, you're the one
Speaker 1: who told me, okay.
Speaker 8: Bill handle no, no, no, not going to do that,
Speaker 8: all right, Larry Hay, that was very kind.
Speaker 1: Did you actually have a question about your home? You
Speaker 1: just called me to correct me.
Speaker 5: No, I live in a manufactured home, so I don't
Speaker 5: have a question. But I just thought i'd interact a little.
Speaker 1: Oh you're awesome. You are awesome. Well, happy Honica to
Speaker 1: you in this coming week. I hope it is a
Speaker 1: bright and lovely holiday season for you, Larry, and thank you.
Speaker 1: Thank you for calling and correcting us. There it is,
Speaker 1: Honkah begins Chris. It's not Chris. I was about to
Speaker 1: say Christmas Eve, Christmas evening. Yes, Christmas Eve, sundown on Christmas.
Speaker 1: Honicah begins. There it is, Uh, do I have time?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna I'm gonna start, at least
Speaker 1: start a call before we go to break Ronan. Welcome home.
Speaker 6: Thank you, sir, Thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 1: You're welcome. How can I help?
Speaker 6: Well, we had the house bolters underneath the house and
Speaker 6: they told us that the shower in our boys room
Speaker 6: was leaking. They could see that with the water damages.
Speaker 6: So we brought in a team and they did the
Speaker 6: demo on the shower pan. The problem is that the
Speaker 6: whole bathroom. The house is built probably in the late twenties,
Speaker 6: early thirties, and the whole bathroom has the same beautiful
Speaker 6: tile that I want to keep it. You know, it's
Speaker 6: not just in the shower. It's and then the rest
Speaker 6: of the bathroom and the floor and the walls and
Speaker 6: all that stuff. So I was hoping to try to
Speaker 6: save the tile in the shower, and I had them
Speaker 6: take off the first couple of feet so they can
Speaker 6: do the hot mop and you know, and rebuild the
Speaker 6: base and do the hot mop, and then we'll just
Speaker 6: do a different tile, just a black tile on the
Speaker 6: floor because there's some black powerty in the shower. But
Speaker 6: my buddy had me very worried that I'm making a
Speaker 6: mistake and the water can still potentially get inside, you know,
Speaker 6: if it's a mistake.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think it's a mistake. What you're doing.
Speaker 1: You just have to make sure that the people who
Speaker 1: are doing the work know exactly what they're doing. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a mistake at all, because I totally
Speaker 1: get you. I mean, you got a century home. You
Speaker 1: want to preserve beautiful bathroom, but you've got to replace
Speaker 1: the shower pan right. And so the way to do
Speaker 1: that is the shower pan has to go. That has
Speaker 1: to be redone. And then you know, it sounds like
Speaker 1: you've done it exactly right. Go a couple of feet
Speaker 1: up the wall, remove that tile, make a clean break
Speaker 1: and uh. And then it's the key is simply this,
Speaker 1: the wall itself, the wall tile has got you know,
Speaker 1: has got you know, well, in a century home, it's
Speaker 1: got roofing paper behind it. Basically, uh, that is shutting
Speaker 1: down water if that has not been a source of
Speaker 1: leaking or any issues like that. Then carefully laying your
Speaker 1: your new hot mop, shower pan, or whatever material you
Speaker 1: decide to use under you know, tucking it up underneath
Speaker 1: that upper course of roofing paper, and then just sealing
Speaker 1: the heck out of it, uh and fixing any potential
Speaker 1: cracks and or tears that occurred in the roofing paper
Speaker 1: in the whole process. In other words, if you can
Speaker 1: get that tucked up underneath so that the overlap is
Speaker 1: uh is solid, then you should be good to go.
Speaker 1: You really should be good to go. And and here's
Speaker 1: the here's the thing. You don't have to wait until
Speaker 1: you retile to find out if you've done it right,
Speaker 1: and that's really really important for you to know. Again,
Speaker 1: this is a situation where, uh, you know, the tile
Speaker 1: was never the thing that was waterproofing the shower. It
Speaker 1: was simply, you know, the first line of defense. But
Speaker 1: water gets behind tile, water gets into the grout lines,
Speaker 1: and it gets into the thin set the mortar behind
Speaker 1: the tile. Ultimately, the thing that's waterproofing that shower is
Speaker 1: that paper, is that roofing paper that's running up the walls.
Speaker 1: So once the shower, the new shower pan has been
Speaker 1: repaired and put in before the new tile goes in, Okay,
Speaker 1: before any tile goes in, you can run the water
Speaker 1: in that shower and run it at length. Let water
Speaker 1: just directly hit that roofing paper and the tie in
Speaker 1: and the new hot mop or whatever it is that
Speaker 1: you're doing there. Let it run. Get somebody underneath the
Speaker 1: house to make sure that there are no leaks, no
Speaker 1: sign whatsoever. You could run it for an hour or
Speaker 1: two and simply let the water run to make sure
Speaker 1: that the tie in has no leaks in it. And
Speaker 1: if you don't see any water intrusion after that period
Speaker 1: of time, then you've got the green light to go
Speaker 1: ahead and put the mortar and finish tiling up that job.
Speaker 6: That's a great idea. I did never want to have
Speaker 6: thought of that, and I feel so much better.
Speaker 1: Yes, there you go. Yeah, yeah, thank you. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't have to go into it blind, just to go
Speaker 1: ahead and test it once you're at the membrane stage,
Speaker 1: because the membrane is the thing that's doing the work anyway,
Speaker 1: and that way, if you get a leak, you can
Speaker 1: deal with it right then and there not be you know,
Speaker 1: worried about it. But yeah, we do that kind of
Speaker 1: thing all the time. Just FYI when especially when it
Speaker 1: comes to a century home restoration and repair. So I
Speaker 1: understand your friend's concerns, totally understand it. But it can
Speaker 1: be done right, It can be done properly, and it
Speaker 1: shouldn't be a problem down the road. Ronan, thanks for
Speaker 1: your question and for your call. Great, great question, and
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