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<v Speaker 1>Baby, I'm a gangsteratu it takes a little tangle. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't mess with me. Mess with me, baby, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>GANGSTERA tou ouch baby, You're game. Statue for good warning.

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<v Speaker 2>This podcast is designed to take you outside of your

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<v Speaker 2>comfort zone and make you question reality. Listener Discretion is

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<v Speaker 2>a vibe.

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<v Speaker 3>Talkwardly fellas.

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<v Speaker 2>This ain't my first time at the rodeos. Hello, and

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back to the fucking show. So got a little

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<v Speaker 2>something something for us today. You're gonna love it, I promise.

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<v Speaker 2>But before we just jump right into the topic and everything,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we got to handle a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>business first. And despite how it looks, it's actually a

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<v Speaker 2>really rainy day today. I don't know why it looks

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<v Speaker 2>like it's a bright sunny don't The backlighting is deceiving

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<v Speaker 2>because it is a rainy, cold and gloomy day and

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<v Speaker 2>it's perfect for the topic that we have for today.

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<v Speaker 2>Really sets the mood, gets things going. But I have

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<v Speaker 2>a new shout out and I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned this before, but Donna Joe, I did get your email.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I will check it out. Recommended a series for me,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the one that I really want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about for just the second is from j last name

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<v Speaker 2>initial G. So it's entitled longtime listener, first time caller,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not going to read all of it, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's definitely worth noting here for a shout out. He

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<v Speaker 2>said some extraordinarily kind and supportive things, and then at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the email, he said he's having a

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<v Speaker 2>hard time hanging with uh. Here's a quote the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that feature science fiction commentaries from experiencers. These folks are

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<v Speaker 2>complete nutjobs, Julia. They need to be fitted for a

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<v Speaker 2>straight jacket and put in a padded room. I am

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<v Speaker 2>an engineer, and there's only so much disbelief I can suspend.

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<v Speaker 2>Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. In any event, I enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>listening to you and always will. I'll just skip past

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<v Speaker 2>the retards telling me the lizard people are eating babies

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<v Speaker 2>with barbecue sauce on a flying saucer, and then he says,

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<v Speaker 2>keep being you. Much love from Jay. Now I realize

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<v Speaker 2>that one person does not represent the collective, but since

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<v Speaker 2>it was such a thoughtful email and he is a

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<v Speaker 2>longtime listener, I want to address the collective just in case.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you yes, you are on board with what Jay

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<v Speaker 2>is saying about the SRA survivor testimonies. Listen, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>advertise for these people. I think you know that by now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't actually advertise for anyone. I never pick a team.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't subscribe to really any genre. I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle on a lot of topics. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I'm subscribed to God's team. That is one

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<v Speaker 2>thing that I will If I'm going to subscribe to something,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be that. And you know that. But as

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<v Speaker 2>far as the SRA survivors, I want to address the skepticism.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've said this before in the past, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>definitely worth repeating. Sometimes, as can spearcy theorists, our minds

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<v Speaker 2>can be so open that our brains fall out. And

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<v Speaker 2>I have made this little disclaimer on the SRA testimonies

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<v Speaker 2>in the past. Do they put this stuff out there

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<v Speaker 2>they being CIA, whoever is in charge of releasing the

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<v Speaker 2>SRIA survivors upon us. Do they manufacture this stuff and

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<v Speaker 2>put it out there to make us look like assholes

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<v Speaker 2>for believing it? Because sometimes it's so grand and so extraordinary,

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<v Speaker 2>As Jay was saying in the email, that in order

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<v Speaker 2>to believe it, you've got to be a certain kind

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<v Speaker 2>of individual. So do they put the and then at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, do they put certain SRA survivors quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote out there with their testimonies to make the ones

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<v Speaker 2>who actually lived it and actually suffered and actually went

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<v Speaker 2>through this stuff, you won't believe them when they come

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<v Speaker 2>out because there's been so many that have taken trips

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<v Speaker 2>to Mars and you know, had Golden Corral with the

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<v Speaker 2>Pleadians that you just can't hear one more SRA survivor.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we take a break from SRA survivors for a while. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>I can do that for you, not saying we're giving

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<v Speaker 2>up on this mission, but we can take an intermission.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing. If we don't know what's out there,

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<v Speaker 2>we can never prepare ourselves for attack. There are SRA

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<v Speaker 2>survivors out there predicting future events. There are SRA survivors

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<v Speaker 2>out there that I find credible and legitimate, and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to know all the things that they went through.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there are ones that are having Golden Corral

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<v Speaker 2>with the Blue Aveals, and yeah, it's hard for me

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<v Speaker 2>to get on board with the ones that are having

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<v Speaker 2>Golden Corral with the Blue Aveals. Because I don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>in a lot of that stuff. And at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder, and I think to myself, could it be

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<v Speaker 2>just hear me out, could it be what these people

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<v Speaker 2>went through is so fantastical, it's too fantastical to be believed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet at the same time, could actually be happening.

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<v Speaker 1>There?

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<v Speaker 4>There is I just.

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<v Speaker 2>I straddle the fence so hard sometimes with the SRA survivors.

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<v Speaker 2>And like I said, it's not like I choose a team.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like I advertise for these people or tell

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<v Speaker 2>you everything that they say has to be one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent legitimately the truth. But we need to know what's

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<v Speaker 2>out there. We need to know what people are listening to,

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<v Speaker 2>and we need to find the ones who are genuine

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<v Speaker 2>and authentic. And I think I've come across a few

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<v Speaker 2>that I would say are genuine and authentic. Fiona Barnett

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<v Speaker 2>would be one that just I cried like a baby

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<v Speaker 2>after I heard you know, it was like a little documentary.

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<v Speaker 2>If you haven't watched it, please make your way over

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<v Speaker 2>to Room two three seven and subscribe to the Patreon

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<v Speaker 2>Get in there to room two seven and watch the

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<v Speaker 2>Fiona Barnett. She's talking about Nicole Kidman. She's talking about

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<v Speaker 2>all kinds of shit breaking loose in Australia, and I

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<v Speaker 2>would say that I believe her. I find her to

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<v Speaker 2>be genuine. And then there are and you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of the one with the blue lotus meringa

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<v Speaker 2>taint rub. I'm not gonna lie. I find her credible.

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<v Speaker 2>After listening to the whole story, giving it a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of time, I mold it over. I'm gonna say

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<v Speaker 2>sixty percent authentic with that one, maybe even seventy percent

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<v Speaker 2>authentic with that one. I do worry and wonder a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit because she was into like acting and modeling

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. If she's not just somebody they've

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<v Speaker 2>rolled out there with like a fake story, And you

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<v Speaker 2>should always leave room for something like that to be true.

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<v Speaker 2>But sometimes when I go into listening to an SRA

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<v Speaker 2>survivor's testimony, it's like the first time I watched The

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<v Speaker 2>Blair Witch Project or The Fourth Kind or any like

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<v Speaker 2>found footage movie where you get to the end and

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<v Speaker 2>you're wondering if that was true, and then you find

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<v Speaker 2>out that it was all fake, and you're like, damn,

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<v Speaker 2>that was so convincing. Wow, I really thought that was real,

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<v Speaker 2>and here it is just a bullshit story. I watched

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<v Speaker 2>somebody on Facebook totally tricked me into watching a mockumentary,

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<v Speaker 2>said it was real, all this stuff actually happened. Ya

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<v Speaker 2>da da da da da. It was the craziest thing

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<v Speaker 2>she'd ever seen. I watched it, got almost all the

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<v Speaker 2>way to the end before I realized it's a mockumentary.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fake. It's like watching you know, a ghost paranormal

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<v Speaker 2>ghost hunting shows like ghost Adventures, and you know whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>it's staged, it's scripted, it's it's a production. And then

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes the opposite is true. Like you ever watch a

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<v Speaker 2>Marvel movie knowing that it's completely fantasy. I used to

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<v Speaker 2>be really into Marvel. I still I'm kind of actually

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<v Speaker 2>getting back into it a little bit. I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sad but true guilty pleasure love Marvel stuff, but knowing

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<v Speaker 2>it's fantasy watching it and then getting to the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the movie and then looking at your friend or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever and going, that's all based on true shit. Super

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<v Speaker 2>Soldier program, the one of the Iron Man movies. It's

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<v Speaker 2>all about like terrorist attack and Middle East stuff, and like, hello,

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<v Speaker 2>that's clear. It's all based on they got an Operation

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<v Speaker 2>paper Clip reference in one of them. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was Captain America, the new spinoff shows like WandaVision and Loki.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sure it's strictly fantasy, but somewhere in the back

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<v Speaker 2>of your mind you gotta know that it's based on reality,

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<v Speaker 2>because they do fuck with our timelines. In my honest opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>they figured it out a long time ago. They know

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<v Speaker 2>how to manipulate shit, quantum physics and ant Man and

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<v Speaker 2>all that shit. It's like, there are some movies you watch,

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<v Speaker 2>like Blair Witch and you're thinking it's real, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you get to the end and you're like, ah, fuh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know fourth kind like, oh, it's fake. And then

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<v Speaker 2>there are movies you know are fantasy, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>get to the end and you're wondering, Hello, that's got

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<v Speaker 2>to be based on some true shit because they put

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<v Speaker 2>Project paper Clip references and all this stuff like the

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<v Speaker 2>Red Goal and all that crap. That's that's based on

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<v Speaker 2>real Nazi mysticism and stuff like that, The Tessa Act

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<v Speaker 2>and all that shit. What Hitler was looking for in

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<v Speaker 2>Antarctica's that's it's like a fantasy movie, but it's a

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<v Speaker 2>true story. Now when I go and listen to these

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<v Speaker 2>sorry survivors, sometimes I wonder if it's not an actress

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<v Speaker 2>telling a true story. It's like a it's a fake person,

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<v Speaker 2>but the story is true. It's like they've floated this

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<v Speaker 2>person out there, like til Swan. She looks really good,

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<v Speaker 2>she was immodeling. She's selling blue lotus, marenga tank rub

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<v Speaker 2>now and very attractive. Maybe she herself as a person

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<v Speaker 2>didn't go through this, but maybe she's like playing a

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<v Speaker 2>character and this story is true. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>leave a little bit of skepticism and everything now. The

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<v Speaker 2>ones that are having Golden Corral with the blue veals,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that most of that stuff could be completely

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<v Speaker 2>staged and used as a tactic to get you to

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<v Speaker 2>question and also disbelieve anyone who would come forward as

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<v Speaker 2>an srace arrivor. But deep down, you know and I

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<v Speaker 2>know that this stuff goes on, and this stuff is real.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether they have actresses just telling stories or not, we

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<v Speaker 2>know that this stuff goes on. We know that Satanic

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<v Speaker 2>ritual abuse is one. We know that the pedophilic elite

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<v Speaker 2>are just marinated in this stuff. But that's enough of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to say I'm addressing the collective based

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<v Speaker 2>off of one person's a pension, but it could be

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<v Speaker 2>the opinion of many. So I wanted to address the

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<v Speaker 2>skepticism and everything out there. I'm not an asshole, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. A lot of this stuff could be

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<v Speaker 2>completely derived, and some of it, I'm sorry to tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>is real. Whether it sounds absolutely ridiculous or not. I

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<v Speaker 2>tend to think some of this stuff is real. Where

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<v Speaker 2>is your line in the sand? I don't know. It's

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<v Speaker 2>different for everyone, but I find the SRI survivor testimonies

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<v Speaker 2>really fascinating. It's, like I said, for me, it's almost

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<v Speaker 2>like a cinematic experience, like, oh my god, somebody should

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<v Speaker 2>make a movie about this. It would be one of

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<v Speaker 2>those ones where you get out of the theater and

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<v Speaker 2>look at your friend and go, that probably is some

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<v Speaker 2>real shit, like hostile. That shit probably goes on people.

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<v Speaker 2>You should watch it. So what do I got for

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<v Speaker 2>us today? Well, I have an SRA survivor testimony for

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<v Speaker 2>us today? Is that a dick of me? I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>put it in the title on purpose, just in case

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<v Speaker 2>mister G from the email is looking out for that.

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<v Speaker 2>In the title, I wanted him to click on this video.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a dick of me? I don't know, but yes,

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<v Speaker 2>click off now if you're not interested. But I do

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<v Speaker 2>have an SRA Survivor for us today, and it might

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<v Speaker 2>back and enjoy it. I purposely didn't put it in

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<v Speaker 2>the title because I wanted mister g to click on

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<v Speaker 2>this episode. Like I said, but it's a doozy and

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<v Speaker 2>after today we'll take a little break from the SRA Survivors.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm telling you, you gotta love it. But another

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<v Speaker 2>news is time moving weird for you guys. Listen. I've

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<v Speaker 2>time's moving slower, or times moving faster or time. I

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<v Speaker 2>right now. Sometimes I feel like I don't know where

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<v Speaker 2>Time just actually seems to be moving odd. And I

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<v Speaker 2>spinoff show The Marvel the Loki about like all the

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<v Speaker 2>weird right now. It feels weird. Everything feels off, just

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<v Speaker 2>like I'll see three videos in a row that just

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<v Speaker 2>that's like AI trying to scare people and nobody's really

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<v Speaker 2>talking about like the real issues here. I'm just a

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<v Speaker 2>But we'll see as time goes on, you know, as

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone with eyes to see could tell that was like

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<v Speaker 2>a replacement person. There were plenty who had eyes to

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<v Speaker 2>see that new Britney fucking got replaced. And you know

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<v Speaker 2>they were saying, were where's Brittany wears Britney? Brittany wear

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<v Speaker 2>yellow shirt? If you're in trouble, would they say justice

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<v Speaker 2>for Brittany? And anybody with like half an intuition knew

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't Britney anymore. It's like, but nobody even cares

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<v Speaker 2>about that bitch. They replaced Brittany. Life moves on. Now

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<v Speaker 2>they've replaced Jim Carrey. I guess life is gonna continue

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<v Speaker 2>to move on now. Well, it's odd to me that

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<v Speaker 2>we don't get stuck on these things for a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit longer. I know, the Brittany thing, it took us

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<v Speaker 2>a while to get over it. Now nobody gives a shit.

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<v Speaker 2>But now we got Jim Carrey, and that's just not

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<v Speaker 2>acceptable to me. Who else I'm sure major politicians have

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<v Speaker 2>been replaced. I'm really surprised they didn't swap the queen out.

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<v Speaker 2>She's probably her consciousness got uploaded into some younger person's body, probably,

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<v Speaker 2>but they retired that old carcass and uploaded her into

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's just they're getting sloppy with stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Clearly obviously they're doing stuff that I mean, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you even say? What do you even say? But to

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<v Speaker 2>give you a little taste test of where we're at

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<v Speaker 2>as a nation, some of the entertainment that is millions

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<v Speaker 2>of viewers, subscribers, people in the comments, fighting with each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Just they're getting we've lost control of ourselves, is what's happened,

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<v Speaker 2>And we've lost all logic and common sense the entertainment

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<v Speaker 2>that we have. This popped up suggested for me, and

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<v Speaker 2>why the fuck they thought that I'd be interested? I

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<v Speaker 2>have no idea. A trans person with no arms and

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<v Speaker 2>no legs doing skincare and haircare routines, millions and millions

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<v Speaker 2>of followers, millions of comments, thousands of people In the comments,

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<v Speaker 2>some people are saying this is weird, why are we

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<v Speaker 2>watching this? This is stupid? And then the next comment

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<v Speaker 2>is don't you talk about them like that? They have

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<v Speaker 2>rights to be a content creator if they want to.

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<v Speaker 2>So obviously, the trans person born with no arms and

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<v Speaker 2>legs doing skin and haircare routines with a five o'clock shadow,

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<v Speaker 2>doing makeup video like, we're supposed to accept it, and

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<v Speaker 2>they go by day, then we're supposed to accept this.

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<v Speaker 2>We're supposed to be okay, nothing to see here, just

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<v Speaker 2>a person I don't even know if they have genitalia.

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<v Speaker 2>They had no legs, you understand, they had barely had

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<v Speaker 2>a pelvis, no arms, half a beard with lipstick on,

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<v Speaker 2>washing their hair in the shower and goes by day

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<v Speaker 2>then and millions and millions of what's the word fall lowers?

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<v Speaker 2>Fall lowers. That's why I am so careful to describe

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<v Speaker 2>my audience as listeners, subscribers, whatever, anything but fallowers. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not running a cult here.

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<v Speaker 3>People.

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<v Speaker 2>You can check out any time, but you can never leave.

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<v Speaker 2>Just kidding, y'all always come back. But that's not the point.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where we're at as an This is what's entertaining.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the video right under that, the transperson with

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<v Speaker 2>half a pelvis and no arms, with a mustache and

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<v Speaker 2>pigtails talking about get ready with me? I'm okay, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>But the next video is all these sympathizers coming out

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<v Speaker 2>of the old so and so from my six hundred

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<v Speaker 2>pound life died after fighting for her life from what fatness?

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<v Speaker 2>Fighting from her life from fatness. I just don't Is

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<v Speaker 2>this really our entertainment here? People? Is this really our entertainment?

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<v Speaker 2>And then what's that next video under that? Something completely appalling,

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<v Speaker 2>something important, something that, oh, well, it's not as important

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<v Speaker 2>as the trans person with half a genitalia combing their

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<v Speaker 2>hair and putting lipstick on it, beard oil or the

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<v Speaker 2>six hundred pound fatty who died because they had one

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<v Speaker 2>too many MC muffins. Listen the video right after that

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<v Speaker 2>is a town local to me. It's called Eagle Points, Oregon.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably what ten to fifteen minutes from my house.

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<v Speaker 2>Another pedophilia ring discovered, police bringing out boxes and cases

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<v Speaker 2>of child pornography material.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm it's got like a thousand views, maybe you know,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and two hundred comments on it, but the

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<v Speaker 2>six hundred pound life millions of views, millions of comments.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh poor Whitney or whatever the fuck her name was,

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<v Speaker 2>and rip, okay, rip, maybe she should have tried ozimpic.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't and I don't even I'm not even an

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<v Speaker 2>advocate for it, but do something, damn okay. The point

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<v Speaker 2>being is something stupid like that or the ridiculousness of

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<v Speaker 2>get ready with me? So these this is where we

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<v Speaker 2>are putting our attention. This is where we're focusing our

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<v Speaker 2>concerted efforts subscribing and sharing these videos, when right underneath

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<v Speaker 2>there is an entire child pornography ring discovered in a

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<v Speaker 2>local town. They're bringing out boxes and boxes and boxes

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<v Speaker 2>and child pornography in Eagle Point oregan one thousand views,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a couple hundred comments, maybe and again just like

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<v Speaker 2>the guy got who got busted in Medford, my town

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<v Speaker 2>that I live in just a few weeks ago. This house,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like teal with white shutters, little garden in the front,

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<v Speaker 2>hibiscus plants, little hummingbird feeder out front. They had a

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<v Speaker 2>little arch with like some little tomatoes growing on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Inside the house, super cute. They got goose pictures on

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<v Speaker 2>the wall, They got hands stitched quilts on the couch.

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<v Speaker 2>Looked like a little old grandma house somewhere you'd love

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<v Speaker 2>to live. Could have been an airbnb, it was so cute.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a sewing room with a little sewing machine

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<v Speaker 2>and little fragments of fabrics everywhere, Curtains on the windows, area, rugs,

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<v Speaker 2>guess soap in the bathroom. Listen, people, this is what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you. It could be your name or uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Boxes and filing cabinets of child pornography. They pulled out

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<v Speaker 2>of that house Eagle Point, Oregon. So while everyone else

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<v Speaker 2>is distracted by you name it fill in the blank,

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<v Speaker 2>the circus continues, dot dot dot, just scrolling on our

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<v Speaker 2>phones watching genderless neutral, no leg having no arm having

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<v Speaker 2>get ready with me. That's got millions views, But we're

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<v Speaker 2>busting pedophile rings in my neighborhood every other week over here,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a thousand views. It just to me, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's astounding. It's astounding. Why that's not more important. But

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<v Speaker 2>we do live in the m Night Shyamalan plot twist,

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll see what happens. Something really horrible could be

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<v Speaker 2>on its way that makes everyone stop and pay attention.

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<v Speaker 2>We shall see. But that's enough of that. How about

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<v Speaker 2>a little apothecary cornter to wet our whistle before we

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<v Speaker 2>jump right in. Yes, Jay, you too, you will be

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<v Speaker 2>jumping in as well me or don't you know, live

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<v Speaker 2>your own life. I'm not a cult leader. Over here,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be jumping into today's as R a survivor and

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<v Speaker 2>the host of this interview. Finally somebody I can get

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<v Speaker 2>on board with. He only ever spoke when it was necessary,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the kind of shit that I'm on board with.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't be interjecting every five minutes, don't make the entire

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<v Speaker 2>episode about yourself. Let the bitch speak now. This one,

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<v Speaker 2>it's borderline having Golden Corral with the Blue Aviels. It's

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<v Speaker 2>right there. So we got someone, and use your discernment.

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<v Speaker 2>We got someone who's either a completely mentally ill needs

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<v Speaker 2>to be locked up, as Jay said in the email,

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<v Speaker 2>or we have someone who has survived some of the

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<v Speaker 2>most incredible bullshit I've ever heard in my fucking life.

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<v Speaker 2>So up to you, what do you think? But before

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<v Speaker 2>we get into it, how about a little apothecary corncer

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<v Speaker 2>what tickle in the tank today? I did one for

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<v Speaker 2>the ladies last time, so today we need to do

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<v Speaker 2>something for everyone. And when I say everyone, I mean everyone. Alright,

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<v Speaker 2>something short, sweetened to the point. Here's a little something

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<v Speaker 2>for your immune system antie microbial infusion. Do not put

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<v Speaker 2>this on your taint, it will burn. This says olive

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<v Speaker 2>leaf and tie microbial in fu usion a robust herbal

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<v Speaker 2>infusion to support the immune system and fight off microbial invaders.

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<v Speaker 2>Olive leaf is a powerful antimicrobial and anti viral herb

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<v Speaker 2>that works well during acute illness and for ongoing immune support.

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<v Speaker 2>This might be good if shit turns into world boards

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<v Speaker 2>z or I am legend at that point I would

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<v Speaker 2>recommend putting it on your tank. You don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>have zombie tanke. It just it's not gonna be good

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<v Speaker 2>for anyone at all. And if they're planning a COVID

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<v Speaker 2>two point zero and we all get leprosy again, put

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<v Speaker 2>it in your pits, you tank, you bhole wherever you

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<v Speaker 2>can get it. But nobody likes a zombie tank. This

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be one table spoon, dried olive leaf,

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<v Speaker 2>one tea spoon, dried time, one tea spoon dried lemon, balm,

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<v Speaker 2>one tea spoon dried sage, and then lemon and raw honey.

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<v Speaker 2>Place all the herbs in a teapot, Boil the bitches,

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<v Speaker 2>steep them twenty minutes, and then add your lemon and honey.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh you know again, not for the tank, but it

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<v Speaker 2>could be eventually. Drink on the onset of illness one

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<v Speaker 2>to two cups daily. And that is the olive leaf

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<v Speaker 2>anti microbial in effusion. And that's gonna do it for

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<v Speaker 2>today's apotha carry corn. He So, speaking of olive leafs,

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<v Speaker 2>how about an olive branch. To the listener who reached

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<v Speaker 2>out via email, I get it, you don't like the shit,

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<v Speaker 2>And as you said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>right there with you, But I think for a moment,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I also understand there's only so much disbelief

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<v Speaker 2>that you can withhold. Do what feels right for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Do what feels right for you will take a little

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<v Speaker 2>recess from the SRA survivors, But it does tickle my

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<v Speaker 2>taints every once in a while to understand the inner

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<v Speaker 2>workings of what could be really going on out there.

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<v Speaker 2>And why I think it's important is because it would

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<v Speaker 2>be hard for me to believe that this little old

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<v Speaker 2>lady cottage down the street from my residence that has

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<v Speaker 2>hibiscus plants and hand stitched quilts and goose pictures could

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<v Speaker 2>be the hub of a major child pornography ring. But

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<v Speaker 2>yet it's reality. There are some things that are so

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<v Speaker 2>outside the realm of what we would consider to be

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<v Speaker 2>acceptable or believable, realistic, and yet they are true. If

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<v Speaker 2>you told me a they them trans person with half

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<v Speaker 2>a beard, no genitalia, zero legs, zero arms was doing

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00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:42.159
<v Speaker 2>get Ready with Me videos on TikTok and had millions

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<v Speaker 2>of views people fighting over them in the comments section,

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<v Speaker 2>and only a few thousand views on the child pedophilia

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<v Speaker 2>ring video. I'd say, you're crazy, that's impossible. What the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck is going on? What's wrong with our nation? But

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<v Speaker 2>yet here we are. Anyways, let's just jump into today's

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<v Speaker 2>sra SERVI for and again, I think you're gonna love it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're really gonna love it. And again this person could

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<v Speaker 2>be borderline padded room or borderline my reality is totally shifted,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. So she's also from New

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<v Speaker 2>Jersey or she's a real like. I wouldn't wanna. I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't want to run into her late at night in

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<v Speaker 2>the Walmart parking lot. She scares me a little, really

433
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:48.920
<v Speaker 2>rough and tough like. She looks like the type who

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<v Speaker 2>smokes sixteen packs of camels a day and hangs out

435
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<v Speaker 2>at Buffalo Bill's titty bar. She's the cancer, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's because she's survived what she's went through. It

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00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:10.559
<v Speaker 2>would make you a tough bitch, but a little scary,

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<v Speaker 2>little intimidating. This woman her name was Holly. But all

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<v Speaker 2>that being said, roll on one.

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<v Speaker 3>They are alive with Holly. Huge.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you to Holly for coming on in mk Ultra

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<v Speaker 4>series of interviews. Just give you a little bit of

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<v Speaker 4>background before I hand it over to Holly. Then, Holly's

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<v Speaker 4>an author and she's gonna share her personal story of

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<v Speaker 4>growing up in the shadow of the mk ultar program,

446
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<v Speaker 4>tracing its origins back to Operation paper Clip. She's going

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<v Speaker 4>to discuss how post what intelligence initiatives evolved, the long

448
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<v Speaker 4>term psychological impact this has had on her life, and

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00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:01.599
<v Speaker 4>why she believes these programs from me hidden for decades.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's a serious emotional story, a journey, and we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to explore trauma, memory and one of.

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<v Speaker 3>The darkest chapters of Cold War history. So huge, thank

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<v Speaker 3>you for coming on, Holly.

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<v Speaker 1>Huge, thank you for having me, mister Atwood. I really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it, especially because I folog you since twenty fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen, so this is a huge opportunity. I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>happy to be here.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you again, and we appreciate you your support for

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<v Speaker 4>that length of time. So our viewers like a long

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<v Speaker 4>detailed journey of your life story as it's happened. So

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<v Speaker 4>let's go back to the very beginning then, Actually, before

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<v Speaker 4>before we go back to the beginning, could you just

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<v Speaker 4>explain to you know, to some people, perhaps we don't

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<v Speaker 4>understand what mk ultrare is.

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<v Speaker 3>What what is mk ultra.

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<v Speaker 1>It's torture based mind control techniques. They use combinations of

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<v Speaker 1>drugs and hypnotism, So they would, you know, hold me

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<v Speaker 1>underwater until unliving me wait a certain amount of time,

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<v Speaker 1>and then resuscitate me and the other children. And they

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00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:27.880
<v Speaker 1>would do that repeatedly. There would be sorry, I'm sorry, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Just real quick. The host apparently gave her a list

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<v Speaker 2>of uh, you know, codes to use instead of saying rape,

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<v Speaker 2>instead of saying LSD, instead of saying satanic ritual abuse

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<v Speaker 2>or torture. She for whatever reason, he didn't want her

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<v Speaker 2>to say the actual words. So they have these codes

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<v Speaker 2>like Lucy and the sky with diamonds is LSD RD

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00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:05.760
<v Speaker 2>it means ray. Uh obviously SRA or whatever. You'll get

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<v Speaker 2>the codes as the interview goes along. I think it's lame.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you're going to interview an SRA survivor,

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<v Speaker 2>you better fucking do it uncensored. What kind of pussy

481
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:18.000
<v Speaker 2>shit is that? But anyways, it's not my interview. But

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<v Speaker 2>there are.

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<v Speaker 1>Codes, just so you know, I'm trying to remember the

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<v Speaker 1>list of words.

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<v Speaker 3>Forgive me, you're fine, you're doing great, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I keep doing great, so thank you. But there would

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<v Speaker 1>be s R A, there would be R rings, there

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<v Speaker 1>would be electric electricutions, but it was all torture and

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<v Speaker 1>trauma based. The adults would dress up like different characters,

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<v Speaker 1>like characters from the Holy Bible, and then are the

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<v Speaker 1>children for So you asked me what mk ultra is.

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<v Speaker 1>So mk ultra is you in torture basedline control techniques

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<v Speaker 1>and breaking somebody's mind, fracturing their mind and reprogramming them,

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<v Speaker 1>rewiring them and controlling them with trigger words.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, people used to think this was a conspiracy theory

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<v Speaker 4>that the government was doing this, but now ultras it's

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<v Speaker 4>all wiki page folks, all documented.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah wow, Yeah, So Holly, let's let's go back in time.

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<v Speaker 3>Then where did you grow up?

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in Far Hills, New Jersey. My grandparents,

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<v Speaker 1>Millie and William Gabory, raised me. I had a great

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<v Speaker 1>childhood with them. My mother was never around and she's

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00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:51.039
<v Speaker 1>still not around, so, but my grandparents on my mother's

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00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:53.679
<v Speaker 1>side raised me and I had a great life with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I met my father when I was eighteen, and I

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00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:01.280
<v Speaker 1>sought him out and we had a great relationship for

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00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:07.079
<v Speaker 1>seven years until his passing. So my father was Baglio.

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<v Speaker 1>He told me that on his side of the family,

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00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:15.079
<v Speaker 1>they had a pre arranged marriage for me waiting when

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00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I turned eighteen, but because I was raised outside the family,

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00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:21.280
<v Speaker 1>they were not going to hold me to it. But

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00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:23.880
<v Speaker 1>if my father had asked me, I would have married

514
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:27.519
<v Speaker 1>the boy anyway. On my mother's side of the family,

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<v Speaker 1>my grandfather was served in the Navy in World War

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<v Speaker 1>Two on a mind speakership, so I think it began

517
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<v Speaker 1>with him. I think he was an unknowing, unwilling candidate

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00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:46.000
<v Speaker 1>in these projects himself, because he would come home and

519
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:50.119
<v Speaker 1>tell Grandma Millie Gabrie that the Navy would give him

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00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:57.800
<v Speaker 1>the other soldiers lucy in the sky with diamonds and

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00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:03.280
<v Speaker 1>green stuff, just as see what it would do. And

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00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:05.719
<v Speaker 1>she thought he was fullha more larkie, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>telling the truth. He served on a mind sweepership. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that he himself was at mon Talk

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<v Speaker 1>or part of certain projects, but mine sweeperships were used

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<v Speaker 1>in the Philadelphia Experiment, so I'm not saying that my

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00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:27.800
<v Speaker 1>grandfather was in the Philadelphia experiment. However, he was subjected

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<v Speaker 1>to these MK ultra projects through his service in the

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<v Speaker 1>Navy and the Reserves. I just don't know to what degree,

530
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:41.280
<v Speaker 1>but whatever started with my grandfather with things like Project

531
00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:45.559
<v Speaker 1>looking glass. They knew I was coming and they tracked me.

532
00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:53.159
<v Speaker 1>So I was literally born into these projects. Joseph Mangli,

533
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:57.320
<v Speaker 1>the Angel of Death from World War two. He was

534
00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:01.440
<v Speaker 1>spared an Operation paper Clip and Operation paper Clip as

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<v Speaker 1>a project where they spared approximately fifteen hundred Nazi scientists

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00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:11.880
<v Speaker 1>and elect from World War two and brought them all

537
00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:15.079
<v Speaker 1>throughout the world, like to the US, Argentina, I think Canada,

538
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:18.920
<v Speaker 1>all over to different certain different areas to spare them.

539
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.599
<v Speaker 1>And they never went through Nurberg Trials or anything else.

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00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:27.880
<v Speaker 1>But Joseph Mangli he was a scientist and he experimented

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<v Speaker 1>on humans and he tampered with the DNA and the genetics. However,

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00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:40.000
<v Speaker 1>he was also a sorcerer. Everybody talks about Jack Parsons

543
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:45.039
<v Speaker 1>JPL Jet Propulsions lab, Jack Parson's lab, and he opened

544
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:48.480
<v Speaker 1>a big portal in a desert, while justin Mangle could

545
00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:51.840
<v Speaker 1>open up a portal inside a person. So it was

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00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:57.880
<v Speaker 1>not just his experiments, but he would also incorporate sorcery

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00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:09.519
<v Speaker 1>and necromancy and sra into it. So I was born

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<v Speaker 1>into this. Joseph Mangley used gene splicing in my creation,

549
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:19.239
<v Speaker 1>so he used different DNA he used my mother and father,

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00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:26.719
<v Speaker 1>my biological parents' DNA on Unaki DNA and rothschild DNA.

551
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:33.719
<v Speaker 1>He used these different DNA. He used gene splicing. I

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00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:37.800
<v Speaker 1>was then implanted in my mother's womb, and while she

553
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:42.039
<v Speaker 1>was pregnant with me, my own kulture programming started right

554
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:45.760
<v Speaker 1>then and there, so I was traumatized in her womb.

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00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:49.119
<v Speaker 1>So when it came time for her to deliver me,

556
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I was born breach, which means I was bent in

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<v Speaker 1>half and my butt came out first, and I was

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00:44:56.960 --> 00:44:59.840
<v Speaker 1>five pounds twelve ounces, but then I dropped down to

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<v Speaker 1>five pounds one ounce and they were going to keep me,

560
00:45:03.639 --> 00:45:06.639
<v Speaker 1>but because I gained a couple ounces, they did release

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00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:10.559
<v Speaker 1>me on time. But for all my life, I have

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<v Speaker 1>two sets of memories. I have a set of being

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<v Speaker 1>in deep underground military basis and then another set of

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<v Speaker 1>memories for being on the surface of the earth. So

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<v Speaker 1>I had a normal life just like everybody where. I

566
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<v Speaker 1>went to high school and I went to Rariton Valley

567
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Community College for accounting. I had one class to get

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<v Speaker 1>my degree. I worked for AT and T and Pharmacia

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00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:41.119
<v Speaker 1>before fives are bought it out. I wrote poetry back then,

570
00:45:41.639 --> 00:45:45.119
<v Speaker 1>but I never expected to write anything more than a poem.

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00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:50.440
<v Speaker 1>So you know, I've been married and divorced, no kids,

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00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:57.480
<v Speaker 1>So I've had a normal, regular life. But for thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven years of my life, forty years of my life,

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<v Speaker 1>I have two sets of memories where I was also

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<v Speaker 1>in these deep underground military bases being transported, and I

576
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<v Speaker 1>was kept in a cage.

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<v Speaker 3>I was also right, Okay, let let me slow you down.

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<v Speaker 4>So you've kind of jumped ahead and give given an

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<v Speaker 4>off of view. So what we're gonna do is we're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna go back now. Early on you said that you

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<v Speaker 4>know you had this happy childhood under your grandparents. So

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<v Speaker 4>how many years was it happy for before things started

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<v Speaker 4>to change?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, with my grandparents my whole life until they died.

585
00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I was happy with them. I had a good life

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00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:48.000
<v Speaker 1>with them raising me. When my mother came in my life,

587
00:46:48.119 --> 00:46:52.039
<v Speaker 1>I was bounced around. I would say she was verbally

588
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:56.280
<v Speaker 1>abusive and emotionally abusive and not available. But that's why

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00:46:56.400 --> 00:47:00.719
<v Speaker 1>my grand I stayed at my grandparents' house. So I

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<v Speaker 1>had a good, regular, normal life.

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<v Speaker 3>If you will, all right me, let me rephrase this question.

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<v Speaker 3>Then when do you remember first being in these experiments?

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<v Speaker 1>I think when I was about one and a half

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<v Speaker 1>years old. It is like the first memory maybe three

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<v Speaker 1>and around to three years old.

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00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:27.239
<v Speaker 3>Could you describe that memory please? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Okay, my memories are fragmented. So at the time,

598
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:39.800
<v Speaker 1>my mother had taken me out of the care of

599
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:43.519
<v Speaker 1>my grandparents, moved us from New Jersey down to San Antonio,

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<v Speaker 1>Texas or Austin, Texas. San Antonio, Texas, and she was

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00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:52.679
<v Speaker 1>never around. She kind of dropped me on my cousins.

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00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:57.440
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not sure where exactly they picked me up

603
00:47:57.519 --> 00:47:59.440
<v Speaker 1>or how they picked me up, but there was more

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<v Speaker 1>than enough room for them to take me out of

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00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:09.480
<v Speaker 1>my normal life where nobody would miss me. So the

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<v Speaker 1>first memory, I believe I was in the dumbs of

607
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<v Speaker 1>Texas and I was brought in with a group of children.

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<v Speaker 1>So I remember sitting on the floor Indian style and

609
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:28.039
<v Speaker 1>twenty maybe twenty five kids, so a classroom of kids,

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00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:33.599
<v Speaker 1>and there were a bunch of adults standing over us,

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00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:37.079
<v Speaker 1>some kind of dressed like a nurse, but others dressed

612
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:43.000
<v Speaker 1>like Nazis, like Nazi soldiers. They had fatigues and different

613
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:48.360
<v Speaker 1>stuff on, and they were telling us. I have one

614
00:48:48.440 --> 00:48:51.239
<v Speaker 1>memory where they were telling us we're turning you into

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00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:54.639
<v Speaker 1>super soldiers. And I kept asking the little boy next

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00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:58.480
<v Speaker 1>to me, what, what's a sup what's a super soldier?

617
00:48:59.119 --> 00:49:01.760
<v Speaker 1>What's a myth? And he was trying to explain it

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<v Speaker 1>to me. But another memory I have is we were

619
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<v Speaker 1>kept in cages. There was about five to ten kids

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<v Speaker 1>in each cage. If you go to like a Walmart

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<v Speaker 1>supercenter and you take out the rows of items and

622
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:21.719
<v Speaker 1>you replace it with cages and five to ten kids

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<v Speaker 1>in each cage. And we were wired up to these cages.

624
00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:30.920
<v Speaker 1>And in my one memory, it looked like a huge,

625
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:34.960
<v Speaker 1>big warehouse with tons of cages in it. And they

626
00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:40.199
<v Speaker 1>electrocuted all of us, and I remember all the screaming

627
00:49:40.280 --> 00:49:44.920
<v Speaker 1>and crying. After the electrocution, it got quiet and there

628
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:49.719
<v Speaker 1>were only a couple cages where you saw movement, And

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<v Speaker 1>as fantastical and crazy as it sounds, I think I

630
00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:59.000
<v Speaker 1>saw one of the royals shape shifting. The shape shifted royal.

631
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<v Speaker 1>It looked, for lack of better terms, like a t

632
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<v Speaker 1>rex dinosaur. The beadi's sharp teeth and snout tail. This

633
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:14.960
<v Speaker 1>t rex looking dinosaur thing come walking down between the cages,

634
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and then it came in front of mine and the

635
00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:20.840
<v Speaker 1>same little boy that I kept asking those questions too.

636
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:23.719
<v Speaker 1>He was wired up in the cage as well, and

637
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<v Speaker 1>he said, Holly, bow your head like the Egyptians, or

638
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:30.840
<v Speaker 1>like the sleeves bowed to the Egyptian side. Bowed my

639
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:37.679
<v Speaker 1>head and this shapeshifter thing said why, why are you

640
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:41.639
<v Speaker 1>still alive? And I said, well, it still hurts, but

641
00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:44.679
<v Speaker 1>some of the pain went away. And then it said

642
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:48.400
<v Speaker 1>what are you scared of? And I had nothing to

643
00:50:48.480 --> 00:50:54.639
<v Speaker 1>lose at that point. You and it then it replied,

644
00:50:54.920 --> 00:50:58.480
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to be scared of me. It reached

645
00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:01.840
<v Speaker 1>down in the cage, it took me out. It brought

646
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:04.280
<v Speaker 1>me into another room. But the other room the other

647
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:07.079
<v Speaker 1>kids could still see into that room because it was

648
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:11.280
<v Speaker 1>half wall and then half glass, and the Shape Shifter

649
00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:20.280
<v Speaker 1>armed me, armed me, and then aid me beat me.

650
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:25.280
<v Speaker 1>So when when it was done oring me, it threw

651
00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:27.559
<v Speaker 1>me against the wall and I hit the wall so

652
00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:31.159
<v Speaker 1>hard I landed on the ground and my head. I

653
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:33.760
<v Speaker 1>think my skull was fractured, because I just remember blood

654
00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:38.119
<v Speaker 1>pouring all over. And one of the other programmers came

655
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:41.119
<v Speaker 1>over to me, a lady like she was going to

656
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:45.039
<v Speaker 1>help me up or something like that, and the shape shifter.

657
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:50.079
<v Speaker 1>The royal turned I think it, oh anyway, turned and

658
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:54.760
<v Speaker 1>turned to the programmer and said leave her there. And

659
00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:57.480
<v Speaker 1>then the shape shifter went out, went to the next

660
00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:01.760
<v Speaker 1>cage of the next child that was alive, brought it

661
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:04.559
<v Speaker 1>into the room and did the same thing to that

662
00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:10.320
<v Speaker 1>child and exposed all of the living children still left

663
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:15.840
<v Speaker 1>alive after that electrocution exposed it to r ring and

664
00:52:19.079 --> 00:52:26.199
<v Speaker 1>typical beatings and tortures. So, but we were kept in

665
00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:34.360
<v Speaker 1>a cage the whole time. We were denied food, border, blankets, necessities.

666
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Some kids didn't even have clothing on. You know, it

667
00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:42.239
<v Speaker 1>just depended.

668
00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:46.519
<v Speaker 4>Sorry, well, you know you're doing You're doing great. Do

669
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:51.639
<v Speaker 4>you know we appreciate you. You were visiting these memories,

670
00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:53.440
<v Speaker 4>it must be hard. And let me just add a

671
00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:56.719
<v Speaker 4>little bit here then, So, in the documented methods that

672
00:52:56.800 --> 00:53:00.960
<v Speaker 4>the government used to traumatize kids in the mkal To program,

673
00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:06.119
<v Speaker 4>we've got exactly the things that Holly has described with execution.

674
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:11.639
<v Speaker 3>Predator activity. I'll just say to keep it calm for YouTube.

675
00:53:12.519 --> 00:53:15.679
<v Speaker 4>And in terms of you know, the Nazis, I've written

676
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:18.800
<v Speaker 4>about Pablo Escobar and he said when he was going

677
00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:22.679
<v Speaker 4>through the jungles of South America, he came across entire

678
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:26.800
<v Speaker 4>camps of Nazis saluting and singing songs to Hitler, etc.

679
00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:31.400
<v Speaker 3>These people had come over through the rat Line.

680
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:35.039
<v Speaker 4>Which was established by the Vatican to help them escape

681
00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:42.039
<v Speaker 4>from Europe to South America or to join US intelligence.

682
00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:45.639
<v Speaker 3>So all this is completely documented. What Holly's saying.

683
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:48.719
<v Speaker 4>One of the characters I have wrote extensively about is

684
00:53:48.840 --> 00:53:53.360
<v Speaker 4>Klaus Barbie, the butchert of Leon, who in South America

685
00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:57.519
<v Speaker 4>was running torture squads, was bringing the white powder in

686
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:03.119
<v Speaker 4>and fighting community. So the US justified bringing all these

687
00:54:03.239 --> 00:54:09.199
<v Speaker 4>Nazies over in the national security interest to fight the communists,

688
00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:12.119
<v Speaker 4>all right. So so Holly, it sounds like these are

689
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:17.079
<v Speaker 4>very very early memories. Then what you've described so far,

690
00:54:18.079 --> 00:54:22.039
<v Speaker 4>what kind of situations do you get in shortly thereafter?

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00:54:26.119 --> 00:54:28.679
<v Speaker 1>You mean, like what like I mean, I have more

692
00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:32.519
<v Speaker 1>stories of what the programmers and like Joseph Mangley would

693
00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:33.119
<v Speaker 1>do to us.

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00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:35.760
<v Speaker 3>If that's I'm just trying to go through it year

695
00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:36.320
<v Speaker 3>by year.

696
00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:40.320
<v Speaker 4>You started out at the beginning, what happens next, if

697
00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:42.079
<v Speaker 4>it's Mangley or whatever.

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00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:45.639
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I think it started in Texas, but then

699
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I think at some point we were up in Nelson, Canada,

700
00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:54.199
<v Speaker 1>and I was still pretty young, and I think in Nelson,

701
00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:58.639
<v Speaker 1>Canada we were still keptain cages. It was kind of

702
00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:05.280
<v Speaker 1>a continuation of Texas. I think I was about five

703
00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:11.880
<v Speaker 1>or six. For Nelson Canada, they had sick games for

704
00:55:12.320 --> 00:55:17.719
<v Speaker 1>like I'm not exactly sure, but you know, they had

705
00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:21.719
<v Speaker 1>these boxes that were similar to coffins. I don't want

706
00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:24.239
<v Speaker 1>to say the words because I have with the algorithms,

707
00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:27.519
<v Speaker 1>and they would put us in these boxes with you know,

708
00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:38.239
<v Speaker 1>insects and snakes and other unlived people and leave us there.

709
00:55:40.239 --> 00:55:43.159
<v Speaker 1>It felt like they left us there for days, just

710
00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:48.599
<v Speaker 1>buried with these things. Or we were kept in cages.

711
00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:53.360
<v Speaker 1>There were these three There were these monkeys that they

712
00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:55.400
<v Speaker 1>had that they would keep us in the cages with

713
00:55:55.840 --> 00:56:01.639
<v Speaker 1>and the monkeys would just beat us. The monkeys were

714
00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:05.480
<v Speaker 1>trained to do certain things to the kids, so we

715
00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:09.800
<v Speaker 1>were kept inside. We were trained with the animals. Once

716
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:11.920
<v Speaker 1>I got older and I was farmed out to black

717
00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:15.079
<v Speaker 1>operations and stuff, I remember training with the dolphins and

718
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:17.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. But when I was a little kid,

719
00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:23.239
<v Speaker 1>they played this game with us. I remember they flew

720
00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:26.320
<v Speaker 1>this one kid in by airplane and I was brought

721
00:56:26.400 --> 00:56:32.079
<v Speaker 1>in by convoy in Nelson, Canada. My memory is fragmented,

722
00:56:32.239 --> 00:56:37.000
<v Speaker 1>but they brought us children in and we were wrapped

723
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:41.960
<v Speaker 1>in blankets, but they gave us Lucy and the sky

724
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:47.239
<v Speaker 1>with diamonds or something like that, and boy, that was

725
00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:51.559
<v Speaker 1>a hard, rough feeling. But then Mangle and the other

726
00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:55.119
<v Speaker 1>programmers would play a game. They made us pick a color.

727
00:56:55.280 --> 00:56:57.480
<v Speaker 1>I called it the flag game. Because they don't really

728
00:56:57.599 --> 00:57:02.440
<v Speaker 1>know how to explain these things. I've seen them on

729
00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:09.920
<v Speaker 1>alive another child by burnt by fire. So but they

730
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:12.800
<v Speaker 1>played this game I called it the flag game where

731
00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:16.400
<v Speaker 1>they had each of us kids. There's about twenty of

732
00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:18.400
<v Speaker 1>us kids, and they had us pick out a color.

733
00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:22.199
<v Speaker 1>Or maybe there's about ten or fifteen, I can't remember,

734
00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:26.320
<v Speaker 1>but it was a small group of kids. They had

735
00:57:26.440 --> 00:57:29.559
<v Speaker 1>us each pick out colors. And I was going to

736
00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:32.760
<v Speaker 1>pick out the color pink because my grandmother with her

737
00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:35.639
<v Speaker 1>pink and purple, pink and purple, and the bathroom pink

738
00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:39.079
<v Speaker 1>and purple, and my bedroom pink. Just oh, so I

739
00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:42.679
<v Speaker 1>figured out pick pink. But when I went to reach

740
00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:46.679
<v Speaker 1>for that flag, I saw that there was like a

741
00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:50.880
<v Speaker 1>smudge on it, and I retracted and instead I reached

742
00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:55.360
<v Speaker 1>for the yellow. And when every kid had a color.

743
00:57:56.000 --> 00:57:59.840
<v Speaker 1>The programmer, the lady at the front of the room

744
00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:05.119
<v Speaker 1>called out pink, and the child thought that she had

745
00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:05.760
<v Speaker 1>done well.

746
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:07.679
<v Speaker 3>Well.

747
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:10.880
<v Speaker 1>The soldiers that were in the room came over and

748
00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:13.480
<v Speaker 1>grabbed the child and put the child in one of

749
00:58:13.559 --> 00:58:16.440
<v Speaker 1>those boxes. And in one of those boxes was an

750
00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:20.599
<v Speaker 1>overgrown wolf. It looked like a mute and overgrown wolf

751
00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:26.639
<v Speaker 1>to me, and that was how the child was unalived,

752
00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:31.159
<v Speaker 1>and we had to watch that. And when we were

753
00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:38.719
<v Speaker 1>done watching the unaliving by you know, the poor soul

754
00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:44.239
<v Speaker 1>was ripped apart by that animal. I just remember them

755
00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:46.840
<v Speaker 1>coming and strapping each one of us kids down on

756
00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:51.760
<v Speaker 1>what seemed like a gurney or some sort of wheelchair.

757
00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:55.159
<v Speaker 1>We were strapped down and then each rolled out into

758
00:58:55.320 --> 00:59:03.119
<v Speaker 1>separate rooms and the torture continued. Mangli had a daisy game.

759
00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I was a small child under the age of ten,

760
00:59:11.519 --> 00:59:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I think like six or seven or eight I was.

761
00:59:15.239 --> 00:59:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I think we were kept outside in a fenceton area

762
00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:22.000
<v Speaker 1>and there was no shelter or food, water or anything

763
00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:24.880
<v Speaker 1>like that. And I don't know how long we were

764
00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:28.440
<v Speaker 1>left out there in the woods in this Fenceton area,

765
00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:32.679
<v Speaker 1>but I remember MANGLEI came out one day, and there

766
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:36.239
<v Speaker 1>were some other programmers with him, were people with him,

767
00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:40.159
<v Speaker 1>and he came into the Fenceton area and had a

768
00:59:40.280 --> 00:59:43.599
<v Speaker 1>daisy and he'd pick a pedal and he'd say, I

769
00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:47.159
<v Speaker 1>love you. He'd pick another pedal and say I love

770
00:59:47.199 --> 00:59:50.280
<v Speaker 1>you not. And he'd go around the whole daisy, I

771
00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:53.599
<v Speaker 1>love you, I love you not, picking pedals. Well, this

772
00:59:53.800 --> 00:59:57.119
<v Speaker 1>one time, it got down to the last pedal and

773
00:59:57.679 --> 01:00:02.440
<v Speaker 1>he loved me not, and he was looking straight at me.

774
01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:11.039
<v Speaker 1>He loved me not, and he started walking straight towards me.

775
01:00:11.119 --> 01:00:13.320
<v Speaker 1>And the kids at this point were sitting on the ground,

776
01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:16.519
<v Speaker 1>but there was some space between us, so he was

777
01:00:16.639 --> 01:00:19.480
<v Speaker 1>looking at me. He was walking straight to me. All

778
01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:25.679
<v Speaker 1>the other kids knew it. I knew it right before

779
01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:29.719
<v Speaker 1>he took his second to last step. He turned left,

780
01:00:30.599 --> 01:00:34.760
<v Speaker 1>then took his last step, reached down, grabbed the child

781
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:40.760
<v Speaker 1>next to me, grabbed that child up, brought it to

782
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:43.920
<v Speaker 1>the front where he was picking the daisies, and then

783
01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:50.039
<v Speaker 1>he My memory cuts out. I don't know if I

784
01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:52.280
<v Speaker 1>sat there. I don't know if I just sat there

785
01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and took it or ran up streaming you can't do this.

786
01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:56.880
<v Speaker 1>You love me not? You love me not. That's supposed

787
01:00:56.920 --> 01:01:00.679
<v Speaker 1>to be me. I don't remember. I just remember starting

788
01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:04.480
<v Speaker 1>the scream, and my memory goes blank because as he

789
01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:07.159
<v Speaker 1>carried that child up to the front of us, I

790
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:10.280
<v Speaker 1>was looking that child dead in that child's eyes. I

791
01:01:10.360 --> 01:01:11.360
<v Speaker 1>mean he loved me not.

792
01:01:13.159 --> 01:01:14.239
<v Speaker 2>But he uh.

793
01:01:15.559 --> 01:01:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Once he gets to the front of us and he started,

794
01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:22.360
<v Speaker 1>my memory cuts out and goes blank.

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01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:26.800
<v Speaker 3>I said, your brain's gonna shut down at that point.

796
01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So that's the Daisy game. So they do those things,

797
01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:38.360
<v Speaker 1>like one time they dressed up as angels, and you

798
01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:41.519
<v Speaker 1>know in the Bible, you hear about the story where

799
01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:45.280
<v Speaker 1>the angels came down on the Mount Herman and made

800
01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:48.760
<v Speaker 1>a pact and da dah da da da. Well, they

801
01:01:49.039 --> 01:01:52.280
<v Speaker 1>dressed up like angels and when I was a small child,

802
01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:54.440
<v Speaker 1>again under the age of ten, I think maybe I

803
01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:57.880
<v Speaker 1>was about eight years old, they put me on top

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01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:05.159
<v Speaker 1>of a stone pillar and they as saved me, but

805
01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:11.239
<v Speaker 1>it was also s R A. And when they were finished,

806
01:02:12.639 --> 01:02:18.639
<v Speaker 1>I remember another little child coming over and cleaning me

807
01:02:18.800 --> 01:02:22.880
<v Speaker 1>up and bandaging my wounds. I was ripped apart, I

808
01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:26.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, was essayed and sorry, still alive though, but

809
01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:31.239
<v Speaker 1>this other child put you know, patched me and my

810
01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:35.360
<v Speaker 1>wounds up. But then the adults made me serve them

811
01:02:35.719 --> 01:02:38.559
<v Speaker 1>like I was their waitress. And while I had to

812
01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:42.519
<v Speaker 1>serve them, they were still beating me and I was

813
01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:51.599
<v Speaker 1>bleeding through the bandages and everything. So yeah, I don't

814
01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:55.519
<v Speaker 1>mean to jump around. It's it's hard to go linear.

815
01:02:56.440 --> 01:03:00.519
<v Speaker 1>In Nelson, Canada, I do remember when I think it

816
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:06.039
<v Speaker 1>was Majestic twelve, there was a child rescue mission. I

817
01:03:06.159 --> 01:03:08.880
<v Speaker 1>don't consider it a child rescue mission because they didn't

818
01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:12.760
<v Speaker 1>bring me home. One faction of the government was fighting

819
01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:16.760
<v Speaker 1>with another faction of the government. So when we were

820
01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:20.400
<v Speaker 1>being transported to Nelson, Canada, we were actually in a

821
01:03:20.519 --> 01:03:24.440
<v Speaker 1>convoy on the surface of the earth, and there were

822
01:03:25.719 --> 01:03:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about five kids in each vehicle in

823
01:03:29.079 --> 01:03:34.440
<v Speaker 1>this convoy, and I remember driving through the mountains and

824
01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:39.519
<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere these helicopters and people just come out

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01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:43.880
<v Speaker 1>of nowhere and ambush us. The adults that we were

826
01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:49.159
<v Speaker 1>in the vehicle with told us to get out and run,

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01:03:49.519 --> 01:03:54.159
<v Speaker 1>but in the other vehicles we saw that the adults

828
01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:57.000
<v Speaker 1>were shooting the kids because I guess they didn't want

829
01:03:57.039 --> 01:04:01.679
<v Speaker 1>the kids to get loose and trying to mind my words,

830
01:04:04.239 --> 01:04:08.199
<v Speaker 1>they were underlive the kids. So the other faction would

831
01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:11.639
<v Speaker 1>not be able to rescue them. And I remember I

832
01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:13.800
<v Speaker 1>jumped out of the back seat. It was two and

833
01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:18.519
<v Speaker 1>me two and it was me and two little boys,

834
01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:21.760
<v Speaker 1>and we jumped out the back seat and we saw

835
01:04:21.800 --> 01:04:23.880
<v Speaker 1>off in the distance of shed, and we thought we

836
01:04:23.960 --> 01:04:29.239
<v Speaker 1>could make it. Well, while everybody's fighting, me and the

837
01:04:29.280 --> 01:04:32.400
<v Speaker 1>two little boys try to run away. But once we

838
01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:35.599
<v Speaker 1>got to the shed, the bullets were still coming right through.

839
01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:40.079
<v Speaker 1>So the way the land was situated, it's awkward to describe,

840
01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:43.440
<v Speaker 1>but the only way to get further away was we

841
01:04:43.559 --> 01:04:45.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of had to go out and around the shed

842
01:04:46.159 --> 01:04:48.440
<v Speaker 1>and then up the hill, so we'd be exposed for

843
01:04:48.599 --> 01:04:53.559
<v Speaker 1>part of the way. Well, as we're running, the two

844
01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:56.679
<v Speaker 1>little boys are in front of me. One I think

845
01:04:56.719 --> 01:04:58.679
<v Speaker 1>they were in front of me, if my memory serves me.

846
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:03.000
<v Speaker 1>The one gets shot back, and I'm sorry to say this,

847
01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:05.960
<v Speaker 1>but me and the other little boy just kept running

848
01:05:06.119 --> 01:05:08.920
<v Speaker 1>as fast and as hard as we could, and my

849
01:05:09.079 --> 01:05:10.440
<v Speaker 1>memory goes flank from there.

850
01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:14.039
<v Speaker 3>Well, of course you wouldn't. It's fight on the flight,

851
01:05:14.239 --> 01:05:15.519
<v Speaker 3>isn't it. You're going to be off.

852
01:05:16.519 --> 01:05:21.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But what ended up happening was the other faction

853
01:05:21.400 --> 01:05:25.360
<v Speaker 1>of the government did get us, and all they did

854
01:05:25.639 --> 01:05:28.480
<v Speaker 1>was take us and roll us over into other mk

855
01:05:28.639 --> 01:05:33.000
<v Speaker 1>ulture projects. So they wanted us for themselves. So even

856
01:05:33.039 --> 01:05:36.400
<v Speaker 1>though it was called considered a child rescue mission, we

857
01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:39.760
<v Speaker 1>were still used in these projects. It was just by

858
01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:40.719
<v Speaker 1>a different faction.

859
01:05:40.960 --> 01:05:46.000
<v Speaker 4>Now. So, Hollie, you know you said under your grandparents

860
01:05:46.079 --> 01:05:49.480
<v Speaker 4>you were living a happy, normal life. Well, on the

861
01:05:49.559 --> 01:05:52.360
<v Speaker 4>other side, you've got all this really dark stuff. It's

862
01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:57.199
<v Speaker 4>happening to you. I mean, how you know when you

863
01:05:57.280 --> 01:06:00.639
<v Speaker 4>went back to the grandparents, then were there any adults

864
01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:03.920
<v Speaker 4>who perhaps know that she had injuries, or any school

865
01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:07.039
<v Speaker 4>teachers or anything like that that you could talk to.

866
01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, see, that's the thing is that growing up, I

867
01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:17.039
<v Speaker 1>was always sick. When they took out my tonsils, I

868
01:06:17.159 --> 01:06:20.599
<v Speaker 1>was nine years old. In my normal life, I had

869
01:06:20.639 --> 01:06:23.880
<v Speaker 1>strapped through three or four times in one winter, so

870
01:06:24.039 --> 01:06:28.360
<v Speaker 1>the doctor convinced my mother to take out my tonsils. Well,

871
01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:32.800
<v Speaker 1>then after that I got asthma and allergies, and then

872
01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I had nasal polyps when I was I think fourteen.

873
01:06:37.719 --> 01:06:45.119
<v Speaker 1>So they broke through that memory and they told my

874
01:06:45.239 --> 01:06:47.440
<v Speaker 1>mother they could have gone in a different way to

875
01:06:47.480 --> 01:06:50.480
<v Speaker 1>get them out, but she said, oh, now it doesn't matter. Well,

876
01:06:50.519 --> 01:06:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I just kept all of these different actions kept making

877
01:06:54.079 --> 01:06:58.480
<v Speaker 1>me sicker and sicker. So when I was in the

878
01:06:58.559 --> 01:07:02.400
<v Speaker 1>deep underground military base for any length of time, there

879
01:07:02.519 --> 01:07:05.239
<v Speaker 1>was a clone left in my place. And because I

880
01:07:05.400 --> 01:07:09.119
<v Speaker 1>was sick with asthma and allergies and you know, missing

881
01:07:09.199 --> 01:07:12.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of school, nobody would have noticed that there

882
01:07:13.039 --> 01:07:15.519
<v Speaker 1>was a clone in place of me, and it was

883
01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:19.599
<v Speaker 1>not me, because you know, I was constantly getting sick.

884
01:07:19.679 --> 01:07:22.519
<v Speaker 1>I'd be sick in bed one week and then the

885
01:07:22.719 --> 01:07:25.960
<v Speaker 1>doctors would put me on pretozone and antibiotics and I'd

886
01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:28.840
<v Speaker 1>be up like Superwoman the next week. So it could

887
01:07:28.880 --> 01:07:33.599
<v Speaker 1>have easily just went under people's noses. But the thing

888
01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:38.039
<v Speaker 1>was is there was only one period, I think between

889
01:07:38.199 --> 01:07:41.800
<v Speaker 1>eighteen and nineteen years old where I woke up. I

890
01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:45.039
<v Speaker 1>started to remember the kids in the cage and remember

891
01:07:45.880 --> 01:07:50.760
<v Speaker 1>the electrocutions and remember what was happening, and I was

892
01:07:50.840 --> 01:07:57.719
<v Speaker 1>actually I went off seeking my creator and I wound

893
01:07:57.800 --> 01:08:03.639
<v Speaker 1>up at a Baptist church. Anyway, I had accepted my savior,

894
01:08:04.039 --> 01:08:07.559
<v Speaker 1>but the problem with the church was they wouldn't. They

895
01:08:07.639 --> 01:08:10.719
<v Speaker 1>were not equipped, they were not prepared, they were not

896
01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:14.199
<v Speaker 1>awake and aware. They when I would tell them that,

897
01:08:14.599 --> 01:08:18.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, listen, I've been having these dreams so far

898
01:08:18.439 --> 01:08:20.960
<v Speaker 1>my whole life of eighteen nineteen years, there's kids in

899
01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:23.560
<v Speaker 1>a cage or being electrocuted. But the thing is is,

900
01:08:24.119 --> 01:08:27.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's in my head because these kids

901
01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:30.399
<v Speaker 1>keep getting older and older. I keep seeing some of

902
01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:34.079
<v Speaker 1>the same repeated kids, and we're both aging together.

903
01:08:34.920 --> 01:08:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Like.

904
01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:39.760
<v Speaker 1>We remember each other in the dums, but I'm having

905
01:08:39.800 --> 01:08:42.199
<v Speaker 1>a hard time remembering on the surface of the earth.

906
01:08:43.119 --> 01:08:46.640
<v Speaker 1>When I told the church congregants and the guy was

907
01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:52.159
<v Speaker 1>dating and his family and my friends, oh Jesus, they'll

908
01:08:52.359 --> 01:08:54.399
<v Speaker 1>just take care of it. You're safe, they'll just take

909
01:08:54.439 --> 01:08:56.840
<v Speaker 1>care of it. Oh, those are just bad dreams. Oh

910
01:08:56.920 --> 01:09:00.319
<v Speaker 1>it's in your head. And my biological mother is one

911
01:09:00.359 --> 01:09:02.399
<v Speaker 1>of these. I'll go to a doctor, take a pill,

912
01:09:02.520 --> 01:09:08.800
<v Speaker 1>get over yourself. And it's like no, that no. So

913
01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:13.680
<v Speaker 1>nobody believed me. I got mocked for it, and because

914
01:09:13.720 --> 01:09:17.159
<v Speaker 1>I did not have anywhere to turn, there was no escape.

915
01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:20.840
<v Speaker 1>The only option was was to basically go back to

916
01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:24.720
<v Speaker 1>sleep and let the MK ultra programming continue to run

917
01:09:24.760 --> 01:09:28.079
<v Speaker 1>its course and let the bad guy continue to take

918
01:09:28.159 --> 01:09:31.159
<v Speaker 1>advantage of me and continue to live the life I have.

919
01:09:31.840 --> 01:09:34.399
<v Speaker 1>The church is not aware, my friends make fun of me.

920
01:09:34.600 --> 01:09:38.560
<v Speaker 1>My parents aren't that. My mother's not there. My grandparents

921
01:09:38.680 --> 01:09:43.520
<v Speaker 1>themselves were. My grandfather himself was an unknowing, unwilling candidate

922
01:09:44.119 --> 01:09:48.000
<v Speaker 1>in these very projects I'm suffering, you know. So I

923
01:09:48.239 --> 01:09:51.119
<v Speaker 1>just went right back to sleep. And that was when

924
01:09:51.159 --> 01:09:57.319
<v Speaker 1>I was eighteen or nineteen. MANGI let me go in

925
01:09:57.520 --> 01:10:00.520
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and eight, that's when I was decom missions.

926
01:10:01.239 --> 01:10:09.880
<v Speaker 1>But I did not well. Then the three other super

927
01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Soldiers December twenty eleven came back for me. It still,

928
01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:18.199
<v Speaker 1>even then took me an additional three years to really

929
01:10:18.279 --> 01:10:20.479
<v Speaker 1>wake up and be aware. So that brings us to

930
01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:23.239
<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen, about the time I found you on the internet.

931
01:10:24.119 --> 01:10:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Right, let's let's slow down again, Ollie, let's slow down again.

932
01:10:27.279 --> 01:10:28.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, all right, all right.

933
01:10:28.359 --> 01:10:32.960
<v Speaker 4>So you've you've given a detailed, you know, description of

934
01:10:33.239 --> 01:10:38.479
<v Speaker 4>your early years, and you've got to adulthood, and you're

935
01:10:38.520 --> 01:10:43.800
<v Speaker 4>saying that these the mk Ultra program continued into adulthood.

936
01:10:44.600 --> 01:10:48.840
<v Speaker 3>So did the experiments change as you went into adulthood?

937
01:10:50.600 --> 01:10:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

938
01:10:51.319 --> 01:10:55.720
<v Speaker 1>So, oh, I missed some things. Excuse me, I miss

939
01:10:55.760 --> 01:11:01.359
<v Speaker 1>some stories as far as the s transport. But when

940
01:11:01.439 --> 01:11:05.119
<v Speaker 1>I was as transported, I take that as a part

941
01:11:05.359 --> 01:11:09.840
<v Speaker 1>of my programming and training. When I was young. I

942
01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:13.479
<v Speaker 1>was also surgically enhanced, so it wasn't just the mind control.

943
01:11:13.680 --> 01:11:17.600
<v Speaker 1>They were actually doing surgeries on me and my bones

944
01:11:17.680 --> 01:11:21.520
<v Speaker 1>and organs, putting in I don't know how to say it,

945
01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:26.000
<v Speaker 1>so I'll be layment, but putting in technology. They were

946
01:11:26.079 --> 01:11:30.520
<v Speaker 1>doing something to my bones to strengthen them. I remember

947
01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:35.720
<v Speaker 1>this because in one surgery they accessed me, took me

948
01:11:35.880 --> 01:11:38.800
<v Speaker 1>out of my body, and had me hovering above my

949
01:11:38.920 --> 01:11:43.680
<v Speaker 1>own body while they operated on me. So as a

950
01:11:43.760 --> 01:11:50.079
<v Speaker 1>small child, ah, I don't know if I had to

951
01:11:50.159 --> 01:11:57.119
<v Speaker 1>guess maybe tennish eleven for the surgery, but as I

952
01:11:57.319 --> 01:12:01.000
<v Speaker 1>was hovering over my body watching the doctors do what

953
01:12:01.439 --> 01:12:08.319
<v Speaker 1>they were doing, there were three dark principalities behind them,

954
01:12:09.039 --> 01:12:12.119
<v Speaker 1>telling them what to do to my body, and they

955
01:12:12.159 --> 01:12:16.640
<v Speaker 1>were doing it. So there was also that aspect too

956
01:12:18.520 --> 01:12:22.239
<v Speaker 1>where I had to go through those surgical enhancements. But

957
01:12:22.359 --> 01:12:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I was also chipped and implanted. I believe I have

958
01:12:28.039 --> 01:12:31.720
<v Speaker 1>a chip somewhere in the front of my head, but

959
01:12:31.920 --> 01:12:35.119
<v Speaker 1>also I have another one. I remember them putting this

960
01:12:35.279 --> 01:12:39.359
<v Speaker 1>one in. I was in my early twenties and it

961
01:12:39.479 --> 01:12:44.119
<v Speaker 1>felt like a UFC fighter mangled me. I hurt for

962
01:12:44.199 --> 01:12:47.960
<v Speaker 1>a week. But basically, Black Operations came into my home,

963
01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:51.520
<v Speaker 1>took me out, threw me in the trunk of a car.

964
01:12:53.199 --> 01:12:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to track where they were going, but

965
01:12:56.119 --> 01:12:59.079
<v Speaker 1>then I lost because they went somewhere I was not

966
01:12:59.279 --> 01:13:03.079
<v Speaker 1>familiar with. But anyway, when they opened the trunk of

967
01:13:03.119 --> 01:13:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the car, they tried to fake an alien invasion. There

968
01:13:06.640 --> 01:13:10.560
<v Speaker 1>could have been an alien there, but they opened up

969
01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:12.920
<v Speaker 1>the trunk of the car and I just remember them

970
01:13:14.079 --> 01:13:17.800
<v Speaker 1>putting in the implant behind my right ear. But it's

971
01:13:18.399 --> 01:13:23.239
<v Speaker 1>inside my skull, so inside up and behind the right ear.

972
01:13:24.039 --> 01:13:28.439
<v Speaker 1>That hurt. That hurt for a long time. I'm sorry,

973
01:13:28.560 --> 01:13:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean to jump around, Sean. Uh, I'm joining

974
01:13:32.840 --> 01:13:33.199
<v Speaker 1>a blank.

975
01:13:34.039 --> 01:13:36.600
<v Speaker 4>No, You're absolutely fine. You're doing You're doing great. We've

976
01:13:36.640 --> 01:13:38.359
<v Speaker 4>got tons of your questions that come in for you.

977
01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:41.680
<v Speaker 3>We are, we are, we are going to get to them. Uh.

978
01:13:41.760 --> 01:13:44.600
<v Speaker 4>And if you want to support Holly, we go over

979
01:13:44.640 --> 01:13:48.720
<v Speaker 4>a thousand watching live. Holly's website link is in the

980
01:13:48.880 --> 01:13:51.680
<v Speaker 4>description and it's also in the live chat right now

981
01:13:51.720 --> 01:13:55.600
<v Speaker 4>as well. And please keep your questions coming in as well.

982
01:13:55.640 --> 01:13:59.439
<v Speaker 4>We will we will get all of those to Holly.

983
01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:00.319
<v Speaker 3>All right.

984
01:14:00.439 --> 01:14:02.560
<v Speaker 4>So Holly, you know we've got for the Charloge years

985
01:14:03.279 --> 01:14:08.560
<v Speaker 4>entric adulthood experience, continue what they've changed. So we are

986
01:14:08.600 --> 01:14:10.359
<v Speaker 4>we in your twenties yet your thirties?

987
01:14:10.399 --> 01:14:11.159
<v Speaker 3>Where are we at?

988
01:14:11.800 --> 01:14:15.000
<v Speaker 1>That's right? So the traumas and tortures and the s

989
01:14:15.239 --> 01:14:20.319
<v Speaker 1>transporting that eventually stopped and there became a point where

990
01:14:20.399 --> 01:14:25.159
<v Speaker 1>I was actually being sent out on assignments and missions.

991
01:14:25.279 --> 01:14:28.760
<v Speaker 1>So now that all that horrible stuff. I think I

992
01:14:28.920 --> 01:14:31.840
<v Speaker 1>was about eighteen years old and that's when I was

993
01:14:31.920 --> 01:14:36.560
<v Speaker 1>farmed out to Black Operations and they put me through

994
01:14:36.880 --> 01:14:40.000
<v Speaker 1>testing there. I remember they made me jump out of

995
01:14:40.079 --> 01:14:45.560
<v Speaker 1>a helicopter into the sea. They put me through testing

996
01:14:46.319 --> 01:14:48.720
<v Speaker 1>through that and the reason why, oh my gosh, that's

997
01:14:48.760 --> 01:14:51.199
<v Speaker 1>a funny story. That's one of the only funny stories

998
01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:54.000
<v Speaker 1>that I have, is when I was accepted on the

999
01:14:54.119 --> 01:14:58.319
<v Speaker 1>Project Seagate. So when I was eighteen, I was farmed

1000
01:14:58.319 --> 01:15:02.079
<v Speaker 1>out to Black Operations and then I went because prior

1001
01:15:02.279 --> 01:15:06.000
<v Speaker 1>growing up as a child, I was put through Project Ibis,

1002
01:15:06.680 --> 01:15:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Project Mannequin looking Glass. I think looking Glass was in

1003
01:15:12.319 --> 01:15:16.000
<v Speaker 1>my twenties. I had gone through mom talk in my

1004
01:15:16.199 --> 01:15:21.079
<v Speaker 1>early teenage years. I believe I remember begging Preston Nichols

1005
01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:28.079
<v Speaker 1>for my life but he wasn't into girls. He so

1006
01:15:28.279 --> 01:15:34.279
<v Speaker 1>now I'm losing tracks. So I gone through Ibis, Mannequin, Alpha, Beta, Delta, Gamma.

1007
01:15:34.439 --> 01:15:37.239
<v Speaker 1>They have an mk Ultra project for every letter of

1008
01:15:37.319 --> 01:15:40.760
<v Speaker 1>the Greek alphabet, and since I was born into this,

1009
01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I pretty much went through the whole gamut of them.

1010
01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:49.960
<v Speaker 1>But Seagate was I have a couple of funny stories

1011
01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:53.720
<v Speaker 1>and that's like the only like silver lining to this

1012
01:15:54.359 --> 01:15:59.439
<v Speaker 1>dark cloud. But when I was going onto Project Seagate,

1013
01:15:59.479 --> 01:16:03.560
<v Speaker 1>they put me through testing. And on this one test

1014
01:16:03.640 --> 01:16:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I had, I was expected to jump out of a helicopter.

1015
01:16:07.039 --> 01:16:10.840
<v Speaker 1>So I remember boarding with my programmer, with my handler

1016
01:16:10.920 --> 01:16:13.720
<v Speaker 1>at the time, and sitting across from me and the

1017
01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:17.960
<v Speaker 1>helicopter was two older gentlemen and then a younger guy.

1018
01:16:18.840 --> 01:16:22.119
<v Speaker 1>I thought the two older gentlemen were the men that

1019
01:16:22.239 --> 01:16:27.359
<v Speaker 1>you used salute to, you know, the top guys. So well, anyway,

1020
01:16:27.600 --> 01:16:30.399
<v Speaker 1>I was on the helicopter ride, and since I thought

1021
01:16:30.439 --> 01:16:33.760
<v Speaker 1>the older men were the important top guys, I spoke

1022
01:16:33.800 --> 01:16:36.399
<v Speaker 1>to the younger guy, who I thought was like a janitor,

1023
01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, just secretary whatever. So I'm nervous, so I

1024
01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:44.760
<v Speaker 1>start joking around with him. I'm like, do you have

1025
01:16:44.880 --> 01:16:45.399
<v Speaker 1>some drama?

1026
01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Me.

1027
01:16:46.600 --> 01:16:50.479
<v Speaker 1>He's like no. I was like, oh, good luck getting

1028
01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:54.319
<v Speaker 1>me out of this point. We're gonna have problems, and

1029
01:16:54.439 --> 01:16:58.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm both I'm just busting with them, but deep down inside,

1030
01:16:58.159 --> 01:17:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I was terrified because I always hate did that sinking

1031
01:17:00.920 --> 01:17:04.720
<v Speaker 1>feeling in my stomach, and I conveyed that to him,

1032
01:17:05.359 --> 01:17:07.279
<v Speaker 1>and he goes, when you got to jump out of

1033
01:17:07.279 --> 01:17:10.399
<v Speaker 1>the helicopter. I'll never forget this because then I could

1034
01:17:10.439 --> 01:17:14.239
<v Speaker 1>write it rollercoasters. After he taught me this, and I

1035
01:17:14.319 --> 01:17:17.640
<v Speaker 1>could never do that. He goes, when you jump out

1036
01:17:17.680 --> 01:17:22.520
<v Speaker 1>of the helicopter, breathe like exhale, like you're exhaling through

1037
01:17:22.760 --> 01:17:25.600
<v Speaker 1>like a coffee straw, one of those tiny coffee straws.

1038
01:17:25.960 --> 01:17:30.800
<v Speaker 1>He goes, control your breathing and that sinking feeling should

1039
01:17:30.840 --> 01:17:36.319
<v Speaker 1>go away. So it came time. The light goes off.

1040
01:17:36.439 --> 01:17:40.119
<v Speaker 1>The pilot's saying, ready, I see my handler on his feet.

1041
01:17:40.279 --> 01:17:43.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm on my feet. The handler's going towards the door.

1042
01:17:44.039 --> 01:17:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I am one step behind him. But I see this

1043
01:17:47.960 --> 01:17:50.119
<v Speaker 1>young guy that I was just teasing get up and

1044
01:17:50.199 --> 01:17:52.159
<v Speaker 1>come towards me, like he's gonna help push me out

1045
01:17:52.199 --> 01:17:54.359
<v Speaker 1>of the plane. But I was only joking about that.

1046
01:17:56.600 --> 01:17:58.800
<v Speaker 1>I knew one way or another. I was going out

1047
01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:00.520
<v Speaker 1>that plane, so I was just going to suck it

1048
01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:03.640
<v Speaker 1>up and do myself. So as I'm following the handler

1049
01:18:03.960 --> 01:18:10.079
<v Speaker 1>out the helicopter, I tried to skirt around the younger

1050
01:18:10.199 --> 01:18:12.159
<v Speaker 1>guy because he reached out like he was going to

1051
01:18:12.239 --> 01:18:15.279
<v Speaker 1>help me get out, and I skirted around him, and

1052
01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:20.119
<v Speaker 1>I still followed my handler out the helicopter. I remember

1053
01:18:20.239 --> 01:18:24.119
<v Speaker 1>to control my breathing. Oh, it was such an easy time,

1054
01:18:24.439 --> 01:18:28.159
<v Speaker 1>and I hit the water, came back up. Everything was great,

1055
01:18:28.399 --> 01:18:32.640
<v Speaker 1>and I was accepted on the Seagate. But then there

1056
01:18:32.800 --> 01:18:35.840
<v Speaker 1>comes the other thing. Is when it finally came time

1057
01:18:35.920 --> 01:18:40.399
<v Speaker 1>for me to go to projects Seagate, that's when I

1058
01:18:40.560 --> 01:18:43.239
<v Speaker 1>found out that the younger guy was actually the team

1059
01:18:43.399 --> 01:18:47.279
<v Speaker 1>leader and I'd be working for him. If I knew that,

1060
01:18:47.640 --> 01:18:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I would have never said anything to him on the

1061
01:18:50.000 --> 01:18:55.079
<v Speaker 1>helicopter that I said. But Negate was kind of fun.

1062
01:18:55.199 --> 01:18:57.000
<v Speaker 1>We walked through the gates.

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01:18:57.520 --> 01:19:02.119
<v Speaker 3>So well, you said that they sent you on missions.

1064
01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:03.359
<v Speaker 3>Could you describe a mission.

1065
01:19:04.640 --> 01:19:08.239
<v Speaker 1>We were sent on a raw child assassination attempt. That

1066
01:19:08.359 --> 01:19:14.560
<v Speaker 1>would be a mission or assignment. I was sent out

1067
01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:21.239
<v Speaker 1>four different combat situations. I was sent out to Africa,

1068
01:19:21.640 --> 01:19:26.279
<v Speaker 1>and I have memories of being used as a sniper,

1069
01:19:26.840 --> 01:19:33.319
<v Speaker 1>shooting people as they ran across this one field. So

1070
01:19:34.520 --> 01:19:39.439
<v Speaker 1>being used as an assassin or an agent spying on

1071
01:19:39.600 --> 01:19:43.359
<v Speaker 1>someone to get information. But I was sent down to

1072
01:19:43.479 --> 01:19:46.279
<v Speaker 1>the jungle. Another mission or assignment was I was sent

1073
01:19:46.399 --> 01:19:50.039
<v Speaker 1>down to the jungle, and as fantastical as it sounds,

1074
01:19:51.439 --> 01:19:54.279
<v Speaker 1>things like Bigfoot are real, and I was sent down

1075
01:19:54.359 --> 01:19:57.720
<v Speaker 1>with the Black Operations team to get rid of things

1076
01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:00.960
<v Speaker 1>that I personally believe do not belong here on earth.

1077
01:20:02.199 --> 01:20:07.000
<v Speaker 1>This one entity, for lack of better terms to explain it,

1078
01:20:07.119 --> 01:20:09.840
<v Speaker 1>it kind of looked like that thing in the movie

1079
01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Predator Alien from that eighties movie that goes invisible, and

1080
01:20:15.960 --> 01:20:18.399
<v Speaker 1>we were sent down. I guess it would be classified

1081
01:20:18.439 --> 01:20:21.720
<v Speaker 1>as a reptilian or certain kind of reptilian. I'm not sure,

1082
01:20:22.479 --> 01:20:29.640
<v Speaker 1>but I remember jungle warfare and engaging these entities. I

1083
01:20:29.720 --> 01:20:31.800
<v Speaker 1>hope that helps if that makes sense.

1084
01:20:32.680 --> 01:20:35.079
<v Speaker 3>Would were you in the super Soldier program? Then?

1085
01:20:35.680 --> 01:20:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I was born into it. Yes, so that's fine.

1086
01:20:39.960 --> 01:20:42.439
<v Speaker 4>So what they have classified you as as an MK

1087
01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:43.479
<v Speaker 4>Ultra super Soldier?

1088
01:20:44.279 --> 01:20:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, And I remember when I was three years

1089
01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:53.760
<v Speaker 1>old them telling us we're turning you into super soldiers.

1090
01:20:53.800 --> 01:20:56.640
<v Speaker 1>We're going to turn you into a myth. I just

1091
01:20:56.840 --> 01:21:00.560
<v Speaker 1>at that age, I didn't understand what was happening to me. Also,

1092
01:21:01.720 --> 01:21:06.000
<v Speaker 1>when I was younger, I was transported through places like

1093
01:21:06.680 --> 01:21:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Buckingham Palace, Castle Amoro and Belgium that you know as

1094
01:21:10.760 --> 01:21:14.079
<v Speaker 1>Mothers of Darkness Castle, and I was put through human

1095
01:21:16.279 --> 01:21:18.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm allowed to say these words

1096
01:21:19.640 --> 01:21:26.920
<v Speaker 1>hunting parties. Also I was transported through Buckingham Palace, I'm sorry,

1097
01:21:27.520 --> 01:21:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Bohemian Grove. That was pretty cruel what they did there.

1098
01:21:32.600 --> 01:21:34.640
<v Speaker 1>They told me to take the kids and run, and

1099
01:21:34.720 --> 01:21:38.520
<v Speaker 1>if I could get away, I could get away. I

1100
01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:41.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't know they owned the whole entire mountain. I had

1101
01:21:41.760 --> 01:21:44.479
<v Speaker 1>no idea. I thought me and the kids ran as

1102
01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:48.800
<v Speaker 1>far as we could run, and I saw a house

1103
01:21:48.920 --> 01:21:50.600
<v Speaker 1>where I thought I could get in and get to

1104
01:21:50.720 --> 01:21:53.399
<v Speaker 1>the phone and call for help. And I think I

1105
01:21:53.560 --> 01:21:56.560
<v Speaker 1>was about nine years old because I remember thinking about

1106
01:21:56.600 --> 01:22:00.640
<v Speaker 1>my stepdad. And my stepdad came in to my life

1107
01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:02.840
<v Speaker 1>when I was eight years old, and he married my

1108
01:22:02.960 --> 01:22:05.640
<v Speaker 1>mom when I was nine, and then they had my

1109
01:22:05.800 --> 01:22:09.000
<v Speaker 1>sister when I was eleven. So I remember thinking about

1110
01:22:09.039 --> 01:22:11.760
<v Speaker 1>my stepdad and calling him and maybe he'll believe me,

1111
01:22:13.920 --> 01:22:15.960
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know the phone number to the police,

1112
01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:19.079
<v Speaker 1>because back then we didn't have nine one one, but

1113
01:22:19.199 --> 01:22:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I knew my home phone number, and just as I

1114
01:22:25.840 --> 01:22:27.720
<v Speaker 1>went to pick up the phone a call for help.

1115
01:22:28.159 --> 01:22:32.359
<v Speaker 1>These adults came out of the rooms, opened up the doors,

1116
01:22:32.479 --> 01:22:35.760
<v Speaker 1>came out and started laughing and teasing me, saying, ha ha,

1117
01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:39.119
<v Speaker 1>you thought you got away. The kids are coming with us.

1118
01:22:39.760 --> 01:22:46.720
<v Speaker 1>And I never saw those kids again. Fuckingham Palace was

1119
01:22:46.920 --> 01:22:50.479
<v Speaker 1>very difficult because I was so young. I kept looking

1120
01:22:50.560 --> 01:22:55.600
<v Speaker 1>at we were chained up, and I remember this man

1121
01:22:55.680 --> 01:23:00.680
<v Speaker 1>and woman beating on the kids. They were doing the torture.

1122
01:23:00.880 --> 01:23:03.439
<v Speaker 1>Was this man and woman, and there was this girl

1123
01:23:03.560 --> 01:23:06.079
<v Speaker 1>chained up, a young girl chained up next to me,

1124
01:23:06.199 --> 01:23:10.600
<v Speaker 1>and I kept asking her what are they saying? What's happening?

1125
01:23:10.720 --> 01:23:13.439
<v Speaker 1>Because to me they were speaking another language and what

1126
01:23:13.680 --> 01:23:19.399
<v Speaker 1>was happening. I was going through severe denial. They had

1127
01:23:19.439 --> 01:23:22.760
<v Speaker 1>placed the drugs in the food, so you didn't want

1128
01:23:22.800 --> 01:23:24.960
<v Speaker 1>to eat the food because you knew drugs were in there.

1129
01:23:27.840 --> 01:23:33.640
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, so forgive me. But we were put through

1130
01:23:33.640 --> 01:23:40.199
<v Speaker 1>a human hunting party there and at Castle Ameroy Mothers

1131
01:23:40.239 --> 01:23:43.520
<v Speaker 1>of Darkness, that's where they have the thousand Points of Light.

1132
01:23:44.560 --> 01:23:45.119
<v Speaker 2>And I have.

1133
01:23:47.000 --> 01:23:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Fragmented memories. So I have a memory of these witches

1134
01:23:50.880 --> 01:23:55.560
<v Speaker 1>going from a building to another building to do a sacrifice.

1135
01:23:55.600 --> 01:24:01.359
<v Speaker 1>But I also remember being inside the castle itself and

1136
01:24:01.840 --> 01:24:06.399
<v Speaker 1>they I don't think I was ever. I don't know.

1137
01:24:06.520 --> 01:24:08.479
<v Speaker 1>But the thousand points of Light, what it is is

1138
01:24:08.560 --> 01:24:14.760
<v Speaker 1>those mothers of darkness. They they they do something and

1139
01:24:15.079 --> 01:24:18.399
<v Speaker 1>they summon down their their powers, the things that they

1140
01:24:18.560 --> 01:24:21.079
<v Speaker 1>believe in. And I guess what happens is because of

1141
01:24:21.159 --> 01:24:24.560
<v Speaker 1>the arches in the castle, there's like a thousand points

1142
01:24:24.720 --> 01:24:28.279
<v Speaker 1>that light up, and this entity is what decides our

1143
01:24:28.359 --> 01:24:32.039
<v Speaker 1>world's affairs or something like that. So that's what that

1144
01:24:32.199 --> 01:24:35.520
<v Speaker 1>thousand points of light is is, because I think the entity,

1145
01:24:35.720 --> 01:24:38.439
<v Speaker 1>once it's there, there's like the whole ceiling lights up

1146
01:24:38.640 --> 01:24:43.880
<v Speaker 1>in all these little points. But it's all about power,

1147
01:24:44.319 --> 01:24:48.439
<v Speaker 1>and you know, so there's a lot of s R.

1148
01:24:48.640 --> 01:24:51.039
<v Speaker 1>And I'm so sorry, Sean, because I'm trying my hardest

1149
01:24:51.119 --> 01:24:53.640
<v Speaker 1>to remember the list of words I should not say,

1150
01:24:53.880 --> 01:24:55.359
<v Speaker 1>and you do.

1151
01:24:55.399 --> 01:24:59.359
<v Speaker 4>It absolutely brilliant, and you know, i'd be describing these things.

1152
01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:03.359
<v Speaker 4>What's coming into my mind is David Night. He talks

1153
01:25:03.399 --> 01:25:07.319
<v Speaker 4>about how you know the political class, it's an illusion

1154
01:25:07.359 --> 01:25:10.560
<v Speaker 4>of choice and when you go higher up into the

1155
01:25:10.640 --> 01:25:16.159
<v Speaker 4>power structure, you get to this demonic entity level, which

1156
01:25:16.199 --> 01:25:19.960
<v Speaker 4>is exactly what you are describing, which you know it

1157
01:25:20.079 --> 01:25:23.239
<v Speaker 4>confirms what he's been talking about for decades.

1158
01:25:24.239 --> 01:25:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's right about it. I experienced it. I actually

1159
01:25:28.359 --> 01:25:34.199
<v Speaker 1>wrote a letter to Fritz Springmeyer back in twenty sixteen

1160
01:25:34.359 --> 01:25:36.680
<v Speaker 1>because I got my hands on his book, and I

1161
01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:39.319
<v Speaker 1>want to read it again now that I'm fully healed.

1162
01:25:39.960 --> 01:25:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I want to read it again because when he was

1163
01:25:43.039 --> 01:25:47.359
<v Speaker 1>talking about how Mangli there was a method to Mangle's madness,

1164
01:25:47.600 --> 01:25:50.800
<v Speaker 1>and he's going through it talking about what was happening.

1165
01:25:51.079 --> 01:25:55.359
<v Speaker 1>Wrote I wrote to him. I said, that book it's

1166
01:25:55.399 --> 01:25:59.560
<v Speaker 1>something to the effect of illuminatis handbook to or hand

1167
01:25:59.640 --> 01:26:05.039
<v Speaker 1>guide of creating the ultimate undetectable mind control slave. I

1168
01:26:05.159 --> 01:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>wrote to them and I said, I think I'm one

1169
01:26:06.840 --> 01:26:08.920
<v Speaker 1>of the kids that you wrote about in this book,

1170
01:26:09.880 --> 01:26:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Like thank you for writing it. Like so this way

1171
01:26:12.920 --> 01:26:18.439
<v Speaker 1>I know what happened to me and why. Like I

1172
01:26:18.520 --> 01:26:20.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know that I'll ever understand why, but at least

1173
01:26:20.920 --> 01:26:22.920
<v Speaker 1>they'll know what happened to me. Some of this will

1174
01:26:22.960 --> 01:26:23.880
<v Speaker 1>start to make sense.

1175
01:26:25.279 --> 01:26:28.680
<v Speaker 2>So I'm just kind of kicking back listening to this.

1176
01:26:29.039 --> 01:26:33.399
<v Speaker 2>It's thoroughly entertaining in my opinion, but a lot of

1177
01:26:33.479 --> 01:26:38.800
<v Speaker 2>red flags. I mean, the woman looks transgendered to me,

1178
01:26:39.079 --> 01:26:44.760
<v Speaker 2>definitely sounds like it. She said they mixed a rothschild

1179
01:26:44.960 --> 01:26:48.920
<v Speaker 2>and and a Knaki and her mom and dad. I

1180
01:26:48.960 --> 01:26:52.239
<v Speaker 2>don't know what her mom and dad looks like, but damn, okay,

1181
01:26:52.359 --> 01:26:58.119
<v Speaker 2>this this woman looks like she's ready for the Pride Parade.

1182
01:26:58.359 --> 01:27:03.880
<v Speaker 2>I I don't know. She's got overtly masculine features and

1183
01:27:04.279 --> 01:27:09.600
<v Speaker 2>some feminine features. She's talking about she wanted to reach

1184
01:27:09.640 --> 01:27:12.800
<v Speaker 2>out to Fritz Springmyer, which up until JJ told me

1185
01:27:12.960 --> 01:27:17.199
<v Speaker 2>he was CIA. I really liked Fritz Springmyer. But with

1186
01:27:17.359 --> 01:27:21.920
<v Speaker 2>all of her background, shouldn't she know that Fritz's CIA

1187
01:27:23.680 --> 01:27:24.199
<v Speaker 2>red flag?

1188
01:27:24.279 --> 01:27:24.439
<v Speaker 3>To me?

1189
01:27:25.199 --> 01:27:30.279
<v Speaker 2>She did it'ch her nose like this when she was

1190
01:27:30.359 --> 01:27:35.560
<v Speaker 2>talking about the Mothers of Darkness Castle And I don't

1191
01:27:35.560 --> 01:27:37.279
<v Speaker 2>know if you guys have ever looked into it, but

1192
01:27:37.560 --> 01:27:39.640
<v Speaker 2>there was a time in my life where I got

1193
01:27:39.720 --> 01:27:43.199
<v Speaker 2>really obsessed with this show called Lie to Me, and

1194
01:27:43.319 --> 01:27:46.800
<v Speaker 2>then I did like a bunch of independent research, if

1195
01:27:46.840 --> 01:27:52.479
<v Speaker 2>you will, on the cues people tend to subconsciously do

1196
01:27:52.640 --> 01:27:55.640
<v Speaker 2>when they're lying, and itch in your nose like that

1197
01:27:56.119 --> 01:28:01.680
<v Speaker 2>is one of the major hallmark. It can also mean

1198
01:28:01.760 --> 01:28:08.439
<v Speaker 2>you're extremely nervous. But I don't know. It's just like

1199
01:28:08.520 --> 01:28:12.439
<v Speaker 2>one of those red flag moments where she hasn't echt

1200
01:28:12.520 --> 01:28:16.159
<v Speaker 2>or knows the entire interview until it gets to the

1201
01:28:16.239 --> 01:28:20.920
<v Speaker 2>mothers of Darkness, and it's almost like she's regurgitating information

1202
01:28:21.119 --> 01:28:25.039
<v Speaker 2>that she heard on like podcasts and stuff, and now

1203
01:28:25.119 --> 01:28:27.800
<v Speaker 2>she's talking about that she likes Fritz Springmeyer. If you

1204
01:28:27.880 --> 01:28:30.960
<v Speaker 2>were in all these projects and New Mangla and all

1205
01:28:31.079 --> 01:28:35.319
<v Speaker 2>this stuff, wouldn't you know that Fritz is Cia, Like,

1206
01:28:35.399 --> 01:28:37.800
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't you know that? Maybe you wouldn't. I don't know.

1207
01:28:38.399 --> 01:28:43.079
<v Speaker 2>But she looks like she got mixed up in a

1208
01:28:43.239 --> 01:28:46.880
<v Speaker 2>DNA pool. Okay, And that's not to say, like to

1209
01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:49.720
<v Speaker 2>make fun of her physical appearance, but I kind of

1210
01:28:49.760 --> 01:28:54.279
<v Speaker 2>believe the bitch because she looked crazy. She look hybrid

1211
01:28:54.560 --> 01:29:00.880
<v Speaker 2>of something, and she sounds again it could just be

1212
01:29:01.000 --> 01:29:04.039
<v Speaker 2>all the camels, but there also could be something more

1213
01:29:04.119 --> 01:29:08.199
<v Speaker 2>going on. Let's continue with the interview and see what

1214
01:29:08.319 --> 01:29:09.439
<v Speaker 2>else she's got to say.

1215
01:29:12.079 --> 01:29:15.760
<v Speaker 4>All right, so we've gone from the childhood into adulthood.

1216
01:29:16.640 --> 01:29:20.239
<v Speaker 4>Does this does the experiments continue beyond what you've described

1217
01:29:20.359 --> 01:29:21.880
<v Speaker 4>or we get into the point in your life.

1218
01:29:22.279 --> 01:29:24.439
<v Speaker 3>Well, you get out of the experiments.

1219
01:29:25.239 --> 01:29:28.479
<v Speaker 1>The experiment stopped in my teenage years. So when I

1220
01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:33.039
<v Speaker 1>was eighteen years old and farmed out to Project Seagate, Yeah,

1221
01:29:33.279 --> 01:29:36.039
<v Speaker 1>the trauma and torture, all that was done and over with.

1222
01:29:37.039 --> 01:29:40.439
<v Speaker 1>Now I was just being used for whatever they wanted

1223
01:29:40.479 --> 01:29:42.760
<v Speaker 1>to use me for. And I just want to say

1224
01:29:42.800 --> 01:29:46.800
<v Speaker 1>that I only have one third of my memories. I

1225
01:29:47.000 --> 01:29:55.039
<v Speaker 1>was decommissioned. So when Mangli let me go, he decommissioned me.

1226
01:29:55.439 --> 01:30:00.399
<v Speaker 1>So I'm missing a lot. I'm grateful for them memories

1227
01:30:00.479 --> 01:30:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I do have, and still at times the memories do

1228
01:30:03.119 --> 01:30:07.119
<v Speaker 1>come back. It was only in twenty fourteen where I

1229
01:30:07.159 --> 01:30:10.319
<v Speaker 1>had a flash flood of memories and I lost it.

1230
01:30:10.520 --> 01:30:15.119
<v Speaker 1>I wound up running through a neighborhood naked reenacting human

1231
01:30:15.199 --> 01:30:17.439
<v Speaker 1>hunting parties that I had been put through. So my

1232
01:30:17.560 --> 01:30:21.359
<v Speaker 1>awakening was pretty brutal. I fell to pieces. I lost

1233
01:30:21.399 --> 01:30:24.600
<v Speaker 1>the ability to talk for ten months because I was

1234
01:30:24.680 --> 01:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>in such shock. Like everybody always said, Oh, it's all

1235
01:30:29.039 --> 01:30:32.079
<v Speaker 1>in your head. Oh it's a nightmare, and meanwhile, no,

1236
01:30:33.000 --> 01:30:36.600
<v Speaker 1>all of that's real, that really really happened, you know,

1237
01:30:36.880 --> 01:30:38.600
<v Speaker 1>So freaking.

1238
01:30:38.479 --> 01:30:42.640
<v Speaker 4>Paully, how many years were you in MK? Ultra experiments

1239
01:30:42.760 --> 01:30:46.399
<v Speaker 4>and how many years were you on Super Soldier missions?

1240
01:30:48.279 --> 01:30:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I was born into it I consider myself

1241
01:30:52.720 --> 01:30:55.039
<v Speaker 1>being a part of it for thirty seven years. I

1242
01:30:55.159 --> 01:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>woke up in twenty fourteen. So when I woke up

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<v Speaker 1>December in fourteen, that's when I had a clear choice

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01:31:02.760 --> 01:31:05.399
<v Speaker 1>what do I want to do? And I chose to

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<v Speaker 1>get out and stay out by all means necessary.

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<v Speaker 4>Would you say for those thirty something years and half

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01:31:13.439 --> 01:31:16.039
<v Speaker 4>of that was experiments and half of that was Super Soldier.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. By the time I was eighteen, they were fully

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01:31:20.760 --> 01:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>using me for assignments and missions. So from the time

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01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:30.279
<v Speaker 1>I was born until about thirteen fourteen years old, I

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01:31:30.399 --> 01:31:34.760
<v Speaker 1>think about fourteen fifteen, that's when the training and programming stopped,

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01:31:34.800 --> 01:31:37.760
<v Speaker 1>and then they started sending US kids out and using us.

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01:31:39.119 --> 01:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you were decommissioned, how did your life change?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't wake up. I was decommissioned, and I didn't

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01:31:52.239 --> 01:31:55.239
<v Speaker 1>wake up. I was on so many prescription medications for

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01:31:55.439 --> 01:31:58.199
<v Speaker 1>my disabilities that there was no way for me to

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01:31:58.239 --> 01:32:02.600
<v Speaker 1>wake up. So what ended up happening. I was decommissioned

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and eight. What ended up happening? Was

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01:32:06.279 --> 01:32:09.359
<v Speaker 1>December twenty and eleven. I flew from New Jersey out

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<v Speaker 1>to Denver, Colorado, because I was going to move out

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01:32:11.960 --> 01:32:15.680
<v Speaker 1>to Colorado. So I went out there to visit a

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01:32:15.760 --> 01:32:18.720
<v Speaker 1>former boss from AT and T but also one of

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01:32:18.800 --> 01:32:22.159
<v Speaker 1>my best friends. And about three days into my trip,

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01:32:23.079 --> 01:32:25.920
<v Speaker 1>I was at Hooters bar and when I got up

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01:32:26.039 --> 01:32:30.600
<v Speaker 1>to is the ladies room, I was approached by three. Well,

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01:32:30.640 --> 01:32:34.239
<v Speaker 1>I was approached by at the time, just one super soldier,

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01:32:34.319 --> 01:32:37.399
<v Speaker 1>but when he held out his hand to introduce himself

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01:32:37.479 --> 01:32:40.960
<v Speaker 1>to shake my hand, he had scopolamine on his hand,

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01:32:41.640 --> 01:32:46.159
<v Speaker 1>so instantly I was scoped and compliant. I wound up

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01:32:46.239 --> 01:32:51.159
<v Speaker 1>following him into the men's room and there stood two

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01:32:51.239 --> 01:32:55.720
<v Speaker 1>other super soldiers and the first I'm keeping this short.

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01:32:55.800 --> 01:32:56.680
<v Speaker 1>This is all in my ow.

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01:32:56.760 --> 01:33:00.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, we we like long stories, don't I'm sure.

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01:33:01.680 --> 01:33:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, this is a good story. I'll try to keep

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01:33:03.720 --> 01:33:07.720
<v Speaker 1>it g rated on the internet, but my book be prepared.

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01:33:07.760 --> 01:33:10.760
<v Speaker 1>There's some details I'm leaving out. But anyway, so I

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01:33:10.880 --> 01:33:14.479
<v Speaker 1>followed him into the men's room, and when I walked

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01:33:14.520 --> 01:33:17.039
<v Speaker 1>in there there were two guys standing at the sink

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01:33:17.199 --> 01:33:19.960
<v Speaker 1>with black leather jackets, dark hair, and they had their

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01:33:20.039 --> 01:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>backs to me. And when I looked in the mirror,

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01:33:22.800 --> 01:33:25.319
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't see their face the way they were angled.

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01:33:25.840 --> 01:33:29.439
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, this blonde aired man dressed to the nines,

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01:33:29.680 --> 01:33:36.279
<v Speaker 1>very polite, he says, don't you remember me, Holly? And

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01:33:36.399 --> 01:33:40.880
<v Speaker 1>at the time, at the time, well, I think these

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01:33:40.960 --> 01:33:44.199
<v Speaker 1>three super soldiers were trying to regress me. But at first, no,

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01:33:44.439 --> 01:33:47.399
<v Speaker 1>I did not recognize him. The blonde aired man that

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01:33:47.520 --> 01:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I followed into the bathroom was the same boy that

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01:33:51.000 --> 01:33:53.840
<v Speaker 1>when I was a little kid we were chained in

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01:33:53.960 --> 01:33:56.359
<v Speaker 1>the cage. And he took his hand and put it

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01:33:56.439 --> 01:34:00.319
<v Speaker 1>on mine and he said, Holly, bow your head to

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01:34:00.479 --> 01:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>this thing. I think it was allegedly from Queen Elizabeth's klan.

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01:34:05.000 --> 01:34:07.359
<v Speaker 1>I think it was her. But he said, bow your

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01:34:07.479 --> 01:34:11.199
<v Speaker 1>head the way the slaves bowed to the Egyptians. And

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01:34:11.399 --> 01:34:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad he did so that way. You know, I

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01:34:13.920 --> 01:34:18.359
<v Speaker 1>still have my head, it wasn't chopped off. But so

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01:34:18.640 --> 01:34:22.319
<v Speaker 1>he was the first little boy that I made connection

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01:34:22.520 --> 01:34:25.880
<v Speaker 1>with in the dumbs. And as I stood there talking

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01:34:25.960 --> 01:34:28.199
<v Speaker 1>to him, he said to me, don't you remember me?

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01:34:28.880 --> 01:34:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Don't you remember the other kids? Don't you remember the cages?

1302
01:34:32.399 --> 01:34:37.840
<v Speaker 1>And a second dark haired man turned around from the sink.

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01:34:38.399 --> 01:34:41.319
<v Speaker 1>He gave me a big shot in my arm. It

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01:34:41.479 --> 01:34:46.159
<v Speaker 1>looked like you know what military soldiers get before they're

1305
01:34:46.159 --> 01:34:51.359
<v Speaker 1>sent overseas, that big fat, milk looking, milky looking the

1306
01:34:51.479 --> 01:34:54.720
<v Speaker 1>guy turned around and gave me one of those shots,

1307
01:34:55.039 --> 01:34:57.920
<v Speaker 1>and I thought I recognized him off the bat. He

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01:34:58.119 --> 01:35:00.880
<v Speaker 1>was another little boy from the cages, and I think

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01:35:01.680 --> 01:35:04.520
<v Speaker 1>a boy that I had gone through Project Beta with.

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01:35:05.159 --> 01:35:07.720
<v Speaker 1>And since I was born into these projects, I didn't

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01:35:07.760 --> 01:35:11.600
<v Speaker 1>go through Project Monarch. I went through Project Beta, which

1312
01:35:11.720 --> 01:35:17.640
<v Speaker 1>is similar to Monarch, a little bit different similar. So

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01:35:18.319 --> 01:35:23.279
<v Speaker 1>I remember that boy from Project Beta. Well, then the

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01:35:23.399 --> 01:35:28.279
<v Speaker 1>third one turned around, and the third one, ah, how

1315
01:35:28.319 --> 01:35:31.119
<v Speaker 1>do I say this? Apparently, when I was a super soldier,

1316
01:35:31.279 --> 01:35:35.119
<v Speaker 1>I was romantically involved with somebody. So the third one

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01:35:35.199 --> 01:35:40.840
<v Speaker 1>that turned around, so as I talked to the blonde

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01:35:40.880 --> 01:35:43.000
<v Speaker 1>haired boy and he's trying to regress me and say,

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01:35:43.079 --> 01:35:45.880
<v Speaker 1>do you remember do you remember? He had asked me

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01:35:46.760 --> 01:35:51.359
<v Speaker 1>about my life and I told him, you know, about

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01:35:51.520 --> 01:35:54.119
<v Speaker 1>wretched relationships that I had had, and that I had

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01:35:54.159 --> 01:35:57.359
<v Speaker 1>been strangled to death on my kitchen floor by one

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01:35:57.479 --> 01:35:59.880
<v Speaker 1>of Oh geez, here we go. I forgot about the

1324
01:36:00.079 --> 01:36:06.359
<v Speaker 1>list of words. So I'm still alive, Okay, so, but

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01:36:06.479 --> 01:36:10.199
<v Speaker 1>anyway I went, I went through some harrowing experiences, and

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01:36:11.199 --> 01:36:17.720
<v Speaker 1>in my death experience, I was brought back and I

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01:36:17.880 --> 01:36:22.399
<v Speaker 1>was resurrected, and that made me start to seek out

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01:36:22.479 --> 01:36:25.600
<v Speaker 1>my creator and knock on my Creator's door and see

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01:36:25.640 --> 01:36:27.399
<v Speaker 1>if he would open it like he said he would.

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01:36:28.199 --> 01:36:36.560
<v Speaker 1>So I was telling these soldiers this, and when the

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01:36:36.760 --> 01:36:43.199
<v Speaker 1>third soldier turned around, in a jokester voice but condescending,

1332
01:36:43.359 --> 01:36:47.159
<v Speaker 1>he goes, well, if you love God so much, why

1333
01:36:47.239 --> 01:36:53.720
<v Speaker 1>don't you marry him? Well, not three years later when

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01:36:53.760 --> 01:36:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I actually did wake up and I did have the

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01:36:56.960 --> 01:37:00.520
<v Speaker 1>flash flood of memories when they're it took me three

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01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:04.279
<v Speaker 1>years and coming off the prescriptions in my normal life.

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01:37:04.319 --> 01:37:07.319
<v Speaker 1>But when I did have the flash flood of memories, yes,

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01:37:07.439 --> 01:37:09.840
<v Speaker 1>the first thing I did was run to my creator

1339
01:37:09.960 --> 01:37:12.279
<v Speaker 1>and hang on to him as tight as I could,

1340
01:37:12.760 --> 01:37:14.600
<v Speaker 1>because at that point he was the only one that

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01:37:14.680 --> 01:37:17.800
<v Speaker 1>could understand what I went through and who believed me

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01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:20.760
<v Speaker 1>and who would not put his back to me. So

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01:37:22.159 --> 01:37:24.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, I went to heaven Leambayhua.

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01:37:24.520 --> 01:37:26.199
<v Speaker 3>But so.

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01:37:28.840 --> 01:37:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Forgive me, I'm drawing a blank again, Sean.

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01:37:32.439 --> 01:37:35.359
<v Speaker 3>No, you're you're doing great, Holly. Did they leave you

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01:37:35.560 --> 01:37:36.880
<v Speaker 3>alone after that?

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01:37:37.720 --> 01:37:41.479
<v Speaker 1>Yes, The last time I've ever seen a super soldier

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01:37:41.600 --> 01:37:44.520
<v Speaker 1>face to face that I know of face to face

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01:37:44.600 --> 01:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>physically was December twenty and eleven, and I kind of

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01:37:49.239 --> 01:37:52.560
<v Speaker 1>actually consider that to be my official I'm out. I

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01:37:52.720 --> 01:37:56.000
<v Speaker 1>never have to deal with this again. I never have

1353
01:37:56.159 --> 01:37:59.079
<v Speaker 1>to see you guys again, so I better not see

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01:37:59.079 --> 01:37:59.720
<v Speaker 1>you guys again.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that's about all we need to hear

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01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:09.520
<v Speaker 2>from Holly. Thank you for your contribution in the SRA

1357
01:38:09.800 --> 01:38:16.720
<v Speaker 2>testimony scene. I'm struggling with a lot of this. Parts

1358
01:38:16.760 --> 01:38:19.479
<v Speaker 2>of it I think could be genuine parts of it.

1359
01:38:19.680 --> 01:38:23.439
<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, if you're gonna do interviews and

1360
01:38:23.520 --> 01:38:26.000
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna come out with stuff like this, why are

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01:38:26.039 --> 01:38:30.439
<v Speaker 2>you doing them when you're back with your backdrop a

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01:38:30.600 --> 01:38:36.600
<v Speaker 2>busted up closet, with your closet doors are off the

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01:38:36.800 --> 01:38:40.840
<v Speaker 2>track and there's bits and pieces missing. It looks like

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01:38:40.920 --> 01:38:44.359
<v Speaker 2>you're in a rundown crackhouse and you went on a

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01:38:44.640 --> 01:38:48.159
<v Speaker 2>spur of the moment trip to Colorado. These three super

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01:38:48.239 --> 01:38:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Soldiers just happened to know you was going to be

1367
01:38:50.920 --> 01:38:54.279
<v Speaker 2>in Colorado. They just happened to know you was gonna

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01:38:54.319 --> 01:38:57.800
<v Speaker 2>be your ass out of Hooters, and they decided to

1369
01:38:57.920 --> 01:39:02.239
<v Speaker 2>do this this clandestaing Hooter's attack on you in the

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01:39:02.359 --> 01:39:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Hooters bathroom with some type of milky fluid in a

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01:39:06.079 --> 01:39:10.960
<v Speaker 2>syringe and some don't you remember me stuff? Do you know? Like,

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01:39:11.159 --> 01:39:13.319
<v Speaker 2>first off, why would they get you when you went

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01:39:13.399 --> 01:39:15.920
<v Speaker 2>too Colorado if they know where the fuck you live

1374
01:39:16.039 --> 01:39:18.560
<v Speaker 2>and could get you at any time. They waited for

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01:39:18.680 --> 01:39:20.960
<v Speaker 2>you to go out of town on a trip to Colorado,

1376
01:39:21.640 --> 01:39:24.720
<v Speaker 2>and then they just waited for you to make plans

1377
01:39:24.800 --> 01:39:28.239
<v Speaker 2>to go to Hooters. They made plans to wait for

1378
01:39:28.399 --> 01:39:31.680
<v Speaker 2>you to go to Hooters, and then they put some

1379
01:39:31.880 --> 01:39:35.079
<v Speaker 2>kind of a drugged up handshake. What you say, I

1380
01:39:35.159 --> 01:39:39.159
<v Speaker 2>don't even remember, but yeah, so I'm struggling a little

1381
01:39:39.159 --> 01:39:43.159
<v Speaker 2>bit with that. You know, the bitch looks crazy. She

1382
01:39:43.319 --> 01:39:47.680
<v Speaker 2>needs to fix her closet doors. And I think I've

1383
01:39:47.760 --> 01:39:51.600
<v Speaker 2>heard just about all I need to hear from this testimony.

1384
01:39:52.319 --> 01:39:56.119
<v Speaker 2>But I do think that there are parts that could

1385
01:39:56.159 --> 01:39:58.840
<v Speaker 2>be true. Now, listen, this could be one of those

1386
01:39:58.920 --> 01:40:01.840
<v Speaker 2>ones where you get to the end of the story

1387
01:40:02.199 --> 01:40:06.840
<v Speaker 2>and you think, wow, that's probably based on some true

1388
01:40:06.880 --> 01:40:10.720
<v Speaker 2>shit like a Marvel movie. This could be her version

1389
01:40:10.800 --> 01:40:14.800
<v Speaker 2>of Captain America. You discern for yourself which parts you

1390
01:40:14.920 --> 01:40:19.840
<v Speaker 2>think are true. And what parts you think are BELONEI.

1391
01:40:20.600 --> 01:40:25.119
<v Speaker 2>But anyways, if Jay made it all the way to

1392
01:40:25.199 --> 01:40:28.239
<v Speaker 2>the end of this episode, you are a team player

1393
01:40:28.840 --> 01:40:32.880
<v Speaker 2>and you are a true fan of the Cosmic Peach podcast.

1394
01:40:33.760 --> 01:40:37.279
<v Speaker 2>But anyways, you guys, I love you. Take care of yourselves.

1395
01:40:38.319 --> 01:40:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Watch out for shape shifting royals who want to rape

1396
01:40:41.840 --> 01:40:45.640
<v Speaker 2>your bee hole because they are out there. But I

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01:40:45.760 --> 01:40:48.000
<v Speaker 2>hope you enjoyed this one. Let me know what you

1398
01:40:48.159 --> 01:40:52.680
<v Speaker 2>think and I will catch you on the next one.

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01:41:00.960 --> 01:41:08.199
<v Speaker 4>Raven hair and move the tips. Sparks fly from fame

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01:41:08.800 --> 01:41:15.439
<v Speaker 4>the tips and God voices him and that she's.

1401
01:41:15.199 --> 01:41:19.239
<v Speaker 2>A restless speard and on in the endless fight.

1402
01:41:22.840 --> 01:41:35.000
<v Speaker 1>With Jailwarm see how how she falls and Jaywarm she

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01:41:35.319 --> 01:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>got the known in lond