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<v Speaker 1>Hudson River Radio dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Travis Walton and you are listening to UFO Headquarters.

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<v Speaker 3>UFO Headquarters.

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<v Speaker 2>And welcome to our fans. Whether you're old fans, new fans,

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<v Speaker 2>or just accidentally stumbled upon our humble little show, we

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<v Speaker 2>welcome you to another fascinating episode of UFO Headquarters and

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<v Speaker 2>just a few things here. Our audience is growing, and

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<v Speaker 2>your friends, your family, and to anybody else that's into

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<v Speaker 2>UFOs of the subject of you know, uap s UFOs.

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<v Speaker 2>We would love to reach more people and hear their

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<v Speaker 2>stories eventually and help us grow the channel.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they're reluctant, hold them down and make them listen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, you can do that. Like it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>subscribe to them on any podcast format that you'd like.

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<v Speaker 2>So I did want to mention that our last two episodes,

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<v Speaker 2>when of course we're live from Pine Bush, which was

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<v Speaker 2>an experience I don't think we're going to forget for

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<v Speaker 2>a while. I hope we do it again because it

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<v Speaker 2>was a lot of fun having an audience in front

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<v Speaker 2>of us.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was great. We really enjoyed it and it.

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<v Speaker 2>Forced us to be on our game. That's right, other

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<v Speaker 2>than for my allergies driving me crazy. So I apologize

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<v Speaker 2>to anybody that listened through my snipples, and I have

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<v Speaker 2>announcement to make to any of our listeners in the

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful country Finland. I am going to be there, yay.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been back in a while. I will be

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<v Speaker 2>in hell Sinki and the hell Sinky area August eighth

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<v Speaker 2>through the sixteenth. I will be making a few day

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<v Speaker 2>trip up north to Lapland to so if you're in

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<v Speaker 2>those areas, please reach out. And if you're listening and

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<v Speaker 2>you're in Talent, Estonia, we may make a side trip

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<v Speaker 2>over to Talent for the day. And I'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>meet people. Love to meet you. If you have a

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<v Speaker 2>story to tell. I'm going to bring a recorder and

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<v Speaker 2>we can record your story and we can getch you

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<v Speaker 2>maybe on the air and spread spread us internationally. To

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<v Speaker 2>my wish that could be my adopted country. Maybe someone

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<v Speaker 2>adopt me from Finland.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can add sixteenth you can add foreign correspondent

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<v Speaker 1>to your resume.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that that's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>LinkedIn excellent, well, I know it Finland is your happy place,

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<v Speaker 1>so hopefully someone gets in touch. So we are speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of international things. We are doing another dust bin of ufology,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, going. I just I can't get enough of

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<v Speaker 1>combing the old books, you know, the paperbacks that are

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<v Speaker 1>starting to deteriorate because they're so that they I think

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<v Speaker 1>they were printed on acid paper, so they're uh, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's great and I just some of these cases are amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>So and it just not to interrupt you, it brings

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<v Speaker 2>I know, it brings me and you back to sort

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<v Speaker 2>of that root fascination growing up and seeing these stories,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and reading them and being like wide eyed

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<v Speaker 2>and convinced there's aliens everywhere, Oh my gosh, when I

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<v Speaker 2>was a kid. But so it's great to go back

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<v Speaker 2>and actually revisit these stories because really it's what drove

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<v Speaker 2>not only my interest or your interest, probably a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people's interest.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh, definitely stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, hopefully everyone will see after we

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<v Speaker 1>cover a few of these. How can you not get

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<v Speaker 1>hooked if you have an inquisitive mind and a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of imagination. These things are remarkable. So why don't

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<v Speaker 1>we jump in to nineteen fifty two August twenty eighth Denim,

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<v Speaker 1>England about three pm. They described a space ship very

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<v Speaker 1>high in the sky in the act of releasing three

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<v Speaker 1>satellite discs. Okay, so apparently this was a very large

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<v Speaker 1>ship and smaller craft were coming out of it, which,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we we have come across some of these cases.

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<v Speaker 1>They're rare, but they're they're out there and they're fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>So these satellite discs, as they called it, flew off

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<v Speaker 4>Now, even if you're.

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<v Speaker 1>can't think of anything that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, And you know, the description of these satellite discs

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<v Speaker 2>being sent out, it almost kind of reminds me of

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<v Speaker 2>how we use drones today, How you can take a

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<v Speaker 2>out what's in the middle of that those woods over there,

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<v Speaker 2>well I could fly my drone up and I can

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<v Speaker 2>hover right over it and look at it. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and the fact that you have it over Sweden and England.

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<v Speaker 2>Surprised no one in Norway reported it because they would

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<v Speaker 2>have had to have passed over.

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<v Speaker 4>That, but maybe they didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't make the or people saw it, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking nineteen fifty two, not a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>felt emboldened to speak out possible. Yeah, so that that

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<v Speaker 1>was August twenty eight. On the twenty first of September,

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<v Speaker 1>back in England over I Love this an aerodrome in

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<v Speaker 1>not the best career move for a Royal Air Force

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<v Speaker 1>officer to report a UFO, but when there are ten

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<v Speaker 1>of them, maybe that you feel strength in numbers. That

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<v Speaker 1>same day, back in Sweden, what's going on Gutteburg, Sweden?

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<v Speaker 4>Have you been there?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, when you were there, did you see a large, noiseless,

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<v Speaker 1>glittering object traveling at high speed leaving a phosphorescent tail?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say that, I get Oh well, well they did,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is the set. So this is I love

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<v Speaker 1>when you get these, you know, similarities.

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<v Speaker 4>What is it with now?

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<v Speaker 1>Twice in fifty two, in August twenty eighth, in the

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<v Speaker 1>September twenty first over both England and Sweden are seeing

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<v Speaker 1>these objects. The twenty eighth in Carrap, Denmark. Don't tell

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<v Speaker 1>me you've been there too.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been to Denmark, but not Carrap.

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<v Speaker 4>I all, okay, I love this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the description a large, unique flying saucer. Are

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<v Speaker 1>there not unique flying saucers?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess this was more unusual than it.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually that day they reports where saucers were seen

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<v Speaker 1>all over Denmark that day. So what's going on the

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<v Speaker 1>month of September. Well, there was a little thing going

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<v Speaker 1>on in the North end Atlantic called Exercise main Brace.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any familiarity familiarity with that? Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>was an enormous NATO combined naval operation. There's great videos,

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<v Speaker 3>When the narrator and Operation main Brace, you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>might of the NATO nations basically giving a middle finger

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<v Speaker 3>to the Soviet Union.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, yeah, you go ahead and try to attack us.

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<v Speaker 1>The navies of the US, British, French, Canadian, Danish, Norwegian, Portuguese,

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<v Speaker 1>the Netherlands and Belgian all took took part, but In fairness,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Belgians were just passed with bringing chocolate

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<v Speaker 1>and pastries.

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<v Speaker 2>Which I've been there and highly recommend going.

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<v Speaker 1>I was not dissing the Belgians. I mean, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd fly back to Belgian for their pastries and chocolate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>But this operation, this exercise involved eighty thousand men, two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred ships, and one thousand aircraft. It was the most

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<v Speaker 1>ships in the North Atlantic since World War One? So

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<v Speaker 1>did it stir up some interest? Were whoever was in

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<v Speaker 1>these craft hovering around? Like, oh no, what are the

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<v Speaker 1>crazy humans up to now? So you know they starting

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<v Speaker 1>another war?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean this is in the relative you know, aftermath,

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<v Speaker 2>not immediate, but of World War two and the rebuilding

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<v Speaker 2>of Europe been and of course you know NATO flexing

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<v Speaker 2>their muscles versus the Soviet Union and their warsaw pack nations.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, did they did that draw attention?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like you said, what are these people down there doing?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently apparently it did with the sightings all over the area. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't we take our first break and get and

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<v Speaker 1>dust off a few more stories when we get back.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're back here with the dust bin of upology

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<v Speaker 2>that Linda, you should trademark that term because it's awesome

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<v Speaker 2>or the phrase.

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<v Speaker 4>And maybe we have a book.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe UFO Headquarters needs to put out a.

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<v Speaker 2>Book that might be Oh boy, more work, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But in all seriousness, the dust beIN. It's a great analogy.

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<v Speaker 2>But by by no means are these things that should

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<v Speaker 2>be thrown away. These are great stories that are you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in these old books, like you said earlier in the show,

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<v Speaker 2>probably not on acid free paper. No, they're slowly destroying themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great to preserve this information for the future because

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<v Speaker 2>this is important to understand the history. How far back

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff has been going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and just this morning, do you remember we had

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<v Speaker 1>Cheryl gotzol On from Australia.

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<v Speaker 4>We had her on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, great great organization they have, and she sent out

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<v Speaker 1>their newsletter and there was sighting from ninety five. Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>had said, I you know, I could never find any

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<v Speaker 1>other sighting to match this, and it was about a

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<v Speaker 1>larger craft with smaller little craft coming out, and I'm like, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I have to contact Cheryl and say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>check out the fifty two sightings.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a great, a great coincidence, and it shows

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<v Speaker 2>how easy the rabbit hole of ufology expands.

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<v Speaker 4>And the flies.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So let's go to nineteen fifty four January

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<v Speaker 1>through February and we're going to Australia, Saint Kilda, near Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a craft.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this, like a large sheet of aluminum rocking

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<v Speaker 1>from side to side, flashing sunlight, and every time it

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<v Speaker 1>flashed there was a purple halo around it. And this

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't an ordinary sheet of aluminum. It was shaped like

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<v Speaker 1>a butterfly, three hundred feet wide. It was estimated to

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<v Speaker 1>be traveling eighteen hundred miles per hour at thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>feet Again, can you think of any conventional explanation for

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<v Speaker 1>a three hundred foot long silver butterfly?

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<v Speaker 2>No, not even today. I mean, that's the description's great though.

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<v Speaker 2>Idea yes, picture in your mind this sheet of aluminum

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<v Speaker 2>shaped like a butterfly and pretty. I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean how they came up with their numbers, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>good information and good detail to have that three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>foot wide, the estimated speed and the estimated altitude, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean right right.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, a lot with a lot of these stories, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't give you the full reports, and you don't you

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<v Speaker 1>know the number of witnesses. But the good thing is

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<v Speaker 1>you know the location, you know the date, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can then go and research it farther. But wait, there's

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<v Speaker 1>more during this same time period, Hamilton, Australia. I love this,

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<v Speaker 1>a dazzling bright orange thing that narrows it down. But

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<v Speaker 1>then it did go on like a double saucer and

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<v Speaker 1>the top with the top one inverted, so convex top

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<v Speaker 1>and bottom. It left a vapor trail that lasted twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the heck of a vapor trail.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an interesting one.

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<v Speaker 1>About this time, January twenty fifth, for some reason, the

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<v Speaker 1>British Air Ministry warned all of its pilots and personnel to.

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<v Speaker 4>Not talk about UFOs.

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<v Speaker 1>So clearly, you're not going to ask people to not

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. That that's a really odd move to just come

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<v Speaker 2>out and randomly, hey, guys, gather around, we'll talk about UFOs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what I can imagine, right, Like, what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So what does that tell you that someone in a

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<v Speaker 1>So Also during this time period, near Adelaide, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a huge object like a planet, moving swiftly vertically, then sideways,

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<v Speaker 1>and between two thirty am and three point fifteen am

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<v Speaker 1>it was a yellow white shading to deep orange, and

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<v Speaker 1>witnesses said they saw bright point of light circling the

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<v Speaker 1>large ship. So there's this massive ship and some object

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<v Speaker 1>is circling around it. Now in the Hudson Valley, many

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<v Speaker 1>times the massive triangles had a red light, a red

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<v Speaker 1>But this was just a bright point of light circling

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<v Speaker 1>the object. Then in Sail, Australia, this is bizarre, a

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<v Speaker 1>strange object with a corrugated top. I guess that just

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<v Speaker 1>means it was not flat, it was rippled. I'm hoping

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean a cargate and steel roof on this

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<v Speaker 1>UFO they needed a patch job. But this was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>It went from crimson colored to a misty green. I

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<v Speaker 1>never tired of hearing how these things change colors and shape,

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<v Speaker 1>it went up and down and then vanished. And around

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<v Speaker 1>the same time a flight of the Australian National Airways

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<v Speaker 1>near Adelaide again saw a very large object moving erratically.

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<v Speaker 1>So nineteen fifty four January through February, all across Australia. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't think of what they could have seen to

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<v Speaker 1>make it think it was a crimson corrugated roof.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I was going to mention just how

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<v Speaker 2>unique these descriptions are compared to what we hear a

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<v Speaker 2>lot about, you know. I mean, obviously the butterfly shape one,

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<v Speaker 2>but even this one with the corrugated top, the way

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<v Speaker 2>it changes colors, you know, the light circling around it,

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<v Speaker 2>and just they're very very specific details that I think,

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<v Speaker 2>really they're intriguing to me. Like I want to go

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<v Speaker 2>to Australia now.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything tries to kill you there, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, and I'm afraid of everything there, so every.

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<v Speaker 1>Spider snake, I don't know. I think the popcorn is

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<v Speaker 1>deadly there, I'm not sure so, but yeah, these are

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just oh we saw a light in the sky,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like you said, there is some.

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<v Speaker 4>Very intriguing detail.

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<v Speaker 1>So then I love the old scientific journal Reports and

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<v Speaker 1>Scientific American, which you know, always very conservative, particularly July tenth,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen eighty. You know, they didn't they didn't tolerate nonsense

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<v Speaker 1>in this Scientific American. And I don't know what this

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<v Speaker 1>as high as high strangeness gets. In Ontario, Canada, some

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<v Speaker 1>men are working in a field and the stones in

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<v Speaker 4>What I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>They said, well, there was no wind, not that wind's

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<v Speaker 1>going to blow stones up in the sky anyway, but

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<v Speaker 1>they said nothing else was unusual just in this field

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<v Speaker 1>the stones. Now, for that to happen, you either need

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<v Speaker 1>a large force or you need a moderate force with

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<v Speaker 4>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they didn't see anything in the sky.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to think, you know, well, jeez, they

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<v Speaker 2>if they were faires, maybe there was a magnetic forest

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<v Speaker 2>field used. But how strong would it have to be,

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<v Speaker 2>because how much iron or whatever would be in some

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<v Speaker 2>of these rocks to shoot them up into the air.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, yeah, I need to find that. I can.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Scientific American, the old ones I think you

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<v Speaker 1>can access online. I want to see if there's more

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<v Speaker 1>to this story. But yeah, not necessarily UFO related, But

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<v Speaker 1>what the heck was going on there?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Because what's something has to be there has to

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<v Speaker 2>be a force taking a rock resist, you know, resisting

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<v Speaker 2>the force of gravity to get it up in the air.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and then shoot up in the sky.

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<v Speaker 2>Righteah.

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<v Speaker 4>So they didn't say if they were falling back to Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>They I don't know, but I just love you know again,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're like a ten year old kid and you're

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<v Speaker 1>reading things like this, how can you not get hooked?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, exactly, So all right, it's great to relive

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<v Speaker 2>these these.

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<v Speaker 1>Feelings, you know, I know, all right this we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to HMS vulture. Commander Pringle, British of course. May fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen seventy nine. Commander Pringle reports luminous waves of pulsating water. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now that would get me a little concerned if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on a ship out in the ocean. You know, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there are things like luminous algae, right is it algae

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, bioluminescence things like that. But he went

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<v Speaker 1>into more detail. It was not it was not above

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<v Speaker 1>the surface, you know, like waves. It was under the surface.

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<v Speaker 1>And these waves of luminous light passed beneath his ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh oh yeah, doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy feeling. Said,

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<v Speaker 1>the appearance was that of a revolving wheel of light

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<v Speaker 1>with illuminated or luminous spokes. In fact, there were two wheels,

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<v Speaker 1>one on each side of his ship, which stayed with

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<v Speaker 1>them for half an hour.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think that's algae.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's not an algae bloom or whatever they would

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<v Speaker 2>call it, or jellyfish or that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a wheel with luminous spokes.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, you have to go back to the witness. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's eighteen seventy nine, but you're talking about a commander

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<v Speaker 2>in the Royal Royal Navy who's in charge of a

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<v Speaker 2>ship that's extremely expensive. Yes, so they don't. They did

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<v Speaker 2>not appoint people commander who were not competent to take

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<v Speaker 2>that job. And so he's got to know, or you

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<v Speaker 2>would have to assume he knows what the ocean looks like.

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<v Speaker 2>He's sailed a lot. One would hope he's probably seen

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<v Speaker 2>things like the bioluminescent algae and knows what waves look

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<v Speaker 2>like and what kind of conditions. So when a captain

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<v Speaker 2>reports something like this, I think it lends it that

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<v Speaker 2>extra level of credibility, like you didn't see something that

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<v Speaker 1>No. No, And what brought another reason I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do this is our good friend Gary, the one who

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<v Speaker 1>wrote our theme music and also wrote the Pine Bush

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<v Speaker 1>UFO song over Pine Bush look that up. When he

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<v Speaker 1>was in the Navy, I believe it was in the Caribbean.

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<v Speaker 1>He said there was this lighted object under the water

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<v Speaker 1>that passed directly under their ship.

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<v Speaker 4>So again, all these.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys on board, they're seeing this, they know what's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't It wasn't a round Russian sub lit up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So yeah, USOS, which of course is a

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<v Speaker 1>whole other other ballgame, but so you know. And again

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<v Speaker 1>the criticisms are, oh, it's the Navy high tech submersibles

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<v Speaker 1>in eighteen seventy nine. You can't say that that's what's

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<v Speaker 1>so important about finding these old cases because you can

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<v Speaker 1>wipe the slate clean of any sort of stealth military

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<v Speaker 1>black ops projects because they didn't exist. So why don't

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<v Speaker 1>we take our second break and we have I think

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<v Speaker 4>This is Hudson River Radio dot Com this is Hudson

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, we're back from a break and if you're just

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<v Speaker 2>tuning in right now, we're going to be going back

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<v Speaker 2>to chilling in nineteen fifty four, hanging out, listening to

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<v Speaker 2>some good music and encountering UFOs apparently, but you're listening

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<v Speaker 2>to the episode dust Bin of ufology and Linda, this

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<v Speaker 2>has been a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>I could do this all night long. So all right,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's jump into We're going back to Australia to

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<v Speaker 1>two railroad men. Railroad workers April twenty eighth, nineteen fifty four,

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<v Speaker 1>A had a terrifying experience.

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<v Speaker 3>This is you.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a unique UFO with a swooping, screaming, flying

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<v Speaker 1>saucer which rushed straight down at them. Wow, a screaming

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<v Speaker 1>usually they say, how eerily silent?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes to describe.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're on a train which makes no small amount

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<v Speaker 1>of noise, so to hear this screaming flying saucer. It

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<v Speaker 1>was forty five miles west of Geelong, Victoria, about seven

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<v Speaker 1>twenty i am. And they described the size as gigantic.

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<v Speaker 1>It was twenty six year old Ted Smith and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three year old Colin Beacon. They were described as skilled

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<v Speaker 1>and dependable men, and they reported their sighting to the

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<v Speaker 1>Council of Scientific and Industrial Research. So there's some quotes here.

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<v Speaker 1>Smith said, I nearly keeled out of my cab of

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<v Speaker 1>the engine when I saw a huge, round, dark mass

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<v Speaker 1>plunging straight down at my train. It screamed down and

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<v Speaker 1>then suddenly raced up towards the sky. The adventure. You've

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<v Speaker 1>gotta love that. The adventure lasted four minutes and was

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<v Speaker 1>amazing and terrifying. I could see no windows or doors

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<v Speaker 1>in it. Trees in the background looked like match sticks

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<v Speaker 1>against its vast bulk. It could have been a quarter.

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<v Speaker 4>A mile in diameter.

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<v Speaker 2>That is just crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Something a quarter of a mile dive bombing your train, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in broad daylight.

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<v Speaker 2>And I like his comment terrifying and amazing, because how

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<v Speaker 2>many people do we hear that from to this day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it can be terrifying the experience, but at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>they're fascinated by it, they're drawn to.

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<v Speaker 1>It, So yeah, scares the heck out of them and

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<v Speaker 1>they can't wait to have it happen again.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you yeah, when you start seeing this common theme,

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<v Speaker 2>go way back, I mean not, there's something to this

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<v Speaker 2>It's not just people seeing things, hearing things, hallucinating or

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<v Speaker 2>making things up. These are people that are having real

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<v Speaker 2>world experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so Smith continued, I called Colin and we both

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<v Speaker 1>saw it stand still in the air, like a huge

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<v Speaker 1>monster hovering over us. And unlike any possible aircraft, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a beautifully clear morning and no possibility of any illusion.

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<v Speaker 1>It came within three hundred and fifty feet of us,

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<v Speaker 1>something a quarter mile in diameter three hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>feet away, and I felt that it was driven, but

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<v Speaker 1>the way it careemed around the sky, you would have

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was driven by an amateur.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, the UFO operators have to learn too, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that alien just got his learners permit. I told

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<v Speaker 1>you not to take the massive craft out today. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he continued, it may sound silly, but it must

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<v Speaker 1>have been something from another planet. After plunging about the sky,

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<v Speaker 1>it rose higher and higher and went out of sight,

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<v Speaker 1>and Beacon said that Colin Beacon said the craft was

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<v Speaker 1>a dark blue, which is also an unusual.

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<v Speaker 4>Color.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we hear a lot of black silver gun metal.

427
00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:38.640
<v Speaker 1>So the summary of the report for the Melbourne Argus

428
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:44.279
<v Speaker 1>newspaper its size was just colossal. For the four minutes

429
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:47.680
<v Speaker 1>in which we saw it over our engine, it partly

430
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>obscured the sun, but all the time the light was clear.

431
00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:56.599
<v Speaker 1>I feel definitely that the weird thing was piloted. It

432
00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:01.240
<v Speaker 1>was not a clearly lined or defied find object, for

433
00:29:01.400 --> 00:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>it was somewhat covered in a haze, which we hear

434
00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:11.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot like a fog or a haze around them, right, Yeah,

435
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:15.960
<v Speaker 1>perhaps caused by its speed or design. It was not

436
00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:20.559
<v Speaker 1>like any aircraft I've ever seen or read about, more

437
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:25.960
<v Speaker 1>like something out of a dream. So the Royal Australian

438
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:34.039
<v Speaker 1>Air Force Intelligence Section was going to investigate and you know,

439
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:38.680
<v Speaker 1>question these men, But what fabulous description.

440
00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was gonna say, first of all, these these

441
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:45.720
<v Speaker 2>are eloquent witnesses, just the way they're the words they chose.

442
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:46.200
<v Speaker 5>I mean.

443
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Again, and I'm thinking the the Royal Australian Air Force

444
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:54.599
<v Speaker 2>got the report and they went in the trash.

445
00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:57.599
<v Speaker 4>Bin of your apology, probably unfortunately.

446
00:29:58.359 --> 00:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think Australia had been very not that

447
00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:04.480
<v Speaker 1>we were in the US then, but I don't think

448
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Australia was very open to any of this.

449
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:13.160
<v Speaker 4>But at least they have the report. You know, we

450
00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:14.119
<v Speaker 4>have the report.

451
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:19.680
<v Speaker 1>It was in the newspaper, so from But what the

452
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:24.519
<v Speaker 1>heck is that all about? This ginormous craft screaming down

453
00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>on them? Was it trying to scare them?

454
00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:26.759
<v Speaker 3>Was it?

455
00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:32.480
<v Speaker 2>And you know what the newspaper I'm going to read

456
00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:34.799
<v Speaker 2>a real quick section what the newspaper said a couple

457
00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:39.119
<v Speaker 2>of days later. M well, yeah, a few days later

458
00:30:39.920 --> 00:30:42.920
<v Speaker 2>about the men who witnessed it. They are both skilled

459
00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:47.720
<v Speaker 2>and reliable men. And for the doubtful benefit of skeptics,

460
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:51.319
<v Speaker 2>one may add that no engineer on a railroad or

461
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:54.440
<v Speaker 2>firemen any more than an Air Force pilot and a

462
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:58.039
<v Speaker 2>cockpit would be allowed to remain in the very responsible

463
00:30:58.079 --> 00:31:02.359
<v Speaker 2>position in the cabin a locomotive unless they were very

464
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:07.079
<v Speaker 2>well mentally balanced. They have convinced a hard boiled reporter

465
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:11.599
<v Speaker 2>of the Melbourne Argus of the objectivity of the objectivity

466
00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:13.119
<v Speaker 2>of what they saw.

467
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:15.000
<v Speaker 4>That's great.

468
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you don't want a crazy engineer on a locomotive.

469
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:21.559
<v Speaker 4>That's that's an excellent point.

470
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:24.559
<v Speaker 2>I just love the way they sum that up. They

471
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:28.319
<v Speaker 2>will not be allowed to have that position. And they

472
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:32.799
<v Speaker 2>came forward, probably knowing that they could be considered mentally

473
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:35.759
<v Speaker 2>unstable and and pulled from from their jobs.

474
00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:37.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, lose your livelihood.

475
00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

476
00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So another another fab Yeah, we need to get

477
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:48.119
<v Speaker 1>to Australia, Brian, can can we fill out a voucher

478
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and go on Hudson Rid ofver Radio's dime on a sure, No, no.

479
00:31:56.279 --> 00:31:58.440
<v Speaker 4>Problem, Yeah, no problem.

480
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I won't even go. You just go have a great time.

481
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:03.920
<v Speaker 4>I'll just bring back recepedts.

482
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh way, well, and plenty of shows. Well, we may

483
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:12.200
<v Speaker 1>also have to go to Greece, so we'll leave that

484
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:16.599
<v Speaker 1>ticket open for now. But here's another This is this

485
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:20.240
<v Speaker 1>is because I had to get some strange being story

486
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:23.319
<v Speaker 1>in here. We're going all the way back to May

487
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:29.160
<v Speaker 1>of nineteen thirty nine, so pre World War two, well

488
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:35.359
<v Speaker 1>for most of the world, pre roswell at eleven PM.

489
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:37.839
<v Speaker 4>I hope I say this right.

490
00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Pentelecon Mountain in Attica, Greece.

491
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:44.079
<v Speaker 4>Have you been to Greece yet, Mike, I have not

492
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:46.319
<v Speaker 4>been to Greece. Oh, there's so much I want to

493
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:47.039
<v Speaker 4>see in Greece.

494
00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:54.279
<v Speaker 1>Man by the name of Antonis Riftis was coming down

495
00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:58.559
<v Speaker 1>the mountain with his sheep when he saw a bright,

496
00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:05.599
<v Speaker 1>mushroom shaped object with bright search lights hovering over the trees.

497
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:11.880
<v Speaker 1>He then said two strange beings descended on a beam

498
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:16.279
<v Speaker 1>of the search light. Now we've heard about things going

499
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:18.680
<v Speaker 1>up into craft on the beam of a light.

500
00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:19.839
<v Speaker 4>These are coming down.

501
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:25.119
<v Speaker 1>And you know a shepherd in Attica, Greece in nineteen

502
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:27.839
<v Speaker 1>thirty nine, he said it looked like they were wearing

503
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>diving suits, like dressed like sponge divers, and sponge diving

504
00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:36.119
<v Speaker 1>is a big thing in Grace, so that's his frame

505
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:41.359
<v Speaker 1>of reference. So they had some kind of gear on.

506
00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:47.319
<v Speaker 1>They stopped about ten feet away, and he didn't hear

507
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:50.799
<v Speaker 1>a voice. They didn't speak out loud. He heard them

508
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:54.799
<v Speaker 1>in his head. Where have we heard that before? Like

509
00:33:55.440 --> 00:34:01.519
<v Speaker 1>every case ever, and they kept urging him to go

510
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:02.960
<v Speaker 1>with him with them.

511
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:03.720
<v Speaker 2>Uh oh.

512
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:10.119
<v Speaker 1>Fortunately he refused and they didn't force him. But they

513
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:15.039
<v Speaker 1>said they had been to this spot many times in

514
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:22.880
<v Speaker 1>the past and would come back someday. That's kind of creepy, yeah,

515
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:29.079
<v Speaker 1>but we hear this that like maybe where ancient temples

516
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:32.360
<v Speaker 1>or sites have been built around the world, because that's

517
00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:37.639
<v Speaker 1>where the star people came down, So maybe there's places

518
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>they have favorite places.

519
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:43.440
<v Speaker 7>Like we do. They want to keep space tourism on

520
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:48.800
<v Speaker 7>their space tourism, so they went back into the beam

521
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:52.159
<v Speaker 7>of light, which then took them back into the craft

522
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:54.239
<v Speaker 7>and took off at high speed.

523
00:34:55.079 --> 00:35:00.920
<v Speaker 1>So this reminded I don't know if you recall the

524
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:04.039
<v Speaker 1>only other I think it's the only other case I

525
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:06.920
<v Speaker 1>know with a mushroom shaped craft. I don't want to

526
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:08.800
<v Speaker 1>put you on the spot. But does that ring a

527
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:09.440
<v Speaker 1>bell at all?

528
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:14.159
<v Speaker 2>Is that the nineteen seventy one case? Oh?

529
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:21.599
<v Speaker 4>Yes, it is Delphos, Kansas, Kansas, Ronnie Johnson. Yes, he.

530
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Was out tending the sheep, okay, and it's in a

531
00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:34.159
<v Speaker 1>town called Delphos, and he saw a big, bright, mushroom

532
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:38.639
<v Speaker 1>shaped craft. Did they get the throng? Oh, Delphos? That

533
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:45.599
<v Speaker 1>must be Greece, wrong, Delphos, Yeah, the yeah, yeah. I

534
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:48.280
<v Speaker 1>just thought it was very odd that a town named

535
00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:52.400
<v Speaker 1>after a place in Greece, with a man tending his

536
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:55.599
<v Speaker 1>sheep sees a mushroom shaped craft.

537
00:35:56.159 --> 00:35:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Those are big coincidences.

538
00:35:58.920 --> 00:35:59.920
<v Speaker 4>That's what I thought.

539
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>And he didn't see any beings in sponge diver suits.

540
00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:10.960
<v Speaker 1>But I just love when you come on these little coincidences.

541
00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Or is it a coincidence?

542
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:17.519
<v Speaker 2>I think not. I had to say it.

543
00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:24.519
<v Speaker 4>I set you up for that obviously. Here courtesy of.

544
00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Our favorite ancient Aliens Giorgio coincidence.

545
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:34.800
<v Speaker 4>I think not all right? You got one more? Ready

546
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:35.440
<v Speaker 4>for one more?

547
00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:37.079
<v Speaker 2>I think we can do it.

548
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:41.199
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're doing one in the US of A. And

549
00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:46.760
<v Speaker 1>it's December twenty ninth, nineteen ninety nine, which Brian, what

550
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:49.400
<v Speaker 1>is nineteen nineties called now the.

551
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Late nineteen hundreds, the.

552
00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:54.119
<v Speaker 6>Late nineteen hundreds, that's what kids.

553
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:56.880
<v Speaker 4>Are writing nowadays, the late nineteen hundreds.

554
00:36:57.679 --> 00:36:58.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm protesting.

555
00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:00.000
<v Speaker 5>Oh, I have protests.

556
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Did no good? It's doing this is no no, no, no, no,

557
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:05.000
<v Speaker 2>uh huh.

558
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm offended. But all right, so we're going back to the.

559
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:14.280
<v Speaker 4>Late nineteen hundreds. Oh, I want to choke saying that

560
00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:15.719
<v Speaker 4>it is?

561
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh? I said December twenty ninth, nineteen ninety nine. A

562
00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:25.840
<v Speaker 1>woman is driving in Denver, Colorado, on thirteenth Street. I'm

563
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:29.639
<v Speaker 1>not in either of you familiar with Denver, No, never

564
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:32.719
<v Speaker 1>mid Okay, so I don't know where that is. But

565
00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:36.719
<v Speaker 1>this was a report she reported to both Newfork and

566
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:42.840
<v Speaker 1>moufon driving along minding her own business, sees two blue

567
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:45.559
<v Speaker 1>lights in the sky with a red light in the center,

568
00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:49.440
<v Speaker 1>but they're not moving. So she's like, okay, must be

569
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:54.719
<v Speaker 1>a helicopter. She said, except when she drove under it,

570
00:37:55.280 --> 00:38:00.679
<v Speaker 1>it was a grayish black boomerang. And I said to myself,

571
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:07.440
<v Speaker 1>what the blank is that? Which is one of the

572
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:12.320
<v Speaker 1>most genuine responses, gives the case credibility.

573
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:14.559
<v Speaker 2>Right off the bat, and no sugarcoating it.

574
00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:16.719
<v Speaker 4>No, what the blank?

575
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:21.239
<v Speaker 1>So she's like, I have to say, So she turns

576
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:25.320
<v Speaker 1>around on the next street, comes back. It's only thirty

577
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:27.920
<v Speaker 1>seconds have elapsed, but it's already gone.

578
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:30.960
<v Speaker 6>But that's not the end of the story, is it?

579
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:37.400
<v Speaker 1>New this I'm just going to report, you know, don't

580
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:41.679
<v Speaker 1>shoot the messenger here her Apparently she had a lot

581
00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:48.119
<v Speaker 1>of moles. Five of them faded and disappeared completely in

582
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:51.079
<v Speaker 1>the days after this. I don't know how that happens.

583
00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Nine more were fading. That's that's a lot of moles.

584
00:38:55.199 --> 00:39:00.800
<v Speaker 1>So something happened to her biologically, and that's not it.

585
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Over the course of five days, her hair turned from

586
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:14.280
<v Speaker 1>brown to auburn to blonde from the roots up. What

587
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:19.960
<v Speaker 1>changes your hair color? Usually chemicals can do that, right, Yeah, I.

588
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:22.679
<v Speaker 2>Mean you dye your hair or bleach it or whatever

589
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:25.880
<v Speaker 2>they do. But just within a couple of days, like

590
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:30.559
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, Yeah, it was if it was

591
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:32.519
<v Speaker 2>happening in natural you know it start your roots and

592
00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:33.400
<v Speaker 2>slowly grow up.

593
00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:36.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what. Yeah, it was starting from the roots

594
00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:39.719
<v Speaker 1>that Brian. Do you have any idea what changes somebody's hair.

595
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:42.639
<v Speaker 4>No, I mean you've heard of people getting lighter as

596
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:45.039
<v Speaker 4>they get older, but not the other way. Yeah, not

597
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:50.800
<v Speaker 4>in five days, not in five days. No, So that's

598
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:51.199
<v Speaker 4>not it.

599
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:55.840
<v Speaker 1>She started having a lot of dreams where she was

600
00:39:55.960 --> 00:40:03.159
<v Speaker 1>having conversations with aliens in her dreams. And this I

601
00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:08.199
<v Speaker 1>don't again, I'm just reporting. Apparently she had some spider

602
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:13.920
<v Speaker 1>veins and they disappeared. Those are dilated veins, like in

603
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:15.440
<v Speaker 1>your legs, right.

604
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, close to the surface, okay.

605
00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:24.000
<v Speaker 1>And what would make those go away without surgery or treatment?

606
00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:26.000
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, without like some kind of a

607
00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:28.639
<v Speaker 2>medical treatment. I don't, I don't know. I don't think

608
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:31.159
<v Speaker 2>there's any like creams and stuff that really worked.

609
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:37.440
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, So, and then she continued to get various

610
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:42.119
<v Speaker 1>hot and cold spots in her body and pulsations. Sometimes

611
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:45.880
<v Speaker 1>the pulsations would get so severe would only almost be

612
00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:52.199
<v Speaker 1>like painful. But you know, the whole thing is she

613
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:54.480
<v Speaker 1>wasn't that she drove under it, but so did a

614
00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:56.920
<v Speaker 1>bunch of other people. You know, there's all this traffic.

615
00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:04.719
<v Speaker 1>But that's what she recalls that that was what else

616
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:08.360
<v Speaker 1>happened that night. I don't know, but this brought to

617
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:12.679
<v Speaker 1>her mind. We've had Preston Dennett, a friend of ours,

618
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:17.599
<v Speaker 1>on the show. He has a book called UFO Healings,

619
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>which is all about people who have contact and then

620
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:26.519
<v Speaker 1>medical conditions go away.

621
00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:29.480
<v Speaker 4>So very odd.

622
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:34.159
<v Speaker 1>So I thought i'd stop on any very strange one there.

623
00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:36.920
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I was going to say, it's almost like

624
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:39.440
<v Speaker 2>she might have had missing time and didn't realize it

625
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:43.119
<v Speaker 2>as an initial encounter. And I don't think she was

626
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:46.280
<v Speaker 2>dreaming of talking with aliens. That's what she might recall.

627
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:53.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so what seems what what my spidy sense not?

628
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't have spider veins my spidy sense. I've seen

629
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:01.239
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of these cases, if you show interest

630
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:06.559
<v Speaker 1>and go after them, more things happen. Like my own case.

631
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:09.639
<v Speaker 1>We jumped in a car and went after them, and

632
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:14.039
<v Speaker 1>uh oh where did that time go? So be careful

633
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:16.280
<v Speaker 1>what you ask for. I know we did a whole

634
00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:19.599
<v Speaker 1>show on that. But so the fact that she turns

635
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:23.119
<v Speaker 1>around and tries to go back, she's fascinated by them.

636
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Then did something else subsequently happen, I think.

637
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:34.639
<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, that's fascinating. And get Preston's book. I have

638
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:36.679
<v Speaker 2>to read it, folks. You know, he's a good friend

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<v Speaker 2>of ours, has been on the show many times, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure we'll have him on again in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we'll have him on for UFO healings. Yeah, if

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<v Speaker 1>people are interested in that, let us know. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's an amazing an amazing topic because we hear too

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<v Speaker 1>often where people have like signs of radiation exposure and

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<v Speaker 1>things don't go well for them. So would be nice

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<v Speaker 1>to hear maybe when positive things happen as a result.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and that's not something commonly associated with UFOs.

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<v Speaker 2>When you talk about UFOs healing, isn't using one of

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<v Speaker 2>the topics that comes up in conversation?

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, it's usually terror end Yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is part two of the dust bin of ufology.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you liked that, maybe there's a part three

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<v Speaker 1>in our future somewhere. I can't get enough of these

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<v Speaker 1>stories there, and there's so many to choose from.

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<v Speaker 6>It's remarkable.

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<v Speaker 1>So so Mike, enjoy Finland. Hopefully you'll get some Finnish

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<v Speaker 1>UFO cases. And our September episode will be Mike Warden

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<v Speaker 1>UFO Foreign Correspondence.

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<v Speaker 2>So then thank you for listening again. Encourage your friends

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<v Speaker 2>and family and everybody you know to listen to us

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