WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:01.480 It's nice eyes. 2 00:00:02.839 --> 00:00:05.919 Une Boston's news radio. 3 00:00:06.799 --> 00:00:10.400 Just take a minute here if I can, at the 4 00:00:10.400 --> 00:00:14.359 top of this hour to pay tribute to a nightside 5 00:00:14.439 --> 00:00:17.399 listener for many years a friend of mine from New Jersey, 6 00:00:18.399 --> 00:00:24.440 Hank Hank Papoor, who lived a very full life, was 7 00:00:24.519 --> 00:00:31.079 your quintessential New York, New Jersey guy who UH lived 8 00:00:31.079 --> 00:00:34.960 life to the fullest. Uh. He was involved as an 9 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:42.200 insurance executive UH and later in his career had a 10 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:51.600 very successful sports memorabilia store in Brown Mills, New Jersey. 11 00:00:52.439 --> 00:00:56.000 You can find that on eBay if you want just eBay, 12 00:00:56.240 --> 00:01:00.159 I guess eBay dot com U s p R for 13 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:08.359 sports and Hank's cards. And Hank, who was a huge 14 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:14.599 fan of everything New York. We had plenty of conversations, 15 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:18.680 both my brother and I with him about why where 16 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:21.959 we agreed and disagreed on certain things. But he also 17 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:26.000 became a great night side listener and he would be 18 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:28.560 texting me sometimes when I would let a call or 19 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:32.159 go a little too long and cut him off, got 20 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:36.120 him off, and he wanted Rob's job. He wanted to 21 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:41.000 be my producer, I guess. But a year ago he 22 00:01:41.079 --> 00:01:44.640 had a medical seizure and had come back from that 23 00:01:46.120 --> 00:01:51.280 slowly but surely, and actually felt pretty good up until 24 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:55.879 about a week or so ago and things went downhill fast. 25 00:01:56.040 --> 00:02:00.959 And so we lose listeners all the time in this business. 26 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:04.560 And I think of some of my most memorable callers 27 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:07.400 and friends who were loyal listeners of this program. But 28 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:10.599 every once in a while one stands out, and Hank 29 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:15.680 Purpora certainly did. And I just want to wish him. 30 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:19.800 I want to wish his family, you know, you know, 31 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:24.039 peace with what has happened. None of us get out 32 00:02:24.039 --> 00:02:26.599 of this place alive. I guess that's one lesson we 33 00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:29.520 can learn from all of this. And as David Brudnoy 34 00:02:29.879 --> 00:02:35.120 used to remind reminded us before he passed, it's always 35 00:02:35.159 --> 00:02:38.000 good to tell those who you are close to how 36 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:41.680 much you love them, and whether they are family or friends, 37 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:44.800 because sometimes there comes a point in time when you 38 00:02:44.840 --> 00:02:48.879 can no longer express that that sentiment to them face 39 00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:52.800 to face. Uh. And we certainly loved Hank Purpor of 40 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:56.159 New Jersey, both as a listener, as an occasional caller 41 00:02:56.919 --> 00:03:00.479 uh and uh and as a quintessential New Yorker. And 42 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:02.960 the jury, I mean, if they ever had cast a 43 00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:05.280 movie and they and they needed a guy to play 44 00:03:05.319 --> 00:03:08.759 somebody from New York in Jersey. It was Hank. And 45 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:11.919 again our thoughts and prayers go to his family, and 46 00:03:11.960 --> 00:03:15.960 particularly to his son Jim, who will carry on the 47 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:23.120 family business. But the world is is a poor place. 48 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:25.280 I mean, he had a great sense of humor, and 49 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:31.000 he loved sending me trivia questions and challenge my my 50 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:34.520 knowledge of any sport. And he was a He was 51 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:36.840 a great friend. I wish I had known him earlier 52 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:41.199 in my life and had spent more time in contact 53 00:03:41.240 --> 00:03:44.439 with him, But we had a good three or four years. 54 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:50.240 And rest in peace, friend, Rest in peace you You 55 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:54.159 you ran the marathon, and and you you smiled a 56 00:03:54.159 --> 00:03:56.400 lot more than you cried, that's for sure. And a 57 00:03:56.400 --> 00:04:00.319 lot of people are crying for you tonight and flear 58 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:03.840 in a far better place. So I don't do that 59 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:07.599 often for listeners, but he was a special guy, and 60 00:04:07.759 --> 00:04:10.919 I thank you for allowing me to do that. Now. 61 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:13.280 I want to get back to the topic we're talking about, 62 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:15.800 and I think this is an important topic. You know, 63 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:19.759 I often try to challenge my audience. Could I could 64 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:22.000 do topics here every night of the week, you know, 65 00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:25.079 tell me your favorite pizza, tell me your favorite color. 66 00:04:26.399 --> 00:04:29.879 We sometimes do those sort of lighter topics on a 67 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:33.360 Friday at eleven o'clock or a Friday night at ten o'clock, 68 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:38.560 but this is one that the president elect has issued 69 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:42.480 an ultimatum. This is what this is on truth social 70 00:04:42.920 --> 00:04:46.720 basically said to Hamas, and I guess to ran As 71 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:50.720 Will from Long Island, I think astutely pointed out if 72 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:53.920 the hostages are not released prior to January twentieth, twenty 73 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:57.519 twenty five, the date that I proudly assume office as 74 00:04:57.600 --> 00:05:01.279 President of the United States, be all hell to pay 75 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:03.839 in the Middle East, and for those in charge who 76 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:09.480 perportated these atrocities against humanity. That's directed to Hamas. In 77 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:13.120 my opinion, those responsible, and here's where iron comes in, 78 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:15.720 will be hit harder than anybody has been hit in 79 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:18.519 the long and storied history of the United States of America. 80 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:24.920 Release the hostages, now, that is a very strong statement. Now, 81 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:29.399 if this strong statement were to work, and AMAS were 82 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:34.279 to decide to release those hostages, I think it would 83 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:39.800 be remembered as a brilliant, brilliant challenge. I'm not sure 84 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:43.439 that Hamas will comply. And the reason I'm not sure 85 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:46.680 they will comply is one they don't think they care. 86 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:50.560 I don't think that they worry. I think that they 87 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:54.120 see their role in this world quite differently than any 88 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:56.480 of us can even understand. In view of what they 89 00:05:56.519 --> 00:06:02.279 did on October the seventh, they have no more compass whatsoever. 90 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:06.199 Their only compasses for survival. And I suspect that the 91 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:10.519 presence of some of the hostages still being alive is 92 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:13.439 their ticket to tomorrow, because as long as there are 93 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:19.000 hostages who are alive, we value the lives of everyone 94 00:06:19.959 --> 00:06:24.079 differently that Hamas values them. Hamas looks at these Israelis 95 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:28.319 and Americans who are still in captivity as of chips 96 00:06:29.759 --> 00:06:32.399 in a war that, in their mind, will never end. 97 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:37.560 So I don't think Donald Trump is going to get 98 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:40.879 the concessions that he's looking for. I hope he does. 99 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:44.600 So then the question is what happens if he does 100 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:47.920 take that oath of office? What action does he take? 101 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:51.279 So that's the question I'm asking. I think it was 102 00:06:52.399 --> 00:07:00.680 a brilliant idea to issue this this threat, this promise, 103 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:06.199 and maybe Hamas will look at him and say, hey, 104 00:07:07.160 --> 00:07:12.639 we can't trust him. Let's ask for safe passage out 105 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:16.240 of here. Let us get to a country which will 106 00:07:16.279 --> 00:07:20.319 allow us to live there, and we will reconstitute ourselves. 107 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:23.759 That would be the way that I think a pragmatist 108 00:07:23.879 --> 00:07:29.600 within Hamas would be thinking. And maybe maybe there's some 109 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:33.920 intelligence which suggests to us that that will strike a court. 110 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:36.279 I don't know. My question to you is what do 111 00:07:36.319 --> 00:07:39.600 you think Donald Trump does if they don't release the hostages? 112 00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:43.160 And now it's day one, day two, day three, day four, 113 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:46.720 day five of the second Trump administration. I think the 114 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:49.560 President elect has kind of backed themselves into a corner 115 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:55.000 where unless Harmast does something very significant, they will be 116 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:58.000 able to turn around and say, hey, we would stood 117 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:01.759 the we would stood the threat, and we're still standing. 118 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:06.240 So the wisdom of the ultimatum, and it is an ultimatum, 119 00:08:06.279 --> 00:08:10.600 it's an or else ultimatum, there's no doubt about that. Now, again, 120 00:08:10.639 --> 00:08:13.279 he is not the president of the United States yet, 121 00:08:14.199 --> 00:08:17.839 but he will be. I think it's at this point 122 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:21.879 forty six days maybe if I'm doing my math correctly, 123 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:25.480 twenty five twenty six days left here in December, twenty 124 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:30.639 days in January. That's it. That's it. That's the end 125 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:34.480 of Biden Harris presidency, and it's the start of the 126 00:08:34.519 --> 00:08:39.080 forty seventh president, Donald Trump. So whether you like Donald 127 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:44.120 Trump voted for Donald Trump, can't stan Donald Trump would 128 00:08:44.120 --> 00:08:48.080 never vote for Donald Trump. He has played a card 129 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:54.360 here that maybe to work. I don't know. My question 130 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:58.320 is do you agree with what Donald Trump did here? 131 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:01.919 I don't think he broke any US law at all 132 00:09:02.039 --> 00:09:05.639 by suggesting this. He's just sent a message to Hamas. 133 00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:10.159 He's not negotiating with a foreign power. And what does 134 00:09:10.200 --> 00:09:13.320 he do? What does he do if Hamas does not comply? 135 00:09:14.440 --> 00:09:18.120 What does he do if that portion of the ultimatum 136 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:22.799 or else is not fulfilled by Hamas? Six one, seven, two, five, 137 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:26.320 four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. 138 00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:30.960 I'm hoping you'll think, and I'm hoping you'll join the conversation. 139 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:34.320 We're back on Nightside right after a couple of very 140 00:09:34.360 --> 00:09:36.679 brief messages, So dial right. 141 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:40.720 Now now back to Dan ray Line from the window 142 00:09:40.720 --> 00:09:44.279 World night Side Studios on WBZ the news radio. 143 00:09:45.320 --> 00:09:46.720 Back to the phones. We're go. I'm going to go 144 00:09:46.759 --> 00:09:49.159 to Joe and Lynn. Joe, thanks for calding through the news. 145 00:09:49.159 --> 00:09:54.159 You are next on Nightside. Did I miss Where's Joe? 146 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:56.919 Let's put Joe on hold? If Joe's not there, he 147 00:09:56.919 --> 00:10:00.559 held through the news. Laurie is an idah, Oh, Laurie, 148 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:01.279 how are you tonight? 149 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:03.039 I'm doing well. 150 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:03.840 Nice to have you back. 151 00:10:04.559 --> 00:10:07.120 Well, I'm happy to be back. I'm here tomorrow night, 152 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:09.279 I'm off Friday, and then I'm here for two weeks 153 00:10:10.399 --> 00:10:12.799 right till the twentieth of December. So you're gonna have 154 00:10:12.840 --> 00:10:14.759 a lot of me if you want me, Okay, go ahead. 155 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:15.039 Lord. 156 00:10:17.159 --> 00:10:20.679 So I'm kind of the opposite of back himself during 157 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:23.159 the corner. I feel more like he's walked into the 158 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:26.440 walking into the room, talking and carrying a big stick. 159 00:10:27.399 --> 00:10:32.879 Okay, So let's assume Hamas does the right thing and 160 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:36.399 gives up the hostages. Even if they do it, do 161 00:10:36.559 --> 00:10:40.159 some sort of a deal whereby they're given free passage 162 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:47.440 to another Middle Eastern country. I think he comes out 163 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:52.919 looking pretty good. What happens if they don't and they say, hey, 164 00:10:53.000 --> 00:10:58.960 mister President, it's January twenty first, next move is up 165 00:10:59.000 --> 00:10:59.200 to you. 166 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:02.679 What happens then, well, I can't believe that Trump and 167 00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:06.639 mister don't don't already have kind of a plan in 168 00:11:06.679 --> 00:11:08.960 that way, and maybe Pakistan wouldn't want any part of 169 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:09.840 it and send them packing. 170 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:13.320 Would you say about Pakistan? 171 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:18.159 No, I wouldn't know, not Pakistan. Whose other I mean, 172 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:20.759 who who's landed Hamas actually on? 173 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:27.960 Well, well they're on what they call Palestine. Oh oh yeah, 174 00:11:27.960 --> 00:11:31.080 but it is is an area that is run by 175 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:37.039 had been run by the Palestinian authoritys ousted them in 176 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:41.679 an election earlier this century. Uh, and I think it 177 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:44.000 was in two thousand and six if I'm not mistaken, 178 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:48.200 and then they've never had another election. It's like they're 179 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:49.639 in perpetuity. 180 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:52.320 There's nobody that can really kick them off of where 181 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:52.799 they're living. 182 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:57.279 Then, well, who is talking about Israel? Israel would love 183 00:11:57.320 --> 00:11:58.039 to kick him off. 184 00:11:58.679 --> 00:11:59.519 Yeah. 185 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:04.360 Yeah, I'm just saying that when when President Trump or 186 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:10.120 President elect Trump used the phraseology here that those responsible 187 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:12.960 have hit harder than anybody who has been hit anybody 188 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:14.720 who has been hit in the long story history of 189 00:12:14.759 --> 00:12:19.440 the United States of America released the hostages. Now, I 190 00:12:19.559 --> 00:12:22.960 have no idea who he might Oh that. 191 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:23.600 Could have been Iran. 192 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:26.759 Yeah yeah, yeah, Well. 193 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:28.840 Maybe maybe they've Yeah, I don't know, but I just 194 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:31.399 think he's I think he's making a little bit of 195 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:33.759 a noise walking in the room. And if that goes away, 196 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:35.480 before he gets in office. That will be one lest 197 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:37.639 thing he has to deal with. And it also makes, 198 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:40.440 you know, America look like it's being strong again. And 199 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:43.519 I think it's good for Perozrael to know that they're 200 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:45.879 being supported. And also all the family members that have 201 00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:49.360 hostages over there, alive or dead, have a right to know. 202 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:51.679 What's you know, I. 203 00:12:51.639 --> 00:12:56.440 Guess to put it in simpler terms, he's setting a tone, Yes, 204 00:12:57.519 --> 00:13:01.240 a new tone. Hey, Laurie, let me ask you. 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I love 247 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:08.720 that they were very the. 248 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:12.320 Best medical hands. I think we're all very blessed. 249 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:16.279 They were kind to me that They said to me, 250 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:19.039 we don't blame you with alternative. We can discuss it. 251 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:20.879 He says, you'll like the doctor when you meet him. 252 00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:22.679 They were kind to me. At least they're open minded. 253 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:24.919 Dan and I hope. I'd love to buy one of 254 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:27.039 those bags if I had to, but I can't use 255 00:15:27.080 --> 00:15:30.000 the website. I'm not that good of the website. Now, 256 00:15:30.399 --> 00:15:32.960 getting back to this, I think Trump should do it, 257 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:39.080 not yet Yea who I can pronounce his name yah 258 00:15:40.559 --> 00:15:48.440 bomb pronunciation bomb Helmas out of existence, because that's the 259 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:50.600 only way they're going to get rid of them. I mean, 260 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:52.960 we may or may not lose the hostages, but first 261 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:56.399 try and take down their structure. That he may have 262 00:15:56.480 --> 00:15:58.600 to do that. And because I heard net Ya who 263 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:00.919 say that one time. He says they should be gotten 264 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:03.759 rid of, and that's the price we pay, you know 265 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:04.080 what I. 266 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:07.120 Mean, Well, we're not paying that price the hostages would 267 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:07.480 be paid. 268 00:16:08.480 --> 00:16:12.240 I mean that's that's unless we can get get rid 269 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:15.840 of them without hurting the hostages. But I don't know, but. 270 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:20.720 Yeah, I think that the hostages, however, many remain. However, 271 00:16:20.840 --> 00:16:23.559 many are still alive, and I think that the number 272 00:16:23.559 --> 00:16:27.000 of the maximum number would be one hundred because some 273 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:31.000 have been rescued, a handful of rescued by Israeli soldiers 274 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:38.639 died during the conflict, and some have died in captivity. 275 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:41.519 The belief is one hundred at the outside. There were 276 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:44.720 two hundred and fifty people taking hostage at the beginning, 277 00:16:44.759 --> 00:16:47.519 so they're down to forty percent of what they had. Yeah, 278 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:50.720 I don't know that Hamas is going to rise to 279 00:16:50.799 --> 00:16:53.080 the occasion and do the right thing here, because I think, 280 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:58.159 like anything else in a hostage situation, they are chips 281 00:16:58.159 --> 00:17:02.679 that Hamas might need to pay, need to play cards, 282 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:06.440 they need to play, and I unless they're going to 283 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:09.400 work a deal, I mean, what if Hamas said, look, 284 00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:13.200 give us safe passage for the leadership that's left your 285 00:17:13.559 --> 00:17:17.079 twenty five Hamas leaders, We get to go to the 286 00:17:17.519 --> 00:17:22.440 Arab Emirates or Cutter or somewhere that would take them, 287 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:25.720 and we will leave the hostages for you to come 288 00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:26.279 and rescue. 289 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:28.640 Oh well, Dan, I don't think that will work because 290 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:31.119 no one wants those people. Am I correct? Is They're 291 00:17:31.160 --> 00:17:32.920 not like throughout the Middle East? 292 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:37.759 Or I think that none of these countries wanted the 293 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:43.000 refugee issues of all the Palestinians. I don't think that 294 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:46.359 no country wanted to absorb that. But you might get 295 00:17:46.400 --> 00:17:51.240 a Cutter or a United Arab Emirates to say, Okay, 296 00:17:51.559 --> 00:18:01.240 we will take you know, twenty people or whatever. I think. 297 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:01.960 I don't know. 298 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:04.640 I mean the reason I say that because our people 299 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:07.079 go over to those countries sometimes and visit. They have 300 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:09.440 to be careful. I don't know. I don't think that's 301 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:11.079 going to work any of. 302 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:13.559 Those countries at this point. Joe, you have to be 303 00:18:13.640 --> 00:18:17.160 yea as an American. Look, you go anywhere in the world, 304 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:19.759 and you have to be careful as an American unless 305 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:22.359 you go to some country, and even if a country 306 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:23.279 that's friendly. 307 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:29.039 To us, well, I don't I don't know. That's may 308 00:18:29.160 --> 00:18:33.240 or may not work, But I don't know. I think 309 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:35.440 that Trump has no choice but to do whatever he 310 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:39.039 wants to do, and I hope he doesn't disappear. I 311 00:18:39.079 --> 00:18:42.440 hope he does it. And I did have a decent 312 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:45.160 Thanksgiving this year. I visited my friend who invited me. 313 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:47.519 But I'll probably be alone in Christmas. But that's the 314 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:53.440 way it is, I guess, all right. That's the social 315 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:55.880 work was very nice to me. He understood how I felt. 316 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:59.039 I talk to you, and at least he's open minded. 317 00:18:59.119 --> 00:18:59.960 Now that's what you need. 318 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:03.240 You know, absolutely, Joe. You've got a battle on your hands, 319 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:04.920 but I think you're a tough guy and you're gonna 320 00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:05.160 win it. 321 00:19:05.240 --> 00:19:07.359 Okay, Well I don't know how tough I am, but 322 00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:10.839 all right, thanks Joe, thank you, Bye bye. 323 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:13.160 Let me go to Sidney. Gonna get Cindy and Fitchburgh 324 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:15.759 in here. Cindy, you are next on night side. Get 325 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:17.680 you in before the news at the bottom of the hour. 326 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:18.119 How are you. 327 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:21.160 That's wonderful, Thank you, thank you for having me. I'm 328 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:27.960 okay hearing the ultimatum and taking it at face value. 329 00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:32.079 It's a It's a frightening thing to think about. And 330 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:37.039 I think about my grandkids who are eleven and thirteen, 331 00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:43.839 who could read the quotes and take it even further. 332 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:48.200 How do we how do we deal with this ultimatum? 333 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:52.359 And how do we communicate this in a common way 334 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:55.319 to those around us? How do we how do we 335 00:19:55.359 --> 00:19:56.480 help each other deal with this? 336 00:19:57.960 --> 00:19:58.160 Well? 337 00:19:58.319 --> 00:20:02.400 Care it's scary, but the world is a scary place. 338 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:07.119 And you put yourself in the position of the families 339 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:11.079 who have hostages there. I mean that have lived now 340 00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:15.079 what fifteen months or so fourteen and a half months, 341 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:17.680 knowing that they're not knowing of the fate of their 342 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:21.440 loved ones. The bad guys here are Hamas. It's not 343 00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:26.400 the Palestinian people, but it's Hamas who did this. Some 344 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:31.440 of these hostages have been killed. And Donald Trump issued 345 00:20:31.480 --> 00:20:34.359 an ultimatum. And let me tell you, as one of 346 00:20:34.400 --> 00:20:37.319 our other callers said, once you're right the check, sometimes 347 00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:38.960 you have to pay the bills. So I don't know 348 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:41.599 what he has in mind, but he certainly made it 349 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:44.920 very clear that he intends to extract quite a price 350 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:48.480 if these hostages are not released by January twentieth. 351 00:20:50.119 --> 00:20:53.279 So there's no common thought to go with this, is there. 352 00:20:53.400 --> 00:20:55.319 This is a fact, and this is. 353 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:02.519 Stakes. Yeah, I mean, I mean, if they're released, the 354 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:06.400 only thing I see is if you know, Israel has 355 00:21:06.440 --> 00:21:13.519 in the past traded up to one thousand inmates members 356 00:21:13.519 --> 00:21:17.839 of Hamas for one single Israeli soldier. I mean, that's 357 00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:21.680 the value that Israel puts on the lives of their 358 00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:28.599 citizens and members of their military. So maybe maybe Hamas 359 00:21:28.680 --> 00:21:31.519 reaches out and this is intended to break the logjam, 360 00:21:31.559 --> 00:21:34.519 and Hamas says, look, you give us free passage out 361 00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:38.480 of here. You know, twenty people, twenty five people, whatever 362 00:21:38.559 --> 00:21:43.079 leadership has left, and we will provide you give us 363 00:21:43.079 --> 00:21:46.839 free passage. We want to go to you know, pick 364 00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:51.759 a country, United Arab Emirates, Cutter, any of the countries 365 00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:55.640 in the Middle East, and we will have the hostages 366 00:21:56.480 --> 00:22:00.240 ready to be released as soon as we cross out 367 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:01.599 of out of gossip. 368 00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:05.839 I wouldn't that be something what I said, wouldn't that 369 00:22:05.880 --> 00:22:06.440 be something? 370 00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:10.759 It would be and it would be something for Donald 371 00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:13.680 Trump to say, hey, it was it was his initiative. 372 00:22:13.839 --> 00:22:17.599 It's like a log jam now. But are they And 373 00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:20.559 again I think that everybody has focused for a long 374 00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:23.599 time on the Ukraine War, which is which is important. 375 00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:27.000 But I think what's going on in Israel is is critical. 376 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:31.359 I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. Well, thank you 377 00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:34.079 for taking my call. I guess there's just no comforting 378 00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:37.119 way to think about this, and it is what it is, 379 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:41.000 and I'm afraid of the worst case scenario. So time 380 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:41.640 will tell. 381 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:44.000 What's the worst case scenario in your mind? 382 00:22:44.200 --> 00:22:48.079 That that when Trump takes office, they will not have 383 00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:52.160 been released and he will unleash Holy hell. 384 00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:54.359 I guess that's what he said. 385 00:22:54.880 --> 00:22:57.599 That's the quote all hell to pay, There will be 386 00:22:57.720 --> 00:23:01.160 all hell to pay. You're right, and I believe him. 387 00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:03.440 I did not vote for him, but I believe when 388 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:09.039 he says something like that, and that scares me. All right, well, 389 00:23:09.119 --> 00:23:12.039 thank you so much. I've never called before. I've listened 390 00:23:12.079 --> 00:23:15.440 for many years. I was in grade school listening to 391 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:16.200 Larry Glick. 392 00:23:16.839 --> 00:23:21.880 You know, all right, well look, okay, you what sent you? 393 00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:25.160 Your first time calling Cindy. And since I'm in. 394 00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:29.160 A giving to get a bag, do I get a Yeah? 395 00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:30.319 Absolutely, you gotta get a. 396 00:23:31.559 --> 00:23:32.400 Oh that's wonderful. 397 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:37.200 Thanks at College Hype, Jack Dougherty and Kathleen Hickey and 398 00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:41.640 Joe Foley. Great great company. They produced all nightside gear. 399 00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:44.160 Just go to nightside gear dot com. You'll see the bag. 400 00:23:44.599 --> 00:23:49.200 You'll see hooded sweatshirts, T shirts, coffee mugs. 401 00:23:49.680 --> 00:23:49.799