WEBVTT 1 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:12.519 Five oh five. But if you're not k r C 2 00:00:13.439 --> 00:00:18.199 the talk station Friday eight years. 3 00:00:19.359 --> 00:00:29.440 Some say. 4 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:34.079 A vacation and that's the way. 5 00:00:32.840 --> 00:00:35.439 The news going it is, And wow, am I surrounded 6 00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:36.920 by a lot of news. Not that today is any 7 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:39.960 different than the other day. Happy uh Friday Eve. Brian 8 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:42.320 Thomas here inviting phone calls. There has always five one three, 9 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:46.079 seven hundred eighty two to three talk or found five 10 00:00:46.159 --> 00:00:49.359 fifty on your AT and T phones. Uh, coming up 11 00:00:49.359 --> 00:00:51.039 with fifty five krcy morgans you one hour from now 12 00:00:51.039 --> 00:00:53.200 six oh five with Jack Windsor, editor in chief of 13 00:00:53.240 --> 00:00:55.520 the IOH Press Network and host of The Windsor Report. 14 00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:59.079 We're gonna be talking with Jack about medicaid fraud here 15 00:00:59.079 --> 00:01:01.039 in the state of Ohio. He's been following that issue 16 00:01:01.119 --> 00:01:04.519 very closely in his capacity as an investigative reporter for 17 00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:07.480 the Windsor Report. It's got a lot of information on it, 18 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:11.319 and none of it is pretty I think we will 19 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:16.359 be given a pretty clear picture of gross incompetence here 20 00:01:16.400 --> 00:01:18.560 in the state of OKAIOA when it comes to the waste, 21 00:01:18.560 --> 00:01:22.439 fraud and abuse going on to medicaid to the tune 22 00:01:22.480 --> 00:01:30.319 of about six billion dollars. Yeah, on that topic as well, 23 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:32.560 coming in at seven thirty for a full hour. Ohio 24 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:37.040 State Representative District forty five's Jennifer Gross. She's on the 25 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:39.519 Medicaid board, so she probably has some answers to the 26 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:42.079 questions and issues raised by Jack Windsor in the prior 27 00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:45.040 segment and one of the few Republicans that didn't vote 28 00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:48.200 for the budget. And of course it being Thursday, I 29 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:50.840 heard media aviation expert Jay Ratliffe. We had a topic 30 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:53.040 list that could last us an hour and a half 31 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:55.959 with Jay today. So that's as I view that as 32 00:01:55.959 --> 00:01:59.840 a wonderful thing. I really enjoy our exchange every Thursday. 33 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:03.200 Five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty eight hundred eight 34 00:02:03.200 --> 00:02:05.439 two three talk you care to call? Real quick word? 35 00:02:05.480 --> 00:02:07.359 Thank you to everyone that made it to Mattrie yesterday 36 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:11.479 at Summit Park. What a cool location, free flictening to Matrie. 37 00:02:11.479 --> 00:02:13.960 It's a brand new facility, It's huge, and the beer 38 00:02:14.000 --> 00:02:15.639 is great. I knew the beer would be great because 39 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:19.080 I'm a big fan of Mattree anyway, but wow, great surroundings, 40 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:22.280 plenty of room, the food was great, the festivities, the fellowship, 41 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:25.199 everything was fun. If you were there, I hope you 42 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:26.840 had a good time, at least as good a time 43 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:29.400 as I did. I try to make the rounds and 44 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:31.360 interact with everybody. I'm not quite sure I was able 45 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:33.919 to talk to everybody, but I try. And it was 46 00:02:33.960 --> 00:02:37.159 great seeing some new folks there. Every listener months we 47 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:39.759 get some folks who've never been and always enjoy when 48 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:43.840 when new people stop by. So great seeing everyone, and 49 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:47.800 it's three in a row for me with cribbage Mike, 50 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:48.919 I beat him yesterday. 51 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:52.599 Oh that was fun. 52 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:56.000 And thank you to his grandson who roots for me, 53 00:02:56.080 --> 00:03:02.599 although he did look a little bored. Garbage of Mike. 54 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:04.719 If you're out there, I really enjoyed. It's the great 55 00:03:04.719 --> 00:03:08.199 seeing you and your better half as well as your grandson. Anyhow, 56 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:12.199 all the things going on in the world, you got 57 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:15.199 the battle between now Elon Musky and Donald Trump. Donald 58 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:18.919 Trump not happy with Elon Musk, who's against the Big 59 00:03:18.960 --> 00:03:21.520 beautiful Bill because it spends two damn months. Donald Trump 60 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:29.520 wants to eliminate the debt ceiling completely, scrap it. I'm 61 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:34.319 not thrilled with that push. Personally. We spend too much, 62 00:03:35.439 --> 00:03:37.960 and at least it access some sort of check on 63 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:41.319 government spending, not an effective one. I might add, but 64 00:03:41.360 --> 00:03:43.520 our elected officials don't like to vote to increase the 65 00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:47.000 dead ceiling because it puts them on paper, makes them 66 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:49.120 they have to stare at themselves in the mirror every 67 00:03:49.120 --> 00:03:51.719 morning and say, yeah, we spend too much, and now 68 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:53.719 we don't even have a dead ceiling to sort of 69 00:03:55.719 --> 00:04:00.360 prevent us from spending beyond our means. I wanted to 70 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:05.560 start here in the state of Ohio with property taxes. 71 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:09.960 Props to Paula Christian over DoD CPO for reporting on 72 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:12.319 an issue that's going to impact every homeowner out there. 73 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:15.199 You'all happy with the most recent tax increase, property tax 74 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:17.399 increase that we went through. A lot of people got 75 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:21.439 what thirty percent increase, many people ten, making homes even 76 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:25.319 very make some photos unaffordable for like seniors for example, 77 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:28.480 who are on fixedups. You end up getting like an 78 00:04:28.480 --> 00:04:31.319 eight thousand dollars property tax, Like wha, what in the 79 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:34.480 hell where did that come from? And you got to 80 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:37.600 find the means and resources to pay it? And guess 81 00:04:37.600 --> 00:04:41.120 what bad news is coming our way? Property taxes across 82 00:04:41.279 --> 00:04:46.120 all all operative word in the sentence, all Ohio counties 83 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:50.040 could increase as much as twenty five percent over the 84 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:53.120 next few years. That is, Oh, I know, Joe, thank 85 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:56.000 you for the appropriately time sound effect. That is, unless 86 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:59.879 date lawmakers approved dramatic reform by late June. That the 87 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:04.240 warning from Matt Dolan or Matt Nolan rather apologies Matt 88 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:08.160 Matt Nolan, president of the County Auditors Association also Warren 89 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:14.079 County Auditor, quoted as saying, you have to call your 90 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:17.000 legislators and frankly, it has to happen now. The more 91 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:18.879 you can reach out to them and say this is 92 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:22.399 my number one issue. This is going to shift my 93 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:26.120 vote if you don't do something on this that has 94 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:29.759 an impact. And you know he's right about that. Every 95 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:33.920 politician I talk to there's very little outreach from the 96 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:37.519 electorate out there. I mean, they're your people, They're supposed 97 00:05:37.519 --> 00:05:40.000 to represent your interests, and very few people will take 98 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:42.120 the time to reach out to them by way of 99 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:44.480 sending a letter, sending an email, picking up the phone 100 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:46.879 and call in the office and expressing your frustration over 101 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:50.000 any given issue. But the more that happens, you get 102 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:52.160 a week when a whole bunch of people call in 103 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:54.360 on the same topic demanding the same thing, they tend 104 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:57.720 to sit up and take notice. Wow, We normally only 105 00:05:57.720 --> 00:05:59.480 get a couple of calls a week. How is it 106 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:02.519 that we ended up getting inundated with phone calls on this? 107 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:10.240 So do it. It does have an impact. Uh, Corn 108 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:11.800 and Nolan, You're going to see what you saw in 109 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:14.680 your last year in Hamilton County happen again. You're going 110 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:17.560 to see a twenty five to thirty percent value increase 111 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:21.160 wherever you live. Claremont, Butler, Warren, You're going to see 112 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:23.000 that level of value increase, and if you're going to 113 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:25.160 see your taxes go up by a similar amount. And 114 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:27.639 almost every school district in that area is going to 115 00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:30.319 be at the twenty mill floor, so they're going to 116 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:36.079 experience the largest property tax increase they've ever experienced. Yeah, 117 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:37.879 my sentiments exactly. 118 00:06:37.959 --> 00:06:38.360 Joe. 119 00:06:39.079 --> 00:06:41.759 He tested at the Ohio Senate Finance Committee last week, 120 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:47.439 urging lawmakers to expand the homestead exemption program, cap how 121 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:51.199 much school districts can get from property taxes, and stop 122 00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:53.800 a non business tax credit reward for out of state 123 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:58.279 companies that buy up properties to rent out. I will 124 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:06.839 call them absentee landlord words. Now, the last round of 125 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:12.680 massive increases created this grassroots group that's out collecting signatures 126 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:15.360 to put a constitutional amendment on November ballots who eliminate 127 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:18.120 property taxes altogether, raising a whole lot of questions about 128 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:22.240 how things would be funded, something that Pierce Township Trustee 129 00:07:22.279 --> 00:07:26.680 Alan Freeman noted in being interviewed by CPO on this. 130 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:29.279 I mean he said that property tax is how we 131 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:32.000 fund police, fire road repairs, any number of township services. 132 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:34.519 If you get rid of property taxes completely, they're not 133 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:35.800 going to be able to respond to a nine to 134 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:38.279 one one call. Would it be that dire or could 135 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:40.920 they come up with a different funding mechanism. I'm not 136 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:44.079 putting the blame at Alan Freeman's lap, but he's pointing 137 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:49.199 out something that is a practical reality. Nolan said, it 138 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:52.199 used to be the values went up and rates came down, 139 00:07:52.279 --> 00:07:54.199 and your taxes really didn't go up that much. That's 140 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:57.800 all changed. Now you're seeing values go up double digits, 141 00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:00.199 almost twenty percent. This cycling. To be honest, I don't 142 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:03.040 see that changing anytime soon. Hamilton County is going to 143 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:08.160 go through a reevaluation next year. We'll go through one, 144 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:10.399 and I think it's going to be very similar numbers 145 00:08:10.439 --> 00:08:13.959 twenty five thirty percent value increases and twenty percent tax 146 00:08:14.040 --> 00:08:17.879 increases and we can't sustain that. I think the we 147 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:24.879 he's referring to is the homeowner concerned about homeowners being 148 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:28.680 so overburdened with high property taxes which do fund school districts, 149 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:33.600 primarily that they'll reject new levees for police and fire services, 150 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:35.960 which is already happening. They point out in the article 151 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:40.879 about Pierce Township overwhelmingly shot down the police levee in May. 152 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:44.759 I understand what they're saying, he said. They're saying, I've 153 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:48.519 been taxed enough. I can't afford to do any more. 154 00:08:49.279 --> 00:08:50.679 But I don't know how to put I put a 155 00:08:50.679 --> 00:08:55.279 police force out without that levee, said the trustee. Freeman 156 00:08:56.960 --> 00:08:58.879 any pointed up township is going to put that levee 157 00:08:58.879 --> 00:08:59.759 back in the ballot in November. 158 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:02.039 We're gonna have to. There's no choice. 159 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:04.480 Now. 160 00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:06.840 The sentence version of the budget that was released this 161 00:09:06.960 --> 00:09:10.879 or this past Tuesday, does have some proposals aimed at 162 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:14.360 property tax relief, but both Nolan and Freeman said it's 163 00:09:14.440 --> 00:09:21.039 just not enough, calling them good minor steps. He said, 164 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:24.360 I hope the Conference Committee looks at real relief for 165 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:28.080 tax payers. What's including the Senate budget gives no real 166 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:30.840 immediate relief to anyone. It only kicks the can a 167 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:40.519 little down the road for future increases. So gird your loins, folks. 168 00:09:42.200 --> 00:09:44.080 I don't know I have any tea leaf readers out 169 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:46.159 in my listening audience that want to opine as to 170 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:47.600 whether or not the Senate might. 171 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:49.799 Provide real relief. 172 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:52.879 Whether that's going to go through, But in the meantime, 173 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:55.600 you might want to start stockpiling some additional money to 174 00:09:55.639 --> 00:09:58.879 cover the additional presumably twenty percent increase you're going to 175 00:09:58.919 --> 00:10:07.399 see in your property tax coming up soon. Geez, it 176 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:12.399 is unsustainable. But you know what, moving away from property taxes, 177 00:10:12.679 --> 00:10:16.200 I think we'd get taxed enough. Maybe we've got a 178 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:20.720 spending problem, and I don't know. We found out they 179 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:24.679 had four point seven billion dollars in unclaimed fund in 180 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:27.240 the state of Ohio, from which they pulled six hundred 181 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:30.840 million dollars to give to the Cleveland Browns Complex. Is 182 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:32.240 there any way that can apply the rest of the 183 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:36.559 four point seven balance to maybe providing us some relief 184 00:10:36.600 --> 00:10:40.240 from our property taxes. I don't know how that would work, 185 00:10:40.679 --> 00:10:47.440 the devils and the details, But as of right now, 186 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:55.000 all I can say is brace yourself five sixteen fifty 187 00:10:55.000 --> 00:10:57.639 five krs the talk station. We've got plenty more of 188 00:10:57.679 --> 00:10:59.399 talk about coming up. I love to hear from you. 189 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:01.799 If you've got a the meantime hang out of you 190 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:12.639 right back. Can't roll it out, it may rain, which 191 00:11:12.679 --> 00:11:19.960 also suggests it may not well the forecast ever right, 192 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:24.639 you guess say occasionally get it right. It seems like 193 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:28.440 a cosmic crapshoot, whether you can rely on it or not. Anyway, 194 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:34.879 two kind of related stories. First to go to Arizona, 195 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:39.519 where a Democratic Governor, Katie Hobbes veto to bill that 196 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:42.159 would prevent China from buying up land next to strategic 197 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:43.840 sites like military bases. 198 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:44.879 Sent up. 199 00:11:44.879 --> 00:11:49.000 Minority leader there Denay Shamp said the politically motivated veto 200 00:11:49.279 --> 00:11:54.360 utterly insane, and calling the governor an obstructionist against safeguarding 201 00:11:54.399 --> 00:12:00.320 our citizens from threats. Governor Hobbs, for her part, said 202 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:03.320 the Senate Bill eleven oh nine was ineffective at counter 203 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:08.799 espionage and did not directly protect American military assets. Everybody's 204 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:11.759 got some concern. It's Manna's all kinds of bills out there. 205 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:16.879 According to the Chinese focused nonprofit, twenty seven states currently 206 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:20.360 considering eighty four bills aimed at restricting foreign property ownership 207 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:24.440 in some way. Congress also considering seven separate bills addressing 208 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:28.840 the same issue. Twenty two states have already passed bills 209 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:32.000 restricting foreign property ownership, seventeen to which were passed in 210 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:34.519 just county year twenty twenty four. So this is just 211 00:12:34.559 --> 00:12:39.759 one among many people have concerns about that CEO and 212 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:42.240 founder of a state armor action. A guy named Michael 213 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:44.919 Lucci quoted is saying Governor Hobbs veto this bill, hangs 214 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:48.080 and open for the CCP sign under Arizona's front door, 215 00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:51.960 allowing communists China to buy up land near critical assets 216 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:55.759 like Luke Air Force Base, Palo Verdi Nuclear Power plant 217 00:12:55.799 --> 00:13:01.399 in Taiwan, semi conductors, growing fabrication footprint, he said, Allowing 218 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:04.240 communists China to buy up land your critical assets as 219 00:13:04.240 --> 00:13:07.120 a national security risk plane in simplel Governor Hobbs is 220 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:10.600 substantly and completely wrong when she says this bill is 221 00:13:10.639 --> 00:13:14.080 ineffective at counter espionage and does not directly protect our 222 00:13:14.120 --> 00:13:18.279 military basis. And of course everyone I'm imagining is thinking 223 00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:23.840 immediately of Ukraine's recent drone attacks, moving drones in close 224 00:13:23.879 --> 00:13:27.159 proximity to the air bases where this Russian aircraft were 225 00:13:27.159 --> 00:13:30.039 located made it easy for them to actually hit their targets, 226 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:33.519 giving Russia literally no time at all to shoot down 227 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:36.600 the drones. Look, it's right there. That's a concern. I 228 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:42.200 think it's a legitimate one. And in not related news, 229 00:13:42.200 --> 00:13:45.159 but sort of kind of related news, this was scary. 230 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:49.440 Two Chinese nationals charge was smuggling a pathogen into the 231 00:13:49.559 --> 00:13:54.759 United States. Cash Mattel said, this case is a sobering 232 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:57.440 reminder that the CCP is working around the clock to 233 00:13:57.480 --> 00:14:02.000 open to deploy operatives and research to infiltrate American institutions 234 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:05.559 and target our food supply, which could have grave consequences, 235 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:11.159 putting American lives and our economy at serious risk. Charges 236 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:15.879 foul against Jian Yung Queen and Lou Jiang Xiangyong close enough. 237 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:21.440 According to the complaint. Lee researcher currently in China, applied 238 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:24.200 for a B two VSA in March last year, brought 239 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:29.679 the pathogen a fungus known as Fusarium garminarium into the 240 00:14:29.799 --> 00:14:35.559 United States. Gordon Patel this pathogen is an agro terrorism agent, 241 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:39.919 his words, and the fungus can cause head blight, a 242 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:43.159 disease that can devastate wheat, barley, maize, rice and cause 243 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:51.639 health problems in humans and livestock. The other guy charged John, 244 00:14:51.679 --> 00:14:57.840 a postdoctoral research fellow at the Molecular Plant Microbe Interaction 245 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:02.159 Laboratory at the University of Mission, offered her a fellowship 246 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:05.279 position in twenty three. According to complaint, she also applied 247 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:09.080 for a visa a Jay one visa. FBI agents found 248 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:12.559 an electronic document in John's cell phone describing her membership 249 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:17.519 and loyalty to the Chinese Communist Party to charge with 250 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:20.879 visa fraud, conspiracy, making false statements, and smuggling goods into 251 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:27.240 the United States corner cash retellent statement. Smuggling a known 252 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:30.600 agro terrorism agent into the United States is not just 253 00:15:30.679 --> 00:15:34.519 a violation of law, it's a direct threat to national security. 254 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:43.159 Yeah. 255 00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:46.320 Senator Ashley Moody, member the Senate Committee on Homeland Security 256 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:50.200 and Government Affairs, sits on the House Appropriations Committee, said 257 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:52.840 this case highlights the need to pass their legislation. It's 258 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:56.679 a CENTERPILD ten eighty six and House Resolution twenty one 259 00:15:56.720 --> 00:16:03.720 to forty seven, the stop CCP Visa's Act body on AX. 260 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:08.360 This is insane. These ccpeeling foreign nationals are weaponizing student 261 00:16:08.480 --> 00:16:13.399 visas in attempt to poison our country again again, all 262 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:17.200 in caps with dual exclamation points. It's time to pass 263 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:21.600 the Stop Ccpvisa Act is now. That legislation would amend 264 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:23.759 the Immigration of Nationality Act to banned the admission of 265 00:16:23.840 --> 00:16:28.279 Chinese nationals as non immigrant students. And of course that 266 00:16:28.399 --> 00:16:32.120 comes along the heels of Donald Trump banning travel to 267 00:16:32.200 --> 00:16:34.679 the United States from several countries in order to stop 268 00:16:34.759 --> 00:16:38.519 foreign dangerous foreign actors from showing up. Why those countries 269 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:41.879 either refuse to cooperate with US in terms of identifying 270 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:45.919 the individuals or have no mechanism to identify them background checks, etc. 271 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:53.200 They also are high risk terrorism countries Afghanistan, Iran, Somalia, Lilia, Yamen, 272 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:56.799 all deemed very high risk, also of Venezuela, Cuban lawos 273 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:04.680 partial restrictions and referred to as common sense. Press Secretary 274 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:08.720 Abigail Jackson saying these are re restrictions, common sense and 275 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:12.440 targeted at countries that, in her words, lack proper vetting, 276 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:17.079 exhibit high visa overstay rates, or fail to share identity 277 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:23.000 and threat information. At least someone's aware of a problem. 278 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:24.880 In trying to do something about it, five twenty six. 279 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:27.319 Right now fifty five ks of the talk station. Oh, Scott, 280 00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:29.240 I do see that you are on the call screen. 281 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:31.480 If you don't mind holding, I will take your call 282 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:33.200 right after the quick break here. 283 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:38.640 Fifty five KRC the talk station. In this week's Marketers. 284 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:41.680 Procation, it is five twenty nine and a happy Friday 285 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:42.400 eve to you. 286 00:17:46.279 --> 00:17:46.880 Eightwo to three talk. 287 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:48.680 I had a couple of callers online. I promised Scott 288 00:17:48.720 --> 00:17:50.559 he'd be first. Scott, thanks for calling and holding over 289 00:17:50.559 --> 00:17:51.960 the break. It's good to hear from you today. 290 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:56.920 Hey, good morning, Brian. We were down to listeners lunch 291 00:17:57.400 --> 00:18:01.279 yesterday and had a great time. Like my wife and 292 00:18:01.319 --> 00:18:03.559 I is like our third one we've been to. We're 293 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:04.440 from up north. 294 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:05.440 Around Greenville, Ohio. 295 00:18:05.480 --> 00:18:08.400 But we were blessed just to be able to sit 296 00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:11.279 and have lunch with Mississippi James and his wife. 297 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:14.119 He's a good guyn't Yeah. 298 00:18:13.920 --> 00:18:14.279 He is. 299 00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:17.799 We just enjoyed our time, you know, all day long 300 00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:19.880 with him, and he just wanted to give him a 301 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:22.519 shout out, and it was just nice to meet someone 302 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:24.799 like him. You hear him on the phone every day 303 00:18:24.839 --> 00:18:27.440 almost it seems like and then you get to meet 304 00:18:27.480 --> 00:18:29.880 him and it was nice. We had a really nice time. 305 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:32.319 See you made a friend, isn't that great? That's why 306 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:35.039 I love listening lunches. And there are tables of people 307 00:18:35.079 --> 00:18:37.240 there and you probably could spot a big table with 308 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:39.559 the city and you know, they all sit together and 309 00:18:39.559 --> 00:18:41.759 they've been doing that for years, and it just warms 310 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:44.839 my heart to know and that I was able through 311 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:48.720 these lunches to facilitate the formation of friendship. So it's 312 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:51.119 just it's awesome and I'm glad you're able to talk. 313 00:18:51.039 --> 00:18:53.960 The Times sub Marine and Mike again too. That was 314 00:18:54.319 --> 00:18:56.160 you were just getting ready to You were just getting 315 00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:57.640 ready to play cribbage with him. 316 00:18:57.519 --> 00:19:00.599 And I beat him. Yeah, that's three in a row, 317 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:03.960 Scott in a row, Three in a row about a roll. 318 00:19:05.960 --> 00:19:08.000 Well, just want to shout out. So we had a 319 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:11.000 great time. Hey, I'll get off there. 320 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:13.119 Thanks a lot, next man, maybe I'll see it another 321 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:16.720 one down the road. We're waiting for confirmation. I did 322 00:19:16.759 --> 00:19:20.359 not have and I still don't have absolute confirmation, but 323 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:23.480 as of right now, all signs are indicating we are 324 00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:27.880 going to be at Wandering Monsters Brewery and they have 325 00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:30.440 a nice menu there as well. But I'll confirm it 326 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:32.880 and let everybody know as we get a little bit closer, 327 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:36.039 and we're gonna have it not on the second of 328 00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:39.039 July because of the Independence Day holiday two days later. 329 00:19:39.079 --> 00:19:41.160 We're going to kick it to the following Wednesday. And 330 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:44.240 I'll be sure and emphasize that regularly as we get 331 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:46.599 closer to the next listener launch. Great hearing from me, man, 332 00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:49.279 I'm glad you're able to make it. Tom Good morning, 333 00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:50.960 welcome to the fifty five KC Morning Show. 334 00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:55.599 My friend, Yeah, good good morning, and my lovely bride 335 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:57.920 is up this morning, and you kicked the hornets mass 336 00:19:57.920 --> 00:20:02.000 with this whole property tax U. Oh yeah, she sees 337 00:20:02.079 --> 00:20:04.680 all sees all work. This is this is one of 338 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:07.880 her You know, everybody's got two or three subjects that 339 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:11.039 you know what. Don't bring this up around so and so, 340 00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:13.759 because if you do, you're not going to hear the 341 00:20:13.839 --> 00:20:15.799 end of it. That one of those from my wife 342 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:18.359 is the property tax issue. And you know it bugs 343 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:21.279 me too, but I'll I'll blurt down a couple of 344 00:20:21.319 --> 00:20:24.839 exploders and move on. But oh, this this just launches 345 00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:28.039 her into a tire rade, and rightfully so, because I mean, 346 00:20:28.079 --> 00:20:33.480 this is absolutely ridiculous. How they can just randomly whatever 347 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:36.319 they feel like it raise the value of your property. 348 00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:39.720 I mean, you think, think about that. These these people 349 00:20:39.799 --> 00:20:45.319 are just going to arbitrarily raise how valuable your property 350 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:48.440 is so that the tax they put on it is more. 351 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:51.680 I just I find that to be stunning. 352 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:55.119 Frankly, Now, I will tell you Tom that you know 353 00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:57.680 I because like, for example, Dusty Rhodes, who used to 354 00:20:57.720 --> 00:20:59.799 be already he was at lunch yesterday and I'm thinking 355 00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:01.960 of him as I say this, and I know he's retired, 356 00:21:02.039 --> 00:21:05.720 but he would argue that, no, it's based upon the 357 00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:09.359 market valuation. And like the next door neighbors sold their 358 00:21:09.359 --> 00:21:11.160 house and they sold it for one hundred and fifty 359 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:14.200 thousand dollars more than they bought it for, and they 360 00:21:14.279 --> 00:21:17.119 use that to compare the value of your house. Same size, 361 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:19.680 same shape, same number of square feet. They look at 362 00:21:19.680 --> 00:21:23.160 geographic sales and they determine property values and then come 363 00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:26.640 up with what they believe to be the appropriate valuation 364 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:28.759 of your property. Even though you've been there for like 365 00:21:28.839 --> 00:21:31.200 two decades or three decades, as the case may be, 366 00:21:31.319 --> 00:21:34.240 and it's never been sold, they can still determine what 367 00:21:34.359 --> 00:21:36.640 it's worth and so that's how they come up with 368 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:39.119 a valuation. It's not a perfect formula, and that's why 369 00:21:39.119 --> 00:21:41.240 they have an appeal process. You can go in and 370 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:43.559 find your own comps and valuations and tell them that 371 00:21:43.599 --> 00:21:47.000 they were wrong. But right, it's not our It's not 372 00:21:47.039 --> 00:21:49.640 completely arbitrary, I guess, is the point I'm trying to make. 373 00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:53.920 Okay, well, well still, it's that's not enough knowing that 374 00:21:53.960 --> 00:21:56.640 our property value is going up. That's not enough. They 375 00:21:56.640 --> 00:21:59.680 got to also jack up the rate. So yeah, we're 376 00:21:59.680 --> 00:22:03.119 getting We're getting hosed every which way, and I don't know, 377 00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:08.039 I frankly get fluckered sometimes what can we do about it? 378 00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:10.680 I mean it because I was talking to General off airs, like, 379 00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:13.799 what happens to these people when they get elected to office? 380 00:22:13.960 --> 00:22:18.400 All of a sudden, they change, they change their mindset 381 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:21.000 of how they're going to do things, and they completely 382 00:22:21.039 --> 00:22:25.079 forget about your representing a group of people. You're supposed 383 00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:28.200 to be representing their best interest, and all of a sudden, 384 00:22:28.480 --> 00:22:30.759 as soon as you take office, that goes out the window. 385 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:33.640 That's what it seems like, and that's absolutely ridiculous, and 386 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:36.759 that goes we're both sides of the eyes. But obviously 387 00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:39.480 especially in the left, So don't vote Democrats. Have a 388 00:22:39.519 --> 00:22:39.960 great day. 389 00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:43.960 Thanks Tom. Yeah, I was immediately thinking of since a 390 00:22:44.119 --> 00:22:50.920 City Council and the Hyde Park Square deal, and then 391 00:22:50.960 --> 00:22:53.160 I also I am thinking of the so called Big 392 00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:57.960 Beautiful Bill, which doesn't go far enough to cut government spending. 393 00:22:59.480 --> 00:23:01.759 The Republicans are the ones that created this. Democrats are 394 00:23:01.759 --> 00:23:05.039 one hundred percent lockstep against it, and Elon Musk was 395 00:23:05.039 --> 00:23:08.119 making a decent point, this doesn't cut enough. Now some 396 00:23:08.119 --> 00:23:10.279 people are saying that he's against it because it takes 397 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:14.759 away the EV credit or whatever, and I'm not quite 398 00:23:14.839 --> 00:23:16.640 sure that that's one hundred percent of what it is, 399 00:23:16.680 --> 00:23:18.640 considering the work he was doing over the Department of 400 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:24.559 Governmental Efficiency. But I suppose in the final analysis, if 401 00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:26.200 you can to raise the debt ceiling four or five 402 00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:28.880 trillion dollars, or as Donald Trump is calling for it now, 403 00:23:29.160 --> 00:23:33.200 scrapping it completely, you are giving up a fundamental principle 404 00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:38.200 of what used to be Republican philosophy and platform reduced 405 00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:43.640 government spending. If they would follow through with any commitment 406 00:23:43.640 --> 00:23:45.640 they've ever made to the American people over the years, 407 00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:47.119 at least I wish they would do that. 408 00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:47.519 One. 409 00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:50.200 No, we're gonna stop. We're not gonna spend as much. 410 00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:55.920 Never seems to happen, doesn't, So we find ourselves thirty 411 00:23:55.960 --> 00:24:00.759 six coming up on thirty seven trillion dollars in the hole. Anyway, 412 00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:07.160 speaking of home ownership, and of course the ever increasing 413 00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:09.400 property tax bill goes along with that. It does go 414 00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:12.759 along with certain expenses. Home ownership does come along with 415 00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:16.720 repairs and things you need to do and plumbing problems. 416 00:24:16.759 --> 00:24:18.720 And that's why I recommend my friends at Plum Type Plumbing. 417 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:20.799 They know you deserve better than they deliver on better, 418 00:24:21.160 --> 00:24:25.599 better customer service, better prices, and excellence, excellent plumbing work 419 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:28.599 done to your satisfaction as always, no service, fees, free 420 00:24:28.720 --> 00:24:31.599 estimates a plus of the Better Business Bureau. 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I haven't been keeping track, 449 00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:57.279 but I don't think I've found anyone who is more 450 00:25:57.279 --> 00:26:00.400 deserving than this, unless, of course, this case involved eight child, 451 00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:02.400 which could only make it that much worse. But this 452 00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:08.480 is just, this is incomprehensible. Got a forty year old Tennessee, 453 00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:10.680 Tennessee man going to be spending the rest of his 454 00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:15.519 life without possibility of parole after he sadistically kidnapped a 455 00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:18.279 twenty two year old woman, forced her to fatally overdose 456 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:22.519 on a whole truckload of drugs as a part of 457 00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:25.720 a what is described as sadistic, yes, indeed, revenge plan 458 00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:27.799 because the victim reported that he had raped her his 459 00:26:27.880 --> 00:26:35.319 days earlier our winter. This morning, La Tawayne Osborne formerly 460 00:26:35.319 --> 00:26:37.359 pleaded guilty to one count of first degree murder, three 461 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:39.759 counts of attempted first degree murdered one kind of aggravated 462 00:26:39.759 --> 00:26:42.400 sexual bouty for the horrific twenty twenty four slang of 463 00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:50.839 a woman named Danishka Molina Sabaja Mahia. This plea deal 464 00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:53.640 ensured that he would not face trial and the possibility 465 00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:58.079 of the death penalty. Knox Kinty Criminal Judge Hector Sanchez 466 00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:01.200 then ordered him serve the sentence of life without possibility 467 00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:05.240 of parole in the state correctional facility. According to report 468 00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:08.799 from the News, the woman Mahea April third, twenty four 469 00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:11.640 report of the Knoxville Police Department that Osborne had sexually 470 00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:13.880 assaulted her. She told police that a few days earlier, 471 00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:15.799 she was at his house where she fell asleep after 472 00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:21.880 drinking alcohol and smoking weed. Waking up partially undressed. Other 473 00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:25.200 details indicated she had been assaulted. I will not mention them. 474 00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:29.079 Went to the hospital. DNA evidence reportedly confirmed that, yes, indeed, 475 00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:33.200 Osborne had raped her. The night after reporting the rape, 476 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:37.359 Osborne and two others broke into her home, where they 477 00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:39.599 first forced her in. Two others, a woman who was 478 00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:43.119 nine months pregnant, and her boyfriend, both twenty three years old, 479 00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:46.799 into the basement. Osborne initially tried to force me he 480 00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:50.920 had to execute the boyfriend, but she refused. Then he 481 00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:53.240 forced her at gunpoint to snort a bag of drugs 482 00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:58.799 until she passed out. Prosecutors said that after she had 483 00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:01.960 passed out, Osborne forced what they described as a cocktail 484 00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:06.680 of more drugs into the unconscious woman's mouth, fentanyl, cocaine, methamphetamine, 485 00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:12.680 and heroin, simultaneously using his cell phone to film the ordeal. 486 00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:18.160 Osborne's alleged co conspirator's twenty one year old Marquis Ellison, 487 00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:20.839 thirty two year old Edward Wilson awaiting prosecution on first 488 00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:25.200 degree murder and other charges. Prosecutors said that after Osborne 489 00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:27.519 first forced her to snort the drugs, the three men 490 00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:30.559 were making jokes about how long it was taking her 491 00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:34.400 for her to die, before Osborne reportedly placed a bag 492 00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:37.240 over her head and struck her in the face several times. 493 00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:41.799 After ensuring that she was dead, the trio shot the 494 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:46.759 couple that was with her. Both amazingly survived and were able, to, 495 00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:53.440 of course, testify to the crimes to investigators. During the 496 00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:57.720 home invasion, one of Osborne's alleged co conspirators actually shot 497 00:28:57.759 --> 00:29:03.160 Osborne in the leg instant karma to a small degree. 498 00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:05.480 He went to the local hospital for treatment, and when 499 00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:07.960 question told authorities that mahe had overdosed and he was 500 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:10.920 trying to render aid when an unknown as Salem broke 501 00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:15.640 into her home and shot him. Then they stole her car, 502 00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:20.240 which they later set on fire near Knoxville College. After 503 00:29:20.279 --> 00:29:23.640 Osborne's arrest, investigators seized the cell phone and found images 504 00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:28.039 and videos of Mehia's murder and of Osborne groping and 505 00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:34.160 raping her several days earlier. 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Here's your ten or nine first 544 00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:42.160 morning weather forecasts. 545 00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:44.200 Rounds and rains and showers a day, a few strong 546 00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:47.880 storms possible eighty for the high overnight clear actually cloudy, 547 00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:49.960 but clear from rain. Get a little break, and then 548 00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:51.920 it shows up again on Friday in the afternoon and 549 00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:55.079 evening along with us some storms eighty for the high 550 00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:59.200 tomorrow sixty five overnight with rain likely and some storms possible, 551 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:03.039 mostly cloudy Saturday seventy seven. Rain has not been ruled 552 00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:04.839 out seventy one right now, Typer. 553 00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:07.319 Traffic from the UCL Tramping Center. 554 00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:10.839 Millions of Americans are living with Alzheimer's or other dimensions. 555 00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:13.799 Find answers from leading brain health experts, and you see 556 00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:17.279 help learn more at uce health dot com. Highway traffic 557 00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:20.359 do we okay this morning? No accidents to deal with. 558 00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:23.799 No weather issues inside the two seventy five loop as 559 00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:26.440 of yet, but that's going to change in the next 560 00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:29.759 couple of hours. Northbound four seventy ones under five minutes 561 00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:33.559 to seventy five to town. Chuck Ingram on fifty five KRC, 562 00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:34.920 the talk station. 563 00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:38.240 Five fifty one fifty five KA City Talk Station. I 564 00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:40.720 am very happy Thursday to you. After the top of 565 00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:43.039 the our news, get some time with Jack Windsor. He 566 00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:45.960 is the host of the Windsor Report and has been 567 00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:50.039 following as an investigative reporter the whole situation with medicaid 568 00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:52.839 in the state of Ohio. And yes, there's billions and 569 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:56.119 billions of fraud in the medicaid program. Jack after the 570 00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:58.480 news on the phone right now, Jay Jay, Welcome to 571 00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:00.160 the Morning Show. Good to hear from you this morning. 572 00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:03.039 Hey, good morning, Brian. Hey, I want to do I've 573 00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:06.000 got a little bit of your conversation with Tom, and 574 00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:08.640 I want to build on it about the process by 575 00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:11.240 which your property tax is assessed. I live in a 576 00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:13.400 call to Sack about eight houses. 577 00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:14.799 I bought the. 578 00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:20.079 Smallest house, least expensive house, and a pretty nice call 579 00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:24.160 to Sack. And I am sure I've seen the houses 580 00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:27.880 sell for about three four hundred thousand dollars more than 581 00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:31.759 mine is worth. I'm sure that's a solid number. I 582 00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:33.799 took a look at my property taxes and those of 583 00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:36.559 my neighbors, and I saw that I was second highest 584 00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:38.880 charged in that call to Sack. So I got a 585 00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:43.400 hold of a tax guy, put together an assessment, said, look, I'll. 586 00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:44.119 Pay the average. 587 00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:47.160 Just charge me the average. But my house is the smallest, 588 00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:50.559 least fancy house in this call to Sack full of 589 00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:55.039 very nice houses. It came out and took a look 590 00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:59.480 and went we went through the appell process and he said, well, 591 00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:02.640 the reason your taps are so much higher because it's 592 00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:05.440 a single story home. I said, explain that to me. 593 00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:07.599 I said, what's the rationale? With that, he said, well, 594 00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:10.159 I put a one point five factor on a second story. 595 00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:12.559 I said, then you're making my case. 596 00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:13.039 I said, so. 597 00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:16.360 Every square foot on the second floor is one point 598 00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:20.800 five cents to a dollar in the first He says, yes. 599 00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:23.559 I said that a second story would be much more 600 00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:27.079 expensive than a first story using basic map. He says, no, 601 00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:29.920 it's the point. It's point five. I said. 602 00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:31.159 He said, no, it's half. 603 00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:33.360 I said, well, then that would be point five factory. 604 00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:36.079 So now I see that this thing is firaling bad. 605 00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:38.559 I said, can you just give me the equation that 606 00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:41.039 you use it, because I'm kind of a faction and 607 00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:44.159 data guy. He said, well, he says, I use my opinion, 608 00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:45.719 which is the same as facts and data. 609 00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:46.280 Oh my god. 610 00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:50.079 And I told him no, your facts and data are 611 00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:53.800 are are light years away from opinion. In facts and 612 00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:56.480 data are light years apart. Can you not give me 613 00:34:56.519 --> 00:35:00.559 the formula? Well, my opinion is the formula. He went 614 00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:03.039 back and thought about it, and shockingly, I've got a 615 00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:06.320 response in the mail that says was carefully considered. Your 616 00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:10.880 proposal to pay the mean of all those bigger houses. 617 00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:12.400 In your neighborhood rejected. 618 00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:15.960 We'd rather go with our opinion, and that's up in Springboro, Ohio, 619 00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:19.239 between Springborough and Waynesville, just in case anybody's listening in 620 00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:22.679 that area. That's how your taxes are being assessed. 621 00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:25.239 Oh that's bat crap, insane, And I think that flies 622 00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:26.920 in the face of the way they're supposed to conduct 623 00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:32.199 the assessments, which is comparable homes in the general area, 624 00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:34.519 and if yours is some smaller square feet, they should 625 00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:37.199 be comparing years to the sales of homes of comparable 626 00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:41.159 size in your community, not the ones on the street, 627 00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:45.480 which obviously are all much larger and therefore presumably more valuable. 628 00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:47.480 Correct. 629 00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:51.039 So, dunda, this is me being a public service announcement. 630 00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:53.639 They do not have a standard formula. 631 00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:54.400 I'm convinced. 632 00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:57.519 Did they use some comparable to my house? 633 00:35:59.320 --> 00:35:59.800 Maybe? 634 00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:01.159 Probably, but but. 635 00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:03.880 Compared to what other houses are on the street. There 636 00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:06.599 was a there's a lot of twists and turns, And 637 00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:08.760 whenever he told me his opinion or facts and data, 638 00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:11.320 that's what told me. There is no map behind us, 639 00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:13.679 there is no standard process. I think it depends which 640 00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:15.760 guy you have and who shows up and what he 641 00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:16.639 feels like that day. 642 00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:18.960 See, I'm out of my element to know about the 643 00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:22.000 like if there is a lit not that you want 644 00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:23.519 to go to court, but if there's some sort of 645 00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:27.440 litigation where you can you know you've been denied the 646 00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:30.840 reduction in property tax value. They obviously are pulling figures 647 00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.519 from their sphincter as opposed to relying on documented calm. 648 00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:36.719 So I thought they were supposed to pull out the 649 00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:39.679 comparable properties that they use to assess your home, Like 650 00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:42.000 here's the stack of the ten houses we looked at 651 00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:44.840 that sold within the last year or so. Uh, and 652 00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:47.159 this is what we valued it on and use it 653 00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:51.360 with supportive, objective data like that as opposed to again, 654 00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:55.960 some guy's random opinion. It just sounds fundamentally unfair. 655 00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:59.159 And so I just there was a board hearing. 656 00:36:59.199 --> 00:37:00.840 He said, if you would like to come down to 657 00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:05.239 the board hearing and schedule that, And I don't know 658 00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:06.840 if there was a fee. I think there was to 659 00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:11.639 do it. And but you know, honestly, I declined after 660 00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:16.159 thinking if he's if this is the guy that they hired, 661 00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:19.960 he's hired by the board in fact, and opinions are bad, 662 00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:24.519 our opinions are okay and not frowned upon. I honestly 663 00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:26.840 felt at that point this is so damn broken this, 664 00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:28.760 This won't even this is going to waste my time 665 00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:31.800 and money to go down there and argue it. So 666 00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:34.599 perhaps shame on me for not following it through. But 667 00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:37.440 the process was said, damn busted, Brian. I felt like, 668 00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:39.719 this is this is a complete waste of time. This 669 00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:41.480 is this would be like one and standing in front 670 00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:43.840 of a board of second graders with the second second 671 00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:47.719 grade math. They're trying to convince them the factor in data. 672 00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:50.000 If this guy has the job, how good can it be? 673 00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:54.880 Well, honestly, you know, I I if you know as 674 00:37:54.920 --> 00:37:57.039 your a journey, I would have recommended you gone through 675 00:37:57.039 --> 00:37:58.920 the entire process, even if you're going to be out 676 00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:01.719 some money. It would have a record documented. You have 677 00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:04.800 other people looking and listening at what you were told. 678 00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:08.039 That guy would probably be there, and I can't find 679 00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:11.639 I can't imagine anyone finding that to be an appropriate 680 00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:15.440 mechanism to evaluate the value of a property. One dude 681 00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:18.320 with the random opinion about the value of the home. 682 00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:22.119 It's supposed to be again based upon that's to my knowledge, 683 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:26.840 some objective criteria like comparable sales in the general neighborhood. 684 00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:30.719 So I don't know, Man Bill here you go. 685 00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:31.079 Jay. 686 00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:35.039 Apparently, within the next year or so, according to Matt Dowan, 687 00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:38.360 the County Associate Autitors Association, your property tax bill is 688 00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:40.960 going to go up another twenty percent. Maybe you'll have 689 00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:43.880 another shot at contesting it. And I would recommend seeing 690 00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:46.000 it through the whole process to find out where it goes. 691 00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:49.199 And you could probably get some local reporter to listen 692 00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:51.320 in on that and report it widely to the general 693 00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:54.760 public that they're pulling figures from their butt. That might 694 00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:58.280 make the news, and you might get some satisfaction or relief, 695 00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:01.559 maybe even just by threatening that. Five fifty seven fifty 696 00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:03.679 five krcit the Talk Station. I know Jay's want of 697 00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:06.800 Faja's favorite topic is medicaid waste and abuse here in Ohio. 698 00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:09.519 And Jack Windsor, editor in chief of the Ohio Press 699 00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:12.280 Network and host of The Windsor Report. We'll join the 700 00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:14.039 program after the top of the our news to talk 701 00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:14.519 about that. 702 00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:18.960 Be right back us. Happens fast, stay up to date 703 00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:20.039 at the top of the hour. 704 00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:22.679 Not gonna be complicated, and it's gonna go very fast. 705 00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:28.519 Fifty five KRC the Talk Station. If you're into truth, 706 00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:29.320 Hey's Brian Thomas. 707 00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:31.559 Please to welcome to the fifty five KRC Morning Show 708 00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:35.400 Jack Windsor, who's editor in chief the Ohio Press Network, 709 00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:38.000 host of The Windsor Report, and a bit of an 710 00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:40.440 investigative reporter, and he's going to join me to offer 711 00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:43.480 and you his expertise on medicaid fraud as well as 712 00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:46.760 the Ohio budget. Let's dive on into medicaid fraud. Apparently 713 00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:49.079 there is a ton of it going on here in 714 00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:51.880 the state of Ohio, to the tune of billions of dollars. 715 00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:54.199 I mean, we talk about budgeting and short, oh we 716 00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:56.440 don't have enough funds to do this except for giving 717 00:39:56.480 --> 00:39:58.679 six hundred million dollars to the Browns. But we don't 718 00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:01.039 have somebody for this project or that project. But if 719 00:40:01.079 --> 00:40:04.360 they would just crack down on fraud, waste, and abuse, 720 00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:07.639 it would free up literally billions of dollars. What is 721 00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.480 the current figure they estimate right now? Jack Windsor, welcome 722 00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:10.920 to the show. 723 00:40:11.559 --> 00:40:13.159 Well, Brian, first of all, thank you for having me. 724 00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:16.000 It's an honor to be here. And State Representative Mike 725 00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:19.000 Devilla started a probe into Ohio's medicaid system and what 726 00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:23.400 he found within one beneficiary population segment known as the 727 00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:26.599 aged blind and disabled. If you were to extrapolate that 728 00:40:26.679 --> 00:40:29.320 number out to the whole system, we're talking upwards of 729 00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:30.320 six billion. 730 00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:34.360 Dollars Brian, six billion dollars with a bee. 731 00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:38.280 Yep, billion with a bee. And here's how he did it. 732 00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:41.159 If you don't mind, I'll dive into that real quick, please. 733 00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:42.119 Yeah. 734 00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.239 He started this probe back in April, and what he 735 00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:47.480 said was give me records from twenty twenty three. And 736 00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:49.920 when I asked him about that, he said, because twenty 737 00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:54.519 twenty three's calendar year, all of that information should be finalized, audited. 738 00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:56.079 I didn't want to look at twenty twenty four because 739 00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:58.159 we're so early yet in twenty twenty five. I didn't 740 00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:00.159 want any excuses. I wanted to know a full year 741 00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:03.519 where everything should be there for us. So he started auditing, 742 00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:05.960 and he talked with the Hot Department of Medicaid and 743 00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:08.559 of course their third party vendors. One of their third 744 00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:10.320 party vendors as a company and many of us has 745 00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:13.760 probably heard of, called Lexus and Nexus. He found that 746 00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:16.840 in twenty twenty three, they reported that twenty nine percent 747 00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:21.480 of that ABD that Aged blind and Disabled Medicaid beneficiary group, 748 00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:24.119 those folks may have been ineligible and you go, okay, 749 00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:26.320 well what does that mean. That means that they had 750 00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:30.239 assets well above the threshold that would qualify them for Medicaid. 751 00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:33.519 And I always remind people there's Medicare and Medicaid. Medicaid 752 00:41:33.519 --> 00:41:36.559 is for people who, in my mind, we think don't 753 00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:38.920 have a lot of assets, don't have a lot of resources, 754 00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:42.159 and they need some assistance. And we're not just talking 755 00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:44.440 a little bit, Brian. There were over four thousand people 756 00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:48.000 who had assets between one hundred thousand and nine hundred thousand. 757 00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:51.119 There were twelve people that had assets over a million 758 00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:55.039 dollars on Ohio's Medicaid payment system, and that really was 759 00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:58.280 what Devilla's appetite, and he said, Okay, we've really got 760 00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:01.119 to start diving into this. He published the first story 761 00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:02.760 at the Ohio Press Network. You can read it at 762 00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:05.639 the Ohiopressnetwork dot com, and you're going to get the 763 00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:08.480 first look here, Brian, because we're going to publish story 764 00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:11.679 number two probably later today or tomorrow. But Ohio Department 765 00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:14.280 of Medicaid responded to Davilla, and I'm sorry to give 766 00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:17.519 you the spoiler alert. It's a lot of bureaucratic gobbledygook 767 00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:20.559 that they've provided him, so his investigation continues. 768 00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:23.639 I am shocked that you would get gobblygoog in response 769 00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:25.920 to the hard number of reports that he uncovered. 770 00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:28.840 And that was just a sliver, Yeah, a. 771 00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:31.679 Sliver of the entire medicaid population from one year, a 772 00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:34.320 couple of years ago. So and I guarantee you, and 773 00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:36.519 I'm sure you feel the same way, Jack Windsor that 774 00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:39.920 probably things have only gotten worse, but they certainly haven't 775 00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:41.079 gotten better since County. 776 00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:42.039 You're twenty twenty three. 777 00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:45.320 Well, a couple of things have happened in twenty twenty three. 778 00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:48.639 If you remember, we were just coming out of COVID, 779 00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:51.159 so there were people on the rolls in twenty twenty three. 780 00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:53.760 They estimated about three and a half million O highlands. 781 00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:56.039 Think about that, three and a half million highlands. We're 782 00:42:56.039 --> 00:42:59.599 receiving medicaid payments, our populations probably just north of eleven 783 00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:02.239 points or maybe close to eleven point seven million people, 784 00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:04.440 So three and a half million people, that's a pretty 785 00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:08.920 sizable number. Now, my understanding is that that that number 786 00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:11.400 has been pared down a little bit because of the 787 00:43:11.719 --> 00:43:15.320 pandemic era qualifications, so on and so forth. But here's 788 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:20.320 the troubling part when we looked at the lexus Nexus 789 00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:22.800 number one hundred and six thousand, five hundred and forty 790 00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:25.119 nine people. That was the number. And by the way, 791 00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:27.840 lexus Nexus only audited about fifty eight percent of the 792 00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:31.639 entire beneficiary population of that ADM segment, so it's just 793 00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:34.599 one segment of that one hundred and six thousand Brian. 794 00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:36.360 What we found in the follow up letter, this is 795 00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:39.400 what we'll publish today or tomorrow, is that of those 796 00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:42.239 one hundred and six thousand people flagged, only six thousand, 797 00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:46.119 twenty three were disenrolled. So you go, okay, there are 798 00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:49.239 one hundred thousand people that were flagged for having assets 799 00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:52.599 well above the threshold. What in hades happened to them? 800 00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:55.320 And the answer de Villa keeps getting from the Oha 801 00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:57.960 Department of Medicaid is twofold. I don't know if you've 802 00:43:57.960 --> 00:43:59.960 ever seen that mame of like four or five spider 803 00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:02.239 men standing around. They're all pointing at each other. You 804 00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:03.920 did it, you did it, you did it. It's kind 805 00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:06.480 of like that. The director at the state level says, well, 806 00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:08.800 we don't have those numbers. We can't provide that data 807 00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:13.000 specifically because the Department of Job and Family services. At 808 00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:15.039 the county level they take care of all of that, 809 00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:17.880 and all by the way, the federal Social Security Administration 810 00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:20.320 they audit the rest of it. Now, Devilla did some 811 00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:23.559 digging and he found that Social Security Administration, according to 812 00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:27.199 numbers that he received, only audits about eighteen percent of 813 00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:30.119 their population. So when you start crunching those numbers together, 814 00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:32.760 you go, man, I don't know if it's going to 815 00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:35.599 be six billion in waste, fraud and abuse money going 816 00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:38.519 out the door, but it's billions of dollars that are 817 00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:41.400 being paid without proper oversight. And when you're talking about 818 00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:44.239 taxpayer dollars, you're probably like me, Brian, I want to 819 00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:46.360 make sure that if my money's going out the door, 820 00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:48.360 that it's going to people. And I think we all 821 00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:50.840 agree on this. The people who need it should get it. 822 00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:53.000 There are people who don't need it or getting it. 823 00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:53.880 That's a big problem. 824 00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:56.199 Well, it's part of the big beautiful bill requiring folks 825 00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:59.440 who are able bodied and not really truly qualifying for 826 00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:02.320 a program it's supposed to help the disabled and and 827 00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:07.000 and needy elderly folks. They're they're glombing under the system 828 00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:09.039 without having to participate. I mean, I. 829 00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:13.639 Don't understand how we've gotten to this place. Honestly, sir, 830 00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:16.239 I really don't. But going back to Lexus and Nexus, 831 00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:18.920 they're able to know, they know how much money people have, 832 00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:23.239 they're they're able to crunch those numbers. So when Lexus Nexus, 833 00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:25.920 who you described as a third party vendor, they are 834 00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:29.599 a vendor for the State of Ohio. This isn't some 835 00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:33.519 random outsourced, you know, think tank entity that did some 836 00:45:33.559 --> 00:45:35.800 separate number crunching. This is something the State of Ohio 837 00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:38.400 relies upon. Correct it is. 838 00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:40.840 And let me tell you what's really weird about this. 839 00:45:41.079 --> 00:45:46.119 So Lexus Nexus is actually, I guess, a subcontractor of 840 00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:50.800 another third party that the state partners with. Nonetheless, at 841 00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:53.480 the end of the day, our tax dollars are paying 842 00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:56.519 Lexus Nexus for their service, right. And so when I 843 00:45:56.559 --> 00:46:01.840 read the Department of Medicaid's letter two things, the director 844 00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:04.840 Corcoran said, well, Lexis Nexus kind of has this wrong 845 00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:08.599 and shame on them. And I'm thinking, they're your partner, 846 00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:11.519 You're paying them, what are you talking about, right? And 847 00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.079 they identified twenty nine percent is the number that I 848 00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:17.960 keep going back to, and they flagged those people to 849 00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:20.719 be removed. I guess my question to the Ohio Department 850 00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:22.400 of Medicaid would be and I don't think that they've 851 00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:25.039 answered it directly in any of their responses. If you're 852 00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:29.159 paying Lexus Nexus to flag people that are ineligible, why 853 00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:30.639 in haites are you not removing them? 854 00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:32.559 That was the follow up question. 855 00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:36.599 Yeah, why are we paying a company that'd be for 856 00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:39.400 service that we're we're not following up on and we're 857 00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:41.920 not putting into practice. The things that they're telling us 858 00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:43.559 might be problematic. 859 00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:44.360 Well crazy. 860 00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:47.239 If you disenroll them, you send them a letter say 861 00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:49.800 we've identified that you have far too much income to 862 00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:53.800 qualify for Medicaid. You are hereby disenrolled or otherwise disqualified 863 00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:56.599 from the program. They would have an opportunity to then. 864 00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:57.639 Go whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 865 00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:00.320 I don't know where you got your numbers, but I 866 00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:02.800 don't have that kind of money and make an argument 867 00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:03.119 over it. 868 00:47:03.199 --> 00:47:06.679 Right, that's right. Well, two other stunning things I want 869 00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:10.599 to make sure I unpack here. Based on my preliminary investigation. 870 00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:14.320 Lexis Nexus isn't just small potatoes. This is a company. 871 00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:16.280 This is stunning to me, and this might be another 872 00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:20.239 story down the road. They have eighty they have access 873 00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:24.159 Brian to eighty eight percent of all banking account information 874 00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:26.880 in the country. That means if you have a name 875 00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:28.920 and a social Security number, they're going to find your 876 00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:31.960 bank account. And so it's not as if, like I said, 877 00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:35.320 they're small potatoes and you know, they're just some podunk, 878 00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:37.920 duct tape and bubblegum company in the back room. I mean, 879 00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.440 these folks know what they're doing when they're searching for assets. 880 00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:42.960 Here's the other problem. The Oha Department of Medicaid says, well, 881 00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:46.519 Lexis Nexus isn't really used to qualify or disqualify people 882 00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:50.679 because when they're identifying assets, it could include cars and 883 00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:54.559 homes and trust funds, and some of those things are excluded. 884 00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:58.199 And again based on my preliminary investigation, Brian, that's wrong. 885 00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:01.880 Lexus and Nexus identifies cash assets. So when we say 886 00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:04.960 that somebody there are four thousand people that have somewhere 887 00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:08.760 between one hundred thousand to nine hundred thousand dollars in assets, 888 00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:12.079 we're talking cash. We identify twelve people who are millionaires. 889 00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:15.519 We're talking cash. So that to me is the blood 890 00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:17.079 on the hands of ODM that we're going to have 891 00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:19.039 to dig into and get clarity. 892 00:48:18.599 --> 00:48:21.119 On ODM which is passing the BUCKS saying it's not 893 00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:24.440 their obligation to remove unqualified people from the Medicaid roles. 894 00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:29.599 Yeah, that's right, and so Devilla has said, look, I'm 895 00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:32.800 going to write legislation to compel you to follow. I'm 896 00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:37.320 going to open investigations because the General Assembly has oversight 897 00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:40.679 authority to bring them in and question them in subpoena records. 898 00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:42.760 But I think what's really going to happen because of 899 00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:45.800 the way that they've talked to him and Lexus and Nexus, 900 00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:48.599 he's probably going to hope that it heads role. I 901 00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:51.119 think that we probably need to gut that department and 902 00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:54.280 get new leadership that takes seriously the oversight of our 903 00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:55.159 of our tax money. 904 00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:59.000 It's phenomenal to me, and you know, it's just illustrative 905 00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:01.239 of the broader problem with the government generally speaking. They're 906 00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:03.559 not in business. They don't need to earn the money 907 00:49:03.559 --> 00:49:06.760 they take. They just take it from us, and then 908 00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:09.199 they have no incentive to really follow the money trail 909 00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:12.440 or keep track of our money. There's no fiduciary obligation 910 00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:15.000 by elected officials or people working behind the scenes over 911 00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:15.840 at ODM. 912 00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:20.519 That's right, and I think there are about seven hundred employees, 913 00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:22.639 Brian and I think probably the third follow up report 914 00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:24.559 we do, we're gonna let everybody to know how much 915 00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:26.199 money they make. I think people are going to be 916 00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:29.239 appalled at the money that these folks make. If you're 917 00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:31.400 doing your job, that's one thing. But if you have 918 00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:35.159 potentially even if it's two billion, because that's what Lexisnexus 919 00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:37.159 said just in that one segment in twenty twenty three, 920 00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:39.679 we've identified two point two billion, and you extrapolate that 921 00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:42.119 over everything at six billion, you have seven hundred people 922 00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:45.239 that can't audit six billion dollars worth of cash payments. 923 00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:46.159 You're doing it wrong. 924 00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:51.360 Yes, you are six thousand stacks of a million dollars 925 00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:53.880 we're talking about here. It's just the amount of money 926 00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:58.079 is amazing. And all right, Well, this story is going 927 00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:00.559 to continue, and it's got legs for sure, and I 928 00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:03.679 sure hope that they're successful in writing this ship and 929 00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:06.519 for the sake of the American tax payer. Let's pivot 930 00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:08.519 over to the IHIO budget. I know the Sentence proposal 931 00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:10.440 came out with a two point seventy five percent flat 932 00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:12.960 tax and a new way of giving money to the 933 00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:15.880 Cleveland Browns in the form of just handing over money 934 00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:19.880 out of this this fund that they've collected from dormant 935 00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:22.639 bank accounts and uncollected assets, and like they got four 936 00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:25.760 they've been sitting on four point seven billion dollars. Now 937 00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:27.360 I don't know how they didn't use that money for 938 00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:31.719 other purposes, but amazingly they can pull six hundred million 939 00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:34.119 dollars out of it and handed to the Cleveland Browns 940 00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:38.400 for this project. The whole concept of doing that is 941 00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:42.920 it just insults me, Jack, Honestly, it really does. I 942 00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:45.000 could say, how come the Bengals don't get any, but 943 00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:46.639 I don't want any tax money going to the Cincin 944 00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:49.880 any Bengals either. I mean, these are well healed, wealthy 945 00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:52.960 development groups and owners. They if they want a six 946 00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:55.719 hundred or multi one point two or two points, I 947 00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:57.639 don't know how big this project is, but they want 948 00:50:57.639 --> 00:51:00.440 it build it yourself. You know, if it's going to 949 00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:02.599 generate that much tax revenue that you can get the 950 00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:05.000 taxpayers of Ohio to shovel some money in because they 951 00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:07.079 think it's going to generate enough revenue to pay it back, 952 00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:10.039 then fine, you do it, and you take the revenue. 953 00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:12.719 And I know that's just one component of the budget, 954 00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:14.400 but that's the one that's gotten under my skin. It's 955 00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:17.440 more importantly, maybe we focus on the flat tax, which 956 00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:19.159 is going in the right direction. 957 00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:19.480 VV. 958 00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:22.159 Ramas Swimming, who I Ramaswamming, who I believe will be 959 00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:24.360 our next governor. He's in favor of getting it down 960 00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:26.239 to zero, so or at least moving in that direction. 961 00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:31.000 Jack, Yes, two point seventy five percent flat tax is 962 00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:32.719 what we will see. And I think it's going to 963 00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:34.519 be the second part of the biennium, which I think 964 00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:38.440 just means twenty twenty seven. So we're going to ratchet 965 00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:40.239 down one bracket and then we're going to get to 966 00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:43.639 that two point seventy five percent flat tax. Now, everyone 967 00:51:43.679 --> 00:51:45.880 that I talk to, the economists, the people who crunch 968 00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:50.159 the numbers, say that's very attractive for industry, for businesses 969 00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:53.480 to relocate here, because it's attractive for workers. If you say, hey, 970 00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:56.239 it's Ohio has a flat tax. They have a very fair, 971 00:51:56.639 --> 00:52:01.039 very simple income tax structure. That's alluring and so that's 972 00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:03.800 good news to me. What I want to find out, Brian. 973 00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:06.400 And by the way, you have the best in Donovan 974 00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:09.480 O'Neil with Americans for prosperity. They're all over this. So 975 00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:12.519 Donovan's a great dude, and I'm sure they have some 976 00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:15.119 insight on this. I need to find out today if 977 00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:18.280 there are people who don't pay income tax up to 978 00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:20.480 a certain threshold, right, and so then is that two 979 00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:23.920 point seventy five percent for everybody or is there still 980 00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:27.559 that standard whatever it is, If you're below twenty six 981 00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:31.199 thousand dollars in income, you don't pay taxes. Nonetheless, two 982 00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:34.559 point seventy five percent flat tax is pretty attractive. Now 983 00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:37.079 here's the other component that I think is really important. 984 00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:40.039 You'll get it right, Many in the mainstream press won't. 985 00:52:41.159 --> 00:52:44.239 We're actually spending war on education because if you read 986 00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:47.199 many of the mainstream newspapers over the past month, they said, 987 00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:50.320 oh my gosh, they're cutting in the education budget, and 988 00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:53.880 that's government speak. They wanted eight hundred million dollars in increases. 989 00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:56.719 They only got two hundred and sixty or two hundred 990 00:52:56.719 --> 00:52:59.320 and thirty and they call that a cut. Last I checked, 991 00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:02.440 increasing space two hundred million dollars is actually an increase. 992 00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:05.400 But they're increasing spending six hundred and thirty three zero 993 00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:08.559 point nine million dollars over the next two years. But 994 00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:11.760 it's going to be merit based, so schools that have 995 00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:15.440 higher performance numbers are going to have access to more 996 00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:18.039 of that money. And then districts because there's one in 997 00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:21.320 East Cleveland, for example, that have dropped in enrollment by 998 00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:23.960 thirty eight percent over the past five years, and Brian, 999 00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:26.719 they kept getting money, so they had fewer students. They 1000 00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:29.840 kept getting not only money, but more money. Well, that's 1001 00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:33.199 going to change. So if enrollment drops, then the amount 1002 00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:36.119 of money you get drops. And to your point about 1003 00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:38.599 the Cleveland Browns, Sorry if I'm going long here. I 1004 00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:41.039 grew up a Browns fan, which means that, you know, 1005 00:53:41.159 --> 00:53:43.760 I guess in some way I'm a glutton for punishment 1006 00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:48.079 and I'm patient, but I'm with you. I don't think 1007 00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:51.599 sports teams have any business taking tax payer dollars. Although 1008 00:53:51.639 --> 00:53:54.320 I will say this, the last person I talked to 1009 00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:56.639 on this said, we're not increasing taxes, We're not giving 1010 00:53:56.679 --> 00:53:59.400 them direct bonds. We're going to leverage money that's already 1011 00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:02.679 sitting around. They're going to put a bunch of money 1012 00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:05.039 in the pot. That way, if we don't meet our 1013 00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:09.280 return projections, the Browns will actually pony up money. So 1014 00:54:09.639 --> 00:54:11.280 I guess at the end of the day, it might 1015 00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:13.239 be the best way to finagle it. But I'm with you. 1016 00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:16.440 I mean, hey, I own a news outlet independently, and 1017 00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:18.079 I want to look at my senator and go, why 1018 00:54:18.079 --> 00:54:20.360 don't you give me money? I'm doing a public service. 1019 00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:22.639 I just think it's crazy when we start taking tax 1020 00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:25.119 payer dollars and handing it over, handing that money over 1021 00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:26.000 to sports teams. 1022 00:54:26.039 --> 00:54:28.760 Well, and the predicate it was that this whole complex 1023 00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:31.440 is going to generate enough revenue I guess from purchases 1024 00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:36.360 fifteen dollars, beer sales and everything like that to basically 1025 00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:39.480 pay the pay Ohio back and form of tax collection. 1026 00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:45.559 Literally every business out there generates revenue in the form 1027 00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:47.639 of income tax for the state of Ohio. They generate 1028 00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:50.039 revenue with foot traffic. If it's a restaurant, they generate 1029 00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:53.519 sales from the sale of food. Everybody to one of 1030 00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:55.480 my listeners call up the other day and say, where 1031 00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:57.599 does the line form for all the rest of the 1032 00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:00.079 businesses out there to stand and get a high I 1033 00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:02.559 owe taxpayer dollars for their business. 1034 00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:07.559 Yeah, I caught tax cuts, Brian. That's why we've got 1035 00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:10.920 to be one hundred percent bullish on a flat tax. 1036 00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:12.360 And you know, there's going to be a lot to 1037 00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:14.239 I think there's there's gonna be some stuff in there 1038 00:55:14.239 --> 00:55:17.880 about property tax too, and making sure that schools are 1039 00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:21.119 very fair with how they advertise and promote their levies 1040 00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:23.400 and put them on the ballot. So that's good. I 1041 00:55:23.639 --> 00:55:26.519 know that Americans for Prosperity I mentioned Donovan earlier, they've 1042 00:55:26.559 --> 00:55:30.239 been working really hard to untangle the complex tax web 1043 00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:33.360 here in Ohio, so that I am excited about because 1044 00:55:33.400 --> 00:55:35.039 I like keeping more of my own money. 1045 00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:35.719 Ay Man. 1046 00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:39.239 Jack Winsor, editor in chief the Isio Press Network, host 1047 00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:41.920 of The Windsor Report on ninety eight point nine FM, Columbus. 1048 00:55:41.960 --> 00:55:44.400 I'm sure you can stream it. Check him out. 1049 00:55:44.440 --> 00:55:44.639 Jack. 1050 00:55:44.719 --> 00:55:46.360 It's been a pleasure having you on my show man. 1051 00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:47.679 Maybe we can do it again real soon. 1052 00:55:48.239 --> 00:55:49.840 I'd love it. Brian, God bless you brother. 1053 00:55:49.840 --> 00:55:52.039 Take there have a great week to you. 1054 00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:54.119 There. 1055 00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:56.519 It is your chaman. I first one and one forecast. 1056 00:55:56.559 --> 00:55:59.679 Today, we've got rounds of rain and showers to strong 1057 00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:02.880 storms are possible eighty for the high OVERNIGHTLUS sixty seven 1058 00:56:03.400 --> 00:56:07.559 clouds with no rain. Tomorrow, a mostly cloudy day starting 1059 00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:10.679 out dry the afternoon. In the evening, showers of storms 1060 00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:13.840 will develop eighty for the high rain continues over Friday night, 1061 00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:17.079 maybe storms as well. Sixty five for the low and 1062 00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:20.880 mostly cloudy day on Saturday, seventy seven, seventy one. Right now, 1063 00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:24.599 time for traffic update check from the UCL Traffic Center. 1064 00:56:24.679 --> 00:56:28.159 Me and some Americans are living with Alzheimer's or other dementias. 1065 00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:31.159 Find answers from leading brain health experts that you see 1066 00:56:31.159 --> 00:56:32.800 help learn more ad you see. 1067 00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:33.519 Health dot com. 1068 00:56:33.639 --> 00:56:36.679 Cling slate down the Highway so far this morning, no accident, 1069 00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:39.559 instant deal with and I've not seen any delays into 1070 00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:43.639 downtown northbound fourth seventy one continues under five minutes to 1071 00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:47.320 seventy five to the bridge chucking Ramon fifty five krs. 1072 00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:48.679 The talk station. 1073 00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:56.639 Six thirty one and a happy Friday to you one 1074 00:56:56.639 --> 00:56:59.960 hour for now. Jennifer Gross, representing District forty five House 1075 00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:04.159 Representative Gross in studio to talk about Medicaid. She is 1076 00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:06.039 on the Medicaid board. Maybe she can solve some of 1077 00:57:06.079 --> 00:57:08.800 the problems that we just addressed with Jack Windsor and 1078 00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:10.880 one of the few Ohio Republicans who didn't vote for 1079 00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:14.320 the budget, and since taxes are going to rise again, 1080 00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:17.480 started out the program talking about that that'd be property taxes. 1081 00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:19.519 Gerd you'r luins folks. Maybe we'll get a word or 1082 00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:22.360 two on whether we can get some relief from Columbus 1083 00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:24.960 on our property tax bill and pivoting over to local stories. 1084 00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:28.400 We'll call it a local stories because some people weren't 1085 00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:30.639 awake when I brought this up in the five o'clock hour. 1086 00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:35.440 Property taxes across all Ohio counties apparently could increase by 1087 00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:38.119 as much as twenty five percent over the next couple 1088 00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:40.400 of years unless we get some relief from the lawmakers. 1089 00:57:41.639 --> 00:57:45.320 Interviewed by w CPOs Paula Christian, Matt Nolan, president of 1090 00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:49.039 the County saw Auditors Association of Ohiland, Warren County Auditor, said, 1091 00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:51.880 you have to call your legislators and frankly, this has 1092 00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:53.519 to happen now. The more you can reach out to 1093 00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:56.159 them and say this is my number one issue, this 1094 00:57:56.280 --> 00:57:59.079 is gonna shift my vote if you don't do something 1095 00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:03.920 about this that has an impact quota of saying, you're 1096 00:58:03.920 --> 00:58:06.039 going to see what you saw last year in Hamilton 1097 00:58:06.079 --> 00:58:08.400 County happen again. You're going to see a twenty five 1098 00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:12.519 to thirty percent value increase wherever you live. Claremont Butler Warren, 1099 00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:15.119 You're going to see that level of value increase, and 1100 00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:16.760 you're going to see your taxes go up by a 1101 00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:19.440 similar amount. And most every school district in that area 1102 00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:21.719 is going to be at the twenty mil floor, So 1103 00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:24.639 they're going to experience the largest property tax increase they've 1104 00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:29.039 ever experienced. He testified at the Ohio State Finance Committee 1105 00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:33.760 last week, begging urging lawmakers to expand the homestead exemption program, 1106 00:58:33.800 --> 00:58:35.920 cap how much school districts can get from a property 1107 00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:39.039 tax and stop non business credit that goes to out 1108 00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:41.800 of state companies that buy up properties to rent out. 1109 00:58:44.199 --> 00:58:46.760 You know, there's a petition circulating around after this last 1110 00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:51.679 increase that is seeking to eradicate property taxes completely as 1111 00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:56.159 a constitutional amendment, and that's got some people worried. Interviewed 1112 00:58:56.199 --> 00:58:59.199 also Pierce Township trustee Alan Freeman. I think he's serious 1113 00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:02.480 right about this, But so that property tax is how 1114 00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:04.679 we fund police, fire road repairs in any number of 1115 00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:07.320 township services. If you get rid of property taxes completely, 1116 00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:08.639 then we're not going to be able to respond to 1117 00:59:08.679 --> 00:59:11.079 a nine to one one call. That is, unless we 1118 00:59:11.079 --> 00:59:13.280 get some relief from Columbus that con solve that problem, 1119 00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:15.679 and I'm not quite sure how that relief would be created. 1120 00:59:16.760 --> 00:59:18.239 No one said it used to be the values went 1121 00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:20.679 up and rates came down. Now your taxes don't really 1122 00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:24.360 go up that much. That's all changed. Now you're seeing 1123 00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:27.199 your values go up double digits, almost twenty percent this cycle, 1124 00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:29.880 and to be honest, I don't see that changing anytime soon. 1125 00:59:29.920 --> 00:59:32.960 Hamilton County is going to go through a reevaluation. Next year. 1126 00:59:33.639 --> 00:59:35.920 We'll go through one, and I think it's going to 1127 00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:39.519 be very similar numbers twenty five thirty percent value increases 1128 00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:44.880 and twenty percent tax increases. And we can't sustain that. 1129 00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:51.599 They starts socking away the money right now, folks, I'm 1130 00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:54.039 not optimistic that Columbus is going to provide us with 1131 00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:58.800 any relief. Metro Board of Trustees got a new fare structure. 1132 00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:01.440 If you're a bus rider, this will impact you. Fair 1133 01:00:01.559 --> 01:00:05.440 increases proximately ten percent across all service types under the 1134 01:00:05.480 --> 01:00:08.239 new structured local fares two dollars and twenty cents Express 1135 01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:11.880 root fares now three bucks. They say it supports Metro's 1136 01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:15.920 continued investment and enhanced service reliability customer experience, while maintaining 1137 01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:18.239 one of the most affordable fair structures in the region. 1138 01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:21.119 They're got a new fare for children too, updating the 1139 01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:25.000 child fare policy children under fifty five inches tall. It's 1140 01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:28.400 gonna be like a King's Island ride, ride for free 1141 01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:32.360 with a fair paying adult to children per adult limit. 1142 01:00:32.920 --> 01:00:36.360 Children over fifty five inches will pay the fare full 1143 01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:39.559 fare support the charge change. Each bus is now going 1144 01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:42.920 to feature a height indicator at the fifty five inch mark. 1145 01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:45.119 Do you think it's going to be like one of 1146 01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:47.559 the characters that they used to have at King's Island, Joe? 1147 01:00:48.559 --> 01:00:52.159 You stand next to it, you think it's going to 1148 01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:54.199 be a fifty five inch tall aftab per of all 1149 01:00:54.239 --> 01:01:02.000 cutout that's a possibility and held out at fifty five inches. 1150 01:01:02.400 --> 01:01:03.280 I like that. 1151 01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:08.559 Update based on guidance from the Centers for Disease Control 1152 01:01:10.039 --> 01:01:14.039 and the World Health Organization, which report the average height 1153 01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:16.360 of a ten year old child is fifty four point 1154 01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:19.360 five inches regardless of gender. They'n't had to add that 1155 01:01:19.440 --> 01:01:22.400 in there. What about the quick growing kids? Aren't some 1156 01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:24.480 kids out there that grow a lot more quickly than 1157 01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:29.840 others anyway? Also, a tap and save payments a new 1158 01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:32.440 thing that simplifies how riders pay their fares, ensuring that 1159 01:01:32.440 --> 01:01:34.159 they always get the best deals. So instead of buying 1160 01:01:34.199 --> 01:01:37.679 a pass upfront, writers can load funds onto their smartphones 1161 01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:40.760 or smart cards, tap or scan it when they board. 1162 01:01:41.239 --> 01:01:44.079 The system will then track daily and monthly spending, then 1163 01:01:44.159 --> 01:01:47.000 automatically cap the costs at the equivalent of a twenty 1164 01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:50.800 four hour or thirty day pass. Means once writer spends 1165 01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:53.159 the daily or monthly cab, additional rides are free during 1166 01:01:53.159 --> 01:01:55.480 the period. It makes transit more affordable and accessible for 1167 01:01:55.559 --> 01:01:59.840 frequent riders. So new fare structure Corey's online Correy're gonna 1168 01:01:59.840 --> 01:02:01.360 have to on amount of time. It is six thirty 1169 01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:03.880 six already. Time just does fly, doesn't it? And an 1170 01:02:03.880 --> 01:02:07.599 opportunity for me to mention just a wonderful product USA Insulation. 1171 01:02:08.119 --> 01:02:10.000 It's a true investment in your home and a true 1172 01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:14.639 investment in comfort and savings. 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Then every month 1180 01:02:34.199 --> 01:02:36.639 you're using your HVA system, you're going to save money. 1181 01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:39.079 And in the case of my daughter and her fiance, 1182 01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:41.360 they haven't even used their air condition but one time 1183 01:02:41.400 --> 01:02:42.920 this year, and I found out the only reason they 1184 01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:45.000 turned it on that one time is just to see 1185 01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:49.039 if it worked, so an unbelievable comfort of their home. 1186 01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:51.440 That's why we bought the phone form as a housewarming gift. 1187 01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:53.000 And they are really pleased they've got it, and you 1188 01:02:53.039 --> 01:02:55.599 will be too. So they'll check and see if you're 1189 01:02:55.679 --> 01:02:57.599 under insulated. If you know you have some insulation in 1190 01:02:57.639 --> 01:03:00.480 those exterior walls that may be old, it may be tooted, 1191 01:03:00.519 --> 01:03:02.599 it may have settled, and your builder may not have 1192 01:03:03.079 --> 01:03:05.800 put it in correctly in the first place. 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Eighty for the high Today, overnight no rain 1204 01:03:33.239 --> 01:03:36.239 but cloudy skies, and then we get rain tomorrow afternoon 1205 01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:39.760 and evening along with some storms. It'll be cloudy all day. 1206 01:03:39.920 --> 01:03:42.880 Eighty for the high. Overnight, continued rain, sixty five for 1207 01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:46.280 a low, and Saturday just mostly clouds. They said they 1208 01:03:46.280 --> 01:03:49.000 can't rule out some rain over the weekend. Saturday is 1209 01:03:49.039 --> 01:03:50.800 high seventy seven seventy. 1210 01:03:50.480 --> 01:03:52.639 One right now. And let's get an update on traffic. 1211 01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:55.360 From the UC Health Tramping Center. Millions of Americans are 1212 01:03:55.400 --> 01:03:59.440 living with Alzheimer's or other dementias. Find answers from leading 1213 01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:02.920 brain experts at U see help learn more, d you 1214 01:04:02.960 --> 01:04:05.679 see heelp dot com. Highways continue to look pretty good 1215 01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:09.360 this morning. No major problems on inbound seventy four that's 1216 01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:11.960 running less than ten minutes from to seventy five at 1217 01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:15.280 the coal Rings split to the seventy five ramp to 1218 01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:18.280 seventy five. Looks good across the top past months doubler 1219 01:04:18.639 --> 01:04:21.760 Chuck Ingram on fifty five kr SE the talk station. 1220 01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:29.079 It's six forty one. I heard me the abas. Next work, 1221 01:04:29.159 --> 01:04:30.760 Jay ratt Love, he'll be on at eight thirty. We'll 1222 01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:32.800 get here from Jennifer Gross will be in studio High 1223 01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:37.039 State Representative Representative Growth Gross seven point thirty two eighty 1224 01:04:37.119 --> 01:04:39.199 thirty one. We'll hear from Jay thereafter. In the meantime, 1225 01:04:39.199 --> 01:04:41.440 over to the phones. Let's see what Corey's got this morning. Corey, 1226 01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:42.440 Happy Thursday to you. 1227 01:04:42.519 --> 01:04:46.960 Welcome, Hey, Happy Friday. Is the there Ryan, Thanks. 1228 01:04:46.719 --> 01:04:50.719 For couble re quick on property text? What Jay the 1229 01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:54.280 song got earlier? The auditor value in his property. If 1230 01:04:54.280 --> 01:04:56.719 he goes gets his own appraisal, I go get a 1231 01:04:56.800 --> 01:04:59.679 home equity loan. That's what I did. Found out my 1232 01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:02.199 you was one hundred thousand dollars less than what the 1233 01:05:02.320 --> 01:05:06.239 county said. Yeah, Homeport, that might be one way to 1234 01:05:06.239 --> 01:05:06.559 do it. 1235 01:05:06.639 --> 01:05:09.119 You are absolutely carry, You are absolutely right. That is 1236 01:05:09.199 --> 01:05:11.760 I failed to mention that. It obviously wasn't in the 1237 01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:13.840 forefront of my mind when I was mentioning the comps 1238 01:05:14.159 --> 01:05:17.159 and the other sales in the general neighborhood. So that 1239 01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:20.159 is an excellent idea, and it is something you can 1240 01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:23.039 do to take in when you make your case, appreciate that. 1241 01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:28.159 And then the secondly, I think as far as property tax, 1242 01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:31.000 I think there's it's an American for there property tax 1243 01:05:31.039 --> 01:05:34.559 on the residential property from something you bought, be taxes 1244 01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:37.639 for to it sports a recurring thing. That state can 1245 01:05:37.719 --> 01:05:40.559 take your home that you paid off and lived in 1246 01:05:40.639 --> 01:05:44.400 for years because say a thousand dollars of vote back taxes. 1247 01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:47.079 I think that's an American And I support elimination of 1248 01:05:47.239 --> 01:05:51.960 property tax or residential properties, and I think that somebody 1249 01:05:51.960 --> 01:05:56.840 would present that. I think it'd be a winning, winning bill. 1250 01:05:57.119 --> 01:05:59.599 Well, that's what that ballot petition is being circulated, is 1251 01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:02.639 right now be a constitutional amendment to eliminate property tax 1252 01:06:02.679 --> 01:06:05.000 in the state of Ohio. And I'm sure if one 1253 01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:09.320 of the petition circulators comes to your front door, I imagine 1254 01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:12.760 you probably will sign it. Question is the follow through 1255 01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:16.440 if that were to pass and they did eradicate property 1256 01:06:16.480 --> 01:06:19.199 taxes along the lines of what you want, how do 1257 01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:22.599 we go about reef or funding all of the different 1258 01:06:23.719 --> 01:06:26.960 things that rely like the parks, the schools, the fire department, 1259 01:06:27.039 --> 01:06:30.840 the police. How do we go and restructure their funding mechanism? 1260 01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:33.320 Is it going to be from a state tax. Do 1261 01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:35.840 we increase the income or rather the not the income 1262 01:06:35.880 --> 01:06:37.960 tax are just going to flatten that out? Do we 1263 01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:41.119 increase the sales tax redistributed? Then there's the how does 1264 01:06:41.159 --> 01:06:43.440 it get redistributed? Is it going to be fairness in 1265 01:06:43.519 --> 01:06:48.199 that with each police department fighting over some sort of 1266 01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:51.280 limited bucket of money the devil's and the details on that. 1267 01:06:52.039 --> 01:06:53.760 And then the other argument is counter to what you 1268 01:06:53.800 --> 01:06:57.599 are saying. Yes, it seems fundamentally unfair to tax someone 1269 01:06:57.679 --> 01:06:59.960 to the point where they might lose the house they 1270 01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:03.920 lived in and paid for and own outright for fair 1271 01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:07.679 to pay property taxes, But that homeowner does get the 1272 01:07:07.719 --> 01:07:11.519 benefit of the services that are funded by the property tax. 1273 01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:14.480 For example, if the house caught fire, the fire department 1274 01:07:14.519 --> 01:07:16.960 would show up to put it out. If there's a crime, 1275 01:07:17.159 --> 01:07:19.280 of course you call nine one one in hopefully the 1276 01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:23.719 police will arrive before your dead. I know it's overstatement, 1277 01:07:23.760 --> 01:07:26.199 but you get the idea. So people who live in 1278 01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:31.400 their homes do rely on funded government programs and they 1279 01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:33.880 get the benefit of those, so it's not like they're 1280 01:07:34.559 --> 01:07:40.000 you know that there's no free ride in essence, So 1281 01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:42.800 if someone can figure out a better funding mechanism so 1282 01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:45.079 we don't have to rely on property taxes and the 1283 01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:49.519 seemingly arbitrary manner in which they are calculated. I welcome 1284 01:07:49.559 --> 01:07:53.840 the suggestions because then we can start demanding that our 1285 01:07:53.880 --> 01:07:56.760 elected officials in Columbus get on it and start doing 1286 01:07:56.760 --> 01:08:00.000 something about it. But man, it's a huge red flash. 1287 01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:02.559 After all the pain people went through in Hamilton County 1288 01:08:02.559 --> 01:08:05.559 and the other counties had this thirty percent increase in taxes, 1289 01:08:05.599 --> 01:08:10.239 and mine went up too, and you know it's coming again, 1290 01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:13.920 at least that's what we've been warned. How long can 1291 01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:17.199 this go on? I mean, the only thing that could 1292 01:08:17.239 --> 01:08:20.239 happen that might end up lowering them is if the 1293 01:08:20.279 --> 01:08:22.439 bottom falls out of the real estate market and you're 1294 01:08:22.439 --> 01:08:24.880 now let's say two hundred and fifty thousand dollars home 1295 01:08:24.960 --> 01:08:27.039 ends up having a value of one hundred thousand dollars, 1296 01:08:27.119 --> 01:08:31.319 because well, we are living in a recession or a 1297 01:08:32.279 --> 01:08:34.840 maybe a depression, and I don't think anybody wants to 1298 01:08:34.880 --> 01:08:37.039 go through that in order to get their property taxes down. 1299 01:08:38.760 --> 01:08:40.720 Six forty five right now, fifty five care see the 1300 01:08:40.880 --> 01:08:43.239 talk station, chimneycare, fireplace and stove. 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It's seventy one degrees right now. 1342 01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:47.880 It's time for a traffic update from the UCF Traffic Center. 1343 01:10:47.960 --> 01:10:51.319 Millions of Americans so I living with Alzheimer's or other dimensions, 1344 01:10:51.359 --> 01:10:54.199 find answers from leading brain health experts, and you see 1345 01:10:54.199 --> 01:10:56.479 health learn more Age, you see health dot Com. 1346 01:10:56.600 --> 01:10:57.760 North Bend, seventy five. 1347 01:10:57.800 --> 01:10:59.920 All of a sudden, I'm seeing some very having traffic 1348 01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:02.600 through the cut, and I'm looking for a problem near 1349 01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:05.560 twelve Street. It's an accident in the sloaning traffic on 1350 01:11:05.640 --> 01:11:10.159 two seventy five, especially eastbound near Winton Road. Let lanes 1351 01:11:10.199 --> 01:11:12.960 blocked on both sides of the highway. Chuck Ingram on 1352 01:11:13.039 --> 01:11:15.319 fifty five KRS deep talk station. 1353 01:11:17.960 --> 01:11:20.960 Six point fifty one. It's coming up on the fifty 1354 01:11:20.960 --> 01:11:24.680 five KRCD talk station. Looking forward to having Representative Jennifer 1355 01:11:24.680 --> 01:11:27.159 Gross and studio to talk about medicaid in Ohio and 1356 01:11:27.279 --> 01:11:30.079 the budget that's going on. We'll get her thoughts and 1357 01:11:30.119 --> 01:11:33.560 comments about what we can do about property taxes anyway. 1358 01:11:33.560 --> 01:11:35.640 Shall be in the studio for a full hour beginning 1359 01:11:35.640 --> 01:11:37.560 at seven thirty, So looking forward to that. And then 1360 01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:39.520 of course I always love talking to Jay Rattliffe. I 1361 01:11:39.600 --> 01:11:42.640 heard me the aviation expert that takes place every Thursday 1362 01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:43.640 at a thirty. 1363 01:11:44.560 --> 01:11:45.560 This is a very. 1364 01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:48.199 Disturbing thing that I read Matt margolis O, a PJA 1365 01:11:48.319 --> 01:11:52.960 media reporting on this, and I think everyone can admit 1366 01:11:53.039 --> 01:11:56.439 and acknowledge that the level of violence waged against people 1367 01:11:56.640 --> 01:12:01.079 is getting is escalating political violence. Most we got violence 1368 01:12:01.119 --> 01:12:03.920 and anger expressed against Jewish people merely because they happen 1369 01:12:03.960 --> 01:12:10.720 to be Jewish, got executives being gunned down and then 1370 01:12:10.720 --> 01:12:19.439 applauded for doing so. It's a de evolution of society 1371 01:12:19.560 --> 01:12:24.199 and pivoting over to ICE agents, immigrations and customs enforcement 1372 01:12:24.279 --> 01:12:27.479 doing their job enforcing the law. You can disagree with 1373 01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:31.960 the immigration law, but we had an overwhelming invasion of 1374 01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:34.479 our country during the Bide administration. I don't think anybody 1375 01:12:34.479 --> 01:12:37.640 can argue against the addition of ten to twenty million 1376 01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:40.840 new people in our country that came in here illegally, 1377 01:12:40.880 --> 01:12:43.560 not following the laws and processes in place, let in 1378 01:12:43.600 --> 01:12:46.319 and practically well and literally invited in many cases by 1379 01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:52.159 the Biden administration, with two million known god aways, their 1380 01:12:52.199 --> 01:12:57.640 motives completely unknown, their identity is completely unknown. And now 1381 01:12:57.640 --> 01:13:00.000 I find out that ICE agents have now become target 1382 01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:05.079 of left wing left wingers, harassing, doxing, and threatening them 1383 01:13:05.199 --> 01:13:07.600 simply for doing their job and of holding the law. 1384 01:13:09.159 --> 01:13:12.640 In a recent press conference, Acting ICE Director Toddlines talked 1385 01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:15.079 about this growing danger that his agents facing not just 1386 01:13:15.079 --> 01:13:18.720 from violent criminals, but from radical activists who want to 1387 01:13:18.760 --> 01:13:21.640 expose and intimidate them into silence, maybe even not to 1388 01:13:21.640 --> 01:13:24.199 not do their job. He said a lot of agencies 1389 01:13:24.239 --> 01:13:26.199 were invited to come out two weeks ago in Los 1390 01:13:26.199 --> 01:13:30.159 Angeles where we ran an operation where ICE officers were docksed. 1391 01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:32.960 People are out there taking photos of the names, their 1392 01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:36.600 faces and posting them online with death threats to their 1393 01:13:36.640 --> 01:13:41.119 family and themselves. He pointed out one case, ICE worked 1394 01:13:41.159 --> 01:13:43.960 with the Secret Service to arrest an individual who had 1395 01:13:43.960 --> 01:13:48.439 been actively targeting agents and their families, saying, we arrested 1396 01:13:48.439 --> 01:13:51.880 someone that was going online taking their photos, posting their families, 1397 01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:59.680 their kids, Instagram, their kids facebooks, and targeting in them 1398 01:13:59.800 --> 01:14:02.880 and he pivoted over to outrage. It's expressed by these 1399 01:14:02.960 --> 01:14:06.119 left wing activists that the ICE agents are now covering 1400 01:14:06.119 --> 01:14:08.439 their faces. And I'm sorry if people are offended by 1401 01:14:08.520 --> 01:14:11.119 them wearing masks, but I'm not going to let my 1402 01:14:11.159 --> 01:14:13.520 officers and agents go out there and put their lives 1403 01:14:13.560 --> 01:14:16.600 on the line and their families on the line because 1404 01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:21.880 people don't like what immigration enforcement is. He was pressed further, 1405 01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:26.399 he challenged the priorities is is that the issue here 1406 01:14:27.560 --> 01:14:31.680 that were just upset about masks? Or is anyway up 1407 01:14:31.720 --> 01:14:34.319 said about the fact that ICE officers families were labeled 1408 01:14:34.439 --> 01:14:42.199 terrorists they report the story gets even worse, not just 1409 01:14:42.279 --> 01:14:45.399 ICE agents and their families being targeted by left wing activists, 1410 01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:48.600 but now Democrats in Washington are openly threatening to docks 1411 01:14:48.720 --> 01:14:52.600 ICE personnel themselves, aiding and a betting those who want 1412 01:14:52.600 --> 01:14:56.800 to intimidate in danger in silence federal law enforcement. House 1413 01:14:56.920 --> 01:15:05.199 Minority Leader Jakeim Jeffreys quote, every single ICE agent who's 1414 01:15:05.239 --> 01:15:09.039 engaged in this aggressive overreach are and are trying to 1415 01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:12.600 hide their identities from the American people will be unsuccessful 1416 01:15:12.680 --> 01:15:16.199 in doing that. This is America, this is not the 1417 01:15:16.239 --> 01:15:18.920 Soviet Union. We're not behind the Iron curtain, this is 1418 01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:22.560 not the nineteen thirties, and every single one of them, 1419 01:15:22.600 --> 01:15:25.760 no matter what it takes, no matter how long it takes, 1420 01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:34.399 will of course be identified. House Minority Leader, How came Jeffreys, 1421 01:15:36.560 --> 01:15:43.479 why so he's part, I guess of this growing group 1422 01:15:43.800 --> 01:15:48.000 who wants these agents harassed, docksed, and maybe even murdered. 1423 01:15:51.199 --> 01:15:52.000 He didn't have anything to. 1424 01:15:51.960 --> 01:15:54.720 Say about Antifi or the other protesters out there, you know, 1425 01:15:55.000 --> 01:15:59.079 waging war in the streets with their masks on the 1426 01:15:59.279 --> 01:16:03.800 violent pro Palestinian actually pro Hamas folks who are regularly 1427 01:16:03.920 --> 01:16:09.000 showing up fully masked and engaging in violent and angry 1428 01:16:09.039 --> 01:16:23.159 confrontations with Jewish people. Not a word. And as Matt 1429 01:16:23.239 --> 01:16:27.720 Margoli's notes, considering the lead in to his comment Soviet Union, 1430 01:16:27.760 --> 01:16:30.399 we're not the iron curtains in the nineteen thirties. Comparing 1431 01:16:30.439 --> 01:16:35.920 Ice agents federal officers lawfully enforcing an immigration policy to 1432 01:16:36.159 --> 01:16:40.920 Nazis and Soviet secret police isn't just vile, it's calculated 1433 01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:44.880 and dangerous. He's deliberately smearing these agents to justify their 1434 01:16:44.880 --> 01:16:48.399 public targeting and harassment. It's not just reckless, it's an 1435 01:16:48.439 --> 01:16:52.159 open invitation for extremists to hunt down law enforcement officers 1436 01:16:52.199 --> 01:16:56.359 and their families. This isn't leadership, its incitement, and it 1437 01:16:56.399 --> 01:17:00.760 speaks volumes about the radical, unhinged direction of today's Democrat Party. 1438 01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:02.199 Amen Matt. 1439 01:17:03.720 --> 01:17:06.560 Six fifty six fifty five KRCD Talk Station. Feel free 1440 01:17:06.600 --> 01:17:08.319 to call me back back after the news. 1441 01:17:08.760 --> 01:17:12.319 News happens fast, stay up to date. At the top 1442 01:17:12.359 --> 01:17:15.800 of the hour, We're moving very quickly. Fifty five krc 1443 01:17:16.520 --> 01:17:17.560 the talk station. 1444 01:17:18.079 --> 01:17:18.840 This week. 1445 01:17:33.239 --> 01:17:36.439 Sevenh six fifty five kr CD Talk Station, a very 1446 01:17:36.479 --> 01:17:40.680 happy Thursday slash Friday Eve to you and I hope 1447 01:17:40.680 --> 01:17:42.199 you can stick around. We've got a little time between 1448 01:17:42.239 --> 01:17:43.680 now the bottom of the air when Jennifer grows So 1449 01:17:43.720 --> 01:17:46.840 High State Representative District forty five joins the program. Sho'll 1450 01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:48.720 be in studio for a full hour. We will talk 1451 01:17:48.760 --> 01:17:52.000 about Medicaid since she is on the Medicaid Board. Perfect 1452 01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:55.520 timing considering Jack Windsor from the Windsor Report was on. 1453 01:17:55.560 --> 01:18:00.079 He's been investigating this and following the money and apparently 1454 01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:02.319 it's a terrible situation in terms of fraud, waste, and 1455 01:18:02.359 --> 01:18:06.039 abuse here in Ohio based upon the actual numbers, Jennifer, 1456 01:18:06.079 --> 01:18:08.760 are you talking about that? We'll talk about the budget votes. 1457 01:18:08.760 --> 01:18:10.119 She was one of the few Republicans who did not 1458 01:18:10.199 --> 01:18:12.600 vote for the budget. And maybe get a word or 1459 01:18:12.600 --> 01:18:19.520 two about property taxes. Someone that former auditor for Hamilton 1460 01:18:19.560 --> 01:18:22.079 County Dusty Roads knows something about score to the phones 1461 01:18:22.119 --> 01:18:24.880 and see what he's got to say. Dusty, welcome to 1462 01:18:24.920 --> 01:18:27.960 the program, my friend. Great seeing yesterday listener, laun Jope, 1463 01:18:27.960 --> 01:18:29.159 you had as good a time as I did. 1464 01:18:30.359 --> 01:18:35.720 It was fabulous as always good time. The problem with 1465 01:18:35.920 --> 01:18:42.640 the property tax they solved it in the nineteen seventies, 1466 01:18:43.960 --> 01:18:48.600 I believe. And what they did was when values jumped, 1467 01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:53.399 they rolled back the millage of every voted levy so 1468 01:18:53.520 --> 01:18:58.800 that you're voting for money, not millage. And if your 1469 01:18:58.920 --> 01:19:05.359 value doubled, your taxes went down. Most of them, everything 1470 01:19:05.359 --> 01:19:09.640 above the first ten mills, and that's most of eighty 1471 01:19:09.720 --> 01:19:15.079 percent of the taxes. The problem is the schools pushed 1472 01:19:15.159 --> 01:19:20.560 a twenty mili floor option in to the mix in 1473 01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:24.279 the late eighties, and they were crying that they were 1474 01:19:24.680 --> 01:19:30.119 getting no benefit from inflation when they had to go 1475 01:19:30.239 --> 01:19:33.079 back for levees all the time. So with the twenty 1476 01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:37.960 mil floor, they exempted the school tax from the rollback. 1477 01:19:38.680 --> 01:19:44.279 And what happens is when real estate jumps like it does, 1478 01:19:44.560 --> 01:19:49.960 it doesn't track inflation. The taxes go way up in 1479 01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:53.560 those school districts that are at the twenty mil floor, 1480 01:19:53.920 --> 01:19:57.239 and the schools can jigger their budgets to get onto 1481 01:19:57.279 --> 01:20:01.319 the twenty miil floor. There's a about seven or eight 1482 01:20:01.479 --> 01:20:06.880 Hamilton County, including violent old Kills, and all the schools 1483 01:20:06.920 --> 01:20:09.359 in Butler County are at the twenty mili floor. So 1484 01:20:09.680 --> 01:20:14.560 every time they get a big jump in values, the 1485 01:20:14.680 --> 01:20:17.439 taxes go up and the school has got a win 1486 01:20:17.560 --> 01:20:22.439 fall unvoted tax money. And that's the answer. And nobody 1487 01:20:22.520 --> 01:20:25.800 will talk about the twenty mili floor in Columbus. 1488 01:20:25.960 --> 01:20:32.479 Well, and wonderful explanation, and I appreciate it, but I'm 1489 01:20:32.520 --> 01:20:34.920 going back to the now. I believe twenty year old 1490 01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:37.319 Supreme Court decision was just says the way we fund 1491 01:20:37.840 --> 01:20:40.479 schools here in the state of Ohio is unconstitutional, and 1492 01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:43.479 they haven't done anything about it in twenty years. 1493 01:20:44.199 --> 01:20:47.960 Well, that's another issue. I'm talking about the fact that 1494 01:20:48.039 --> 01:20:52.159 property taxes aren't supposed to blow out of sight when 1495 01:20:52.279 --> 01:20:58.359 values go up. There's a kicker in there that rolls 1496 01:20:58.399 --> 01:21:05.560 back the levees and the schools evaded with the twenty 1497 01:21:05.560 --> 01:21:10.479 mili floor option, and the property owner gets screwed. I mean, 1498 01:21:10.520 --> 01:21:15.600 it's that simple, and I know the Supreme Court ruled 1499 01:21:15.640 --> 01:21:21.319 in the legislature order. That's another issue. I'm talking about 1500 01:21:21.399 --> 01:21:25.279 property taxes and they're not supposed to go up a 1501 01:21:25.319 --> 01:21:29.439 lot when values go up, and the schools got around 1502 01:21:29.479 --> 01:21:34.039 it and they don't have to pass a levee and 1503 01:21:34.199 --> 01:21:37.960 old kills for the next whatever because they're getting unvoted 1504 01:21:38.039 --> 01:21:44.319 tax increases. And that's the secret, and the legislators won't 1505 01:21:44.319 --> 01:21:48.199 address it and won't even talk about it. But that's 1506 01:21:48.279 --> 01:21:51.520 the boogeyman in this whole thing. Is the twenty mili 1507 01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:53.720 floor exemption for schools. 1508 01:21:54.439 --> 01:21:56.720 Well, Dusty, none of this is a curveball if you 1509 01:21:56.720 --> 01:21:58.680 can address or do you have any thoughts or ideas 1510 01:21:58.680 --> 01:22:01.119 about it. I mean, all of this massive increase in 1511 01:22:01.199 --> 01:22:04.880 property taxes as a result in this grassroots group collecting 1512 01:22:04.880 --> 01:22:07.680 signatures to put a constitutional amendment on the November ballot 1513 01:22:07.680 --> 01:22:12.319 to eliminate property taxes altogether. Is that even something that's feasible? 1514 01:22:12.479 --> 01:22:14.159 Is there a way? I mean, if that were to 1515 01:22:14.319 --> 01:22:17.960 pass and we were eradicated property taxes, the whole funding 1516 01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:23.880 structure for police, fire, the school's parks, I mean, you 1517 01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:26.039 name it, all of that will be turned on its head. 1518 01:22:26.359 --> 01:22:29.399 Is there any workaround should something like that go through 1519 01:22:29.439 --> 01:22:29.840 and pass. 1520 01:22:31.119 --> 01:22:35.239 I don't know, that's the problem, and you put your 1521 01:22:35.239 --> 01:22:38.520 finger on it Ramaswami said he was going to end 1522 01:22:38.600 --> 01:22:41.800 property taxes, but he didn't say he always going to 1523 01:22:41.880 --> 01:22:46.279 replace the income So that's a problem. But on the 1524 01:22:46.319 --> 01:22:50.199 other hand, they brought it on themselves by getting around 1525 01:22:50.239 --> 01:22:56.079 that rollback and taking unvoted tax increases, So they brought 1526 01:22:56.119 --> 01:22:59.600 it on themselves and lots of luck. I mean, you 1527 01:22:59.680 --> 01:23:03.479 could put a fifteen percent sales tax on everything, I 1528 01:23:03.520 --> 01:23:08.159 guess raise the income tax. But it's like the old 1529 01:23:08.279 --> 01:23:12.720 here you alone, don't tax you doing text me, text 1530 01:23:12.760 --> 01:23:14.479 that man behind the tree. 1531 01:23:14.680 --> 01:23:16.680 Yeah, yeah, well, and you know that. 1532 01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:22.119 I would actually, you know, conceptually, even consider a sales 1533 01:23:22.159 --> 01:23:25.039 tax increase as long as it wasn't outrageous to do 1534 01:23:25.119 --> 01:23:27.800 it that way. But the problem with that is it's 1535 01:23:27.840 --> 01:23:30.840 like federal tax dollars. They take them from us here locally, 1536 01:23:30.920 --> 01:23:33.239 it goes to Washington, d c. And then anytime you 1537 01:23:33.239 --> 01:23:35.600 want to get the money back, it comes with strings attached, 1538 01:23:35.720 --> 01:23:39.159 or it's not fairly allocated. Someone's always left out, And 1539 01:23:39.199 --> 01:23:42.279 so every year there'd be this scrap and fight between 1540 01:23:42.680 --> 01:23:45.640 you know, this township, that township, this police department, that 1541 01:23:45.640 --> 01:23:47.640 police department. You didn't give me enough, you gave too 1542 01:23:47.680 --> 01:23:50.800 much to Cleveland because they're too well connected or whatever. 1543 01:23:51.199 --> 01:23:55.279 So the redistribution of the pot of money from the 1544 01:23:55.319 --> 01:23:58.319 additional sales tax will be fought over, and I think 1545 01:23:58.319 --> 01:24:01.079 that would represent represent an on goaling battle and challenge 1546 01:24:01.079 --> 01:24:03.039 for everyone for sure. 1547 01:24:03.319 --> 01:24:07.439 For sure. But the property tax they solved it. Uh, 1548 01:24:07.479 --> 01:24:11.479 and then the school's got a work around in the 1549 01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:14.439 late eighties and that up end of the whole thing. 1550 01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:19.479 If that rollback was an effect for all every voted levy, 1551 01:24:20.039 --> 01:24:25.039 the increase wouldn't have been that much it was in miniuschool. 1552 01:24:25.560 --> 01:24:29.039 But that's the problem, and nobody wants to mess up, 1553 01:24:30.039 --> 01:24:34.960 so lots of luck to them. Ask your state representative 1554 01:24:35.039 --> 01:24:40.720 guest what she thinks about the twenty milter floor, and 1555 01:24:40.920 --> 01:24:46.159 that's the solution, and good luck to the people. I mean, 1556 01:24:46.239 --> 01:24:50.920 I hate property taxes, but like you say, what are you. 1557 01:24:51.880 --> 01:24:53.399 Replace them with? Yeah? 1558 01:24:53.439 --> 01:24:56.880 But so now the spear real quick does before we 1559 01:24:56.920 --> 01:25:01.720 part company. And so the idea would be to reduce 1560 01:25:01.840 --> 01:25:04.840 the twenty mil floor down to what ten Just repeal that. 1561 01:25:05.039 --> 01:25:10.279 Yeah, I repeal it. Let the school taxes be treated 1562 01:25:10.399 --> 01:25:14.000 as every other tax. The fire department didn't get any 1563 01:25:14.039 --> 01:25:16.800 more money when the values were not because their levy 1564 01:25:17.239 --> 01:25:22.720 rolls rolled back. The police department didn't get any more money, 1565 01:25:22.880 --> 01:25:26.520 but the schools, if they were under this funny mill floor, 1566 01:25:26.840 --> 01:25:27.800 got a wind fault. 1567 01:25:29.199 --> 01:25:32.319 Well, you answered the question for our listeners. I'm glad 1568 01:25:32.319 --> 01:25:34.840 you were out there, man, because I'd been scratching my 1569 01:25:34.880 --> 01:25:38.000 head over the whole reality of this, and I figured 1570 01:25:38.039 --> 01:25:39.880 you were the man. Hell, you were at the Helm 1571 01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:41.960 for such a long time in the auditor's department, you 1572 01:25:42.000 --> 01:25:44.640 at least have the answer to why we're dealing with 1573 01:25:44.720 --> 01:25:48.199 is right now. Great seeing you yesterday, man. It's always 1574 01:25:48.199 --> 01:25:50.600 a pleasure to have you in our company, and I'm 1575 01:25:50.600 --> 01:25:53.560 sure my listeners enjoyed having you there as well. Seeing 1576 01:25:53.560 --> 01:25:55.319 another one down the road, but Dusty. 1577 01:25:56.319 --> 01:25:58.399 I'll see you then, Brian, thanks a lot. 1578 01:25:58.319 --> 01:26:00.840 Thanks brother. Great hearing from you today. Five three, seven, 1579 01:26:00.840 --> 01:26:02.720 four nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eight to 1580 01:26:02.800 --> 01:26:05.000 two three talk found five fifty on the at and 1581 01:26:05.039 --> 01:26:05.399 T fund. 1582 01:26:05.439 --> 01:26:05.600 Yeah. 1583 01:26:05.640 --> 01:26:07.600 I added that to my list of topics for Jennifer 1584 01:26:07.640 --> 01:26:11.159 grows And speaking of listener lunch, it is confirmed I 1585 01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:13.520 found out from Debbie who has been kind enough to 1586 01:26:13.560 --> 01:26:16.680 take on the responsibility of lining up listening lunch. We 1587 01:26:16.800 --> 01:26:20.039 will be I love the name of this place. Wandering 1588 01:26:20.399 --> 01:26:24.640 Monsters Brew and Barbecue. They're located on Beachmont Avenue, so 1589 01:26:24.720 --> 01:26:31.079 that will be for the ninth of July were I 1590 01:26:31.159 --> 01:26:33.720 know it's always the first Wednesday, but the first Wednesday 1591 01:26:33.760 --> 01:26:35.960 is July second, and I don't want to interfere with 1592 01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:39.159 people's Independence Day plans since it's two days later, So 1593 01:26:39.199 --> 01:26:41.279 we'll kick it off to the following week, July ninth, 1594 01:26:41.359 --> 01:26:44.520 Market on your calendar, and we can all enjoy Wandering 1595 01:26:44.640 --> 01:26:48.359 Monsters Brew and Barbecue together at the next listener lunch. 1596 01:26:48.399 --> 01:26:52.720 And thanks again to Mattrie. That Summit Park location that 1597 01:26:52.800 --> 01:26:55.920 was outstanding. We will definitely be back there again. They 1598 01:26:56.079 --> 01:26:58.960 treated as nice. I got a lot of wide great 1599 01:26:59.000 --> 01:27:01.359 reports about the food, although I wasn't able to eat. 1600 01:27:01.680 --> 01:27:04.119 I spent my whole time walking around the room and talking. 1601 01:27:05.039 --> 01:27:07.720 But I did win my cribbage game three in a row. Mike, 1602 01:27:08.279 --> 01:27:12.880 that's three in a row, Buddy seven fifteen thirty five 1603 01:27:12.960 --> 01:27:16.319 care CD talk station. Heap loads of money talking about 1604 01:27:16.359 --> 01:27:17.560 it all the time, and I know a way you 1605 01:27:17.560 --> 01:27:18.199 can save it. 1606 01:27:18.800 --> 01:27:20.479 Lots like I have. 1607 01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:24.640 Go to affordable imaging services to get your mri CT scans, 1608 01:27:24.680 --> 01:27:28.880 echo cardiograms and ultrasounds for a just a mere fraction 1609 01:27:28.960 --> 01:27:31.600 of the hospital imaging department thirty five hundred bucks for 1610 01:27:31.600 --> 01:27:33.680 an echo cardiogram, you probably wait around a month to 1611 01:27:33.680 --> 01:27:36.199 even get in. They're backed up at the hospital imaging department, 1612 01:27:36.199 --> 01:27:38.039 at least by all accounts, that's what they've told me 1613 01:27:38.199 --> 01:27:41.239 or I've heard. So rather than spending thirty five hundred bucks, 1614 01:27:41.239 --> 01:27:44.239 spend five hundred no enhancement, five hundred bucks eight hundred 1615 01:27:44.239 --> 01:27:48.600 with an enhancement MRI thirty five hundred bucks. NIOP, don't 1616 01:27:48.600 --> 01:27:52.159 need an enhancement or a contrast, it's only four hundred 1617 01:27:52.159 --> 01:27:57.279 and ninety five bucks. Yeah, and the one that blows 1618 01:27:57.319 --> 01:27:59.720 my mind. A CT scan at a hospital cut you 1619 01:27:59.760 --> 01:28:03.640 about five grand. Affordable imaging services four fifty without a 1620 01:28:03.680 --> 01:28:06.640 contrast six hundred with all of the services at affordable, 1621 01:28:06.720 --> 01:28:09.119 every image comes included in the price, with the board 1622 01:28:09.159 --> 01:28:12.920 certified radiologists report. I've gone there, I've had MRI, I've 1623 01:28:12.960 --> 01:28:16.000 had CT scans quite a few of those. Never a 1624 01:28:16.039 --> 01:28:21.199 complaint by my physician. So it's the same equipment, it's 1625 01:28:21.199 --> 01:28:23.199 the same kind of people operating it. They've been at 1626 01:28:23.199 --> 01:28:26.079 this for years, so rely on them. Save yourself a 1627 01:28:26.079 --> 01:28:28.239 lot of money. Five one three seven five three eight thousand, 1628 01:28:28.640 --> 01:28:31.279 five one three seven five three eight thousand low overhead. 1629 01:28:31.319 --> 01:28:34.319 I will admit, but what are you looking for? Looking 1630 01:28:34.399 --> 01:28:36.800 for the right equipment and competent people and you get 1631 01:28:36.840 --> 01:28:41.239 that find them on the website Affordable Medimaging dot com. 1632 01:28:41.560 --> 01:28:44.880 This is fifty five KRC an iHeartRadio station. 1633 01:28:48.199 --> 01:28:50.319 Here is your ten nine first one to weather forecast. 1634 01:28:50.359 --> 01:28:52.760 We have rounds of rain and showers today, maybe some 1635 01:28:52.800 --> 01:28:54.680 strong storms in the mix as well. Eighty for the 1636 01:28:54.760 --> 01:29:00.279 high sixty seven overnight, no rain, just clouds. Mostly cloudy 1637 01:29:00.439 --> 01:29:04.000 tomorrow as well, with afternoon and evening showers and maybe storms. 1638 01:29:04.920 --> 01:29:08.039 Eighty for the eye overnightlow sixty five with rain continuing 1639 01:29:08.079 --> 01:29:11.159 and then disc clouds on Saturday. They said they can't 1640 01:29:11.239 --> 01:29:14.199 rule out rain for the weekend, but slight chance anyway, 1641 01:29:14.319 --> 01:29:16.239 seventy seven Saturday's high seventy one. 1642 01:29:16.279 --> 01:29:19.680 Right now, time for a traffic updates from the UCL 1643 01:29:19.720 --> 01:29:20.399 Traffic Center. 1644 01:29:20.439 --> 01:29:24.560 Millions of the Americans are living with Alzheimer's and other dementias. 1645 01:29:24.640 --> 01:29:27.960 Fine dancers from leading brain health experts at you see 1646 01:29:27.960 --> 01:29:31.039 help learn more ADU seehelp dot com. Two rex he 1647 01:29:31.159 --> 01:29:34.520 Spound two to seventy five, the first near Winton left 1648 01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:38.279 lane block traffic backspast Hamilton Avenue. The second at mass 1649 01:29:38.279 --> 01:29:42.359 Stellar right lanes block traffic backs past seventy five inbound 1650 01:29:42.359 --> 01:29:46.119 seventy four, So slow go from above Montana Chuck Ingram Moon. 1651 01:29:46.159 --> 01:29:48.439 Fifty five krs the talk station. 1652 01:29:50.319 --> 01:29:54.840 Seven twenty fifty five KRC Detalk Station Friday. Jennifer Gross 1653 01:29:55.560 --> 01:29:57.399 waiting in the wings should be joining me at the 1654 01:29:57.439 --> 01:29:59.439 next segment and spending a full hour in studio talk 1655 01:29:59.439 --> 01:30:02.000 about matter here in the state of Ohio, including medicaid, 1656 01:30:02.079 --> 01:30:04.479 including the budget, including the twenty mil four of the 1657 01:30:04.560 --> 01:30:07.479 Dusty just brought up. Unless she's ready for that, we're 1658 01:30:07.479 --> 01:30:09.560 gonna get it anyway. Bobby, welcome to the program, Thanks 1659 01:30:09.560 --> 01:30:11.079 for calling this morning. Good to hear from you. 1660 01:30:12.159 --> 01:30:13.560 Good to hear you, my friend. 1661 01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:17.159 I got some information about the EPA and FEMA and 1662 01:30:17.199 --> 01:30:19.720 everything with East Palastine just came out in the last 1663 01:30:19.760 --> 01:30:25.239 couple of days, but the unmet needs reports were never issued. 1664 01:30:26.079 --> 01:30:30.680 All this information is coordinated by FEMA, the White House, EPA, 1665 01:30:31.159 --> 01:30:36.039 National Security Council, and the Department of Justice. Emails are 1666 01:30:36.039 --> 01:30:39.159 coming out now from Lee Selden and everything. I'm just 1667 01:30:39.239 --> 01:30:41.600 wondering what our governor in the state of Ohio and 1668 01:30:41.680 --> 01:30:45.319 the state EPA didn't want to publish the information. 1669 01:30:45.159 --> 01:30:46.319 Your term about Palestine. 1670 01:30:47.479 --> 01:30:50.760 Yes's Palestine's Yeah, if you said that, I didn't, It 1671 01:30:50.800 --> 01:30:56.079 didn't register in my thick skull, so I thought, yeah, 1672 01:30:56.439 --> 01:30:56.920 you know it. 1673 01:30:57.039 --> 01:30:58.840 It is really damning. 1674 01:30:58.960 --> 01:31:02.880 The information we so far about what they didn't tell 1675 01:31:03.000 --> 01:31:06.319 us is damning. And you know, you stand around, you go, 1676 01:31:06.359 --> 01:31:09.520 wait a second. You got people's lives at ask you here. 1677 01:31:09.560 --> 01:31:12.720 You got livestock dropping dad, you got waters polluted, You 1678 01:31:13.119 --> 01:31:15.479 got a bunch of people who are worried with this 1679 01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:22.560 top literally undeniably toxic intentional burnoff. And then they find 1680 01:31:22.600 --> 01:31:25.439 out that cancer clusters are a problem, and yet they 1681 01:31:25.439 --> 01:31:26.680 don't bother let anybody know. 1682 01:31:27.960 --> 01:31:30.439 They knew it in the very beginning. They just didn't 1683 01:31:30.439 --> 01:31:32.800 want it out in the public sphere. But you know, 1684 01:31:32.840 --> 01:31:35.039 that's the whole thing. But my question is, what did 1685 01:31:35.079 --> 01:31:37.680 Mike Dwine know and what did that lady in the 1686 01:31:37.720 --> 01:31:40.159 EPA in the State of Ohio though, Why wouldn't they 1687 01:31:40.159 --> 01:31:41.960 release the information to the public. 1688 01:31:42.079 --> 01:31:46.880 I agree completely. Regardless of the names of the individuals, 1689 01:31:46.880 --> 01:31:49.359 they are elected officials. They are supposed to be looking 1690 01:31:49.439 --> 01:31:54.279 up for their constituent's best interest. Why wouldn't you give 1691 01:31:54.399 --> 01:31:57.520 the information out? Obviously there was a you can call 1692 01:31:57.520 --> 01:32:00.880 it a cover up or a refusal to provide value information. 1693 01:32:01.079 --> 01:32:04.760 But what's the motive behind denying us access to something 1694 01:32:04.800 --> 01:32:06.680 that's so critically important? 1695 01:32:07.880 --> 01:32:10.439 They didn't want people to know how severe it was? 1696 01:32:12.279 --> 01:32:16.319 No, again, I go, but why not? What's what's wrong 1697 01:32:16.359 --> 01:32:18.399 with letting us know the truth? I mean, we can 1698 01:32:18.479 --> 01:32:21.920 handle it. I mean, that's that's the part that really 1699 01:32:21.960 --> 01:32:24.520 always irks me when something like this is held from public, 1700 01:32:24.560 --> 01:32:27.239 you know, from from the public. Why is it held? 1701 01:32:27.640 --> 01:32:30.239 I mean, why don't we have all the Kennedy documents yet? 1702 01:32:30.279 --> 01:32:30.479 Why do? 1703 01:32:30.640 --> 01:32:33.560 I mean, there's a million different areas that the federal 1704 01:32:33.640 --> 01:32:36.680 government sits on information that I think we can handle 1705 01:32:36.720 --> 01:32:39.000 if we're just told the truth. All I want is 1706 01:32:39.039 --> 01:32:43.159 the damn truth, you know, whatever it happens to me. 1707 01:32:44.800 --> 01:32:49.199 They bear false witness number one. Yeah, and if you don't, 1708 01:32:49.239 --> 01:32:51.520 a man with that word has no honor, You have 1709 01:32:51.600 --> 01:32:54.359 no honor, you have no soul. I mean, look at 1710 01:32:54.399 --> 01:32:56.479 him right now. They're not a lot of these individuals. 1711 01:32:56.520 --> 01:32:59.279 They're nothing but a bunch of liars and hypocrites. Those 1712 01:32:59.319 --> 01:33:01.800 are the worst too, that you can get well. 1713 01:33:01.800 --> 01:33:05.079 And I undeniably agree with you on that. But again, 1714 01:33:05.239 --> 01:33:07.920 the big looming question for me in the room is 1715 01:33:07.960 --> 01:33:12.479 always why are they just sitting on the information that 1716 01:33:12.520 --> 01:33:15.479 we could use. Why weren't we told they knew the 1717 01:33:15.520 --> 01:33:19.920 COVID nineteen vaccine caused myocarditis early? Why didn't they let 1718 01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:23.159 us know? And you could easily come maybe draw a 1719 01:33:23.199 --> 01:33:26.079 more clear conclusion on that one. There could be some 1720 01:33:26.199 --> 01:33:30.800 nefarious reason behind that. This this is where conspiracy theories 1721 01:33:30.840 --> 01:33:33.680 come from, Bobby. You find out later in the game, 1722 01:33:33.720 --> 01:33:35.640 after people run around and talk about, well, these days 1723 01:33:35.680 --> 01:33:37.880 these vaccines could be dangerous. You're damn right, they could 1724 01:33:37.920 --> 01:33:40.960 be dangerous. They didn't do a full clinical trial study. 1725 01:33:40.960 --> 01:33:43.199 It is throw them out of the general world. But 1726 01:33:43.279 --> 01:33:46.079 you see the information about the downside. We get that 1727 01:33:46.119 --> 01:33:48.880 when we'll watch a pharmaceutical commercial. Do not take this 1728 01:33:48.960 --> 01:33:51.039 drug if you're allergic to the drug. This drug could 1729 01:33:51.079 --> 01:33:54.000 cause cancer in certain individuals. Do not take if you're breastfeeding. 1730 01:33:54.279 --> 01:33:56.760 All of that, we go, Okay, I heard what you said. 1731 01:33:56.880 --> 01:33:57.439 You warned me. 1732 01:33:57.560 --> 01:33:59.439 You got studies which show in a certain number of 1733 01:33:59.439 --> 01:34:01.760 people that this drug will cause this problem, but it 1734 01:34:01.960 --> 01:34:05.760 still may cure my problem or solve the pain that 1735 01:34:05.800 --> 01:34:07.800 I'm dealing with, So you know what, I'm going to 1736 01:34:07.880 --> 01:34:12.479 take a calculated risk and take it anyway. I just 1737 01:34:12.520 --> 01:34:14.439 want the information so I can do that. It's like 1738 01:34:14.479 --> 01:34:17.600 food labeling laws tell me what's in the product I'm eating, 1739 01:34:17.680 --> 01:34:19.479 so I can decide whether or not I want to 1740 01:34:19.479 --> 01:34:24.399 put it in my body. So information's good and we 1741 01:34:24.439 --> 01:34:27.319 can all digest it and make rational decisions based on it. 1742 01:34:27.439 --> 01:34:30.479 But when they just simply do not tell us valuable 1743 01:34:30.520 --> 01:34:33.279 important things, like you know what, this is a really 1744 01:34:33.319 --> 01:34:35.880 carcinogenetic plume that's out there and we may have to 1745 01:34:35.880 --> 01:34:38.279 be studying and looking out for cancer risks. I might 1746 01:34:38.319 --> 01:34:40.479 want that information so I could talk to my doctor 1747 01:34:40.520 --> 01:34:43.439 about it, so he's on alert that you know, this 1748 01:34:43.479 --> 01:34:46.039 person could very well get cancer because they breathed the 1749 01:34:46.079 --> 01:34:49.119 air in East Palestine and drank the water there after 1750 01:34:49.159 --> 01:34:55.560 the train derailed. I'm entitled to that. I don't know why. 1751 01:34:57.039 --> 01:35:03.800 I suppose it's a form of lyying, but withholding the 1752 01:35:03.800 --> 01:35:08.039 truth can be viewed as a form of lyne But 1753 01:35:08.159 --> 01:35:12.760 simply withholding the truth without any conceivable reason behind it, 1754 01:35:12.880 --> 01:35:17.800 why wouldn't they let you know? And yes, you can 1755 01:35:17.840 --> 01:35:20.640 implicate the wine praps. You can imp implicate the EPA. 1756 01:35:20.760 --> 01:35:24.159 You can implicate anybody in the Biden administration who had 1757 01:35:24.159 --> 01:35:26.159 it but didn't let us know. That's fine. Those are 1758 01:35:26.199 --> 01:35:28.239 the actors who have it but won't let us know. 1759 01:35:28.560 --> 01:35:31.000 I still want the answer to the question of why not. 1760 01:35:32.560 --> 01:35:36.239 Seven twenty five Jennifer Gross representing District forty five in 1761 01:35:36.359 --> 01:35:39.520 studio and she's ready to go first. But Herbert Motors, 1762 01:35:40.079 --> 01:35:42.960 the great people at butt Herbert Motors. Lawn equipment is 1763 01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:45.319 what they do. They do it the best. They only 1764 01:35:45.359 --> 01:35:49.359 carry the finest brands, knowledgeable about what they sell and 1765 01:35:49.960 --> 01:35:51.600 is beyond line equipment. I like to point out I've 1766 01:35:51.600 --> 01:35:53.720 been over to the but Herbert Motors website. These stell 1767 01:35:53.800 --> 01:35:57.239 some pretty big tractors too, So you know, I always 1768 01:35:57.279 --> 01:35:59.279 think of my daughter and they're five and a half acres, 1769 01:35:59.279 --> 01:36:02.439 but they've got them solves of John Deere and uh, 1770 01:36:02.479 --> 01:36:05.119 it's a pretty big tractor. It's kind of cool. But 1771 01:36:05.159 --> 01:36:06.520 if you need something like that, you work with the 1772 01:36:06.520 --> 01:36:08.279 best people Butterberd Motors. You will be working with a 1773 01:36:08.439 --> 01:36:11.600 Herbert family member, fifth generation family in operator. The Herbert 1774 01:36:11.600 --> 01:36:13.680 families running a tight ship there. They can sell you 1775 01:36:13.680 --> 01:36:15.600 the great products. They can steer you in the right direction, 1776 01:36:15.640 --> 01:36:17.760 whether it is maybe a John Deere, x Mark, Steel, 1777 01:36:17.840 --> 01:36:20.399 Honda power equipment. They carry all those and more. You 1778 01:36:20.399 --> 01:36:21.880 can go to the website and find out about it. 1779 01:36:21.880 --> 01:36:23.880 They'll deliver it to your door. They'll service what they 1780 01:36:23.920 --> 01:36:27.960 sell you. Just across the board. The only folks to 1781 01:36:28.039 --> 01:36:30.239 deal with. And please, Dear God, don't make the mistake 1782 01:36:30.319 --> 01:36:32.399 of going to a box store to get your lawn equipment. 1783 01:36:32.439 --> 01:36:34.920 Get it from but Herbert Motors. Learn more but Herbert 1784 01:36:34.920 --> 01:36:38.279 Mootors dot com two locations, Just call one phone number 1785 01:36:38.279 --> 01:36:40.640 though five one three five four one thirty two ninety 1786 01:36:40.680 --> 01:36:44.159 one five one three, five four one thirty two ninety one. 1787 01:36:44.319 --> 01:36:46.319 Fifty five KRC dot com. 1788 01:36:46.359 --> 01:36:51.079 The Medal of Honor is the highest MILI. 1789 01:36:51.520 --> 01:36:53.840 Time for the nine first morning one forecast, we have 1790 01:36:54.159 --> 01:36:55.920 rounds of rain and showers. 1791 01:36:56.000 --> 01:36:57.600 I love it when they put that word in there. 1792 01:36:58.119 --> 01:37:00.680 Anyway, also maybe some storms, so I watch out for that. 1793 01:37:00.760 --> 01:37:03.159 Eighty for the high today overnight clouds, no rain though 1794 01:37:03.199 --> 01:37:06.199 sixty seven for the low. Rain returns tomorrow afternoon in 1795 01:37:06.239 --> 01:37:09.680 the evening and storms could develop as well. It'll be 1796 01:37:09.680 --> 01:37:12.640 mostly cloudy day and a high eighty overnight Lowes sixty 1797 01:37:12.680 --> 01:37:16.119 five with rain likely and Saturday mostly cloudy day. They 1798 01:37:16.159 --> 01:37:18.239 say they can't rule out rain for the weekend, but 1799 01:37:18.279 --> 01:37:19.199 it doesn't look likely. 1800 01:37:19.880 --> 01:37:22.039 Saturday SI seventy seven. It's seventy one right. 1801 01:37:21.960 --> 01:37:24.479 Now, in time for a traffic updates. 1802 01:37:24.159 --> 01:37:27.279 From the UCLP Traffic Center. Millions of Americans are living 1803 01:37:27.279 --> 01:37:31.439 with Alzheimer's or other dementias. Find answers from leading brain 1804 01:37:31.479 --> 01:37:35.600 health experts at UCE help learn more at ucehealth dot com. 1805 01:37:35.680 --> 01:37:38.159 Cruise continue to work with a couple of accidents eastbound 1806 01:37:38.199 --> 01:37:41.560 two seventy five left hand side near Winton that backs 1807 01:37:41.560 --> 01:37:45.560 traffic past Hamilton Avenue, then at Mostellar on the right 1808 01:37:45.560 --> 01:37:48.439 hand side. I'm no longer seeing in delay from seventy 1809 01:37:48.479 --> 01:37:52.000 five northbound seventy five is heavy out of Saint Bernard. 1810 01:37:52.079 --> 01:37:55.600 Making your way towards Lachlan chuck ingramon fifty five KR. 1811 01:37:55.720 --> 01:37:56.760 See the talk station. 1812 01:38:03.760 --> 01:38:06.319 It's seven thirty one, fifty five Ker City Talk Station. 1813 01:38:06.439 --> 01:38:10.720 Real exciting day for me in studio representing District forty 1814 01:38:10.760 --> 01:38:13.079 five here in the state of Ohio. Jennifer grows Always 1815 01:38:13.119 --> 01:38:15.239 great to see. It's been too long since I've seen you, 1816 01:38:15.359 --> 01:38:17.319 but it's a real pleasure having you here today. 1817 01:38:17.520 --> 01:38:19.600 Thank you, Thank you, Brian. It's good to be here. 1818 01:38:19.680 --> 01:38:19.960 All right. 1819 01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:23.039 Since we were on the topic of property taxes, you 1820 01:38:23.079 --> 01:38:26.039 were listening, we heard Dusty, and I know there's a 1821 01:38:26.079 --> 01:38:28.359 budget going on now and all these things. We're going 1822 01:38:28.399 --> 01:38:30.199 to talk about the budget. We're certainly going to talk 1823 01:38:30.199 --> 01:38:33.000 about Medicaid because you're on the Medicaid board. And I 1824 01:38:33.000 --> 01:38:36.319 don't know if you heard my conversation with Jack Windsor earlier. 1825 01:38:36.479 --> 01:38:40.640 He got the report regarding the Lexus Nexus dive into 1826 01:38:40.720 --> 01:38:44.319 income levels and how terrible that was that all these 1827 01:38:44.359 --> 01:38:47.760 people out there, some people with a million dollar plus resources, 1828 01:38:47.800 --> 01:38:50.640 still on the Medicaid system. Medicaid fraud, wasting abuse has 1829 01:38:50.640 --> 01:38:52.159 been a known problem here in the state of Ohio 1830 01:38:52.239 --> 01:38:55.560 for a long time. So for my listeners, we will definitely. 1831 01:38:55.239 --> 01:38:55.640 Get to that. 1832 01:38:55.680 --> 01:38:58.560 But I want to start with the property tax thing. 1833 01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:02.600 As you know, there's that petition being circulated just eliminate 1834 01:39:02.640 --> 01:39:06.159 it all together. And I'm struggling with how I mean, 1835 01:39:06.199 --> 01:39:08.399 While it sounds like a wonderful idea because I hate 1836 01:39:08.399 --> 01:39:10.359 looking at my property tax bill, which has gone up 1837 01:39:10.399 --> 01:39:14.079 dramatically since we built a house, but I don't know 1838 01:39:14.119 --> 01:39:16.640 how funding for anything would work in the absence of 1839 01:39:16.680 --> 01:39:19.039 that since everything is built around that property tax, so 1840 01:39:19.119 --> 01:39:22.720 putting that issue aside. There is that petition circulating, but 1841 01:39:22.920 --> 01:39:26.800 in terms of what we were warned about this potential 1842 01:39:27.159 --> 01:39:31.159 second round of Matt Nolan, president of the County Auditors Association, 1843 01:39:32.079 --> 01:39:35.279 speaking with Paula Christian Ever at CPO, said, listen, you 1844 01:39:35.279 --> 01:39:36.079 embrace yourself. 1845 01:39:36.119 --> 01:39:36.960 It's coming again. 1846 01:39:37.399 --> 01:39:40.439 You're going to see another twenty percent jump, right, and 1847 01:39:40.479 --> 01:39:42.600 there are seniors out there. I feel so sorry for 1848 01:39:42.680 --> 01:39:45.439 seniors on a fixed income and they've been in their house, 1849 01:39:45.479 --> 01:39:47.319 it's all paid off. They think they've got nothing to 1850 01:39:47.359 --> 01:39:49.680 worry about except maintenance and upkeep, and then boom, you 1851 01:39:49.720 --> 01:39:52.159 get a property tax bill that's jumped by a thousand 1852 01:39:52.239 --> 01:39:55.079 dollars or something crazy like that. So how do we 1853 01:39:55.119 --> 01:39:57.560 address this? Dusty said, this is the genesis of this, 1854 01:39:57.760 --> 01:40:01.319 was that twenty mili floor that the school which allows 1855 01:40:01.359 --> 01:40:04.600 them to get an ever increasing larger and larger amount, 1856 01:40:04.600 --> 01:40:06.359 which is why our tax bills keep going up. 1857 01:40:06.560 --> 01:40:07.000 That's right. 1858 01:40:07.039 --> 01:40:07.840 What's your takes all? 1859 01:40:08.279 --> 01:40:10.800 Well, First of all, Brian, you know we know that 1860 01:40:10.880 --> 01:40:15.800 homeowners are being crushed by by property tax, and especially 1861 01:40:15.920 --> 01:40:19.680 our over sixty five who've given largely they've lived in 1862 01:40:19.720 --> 01:40:23.239 the community's twenty thirty forty years, but they have unrecognized 1863 01:40:23.279 --> 01:40:25.800 gains on their homes, and so a lot of people 1864 01:40:25.800 --> 01:40:27.760 we can we can't wait for them to move and 1865 01:40:27.800 --> 01:40:31.199 say move to somewhere else and use your record, your 1866 01:40:31.319 --> 01:40:35.800 unrecognized gains. So it's an issue that the House is 1867 01:40:36.079 --> 01:40:39.600 very very aware of. And we do actually have a bill, 1868 01:40:40.520 --> 01:40:43.279 it's HB one eighty six. But let me say, we 1869 01:40:43.439 --> 01:40:48.000 have a group of bills and we're calling this from 1870 01:40:48.039 --> 01:40:50.920 the House. Just came out yesterday in Columbus at a 1871 01:40:50.920 --> 01:41:00.079 press release with Representatives Roma and Representative David Thomas, and 1872 01:41:01.079 --> 01:41:04.920 we're calling it the Property Tax Relief Now Act. So 1873 01:41:05.279 --> 01:41:08.880 HB one eighty six is the one that addresses the 1874 01:41:08.960 --> 01:41:11.159 twenty mil floor. And what it would do is it 1875 01:41:11.199 --> 01:41:16.079 limits the growth of the school district twenty mil floor 1876 01:41:16.359 --> 01:41:19.880 to the rate of inflation. So what that means is 1877 01:41:19.920 --> 01:41:22.760 the only increase the schools would get. Remember how Dusty 1878 01:41:22.880 --> 01:41:26.119 was talking about the wind fall again, Well, this would 1879 01:41:26.119 --> 01:41:27.479 limit it to the rate of inflation. 1880 01:41:27.680 --> 01:41:29.000 Now, I understand that the. 1881 01:41:29.239 --> 01:41:32.119 Average person who works for a capitalistic company and not 1882 01:41:32.199 --> 01:41:35.600 the government doesn't typically get a three point five percent 1883 01:41:36.520 --> 01:41:40.600 raise every year. However, it will limit the schools, that 1884 01:41:40.600 --> 01:41:43.840 that bill will limit the schools to a and the 1885 01:41:43.920 --> 01:41:46.840 rate of inflation, which will greatly help because we do 1886 01:41:47.000 --> 01:41:50.560 see that in January we will have another windfall of 1887 01:41:50.600 --> 01:41:52.399 property tax increase and we can't have that. 1888 01:41:52.680 --> 01:41:55.840 No, we cannot. But you know, in terms of addressing 1889 01:41:55.880 --> 01:41:57.800 the schools, Oh my god, what are we going to do. 1890 01:41:57.880 --> 01:42:00.199 We don't get an increase. We can't keep up with inflation. 1891 01:42:00.439 --> 01:42:03.359 Problem solved, that's right. Oh, yes, that's right. And fortunately, 1892 01:42:03.399 --> 01:42:06.239 at least right now, projections indicate and we've already seen 1893 01:42:06.279 --> 01:42:08.560 the inflation is down. Now, it's going to be terrible 1894 01:42:08.600 --> 01:42:12.520 in years where you have like nine percent inflation. But 1895 01:42:12.640 --> 01:42:15.720 if you're looking at a two, which is what the 1896 01:42:15.720 --> 01:42:19.680 FED usually is looking for in terms of acceptable desirable, 1897 01:42:19.800 --> 01:42:22.720 it's like two percent. Most of us can swallow that. 1898 01:42:22.720 --> 01:42:23.720 That's right, that's right. 1899 01:42:23.800 --> 01:42:26.159 I can swallow a two percent increase of my property 1900 01:42:26.199 --> 01:42:28.760 tax built, but not a thirty percent increase, that's. 1901 01:42:28.640 --> 01:42:32.439 Right, and it will be recalculated. You know, there's a 1902 01:42:32.560 --> 01:42:35.720 It creates a property tax credit that's equal to the 1903 01:42:35.720 --> 01:42:38.359 amount of the tax generated by the twenty mil floor. 1904 01:42:38.399 --> 01:42:41.840 And I can't get into particular details. This just came 1905 01:42:41.880 --> 01:42:46.319 out yesterday, but I'd encourage everyone to talk to their legislator. 1906 01:42:46.359 --> 01:42:48.399 But this is a whole entire package. 1907 01:42:48.399 --> 01:42:50.720 So not only does it adjust the twenty mil floor, 1908 01:42:51.079 --> 01:42:53.880 but it also addresses those that are on the homestead exemption. 1909 01:42:54.399 --> 01:42:57.720 It gives local government the opportunity to match what the 1910 01:42:57.760 --> 01:43:01.119 state does, so so the funding. Remember that your local 1911 01:43:01.159 --> 01:43:04.199 property tax. Let me be really clear to every single listener, 1912 01:43:04.399 --> 01:43:08.199 all of your local property tax stays local. The state 1913 01:43:08.279 --> 01:43:12.359 makes the laws that affect those taxes, but all of 1914 01:43:12.399 --> 01:43:14.560 the taxes you pay stay local. None of it goes 1915 01:43:14.560 --> 01:43:18.720 to the state when it's your property tax. So we 1916 01:43:18.800 --> 01:43:21.800 need to remember that we have to address the local spending. 1917 01:43:22.239 --> 01:43:25.279 You had mentioned early earlier, Brian, that you'd be okay 1918 01:43:25.359 --> 01:43:31.880 with paying some maybe an increased sales tax, and. 1919 01:43:30.960 --> 01:43:33.720 That way everybody participates well. 1920 01:43:33.279 --> 01:43:36.399 And that is something that I've heard from my constituents. 1921 01:43:36.680 --> 01:43:39.159 They talk about, how you know, we have a school 1922 01:43:39.239 --> 01:43:42.399 levy and everybody votes yes on the levee except for 1923 01:43:42.479 --> 01:43:46.439 maybe some of our elderly who are on a homestead exemption. 1924 01:43:46.560 --> 01:43:49.039 They don't want their property taxes to go up, but 1925 01:43:49.119 --> 01:43:50.159 everybody votes yes. 1926 01:43:50.199 --> 01:43:52.640 School levies pass. But here's the thing. 1927 01:43:52.720 --> 01:43:55.199 If you don't own property, there's no skin off your 1928 01:43:55.239 --> 01:43:59.199 teeth in this way. It will require local governments because 1929 01:43:59.199 --> 01:44:03.159 there's more coming. We'll talk probably more about this today, 1930 01:44:03.239 --> 01:44:09.960 but it will require potentially counties to consider an increase 1931 01:44:09.960 --> 01:44:14.079 in sales tax and also potentially an income tax for 1932 01:44:14.159 --> 01:44:17.479 the school systems because there is an opportunity for them 1933 01:44:17.520 --> 01:44:20.279 to do that if they so choose, but the people 1934 01:44:20.359 --> 01:44:21.600 get to vote on that. 1935 01:44:21.960 --> 01:44:24.039 Fair enough, let's pause. We'll bring Jennifer Gross back. We 1936 01:44:24.119 --> 01:44:26.840 got a whole hour with her, and this has been enlightening, 1937 01:44:27.000 --> 01:44:29.680 to say the least so far. 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Southbound seventy five break lights through Lachland 1987 01:46:49.520 --> 01:46:51.840 as well Chuck Ingram on fifty five KRS. 1988 01:46:52.279 --> 01:46:53.439 The talk station. 1989 01:46:55.600 --> 01:46:58.279 Seven forty two fifty five KRC Detalk Station. Brian Thomas, 1990 01:46:58.479 --> 01:47:03.399 Jennifer Gross, State representatives some District forty five talking property taxes. Welcome, 1991 01:47:03.479 --> 01:47:08.520 refreshing a dose of information here. We have local tax 1992 01:47:08.560 --> 01:47:12.439 commissions and how do they factor into this property tax equation? 1993 01:47:13.640 --> 01:47:14.279 Is your mic on? 1994 01:47:14.680 --> 01:47:17.520 I don't know you are now it is it on? So? 1995 01:47:18.399 --> 01:47:20.720 Well, the local and I'm not an expert in all 1996 01:47:20.800 --> 01:47:24.319 things all things, but there's a local tax commission at 1997 01:47:24.319 --> 01:47:27.479 every county and they have the ability to work within 1998 01:47:27.560 --> 01:47:34.079 your sales tax and raise revenue that way. So Representative 1999 01:47:34.199 --> 01:47:36.840 Thomas and others have been trying to go around the 2000 01:47:36.880 --> 01:47:39.199 state and say, hey, you can take a little prop 2001 01:47:39.319 --> 01:47:41.560 you can take a little pressure off of your homeowners 2002 01:47:41.560 --> 01:47:45.680 by working within sales tax. But commissioners don't typically want 2003 01:47:45.680 --> 01:47:47.800 to raise taxes, right, No. 2004 01:47:48.000 --> 01:47:52.319 Unless it's for a stadium. Yeah, sorry, I get that 2005 01:47:52.399 --> 01:47:52.760 in there. 2006 01:47:54.000 --> 01:47:57.039 Because you're from Cincinnati. I'm in Butler County. We don't 2007 01:47:57.039 --> 01:47:58.720 have to worry about some of that. I don't take 2008 01:47:58.760 --> 01:48:04.319 county issues, but yeah, so they can be working on 2009 01:48:04.359 --> 01:48:07.760 sales tax and that gives buy into everybody in the county, 2010 01:48:07.760 --> 01:48:10.720 and it increases revenues so that it can take pressure 2011 01:48:10.720 --> 01:48:15.800 off the homeowner. And that commission usually consists of three people. 2012 01:48:15.840 --> 01:48:18.319 And I don't quote me on this everybody, but I 2013 01:48:18.359 --> 01:48:22.079 believe it's a commissioner, the prosecutor, and the auditor maybe 2014 01:48:22.399 --> 01:48:23.079 those three. 2015 01:48:23.680 --> 01:48:28.319 So yeah, so we have some possible relief in sight. 2016 01:48:28.439 --> 01:48:30.239 I mean, do you have any idea what this might 2017 01:48:30.279 --> 01:48:33.159 translate into in terms if this bill passes, or this 2018 01:48:33.520 --> 01:48:37.600 Property Tax Relief Bill Act and all that's involved with it, 2019 01:48:37.600 --> 01:48:40.600 the sort of work that's right, what that might translate 2020 01:48:40.640 --> 01:48:44.239 into in terms of reduction in tax and property taxes. 2021 01:48:44.319 --> 01:48:47.760 The average homeowner in Ohio should see eight hundred and 2022 01:48:47.760 --> 01:48:52.560 fifty dollars removed from their property tax. It provides approximately 2023 01:48:52.640 --> 01:48:56.760 three point five billion in direct property tax relief to Ohioans. 2024 01:48:56.840 --> 01:48:57.399 Immediately. 2025 01:48:57.520 --> 01:48:59.319 Well, that's going to be welcome. Welcome. 2026 01:49:00.119 --> 01:49:03.960 Prevent spikes and unvoted property tax I mean, there's multiple 2027 01:49:04.000 --> 01:49:06.199 bills that can rattle them off. Maybe we'll talk about 2028 01:49:06.279 --> 01:49:09.199 them in this hour, but it aims to keep taxes 2029 01:49:09.199 --> 01:49:13.760 and revenues low. It empowers local government to provide direct 2030 01:49:13.800 --> 01:49:17.359 relief to the how is most vulnerable through a local 2031 01:49:17.479 --> 01:49:21.800 homestead exemption match that they can add to the state exemption, 2032 01:49:22.720 --> 01:49:28.520 and it empowers voters to eliminate most unvoted, unvoted taxes 2033 01:49:28.560 --> 01:49:31.600 for local governments, and it reduces the over reliance on 2034 01:49:31.640 --> 01:49:36.399 property tax which, as you stated earlier, was determined to 2035 01:49:36.399 --> 01:49:37.479 be unlawful. 2036 01:49:37.640 --> 01:49:41.279 And yeah, and we need to address that right now. Well, 2037 01:49:41.960 --> 01:49:44.600 that's the Supreme Court case that I was mentioning earlier. 2038 01:49:44.600 --> 01:49:48.159 This our school funding mechanism has been deemed unconstitutional for 2039 01:49:48.199 --> 01:49:51.000 the last twenty years. And yet it's like people complained 2040 01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:54.039 about Donald Trump defying the courts, and you're going, oh, 2041 01:49:54.079 --> 01:49:55.479 he's defying the courts. 2042 01:49:55.600 --> 01:49:58.399 This is the downfall democracy. Well, we as a state 2043 01:49:58.439 --> 01:50:01.279 have been defying our own Supreme Court now for two decades. 2044 01:50:01.479 --> 01:50:01.800 True. 2045 01:50:02.119 --> 01:50:04.560 True, a lot of people level. 2046 01:50:04.600 --> 01:50:06.960 We also have the death penalty in Ohio, but we've 2047 01:50:06.960 --> 01:50:11.359 had no people that have had to pay for that 2048 01:50:11.600 --> 01:50:13.520 so during the the wine years. 2049 01:50:13.560 --> 01:50:14.960 So I'm not a fan. 2050 01:50:14.800 --> 01:50:16.359 Of the death penalty because I don't believe in the 2051 01:50:16.399 --> 01:50:18.640 state's ability to take a life away because you know what, 2052 01:50:18.960 --> 01:50:20.760 sometimes they screw up. 2053 01:50:21.159 --> 01:50:22.399 True, that's the. 2054 01:50:22.760 --> 01:50:24.840 Reason for not I know, there's some terrible people out 2055 01:50:24.840 --> 01:50:26.640 there that I would love to see struck down by 2056 01:50:26.720 --> 01:50:28.560 God in a bolt of lightning, or run over by 2057 01:50:28.600 --> 01:50:31.920 a truck, or die in some horrific meat grinder incident 2058 01:50:31.960 --> 01:50:36.000 because they committed a horrific crime. 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Continuies overnight with storms expected fit sixty five. 2107 01:52:43.399 --> 01:52:46.439 The overnight low and highest seventy seven on Saturday with 2108 01:52:46.479 --> 01:52:50.039 mostly cloudy skies seventy one right now traffic time from. 2109 01:52:49.920 --> 01:52:51.119 The UCUP Tramping Center. 2110 01:52:51.159 --> 01:52:54.760 Megans of Americans are living with Alzheimers and other dimensions. 2111 01:52:54.880 --> 01:52:57.960 Find the answers from leaving brain health experts. Hey, you 2112 01:52:58.039 --> 01:53:01.479 see help learn more and you see help. Rex are clear. 2113 01:53:01.600 --> 01:53:04.600 East pound two seventy five at Winton and Moss Stellar. 2114 01:53:04.920 --> 01:53:07.720 North pound seventy five continued slow, but a milk into 2115 01:53:07.760 --> 01:53:10.680 the cut and from above seventy four in the Lachlan 2116 01:53:10.840 --> 01:53:13.960 that's a fifteen minute to lay alone. South pound seventy 2117 01:53:13.960 --> 01:53:17.000 five break flights through Blochman as well Chuck Ingram on 2118 01:53:17.079 --> 01:53:19.520 fifty five krs the talk station. 2119 01:53:21.079 --> 01:53:23.479 Five to fifty one, fifty five KRSD talk station. I'm 2120 01:53:23.479 --> 01:53:25.399 sorry seven to fifty one here, I'm looking at the 2121 01:53:25.439 --> 01:53:28.119 five in fifty on my account or my clock here. 2122 01:53:28.159 --> 01:53:28.880 I'm distracting. 2123 01:53:28.920 --> 01:53:32.399 You are distracting me, Jennifer Gross is a distraction in studio, 2124 01:53:33.159 --> 01:53:37.359 but a welcome distraction anyhow, Jennifer from District forty five 2125 01:53:38.119 --> 01:53:40.199 were too breaking things down. So we really did a 2126 01:53:40.199 --> 01:53:43.720 good job of the property tax thing. Let's start. We'll 2127 01:53:43.760 --> 01:53:45.359 just get do the tip of the iceberg in this 2128 01:53:45.399 --> 01:53:48.640 segment as we introduce a more far reaching conversation on 2129 01:53:48.760 --> 01:53:53.199 issues related to Medicaid. Now, when I talked to Jack 2130 01:53:53.239 --> 01:53:56.000 Windsor about this, he was looking at that one segment 2131 01:53:56.159 --> 01:54:00.880 of the Medicaid population, the blind, disabled, and is it elderly. 2132 01:54:01.319 --> 01:54:04.039 Yeah, okay, the ones that most needed Yes. 2133 01:54:03.800 --> 01:54:05.880 The ones that I walled off as a chair and 2134 01:54:05.920 --> 01:54:09.000 didn't even touch because I thought, I mean, how do 2135 01:54:09.079 --> 01:54:11.960 I go back to your listeners and the people and say, well, 2136 01:54:12.279 --> 01:54:15.680 we're going to cut the age, blind and disabled off Medicaid. 2137 01:54:15.760 --> 01:54:17.960 You'd have my head on a platter, right. 2138 01:54:17.800 --> 01:54:20.479 Yeah, I mean, theoretically, if anybody's going to be deserving 2139 01:54:20.560 --> 01:54:23.600 of some assistance, it would be them, Yes, But if 2140 01:54:23.640 --> 01:54:25.640 they've got a lot of money, then they don't need 2141 01:54:25.680 --> 01:54:28.760 to be in a public assistance program. That's where the 2142 01:54:28.840 --> 01:54:31.960 public assistance programs comes from, or the need comes from. 2143 01:54:32.039 --> 01:54:32.600 Duh. 2144 01:54:32.720 --> 01:54:35.600 Then I'm not man explaining, but I'm just so disturbed 2145 01:54:36.159 --> 01:54:41.439 by what our state's third party vendor, a company contracted 2146 01:54:41.439 --> 01:54:44.159 out to do this kind of work, and that's Lexus Nexus, 2147 01:54:44.800 --> 01:54:47.600 according to Jack Windsor, and by all accounts have access 2148 01:54:47.640 --> 01:54:50.680 to eighty five percent of every everybody in the country's 2149 01:54:50.680 --> 01:54:54.199 bank accounts. They took looked at one slice I think 2150 01:54:54.199 --> 01:54:55.800 it was twenty five percent of. 2151 01:54:55.680 --> 01:55:00.000 The fifty six percent and found twenty nine percent. 2152 01:55:00.039 --> 01:55:01.119 That's where outside. 2153 01:55:01.520 --> 01:55:04.600 So they look at a little over half of the entire blind, disabled, 2154 01:55:04.640 --> 01:55:07.800 elderly community and determine that twenty three percent of them 2155 01:55:07.840 --> 01:55:12.319 have more income, they are not qualified to be in 2156 01:55:12.359 --> 01:55:15.199 the program. And so he goes back to the High 2157 01:55:15.239 --> 01:55:17.560 Department of Medicaid and it's like, what's the deal here, 2158 01:55:17.600 --> 01:55:20.560 And they gave him some long winded, wordy goofy response. 2159 01:55:20.600 --> 01:55:24.600 He's published it today, but which basically said nothing and 2160 01:55:24.680 --> 01:55:28.239 my question to him is like, wait a second. They're 2161 01:55:28.239 --> 01:55:30.840 are vendor. We trust them with the information. They're who 2162 01:55:30.840 --> 01:55:33.039 we rely on to determine eligibility. In the first place, 2163 01:55:33.640 --> 01:55:35.600 they determined they aren't eligible, why not send them a 2164 01:55:35.640 --> 01:55:37.119 letter and so you're kicked out of the program. And 2165 01:55:37.119 --> 01:55:38.560 if they said were like, what, I don't have that 2166 01:55:38.640 --> 01:55:39.960 kind of money, they can come back and try to 2167 01:55:39.960 --> 01:55:41.960 present evidence that it's not their money or they don't 2168 01:55:42.000 --> 01:55:44.680 have it, or Lexus and Nexus was wrong. That's this 2169 01:55:44.840 --> 01:55:48.720 simple solution that would result in billions of dollars in savings. 2170 01:55:49.119 --> 01:55:49.760 What in the hell? 2171 01:55:50.039 --> 01:55:54.479 Yes, and let's pull that out. Four thousand Ohio Medicaid 2172 01:55:54.560 --> 01:55:58.880 beneficia areas were found to be holding one hundred thousand to. 2173 01:55:59.000 --> 01:56:00.119 Nine hundred. 2174 01:56:01.359 --> 01:56:04.600 Nine hundred ninety nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety nine 2175 01:56:04.680 --> 01:56:09.319 in assets, and twelve people had over a million dollars 2176 01:56:09.359 --> 01:56:10.800 and they were on Medicaid. 2177 01:56:10.960 --> 01:56:11.880 Let's break that down. 2178 01:56:12.359 --> 01:56:16.720 For that population, they're getting in benefits twenty four hundred 2179 01:56:16.720 --> 01:56:20.399 and ninety nine dollars a month. So the taxpayer is 2180 01:56:20.439 --> 01:56:22.920 on the hook for those four thousand people who do 2181 01:56:22.920 --> 01:56:26.319 not qualify, or twenty nine percent at two thousand, four 2182 01:56:26.399 --> 01:56:29.720 hundred and ninety nine dollars a month times twelve times 2183 01:56:29.760 --> 01:56:30.880 every year they were on. 2184 01:56:31.000 --> 01:56:31.840 You can do the math. 2185 01:56:31.880 --> 01:56:35.560 That's where the billions of waste is coming from. 2186 01:56:36.039 --> 01:56:39.239 That would address a lot of claimed budget shortfalls. 2187 01:56:38.600 --> 01:56:42.039 And their legs and property tax. I mean, like we 2188 01:56:42.079 --> 01:56:44.359 should be moving now. We need to be clear. The 2189 01:56:44.399 --> 01:56:48.520 federal government matches. We pay thirty five cents on every 2190 01:56:48.520 --> 01:56:49.680 dollar the federal government. 2191 01:56:49.760 --> 01:56:51.800 We call it a pull down. I do not like it. 2192 01:56:52.119 --> 01:56:54.960 Ohio is thirty to thirty five percent dependent on the 2193 01:56:54.960 --> 01:56:57.600 federal government. And we could talk about this in the budget. 2194 01:56:57.680 --> 01:57:00.720 It's our neighbors in every other state the tax. I mean, 2195 01:57:01.079 --> 01:57:03.399 I don't care. It's federal government money. That's our money. 2196 01:57:03.680 --> 01:57:05.800 I don't want people in Kentucky for paying for our fraud, 2197 01:57:05.800 --> 01:57:08.720 waist and abuse. I mean, that's what pisses me off 2198 01:57:08.720 --> 01:57:11.239 so much. I just see I'm getting unhinged here, Jennifer. 2199 01:57:12.079 --> 01:57:14.880 I mean, it's always well, the federal government's gonna pay. Well, 2200 01:57:14.920 --> 01:57:17.119 you know, go ahead and expand medicating your state, because 2201 01:57:17.119 --> 01:57:19.560 the federal government's gonna cover ninety percent of the expansion. 2202 01:57:19.920 --> 01:57:22.640 Damn it. That's taxpayer dollars. 2203 01:57:22.359 --> 01:57:26.960 The federal government we are That's right, that's right. People 2204 01:57:27.000 --> 01:57:28.920 forget We're gonna draw that down. 2205 01:57:28.960 --> 01:57:31.520 And don't even get me started on snap benefits that 2206 01:57:31.560 --> 01:57:33.279 are spent in Orlando, Florida. 2207 01:57:33.840 --> 01:57:37.960 See again, if they would more closely look at that, 2208 01:57:38.079 --> 01:57:39.960 if we would more closely looked at if all the 2209 01:57:40.039 --> 01:57:43.119 states out there would finally say, no, Moss, We're gonna 2210 01:57:43.479 --> 01:57:45.520 do a deep dive on this. Now, welcome to the 2211 01:57:45.520 --> 01:57:48.119 world of artificial intelligence. It's made the job of ferreting 2212 01:57:48.119 --> 01:57:50.880 this out so much easier. I'm sure some geek like 2213 01:57:51.159 --> 01:57:53.479 Elon Musk could put it into a computer and have 2214 01:57:53.560 --> 01:57:56.279 it spit out in like five seconds. Got the list 2215 01:57:56.319 --> 01:57:58.720 of people who aren't eligible, regardless of which program we're 2216 01:57:58.760 --> 01:58:02.079 talking about, and weeks all save we could probably cut 2217 01:58:02.119 --> 01:58:04.239 a trillion dollars out of the government spending every year. 2218 01:58:04.279 --> 01:58:06.319 Oh my gosh, you aren't kidding even more. 2219 01:58:06.439 --> 01:58:09.279 Let's bring Jennifer back. It's seven fifty five coming up 2220 01:58:09.279 --> 01:58:12.319 in something fifty six. More to talk about in the 2221 01:58:12.359 --> 01:58:14.039 next hour ahead, And they spent another half hour with 2222 01:58:14.119 --> 01:58:16.239 Jennifer here in studio. I'm looking forward to that. Stay around, 2223 01:58:16.239 --> 01:58:16.760 be right back. 2224 01:58:17.119 --> 01:58:20.439 Another update coming up. The day's top story's at the 2225 01:58:20.439 --> 01:58:21.159 top of the hour. 2226 01:58:21.359 --> 01:58:23.479 Important issues that are facing this country. 2227 01:58:23.680 --> 01:58:26.720 On fifty five krs the talk station. 2228 01:58:27.119 --> 01:58:32.119 Now Russia and Ukraine, US terrorists in the market every day, every. 2229 01:58:31.960 --> 01:58:36.319 Day happens here on fifty five krs the talk station 2230 01:58:42.000 --> 01:58:42.520 eight oh five. 2231 01:58:42.560 --> 01:58:46.359 I fifty about KRC Decaux Station, having a really enjoyable 2232 01:58:46.399 --> 01:58:49.760 conversation here, cutting through the chaff and focusing on the 2233 01:58:49.800 --> 01:58:52.800 week with Jennifer Gross High State Representative District forty five. 2234 01:58:52.880 --> 01:58:57.159 Outspoken she is, and I really appreciate your conviction. You know, 2235 01:58:57.239 --> 01:58:59.520 it's it's nice to have a politician who knows exactly 2236 01:58:59.560 --> 01:59:01.680 where they're coming from and why they're coming from where 2237 01:59:01.680 --> 01:59:04.159 they're coming from. So in our on air and off 2238 01:59:04.199 --> 01:59:07.840 air discussions, that's come through very loud and clear. You know, 2239 01:59:08.039 --> 01:59:11.239 there's little term Barbara Streiss and BS. There's a lot 2240 01:59:11.239 --> 01:59:13.920 of BS politicians out there, and you have no idea 2241 01:59:13.960 --> 01:59:16.800 whether what they're saying is the truth a lie. They're 2242 01:59:16.840 --> 01:59:19.000 just trying to appease you for the moment to get 2243 01:59:19.000 --> 01:59:21.640 you to leave them alone. But you know there's Congressman 2244 01:59:21.720 --> 01:59:25.119 Massy out there who you know exactly where that guy's 2245 01:59:25.159 --> 01:59:27.680 going to vote, you know exactly why he's going to vote, 2246 01:59:27.760 --> 01:59:30.000 way ahead of time. You don't need he doesn't need 2247 01:59:30.039 --> 01:59:31.960 to utter a symbol. Still, will you just show me 2248 01:59:31.960 --> 01:59:34.159 a piece of legislation I could look at and say, 2249 01:59:34.359 --> 01:59:36.199 Massy's going to be a yes, or Massy's going to 2250 01:59:36.199 --> 01:59:39.319 be another Congressman, Davidson, that's very similar. 2251 01:59:39.039 --> 01:59:42.640 My congressman, best congressman in Ohio if I don't say 2252 01:59:42.680 --> 01:59:46.079 so myself. Yeah, And Massey with his debt clock, I mean, 2253 01:59:46.159 --> 01:59:49.399 how do we how do we we need a debt 2254 01:59:49.439 --> 01:59:51.520 clock in Ohio to be able to show or not 2255 01:59:51.560 --> 01:59:51.920 in debt? 2256 01:59:51.920 --> 01:59:56.239 But Trump wants to scrap the debt ceiling outright. 2257 01:59:57.359 --> 01:59:57.880 Spending. 2258 01:59:59.039 --> 02:00:02.520 I mean it's saying you know, I'm usually in line 2259 02:00:02.600 --> 02:00:04.680 with what Trump wants to do. And you know, anytime 2260 02:00:04.720 --> 02:00:08.239 I criticized Trump, oh my god, I'll get an earful temple. 2261 02:00:08.560 --> 02:00:11.800 You know I do. But you know, it's like listeners 2262 02:00:11.840 --> 02:00:14.119 are called. We say, Brian, I agree with like eighty 2263 02:00:14.279 --> 02:00:16.119 eighty percent of what you say. I believe that I 2264 02:00:16.119 --> 02:00:17.319 agree with about ninety percent. 2265 02:00:17.119 --> 02:00:17.680 Of what you say. 2266 02:00:17.800 --> 02:00:19.840 I f it's a pretty good batting average. I'll take that, 2267 02:00:19.880 --> 02:00:21.840 and I expect everybody who agree with me one hundred 2268 02:00:21.840 --> 02:00:22.479 percent of the time. 2269 02:00:22.800 --> 02:00:25.000 Your wife does your wife agree with you? One hundred 2270 02:00:25.000 --> 02:00:26.039 percent mine doesn't. 2271 02:00:26.119 --> 02:00:31.680 Of course, she's listening right now. 2272 02:00:30.159 --> 02:00:31.600 My husband's listening. 2273 02:00:32.760 --> 02:00:34.880 You know, if she does disagree withment something, it's going 2274 02:00:34.960 --> 02:00:38.159 to be something so trivial because we don't fight about anything. 2275 02:00:39.119 --> 02:00:41.279 We have nothing to fight about. We get along great. 2276 02:00:41.399 --> 02:00:42.800 Thirty three years this. 2277 02:00:42.760 --> 02:00:44.760 Month, wow, twenty two for me. 2278 02:00:45.079 --> 02:00:47.960 We've been together longer than thirty three years. We started 2279 02:00:48.039 --> 02:00:49.680 dating in eighty seven. 2280 02:00:50.000 --> 02:00:51.239 So we have a bill. 2281 02:00:51.359 --> 02:00:54.920 We have a bill that that was sponsored by Representative 2282 02:00:54.960 --> 02:00:58.600 Beth Lear and Josh Williams that focuses on the foundation 2283 02:00:58.920 --> 02:01:01.760 of the nuclear family with a mom and a dad. 2284 02:01:02.119 --> 02:01:05.720 The month between Mother's Day and Father's Day is natural 2285 02:01:05.760 --> 02:01:10.840 family month. Oh well, we're working on legislation for that 2286 02:01:11.239 --> 02:01:14.479 doesn't discount o their families, right, but it does. It 2287 02:01:14.479 --> 02:01:17.960 does focus on the solid foundation of There. 2288 02:01:17.840 --> 02:01:21.479 Have been so many studies reflecting that. You know, part 2289 02:01:21.560 --> 02:01:25.319 of the problem in America is the the the eradication 2290 02:01:25.399 --> 02:01:27.960 of the nuclear family. And you know the Johnson administration 2291 02:01:28.039 --> 02:01:30.479 is largely responsible for that because they would only give 2292 02:01:30.520 --> 02:01:33.399 welfare benefits the single moms. There was no in senator 2293 02:01:33.399 --> 02:01:34.920 to get married, no one senator to have a guy 2294 02:01:34.960 --> 02:01:40.479 around the house. Anyway, moving back to Medicaid. Since you're 2295 02:01:40.520 --> 02:01:43.279 on the Medicaid board and we've already identified one of 2296 02:01:43.279 --> 02:01:45.920 the problems, which is no one apparently ever gets thrown 2297 02:01:45.960 --> 02:01:48.319 off in spite of the fact that they don't qualify. 2298 02:01:49.039 --> 02:01:51.279 How do we fix this? I mean, I keep hearing, oh, 2299 02:01:51.319 --> 02:01:54.359 that's the county's responsibility, or we don't do that here, 2300 02:01:54.399 --> 02:01:56.159 and you know, somebody's got to do it. Somebody's got 2301 02:01:56.199 --> 02:01:58.079 to pull the trigger, and then somebody's gonna have to 2302 02:01:58.079 --> 02:02:00.239 go through and look at all the working age people 2303 02:02:00.239 --> 02:02:04.760 who are receiving Medicaid benefits. I mean, but it's complicated, 2304 02:02:04.840 --> 02:02:07.960 but we're talking about a return on investment that is 2305 02:02:08.039 --> 02:02:11.800 so huge the problem just can't be ignored any longer, 2306 02:02:11.880 --> 02:02:15.439 especially since it's coming to our everyone's attention, most notably 2307 02:02:15.439 --> 02:02:17.840 in that small segment that we just talked about that 2308 02:02:17.920 --> 02:02:19.079 equals billions of dollars. 2309 02:02:19.159 --> 02:02:20.319 That's right, Brian. 2310 02:02:20.760 --> 02:02:23.159 One of my goals as chair of the Ohio Medicaid 2311 02:02:23.159 --> 02:02:26.680 Committee has been to open up the vision for people 2312 02:02:26.760 --> 02:02:29.479 to see what's actually going on. One of the problems 2313 02:02:29.479 --> 02:02:31.920 with bureaucracy, no matter where it is in government, and 2314 02:02:31.920 --> 02:02:35.880 that includes Ohio Medicaid, is lack of transparency. So we 2315 02:02:36.000 --> 02:02:41.439 really need to doge Ohio Medicaid. And we have a director, 2316 02:02:41.520 --> 02:02:45.720 Director Jada Brady. She's the director over the Joint Medicaid 2317 02:02:45.840 --> 02:02:49.680 over Site Committee and in my part of the budget, 2318 02:02:49.720 --> 02:02:52.479 which unfortunately several of those things have been removed. Now 2319 02:02:52.520 --> 02:02:57.720 I'm hearing in the Senate version of our budget increases transparency. Now, 2320 02:02:58.079 --> 02:03:00.760 why we would want to decrease trans parency in the 2321 02:03:00.760 --> 02:03:03.760 Ohio budget as curious to me, as you had stated earlier. 2322 02:03:04.159 --> 02:03:07.079 With Republicans in charge, I can't answer that, but I 2323 02:03:07.079 --> 02:03:10.760 have a call to one of the senators on Saturday 2324 02:03:10.800 --> 02:03:12.920 morning and I'm going to ask them about that. But 2325 02:03:13.479 --> 02:03:16.760 we have I increase transparency in the budget for Director 2326 02:03:16.800 --> 02:03:17.479 Braid to dobble. 2327 02:03:17.520 --> 02:03:18.640 We'll see what's going on. 2328 02:03:19.279 --> 02:03:23.439 The current director of medicaidas shall we say, not as 2329 02:03:23.439 --> 02:03:24.680 transparent as I would like. 2330 02:03:25.840 --> 02:03:28.399 Well, maybe because that person doesn't want to see how 2331 02:03:28.479 --> 02:03:31.119 poorly and inefficiently the system is run. 2332 02:03:31.479 --> 02:03:34.239 But you know, Brian, I mean, if someone's an alcoholic 2333 02:03:34.439 --> 02:03:37.199 and they realize they have a problem, that's when we 2334 02:03:37.239 --> 02:03:40.319 get somewhere right, that's when they go get treatment. So 2335 02:03:40.479 --> 02:03:43.199 if we and we know that we do in huge 2336 02:03:43.239 --> 02:03:49.119 government programs Transparency will only help us get well. Transparency 2337 02:03:49.159 --> 02:03:51.439 helps us fix the problem. You know what, we know 2338 02:03:51.520 --> 02:03:54.199 we have a problem. It's like we know there's something 2339 02:03:54.239 --> 02:03:54.840 going on, and. 2340 02:03:54.760 --> 02:03:58.720 Quite often under those circumstances, there will be an intervention. 2341 02:04:00.239 --> 02:04:00.640 Y's right. 2342 02:04:00.920 --> 02:04:04.720 People, the family members are responsible in this particular alcoholic 2343 02:04:04.840 --> 02:04:09.840 related type scenario. Are the representatives and senators in Columbus 2344 02:04:10.039 --> 02:04:14.239 that need to intervene. This is one department within state government, 2345 02:04:14.560 --> 02:04:16.279 and you all know who the problem is, and you 2346 02:04:16.319 --> 02:04:18.359 all know where the problem is. It's time to stand 2347 02:04:18.439 --> 02:04:20.840 up and have a sit down conversation and say you 2348 02:04:20.880 --> 02:04:23.760 need to get your blank together and start saving you 2349 02:04:23.760 --> 02:04:26.439 know how taxpayer dollars and everybody else in the country's 2350 02:04:26.439 --> 02:04:29.439 dollars by not wasting so much by letting the problem fester. 2351 02:04:29.760 --> 02:04:30.199 That's right. 2352 02:04:30.399 --> 02:04:35.439 Well, Representative Davilla has been the one started the intervention. 2353 02:04:36.079 --> 02:04:38.960 Jack Whitwindsor from early in the program got his information 2354 02:04:39.079 --> 02:04:41.039 and that was at least he got the ball running. 2355 02:04:41.079 --> 02:04:42.720 That's right, man, and I hope he scores it. 2356 02:04:42.840 --> 02:04:47.800 Can can I just say Representative Davilla is a Navy commander. 2357 02:04:48.359 --> 02:04:50.600 I mean those of us who've been in the military 2358 02:04:50.760 --> 02:04:54.039 are we are used to working hard, and we're also 2359 02:04:54.159 --> 02:04:57.720 used to government, but we also are used to accountability. 2360 02:04:57.760 --> 02:05:02.880 And I love that Representative de Villa through people that 2361 02:05:02.920 --> 02:05:04.800 have helped him in his district. They're the ones who 2362 02:05:04.840 --> 02:05:08.039 brought this, you know, to his attention and showed him 2363 02:05:08.079 --> 02:05:12.319 where to go. You know, it's a government of the people, 2364 02:05:12.359 --> 02:05:15.159 for the people, and buy the people. Davilla acted because 2365 02:05:15.199 --> 02:05:17.359 he had someone behind him saying, hey, you probably ought 2366 02:05:17.359 --> 02:05:19.199 to look at this. So he looks at it, and 2367 02:05:19.239 --> 02:05:22.640 so we get transparency. We need to have that. And 2368 02:05:23.119 --> 02:05:27.399 he's the intervener. And again as Director of Medicaid, if 2369 02:05:27.399 --> 02:05:30.760 I can have people and other legislators bring not the 2370 02:05:30.800 --> 02:05:34.159 Director of Medicaid, the chair of the Ohio Medicaid Committee, 2371 02:05:34.880 --> 02:05:38.720 bring bills forward to reform this program. 2372 02:05:39.039 --> 02:05:40.760 Every little bit helps. 2373 02:05:40.399 --> 02:05:40.800 All right. 2374 02:05:41.319 --> 02:05:43.159 I think it's a topic we can probably address in 2375 02:05:43.199 --> 02:05:45.560 the remaining three minutes of this segment before we go 2376 02:05:45.640 --> 02:05:49.359 to break. So six hundred million dollars for the blank 2377 02:05:49.359 --> 02:05:53.119 in Cleveland Browns Complex. I don't want the Bengals to 2378 02:05:53.119 --> 02:05:55.880 get state taxpayer dollars that you might talk in earlier 2379 02:05:55.920 --> 02:05:58.800 about our local tax commissions. That's where the tax came 2380 02:05:58.840 --> 02:06:00.560 to build a stadium in the first place, that was 2381 02:06:00.600 --> 02:06:03.000 our decision as Hamilton County voters. We made We made 2382 02:06:03.039 --> 02:06:05.720 the wrong decision. Perhaps we made the right decision, doesn't matter. 2383 02:06:06.079 --> 02:06:08.359 That's where it came from. I don't know if we 2384 02:06:08.399 --> 02:06:10.399 ever got any state money for that, but I find 2385 02:06:10.399 --> 02:06:14.600 the concept of giving private owners of businesses and mean, 2386 02:06:14.600 --> 02:06:16.640 oh my god, it's the Bengals. No, it's a business. 2387 02:06:17.800 --> 02:06:20.239 You know, you're not giving the guy down the street 2388 02:06:20.279 --> 02:06:22.680 with the mom and pop store, the convenience store, whatever, 2389 02:06:23.279 --> 02:06:25.880 state tax payer dollars. There's no line to stand in 2390 02:06:25.880 --> 02:06:27.399 for them to hold their hand out and say, hey, 2391 02:06:27.399 --> 02:06:29.319 can I have a part of the money. So why 2392 02:06:29.600 --> 02:06:32.199 is it that we're supposed to pay for that in 2393 02:06:32.279 --> 02:06:33.600 any way, shape or form. 2394 02:06:33.720 --> 02:06:36.800 And why should people in southwest Ohio be taking out 2395 02:06:36.840 --> 02:06:40.520 a bond for a Cleveland stadium? 2396 02:06:40.560 --> 02:06:42.840 But here's that was the worst proposal because the bond 2397 02:06:42.880 --> 02:06:44.720 would have been paid for over twenty five years with 2398 02:06:44.800 --> 02:06:46.439 interest rates, and it would have been to be more 2399 02:06:46.479 --> 02:06:49.840 like a billion dollars. So they've thrown that out in 2400 02:06:49.840 --> 02:06:53.640 favor of raiting this this fund that no one knew 2401 02:06:53.680 --> 02:06:54.199 we had. 2402 02:06:54.279 --> 02:06:57.880 I was unclaimed fund one seven billion. 2403 02:06:58.039 --> 02:06:59.920 I read it was four point seven. 2404 02:07:00.000 --> 02:07:02.119 Wow, Okay, baby, you're right. 2405 02:07:02.199 --> 02:07:04.119 They got a pile of money. Oh was this grab 2406 02:07:04.159 --> 02:07:06.720 it from that? Like wait a second. First off, you 2407 02:07:06.840 --> 02:07:10.560 had that that pile of money, and apparently you're allowed 2408 02:07:10.600 --> 02:07:13.520 to take from it to give it to the Cleveland Browns. 2409 02:07:13.439 --> 02:07:15.600 And shouldn't we save that for property tax? 2410 02:07:15.760 --> 02:07:17.279 See that's welcome that. 2411 02:07:17.760 --> 02:07:19.720 Let me tell you, let me go back though that's 2412 02:07:19.720 --> 02:07:22.520 six hundred million though, Ohio people are on the hook 2413 02:07:22.560 --> 02:07:24.680 for that. So not that a billionaire is going to 2414 02:07:24.720 --> 02:07:26.960 default on a loan or a bond, which is a 2415 02:07:26.960 --> 02:07:30.159 loan right to them, But they're putting fifty million dollars 2416 02:07:30.199 --> 02:07:33.399 of earnest money down like buying a house six hundred million. 2417 02:07:33.920 --> 02:07:36.439 But if they defaulted on that loan, the Ohio people 2418 02:07:36.439 --> 02:07:38.039 would be on the hook for the five hundred and 2419 02:07:38.119 --> 02:07:38.760 fifty million. 2420 02:07:38.960 --> 02:07:40.600 That's the truth about that. 2421 02:07:40.600 --> 02:07:42.800 That's kind of like student loan for business. 2422 02:07:42.960 --> 02:07:46.279 So so my sixty five and over who just retired 2423 02:07:46.279 --> 02:07:48.960 are having a hard time paying their property tax, are 2424 02:07:49.000 --> 02:07:53.560 giving a loan to the Cleveland brown stadiums the stadium there. 2425 02:07:53.399 --> 02:08:00.039 So quickly, do you have any idea who has the 2426 02:08:00.119 --> 02:08:05.640 pictures of the people who proposed this and voted for it, 2427 02:08:05.680 --> 02:08:08.239 because clearly there's some information out there that wants to 2428 02:08:08.279 --> 02:08:10.880 be kept hidden otherwise, I don't know how the Cleveland 2429 02:08:10.880 --> 02:08:14.479 Browns ends up with all that money to the exclusion 2430 02:08:14.520 --> 02:08:18.000 of literally every other sports team you know, minor league 2431 02:08:18.079 --> 02:08:21.840 or professional. You know, Ohio State's got a football field, 2432 02:08:21.840 --> 02:08:23.960 they got a great team, since at Bengals are there, 2433 02:08:23.960 --> 02:08:26.520 we got FC Cincinnati. I mean, the list is seemingly 2434 02:08:26.640 --> 02:08:29.159 endless of people could have their hands out in the 2435 02:08:29.319 --> 02:08:33.000 sports realm alone. So how is it that they got it? 2436 02:08:33.399 --> 02:08:37.920 Well, I believe that there was pressure obviously in the 2437 02:08:37.960 --> 02:08:41.640 Ohio House of Representatives to support this, But the day 2438 02:08:41.720 --> 02:08:45.439 before the vote, I got a request from Paycorps, right, 2439 02:08:45.560 --> 02:08:48.840 they want some you know, a different version, and then 2440 02:08:48.920 --> 02:08:51.880 FC Cincinnati, so we of course do. 2441 02:08:52.239 --> 02:08:54.239 And then you're handing out money to sports teams. 2442 02:08:54.079 --> 02:08:56.520 You're going to ask everybody else is going to want 2443 02:08:56.560 --> 02:08:59.279 it too, So that was part of the reason we didn't. 2444 02:08:59.439 --> 02:09:01.319 It's not that we don't like Cleveland. I mean, we 2445 02:09:01.399 --> 02:09:04.079 love the Bengals better down here, of course, but but 2446 02:09:04.199 --> 02:09:08.239 we don't. But we don't believe as conservatives that that 2447 02:09:08.359 --> 02:09:10.640 this money should really go in that direction. 2448 02:09:10.800 --> 02:09:13.039 So that's my only point. It is not against the 2449 02:09:13.079 --> 02:09:15.600 Cleveland Browns. I got no problem with the city of Cleveland. 2450 02:09:15.640 --> 02:09:18.119 People who live there. I think they're they're they're Ohioans, 2451 02:09:18.159 --> 02:09:20.920 they are my neighbors, exactly. I've been to Cleveland, you know, 2452 02:09:21.399 --> 02:09:23.680 I don't care about that. If it was Columbus, or 2453 02:09:23.680 --> 02:09:26.600 if it was hell War in Ohio was getting this 2454 02:09:26.680 --> 02:09:27.319 kind of money. 2455 02:09:27.119 --> 02:09:32.239 I'd still asked the same damn question. It's not right principle. 2456 02:09:32.359 --> 02:09:33.079 Let's go back. 2457 02:09:33.119 --> 02:09:36.399 So the Senate is changing that funding from a six 2458 02:09:36.479 --> 02:09:39.800 hundred million dollar bond in the House budget to taking 2459 02:09:39.840 --> 02:09:42.079 the money from the unclaimed funds pile in. 2460 02:09:42.479 --> 02:09:45.520 No, but that's to me, beyond the point or beside 2461 02:09:45.520 --> 02:09:46.119 the point. 2462 02:09:45.920 --> 02:09:48.720 Right, right, It's it's Ohio money. 2463 02:09:48.920 --> 02:09:49.800 It's Ohio money. 2464 02:09:49.840 --> 02:09:50.279 That's right. 2465 02:09:50.359 --> 02:09:52.960 It's my taxpayer dollars. It's your taxpayer dollars, and it's 2466 02:09:53.000 --> 02:09:54.119 going to one family. 2467 02:09:54.399 --> 02:09:55.199 It shouldn't happen. 2468 02:09:55.319 --> 02:09:58.600 It shouldn't. Somebody was threatened behind the scene. I bet 2469 02:09:58.640 --> 02:10:00.319 there has to be a reason for this. It just 2470 02:10:00.880 --> 02:10:04.720 it just burns my eye. Eight sixteen fifty five KRCD 2471 02:10:04.800 --> 02:10:06.680 talk station. If you want your kitchen model, you want 2472 02:10:06.680 --> 02:10:08.239 to real remodel, right, you want to you want to 2473 02:10:08.279 --> 02:10:10.199 work with a guy you're gonna love working with. And 2474 02:10:10.560 --> 02:10:13.239 you know that's Prestige and Tiers specifically John Ryan. He 2475 02:10:13.439 --> 02:10:15.399 is the company. He's the one that you will will 2476 02:10:15.399 --> 02:10:18.279 be your partner from initial design to final installation, with 2477 02:10:18.359 --> 02:10:21.680 you every step of the way. So give John a 2478 02:10:21.760 --> 02:10:24.079 call and have him come over to your place and 2479 02:10:24.159 --> 02:10:26.520 check it out easy. And you know, small projects like 2480 02:10:26.560 --> 02:10:28.720 cabinets and countertops, you're in the right hands. And if 2481 02:10:28.760 --> 02:10:30.199 you want to gut the whole thing, like my wife 2482 02:10:30.199 --> 02:10:33.119 and I did working with John, that turned out great. 2483 02:10:33.880 --> 02:10:36.520 And he's got tons of word of mouth referrals too. 2484 02:10:36.560 --> 02:10:38.279 I think there was one neighborhood he did like five 2485 02:10:38.359 --> 02:10:41.439 or six kitchens, so everybody loved the work John did. 2486 02:10:41.520 --> 02:10:43.279 You will too, a plus with a better business barer. 2487 02:10:43.359 --> 02:10:47.079 Remember the National Kitchen Bath Association online, it's Prestige one 2488 02:10:47.119 --> 02:10:50.000 two three dot com, Prestige one two three dot com 2489 02:10:50.039 --> 02:10:52.800 five one three two four seven zero two two. 2490 02:10:52.800 --> 02:10:54.479 Nine fifty five KRC. 2491 02:10:55.399 --> 02:11:05.680 This September twenty one, call Many twenty two. 2492 02:11:05.680 --> 02:11:07.960 We got a few minutes left with Jennifer Gross again 2493 02:11:08.079 --> 02:11:10.880 representing District forty five here in the state of Ohio, 2494 02:11:11.239 --> 02:11:13.279 doing a great job. This morning Jennifer and enjoying our 2495 02:11:13.279 --> 02:11:15.439 conversations and then topic near and dear to your heart. 2496 02:11:15.439 --> 02:11:19.000 And I just sent Maureen an instant message saying, hang around. 2497 02:11:19.119 --> 02:11:21.479 You're gonna love this because she just sent me a message. 2498 02:11:22.319 --> 02:11:25.800 Maureene listens in Florida, but she is all over and 2499 02:11:25.840 --> 02:11:29.039 has been all over the whole COVID nineteen, the vaccine, 2500 02:11:29.119 --> 02:11:31.359 the cover up information, and YadA YadA yah. It's one 2501 02:11:31.399 --> 02:11:34.359 of her favorite topics. And she shows, I got another 2502 02:11:34.359 --> 02:11:37.840 conspiracy for you. So she's self deprecating in that regard 2503 02:11:37.880 --> 02:11:39.279 because a lot of things she's told me over the 2504 02:11:39.359 --> 02:11:42.960 years of like, there's no way anyway. One of the 2505 02:11:42.960 --> 02:11:46.359 things we learned during COVID nineteen is that the pharmacies 2506 02:11:46.399 --> 02:11:50.840 were not allowed to fill ibermactin prescriptions. And I found 2507 02:11:50.840 --> 02:11:52.920 that quite offensive, and I didn't realize that they were 2508 02:11:52.960 --> 02:11:57.199 able to interfere with a physician's practice of medicine. The 2509 02:11:57.239 --> 02:12:00.439 physician is a diagnostician. There is such a thing is 2510 02:12:00.479 --> 02:12:03.359 off label use of drugs. We've been doing this forever 2511 02:12:03.680 --> 02:12:06.479 and if the physician and his infinite wisdom, after talking 2512 02:12:06.520 --> 02:12:10.000 with his or her patient about the potential downside risk, 2513 02:12:10.079 --> 02:12:11.800 and we've tried this that hasn't worked. 2514 02:12:11.800 --> 02:12:12.199 We tried. 2515 02:12:12.399 --> 02:12:15.079 I've got an idea. Maybe this will help you get 2516 02:12:15.079 --> 02:12:18.399 the relief you need. They were stopped from doing that. 2517 02:12:18.399 --> 02:12:19.600 That's right. 2518 02:12:19.880 --> 02:12:22.039 Cold, No, you're gonna lose your license. That to me, 2519 02:12:22.800 --> 02:12:23.720 that blew my mind. 2520 02:12:23.920 --> 02:12:25.600 That's right, that's right, that's right. 2521 02:12:25.640 --> 02:12:29.159 So my answer to that in Ohio was HB twelve, 2522 02:12:29.239 --> 02:12:31.039 which is due to be voted out of the Ohio 2523 02:12:31.159 --> 02:12:34.920 Health Committee this week. So if you have a representative 2524 02:12:35.079 --> 02:12:37.880 in your district, or even if you don't, and you 2525 02:12:38.399 --> 02:12:41.800 like a bill, it's called the Jeff, Dave and Angie 2526 02:12:41.880 --> 02:12:45.479 Right to Try Act. And Jeff Smith was a man 2527 02:12:45.600 --> 02:12:48.800 who died in Westchester hospital. His wife had to sue 2528 02:12:49.880 --> 02:12:54.880 the hospital to get ivermectin and then unfortunately she paid 2529 02:12:54.920 --> 02:12:58.279 seven thousand to get it, and then the local judge 2530 02:12:59.319 --> 02:13:02.279 took it away, and then Jeff died in the hospital, 2531 02:13:02.319 --> 02:13:06.119 and so and then Dave and Angie also up north. 2532 02:13:06.159 --> 02:13:10.520 They also died in an Ohio hospital. Patients were requesting averramectin, 2533 02:13:10.600 --> 02:13:16.840 hydroxychloroquin budestinied numerous other drugs Brian but there was only 2534 02:13:16.880 --> 02:13:19.479 one drug and that was remdy severe and a ventilator 2535 02:13:19.720 --> 02:13:24.159 and Unfortunately, physicians lost that opportunity to say, you know, 2536 02:13:24.279 --> 02:13:26.359 I think we ought to try this. I have doctor 2537 02:13:26.479 --> 02:13:29.199 witnesses that have come up to the state House and 2538 02:13:29.319 --> 02:13:34.199 spoken about how they were not allowed to utilize different treatments, 2539 02:13:35.159 --> 02:13:38.680 and this bill protects that patient provide a relationship, the 2540 02:13:38.800 --> 02:13:43.960 sacred relationship. Also allows the physician to have free speech, 2541 02:13:44.119 --> 02:13:47.720 which was vetoed by the governor last year with a 2542 02:13:47.760 --> 02:13:52.439 similar bill like this one of mine, and so we 2543 02:13:52.560 --> 02:13:57.119 came back again. I believe that patients and providers need 2544 02:13:57.159 --> 02:14:02.439 to have a private, safe grid relationship, and that pharmacists 2545 02:14:02.479 --> 02:14:06.279 the important part of the team and collaborators with the team, 2546 02:14:06.399 --> 02:14:08.920 are not the prescriber. They don't examine the patient, they 2547 02:14:08.920 --> 02:14:13.399 don't look at the patient, they know their history and 2548 02:14:13.399 --> 02:14:16.359 and so there are there are a lot more details 2549 02:14:16.359 --> 02:14:20.640 to the bill. Main opposition is the Ohio Pharmacists Association. 2550 02:14:20.880 --> 02:14:24.880 Oh shocking, and that's unfortunate. But not all pharmacists are 2551 02:14:24.880 --> 02:14:29.000 against it. I mean some pharmacists did dispense but but 2552 02:14:29.000 --> 02:14:30.880 but a lot of people did not, and there was 2553 02:14:30.920 --> 02:14:35.479 pressure for them not to. And when a patient gets 2554 02:14:35.520 --> 02:14:38.840 prescribed to medication, Brian, who do they return to if 2555 02:14:38.840 --> 02:14:41.720 that that medication is rejected, they go back to the 2556 02:14:41.760 --> 02:14:45.279 physician who prescribed the treatment. Now, this bill allows if 2557 02:14:45.279 --> 02:14:47.880 the pharmacist says, hey, this is going to kill the patient, 2558 02:14:48.000 --> 02:14:49.600 they don't drug interaction. 2559 02:14:49.800 --> 02:14:52.640 That's what pharmacists are for. No, you're taking that medication. 2560 02:14:52.920 --> 02:14:54.680 If you take this one on top of it, you're 2561 02:14:54.680 --> 02:14:55.199 going to die. 2562 02:14:55.279 --> 02:14:57.600 And that is protected in this bill. They still have 2563 02:14:57.680 --> 02:14:59.600 the ability to do all of that, but they don't 2564 02:14:59.640 --> 02:15:02.439 get to tell a physician I'm not going to give 2565 02:15:02.479 --> 02:15:04.680 this because I don't I don't agree with your plan. 2566 02:15:04.880 --> 02:15:06.640 I'm not going to give you this because Moderna came 2567 02:15:06.720 --> 02:15:08.520 up with a vaccine. Well, that doesn't mean you have 2568 02:15:08.560 --> 02:15:11.640 to take the Moderna vaccine. You're entitled to try something 2569 02:15:11.720 --> 02:15:16.600 alternative and that, you know, especially with a demonstrably safe pill. 2570 02:15:17.039 --> 02:15:18.079 Yes, you know, I remeke them. 2571 02:15:18.079 --> 02:15:20.920 It's been around for decades, it's solved all kinds of problems, 2572 02:15:20.920 --> 02:15:22.760 and you may reject the idea that it's going to 2573 02:15:22.800 --> 02:15:24.439 help you with your COVID and you're allowed to be 2574 02:15:24.479 --> 02:15:28.039 in that camp. That's where the informed decision comes in. No, No, 2575 02:15:28.199 --> 02:15:30.239 I believe what everybody's telling me, that you're crazy to 2576 02:15:30.239 --> 02:15:33.520 take a orse warm pill or whatever. But it's been 2577 02:15:33.560 --> 02:15:36.119 well documented that you know, in the final analysis it 2578 02:15:36.159 --> 02:15:37.880 did actually kind of work for a lot. 2579 02:15:37.680 --> 02:15:39.520 Of folks, and it's over the counters. 2580 02:15:40.560 --> 02:15:43.159 Well, that's why the pharmaceutical companies hate it. Because it's 2581 02:15:43.600 --> 02:15:47.479 no longer subject to a patent. It can be manufactured 2582 02:15:47.479 --> 02:15:49.199 inexpensively and cheaply, and. 2583 02:15:49.119 --> 02:15:52.119 People don't understand that sometimes. And I want to remind 2584 02:15:52.159 --> 02:15:55.439 your listeners that twenty to sixty percent of all prescriptions 2585 02:15:55.479 --> 02:15:59.880 prescribed by providers are off label. So doctors see that 2586 02:15:59.880 --> 02:16:03.439 it works for something else that it wasn't originally indicated 2587 02:16:03.479 --> 02:16:06.720 by the FDA, but the FDA determines any drug that's 2588 02:16:06.760 --> 02:16:09.079 out there is safe for human consumption. 2589 02:16:09.359 --> 02:16:11.239 Well, that's how you got vi ager because it was 2590 02:16:11.239 --> 02:16:13.920 supposed to be a blood pressure medications, right, And they 2591 02:16:13.960 --> 02:16:15.359 pet guys were coming in and going. 2592 02:16:15.359 --> 02:16:16.479 Hey, can I get some more of this? 2593 02:16:16.680 --> 02:16:19.479 Like well why Like they discovered, oh my god, it 2594 02:16:19.560 --> 02:16:23.840 really does work, Amen, and making made billions and billions 2595 02:16:23.920 --> 02:16:26.960 and billions of dollars stumbling upon it as an off 2596 02:16:27.039 --> 02:16:30.000 label use. Jennifer Gross, this has been a wonderful conversation. 2597 02:16:30.079 --> 02:16:32.479 You can come in anytime. We'll talk again more. And 2598 02:16:32.559 --> 02:16:34.639 I appreciate your time with my listeners of me today. 2599 02:16:34.719 --> 02:16:36.799 Thank you Brian stick around, I heard me the aviation 2600 02:16:36.879 --> 02:16:39.120 next where Jay Ratlowe joins the program. Next we have 2601 02:16:39.200 --> 02:16:41.159 a long list of topics with Jay and I hope, 2602 02:16:41.200 --> 02:16:42.239 I hope you'll wait around for that. 2603 02:16:42.920 --> 02:16:44.920 I'm listen on the drive home to catch up on 2604 02:16:44.959 --> 02:16:45.280 my den. 2605 02:16:45.479 --> 02:16:47.639 I listened for the traffic here I'm a news junkie 2606 02:16:47.799 --> 02:16:48.280 and the weather. 2607 02:16:48.559 --> 02:16:49.639 I listened all day at work. 2608 02:16:49.719 --> 02:16:53.040 I listened because they talk more than just politics. 2609 02:16:52.559 --> 02:16:55.200 For every day going to work. The traffic, the talk 2610 02:16:55.239 --> 02:16:56.879 shows are pretty fun for everyone. 2611 02:16:57.040 --> 02:16:59.159 In the weekends and the garages I work on my 2612 02:16:59.200 --> 02:16:59.879 car listen. 2613 02:17:00.079 --> 02:17:03.319 I listen for free the news and the webbing traffic. 2614 02:17:03.360 --> 02:17:06.399 Oh, I love the top on air and on the iHeartRadio. 2615 02:17:06.719 --> 02:17:11.079 I wish I could listen more on fifty five KRCZ talkstation. 2616 02:17:11.559 --> 02:17:17.159 All right, Gary, sobad, It's time for the weather. 2617 02:17:17.399 --> 02:17:20.479 Channel nine says we've got rain, rain and showers kind 2618 02:17:20.479 --> 02:17:22.319 of on and off, maybe some storms as well. High 2619 02:17:22.319 --> 02:17:24.799 have eighty over night, low sixty seven with clouds. 2620 02:17:25.079 --> 02:17:25.479 Tomorrow. 2621 02:17:25.479 --> 02:17:28.120 We get a cloudy day up until the afternoon evening 2622 02:17:28.159 --> 02:17:30.959 hours when the showers and storms will develop. Eighty for 2623 02:17:31.000 --> 02:17:33.200 the high Tomorrow during the night time. We have a 2624 02:17:33.239 --> 02:17:37.799 sixty five low and rain and some storms are expected Saturday. 2625 02:17:37.840 --> 02:17:38.799 They say maybe a. 2626 02:17:38.719 --> 02:17:42.040 Little rain but just a possibility, but otherwise mostly cloudy 2627 02:17:42.079 --> 02:17:43.040 with high of seventy seven. 2628 02:17:43.159 --> 02:17:47.000 Seventy three Now traffic time from the UC Help Trampic Center. 2629 02:17:47.120 --> 02:17:51.079 Millions of Americans are living with Alzheimer's or other dimensions. 2630 02:17:51.200 --> 02:17:54.360 Find answers from leading brain health experts that you see 2631 02:17:54.360 --> 02:17:58.360 help learn more at you sehelp dot com. Northbound seventy 2632 02:17:58.399 --> 02:18:01.159 five continues to run close to an extra twenty minutes 2633 02:18:01.200 --> 02:18:04.280 from above seventy four to a broken down semi in 2634 02:18:04.360 --> 02:18:08.280 the left lane near Galbren. Southbound seventy five break rights 2635 02:18:08.319 --> 02:18:12.239 through Lachland Butterworth Roads blocked off above Loveland near Mainville 2636 02:18:12.319 --> 02:18:14.760 Road due to a tree down. Chuck Ingram on fifty 2637 02:18:14.760 --> 02:18:16.360 five to Euroce the talk station. 2638 02:18:18.079 --> 02:18:20.680 Hey, thirty one, fifty five carsite talk station. I love 2639 02:18:20.760 --> 02:18:24.319 Thursdays at this time because you get talked to. iHeartMedia, aviation, 2640 02:18:24.440 --> 02:18:28.200 extort and all around. Great guy. Jay Rattliff, Welcome back, Jay, 2641 02:18:28.239 --> 02:18:30.520 my friend. Pleasure to have you on as always. 2642 02:18:30.799 --> 02:18:33.600 Hey, it's a highlight of my week. Brother. So yeah, 2643 02:18:33.680 --> 02:18:34.360 I'm glad it's. 2644 02:18:34.280 --> 02:18:38.200 Thursday, and we have a seemingly unlimited number of topics 2645 02:18:38.200 --> 02:18:40.280 to go through today based upon the list you gave me. 2646 02:18:40.799 --> 02:18:43.200 I didn't know you do you know why I did that? Though, Okay, 2647 02:18:43.200 --> 02:18:44.520 you didn't mon any curveballs. 2648 02:18:44.879 --> 02:18:48.840 There you go, nineteen different topics. There's no way I'll 2649 02:18:48.840 --> 02:18:52.360 get a car. Forgive me for underestimating your curveball ability. 2650 02:18:52.440 --> 02:18:53.559 My friend, that's okay. 2651 02:18:53.639 --> 02:18:56.920 You have any boy, but you always hit him. You 2652 02:18:56.959 --> 02:18:59.680 always hit him. I mean, you know, I'll tell you 2653 02:18:59.680 --> 02:19:02.399 a curve ball, you hit it. Ye listen, it doesn't 2654 02:19:02.399 --> 02:19:07.639 matter whether it's a slider or Yeah. I real quick 2655 02:19:07.680 --> 02:19:09.559 without having to go down that road. I saw Boeing's 2656 02:19:09.559 --> 02:19:12.319 paying one point one billion to avoid prosecution for the 2657 02:19:12.440 --> 02:19:14.479 seven thirty seven knots crashes. 2658 02:19:15.319 --> 02:19:17.959 No criminal charges. We're not gonna, you know, we're not 2659 02:19:18.000 --> 02:19:20.799 gonna say that we did anything criminally. We're not gonna 2660 02:19:20.799 --> 02:19:22.840 blah blah go to court where it might be drag 2661 02:19:22.920 --> 02:19:25.319 out and a lot of this stuff be rehashed. But 2662 02:19:25.559 --> 02:19:28.040 you know, you and I talked about that's exactly. 2663 02:19:27.639 --> 02:19:28.520 What was going to take place. 2664 02:19:28.559 --> 02:19:31.440 Oh yeah, look, look when President Trump was elected and 2665 02:19:31.479 --> 02:19:33.600 I saw Boeing and all the airlines lining up to 2666 02:19:33.639 --> 02:19:34.879 donate one million. 2667 02:19:34.639 --> 02:19:37.120 Dollars to the Trump Inaugural Fund. 2668 02:19:38.840 --> 02:19:40.920 My thought, here we go again, Yeah, because they're going 2669 02:19:41.000 --> 02:19:43.040 to be allowed to pull this crap time and time 2670 02:19:43.079 --> 02:19:46.760 and time again and once again yeah Boeing after admitting 2671 02:19:46.799 --> 02:19:49.760 they did things, in my estimation criminal criminal. 2672 02:19:50.360 --> 02:19:51.079 I appreciate that. 2673 02:19:52.280 --> 02:19:55.799 No, no, absolutely, I mean other than money. And the 2674 02:19:55.840 --> 02:19:59.120 families are just like beside themselves thinking what does it 2675 02:19:59.159 --> 02:20:03.920 take to get justice or just deliberate over an extended 2676 02:20:03.920 --> 02:20:04.639 period of time that. 2677 02:20:04.600 --> 02:20:10.000 Should have resulted in a massive punitive damage award. Anyway, 2678 02:20:09.559 --> 02:20:14.719 Why would United Airlines want to delay additional cockpits safety requirements? 2679 02:20:14.760 --> 02:20:16.239 You think that they be all over that. 2680 02:20:17.360 --> 02:20:20.399 Well, you know, the thought is right now, the safety 2681 02:20:20.639 --> 02:20:23.239 and it's just not United, it's it's several airlines, but 2682 02:20:23.920 --> 02:20:26.799 it was right now. The safety protocol is if one 2683 02:20:26.799 --> 02:20:29.280 of the crew members in the cockpit needs a laboratory, 2684 02:20:29.360 --> 02:20:31.840 you've got the flight attendant who gets the beverage cart 2685 02:20:31.840 --> 02:20:35.120 and they block access as best they can to the 2686 02:20:35.159 --> 02:20:38.520 galley area into the cockpit as the door opens and shuts. 2687 02:20:39.159 --> 02:20:41.079 And the thought has always been, we've got to have 2688 02:20:41.159 --> 02:20:45.280 something that is more secure than just a male or 2689 02:20:45.280 --> 02:20:46.079 female flight. 2690 02:20:45.879 --> 02:20:50.040 Attendant beverage cards. It does so kind of half assed, but. 2691 02:20:50.440 --> 02:20:53.520 Again it's it's the best we can do. So it 2692 02:20:53.600 --> 02:20:57.360 was decided in now two thousand and nineteen, but then 2693 02:20:57.440 --> 02:20:59.920 finalized in twenty twenty three that we would have a 2694 02:21:00.319 --> 02:21:04.520 secondary cage door, if you will, that flight attendants could 2695 02:21:04.559 --> 02:21:07.959 pull locked shut right there at the beginning of the 2696 02:21:07.959 --> 02:21:11.760 galley that would in essence prevent anybody from getting where 2697 02:21:11.840 --> 02:21:15.719 near that hallway between the galley and the cockpit, where 2698 02:21:15.760 --> 02:21:18.879 someone could exit the cockpit, go the lavatory and come 2699 02:21:18.920 --> 02:21:21.239 back out without any worry at all of anyone being 2700 02:21:21.280 --> 02:21:23.959 able to access the cockpit during a time when that 2701 02:21:24.040 --> 02:21:26.920 door is open. The Airlines were given in twenty twenty 2702 02:21:26.920 --> 02:21:29.719 three a two year deadline until August of twenty twenty 2703 02:21:29.840 --> 02:21:35.719 five to have this underway. Any surprise that they're nowhere 2704 02:21:35.799 --> 02:21:40.120 near that August twenty twenty five deadline, So right now 2705 02:21:40.120 --> 02:21:43.280 they're asking for two more years, and I suspect in 2706 02:21:43.319 --> 02:21:44.799 two years, my friend, you and I are gonna be 2707 02:21:44.840 --> 02:21:49.879 talking about them requesting another extension, because here's my thought, Airlines, 2708 02:21:49.879 --> 02:21:51.920 if they can take a pickle off of a sandwich 2709 02:21:52.000 --> 02:21:54.719 to save X amount of fuel per year, they're. 2710 02:21:54.479 --> 02:21:55.079 Going to do it. 2711 02:21:55.520 --> 02:21:58.719 Now they're being told to add a very heavy security 2712 02:21:58.760 --> 02:22:01.920 cage to the aircraft, when many of them may think 2713 02:22:02.440 --> 02:22:06.040 this is Jay's speculation. Here, Wow, what we're doing works. 2714 02:22:06.280 --> 02:22:08.559 Why do we have to add extra weight which costs 2715 02:22:08.639 --> 02:22:12.079 us extra money blah blah blah to the airplane when 2716 02:22:12.079 --> 02:22:14.639 what we have right now works. So that's why when 2717 02:22:14.680 --> 02:22:17.760 a lot of these bozos talk about safety, is are 2718 02:22:17.840 --> 02:22:19.920 number one priority? I just want to throw up or 2719 02:22:19.920 --> 02:22:22.680 throw something at the TV or whatever I'm watching, because 2720 02:22:22.680 --> 02:22:25.600 I'm thinking, no, it's not. If it was guess what 2721 02:22:25.760 --> 02:22:27.920 two years ago, this would have been a priority. It wasn't, 2722 02:22:28.360 --> 02:22:31.920 not one bit. And the thought process is that eventually 2723 02:22:31.959 --> 02:22:35.399 Airbus m Boeing will be at least offering on their 2724 02:22:35.440 --> 02:22:39.120 package of options, the ability to buy an aircraft with 2725 02:22:39.200 --> 02:22:43.200 one of these you know, caged yeah type, which is 2726 02:22:43.200 --> 02:22:48.079 a secondary barrier to the cockpit door which is already locked, 2727 02:22:48.399 --> 02:22:50.520 and then you've got something else that, when needed can 2728 02:22:50.559 --> 02:22:52.959 be put into place simply swing and locked and when 2729 02:22:52.959 --> 02:22:54.959 not needed swings right back right. 2730 02:22:55.879 --> 02:22:57.559 You know, at least you can say that it's the 2731 02:22:57.559 --> 02:22:58.920 way it costs issue. Period. 2732 02:22:58.959 --> 02:23:01.399 In the story, they're not again security they're just against 2733 02:23:01.440 --> 02:23:02.959 moving in that direction because of the thing. 2734 02:23:03.360 --> 02:23:05.360 If you want it delayed, can you not say that 2735 02:23:05.479 --> 02:23:08.040 you're not as security minded as as we like? And 2736 02:23:08.079 --> 02:23:11.959 again that's my speculation, that's my opinion. That may have 2737 02:23:12.239 --> 02:23:15.600 nothing to do with it. But if airlines are consistent, 2738 02:23:15.639 --> 02:23:18.639 and believe me they are, you'll look at a lot 2739 02:23:18.639 --> 02:23:22.280 of things that the FAA recommends, Hey, you should do 2740 02:23:22.319 --> 02:23:27.760 this because the engine has had issues. Well, no, right, 2741 02:23:28.600 --> 02:23:31.600 you're not being forced to, so they're not in you know, 2742 02:23:32.399 --> 02:23:36.200 contray or any contradiction with an FAA mandate they were offered. 2743 02:23:36.239 --> 02:23:38.159 They said no, yeah, but believe. 2744 02:23:37.879 --> 02:23:42.760 Me, safety is still are number one priority. The engine 2745 02:23:42.760 --> 02:23:44.879 blows up and they're like, oh, yeah, I guess, I 2746 02:23:44.879 --> 02:23:45.760 guess we'll check there. 2747 02:23:45.799 --> 02:23:49.920 The door flies off. Eight thirty seven will continue after 2748 02:23:49.959 --> 02:23:54.559 these brief words, there's a lot of stuff happening, peace steals, 2749 02:23:54.600 --> 02:23:56.879 trade deals, tax deals. 2750 02:23:56.120 --> 02:23:58.479 And stuff like that. And you've got a lot of 2751 02:23:58.559 --> 02:24:02.000 stuff to do, work, family stuff. I got some health stuff. 2752 02:24:02.040 --> 02:24:04.399 So will stuff at all into news updates. 2753 02:24:04.479 --> 02:24:07.000 This is really serious stuff. At the top added bottom 2754 02:24:07.040 --> 02:24:08.879 of the hour, one big beautiful. 2755 02:24:08.559 --> 02:24:10.200 Bill getting the economy going again. 2756 02:24:10.280 --> 02:24:13.079 Harrow stand off with China Russia and Ukraine a severe 2757 02:24:13.079 --> 02:24:13.879 weather threat. 2758 02:24:13.760 --> 02:24:16.600 Paper conclude, checky and often for all this stuff. 2759 02:24:16.639 --> 02:24:22.719 You need to know this stuff on fifty five krs. 2760 02:24:23.399 --> 02:24:27.159 Channelin weather rain, rain, shower, storms, fossil eighty for the 2761 02:24:27.239 --> 02:24:29.600 high Thaudi over night sixty seven. Got some rain in 2762 02:24:29.639 --> 02:24:33.520 the evening afternoon hours tomorrow. Maybe some storms eighty for 2763 02:24:33.600 --> 02:24:37.319 the high rain likely over night Friday as well. Storms 2764 02:24:37.360 --> 02:24:40.159 are expected in a Hello of sixty five seventy seven 2765 02:24:40.319 --> 02:24:43.639 high Saturday with mostly fatday skys. It's seventy three right now. 2766 02:24:43.680 --> 02:24:45.600 Traffic times from the. 2767 02:24:45.719 --> 02:24:48.879 U see up Traumphics Center. Millions of Americans are living 2768 02:24:48.879 --> 02:24:53.239 with Alzheimer's or other dementias. Fine answers from leading brain 2769 02:24:53.280 --> 02:24:56.159 health experts that you see health learn more at you 2770 02:24:56.280 --> 02:24:57.520 see health dot com. 2771 02:24:57.600 --> 02:24:58.840 Northbound seventy five. 2772 02:24:59.239 --> 02:25:02.200 Just a few break fights between buttermilk and piles, then 2773 02:25:02.440 --> 02:25:05.680 very heavy above seventy four. Good for an extra twenty 2774 02:25:05.680 --> 02:25:07.959 minutes into lock on thanks to a broken down a 2775 02:25:08.040 --> 02:25:11.040 gap where that box them up lane Chuck Ingram on 2776 02:25:11.120 --> 02:25:13.239 fifty five KARC the talk station. 2777 02:25:14.920 --> 02:25:17.040 Have you ever been in a cockpit before? Hey? Forty 2778 02:25:17.079 --> 02:25:18.600 one fifty about KRCD talk station. 2779 02:25:19.040 --> 02:25:21.600 Jay Ratliff has I ared me the aviation expert going 2780 02:25:21.600 --> 02:25:23.680 through the topics. I want to jump ahead on your 2781 02:25:23.680 --> 02:25:26.360 list because I'm wildly curious to know why the TSA 2782 02:25:26.520 --> 02:25:30.399 is warning travelers against using airport charging stations. 2783 02:25:31.040 --> 02:25:31.920 They're being hacked. 2784 02:25:32.360 --> 02:25:34.000 Oh no, what happened. 2785 02:25:34.159 --> 02:25:36.239 What happens is a lot of times when we travel, 2786 02:25:36.280 --> 02:25:39.680 most of us carry with us the devices we need. 2787 02:25:39.520 --> 02:25:41.399 To recharge our electronics. 2788 02:25:41.440 --> 02:25:43.639 Sure, but sometimes you go to an airport and they'll 2789 02:25:43.639 --> 02:25:46.879 have the central charging station with a lot of different 2790 02:25:47.079 --> 02:25:49.360 outlets that's provided by the airport, and you go up 2791 02:25:49.360 --> 02:25:51.920 and you know, just plug it in and go right. Well, 2792 02:25:52.280 --> 02:25:56.719 apparently some individuals, through technology that I don't understand, have 2793 02:25:56.799 --> 02:26:01.959 the ability to utilize these charging stations, and if somebody 2794 02:26:02.680 --> 02:26:04.479 charges the device, there's a way. 2795 02:26:04.360 --> 02:26:06.280 That they can hack into that device while. 2796 02:26:06.120 --> 02:26:09.440 It's there, allowing them to gain access to everything that's 2797 02:26:09.440 --> 02:26:13.319 on your device, which means passwords and financial information and 2798 02:26:13.399 --> 02:26:16.040 anything else that you might have happen to have that 2799 02:26:16.120 --> 02:26:19.239 you use that device for. So the TSA thing being 2800 02:26:19.319 --> 02:26:22.239 very careful as you do this, because several people have 2801 02:26:22.319 --> 02:26:24.120 reported this taking place. 2802 02:26:24.159 --> 02:26:27.360 It's a lot like the ATM. 2803 02:26:27.479 --> 02:26:30.760 Sometimes people slap something on there that looks like where 2804 02:26:30.760 --> 02:26:33.040 you would put the card, and when you do, it's 2805 02:26:33.040 --> 02:26:35.760 not to access the ATM or whatever. It's for somebody 2806 02:26:35.799 --> 02:26:38.840 to read the information, get your information, then use that 2807 02:26:39.200 --> 02:26:42.200 to steal from you. And it's a similar type approach 2808 02:26:42.200 --> 02:26:45.479 here where these charging stations are being used as a 2809 02:26:46.200 --> 02:26:50.000 conduit for people to access some of our private information. 2810 02:26:50.280 --> 02:26:53.440 A little advance into tech. Friday's Day Hatter. Every Friday 2811 02:26:53.479 --> 02:26:54.440 at six thirty. 2812 02:26:54.239 --> 02:26:56.840 I'll leave that dar brother Dave to go deep in 2813 02:26:56.879 --> 02:26:58.600 the weeds there. That's as far as I can go. 2814 02:26:58.959 --> 02:27:02.879 That's great, Okay, Now, how is it that airlines are 2815 02:27:02.959 --> 02:27:05.920 charging solo travelers more than couples? 2816 02:27:06.040 --> 02:27:06.559 I mean, don't. 2817 02:27:06.719 --> 02:27:09.719 Aren't tickets purchased individually, whether you're going as a couple 2818 02:27:09.799 --> 02:27:10.559 or an individual. 2819 02:27:11.440 --> 02:27:14.959 They are, But then you're you're giving airlines far too 2820 02:27:15.040 --> 02:27:17.200 much credit. If there's a way that they can zing us, 2821 02:27:17.799 --> 02:27:20.200 they're gonna do it, because what happens is a lot 2822 02:27:20.200 --> 02:27:23.639 of times when you have people that are traveling, let's 2823 02:27:23.639 --> 02:27:28.239 say on a couple, they're traveling, they're cost conscious and 2824 02:27:28.319 --> 02:27:31.120 as such, what happens is they'll look for the cheapest 2825 02:27:31.120 --> 02:27:36.000 fair and they're not as interested in schedule as much 2826 02:27:36.200 --> 02:27:39.399 as they are in the cheapest fair. But individuals are 2827 02:27:39.399 --> 02:27:42.520 traveling by themselves. Many times it's for business and they're 2828 02:27:43.040 --> 02:27:47.799 secondary cost conscious, primary the schedule. So what has been 2829 02:27:47.879 --> 02:27:51.239 found out is there have been occasions where we've had 2830 02:27:51.639 --> 02:27:56.680 airlines that are charging for if you had a couple 2831 02:27:56.719 --> 02:27:59.879 flying round trip on a specific route, it might be 2832 02:28:00.000 --> 02:28:03.000 two hundred and sixty six dollars per person round trip. 2833 02:28:03.760 --> 02:28:06.319 If you put in a search for one person traveling 2834 02:28:06.319 --> 02:28:09.479 on the same dates, same flights, same airline, it's not 2835 02:28:09.719 --> 02:28:10.799 two sixty. 2836 02:28:10.440 --> 02:28:11.399 Six, it's four to twelve. 2837 02:28:11.639 --> 02:28:12.239 Oh wow. 2838 02:28:13.639 --> 02:28:15.120 And the thought is, wait a minute, time out here. 2839 02:28:15.399 --> 02:28:17.520 We're all on the same airplane, we're flying at the 2840 02:28:17.520 --> 02:28:20.239 same time, and checking what airlines are doing is saying, 2841 02:28:20.280 --> 02:28:23.799 you know, that business traveler has to be there, so 2842 02:28:23.920 --> 02:28:26.159 let's you know, I had a little premium to that 2843 02:28:26.239 --> 02:28:30.920 man or woman's fair. So it's it's something that you know, 2844 02:28:30.959 --> 02:28:33.479 forgive me for saying this, but it's true. It would 2845 02:28:33.520 --> 02:28:36.479 never have happened under the Biden administration. This kind of 2846 02:28:36.520 --> 02:28:41.360 crap where airlines are blatantly doing things, is that the 2847 02:28:41.760 --> 02:28:45.600 Bide administration would have done something about it. It just 2848 02:28:45.719 --> 02:28:47.360 you know, and I told you, I said the bide. 2849 02:28:47.360 --> 02:28:49.799 Deministration drove me crazy. There was nothing I liked about 2850 02:28:49.840 --> 02:28:54.120 it other than they held airlines accountable. And the Trump administration, 2851 02:28:54.159 --> 02:28:57.360 which I'm thrilled he's our president. The airlines are going 2852 02:28:57.399 --> 02:29:00.159 to be given some latitude. So if I'm traveling by 2853 02:29:00.159 --> 02:29:02.760 myself on an upcoming trip, I'll be checking the airline's 2854 02:29:02.799 --> 02:29:05.399 website as well a third party website, and I will 2855 02:29:05.440 --> 02:29:08.879 be checking for two people flying from here to Vegas 2856 02:29:08.920 --> 02:29:11.760 or wherever I need to go to on business. And 2857 02:29:11.760 --> 02:29:14.159 then I'm going to change that search from two people 2858 02:29:14.479 --> 02:29:17.079 to one, and I'm going to make sure it's the same. 2859 02:29:17.159 --> 02:29:17.840 Fair There you go. 2860 02:29:17.879 --> 02:29:21.600 American Airlines, American Airlines, United and others have been caught 2861 02:29:22.559 --> 02:29:26.319 excessively charging passengers and they're gonna say whatever craft They're 2862 02:29:26.319 --> 02:29:28.479 gonna say as far as well, it's based on demand, 2863 02:29:28.520 --> 02:29:29.360 blah blah blah. 2864 02:29:29.440 --> 02:29:31.120 Yeah, it's based on. 2865 02:29:31.120 --> 02:29:34.440 Them trying to squeeze every penny out of us as 2866 02:29:34.440 --> 02:29:37.000 they can't. And when you catch somebody doing that, if 2867 02:29:37.040 --> 02:29:41.159 they're your airline of choice, maybe find another airline. 2868 02:29:41.239 --> 02:29:45.440 Yeah, there you go. Appreciate the pro tip there too. 2869 02:29:45.600 --> 02:29:48.280 Day it's eight forty five, will continue, won't get through 2870 02:29:48.319 --> 02:29:50.840 the whole list today, though we've got some good stuff 2871 02:29:50.840 --> 02:29:54.319 to go over. One more segment with day Ratliffe a 2872 02:29:54.520 --> 02:29:55.559 series of events. 2873 02:29:55.879 --> 02:30:00.399 The most important event make four eventful days the Middle 2874 02:30:00.440 --> 02:30:01.360 East making. 2875 02:30:01.040 --> 02:30:02.639 Peace deals and trade deals. 2876 02:30:02.680 --> 02:30:04.520 Gatari funded air Force one. 2877 02:30:04.559 --> 02:30:05.879 It's a great gesture. 2878 02:30:05.520 --> 02:30:09.559 Cutting pharmaceutical drug prices in these eventful times. 2879 02:30:09.559 --> 02:30:12.040 More time to pass this big beautiful bill. 2880 02:30:11.959 --> 02:30:13.680 Buying time with time. 2881 02:30:14.079 --> 02:30:17.719 In any event important events, I'll press it into events. 2882 02:30:17.760 --> 02:30:21.959 Checky everything that's happening in real top fifty five krs 2883 02:30:22.040 --> 02:30:25.799 the talk station. Final look at the weather. 2884 02:30:27.120 --> 02:30:29.680 Rain, showers and some storms are possible and kind of 2885 02:30:29.680 --> 02:30:32.079 in waves eighty for the high. Overnight low sixty seven 2886 02:30:32.399 --> 02:30:34.920 with clouds Tomorrow in the afternoon and evening hours. 2887 02:30:34.760 --> 02:30:36.479 String showers and storms will develop. 2888 02:30:36.520 --> 02:30:39.319 We'll see high at lead Overnight rain is likely, maybe 2889 02:30:39.319 --> 02:30:42.000 some storms sixty five for the low and mostly cloudy Saturday, 2890 02:30:42.079 --> 02:30:43.319 high at seventy seven. 2891 02:30:43.079 --> 02:30:46.159 Closing out at seventy two. Time for final traffic from 2892 02:30:46.239 --> 02:30:47.479 the uc UP Trampic Center. 2893 02:30:47.559 --> 02:30:51.760 Megans of Americans are living with Alzheimer's and other dementias. 2894 02:30:51.840 --> 02:30:55.280 Fine answers from leading brain held experts that you see 2895 02:30:55.280 --> 02:30:58.440 help learn more and you see help dot com northbound. 2896 02:30:58.479 --> 02:30:59.959 Seventy five slows a bit fun. 2897 02:30:59.840 --> 02:31:03.280 And to Carlo's been very heavy above seventy four to 2898 02:31:03.360 --> 02:31:06.040 a broken down semi in the left lane, New York Cowbern. 2899 02:31:06.120 --> 02:31:07.840 That's over a twenty minute delay. 2900 02:31:08.120 --> 02:31:11.479 I found seventy one slows a bit at Redbank, Chuck Ingram, 2901 02:31:11.559 --> 02:31:12.840 I'm fifty five krcs. 2902 02:31:12.879 --> 02:31:15.760 He talked station Hey forty nine. 2903 02:31:15.760 --> 02:31:18.479 I think about Kersee talks DAS one more with IRMDIA 2904 02:31:18.479 --> 02:31:21.879 aviation expert Jay Ratliffe. Jay Dave had it from interest 2905 02:31:21.959 --> 02:31:23.920 I to you is listening. You know what that concept 2906 02:31:24.000 --> 02:31:29.280 is called juice jacking. Juice jackie, juice jacking. So when 2907 02:31:29.280 --> 02:31:30.079 somebody's still. 2908 02:31:29.840 --> 02:31:31.799 Going to steal that, I know, No, don't like it 2909 02:31:31.840 --> 02:31:32.520 was my word. 2910 02:31:32.639 --> 02:31:33.239 It's a thing. 2911 02:31:33.879 --> 02:31:35.719 I mean if if Dave says it, it's a thing, 2912 02:31:35.760 --> 02:31:37.559 I don't think he's pulling up the whole cloth. 2913 02:31:37.639 --> 02:31:40.920 So he's gonna steal his words. Juice jacking. 2914 02:31:41.000 --> 02:31:41.479 Yeah, I can. 2915 02:31:41.399 --> 02:31:43.799 Guarantee you I will get it wrong and say something 2916 02:31:43.959 --> 02:31:44.879 totally stupid. 2917 02:31:44.920 --> 02:31:46.840 It's close to that, but well we'll see. 2918 02:31:46.840 --> 02:31:47.440 But thank you, Dave. 2919 02:31:47.520 --> 02:31:50.040 You get a phrasing button from Joe on that as well. 2920 02:31:50.440 --> 02:31:54.079 All right, just because it's a funny story, and even 2921 02:31:54.159 --> 02:31:56.840 though I will be sixty in September, it still sounds 2922 02:31:56.840 --> 02:31:59.840 like something I'd like to do. The two year old 2923 02:32:00.159 --> 02:32:03.360 at Newark Airport. 2924 02:32:04.239 --> 02:32:06.120 Cue the music mission Impossible music. 2925 02:32:06.159 --> 02:32:06.520 I guess. 2926 02:32:06.600 --> 02:32:08.719 Yeah. 2927 02:32:08.799 --> 02:32:10.959 Mom and dad are checking in at the Jet Blue 2928 02:32:11.159 --> 02:32:13.600 ticket counter and this little two year old is doing 2929 02:32:13.600 --> 02:32:16.239 what two year olds do, just you know, everywhere. Next thing, 2930 02:32:16.280 --> 02:32:18.079 you know, he kind of gets away from mom and dad, 2931 02:32:18.079 --> 02:32:21.840 who apparently their attention was elsewhere, and he goes over 2932 02:32:21.920 --> 02:32:25.200 the little step over behind the ticket counter. 2933 02:32:25.319 --> 02:32:26.120 The Jet Blue. 2934 02:32:25.879 --> 02:32:29.319 Agents, yeah, I guess they don't seem he remains invisible, 2935 02:32:29.520 --> 02:32:31.319 and he gets on the baggage. 2936 02:32:30.879 --> 02:32:32.399 Belt and down he goes. 2937 02:32:33.760 --> 02:32:37.600 He's down and turning the corner before he disappears, before 2938 02:32:37.760 --> 02:32:40.440 anybody really spots him, and by that time it's too late. Now, 2939 02:32:41.760 --> 02:32:45.280 this isn't a toboggan kind of ride, because what happens 2940 02:32:45.399 --> 02:32:48.719 is those bags have security codes on him, or codes 2941 02:32:49.040 --> 02:32:52.280 that the labels that as it's going through there, they 2942 02:32:52.319 --> 02:32:55.959 had these large arms that are calibrated for bags that 2943 02:32:56.040 --> 02:32:59.559 could be forty to fifty pounds that move those bags 2944 02:32:59.600 --> 02:33:02.680 with some force to other belts that are going in 2945 02:33:02.719 --> 02:33:05.120 other places, so that the bags can be directed where 2946 02:33:05.120 --> 02:33:08.559 they need to be. Now, seriously, if a toddler was 2947 02:33:08.600 --> 02:33:12.280 down there, one of these calibrated arms were to activate 2948 02:33:12.879 --> 02:33:16.319 prematurely and strike the child, it would kill him. 2949 02:33:16.680 --> 02:33:19.920 Oh oh yeah, it's oh so it's not as it's 2950 02:33:19.920 --> 02:33:22.360 not as comedic as I was thinking it would be 2951 02:33:22.360 --> 02:33:22.799 because we. 2952 02:33:22.760 --> 02:33:23.239 Know the kids. 2953 02:33:23.280 --> 02:33:27.559 Okay, no, but because we've had some we a lot 2954 02:33:27.559 --> 02:33:29.639 of times. You'll see them put the really really small 2955 02:33:29.680 --> 02:33:33.239 bags in a in a toboggan thing and the because 2956 02:33:33.360 --> 02:33:36.159 the reason for that is when the arms hit, we 2957 02:33:36.280 --> 02:33:39.440 want the carrier to take the force of it because 2958 02:33:39.479 --> 02:33:43.360 if not, you're gonna damage. Bag claims go lower as 2959 02:33:43.360 --> 02:33:46.479 those bags go flying off the wall. But what happens 2960 02:33:46.559 --> 02:33:49.840 is there's a video that's gone viral of a TSA room. 2961 02:33:50.200 --> 02:33:53.920 They're screening bags, several agents. It's black and white, and 2962 02:33:53.959 --> 02:33:57.319 here comes the belt down from the ceiling bag bag 2963 02:33:57.399 --> 02:33:59.879 two year old toddler, bag bag bag and then everybody 2964 02:34:00.120 --> 02:34:03.639 grammer to go grab him, and fortunately he was okay, 2965 02:34:03.760 --> 02:34:07.319 reunited with the careless parent. 2966 02:34:07.520 --> 02:34:10.399 Careless parents, Well, look. 2967 02:34:10.680 --> 02:34:14.399 Every one of us have momentarily lost track of our kids. 2968 02:34:15.120 --> 02:34:16.319 You just don't want it to be in a point 2969 02:34:16.319 --> 02:34:18.399 where they can be in that kind of danger and 2970 02:34:18.440 --> 02:34:20.840 believe me, could have ended that way. But if you 2971 02:34:21.159 --> 02:34:22.920 if you want to a chuckle and I hate to 2972 02:34:23.000 --> 02:34:24.559 use that word, you can go to YouTube and there's 2973 02:34:24.600 --> 02:34:27.360 several examples of kids that just. 2974 02:34:27.280 --> 02:34:28.040 Went for a ride. 2975 02:34:28.520 --> 02:34:31.959 One poor lady who thought that the bag behind the 2976 02:34:32.120 --> 02:34:36.719 counter was the moving sidewalk to her gate and she 2977 02:34:36.840 --> 02:34:40.559 stepped on it and wrote it around until the wall 2978 02:34:40.719 --> 02:34:42.719 kind of knocked her down and she disappeared on the 2979 02:34:42.719 --> 02:34:44.920 other side of the wall. It was an elderly lady. 2980 02:34:44.959 --> 02:34:49.000 Fortunately she was okay. But wow, yeah, those things happened. 2981 02:34:49.120 --> 02:34:51.000 I guess they do. I understand. 2982 02:34:51.040 --> 02:34:54.319 Atlanta Airport is changing the way they screened their crew members, 2983 02:34:54.319 --> 02:34:56.879 the airline flight crews. What's this one about. 2984 02:34:57.239 --> 02:34:58.760 It's called non crew members. 2985 02:34:59.239 --> 02:35:01.719 It's a program that allows if you and our pilots 2986 02:35:01.760 --> 02:35:04.920 in uniform active duty lighting sentence as well, we can 2987 02:35:04.959 --> 02:35:08.319 actually go through a separate line at the airport for screening. 2988 02:35:08.399 --> 02:35:09.840 I found that most of the time, most of them, 2989 02:35:09.840 --> 02:35:12.239 we're not gonna be screened, okay, which be sure, I 2990 02:35:12.280 --> 02:35:14.840 D Boom will go right through. Occasionally the FA is 2991 02:35:14.840 --> 02:35:16.840 gonna pull one of us out for screening. It's called 2992 02:35:16.920 --> 02:35:21.200 random screening. That FAA loves random screening. I hate random screening. 2993 02:35:21.280 --> 02:35:23.239 But anyways, because I always say, if it's such a 2994 02:35:23.239 --> 02:35:25.799 good idea, my friends at the FA, let's do with passengers. 2995 02:35:25.840 --> 02:35:27.840 And of course we'll love to do that. But in 2996 02:35:27.879 --> 02:35:31.760 Atlanta brand they're finding all these pilots that have loaded firearms. 2997 02:35:32.959 --> 02:35:38.000 Oh wow, whoops, excuse me. So they're saying, I guess 2998 02:35:38.040 --> 02:35:41.079 this random stuff isn't working like we thought it should, 2999 02:35:41.200 --> 02:35:43.760 so they are going to drop that go to a 3000 02:35:44.680 --> 02:35:48.360 different crew members screening type program. It's probably still gonna 3001 02:35:48.360 --> 02:35:51.079 have some random nature to it, but something that is going, 3002 02:35:51.159 --> 02:35:54.520 in essence require more screening for the crew members. And 3003 02:35:54.559 --> 02:35:57.559 it needs to remember Atlanta was the place that also 3004 02:35:57.680 --> 02:36:00.479 did not screen employees from the time they went from 3005 02:36:00.520 --> 02:36:03.719 the parking lot to the ramp. It was random. And 3006 02:36:03.799 --> 02:36:05.959 they found out that there was a gun smuggling ring 3007 02:36:06.000 --> 02:36:08.959 by some Delta agents between Atlanta and New York, and 3008 02:36:09.000 --> 02:36:12.760 they decided, hmm, maybe we should start screening every single person. 3009 02:36:13.559 --> 02:36:17.120 It wor only handful of airports in the country do it. 3010 02:36:17.159 --> 02:36:20.159 And you I've talked about it forever, and I've been 3011 02:36:20.159 --> 02:36:23.479 talking about it for thirty years. You have airports that 3012 02:36:23.600 --> 02:36:27.280 have collectively across the country, probably a million people a 3013 02:36:27.360 --> 02:36:30.159 month that touch airplanes that aren't screened. If we're talking 3014 02:36:30.200 --> 02:36:33.200 about catering, if we're talking about the fuel, talking about 3015 02:36:33.239 --> 02:36:36.479 the ground agents. Now they are randomly screened, and I 3016 02:36:36.479 --> 02:36:39.000 always get mean emails from the FA anytime I say it, 3017 02:36:39.040 --> 02:36:41.360 are not screened, But I'm sorry, I don't look at 3018 02:36:41.479 --> 02:36:45.479 random as an effective means of security. Ladly, one of 3019 02:36:45.479 --> 02:36:48.959 these individuals could be coerced bribed into putting something they 3020 02:36:49.000 --> 02:36:53.319 think is non dangerous on an airplane, only to find 3021 02:36:53.319 --> 02:36:56.479 out it very much is. Yea, and those types of things. 3022 02:36:56.559 --> 02:36:59.600 And again, we spend billions of dollars inside the security 3023 02:36:59.719 --> 02:37:02.319 for airports, and we showed we should totally do that. 3024 02:37:02.760 --> 02:37:05.440 But there's other measures we need to be taking. In Atlanta, 3025 02:37:05.479 --> 02:37:07.319 they're going to be making one of those changes. 3026 02:37:07.120 --> 02:37:08.680 Fair enough, all right, as we do. We have to 3027 02:37:08.680 --> 02:37:10.680 part company, which I don't like, but we do. So 3028 02:37:10.760 --> 02:37:11.879 let's end on hub delays. 3029 02:37:12.200 --> 02:37:14.920 Yeah, that's the quite fastest segment of the week for me, Detroit, 3030 02:37:15.040 --> 02:37:17.040 Dallas and Charlotte. And I think Charlotte's going to be 3031 02:37:17.040 --> 02:37:19.559 the absolute headache of the day. So if you're connecting 3032 02:37:19.559 --> 02:37:20.719 on America through Charlotte. 3033 02:37:20.760 --> 02:37:22.280 Make sure they have Boay to get a hold of you. 3034 02:37:22.360 --> 02:37:24.479 Get to the airport a little early because we're going 3035 02:37:24.559 --> 02:37:26.440 to be seeing some flight delays through that hub today. 3036 02:37:27.079 --> 02:37:28.879 Really enjoy our time together, Jay. I look forward to 3037 02:37:28.879 --> 02:37:31.399 next Thursday and doing it again. And as always, best 3038 02:37:31.440 --> 02:37:33.360 of health and loved you and your better half. Take 3039 02:37:33.399 --> 02:37:34.360 care of my friend. 3040 02:37:34.680 --> 02:37:35.200 You too as well. 3041 02:37:35.239 --> 02:37:37.719 Thank you, heyf you five if you bub Kennasity Talk Station, 3042 02:37:37.840 --> 02:37:38.719 wonderful line up. 3043 02:37:38.760 --> 02:37:39.040 Thank you. 3044 02:37:39.120 --> 02:37:41.680 Joe Streker, Jack Windsor, editor in chief of the Ohio 3045 02:37:41.719 --> 02:37:45.399 Press Network and kind of investigative reporter hosts The Windsor Report. 3046 02:37:45.600 --> 02:37:48.040 We talked about medicaid fraud, which is a great springboard 3047 02:37:48.079 --> 02:37:52.280 of my conversation full hour with Jennifer Gross, representating District 3048 02:37:52.319 --> 02:37:54.520 forty five here in Ohio. We did talk medicaid, we 3049 02:37:54.559 --> 02:37:59.639 did talk about the the six hundred million dollars and 3050 02:37:59.719 --> 02:38:02.360 other aspects of the budget, and we talked a lot 3051 02:38:02.440 --> 02:38:06.840 about property tax. So well worthy conversation with Jennifer's pleasure 3052 02:38:06.879 --> 02:38:09.360 heaven Or in studio and answered quite a few questions. 3053 02:38:09.719 --> 02:38:12.360 Plus Jay Rattliff you podcast all that fifty five KRC 3054 02:38:12.479 --> 02:38:15.280 dot com. Thanks again, Joe Stricker for everything you do. 3055 02:38:15.719 --> 02:38:18.479 I'll look forward tomorrow with Tech Friday's Dave Hatter, who's 3056 02:38:18.479 --> 02:38:21.200 out there intrust it dot COM's rEFInd Dave and learn 3057 02:38:21.239 --> 02:38:23.440 a lot. Every Friday at six point thirty, folks, I 3058 02:38:23.479 --> 02:38:26.639 hope you have a wonderful day and don'lkle wegg Lenbeck's next. 3059 02:38:26.920 --> 02:38:30.479 Stay on top of the day's biggest stories at the top. 3060 02:38:30.280 --> 02:38:31.719 Of the hour, and that's so important. 3061 02:38:31.840 --> 02:38:36.159 Another update coming up on fifty five KRC, the talkstation. 3062 02:38:36.440 --> 02:38:37.879 This report is sponsored by A Tree