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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice

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mix in some vodka. Call it a podcast from the

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Mac of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by

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Victor Chrysler Dods Jeep Ram. It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome. Thank you forgetting your pun on.

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Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the

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word about the pirate ship. Danny's been a while. I know, Hei, Gosh,

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you're there and here. I can't see you. No, I

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don't know what you do. I can't see you. I

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can't see the Buffalo bills anymore. I can't see them.

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We'll get into all that stuff because I know that

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you've been chopping at the bit. We didn't get to

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do the Kansas City game uh last week, which I'm

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sure you had some serious thoughts about how bad they

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sucked in that game. And we'll uh we'll hear all

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that coming up with you and Peter and Juice will

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be get on to tell us, uh what picks to

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pick for? Uh? What are we week eleven? Now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Juice had a rough week last week. He sent

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me his picks. Wow, and I bet some money. Oh No,

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I lost like before one o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was a bad it was a weird, it

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was bad. It was a weekend. Yes, it was very strange,

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bad football weekend, very strange, a lot of bad football,

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particularly in Miami.

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Speaker 3: But we'll get to that later.

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Speaker 2: I am very excited about Uh. I like this, and

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I'm gonna have to really discipline myself and try to

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wait for the weekend or maybe Friday evening.

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Speaker 3: Well that's what the adderall is for.

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Speaker 2: To watch it well, to watch Uh. Sometimes I just go,

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I break right through serious animal comes. I'm like, you've

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already already. I can break through y adderall. Yeah, I've

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had a up at a lot so yeah. Well, like honestly, uh,

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today I had a lot of stuff to do and

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I did not sleep well last night at all, Like

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I was. I could not fall asleep. I don't think

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I fell asleep till three, and then my alarm went

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off at six thirty and I got up and I've

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been powered through ever since.

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Speaker 3: If you want to fall asleep, close your eyes and

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then just dart your eyes back. And yeah, that was

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as hard as you can, as long as you can.

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It wasn't working for me, yester, did you try it?

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Did you really try that the first time you're hearing this?

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Speaker 2: Now, I had heard this before, because one I think

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you've mentioned it, okay, and I think I had Usually

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I try to read or something like that. I just

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had a There's a lot that's happening that I'm waiting

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a little bit of time to talk about. But uh so,

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there's been.

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Speaker 3: Tried doing homework that always puts me to sleep when

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I was a kid.

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Speaker 2: No, I did not. And I have a lot right

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because now I'm coming up on crunch time.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, finals coming up?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, finals, projects to just a lot.

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Speaker 3: I had a woman tell me today that she's leaving

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sales for three hundred thousand dollars a year job to

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go into mental health counseling.

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 3: Yes, she think she's burned out from sales. She's been

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doing it for thirty years. Yeah, and she's been taking

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classes without her employer knowing, and that she is now

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going into mental health counseling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I can see that. I mean, I think that

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you start to see the benefit of it. It can

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be rough. I can tell you that it can be

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a rough journey for yourself. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, rough?

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Speaker 2: Journey for your because.

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Speaker 3: You're discovering things about you as you're learning about everyone else.

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Speaker 2: You're discovering things about I'd be a wreck. No, not

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by OCD, not because I got that.

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Speaker 4: I got that.

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Speaker 2: I did an assessment. So you had to do a

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personality assessment and there was like three hundred and sixty

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five questions or something on there. And these tests are

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really really incredible because they even have a section where

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you're answering questions. You don't know this at the time,

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but it's like is this likely very likely? Unlike you

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know whatever, and you have to mark it in and

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a lot of it is to how accurately and honestly

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you're answering these questions, and they're like, what's that?

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Speaker 3: Is each question of a point value?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, when you go back through and score it,

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scoring is like it it took two classes to finish

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the test and then and it so I think we

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took an hour and a half and an hour and

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a half another time, and then we did the scoring process.

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in my cohort are like, these young girls are going,

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oh my god, I came out like schizophrenic, and they go,

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what about what about you? And I said, I came

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out really normal, like no elevated anything, except for in

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the next level up from don't worry about this to hey,

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you may be a little bit concerned, especially if you're

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the upper end with anger. Not surprising, but this is

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over a lifetime of stuff that we're talking about too, right,

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and drinking, and so then what you have. You had

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to go back and write a report on the test,

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and you had to break down how it scored and

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what this is and each section and what these things

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mean and all that, and then do an analysis of

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the results and come up with a diagnosis. Is there

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a diagnosable anything here? You know, like people go, well,

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they're schizophrenic. Schizophrenia has a real you gotta have. You

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got to meet real criteria. Bipolar you got to meet

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certain criteria. Yes, it's like a month long thing.

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Speaker 3: So especially with those new drug commercials coming out.

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Speaker 2: Oh there's different right, and like iipolar and one bipolar two,

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and so people get all all twisted.

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Speaker 3: Too.

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Speaker 2: So I found it to be. I felt great after that.

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I was like yeah, and then and then said like

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slightly elevated levels of stress. I go, yeah, this is

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over a lifetime. I was married, I got molested. I mean,

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what are you talking about it?

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Speaker 3: Er?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, that way I got molested, married and

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molested again. God, anybody around Saint Patrick, say a couple

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of years ago the second time, fucking unrad.

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Speaker 3: No, Like when I used to go to the psychiatrist,

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the drug doctor, not the psychologist. You got to like

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take a score test first when you walk in, and

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they'd look at your points and go, okay, I'm gonna

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up this or down this or whatever, right, and a

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lot of it twenty sometimes I'd be in the fives.

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Speaker 2: Well, the tough part with that is any given day

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you're gonna feel differently. Oh yeah, And so you're trying

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to look for something that's going to be sustained accuracy,

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two weeks later to see do you score within at

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least five point range of each other and consistently?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, they want to establish a baseline. Right,

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So listen, it's a mental health counsel. You you have

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to figure out yourself first before you can help anybody else.

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Is that part of the process.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know. I've heard that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that maybe, I mean it's probably good.

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Here's what I would say. You want to be aware

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of your blind spots, your prejudices, your biases, favor it

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is that you kind of just know, like, hey, I'm

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not great with this because I think it's overreaction and

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people are a little bit of whiny or whatever. So

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that's not my field, depending on what that is. But

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it is interesting because what I'm starting to say is

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I'm very excited because tonight the Eddie Murphy documentary drops

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on Netflix. Oh I've been waiting and waiting for this.

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Just just to give you a little taste, I've done

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so many different types of things. Good morning, my neighbor.

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Speaker 1: You had that appointment, your destiny.

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Speaker 3: He changed the way we I remember that scene. Yes

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you too, Shrick, Shrick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it just looks great. It's called being Eddie,

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and I think of like people in that line of work,

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it's very hard to maintain a career. We see the

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guys with the longevity, the Harrison Ford's right, the guys

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that kind of made it and stayed but for comedy,

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especially you know, the vehicle can run out, stick becomes old.

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There's all this stuff. And Eddie Murphy didn't remember when

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we sent my grandmother to see Norbit. Yeah, and she

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reviewed it for us on the break room. Yeah, the

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late Agnes Dolan. But I was really interested in this

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and one of the big things, like I think the

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Post had a big article today going Eddie Murphy was

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so upset over David Spade's joke. I think it was

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nineteen ninety five when he was doing Spade in America.

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And here's a little bit of that. If you don't

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remember around.

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen stay in America with say.

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Speaker 5: Alright, good crowd, thanks for staying up. Okay, Well, I

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got a fan letter here from Indiana and I like

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to read it to you. It says, dear David, why

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are you such an idiot? Every time I see you,

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I want to punch you in the face. Sincerely, Danny Minton. Ps,

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why don't you ever do Hollywood minute anymore?

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Speaker 4: Look?

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Speaker 5: Children, it's a falling star. Make a wish it was.

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Speaker 2: Eddie Murphy did that Vampires in Brooklyn movie, Yes, And

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it had horrible reviews, and so he said he put

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up a picture of that. He goes, hey, look, children,

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uh a former SNL cast member.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the first cast member I believe to host

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the show, which I'm sure went over real well with

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing that's so strange. It is because

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and what a whiner, and why not just talk about that?

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he says is if there was a joke now about

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a former SNL cast member about how fucked up their

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career was, it would get shot down. Oh that's what

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he's saying. And he goes, it went through all those

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channels that a joke has to go through, and then

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it was on the air. He's like, no one stopped it.

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was like fuck SNL, you know. And he said, that's

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why that's what you all think of me. Well, you're

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dirty motherfuckers, and that's why I didn't go back for years.

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Speaker 3: Lord Michael's allowed it. He stops with him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a funny joke. It is because

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you've got I mean, I get it. You're you're trying

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to come up with the comedy on the spot. It's

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a little bit shocking, any of these shocking that you

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would roast one of your own.

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Speaker 3: At the same time, though you are a comic.

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Speaker 2: This is what you do.

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Speaker 3: If you could dish it out, you should be able

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to take it too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I like we had that rule of the breakroom. Man,

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if you can't laugh at yourself, then don't make fun

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Speaker 2: Right, But when you were one of the guys that

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made the show what it had become, like really carried

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and really it was the second generation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was young. I think he was nineteen

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when he joined the cast of 'sn L. I mean

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that that's a baby.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Remember when you were nineteen what we were doing it

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night Gosh, I was in college. Okay, I was an idiot. Yeah,

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I was in college. I got on the radio and

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I was doing that. I don't know. It's a funny

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thing because one of the things that I'm finding, and

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maybe it's something even in yourself as you sort of

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do self exploration, is I have a real problem with

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weak people and I think that a lot of people

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who have had trauma in their lives, and trauma could

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Speaker 2: So I would say though a lot of those people

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point in my life, I go, that is such a weak,

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relationships and things because people don't know how to communicate,

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doesn't mean it's going to happen, right, And that's where

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to be like genuinely honest with somebody. And there's a

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lot of salespeople in the world, wonderful salespeople, but salespeople

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are salespeople. And I will argue to the day I

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leave this planet that they can't turn it off. They're

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I really do. I think people who are great at sales,

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they just they're selling in their lives all the time.

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Make a fucking opinion. Here's what I'm starting to realize.

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Speaker 3: There used to be where people will go professional politicians.

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Speaker 2: Uh maybe, but I think that but most of it

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Speaker 3: Like voting politicians. But just in general, what.

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Speaker 2: I think for a lot of people is they don't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's off the top of my head

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Speaker 3: We've all done it.

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your giants. I don't know, I mean Jackson.

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Speaker 6: I told you, I told you, I told you it

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was coming. You know, there was there was no way

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he was going to last uh next year. So they

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just they cut the cord now and just said why

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even bother hanging around?

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Speaker 3: And it's over for four double digit four, double digit

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fourth quarter. Deficits that they gave up four double digit

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leads and they gave up in the fourth quarter this year.

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The odds of that happening to one team is one

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in sixty thousand.

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Speaker 7: I heard that.

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Speaker 4: Just.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the Giants in theory could be five and

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five if they if those games didn't go the way

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they did.

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Speaker 7: And that's why Daviel is no longer with us.

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Speaker 2: Do you uh Jackson dark concussion?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, out And that's part of the reason too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Dave's was just he was reckless with him.

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Speaker 6: He was encouraging him to take on and with the Giants,

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brass Is saying, they're telling Jackson to tone it down

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a little bit, like, don't take these guys on head on.

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Speaker 7: When you're running.

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Speaker 6: Running's fine, but you got a slide more and he

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like refused to slide. He wants to like go, you know,

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take on these middle linebackers. And that's why he's gonna

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next missed the next game and maybe after that.

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Speaker 3: They had the blue tent the entire state of New

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Jersey to keep him off the field.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 6: Oh, and then what came in. Russ came in and

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he is just fucking horrible. He is so bad, so washed,

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he should never step on a football field again, unless

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it's too volunteer to mow the grass at his hest

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at his kids high school football field.

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Speaker 3: It's very rare that a national pundit who's not known

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for like taking shots takes shots at a player. Scott

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fan Pelt, who may be one of the nicest guys

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in sports media, tweets out, mister limited.

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Speaker 2: Ah, that's funny because they don't like Russ.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Russ is like as a phony when the cameras

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are the guy's a phony and it's coming back to roost. Mean, well,

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there's James and Jameis Winston holding court in New Jersey

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today talking about I think he's gonna start a.

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Speaker 6: Yes, they announced that Mike Mike Kafkar already announced that

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Jamis is starting, which he's already making the right decisions

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right right off the bat, which is awesome. I mean,

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it just gives us some hope, some fun. It's gonna

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be fun having him out there slinging. He'll throw four

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touchdowns and three interceptions, but god damn, he'll make it fun.

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Speaker 3: You'll have a chance to win though.

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Speaker 2: Well, I's the Giants Packers, which was a Packers game

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was a snooze fan.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Jordan Love is as good as everybody

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says either. I don't either.

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Speaker 2: I never did.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why.

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Speaker 2: I just never really did. Uh, Juice, who do you

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like in some of these games? I mean, last week

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there was some surprising blowouts along the way, and.

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Speaker 7: We got we got smacked. I hit.

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Speaker 6: I know, we didn't do the picks out here, which

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I'm thankful for and nobody else.

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Speaker 7: Didn't cost anybody else money.

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Speaker 6: But I text Dan privately and told them what we

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were playing, and we lost every single one.

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Speaker 7: We got absolutely whack.

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Speaker 2: All right, you're not I can't win all of them,

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and that's part of the Actually, it.

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Speaker 6: Took ten weeks to have our first losing week, so

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I'm okay with that. And we went ten nine weeks,

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you know, in the in the black, and now we

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finally go red. So that's all right, no problem. But

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as I tell my friends, we're beat but not beaten.

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We're going to be back this week.

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Speaker 2: Okay, give me a We'll start with the Bucks and

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the Bills only because here's what's interesting about this. You've

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got two quarterbacks drafted in twenty eighteen who have taken

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very different journeys in the NFL. Josh Allen has been

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only in Buffalo. Hopefully he'll stay only in Buffalo. You

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have Baker Mayfield who went Cleveland and then from Cleveland

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to the Panthers, from the Panthers to the Rams, from

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the Rams to the Bucks.

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Speaker 3: Right, I think that's the trajectory.

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Speaker 2: That's like four teams in eight years. So it seems

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like a lot and he seems to have found a

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landing spot. I'm not so sure I'm sold on Baker

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Mayfield being an elite quarterback. He seems like a lot

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of times he has to hop up as he's throwing

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the ball to get it over the line. I don't

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know why. And he's not that little. It's just that

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he's six foot yeah, well that's five inches yeah, and

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uh but how do you but yet he has a

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will to win. There is a tenacity about this guy.

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I mean, you feel like you have him on your side,

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You've always got a shot in the game. So I'm

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not I'm not feeling great about this, to be quite honest,

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with the Bucks and the Bills.

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Speaker 6: No, I think what's gonna help the Bills. Unfortunately, is

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the loss. I don't see them losing two in a row.

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So Allen's gonna be hungry and they're gonna get this

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win on uh on Sunday. I just don't see them

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losing again. The weather is gonna be shitty, it's gonna

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be rainy. Uh So the Bills have got to run now. Also, unfortunately,

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Tampa's run defense is pretty good, so the Bills are

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gonna have to They're gonna have to grind this out.

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But overall, I think with the weather conditions, I think

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it's favors to Buffalo, and then I think the Buffalo

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will get the win.

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Speaker 2: And what is it?

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Speaker 6: I think five and a half. So I'm probably not

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staying away from that, or I am staying away from that.

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I look to maybe take the Bills live, you know,

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get it, maybe under a field goal or something.

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Speaker 3: But I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't like the I don't like five and a

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half points, all right, I don't either.

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Speaker 3: No, No, if I'm taking Tampa Bay in this one,

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to cover, yes, to cover, Okay, They're definitely not beating

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Houston the week after. I'm telling you that right now, Buffalo.

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But that's another story.

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Speaker 2: From well maybe I mean who knows they're not.

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Speaker 3: Going to Houston beating Houston on three days. No, they're not.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Chiefs Broncos.

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Speaker 7: Chiefs really Okay.

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Speaker 6: D and Reid go ahead off of bye huge the

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Broncos last Thursday against the Raiders. That was another snooze

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fest they were that was so bad they barely won

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that game. That game was fucking horrible. I think the

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Chiefs come in there.

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Speaker 7: And get right.

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Speaker 6: They're they're gonna they're gonna smack them around. I'm Chiefs

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minus four b. That's our first that's our first play

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Speaker 3: Usually quarterbacks take a step forward to their sophomore year. Yeah,

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he's actually like the regress his request. He does not

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look good. His decision making is it's like he's playing scared,

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like he doesn't want to tick off Sean Payton.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, Champ Payton night. I have not heard

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nice things about cham Payton in his personal life.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 6: I think I think the Chiefs know that that division

475
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is you know that in reach for them.

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Speaker 7: Uh, they haven't.

477
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Speaker 6: Played the Broncos yet, so they're gonna knock them off

478
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twice and get in. I think the Chargers are on

479
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the decline with their offensive line. So I still think

480
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the Chiefs went that division, and I think that run

481
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that they start starts on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: All right, Uh, Danny says the Texans are good. Give

483
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me something. They're good.

484
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Speaker 3: I say they're gonna beat the Bills because it's a

485
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Thursday night game. I didn't say they're good. They they

486
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shot their load like last week coming back against Jay.

487
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Speaker 2: Goodness. Uh, Texans, give me some locks of the week.

488
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What do you got game?

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Speaker 6: Speaking of Houston, we're gonna take them minus seven against

490
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the Tennessee Titans. Now the player is the league's best

491
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defense versus the league's worst offense, and I'm gonna go

492
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defense every time.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

494
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Speaker 7: Yes, David Mills is starting. C J.

495
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Speaker 6: Stroud is out, which you know gives me a little

496
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bit of pause. But I still don't see Tennessee doing

497
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anything in this game, and I think that Houston will

498
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do enough to cover. I mean, even if it's ten

499
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three or seventeen seven or something, it's gonna be low scoring,

500
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it's gonna be ugly, but Houston will win by seven

501
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or more points.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I like that. You know, what's another one?

503
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Speaker 6: He got another big game, which is actually potentially game

504
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of the game of the year.

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Speaker 7: So far.

506
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Speaker 6: You got the Rams versus the Seahawks.

507
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Speaker 7: Awesome game, Yes as well, Rams great.

508
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Speaker 3: Seattle is the sneakiest best team in the NFL, and

509
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the times are very close.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I got to remember who Seattle has at quarterback,

511
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and that's Sam Darnold and he has not really won

512
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a big game yet. This is a big game for him,

513
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and I just I've taken the Rams minus three in

514
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this all day. I just think, uh, well, he hasn't

515
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really had that game yet, and I think we're going

516
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to see that Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Well, that game at the end of the season last

518
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year when Minnesota went to Detroit on a Sunday night, right,

519
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and that was Sam Donold's like make or break game.

520
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If he wins that game, he's probably still the quarterback

521
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of the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he loses, Like I already out.

523
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Speaker 3: With the injured kid McCarthy. So now so he's in

524
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Seattle and uh yeah, he's all world.

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Speaker 2: They are looking good. I mean, it's unbelievable, man, I

526
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think they did they have how many points in the

527
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first quarter.

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Speaker 3: Like twenty eight? Yes, I thought it was had two

529
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defensive touchdowns trip Sacks. I thought it was twenty.

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Speaker 2: It's like I see it come across by phone. I'm

531
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not even turning it not I don't want to see that.

532
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But the Rams look so good the other night, and

533
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,319
that was a battle between the forty nine ers and

534
00:25:47,319 --> 00:25:52,000
the Rams. But the Rams look look good. And man,

535
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,759
who would have thought Stafford all those years in Detroit

536
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you looked at him and went yeah.

537
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Speaker 6: And I mean he is right now if you look,

538
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he's the VP odds favorite Matt Stafford is. So this

539
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is a huge game for him and it's this could

540
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put him if he wins this game. I think he's

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exactly at five hundred for his career wins and losses,

542
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and this game will put him over five hundred. Wow, Sunday,

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because he was on so many you wouldn't think that,

544
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but he was on so many.

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in Charlotte's called Puttery.

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Speaker 9: But it's very posh bar restaurants. It's very it's right

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Speaker 2: Very good. I like it. I like it, Uh, Peter,

588
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I I I can't wait to hear the thoughts of

589
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,799
the Buffalo Bills. I thought the offense looked inept. I

590
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:57,240
thought Josh Allen probably had one of his worst games ever.

591
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But at some points you go the receiving court, nobody's

592
00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:08,039
getting separation, and there's there is your problem. Josh pulled out.

593
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I mean that one play he went around and around

594
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and you're it's so exciting and any connects right, And

595
00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:19,319
who's the best receiver they have, Dalton Kincaid right now,

596
00:29:19,759 --> 00:29:23,160
I think it is. And then afterwards and maybe I'm

597
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jumping the gun here, but then it didn't come out afterwards.

598
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I happened to be in the studio here and then

599
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going to watch just the first half of the game

600
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while I drank ginger all I just want you to know,

601
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,640
oh yeah, oh yeah, uh huh. I know it's a

602
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:44,440
whole new me I'm watching. And it's the local CBS

603
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affiliate does a regional bills thing before CBS NFL today, Right,

604
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So they're talking, and they're talking very very enthusiastically that

605
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Brandon Bean had seemed to go all in on trying

606
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to get that receiver that we need, the missing piece

607
00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:07,359
that was the thing, and he seemed to go all in,

608
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and you know Bill's mafia, we want you. He hears you.

609
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He know they know they're thinking the same thing you're thinking.

610
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,799
They really wanted it, and it was who was a

611
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,160
Jaden Waddle Jayden Wattle. So they thought this was all

612
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,359
going to go down and you're hearing about it, and

613
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,119
then Waddle seems to scorch them a few times on

614
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,480
the field. But from what I'm understanding, and this is

615
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where people started going, well, then this guy needs to

616
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,920
be fired. Brandon Bean, they wanted a twenty twenty six

617
00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:38,599
first round draft pick and he said, no, I'll give

618
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,440
you twenty twenty seven. I don't know if that's true. Again,

619
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I always say to people, I go, I wasn't in

620
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the meeting. I don't know who knows, like somebody could be.

621
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Speaker 3: Exactly.

622
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Speaker 2: That's thank you, thank you, right, But so it gets

623
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out there, so now everybody's like, well, you're just wasting

624
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Josh Allen. And if this is true, why wouldn't you

625
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,960
try to win? Right now? You're off to a pretty

626
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,599
decent start at six and two, and here we go.

627
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,279
I don't know what. I'm sure both you and Danny

628
00:31:09,319 --> 00:31:12,319
have maybe seen more read more dug a little deeper

629
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into that story. I'm not sure I.

630
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 8: Haven't dug a little deeper into that if I can

631
00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:22,960
rewind for a second. Sure I watched Somebody All twenty two,

632
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,119
not all that because it's two frustrated, but I will

633
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,720
tell you that Josh Allen made some pretty big errors.

634
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah on Sunday.

635
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Speaker 8: Yeah, was wide open and he just overthrew him or

636
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,119
he underthrew them.

637
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Speaker 4: It was a sideline route with a touchdown.

638
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Speaker 8: Now, granted it was like Miami's fourth string cornerback, but

639
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he was still open. There was another play where Dawson

640
00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:52,200
Knox still open. Nothing in Josh Josh Allen's sideline at all.

641
00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:56,079
Knox was wide open. He was the first progression in

642
00:31:56,119 --> 00:31:59,400
the route. Yet he checks down to the fourth progression

643
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:06,200
and so Johnson I think it was Johnson Johnson. Uh no, yeah, no,

644
00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:09,839
not Ty Johnson, the other one. Yeah, even whoever was

645
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,440
still got fifteen yards on the play. But the question is,

646
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,079
why wouldn't you throw your first progression that would have

647
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given you fifteen yards in the air, not five yards

648
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in ten yards after catch.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what happened. I mean, I'm not in

650
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the film, not in their helmet.

651
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Speaker 8: But gracious, there's some things that are going on right

652
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now where no one knows, no one knows which way

653
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:34,960
is up, and it's it's really, it's really concerning. Throwing

654
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,599
into Tampa Bay game coming on the heuge of the

655
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great Kansas City outing, right, they looked like that.

656
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Speaker 2: Okay, I thought the Kansas City outing looked really good.

657
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I got nervous at the end of the game. Uh,

658
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but because of Kansas City. But I thought they overall

659
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looked pretty good. I did say to Danny before. I know,

660
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I'm sure you thought they had some awful moments in

661
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:56,960
that game, but I don't know. I thought they looked

662
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pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Well they did, yeah, but they also today all the

664
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way three times and only won by a touchdown at

665
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the end of that one. I mean, so it's like

666
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Kansas City, like on autopilot, could give the Bills at

667
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their best game, right, and then the Bills, Oh yeah,

668
00:33:11,799 --> 00:33:13,519
so we just beat the Chiefs so we can put

669
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:16,039
it on cruise control against Miami, right, and then Alan

670
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after the game that you know they wanted more than us,

671
00:33:19,319 --> 00:33:22,039
well why, I mean, their general managers just got fired.

672
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,039
There were guys that were rumored to be traded. Other

673
00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:26,960
guys did get traded. Your head coaches like, is the

674
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,559
walking dead right now? They call a time out before

675
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,319
the game even starts to dispute an off sides call,

676
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,839
and yeah, so they're starting the game with two timeouts

677
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in the first half and they can't even they can't

678
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even get it right.

679
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Speaker 8: Dissension based upon what. It's up for opinion, and it's

680
00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:50,519
up for discussion. But in the press conference on the

681
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back end of the game, when McDermott was asked, m

682
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,720
h your general manager said you have a championship roster?

683
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Speaker 4: Do you have a championship roster? Answer? I love these players.

684
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Speaker 3: Oh, when the head coach starts equivocating in a press conference,

685
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that is not an answer.

686
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 8: It I love these players, that's it, and that's it.

687
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He stopped short. He did pontificate, he died to coach speak,

688
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he stopped.

689
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Speaker 4: I love these players. End of answer.

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Speaker 8: So there's something going on inside when Bill's drive that

691
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:32,960
is penetrating this team's enthusiasm, their drive. I said weeks

692
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:39,880
ago after the Panthers game, intentionally watching the sideline during

693
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the game.

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Speaker 4: Forget about the game. It's forty to nine. Great.

695
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Speaker 8: I wanted to see how they acted on the sideline,

696
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and it gave me concern that and I even talked

697
00:34:49,519 --> 00:34:51,920
about it here on billifid gave me concern that week.

698
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There's no emotional leader, there's no one walking around the sideline.

699
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Your head coach doesn't go up to the offensive side

700
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of the bench. Ever, there's something that's going on within

701
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,400
that team right now. But I don't know if they

702
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,440
could find their way out of and everybody's talking about it.

703
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Speaker 4: They'renna make the playoffs. I don't know.

704
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know either.

705
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think we're at Jima playoffs point. And I said

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this three weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: You did.

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Speaker 8: We've been talking since everybody's we have been talking on

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this show for weeks. We've been pointing out the deficiencies.

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No one wants to listen until it happens.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 4: Oh, there it is. It's been there all year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it really did. I mean it looked ugly.

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Speaker 3: It looked I watched the game again last night. It

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was actually worse.

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Speaker 2: Why why I love it?

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 3: I got I gotta be prepared to come on the show.

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Speaker 2: No, I understand it, But you watched it. I mean

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you knew how bad it was. Yeah, I'm sure you

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read plenty of articles. I know you got a lot more.

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Speaker 8: You pick up a lot more when there's and and

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the second time you watch it in the middle of

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it being a fan, and then you watch it the

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second time you kind.

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Speaker 3: Of look built. They're predictable, they're unprepared. Yeah, like a

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Dulton kk ran on in the field. Okay, we're gonna

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run a pass play. Everyone knows it. When Dalton Kaka

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trots off the field and they bring to Jackson Haws, Okay,

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it's probably gonna be a run until they run that

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stupid trick play. We're gonna roll about, throw it fake

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and fake the fourth and one push push when the

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drive before he.

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Speaker 2: Had a fourth and one to thirty four.

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Speaker 3: You're like, yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, first they did do that.

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Speaker 3: I wish they did too. Okay, so now we're gonna

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go for it and and they give it up. And

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then Miami comes back down the field and scores, and

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Cole Bishop, who was a hero on the previous drive,

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all of a sudden gets a pushing out of pushing

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the kid out of bound. So that's another fifteen yards

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they get thirty yards on that plate. Next thing, you know,

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the balls in the air, touchdown, and we make too

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a look like a freaking hero because the defensive second,

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the secondary is just so banged up and so injured

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and so old.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, and and and even while I think mis Dawkins,

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he said, yeah, well they came out in base defense.

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If an NFL team that's two and seven comes out

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there playing base defense with three linebackers and not a

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nickel corner, they're saying, we're gonna stop your run. You

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can't beat us in the passing game. That's what that

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tells you, And that to me is alarming.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I will tell you what we're what we're doing

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with the podcast. All good stuff, all good stuff, all

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good stuff. So I want to rattle any feathers. But

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there will be uh more to come on all that

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stuff we're looking forward to in the near future. I

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love coming here, I love doing this.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate you, Dan Brillo, and I love when

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your head gets on. Just love it.

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Speaker 3: I know my wife goes, you don't really get mad

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over football, you just act like it to be funny.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think if you were actually in

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that front office. I think there would be like that's

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a good rule. I think you wouldn't sleep. I think

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you wouldn't sleep. I think you'd be there. We'd find you,

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like whether your fitbit going off at four am. O

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for Dan Brillo, for Juice Fields, Juice Fields for Peter Montemerno.

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I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you next week.

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Speaker 8: South.

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Speaker 3: It's California, baby, Things of God Worth is the land

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up opportunity for me to