WEBVTT 1 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:17.559 Seven oh five here at fifty five care CD talk station. 2 00:00:18.480 --> 00:00:22.199 Happy Friday, Eve to you. Pardon me that came out 3 00:00:22.199 --> 00:00:23.879 of nowhere. I have a cough button, couldn't get to 4 00:00:23.879 --> 00:00:26.280 it in time. But I am looking across the table 5 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:28.440 at a man that I truly appreciate it, man that 6 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:30.800 thankfully has too much time in his retirement because he's 7 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:33.840 got nothing better to do than be the Inspector General 8 00:00:33.920 --> 00:00:38.479 for the Generals Greater of the Cincinnati Residence, City of 9 00:00:38.479 --> 00:00:40.920 Sincinnia Residence. Welcome back to the fifty five care Morning 10 00:00:41.000 --> 00:00:45.119 Carose Morning Show, host of the Citizen Watchdog podcast Get 11 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:46.880 in Touch with It. Todd Zen's are good to have 12 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:47.240 you in. 13 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:48.799 Man, Thanks Brian, good to be here. 14 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:50.679 I'm glad it took the time to come in this studio. 15 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:52.439 It's great having you in and talking with you about 16 00:00:52.439 --> 00:00:57.840 all these things that you follow. So let us start. 17 00:00:57.880 --> 00:00:59.479 We were touch talking about this. Let's stick with the 18 00:00:59.479 --> 00:01:02.840 topic of i'm gun violence. Generally speaking, they had a 19 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:07.200 ryl Long city manager. She Chief Fiji was there yesterday. 20 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:09.359 The mayor was there. He didn't have a whole lot 21 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:11.680 to say, though from what I gathered from the reporting, 22 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:14.519 you can fill in the details on that, but apparently 23 00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:16.799 red bikes, So we're going to take the red bikes 24 00:01:16.799 --> 00:01:20.319 away from folks tomorrow and Saturday overnight. They did that 25 00:01:20.359 --> 00:01:23.560 over the fourth of July or Independence Day weekend. Apparently 26 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:27.200 it had some positive impact, or at least it suggested 27 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:30.439 or they suggested it did. So. I didn't realize bikes 28 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:32.920 and e scooters were really at the core of the 29 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:36.040 crime wave going on in the city Cincinnati, But I 30 00:01:36.079 --> 00:01:38.719 suppose when you're trying to come up with solutions, every 31 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:39.480 little bit counts. 32 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:41.920 That's right, every little bit counts. But they've got they've 33 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:43.079 got big, big problems. 34 00:01:43.239 --> 00:01:47.680 Well, they argued that violent crime and murders or gun 35 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:51.400 crime specifically were down, at least that's what was reported. 36 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:55.040 Well, it was what I took away from the news 37 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:59.719 conference was that, yeah, things are getting better, but they 38 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:02.879 have a perception problem that the public doesn't perceive that 39 00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:07.000 things are getting better. So they're really battling a bad 40 00:02:07.079 --> 00:02:09.680 perception rather than the bad data. 41 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:14.960 Well, you believe if you live in any of the 42 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:17.120 given neighborhoods in the city and you see it with 43 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:20.120 your own eyes, and it is widely reported that one 44 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:23.439 of the bigger problems we've got downtown? Are these roving 45 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:28.080 gangs of teenagers? I mean it's like cockroaches in the 46 00:02:28.120 --> 00:02:29.599 middle of the night. They all gather. As soon as 47 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:31.840 you turn the light on, these scurry and multiple different directions. 48 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:32.639 You can't get them. 49 00:02:33.039 --> 00:02:36.800 Yeah. Well, your friend Jim Kiefer raised a good point 50 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:39.120 yesterday when I was speaking with them about this Blue 51 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:42.520 Ash issue where you had these hundreds of kids up there. 52 00:02:42.719 --> 00:02:45.680 How do they get there? And what's the signal? How 53 00:02:45.719 --> 00:02:48.400 do they communicate with each other? To do everybody know 54 00:02:48.520 --> 00:02:49.360 to go to this one? 55 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:52.400 Look, now, the easy answer to that one is we 56 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:55.919 live in an internet society. Now. You know, the old days, 57 00:02:55.919 --> 00:02:57.479 if you wanted to get a whole bunch of people together, 58 00:02:57.520 --> 00:03:00.639 what did you print flyers up? You mailed things to people. 59 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:03.840 I mean there was no one stop shop for your 60 00:03:04.759 --> 00:03:07.599 causes website like we've got. Now, Hey, we're all going 61 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:09.719 to eat in Blue Ash and you know, shoot fireworks 62 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:12.199 for people just to be a nuisance. You know, you 63 00:03:12.240 --> 00:03:14.439 can have a house party in like five seconds. Now 64 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:17.080 you put it online, house party, It filling the black address. 65 00:03:17.080 --> 00:03:18.919 The next thing, you knowl four hundred people showed up. 66 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:22.400 Well, the other thing that I noted in the press 67 00:03:22.439 --> 00:03:26.800 conference was Cheryl Long finally did start talking about this 68 00:03:26.919 --> 00:03:30.159 program that they started back in January called AC for Sincy. 69 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:35.840 And the mayor was on Cincinnati edition last week and 70 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:38.759 never said a word about Act for Sincy. And it 71 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:44.280 was launched in January as a holistic approach to reducing 72 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:46.800 gun violence, and they never said anything about it. 73 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:51.560 Well, that doesn't make any sense, is that because of marketing, 74 00:03:51.639 --> 00:03:54.120 we need to have this new program because we have 75 00:03:54.159 --> 00:03:56.719 a problem with gun violence, which of course confirms what 76 00:03:56.840 --> 00:04:00.400 everybody out there in the real world suspects. Anyway, Well, 77 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:05.719 the marketing thing here, you know, the terrible murder of 78 00:04:05.759 --> 00:04:11.199 mister Herringer. Oh yeah, and the response from his widow 79 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:17.839 she summed it up in three words. It's optics over outcomes, right, 80 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:20.399 And a lot of the things that this city council 81 00:04:20.480 --> 00:04:24.199 and this mayor are doing are really for optics. And 82 00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:28.920 you can go through program after program, and they put 83 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:32.000 a little bit of money in all of these programs, 84 00:04:32.279 --> 00:04:34.720 and then when somebody says, what are you doing about this, 85 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:37.560 they say, we have a program for that. And even 86 00:04:37.600 --> 00:04:40.680 if they funded at like ten thousand or twenty five thousand. 87 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:43.240 You know, I was at a meeting in bond Hill 88 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:47.439 about connected communities with the Vice Mayor and Scottie Johnson, 89 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:51.040 and it was about how we can improve connected communities 90 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:55.480 if that's even possible. And somebody got up and said, well, 91 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:59.160 what about property taxes? Our property taxes are too high, 92 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:02.199 and the Vice mayor said, well, we have a program 93 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:04.920 for that. They have a Well, no, they don't. 94 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:07.399 Have a program. Their program is to help people pay 95 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:11.600 the Property Act property taxes that they owe in back 96 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:15.399 taxes their debt. That's what the city has a program for. 97 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:18.120 But not to address the broader problem of the property 98 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:21.000 taxes going through the root exactly, and people who have 99 00:05:21.079 --> 00:05:24.680 to pay them or otherwise end up perhaps losing their property. 100 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:27.480 They're on the hook for the money they paid it. 101 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:29.720 So there's no relief for the folks with higher property 102 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:31.920 tax bills. There's only relief for folks who didn't pay 103 00:05:31.959 --> 00:05:33.879 the property tax bills because they were too high. 104 00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:34.639 That's right. 105 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:38.319 Wow, Okay, so that's problem solved. 106 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:42.240 But optics over outcomes is it really sums up this 107 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:43.480 mayor in this city council. 108 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:47.000 But you can't cover up the fact that week after 109 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:49.560 week after week we have all this hoorific criminal activity 110 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:52.079 that's going on. I mean, even as little as local 111 00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:54.240 reporting we have, we do hear about it, we do 112 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:59.360 see it. So you can't hide behind you can't hide 113 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:02.279 the news from people. And then there's the other component. 114 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:05.720 You talked to Ken favor of us and say FOP president, 115 00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:10.040 and Ken will tell you that they know, like for example, 116 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:13.680 enforcing curfew. There is a curfew, Yes, but they don't 117 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:16.360 bother even dealing with it because they catch the teenager 118 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:19.040 who's violating curfew, they're not going to be dealt with 119 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:22.000 by the judicial component of the criminal justice system. The 120 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:24.199 judges will let them out. Happens all the time, so 121 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:26.319 much show that it's not even worth issuing a citation. 122 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:29.040 Well, there was a question. I couldn't hear it very well. 123 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:31.120 But I think one of the reporters yesterday at the 124 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:35.839 news conference was asking about twenty twenty Auburn, the juvenile 125 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:39.439 center or detention center whatever they call it, and that 126 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:42.800 the police were being turned away when they tried to 127 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:44.399 bring people up to twenty twenty. 128 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:48.160 Yes, so you know they have a capacity ken. Ken 129 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:49.800 said that specifically, Yeah. 130 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:52.240 They have a capacity issue there, So what do they 131 00:06:52.240 --> 00:06:52.800 do about it? 132 00:06:54.319 --> 00:06:58.160 That's a good question. Maybe there isn't a program for that. 133 00:06:57.639 --> 00:07:02.240 They need a program for that, another building, another place 134 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:03.079 to take I tell. 135 00:07:02.959 --> 00:07:06.279 You this, five million dollars they want to spend on 136 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:11.120 a day center for the homeless. That's controversial because there 137 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:14.680 are existing programs that think they could handle you know, 138 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:18.560 the requirement or the need. But the city, for some 139 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:22.040 other reason wants to spend five million on this building. 140 00:07:22.439 --> 00:07:26.439 Maybe they ought to turn the building into a detention center. 141 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:30.759 Well I like that idea. I mean, if there's not 142 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:33.040 room enough to deal with the folks that are violating 143 00:07:33.079 --> 00:07:34.839 the law, then you need a place to put them. 144 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:40.079 I mean I don't well, I question a prioritization. 145 00:07:39.560 --> 00:07:41.680 Right exactly, That's exactly right, Brian. 146 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:48.240 And without enforcement, without the penalty component. I say this 147 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:52.959 all the time. The criminal justice system, the deterrence element 148 00:07:53.160 --> 00:07:55.600 is one of the key principles on it. If you 149 00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:59.439 do something in violation of the law, there will be 150 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:02.920 con sequences. That's a message. It's not only to punish 151 00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:04.920 the person who was dominough to violate the law, but 152 00:08:04.959 --> 00:08:07.000 it's a message to every kid out there or everybody 153 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:09.680 else out there, this is what's going to happen to you, 154 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:11.680 and get rid of that, and it's like, well, wait 155 00:08:11.680 --> 00:08:14.800 a second, h nothing's going to happen to me, so 156 00:08:14.920 --> 00:08:16.519 why bother obeying the law? 157 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:21.160 That's right, this whole act for sincey, this holistic approach 158 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:25.160 to reducing gun violence. They had a three million dollar 159 00:08:25.279 --> 00:08:29.279 budget and it went to all of these nonprofits. And 160 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:34.080 that's what this is all about, external organizations. And there's 161 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:37.759 no way to measure whether anything they're doing has any 162 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:42.600 impact on reducing gun violence. But it's they give away 163 00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:43.360 all this money. 164 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:46.080 Well and they can say something like we have a 165 00:08:46.159 --> 00:08:49.279 program for that and we have already addressed that and 166 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:53.159 you know, but yeah, again, this is kind of like USAID. 167 00:08:53.799 --> 00:08:56.120 It's a local versus USA. The money goes out into 168 00:08:56.120 --> 00:08:58.200 the world, and you know, at least on a federal level, 169 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:00.840 tens of millions of dollars to on various programs around 170 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:04.320 the globe. 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I do have a possible shower of 219 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:15.120 thunderstorm showing up later this afternoon at some point, maybe 220 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:16.799 though eighty six of the high clear of a night 221 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:19.200 time to seventy it's going to be sunny hot NEMA tomorrow, 222 00:11:19.639 --> 00:11:22.440 Isolated rain in the afternoons, a possibility ninety for the 223 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:25.799 high muggy and seventy one overnight with clear skies, and 224 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:29.679 a high end ninety one on Saturday with a decent 225 00:11:29.919 --> 00:11:32.240 chance for rain. They say seventy one right now. Let's 226 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:33.519 get an update on traffic. 227 00:11:34.279 --> 00:11:36.600 From the u See Health Traffic Center. You See Health 228 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:40.960 has expert traumacare focusing on prevention, treating injuries, and supporting 229 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:44.200 long term recovery and rehabilitation. Learn more at you see 230 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:47.399 health dot com. Traffic is slow this morning, and I 231 00:11:47.480 --> 00:11:51.679 seventy five southbound between Ronald Reagan Highway and Paddock Road. 232 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:55.440 You're slow seventy five northbound between Buttermilk Pike and Twelfth Street, 233 00:11:55.480 --> 00:11:58.519 and there's a stall seventy five northbound at two seventy 234 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:01.399 five on the left shoulder. I'm Heather Pasco on fifty 235 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:03.000 five krc the talk. 236 00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:07.559 Station seven nineteen to fifty five KRCD Talk Station. Brian 237 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:11.039 Tommouth with Citizen Watchdog Todd Zenzer get his podcasts and 238 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:14.360 Watchdog and maybe you become friends of them on Facebook. 239 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:18.840 He's always pointing posting things related to maybe corruption, fraud, 240 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:22.799 ways to abuse, inaction, outright stupidity with regard to what 241 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:25.559 the city of Cincinnati's doing dealing with its relative or 242 00:12:25.639 --> 00:12:29.399 various rather challenges. We were talking about this Act for 243 00:12:29.679 --> 00:12:33.679 Sincy program to or a blueprint for violence production that 244 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:36.279 says on the cover of the materials achieving change together. 245 00:12:36.399 --> 00:12:39.080 This came out in January. You mentioned, without any fanfare, 246 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:42.720 without any formal notice, that here were implementing this program. 247 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:45.600 But as you just got done explaining, it funds a 248 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:48.919 bunch of non governmental organization outside groups who claim to 249 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:51.519 have the solution on various levels for the problem with 250 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:56.440 violence and the system or in err in the system. 251 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:00.519 What type of if you know, if any, what type 252 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:05.840 of vetting goes on before any given NGO accepts money 253 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:09.480 from the city to achieve their purported goal. There's got 254 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:12.399 to be some presentation to someone, Someone has to add 255 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:15.720 them to the limitless list of NGOs out there with 256 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:19.159 their hand hopefully in the cookie jar. So what process 257 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:22.279 do they go through to find out whether these proposals 258 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:25.600 are going to have any impact or effect and then 259 00:13:25.720 --> 00:13:29.200 get the award to the exclusion of other NGOs we 260 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:31.480 already know. There's no follow up on whether the programs 261 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:34.639 work after the money's awarded, but the lead up, how 262 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:36.200 do you get on the list of people with their 263 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:37.039 hand in the cookie jar. 264 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:42.919 Well, there's so many of these programs. I've counted so far, 265 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:47.279 over two hundred NGOs getting money or nonprofits or NGOs 266 00:13:47.320 --> 00:13:51.200 getting money from the city, ranging from you know, fifteen 267 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:54.559 hundred dollars to a quarter of a million dollars or 268 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:57.679 actually I think the highest I know of is like 269 00:13:57.720 --> 00:14:02.440 three hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. And there's there 270 00:14:02.480 --> 00:14:05.120 is a program or a process for what they call 271 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:09.879 leverage support, which is what many of these organizations they 272 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:12.840 make application for those moneies, and that's that's become an 273 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:16.320 annual thing and during budget season they all go down 274 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:19.919 in a congo line and request money from the city council. 275 00:14:19.679 --> 00:14:20.759 And not all of them get it. 276 00:14:21.039 --> 00:14:25.240 No, That's what's surprising is how many organizations apply for 277 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:26.519 this money they don't get it. 278 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:29.720 So see, that's always wanted to emphasize that because again 279 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:32.320 there's always a limitless number of people that want some 280 00:14:32.679 --> 00:14:35.120 money from government. Now the question is how do you 281 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:37.279 how do you weed through Let's say a thousand groups 282 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:40.519 show up and there's only you know, one hundred different 283 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:44.360 one hundred allocations that they have money for. High Who wins. 284 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:47.159 That's a good question. The city council. They pick winners 285 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:49.399 and losers when it comes to that. And the city 286 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:53.519 manager has an application process for at least leverage support 287 00:14:53.960 --> 00:14:59.000 and probably for all these others. And they tell they 288 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:02.879 tell the organization what they're looking for, for example, reducing 289 00:15:02.919 --> 00:15:06.039 gun violence, and all of a sudden, all these NGOs 290 00:15:06.279 --> 00:15:09.480 that before now we're worried about climate change or whatever, 291 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:13.559 are now worried about gun violence. And their proposals they 292 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:16.879 just switched some keywords in there about how their work 293 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:21.879 is going to reduce gun violence. Even the Art Academy, 294 00:15:21.919 --> 00:15:26.120 for example, they showed up many at many meetings requesting 295 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:29.120 money and they've been getting funding for years and years, 296 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:31.960 but the city council is going to cut them back. 297 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:35.679 And they made the case that their work at the 298 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:41.240 Art Academy contributes to a reduction of violence and they 299 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:44.200 believe that, and all these groups that are working in 300 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:46.879 this area think that if they do a good job 301 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:48.879 that violence will be reduced. 302 00:15:49.360 --> 00:15:52.240 Well, I suppose one could lean on the argument that, well, 303 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:54.919 if the kids here in an art class for two hours, 304 00:15:55.200 --> 00:15:58.320 then he can't be out committing crime. Air go it 305 00:15:58.399 --> 00:15:59.279 reduces crime. 306 00:15:59.399 --> 00:16:02.240 Yes, some kind of logic chain like that. 307 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:09.080 I'm sorry to laugh. This is so sad and pathetic. 308 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:10.919 This really doesn't call for laughter. 309 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:16.200 Yeah, the normal person or the regular Cincinnatian will have 310 00:16:16.279 --> 00:16:23.080 trouble connecting dance lessons to reducing violence. That's just not 311 00:16:23.799 --> 00:16:27.360 Most people can't connect that in their own minds. 312 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:33.679 No, but I think that's a logical and reasonable inability. Yes, 313 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:37.200 the connection isn't there. So how could people possibly connect 314 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:39.080 it unless they fall back on the argument that they 315 00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:41.480 just made well the kids in a dace lesson for 316 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:42.279 a couple hours. 317 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:45.559 Yeah. So, the way I looked at it, a lot 318 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:48.399 of these programs that they're funding, it seems more like 319 00:16:49.039 --> 00:16:54.080 we're trying to help the community kind of thrive or 320 00:16:54.159 --> 00:16:59.960 to live despite all the violence. These types of programs 321 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:01.879 help them, you know, survive. 322 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:05.480 They fuel the economic engine of the city by putting 323 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:09.240 dollars out there. Two organizations that maybe don't accomplish anything. 324 00:17:09.559 --> 00:17:12.839 At least the money's out there, and presumably those organizations 325 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:14.960 will spend it on something, even if it's just going 326 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:16.279 out to dinner at a restaurant. 327 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:19.400 That's right, that's that's the government, that's the city government 328 00:17:19.440 --> 00:17:19.759 we have. 329 00:17:20.279 --> 00:17:22.920 I think we've put hit the nail on the head, 330 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:24.880 which is exactly what Todd ends Aer done. It does 331 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:27.920 all the time. I understand we also have a pension problem. 332 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:30.279 Not as bad as Chicago and Illinois, but we got 333 00:17:30.279 --> 00:17:32.400 a pension problem. We're gonna talk about that with Todd. 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Storms are a 363 00:18:56.440 --> 00:18:59.839 possibility later today eighty six for the high it's gonna 364 00:18:59.880 --> 00:19:02.920 be clear and mild over night seventy to low ninety 365 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:05.559 hour high Tomorrow. It will be also be humid and 366 00:19:05.640 --> 00:19:10.240 a possible isolated shower in the afternoon, clear over. Friday 367 00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:12.559 night muddy as well, with a low seventy one and 368 00:19:13.480 --> 00:19:15.720 decent chance of rain on Saturday. They're saying, and it's 369 00:19:15.720 --> 00:19:17.200 going to go all the way up to ninety one 370 00:19:17.880 --> 00:19:20.160 seventy one degrees. Right now, it is time for traffic 371 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:21.559 from the. 372 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:24.279 U SEE Health Traffic Center. You see Health has expert 373 00:19:24.319 --> 00:19:28.400 traumacare focusing on prevention, treating injuries, and supporting long term 374 00:19:28.440 --> 00:19:32.440 recovery and rehabilitation. Learn more at you see health dot com. 375 00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:35.759 You're heavy in slow in pockets seventy five southbound between 376 00:19:35.799 --> 00:19:38.839 the Ronald Reagan Highway and Paddock Road. Also with the 377 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:41.400 stall seventy five northbound at two seventy five on the 378 00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:44.279 left shoulder, that will have you a little slow as well. 379 00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:48.240 I'm Heather Pasco on fifty five KRC is the talk station. 380 00:19:49.839 --> 00:19:52.920 It's seven twenty nine. Bright time was here with Todd 381 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:56.079 Sinzer and studio going over City of Cincinnati issues. So 382 00:19:56.720 --> 00:19:59.799 we whatever the gun violence and the violence and the 383 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:03.119 problem generally speaking in the proposal from the city which 384 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:06.119 basically are funding a bunch of outside non governmental organizations 385 00:20:06.200 --> 00:20:11.000 with zero to very little accountability. Let us move on 386 00:20:11.079 --> 00:20:13.079 over to another area that's been a real problem for 387 00:20:13.119 --> 00:20:18.279 a very long time since they's pension problems underfunded. Is 388 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:20.920 that a reasonable word to slap on the situation? 389 00:20:21.240 --> 00:20:22.319 Yes, very much so. 390 00:20:22.519 --> 00:20:24.440 And for how long has this been festering? 391 00:20:25.039 --> 00:20:30.359 Well, the pension liability was the subject of a civil complaint, 392 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:33.680 federal complaint back in twenty fifteen, and there was a 393 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:40.279 settlement that is now governing the pension liability and they 394 00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:44.039 are required by twenty forty five, so that the settlement 395 00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:47.079 gives them thirty years to get the thing up to 396 00:20:47.079 --> 00:20:51.079 one hundred percent. But the thing is it was settled 397 00:20:51.480 --> 00:20:55.160 in twenty fifteen, so ten years ago, and they look 398 00:20:55.200 --> 00:21:01.839 at the funding ratio, which is how much of the 399 00:21:01.960 --> 00:21:06.359 liability do they need do they need to fix by 400 00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:08.480 a certain date. So they're supposed to be one hundred 401 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:12.440