Speaker 1: It's Brigan Charles Marino, former Homeland Security Department advisor and
Speaker 1: CEO of Sentinel Security Solutions, So thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1: A lot of praise here for law enforcement that stopped
Speaker 1: this from getting too far underway, a very ambitious alleged
Speaker 1: plot in this case. Your thoughts on how they were
Speaker 1: able to disrupt something for an individual that her people
Speaker 1: closest to, her friends and roommates talked about how disturbed
Speaker 1: she seemed as a person.
Speaker 2: Your thoughts, Yeah, Molly. Historically, law enforcement pays attention to
Speaker 2: radicalization that occurs online, as was the case reported here,
Speaker 2: and also foreign travel to special interest locations originating from
Speaker 2: the United States. Unfortunately, we've got the perfect storm now
Speaker 2: here in the United States when it comes to this issue,
Speaker 2: in large part because of the policies of the Biden administration,
Speaker 2: who now allowed all of these threats from around the
Speaker 2: world to come into the United States. So the point
Speaker 2: being that where you have radicalization occurring online, the travel
Speaker 2: piece is no longer required because it's now present within
Speaker 2: our own borders. We see it through communities that are
Speaker 2: allowed to segregate themselves, primarily in sanctuary states and cities
Speaker 2: with no desires to ever assimilate or adapt our culture
Speaker 2: or values here in the United States, and in many
Speaker 2: cases in outright disdain for everything that the United States represents.
Speaker 2: We see a separate code of laws. We know that
Speaker 2: there's communities here that are practicing Sharia law, for example.
Speaker 2: And radicalization occurs when you see it out on the streets,
Speaker 2: marching up and down Fifth Avenue, voicing support to tourist organizations,
Speaker 2: whether it's ISIS, al Qaeda, has Blahamas. The list goes on. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in this particular case, Jessica Bowie was an American
Speaker 1: citizen growing up in New York and talk to about
Speaker 1: being making big changes in her life just fromin the
Speaker 1: last five years. And as you mentioned the radicalization and
Speaker 1: the FBI alleging that this occurred via the computer and online.
Speaker 1: I want to take a quick listen to this. This
Speaker 1: is the FBI talking about just how significant Bowie's plot was,
Speaker 1: how broad it was. Take a listen.
Speaker 3: Miss Bowie didn't just want to kill lawmakers. She wanted
Speaker 3: a complete disruption of our government. And after that she
Speaker 3: planned to flee the country and one day come back
Speaker 3: to quote do more. Such as New Year's Eve in
Speaker 3: Times Square, even stating she would come back to attack
Speaker 3: the White House and the President, but only after she
Speaker 3: bombed the state capital.
Speaker 1: Really broad goals here, disturbing goals here alleged by the FBI,
Speaker 1: and that she was in touch with confidential informants, isis handlers,
Speaker 1: that she had literally gone to a home depot, that
Speaker 1: she had bought bombing supplies, and actually taken steps towards
Speaker 1: some of these goals according to law enforcement, according to
Speaker 1: the FBI, so do you think that this is something
Speaker 1: that had not been disrupted, could have actually come to pass.
Speaker 2: Well. The concern is when something goes into the operational phase,
Speaker 2: the radicalization on the front end usually serves as the motivation,
Speaker 2: the adherence to these radical ideologies, whatever they may attach to.
Speaker 2: And then going into the operational phase where you start
Speaker 2: to reach out, you start to seek funding, you start
Speaker 2: to seek materials, and the FBI, as we can see here,
Speaker 2: is very good at paying attention to this and infiltrating
Speaker 2: themselves into these plans early in the process, while continuing
Speaker 2: to let these individuals believe that they are furthering their
Speaker 2: attempts to do damage to either the political institutions, critical infrastructure,
Speaker 2: the targets may vary, but the point being, we have
Speaker 2: a lot of concerns here in the country right now,
Speaker 2: and the policies of the Biden administration put law enforcement
Speaker 2: and intelligence agencies at a significant disadvantage. It's always been
Speaker 2: looking for a needle in the haystack, and thanks to
Speaker 2: the Biden administration, the haystack's never been as large as
Speaker 2: it is today.
Speaker 1: There's some new reporting from The New York Post talking
Speaker 1: to those who I mentioned who were close to her
Speaker 1: roommates that had seen disturbing behavior and it actually tried
Speaker 1: to flag law enforcement on that issue. Here's a quote
Speaker 1: from one of the roommates. She says, I was sitting
Speaker 1: on them in the living room area. I was on
Speaker 1: the phone with my boyfriend, and she walks past me
Speaker 1: and says, I'll bomb this whole place down. Terrified by
Speaker 1: the threat, she said, she immediately called the city police
Speaker 1: and claims she was told that the issue was a
Speaker 1: he said she said, and that they were unable to
Speaker 1: take action in this particular case. So roommates, according to
Speaker 1: the New York Post, had tried to draw in law
Speaker 1: enforcement and kind of explain that this individual was making
Speaker 1: threats and acting strangely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was part of the team at
Speaker 2: the Department of Homeland Security that expanded to see something
Speaker 2: say something programmed, And what it was is it's to
Speaker 2: allow American citizens to report things like this and for
Speaker 2: law enforcement to make the decision. Now, you hope every
Speaker 2: time law enforcement is going to make the right call
Speaker 2: on this, as opposed to saying it's a he said,
Speaker 2: she said, Listen to the threats, communicate those threats to
Speaker 2: federal authorities if warranted, investigation further at the state and
Speaker 2: local level, whatever it may be. But in this day
Speaker 2: and age, these types of threats cannot go not acted upon.
Speaker 2: They need to be looked at, they need to be explored,
Speaker 2: and they need to see what the viability is of
Speaker 2: these threats. Continuing on, so the program is still very important.
Speaker 2: The American people need to be active in their own
Speaker 2: safety and security each and every day, and law enforcement
Speaker 2: needs to be on the right side of that. And
Speaker 2: stay and locals is where it all starts, all right.
Speaker 1: Charles Marino, thank you very much. We greatly appreciate your
Speaker 1: insights in joining us on this Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Thanks Molly.
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