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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, everybody, Welcome to I on the Ball here
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Speaker 2: No kids today, so we could screw up this big time.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe not. Jay's behind the wheel, so let's see
Speaker 2: when we get there.
Speaker 3: I'm already messing it up, Steve.
Speaker 2: That's okay. Oh you don't have you You couldn't hear it?
Speaker 3: I can, I can't hear you.
Speaker 2: Goodness, Okay, Hey, welcome everybody to Thursday. Right is this Thursday?
Speaker 3: Yes, Thursday.
Speaker 2: It's gone by quick, but I won't chinse it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: any calls we could take him a five two o
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Speaker 2: another game. We were not at the that the press
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Speaker 2: at this show, good show today though we have we
Speaker 2: have hod Rabino from an issue. See what's going on
Speaker 2: up there? They get all giddy because they.
Speaker 4: Went on Yes see if they're all giddy over having
Speaker 4: beaten apparently Wyoming.
Speaker 2: Apparently they are because the coach Dillingham was pretty upset
Speaker 2: about his team's practice yesterday because they were all, you know,
Speaker 2: we're here full of themselves, we've arrived, and he got
Speaker 2: on them because that's what they thought. We'll talk to
Speaker 2: Hode about that and more. Obviously they pay a step
Speaker 2: up in competition.
Speaker 4: Right, they've got Mississippi State, which you know, it's funny
Speaker 4: the parallels here, right, because it's it's it's it's Dillingham
Speaker 4: second year, had a bad year last year.
Speaker 3: They're trying to make some progress.
Speaker 4: You know Arizona in the in jetfish the second year, Right,
Speaker 4: they went up to San Diego State won a game
Speaker 4: on the road that you kind of didn't think that
Speaker 4: they were gonna win, and then they did, like all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, the world going, whoa what do we got?
Speaker 4: And then they ended up they had to play Mississippi
Speaker 4: State at their place. Yeah, well, now he's got Missisippi State.
Speaker 4: I think they're coming into a su It's just this parallel. Okay,
Speaker 4: let's see what you do against Mississippi State and are
Speaker 4: you guys really on your way to something? Are you know, well,
Speaker 4: what's happening over there? So we'll see, we'll see how
Speaker 4: they're they're taking this.
Speaker 2: So far, right, so we'll see you about that. And
Speaker 2: then at four seventeen, the NFL season starts today. So
Speaker 2: we were trying to find an NFL guy, and Marquise Flowers,
Speaker 2: who's been on the show before, said yeah, i'll talk.
Speaker 2: I'll talk with you guys, no problem. So you know,
Speaker 2: former U of A guy, former Cincinnati Bengal. I don't
Speaker 2: know if he's played anymore after that with Bengals, but
Speaker 2: still a relatively young dude. Right, it got to be
Speaker 2: about thirty ish, maybe party more than that. I'll probably
Speaker 2: thirty fourish because he was under the ritual guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he played his last year was rich was twenty.
Speaker 2: Fourteen thirteen Okay, so yeah.
Speaker 3: Thirteen because he's had that pick in the and the
Speaker 3: New Mexico Bowl.
Speaker 2: He's about thirty three.
Speaker 3: Issues, probably yeah, yeah, that's ten years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, you.
Speaker 3: Know, thirty.
Speaker 5: Three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's really good. He's only he's pretty active
Speaker 2: and so fun and he's fun. Yeah, he's fun. So
Speaker 2: that's a good show owner. We can screw that up.
Speaker 2: So he's excited about that to come back on the show.
Speaker 2: But us people were saying, you were on something yesterday,
Speaker 2: you were a little you're a little giddy salt salt.
Speaker 3: Well, well, the Saturday game.
Speaker 4: You know, I hadn't had a chance to okay, talk
Speaker 4: about it, talk about it.
Speaker 3: I mean I'm talking. Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 4: I did talk about it with a lot of people, right,
Speaker 4: friends and fans and stuff like that. People that I
Speaker 4: ran into hadn't been on the show to get all
Speaker 4: the stuff that had built up over over four days
Speaker 4: since the game.
Speaker 2: Was was your your verbiage or your explanation a lot
Speaker 2: like theirs?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, here's well no, because Steve, like I mentioned,
Speaker 4: you know, some you know, some people were trying to
Speaker 4: tell me that in New Mexico State isn't a bad
Speaker 4: team and I'm like, stop telling me that. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: So and I don't know, maybe I got fired. I was,
Speaker 4: I was, I was I seemed or was fired up
Speaker 4: just because it was my first day on the show.
Speaker 4: Since the ball game, I'm not worked up about the
Speaker 4: game or what happened. I mean, what happened happened. They won,
Speaker 4: They won handily. I didn't like how many points they
Speaker 4: gave up. They put sixty points on the board. I
Speaker 4: mean the team act showed that he not only might
Speaker 4: be the best receiver in college football, he might be
Speaker 4: the best player in college football.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, now again he did that.
Speaker 4: Against New Mexico, and if he does it again against
Speaker 4: an a U, people are going to say, well, he
Speaker 4: did it against a let's see why.
Speaker 3: How you look at Kansas State? So there's more to
Speaker 3: find out.
Speaker 4: But Arizona's play teams like New Mexico before and players
Speaker 4: haven't done that, you know they you know, he was
Speaker 4: what a couple of yards short of the big twelve
Speaker 4: receiving yards.
Speaker 3: In the game.
Speaker 4: Well, those records were also set when those teams played
Speaker 4: teams like New Mexico.
Speaker 2: Right, So it's what he did was special, right Okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: no question. Well we'll set those guys straight this weekend. Well,
Speaker 2: we won't set them straight because they're playing in.
Speaker 4: We're not going to know a whole lot more about
Speaker 4: Arizona after this weekend than we did after last week.
Speaker 2: You may not even know fourth week and fourth weekend
Speaker 2: unless lose, No, not, they lose, Okay, don't tell me
Speaker 2: that before.
Speaker 4: Unless Nau comes out and puts thirty points on the board,
Speaker 4: then you go, wait a minute, you got a defense
Speaker 4: that yeah, yeah, first can't that can't. Can't keep bad
Speaker 4: teams from school.
Speaker 2: First time is the mistake, second times the habit, and
Speaker 2: here we go, here we go. Yeah, yeah, no, even
Speaker 2: even if after the third game, the Kansas State game, Okay,
Speaker 2: it depends on how we go, and then the fourth game,
Speaker 2: then you have a good samples ize of right, okay,
Speaker 2: what team do we see?
Speaker 4: But you know, but if if any of you comes
Speaker 4: comes down and moves the ball up and down the
Speaker 4: field on Arizona on Saturday, you think, okay, you know,
Speaker 4: this is a ritrot team.
Speaker 3: It's gonna have to score fifty points to win games.
Speaker 2: And then you're thinking, what the hell is a Quena
Speaker 2: thinking or doing or what's he doing? Yeah, because this
Speaker 2: is not a Keena. This is not a keen of
Speaker 2: type team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think one of the things that I'm that
Speaker 4: the way I'm taking it is kind of okay.
Speaker 3: A Quina.
Speaker 4: They went into season, they worked all summer on a
Speaker 4: way that they're gonna play defense, and that way wasn't
Speaker 4: a good way to play defense against New Mexico. Right,
Speaker 4: they walked on the field and said, we're gonna do
Speaker 4: what we do, okay, and they were doing what they
Speaker 4: were doing, and unfortunately for Arizona, what New Mexico did
Speaker 4: was a really good way to offset what Arizona does
Speaker 4: because they didn't contain quarterback ran all over the place.
Speaker 4: They had this one receiver who was just making you know,
Speaker 4: they weren't getting a lot of yards after catch, but
Speaker 4: they were, but fifteen seemed like it was wide open
Speaker 4: all night. And he also made a couple of great
Speaker 4: catches in traffic.
Speaker 3: So you know, we'll see. We don't know. I think
Speaker 3: I think we.
Speaker 4: Know that the offense is going to be pretty damn
Speaker 4: good because Fafeda not only did.
Speaker 3: Not only was he affected, but he just looked in charge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he's and he's done that since the first
Speaker 2: time he stepped on the field. Yeah, the guy's played
Speaker 2: hard for him.
Speaker 4: When I think we still don't know a lot of
Speaker 4: things about the running game.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: They didn't run the ball well in the first half,
Speaker 4: but they did in the second hand.
Speaker 2: Right, And they didn't do it often enough in the
Speaker 2: first half, right because because was.
Speaker 4: Getting you know, you know, I was talking to somebody
Speaker 4: about it and they were saying that whole thing of well,
Speaker 4: you know, he just threw the ball to one guy. Well, yeah,
Speaker 4: that because that one guy was open all night long.
Speaker 2: And I think I think that's overstated, over analyzed by
Speaker 2: people who don't know because one he went to him
Speaker 2: a lot last year. Because they know each other, right,
Speaker 2: they trust each other, or at least know what trusts him.
Speaker 2: Oh do we go off, We're good? Uh? NOA trusts him?
Speaker 2: And why wouldn't you write if you have the number
Speaker 2: one target in the country, I guess where you go, right,
Speaker 2: And it's their job to stop, all right.
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna say, if every game, if every game
Speaker 4: t MAC is open all night and throwing the ball
Speaker 4: all night, what are you trying to do?
Speaker 3: Win the game?
Speaker 2: Win the game?
Speaker 4: And if the game, you know, and if the other
Speaker 4: receivers don't like it, because well they better like it
Speaker 4: if they're winning.
Speaker 2: Games, right, right, Well, there's there's always a charge get
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 4: I think there was only one one time that I
Speaker 4: thought the feet of forced it, but and it was
Speaker 4: it was a fade pattern, uh in the end zone
Speaker 4: where but that was that play was decided, you're going
Speaker 4: to throw the ball into the corner and see if
Speaker 4: you and let him try go get it. So you know,
Speaker 4: he didn't really you know, he took the snap and
Speaker 4: he threw the ball up and the you know, into
Speaker 4: the corner of the end zone and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: that was predetermined that he was going to throw the ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I don't disagree with you. What was
Speaker 2: he for the for the game? I don't even know
Speaker 2: his stats off the top of my head, but he
Speaker 2: had obviously a good night.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was very effective, you know, I mean he
Speaker 4: was just look, if you're if there's if you're complaining
Speaker 4: in some shape or form about the offense, then you
Speaker 4: need to go get under a rock or something, because
Speaker 4: you know, because the offense was as you would hope
Speaker 4: it would be, and and they did it put sixty
Speaker 4: one points on the board.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you if you go into it, you're
Speaker 3: going into the game.
Speaker 4: If you say Okay, if they put sixty some points
Speaker 4: on the board, I'm happy. And then they do and
Speaker 4: they say, well, I'm not really happy. Well, then you
Speaker 4: got a problem.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: The problem is you, not not them. He was Uh,
Speaker 3: let me see, he was twenty four forty two. Twenty
Speaker 3: four forty two. Yeah, twenty four four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's eighteen.
Speaker 3: That's that was them. I'm sorry, my bad. Nineteen of
Speaker 3: thirty one.
Speaker 2: Which is very good. It's about sixty five percent. Yeah,
Speaker 2: sixty five percent.
Speaker 3: He was seventy percent thrower last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the throwers weren't were The throwers were not
Speaker 2: rinking dink ones. They were they were down the field.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, you only threw, You only threw thirty one.
Speaker 4: You only completed nineteen passes for four hunder and twenty
Speaker 4: two yards.
Speaker 2: Well, nineteen thirty's nineteen.
Speaker 4: Thirty two, nineteen thirty one was the completed nineteen passes,
Speaker 4: and he threw for four hundred twenty so you average
Speaker 4: twenty two twenty two yards per completion.
Speaker 3: That's pretty efficient.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And guess what happened at the end of
Speaker 2: the day. They won.
Speaker 3: They won the game, and they won handle.
Speaker 2: And they didn't cover because are you.
Speaker 3: I'll take that. I like that. I did that. That's
Speaker 3: on me.
Speaker 2: We're all gonna have to rally around each other and say,
Speaker 2: Jay stop, put that wallet down, keep your credit card
Speaker 2: because you're screwing.
Speaker 3: With us and that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you almost are happy.
Speaker 3: Bot I had no step because I wanted to win that.
Speaker 4: So just you know, it's just I was getting ready
Speaker 4: ahead to the game, and I thought, you know, and
Speaker 4: I got caught up.
Speaker 3: Okay, I got caught up in.
Speaker 4: The tailgate atmosphere, and I said, they're gonna you know,
Speaker 4: they're gonna kill them, and and you know, I was
Speaker 4: very unhappy about that.
Speaker 2: So when they were down, when they were down twenty
Speaker 2: four twenty seven seventeen, twenty one seventeen, something like that,
Speaker 2: whatever what they were down twenty twenty four seventeen, What
Speaker 2: are you thinking? Who are you thinking?
Speaker 4: All I was thinking was they're not going to cover.
Speaker 4: I wasn't thinking they were to lose. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 4: now did I did? I you know, you know, you
Speaker 4: have some relief when they scored that long touchdown right before.
Speaker 3: The half and all that.
Speaker 4: Sure, but I think they were down twenty twenty four
Speaker 4: to twenty or whatever. I can tell you what it was,
Speaker 4: because I had the thing right up here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they were down. They were down twenty four
Speaker 3: to twenty.
Speaker 4: Then they scored that touchdown to make it twenty four
Speaker 4: to seventeen or twenty seven twenty four.
Speaker 3: Oh no, they kicked a field goal at the end
Speaker 3: to make it twenty seven twenty. Yeah, they're down twenty
Speaker 3: four seventeen.
Speaker 4: Hit the touchdown the four minutes left, they went and
Speaker 4: got a field goal to take the lead a half deck.
Speaker 4: I wasn't like, oh God, what they're gonna lose, because
Speaker 4: I just didn't think Mexico could beat them, and so
Speaker 4: I was. I was mad at halftime. I had angry
Speaker 4: nachos because I knew they weren't going to cover. Because
Speaker 4: I was going the math, I'm like, okay, they've got
Speaker 4: a lot. Twenty four points, they got a score, well
Speaker 4: fifty five points to cover, and I don't know that
Speaker 4: they're gonna get it.
Speaker 2: The only chance they had was when they had fumble.
Speaker 2: The fumble or the the interception or incomplete past fumble,
Speaker 2: somebody picked it up and ran it in right and
Speaker 2: you're thinking, oh now.
Speaker 4: They put one on the board in that time. You
Speaker 4: know when that got called back and they don't have.
Speaker 2: There wasn't enough to get time, and circumstances was not good.
Speaker 2: So that's fine. I mean, they played well enough to win,
Speaker 2: and they did it in a nice fashion. Now again
Speaker 2: another chance on Saturday, and then we'll see what happens
Speaker 2: on the Kansas City and then Utah.
Speaker 4: You know, one of the good things that came out
Speaker 4: of it, because look, you and I know that media
Speaker 4: attention or media opinion on stuff like this has an
Speaker 4: impact on rankings. And sure no I heard nobody saying
Speaker 4: New Mexico put up a fight. All I heard about
Speaker 4: the game was looking what team act did?
Speaker 3: Yeah right, we got.
Speaker 4: All these players of the week National Players of the
Speaker 4: Week on the the podcast. I listened to it with
Speaker 4: Wetzel of Pat forty and Ross Dollander. One of them
Speaker 4: gave him a play of the week, you know, because
Speaker 4: they said the team, you know, got three hundred plus
Speaker 4: yards in their in their first game in the Big Twelve,
Speaker 4: a receiver nearly broke the Big Twelve single game receiving record. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so that's what people were talking about it, and nobody
Speaker 4: was saying, oh, look at the number of points in
Speaker 4: New Mexico put up on.
Speaker 2: A right, So that's a good thing there. And also
Speaker 2: it was it was one o'clock. It was two o'clock
Speaker 2: thirty in the East coast. Yeah, one one thirty Central
Speaker 2: time or whatever it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so helps that help.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that it was fun. It was lipstick
Speaker 2: on a pig.
Speaker 4: They got to win, you know, some they moved up
Speaker 4: in the rankings a little bit because other teams lost,
Speaker 4: and you just you know, you go beat NAU and
Speaker 4: do it handily. Don't don't let guys like me be
Speaker 4: worried about what you're gonna look like.
Speaker 3: Against Kansas State. Just take care of business. Do it. Well.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to allow them. I am going
Speaker 3: to allow them two touchdowns to okay, okay, because.
Speaker 4: Apparently I you know, like they did against against the couple,
Speaker 4: They're gonna throw the ball all over the field because
Speaker 4: that's the only way you can Well.
Speaker 3: You know, you're not going to run the ball down Arizona's.
Speaker 2: Throat, and we'll see how Arizona.
Speaker 4: You know, they may get a couple of drives to
Speaker 4: score a couple of touchdowns, but if they get any
Speaker 4: more than that, I think you start to question what
Speaker 4: they're doing.
Speaker 3: Defensively.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we got to go. We're going to have
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Speaker 1: the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Box
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to the ball here on Fox Sports
Speaker 2: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's chickens away now on
Speaker 2: the phone. We have hoed Rabino from Devil's Digest. Hold
Speaker 2: how you doing.
Speaker 5: I'm doing great, guys, thank for having me great.
Speaker 2: Don't tell me you were out strutting your stuff on
Speaker 2: Tuesday or Wednesday, acting like you were your fancy pants
Speaker 2: like the football team.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think it was. It was definitely
Speaker 5: a humbling lesson how not to handle success. You did
Speaker 5: come out flat for most of Tuesday's practice. Head coach
Speaker 5: Kenny Dillingham admitted that also the scheduling of the team
Speaker 5: left the day or two before might have contributed that
Speaker 5: a little too, So that's something they're going to fix forward.
Speaker 5: But I think the more urgency to remedy was to
Speaker 5: really have the team not be cocky, just confident, because yes,
Speaker 5: they played a great game, Yes they played a Wyoming
Speaker 5: team that won nine games last year, but it definitely
Speaker 5: needs to put into the put in perspective because Mississippi
Speaker 5: State this week is gonna be a whole different story.
Speaker 3: Aside from the score.
Speaker 4: Was there anything that you saw that surprised you Saturday night,
Speaker 4: you know, on the field or just the way things ran.
Speaker 5: I guess it was really surprised by seeing the defense
Speaker 5: being so dominant, not not only scoring two defensive touchdowns,
Speaker 5: but also being in Wyoming, I believe it was like
Speaker 5: under one hundred and thirty yards of total offense. That's
Speaker 5: something we've seen all throughout full camp. I mean, there
Speaker 5: were many more sessions where the defense was dominating the
Speaker 5: offense and not vice versa. So the defense being the
Speaker 5: tip of the spear of such a great performance not
Speaker 5: shock me at all. I also think I wasn't surprised
Speaker 5: by the running game collecting to forty one yards. We
Speaker 5: all knew coming into the season this is the obvious
Speaker 5: strength of the offense, and sure enough, that's how it
Speaker 5: manifested the Saturday night. I can't say that I was
Speaker 5: surprised by the passing game. I think the ASU coaches
Speaker 5: didn't want to put too much on Sam Levitt's play,
Speaker 5: being a retrot freshman starting a sportsover game in MP
Speaker 5: and really with that ground attack, there's no reason to
Speaker 5: overtax your quarterback, so him him attempting this twenty two
Speaker 5: passing wasn't really a big surprise. Maybe special teams not
Speaker 5: so much surprise, but somewhat disappointing that field goal attempts
Speaker 5: from eight and forty three yards were not converted. You
Speaker 5: hope that's an indiration and not assigned things, assigned things
Speaker 5: to come. Because it's a big level of anything like
Speaker 5: it was last year, There's going to be a lot
Speaker 5: of one score games. So special teams, specifically field goal
Speaker 5: kicking for a new you is an aspect that really
Speaker 5: needs to be more consistent.
Speaker 2: And successful in So before the season started, what did
Speaker 2: you realistically think about this team? UH progressed progression in
Speaker 2: the second year, and a lot of people in the
Speaker 2: Big Twelve don't think highly of them.
Speaker 4: And has and well and as you're you know, in
Speaker 4: one game, how does your opinion changed?
Speaker 5: Yeah, my bindon really hasn't changed. I think as you
Speaker 5: is able to win six games this year, do somethings
Speaker 5: have to break their way? Sure, I'll be the first
Speaker 5: one to admit that, but but I felt that this
Speaker 5: this is a team that they can be Bowl eligible.
Speaker 5: I think the schedule in September is somewhat easier than
Speaker 5: than October November. So if you can continue to win
Speaker 5: UH this this month, then I think that again those
Speaker 5: six wins is not going to be that unachievable defeat.
Speaker 5: Like I guess most of the Big Twelve media was
Speaker 5: was thinking, and look, I mean, I'm not here to
Speaker 5: you know, criticize my nunoplots in the conference that I
Speaker 5: barely know anything about. But on the flip side, a
Speaker 5: lot of those VENIA members barely know anything about as U.
Speaker 5: And I think with the success that Arizona and Utah
Speaker 5: had last year, it is probably easy for them to
Speaker 5: pick them higher up in the standings. You know, maybe
Speaker 5: they're buying into somewhat of the height of Dean Sanders
Speaker 5: and Boulders. You know, didn't pick them to finish in
Speaker 5: the upperhssion, I'll still picked them pretty high. So I
Speaker 5: think with Arizona State, there was this school that they
Speaker 5: don't know much about. They so back to back three
Speaker 5: win seasons and that's why they picked them last. But
Speaker 5: I think Arizona they and not that some you know,
Speaker 5: like mister week one overreaction can definitely defy that last
Speaker 5: place finish expectations set by the Big twelve media.
Speaker 2: Can you sense that Dillingham has kind of maybe found
Speaker 2: some footing, not just as a coach, but as a
Speaker 2: as a as a guy, as a person that's you know,
Speaker 2: two years into it, more confident or whatever word you
Speaker 2: want to use.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that you do see the team buy
Speaker 5: in more to the culture that that Dealing am is
Speaker 5: trying to establish. I think you see a very evident
Speaker 5: talent elevation across the board, and that speaks to the
Speaker 5: effective recruiting efforts by dealing Ham and by his staff
Speaker 5: that whatever the selling they're having, now new players, but
Speaker 5: good players are really buying. So yes, I think you've
Speaker 5: seen the progression from year one to year two. You know,
Speaker 5: even though nobody expected the ridiculous raps of injuries that
Speaker 5: as you had last year, especially a quarterback and an
Speaker 5: offensive line, I think on the same broken people were
Speaker 5: not expecting ASU to come on the gates and Dealings
Speaker 5: first year and start, you know, keep kicking bucks and
Speaker 5: then taking names. But I think the progression in year two,
Speaker 5: at least before we saw the preseason in week one,
Speaker 5: I think things definitely progressing in the right direction. Kenny Dealing,
Speaker 5: he will be the first time to tell you that, Look,
Speaker 5: I mean we can talk about a better culture established,
Speaker 5: more players buying into the culture, having a better talent
Speaker 5: well that we did in twenty twenty three, but ultimately
Speaker 5: it does have to show in the win column. So
Speaker 5: you know, we'll say everything does progress as a season
Speaker 5: common well season progresses, but I think that overall the
Speaker 5: steps are being taking in the right direction. And what
Speaker 5: we saw last night against Wyoming I think is maybe
Speaker 5: small sample size, but still evidence that things are going
Speaker 5: well for getting him in year two.
Speaker 4: What's been the vibe among fans? You know, with you
Speaker 4: have message boards and all that kind of stuff, what
Speaker 4: do they say? Where are they in terms of not
Speaker 4: just Kenny Dillingham, but you know the program? Look, you
Speaker 4: and I know fans don't have patience, They never have patients,
Speaker 4: but they're going to have to have patience, and I
Speaker 4: think Arizona fans even had some patience. What's the vibe
Speaker 4: over there among among ASU fans?
Speaker 5: See ironically, you know, you talk about Arizona fans having passions,
Speaker 5: let's say with Jeb Fish and they're talking about whether
Speaker 5: jump took place from the year two to year three.
Speaker 5: So I think that ASC fans are are definitely pointing
Speaker 5: to that and saying, well, why can't it be here?
Speaker 6: And to me?
Speaker 5: But I think you definitely have some patients. I think
Speaker 5: they know that Kate dilling and, being an alumnus, is
Speaker 5: here for the long run. He's not looking as his
Speaker 5: job at the stepping stone, even to the last coach
Speaker 5: they used as the stepping zone was Don Cooper back
Speaker 5: in the back in the mid eighties. But nonetheless, I
Speaker 5: think the fans that you know, they have patients, and
Speaker 5: I think they were probably win against Wyoming. I mean,
Speaker 5: I don't think it's Wyoming looked the Wyoming team looked
Speaker 5: anywhere close to squad that won game last year. But
Speaker 5: when you're blowing out in Week one the team from
Speaker 5: the mout West that did have success last year, Uh,
Speaker 5: that's something that doesn't happen that often in TMP. I
Speaker 5: mean anything. Any score that came close to that in
Speaker 5: this ventury was twenty thirteen against Sacramento State, which which
Speaker 5: is an FDS opponent, not even a Group five opponent.
Speaker 3: So I think fans.
Speaker 5: Would definitely pleasantly pleased, and maybe them some of them
Speaker 5: surprised that A sure, right, all the Gates played a
Speaker 5: near perfect game on the defense, a very very balanced
Speaker 5: on offense, a lot of things where we're definitely clicking
Speaker 5: on all cylinders. I'm not saying the film session on
Speaker 5: Monday was a boring affair or anything like that. There
Speaker 5: is definitely things defict and I did mention also special
Speaker 5: teams earlier. But I think overall, I think fans are
Speaker 5: thinking like, okay, this is week one. Uh, there is
Speaker 5: hope that we can see some tangible progression and changes
Speaker 5: in set right direction in week two.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you, and I apologize for this question,
Speaker 2: but because I should know this and I don't know this,
Speaker 2: So your site hod is it is because the way
Speaker 2: you speak to us, which is fantastic, You speak from
Speaker 2: the heart and honesty. Are you are you a pro ASU?
Speaker 2: Are you just a pro a ISU site or are
Speaker 2: you straightforward issue site?
Speaker 5: But look at this is the something that the Kidder
Speaker 5: Sarrazona State fans and I'm not going to try to
Speaker 5: be in it or explain it any other way, you know.
Speaker 5: At the same time, I try to be as as
Speaker 5: objective as possible, and you know when I do my
Speaker 5: postgame articles on Sundays, I do point out the good, bad,
Speaker 5: and the ugly. So it's not so much you know,
Speaker 5: being prom as you and I ac with being I
Speaker 5: would say more in depth reporting of as you. When
Speaker 5: you do in depth reporting, not everything is going to.
Speaker 3: Be the supreme.
Speaker 5: I mean, there are going to be some some mares
Speaker 5: of concern are going to be sometimes areas that's that
Speaker 5: fell that fell flat on their face. So that's that's
Speaker 5: not conducted my for for the last twenty five years.
Speaker 14: You know, the did.
Speaker 5: Reporting in that style because I think fans ultimately do
Speaker 5: want honesty, they do want in depth reporting. I like
Speaker 5: to think that over this quarter of a center I've
Speaker 5: been providing it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, The reason I ask is, you know you have
Speaker 2: those sites where well that's not really how it went,
Speaker 2: but you know, you screak, you you speak exactly how
Speaker 2: you feel. So that's great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you're any if you're anything other than that, hode,
Speaker 4: we wouldn't have you.
Speaker 3: On the show. So you know that's true.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 4: So okay, So you got Mississippi State coming up. I
Speaker 4: was comparing this to you know, Arizona played Mississippi State
Speaker 4: last year. I confused it with the previous year. But
Speaker 4: it's that's a hard game and now they're coming to
Speaker 4: your place, which is good for you guys. But what's
Speaker 4: kind of the X What's what's the best you can
Speaker 4: hope for in that? Obviously you think you you know,
Speaker 4: you want them to win. What are you looking for
Speaker 4: what's going to make you happy at a minimum?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think first of all, nobody is having any
Speaker 5: illusions that the game is going to be anywhere near
Speaker 5: one sided, like I was thinking inst Wyoming Mississippi State
Speaker 5: is almost like a su looking the man in the mirror,
Speaker 5: because here's a team coming off their own struggling season.
Speaker 5: They were picked not last, but near last in the SEC,
Speaker 5: so they're not really entering the season with a lot
Speaker 5: of confidence. And the week one no win. I think
Speaker 5: it's something that needs to be put in perspective that
Speaker 5: just like A has used those they actually did eat
Speaker 5: an FC team in the Eastern Kentucky. I mean, sure
Speaker 5: they're dominated and was pleasing for the fans uh to
Speaker 5: see a Blue Doog offense that was near dor Matt
Speaker 5: last year playing at at a much much higher level.
Speaker 5: Their coach, Judget Jeff Levy, is somebody who doesn't play
Speaker 5: offense on skates if you will, uh you know, no
Speaker 5: uh no snap, but can be fast enough down to
Speaker 5: down definitely trying to catch the defense off off kilter.
Speaker 5: And you know that that's what I think basic defense
Speaker 5: can't expect a total opposite of Wyoming. So I think
Speaker 5: that this is a defense that's going to be a
Speaker 5: bend but not break. And you know, as much as
Speaker 5: a to say there's going to be some bend over
Speaker 5: here just because you know, maybe not, you know, I mean,
Speaker 5: time will tell if the sport was really going to
Speaker 5: be reflective of that. But you know, as far as
Speaker 5: the offensive yards, I mean, Mississippi State is somebody that
Speaker 5: you know, with with their talent, can lull out of
Speaker 5: it and probably record three hundred and fifty yards on offense.
Speaker 5: So the question is, you know, how effective can the
Speaker 5: defense be keeping them out of the end zone, maybe
Speaker 5: even preventing you know, field goals on top of that.
Speaker 5: Uh that you know, that's something that I look I
Speaker 5: look forward to see. One thing that I think is
Speaker 5: definitely going to determine the game is going to be.
Speaker 5: It's going to play play the secondary, especially the ASU
Speaker 5: cornerbacks because it's not a really experienced group and not
Speaker 5: a group that you know has you know, stellar athletes
Speaker 5: over there. So how they match up against very uh,
Speaker 5: very capable and shifty uh Mississippi State wide receivers. That's
Speaker 5: a matchup that I I dif look forward to seeing
Speaker 5: and I think there's no doubt in my mind that
Speaker 5: might determine the outcome of the game. I think on
Speaker 5: offense as u uh, still has to be you know,
Speaker 5: you know, very deliberate and MEAs sometimes semi boring, so
Speaker 5: be it. When you have a strong ground game, don't
Speaker 5: don't try to veer away from that. Mississippi State does
Speaker 5: redown alignment, which I know sometimes attempting to run the
Speaker 5: ball maybe more than you want to. But they really
Speaker 5: just have to stick a stick out a game plan
Speaker 5: because I believe that bounce on offense kills that held
Speaker 5: true against Wyoming, and I think if Arizona State can
Speaker 5: have somewhat of a balanced offense on Saturday, there are
Speaker 5: going to be in good shape. I don't see the
Speaker 5: Mississippi State defense being extremely minscing. I mean, sure they're
Speaker 5: better than Wyoming, but I still think it's a group
Speaker 5: that is you can can find success on and ball
Speaker 5: come can be very important. I mean, again going back
Speaker 5: to my point of the offense being deliberate and being patient,
Speaker 5: they need to keep in mind that sure you want
Speaker 5: to put points on the board, but any extra minute
Speaker 5: of possession that you have, I mean an unoffense is
Speaker 5: one less minute. That is very explosive and quick. Mississippi
Speaker 5: State offense is going to take the field. So I
Speaker 5: think that, you know, the AC offense has to make
Speaker 5: life somewhat easier on the defense and really give them
Speaker 5: up and breaks because it's going to be a breakneck
Speaker 5: pace from the build of offense on Saturday night.
Speaker 2: Well, hold, thanks so much for joining us. We'll talk
Speaker 2: to you again sometime soon.
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks having right, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Devil's Die. Just thanks a bunch. Let's take a quick
Speaker 2: break and then come back. Maybe take some calls. Kind
Speaker 2: of want they picked the finished last? Yes, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: You know, certainly a team that wins forty eight to
Speaker 4: seven against another you know, non, yeah, non, it's not
Speaker 4: you know, it's.
Speaker 3: A Division one team even though it's a group of five,
Speaker 3: that's pretty good. So yeah, so much as I hate
Speaker 3: to say that it hurts, my neck is burning.
Speaker 2: Well, Nico's gonna call back. What are you doing your
Speaker 2: net carrots?
Speaker 3: Why exactly? All right, let's go and take a break.
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, here, Jacobs Alas Thursday.
Speaker 2: Welcome here, everybody. The Fuck's Sports fourteen fifty. If you
Speaker 2: want to call, please do we have our eye.
Speaker 3: On the now's the time? Yeah, we got our eye
Speaker 3: on the line, right. I can see it from rec
Speaker 3: where I'm ers. It's right there.
Speaker 2: Interesting stuff.
Speaker 3: What you know, I try to be very polite, you
Speaker 3: know when we get the ASU guys on, and I
Speaker 3: think I.
Speaker 4: Was, And look, I'll never feel sorry for them because
Speaker 4: you know I don't. But you know, they're going through
Speaker 4: what Arizona went through. Yeah, maybe not as bad because yeah,
Speaker 4: things were bad with with HERM Edwards and you know,
Speaker 4: he got them in all kinds of trouble and all
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. But they didn't lose seventy to
Speaker 4: seven to Arizona. You know, O Arizona beat the hell
Speaker 4: out of them last year. So I but you know,
Speaker 4: I am one of those guys like, yeah, I take
Speaker 4: I take pleasure and when they're bad, but you also
Speaker 4: have a little pride in the damn State and you
Speaker 4: don't want them to be the worst team in the country.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, good for them that they know
Speaker 3: they had a good game. We'll see how they do
Speaker 3: against State.
Speaker 2: Right well, you know, no need to get high and mighty,
Speaker 2: but no, I get I hear you. They're exactly where
Speaker 2: Arizona was back back a couple three years ago. And
Speaker 2: we'll see how it handles itself all the rest of
Speaker 2: the way now, Arizona. For Arizona's side, they just need
Speaker 2: to kind of maintain what they've what they've gotten the
Speaker 2: last year. Don't screw it up, that's the thing.
Speaker 3: Don't mess it up.
Speaker 2: Don't mess it up kind of you know, don't don't
Speaker 2: you know what kind of Hoart messed it up for
Speaker 2: me on Saturday with those penalties. Those those yes, those
Speaker 2: unsports arela like penalties. It's like, you know, I'm better
Speaker 2: than you. I'm gonna show you and I'm gonna punch you.
Speaker 2: You know, you don't just kick their ass. That's that's
Speaker 2: kind of how.
Speaker 3: You do it.
Speaker 4: That's selfish stuff. Yeah, that's selfish stuff that.
Speaker 2: You and it's like picking on your your younger see brother,
Speaker 2: and you know you're gonna you're tougher than them.
Speaker 10: You don't need to do.
Speaker 3: That, you know.
Speaker 4: And I mean that the the the uh, the slap
Speaker 4: that got to Carrio Davis, you know, kicked out of
Speaker 4: the game, that was right in front of me. I'm
Speaker 4: looking through I'm looking at the end of the plate
Speaker 4: through my binocular and he stands up and he slaps
Speaker 4: the guy and I'm like, yeah, what the hell are
Speaker 4: you doing? You know, everybody saw that, and the ref
Speaker 4: was standing right there. You know, it's stupid.
Speaker 3: What did you do? And why did you do that?
Speaker 4: You know, and that that level of discipline or lack
Speaker 4: of discipline, You hope it's not you know.
Speaker 3: That these guys aren't.
Speaker 4: Don't get so fired up and excited that they don't
Speaker 4: have that that discipline that they need in situations like that.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's the thing that bothered me about about that,
Speaker 4: that thing, because it was stupid.
Speaker 3: It was just dumb.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, of course, and that's kind of what
Speaker 2: maybe it's the first game stuff, right, you know, And
Speaker 2: I'm sure he got on him. However he got on
Speaker 2: him and the rest.
Speaker 3: Of the well, I watched him.
Speaker 4: He went to the sideline and I was expected to
Speaker 4: doing to kena pick it up in his face, and
Speaker 4: Ni Keina just.
Speaker 3: Walked right by.
Speaker 4: Maybe that was what he wanted to. I'm ignoring the
Speaker 4: hell out of you.
Speaker 3: You're in the doctor, or give him one of your
Speaker 3: dad look, you know, I went.
Speaker 4: Back to you know, I think about that in the
Speaker 4: in that ninety eight Arizona game against Washington, late in
Speaker 4: the game and I can't remember who the defensive back
Speaker 4: was or one of the safeties gets kicked out of
Speaker 4: the game in ninety eight the Leap by the Lake
Speaker 4: game up there, okay and laying the game and I
Speaker 4: can't remember.
Speaker 3: The defensive back's name.
Speaker 4: But he gets up from a tackle and he kicks
Speaker 4: the guy, all right, and he gets thrown out of
Speaker 4: the game. And he comes, he comes walking off the
Speaker 4: field and he goes and this is all on you know,
Speaker 4: on the telecast. And I've seen that game so many times,
Speaker 4: you know on replay that I remember this that he
Speaker 4: goes and sits down on the you know, goes to
Speaker 4: the bench and he sits down, He puts his helmet down,
Speaker 4: and Dick goes over there and he's screaming at him,
Speaker 4: and sure, you're, you're, you're, you know, you're you're reading
Speaker 4: his lips and there's about three or four or five
Speaker 4: f bombs in there from Dick from Dick, and he's
Speaker 4: telling him to get off the damn bench and get
Speaker 4: up on the sideline and root for.
Speaker 3: Your and root for your team.
Speaker 2: You will say one of those words, yeah, you.
Speaker 4: Know, you know, And I kind of expecting Ken you
Speaker 4: do the same thing instead of gave him the which
Speaker 4: is maybe a different way.
Speaker 2: No, of course you you and your dad, and I
Speaker 2: have my dad, and my dad never kind of yelled
Speaker 2: at me, never hit me, but he gave me a
Speaker 2: look and that was just as bad. You know, he
Speaker 2: disappointed me, son or you know what I'm saying this, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, but yeah, but it's funny you say that
Speaker 2: about Dick because if he's doing that, because he never
Speaker 2: he never did that stuff. But so you know he
Speaker 2: was pissed if if he was on the guy like that. Exactly,
Speaker 2: he did that, uh practice every now and again when
Speaker 2: the guys would fight or you know, shelter.
Speaker 4: You know it's not the team. Yeah no, but so
Speaker 4: I I followed him. I followed him to the bench
Speaker 4: with my monoculars to see what he was gonna do,
Speaker 4: what he was gonna do. Plus I was listening to
Speaker 4: Brian Jeffries and he was you know, he was commenting,
Speaker 4: and he kind of gave on him going to the side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because he slugged it, and who slugs anybody
Speaker 2: with a helmet on?
Speaker 3: Dumb guys.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, that'll be fixed or well we hope it's
Speaker 2: going to be fixed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that was that was not good. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: so you do hope that that's not a not an.
Speaker 2: Issue, right right? Richard continues to send me emails. New
Speaker 2: Mexico had a game under its belt, it was playing
Speaker 2: better it had you know, the quarterback was very good.
Speaker 2: Arizona was in its first rehearsal, first game rehearsal or whatever.
Speaker 2: So there's that. Anybody want to call, Please do let
Speaker 2: us know if you were disappointed at anything, maybe obviously
Speaker 2: impressed with anything, because how could you not have been
Speaker 2: impressed with tax but you know, maybe concerned at all
Speaker 2: over the next COD games.
Speaker 4: And I just don't know what the right word is for.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I want to say I'm concerned,
Speaker 4: I'm bothered by it.
Speaker 2: Bothered by Oh yeah, yeah, I'm not concerned that they
Speaker 2: have a horrible defense.
Speaker 4: Uh, I'm just bothered by the fact that they let
Speaker 4: him do that.
Speaker 2: Here, we got a good call.
Speaker 3: Let's take this. Hi, you're on the air. Nine on
Speaker 3: the ball.
Speaker 6: He's Richard.
Speaker 13: You guys, how you.
Speaker 3: Doing, Richard?
Speaker 2: You're gonna call good?
Speaker 4: Hey.
Speaker 6: I wanted to say that, actually, uh, New Mexico did
Speaker 6: Arizona a great favor because Dad Pierre, who had a
Speaker 6: very good game and he is a very good dual
Speaker 6: thread quarterback that helps get Arizona ready for Kansas State.
Speaker 6: And that's how I tall that. My goodness, Uh, in
Speaker 6: New Mexico State, you know, played lives out, you know. Uh.
Speaker 6: And and that guy was good. He's a very good
Speaker 6: bill thread quarterback. And it just took Arizona while adjust.
Speaker 6: You know, that's the first live fire they've seen all year,
Speaker 6: and they don't scream as much anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I believe that.
Speaker 6: This is a great, great game for Arizona to get
Speaker 6: ready for Kansas State and their dual threat quarterback. So
Speaker 6: that's a really good deal for Arizona. And you know,
Speaker 6: and the offense was great. No line, everyzone has a
Speaker 6: great offici line and great receivers and a great quarterback. No,
Speaker 6: that's very hopeful, I thought.
Speaker 2: No, Richard, you you bring up a point I think
Speaker 2: with the tackling stuff. Well, we talked about this in
Speaker 2: ninety eight, right, they go to Penn State. Uh, they're
Speaker 2: full of themselves, blah blah blah. First game, they had
Speaker 2: not tackled at all that before the season, Before the
Speaker 2: season began, they didn't want to get anybody hurt. And
Speaker 2: we know how that turned out. So you know, I
Speaker 2: think your point is valid that they were ready to
Speaker 2: tackle because they had not been tackling.
Speaker 6: That's and dam here, Steve, I bet he gets offered
Speaker 6: a big contract at the end of the year.
Speaker 2: Totally totally agree, totally. I mean that's what this is nowadays.
Speaker 2: It's kind of a dress rehearsal for the next step
Speaker 2: or next level, you know.
Speaker 6: But he played with a lot of heart too, and
Speaker 6: he played a great game. But the great No Fafida
Speaker 6: pulled it off him and McMillan, so they go. It
Speaker 6: was just very hopeful. I think they can beat Kansas State,
Speaker 6: and I think this was a great ain't for them
Speaker 6: to play to get ready.
Speaker 4: Well and Ja Yeah, well that's it, and you're right
Speaker 4: because because the thing about that is that you know,
Speaker 4: when you you always you don't want you don't want
Speaker 4: to get comfortable. Well, you saw we just talked to
Speaker 4: Hod Rabino about how Kenny Dillingham had to get his guys,
Speaker 4: you know, to to refocus because they got all full
Speaker 4: of themselves after beating the crap out of out of Wyoming.
Speaker 4: So yes, on the one hand, you don't like what
Speaker 4: you saw, but on the other the n yeah, the
Speaker 4: coaches can say, you guys think you're all that, you're not.
Speaker 3: New Mexico.
Speaker 4: Just put thirty nine points on the board. Get to work,
Speaker 4: so you know, yeah, so there's that.
Speaker 6: That's right, that's right now. You know, we do tend
Speaker 6: to underrate these teams. Remember last year in New Mexico,
Speaker 6: State stomped Auburn thirty one to ten. So you know
Speaker 6: this year from New Mexico, steve the state of New Mexico.
Speaker 6: You guys are playing some follow them.
Speaker 2: Man, Richard, I am no longer.
Speaker 10: State.
Speaker 2: I take my mail here in Tucson. I am no
Speaker 2: young in New Mexican. How I do like the chili that.
Speaker 6: They have his heart in the Rio Grande.
Speaker 2: We talked about that last week. I'm sure like twenty
Speaker 2: five ain't easy. It ain't easy.
Speaker 6: We are, Yeah, he tried. He's so down played.
Speaker 1: Ye.
Speaker 6: And here's the other thing you guys down played.
Speaker 5: That's shocking.
Speaker 6: That was a rivalry game and nobody mentioned it.
Speaker 2: Which one Arizona.
Speaker 3: That hasn't been That hasn't been a rivalrychard.
Speaker 2: How old are five?
Speaker 3: How old are you?
Speaker 6: I'm old. I've been around this town for a long time.
Speaker 6: But that's a rivalry game. Can't even mentioned it? Steve
Speaker 6: of course didn't then.
Speaker 2: No, just not a right. That was nineteen seventy two
Speaker 2: when Norm Ellenberger was a coach. Whatever, all right, Richard,
Speaker 2: thank you, But he was wearing turcoise on the sideline.
Speaker 4: I mean they remember they if you remember the Kid
Speaker 4: Carson rife, right, they would give it for this game
Speaker 4: back when I covered the Okay, they had to find
Speaker 4: go find the Kid Carson rifle in like a dungeon somewhere, McHale.
Speaker 2: No one cared about.
Speaker 4: Nobody knew where it was because I had to do
Speaker 4: a story on it. And the story was it wasn't
Speaker 4: Kid Carson's rifle. It was it was just a rifle
Speaker 4: that that the that the U of A R O. T. C.
Speaker 4: Had And then and so they decided to you know,
Speaker 4: when they were looking for like a trophy to give
Speaker 4: for the for the for the for the rivalry, somebody said, hey,
Speaker 4: let's do this rifle, and so they did. So it's
Speaker 4: not even Kid Carson's rifle.
Speaker 2: Goes back. We have time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry about that. We got we got excited about
Speaker 4: the Kid Carson rifle. So it's not who wasn't even
Speaker 4: Kid Carson's rifle. Hi, you're on the air and one
Speaker 4: on the ball.
Speaker 2: Hey what Vick? What's up? What's in your background? You
Speaker 2: in New York?
Speaker 14: It's uh no, my air conditioner. Probably I'm in the car.
Speaker 2: Okay, what's up?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 14: I just called to ask and you guys mentioned it
Speaker 14: a little bit ago. Why is everybody complaining that got
Speaker 14: so many catches and and yards and everything else? I mean,
Speaker 14: go through time. I mean Joe Montana hit Jerry Rice,
Speaker 14: uh Trady hit Moss and wrongs. The stars are always
Speaker 14: gonna show, aren't.
Speaker 2: They totally agree with you? Go with what the what?
Speaker 2: What brought you there? Right? I think?
Speaker 14: Yeah? But if even guys I heard Wheeler on uh
Speaker 14: on spears this morning, and he's, Oh, they're not gonna
Speaker 14: be able to go to him all the time. Their
Speaker 14: other teams are gonna double him. And that's you know,
Speaker 14: I guess when you find them out.
Speaker 2: Well, that's when you call Wildern to say they have
Speaker 2: other players. Josh, they have other players. They do well,
Speaker 2: we'll take care of business with John got on it.
Speaker 2: What did he pick? How many points did he get
Speaker 2: this week?
Speaker 3: He didn't get in?
Speaker 2: Oh, he didn't get in. He's tired of child. Okay,
Speaker 2: I totally agree with you. And you know what, if
Speaker 2: he has twelve catches next week, more power to him, exactly.
Speaker 14: And he's the he's the star. And I heard you say,
Speaker 14: I mean no, I's been with him since days. Great,
Speaker 14: of course he's gonna look look to him first.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure he's number one. And whoever whoever gets gets
Speaker 2: out open will be the next guy. Look at how
Speaker 2: Cowen did last year. He was he was good because
Speaker 2: he was good, right right, so if he if if
Speaker 2: if a team was closed, well then you had the
Speaker 2: next guy. And he was the guy. He's lucky to
Speaker 2: have as many receptions as he did.
Speaker 14: Well, I'm gonna go back to your boy, Shawn Miller, Steve,
Speaker 14: how many times did somebody hit two or three threes
Speaker 14: in a row and then he never touched the ball.
Speaker 2: Because I never saw the ball again. Yeah, you're right,
Speaker 2: you're right.
Speaker 14: Okay, Well we'll see Saturday. I think it's gonna be
Speaker 14: a cool game. Uh, but we'll uh, we'll see. I'm
Speaker 14: getting ready for that Kanadas State thing already.
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, all right, so he's right, just go
Speaker 2: with go with what you got. And I understand the
Speaker 2: concern that, well, they can't go to him all the time.
Speaker 2: You no question, they're gonna double him, right, they're gonna
Speaker 2: double him. Well, if I can't catch the past thought
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, and those guys are ready to catch pasture,
Speaker 4: not like sure, it's not like to have me practicing
Speaker 4: and stuff. Right, they're gonna catch your passes. It's just
Speaker 4: you're gonna throw the ball to the open guy. And
Speaker 4: if and if and if t Mac is open, and
Speaker 4: with all the other things he can do once he
Speaker 4: gets the ball, you're gonna throw the damn ball.
Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2: This is this is over analyzing.
Speaker 4: Gaituation came up as part of a question I think
Speaker 4: in the in the plus game press confidence. Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: somebody and somebody asked about that. It was like, if
Speaker 4: you're not gonna cover, we're gonna throw him the damn ball. Sure,
Speaker 4: nothing wrong with that. Well, yes, we would like to
Speaker 4: spread the ball.
Speaker 2: What's the right answer. That's the right answer. We're gonna
Speaker 2: go to him until they covernment if he's covered. We
Speaker 2: got a couple of guys.
Speaker 3: No, absolutely and no, no problem with with what they did.
Speaker 2: And we'll see if I take advantage again this week
Speaker 2: and then when the competition steeps up or steps up, okay,
Speaker 2: maybe four or five, yeah, catch us who knows?
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 4: So I think it's you know, all, that's fine, you're
Speaker 4: you're but stee you know what, let's let's just let's
Speaker 4: just say it this way. That's a product of not
Speaker 4: enough the information getting out. So the four pieces of
Speaker 4: information that get out, you know, after a press.
Speaker 3: Conference, that's what people zero in on, right.
Speaker 4: You know, they didn't get it to ask enough questions
Speaker 4: where this becomes a non sure subject.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, you have a certain window of questions to ask, right, right,
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 3: I agree, and so you know, so it got it
Speaker 3: got kicked around. This week. I haven't even heard his
Speaker 3: press conference from today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, neither way. Thursday. Yeah, so I'm completely uninformed today.
Speaker 2: That's okay, it's called Thursday on Eye on the Ball.
Speaker 3: We're just a couple of busy guys.
Speaker 2: We're busy because now we got to go take You know,
Speaker 2: you don't even have breaking news, dude. We can just
Speaker 2: b s.
Speaker 3: We'll find something.
Speaker 2: Okay, we got we'll get about five minutes and the
Speaker 2: lines were open to anybody will be open.
Speaker 3: Lines will be open. But yeah, well we'll get some break.
Speaker 3: We'll get whatever I sent you a thing today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about about.
Speaker 4: Okay, so we're gonna take our break top of the hour.
Speaker 4: We're gonna come back and we might have some breaking
Speaker 4: news for you.