WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.400 --> 00:00:06.759 The weird Things happened in the. 2 00:00:10.279 --> 00:00:11.960 Weird, Weird Weird. 3 00:00:26.079 --> 00:00:31.079 Welcome to Bledsoe said, so yet again, we've survived another week. Everybody. 4 00:00:31.239 --> 00:00:33.880 I'm your host, Ryan Bledsoe and we are joined tonight 5 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:39.200 by our producer Alex. Okay, probably remember Alex right show 6 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:45.399 your face. I figured you guys might need to have 7 00:00:45.439 --> 00:00:47.359 your memory jogged on who Alex is and what his 8 00:00:47.359 --> 00:00:50.840 involvement is with the show. He's the guy that pushes 9 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:55.479 the buttons and presses play and that's about all there 10 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:56.159 is to it lately. 11 00:00:59.119 --> 00:01:00.439 But I've been staying up out the way. 12 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:00.679 Man. 13 00:01:01.399 --> 00:01:02.840 Yeah, no, I'm just teasing you. 14 00:01:02.920 --> 00:01:03.119 Man. 15 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:05.400 We get all these comments throughout the years and it's like, 16 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:08.599 you know, you don't let Alex talk. I'm like, let him. 17 00:01:09.159 --> 00:01:11.920 I beg him, I beg him to talk. True now, 18 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:13.719 but you do a great job, man, I'm just kidding. 19 00:01:14.159 --> 00:01:18.079 So before we get into tonight's topic, I want to 20 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:20.840 talk about three things really quick and then we're gonna 21 00:01:20.879 --> 00:01:23.760 move on. 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They host live 44 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:38.800 chats in there with the community and they're bumping. I 45 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:40.560 think last week they had like fifty people in there. 46 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:42.759 I'm like, dang, dude, that's kind of what we do 47 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:45.360 in our events. You know, fifty people in there, so 48 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:47.800 they have a really really cool thing going on every 49 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:50.039 week in there. And then once a month, Alex and 50 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:52.639 I do live chats with people. And then at our 51 00:02:52.639 --> 00:02:56.879 ten dollars tier, you get discounts on our merchandise, you 52 00:02:56.960 --> 00:02:59.719 get your name and the show credits, and I forgot 53 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:02.280 to make I always forget this part. We do have 54 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:06.759 another show that is and both tiers, so both heers 55 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:09.759 have access to our other show Full Disclosure with Ryan Bledsoe. 56 00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:12.560 So without further ado, I want to get into the 57 00:03:12.719 --> 00:03:17.639 topic that was on my mind for today. So I 58 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:22.919 believe the order in which these episodes come out might 59 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:26.800 be rearranged a little bit. This may come out after 60 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:28.919 the Dark Force episode. I'm not one hundred percent sure, 61 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:33.240 like immediately following, but as you guys know, when we 62 00:03:33.240 --> 00:03:35.120 were recording that episode, I said that I wanted to 63 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:37.520 do a follow up and talk about the UFO phenomenon. 64 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:42.319 But then again, as it goes, I'm thinking about the 65 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:45.759 subject at hand, and from week to week sometimes my 66 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:50.479 feeling changes about how I want to talk about certain topics. 67 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:53.800 So instead of only focusing on some sort of dark angle. 68 00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:57.479 I'll hit that a little bit, but I sort of 69 00:03:57.560 --> 00:04:05.000 wanted to just broadly reflect on my experience witnessing the 70 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:09.879 entire subject of the UFO phenomenon change from the center 71 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:13.280 of the subject. So my experience in the last twenty 72 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:17.399 years has been watching this whole thing change from the epicenter, and. 73 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:18.480 I wanted to talk about that. 74 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:23.480 So when I'm speaking in reference to the UFO phenomenon, 75 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:28.639 I'm talking about my experience growing up being within this subject, right, 76 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:32.639 So my experience with the UFO phenomenon is different from 77 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:41.040 everyone else's. There's probably nobody around who has this perspective 78 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:44.920 other than some other person somewhere who has the exact 79 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:48.759 same story that we've never heard of, that sees interdimensional beings, 80 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:51.839 sees stuff online and sees what the public thinks, and then, 81 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:54.879 you know, behind closed doors, deals with the reality of 82 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:57.000 the situation with the powers that be. So if you 83 00:04:57.000 --> 00:04:59.040 guys can find somebody else like that, please let me know. 84 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:02.839 But for now, I'm just going to focus on my experience. 85 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:09.480 So when I was thirteen years old and my dad 86 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:11.800 and my brother come home from the river and they 87 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:13.839 start talking about what they had seen and what they 88 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:20.920 had witnessed. I remember sort of lighting up, like being 89 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:22.959 a little bit in shock, but kind of lighting up like, 90 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:27.000 oh my gosh, this is incredible, you know. And I 91 00:05:27.040 --> 00:05:29.839 also remember growing up and hearing people tell stories about 92 00:05:29.839 --> 00:05:34.560 things like ghosts or Bigfoot or whatever, and always believing 93 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:39.839 them inherently to be true. Especially having gone to church 94 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:42.720 my whole childhood, I was always open to the supernatural 95 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:51.560 and had a genuine belief in, you know, spiritual forces, God, angels, devils, demons, whatever, 96 00:05:52.160 --> 00:05:55.519 you know. So being open to the concept of something 97 00:05:55.560 --> 00:05:59.360 else happening wasn't really that hard for me to grasp. 98 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:05.839 What was hard for me to grasp was how it 99 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:09.279 all fit into the equation, how it all made sense right. 100 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:12.639 Having been someone who grew up with the Bible and 101 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:14.480 then hearing about this stuff, I'm like, how does it 102 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:20.759 all mesh right? So I wanted to kind of focus 103 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:26.040 on that. Sorry, I'm having a dry throat today. I'm like, 104 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:39.519 gotta drink some water now. The first existential shock that 105 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:44.000 I remember receiving was my father telling me that he 106 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:52.680 believed these beings were angelic, and I remember being so 107 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:58.079 confused and being open to the notion that this phenomenon 108 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:04.199 was somehow alien in that they flew in UFOs, but 109 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:07.800 they were somehow connected to God in the Bible right, 110 00:07:07.839 --> 00:07:11.879 And I didn't really understand how it fit. I didn't 111 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:15.160 quite see the picture, but as a thirteen year old child, 112 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:16.759 I just knew it to be true. 113 00:07:16.839 --> 00:07:17.240 And I. 114 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:21.040 And this is before I even saw anything right, just 115 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:24.360 like kind of hearing my dad's explanation things, and I 116 00:07:24.399 --> 00:07:26.360 knew he was telling the truth, But it was like 117 00:07:26.439 --> 00:07:30.120 you ever, have you ever been in existential shock before 118 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:32.240 or any sort of like cognitive dissonance? 119 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:37.639 I don't think so. The only time that I can 120 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:40.800 remember is probably being a little too young, lying in 121 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:45.279 bed thinking about the totality of death. So I think 122 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:49.279 like existential shock in that way just geared towards death, 123 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:54.000 but not really due to some outside circumstance that makes 124 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:54.839 sense or. 125 00:07:54.839 --> 00:07:57.639 Think about, Like, I don't know what your experience was, 126 00:07:57.680 --> 00:07:59.920 but what it was like finding out Santa Claus wasn't real? 127 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:02.240 You know what I mean? 128 00:08:02.360 --> 00:08:02.600 No, I. 129 00:08:04.600 --> 00:08:08.920 Have a very uh. I found all my stuff and 130 00:08:08.959 --> 00:08:10.480 then started reading emails. 131 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:13.519 Yeah, but don't you think you were pretty disappointed at 132 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:13.959 that age? 133 00:08:14.920 --> 00:08:14.959 No? 134 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:18.079 I think I was a little more like, uh, happy 135 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:21.920 that my hunch was correct. Wow, you're a psychopath. 136 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:25.560 Probably you weren't You weren't disappointed to find out that 137 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:26.519 Santa Claus wasn't real. 138 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:30.439 No, I feel like I cracked the case, you know 139 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:32.600 what I mean? Yeah, I feel like they tried to 140 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:35.720 keep keep it, keep it going for a while. And 141 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:37.960 then you know, my mom left her computer open, and 142 00:08:38.039 --> 00:08:41.200 this is in like the era of internet orders. So 143 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:44.600 these packages started showing up around Christmas time and then 144 00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:48.279 I get into the email and start seeing the receipts. 145 00:08:49.279 --> 00:08:53.000 God, I pray that my son is not quite like that. 146 00:08:53.279 --> 00:08:57.960 Me too, but me too. Wow, this just maybe your karma. 147 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:00.759 But I bring up Santa Claus because you know, I 148 00:09:00.799 --> 00:09:03.600 think every, if not most children go through that at 149 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:06.120 some point where they believe in this kind of magical 150 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:08.279 thing and then eventually at the right age or maybe 151 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:10.159 they find out on accident, kind of like you did. 152 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:13.639 You just find out it's not real, and it's like, wait, 153 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:16.039 but I thought it was. And you know what I mean, 154 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:18.559 Like for a lot of young children finding that out, 155 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:21.600 it can be very hard to process. And that's just 156 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:26.399 one basic, little silly example of that. But I knew 157 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:28.720 that it was angelic. I knew that it was somehow UFOs. 158 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:30.639 I knew that it was somehow technological, but I didn't 159 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:34.039 quite understand how it all fit. And I wouldn't understand 160 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:39.480 that part for five years. Right shortly after that initial encounter, 161 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:41.840 I began to see things for myself with my own eyes. 162 00:09:42.960 --> 00:09:47.080 And my dad would drag me outside many many nights, 163 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:49.039 you know, get up there here, throw your pants on, 164 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:50.960 through your clothes on, whatever, Get up, you know, I'm 165 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:52.559 like in my room at four in the morning or whatever, 166 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:55.159 like get dressed. It's cold outside, like, you know, we 167 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:57.679 gotta go see. I need you to see. And I 168 00:09:57.679 --> 00:09:59.279 would go outside and I would look up and there'd 169 00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:03.919 be orbs and what happened so many times. By the time, 170 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:07.519 maybe a few weeks after the initial encounter, we all 171 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:10.159 started to see things as a family, like really that 172 00:10:10.559 --> 00:10:14.360 soon and then over the following years, it was like 173 00:10:14.440 --> 00:10:16.600 Dad being so desperate for us to see and experience 174 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:18.759 what he was experiencing, and like really be accepted and 175 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:20.840 believed that he would be dragging us outside over and 176 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:22.440 over and over. Get out of here, come on, come on, 177 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:28.039 come on. So there was this understanding that you know, 178 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:31.519 what we were seeing was real, and it was around 179 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:35.759 us all the time, but I just didn't really understand 180 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:38.559 how it worked, you know, and that drove me crazy. 181 00:10:40.840 --> 00:10:43.679 Because for a lot of people who've been exposed to 182 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:48.000 this knowledge, you've probably been exposed to, particularly what I'm 183 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:51.519 talking about, you know, with being able to like communicate 184 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:54.960 with the orbs and ask them to appear and that 185 00:10:55.000 --> 00:10:57.519 whole level of contact. They've probably been exposed to that 186 00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:01.240 because of us. Because for a decade and a half 187 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:03.480 at the point we put the show out, you know, 188 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:05.600 we had been dealing with this through the school of 189 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:08.320 hard knocks, which is life and experience, and we had 190 00:11:08.360 --> 00:11:10.759 been learning the hard way how this works. So you 191 00:11:10.759 --> 00:11:13.279 could imagine what it was like when this was happening 192 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:16.480 to us, impressed upon us by some outside force, and 193 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:19.320 we're desperate to understand what this is. Right, just think 194 00:11:19.320 --> 00:11:22.679 about like the madness that comes from that. Are their 195 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:24.720 patterns here. My dad was a big numbers guy, big 196 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:25.240 patterns guy. 197 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:25.840 He's a savant. 198 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:29.200 He's always paying attention to patterns, how they appear, and 199 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:35.000 you know what things they respond to, what words, what prayers, 200 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:41.519 what thoughts, whatever. And then soon after that is when 201 00:11:42.799 --> 00:11:45.120 you know, all hell broke loose and our family because 202 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:48.159 Dad went and reported it, and people from Moufon came 203 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:54.320 and started to investigate our family. So when Mofon came 204 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:57.759 around and put us on the Discovery Channel, before that, 205 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:01.159 actually they did write ups and journals and they published 206 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:06.679 us in their dinky piece of crab hokey mumbo jumbo 207 00:12:06.759 --> 00:12:08.799 journal back in the day. That was just a bunch 208 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:15.960 of bull crap. And they even like left elements of 209 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:19.759 our story out and altered elements of it and changed 210 00:12:19.799 --> 00:12:23.200 parts of Christian or story in the early days, and 211 00:12:23.240 --> 00:12:25.200 like my dad was furious about that. They just were 212 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:27.279 never honest from the start. There were people from Muffon 213 00:12:27.320 --> 00:12:28.679 who were really good people, and they were just like 214 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:32.360 volunteers on the lower level of the organization. But as 215 00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:34.879 a whole, the organization did us very bad and they 216 00:12:34.879 --> 00:12:36.519 painted us in a very bad light, and they even 217 00:12:36.519 --> 00:12:41.159 altered our story. Right, so Dad reports it to them. 218 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:44.039 They get investigators out, some of them good people, some 219 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:46.159 of them not so good, some of them literally in 220 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:52.679 intelligence agencies, and shortly after that, you know, they're working 221 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:54.679 on the documentary and putting us out there to the world. 222 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:58.399 So by the end of two thousand and eight, we 223 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:03.120 were like, kind of our story was starting to spread 224 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:07.879 in some capacity because of the Discovery Channel and move on. Now, 225 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:12.759 this is kind of what I wanted to talk about. 226 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:15.559 When our story started getting out there to the public. 227 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:23.159 I was exposed to so many kinds of people, to 228 00:13:23.720 --> 00:13:29.159 so many different perspectives, and so many different levels of 229 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:34.320 narrative to this scene. And not to mention, I was 230 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:37.240 so desperate to understand what was happening to us that 231 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:40.720 I began to, you know, research things online. And something 232 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:44.200 that I kept finding was that the only really like 233 00:13:44.840 --> 00:13:49.679 big UFO cases at the time were it was like 234 00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:58.799 Betty and Barney Hill, Travis Walton, maybe Whitley Streeber, although 235 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:01.519 I doubt I had even heard of him. I didn't 236 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:03.720 hear about him until many years later, to be honest. 237 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:09.679 And there was one more it's just kaping me at 238 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:14.120 the moment, it'll come back to me obviously, like Phoenix lights, 239 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:19.440 Roswell all that stuff, right. But and then I started 240 00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:22.399 to meet so many people that were like into really 241 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:26.600 weird things. And the reason I bring this up is 242 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:32.480 to say that people from our church suppressed us and 243 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:37.840 rejected us because they said it was demonic and that 244 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:41.360 Jesus didn't die on other planets, he didn't go become 245 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:44.360 crucified on other planets for aliens to be saved. So 246 00:14:44.399 --> 00:14:46.919 what we were dealing with was not biblical, it was demonic. 247 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:50.240 It was of sin, and you know, we were shunned 248 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:52.919 and suppressed. Right, So on the one hand, our church 249 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:55.759 community mocked us and hated us, and then on the 250 00:14:55.799 --> 00:14:58.039 other hand, when we got involved with the UFO community, 251 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:01.360 it was full of a bunch of ko wax like 252 00:15:02.159 --> 00:15:06.159 crazy quacks. I'm talking two thousand and eight. 253 00:15:06.279 --> 00:15:07.279 Dude. 254 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:09.519 People that were into UFOs at the time were like 255 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:16.840 tenfoil hats, like legitimately the kind of people that would 256 00:15:17.000 --> 00:15:22.279 actually wear tinfoil hats and would with a straight face 257 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:26.039 be telling you stuff like, you know, a gray came 258 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:29.399 into the room and took their eggs, or you know, 259 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:34.480 some blue feathery being all this weird crap. Dude, Like, 260 00:15:34.519 --> 00:15:36.639 there was so many weird people that were into this stuff, 261 00:15:36.919 --> 00:15:40.879 and they mocked us for being religious because Dad was 262 00:15:40.919 --> 00:15:43.919 the first person on the scene who said that the 263 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:47.519 UFO phenomenon was spiritual, that it was you know, religious 264 00:15:47.639 --> 00:15:52.679 or angelic or anything like that. So we were blackballed 265 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:59.000 by the church, and we were blackballed by the UFO community. 266 00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:01.480 Whatever that is, you know, whatever you want to call that. 267 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:03.480 I just said the UFO world. My dad has always 268 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:05.559 said the UFO world. We didn't know what to call it, right, 269 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:08.840 so he said the UFO community or the UFO world whatever. 270 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:13.240 They thought we were religious, they shunned us, they mocked us. 271 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:16.159 The Church thought we were demonic, they shunned us, they 272 00:16:16.200 --> 00:16:19.120 mocked us. They you know, criticized us and tried to 273 00:16:19.159 --> 00:16:21.039 exercise the devil out of us and all that stuff. 274 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:25.240 So talk about existential shock, I'm like, where do we 275 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:29.879 fit here? Where is this? What is this? What is happening? 276 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:33.399 I know it's biblical because I've seen it. My father 277 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:38.200 told me, and it told him that it's you know, spiritual. 278 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:44.279 It impressed that upon him, But I just didn't quite understand. 279 00:16:46.360 --> 00:16:52.039 And for many years, even though the move On and 280 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:55.879 Discovery Channel documentary intentionally was put out to smear us 281 00:16:55.879 --> 00:17:00.799 and make us look like liars, we atracted a small 282 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:04.599 following over the next few years, and Dad was so 283 00:17:04.680 --> 00:17:09.759 desperate to be believed that he allowed just anybody who 284 00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:14.799 would write him on Facebook to come to our property anybody, literally, anybody, 285 00:17:15.480 --> 00:17:18.839 crowds of people, crowds of twenty people right, People would 286 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:22.400 be camping in our yard intents. Literally we would get 287 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:24.440 home from some event at school or some sort of 288 00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:27.240 after school program or something, or maybe I'm at a 289 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:28.960 friend's house for the weekend, and then I get home 290 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:31.039 and it's just like there's tents in the yard and 291 00:17:31.079 --> 00:17:36.839 there's people camping at our property. That's happened. Sometimes crowds 292 00:17:36.839 --> 00:17:39.960 of people come from Raleigh or from wherever, Pennsylvania, and 293 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:41.240 they'd all want to come see and they want to 294 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:43.319 meet the guy they saw on the Discovery Channel. And 295 00:17:43.359 --> 00:17:46.200 eventually that morphed into people wanting to have an experience 296 00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:48.839 and crowds of people being over and they would see 297 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:51.160 orbs and things like that, and that kind of built 298 00:17:51.640 --> 00:17:53.799 over a number of years. But the point is there 299 00:17:54.079 --> 00:17:56.039 was a community of people out there in the world 300 00:17:56.039 --> 00:18:01.160 that heard our story, you know, saw the documentary, even 301 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:03.160 the one that was intended to make us look like liars, 302 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:05.319 and they believed us, and they took pity on us, 303 00:18:05.319 --> 00:18:08.599 and they understood, you know, that we weren't making it up. 304 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:16.799 So in those days of you know, the two thousand 305 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:20.200 and eight two thousand and nine. That era, we were 306 00:18:20.279 --> 00:18:25.039 the only people. We were absolutely the only people talking 307 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:32.160 about orbs, talking about orbs in the context that is 308 00:18:32.200 --> 00:18:35.880 not related to graveyard photography, you know what I mean, 309 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:39.960 Because what existed before that would be ghost hunting shows. 310 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:42.160 They would go to orbs that I mean, they'd go 311 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:44.119 to graveyards, they take pictures, and then they would get 312 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:47.799 like orbs in the photos. They weren't necessarily seeing orbs, 313 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:52.279 but they would be in the photos. So that existed, right. 314 00:18:54.279 --> 00:18:59.400 Nobody was talking about them like we were period. Nobody 315 00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:01.960 was talking about them from a consciousness perspective in the 316 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:06.559 sense that you could communicate with these beings like spiritually 317 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:10.359 or telepathically or anything like that. It was all this 318 00:19:10.599 --> 00:19:17.480 like materialistics, scientology, science fiction narrative. At the time of UFOs, 319 00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:20.599 it was the Stephen Greer bullshit. It was you know, 320 00:19:20.680 --> 00:19:23.079 all of the abduction stories where they take your semen 321 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:26.680 or your eggs, or you know, they put a baby 322 00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:30.279 inside of you like some you know, genetic hybrid program 323 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:32.160 and that was the only thing of the time, and 324 00:19:32.200 --> 00:19:33.720 we stood out. We were like a voice in the 325 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:37.720 wilderness saying, hey, actually, you know it's spiritual. Maybe you 326 00:19:37.720 --> 00:19:39.720 guys are all wrong. Maybe you guys are the freaking 327 00:19:39.759 --> 00:19:41.960 crazy ones. We're not crazy. 328 00:19:42.039 --> 00:19:42.680 This is real. 329 00:19:43.079 --> 00:19:46.640 You know, NASA is knocking on our freaking door, and 330 00:19:46.680 --> 00:19:48.880 the CIA and all these people you want to see. 331 00:19:49.079 --> 00:19:52.240 Here's a photo. Look, NASA was at our house last night. 332 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:55.359 Nobody else was doing that. We were the only ones 333 00:19:55.400 --> 00:19:56.319 doing that and still are. 334 00:19:57.599 --> 00:19:57.880 Well. 335 00:19:58.559 --> 00:20:01.960 Now you can be a YouTuber or an Instagram or 336 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:05.160 Twitter influencer and NASA or the CIA or whoever will 337 00:20:05.160 --> 00:20:07.319 show up at your door because they want your platform. 338 00:20:07.880 --> 00:20:10.839 They want to use your platform to push their propaganda 339 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:17.160 to the masses. But before that, we were the ones 340 00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:20.279 that they were coming to saying, Hey, what do these 341 00:20:20.319 --> 00:20:22.240 beings want with you? Guys? We know you're telling the truth. 342 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:24.200 You know all that other stuff out there is crap. 343 00:20:24.920 --> 00:20:26.519 We know that you guys are seeing the real deal. 344 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:28.319 They came to us in nineteen fifty two and they 345 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:31.960 warned us not to use nuke's above ground ever again 346 00:20:32.039 --> 00:20:34.079 or there would be consequences. 347 00:20:34.599 --> 00:20:34.799 Right. 348 00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:39.519 So I say all that to say that for the 349 00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:46.519 last twenty years, from you know, being within the UFO 350 00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:50.720 subject very intimately, I have watched as the paradigm has 351 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:55.160 shifted about this UFO phenomenon, and my little family. We 352 00:20:55.559 --> 00:20:59.880 have gone from being quacks and the religious and you 353 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:02.400 communities to where nobody wanted to talk to us, nobody 354 00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:04.480 wanted to play ball with us. We were heretics and freaks, 355 00:21:05.640 --> 00:21:11.000 to now everybody and their mother wants to summon a craft. 356 00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:14.319 They want to pay Stephen Greer five thousand dollars to 357 00:21:14.359 --> 00:21:16.599 shine lasers at the sky, and some in a UFO 358 00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:20.480 or they want to you know, watch the Jake Barber story, 359 00:21:20.480 --> 00:21:25.680 which is exactly like ours. Go figure. You know, they 360 00:21:25.759 --> 00:21:30.720 want to. There's x y z number of circles online 361 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:34.839 see five meditation groups where people want to summon orbs 362 00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:38.400 and connect consciously or telepathically or whatever. And in congressional 363 00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:43.079 hearings they're talking about it being an interdimensional spiritual consciousness 364 00:21:43.160 --> 00:21:46.599 based phenomenon phenomenon, and even last week the Vice president 365 00:21:47.039 --> 00:21:53.640 tweeted or xed or whatever about the UFO phenomenon being 366 00:21:53.720 --> 00:21:59.200 angelic or demonic. So my whole point is I went 367 00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:02.920 from seeing this thing from a view that no one 368 00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:06.839 else in the world was getting, to witnessing this view 369 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:10.200 becoming the paradigm because of the incredible work of my 370 00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:14.160 father and my family because of the level of influence 371 00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:17.880 that we had behind the scenes, regularly communicating with the 372 00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:19.960 powers that be for the last twenty years and telling 373 00:22:20.039 --> 00:22:22.119 them over and over again, you're gonna lose, You're gonna lose. 374 00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:26.519 Your negative agenda's gonna lose, and time and time again 375 00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:29.839 with people from the CIA or the Department of Defense 376 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:33.359 or the Homeland Security or NASA or DoD or NRO 377 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:42.079 or DIA or CIA, whatever, Air Force Intelligence, Naval Intelligence, FBI, 378 00:22:42.920 --> 00:22:49.000 MASAD NSA. Did I say that one British Intelligence, Australian 379 00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:52.759 Intelligence OSS, even which is closed down, that's the precursor 380 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:58.559 to the CIA. On and on every one of these agencies, 381 00:22:58.680 --> 00:23:01.359 people have seen orbs with US, or have been in 382 00:23:01.359 --> 00:23:05.200 contact or communication with US, or have interrogated US or 383 00:23:05.240 --> 00:23:11.640 investigated US or asked US questions. You know, JPL forgot 384 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:14.240 to mention that one. It's an interesting one that I'm 385 00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:20.319 going to talk about today. It's jet propulsion laboratory. So 386 00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:24.359 we went from being mocked by the religious and the 387 00:23:24.680 --> 00:23:29.039 UFO community to quietly studying with all of these agencies 388 00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:32.759 for many years and influencing them behind the scenes, and 389 00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:36.759 witnessing this UFO paradigm sort of unfold behind the scenes 390 00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:39.599 from the epicenter as it was sprouting from the locus 391 00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:42.880 of us being in the direct center right to where 392 00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:47.119 now everybody knows orbs. It is an extremely popular word 393 00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:49.559 that has had millions and millions and millions of social 394 00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:51.680 media hits in the last three hundred and sixty five days, 395 00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:56.680 specifically starting last December, and at one point it was 396 00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:59.480 the most shadow band word in the world, to where 397 00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:04.440 they had to use different words to describe ORB. So 398 00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:06.839 my point is we've had a part to play in 399 00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:10.160 this and in the shaping of this phenomenon. So what 400 00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:13.039 is this phenomenon? I can talk to you all day 401 00:24:13.039 --> 00:24:16.160