Speaker 1: Hey guys, Princess here and welcome to another episode of
Speaker 1: By Pumpkin Original Flavor Edition. Hey, so this week we
Speaker 1: have Nadia on. She you guys, I have Nadia on
Speaker 1: plenty of times, so you guys all know what the
Speaker 1: deal is there. We do get off topic, like really
Speaker 1: get off topic like and obviously Naddy and I will
Speaker 1: never feel will never record anything. We're not talking about
Speaker 1: ray J, so of course we do. I think we
Speaker 1: talk about blue Face and Krashan. I think we talk
Speaker 1: about that time Kanye West said he thought he gave
Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian aids, Okay, that might be on topic, but
Speaker 1: this is gonna be one of those windy one episodes.
Speaker 1: So I hope you guys enjoy it. Until next time.
Speaker 2: Later.
Speaker 1: Hi, Nadia, Hi Princess, thank you for coming on the show.
Speaker 1: I know I text you out of nowhere. Do you
Speaker 1: want to talk about Courtney and Kim take New York?
Speaker 2: I do. I haven't watched this since it premiered. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because it aired.
Speaker 1: I didn't love the spinoffs.
Speaker 2: I liked Miami, like the first Miami season. I remember
Speaker 2: liking that.
Speaker 1: I can't believe the last Miami season because by the way,
Speaker 1: they do when they do Kim Courtney and Kim take Miami,
Speaker 1: they smush it in with the Courtney and Chloe take Miami.
Speaker 1: So like when you're looking forward to Hulu or Disney
Speaker 1: Plus or whatever, that's where it is. Because I had
Speaker 1: to find something there, and oh, I've been pulling clips.
Speaker 1: I pulled a clip from last week's episode where Kim
Speaker 1: was gonna punch Chris, and I pulled the clip because
Speaker 1: I'm doing a series of the case against Scott Dissick
Speaker 1: and I had to have a sip at a and
Speaker 1: so it was in that season and I forgot that.
Speaker 1: The last season in Miami, she found out she was
Speaker 1: pregnant with North.
Speaker 2: Oh wow r because she kind of starts dating Kanye, yeah,
Speaker 2: like pretty soon.
Speaker 1: But she doesn't she doesn't talk about.
Speaker 2: It, No, she doesn't. I think he appears in like
Speaker 2: one episode where she's in the studio.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I also think that, like I also think that,
Speaker 1: like as Kanye as has on one of his mini
Speaker 1: rants on a microphone somewhere, has said that they weren't
Speaker 1: really together when she got pregnant. They weren't like in
Speaker 1: a solid relationship mm hmm. And he thought it's that
Speaker 1: she was calling to say that he given her AIDS. What, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's when she he was doing a grant about how
Speaker 1: Kim thought about having an abortion, and apparently like, first
Speaker 1: of all, that's nobody's business, right, If Kim didn't want
Speaker 1: to talk about, why why are you talking about it?
Speaker 1: But also, I am not a person. I guess I
Speaker 1: just know too many unplanned people, including myself, And I'm
Speaker 1: just like, oh so your mom had a thought when
Speaker 1: she got working fight she was like, oh so what
Speaker 1: should I do? Like why are you so offended by that?
Speaker 2: That's not that big of a deal, isn't may it
Speaker 2: weird about that stuff? I really don't know why.
Speaker 1: I know, And I wouldn't even care if my mom
Speaker 1: was like, well, I was on our way to the abortion,
Speaker 1: because I mean, she didn't go in there, So what
Speaker 1: do we fucking met?
Speaker 2: Either I'm here or I'm not. It's really don't make no,
Speaker 2: never buy me.
Speaker 1: And if I'm not, I'm not offended.
Speaker 2: Because like I'm not, I don't exist.
Speaker 1: But anyway, he and I don't know if he was
Speaker 1: if he was like running first, I don't know what
Speaker 1: the fuck he was doing. But he was making a
Speaker 1: speech about how Kim I considered getting an abortion with
Speaker 1: North and that she'd called him and was like upset,
Speaker 1: and he just thought, oh no, did I give Kim
Speaker 1: Karashian aids like.
Speaker 2: I feel like leaks?
Speaker 1: Like hey, where did that come from from?
Speaker 2: Like what? Oh my god?
Speaker 1: Apparently they just weren't like either he was cheating on
Speaker 1: her or they just weren't like in a like a
Speaker 1: monogamous They were just chilling, you know what I mean
Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, And I just think that's so funny that,
Speaker 1: like when I think of Miami, I do not when
Speaker 1: I think of the Miami spinoffs. That's where she found
Speaker 1: out she was pregnant. M M. It's also punched a mirror.
Speaker 2: Oh we'll get to that one. Is that also the
Speaker 2: speech he gave when he said he should have dated
Speaker 2: Paris Hilton, And I'm like, I don't think you couldn't have.
Speaker 2: They don't.
Speaker 1: I think he could have had sex with her and
Speaker 1: they would have like went somewhere one time. But I
Speaker 1: don't know if they I don't know if she'd like
Speaker 1: seriously been like let's be together. No, she is a racist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think you know, thirty five percent
Speaker 2: of why they don't like Mauricio is because he's Jupich
Speaker 2: So you know, I don't see it for you in
Speaker 2: that way.
Speaker 1: That's why he could call him Maurice all the fucking time. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so this is this. This episode is season two, Episode
Speaker 1: two is called go Get Your Man. It is called
Speaker 1: that because remember Chris has left to go to Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you m M two questions? One, what
Speaker 1: is your favorite Kim Kardashian face? And too, I think
Speaker 1: of Chris Humphries.
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is low key the end of my
Speaker 2: favorite Kim era.
Speaker 1: I love Hi.
Speaker 2: It's Princess Kim Kardashian. Like at how like he got
Speaker 2: my new Bentley, Like that is my Kim. That's my
Speaker 2: Kim down. Chris Humphries is an enigma, wrapped in riddles,
Speaker 2: wrapped in quack cash. Question Martin, because I was.
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know how much gash yet.
Speaker 2: Because I looked him up because I'm like, oh, he's
Speaker 2: for sure married to some girl named Brittany. He's not.
Speaker 2: He's never been married.
Speaker 1: After this, I looked him up too. I was like,
Speaker 1: motherfucker doesn't have a baby somewhere. He doesn't have a creepy.
Speaker 2: He's creepy. I don't trust. Why doesn't he have a girl?
Speaker 1: A lot I don't know, And also like I feel
Speaker 1: like he would be a lot more low key than Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean anything's lokey to dating than marry Kim Kardashian, Okay,
Speaker 1: anything else, right, I.
Speaker 2: Would think it's like a girl named Brittany that he
Speaker 2: went to high school with and they live in Minnesota
Speaker 2: and they have three kids. When a guy is like
Speaker 2: weirdly conservative and like not really conservative, but like traditional
Speaker 2: and wanting to settle down, but he hasn't done it yet,
Speaker 2: I have questioned, right, because like there's always a girl
Speaker 2: who's willing for that, And if you're the man in
Speaker 2: that situation, by the nature of what you want, it's
Speaker 2: very easy to find that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't know, he's got to have a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: He's just not public or anything. He's got to have
Speaker 1: somebody that lives in that track house of his and
Speaker 1: just enjoys making sausage with him.
Speaker 2: He looks like a baby. He looks like they took
Speaker 2: a baby and they put it on the body of
Speaker 2: a basketball player, like a baby head.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel, like, what is saying, Leonardo DiCaprio
Speaker 1: always looks like to me, he looks like when when
Speaker 1: on Family Guy when they age Dewey up and they
Speaker 1: have a hawk in a like a man's body, but
Speaker 1: then they put like facial hair on him. That's what
Speaker 1: That's what Leo looks like to me at all times.
Speaker 2: Do you know. I've never been one that's been really
Speaker 2: attracted to Leonardo DiCaprio, So I don't really even look
Speaker 2: at him that much. I was just.
Speaker 1: I was just talking about Timothy shallow May because I
Speaker 1: was talking because on the wrap up episode this week.
Speaker 1: Last week, I did a I was talking about him
Speaker 1: getting dressed for Jordan Wood's his wedding. And the thing
Speaker 1: about Timothy is that he although he wasn't a teen idol,
Speaker 1: he got famous very in a young way when he
Speaker 1: was still in that androgynous like I said that, I
Speaker 1: said that he was. He had the type of face
Speaker 1: that if you were on Dragon Race and you're on
Speaker 1: the put put someone in your drag challenge, you'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: thank God, the makeup is gonna look good on him,
Speaker 1: like Hero.
Speaker 2: Twin. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It just it just like we can go either way
Speaker 1: with gender. I should call it gender is a construct
Speaker 1: face because we don't know what gender this is, and
Speaker 1: so we like, but you got to grow out of that,
Speaker 1: you know, like that's something that is in youth. And
Speaker 1: I was talking about Jonathan Taylor Thomas. I was talking
Speaker 1: about Leo DiCaprio, Like when he was young and hot,
Speaker 1: it was because he kind of looked like a girl.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, yeah, and you can't look like that forever.
Speaker 1: What happens is you grow up and you're like a
Speaker 1: fucking old man. Well a baby face on an old
Speaker 1: man's body. That's what you look like.
Speaker 2: Actually, the only person who can do it is little Fizz.
Speaker 3: Okay, but you have to be that's like you have
Speaker 3: to be in your stud era of androgyny Okay, that
Speaker 3: carries you through.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's right. So all right, so you
Speaker 1: might look like a little boy girl, right, yes, but
Speaker 1: when you get older, you got to move into the
Speaker 1: stud category.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. You have to be confident in that. Mm hm.
Speaker 1: You definitely have to get a bandana of some type
Speaker 1: and put it somewhere on your person.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and you've got to wear like white tennis shoes
Speaker 2: and chains. You also kind of start have to be
Speaker 2: stuck in the year two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: That's true, and you need to refer to yourself as
Speaker 1: a studspin like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: well to me, that's what you gotta do. Get to it, Okay.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we were just talking about how Chris. I
Speaker 1: was surprised too when I looked that up about Chris, I.
Speaker 2: Was like, oh, but here's the other thing. So I
Speaker 2: went to a very small school and because of that college,
Speaker 2: I got to be around athletes because the school was
Speaker 2: just so small, so you just like knew everybody. Basketball
Speaker 2: players are fucking weird. And I think it's because I
Speaker 2: have a theory. Their teams are smaller, they play a
Speaker 2: lot more games, and they and when they're growing up
Speaker 2: as a kid, they play that. If you have a
Speaker 2: child that plays basketball, they play basketball all the time.
Speaker 2: Like it's more than football. Like football, it's just because
Speaker 2: because you get hit, you can only play so much.
Speaker 2: They play it all the time. They are not around people,
Speaker 2: and they're tall as hell, so they're just like they're
Speaker 2: kind of weird.
Speaker 1: You can literally play basketball with just a hooping yourself.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's very solitary, and they get like very insular.
Speaker 2: I remember we would go to parties and the basketball
Speaker 2: players would stand in a circle and dance with each other,
Speaker 2: and there would be girls like trying to dance with them,
Speaker 2: and they'd be like, uhh, we're dancing with each other.
Speaker 2: Like that was a vibe, like it.
Speaker 1: Like were they were I don't even know what to
Speaker 1: call it, Like when they do the dance circle and
Speaker 1: someone's in the middle dancing or.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's how they dance, and they would block off
Speaker 2: and no women could get in. Now, football players, which
Speaker 2: is what I liked back in the day. They're fun.
Speaker 2: They're social because the team is big. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of people that hang out with bast what team is small.
Speaker 2: So they're just.
Speaker 1: Imagining these like six five motherfuckers just in a circle
Speaker 1: break dancing for each other. And just when you go
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, what's going on, they're like, ah close.
Speaker 2: Literally, they would turn girls away from parties if you
Speaker 2: were too big. They were nuts. Like so I always
Speaker 2: when I see basketball players, I'm like, they're weird. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, you have to be wary. Don't date a
Speaker 2: basketball player.
Speaker 1: Well, Also, Chris is twenty six in this and he's
Speaker 1: a very young twenty six. I would clock him close
Speaker 1: through the twenty to twenty two. Yeah, he seems very young.
Speaker 1: I feel like his family is pretty I mean, I'm just,
Speaker 1: I'm just, but I feel like he's his family is
Speaker 1: very like protective, like he's mostly he's mostly at home
Speaker 1: all the time. I don't get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was looking what rewatching the episode today and
Speaker 2: it seems like somebody put them together for like a
Speaker 2: group project in school, and they were like, Oh, we
Speaker 2: kind of like each other, so we're just gonna hook up.
Speaker 2: But they have no chemistry.
Speaker 1: No, they don't have any chemistry. I can't imagine them
Speaker 1: fucking no. Like and Karen and I talked about this
Speaker 1: last week that Kim is how she got her start
Speaker 1: being famous is a sex tape. But Kim does not
Speaker 1: give off sex fixen. I just she just does it
Speaker 1: not in her regular life. Sure, she'll do a lot
Speaker 1: of shoots with her ass out, but in terms of
Speaker 1: like is she gonna suck your dick? I don't think so,
Speaker 1: Like like on a top day, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think she did in the video. I've never seen
Speaker 2: the video, but I think she does in the video.
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's very well because I don't
Speaker 2: think that's her ride.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that track. She just seems like someone who I
Speaker 1: was gonna say a little drive, but I didn't mean
Speaker 1: it that way.
Speaker 2: I just like, I don't think she gets wild and crazy.
Speaker 1: No, she's very controlled about things, and so I can't
Speaker 1: imagine them having sex. I don't remember the meeting, Like
Speaker 1: I know that they must have met in the first
Speaker 1: season of Courtney and Kim Take New York, but I
Speaker 1: don't remember that, and I just don't I they have
Speaker 1: no chemistry whatsoever. So I posted a clip from last
Speaker 1: week's episode on Instagram and there's like a million comments
Speaker 1: and a lot of like and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is why I don't post some fucking like social media.
Speaker 1: This is too much. But one of the comments said
Speaker 1: that these two people were in completely different relationships. They
Speaker 1: were just going on at the same time in the
Speaker 1: same place, and I was like, yeah, yeah, that's exactly
Speaker 1: what happened. I struggle though, to figure out what Kim
Speaker 1: thought she was getting. Do you think it was just
Speaker 1: because Chloe Mary Lamar?
Speaker 2: Yes, I think she wanted to get married. I think
Speaker 2: she wanted to This is back when I was just
Speaker 2: thinking about this. This is people didn't want to just
Speaker 2: be known as like reality stars, and I think Tim
Speaker 2: was just very like grasping for like something. And I
Speaker 2: feel like getting married and getting a People magazine spread
Speaker 2: solidifies her celebrity. And I think she was just like,
Speaker 2: he'll do.
Speaker 1: You know, that's exactly what you want to think about
Speaker 1: your future husband, He'll do. I think she was just like, well,
Speaker 1: I do like black guys, so like okay, and he's
Speaker 1: like a quarter black. Well see, I don't think she
Speaker 1: really like that click to her.
Speaker 2: And I think when she was like, oh, this is
Speaker 2: not this is not Reggie Bush, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. I think this was a rebound
Speaker 1: from Reggie hard fucking core. I think think that I
Speaker 1: don't know how she feels now, but I think at
Speaker 1: the time Reggie was the one that got away.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean Reggie Bush is like my type down,
Speaker 2: so I get I get it. But I think she
Speaker 2: thought she was going to be like married to him,
Speaker 2: but he was like, I don't want a wife who's
Speaker 2: like famous for being.
Speaker 1: Yeah he had that, and then I think he was
Speaker 1: cheating on her.
Speaker 2: Of course they all cheat.
Speaker 1: And didn't he get married to someone who looks exactly
Speaker 1: like her, and the kid looks just like North.
Speaker 2: Yes he did. He absolutely. I don't think she looks
Speaker 2: like her because I've seen them sort of recently. I
Speaker 2: think she like had the same vibe as Kim, like
Speaker 2: the same look. So I think now that she's older,
Speaker 2: that's true. I think he had a type.
Speaker 1: Of course, I think he had a type too. The
Speaker 1: type was exotic, yeah, big air quotes in a bad
Speaker 1: block chiet, or as I call my husband, racially ambiguous.
Speaker 1: So I could be anything you want me to be.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, it was.
Speaker 1: Just giving me a bunch of shit about I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I'm just not black enough, which is I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: let him do that to me. I'm like, whatever, Oh,
Speaker 1: I have four black grandparents. I don't know what to
Speaker 1: say to you. But after he said that shit to me,
Speaker 1: he goes in a store, comes out, and he goes, oh,
Speaker 1: that guy just asked him I was Columbia and I
Speaker 1: was like really, I was like really, okay, uh huh,
Speaker 1: racially ambiguous. But yeah, that's that's his type in terms. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to go through this chronologically. Let's
Speaker 1: just talk about Kim and Chris, I do want to
Speaker 1: point out that when Jonathan and Simon are over there, okay,
Speaker 1: and they point to that super Bowl ring shit with.
Speaker 2: It is so ugly.
Speaker 1: I do not believe it so ugly. And it's just
Speaker 1: I don't know, it looks like she's wearing an oversized
Speaker 1: or ring. It just is ugly.
Speaker 2: It looks like she got it out of like one
Speaker 2: of those gumball like one of those like machines.
Speaker 1: It looks like she got an old Navy in the
Speaker 1: jewelry section.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's like comically large.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and but I was looking at Chloe's ring too,
Speaker 1: same fucking thing.
Speaker 2: But that was the era when the girls were getting
Speaker 2: big ass engagement rings so ugly, it was like how
Speaker 2: big can it be?
Speaker 1: I know she doesn't still have it. I think she
Speaker 1: had to give it to him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you Yeah, I think you're supposed to
Speaker 2: get when you get divorced, you have to get the
Speaker 2: ring back.
Speaker 1: I do. I think that's just during the fiance, like
Speaker 1: when you guys. I don't think you have to give
Speaker 1: it back when she get married. I think he wanted
Speaker 1: it back, like he was like, no, give it back
Speaker 1: to the back.
Speaker 2: I probably something I mean it was something he probably
Speaker 2: sold it probably, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, but I would have too, like, what do you
Speaker 1: want me to keep it?
Speaker 2: Like no, and it is ugly. It is ugly, ugly, ugly.
Speaker 1: So I mean a lot of what Kim is doing
Speaker 1: in this show is ugly. Like there was a top
Speaker 1: she had on. I was like, would you borrow that from?
Speaker 2: M Jay?
Speaker 1: What'd you get that from?
Speaker 2: They are so all of their makeup is really bad,
Speaker 2: and it really goes to show how beautiful Kim is
Speaker 2: that she man still looks beautiful because it's like the
Speaker 2: translucent powder is like on their face so heavy, and
Speaker 2: they have the worst lipstick colors I have ever seen
Speaker 2: in my life.
Speaker 1: I was actually talking about this because I was talking
Speaker 1: about how and maybe I was talking to you about
Speaker 1: how Chloe has always been the ugly sister. I didn't
Speaker 1: say she was ugly. I'm saying that Courtney's actually quite beautiful.
Speaker 1: But Kim has been beautiful since the day she was born. Yes,
Speaker 1: and I'm not like I think some people would dispute that,
Speaker 1: but I'm not like growing up in the nineties, Oh,
Speaker 1: she's be fifty in the nineties in Calabasses, being racially ambiguous.
Speaker 1: I promise you Kim was beautiful.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sure people told her that all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she is really pretty and like, but and
Speaker 1: then Courtney come, I mean good Courtney, Chloe comes. Chloe
Speaker 1: is not the petite little thing that these two are.
Speaker 1: She's always been the ugly sister, just has been, and
Speaker 1: that probably contributes to a lot of stuff that fucking
Speaker 1: happens that I think she's still dealing with to this day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why she looks like somebody put like she
Speaker 2: looks like a lollipop, Like she's got a huge headed
Speaker 2: kind of body, and it's because she's like trapped in
Speaker 2: this body just more thick, like crazy thing. But she's
Speaker 2: someone I don't blame her because I can't imagine it
Speaker 2: was very easy.
Speaker 1: Not at all, being the way she is, not at all.
Speaker 1: And and you know it's her sad like as you explained,
Speaker 1: like what she looks like now, I think she looks
Speaker 1: the best she's ever looked. And that's like those two
Speaker 1: things are actually competing ideas and they're they're both true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the harsh reality of it all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she looks great, and but she had to do
Speaker 1: all that. I mean, really, she went on quote unquote
Speaker 1: revenge body like that. That's her journey after Lamar.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Oh did you see that she has a
Speaker 2: new show on.
Speaker 1: Hulu about the girls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, oh, snooze.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw. I saw some sat talker talking about it,
Speaker 1: and they scrapped all of the talking hits from the
Speaker 1: stat from that staff, from the cast, and Chloe's doing
Speaker 1: the talking heads. It's like, she's not even a fucking show.
Speaker 1: What are y'all doing?
Speaker 2: That is so weird. That's weird, right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: In theory, I thought it might be something, but I
Speaker 1: can tell it's not anything.
Speaker 2: No, No, I think maybe she's doesn't want the girls
Speaker 2: to like talk about each other in the talking heads.
Speaker 1: Well, reality TV is about conflict and resolution. She knows that.
Speaker 1: She's been on reality TV for fucking twenty years, So
Speaker 1: I don't know why she doesn't understand that. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe something happened and Melika and Melika the
Speaker 1: other one is oh, because I don't never happen. It's
Speaker 1: Melika and the other Melika. Somebody else calls them the Melikas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but those are actual her friends. Those are legitimately her
Speaker 1: friends and yes, so uh maybe that's part of it.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Okay, So we were talking about the
Speaker 1: big ring. We were talking about how everyone's like, okay,
Speaker 1: so he's in Minnesota. He's there to train NBA lockout,
Speaker 1: a thing I forgot completely ever existed and oh me too,
Speaker 1: Like that shit went straight up my of my mind,
Speaker 1: No need to keep that there. And he is like
Speaker 1: in between seasons, he trains in Minnesota. That's where he's from,
Speaker 1: and so that's where he went. Also because they foolishly,
Speaker 1: and I think it was for the show, but it
Speaker 1: was still stupid have decided to live in a suite
Speaker 1: with Scott Courtney and a baby.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's like hellish why.
Speaker 1: It's pretty big, but they need it too, and like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the entire They had the entire film crew.
Speaker 2: I know, there's makeup artists, there is a personal assistance.
Speaker 2: Like there's probably a million people in that suite.
Speaker 1: I know. And I just don't understand why they did that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I do understand it's for the show, but
Speaker 1: pretending like there's not a show here. You guys have
Speaker 1: never lived together, so you're gonna go live in a
Speaker 1: hotel with your sister and her baby and her yeah,
Speaker 1: and her alcoholic situationship. Yeah, that's ridiculous. So everyone says
Speaker 1: that's weird. I had a long distance marriage at one point.
Speaker 1: It was because I went to go visit a friend
Speaker 1: in Chicago while we lived in New York, and I
Speaker 1: called my husband said I live over here now, so.
Speaker 2: I love Chicago. I don't blame me.
Speaker 1: I love Chicago. It was such a great city. And
Speaker 1: so we were a long distance for a little bit
Speaker 1: and then he and I was like, if you want
Speaker 1: to stay married, you got to move to Chicago. And
Speaker 1: he moved to Chicago, and after we've been there for
Speaker 1: like a year and a half, he hated Chicago by
Speaker 1: the way.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: He went to go visit his mother in New York
Speaker 1: and then called me and was like, I live in
Speaker 1: New York now, so I don't have to tell you.
Speaker 1: I think that's you and that I well, actually I
Speaker 1: think he only held out for like four months and
Speaker 1: I held out for over a year. And so, but
Speaker 1: everyone said the same shit that they were saying to
Speaker 1: Cam and Chris and that, like, you can't have a
Speaker 1: long distance marriage, not for no reason, no.
Speaker 2: Date, because how do you get to know each other
Speaker 2: or anything.
Speaker 1: Because they don't really know each other either, no at all.
Speaker 1: That said, I have always thought I'd make an excellent
Speaker 1: military wife because I'm cool with you be gone for
Speaker 1: two years, so I'll talk to you later. And I
Speaker 1: think that in this particular case, Kim would have thrived
Speaker 1: if he was located in New York and she was
Speaker 1: stationed in LA I think she would. I think that
Speaker 1: marriage would have lasted longer because I think that's how
Speaker 1: their courtship went. And I think that she does not
Speaker 1: realize or remember she does because she said she figured
Speaker 1: out on the honeymoon that this marriage was gonna work.
Speaker 1: I think that she is not quite ready to admit
Speaker 1: that she does not like him. And I don't think
Speaker 1: he really likes her.
Speaker 2: No, they they don't. They have nothing between them. It's
Speaker 2: not even hate.
Speaker 1: There's like nothing, yeah, yeah and there. But they're just
Speaker 1: so opposite m h. And also he is entirely too
Speaker 1: fucking dig He's huge.
Speaker 2: When he literally picked her up and throw her, I'm like,
Speaker 2: you're about to launch her across.
Speaker 1: But she loves that.
Speaker 2: She does love it.
Speaker 1: She loves it. She is a Sheena Sey. She just
Speaker 1: wants someone to do the dirty dancing lift with her.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. She she likes a big man, which
Speaker 2: is why she hated athletes for so long.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and then she hit Then she went to Kanye.
Speaker 1: And I just can't imagine that this Kim that we're
Speaker 1: seeing here in this relationship was in a relationship with
Speaker 1: Kanye West.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, she's she's like an alien. She's like
Speaker 2: the whole time she was in Minnesota, I was like,
Speaker 2: this woman doesn't belong here. Wow, she cannot be in Minnesota, like.
Speaker 1: She did like commercial and he did pick her up
Speaker 1: like right where they pick up this girl. And I
Speaker 1: was say, oh, Kim, I forgot you, Like.
Speaker 2: But it like freak. I was like, what is she
Speaker 2: doing here? Like I was, I was like, this doesn't
Speaker 2: go This doesn't matches. Is she going to live here
Speaker 2: and like go to the Krogers?
Speaker 1: Like is she going to go to a local mall?
Speaker 2: No, she's not. Is she going to talk to like,
Speaker 2: god forbid, Chris's family and like go to a barbecue?
Speaker 1: Is she going to open the door and there'd be
Speaker 1: children out there asking for an autograph?
Speaker 2: What the fuck was that she gonna She's gonna go
Speaker 2: to the PTA meeting, Like, what the hell is she
Speaker 2: going to do a.
Speaker 1: Minnesota And also she has We can sail our things
Speaker 1: about the Kardashians, but they do have a family culture.
Speaker 1: They are a family that spends an incredible amount of
Speaker 1: time with each other and always have. I do not
Speaker 1: believe that she could have even if she wanted to,
Speaker 1: that she could have like gone there and been away
Speaker 1: from her family. Now. Chloe, on the other hand, has
Speaker 1: been doing that and was it planning to do that
Speaker 1: for fucking Chris or Tristan right when she thinks lewis
Speaker 1: wherever the fuck he was.
Speaker 2: At, she was because she is so like, let's talk
Speaker 2: about male center. She is dick obsessed. So I think
Speaker 2: she would maybe do anything for man.
Speaker 1: I think so too, But I think that's growing up
Speaker 1: being the ugly sister.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: That's what that is. Yeah, she like she's the one
Speaker 1: that's like, Kim, you need to go get your man.
Speaker 1: I think that's what it was named after, like your man.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And by the way, Cloe Money is my least
Speaker 1: favorite Chloe. I don't like the money.
Speaker 2: Is this her clothe money era?
Speaker 1: It's her clone money Eras you walk in everyone yell
Speaker 1: clothe money.
Speaker 2: I don't like that either.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no, She's like, what did she say? Oh,
Speaker 1: I stopped working a lot to support Lamar, to chase
Speaker 1: Lamar around with his crackpipe. Guys, that's what she was doing.
Speaker 1: And she's like, if you have a couple of days off, Kim,
Speaker 1: you need to be in Minnesota. You need to do
Speaker 1: it because like that's your husband.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a life of a wife. She's yandy like
Speaker 2: this in this episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like, here it is the wife is here.
Speaker 2: Listen. If Chloe and Lamar were not as famous, they
Speaker 2: would be walking around the mall with King and Queen
Speaker 2: matching T shirt.
Speaker 1: And you know it, they would have I remember, I
Speaker 1: will never forget I was actually living in New York.
Speaker 1: I was actually living in Queens when Lamar brought Chloe
Speaker 1: to Jamaica, av which is not It's like she took
Speaker 1: a spotty area and that's where they would have got
Speaker 1: their T shirts. Someone want to make surence for them,
Speaker 1: they said, King and Queen. They and also if they
Speaker 1: weren't famous, actually not, even if they weren't famous, Chloe
Speaker 1: would still be with Lamar. She said that someone because
Speaker 1: I watched the doc I did an episode on it.
Speaker 1: She said that someone gave her the advice that they
Speaker 1: need to do an intervention and that she needs to
Speaker 1: tell him that if he's not gonna stop doing drugs,
Speaker 1: she's gonna divorce him. He's when she said it, he
Speaker 1: was like, cool, give me my passportum out Like he didn't.
Speaker 1: She didn't even leave him. He left her.
Speaker 2: I would have never told nobody that.
Speaker 1: I would have never I would have spinned that story
Speaker 1: to where I was like at the intervention, I love
Speaker 1: know I was leaving him. I would never tell him that,
Speaker 1: tell people that I that that man high on fucking
Speaker 1: crack on a three day bender broke up with me.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: No, I would have gotten back together with him. To
Speaker 2: break up with him, oh absolutely, the last laugh.
Speaker 1: There's no fucking way. And so I think Chloe would
Speaker 1: still be with Lamar in a lot of ways. She
Speaker 1: loved him, Yeah, she loved him, and they've talked baby
Speaker 1: talked to him and call each other lammy and she
Speaker 1: just and he was big enough that she felt like
Speaker 1: a little a little baby with him. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's nice. But yeah, like but at this moment, Chloe
Speaker 1: it got married first, and if anybody recalls, I watch,
Speaker 1: I remember watching, and I remember Kim was spinning the
Speaker 1: fuck out. Yeah, she was like, lamar so tall, why
Speaker 1: would you even Then she's running around this dude, and
Speaker 1: she's like, she's like, you know, since I have everything
Speaker 1: for my wedding, Chloe can use it. Since I'm never
Speaker 1: going to use it, she was spinning the fuck out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like Kim gets randomly like traditional like with
Speaker 2: stuff like that in such a weird way.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: I think, what uh, Courtney says, they're very competitive with
Speaker 2: each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. I I also I think here's
Speaker 1: the thing. When Courtney got married and she said that
Speaker 1: Kim wasn't happy for her, I believe that. I don't
Speaker 1: think anything would do with Travis Barker. I people put
Speaker 1: too much on that these girls love to share dick.
Speaker 1: They passed Bieber around games, they did all of them.
Speaker 1: He was passed from person to person. He was a
Speaker 1: pass around baby. And Game has had sex with both
Speaker 1: Chloe and Kim.
Speaker 2: Oh god not y.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Kim at least sucked Travis's dick at
Speaker 1: the very least, and like they don't care about that
Speaker 1: I don't know why people keep like they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's nobody's jealous. Guys, they will they will share a man.
Speaker 1: They actually will do. Like half the people Kendall has
Speaker 1: has dated have been I think Courtney has showed up
Speaker 1: with like it's yeah, they don't give a fuck. So,
Speaker 1: but what I think when Clo married Lamar and when
Speaker 1: Courtney married Travis, I don't think Kim cared about the
Speaker 1: person they were married. I think Kim was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm single, yeah, and she's not in love. And I
Speaker 1: don't even know if she wanted to get married that day,
Speaker 1: but I think that she wanted to be in love,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I believe she wasn't happy for Also, Courtney,
Speaker 1: I don't like none of her dresses is like any
Speaker 1: of that. I was like, oh no to all of this.
Speaker 1: So I also think Kim was like, literally like this
Speaker 1: is ugly. I think that was also what was happening.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So, but Chloe has something to hang over
Speaker 1: her in a lot of ways. Also, although we all
Speaker 1: know what Lamar was doing, no none of the public
Speaker 1: knew except for the people who cleaned his hotel room.
Speaker 1: She said, you'd have to go clean the rooms so
Speaker 1: they wouldn't tell stories about him. I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, oh god, that he got you cleaning up
Speaker 1: fucking hotel rooms. Girl again, why are you telling us this?
Speaker 1: Shut up?
Speaker 2: And you know, he like was in the Big Brother
Speaker 2: house shitting on himself, so who knows.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't watch Big Brother. He was
Speaker 1: shitting on himself in there.
Speaker 2: I don't want you either. But that was the news.
Speaker 2: That was a word on the curb that he would
Speaker 2: like he's lactose intolerant, but he would drink milk at
Speaker 2: night before he went to bed. Why I don't disturbed,
Speaker 2: he's disturbed.
Speaker 1: Lactose intolerant people and people to wear glasses are two
Speaker 1: groups of people that will just deny their disability. That
Speaker 1: would just be like, no, I don't eat these glasses.
Speaker 1: Oh actually I'll have some ice cream. Like they don't
Speaker 1: give a fuck.
Speaker 2: They don't, they don't.
Speaker 1: They just pretend they're not and just keep doing it
Speaker 1: so you shit them. Okay. Cool. I also think that
Speaker 1: so Kim marries Chris, Chris is the family doesn't like him, right,
Speaker 1: He's not a broken bird like all the other men are.
Speaker 2: I was literally just thinking about that all the men
Speaker 2: they get have like some sort of sad family problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think Chris's mom is still alive, Kanye's
Speaker 1: mom was dead, Lamar's mom was dead. The reasons Scott's
Speaker 1: all around because his mama died, Like yep, Christ's mama died.
Speaker 1: I honest to God believe Travis lost his momm when
Speaker 1: he was like thirteen years old, like two days before
Speaker 1: high school started. Like I honestly think Chris had too
Speaker 1: much of a family or at the work there. I
Speaker 1: don't think he slid into the family the way everyone
Speaker 1: else did. And I think that's part of why none
Speaker 1: of them.
Speaker 2: Went right right, Because they want people to be part
Speaker 2: of their family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, they want people to be a part of
Speaker 1: their family. And they're addicted to men who need like mommies,
Speaker 1: who need mommies. They love that they are codependent queens. Yes,
Speaker 1: with Casey. They love to like take in a man
Speaker 1: and just take care of everything and be responsible for
Speaker 1: his feelings and his thoughts and everything. And I also
Speaker 1: think Chris resisted that in a way, Like I think
Speaker 1: like if Lamar were his side of his closet was dirty,
Speaker 1: Chloe would just organize it and Lamar would be like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is nice. He wouldn't be like, don't touch my stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's Chris would be like, I have my
Speaker 2: stuff the way I want it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not cleaning up right now. I'm not really
Speaker 1: my stuff where it is. I think that that's part
Speaker 1: of the fact that he comes from a family unit,
Speaker 1: and also he has roots in Minnesota. So when he
Speaker 1: goes to Minnesota the train and she follows him there
Speaker 1: because everyone told her to, she like, he's comfortable there.
Speaker 1: That's where he lives. Whatever apartment he had in New
Speaker 1: York when he was playing for Brooklyn or whatever, that's
Speaker 1: not where he lives. He lives in Minnesota, right right.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think she realized that.
Speaker 2: I don't think she realized anything about him. I think
Speaker 2: she's like, well, why would you want to live in
Speaker 2: Minnesota where you can.
Speaker 1: Live in LA And he's like, I was bored here
Speaker 1: and I grew up here and this is.
Speaker 2: Where and she's like why does that matter?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well does that matter? He's like, I literally have
Speaker 1: a Minnesota in like driver's license. What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: I can kind of understand that she just wanted to
Speaker 2: get married but I'm like, what is she getting out
Speaker 2: of this?
Speaker 1: I think the same thing that Kanye. Kanye was obsessed
Speaker 1: with her because he's like a porn addict. But I
Speaker 1: think he thought he was getting like Princess.
Speaker 2: Kim Yeah right, yeah, and then she's like a person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like a person that that is using her
Speaker 1: baby voice, Like that's not her real fucking voice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you're talking to her at eleven PM, I bet
Speaker 1: you that's she's like, hey, wait a a second, where
Speaker 1: did Princess Kevin go?
Speaker 2: Yeah, whereas like, yeah, I'm looking at you with her
Speaker 2: like giant.
Speaker 1: Eyes, giant eyes and giant eyelashes. Just yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that you didn't realize that. So she gets there in
Speaker 1: his perfectly normal house. There's nothing wrong with this house.
Speaker 1: Eighty percent of the world lives in a house like that. Yes,
Speaker 1: and she's cooking and stuff. I don't understand why she
Speaker 1: would get Italian sausage and cut off the sausage skins.
Speaker 1: You can just get ground Italian sausage. What is that.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what they were doing. They were making
Speaker 2: a mess, they were playing around. I wouldn't want him
Speaker 2: to cook me nothing. I don't wantn't want to make
Speaker 2: her peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
Speaker 1: I don't think Kim is like that. I do think
Speaker 1: like Courtney and uh, Chloe cooked quite a bit. I
Speaker 1: do not think. I'm not letting Kylie cook me nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm not letting Kendle cook me shit.
Speaker 2: No, well she doesn't eat. I'm not for me.
Speaker 1: I would let Caitlyn cook me shit and not a
Speaker 1: one of these motherfuckers. I think Chris cooks. I think
Speaker 1: Chris cooks because she had such a big family. They
Speaker 1: did like big holidays. This is before she had enough
Speaker 1: money to pay a bunch of people, you know, right,
Speaker 1: I think she actually yeah yeah, and they made a
Speaker 1: lot of Armenian food.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: She had to learn how to do that. And because
Speaker 1: she had to pretend she was Armenian, Like you know,
Speaker 1: she was pretending because it was easy pretending. Oh. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you heard last week's episode, but I
Speaker 1: want to ask you a question.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I have no information and no evidence, but I believe
Speaker 1: that Chris after she was married to Caitlin, definitely fucked
Speaker 1: Rob again. Oh yeah, because he's paying her name mame
Speaker 1: Marcus card. He's giving them money for rent. I think
Speaker 1: she fucked him a few times. I don't think Caitlyn knew,
Speaker 1: and I think that's part of the way that that's
Speaker 1: part of the reason everything was so blended, and that
Speaker 1: that ruined these girls' lives because they're all running around
Speaker 1: in here letting a Tristan and a Scott like just
Speaker 1: show up all the time because they think that's how
Speaker 1: you're supposed to do it. And what they don't know
Speaker 1: is that their mother was fucking their father for a
Speaker 1: lot longer than they thought.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I have also have no evidence, but I could
Speaker 2: see that because I do think Chris Chris Jenner, I
Speaker 2: do think she's I think she's Wilie like. I think
Speaker 2: she's always up to something, and I don't think she
Speaker 2: makes the best decisions.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read her whole memoir. I'm gonna read her
Speaker 1: memoir at some point, But the parts I have seen,
Speaker 1: she basically was like busting and open on the tennis
Speaker 1: court outside their heart, on the stairs, in the bed
Speaker 1: she shared when Robert her kids were watching TV downstairs
Speaker 1: like she was. She don't she got that freaking her. Okay,
Speaker 1: she'll do what needs to be done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally see that with her. I think she
Speaker 2: was probably the definition of like a Ford housewife.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh she was Gabrielle on a fucking uh yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean absolutely her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I did, I just I And I think
Speaker 1: that's how they got all these broken birds and they
Speaker 1: and I mean the truth was, Caitlyn was a broken
Speaker 1: bird when she found her.
Speaker 2: She was not not a dollar or a dime.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's strange for her children still still and so
Speaker 1: she what she did was she gave Caitlyn a career,
Speaker 1: She gave Caitlyn a family. She and she made Caitlyn
Speaker 1: famous again irrelevant again in a lot of ways. And
Speaker 1: I don't think people talk about that enough, that Caitlyn
Speaker 1: was also a broken bird.
Speaker 2: I mean, at Caitlyn not married Chris. I mean, not
Speaker 2: only would we not be talking about her, she wouldn't
Speaker 2: have that Malibu.
Speaker 1: You mean, the house in albu that she killed someone
Speaker 1: on the way to.
Speaker 2: Why have so many celebrities killed people in the car.
Speaker 1: We were thinking about Brandy immediately, Brandy.
Speaker 2: About Brandy, of course.
Speaker 1: Brandy, and and and we need to be clear, Brandy
Speaker 1: did not run over the killed the lady. It was
Speaker 1: a car piloup she was just in it, and they
Speaker 1: she was a part of the car pile up, and
Speaker 1: they sued her because she'd only went over there with
Speaker 1: some money but still being involved in killing a lady
Speaker 1: with a car knocking out that boys, I immature, You're
Speaker 1: really started the East Coast West Coast War, like because
Speaker 1: do you know that story?
Speaker 2: No? I, but that doesn't surprise.
Speaker 1: Ray J is the one that told he was running
Speaker 1: around studios and stuff. Ray J is the one that
Speaker 1: told Biggie that he saw fate in Tupac together.
Speaker 2: Why the hell would you believe anything that ray J
Speaker 2: said to you. I don't like this is why I
Speaker 2: don't like baby.
Speaker 1: Small, This is this is this is this. He started
Speaker 1: the East Coast West Coast War. If Whitney was alive,
Speaker 1: she might have had a surrogate baby with ray J.
Speaker 1: She might get married to ra j A right now?
Speaker 2: What is his appeal?
Speaker 1: I think he is charismatic, but I've gotta have him
Speaker 1: in small doses, Like once you live with him, he's
Speaker 1: pulling a gun out on you on Live. You're like,
Speaker 1: wait a second, But if you just if you just
Speaker 1: hang with him for like a half a day, he's
Speaker 1: probably super fucking fun and funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he's like the he's like Bart Simpson and
Speaker 2: he's like the ultimate brother.
Speaker 1: He's like Bart Simpson. And you know what I bet
Speaker 1: for Whitney. He she he reminded her of a young
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown.
Speaker 2: I bet you yeah, yeah, yeah, I have an uncle
Speaker 2: that not to the level of insanity violence of ray J,
Speaker 2: but I have the uncle that is has a similar vibe.
Speaker 2: And you know he has to be Gibby Mama, So
Speaker 2: there's something going on with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's he's got the gift of gab.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I think think back to when he I think
Speaker 1: I don't know what show it was, but Speedy was
Speaker 1: the host or whatever, and he goes a phone or something, Oh, glasses,
Speaker 1: this unbreakable and then yes, he said, go ahead, try
Speaker 1: break them, and the guy Speedy like breaks them. And
Speaker 1: then ray J Munion says, I don't care, he's just oh,
Speaker 1: he reminds me of Soldier Boy in that way and
Speaker 1: that like he's here comedy gold if.
Speaker 2: You can give him in an interview, yes, but I
Speaker 2: would not want to be with him for more than
Speaker 2: maybe fifteen minutes like that.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you're absolutely, like like like he's
Speaker 1: like a werewolf as the son. You're like, actually, I
Speaker 1: gotta go, have to go. I know a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff about.
Speaker 2: That, because you know he's about to drink like Don
Speaker 2: Julio or something.
Speaker 1: He's literally got the coke out and he's like you're
Speaker 1: about the start party and babe about to get wild
Speaker 1: up in here. And I'm like, right now, yeah, why
Speaker 1: are we talking? Oh people killing people? Yeah, you're right. Uh,
Speaker 1: Caitlyn would not have had that Malibu house. Caitlyn would
Speaker 1: not have had the funds to transition the way that
Speaker 1: she did. Uh. I don't think people realize how expensive
Speaker 1: gender affirming care is hugely expensive, and although you can
Speaker 1: be trans without physically transitioning, you could be a trans woman.
Speaker 1: I think that Caitlin is very conservative and Caitlyn would
Speaker 1: not consider herself trans unless she actually went through it
Speaker 1: with the surgery, Like I think Caitlyn, and please, I
Speaker 1: have no evidence of this. It's just a vibe I
Speaker 1: get off. Caitlin is one of those people that is like,
Speaker 1: are you trans woman? If you don't, if you can't
Speaker 1: pass as one, passing is really important to Caitlin.
Speaker 2: Probably, Yeah, I remember that show and she had horrible politics.
Speaker 2: And the women on the show were like, some people
Speaker 2: have to do sex work because they that's how they survive.
Speaker 2: And Caitlin was like, I don't get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, yeah I did I think, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: So they start arguing in Minnesota. Basically, he says that
Speaker 1: I wish you were like Chloe. She rides for her
Speaker 1: man and if you were down, is down like half
Speaker 1: as much as she is for Lamar. He doesn't finish
Speaker 1: the sentence, and she like starts to get mad.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The thing is Chloe does not have the career that
Speaker 1: Kim hass right. They I don't want her to host
Speaker 1: nightclubs as much as they want Kim to.
Speaker 2: No, and they're not paying as much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's probably third choice. And I think Courtney just
Speaker 1: doesn't want to do it.
Speaker 2: Courtney do the won't do anything.
Speaker 1: Courtney doesn't want to do anything. We'll talk about Courtney.
Speaker 1: So they get into this argument and then they just
Speaker 1: kind of like come back together. They're like, I do
Speaker 1: love you, And he's gonna move back to New York.
Speaker 1: His trainer's gonna go there. I mean, that's the end
Speaker 1: of that. I mean, I wish Kim had not gone
Speaker 1: there to get him, because I think they might have
Speaker 1: been married a little bit longer if she did not
Speaker 1: see him every day.
Speaker 2: Well, it seems like they both were kind of content
Speaker 2: with not being around each other. But I think they
Speaker 2: were like, well, it is weird.
Speaker 1: Every problem, Like his family was like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: you're just not But I also think that people act
Speaker 1: as if Kim is not doing anything New York and
Speaker 1: she's actually working. It's just hard to imagine it because
Speaker 1: the show doesn't. Like now the shows that their own
Speaker 1: are like, they'll they'll tell you. They'll be like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's signing this, Oh she has to do that. Like,
Speaker 1: but on this show, unless they're doing an appearance or
Speaker 1: actually going to a store something, they don't talk about
Speaker 1: the fact that being a reality TV star is like
Speaker 1: kind of an all day everythingy job.
Speaker 2: Right, She's doing a ton of stuff all day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like she's and she's purposely being packed like this,
Speaker 1: that's part of her job. Call paparazzi on herself and
Speaker 1: walk down the street. That's literally part of her.
Speaker 2: Job, right. Right. It's not hard work, but it is
Speaker 2: still work in the sense of you have it's something
Speaker 2: that you have to do at a certain time, in
Speaker 2: a certain place, and do it in a certain way.
Speaker 1: And this is pre vlogging. I mean, hmm, yeah to
Speaker 1: a certain extent. It's it's pre like you can live
Speaker 1: in Minnesota and have a social media career.
Speaker 2: Right, She's got to be at at MTV. She's got
Speaker 2: to be there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's got to be at the nightclub. She's got
Speaker 1: to be photographed at the restaurant. She's got to be there.
Speaker 1: And I think that Chris and probably his family probably
Speaker 1: don't understand that. So it seems like Kim's just chilling
Speaker 1: in New York as opposed to, like, as opposed to
Speaker 1: coming to visit him in Minnesota. And I don't think
Speaker 1: she's chilling like that all the time.
Speaker 2: No, I think she's like answering emails and like this
Speaker 2: is before people were really on video call, so she
Speaker 2: probably had a lot of meetings in person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she probably did. Yeah, she actually mentions working eighteen
Speaker 1: hour days when the let's talk about the little spat
Speaker 1: her and Chloe got into. Chloe Chloe Money's in town.
Speaker 1: They're about to go to Hampton's and she says goodbye
Speaker 1: to Kim because Kim's gonna fly out. She goes in
Speaker 1: there and the first thing she says is, wow, you
Speaker 1: got a deep tail, and you're blacker than Chris right now.
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, First of all, Chris is
Speaker 1: not very black, so I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 2: But Chloe's always skirting that line.
Speaker 1: It's just remember when her and the Malika's were were
Speaker 1: going to some party and she was like a pimp
Speaker 1: and they were her her hers. It was a war party,
Speaker 1: I think, and they were on they were on leashes,
Speaker 1: and it was also making Good. It was Megan Good,
Speaker 1: It was Malika and Megan. Oh it was three of them.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Megan Good is a bird anyway, so
Speaker 1: I don't care, like that is the birdiest bird, Like
Speaker 1: she owns the guies.
Speaker 2: She is. Me and my mama were just talking about her. Well.
Speaker 1: I saw a TikTok video of a woman that said
Speaker 1: she knew she she was basically clowning herself. That said
Speaker 1: that she did an online degree for her ex like
Speaker 1: the whole thing. And yeah, she did the whole she
Speaker 1: did his entire degree. No, people were calling her a
Speaker 1: bird all. They're like, you know, you wrong for this shit.
Speaker 1: That is crazy, and I still think Megan Good is
Speaker 1: a bigger bird than her.
Speaker 2: I mean, she's doing every random Lifetime movie that she
Speaker 2: can to. I guess keep Jonathan Majors in neckties. Like,
Speaker 2: I just don't believe in doing all that. And I
Speaker 2: was telling Princess earlier about somebody at my job making
Speaker 2: their lunch for their husband or their not even their husband,
Speaker 2: their damn boyfriend before they go to work. I just
Speaker 2: I'm like, maybe that's why I don't have a man,
Speaker 2: because I can't do that.
Speaker 1: Guys, I have a man. I don't do that. I
Speaker 1: don't do stuff like that. I've been posed to a
Speaker 1: bunch of times. I don't do stuff like that, and
Speaker 1: that's not my thing.
Speaker 2: Sorry, No, I just can't. You're gonna have to make
Speaker 2: do with yourself. Twitter.
Speaker 1: You're never gonna see a video with me. It says,
Speaker 1: get ready with me to wake up at three o'clock
Speaker 1: in the morning to make my man a lunche No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm asleep. Yes, I don't get up at work at
Speaker 1: four o'clock in the morning. What the fuck are you
Speaker 1: talking about?
Speaker 2: No? No, The most I'll do is like hand you
Speaker 2: a cup of coffee. And that's to be cute.
Speaker 1: I don't drink coffee, so I don't even know how
Speaker 1: to make it. I don't know. I don't know what
Speaker 1: they do over there with that machine. I don't know
Speaker 1: what is happening. Coffee tastes like ask to me. I
Speaker 1: don't know what y'all are doing. I have no idea,
Speaker 1: but yeah, what I will do is the night before,
Speaker 1: after dinner, I will throw those left overs in a
Speaker 1: tupperware thing because I can't leave it out it's bacteria,
Speaker 1: and I'll put it out a fridge and you can
Speaker 1: grab that bad boy on your way out the house
Speaker 1: in the morning. That is the most that I can
Speaker 1: do because I don't know. I just wasn't raised to
Speaker 1: make a man of lunch.
Speaker 2: I just know me either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And if I could give anybody out there a
Speaker 1: piece of advice that it's contrary to what Chloe Money
Speaker 1: would tell you, is that when you come in someone's life,
Speaker 1: a man, a woman, whoever, you're fucking whatever, you make
Speaker 1: their life better, not easier. When I say better, you
Speaker 1: give it's fun, you're loving, You're showing them things that
Speaker 1: they've never done before. But they still got to do
Speaker 1: their own fucking laundry, like, you can't come here to clean?
Speaker 2: No, no, don't. I don't like a man asking me
Speaker 2: for stuff. I don't like that. I don't.
Speaker 1: I know labor diggers. They all are anyway, So Chloe's upset.
Speaker 1: Chloe comes in, Kim is living. She's like, I just
Speaker 1: worked eighteen hours. Get the fuck out of here. I
Speaker 1: don't I have one hour to go. She's so pissed.
Speaker 1: And I think also part of it is the cameras
Speaker 1: are with Chloe. M oh true, the lights and shit.
Speaker 1: And then so Chloe leaves and Kim I do not
Speaker 1: have to She bbms her BBM.
Speaker 2: Yes, that is BlackBerry message for young people this f YI.
Speaker 1: So she bbms her that she's a fucking disgusting troll, yes,
Speaker 1: and that she hates her and that she's and that
Speaker 1: Chloe is so jealous of her and she did that
Speaker 1: on purpose, and just basically this is what I mean
Speaker 1: when I say me and Kim is the real Kim.
Speaker 1: That's when she tried to punch Chris last episode. That's her.
Speaker 1: That's who she is. Yeah, Yeah, she's mean, and I
Speaker 1: like a mean Kim because she looks happy when she's
Speaker 1: being there. Oh, my god when she when she Molly
Speaker 1: w Courtney, she was like ever her and that bob.
Speaker 1: That bob was bobbing and she was bobbing, and Weaves used,
Speaker 1: I fucking loved that episode. I don't I've said this before,
Speaker 1: I'll say it again. I don't think that the conversation
Speaker 1: what they're mad about with Chloe is not I mean,
Speaker 1: with Courtney is not that she doesn't show her life,
Speaker 1: because now that'll be seen all those documentaries. Kim never
Speaker 1: got on there and was like, well, I've been up
Speaker 1: all night because Kanye was screaming at my mom, And
Speaker 1: why would she. I wouldn't do it either. I'd be
Speaker 1: trying to protect my person's like mental health. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to do that either. And Chloe never said, hey,
Speaker 1: I can't film today. I couldn't film. I wasn't at
Speaker 1: the family barbecue because I was out dragging my husband
Speaker 1: out of a hotel room with prostitutes and coke.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I think the actual issue is that we're on
Speaker 1: this show. We have to film a certain amount of
Speaker 1: hours and days to fill up the content, and you
Speaker 1: won't even do a fake storyline Courtney. Courtney's like she's
Speaker 1: literally like why you know, like come a yoga instructor
Speaker 1: get a dog, like do something anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And then and then she comes into something
Speaker 2: and she has a list of demands of is this organic?
Speaker 2: Is this? That? This that and third?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like I'm not going to pretend like
Speaker 1: being a reality TV star is easy or else we'd
Speaker 1: all be doing it. It's not easy. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: humiliating in some ways and the stuff you have to
Speaker 1: give of yourself to be a good reality and sometimes
Speaker 1: you have to be a fucking villain, Like it's just
Speaker 1: it's it's hard, and Courtney is not like respecting their labor.
Speaker 1: If she didn't want to talk about Unis, if she
Speaker 1: didn't want to talk about her fucking Justin Bieber whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Unice was like, don't even fucking say my
Speaker 1: name on that show, Like I will sue you immediately.
Speaker 1: I just like to think of him like with a
Speaker 1: subpoena in his back pocket, like bamn, they'll do it.
Speaker 1: But I just feel like, Courney, then you have to
Speaker 1: what they're talking about is the hours working the show.
Speaker 1: That's what they're talking about. And they all think Courtney's lazy.
Speaker 1: That's fine. I mean, I kind of respect the fact
Speaker 1: that she's like, just pay me, I'm not gonna do
Speaker 1: any work, but I still understand why everybuddy is mad
Speaker 1: at her. And then Courtney got an attitude and Kim
Speaker 1: got the tap tap in that ass, and like I said,
Speaker 1: I love the way her bob was going well, and.
Speaker 2: Then I love they're so small and Chloe's so tall
Speaker 2: and she's like, oh my god, god that's going on guys,
Speaker 2: Like she can literally pick up each one of the
Speaker 2: money for hours. Yes, Yeah, that's what's so funny. She's
Speaker 2: not even like in a panic or worry that they're
Speaker 2: going to hurt each other.
Speaker 1: She's just like stop, She's like yourself Tanner is on
Speaker 1: like yours on my wall. Yeah, but that's my favorite Kim.
Speaker 1: And so like I know that she bbm Chloe with
Speaker 1: a straight face, like she is waiting for her plane
Speaker 1: to go and she's just letting her know you discussing
Speaker 1: little fucking trol. Don't you ever.
Speaker 2: Don't you ever wake me up?
Speaker 1: Don't you ever try to say goodbye to me when
Speaker 1: I'm sleeping ever again? And you know you brought those
Speaker 1: cameras in there, and my face wasn't even on you
Speaker 1: are fucking crazy, like, and.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is so much. But I don't
Speaker 2: have sisters, so maybe this is just what happens.
Speaker 1: I don't have sisters either, and every depiction I've seen
Speaker 1: of sisters makes me not want any, Like I don't
Speaker 1: I know that there there are depictions where they're like,
Speaker 1: sisters are your best friend and stuff like that, but
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. And mostly I just see sisters
Speaker 1: like killing men and having to like have each other's
Speaker 1: back over or fighting or sleeping with each other's husbands.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just see a lot of like drama,
Speaker 1: and like I also can't imagine like coming home. I
Speaker 1: have three brothers. I can't imagine coming home from anywhere
Speaker 1: and someone's wearing my clothes, Like, what is that? That's weird?
Speaker 2: That would be insane. I have two younger brothers and
Speaker 2: we're clothes but obviously we bicker. And I just feel
Speaker 2: like if my brother walked in, I'd be like, get
Speaker 2: the fuck out, you're so annoying, And but I wouldn't
Speaker 2: send him a crazy text message because I would have
Speaker 2: just yelled at him in the moment.
Speaker 1: I have six sister in laws, and one of my
Speaker 1: first interactions with him, two of them were arguing and
Speaker 1: the other one told the other one that and that's
Speaker 1: why you got a saggy pussy. And I sometimes thinks
Speaker 1: so fucking weird that I sometimes think back to like
Speaker 1: being in the house with my brothers and if one
Speaker 1: of them yelled out, that's why you got a saggy pussy?
Speaker 1: What do.
Speaker 2: We would probably laugh like.
Speaker 1: Wait, what what?
Speaker 2: And we used to like fight when we were like
Speaker 2: be in the house by ourselves. But we never, I
Speaker 2: don't know, we never just said that to each other.
Speaker 2: Like it's just a different experience, I guess.
Speaker 1: And I think that I think that Kim and Chloe
Speaker 1: and Courtney our group, and you know, obviously Kindle and
Speaker 1: Kylie are a pair, and I think that they can
Speaker 1: say such mean stuff to each other because of how
Speaker 1: close they are.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I think that they don't think it seriously.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, and they just move on. Like when Kim
Speaker 1: called and said all this first she called then she'd
Speaker 1: be bammed. Courney just hound the phone. She's just like,
Speaker 1: I just hung up.
Speaker 2: That was so funny to me.
Speaker 1: She's like, whatever I just told you guys, stop crusing
Speaker 1: a friend Mason, but fine, whether just talk on the phone.
Speaker 1: I was like, whatever, going to the Hamptons. It doesn't
Speaker 1: like this, like this isn't a problem for them, and this,
Speaker 1: like the Kardashians make me not want to have sisters.
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful I don't have any sisters. I am
Speaker 1: so grateful that no one had their nanny drive to
Speaker 1: the school to ask me why I had their clothes
Speaker 1: on or anything like that. I'm so grateful for that
Speaker 1: sort of shit. I also think that the fact that
Speaker 1: Rob's the only boy contributes to them being in love
Speaker 1: with Rob. Well, not Kim Kikus, He's a piece of shit,
Speaker 1: but them being in love with Rob to a certain
Speaker 1: to like all up in his business, wanting to be
Speaker 1: close to whoever he's having sex with because he's the
Speaker 1: only boy. I have three brothers. I could give a fuck.
Speaker 1: I don't care where they go. I don't care who
Speaker 1: they fuck, I don't care who they get married to.
Speaker 1: I do not care.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I do sometimes wonder if those girls love themselves, But
Speaker 1: other than that, I like, I am never like, oh wow,
Speaker 1: you gotta talk to me, but girl, take them, take
Speaker 1: them right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, my brother has like a serious girlfriend and
Speaker 2: she's nice and we get along and everything and rich
Speaker 2: with the holidays, and so I'm like, oh, I should
Speaker 2: probably like interact with her more because she probably wants
Speaker 2: me to like her because she's dating my brother. But
Speaker 2: I'm just like, oh, hey, girl, Like I don't have
Speaker 2: anything to get into with her about it. Oh, I
Speaker 2: should probably try to let her know that I like her,
Speaker 2: so she's not like freaked out by that.
Speaker 1: I wish one of those women would ask me if
Speaker 1: I like them. I'd be like, what is your name?
Speaker 1: What is I'm not even married to my brother for
Speaker 1: like seventeen years, but what is your name?
Speaker 2: Again?
Speaker 1: Like I don't know. I literally don't care. You're doing great, sweety,
Speaker 1: don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: And also, my mother's mean by nature, So if she's
Speaker 1: being mean to you, it's fine. She's mean to everybody.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about that shit. Like you literally don't need
Speaker 1: her to like you. Nobody cares. Yeah, yeah, so that's
Speaker 1: the mean Kim's a segment of this episode. Then the
Speaker 1: other thing that we need to talk about is Courtney
Speaker 1: and Scott. Huh huh s gott is on a bender.
Speaker 1: Is on a bender. They're supposed to go to hamp
Speaker 1: to the Hampton to see his parents. His parents call
Speaker 1: Courtney and basically like, have you met have you talked
Speaker 1: to the mental case? Yeah, he won't answer the phone.
Speaker 1: He won't answer your text or phone calls. We don't
Speaker 1: know what the fuck is going on whatever, Like they
Speaker 1: they are over Scott. Yeah, and so is Courtney.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's very like shut down, which I can relate
Speaker 2: to that when I'm banis acting up being just so
Speaker 2: like I can't engage with that, I can't be angry,
Speaker 2: I can be anything. I'm just like ignoring it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this has post him like really freaking
Speaker 1: out in Miami. I think it's pre him in the
Speaker 1: Hamptons that that when they do Courtney and Chloe take
Speaker 1: the Hamptons and like French Montana is there for some reason?
Speaker 1: Like I I don't. Yeah, yeah, I just feel like
Speaker 1: a lot's been going on, and I also think not
Speaker 1: seeing a tenth of it with this show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're glossing over it because it's like, why isn't
Speaker 2: he answering his phone?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's on a bender, And and Courtney is fully
Speaker 1: in a mom hole like that's she's in mother hole
Speaker 1: and that happens. You know, I'm fully leave, I'm team
Speaker 1: leave those kids like I. I'm like, I'm a full
Speaker 1: of on fucking person and everybody in this house knows it.
Speaker 1: I and I I I'm glad of that. And because
Speaker 1: when my kids are eating sometimes they go to mommy,
Speaker 1: I'm a knocking on the door and see if she's hungry,
Speaker 1: because they think they know that I am a person.
Speaker 1: They do not think that I just exist to serve them, right,
Speaker 1: But that first couple of years, it's real fucking hard.
Speaker 1: When I say decenter your kids. It's hard to decenter
Speaker 1: a one year old. It's real fucking.
Speaker 2: Hard, right, because they need you.
Speaker 1: They they would die. I would die, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I also give a of grace to people. You know,
Speaker 1: obviously we're all we're we're all moving towards this idea
Speaker 1: that you really should be putting your kids online. But
Speaker 1: I have a lot of grace to people who become
Speaker 1: like kind of a mommy blogger or all their content
Speaker 1: is about their kids, because in the first first maybe
Speaker 1: five years, everything you do is about them. M it
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be, but a lot. Your world is them,
Speaker 1: and so what else are you gonna fucking talk about
Speaker 1: right now? I just give a lot of grace to that,
Speaker 1: to people with that. And so I understand where Courtney is.
Speaker 1: I don't understand why she goes to bed between nine
Speaker 1: thirty and ten pm every night with a baby. I
Speaker 1: don't get that. Uh, but fine. I don't understand why
Speaker 1: Scott's not in there with her because he's got as
Speaker 1: he's got a rage all night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's probably like out in about out,
Speaker 2: But I also don't think he's doing much of the
Speaker 2: helping with the kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah. When they get to the Hampton's, everybody thinks it's
Speaker 1: weird she's still going to the Hampton. I was like,
Speaker 1: they're proud. They're basically her in laws.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that's weird. I was like, that's
Speaker 2: his grandparents, that's mass grandparents.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm taking Mason to see his grandparents and I'll
Speaker 1: hang out at the house. And she has a good
Speaker 1: relationship with him, despite the fact that she apparently goes
Speaker 1: through their home every time she goes there.
Speaker 2: That pissed me off so bad. You do not go
Speaker 2: in someone And this is Courtney has bad manners.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not going to someone's home.
Speaker 2: And touch anything. And I was expecting these people's house
Speaker 2: to be like disgusting, and it was just a.
Speaker 1: Normal home and I'm like, a cute little house.
Speaker 2: Stop touching that lady's stuff. I don't like that.
Speaker 1: Courtney has no home training whatsoever, none, because Kim was
Speaker 1: too busy. I mean, Chris was too busy busting it
Speaker 1: out on the opening on the tennis court. But she
Speaker 1: has zero home training at all. And the way she
Speaker 1: was talking about this house, She's like, I just clean
Speaker 1: and organized and I declutter and they love it. And
Speaker 1: I was like, do they do?
Speaker 2: It's like her house is clean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the house is clean. And I hated the
Speaker 1: part where she's like pulling stuff out and be like
Speaker 1: look at this, look at that dainty trash can, look
Speaker 1: at that, look at I'm like, yo, this isn't you're
Speaker 1: embarrassing these people? Not that I think that the stuff
Speaker 1: that they had was embarrassing, but why are you yaking
Speaker 1: stuff out from behind stuff in a bookcase in someone's
Speaker 1: house in front of cameras. Why are you doing that?
Speaker 2: Right? So this like random these like random normal people,
Speaker 2: Like it was just weird it's like, so what if
Speaker 2: they have an old computer, Like there are people of
Speaker 2: a certain age, they probably have not updated their home
Speaker 2: until they're like, they're not getting rid of a computer
Speaker 2: that probably maybe still turns on. They're just not doing that.
Speaker 1: Also, the Borders also, Scott is their only child, and
Speaker 1: people of one child can be a little I don't know,
Speaker 1: they make shrines to their child sometimes. Yeah, yeah, like
Speaker 1: every thing your kid does. Think about everything your kid
Speaker 1: does is the first and last time that will like everything,
Speaker 1: and so you kind of get like focused on him.
Speaker 1: Scott does give only child energy. I'm sorry he does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very spoiled.
Speaker 1: Yeah, derogatory. I'm in a derogatory way, yess. And he
Speaker 1: gives the only child energy. So that's happening. His mother
Speaker 1: actually gets upset and says something that Scott and Scott
Speaker 1: once he sobers up a little bit succordy about it,
Speaker 1: and I said, yeah, like you do need to speak
Speaker 1: to Courtney about that. Don't you ever go to someone
Speaker 1: else's house and throw some of their things away? That
Speaker 1: is a crazy thing.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do that. And I like tease my mom
Speaker 2: about all the rugs in our house. But I would
Speaker 2: never just grab her stuff and throw away, like that's
Speaker 2: so crazy.
Speaker 1: My brother and two of my nieces and my nephew
Speaker 1: just visited my mom and when they left, they accidentally
Speaker 1: took a yellow throw. By the way, my mother coordinates
Speaker 1: her house by seasons, so I was blue and yellow
Speaker 1: right now and very sweetish, and she they accidentally took
Speaker 1: a yellow throw, and I swear to god, my mother
Speaker 1: acted like they bust in her house and robbed her
Speaker 1: armed robber showed her and got her yellow. I was like,
Speaker 1: is that something that we could go get? I was like,
Speaker 1: we could just go to home good to see if
Speaker 1: we can get No, I want mine. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: if Courtney showed up at her home and threw something away,
Speaker 1: I believe my mother would have shot her.
Speaker 2: Like my mother would have attached Courtney.
Speaker 1: Like scratched her face up his shit.
Speaker 2: There would have been nothing left with that hair, and
Speaker 2: I should have took that.
Speaker 1: I I really just like Courney once again, no home training, Courtney,
Speaker 1: no home training. Kardashian like, just sit your ass down.
Speaker 1: But when they get to the Hampton, Scott is there.
Speaker 1: They didn't even know he was there.
Speaker 2: So I'm maybe I don't remember this. Are Jonathan and
Speaker 2: Scott like childhood friends?
Speaker 1: Yes, they have known each other way longer than Kim,
Speaker 1: because Kim's actually his friend. Someone said that, like one
Speaker 1: of the comments on my post, which I really wanted
Speaker 1: to delete. Now it's entire somebody, it's entirely too much.
Speaker 1: Someone said, well, what does she expect? Scott had to
Speaker 1: leave his family in New York to come to LA.
Speaker 1: He moved for her. I was like, Scott was already
Speaker 1: in LA, That's what. Yeah, Like Scott's a rich kid
Speaker 1: and Scott like wanted to go to LA that and
Speaker 1: that's how Courtney met up with him, right, Like Scott
Speaker 1: is like he knew he knew Jonathan. They've done each
Speaker 1: other for a long time, which is why Jonathan was
Speaker 1: like talking to her his parents and stuff on the
Speaker 1: phone because they've been long term friend, long term friends.
Speaker 1: But yeah, what happens is they show up and they
Speaker 1: Anthons and Jonathan is there and they're like, oh, I
Speaker 1: guess Scott's here.
Speaker 2: It's crazy to think of Jonathan as a child, like
Speaker 2: he doesn't I don't know, like he like went to
Speaker 2: middle school. Like that's so crazy to me.
Speaker 1: I don't imagine if as a child, I can't do it.
Speaker 2: Like just think about it. I can't see it.
Speaker 1: I get to see it. Oh my god. But so
Speaker 1: Scott's there, he's asleep and they wake him up by
Speaker 1: sending Mason in there. And I will say this about Scott.
Speaker 1: I do not think Scott's a great father right at all.
Speaker 1: I don't. But I think he likes his children, which
Speaker 1: is more than I can say for a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he seems like happy to see it, and the
Speaker 2: Masons seemed really happy to see him, like for all
Speaker 2: whatever going on, Mason's an extremely happy baby.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think, like I just I can imagine
Speaker 1: him talking to Penelope, like he's like hey, Pete, and
Speaker 1: like like he always seems happy to see his kids
Speaker 1: and always willing to entertain them. And I don't mean
Speaker 1: that like he's doing a show for them, but like
Speaker 1: whatever they're willing to talk about or do, he's just
Speaker 1: like okay, yeah, yeah, show me your car man, that's
Speaker 1: fine right now. I think a lot of people think
Speaker 1: Courtney's a bad mom. I don't know if I think
Speaker 1: she's a bad mom. I don't love her mothering at all,
Speaker 1: but like that time when when she was like she
Speaker 1: was like, Rain needs me to like advocate for him.
Speaker 1: And so when the nanny said something the Rain that
Speaker 1: she she brought Rain over to like give the nanny
Speaker 1: business or whatever, it's like the nanny does not work
Speaker 1: for Rain. Sorry, that's not all, but anyway, I don't
Speaker 1: love her mothering. But right now, Mason is mostly living
Speaker 1: with Scott. He's like a serious teenager at this point.
Speaker 1: And I think and people keep like bringing that up
Speaker 1: to be like, well, she's a bad mom. He hates
Speaker 1: her husband and he's bad. I'm like, if if Mason
Speaker 1: mostly live at Courtney with that makes Scott a bad dad.
Speaker 2: No, No, I think sometimes that happens where people kind
Speaker 2: of pick one parent or whatever reason. I don't think
Speaker 2: that's that unusual.
Speaker 1: Scott seems chill. He seems to delight and delight in
Speaker 1: seeing his kids. I don't know if he's like enforcing homework,
Speaker 1: but whatever, I think. I think it's perfectly fine for
Speaker 1: Mace to want to live over there. And he doesn't
Speaker 1: want to be on camera, which is which also makes sense.
Speaker 1: And so when they're like, well he wasn't at her wedding,
Speaker 1: Yes he was, he just wasn't being filmed. He well,
Speaker 1: he's not with it. He just doesn't want to be filmed.
Speaker 1: You have no idea. Now Mason comes down, and it's
Speaker 1: like I hate my mom, okay, right, But I.
Speaker 2: Imagine like whatever's going at the Travis Barker Houser's, like
Speaker 2: Alabama's always there with fifty thousand people, Like there's a
Speaker 2: lot going on at that house. And if I was
Speaker 2: like a teenage boy going through my puberty, I kind
Speaker 2: of be like I just kind of want to wear
Speaker 2: my hoodie and like be on my phone at my
Speaker 2: dad's house, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think Scott's fine with that, I think.
Speaker 1: And also like your mom's being carried baby style around
Speaker 1: the house by this guy who looks like the villain
Speaker 1: and in Thor Love and Thunder. I will never stop
Speaker 1: saying that, yeah, oh my god, right at Christian Bale, right, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: he looks just like that.
Speaker 2: He does.
Speaker 1: And your mom's being carried like basket style around the
Speaker 1: house by him, and they're like spitting each other's mouths,
Speaker 1: and like it's not that maybe he ates Travis, maybe
Speaker 1: he does it, but I don't want to sit next
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 2: No, And I cannot stress enough Alabama. Barker's in there
Speaker 2: with fifty people, like, so I would be like I
Speaker 2: have to get away, like and then you just have
Speaker 2: your little brother and sister like that. It's it's probably
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that. Like go over Scott's house and
Speaker 1: they can lay on those big couches and have like
Speaker 1: TV on and just play on your phone and maybe
Speaker 1: your friends come over and your dad's chill about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like I think that's fine. And I don't think
Speaker 1: that makes Courtney a bad mother. I have other reasons.
Speaker 1: I think Courtney's a bad mother.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but not that. And I bet it Scott's
Speaker 2: how she can eat like pizza and like tacos and
Speaker 2: Courtney is probably like you have to eat organic or I.
Speaker 1: Think Courtney is back on pizzas and tacos. You think
Speaker 1: that she's still that way with Travis.
Speaker 2: I don't know. She is so like she has that
Speaker 2: dummy company where she's so like like supplements.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw it in Lenny. You know what, Now
Speaker 1: that I think about it, I think I think Travis
Speaker 1: has gotten real, like weeat clean, like I just still
Speaker 1: never mind. I think she might still be on that shit.
Speaker 2: But I think it's like wheat grass over there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's like deeply in love with Travis, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I even if like he was cool as shit, I
Speaker 1: still I think Travis is a good father, bit missive,
Speaker 1: but I think that he and Scott I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't feel like Alabama can like lead and write,
Speaker 2: so I have questions about that.
Speaker 1: I think that he's a good father in the way
Speaker 1: you would think of Scott as a good fathers that
Speaker 1: he really likes his kids, he likes to be around them. Yes,
Speaker 1: his kids never show up and he's like, what do
Speaker 1: you want. He's like, oh hey, girl, Like he's I
Speaker 1: think his kids probably love him to fucking pieces, even
Speaker 1: which is not technically his kid, but she was still
Speaker 1: living with him for a lot of her childhood, and like,
Speaker 1: I think that he and Scott are similar, right, and
Speaker 1: that way, I don't necessarily think. I think Travis actually
Speaker 1: did make sure there was food in the house. Like
Speaker 1: maybe not him personally, but he did have someone who's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, the kids like the cereal, make sure we
Speaker 1: have that. I don't think Scott does that. I think
Speaker 1: Scott's like, what do you mean you want cereal? Tell
Speaker 1: Lupe about it, like she'll get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, he's not like a tuned.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and so I was. I will say I'm
Speaker 1: a certified Scott hater, but I will say that about him.
Speaker 1: I think people are like, well, he trapped him into
Speaker 1: those kids, maybe, but he likes those kids, so I
Speaker 1: don't have to fucking tell you.
Speaker 2: I think he was perfectly fine being with being with
Speaker 2: Courtney and like having their kids and having their life together.
Speaker 2: I think it was Courtney rightfully, so was like wanting
Speaker 2: to get out of what was probably a very miserable relationship. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So in this episode, like at first, Courtney's really cold
Speaker 1: to him. Chloe's like, Scott called me, and at this
Speaker 1: point they're not like friendly anymore. Scott called me and
Speaker 1: he just was telling me all his side of stuff
Speaker 1: and he wants to feel like a man. You got
Speaker 1: to take care of your man, and I'm like, Chloe,
Speaker 1: shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2: I literally yelled at my coelevision. I was like, shut up.
Speaker 2: So Ever, if I ever ask anybody for advice, do
Speaker 2: not ever tell me that he wants to feel like
Speaker 2: a man.
Speaker 1: I don't care, Like what am I supposed to do
Speaker 1: to make him feel like a man. That sounds like
Speaker 1: a personal thing. Yeah, like going to a retreat or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you mean?
Speaker 2: That is not my problem?
Speaker 1: But how can I have him feel How can I
Speaker 1: look at him as like another adult in this house,
Speaker 1: as a grown man, when it doesn't seem like he's
Speaker 1: super involved in the day to day of Mason. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he'll hold him, but I don't think he like
Speaker 1: he knows his schedule and he and he I could
Speaker 1: leave Mason there for like a day and a half
Speaker 1: and it will be fine. He's drunk a lot. He
Speaker 1: started redrinking even though he had stopped. I think that's
Speaker 1: how they come back together. So he's drinking again, He's
Speaker 1: partying like he is a nineteen year old in the city.
Speaker 1: And yeah, like, how am I supposed to take him seriously?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What what does it even mean to make him
Speaker 2: feel like a man? Like I can't even call him
Speaker 2: and nowhere.
Speaker 1: That Yeah, he won't answer the phone or send me
Speaker 1: a BBM back. I think I will say this. I
Speaker 1: think that, like I said, Courtney's in a mother hole.
Speaker 1: That's that's how it goes you you are very intent
Speaker 1: and focused on there. I do think relationships require work.
Speaker 1: But I think that a lot of people say relationship
Speaker 1: require work, and they're talking about like digging in a
Speaker 1: coal mine, and yeah, work, like you're not going to
Speaker 1: be like dirty and inhaling like its spestos while you're
Speaker 1: doing the work a meeting. No, when I think of
Speaker 1: like when someone says a relationship requires work, the work
Speaker 1: I'm talking about is that you're a small town baker
Speaker 1: that makes six cupcakes today. That's all you do, wipe
Speaker 1: a counter and then like I don't know, farmer George
Speaker 1: comes in there and you talk about the crops, and
Speaker 1: that is it's like a labor of love.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's something that you really want to do, but
Speaker 2: you have to do it, like you have to you
Speaker 2: have to get the east and put it in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then that bakery makes zero profit, Yeah, dollars
Speaker 1: of profit.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you like, I
Speaker 2: love cupcakes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just like take off your apron, hang it
Speaker 1: and just go.
Speaker 2: You should not be on the railroad.
Speaker 1: No, you should not be on the road. There should
Speaker 1: be no workman's comp that should be nothing like ohsha,
Speaker 1: they should nothing like that. And I think that so
Speaker 1: when I say it requires work, I do think she
Speaker 1: has to like garden that relationship if she wants it.
Speaker 1: I don't think she wants it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like Chloe does say, like, if you're going
Speaker 2: to be in a relationship with him, then you have
Speaker 2: to like do you have to forgive him? But she
Speaker 2: says that, oh, because it's not fair to Scott. It's
Speaker 2: like no, no, no, it's not fair.
Speaker 1: That's exactly that's you know, broken clock is right twice
Speaker 1: a day.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: The fact is that you're in this relationship and you
Speaker 1: don't actually forgive him, you don't actually want to be
Speaker 1: with him, and so that is you need to figure
Speaker 1: that out, because yeah, you still don't trust him. He
Speaker 1: kind of discussed you in certain ways, and what is
Speaker 1: that for, Like the fact that you will not even
Speaker 1: sleep with him figuratively or literally, is something's going on there?
Speaker 2: Right? Why would you want to continue? It's like you
Speaker 2: forgave him, but you haven't forgiven him, So just break up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys don't spend time together like that, and
Speaker 1: just yeah, I do agree with that. I certified Scott
Speaker 1: hater here, but I did have a little feeling when
Speaker 1: he goes. I don't know you, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you still love me like he used to, but I
Speaker 1: love you like I was, like, it's so sad, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I do think he did love Courtney, you
Speaker 2: know whatever that looked like for him, But.
Speaker 1: It just I think she would have been happy to
Speaker 1: stay with Courtney forever. He didn't need to get married
Speaker 1: to her. I think they could have had a fourth child,
Speaker 1: I think. But I think even in those moments they
Speaker 1: were still technically living separately, even in the same fucking house,
Speaker 1: right right, they were still like there's a there's a
Speaker 1: scene where he shows up at the house at like
Speaker 1: eleven o'clock in the morning, drunk and like just right
Speaker 1: after the break up, and it's like I want to
Speaker 1: I want to see the kids and he's drunk and shit,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, like people don't remember this. This
Speaker 1: is like chaos, and the kids notice, I'm sure. And
Speaker 1: then after all that happened, he was like taking Bella
Speaker 1: Thorne to like Frank All, Remember, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I forgot about the their like kind of error before
Speaker 2: they kind of got settled into whoever they're with now
Speaker 2: was so crazy. I mean, there's the Sophia Richie of
Speaker 2: it all that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Scott was at this point driving past playgrounds and asking
Speaker 1: people to in his car. There's a grown man and
Speaker 1: he's just like and and like Bella Thorne. Like whatever
Speaker 1: you were doing with Bella Thorne, you were taking advantage
Speaker 1: of them. They're saying, like, there's there's no way that
Speaker 1: you were consentually doing anything with Bella Thorne. I don't mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that was a mess.
Speaker 2: Like that was a mess. Like how old? How old
Speaker 2: even Bella Thorne?
Speaker 1: I think I think they were like twenty twenty one
Speaker 1: and Scott was like thirty eight.
Speaker 2: That is so disgusting. Yeah, she's born in nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 2: That's inappropriate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then halfway through the trip, Bella Thorne like
Speaker 1: he like he like uh like ditches them to hang
Speaker 1: out with a girl he had cheated on Courtney with
Speaker 1: mm hmm. Like he was cheating on Courtney quite a
Speaker 1: bit actually, and not just in a way, in a
Speaker 1: way that like Courtney would have to like TMZ would
Speaker 1: be like Scott's out with a bunch of women. It's
Speaker 1: like he's getting handsy like that, which is doubly embarrassing.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, not only is your man cheating, but
Speaker 1: also everybody knows about it because TMZ's talking about it.
Speaker 2: He's sloppy.
Speaker 1: He's sloppy, right, And I know that they were kind
Speaker 1: of like in an on and off type of thing.
Speaker 1: They didn't sleep in the same room, they didn't really
Speaker 1: share lives, but I don't think Courtney was like really
Speaker 1: open with that to the entire world at the time.
Speaker 2: No. I think they had a very kind of weird relationship.
Speaker 2: They almost seem brothers sister sometimes, like, yeah, they have
Speaker 2: some sort of closeness and connection, but it didn't always
Speaker 2: feel very strongly romantic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And even me knowing all of that and being
Speaker 1: like again a certified Scott hater, I when he said
Speaker 1: I don't know if you love me like he used
Speaker 1: to I, the reason that like gave me a little
Speaker 1: awe is because I was thinking about the addict in him,
Speaker 1: about how like stuff has happened due to my addiction.
Speaker 1: And I know I've messed up and maybe the person
Speaker 1: I wish I could be with forever doesn't love me
Speaker 1: anymore because of all the things I've done and said
Speaker 1: when I was fucked up. Right, Yeah, if you felt
Speaker 1: sad to.
Speaker 2: Me, that's a tough one. Yeah, I mean I'm sure
Speaker 2: the thing about being somebody like Scott. As much as
Speaker 2: everybody is upset with him, he's probably the most upset
Speaker 2: with himself.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I bet he has a lot of self hating tendencies.
Speaker 1: I actually don't. I mean, listen, he was close with
Speaker 1: his parents, he was an only child, but I don't
Speaker 1: think he treated his parents very well. And now they're gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that was really sad, Like when his parents
Speaker 2: died back to back. I remember that being like very upsetting.
Speaker 1: It was very upsetting. And they're just gone now, and
Speaker 1: they're like like and he he's right, he has no
Speaker 1: family and that's why he needs to stay in the
Speaker 1: Kardashian family. But I also I'm like, Scott, you're a
Speaker 1: grown up, like you like your kids are your family?
Speaker 1: You where your friendships are? Like Like what do you mean, like.
Speaker 2: Youn't got a cousin somebody you know?
Speaker 1: Or he could create his own family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, exactly. I mean I bet that was what
Speaker 2: was really difficult for Courtney, because you can't get over
Speaker 2: this guy because your mom is like, well he's got
Speaker 2: to comfort Thanksgiving because he doesn't have a family. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And actually, and I didn't remember this, but I've been
Speaker 1: watching there's a creator called Logan on TikTok who is
Speaker 1: like going through each Kardashian relationship, like doing fifty part
Speaker 1: like retellings of these relationships really interesting. The one with
Speaker 1: Corey crazy interesting. But I didn't remember this that the
Speaker 1: reason Courtney's kids were not at Courtney's proposal and Travis's
Speaker 1: kids were was because Chris didn't bring them because she
Speaker 1: was worried Scott would be sad if he found out
Speaker 1: that Courtney was getting proposed to, so like people talk
Speaker 1: so much shit that Courtney didn't have her kids there,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, because Chris was more concerned with Scott's
Speaker 1: feelings than making sure that your entire that Courtney's entire
Speaker 1: family was there to like celebrate and to like be
Speaker 1: a part of this moment.
Speaker 2: Right and they've been broken up for like a decade.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I just like I was like, if
Speaker 1: you care about Scott, which I think is fine. I
Speaker 1: think of Scott if I were if I were that family,
Speaker 1: I would think of Scott as like an extended relative,
Speaker 1: like a distant relative, and that like if I'm having
Speaker 1: a birthday party or a vacation, I'm like Scott, you
Speaker 1: want to come, blah blah blah. But if we're just
Speaker 1: having Sunday dinner and it's just like the sisters and
Speaker 1: their and their spouses and their kids, then I'm not
Speaker 1: going to bring you them.
Speaker 2: Right. He's very like, oh, we're having a Christmas parties.
Speaker 2: Of course, Scott in common like, of course he's the
Speaker 2: father your grandchildren. It's not like you have to be like,
Speaker 2: don't ever come around. But he's not really a part
Speaker 2: of your family in that way.
Speaker 1: You tell me how Richard's is at the Christmas party,
Speaker 1: but Scott can't go get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1: Of course he can go to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he doesn't need to be just
Speaker 2: in the house hanging.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And So if I feel like if I were
Speaker 1: worried about Scott's feelings at the proposal thing, I would
Speaker 1: first of all, I wouldn't let him find out from
Speaker 1: someone else. Like if I were christ I would go
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, Hey, I'm gonna take I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take the kids. I'm gonna take them to Malibu. Oh,
Speaker 1: what's going on. Courtney's having a thing out there, and
Speaker 1: I want it's a surprise for her and I want
Speaker 1: the kids to be able to see her, and I
Speaker 1: understand that I'm not bringing you. I'm really sorry about that,
Speaker 1: but this is like to deal with Courtney specifically, and
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that you know that if
Speaker 1: you like, we could have lunch this week or whatever,
Speaker 1: I would, I would make sure he understands that I
Speaker 1: still care about him, but I'm not gonna put his
Speaker 1: feelings over my daughters. That's a weird thing to do.
Speaker 2: Right, right, and he should be able to understand that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he should be. I I there there is a
Speaker 1: sort of brokenness with Scott especially, and he's still struggling.
Speaker 1: I didn't he just go to rehab like two years ago?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't. I mean he then he
Speaker 2: was dating Amelia Hamblin, so like he's what you don't
Speaker 2: remember that because if he does not get away from
Speaker 2: the schoolyards, lead these alone, like please date a woman
Speaker 2: in your age stop.
Speaker 1: I just I do have some sympathy for him. I
Speaker 1: just don't. I think the hate comes from how everyone
Speaker 1: loving Scott so hard that I'm like, guys, you have short,
Speaker 1: short memories this and and Courtney's supremely unlikable. But Scott isn't.
Speaker 1: And that's why you like him more than Courtney, because
Speaker 1: he's a better person than Courtney is right.
Speaker 2: I mean Courtney barely her personality is like a whisper.
Speaker 2: She barely has a personality.
Speaker 1: And she's rude, and she has a home training and.
Speaker 2: She has horrible manners.
Speaker 1: It's just horrible. Even as Scott is like they're trying,
Speaker 1: like Chloe's like basically being their relationship doula like yeah,
Speaker 1: like so even then, Courtney's face is just like uh huh, yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever you say. Yeah, And I'm like and they asked
Speaker 1: her like Courtney, you and in her head talking head,
Speaker 1: She's like, I only want to be a Scott. There's
Speaker 1: nobody else I'm trying to be with. I love him,
Speaker 1: I love her family. And I'm like, you don't do
Speaker 1: you say that to him ever?
Speaker 2: Or like do you believe this?
Speaker 1: Like it's the like what's that about? I don't know?
Speaker 1: But yeah, I seeing Scott's fit parents in this was
Speaker 1: like seeing hearing Scott like I can hear a shame
Speaker 1: in his voice. Yeah, when he's talking to her and
Speaker 1: he just wants to be loved by her, and he
Speaker 1: even says that there's something missing and he wants to
Speaker 1: fill that with his relationship and like go to therapy.
Speaker 2: I mean, Scott is somebody that really could have benefited from,
Speaker 2: like a really good therapist and.
Speaker 1: And aa probably I don't think he was willing to
Speaker 1: go to those things. No, I don't think that works
Speaker 1: for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, like what his what's going on
Speaker 2: with him? You know, what is his story that he
Speaker 2: is the way he is?
Speaker 1: I don't. I think he just started using young That's
Speaker 1: probably what it was. And so that that does affect
Speaker 1: like your development and as in your mind you're like
Speaker 1: growing up and stuff and I and keep in mind
Speaker 1: we're about to go into the Lord Distic era.
Speaker 2: I think he's still there.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think, but not right now, Like not
Speaker 1: he isn't there yet because remember you'd be wearing suits
Speaker 1: and shit like that. So we're about to move into it,
Speaker 1: and I think, what's happening. Scott has got a real
Speaker 1: soft voice in twenty twenty six, Like he's like, hey guys, yeah,
Speaker 1: like you know when he's talking over here, he's loud,
Speaker 1: he's yeah, he's very New York, right, But by the
Speaker 1: time you get to twenty twenty six, scout. He's got
Speaker 1: a beard and he's wearing a sweatshirt and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I just want Courtney to be happy like that.
Speaker 1: So he sounds different and so people think he's different.
Speaker 1: But I will never forget you bring flying out Bella
Speaker 1: Thorne the can because you thought that, uh, Courtney was
Speaker 1: there with Unice and you were like, I'm gonna shake
Speaker 1: shit up. I will never fucking forget that. You both
Speaker 1: probably high as a kite.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do you remember them doing this? And I'm like,
Speaker 2: they are far too old for this, Like, yeah, what
Speaker 2: they were doing and.
Speaker 1: Who they're doing it with, Yeah, just ridiculous. And you know,
Speaker 1: prayers up for Bella.
Speaker 2: Hopefully she's doing better. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I hope so, I hope.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: Uh did is there anything we didn't talk about?
Speaker 2: Hmm? I think that's basically it. It's just a very like
Speaker 2: my Me and My Me and my Man heavy episode.
Speaker 1: That's because Chloe's in it.
Speaker 2: Lloy was driving me crazy, like I don't like when
Speaker 2: people talk the way she was talking. I was like,
Speaker 2: You've got to stop.
Speaker 1: Did you think I don't think she's with Tristan. I
Speaker 1: really don't think she's with Tristan. I think she doesn't
Speaker 1: have any boundaries with Tristan now. But do you she
Speaker 1: says that she's happy to be single, she's happy not
Speaker 1: to have a man in her house. She's happy the
Speaker 1: way things are, and I can totally see that. But
Speaker 1: you think she's telling the truth like she Like, I don't,
Speaker 1: use really think people aren't telling truth. And they say
Speaker 1: that because it is nice not to have him been
Speaker 1: in your house. It is nice to like not be
Speaker 1: worried that that somebody's gonna have a baby on you again,
Speaker 1: Like that is nice. But do you think Chloe's telling
Speaker 1: the truth?
Speaker 2: I think she's telling what she believes. Like I think,
Speaker 2: deep deep down inside she wants to be in a relationship.
Speaker 2: And I mean, look, she's in her forties, she has
Speaker 2: a lot of life left. It's not unusual to think
Speaker 2: that she would want to have someone to spend a
Speaker 2: lot left of her life. But I think she's very
Speaker 2: damaged after trusting. I think she's extremely embarrassed.
Speaker 1: Sure, and should I think.
Speaker 2: She should be Vicky? We're doing Vicky. Vicky gumbleson telling
Speaker 2: Pyle that she should be ashamed, that she should be.
Speaker 1: Ashamed, like Chloe that was like one of the top
Speaker 1: I was because I was doing the rapper when I
Speaker 1: was talking about Jordan Woods. I always say that Carrie
Speaker 1: Bradshaw is the Queen of the dumb bitches, and I
Speaker 1: honestly believe that Chloe is a court gesture in that
Speaker 1: court like, yeah, she is a dumb bitch like so
Speaker 1: and will literally people love her. They'll be like, she's
Speaker 1: so mature. No she isn't.
Speaker 2: No she's not. She's very immature. She's still like thirteen
Speaker 2: years old. You've got to get over And this is
Speaker 2: something I've had to like tell myself. You being ugly
Speaker 2: or whatever or awkward or whatever you want to call
Speaker 2: it when you're thirteen, you have to get over that.
Speaker 2: You cannot let that run your life because everybody looks
Speaker 2: weird when they're thirteen. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 2: you have to just like obviously it sounds an effect
Speaker 2: on you, but there's a point we have to be like,
Speaker 2: I am not in middle school. I'm an I'm an
Speaker 2: attractive woman. I have a career. I don't have to
Speaker 2: let Tristan Thompson treat me like shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have so much to offer. Ristin Thompson does
Speaker 1: not literally have to be at my house right now,
Speaker 1: even though I've not no.
Speaker 2: And I also think they have a weird thing about
Speaker 2: having multiple kids with multiple men, So I wonder if
Speaker 2: that's a part of it. I don't know. They're very
Speaker 2: odd when it comes to sex and dating, like they've
Speaker 2: dated a lot of guys. But they're also kind of
Speaker 2: like conservative and a well they.
Speaker 1: Go to that weird church, yeah, the one that did
Speaker 1: a sigh up on on a Biaber.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they did.
Speaker 1: They did. They were like, you need to get married today, Bieber,
Speaker 1: like today, we don't care who it is, asked Selena.
Speaker 1: Oh she said, no, go get that Haley chick, Like
Speaker 1: you need to get married.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's a prescription for a man not
Speaker 2: having his shit together, is to get married if you
Speaker 2: are in a Christian church like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that she can take care of you.
Speaker 2: That she can take care of you.
Speaker 1: Somebody wants like I don't hate Hailey Bilber, what other
Speaker 1: people do? Actually, my thirteen year old we were just
Speaker 1: sitting in the car and she was like, I they
Speaker 1: Hailey Baber, Damn girl, you weren't even alive during the
Speaker 1: uh Selena era. Like really, like he should get back
Speaker 1: with Selena. I was like, what have you been watching?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's too young to probably haven't even watched Wizards
Speaker 2: of Waverley Place, right.
Speaker 1: He was born in twenty twelve, Like, how do you
Speaker 1: know those people? I don't let her get on the internet.
Speaker 1: Someone told her that at school, Like, there's no fucking
Speaker 1: way she knows about and I had to like sorry
Speaker 1: to break it to her, but I had to be like,
Speaker 1: he's a drug addict, and so she loves Selena Gomez.
Speaker 1: So was Selena Gomez when she was with him. I
Speaker 1: showed her the picture of them on skid row looking crazy.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is so because my mom. Obviously
Speaker 2: when I was a kid, my mom didn't know about
Speaker 2: pop culture. So now I'm thinking how fun it would
Speaker 2: be if your mom if like you know about pop culture.
Speaker 2: Your mom's like, look at this picture.
Speaker 1: Of Oh my god. My kids fucking hate me. Anytime
Speaker 1: they bring up something, I'm like, he's a rapist. I was,
Speaker 1: they are so fucking sick of me. They'll be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I like this, and the what if they asked? My
Speaker 1: ten year old asked me to play. He asked me
Speaker 1: to play a Justin Bieber song and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a new song and said, actually this song.
Speaker 1: I was playing this song before you're even born. And
Speaker 1: he was like what they are so And because I
Speaker 1: don't let my kids on the internet, not really, they
Speaker 1: don't find out things until like two weeks later. H
Speaker 1: like I was done with Quiet on the Creek before
Speaker 1: they ever said it. And it is so fucking terrible.
Speaker 1: It's like living with my parents. They are so far
Speaker 1: behind because they don't have TikTok and they don't have threads,
Speaker 1: and I don't let them watch YouTube like that I
Speaker 1: I have. They have like an hour on YouTube a
Speaker 1: day because I'm a good parent and so, but I'm
Speaker 1: on YouTube for thirty hours.
Speaker 2: So Princess, that is so funny. You're like, keep up,
Speaker 2: keep up with.
Speaker 1: Up God, and they're like, we.
Speaker 2: Can't get on the internet.
Speaker 1: They're like they're like saying Someone's like do you even
Speaker 1: know what that means? And I'm like no, I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you either. So she's like a
Speaker 1: mean older sister.
Speaker 2: I'm justsing my imagine my mom being like, look at
Speaker 2: this picture of Selena and Justin Kiro.
Speaker 1: Does she like, yeah, they were on drugs and then
Speaker 1: I showed him. I showed her Justin nodding out with sizza.
Speaker 2: What.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I said, that's the fiftyfold right there.
Speaker 1: She was like, what does that mean. I was like,
Speaker 1: so there's this thing called fittinel Okay, just like looking
Speaker 1: at me, and I'm just like, hey, I'm like, Haley
Speaker 1: has to take care of him. I mean she I'm
Speaker 1: sure he loves it, but she has to take care
Speaker 1: that's her job. But anyway, I.
Speaker 2: Have a little empathy for Halo Beam.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like she's not having a good time, Okay, No,
Speaker 1: she's struggling through stuff. Like her days are not all uh,
Speaker 1: you know, popcorn and cotton candy, but it's it's hard
Speaker 1: over there. But the reason I'm talking about this is
Speaker 1: I saw a video where someone said that Haley Bieber
Speaker 1: is like someone who got who was able to make
Speaker 1: a wish with the genie, but like the genie was
Speaker 1: petty and was like, oh you want to be oh
Speaker 1: you want to be with Justin Bieber. I can make
Speaker 1: that happen, bam, but but it's like the worst time.
Speaker 1: And I thought that was so funny.
Speaker 2: And she's also the most famous woman in the world, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: there are drugs of women being like she wore her
Speaker 2: hair pulled back into a point tel. So I pulled
Speaker 2: my hair back into a point tel. And I'm looking
Speaker 2: at her and I'm like, I don't get it. I'm
Speaker 2: like maybe, I'm like, I'm not seeing it.
Speaker 1: She's a tastemaker, babe. She she is a taste maker.
Speaker 2: I know, but like, what is the taste?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't That's my question.
Speaker 1: I don't know. People are people are like she is. Oh.
Speaker 1: I had to tell Bunny about this. I was like,
Speaker 1: those brownie lips she was doing blackened and women of
Speaker 1: color have been doing it for years. You all you
Speaker 1: do is you line your lips so.
Speaker 2: You put I'm like, that might not though special.
Speaker 1: You still it from the hood, okay, yes? And the
Speaker 1: gold body's just looking at me. She's never been to
Speaker 1: the hood because I have her living in a very
Speaker 1: nice suburban house and I'm like, yeah, you can go
Speaker 1: anywhere in the Bronx and bitches know how to do that. Okay,
Speaker 1: don't don't sleep on it. And Bunny's just like, okay.
Speaker 2: Mom, I know when I hear with those gold hoops,
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is why white girl stop wearing gold
Speaker 2: that's new look.
Speaker 1: Like hers up for Haley. I don't hate her. I
Speaker 1: just think that she got the raw. Her wish didn't
Speaker 1: come through the way she wanted to it, did it.
Speaker 2: She's gonna feel really great in her forties when she when.
Speaker 1: She breaks up with him, she's gonna be happy the
Speaker 1: time of her mother fucking life. And I hope she
Speaker 1: breaks up with him not he dies. I really hope
Speaker 1: that that's not what happens. I think that's going to
Speaker 1: like haunt her for the rest of her life if
Speaker 1: he dies. Yeah, yeah, I will continue to ruin my
Speaker 1: kid's life with pop culture.
Speaker 2: That's hilarious. I love that.
Speaker 1: I love it. Bunny just just started like watching Gilmore
Speaker 1: Girls Out of Nowhere, and she calls in my room.
Speaker 1: She goes, I love Jess and I just bust it
Speaker 1: out laughing.
Speaker 2: Oh just you wait.
Speaker 1: I was just busting out laughing, and she's like, I
Speaker 1: don't like it. Every time I tell you something, you
Speaker 1: start laughing. I was like, okay, but it's because you
Speaker 1: just figured out stuff and that's so funny. She's watching also,
Speaker 1: How I Met your Mother, and she's thinks She's like
Speaker 1: Robin and Barney are good to get. I'm like, babes,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry that you got some heartbreaks coming
Speaker 1: to you. Huh yeah, all right, besides me like making
Speaker 1: fun of my daughter. I think that's it.
Speaker 2: That's all all right.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Nadia. Can you tell the people where to
Speaker 1: find you?
Speaker 2: Well, you can find me on TikTok only if you
Speaker 2: know about this specific person named Amoy the Goddess that
Speaker 2: I need to talk to someone about. You can message
Speaker 2: me on TikTok at irl Internet. Girl.
Speaker 1: You have niche, you have niche interest. I remember I
Speaker 1: sent you a video of a forty year old white
Speaker 1: woman saying, I'm a forty year old mother. I'm about
Speaker 1: to break down blue face and krashan and I see
Speaker 1: you said please review for accuracy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually that's about it. Yeah, so I have to
Speaker 2: talk to someone about this person. If you know who
Speaker 2: they are, literally send me a message. I'm not joking.
Speaker 2: I need to talk to someone about it.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Nadia, Thank you. I'll see you next time.
Speaker 2: Okay. Bye.
Speaker 1: The gallery