WEBVTT 1 00:00:14.240 --> 00:00:17.839 And we are back with part two of our Love 2 00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:25.039 Is Blind Extravaganza, where we've been covering episodes six, seven, eight, 3 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:29.440 and nine all together now okay, and we have a 4 00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:32.600 lot to get to because there was a lot to talk. 5 00:00:32.399 --> 00:00:34.479 About with these people. Because it was a lot of episodes. 6 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:37.560 We had some macro, so go back and listen to that. 7 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:41.280 We just covered Ali and Anton and KB and Edmund. 8 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:43.439 That's all we got to. So now we've got three 9 00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:45.799 more couples. We're taking them couple by couple. We're not 10 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:48.439 doing every inch of every moment because that makes sense 11 00:00:48.439 --> 00:00:49.079 in a shit like this. 12 00:00:49.359 --> 00:00:52.759 No, it doesn't, because too much stuff changes very quickly. 13 00:00:52.640 --> 00:00:55.679 Changes so fast in pods, like writing down every conversation 14 00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:58.359 and every pod with people like who gives a shit? Okay, 15 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:01.079 So let's go to Madison. And this is a very 16 00:01:01.119 --> 00:01:05.319 interesting It is my most interesting I think. So from 17 00:01:05.359 --> 00:01:08.040 the jump when those two met, we all got the 18 00:01:08.200 --> 00:01:13.239 vibe that maybe Joe wasn't into Madison. Correct, right, that's 19 00:01:13.239 --> 00:01:15.319 fair to say. Now I want to go a little 20 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:18.480 easy on Joe, easier than you might expect, because you. 21 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:21.000 Can't, like, you can't make. 22 00:01:20.879 --> 00:01:24.200 Yourself be attracted to someone if you're not. I've never 23 00:01:24.319 --> 00:01:26.799 said anything that was mean. He never was like, oh 24 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:29.599 my god, because and let me just also say he 25 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:32.680 did tell her he's not attracted to her. He said 26 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:34.400 that the first time, at the beginning. 27 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:35.879 Even though I mean, but they did have sex, so 28 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:38.599 he said she's not she said, I know what she said. 29 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:41.840 She said, he said, you're not my normal type, which 30 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:45.159 fair enough, which is fair enough, It really is fair enough. 31 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:45.640 It's weird. 32 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:48.640 It's unnecessary. And I hate that she's being painted as 33 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:51.920 like this sort of bigger girl because she's such she's 34 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:55.879 still so much smaller than the average, yes person, I mean, 35 00:01:55.920 --> 00:01:58.840 she's got like a rocking body and she's not a 36 00:01:58.879 --> 00:02:02.000 stick figure compared to some people, which is okay too. 37 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:04.319 We're not putting that down, but like, I hate that 38 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:07.159 in any way that she would think of herself, though 39 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:08.439 I don't think she does. I think she has a 40 00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:09.840 pretty positive body image. 41 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:10.400 I do too. 42 00:02:11.039 --> 00:02:15.759 Yeah, so she's she's fine. But Joe, now, okay, let's 43 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:18.280 take it through when they go. So they're in Mexico 44 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:20.840 and they're having a night where they all meet up 45 00:02:22.159 --> 00:02:24.120 and everybody is yeah, the meetup for the first time, 46 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:27.319 and it's always pretty wild, they drink a lot. Whatever 47 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:35.080 Joe got, Joe got like blackout, I mean fucked up. 48 00:02:35.120 --> 00:02:37.159 But it's weird because he never really got that fucked 49 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:40.159 up again. It didn't become part of his storyline yet. 50 00:02:41.080 --> 00:02:44.680 Maybe that's to come because he's no so fucked up. No, yeah, 51 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:48.240 but he's kind of worse because, like, so he goes 52 00:02:48.240 --> 00:02:49.840 and gets fine, he's so drunk and he's not really 53 00:02:49.879 --> 00:02:51.680 making sense to the party. He's like, I gotta go, 54 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:54.960 I got bath. She's like, you're gonna leave and he's 55 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:56.759 like you say. She goes you want me to come with? 56 00:02:56.800 --> 00:03:00.680 He goes nah, So he walks off and just she goes, Okay, 57 00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:02.719 well I guess I'll stay. I'm kind of bummed about it. 58 00:03:03.039 --> 00:03:05.439 She finally goes back to the room tries to kind 59 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:07.680 of quietly come in. He's in bed, all lights out. 60 00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:11.080 She comes and said she's like, okay, hi, honey or whatever, 61 00:03:11.360 --> 00:03:12.479 and he's like, who are you? 62 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:15.599 He doesn't, He's like, where'd you go? Why are you 63 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:16.280 just up? 64 00:03:16.759 --> 00:03:18.800 He did not remember there'd been a party, right, He 65 00:03:18.879 --> 00:03:20.599 barely seemed to know who she was. He didn't know 66 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:22.039 that they'd had dinner. He's like, did I. 67 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:24.120 Eat it'd be wad. 68 00:03:24.439 --> 00:03:26.759 I've never I have seen people like that. I've never 69 00:03:26.759 --> 00:03:29.840 seen people like that on this show. M hmm, Like 70 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:30.319 where the. 71 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:31.639 Fuck did that come from. 72 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:34.360 They don't have the same rules on this show as 73 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:36.479 they seem to on The Bachelor about drinking. 74 00:03:36.759 --> 00:03:39.199 Seems like they're not cut off at all. That's why 75 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:41.680 that goblet. That's why we got the gold goblet. Yes, 76 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:44.280 I mean it's always full. 77 00:03:45.599 --> 00:03:48.159 You remember how mad I got until someone finally was like, yeah, 78 00:03:48.199 --> 00:03:51.439 they have to do that for like marketing purposes, editing purposes. 79 00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:56.280 I was like, oh yeah, I hated it. I Other 80 00:03:56.400 --> 00:03:59.800 than that night, there's a weird vibe with them. I mean, 81 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:02.120 I don't get it. I don't know why Joe keeps 82 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:03.479 saying I love you, I love you. I love it 83 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:04.919 because I don't think he loves her. 84 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:10.719 No, not at all. Okay, here's my take. It's not 85 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:16.199 that nuanced. Please, she is crazy. I can't she's so so. 86 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:20.120 I was completely on I was on her side, right, 87 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:24.279 but because it's pretty gross if somebody gets that drunk 88 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:27.600 and they've only been together like this is like their second. 89 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:30.240 Basically like yeah, three days, I mean yeah. 90 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:32.639 Yeah, at the most, I mean it might It literally 91 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:34.759 might have been their second night. I think they it 92 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:37.920 was their second night because they go they haven't seen 93 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:38.279 each other. 94 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:39.800 They don't see each other in Denver. 95 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:42.319 I think they first see each other when they go 96 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:46.079 on their vacation, right, so they travel together. Then they 97 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:48.639 have their first night together and a lot of them fucked. 98 00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:52.399 Then the next day they're together during the day, and 99 00:04:52.439 --> 00:04:55.000 then by the next evening is the get together. 100 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:58.720 It's like he gets black out drunk and she's crying. 101 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:02.439 He doesn't even goes. She's like in the corner crying 102 00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:08.199 loudly for him to hear, and he's like what. She's like, well, 103 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:10.920 I'm just really upset, and like he won't get up. 104 00:05:11.319 --> 00:05:12.560 He's like, well, if you want to come here and 105 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:14.120 tell me, and she goes, you should come to me, 106 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:15.439 and he's like, I'm sleeping. 107 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:19.639 But before that, she acted like she's never seen a 108 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:22.439 drunk person before. Like she's acting like he's on an 109 00:05:22.480 --> 00:05:23.160 acid trip. 110 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:24.480 She's like, oh my. 111 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:27.800 God, what's going I don't understand when you've asked me 112 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:29.680 the same question six times? 113 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:33.959 Why would you ask me the same question? Oh my god, 114 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:38.560 scaring me? You ask me why I'm dressed up so 115 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:40.279 many times. 116 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:43.399 She needs an alan on meeting. Yes, because I've been 117 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:45.959 in that situation where you just like you're in a 118 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:48.600 loop because you don't really understand. I mean, I know 119 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:50.680 it's funny you say that because you're so right. 120 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:51.519 You're right. 121 00:05:51.560 --> 00:05:53.279 She's acting like. He was like, I'm gonna jump off 122 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:54.439 this building because I can fly. 123 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:59.839 Oh, Joe, you can't fly. He's like passed out. Dr 124 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:04.040 She's yeah, she is, She's great. 125 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:06.680 She's also get to me, why are you naked at 126 00:06:06.680 --> 00:06:09.160 the top of the structure, Joe. 127 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:12.639 I was like, She's like, you are not the Lizard King. 128 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:15.600 He's like, I'm not saying I'm the Lizard King. I'm 129 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:17.519 just trying to sleep it off. I am I had 130 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:21.720 too much to drink. I'm the Lizard King and I 131 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:24.519 can do. She's giving me Meghan the lady who thought 132 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:25.639 she looked like Megan Fox. 133 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:26.639 Chelsea. 134 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:29.759 She's giving me physically Chelsea vibes uh huh in the 135 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:32.560 face a little bit that has nothing to do with anything, 136 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:36.040 But I did notice that. I'm like, mmm, I still 137 00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:40.399 feel bad for Chelsea. She says, one dumb thing. Yeah, 138 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:42.639 people tell me I look like Megan Fox. Just one 139 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:45.360 dumb thing. And then she can't. They even brought it 140 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:48.279 up on this season. Yes, yes, so I don't remember 141 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:48.800 who said it. 142 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:52.600 Yeah. But then so Joe like, yeah, he can't win 143 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:53.439 with her, Like. 144 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:57.319 So this is the problem is from then on, right, 145 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:02.360 Joe can't give her enough reassurance, like she okay, so 146 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:04.879 can we get to the scene the next scene? 147 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:06.839 So okay? So then well hold on. 148 00:07:07.079 --> 00:07:10.000 So the next day after that, after his blackout drunk, 149 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:13.079 he's she Some people on Reddit were saying that he 150 00:07:13.160 --> 00:07:15.560 was so horrible because he was like laughing at her. 151 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:17.959 But I didn't take it like that. I took it 152 00:07:18.040 --> 00:07:21.160 like he was. He was apologetic. He said I was intoxicated. 153 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:25.399 He was like, obviously I had over the limit. He's like, 154 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:28.800 basically like but what can I do? Like what can 155 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:31.920 I say? And she's like I just like I just 156 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:35.240 don't understand. But oh but then she's like, I'm just 157 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:38.319 we just really need to communicate, and I'm sorry too, 158 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:41.759 Like you know, he apologizes right right, and he's like, 159 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:44.959 I'm sorry, but he's becoming one of these guys that 160 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:47.800 he's acting like an old man that's been married like 161 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:52.399 a millionaires. It's like, yes, dear, yes, dear, totally never 162 00:07:52.439 --> 00:07:54.920 works out. Yeah, he's just trying to like play cater 163 00:07:55.279 --> 00:07:58.279 because he's like, yeah, I'm sorry about that. I'm really 164 00:07:58.279 --> 00:07:59.879 I'm really sorry I acted that way. 165 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:00.360 Start. 166 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:03.120 He's very conscious of how he's going to come across 167 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:06.040 on TV, right, That's what I'm getting. I'm getting that 168 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:08.600 he's like, I don't want to look like an asshole. 169 00:08:08.959 --> 00:08:13.160 I'm gonna he's faking it though a lot. Yeah, he's 170 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:18.000 not under her, and she can sense it. So he's like, sorry, 171 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:20.319 I said the wrong thing, Like what do you need 172 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:20.639 from me? 173 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:22.759 She's like, well, Joe, I. 174 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:25.240 Just need you to like Tino tol Me, I'm pretty 175 00:08:25.279 --> 00:08:27.800 and like like and she's He's like, yeah, you are 176 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:28.399 so pretty. 177 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:31.600 I'm totally into this. Okay. But then there's. 178 00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:35.840 Another scene that I want to talk about where he's 179 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:38.919 she's like, I am so Indian, like I'm so in 180 00:08:38.919 --> 00:08:40.679 love with you. I'm just like so in love with you, 181 00:08:40.720 --> 00:08:42.960 like I'm one hundred percent sure this is going to work. 182 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:46.240 And he goes and I'm paraphrasing, but he's like like 183 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:50.080 a hundred percent, like really, like just like you don't 184 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:53.399 have any doubts at all, And she's like, no, I 185 00:08:53.440 --> 00:08:54.440 have no doubts. 186 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:56.759 And he's like, wasn't that Nick and Annie? Or is 187 00:08:56.799 --> 00:09:00.799 that they also had that? Because they have to they 188 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:01.960 will get to we'll get to that. 189 00:09:02.039 --> 00:09:04.639 But this was this was when they get back this' 190 00:09:04.840 --> 00:09:08.879 I've moved us ahead to when they're in Denver in 191 00:09:08.919 --> 00:09:12.159 an apartment and they're like in the kitchen and this 192 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:15.759 is this is one hundred percent Madison and Joe. 193 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:16.559 And she's like. 194 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:20.639 And he goes, well, he goes, I just think this 195 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:23.679 is like kind of scary, you know, the whole thing. 196 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:25.639 It's like, it's kind of crazy, right, And she's like, 197 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:31.080 what are you saying? What do you you're either marriage 198 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:33.639 minded or you're not? Are you not marriage minded? 199 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:36.240 He's like, yeah, but one I should be able to 200 00:09:36.279 --> 00:09:38.039 say to you, like flat out, this is kind of 201 00:09:38.039 --> 00:09:39.039 a crazy situation. 202 00:09:39.159 --> 00:09:41.919 I mean, see, I love Joe. That's what I'm Joe. 203 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:46.679 Now I'm teaing Joe. And then she over reacts, she's unhinged. 204 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:50.960 She's just like, yeah, what, I of course it's crazy. 205 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:54.480 I said it's crazy. I told you that it was. 206 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:57.200 Really crazy, and he goes, well, I know, but like 207 00:09:57.279 --> 00:09:59.600 saying it's crazy is not really the same thing as 208 00:09:59.600 --> 00:10:03.320 sort of a expressing some doubts about you know, I 209 00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:05.440 think it's normal to have some doubts, and she's like. 210 00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:09.480 No, it's not what You're just not into me. You're 211 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:11.240 not going to give me what I need, and she's 212 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:14.000 freaking out. So okay. Some people on Reddit were like, 213 00:10:14.039 --> 00:10:15.480 he was just kind of laughing at her. 214 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:18.919 Yeah, but I felt that he was just like I 215 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:21.960 don't even know what to do, Like there's nothing I 216 00:10:21.960 --> 00:10:22.480 could say. 217 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:27.519 It's kind of exasperation right one, and also kind of funny. 218 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:30.360 I probably laughed too at a certain point, like Okay, 219 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:32.600 I mean he's just trying to figure out like how 220 00:10:32.600 --> 00:10:37.120 to get out of that, right, Yes, yes, it's not 221 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:39.519 a great Then they don't have a lot of drama. 222 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:41.480 We don't really see much from them when they have 223 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:44.159 the final meetup in episode nine, not the final, but 224 00:10:44.240 --> 00:10:46.840 when we have our last one at the Mechanical Bowl thing. 225 00:10:47.559 --> 00:10:49.919 We don't really get that much from them except for 226 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:52.080 and we'll get to this. I don't want to jump 227 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:54.200 ahead because I want to finish all our couples before 228 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:55.559 we get to the extras. 229 00:10:55.840 --> 00:10:57.600 But she's very excited when. 230 00:10:57.480 --> 00:11:01.639 Kate shows up the Kate k it oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 231 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:04.639 like they're being weird and they are just reading like 232 00:11:04.759 --> 00:11:05.480 college girl. 233 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:09.399 They're just the whole thing's bizarre. There's something off about Madison. 234 00:11:10.559 --> 00:11:14.000 My thing is very off about Madison. And the thing 235 00:11:14.039 --> 00:11:16.679 about Joe which you you kind of called this early. 236 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:20.480 He's really really cute. He's a very good looking guy. 237 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:24.960 Which good family nice. His family is so nice. Yeah, 238 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:25.840 we should talk about that. 239 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:29.679 Yeah, she meets the family and they're the sisters are 240 00:11:29.679 --> 00:11:32.799 really sweet. In fact, most of the families that we've 241 00:11:32.840 --> 00:11:35.600 met so far have been pretty great. Yeah, I have 242 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:37.879 to say, I mean we haven't met everybody's except for 243 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:41.080 Edmund's mom, which we talked about part one if you 244 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:41.679 didn't hear it. 245 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:46.960 We're not judging her. We're just concerned, right, I mean, 246 00:11:47.000 --> 00:11:48.559 that's like the it's fair. 247 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:51.200 We can see why he has a lot of issues 248 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:53.159 continuing to this day. 249 00:11:53.879 --> 00:11:55.360 Right, And I'm and you know, I'm proud of her 250 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:58.039 for like being on the show and from micing up 251 00:11:58.120 --> 00:11:59.879 and talking about things and feeling emotional. 252 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:04.919 That's good. It starts. So yeah, it's not nothing. 253 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:08.000 Some some moms wouldn't even show up, they wouldn't be 254 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:10.639 there at all, They wouldn't even support that. So we 255 00:12:10.720 --> 00:12:13.759 give her that. But okay, so we liked Joe's family 256 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:16.440 a lot. He seems pretty cool. There's no way they're 257 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:19.039 gonna make it. No, no fucking way. It's kind of 258 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:20.000 a waste of our time. 259 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:22.759 But we don't like the fact that this is a 260 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:26.200 thing that we're going to see with several of these women, 261 00:12:27.159 --> 00:12:30.399 the over emotional well, it's you know what it is. 262 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:35.000 It's not set, it's her, it's both. It's both Annie, 263 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:39.559 which we'll get to Annie, and it's Madison. Both have 264 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:40.840 some similar problems. 265 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:44.840 I think Annie's is the most textbook thing I've ever seen. 266 00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:49.200 Madison has a different like she's got. Madison's more like 267 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:53.600 Edmund to me. She has like an emotional emotional regulation problem. Yes, 268 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:57.879 I love how we become psyche psychologists. We did not 269 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:00.360 go to med school. I did well. I don't talk 270 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:03.039 about it a lot, but we didn't. I went to 271 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:07.360 a psychiatry school. It's a little different. It's a shorter program, 272 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:09.879 you might. I mean, that's really annoying to people that 273 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:14.080 listen that are actual therapists, are like actual psychologists. Like 274 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:18.799 she's bipolar, sure, but like, you know what, when it 275 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:20.399 comes to Annie, I was going to say this, I 276 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:22.720 had it all planned for you. I'm not because people 277 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:25.279 get mad when we when we talk about a certain 278 00:13:25.320 --> 00:13:28.039 personality disorder that she definitely has. 279 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:28.799 Orderline. 280 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:30.559 Yeah, well, I was going to say it rhymes with 281 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:34.679 doorder dying because I know we can't look, no. 282 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:37.600 We can't, but we're on we're on a podcast, so 283 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:42.279 we're yes, we're not treated. You know in magazines, you know, 284 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:46.480 in like gossip magazines, they'll they'll weigh in on what 285 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:49.799 plastic surgery people will have, and they'll always give a disclaimer. 286 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:53.039 They'll go, so and so, who's a plastic surgeon in 287 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:56.399 Beverly Hills who has not treated her right? 288 00:13:56.480 --> 00:13:57.679 Right? She has? 289 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:00.639 It's always doctor Phil who's never at her in person. 290 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:04.080 So she is biblar one. So we're not okay, listen, 291 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:06.000 I don't know if she's borderline. Let's get to Anny 292 00:14:06.039 --> 00:14:06.360 and Nick. 293 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:08.519 Can we get there because we have to, Okay, but 294 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:10.480 we just have to. Let's just wrap this up. 295 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:13.519 Let's wrap out with Madison and Joe. Let's wrap out. 296 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:15.879 Let's wrap out of Madison and Joe. I was going 297 00:14:15.960 --> 00:14:20.240 to say that she is very she has emotional immaturity. 298 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:22.960 So what she does is when Joe kind of sets 299 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:25.759 her off When she feels the slightest bit like Insecure, 300 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:30.080 she gets really mad and real big and she swears 301 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:30.399 a lot. 302 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:33.559 Have you noticed that. She starts going like fuck Joe, 303 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:36.200 like you fucking like fuck this, fuck that, like you 304 00:14:36.360 --> 00:14:37.399 you should fucking. 305 00:14:37.159 --> 00:14:41.159 Tell me this, and he just goes okay, and you 306 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:43.440 can just see that he's just like, I am so 307 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:46.960 not marrying this chick, absolutely, but like you see it, 308 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:48.200 you see it click off. 309 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:50.240 Well's never on, it's never on. 310 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:53.360 Oh yeah, But I just think that then he tries 311 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:55.759 he's doing this thing which I wish he wouldn't do, 312 00:14:56.399 --> 00:14:59.320 which is to just go I've got to get through this, 313 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:01.000 and I want to make get to the altar because 314 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:02.879 I want to seem like a nice guy. And it's 315 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:04.720 just like I'm not going to be as famous if 316 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:05.600 I storm out. 317 00:15:05.639 --> 00:15:08.879 Exactly the longer he's tays on and he's hot as hell, right, 318 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:11.559 he knows those dms are gonna light up, maybe from me, 319 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:12.120 I don't know. 320 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:15.320 But then I don't like that he keeps apologizing and 321 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:17.159 going like, yeah, I'm really sorry he. 322 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:17.679 Does this thing. 323 00:15:17.679 --> 00:15:21.600 It's just very Stepford husband. He's like, I didn't realize 324 00:15:21.639 --> 00:15:24.120 that you needed that from me. But next time, there 325 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:27.240 won't be a next time, because next time I'm gonna 326 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:29.679 really look out for your needs. 327 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:32.960 Right, And she says that Eleve will never happen to 328 00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:34.919 get well. Annie says that to you, I'm getting them 329 00:15:34.919 --> 00:15:37.240 a little mixed up, even though they're very different physically, 330 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:40.559 because they are so similar Annie and Madison in there. 331 00:15:40.759 --> 00:15:43.200 Okay, so we can be done with Joe and Madison. 332 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:45.919 Okay, Annie and Nick, Because all right, I just want 333 00:15:45.919 --> 00:15:49.559 to first off, I've come over well, I don't. It's 334 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:52.240 hard to say anything nice about Nick after what he 335 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:55.000 said in the Pods. But if let's say we were 336 00:15:55.039 --> 00:15:56.720 to take that out of it, let's say we didn't 337 00:15:56.759 --> 00:15:59.840 hear what we heard, which is hard, it's impossible to done. 338 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:02.399 But if we didn't have that aspect of him, he 339 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:05.879 seems okay, Like when his mom talks about Nick, he 340 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:08.080 seems like a very sensitive, loving. 341 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:10.879 He's better than her. I'll give you that. Yeah. 342 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:14.480 And other than yeah, he's got some weird, fucked up 343 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:17.919 views and I think they're coming from a place that 344 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:19.320 we just are not going to talk about. 345 00:16:19.360 --> 00:16:23.279 But I don't. I it's hard to un we can't. 346 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:26.320 We can't Unring the Bell where he said that if 347 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:28.480 his one of his He was the one who said 348 00:16:28.480 --> 00:16:30.360 if he found out his kid was gay, to be like, 349 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:33.480 was it a fad? He just like it's he is 350 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:36.639 a he's very traditional. I'm getting a very like all 351 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:40.120 like right Christian vibe. Yeah, we am I right about that, 352 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:43.960 and that's you can be no judgment on his religion 353 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:47.679 at all whatever. But I there's a there's a thing 354 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:49.559 that I feel like he's not telling us of how 355 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:50.919 he feels about things. 356 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:56.000 I'm getting a very like Riyan Nation thing. Oh my god, 357 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:56.679 do you know what I mean? 358 00:16:57.279 --> 00:16:59.799 I do know what you mean. And here's the thing. 359 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:03.279 I I'm with you. I was having the same I'm like. 360 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:06.319 Well, confusing because then he's really nice and like gentle 361 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:08.559 I gentle Nazi. 362 00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:11.599 He's not a Nazi. I'm totally kidding. 363 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:16.359 Yeah, it's hard because they do a little thing at 364 00:17:16.359 --> 00:17:20.440 the very at the very end. So let's let's here, 365 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:23.119 let's we'll get to that. Let's take us too, Let's 366 00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:26.960 take us through their journey. So yeah, let's see, they're 367 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:27.519 kind of. 368 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:31.319 Like the most maybe normal when they're in Mexico. 369 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:35.319 Until the last day they seem to really be into 370 00:17:35.319 --> 00:17:38.079 each other, except then one night they're laying in bed, 371 00:17:38.440 --> 00:17:41.160 it's the last night, Yeah, and she, I guess, is 372 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:43.640 like expressing how much she loves him, and he's saying 373 00:17:43.680 --> 00:17:44.160 it back. 374 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:46.400 But I guess he didn't say it with his whole chest. 375 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:50.319 I mean, it made absolutely I didn't stand on business 376 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:51.119 ten toes down. 377 00:17:51.400 --> 00:17:55.759 Exactly, and she just like starts spinning. And again, you know, 378 00:17:55.960 --> 00:17:58.559 I'm not saying it's Porter Pine, her papatity. 379 00:17:58.839 --> 00:18:01.640 Well, she's also drunk. I don't know if you picked 380 00:18:01.680 --> 00:18:01.920 up on. 381 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:05.559 That wrong, but she's there. She has the what's the 382 00:18:05.599 --> 00:18:08.799 thing we talked about? The cup that cannot be filled? Yes, 383 00:18:09.559 --> 00:18:11.519 broken cup not be filled. 384 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:15.640 And she has this like extreme fear of abandonment. 385 00:18:16.000 --> 00:18:18.640 Yes, he's just gonna, which is like the number one thing, 386 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:22.240 which everything's a spectrum. I'm not saying like whatever, we're not, 387 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:24.799 I'm not even judging that. But it was just on 388 00:18:24.839 --> 00:18:28.200 display like so it was so big and he handled 389 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:30.839 it like a fucking champ, and I don't know how 390 00:18:30.839 --> 00:18:31.519 he got through that. 391 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:34.400 What I liked is that he didn't lie and go, 392 00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:37.559 oh my god, what are you talking about? In love 393 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:37.799 with you? 394 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:41.559 He was just like I feel the same, like we 395 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:44.440 are on we're in this together, We're going to see 396 00:18:44.480 --> 00:18:45.400 good things for us. 397 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:48.440 I'm I'm here with you. And she's like, hey, you 398 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:50.559 just don't love me the way I love you, and 399 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:52.720 you're never going to Oh my god. 400 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:56.160 That was fear of abandonment. It was full on fear. 401 00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:59.039