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Speaker 5: Hi, and welcome back to another episode of Deplorable Nation.
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Speaker 3: that some SaaS. We're sassy girls just a little bit.
Speaker 3: That's what we are exactly.
Speaker 5: But this shit, we would be very different if we
Speaker 5: didn't have the SaaS, right, so.
Speaker 2: It would way to get it out of us. If
Speaker 2: we were back in the day.
Speaker 5: Maybe that is probably true, we would probably be the patients.
Speaker 5: And what we're going to talk about today, so ladies
Speaker 5: and gentlemen, yeah, today we are talking about committed life
Speaker 5: inside the asylums. So it's going to get deep and
Speaker 5: dark and kind of creepy and oh, I might have
Speaker 5: a side tangent later on when we get into the medications. So,
Speaker 5: uh oh, what is an asylum? And what when? Where
Speaker 5: they developed? What happened all of that kind of stuff. So,
Speaker 5: historically speaking, asylums were meant to be a refuge or
Speaker 5: a quote unquote safe place, sanctuary, et cetera, not a prison.
Speaker 5: So it was ideally at the time a safe place
Speaker 5: for mentally ill people.
Speaker 3: However, can you see this picture? Okay, I can't follow different.
Speaker 3: I had to do it different today because the images.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's some there's some stuff not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So yes, early institutions. One of the first was in
Speaker 5: medieval Europe and it was called the Tolhauser like toll
Speaker 5: house cookies were fools houses. They existed, but they were rudimentary,
Speaker 5: they were very it was very early days type thing mentioned.
Speaker 5: This was on the last episode we did. The Bethel
Speaker 5: Royal or Bethleem Royal Hospital or aka Bedlam in London
Speaker 5: is one of the earliest known institutions for the mentally
Speaker 5: ill roots as far back as the thirteenth century, so
Speaker 5: uber long time ago. But this place kind of also
Speaker 5: could have fit into our sideshow series because this Bethlehem
Speaker 5: hospital was also very famous for putting their patients on display.
Speaker 2: Yes, and these are going to be able.
Speaker 5: To come and come and look at the oddities.
Speaker 3: So this is a little pick of it, but there'll
Speaker 3: be some weirdness in between me pulling them up because
Speaker 3: of course they're not in order and they're weird.
Speaker 2: So here's that thought.
Speaker 5: That that happens. Thanks Jim for your assistance over there
Speaker 5: with that Grey liter agency.
Speaker 2: It's so annoying, man.
Speaker 5: So the very first place in the United States was
Speaker 5: in Boston. It was the Boston's All the House and
Speaker 5: it was back at night or seventeen twenty nine. And
Speaker 5: the first dedicated psycheatric hospital was in Williamsburg, Virginia in
Speaker 5: seventeen seventy three. So Europe was putting people away a
Speaker 5: long before they started doing it here. So yeah, originally
Speaker 5: they were deemed mad houses before any kind of formal
Speaker 5: state run type asylums came on the scene. So these
Speaker 5: were privately owned, privately funded, and zero regulations. What would
Speaker 5: possibly go wrong? But then again, what could go wrong
Speaker 5: happen with regulations because you know, just saying anytime the
Speaker 5: government's involved in any kind of regulation, there's something going on.
Speaker 5: So yeah, what could you find condition wise inside of
Speaker 5: the earlies asylums? We're going to get into that, like
Speaker 5: in great deal of detail later on. But frequently people
Speaker 5: were restrained with chains or straight jackets, or fed rotting
Speaker 5: food things like that, kept in really cold, dark, overcrowded spaces.
Speaker 5: A lot of times people were sleeping on the floor,
Speaker 5: so no beds, no, nothing like that, and they would
Speaker 5: keep them in dark, which we'll get into a lot
Speaker 5: more detail later on. Yeah, so places like this were
Speaker 5: more kind of like a warehouse or prison than a
Speaker 5: quote unquote hospital, you know, things to be today in society.
Speaker 2: It's sad the way they treated these people.
Speaker 5: So that Bethlem place, like I said, became a very
Speaker 5: famous tourist attraction because people paid to come and see
Speaker 5: people chained the wall or wearing a collar or all
Speaker 5: the things that they would do. So there's books, there's
Speaker 5: accounts that have been written about this all the way
Speaker 5: back in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, and they were
Speaker 5: talking about these really cold rooms where they would have
Speaker 5: to sleep on beds of straw, whippings, beating, forced feeding,
Speaker 5: blood letting, rituals. Kind of we touched on that a
Speaker 5: little bit. Induced to vomiting. How pleasant would that be?
Speaker 2: I love those oldnature Here you are with your throwing up.
Speaker 5: It's kind of it's kind of disturbing, which, like I said,
Speaker 5: in a little while, we're going to get deeper into
Speaker 5: the things that they did to these people. It's kind
Speaker 5: of disturbing. So hopefully people that are listening or watching
Speaker 5: don't have a weak stomach or spooky. We're not trying
Speaker 5: to induce vomiting. I'm just yeah, we definitely are not.
Speaker 5: But these cultures, while not a fan of vomiting. So
Speaker 5: early asylums were like a tool for population control, uh,
Speaker 5: labor camps because a lot of facilities that we'll talk
Speaker 5: about later on used people to work in factories and
Speaker 5: warehouses and stuff like that, so it's free labor, and
Speaker 5: they forced them to do so, and so they were
Speaker 5: kind of like storage facilities for the quote unquote undesirables.
Speaker 5: Show what could that possibly mean for a family that
Speaker 5: had somebody like I don't know me, for say, who's
Speaker 5: outspoken and independent and you know, whatever the case may be,
Speaker 5: somebody's that's a little slow or you know, has ms
Speaker 5: or whatever the case may be, or maybe they just
Speaker 5: have the wrong skin color, the wrong genetics or any
Speaker 5: of that kind of stuff. Those were all people that
Speaker 5: they would use.
Speaker 3: As orphans, Yes, orphans, words of the court, words of
Speaker 3: the state, which continued once you're labeled with this, I
Speaker 3: was a ward of the court, and it follows you
Speaker 3: throughout your life. Every application for college, every and I'm
Speaker 3: not saying that it didn't help me at times, but
Speaker 3: it's it's weird.
Speaker 5: It's a little weird, and that's our society these days.
Speaker 5: You have to have a label that you can slap
Speaker 5: on everyone to make them feel less than. So what
Speaker 5: did that do to your self esteem and your sucking
Speaker 5: when you were grown up where you constantly have to
Speaker 5: put that on applications?
Speaker 2: Oh you feel like dirt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you feel you know, unwanted, which is it's just
Speaker 3: a complete re.
Speaker 2: Reminder, you know, commatization. And it wasn't the case for me.
Speaker 3: I know it's a case for a lot of people,
Speaker 3: but my mom, you know, was in a situation at
Speaker 3: that time because she was ill, and my grandma did
Speaker 3: take me, but they made this whole, big, weird situation
Speaker 3: to get me to my grandma's. It was like way
Speaker 3: more money to adopt, and so yeah, it was easier
Speaker 3: and that was why it happened.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, you feel some kind of way.
Speaker 5: So it's crazy to me that they're like, well, we
Speaker 5: know we have you have family that are going to
Speaker 5: take care of you now while your mom's sick and recovering. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but we're gonna make you a ward of the court
Speaker 5: or ward of the state before you could go live
Speaker 5: with your grandmother.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Like instead of just saying, oh, okay, that seems like
Speaker 3: a good plan.
Speaker 5: It's somebody trying to get greased palms in a situation.
Speaker 5: What was the point behind that?
Speaker 3: There was some money there? I think maybe my grandma,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know the real story.
Speaker 3: I do know she just was like, it's way more
Speaker 3: money to do it the other way. So I think
Speaker 3: they pay a certain stipends, so to speak, rewards.
Speaker 2: Of the court.
Speaker 5: Interesting, So talking about who who was admitted to these
Speaker 5: facilities and why, people who had unmanaged depression or the melancholia. Right,
Speaker 5: you're you're said I didn't, so they labeled you with melancholi.
Speaker 5: People that had epilepsy, so seizure activity, uh, tuberculosis, addiction problems. Hello,
Speaker 5: like a lot of people nowadays, you'd all be in
Speaker 5: the cuckoo house with them.
Speaker 3: You have to see this ad for tuberculosis, Like, is
Speaker 3: this grandma? I'm just curious, are they shoving grandma outside
Speaker 3: or is this old man winter? I'm not really sure.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure what that is. It kind of looks
Speaker 5: like a lady that he's shoving outside and.
Speaker 2: I think he's shoving grandma outside.
Speaker 5: And across the red Cross and it says the title
Speaker 5: says the next to go. And so this man is
Speaker 5: standing there shoving this person out the door, and the Yeah,
Speaker 5: there's just like a wife and a child watching and
Speaker 5: a nurse fight tuberculosis. Red crap.
Speaker 3: Kid looks traumatizing like grandma.
Speaker 5: This gives new meaning to shoving grandma off the cliff. Right. Oh, literally,
Speaker 5: they're outside in the snow.
Speaker 2: Grandma, damn your grandma.
Speaker 3: Geez.
Speaker 5: So it's this Also, people who were admitted this would
Speaker 5: be my age group of people, women in menopause right
Speaker 5: because of hysteria, uh, for menstrual issues. Uh so hello
Speaker 5: ladies with periods. Uh, you could be in there as well.
Speaker 3: And I do endorse this ad Don't kiss bait on
Speaker 3: the mouth, Yeah, no, just keep your dirty mouth off
Speaker 3: the baby's face.
Speaker 5: Well that's kind of like having a French kiss with
Speaker 5: a dog, yeah, because you don't know where that tongue
Speaker 5: has been. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's just and I know everybody's gonna be like dog's
Speaker 3: mouths are cleaned.
Speaker 2: Listen. I don't care he eats, poops sometimes.
Speaker 5: Exactly or other things just say yeah. So, early institutions
Speaker 5: like the Athens Lunatic Asylum here in the United States
Speaker 5: recorded actually cases of people with epilepsy, menopause, alcoholism, or
Speaker 5: just you're sick, like generally ill health as the type
Speaker 5: of patients that they would commit.
Speaker 3: My favorite one once you commit the cascibators. Yeah, my
Speaker 3: favorite ones are the masturbaders. Yeah, yes, you're gonna You're
Speaker 3: gonna die.
Speaker 5: We're gonna. We're gonna get into that in a while too,
Speaker 5: because holy moly, so people that they considered mentally ill
Speaker 5: or uh of poor health or whatever back in the
Speaker 5: day definitely is not the same as as today and
Speaker 5: what we see people you could go for bizarre behavior. Uh,
Speaker 5: you can have the bizarre behavior literally if a bug
Speaker 5: crawls in your ear, because it upsets your balance, it
Speaker 5: upset your hearing, and it makes people a little crazy, naked,
Speaker 5: weird noises and stuff. Guess what you would be in
Speaker 5: the asylum too.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 5: Also people uh that were in poverty or an ability
Speaker 5: to support themselves. So homeless people, poor people, Uh, refusing
Speaker 5: to obey your spell house.
Speaker 2: You don't say.
Speaker 5: So how many people do you know that would be
Speaker 5: committed for not obeying your spouse or for questioning your spouse.
Speaker 5: That could be a problem too, and so those those
Speaker 5: were a big deal. And so for the men, veterans
Speaker 5: were a big class of people that were committed to
Speaker 5: the asylums. Of course, alcoholics, homeless, political agitators. I think
Speaker 5: they would like, yeah, I think they would throw a
Speaker 5: whole bunch of people in there these days. Or men
Speaker 5: who refused labor or authority could also be admitted. So
Speaker 5: women were the postpartum depression, menopause, and fertile women. So
Speaker 5: if you can't have a baby, you were thrown in
Speaker 5: the asylum as well well. Refused to your husband sexual
Speaker 5: activity outside the marriage. So if you're a you're gonna
Speaker 5: be in theater, let's just say. Or if you were
Speaker 5: a woman who reported abuse, so your husband beat you
Speaker 5: and you reported it, you were also thrown in the
Speaker 5: patty it's.
Speaker 3: Your problem too, Okay, the patty wagon is coming for you.
Speaker 5: So in the children category, we have any children with disabilities,
Speaker 5: bed weddings, So if you have pee in your bed
Speaker 5: from trauma or nightmares, or if you're uh, even a
Speaker 5: lady who has had children before, and your muscles are weakened,
Speaker 5: and you steeze and peek off and pee hello Patty Wagon.
Speaker 5: Kids who were quote unquote feeble minded got put in
Speaker 5: there autism before the actual terminology came out. Poor or
Speaker 5: elderly people. So anyone with dementia or sinality or cognitive decline, poverty,
Speaker 5: family inconvenience, any of those things, or if you were
Speaker 5: socially non compliant, those were all people thrown into the.
Speaker 3: Again with the non compliance, we're here.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, we would be in deep doo doo
Speaker 5: on so many different levels. So here we get into
Speaker 5: the early treatments and experiments. So straight jackets, chains and
Speaker 5: physical restraints were common. They believed that these balanced the
Speaker 5: bodily humor, but these also led to bloodletting or cold
Speaker 5: bathing and purging for people so induced vomiting. So late
Speaker 5: nineteenth century sedatives like morphine and bromides were used. Some
Speaker 5: pathologists catalogued organs and conducted post mortem research on people
Speaker 5: that died in the asylums because they wanted a better
Speaker 5: insight into mental illness or not even mental illness, as
Speaker 5: we saw about the people that were actually admitted. So
Speaker 5: a lot of times procedures were performed on people that
Speaker 5: were patients or whatever without any evidence of benefit. So
Speaker 5: early experimentation, hello, early trials and things like that, and
Speaker 5: so you know, we're going to get deeper into those
Speaker 5: kind of things. But they had different reform movements to
Speaker 5: try to make changes to the conditions and the treatments
Speaker 5: of people and whatever. And so in the seventeen hundreds
Speaker 5: there was a Felipe panel from France that removed the
Speaker 5: chains from the patients and advocated for more humane treatment. However,
Speaker 5: treatment would still persist because even though it's one person's
Speaker 5: idea that maybe we shouldn't put a chain around somebody's
Speaker 5: wrists and ankles and chain them to a wall in
Speaker 5: a cold, dark room and not feed them, they still
Speaker 5: did it anyway.
Speaker 3: You mean that gave them melancholia.
Speaker 5: They could definitely have food. I'm just saying if you
Speaker 5: were chained up in a really cold place and you
Speaker 5: had to sleep on straw, which hello, that would be
Speaker 5: uncomfortable too, Uh, you might get the melancholia.
Speaker 3: What if you were allergic, What if you just missed
Speaker 3: your kids? What if a million trillion things?
Speaker 5: Uh huh, one hundred percent. But if you had any
Speaker 5: kind of inkling of showing any sign of weakness on
Speaker 5: any level whatsoever, you were going to be there, Patsy,
Speaker 5: So you so bound. After the guy from France, there
Speaker 5: was another person from England. His name was William Tuke,
Speaker 5: and he was a Quaker who believed in the reform movement.
Speaker 5: They did.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: He founded the quote unquote York Retreat back in seventeen
Speaker 5: ninety six, and he believed in moral treatment of people,
Speaker 5: emphasizing kindness and routine, calm environments. Other movements happened where
Speaker 5: it was like no restraints and things like that. They
Speaker 5: had the Madhouses Act of seventeen seventy four that began
Speaker 5: to regulate private mad houses just in England idea, although
Speaker 5: enforcement was weak. Imagine that the government regulating something and
Speaker 5: not following.
Speaker 2: It didn't go good your things?
Speaker 5: Shocker, that's a shocker.
Speaker 2: Shocking. Well, I mean, was it really to.
Speaker 5: Help them or was it one hundred percent have to
Speaker 5: help them in there and see how much more money
Speaker 5: that we can make by selling them other stuff? So
Speaker 5: mar Drugs House Act. Then they had the Lunacy Act
Speaker 5: of eighteen forty five. And these are real, real things.
Speaker 2: I'm putting them up though they can see. Yes.
Speaker 5: So in eighteen forty five it recognized that the mentally
Speaker 5: ill as patients and sought to regulate care, and so
Speaker 5: the decline in traditional asylums in the historical sense decreased.
Speaker 5: But that's when the government got involved. Things started getting
Speaker 5: even a little bit while yepped up all the way
Speaker 5: into the nineteen nineties. Hello, nineteen nineties, that's a long
Speaker 5: time to be like they forgot we maybe shouldn't be
Speaker 5: forcing people to vomit or training them to walls and stuff.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 5: You know, are bad.
Speaker 2: Sorry.
Speaker 5: So interesting thing is that a lot of the stuff
Speaker 5: and the you know, movements and the treatment, you know,
Speaker 5: we got to be more humane and more kind and whatever.
Speaker 5: Like I said, that stuff did not go away. It didn't.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: They were kind of think of it like this, How
Speaker 5: many times did we hear about HARP, the HARP program
Speaker 5: for weather modification and stuff? And then they're like, oh,
Speaker 5: I promise you, like it's not real or Operation Midnight
Speaker 5: or like a lot of these things. They're like, oh yeah,
Speaker 5: we don't you know, Oh yeah, this this meeting and
Speaker 5: we don't do that anymore. But they still do and
Speaker 5: literally to this day, they still run experimentation in facilities
Speaker 5: because guess what, those people can't consent, so they bite
Speaker 5: ass consent completely exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So the diagnostic labels and specific cases, and like I said,
Speaker 5: labels are a big part of our society. I talk
Speaker 5: about that literally all the time. Where melancholia came to be,
Speaker 5: that was a you know, a word that they coined,
Speaker 5: a term that they coined. Raving madness was another one.
Speaker 5: Violent frenzy, epilepsy, and seizures were often not called that
Speaker 5: they were lumped into the insanity category. So these were
Speaker 5: all terms that were coined thanks to the development of
Speaker 5: madhouses that still play a role in today's psychiatric treatment.
Speaker 2: This is a like sculpture one of these plays. I
Speaker 2: believe this one was a Bedlam And I'm like, can
Speaker 2: we be more unsympathetic.
Speaker 5: Right, and to charge the public admission to come in
Speaker 5: and see the people that you have chained up naked
Speaker 5: on the floor or like the picture that you showed
Speaker 5: in our last episode where they were blood letting someone
Speaker 5: on the floor. You know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, so, uh,
Speaker 5: there's been really well documented cases of people that were
Speaker 5: at Bedlam that you know, one of the most famous
Speaker 5: was John or James Norris. There's also Jean Henry Latude
Speaker 5: and Marcus Marquis de Sade. Those were two at different facilities.
Speaker 5: But you can actually read accounts from these people who
Speaker 5: were patients inside of these facilities and what they experienced
Speaker 5: and what they witnessed and whatever. Now they're lucky they
Speaker 5: got out.
Speaker 3: This is the first guy you mentioned, supposedly like a radition.
Speaker 5: James Norris, and so very oftentimes patients would get committed
Speaker 5: and then they would never ever be released. And you'll
Speaker 5: see why a lot of that happened here in a
Speaker 5: little bit. Could it have been medication related?
Speaker 2: How about how about all of the above.
Speaker 3: They were drinking a ton, all this crazy stuff and
Speaker 3: then they're like, huh, I wonder what's wrong with society?
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so, like I said, most of the people
Speaker 5: that got out that were able to their stories, good
Speaker 5: on them, because most people actually died when they were
Speaker 5: committed to asylums and they didn't have visitors. So it's
Speaker 5: like throwaway members of society where we just put them
Speaker 5: in there and left them literally forever, and whatever happened,
Speaker 5: what if to them?
Speaker 3: What if melancholia is just withdrawal because the drugs ran out,
Speaker 3: or their special syrup to have codeine and morphine and.
Speaker 2: Crazy shit in it. Like what if it was that?
Speaker 3: Because you see this happen time and time again with
Speaker 3: who rich people oh.
Speaker 5: Access one hundred percent or like during even the pandemic times,
Speaker 5: right when everything was shut down and people weren't supposed
Speaker 5: to go out and whatever, and you would see these
Speaker 5: celebrities right and posting videos and whatnot. Where they were
Speaker 5: they either looked like completely different people, like they had
Speaker 5: been road hard and put away with if you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, like seriously different facial features, bizarre behavior
Speaker 5: like all of that stuff. And people always used to
Speaker 5: joke that maybe they're adrenochrome.
Speaker 6: Like.
Speaker 5: Wasn't available during that time since everybody was supposed to
Speaker 5: be staying at home. So since we talked about like
Speaker 5: in the Archaic Apothecary episode, the last one that we did,
Speaker 5: and we talked about like all of the things that
Speaker 5: people were on and you know, the the cocaine and
Speaker 5: coke and literally all the potions and whatever, So could
Speaker 5: they have created their own problem? Absolutely, we do have
Speaker 5: something to people today. We put them on medications that
Speaker 5: change their chemical makeup of their brain. And then we're like, oh,
Speaker 5: maybe you're broken. Maybe we shouldn't admit you to the
Speaker 5: psych word for you know, for a whole that's quick. Sure, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: because you're a little crazy, you're not your normal self.
Speaker 2: That one didn't turn out so good.
Speaker 3: But oh well, what is the anatomy of melancholy? Like
Speaker 3: we said, I think it's withdrawal, to be honest.
Speaker 5: I think that you are probably very heading on a
Speaker 5: hot button topic right there, ding ding ding over the
Speaker 5: target bullseye.
Speaker 3: And then you go in this place and you're like, shit,
Speaker 3: I'm confined now I'm screwed.
Speaker 2: So then you're really depressed.
Speaker 5: Right and that becomes your reality is life inside the asylum.
Speaker 5: And so a lot of times, even if a patient
Speaker 5: may seem well enough to be released, it didn't happen.
Speaker 5: And why is that? Because a physician would have to
Speaker 5: sign off on your release papers like they do in
Speaker 5: modern time. Physicians are a little too busy, they don't
Speaker 5: have time. We get this. Physicians were paid per patient.
Speaker 2: Nice, so kind of them all to go home.
Speaker 5: Kind of like anytime the government is involved in schools
Speaker 5: and stuff, especially, what are they called like the specialty
Speaker 5: schools that they set up, they pay per head for child,
Speaker 5: so like during COVID times when they're enrollment dropped because
Speaker 5: they didn't have as many students, or if parents are
Speaker 5: pulling their children out of schools to homeschool them, that
Speaker 5: school loses out on tons of money. So same thing
Speaker 5: with the crazy words back in the day. They didn't
Speaker 5: want to let go of those dollars, and especially dollars
Speaker 5: from the government, right because even they're wink wink private facilities.
Speaker 5: Who do you think is funding them? I don't know,
Speaker 5: especially patients who like their family just dumped them off
Speaker 5: and never ever came back. They're not getting out a problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah you're a problem.
Speaker 5: Or the chronic label being applied to people blocked discharged permanently,
Speaker 5: and so if they had in your chart at any
Speaker 5: place where you were chronic, you were a resident permanently
Speaker 5: and they're lovely, beautiful dirt field facility, Yes, lovely. Patients
Speaker 5: who did improved were often kept anyway. They didn't let
Speaker 5: them go because again, hello money, or they kind of
Speaker 5: like the Pharmacia rebranded episode, they reclassified or re labeled
Speaker 5: them as something else even if they didn't qualify under
Speaker 5: that they would rebrand them under a new label to
Speaker 5: be able to keep them even longer. And then, oh
Speaker 5: my gosh, now we got to treat them for something
Speaker 5: they don't.
Speaker 3: Have unless you're on the third or fourth or fifth tier.
Speaker 3: Of course, the first and second tier they're going to
Speaker 3: be there a long time. But these these ones above,
Speaker 3: this isn't French, so I wanted to explain it, but
Speaker 3: it's just basically societal, you.
Speaker 2: Know, the way it is the.
Speaker 5: YEP and that was that was a big thing because
Speaker 5: they didn't want homeless people on the streets. They didn't
Speaker 5: want poor people on the streets, and so what better
Speaker 5: way to put them in asylum and force them into
Speaker 5: force labor, because if you refused, they're working in the
Speaker 5: laundries or a warehouse or a facility of any kind,
Speaker 5: and you refused, that's when you would get worse treatment
Speaker 5: than what you were already getting. And I can't imagine
Speaker 5: your treatment getting worse than sleeping in a cold room
Speaker 5: with no heat on the floor being chained to a wall.
Speaker 3: I thought this one was a good example of what
Speaker 3: you're saying, the trade in lunacy rightly, Like, oh okay, literally,
Speaker 3: these people became a commodity.
Speaker 5: Well, and that's funny that you said that, because even
Speaker 5: people that did get better, they wouldn't release them. They
Speaker 5: would trade them or transfer them to other facilities, and
Speaker 5: then that second facility would trade them someone back. So
Speaker 5: they always kept their numbers the same. So they were
Speaker 5: literally treating them like cattle, like numbered cattle, because it's
Speaker 5: more money for them, of course.
Speaker 3: So and meanwhile they're giving them shit like this, and
Speaker 3: they're out of their mind, and then you take it
Speaker 3: away and then.
Speaker 5: And then you wonder why they're having withdrawal symptoms exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
Speaker 5: Treatment in these facilities really reflects what they think about
Speaker 5: the underclass people, right, yes, And so it's more about
Speaker 5: segregation and control definitely not care. And so the purpose
Speaker 5: is to remove people from public view Exactlyeople that were
Speaker 5: in embarrassment to their family or you know, deviance. Right, Hello,
Speaker 5: I'd be in there again more. And so they weren't
Speaker 5: really people that needed treatment at all. It was just
Speaker 5: that they were deemed an underclass of a citizen. And
Speaker 5: so what what better way to like clean up society And.
Speaker 3: Here's a good way, here's a good way to clean
Speaker 3: up society.
Speaker 5: Well, this is this is part of one of the
Speaker 5: treatments that they talk about. And so the medical theories
Speaker 5: at the time believed that we had a humor imbalance.
Speaker 5: And I don't mean humor as in funny. It's now
Speaker 5: what you would call your oh my gosh, I just
Speaker 5: had a brain fart.
Speaker 2: Homeostatasis.
Speaker 5: So back in the day, they called it a humor imbalance.
Speaker 2: And so humor imbalances today, I have news for people.
Speaker 5: That is very true. But that's because people have no
Speaker 5: sense of humor anymore, a real sense of humor. So
Speaker 5: along with the humor imbalance, which is what is making
Speaker 5: people quote unquote crazy, they also believe that people had
Speaker 5: to excess blood and that is what causes their madness
Speaker 5: or uh, way right, it's me because I'm too bloody.
Speaker 5: And so that's where the blood letting came into play,
Speaker 5: because they thought that people had too much blood and
Speaker 5: that's what would make them crazy. So vomit inducing drugs
Speaker 5: were giving to people because they thought that you could
Speaker 5: vomit out the bad m Okay, what could possibly go wrong?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but if they were doing this to me,
Speaker 3: I would I would be concerned.
Speaker 2: I let's have your arms.
Speaker 5: Let me see your arm, right, let's let me get
Speaker 5: into a bowl.
Speaker 2: But here's my question.
Speaker 3: With all the talk of vampires back then, and I
Speaker 3: know people are going to think this is a little
Speaker 3: wu but look, I'm not saying real vampires. I mean
Speaker 3: I am, but we're talking about coult stuff, like what
Speaker 3: a great way for them to get what they need?
Speaker 5: Well, and think about it in this aspect too, because
Speaker 5: I mentioned a dream of chrome earlier. So were these
Speaker 5: facilities away for them to set up their constant especially
Speaker 5: with the blood letting stuff of their constant flow of blood?
Speaker 5: Now right, this has not made up. This is the
Speaker 5: real thing. They're real documented in history where it's children
Speaker 5: or whatever, celebrities talk about drinking their partner's blood the
Speaker 5: whole nine yards. So are you off base at all?
Speaker 5: Absolutely not.
Speaker 3: I mean, I look, there's new Epstein files out about
Speaker 3: blood and Mormons, So I'm just saying shit is weird.
Speaker 3: And so whether or not people want to believe that,
Speaker 3: that's up to them. But here's their lovely tools for
Speaker 3: a janet. Oh yeah, what is that's blood letting tools?
Speaker 3: And I'm like, this doesn't look like the things I
Speaker 3: think I would have needed.
Speaker 2: Well, and how do you know what the keys are for?
Speaker 5: Well, and that's what I was looking at, or what
Speaker 5: exactly to keep it open a vein? I don't what's
Speaker 5: the box for.
Speaker 2: I don't even know? Said blood letting tools and they're
Speaker 2: all nasty.
Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, of course, because there was no sterilization
Speaker 5: and stuff. So if they if they cut their arms
Speaker 5: open to blood let you because you have hot, excess blood,
Speaker 5: too much blood, they're cutting you with a tool that
Speaker 5: they just used on somebody else or that's been on
Speaker 5: the dirty floor or whatever. So I wonder why not
Speaker 5: very many people actually got out of the asylums.
Speaker 3: Well, like, what kind of diseases are we talking here?
Speaker 3: And if somebody is hypothetically I'm just gonna say, hypothetically
Speaker 3: consuming it in one form or another.
Speaker 2: Whoa, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, and think about this too. We all have
Speaker 5: different blood types, right abo, and whether it's positive negative,
Speaker 5: all of that kind of stuff, And if you have
Speaker 5: a transfusion or anything, you have to worry about a
Speaker 5: cross reaction, right so they have to monitor you like
Speaker 5: every ten to fifteen minutes to make sure you're not
Speaker 5: reacting to blood. So if you are in that society
Speaker 5: where you want to partake of someone else's blood, would
Speaker 5: you not also need to be concerned about a cross reaction?
Speaker 3: These I guess are bladed knives. I had to look
Speaker 3: it up because I'm like, what the hell is this?
Speaker 3: And it's called a bloodstick to make the quick incision
Speaker 3: these wooden instruments, so those things are would.
Speaker 2: Also sounds like a bad plan.
Speaker 3: Also sounds like a bad plan, right, but it also
Speaker 3: it also makes me wonder with this new and people
Speaker 3: can go to my ex to check out these documents
Speaker 3: with this whole Stine blood thing is so weird. But
Speaker 3: you know, they were talking about getting it from Mormons
Speaker 3: in Utah and I'm like, well, seventy percent of people
Speaker 3: in Utah have oh blood, So therefore you would be
Speaker 3: safer than most other places.
Speaker 5: Because your universal donor.
Speaker 3: Yes, so only the negative and positive business is the
Speaker 3: matter of anything, and otherwise you're pretty safe.
Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, well, I don't think I'm just gonna
Speaker 5: throw this out there. I don't think I want anybody,
Speaker 5: oh no blood, let me with a wooden.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't stick. Yeah, no, you're not interested?
Speaker 5: Yeah no, no, absolutely not. I think I'll definitely mean yes,
Speaker 5: definitely from the dirty instruments as well, just saying.
Speaker 2: How about how about the vomity? I swear this is
Speaker 2: just turned into ayahuasca.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, and it's and and okay, so they're like,
Speaker 5: you got something bad inside of you, let's give you
Speaker 5: this stuff to make you vomit. I want to know
Speaker 5: what the hell did they do with the vomit of
Speaker 5: all the people that they were making vomit? And I
Speaker 5: know this is gross and somebody's going to lose their
Speaker 5: shit over this. However, a long time to read.
Speaker 2: The Epstein files if you don't want to hear this.
Speaker 5: I was going to say, a long time ago, Heidi
Speaker 5: and I did an episode about a specific facility where
Speaker 5: they were feeding people nuclear radiated oats Quaker oats to
Speaker 5: be exact, and so they could observe them and watch them.
Speaker 5: And in the same facility they were also giving people
Speaker 5: hepatitis to see like how they would react. So are
Speaker 5: are they reusing these people's vomit and feeding it back
Speaker 5: to them? Because there wasn't there wasn't a lot of food.
Speaker 5: They barely ever fed them. I'm sure they didn't spend obviously,
Speaker 5: because the facilities were very dark and dirty and no
Speaker 5: heat and all of that stuff. So I'm sure they
Speaker 5: didn't spend a lot of money on food.
Speaker 2: That brings a whole new meaning to the word gruel.
Speaker 5: Is that how it got its name. I'm just saying,
Speaker 5: I know that's gross for some people. But there wasn't
Speaker 5: sanitation back in the day like there is now, definitely not,
Speaker 5: so that had to go somewhere. I'm just saying, terrible.
Speaker 5: So why did they choose to experiment on the people
Speaker 5: that were locked away in these places? They didn't operate
Speaker 5: rate under ethical standards by any way, shape or form,
Speaker 5: and so people in these places were considered legally incompetent,
Speaker 5: so you couldn't possibly give consent on your own wards
Speaker 5: of the state. Or they could have been morally defective
Speaker 5: or expendable for medical advancement. That's how their families deemed
Speaker 5: them to be as medically, you know, as expendable, because
Speaker 5: they we don't like Aunt Lucy, so we're just going
Speaker 5: to lock our way in the cuckoo farm.
Speaker 3: And these are real people, like these are people that
Speaker 3: just got left.
Speaker 5: That's so sad, and so if you think about it,
Speaker 5: it's like the ideal population for them to run fucked
Speaker 5: up experiments on which, sweet baby Jesus, they have done
Speaker 5: this all throughout history on oh people, Okay, not just
Speaker 5: in the asylums, but other places that were also going
Speaker 5: to cover and and like I said, Heidi and I
Speaker 5: covered this a long time ago on a show specific
Speaker 5: places that did like crazy ass shit to people.
Speaker 2: Oh, and so.
Speaker 5: Experimentation back in the day they did like somatic and
Speaker 5: restraint based experiments, so prolonged uh, chaining and immobilization to
Speaker 5: observe quote unquote calming effects on people. And how that worked? Now,
Speaker 5: did they have the kind of chains where if you
Speaker 5: moved it makes it tighter?
Speaker 2: Well, I'll show you one guy.
Speaker 3: Here, let's see there's more blood, more blood, let fabulous.
Speaker 2: Uh, And here's some chained up people.
Speaker 3: And you just have to look at this and go, really,
Speaker 3: is this gonna make you vil any better?
Speaker 2: I'm just curious, right? And you box on your head, right?
Speaker 5: And how the okay? So this is traumatizing, right, and
Speaker 5: when you have right, when you have a trauma, does
Speaker 5: it not raise your heart rate and stuff?
Speaker 2: You know you're going to go?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 5: And so how long did they leave these people chained
Speaker 5: up or whatever.
Speaker 2: Long enough she has a potty thing to get.
Speaker 5: The quote unquote calming effect that they're looking for.
Speaker 3: Well, he's got a potty catcher, so long enough to
Speaker 3: ship yourself.
Speaker 5: He could be sitting there for a while. So another
Speaker 5: thing that they like to do to people is rotational therapy.
Speaker 5: This would absolutely and do vomiting for me without me.
Speaker 2: So they use this stick, I guess.
Speaker 5: Putting somebody in a spinning chair until either vomiting or unconsciousness.
Speaker 3: I would learn how to fake unconsciousness or learn to
Speaker 3: puke quick.
Speaker 5: I would absolutely because I I can't do like that
Speaker 5: kind of stuff like at all. It makes me very ill,
Speaker 5: and so I would probably puke like the second time
Speaker 5: around in the chair, just saying that's awful. That's some
Speaker 5: fucked up torture kind of shit. Sorry cuss words, but
Speaker 5: I'm just saying this stuff annoys me. Yeah, kind of
Speaker 5: like we talked about on a previous episode with the
Speaker 5: extended cold immersion therapy. So we go hours two days
Speaker 5: in tubs that were.
Speaker 2: To they're feeding them and everything in here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so of course make them calm. And so have
Speaker 5: you ever sat in the bathtub before when the water
Speaker 5: got chilly, and they really leave them in there for
Speaker 5: hours or days.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5: So I can imagine the risk of hypothermia was probably great.
Speaker 5: And then back in the day they didn't know how
Speaker 5: to treat hypothermia, so I can understand why a lot
Speaker 5: of patients would die from that.
Speaker 2: So there's another here's another spinny that's a.
Speaker 5: Real that's awful. I can't that'd be like being in
Speaker 5: a bird cage and just.
Speaker 2: On Life magazine like these are real? Yeah?
Speaker 5: And where? And the thing is you said that was
Speaker 5: a cover of Life magazine. How sick is our society
Speaker 5: that they're just so numb to that they see that
Speaker 5: and they're just like, oh, it's yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if you got down to the
Speaker 3: end of it. For women, if you were a crazy
Speaker 3: lady in the spinacherir, you got the cold douche before
Speaker 3: you got to go.
Speaker 2: Oh, hence the fluid there that is.
Speaker 5: And what did they use as the fluid?
Speaker 2: I don't even know, Probably some hepatitis.
Speaker 5: So not only did they do the chains and the
Speaker 5: restraints and the safe or straight jackets, and the rotational
Speaker 5: therapy and the cold therapy, but they and the blood letting.
Speaker 5: But they also used electrical experimentation on people. And so
Speaker 5: there's galvanic and ferotic, and so ferotic means alternating interrupted current,
Speaker 5: and then the other one is the galvanic means continuous
Speaker 5: direct current.
Speaker 6: And so.
Speaker 5: This was just to the head, the spine and the gentitles.
Speaker 2: Of course, you know, I.
Speaker 5: Have a fetish thing to say about that.
Speaker 2: But Mormons, the Mormon prophet Dellan A.
Speaker 3: Jokes actually gotten deep shit for trying to ungaye people
Speaker 3: by doing the same thing, hooking them up to electricity
Speaker 3: and their genitals and shocking them. And he's the current
Speaker 3: prophet of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints.
Speaker 5: One hundred percent, and so, uh, think about that, like
Speaker 5: different kinds of current being run through your gentitles. Hello men,
Speaker 5: and your volleyballs. This was to restore nervous tone, is
Speaker 5: what they said, or suppressed sexual behavior. No standardized dosing
Speaker 5: took effect, and the effects were only documented after they
Speaker 5: shocked the living day.
Speaker 2: It's out of people, tell you yourself, probably.
Speaker 5: And so this is what gave them the fantastic idea
Speaker 5: to start using shock electroshock therapy on people to try
Speaker 5: to normalize their behavior. Make normal, just saying, so how
Speaker 5: about this? Uh, Chemical and drug trials were also conducted
Speaker 5: in all of the facilities, again because the patients cannot
Speaker 5: consent and they're confined and they can't go anywhere, and
Speaker 5: so it's basically like putting a snake in a cage
Speaker 5: with a mouse and observing, and that is exactly what
Speaker 5: they do with these.
Speaker 3: Well, and if it made you high, wouldn't you rather
Speaker 3: be high if you were stuck in there, because I would,
Speaker 3: I just I would like to be high.
Speaker 2: But I'm just.
Speaker 5: Saying one hundred percent. So we're going to get deeper
Speaker 5: into the drug stuff, but I want to go over
Speaker 5: some other experimentation before we get into the drugs. Gynecological
Speaker 5: experimentation on women was a big, big deal. So, like
Speaker 5: you said earlier, women that were considered to be hysterical,
Speaker 5: or you got this underwear menopause whatever, if you're.
Speaker 3: A chronic masturbator, you get this lovely outfit here so
Speaker 3: you can't get to the business. And it looks almost
Speaker 3: like Marmon garments, which made me laugh.
Speaker 5: It's absolutely does. That's the first thing that it sparked
Speaker 5: my attention.
Speaker 2: But the genitals are locked up. You guys.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you can see there's extra padding
Speaker 3: and stuff.
Speaker 5: And since the first chastity belts were developed in the
Speaker 5: insane asylums, because chastity belts, you would be locked up
Speaker 5: like that as well, so you could not lose your virginity.
Speaker 2: So here's the men if you want to touch yourself
Speaker 2: and your dude mm hmm.
Speaker 5: With with the chicky dos, forced pelvic examinations. Uh, removing
Speaker 5: the clip completely. Show the other cultures that we've talked
Speaker 5: about on the show before that do that and do
Speaker 5: genital mutilation to take away your pleasure center. They were
Speaker 5: doing these in the asylums.
Speaker 3: They considered it was it was going to kill you.
Speaker 3: It was self abuse. I barely got these photos. It
Speaker 3: flagged it like four times.
Speaker 5: And it was like, oh, it's searching out violence and whatever.
Speaker 3: Anybody ever says some stuff about my phone. This is
Speaker 3: probably the program they were but anyway, whatever.
Speaker 2: But it won't let you look it.
Speaker 3: And it also said that they were terrified you were
Speaker 3: going to become a lesbian.
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't have to worry about that. Literally just investigating
Speaker 5: for a show.
Speaker 3: So no on this they literally said, if you were
Speaker 3: gonna have chronic masturbation. You were going to be a
Speaker 3: lesbian And I'm like, because men didn't know how, that's
Speaker 3: my guess.
Speaker 5: Alrighty, then well.
Speaker 3: I was hysterically funny to read some of this not funny?
Speaker 3: What happened to the people?
Speaker 5: No, I don't. Along with removing their cleatoris they would
Speaker 5: also do an oupherectomy, which is removing your ovaries.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: And they thought that was to cure insanity because women
Speaker 5: and ovaries and you just equates to hysteria and stuff.
Speaker 2: So I have to tell a tiny story about my family.
Speaker 3: Because it's sad and it gets buried in time, and
Speaker 3: I think it's some real horseshit.
Speaker 2: So my aunt and her.
Speaker 3: Husband were a little too related, because everybody became so
Speaker 3: related with polygamy that they didn't know. They were like,
Speaker 3: it wasn't like they married their brother's sir, because they thought, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 5: This was like, it's because you lily lost track of
Speaker 5: your family tree.
Speaker 3: Yes, and all the family trees were very similar, and
Speaker 3: it was so bad for a while. And so my
Speaker 3: aunt got married and they didn't know, and they had
Speaker 3: some kids and they got one really great one and
Speaker 3: not that it's defective or not great.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about mentally.
Speaker 3: One really smart kid, one kid that was a little slow,
Speaker 3: and then they had a very slow daughter that needed
Speaker 3: a hospitalization and stuff in it intermntly through her life.
Speaker 3: But my aunt wanted to raise them and be a
Speaker 3: good mother and keep them with her. And so her
Speaker 3: oldest child that was high functioning, he got hit by car.
Speaker 3: And this is that long ago, I would say, this
Speaker 3: is the early fifties, and that brought CPS or whatever
Speaker 3: it was back in the day out there to their
Speaker 3: home because he got hit by car, which it was
Speaker 3: just a random accident, and so they came in and
Speaker 3: saw the other two kids were not high functioning, and
Speaker 3: they took them away. And there was this huge eugenics
Speaker 3: thing that happened in Utah that people don't understand. Doctor
Speaker 3: George E.
Speaker 2: Hyde.
Speaker 3: Okay, for anybody that's a Mormon, Orson Hyde was hugely important.
Speaker 3: He was one of the top people and the founders
Speaker 3: of the church. So you know, his son gets really
Speaker 3: involved in this whole eugenics program, and Utah was one
Speaker 3: of the top people participating in for sterilization. So they
Speaker 3: took these kids away from my aunt they were like
Speaker 3: maybe like nine to twelve or something. They were a
Speaker 3: little broken before they went. When they came home. My one,
Speaker 3: he was he was fairly functional, you know, he was
Speaker 3: just a tiny bit slow, like he wasn't he was functional, okay.
Speaker 3: When he came home, they had sterilized him, sterilized her,
Speaker 3: and all these horrible things to him, and they were
Speaker 3: never okay ever again.
Speaker 5: And I want to know, what in the world is
Speaker 5: it about Utah? Because like that show that we did
Speaker 5: together before, we talked about uh eugenics colonies in Utah,
Speaker 5: you guys are the pilot program for AI prescription. You're
Speaker 5: on the pilot test grounds for AI.
Speaker 2: Doctors and for weather modification.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so what what is it about Utall?
Speaker 3: I wished I knew, but I can tell you it's something,
Speaker 3: and I'm assuming I do know, which is their alignment
Speaker 3: with the government and their alignment with shady characters throughout
Speaker 3: time clear back to the Mayflower By the way, people,
Speaker 3: this is not a new thing.
Speaker 2: And these families, you know.
Speaker 3: Most of the Mormon hierarchy is first family Mayflower people.
Speaker 3: And so if you didn't know that, you should know
Speaker 3: that because it's important and this blood that they seek
Speaker 3: this holy Grail business, which if you guys don't realize,
Speaker 3: you got to go check out my shows.
Speaker 2: But it is seriously sad what they've.
Speaker 3: Done to a lot of people here in the sake
Speaker 3: of saving you. My aunt had to fight. If she
Speaker 3: wasn't most people gave up and just let the asylum
Speaker 3: have them forever. Like you said, my aunt went to
Speaker 3: court and went to court, and they didn't have money,
Speaker 3: and she did it anyway, and she got her kids back.
Speaker 3: But by the time she got her kids back, they
Speaker 3: were mutilated down there, so and.
Speaker 5: Perfect aligning with eugenics because they don't want slower people repopulating. Nope,
Speaker 5: covered that on your shirt episode. But that's another part
Speaker 5: of this is the eugenics operation that they were doing
Speaker 5: in these asylums with the for sterilization, hormone manipulation, surgical
Speaker 5: calming procedures, so removing the hysteria, removing the male components,
Speaker 5: or they would run nutritional deprivation studies. So if we
Speaker 5: deprived you of food and water, how fast could it
Speaker 5: kill you to get rid of you? Well, and look
Speaker 5: at this they think about our manipulation of our Look.
Speaker 3: At this is from Time magazine you guys, this isn't
Speaker 3: cuckoo cut chow thing. This is from this is in
Speaker 3: nineteen forty six.
Speaker 5: Well, and like I said, these kind of things were
Speaker 5: going on until the nineteen nineties, and a lot of places.
Speaker 5: How do you let it.
Speaker 6: Go on that long and not how do you how
Speaker 6: do you be a doctor or nurse here or a
Speaker 6: flora scrubber and not leave and say this is not okay,
Speaker 6: something is wrong.
Speaker 5: Like I would go straight to a journal.
Speaker 2: I would make a stand.
Speaker 5: There have been stories and I can't remember what the
Speaker 5: woman's name is, but she had heard about the asylums
Speaker 5: and how awful they treated patients and whatnot, so she
Speaker 5: thought she would go undercover as a jewel. I did
Speaker 5: see a facility and I can't. I cannot, for the
Speaker 5: life of me remember what her name was.
Speaker 2: She spent ten days in there. I remember that. I
Speaker 2: can't remember.
Speaker 5: And so there, you know, and it's like trying really
Speaker 5: hard to keep her in the facility and all of
Speaker 5: that stuff. They don't want the information to get out
Speaker 5: about these places, or even if they did, Like I said,
Speaker 5: there are a lot of them government funded, government ran
Speaker 5: and so the government's like, well, we can't you know, we're.
Speaker 3: Not going to Nellie Blygh is her name, and that
Speaker 3: was in eighteen eighty seven. She went undercover at the
Speaker 3: Blackwell Island Insane Asylum in New York to expose horrific
Speaker 3: abuse for ten days.
Speaker 5: There was actually a movie about that that I saw.
Speaker 2: Ten Days in a Madhouse is what it was.
Speaker 5: The book anyway, But it's like, would the government want
Speaker 5: to lose their funding? Would they want so? Did they
Speaker 5: block journalists from coming in? Did they discourage family members
Speaker 5: if there was family members to still visit because they
Speaker 5: don't want to lose their experimentation population and they don't
Speaker 5: want to lose their money funnel.
Speaker 3: I think this one shows it pretty good, like, Okay,
Speaker 3: we've got the people on the floor clearly working on
Speaker 3: the situation, but we've got the fancy rich people there,
Speaker 3: we've got the little shady character, we've got a magician.
Speaker 2: I felt like this one was really a good.
Speaker 3: Representation of probably what the majority was doing, which was
Speaker 3: just watching, just like now, when everybody sees some horrific
Speaker 3: thing happen, they just all get out of their phones.
Speaker 2: What the f is wrong with you that you didn't intervene?
Speaker 2: I would probably go to jail because I would intervene me.
Speaker 5: Too, one hundred percent. But we're so enamored with like
Speaker 5: show and tell, right, Oh my god, I can't wait
Speaker 5: to video this to like show her my friends or
Speaker 5: post on social media. As you're watching somebody get murdered
Speaker 5: or baiting to death or whatever and you're not doing
Speaker 5: anything about it.
Speaker 2: Horrific.
Speaker 3: I understand videoing for documentation, but somebody needs to stop
Speaker 3: the act.
Speaker 2: Everybody doesn't need to do that. Come on, draft out
Speaker 2: the video. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: So technically speaking, yes, you could leave an asylum. But
Speaker 5: did people very often get out? No, they did it,
Speaker 5: and like I said, it's because they don't want to
Speaker 5: let their cash cowgo. They don't want to let those
Speaker 5: things out in the public. They don't want that expose
Speaker 5: from the newspapers and all of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: Now what is this that we're looking at here?
Speaker 3: Oh, I just threw this one up because you're talking
Speaker 3: about the horrors of it. This one is about pitch
Speaker 3: black rooms and isolation.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming this.
Speaker 3: Is, you know, the early MKA altering of people that
Speaker 3: this was a big Pian treatment.
Speaker 5: So this was from the Daily Chronicle in London back
Speaker 5: in eighteen eighty five and it says Victorian doctors lock
Speaker 5: patients and pitch black rooms. Tragic end for many. And
Speaker 5: it's still some time.
Speaker 2: Like they didn't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah they right, Well, I'm saying if they can't get
Speaker 5: to a circus side show, where else would they get
Speaker 5: their entertainment from. If they couldn't go watch people change
Speaker 5: the walls and getting blood leaded or force vomited.
Speaker 3: Or getting your they are wondering why you're massurbating and
Speaker 3: they give you an electric course.
Speaker 5: So what I was going to say earlier about the
Speaker 5: fetish thing, I think that was the early day, since
Speaker 5: they were doing the electrouh torture of genitals and stuff
Speaker 5: like that, and like I said, they developed the electroshock
Speaker 5: therapy for the brain and stuff during the this time.
Speaker 5: I think this is also where the fetish community came
Speaker 5: in because they have electro torture that there's a whole
Speaker 5: group of people that enjoy like shocking the shit out
Speaker 5: of their genitals or somebody else's genitals or whatever. So
Speaker 5: is this where it started?
Speaker 3: Oh a hundred and there was like some crazy cures
Speaker 3: from doctors just FYI where they would perform if you
Speaker 3: were too prudish oral sex on women. Yep, I'm like
Speaker 3: what and then you get mad when she wants to
Speaker 3: touch it.
Speaker 5: You're the one I taught her, you din, she didn't
Speaker 5: even know and.
Speaker 2: Try to cook her rice over there. I don't know.
Speaker 5: And was that, uh, was that training that was being
Speaker 5: taught in medical schools to or really stimulate your patients
Speaker 5: or was that this decided on by a creepy group
Speaker 5: of doctors who were using that to get their rocks
Speaker 5: off basically by doing this to patients. And then were
Speaker 5: they in turn, the women that were part of this
Speaker 5: quote unquote treatment, were they then put in an asylum
Speaker 5: because a doctor did that to them and the woman
Speaker 5: was considered stepping out on her marriage.
Speaker 2: And and so you guys know they were they thought they.
Speaker 5: Trying to get more patients.
Speaker 3: They were making sure your womb didn't wander about your body,
Speaker 3: because it's elusive and it gets to wander all about.
Speaker 3: And so in ancient Greece in the nineteenth century, it
Speaker 3: was believed that your uterus could wander around, causing anxiety
Speaker 3: and mood swings oooh, and in omnia. Doctors thought that
Speaker 3: clearing the fluids out with an orchasm would return the
Speaker 3: uterus to its proper place, So pelvic massages or hysteria.
Speaker 3: I don't know that that would make me less hysterical.
Speaker 3: I'm just seeing or the oral fix, okay, was what
Speaker 3: they did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so they were doing a literal little finger bang.
Speaker 2: A lot of it. I think I think it was.
Speaker 5: Rough stuffs if it would just stay where it's supposed
Speaker 5: to and so wander my butt, you.
Speaker 3: Know, yep, saying it's going up in your titties or
Speaker 3: wherever causing you insomnia.
Speaker 2: Uh, maybe it's because you are cool.
Speaker 3: It's the middle of the nineteenth century and your ass
Speaker 3: has a piss because you probably had a baby in
Speaker 3: the most horrific way.
Speaker 2: Who knows well?
Speaker 5: And like I said, was this purposely planned to get
Speaker 5: them more patience because the finger banging and the kind
Speaker 5: of lingus did not work, and they're like, oh, these
Speaker 5: women have to fix it, hysterical. We should the worse
Speaker 5: so we could remove their business.
Speaker 2: They're worse now, we can't fix it.
Speaker 5: Or did they or were they like a group like
Speaker 5: I said, of doctors that were thinking yeah, and they
Speaker 5: and they got away with it for how long?
Speaker 3: This was why the invention of the vibrator happened, ladies,
Speaker 3: So just up my eye on that one.
Speaker 2: They made that because maybe their tongues got tired.
Speaker 5: Well, they're working with electricity, so you know. Yeah, but
Speaker 5: I can imagine what the first ones would be like.
Speaker 5: They were probably hooked up to like a car batg
Speaker 5: oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think they locked up the Marquis de Sade, right,
Speaker 3: this is him, and he was a kinky mofo, and
Speaker 3: I think they were like, so tell us about your craziness,
Speaker 3: and he's like, you want to hear my story?
Speaker 2: And then he told the kinky word.
Speaker 3: Doctors, and they're like, maybe we should try it.
Speaker 2: Sounds like he's up to something good. Let's write the.
Speaker 5: Exactly and and who knows, Like, well that could have
Speaker 5: opened up a whole new uh meaning for malpractice, right,
Speaker 5: but you said the word opened up? But yeah, well yeah,
Speaker 5: he's trying to open her up like a flowers what
Speaker 5: he was doing.
Speaker 2: And scary enough.
Speaker 3: Just you know, the whole reason why women give birth
Speaker 3: on their backs is because some king got off watching
Speaker 3: all that shit, Like come on, now, this is not normal.
Speaker 3: Like look, I'm not saying sex isn't normal. I'm just
Speaker 3: saying what they were doing to that extent was.
Speaker 5: Not normal will and laying on your back is not
Speaker 5: a normal position.
Speaker 2: There, it's so bad. Yeah, no, so none of this.
Speaker 5: Is I don't know. So because of all of this,
Speaker 5: doctors and their creepy ways, UH would refer to people
Speaker 5: as material, so you were kind of like they're belonging
Speaker 5: as cases instead of an individual or person as subjects
Speaker 5: or chronic stock.
Speaker 6: Yo.
Speaker 5: And so think about this. You're you're a woman that's
Speaker 5: prudish because you've been raised to to realize that you know,
Speaker 5: you shouldn't be keep it on low.
Speaker 2: Masturbation is going to kill you.
Speaker 5: Itly, you know what I mean. So that's your morals,
Speaker 5: your values, you were raised that way. And so then
Speaker 5: you have a doctor that is literally sexually assaulting you lially,
Speaker 5: so I could understand why a woman would probably be
Speaker 5: hysterical after that.
Speaker 3: Well, and some of the contraptions, like I couldn't download
Speaker 3: a bunch of them because it wouldn't.
Speaker 5: Freaking muney right because it's considered gore and violence.
Speaker 2: It was saying I was being a creeper basically.
Speaker 3: But some of the stuff they did to you guys too, pooh,
Speaker 3: but women for sure, Like like you were saying about
Speaker 3: the chastity belts, you know, the Somalian tribes, they take
Speaker 3: a stick and they put it up there and they
Speaker 3: sow the women shut with the stick in there, and
Speaker 3: then when they have to have sex, they cut it
Speaker 3: out and do it again and again and again repeatedly.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's a nightmare. It's just hamburger flat weird.
Speaker 2: I can't it was.
Speaker 3: I was like, what, how are we gonna get the
Speaker 3: baby out of there?
Speaker 2: And then the doctor was like, I'm just gonna reduce it.
Speaker 2: It's just me. That's not a reduction, it's an opening.
Speaker 2: But whatever, right, so open it. But the husband had
Speaker 2: to do it. It was like a whole situation.
Speaker 7: Right that that he was so pissed that he was like, no,
Speaker 7: nobody opens her up at me. And the doctor was like,
Speaker 7: we're not doing that. I don't know what you're doing,
Speaker 7: but we're not doing that.
Speaker 5: Right, Sorry that you don't have surgery credentialing to work
Speaker 5: in our facility.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no care, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5: So, along with the other experiments that I talked about,
Speaker 5: a restraint restraint experimentation tested different kinds of restraint systems,
Speaker 5: and so iron collars were used versus leather collars, so
Speaker 5: they wanted to test neck erosion. Isn't that lovely versus
Speaker 5: compliance that is just looks leather to me.
Speaker 2: That has some screws on the side.
Speaker 5: So wrisked suspension versus ankle chaining upright restraints preventing sleep
Speaker 5: for behind, I don't collapse.
Speaker 2: I don't know what this man did, but.
Speaker 5: Holy shit, maybe he eats people and that's why he has.
Speaker 3: A This is like the story of had Alec had
Speaker 3: Silence of the Lambs.
Speaker 5: So I don't know that I would want them to
Speaker 5: upright restrain me so that I could never sleep. But
Speaker 5: that's the point. Cage beds designed to have one of
Speaker 5: the learned helplessness.
Speaker 2: I hope it's here. It's really straight.
Speaker 5: Was deliberately increased in length of time to observe psychological breakdown,
Speaker 5: submission and quieting of will Hullo to a stock institute anyway, Yeah, cage.
Speaker 3: If you don't make any noise. I have a cage
Speaker 3: bed and it didn't. If it didn't upload it, I'll
Speaker 3: upload it while we're chatting.
Speaker 5: In So isn't that nice that they they thought to
Speaker 5: be so thoughtful to do those kind of things. So
Speaker 5: who who in their right mind would go, you know what,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna put a cage on some patience and see
Speaker 5: if their neck will erode and fall apart it below?
Speaker 3: What are you lock you up to the point where
Speaker 3: you can't even breathe, move anything like what?
Speaker 5: And it said that it was common for them to
Speaker 5: keep patients restrained until they stopped resisting. So basically what
Speaker 5: that means is until they completely break your will, which
Speaker 5: what happens when you have no willpower you do whatever
Speaker 5: they want. And so how long did it take for
Speaker 5: some of those people to have their will broken to
Speaker 5: where they would just allow whatever anymore?
Speaker 3: Well? And honestly, like I get it, like you would
Speaker 3: be at that point where you're just like, fuck, man,
Speaker 3: I can't you know, I.
Speaker 5: Can't do this anymore because it's painful, Like if you're
Speaker 5: eroding my neck, you know, I'm just saying whatever.
Speaker 3: Well, and you're like, okay, I've seen like older shows
Speaker 3: that are real and they're like just stop fighting, and
Speaker 3: you're like, what, I don't know. Easier said than done,
Speaker 3: you know, because no matter if you do want to
Speaker 3: stop it or don't want to stop it. Like either way,
Speaker 3: if you're a certain kind of human being, you're you're
Speaker 3: programmed to.
Speaker 5: Like not just do right. So, uh, this was common
Speaker 5: especially and they called the chronic Did you find it?
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, it's like a giant crib with a lid.
Speaker 5: It does look like a giant crib that they just
Speaker 5: lock them in.
Speaker 2: There, open and shut the top and lock it down like.
Speaker 5: It's like a box. It would be like a coffin
Speaker 5: that you were in time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would freak me out.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't like yeah, because I mean and that would
Speaker 5: cause anxiety and hyper ventilation and all the things that would.
Speaker 3: And this one I'm as saying, I'm missing these ladies
Speaker 3: or guys or whatever are standing like this looks worse.
Speaker 5: That was that was the point. So along with all
Speaker 5: of these lovely things, they would run deprivation experiments, especially
Speaker 5: in chronic wards. So they would do food restrictions, uh,
Speaker 5: to reduce any kind of animal vitality that you have,
Speaker 5: so that animal instinct inside of you. They would cut
Speaker 5: off your food to make that stop isolation for weeks
Speaker 5: or months, so they would keep you by yourself completely
Speaker 5: sensory deprivation so we talked about the dark cells, padded rooms,
Speaker 5: anything like that, or enforced silence. And so doctors believed
Speaker 5: that madness was fueled by excess stimulation or desire, and
Speaker 5: so they if they could strip you of light and
Speaker 5: conversation and touch and all of the things, right, all
Speaker 5: of the comforts of home, clothing, identity, literally all that stuff,
Speaker 5: that you would start to comply again, breaking your will.
Speaker 5: And it said that a lot of the patients who
Speaker 5: went through the silence deprivation activities lost their speech completely
Speaker 5: because if you can't hear another human being and you
Speaker 5: can't hear yourself, your brain shuts that function off.
Speaker 2: Again, this is back to this one.
Speaker 5: So kind of like if you're if you're a coma
Speaker 5: patient and you've been in a coma for a really
Speaker 5: long time and you wake up, you have to relearn
Speaker 5: like how to speak or how to bathe or whatever,
Speaker 5: because your brain shuts all of that off as a
Speaker 5: defense mechanism keep you safe.
Speaker 2: Oh, so you're safe home, right, telling what they did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred and so also they would use hydrotherapy
Speaker 5: as controlled means of torture, and so ice baths last
Speaker 5: hours and so like hypothermia again would be an issue.
Speaker 5: I know people do ice bats and whatever to revitalize
Speaker 5: their system and stuff, but it's not meant to be
Speaker 5: for a prolonged extended period of time. You shouldn't do
Speaker 5: that very long because you can literally shut your body
Speaker 5: down like completely.
Speaker 3: Oh and this girl's face says that all these are
Speaker 3: the real pictures from Time magazine.
Speaker 2: Look at her face.
Speaker 5: Again, Time magazine, right magazine cover, And they don't care.
Speaker 3: They did a whole exposure on it. They were trying
Speaker 3: to actually they it was like hidden horror or something.
Speaker 3: They were actually trying. But that article is hard to
Speaker 3: get to because it blocks it.
Speaker 5: Right because they don't want you to know about our
Speaker 5: history and the things that happened in our history. Hello,
Speaker 5: use the wayback machine. How about this continuous flow cold
Speaker 5: water hoses? So like using what we would think of
Speaker 5: like nowadays as like fire truck hoses to just literally
Speaker 5: blast people with cold water.
Speaker 3: And I don't even want to think about women what
Speaker 3: they did because if there's a hole, I'm sure they
Speaker 3: shoved it.
Speaker 5: I'm sure. I'm sure.
Speaker 2: I guess guys too. They could do that with the
Speaker 2: good They.
Speaker 5: Also did wrap packs where patients were basically mummified in
Speaker 5: wet sheets. That would be awful, and they your skin
Speaker 5: would break down like something terrible.
Speaker 3: This guy right here looks like he might have that
Speaker 3: because look at his legs.
Speaker 5: Possibly so and so they would also do hot immersion
Speaker 5: until you've got heat exhaustion and you would pass out,
Speaker 5: So putting you in really hot or boiling water. Hello,
Speaker 5: John Potesta. So the purpose of this was to induce shock.
Speaker 5: Isn't that lovely suppress agitation? That's because your body is
Speaker 5: shutting down and exhaust resistance. And so patients either fainted,
Speaker 5: aspirated water, developed pneumonia, or died from hydrotherapy treatments.
Speaker 2: Is that I can't imagine why you'd be depressed if
Speaker 2: you look like this, Janet.
Speaker 5: So the great thing about this when they actually started
Speaker 5: going through medical records and stuff to see, you know,
Speaker 5: what deaths were recorded and whatever deaths during the hydrotherapy
Speaker 5: torture were recorded as mania, exhaustion, or constitutional weakness. So
Speaker 5: you didn't die from hypothermia because your body shut down.
Speaker 5: You died because you were constitution only weak.
Speaker 3: Okay, I think I think you're constitutionally strong, but there's
Speaker 3: only so much you can take.
Speaker 2: Come on now.
Speaker 5: So the electrical experiments, I said, head, spine and genitals.
Speaker 5: But guess what, Uh, it gets worse than that. For women.
Speaker 5: They were actually applying electrical stuff to your uterus and
Speaker 5: shopping the uterus directly.
Speaker 2: Which is it because it wandered?
Speaker 5: Yeah, because it's in my butt or my back. And
Speaker 5: so I will tell you that if you have any
Speaker 5: kind of cottery procedure done, like oblationions and things like that,
Speaker 5: it literally burns that tissue. So electrotherapy is no different.
Speaker 5: If they're shocking a wet organ, which the uterus is
Speaker 5: covered with mucus and whatever, if you're applying electrical current
Speaker 5: to that, you are literally burning that organ out of
Speaker 5: somebody's body.
Speaker 2: So I'm assuming definitely not having kids after that.
Speaker 5: Probably not. And if you survive the excruciating pain of that,
Speaker 5: I can't imagine, because you sure don't want to shock
Speaker 5: somebody that's wet, right a shock and it's in its
Speaker 5: own right. If you've ever touched an outlet or something
Speaker 5: and got a shock before, imagine shocking something standing in water.
Speaker 5: You would. They're banging it, make it very.
Speaker 3: Often until they can get to your uterus, because FYI,
Speaker 3: your cervix should be closed when you're not having a baby.
Speaker 3: So the force that it takes to open the cervix
Speaker 3: when it isn't naturally because it's like that long you guys,
Speaker 3: it's thick.
Speaker 5: Yep, it's the fire hose.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm saying this is damage beyond it. I mean
Speaker 2: you would just jond repair.
Speaker 5: So along with all these beautiful lovely things, chemical sedation
Speaker 5: or toxic substances were commonly used. And so these are
Speaker 5: where your medication trials took place. In medication testing, and
Speaker 5: so common things were the bromides, chloral hydrate hello, truth serum, mercury,
Speaker 5: arsenic opiates, and lots of other things. And so patients
Speaker 5: were kept uber sedated for months or years on end,
Speaker 5: observed for compliance, and allowed to deteriorate neurologically because hello,
Speaker 5: they need you as a number for their experimentation.
Speaker 3: So they're just basically using you to figure out what
Speaker 3: they could do right.
Speaker 5: And using you until you die and then replacing you.
Speaker 2: They probably fed the people to the people.
Speaker 5: Like soilent green. That's why I said what I said
Speaker 5: about the vomiting, because food was rare, it was sparse,
Speaker 5: in those days, and so what were they feeding them
Speaker 5: if they would feed them when it wasn't times of
Speaker 5: food deprivation.
Speaker 2: Well, and here's the thing.
Speaker 3: Then maybe they found out, oh, we're feeding them this substance.
Speaker 2: Make sure look young. As they figured it out, say
Speaker 2: I'm trying to hello.
Speaker 5: So along with the lovely torture that they did to
Speaker 5: the ladies, it was used to treat them for hysteria,
Speaker 5: treat their masturbation issues or need to masturbate rebellion. So
Speaker 5: if you questioned or asked questions, you would get a
Speaker 5: permanent removal of your clutterus or chuterization or burning out
Speaker 5: of your uterus or whatever sexual desire tints. Like I said,
Speaker 5: other cultures that mutilate or remove. Did we teach other
Speaker 5: cultures to do this? Possibly so? Or if you refused
Speaker 5: marriage or domestic roles, So.
Speaker 2: When you were a lesbian and that was death.
Speaker 5: Some big sweaty Albert wants to marry you and you
Speaker 5: don't want to, you would go in there and get treated.
Speaker 5: Or you know, if you didn't want to wash the
Speaker 5: dishes because it's not your job and you're sassy, just saying.
Speaker 3: Maybe some of these girls were like, yeah, send me
Speaker 3: over there.
Speaker 5: Maybe you don't do it for me, Albert, I know, right,
Speaker 5: I need to go. I really like shock therapy.
Speaker 8: Tell you said about the horrible Yeah, so some of
Speaker 8: the stuff is like uber graphic when you read about it,
Speaker 8: and thank goodness, we're not going to go diving into deep,
Speaker 8: deep details because.
Speaker 3: I can't get any pictures of deep details because it's crazy, it's.
Speaker 5: Disturbing, and they do anytime you research on things like this,
Speaker 5: they were like, oh, graphic content and violence and whatever,
Speaker 5: Like I'm looking for s enough films. No, the government
Speaker 5: has all those.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I'm looking to expose your ass because you
Speaker 3: guys are the ones and you know it.
Speaker 5: So I don't know how this is possible, but it
Speaker 5: says that a lot of the women they were never
Speaker 5: told what was done to them.
Speaker 3: Oh lord, do you think this is where the alien
Speaker 3: abductions come from? Possibly maybe they gave him some crazy story,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, like that right.
Speaker 5: And turned them back out into the population after they
Speaker 5: get all these things to him. And they were a guy.
Speaker 5: That's how the anal probe started because they were looking
Speaker 5: for the wandering uterus. I mean, they had a check yeah,
Speaker 5: so what the eugenic stuff. These were the most explicit
Speaker 5: type of experiments, and these ran anywhere from the nineteen
Speaker 5: hundreds to nineteen forty five, and they were genetic laboratories.
Speaker 5: And so not only did they do for sterilization, hormone manipulation,
Speaker 5: controlled breeding studies, which I'm going to talk about in
Speaker 5: another episode, like a lot about that, starvation diets, radicalized
Speaker 5: intelligence testing. I don't even know what that means, but okay.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: They they know that what happened with my cousin. They
Speaker 3: say that they the days say this is that you
Speaker 3: get one that's super smart, like too smart, like a
Speaker 3: little autistic. He smart, like Elon weird, although I don't
Speaker 3: know if he's as smart as he said, but you
Speaker 3: get what I'm saying, and then you get one that's
Speaker 3: not really functional, and then the one in between that's
Speaker 3: like canon fodder. So they're looking for that one because
Speaker 3: of the telepathy tapes.
Speaker 2: They talk about those.
Speaker 5: Oh gotcha, Well, I'm glad you cleared that up, because
Speaker 5: I was like, I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2: It's very weird.
Speaker 5: And so during these times of course, which like I said,
Speaker 5: Heidi and I did a show on eugenics, but they
Speaker 5: talk about the doctors talk about removing anybody that's unfit
Speaker 5: or preventing them from reproducing or using patients to quote
Speaker 5: unquote improve society. Hello, the emergence of genetic fields and
Speaker 5: how you can select the sex of your baby and
Speaker 5: the eye color and the hair color, and what an
Speaker 5: intelligence level and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: If y'all don't believe us, please go look at the
Speaker 3: Epstein files. It's right in there for your pleasure reading
Speaker 3: zorro rich or.
Speaker 5: If you're getting pleasure from that, you're a sicko and
Speaker 5: you should be going to do I'm saying yes. So
Speaker 5: the eugenic stuff was legal and it was celebrated at
Speaker 5: the time. Hello Margaret Sayinger and your control stuff. And honestly,
Speaker 5: a lot of this is still going on. It's still legal,
Speaker 5: and they still do the genetic removing, genetic impurities and whatever.
Speaker 5: That's what the Crisper cast nine technology is used to
Speaker 5: be called DNA splicing. But now if you have like
Speaker 5: a breed of dog, like a German shepherd that is
Speaker 5: known for hip dysplasia, you can go in and genetically
Speaker 5: alter that DNA of that particular animal and remove that
Speaker 5: in that genetic impurity that causes hip dysplasia so that
Speaker 5: they can breed better stronger animals that don't have that.
Speaker 5: They do the exact same thing with people. That is
Speaker 5: why we have the Human Genome Project.
Speaker 3: And this is much older than people might think. Now
Speaker 3: I made this, but this is a real article, and
Speaker 3: it's Barnum.
Speaker 2: And Bailey article.
Speaker 3: And so when we talk about the world's fairs and
Speaker 3: babies and Zora Ranch and Howard Hughes Medical Institute crisper technology,
Speaker 3: which I'm sorry, you guys have to look at the
Speaker 3: things that we're talking about and take yourself out of
Speaker 3: the cuckoo realm saying that can't possibly be true and
Speaker 3: start looking at the famous families. Okay, they were trying
Speaker 3: to edit out things like the Habsburg chin and things
Speaker 3: that would show that, oh, this is who these people are,
Speaker 3: because then they didn't blend, you know, and they had,
Speaker 3: you know, all the problems with the bleeding and it's
Speaker 3: a whole thing. But they could make it better. Although
Speaker 3: I still say they look like lizards, most of them,
Speaker 3: I don't know. Well, most people think that Charles there's
Speaker 3: a young video of him where his tongue is like
Speaker 3: the creepiest thing you've ever seen, so whatever on that,
Speaker 3: and they all are our ch negative. I'm not saying
Speaker 3: all people that have that are bad. I'm just saying
Speaker 3: maybe they were breeding that two.
Speaker 5: One hundred percent. And I and I think that's part
Speaker 5: of it. Like we talk about a lot about bloodlines
Speaker 5: and stuff like that and specialty programs where they erase
Speaker 5: your mind and you don't remember and whatever, like or
Speaker 5: recruiting people at a really early age because of super
Speaker 5: high intelligence levels and they put them through rigorous testing
Speaker 5: and stuff. They are looking for that special genetics right well.
Speaker 3: And then if they found them, what did they do
Speaker 3: with it? Everybody became these weird plagonists. And and to
Speaker 3: your point about the animal trials, I'll tell you the
Speaker 3: Kingston's dad that that started a lot of their stuff
Speaker 3: where they only breed with each other. He was breeding
Speaker 3: cattle and that's exactly where he got his ideas from.
Speaker 2: So there's that.
Speaker 5: Hundred one hundred percent and eugenics. For people that have
Speaker 5: never looked into that, you definitely need to listen to
Speaker 5: our episode that we did on that or go do
Speaker 5: like a super deep dive because it is crazy, the
Speaker 5: things that you will find and the amount of experimentation
Speaker 5: and directed breeding, like you could only breed with you know,
Speaker 5: whoever they selected for you or whatever. And outside of that,
Speaker 5: like sex was not loud and whatever. It's it's just
Speaker 5: very strange.
Speaker 2: It's weird.
Speaker 5: So let's get into the drugs. Okay, the joy. There's
Speaker 5: so much on the drugs. So the bromides were the
Speaker 5: first thing that were used, and they claimed that they
Speaker 5: treated things like anxiety, and then zomnia and nervousness and
Speaker 5: epilepsy and hysteria and sexual over excitement, masturbation. Oh boy,
Speaker 5: I need some bromides. No, I'm kidding, mental illness, and
Speaker 5: children that were deemed unruly, so kids that you know
Speaker 5: may have had a little problem whatever. So they were
Speaker 5: often routinely added to institutional diets. So if they were
Speaker 5: feeding them people or vomit or whatever, they were mixing
Speaker 5: up a little bromide and they're to go with it.
Speaker 5: So bromides actually sedate people causes like that flat effect
Speaker 5: of your emotions, slow thinking. Uh, you don't have a
Speaker 5: sexual urge like at all. It removes that muscle weakness,
Speaker 5: so you know, what better way to sedate people and
Speaker 5: make them submissive when they're being electrocuted and the genitals
Speaker 5: are changed the wall then to have them sedated and
Speaker 5: supposedly suppresses seizures. So can you get poisoning or an
Speaker 5: overdose from this? Abs so freaking lutely, and so guess what.
Speaker 5: Here's the symptoms that treatment with bromide can cause. Confusion, hallucinations, psychosis,
Speaker 5: severe depression or melancholy, memory loss, skin eruptions called bromide
Speaker 5: acne because your body's trying to push it out, slurred speech, delusions,
Speaker 5: and even coma. So the things that they're saying they're
Speaker 5: treating with this medication is actually causing these problems in
Speaker 5: the first place. And then they're like, oh, yeah, we're
Speaker 5: definitely going to have to keep these people in here
Speaker 5: indefinitely because they're crazy. They've gotten worse since they've been here.
Speaker 5: I wonder why.
Speaker 3: I don't dang, can't imagine no food, all the things
Speaker 3: electric shocking me, making me all messed up.
Speaker 5: So they didn't just do these in the asylums. They
Speaker 5: gave them in the orphanages and the women's facilities and
Speaker 5: the epileptic colonies, often to soldiers and prisoners, and so
Speaker 5: they didn't have to gain consent because, like I said,
Speaker 5: you're a nothing burger in there, and there was no
Speaker 5: dosing regulations or standards at the time, and so you
Speaker 5: literally were the first lab rat experiments that they were doing.
Speaker 5: And so potassium bromate actually used in flour as a
Speaker 5: quote unquote dough improver. And so how to know, a
Speaker 5: lot of things things get into our food hmm, generally
Speaker 5: recognized as safe grass standards in the United States. That's
Speaker 5: how it got into your food.
Speaker 2: So nice, yeah, so lovely.
Speaker 5: And so especially at night in the food, they would
Speaker 5: put bromide to try to make people sedated so they
Speaker 5: would sleep, and so they could play, you know, solidaire,
Speaker 5: twiddle their thumbs or whatever they were doing, or maybe
Speaker 5: they were whacka doing, who knows they were. So the
Speaker 5: only reason that bromide's stopped being used is because, uh,
Speaker 5: benzo diazepines like our barbituates came along first, and then
Speaker 5: the benzo diazepines, and so that's the only reason. And
Speaker 5: so bromides were considered toxic long term. But how many
Speaker 5: studies were done on it because a lot of patients
Speaker 5: died just saying.
Speaker 2: Were they addictive? I don't even know them.
Speaker 5: I don't say yes.
Speaker 3: What if they cut them off and then they go
Speaker 3: cuckoo again?
Speaker 5: One hundred percent changes your brain chemistry. So hello. So
Speaker 5: the next one is chloral hydrate. So that's the original
Speaker 5: chemical knockout drug as the cornerstone drug for a lineage
Speaker 5: of sedation restraint quieting medicine. That's how that developed, and
Speaker 5: so it's a sedative slash hypnotic. It was developed in
Speaker 5: eighteen thirty two and widely prescribed from the eighteen sixties
Speaker 5: through the nineteen hundreds and was marketed as get this
Speaker 5: and we've never heard this before, safe, non addictive, and
Speaker 5: ideal for nervous patients. Oh no, it's all same kind
Speaker 5: of things, right, anxiety, hysteria, agitation, psychosis, epilepsy, children who
Speaker 5: couldn't sleep, and institutional sedation. Thank goodness they've removed sexual
Speaker 5: urges and masturbation off the list.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: So again, this works on your brain chemistry, so it
Speaker 5: slows your brain activity, suppresses your consciousness, induces really deep sleeps,
Speaker 5: and flattens completely blunts your emotional response like you have none.
Speaker 5: So it's like turning the volume down on your stereo.
Speaker 5: Like pretty much all the way to zero. And so
Speaker 5: the dangers of using this is respiratory depression. So they
Speaker 5: depressed your system so far that you stop breathing. Party
Speaker 5: acharhythmia is because again it slows your body down to
Speaker 5: the point where you stop breathing, or your heart stops beating,
Speaker 5: or your heart jumps out of rhythm because your heart
Speaker 5: runs up electrical current, delirium, hallucinations or severe dependency problems
Speaker 5: that's an issue, or sudden death that could actually kill
Speaker 5: you for reasons I just stated.
Speaker 3: And the cole had nothing to do with the development
Speaker 3: of this at all, because they just called this really
Speaker 3: for colds with this chlorohydrate and it's sixty sixty six
Speaker 3: it eases the cold and misery quick sixty six six.
Speaker 2: Well, and why that?
Speaker 5: Because it's safe, not addictive, and ideal for patients.
Speaker 2: Right, made by who? And what is in it? Scary?
Speaker 5: Scary sixt' sixty six the mark of the beast. So
Speaker 5: was that intense marketing, I would say so. And so
Speaker 5: because of all the things that it does, you can
Speaker 5: get addicted or toxic levels of this in your system,
Speaker 5: which causes confusion, memory loss, tremors, paranoia, skin lesions, severe depression,
Speaker 5: uh organ damage, hence the dropping dead for out of nowhere,
Speaker 5: and so patients were frequently increased in dosage rather than withdrawn.
Speaker 5: Hello doctor I used to work for and so yeah,
Speaker 5: so you're already having problems on twenty miligram, show you
Speaker 5: up someone to forty because that should surely fix it. Well,
Speaker 5: it did fix it for a lot of people. They
Speaker 5: are dead. Yeah, fixed them, so good forgure, I'll fix
Speaker 5: you right up, trust me, trust.
Speaker 2: Me, all better, all better.
Speaker 1: And and so.
Speaker 5: This is uh, you know, used until barbituates and bido
Speaker 5: diazepines and my modern psychiatric drinks came along. And so yeah,
Speaker 5: the next one is morphine. Imagine that. So morphine was
Speaker 5: called the velvet hammer, and so it's relief and ruined
Speaker 5: all in the same vial. Isn't that nice? I bet
Speaker 5: that was like a nice ad relief phenomenon.
Speaker 2: I wonder if it had six six sixth on it,
Speaker 2: because it sounds about the same.
Speaker 5: Maybe you'll have to search and see what early adds
Speaker 5: for morphine looked like. And so morphine, of course is
Speaker 5: a natural opioid, for it comes from the opium poppy.
Speaker 5: It was discovered in eighteen oh four and it became
Speaker 5: the first purified pharmaceutical painkiller. What could possibly go on?
Speaker 5: So it was severe pain surgery, hello, removing someone's CLP trauma,
Speaker 5: terminal illness, battlefield medicine, but historically also given for anxiety, insomnia,
Speaker 5: the melancholia, female complaints, so vaginal itching and burning, takes
Speaker 5: a hysteria, nervous disorders, chronic illness, and sedation. And so
Speaker 5: morphine blocks your pain receptors in your brain, and it
Speaker 5: produces lots of dopamines, so you have like euphoric feeling
Speaker 5: right tots off and you know, reduces your call or
Speaker 5: reduces induces calmness and emotional not because you are so
Speaker 5: high on dopamine. Uh slows you're breathing though, so it
Speaker 5: reduces your respiratory rate and all of that stuff. And
Speaker 5: so addiction was a big thing. Uh So all these
Speaker 5: people for addiction in the asylum already suffering from an addiction.
Speaker 5: Now you got a double dose of addiction.
Speaker 2: Rate or possible.
Speaker 5: Now you're really skilled of bro minde and chlorohydrate and
Speaker 5: morphine altogether. Because there was no no limit to the
Speaker 5: amount of stuff that they could experiment.
Speaker 6: On you with.
Speaker 2: And in the middle of the asylum exactly.
Speaker 5: That would be me, Like, after a half of one,
Speaker 5: I'd be slobbering out my pie hole.
Speaker 2: And what about all the people that are allergic?
Speaker 5: Well, U cube morphine, cube morphine. The morphine of today
Speaker 5: is cube morphine. The purity of product and the safeguard
Speaker 5: of its form heaven successively to physicians and pharmacists. Please
Speaker 5: specify NYQ and give the originators the benefit of your business.
Speaker 5: New York Quinine and Chemical Works Limited.
Speaker 2: Alrighty, it's not as good as the cocaine teeth drops,
Speaker 2: but you know, but you.
Speaker 5: Know it'll work. It'll work just the same. So of
Speaker 5: course they caused dependency problems. And when you take opioids,
Speaker 5: you can't pope. So everybody had constipation. So that constipation,
Speaker 5: chronic constipation can actually kill you too. Yeah, mule suppression
Speaker 5: because it shuts off your receptors in your body. Emotional flattening,
Speaker 5: respiratory failure and overdose. Overdose deaths and so deaths and
Speaker 5: withdrawal symptoms were documented as mental collapse. That nice.
Speaker 3: A ton of people actually died from stomach issues back
Speaker 3: in the day.
Speaker 2: And I know they're eating red ship, but I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: but you can't poop.
Speaker 5: And if you can't poop, that builds up and your
Speaker 5: your body shuts down because it sucks all water out
Speaker 5: of your system.
Speaker 3: That kind of makes you wonder, right about all the
Speaker 3: people dying just suddenly of whatever. And so.
Speaker 5: If you can't, if you have trouble pooping, you need
Speaker 5: to work on that, because yeah, that that could be
Speaker 5: life threatening.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 5: Morphine morphed into heroin, so they were given heroin and
Speaker 5: the asylum too. So in nineteen eighty nine, heroin was
Speaker 5: marketed as a non addictive cure for morphine addiction. So
Speaker 5: let me give you a heroine to treat your morphine addiction.
Speaker 2: I mean, it will cure it, it will give you anyone.
Speaker 5: What the hell could possibly go wrong? I don't know.
Speaker 5: And so this is kind of like the you know,
Speaker 5: create a drug, ignore the dependency problems that you created
Speaker 5: with it, rebranded under a stronger name, or relabel it,
Speaker 5: and repeat the behavior. Exactly is this still going on
Speaker 5: in today's society? Aboutely like we talked about on the
Speaker 5: pharmacue a rebranded episode, That's exactly what it does.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 5: The broma and the chlorohydrate and the morphine and the
Speaker 5: heroin led of course to methadone and oxyconton, and so
Speaker 5: same drug, new label, same problems. Whatever.
Speaker 2: From the makers of aspirin.
Speaker 5: Here's the heroin, here's your heroin. You should always keep
Speaker 5: all from fire pharmaceuticals. You could should always keep the
Speaker 5: violent heroin in your medicine cabinet, FRISI in case, in case,
Speaker 5: you got the melancholia.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh, I did say it would hear you right up?
Speaker 3: No wonder Our great grandparents were like, we never had
Speaker 3: colds like that that you had cocaine drops, girl, person.
Speaker 5: You had heroin viols in your medicine cabinet. Are you
Speaker 5: hitting me?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: So the next thing they used is mercury compounds. So
Speaker 5: we talked about this on a previous episode that mercury
Speaker 5: over time is toxic to your body and it will
Speaker 5: cause your body to shut down from the inside out.
Speaker 5: It just stops working. And so they would use uh
Speaker 5: liquid mercury, uh mercuric chloride or calomel, which that's an
Speaker 5: interesting one, or methyl mercury. So it comes in different forms,
Speaker 5: and so what was it used for treat that syphilis
Speaker 5: you was sleeping around? We tried to we tried to
Speaker 5: cut off your clearers or whack them balls off. But
Speaker 5: you know, we'll give you some. We'll give some mercury compounds.
Speaker 5: Treat that syphilis, that stdt doing weird stuff to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Uh, the constipation that came along with taking the opioid,
Speaker 5: so uh, take some mercury. That'll fix the problem. And
Speaker 5: purities of the blood. Doesn't say what kind of impurities,
Speaker 5: just whatever they want to say. The melancholia and madness, teething,
Speaker 5: and infants. So let's treat you with mercury compounds. Again,
Speaker 5: like the what was that tonic? The drops on mercury drops.
Speaker 2: Oh, this one is a mother's friend. This one was
Speaker 2: a combo, a como drug, combo paragoric.
Speaker 5: She also used to treat skin diseases and parasites and
Speaker 5: women's reproductive orders disorders. So that calamel that I mentioned
Speaker 5: is mercurious chloride was also it was so common that
Speaker 5: it was deemed or named the physician's friend. So that's
Speaker 5: what they were giving to the babies, was uh, calmal
Speaker 5: mel drops, cowalmel drops. So what does mercury do to
Speaker 5: the body. It affects the nervous system, the kidneys, the
Speaker 5: immune function, and the gut lining. Hello, I can't poop,
Speaker 5: so it accumulates, it builds up, so it causes damage
Speaker 5: because it builds up throughout your whole body, through all
Speaker 5: of your organs, your bloodstream, the whole nine yards. Mercury
Speaker 5: poisoning symptoms trimmers. That sounds like a late night pharmaceutical commercial.
Speaker 5: May costalty changes, irritability and rage, deprision, anxiety, memory, laws
Speaker 5: of incas, delusions, excessive salivation, or tooth loss. So probably
Speaker 5: because it we're otten your teeth out of your head,
Speaker 5: but please still take this product because it's safe and effective,
Speaker 5: exactly perfect. So because of the toxic build up in
Speaker 5: people's systems, they deemed the people that were taking mercury
Speaker 5: mad hatters. That's where that terminology comes from. Mad as
Speaker 5: a hatter, all of that stuff. It is because they
Speaker 5: were on mercury products, and so of course they gave it,
Speaker 5: you know, and all the same places, the orphanages, the hospitals,
Speaker 5: all of that stuff. People with STDs were forced to
Speaker 5: take it, and so the people with STDs, especially syphilis.
Speaker 5: This is where this term came from. If you've ever
Speaker 5: heard this before, it made me chuckle because back in
Speaker 5: the day, the town that I grew up when was
Speaker 5: considered a red light district, it was the prostitution district,
Speaker 5: and I took a took care of a lot of
Speaker 5: people in the nursing homes who had syphilis, like very
Speaker 5: old people that had syphilis. And so this phrase developed,
Speaker 5: and it's a night with venus a lifetime with mercury.
Speaker 5: So if you spread your wild notes, you're going to
Speaker 5: be on mercury for life, okay, Or even if you're
Speaker 5: not on mercury anymore, it's still in your system because
Speaker 5: you can't get rid of it. And so the doctors
Speaker 5: knew the dangers, but they believe that the symptoms were worse,
Speaker 5: and so that's why they kept treating people with mercury,
Speaker 5: ah way up until I don't know, I want to
Speaker 5: say probably like the nineteen nineties two thousand zer when
Speaker 5: mercury developed from thermometers and blood pressure cups and all
Speaker 5: of that kind of stuff. Vaccinations and so children and mercury.
Speaker 5: Mercury was put like we talked about last time, in
Speaker 5: teething powders, laxatives, worm treatments. Kids get worms because they
Speaker 5: dig around in their pooh and they dig around in
Speaker 5: dirt and all of that stuff. So children, especially from
Speaker 5: taking mercury, turned pink. That's how you could tell that
Speaker 5: kids had mercury toxicity. It's called acrodinia, which is strange.
Speaker 5: I didn't know that was a thing. They got severe
Speaker 5: nerve pain and had neurological damage that was irreversible. But
Speaker 5: the parents were to blame, of course, not the drug,
Speaker 5: even though they knew it was the mercury turning these
Speaker 5: kids pink and change them into behavior they escape good
Speaker 5: to the parents.
Speaker 2: Sound familiar, okay, found that right.
Speaker 5: So, because they finally discovered that there were neurological damage
Speaker 5: to this and they replaced it with safer antibiotics like penicillin.
Speaker 5: Is it really safer, I can't tell you that, and
Speaker 5: so they kind of stopped using that. And so a
Speaker 5: substance is toxic, they frame it as its therapeutic. We
Speaker 5: don't say the word toxic. Damage is blamed on the
Speaker 5: patient or the parent, and then it continues for decades
Speaker 5: and they usually rebrand it under another name. So get
Speaker 5: this one. Also, arsenic was a treatment, and so mercury
Speaker 5: are are is a naturally occurring metalloid, and so it's
Speaker 5: very deadly in small doses, it's cumulative, which means it
Speaker 5: builds up in your system and it's really hard to detect.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 5: It was given for syphilis, tuberculosis, malaria, asthma, Hello, like ciias, czoriasis,
Speaker 5: and skin diseases, anemia, So your blood's not strong enough,
Speaker 5: we're gonna treat you. But you know a little too much.
Speaker 5: But here, epilepsy, nervous disorders, the melancholia, insanity, women's weakness, okay,
Speaker 5: and children's Yeah, stop masturbating, you'll go blind.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have all kinds of problems.
Speaker 5: So arsenic, like we talked about in a previous episode,
Speaker 5: was marketed as a tonic and a general health booster.
Speaker 5: So it disrupts cellular respiration, so it how a cell
Speaker 5: makes energy. It shuts that down, it prevents them from
Speaker 5: doing so. Causes neurological damage of course because of that,
Speaker 5: because you're not able to oxidate your brain or your
Speaker 5: cells or anything like that. Gas strone, intestinal destruction, so hello,
Speaker 5: no wonder you can't poop a cardiovascular failure because hello,
Speaker 5: it's a poison and it's highly toxic, and bone marrow suppression.
Speaker 5: So all kinds of problems happen when your BoNT morrow
Speaker 5: is suppressed because that is literally where you produce red
Speaker 5: and white blood cells, is in your bone, mirright, And
Speaker 5: so it doesn't target disease. It targets your life and
Speaker 5: your life force. And so arsenic poisoning shows anxiety, depression, irritability, confusion,
Speaker 5: memory loss, hallucinations, peripheral neuropathy. So burning in your arms
Speaker 5: or legs or feet or fingers, skin discoloration in lesions,
Speaker 5: hair and nail changes. Your hair can literally fall out.
Speaker 5: You are violently ill from arsenic poisoning. And so patients
Speaker 5: were labeled as degenerating. Well, I wonder why, because it's.
Speaker 2: Killing them, because you're poisoning them.
Speaker 5: Insane or constitutionally weak, And so the drug stayed on
Speaker 5: board even if it killed people. And I want to
Speaker 5: bring this up about the arsenic I don't know if
Speaker 5: you have been paying attention or not to the study
Speaker 5: that literally just came out of Florida where they tested
Speaker 5: all the most popular candies and found out of forty seven,
Speaker 5: thirty three of those. Of course the number thirty three,
Speaker 5: but thirty three of the forty seven tested had dangerous
Speaker 5: levels of arsenic in them. Really, so you might want
Speaker 5: to read that article because it was all stuff that
Speaker 5: people like to eat, like stickers and receis, Jolly Ranchers, skittles,
Speaker 5: the whole nine yards. So go watch that, or go
Speaker 5: listen to that, go read it because arsenic is still
Speaker 5: being used, and to know that it's being used by manufacturers,
Speaker 5: especially marketed for giant bags of candy at Halloween. They're
Speaker 5: target getting children with arsenic.
Speaker 2: But don't you want to look young and these safe
Speaker 2: wafers of arsenic right.
Speaker 5: Here, Well, it is kind of like, in my opinion,
Speaker 5: using botox to look younger. That is also a very
Speaker 5: harmful toxin, and they cannot tell you if there's going
Speaker 5: to be effects from that. It could be six months
Speaker 5: or it could be years before you know that your
Speaker 5: body is completely broken down and damaged and no longer
Speaker 5: able to be repaired. So I'm just saying I don't
Speaker 5: want an arsenic waiver or morphine pill or pass droplets
Speaker 5: or anything. So I think we talked about this in
Speaker 5: the last episode the Fowler's Solution. Did we talk about that?
Speaker 2: I can't remember.
Speaker 5: So Fowler's solution is potassium arsenite in liquid form, so
Speaker 5: highly prescribed in the seventeen hundreds to the nineteen hundreds,
Speaker 5: so for an uber long time doctors swore by it,
Speaker 5: and side effects actually included answer organ failure, neurological collapse,
Speaker 5: and death. But it was still prescribed for people even
Speaker 5: after all of that was known. Hello, co exccinations, same
Speaker 5: kind of stuff. And here's the thing, like think about,
Speaker 5: like I mentioned a while ago, the late night prescription
Speaker 5: commercials on TV, right, and if you ever have your
Speaker 5: TV on where it's not muted, and they're like, may
Speaker 5: cause blindness, disney spells, neurological damage, heart attacks, stroke, seizure,
Speaker 5: all of these things. And you know that because they're
Speaker 5: telling you and their studies they already found these things
Speaker 5: were issues, and you still choose to take it. What
Speaker 5: the hell is wrong with you? It's taking it things. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and so not only did we have the complexion wafers
Speaker 5: so younger radiance akin with taking the arsenic wafers, they
Speaker 5: had hair tonics that would probably make your hair fall
Speaker 5: out because it's poisoning you at the root. Weight control
Speaker 5: AIDS and Victorian women micro dosing arsenic for a healthy glow.
Speaker 2: Okay, there it is.
Speaker 5: I'm already glowing and right on my own. I don't
Speaker 5: need arsenic to help me. So it they decided to
Speaker 5: stop poisoning patients. Yeah, now, but she has radiant, glowing
Speaker 5: she's all better.
Speaker 3: You know. I used to tell my patients that were
Speaker 3: very fussy about pain meds and getting them way before
Speaker 3: they were due and not inside like a safe area.
Speaker 3: I'm like, it is possible for me to kill you
Speaker 3: before you're out of pain.
Speaker 5: Mh.
Speaker 2: I'm just letting you know. I'm generous.
Speaker 5: So but you know, think about like all of these
Speaker 5: drugs that we talked about and no oversight, no regulation,
Speaker 5: no dosing instructions, and they could literally give them the
Speaker 5: Pringle scan right of the whole nine yards, all of
Speaker 5: the drugs, and then they're like, oh my gosh, well
Speaker 5: they died. We better go masterbate off patients. So, yeah,
Speaker 5: I met her, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: We can blame it on that.
Speaker 5: We can blame it on that. And so the only
Speaker 5: reason they stopped using arsenic as a medical tree. But
Speaker 5: how funny, wink Uh. It still exists in a lot
Speaker 5: of different forms in products that we use today. It's
Speaker 5: because of the clear cancer links. Uh. Antibiotics replaced it,
Speaker 5: so you don't need to take it for your toothache anymore,
Speaker 5: Thank goodness, all better and forensic chemistry made detection of
Speaker 5: it better or easier. But and it's still it's still
Speaker 5: really hard to find a poisoning unless you know exactly
Speaker 5: what substance to look for. So people that have been
Speaker 5: poisoned with rat poison or you know, all the different
Speaker 5: kinds of things that you would find in a like
Speaker 5: university laboratory or whatever, it's very hard to find unless
Speaker 5: they can narrow it down. Or you you find somebody
Speaker 5: that like the symptoms ring a bell and they're like.
Speaker 2: Oh, we should check for wild we should check that out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so again market it is no more wafers whatever.
Speaker 5: Uh and so yeah, some of the facilities that uh did.
Speaker 2: This, I found some ads I have to share really quickly,
Speaker 2: please do.
Speaker 3: And I know we went over the gynecological stuff already,
Speaker 3: but I couldn't find this before because I was it
Speaker 3: was not letting me.
Speaker 2: And so doctor John Butler's electro massage missage machine, it
Speaker 2: made her go to heaven. Uh huh yeah, and then
Speaker 2: they put her probably through her in.
Speaker 5: The for curing disease at home. So uh, if you
Speaker 5: are not, then torture your vagina and you'll feel better.
Speaker 2: But if you don't want to do it at home,
Speaker 2: you can always go in for a pelvic massage.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: Steria is commonly diagnosed for women with wide range of symptoms.
Speaker 5: Pelvic massage was a treatment used to induce a hysterical paroxysm,
Speaker 5: which was essentially an orgasm.
Speaker 2: So I want to bring to the attention how much
Speaker 2: people you still love their doctors.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, and they make house calls. So so here's
Speaker 5: the thing though, and and word of advice for all
Speaker 5: you couples out there, right, that is why makeup sex
Speaker 5: after fighting is stimulating, right, because your your emotions are
Speaker 5: heightened and you're vagagel is super duper vascular. Uh. And
Speaker 5: so you could be curing your wife girlfriend at home
Speaker 5: without the help of your doctor. You know, you don't
Speaker 5: even have to have a fight. You can just care
Speaker 5: her hysteria with one simple.
Speaker 3: Fall by yourself. We're all by yourself. You should probably
Speaker 3: do that by yourself so she doesn't go to the doctor.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying all the things, all the free advice
Speaker 5: we give here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're helpful. We're helpful, bitches.
Speaker 5: Come on, exactly, we are just trying to help you out,
Speaker 5: get you out of here, hysterical melancholia.
Speaker 3: Trying to make sure you don't get any syphilis from
Speaker 3: your doctor.
Speaker 5: That's one hundred percent correct. So here's some institutions that
Speaker 5: existed and what happened. So Danvers State Hospital right here
Speaker 5: in the good old state of Massachusetts in the United States,
Speaker 5: open in eighteen seventy eight, known for chronic overcrowding, so
Speaker 5: they only had space for five hundred patients and they
Speaker 5: would have two thousand or more at a time. Danvers
Speaker 5: Hospital has also been on shows and stuff because it's
Speaker 5: a creepy place. So they would do insulin coma therapy. No, no,
Speaker 5: they would put you in an insulin coma to calm
Speaker 5: you down. They had lots of hydrotherapy wards and so
Speaker 5: this place had a lot of deaths and lobotomies in
Speaker 5: the nineteen thirties to the nineteen fifties. They were famous
Speaker 5: for their bottom bosm So here immigrants, single women, so
Speaker 5: if you weren't married, boy, you were going to Danvers
Speaker 5: State Hospital. Alcoholics and tuberculous patients, so they were doing
Speaker 5: all kinds of fire hose treatment on the ladies at
Speaker 5: this facility closed but not until nineteen ninety two after
Speaker 5: decades of patient abuse, lawsuits and deinstitutionalization took place. And
Speaker 5: how it stayed open that long a shock shock. That's
Speaker 5: like literally all these facilities. So the Willard Asylum for
Speaker 5: Chronic Insane in New York happened in eighteen sixty nine,
Speaker 5: not for treatment purposes that it was opened. It was
Speaker 5: opened for chronic containment of curable patients, and so patients
Speaker 5: were buried on site without names, so mass graves were
Speaker 5: found at this place. They had very minimal medical care,
Speaker 5: so they didn't really have a medical staff, and heavy
Speaker 5: use of restraints, so people who were sent here were elderly,
Speaker 5: weapon and postpartum depression, epileptics, or poorhouse transfers so people
Speaker 5: that were poor couldn't pay for themselves. Shut down in
Speaker 5: nineteen fifty five because it was exposed as a warehouse
Speaker 5: for forgotten people. They were using them for labor stuff.
Speaker 5: So trans Allegheny Lunatic Asylum in West Virginia opened in
Speaker 5: eighteen sixty four, designated for two hundred and fifty people,
Speaker 5: but always had well over twenty four hundred at a time.
Speaker 5: This place used the cage bed, so the things that
Speaker 5: looked like coffins. Patients slept on the floor all of
Speaker 5: the time, they used the rotational therapy or the vomiting chair,
Speaker 5: and used forced labor.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 5: Civil war and poverty flooded this institution with people who
Speaker 5: were never mentally ill. It wasn't closed until nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 5: And the only reason it closed it wasn't because the
Speaker 5: experimentation or any of the other stuff. It was condemned
Speaker 5: because it was structurally unfit.
Speaker 2: Oh nice, So just because of that, okay, yeah, and
Speaker 2: so and that nice.
Speaker 5: Now we have the Geeld Colony. This was developed in Belgium,
Speaker 5: and this is a very interesting thing to me. So
Speaker 5: patients weren't confined, They actually lived with their families on
Speaker 5: this It kind of sounded to me like a what
Speaker 5: do you call those places, like a like a colony, right, that's.
Speaker 2: Kind of what it said, Yeah, yeah, like a commune yep.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 5: People offloaded patients deemed dangerous everywhere else, but you could
Speaker 5: you could be highly dangerous and go live at this
Speaker 5: place with your family. Zero oversight, zero regulation. And patients
Speaker 5: of course were forced to work unpaid. I don't know
Speaker 5: if their families were forced to work since they were
Speaker 5: living in these commune type place either, and so this
Speaker 5: was considered a more humane alternative to the crazy houses,
Speaker 5: but they still forced labor. So I don't know. Now
Speaker 5: this place we're going to talk about next. I'm going
Speaker 5: to talk about it on another show that we do too,
Speaker 5: because it is very interesting. The Leutchworth Facility or Leuchworth
Speaker 5: Village in New York opened in nineteen eleven, advertised as
Speaker 5: the institution that is a very creepy creepy So this
Speaker 5: was for children with disabilities used in vaccine testing for
Speaker 5: sterilization went on here and malnutrition experiments. It wasn't until HAROLDO.
Speaker 5: Rivera did an expose on this at nineteen seventy two
Speaker 5: that it got shut down, but not until nineteen ninety six,
Speaker 5: So almost twenty years after his investigative expose, they're like,
Speaker 5: just kidding, We're still going to stay open. And so
Speaker 5: the vaccine testing on children here was a big thing,
Speaker 5: as were most of the facilities in New York that
Speaker 5: were testing realms. So why do these places really get
Speaker 5: shut down? It wasn't because of compassion or progress or
Speaker 5: anything like that. They just couldn't hide any longer their
Speaker 5: disdain for certain parts of the population, and so you know,
Speaker 5: it kind of became financially toxic for them as well.
Speaker 5: And uh, you know, with the with the changing movement
Speaker 5: and the guy from France and the Quaker and all
Speaker 5: of that stuff that reform movements and things like that,
Speaker 5: and the rebranding to name it psychology, and with the
Speaker 5: emerging like human rights violations and all of that kind
Speaker 5: of stuff. That's literally why these places stopped existing, because
Speaker 5: they just couldn't find actually or ethically hide the kind
Speaker 5: of things that they were doing to people anymore. And
Speaker 5: so they were very successful systems of containment for a
Speaker 5: really long time. Like I said, most of them started
Speaker 5: in the seventeenth century or seventeen hundreds and went until
Speaker 5: you know, the nineteen nineties, most of them. And so
Speaker 5: they were very successful at what they were doing of
Speaker 5: you know, confining people and experimenting on them and all
Speaker 5: of those kind of things. So government funded or not
Speaker 5: government funded, they were very successful in their eugenics, experimentation,
Speaker 5: torture chambers, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2: Help.
Speaker 5: So legal liability became a problem for a lot of
Speaker 5: these places, but not until the reform movements actually started
Speaker 5: demanding like real change and accountability and things like that.
Speaker 5: So think about that. It wasn't until the late nineteen
Speaker 5: nineties where doctors and nurses were actually held accountable for
Speaker 5: the disturbing things that they did to patients. They should
Speaker 5: be let that sink end, though how long that took
Speaker 5: until the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 2: For someone and somebody was like, bitch, please, you know
Speaker 2: you did some shit. Miragic, come on now exactly.
Speaker 5: So, because of all those changes, now their legal liability
Speaker 5: is wrongful death and any kind of abuse, neglect, restraints
Speaker 5: and lawful confinement, the tortures, experimentation, blah blah blah. But
Speaker 5: keep in mind, though, you have to have somebody advocate
Speaker 5: for you before that will ever change, because if you're
Speaker 5: one of those family members, it's like, oh, my son
Speaker 5: has add I'm going to go take them to the
Speaker 5: mental health facility and dump them there. The way things
Speaker 5: are nowadays, you would probably get arrested yourself for dumping.
Speaker 2: Your child there hundred percent, and you should yeah, yeah, one.
Speaker 5: Hundred and So because of all of the scandals and
Speaker 5: the liability issues that came up, they became financially dangerous
Speaker 5: to maintain, and that's why they moved away from the
Speaker 5: old timy models, and now they're rebranded as psychiatric and
Speaker 5: patient hospitals or well stay or you know whatever. So
Speaker 5: the psychiatric drugs from the fifties to the sixties made
Speaker 5: trading patients out patiently much cheaper than it is to
Speaker 5: maintain an inpatient facility. There are still some people that
Speaker 5: need an inpatient facility, but I don't think it should
Speaker 5: be for a lifetime, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 5: it should.
Speaker 3: Be a program like we we don't even we have
Speaker 3: lockdown rooms and even what six years ago when I
Speaker 3: first started, we used them and we had leather restraints
Speaker 3: and other things that it was like only for the
Speaker 3: worst case scenario, right when people are beating the shit
Speaker 3: out of it.
Speaker 5: I was going to say assault, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Because the cops don't want to come help us and
Speaker 3: we're just on our own. But now we don't use
Speaker 3: any of it at all at all.
Speaker 5: So and you don't drug your patients with arsenic.
Speaker 2: And we do not even do B fifty twos anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, nothing, yep.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. That goes to show you, like how much
Speaker 5: things have changed over I would say a short period
Speaker 5: of time, because the nineteen nineties weren't that long ago. Right,
Speaker 5: So the shift and the change is good, but it's
Speaker 5: all still under government control, government funding, government wink wink regulation,
Speaker 5: stuff like that, which I think still is a problem.
Speaker 5: Privatized places, in my opinion, would be better that don't
Speaker 5: have government money tied to them.
Speaker 2: But I don't think.
Speaker 3: I mean, ours has insurance, but I don't. I think
Speaker 3: it's more private.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a hospital. Yeah, so a lot of
Speaker 5: these places and a lot of people don't know this,
Speaker 5: but you and my daughter are in the same field, right,
Speaker 5: And so a lot of the patients that she sees,
Speaker 5: they have a strip protocol of when the patient they
Speaker 5: call it graduates, they're pro graham where they can go.
Speaker 5: They can only go to safe facilities, so it has
Speaker 5: to be like an approved safe house or an approved
Speaker 5: relative or or something like that. You can't just take
Speaker 5: them and turn them out on the street.
Speaker 2: No, we don't actually don't have to.
Speaker 5: Actually find them a safe place to.
Speaker 2: Go, although we will if they refuse treatment and write whatever.
Speaker 5: That's very different. But if somebody, somebody quote unquote graduates
Speaker 5: the program, you have to do everything you can to
Speaker 5: make sure that patient stays safe. So you're not gonna like,
Speaker 5: if you have a patient that's been in there for
Speaker 5: heroin addiction or something, you're not going to release them
Speaker 5: to a family member who is also a known drug addict.
Speaker 2: No, we do all the planning.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so there's a lot that goes into that, so
Speaker 5: that that part of stuff is good. That that has changed,
Speaker 5: and so the asylums of the old day have disappeared,
Speaker 5: but the patients have not. There are some people that
Speaker 5: need worked.
Speaker 3: With, but.
Speaker 5: You got to get to the root of the problem
Speaker 5: and what's.
Speaker 3: Called hopefully it's a more humane way of dealing with things,
Speaker 3: like we use the E M d R. We use
Speaker 3: all kinds of therapy stuff, but very little medication or restraints.
Speaker 3: In fact, I think they're probably more funny about regular
Speaker 3: even sleeping anything like that we'd give like melotona, Like
Speaker 3: we're very careful, right, and sometimes I wish we were
Speaker 3: a little better because they don't.
Speaker 5: Because you don't want to You don't want to create
Speaker 5: that dependency problem and stuff and cause the symptoms that
Speaker 5: make people crazierer right, more crazy in first place. But
Speaker 5: then lack of sleep.
Speaker 2: I'm always told the doctor like we have to get
Speaker 2: to some point where we're sleeping, you know.
Speaker 5: Right, Because if you don't sleep, that throws off your
Speaker 5: circadian rhythm, which throws off of all of your your
Speaker 5: hormones and all of the things that your your body
Speaker 5: produces on a natural basis, and then your body starts
Speaker 5: breaking down when you can't sleep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you guys got to get your sleep. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 5: These were like tools of social control that they were using,
Speaker 5: and not just for population, but darn you unruly wives
Speaker 5: who just.
Speaker 2: Jave's k sister is one of these.
Speaker 3: She wouldn't quit dating certain kind of men, and I'm serious,
Speaker 3: that's what they did to her.
Speaker 2: So well, yeahlebotomized.
Speaker 5: And and why is that because it probably was with
Speaker 5: the with the eugenics crowd, and it was it was
Speaker 5: a particular race. I would probably say that they did
Speaker 5: not want they were in their family line.
Speaker 2: They were very fussy. Yep. And she peed herself in
Speaker 2: a diaper the rest of her life. So yeah, there's that.
Speaker 5: Well, thank mixed her up. Thanks? And when did she
Speaker 5: get out of that facility? Do you remember?
Speaker 3: Oh? I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think she ever did, because.
Speaker 5: Like I said, most of those facilities in the nineteen
Speaker 5: nineties were still open and still operating and still doing
Speaker 5: all the things.
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm going to look it up really quick,
Speaker 3: but I don't think they.
Speaker 2: Could take care of her.
Speaker 5: She was not okay well, and could they take care
Speaker 5: of her with the amount of money that that family
Speaker 5: has abs so flipping lowly.
Speaker 2: She never got out.
Speaker 5: You can hire private nurses and all of that kind
Speaker 5: of stuff.
Speaker 3: But you know, she remained in there until she died
Speaker 3: after a botch slobotomy.
Speaker 2: And that that isn't some sad stuff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's horrible, but yeah, there's a lot of people,
Speaker 5: and I mean that the amount of deaths that came
Speaker 5: out of those early asylums and stuff were just absolutely
Speaker 5: flooring to me. But I can understand with no oversight
Speaker 5: and with the experimentations that they were using on them,
Speaker 5: and the lack of food and all of that stuff,
Speaker 5: and the cocktails of medications with no dosing and no oversight,
Speaker 5: I can understand why very few people actually ever got
Speaker 5: out of an asylum exactly.
Speaker 2: That's terrifying, one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: So lovely, darling, where can people find you at?
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, miss Janna. I love these talks.
Speaker 3: Then it's just interesting to me that we've missed so
Speaker 3: much of history, even though we're both nurses and we
Speaker 3: see stuff, but it's nothing the same, you know, And
Speaker 3: that's so.
Speaker 5: And then they try to bury all of this, and
Speaker 5: then if you try to search for something, they're like, oh,
Speaker 5: it's graphic violent content. You're must be a serial killer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Well search it's sad.
Speaker 3: So you guys have to understand, like, there are reasons
Speaker 3: for people and their behaviors and the things that happen
Speaker 3: to them.
Speaker 2: So yeah, check that out. Check out a lot of the.
Speaker 3: Mk Ultra programs on serial killers and different things in
Speaker 3: our old shows.
Speaker 2: Just the whole thing is very disruptive and sad.
Speaker 3: So with this stuff, I'm hoping we're opening up a
Speaker 3: little piece of history for everybody to maybe get that curiosity.
Speaker 3: We can't present at all, But I'm hoping to light
Speaker 3: a fire, as Jane is, to help you expand your knowledge,
Speaker 3: and that's basically what we're doing.
Speaker 5: So, and that bring to light when people always go, oh,
Speaker 5: the government, wouldn't you know, wasn't purposely try to hurt people.
Speaker 5: There's no way that you know people could be that
Speaker 5: bad or that evil if you literally dig into our history.
Speaker 5: That is literally all you will see.
Speaker 3: Exactly if you weren't the right everything too bad for you,
Speaker 3: so ooh, that's a switch. But as for me, I'm
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Speaker 3: applies to this whole Epstein business and I'm definitely going
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Speaker 2: That I've been reading.
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