Speaker 1: All right, welcome to six ge Agenda. How we doing today?
Double banger?
Speaker 2: Actually triple banger if you watch Prometheus Report, got our
third episode today.
Speaker 1: We're getting wild.
Speaker 2: We got our boys, they're at Tas Road coming to
hang out with us today. I was on their show
recently and now they get to come hang out on
the sixth g.
Speaker 1: How you guys get doing today?
Speaker 3: Doing pretty good?
Speaker 4: Not bad?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 4: How's how's life going over there? Is he fella today?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: That's not even including my work life. It's just my
gosh fucking podcast life. It's insane, dude. I'm going too hard,
but you know what I feel like the momentum, you.
Speaker 1: Gotta take it, grab it by the balls and just
go right. We're doing how we're doing it? But yeah, man,
good to see you guys.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: We had a good conversation on your show. Since then,
I've been kind of checking out your show on Tuesdays.
Speaker 1: Touch me Tuesdays. It's awesome. It's live on YouTube and
rumble right, rumble too.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, dude.
Speaker 1: Some funny ship, dude, there's some funny ship in there.
I love it.
Speaker 2: I love it so and the vibe and then you know,
John brings in a little bit of wisdom.
Speaker 1: And so and so I love it. I love it.
Tell me what they can find time.
Speaker 4: Uh So we're at the Veritas Road on all the platforms, YouTube, Rumble, Twitter,
you can find us live on Tuesdays seven pm Central Time.
And then we're at the Veritas Road pod on Twitter,
right John. And then we we do random streams throughout
the week month whenever we can get guests on or
whenever we have something to talk about, typically around seven.
But whenever touch Me Tuesdays is like our weekly shit
talking show. I don't know what else to call it,
but like we yeah, we try. We try to bring
a little bit of truth mixed in there. But it's
one of those like give the people what they want,
to give them what they need type type concepts. So like, yeah,
oh I love it.
Speaker 2: It's just kind of like taking a temp at the
culture right now, what's going on, what's what's being talked about.
And I love your concept of like looking at like
democratic or leftist like news articles so you could get
some like good content.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: I love that. That's probably a great tactic. Dude, I
gotta take that approach sometime.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's been so much fun. Like if you want
a fun Thursday night, like nothing's going on, just drink
a glass of whiskey or five and read through all
of these just like super leftist webs there so entertaining,
like it's all about like how some you know, chick
with a dick is. I don't even know. It's so ridiculous.
I have a hard time coming up with an analogy,
like it's so much, it's so entertaining, highly recommend highly.
Speaker 2: Empowerment, dude, it's all about empowerment. Put it under that
label and you can say anything. Yeah, queen, yep, that's
how it is, dude. I've got a I've got a
stepsister and she does like nails or whatever. But like
all of her friends are drag queens.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So it's a wild world. They got a wild world
over there.
Speaker 2: I stay, I keep my distance, but I watch from
Afar to study.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't even know how to engage with those people.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 4: I was talking to somebody the other day about like
how they just like she felt like just so like
she did such a good thing. But she went to
a concert and she took care of people by just
handing out gay pride flags the entire time. She's such
a good person. Was like, I don't know how to
discuss reality with you at this point. If that's your
idea of like charity.
Speaker 2: Hard to do, you know, you know, And that was
something we're gonna talk about today. Is like I guess
we could say that it falls into the umbrella programmed reality,
which is like, you know, germ verse terrain theory. You
know what is that you know, we have we been
programmed to think that, Like the germ theory is like
how our world works. That way, they could sell us
with pharmaceuticals, et cetera, and uh, you know, and you know,
get us with spooky viruses that may come get us,
you know, and diuretic parasites, you know, et cetera.
Speaker 4: That's a big thing right now. The Taco Bell nonsense.
I guess everybody is getting the ships from eating taco bell.
How ironic is that we're pissed because we got the
ships from eating taco bell and we're blaming it on
Taylor Farms whoever's providing their their their lettuce.
Speaker 1: Yeah like that, yeah, lettuce. I think lettuce is the
big one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, it's not it's not taco bell. That's the problem.
It's the lettuce. Sure, yeah, I believe.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, don't worry about the you know, the snake
tongue coming out of the bell.
Speaker 1: Dude, It's got nothing to do with anything.
Speaker 4: That you need to Gosh, you know, I've never noticed
that every time we talk to you, every time I
listen to one of your shows, I'm like, holy shit,
there's another symbol I've never Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm all about dude. That's my favorite thing is symbolism. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm starting the Mystery Babylon on Sunday, so we're gonna
get deep into the symbology of everything. So tell me
about Veritas Road, how it started, you know, what it's
all about, you know, like what brought you into it.
I know you guys had a co host before, you
know how, you know, Just tell me about tell the
people about you guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So, me and Murph is John's older brother, a
lifelong friend of mine, started he went off the deep
end way back when, and we started talking about He
started telling me about like all the classic conspiracy theories,
like nine to eleven being chief among them. Right at
the time, and I was a weird like hippie kid
who didn't believe in like modern medicine. But I hadn't
explored that whole world of like, you know, nine to
eleven might be an inside job, the earth is flat,
Nancy Pelosi might have a penis. Michelle Obama for sure
had the penis. Like I hadn't explored that world at
that point, and so it was eye opening for me
hearing all of these just in saying perspectives from somebody
who quite frankly seemed in saying at the time. But
we decided to sit there because a lot of our
conversations were centered around, like, just what is truth? There's
so much shit out there there, There's so many people
saying X saying why you know, there's so many narratives
out there. Before we even enter into a lot of
these discussions, we first got to kind of define our
terms and figure out, Okay, what are we looking for?
We're looking for truth? Well, okay, great, what is truth?
And there was an episode of our show early on
which is truly terrible. John will tell you it was
god awful. But the guest we had, we were talking
about it with him and he's like, truth is what
is and I was like, uh yeah, like that's a one
hundred percent true.
Speaker 1: It is what is.
Speaker 4: It's like the idea of yahweh right, I am that
I am? Like truth is what is? And so that
started this whole journey for me of I mean, obviously
I don't have half of your knowledge, Andrew, but it's
looking into some of these concepts and trying to learn
from people like you to figure out what is out there,
what's actually going on. And it's kind of the show
ended up with the name of the Veritas Road. John
was kind enough to come on and offer wisdom and
tech support and he's become a just a massive part
of the show at this point. Yeah, John, what do
you have to ask that?
Speaker 3: I mean, not a lot. It's like I kind of
got into the whole you know, conspiracy whatever you want
to call it, kind of around twenty sixteen, Like I
was in high school when the first you know, Trump
election came around, and I just remember thinking's like, this
is the craziest shit that I've ever witnessed. Is like,
there's no way that like anything that is like being
presented in like the mainstream media is actually real because
it's just all too kind of ludicrous, and so that
kind of prompted me to start to be kind of
a little bit more skeptical of the world around me.
And then when twenty twenty hit, I was in college
at the time, and that just, you know, kind of
completely shattered everything because I was like, you know, the
what we're presented as like we live in a world
of a bunch of different competing like political powers, all
vying for their own interests. That concept went out the
window then, because it's like twenty twenty twenty twenty one
proved that that's just not true because they all moved
in lockstep with one another, and it was like just
so unnatural if you're thinking just in terms of like, hey,
this is just people doing this, This is just meant
And once I kind of realized that, it's like man,
I got to re examine a lot of things and
start kind of diving into, like, you know, the deeper
levels of what's the motivations behind us all of these
different conspiracies and world events.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really odd.
Speaker 2: It seems like there's like some paradigm shattering events that
happened periodically every few years, ten years whatever in the past.
I would see in the past thirty Well, I don't
know since the sixties for sure.
Speaker 1: I guess you could say, what is the purpose of that?
Speaker 2: Do you think, like, what is the purpose of I
guess the mass trauma event that they'd like to enact
on people. I guess it's all propaganda, narrative serving or like.
Speaker 1: What is that? You know?
Speaker 2: Because it also wakes people up, is my point. It
also brings people to look for the truth. So there's
this like kind of balancing act that goes on with
that that I wonder if they're aware of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wakes people up, but it also to the
people that it doesn't I think for everybody it brings
about like natural instinct a little bit. I almost think
of it as the way like a drill sergeant works.
It's like it'll get in your face and like bring
out like the natural instinct of like fight or flight,
but he'll get you to deny those natural instincts of
taking your own action and then defer that action off
to someone else. So it's like they'll do these like yeah,
they'll do these like mass trauma event, like nine to
eleven mass trauma event. Right, it's the most ludicrous thing
that you've ever seen. The story is completely retarded. It
makes no sense. And I think, you know, for a
lot of people, they can probably see that. But at
the same time that kind of I have to, you know,
deny that because they're not ready to confront that reality,
and in doing so, they defer their authority on what's true,
what's real to whatever you know, entities or whatever you
want to call it that's running the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the narratives that are being served to replace that instinct. Yeah, man,
it's genius, you know.
Speaker 2: But I do think that it leads to some people
like us or you know, people the question things and
people that start to look for the truth. And I
think that that is it's like the laws of nature,
you know, or the laws of the universe, you know,
God's will, whatever you want to call it, where it's
like there, you know, there's got to be an aspect
to it where good comes out of it as well, right,
and so it's like that sacrificial element, you know, And yeah,
so I like to lean into that aspect of it,
but there is something to it where it's like COVID,
you know.
Speaker 1: That was kind of my shift from I.
Speaker 2: Was always into like crazy stuff you know, like ancient Aliens.
I was like into like mystic stuff, you know, I
was deep, and then when COVID happened, I kind of started.
You know. That's when I found the Mystery Babylon Bill
Cooper stuff and David Iyke where you went on. I
forgot what he went on, but it was like that
guy who's like a fuck, I can't remember it, but
it was like a three part series thing that he
did about COVID where it was like three hours each
and he talked, do you guys know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 4: I'm struggling to remember. I was watching so many Corona
debunking videos at that point. They all got lost in
that and this was.
Speaker 1: The big dude. His head to been the biggest one.
Uh what was it on?
Speaker 2: Dude?
Speaker 1: Because it.
Speaker 2: Whatever, we're gonna move on, somebody in the chat probably
knows somebody in the chat's gonna hit us with it.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the.
Speaker 2: Day, it was like this three hour each and he
was talking about crazy shit where I was like, all right,
that really woke me up to like world controllers, you know,
a different aspect of what's going on, you know, And
then I started realizing like, oh, the conspiracy world is
here to funnel you into the ideology of the world's
controllers without you realizing it. So to our point here,
the truth or movement has even been weaponized because I
do think they know that some people try to wake up,
and so I think it's our job of revigil because
a lot of this stuff they know we're waking up,
So they got to hit us with bullshit too on
the truth thread.
Speaker 6: Dude.
Speaker 4: That was one of the biggest things that frustrated me
early on because coming from I grew up in a
super strict conservative religious household and coming into like trying
to get away from the mainstream narrative and move into
some of the you know, these alternative narrative concepts. I
think they come with the idea that like, oh, people
are going to be questioning things. This is going to
be like a freedom of intellectual pursuit, right, And for me,
what you find in any kind of echo chamber you
wind up in is there these set narratives whatever they
happen to be in the mainstream there for a long
time it was you know, chinavirus, fauci, you know, or
you know, nine to eleven terrorists, whatever, it happens to be.
And then there was the conspiracy narrative that was like,
you know, maybe it's nephelom DNA that you know. Obviously
nine to eleven was an inside job, and no matter
what lane you find yourself in, if you question that narrative,
you could potentially be committing some kind of like intellectual
or social suicide within those echo chambers. And so the
very act of questioning is, I don't know, it can
be dangerous in whatever world you find yourself in, I
think because they are so heavily trying to pigeonhole people
in these these set narratives, be they the mainstream narrative
or you know, whatever wild shit you're reading online, you
better not question whatever the prevailing ideology is wherever you find.
Speaker 2: Yourself absolutely well, and the deeper I got into it,
I realized like, okay, well, what are both places pointing to?
And it is it's this idea of ascension, transhumanism, this
kind of merging with tech, or living forever, or this
world's a matrix. We live in a gnostic programmed reality.
So all these things lead into one ideology which kind
of leads us pretty well into this idea of skin suits, cloning,
plugging your technology into plugging your technology, plugging your soul
into a technological chip or whatever that gets put into
a biological you know, half silicon, half biology, you know.
And that was something we wanted to talk about today,
was cloning. So what kind of stuff did you find
about that?
Speaker 4: So I love you, I mean I went down that
that line of thinking just trying to uh prove its
false from my perspective, because that was one of the
things like when I started exploring the conspiracy world, I
was handed like not eleven flat Earth clones. Like I
went from just happy, go lucky guys my eighth year
of college right to like the Earth is flat and
everybody's a clone. I was like, son of a bitch,
they can't all be right, Like you've got to be
bullshitting me on some level. And so I set out
to be like, Okay, maybe there's a reasonable reality here.
I've got to find it. And I started looking into
all of these different I mean, there's shitload of videos online.
We have a long dry list of them if you
want to play any of them, of like all of
these examples of folks glitching out, so to speak, on
the Nicki Minaj John do you have it over there?
Do I need to send it to you? Yeah, I'm
abysmal with the text side of the ship.
Speaker 1: Are they all celebrities?
Speaker 4: All of these are?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Interesting because I do think there's something to that with
the MK ultra celebrity. Yeah, yeah, Kelch's sex kittens is
Sam Tripley likes call him.
Speaker 1: There's definitely something to that.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, let's.
Speaker 1: Pull him up, dude.
Speaker 2: So there's like a laundry list of you guys remember,
do you guys remember what's his name? Glitched whenever he
was talking about Trump signing some kind of executive order
and they had to like, he's the bald dude. I
forgot his name. He's designing, He's like designs bad dude.
I'll try to find him. But it was interesting because
it was very similar to this stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this entire season been like for you get.
Speaker 4: This was another widely publicized one where Draymond Green just
I think there's probably nothing going on upstate, Like this
was one that didn't play as a clone for me.
But he just like stares off into space to freeze.
Speaker 1: But it's been it's been a it's been a heck.
Speaker 4: Of a ride to be honest, and then it's like
the West World Clawns where they just freeze him and
still life there for a minute. What the fuck I
found out I was injured and I had to have surgery.
Speaker 1: Again, or you know, it's almost like somebody edited uh huh.
Speaker 4: It's super weird. And he says his name and he
like wakes up.
Speaker 1: Guys like Draymond, everybody on this team. They come over
around me.
Speaker 4: It's so strength, you know, and it's so strength, very
comforting to me, and it.
Speaker 2: Whoa dude, it's so still you think it's paused, but
then it's so natural, you know, it's not edited. The
way he naturally like moves his lips back together, and
like when he says his name is crazy, it's it's.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing that got me wondering what was
actually going on here because so many of these look
weirdly organic, Like, so many of them look strangely organic.
This is another one with who is this CARDI B?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember this one was all over the place.
You remember this one? Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, No, what the hell was she doing?
Speaker 1: It is it's almost like they're acting.
Speaker 4: It seems like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the Jeezy said it. They're fucking with us.
It is crazy.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised. And then you have the other
side of the conspiracy theory, folks saying the people in
the back are like her handlers. M because that woman
like when she when she freezes up the people in
the back, like freak out for a second. That girl's
fondling somewhere in the I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is crazy because it's like, you know,
the cynical part of me always goes deeper where I'm like, yeah,
this is too obvious.
Speaker 1: It's like too obvious, like it's too easy.
Speaker 2: It's like this is like they're trying to convince this
to this idea for some reason, like like it almost
gets into like it's so odd man, because it's like
how do you fucking rectify that thought proces?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like that's even worse than then these guys are clones
being programmed, Like try to try to figure out why
they would make you think that they're being cloned in
programmed well logic EXCEP.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're on a path to finishing the NBA.
Speaker 4: This week. It's a very timely John occonnell. Yeah, look
at that, and.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I think he's just taking a ship. Dude.
Speaker 4: He's gotta be like right now, he's fine, bulging diaper booty.
That's a that's a concentrating face.
Speaker 1: That's not he found somebody in the crowd. He's just
staring in at the WLD.
Speaker 2: This is crazy. I can't believe this guy's lived longer
than Lindsey Graham.
Speaker 1: That's so shocked crazy.
Speaker 4: I'm not convinced they're not the same person. After all,
the ship's gone on within the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: Oh you know net Yang Hu's wife and Lindsay Graham.
I've seen some stuff about how that's actually who he's
posing his Like, what what kind of flatter earth is
this flatter?
Speaker 1: This is crazy. Let me see if I can find that.
That was the thunder though.
Speaker 2: Oh man, it was so good. I was like, that
is hilarious. They had like a side by side of
them too.
Speaker 4: Oh that's awesome.
Speaker 1: You got the other ones?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this one's my favorite. This one's great.
I forgot about this one as soon as possible.
Speaker 1: Ten states.
Speaker 4: As I said on Friday, I started their early voting
the day that we lost Ginsburg. But to be clear,
you're not taking any arrows out of your quiver.
Speaker 1: You're not ruling anything out. Good morning, good morning. Hell yeah,
we have a responsibility. We take an oath to protect
and defend the time.
Speaker 4: So lost, good morning, Sunday morning. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: So I mean there there's there's a shitload of those
out there that everybody tries to throw in front of
you and say, oh my gosh, these people are glitching
their clones. And I thought similarly to you, I was like,
why why do you feel the need to focus on
this so much? Like maybe they are, maybe they aren't.
Why the hell doesn't matter. But now I'm curus, like
is it we're you know, like, now I'm curious is
this even a thing? Is as possible?
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, it's like, what is that? Oh my gosh,
oh yeah, let's check. Let's check this out.
Speaker 2: Hey man, it ain't it ain't too far off, It's
really not. That's actually crazy. He's even got womanly eyes.
Speaker 1: Look at his eyes a little bit does like JD.
Speaker 4: Van's eyes.
Speaker 2: You know, those don't look like you know, it's kind
of he's a deceptive man, you know, because his eyes
his eyes would lead you to think he's not as
demonic as he really is. You know, it's one of
those things that's how it goes. So yeah, man, you know,
I I wonder about that. Like there's a startup in
California where they're making brainless cloned like bodies. Maybe I
need to look that up because I don't know if
that's the right terminology. But it's for organs like organ transplants, right.
But the idea here is like, well, then you also
have Sam Altman who says he wants to put his
brain in a jar so they could put it into
a body. It's like, is this kind of the purpose
of this you know what I mean? Do they want
to transplant their brain into another you know, body or whatever. Yes,
as you know if the materialist people, I think probably
lean that way. And then you have other people that
are like cursewhile that are like, no, we can plug
in our consciousness into technology and then put that into
a like silicon based body, which is what they think
the grays are.
Speaker 1: They think the grays are actually just like.
Speaker 2: Either robotic silicon you know, humanoid whatever, or they're like
you know, somebody plugged into it. Right, It's a weird concept.
Speaker 4: That is. But honestly, after so I was curious, like, Okay,
let's assume that this is the case, and this is
what some of these people are trying to do. They're
trying to manufact you know, they're trying to make this
transhumanist agenda thing happen, or they're trying to manipulate the
public by you know, cloning people and putting celebrities out
in front of folks, whatever it happens to be. Like,
let's assume on some level that's true. How the hell
are we doing that, right, Because there's got to be
some methodology behind this concept. There's gonna be some way
to make that happen. And so there are a couple
of part of your big problems, like the brain's really complicated, right,
Like it's difficult to map out, and they've come out publicly.
I'm sure these have existed for a long time, but
they've come out publicly within the past ten or fifteen
years with just a shitload of new brain mapping technologies,
a lot of them focused on like acoustic holographs essentially,
where they're putting these like ultrasound meshes on top of
people's skulls and using that to map out people's brains
in real time. And essentially what allegedly they're doing is
like they're able to map out thought process and behaviors
based on whatever images they're pulling from this acoustic calligraphy
whatever the hell it's called.
Speaker 2: Oh, they're definitely they're doing that shit right now with
all kinds of yeah, dude, yeah, Like like uh, Meta
just came out with the thing where they they can
use AI to take.
Speaker 1: Your brain wave patterns and put it to text.
Speaker 2: It's called Bring to Queer t qw e r t
Y Brain to Querity, and they literally just put like pads.
Speaker 1: On your head like little you know, I don't know
what they are.
Speaker 2: They're kind of like the little things that they put
on your body when they want to do the electrodes.
So it's like they put that on your head and
then they're able to read with AI. They can tell
what you're thinking and then put it to text, like
this person's thinking about a cow, you know what I mean,
And so you know it's crazy.
Speaker 1: So they have the technology to do that, right.
Speaker 2: I just did a Voice to Skull episode about AI
doing that three days before I see this article come out.
It was insane, like they just came out with it.
I was like, Wow, it's really here. So you know,
I just think of Epstein when I think of cloning, right,
and I think it's your ranch. I think of the
designer baby stuff. I wonder what that was, what the
experiments had to do with. Yeah, there's a lot of
interesting questions here with that. But we can watch this
little sixty minutes where it gets mentioned, which is interesting.
Speaker 1: Can you see that?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's on here, ye failing Like maybe there is
some kind of procedure that had happened that they weren't
aware of. And I believe this is in the file.
Sure there's something in there about baby actually being born
and then just just disappearing like Gilan taking it. I
personally never witnessed anything like that, but I do remember
overhearing conversations about trying to create the perfect baby, the
perfect baby, the perfect gene pool, and I know that
there was sort of a hunt, if you will, for
the perfect gene pool.
Speaker 1: Zara was a wacky hunt. Now.
Speaker 2: I did an episode where I talked about engineering. Fuck engineering, Fuck,
I can't remember engineering. I don't know engineering something dude,
and pretty much it was about was Epstein and this
and this whole idea of like.
Speaker 1: Engineering the new man, right, engineering a.
Speaker 2: New So he was very plugged in with the lady
who started twenty three and meters. And her name is
Ann Wachowski or an wichob whatever, it's a weird name.
And so her sister was married to the CEO of Google.
She was the CEO of YouTube. Their dad was like
a some kind of engineer for CERN.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Their mom was known as like the madam of like
Silicon Valley.
Speaker 2: Right, So you literally have this whole family who is
all plugged into Silicon Valley CERN, you know, the Internet
and DNA, and then you have Epstein, who's like heavily
involved with all this shit, and then them right. So, dude,
that's what I think of when I hear this. So
I just want to put that context into play here, by.
Speaker 5: The way, for Epstein and his cronies and a place
to enact the most freakish fantasies include.
Speaker 1: Well, we had a Templar's cross on that one pillow there.
Did you see that?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 4: I missed it.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Kind of It's got the Saints, it's got the Saints thing,
but it's close and a place.
Speaker 5: To enact the most freakish fantasies, including at one point
a plan for a controversial designer baby and human cloning project,
in which emails from the files show the maniacal Epstein
was prepared to invest in as long as he remained anonymous.
Speaker 8: We were hearing some of the most horrible and heinous
things that anyone could imagine.
Speaker 1: Those are ugly dogs, dude. That wouldn't take th right.
Speaker 2: If I was to pick a dog, dude, it wouldn't
be those, you know what I mean. This guy's got
money and and poor choices, a lot of poor choices
in his life, and this being one of them.
Speaker 4: If you can afford a designer baby, why are you
getting such a shaggy dogs?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good question, dude, Thank you. Like where's
the King's line of you know?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 8: Canines at Gahan span everything from the harvesting of sex
organs to allegations of women having forced abortions or forced
pregnancies or coerced pregnancies, I think.
Speaker 1: And there's been a lot of that.
Speaker 2: So like women waking up on the table inside a
Zorro ranch and he talked to Steve Bannon and said
he brought in a lot of scientists from Los Alamos
Labs to go work at Zora Ranch.
Speaker 1: And it's like, Oh, I wonder what they were involved in.
Speaker 2: Right, So it's like I think that there's like something
going on here. And then when you add this context
into play, CEO Sam Altman and his husband are funding
the creation of genetically engineered babies.
Speaker 1: Two gay guys. They want to engineer your babies, dude.
Speaker 2: This is where it leads, right, And Sam Alton is
heavily plugged in with Peter Thiel, the technocrat, fucking dark
Enlightenment group of people that want to create this like
whatever this is. You know that they're trying to do, right,
what do you think about that? It's the last shit
that is through you.
Speaker 4: Man? As far as where it's headed. Half the time,
I don't even feel well enough educated on the world
stage to know what the fuck we're driving towards. Other
than it can't be it can't be good. I mean,
it seems so much of it seems to be focused
on this transhumanist agenda. I know there's one cloning company.
If you looked into Clonaid at.
Speaker 1: All, Yeah, that's the first one to do the sheep right.
Speaker 4: No, that was a different company back in the nineties.
I can't know what that company was. I don't think
that was Clone aate be wrong. Clone AID was the
first one to allegedly produce the first human clone. I
have to look at my notes. I can't remember when
that was. I think it was like in twenty what
is that John in twenty eleven, twenty ten, something like that. No,
it is two thousands, man and maybe yeah, maybe in
early like two thousand and three or something. I have
to track that down here in a second. There it
is two thousand and two. They created the first human allegedly,
according to them their literature, they created the first human
clone and named her Eve. Now, the weird thing about
Clone AID to me is a we're talking about a
business that's focused on like cloning babies. Like the whole
concept is like, we can help parents who can't conceive,
we can help Sam Altman and his gay husband have
a baby, and that's good because it's good. And we're
making babies and that's good because it's good. But the
head of Clone AD is this lady named Bridget. I
don't know how to pronounce his name, Bois Cellier. I
think she's French, but she is one of like only
three Rileyan bishops in the world, if you're familiar.
Speaker 3: But it was founded by the founder of the Ryalien movement,
the French.
Speaker 1: Dude, I can't.
Speaker 3: It's this religion that's based around this French guy went
hiking in the woods in the seventies and claims to
be to have been encountered by an alien race known
as the Elohem, and he started a whole religions on
these eloheim these alien people who who he claims created
humanity coming back to like build this like utopic society.
And he founded this company in like the nineties.
Speaker 2: Holy shit, dude. Okay, dude, this is crazy. We're about
to have a crazy conversation.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this this ship is nuts, dude.
Speaker 2: Okay, So there's so many places I want to go
right here right now.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I know exactly this thing.
Speaker 2: I totally forgot the name of this dude, and this
totally comes out of the I want to know if
this guy's connected to the Theosophical Institute or any Nazis.
Speaker 1: What year was this, nineteen seventies?
Speaker 4: Hm?
Speaker 1: So the seventies is.
Speaker 2: Whenever they revamped the neo Nazi regime, I forgot what
it was called.
Speaker 1: I wonder. Okay, so here's the thing.
Speaker 2: So you see how it's got the Nazi swastika in
the middle there, right, So the whole alien you know,
coming here and all this shit came from the Nazis,
which was a reinterpretation of like channeling that they were
doing with the real society. And then they were like
pretty much saying that like that's where the scientology shit
kind of came out of later like l Ron Hubbard,
which was like theosophical adjacent, but it kind of like
took the planetary hierarchy that Alice Bailey talked about and
turned it into this concept of aliens in astro theology
and ancient astronaut theory came out of that, right, And
so this all comes from Nazism. And this thing I'm
kind of into right now is that the whole Dark
Enlightenment Epstein movement, all these guys is a extension of
the Nazi movement. And you can find that with Peter Teel.
You can find that Elon Musk, Like there's connections there.
And so when you look at it, that way, and
then you see this kind of reiteration of like this
like the symbols and then the alien stuff channeling, cloning,
and then you connect that with the uh shit, this
this whole trauma stuff, right like mk Ultra started with
the Nazis and it was all trauma based.
Speaker 1: Mind control stuff came out of that.
Speaker 2: And that was with paper Clip, right well, Epstein with
the Gate you know, the whole Gate kids thing. No,
so it's like you know, kids get chosen in a
school like special and so they special class and they
have to drink like usually they have to drink like
a pink liquid and all kinds of weird stuff. I
think it connects into this idea that like there's a
certain person, certain type of people, certain type of life.
Blood line, which is what the Nazis talked about is
the Arians, and they believe that they had the most
of that blood in them, which is why Epstein was
super focused on if you listen to Georgiani Nordics, right,
because the Nordics have a lot of that Germanic bloodline
whatever it is that the Aryan race that they believe
this is this all stems from Nazism and so here
it talks about how Epstein wanted to create people with
supernatural abilities by traumatizing them and then making human clones
designer babies out of that later. Right, And so I
think all this connects together, Like, what was the purpose
of mk Ultra Is what I'm getting at. Was it
possibly that they're trying to access certain latent abilities within
certain DNA bloodlines, Is that they could then create this
transhumanist agenda and see it come to fruition, dude.
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking, because this is a relatively new concept
for me that you're talking about it almost the first
thing I think about is maybe a little hanging fruit
is that is so intimately built into like every superhero
concept out there that I'm familiya with the I'm not
a big superhero guy, but like all the X Men,
what Spider, all these people go through this traumatic event
or pressure builds, diamonds rat and then come out the
other ends, is like this reborn godlike creature so to speak.
Speaker 1: It's interesting you just brought that up.
Speaker 2: So the X Men actually came out of like the
comic book X Men came out the same year the
Esslin Institute was started.
Speaker 1: And if you know about the Esslin Institute.
Speaker 2: That's like this psy psychedelic intelligence operation that's going on
through people like Terrence McKenna, Dennis McKenna maps where they're
studying MDMA and psychedelics, all this stuff that Joe Rogan pushes, right,
this is like all coming from the Esslin Institute, Okay.
And so it's really interesting to me because you have
people like Rick Rubin who is involved with anthropic and
this like AI god kind of concept, but he's got
more books in the Esslin Institute.
Speaker 1: Than anybody else.
Speaker 2: And so there's this direct kind of connection where it's like, oh,
you're trying to reprogram people, Like what did they do
with m k altro psychedelics?
Speaker 1: What did they do? They try to reprogram people by
ego death.
Speaker 2: That's the point of psychedelics, right, And when you have
ego death, you could be reprogrammed with a new ego.
So point being like this whole x Men thing like
came out of I think what you're saying, like this
mutant creating a new super whatever super race. It's all
Nazi shit, dude, It's all nazishit to uber mitge.
Speaker 4: So why My question then is always why why flood
the media with that hy push that out to the
mass populous. Is it an effort to make it seem
so fantastic? People aren't gonna think all that's really going on?
Is it an effort to glorify their efforts? You know
on some level?
Speaker 5: Is it?
Speaker 4: You know the classic like all they're just poking fun
at the masses, that's what you know, what do you
think it is? That's the impetus behind flooding people's minds
with that stuff, because it's all over like the whole
NCU universe type stuff that everybody is obsessed like. It's
it's so intimately built into all of that. Why shove
that in people's face is to such a large degree.
Speaker 2: You're saying, like the glitching CARDI B's and the glitching
like that kind of stuff, why put that in people's face?
Speaker 4: Well, that too, I'm thinking along the lines like the
like you were talking about, like this this, this, these
people that are traumatized in an effort to produce something otherworldly,
something fantastic, maybe the MK alter however you want to
look at it, like why build that into so much
of the media, you know, why why shove that in
people's faces so much?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think that most people are going to
take it to the place I'm taking it, which is like,
this is an operation being done on people, right, Like
this is people are going to be like, oh wow,
that's crazy. People have gifted you know, latent abilities that
they can access, you know, by certain processes, right, and
they're going to try to technologically do it so you're
not being like traumatized. But I think that that all
is it actually will all people into believing and actually
supporting it. I think I haven't seen anybody say like, oh,
it's evil, you know when it comes to you know
what I mean, Like what did they talk about with neuralink?
They say that you're gonna be like Jesus, you know
what I mean, You're gonna have god like abilities?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what is that?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: That's that concept gives me the he begbi's like you're
letting fucking who into your brain? Like that's so creepy
and you're right, like they all talk about it, like
the rogans of the world talk about it like it's
gonna be this like new age other world that you're
gonna essentially have superpowers, good for you type shit. And
then there's the other end of the spectrum the world
I was more familiar with you growing up, where like
literally everything's evil Harry Potter, Satan you know, uh, neuralink
everything everything is of Saitan like that. That's the other
end of that spectrum. I guess I'm probably more familiar
with because I've heard a lot of people admonish those
concepts in my little corner of the universe. But yeah,
that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, I just I wonder about that because
you're exactly right, Like if you go back and look
at all this narrative around the Nephelo fawn angels, this
idea of like you know god men, well that is Superman, right,
that is the concept of like the demigods. You know,
what is the difference when you look like comics and
this idea of trying to reprogram people into this new
kind of version of the same concepts of like pagan
you know, mythology, right, And so it's very interesting when
you look at this kind of people, it's so in
their face, you know, to your point, like people don't
see it, you know, it's right in your face. That's
kind of why you don't notice what's really going on.
Speaker 4: That makes total sense. I think I saw Nephunter mentioned like,
it's it's given to kids as myth and then when
they grow up as adults they see it as myths still,
and so why are you going to believe that it's
so it's it's it's it's the stuff of fantasy, Like
why are you going to believe that? Right? Yeah, completely
insight and I mean you're right, you're right about them
doing the same thing with the the people glitching out
like that was so full on in people's faces for
the span of like two or three years. I feel
like I couldn't I couldn't turn on the the youtubes
without seeing you know, eight or twelve of those videos
come across. Maybe you have a schizophrenic algorithm, but it
seemed like they were really pushing that out there for
people to see. So again, like why why do that?
Why why push it into people's faces? That always seemed
so strange to me, especially in light of some of
these weird like like people and events. There was trying
to remember these guys' names. There was one Peter Beeter.
Have you read have you listened to his like audio clips?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay, in light of some of these things, where they
seem to be calling them out, but we're we're Peter
Beeter being one. There was another guy, what's his name? Gosh,
I've lost it. I'll find it in a minute. This
guy who claimed to be like the the product of
some kind of MK ultra trauma came out and was
talking about like all these Mark one and Mark two
clones very publicly. Yeah him, thank you?
Speaker 2: John name Donald Marshall, Donald Marshall. Okay, in my head
I was thinking of like Max something.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but yeah, it wasn't right, Yeah,
No I didn't. Yeah, no I didn't. I didn't see
this other guy.
Speaker 4: Oh, John, is there any change you can pull that up?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I mean there's definitely got to be
this MK ultra connection with this like reprogramming. Figure out
how like that's stranger things, right, that's kind of like
the whole thing. And uh, I think again it's exposure gate,
you know, that's kind of my whole thing. It's like
a thing I'm like kind of big on. It's like
where the deep state's exposing itself right in a way
where it can generate your reaction and everything towards the
solution that they want, right, which is like say, if
it's AI government, well if you expose all the corruption,
then people would eventually be like, yeah, this system sucks,
I'll take AI government over this, right.
Speaker 1: So you know, the.
Speaker 2: Savior that was supposed to help me just went full
Zionist and he's over here working with you know. So
it's like that kind of shit where they're like, okay, yeah,
you know, fuck it, just burn it all down. And
so I think a big part of that is and
chaos creates disorder, which they could create a new world
order out of, right, And that's kind of the whole
idea here, isn't it. That's the old conspiracy theory is
to create a new world order.
Speaker 1: Well, nobody ever really got down to the blueprint and
how you do that? Have they? Well now we're starting
to see it, dude.
Speaker 4: That's such a good point. That's such a good point.
We were talking about that the other day with the
Borean files. It's like this whole idea like people being called,
like if you want to throw the Christian perspective out
of it, just people being called impose order on chaos,
because that's what these people are trying to do. They're
creating chaos, and they're going to impose their own way
of life on that chaos, their own concepts on that chaos.
So if individual people don't do that, just opening yourself
up to be a pawn in whatever systematic chaos is
being pushed on you, like you're just going to be
another piece contributing to that. And that's where I think
a lot of shows like yours, a lot of the
things that go on in this space have a lot
of value because it gives people an oboc that the
chaos that exists out there and understand what kind of
reactions are appropriate in relation to that chaos and which
ones don't make any fucking sense. It's like all the
noticing stuff. John complains about the noticing constantly. He very
much despises the noticers at this point, but I think
it's a rational perspective because, like we.
Speaker 1: Color revolution at this point ahead, yeah.
Speaker 4: No, exactly exactly, Like we've looked up this perspective, and
now if you respond to that perspective, you're playing into
the hands of all exactly what these folks want you
to do. You're gonna be a part of the reality
they're trying to bring about. So it's this weird like
damned if you do, damned if you don't type reality
we live in. And I mean, I'm not going to
claim to have any answers. I'm just as lost as
fucking anybody. But right, but I think it helps to
see that concept coming down the pie, I guess, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and see it like, you know, especially with the
noticing thing. It's the people who are getting caught up
in it are only seeing it from like the material perspective,
especially like people looking at Israel Is like right, you know,
they're looking at like the banking system that's run completely
by like you know, the Jews, or the healthcare system
or whatever. They're only really looking at it from like
a material perspective and not really realizing that like, hey,
their motivations aren't material Jews.
Speaker 2: And what's funny about this is what did I say?
It's all Nazis shit?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It is, I mean legit. And here's
the thing.
Speaker 2: I understand the Zionis and everything else, but what you
have to understand also, people don't understand nuance, like who
put the Nazis into power? Who started the ideology that
created the mythology that led to the Nazis being in power.
A lot of people don't know their history to understand
that it was industrialists and it was Zionists.
Speaker 1: Why would the.
Speaker 2: Industrialists who destroyed Germany in the first place create a
mythology or help create a mythology that led to the nationalism,
which led to the Zionist creating Israel, which is something
that Moses has predicted eighty years before, fifty years before
World War One. So he predicted that the nationalist movement
would rise and create and make them have to move
to a state like Palaceinne in the Middle East.
Speaker 1: Why because they wanted to do that.
Speaker 2: This is something they want, just like right now, the
message didn't forget how to wage you know, war by deception.
We're finding out about this stuff because they want us to.
Why because they want to generate another Hitlarian fucking boogeyman
so they can drive Jews over to Israel and kill
them all.
Speaker 1: Who knows.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the plan is, but I know
that this is being manufactured. And so looking at the Hitler,
you know, situation and understanding that helps you understand this.
It's like the industrial industrialists funded the people like Guido
von Liszt.
Speaker 1: You know, Helena.
Speaker 2: Bovatski, all these people who created these ideologies that led
to the Nazis. So again exposure Gate happened, then it's
happening again.
Speaker 5: M M.
Speaker 1: You know, got out Jeezy for the twenty bro. You
guys are awesome.
Speaker 2: We also got another super chat and hearing who we
got Tierra right on that will make you a hollid baby.
Let's go all right, cool, get back to it though. Yeah,
I just think that, you know, there's a lot more
to this that people. It's just like you said, this materialist,
literalist kind of idea of like the Jews, you know,
and it's way deeper than this. You know, it's the industrialist,
it's the internationalist. It's the people that have no beholden
loyalty to any nation. They only have it to themselves
and they're banking cabal of Babylonian black magic magicians.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I get passionate about this topic.
Speaker 4: I like that theliteration there, that was nice. But I
think you said something that for a a retard like me,
is very important. In there's like there's a lot of
nuance and a lot of these avenues and one of
the things that, uh, I don't know. I try to
use to divine what people are providing good reasonable information
and perspectives and who who aren't is is who's okay
with saying I don't know. I don't fucking know what
they're doing. I just know it's I know, just know
what's bad. I just know it's stupid. I don't have
an answer for you, because the problem we run into
with a lot of these narratives, like like the noticing
narrative or whatever it happens to be, is a lot
of these concepts from for Joe Blow, you know, Joe
Sixpack running a podcast on his computer in fucking Columbia,
Tennessee with twelve dolls, Like a lot of these concepts
are borderline unfalsifiable. Like sure, there's a lot of circumstantial
evidence on the internet. You can read all the books,
you can do all the things, but you can't, you know,
pull Pelosi out of Congress and you know, have her,
you know, flash her demon eyes. You can't. You can't
show somebody Michelle Obaum's penis, Like so much of them
are unfalsifiable, and so I think, in an effort to
lend enough credence, to the truth as possible. You've got
to be okay with saying, look, I know it's insane.
I know they're trying to push people one direction or another.
I don't exactly know what the end game is all
the time, you know, Yeah, super useful.
Speaker 1: It's hard to know the endgame with all this shit.
Speaker 2: You know, you get an idea, you know, you kind
of you know, you get this kind of broad general direction.
You're like, oh, it's going that way somewhere, you know,
and that's about all you got.
Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, it's really interesting.
Speaker 2: So we can get it to you know, something else
that kind of change around this kind of time, you know,
I mean, so well, all right, let's frame it this way.
Speaker 1: So you know the Tartaria thing, right, you guys, have
you gotten.
Speaker 4: Into that loosely familiar?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: So there's this theory and concept that they used to
use free energy before let's say the world's fair times,
right before World War One? Right, so we're talking eighteen
seventeen whatever, and this would be like the liberty bell.
Speaker 1: Why was it cracked? You know what I mean? Things
like that, right, and you know what happened to the organs?
Speaker 2: They used to be too different inside of churches, you know,
all these kind of concepts, and the idea was like
healing through magic, what the fuck? Healing through frequency rather
which is like what's the difference, But healing through frequency
and things like that was a big thing. And like
free energy to an extent, not like electrical, but you
know whatever.
Speaker 1: And then you had like this re building of the world.
Speaker 2: Which was like these boxed houses, you know, the world's
fair happens, they introduce electricity. You get like this different
kind of material.
Speaker 1: Version of the world.
Speaker 2: And Rudolph Steiner would say it's the age of armand
coming in where it's like this different force was kind
of taking over whatever. It's really interesting work he has.
But the point is here that I'm kind of getting
at is you have the germ verse terrain theory get created,
which takes you out of the concept that you have
this aura, this kind of like terrain that is both
metaphysical and physical, and it's you know, nature and that
you maintain the harmony and you stay healthy. It's that simple.
It's not about germs, it's not about all these different things.
And so I just wonder, as you look at the
evolution of that, what your thoughts are in that.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think I think so much of that
shift away from terrain theory, which was the prevailing methodology
for how people took care of themselves for a long time.
I think so much of that shift was focused on
a surface level, just industrializing the healthcare system and industrializing
people in general, but on a greater level, like there's
no better way, in my opinion, to get people to
hand over their self agency than to make them feel
so dumb that they don't like they can't be responsible
for their own health in the morning, Like the germ
theory narrative I think essentially drives people toward believing like
they don't know enough to wipe their own ass tomorrow.
You've got to go see it doctor to help teach
you how to do X yves. Let's no, it's not,
it's not how this works. And I think it's well
born out in that whole narrative from from uh Louis
pastor to now, like all these things that have happened,
all these.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the guy who started pasteurizing milk. You know,
who would have guessed that that guy sucked? You know
what I mean, who would have guessed that guy sucks
you know, uh, you know, and then he takes the
puss from the milk that he's pasteurizing and creates vaccines
out of I mean, that is just that's awesome, you know.
And the compulsory vaccination concept here, I think is kind
of the key.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: You can't sell transhumanism or what became mrina vaccines, which
would be leading into transhumanism via vaccines without this concept
in play, right.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, I mean it's it's the whole It gets
you into people's bodies. Like, there's no other reasonable way
to open the door into people's bodies than saying, hey, uh,
a germ's gonna make you sick next week. You know,
that's not rationally the way health and wellness works, right,
like it was well born out by Andre Besham back
in the late eighteen hundreds. Like this whole terrain theory
thing makes makes perfect sense. We can go go down
all those avenues. But the only I think the only
rational way to get people to hand over their their
self agency and say no, yeah, i'll take that jab,
I'll take whatever hemmy Middleton are in that I'd love that,
thank you, is to make them afraid of whatever invisible
pathogen is out there hunting them down, but only if
they're in groups of you know, six or more, and
if they're closer than two feet apart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a badass name this guy, Dude, nineteen sixty five, Jenny,
Let's go, Let's go.
Speaker 1: That is probably the winning name. I love it. Yeah,
Toxing overload.
Speaker 2: Toxing overload is definitely a major part of both the
virus in the vaccine. I think that's an important expec
to mention here. You know, when you have what you
mentioned heavy metals, they're not you know, I talked to
my wife about this. I'm like, they're not gonna find
some smoking gun on vaccinations causing autism because it's the
heavy metals mixed with the technology EMF frequencies, all the
different bombardments we have that are interacting and obviously overstimulation
from screens, and this is all causing I believe autism.
So you're not gonna find like it's it's it's it's
a mixture of things you know that you're not gonna
be able to trace to like a chemical.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's the environment, right, It's the culmination of
all the different toxins in the environment from all the jabs,
which I think the vaccine schedule started out at like
three and now it's I think it was around seventy
two prior to than repealing. I think that we're down
to like forty different doses of jabs now, so we'll
see if there's a downtick in autism. But we're also
introducing all these other environmental toxins day by day, five, G, six, G,
all these things that are rolling out over time. There's
a book by Tom Cowen that really, it very well
discusses a lot of these so called viral outbreaks that
have happened over the last I don't know what one
hundred and fifty two hundred years, things like the Spanish
flu that just so happened to coincide with them putting
radio towers up all over the fucking world. How strange
is that people's bodies are flooded with the MF suddenly
they all get sick.
Speaker 2: It must be a coincidence, though, right And dude, tomcat, dude,
you got a point man you're talking about You know,
the Ham radio goes all the way back to World
War One, dude, and so this could this could have
already been a.
Speaker 1: Thing all the way back then. So when we're talking
about the Flexton Report and we're.
Speaker 2: Talking about pre planned Nazi regime, pre Nazi regime kind
of planning here, I think that this has been a
long time coming. And you know, people talk about how
ahead everything is, It's like, who knows, dude, it really
could be way farther ahead than we think, because they
must have had some concept to what they were doing
with frequency technology all the way back in the early
nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's me. They were doing so much with frequency
healing before then. I mean you talked about the bells,
the organs, Yeah, true instrument tuning, like the change between
what was it four forty that used to be concert
a or do excuse me, four thirty two that used
to be concert A or C or whatever the hell.
I don't know anything about music, and now it's uh
four thirty two, right, that's the yeah, whatever that is.
And so all of these frequency shifts that we've seen
happen over time in concert with antibiotics being in literally
fucking everything. We treat every illness with antibiotics, and so
your internal environment. You want to talk about terrain theory,
your internal environment is completely sterile. All these symbiotic microbes
that should be living and doing their thing inside of
you are just dead now, Like an antibiotic kills all
the life inside of you. It makes you a dead
person too, like you end up being this hollow shell
of a human being. And I think I think the
purpose of that is multifaceted, and I think one of
the big things that that drives towards is, you know,
we've seen such a downturn in the virility of mankind
over the last like sixty years. This is one of
the things I talk about on Tuesdays a lot, like
people aren't fucking anymore. And it sounds creepy to say
about kids aren't fucking anymore. They're not going out and
you know, they'd rather stay home on TikTok or on
their Xbox. And it's like, Okay, it's probably great that
we're not experiencing a mass up turning teem pregnancy, happy,
happy happy, But what does that represent on a grander scale?
People aren't engaging with people. Why aren't people engaging with people?
Because they just want to sterile sad fucking life. They're
steril inside, they're steril on the outside and it produces
this terrifying, bland beaiese reality that we're starting to see
play out, I think all across society at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the point in I think in nineteen eighty four,
if I'm not mistaken, or it was HG. Wells or no,
I think it was George Orwell's nineteen eighty four, Yeah,
George or where he talked about being a sexual and
how that was kind of the whole deal was we
want people to pretty much be a sexual and by
doing that gives over to insemination, artificial insemination and things
like that. Right where then you've got the pig getting
you know, grown inside of the artificial fetus that was
going on recently, Right, So you start to get this
kind of aspect of what we were talking about the beginning.
Now we're back to cloning, right, so where it's like, oh,
you're able to like just put your certain genes and
then get rid of this one so they don't have autism,
and get rid of this one and then put it
in this body, and then now you can have your
own little clone baby essentially design designer baby and clone babies.
Speaker 1: What's the difference, you.
Speaker 4: Know, essentially the same thing. Yeah, and so many of
these people are so interested in having this this visually
perfect lifestyle. We're not interested in the messy stuff that
produces that, you know, happy lifestyle. You know, wife, husband,
two and a half, kids, all the bullshit, right, So
much better to not worry about all the messy stuff.
I mean, if you read you talked about nineteen eighty four,
it's perfectly born out in that where like Winston, the
main character, he hates having sex with his wife, Like
there's a visceral scene in the book where it talks
about them being intimate together is like this gross, disgusting,
happy chore that they have to engage in on a
weekly basis. It's it's disgusting, but that's kind of the
direction this is headed. And so instead of that, it's
like this whole I hate, I hate to harken back
to like biblical concept, but like it's this whole biblical
concept of like if a man vacates the house, right
from a spiritual perspective, something else is going to come
and take its place. And so the thing that's coming
to take that place is all of these these these vaccines,
things like crisper where don't worry about having a kid.
We'll give you a perfectly genetically modified child with superpowers
that we grow in a test tube. Forget all the
human bullshit.
Speaker 2: And do you want to know one of the social
experts the day conducted recently so that they could see, like, oh,
let's test the you know, lick my finger and test
the air.
Speaker 1: You know, where's the wind blowing? Have we accessed or
crossed the threshold of no return yet?
Speaker 2: And I think that the main experiment of that was
the online social media craze about like a bear or
a stranger.
Speaker 1: In the woods. Remember that?
Speaker 4: No, what was that?
Speaker 2: So there was this thing that was like would you pick? Okay,
so if you're walking in the woods and you're a female,
would you.
Speaker 1: Rather run into a grizzly bear or would you.
Speaker 2: Rather run into a guy? And not like most of
the women chose grizzly bear. You know what I'm saying,
Most of the women would rather run into a bear
because of what they've been programmed to look at men
as throughout this time of you know, of programming.
Speaker 1: This is what we're talking about here.
Speaker 2: And I think that that is a good testing of
like where are we and I think that was done
for this exact what we're talking about.
Speaker 4: That makes total sense. I was not. That's so fucking creepy, yeah,
I mean, why would you rather run into a grizzly
bit we've painted? And that's again, like you look at
this social concept of the thing that builds healthy societies, right,
you have to start with your your smallest unit, right,
which is the individual. And that's fine, but the individual
has to build that into something bigger, and that's a family.
If you want to control people, we've got to start
breaking society down. Summer, We've got we've got pretty good
handle on how to fuck with individuals, right, everybody has
a phone, it's pretty easy. But on mass we've got
to find some way to break into these nuclear families.
And what a great way to do that, right is
make the sex is either afraid or angry at one another.
Like you see all these women that are afraid of men,
and you also see all these in cels out there
who are like, I don't want to have anything to do.
Speaker 1: You know, I hate women.
Speaker 2: You got the Andrew Tate male feminists, right, You've got
male feminists out there, that's what I call them, who
are just like, yeah, it's the same thing. It's the
false dichotomy of they do the same thing with races,
you know what I mean, like the white man, oh,
the black man. You know, it's the same thing, dude.
And so it is a distrust of each other. Distrust
of your neighbor keeps you from being communal and keeps
you from having real connection and obviously being able to
rise up against any tyranny when you're all discombobulated and
can't even connect with each other.
Speaker 1: You know, why don't you.
Speaker 4: Even think at that point you know your neighbors?
Speaker 1: Do you know your neighbors? Let's do it. Let's go.
Speaker 2: I don't know mine why I'm a neighborly guy, dude.
Speaker 1: My last neighbors I was friends with because they.
Speaker 2: Were like my My last neighbors I was friends with
because they were like closer to my age, right, and
they move out, next neighbors come in.
Speaker 1: You know, they got a couple of kids, you know,
a little bit older than me.
Speaker 2: But you know whatever, right, just can't can't get can't
cross the threshold. It's so weird, man, It's like you
just can't and I try, you know what I mean,
Like you because I feel like, really the answer here.
But dude, we're at such a place that even me,
like I'm outgoing, I'm nice, and I understand all these concepts,
and I still can't cross that threshold. So I can't
imagine how everybody else is doing out there.
Speaker 3: How about you, John, know, the guy across the street
and not the people next door?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is that? You know?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like you're practically on my lawn, dude,
what's your name? You know?
Speaker 4: That is so strange.
Speaker 2: Yeah, first time I met my neighbor, he started talking
about how he used to be a cop, and he
was like, a dirty cop, that's so cocaine up in Milwaukee.
And I was like, and so check me out, dude,
this is the most fucked up thing about it is.
I think he was testing my character with that story
about him. Yeah, because because then my reaction was like excited,
because I'm thinking, like, oh, I knew there's fucking all
this dirty cop fucking I'm thinking Iran Contra, like I'm
thinking all this stuff, and he's thinking I'm like excited
about the cocaine or something, and I'm like, oh, like
you got me all wrong, bro. But I think he decided,
like who I was off that conversation about him being
a dirty cop, which is like the craziest way to
gauge my character is by telling me about how fucked up.
Speaker 1: You were anyway.
Speaker 2: So so we haven't really been able to cross that
threshold of talking very much, so whatever, but I thought
that was worthy of it telling that's amazing.
Speaker 4: I'm curious do you ever feel because my boss is
a super outgoing guy, I'm an asshole, I'm not outgoing
all the time, But do you ever feel I talked
to him about it regularly. Do you ever feel predatory
when you try to engage with new people? Because that's
his problem, like super outgoing, super friendly guy. But he's like,
I don't want to make them feel uncomfortable or like
I'm you know, attacking them, or you know, predatory in
some way, like when we're introducing new people at work,
because that's what somebody being friendly, Like that meeting the
cop next door, that's what that's scene as now, like
you want to go introduce yourself to bro that just
moved in next door, They like, why the fuck are
you talking to me? I want to go and FID
and play my video game.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're intruding on their space just by being like
humans with each other. Uh yeah, man, No, And it's
weird because I mean, dude, I work in a machine shop, right,
so I'm working with people that just kind of drone
through life. Their biggest passion is like drinking beer home
or maybe working on their car, you know what I'm saying,
maybe working right in their motorcycle.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: So there's not much deep conversations you have, and anytime
I bring up anything of like substance, it's like, dude,
you just see the fuck there's nobody home, dude, right.
Speaker 1: Nobody's home.
Speaker 2: Like, these guys are intelligent, they know what they're doing,
they know how to do some crazy shit, they know
how to like I mean, we do some intricate work, right,
but these guys are not there, bro Like when it
comes to any deeper thought pass like I don't even
know mechanical compensation.
Speaker 1: Like that's it, dude. It's crazy. It's crazy to watch
just people.
Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy to be, uh, feel like so
ostracized from the world because I've just I'm in like
the wrong field, dude. You know, I'm like kind of
an intellectual. I like think I try to talk to
people about anything, dude, and it's just like, man, I'm
just gonna stand here and uh yeah, just write my
notes about my stuff.
Speaker 1: I like, yeah, Well, these guys.
Speaker 2: Look at me like I'm the crazy guy, right because
I'm taking notes on shit and whatever.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's right.
Speaker 4: What's tough because society has become so specialized in so
many areas, and people who become pigeonholed by like personality
trade or physical trade, and so you wind up with like,
if you have many different interests, you're an intelligent guy,
which you're also good at your hands, right, which I
assume qualifies for you if you work in a machine shop.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: The kind of people who are gonna work in the
machine shop, typically because of the personality traits that have
kind of been forced on that particular profession, are going
to whether they're intellectual or not, reject an outsider because
they appear to be intellectual. It doesn't matter if they're
intellectual as well. Right, you're the other at this point.
Thus you're a threat to the status quo. And that's
what we've created, this society of just like groups of
one right, because we isolate people you head off, you
go off to college, you live in a dorm room alone. Right,
if you were lucky enough to have a nuclear family, great,
we just isolated you in a dorm room in a
school where you know nobody, right, no community. Now you're
a community of one. Anything outside of you is now other.
You're going to meet one or two people that you
connect with, but that's gonna be it. You're probably not
going to have a group of people outside of that.
And so what it does, I think, and this is
me extrapolating and talking directly out of my ass, but
what it does is I think creates this this concept
where like anyone and everyone is other at a certain point.
It's a great way to break down society to where
people are so much easier to influence because they don't
appear to have any level of community. And that makes
it that much harder once you go out into the
professional world or whatever it happens to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that competing reality aspect I think is a
big part of that. Right, Like you can have every
if everybody's in their own world, then you're in your
own reality by definition, right, and so therefore everybody has
competing realities and so nobody can see eye to eye
if if my world views completely different from yours.
Speaker 1: Like we talked about the beginning with the you know
that situation, the devas.
Speaker 2: Uh you know, you know, uh, you know, it's one
of those things where it's like, well, yeah, I can't
connect with you on any level at all, so you're
completely in two different worlds. And that's when I come
off to then, you know, to these guys, right, and
it's it's like you know, and maybe and a lot
of them come off like that with each other and
they're pretty much in the same world. So like that's
how fractalized it is if you really break it down,
you know, because I work with a guy like one
of them is a pastor.
Speaker 1: The other ones like, you know, he's.
Speaker 2: Got like three kids, they all play sports, and they're
all like, you know, a league sports people.
Speaker 1: So they're just like two different worlds.
Speaker 2: Like, you know, one of them jokes about like completely
not godly shit. The other guy's like a pastor. It's
just funny to watch because everybody's.
Speaker 1: In their own world.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now we're in a place where before they
could connect on some levels. But now since COVID especially,
We've been incentivized not to connect on any level with
anybody because disagreements equal warm that's it, you know, Like
you're my enemy now, you know, I don't agree with
that thought process. You now are the devil, you know,
And that's like everybody with anything, and I hate I
can't stand that shit, you know.
Speaker 1: That's why I talk to everybody.
Speaker 2: I'll talk to gnostics, I'll talk to new age people,
I'll talk to Christians.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I myself, I'm you know, buried into my own little
like idea is I guess. But because I understand that
I've been kind of programmed into that, I try to
reach out and kind of open that up. And I
think everybody should do that a little bit more with
some understanding in their heart.
Speaker 4: Humility is an important part of that too. But I mean,
you're exactly right. We've reached all of the narratives teach
us disagreement equals war.
Speaker 1: Yeah, war is peace, dude? War is peace?
Speaker 4: Bro?
Speaker 1: Like, what do we talk about peace through strength? Many?
What we do? Brother?
Speaker 2: I mean, this is like one hundred percent sith level,
like like we're in like this is crazy, Like like
you know, I always I look at Trump as like
a mixture of like Darth Sidious and meyer Lansky. Meyer
Lansky is like that that uh you know, that crazy
Jewish mobster that like, you know, helped galvanize the Italian
mob and knew what they became, you know, mixed with uh,
you know, the sith and we and.
Speaker 1: We shall have peace of right, And that's what he's doing.
Speaker 2: He's like, We're gonna go kill everybody and we shall
have peace, right. And it's kind of that idea coming
out right, And it's very interesting because whenever you watch
all these TV shows that come out, it's like direct
propaganda lines of things that he's posting, Like he'll post
things about war is peace. And then the Peacemakers, like
the main show on HBO, and Peacemaker is about a
superhero who beats the shit out of everybody to get
to obtain justice.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of different than like Batman in the
sense of like he'll kill people, you know or whatever.
It's this dark kind of idea of peace and it's
very interesting. And then he'll post things about like the
bees and the bee keeper was out right, and so
it's just odd. It's like what is this you know? Yeah,
and the bees that are part of a hive, right,
and he's creating the hive mind with the tech bros.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: And he's such a polarizing figure too, like he just
pushes people deeper into whatever those narratives are they already believe, like, yeah,
he's a perfect figure for that, perfect that absolutely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's insane, you know, the chaos magician, Like, uh,
Marino Brahmovic says, he's the Uh did you see that?
Speaker 4: I feel like I've heard maybe you mentioned that before. Yeah,
I feel like I've heard that before.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: She literally is on videos. She's in a car. You know,
she's got her driver, she's talking to her driver. You know,
she just has to get it. I don't know, I
don't get it. I'm just gonna make up my own
narrative here. She's she's in the car, right, and somebody's
taking a video over in the car and she's talking
about Trump, right, and she's like, you know, he's I'm
gonna play it because it's like, okay, is this the
driver talking to her? And she's like she just can't
help but talk about this, like what's going on here?
He's like listen, I have to tell you about Trump
right now. He's the chaos magician.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like, what, all right, hold.
Speaker 4: On, clearly planted. I would yeah, I would imagine.
Speaker 1: It's hilarious.
Speaker 4: That's insane.
Speaker 1: Here, let me see here if I can find it.
She's like in the car. Let's see here. There it is,
there is. Let's go all right, but let's get a
little sound on that.
Speaker 7: He is the best thing happened ever to us.
Speaker 1: Look, she's just talking to the driver. She's looking right
at where the driverway would be.
Speaker 7: Hell because she believed, not her, but the entire population
of this norded magician that he is the magician of
the highest.
Speaker 2: Why, dude like this, Guys like this bitch is crazy.
Speaker 7: That he's there in his irrational mind to create confusion
in order that the human.
Speaker 1: Being chaos and then create order.
Speaker 2: Talked about and by the way, people like to talk about,
oh Trump dresses Jesus, he dreads is Jesus anointing somebody? No,
he dresses the magician tarot card.
Speaker 1: That's what that was. Dude.
Speaker 7: You know it's also stupid, so stupid.
Speaker 2: To think about this is not so stupid to think
about this and talked about driver about this is it?
Speaker 4: That guy looks so checked out?
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, yeah, she does this all day every day, dude.
She'll just randomly just be talking about last night with
Lady Gaga, we took the blood out of a pig
and we created her new album. You know, like, who knows, dude.
She just talks about shit all the time. Could you
imagine her driver's life, bro, that'd be awesome.
Speaker 1: What the fucking life that guy has?
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do with that. Yeah, she
just she just rambles at him all day long about
could you imagine?
Speaker 1: They'd be fucking crazy?
Speaker 2: So, you know, I mean this lady, you know, plugged
it with the Rothschilds. We got the fucking Lucifer painting
behind them, behind them here? Does he even have a dick?
Speaker 1: He doesn't.
Speaker 4: I don't see one. It looks it looks kindled nickless man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that sucks. And then what else we got here?
We got a little spirit cooking blood on the wall.
Crazy shit. She's in two.
Speaker 2: Very very crazy woman. Uh, let's go ahead and look
at Trump as Jesus while we're.
Speaker 1: On it, might as well. But it's really a magician
you know here we go, yeah, of yourself. Well, it
wasn't a picture, it was me. I did look at that,
look at that.
Speaker 2: He doesn't even know how to answer this because he
wants to, he doesn't know how to say it. He's like, well,
it wasn't a picture of Jesus.
Speaker 1: Well I didn't post.
Speaker 4: It, and I thought it was me as a doctor.
Speaker 1: A doctor and magicians.
Speaker 2: Magicians used to be the doctors, you know that, right,
Like magicians back in the day were the doctors. So
he knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1: He's so good, dude, he really is good at what
he does. Bro.
Speaker 2: He is a master at the Kabbala, which, by the way,
he in his book talked about his Kabbala teacher like
literally reference to Kabbala teacher in in a book he wrote.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, he's deep into the had to do.
Speaker 2: With the Red Cross as a Red Cross worker there,
which we support, and only the fake news could come
up with that one, so.
Speaker 1: I only the fake anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he's dresses the magician and for some reason
they chose to put these weird like they changed that
to what that is, which is like, yeah, some arconic
fucking spirits.
Speaker 1: I don't know what else to call that.
Speaker 2: Anyway, good Times got the chaos magician, And that's what
I'm saying, dude, Like this.
Speaker 1: Guy is dart Citious, you know, insane damn.
Speaker 4: And he's another one like he was in that oh gosh,
you put that video out, Kanye, that uh that famous video.
Everybody was talking about Trump being cloned too. He was
one of the like wax figures in that bed. Yeah,
what is what is that?
Speaker 1: What is that scene where?
Speaker 2: Oh man, dude, I'm sorry I keep segueing, there's something
such a nerd, but I just.
Speaker 1: Keep thinking of that.
Speaker 2: I keep thinking of that scene where like after dart Citius,
he like fights with uh with uh uh master Window
and he's fighting with Samuel Jackson and he and he's
all fucked up and he's got the hood on and
he's like, I have been injured, you know, he's like it,
but they won't stop.
Speaker 1: They won't stop us.
Speaker 2: And it's like exactly what he did, dude, He like
took the office, you know, he took presidency after getting
shot in the ear.
Speaker 1: Like it is this weird connection.
Speaker 2: That I'm like seeing with like, yeah, I don't know,
I'm just such a nerd Palpatine.
Speaker 1: Let me see if I can find a little clip
to that while.
Speaker 4: We talk about the parallels between reality and Star Wars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like now he's saying, it's like you get
in the whole Last President narrative.
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, yeah it does. It's come back attached
to a tech machine with Palenteer. That might happen, that
might be a reality.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yeah, speaking as Chancellor. I think he was
speaking as the Chancellor at this time. Let me find
this this yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, here it is.
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, let's go. Can I play this? Helala?
This is great. I'm so excited for this. All right,
let's go.
Speaker 2: I've been looking for a reason to play a little
Palpatine on the show.
Speaker 1: Let's go. Dude, Hell yeah, look at this, dude.
Speaker 2: It looks like they're in the fucking I mean that's
like I don't even know, dude, Like I look at
that and I think of the matrix.
Speaker 4: All right, it looks like those pods in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, has beaten for Let's go. I want to get
to the part where he's like, I've been into it.
Speaker 1: That's him, dude, man, dude, she was she was a dime.
WHU wasn't she? She was her? And I don't know
they all are, dude.
Speaker 2: Didn't you see that thing where they like showed all
the actors and they're like and they're like, uh, every
one of them they had like a Jewish star under it,
or that you know star David under it Israeli flag.
It's like, damn, yeah, it makes sense, man. You know
they hire their own you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that in that Alti Child's video were two
of the things that sucked me up for a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, just to tie all this together, what else is
in Star Wars the Clones?
Speaker 4: Dude?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So you have like all this crazy shit, you know,
I mean, this is uh you know, and when you
look at it, it's got a lot of like Nazi
tinges to it. And you look at today and it's like,
we are building that. That is what I think we're building, dude,
And it's getting rid of the force, the Jedi force energy,
any positive kind of like frequency energy, the terrain kind
of concept, and it's going right into the dark side, dude.
Straight material its materiality is what they're leaning into of,
Like you know, yeah, that kind of shit anyway, I
get weird with the symbology of that stuff.
Speaker 1: I enjoy it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it does seem very similar to that concept of
killing the force between people, like killing their connection between people.
Speaker 2: Well, George Lucas came out of Laurel Canyon, and Laurel
Canyon is like if you've ever read straighted scenes in
Laurel Canyon, that's the whole idea that like, uh, Mama's
Papa's the doors. You know him, Spielberg write, Spielberg's another one.
All these guys came out of Laurel Canyon, and they
all seem to push narratives, whether it be through Hollywood,
through the music scene, and they're doing it for intelligence groups,
which ultimately are these mystery school cults that are intelligence groups,
which if you want to know why that is, check
out the Mystery Babylon series. I'll be doing uh starting Sunday.
Speaker 4: That's going to be excell I just started listening to
the og Mystery Babylon with Bill Cooper. It's been phenomenal.
So good, dude, so good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that what I'm talking about though,
gets into like I mean, we're talking about like the
end of mystery Babylons. So you guys got a while
to explain that. But no, dude, all the mystery cults
just throughout time evolved and now it's like the Builderberg,
the CIA, the Six the Mesade, like these are all
ran by you know, the mystery cults at the highest levels.
Speaker 4: This is one of those areas where and I'm curious,
is to your take on this? So many of the
claims folks make in conspiracy world seem borderline unfalsifiable, Like
how are you going to prove or not prove that
some of these things are happening other than with circumstantial evidence?
So like what's what's your take on whether it be
clones or or you know, German terrain theory or or
the mystery schools running everything, Like what do you think
counts is incontrovertible proof that this is going on? Because
I mean, obviously I'm part of the team that thinks, yeah,
you're exactly correct, But like can I can I you know,
can I stick my I'm not going to stick my
life on it tomorrow. Like it's one of those areas
where I'm always curious, like what's the proof in the pudding.
What do you think is the thing that you point
back to and you say, yeah, this is why, this
is why, this is the thing that tells me why.
Speaker 2: Well, we have clone aid, right, we have the dire
wolf that got brought back to life based off just
a little strand of DNA found inside of like a
bone or something. So we have definitely and all these
are connected to a man named Epstein who definitely, you know,
lived and he definitely was involved with a lot of
high end people and apparently through his emails, was involved
with this exactly stuff. Right, And then you have eyewitness
testimony from people who are saying, I woke up on
a table and my baby was taken out of me,
you know. And you have people like Peter Nigar saying,
I'll give you five hundred bucks you let me inciminate
you with my semen, and I'm gonna take the fetus
out so I could take the stem cells and inject
it back into myself. And then you know that Peter
Teel takes young people's blood and likes to inject in
himself for longevity. And you start adding all this stuff
together and you go, well, maybe cloning is a goal
if not real yet, right, And you go, well, they're
definitely working towards it, you know what I'm saying, And
you could extrapolate to like yeah, I mean you could
go to the train way too. I recommend you listen
to Bill Cooper's Germ Verse terrain Theory if you go
to if you go to HoTT dot com, you'll probably
have to go to the Internet archive, and inside of
that you'll get all like thousands I think it's over
one thousand. It's like thirteen hundred radio episodes of Bill Cooper, right,
and everything he ever did, even the reruns, and inside
of there you'll find germ verse terrain theory. It's a
great episode where I was exposed to this concept, and
I think in there you're gonna find the most proof
of how they've taken the germ theory and completely the
train theory and completely taking it away.
Speaker 4: Oh and A one hundred percent couldn't agree more with that,
Like after looking into like the Cokes and Rivers postulates
and all that stuff that went on with like the
Flexioner report, Like I think it's a it's a slam dunk.
It's just one of those things where talking to regular
people I always have difficulty. My goal is always to
be able to say this is true and here's why.
And I find it easier with the whole germ versus
terrain theory debate. But when it comes to the mystery
schools controlling the world, that's where I have a more
difficult time going back and saying this is the reason why. Like, sure,
we can talk about clones all day and like you know,
organic robotoids and all of those things.
Speaker 2: I can talk mystery schools being I can talk mystery
schools all day though. That's the thing, like I could
probably talk longer about the mystery schools being involved with
everything before I could talk about that stuff for longer,
you know what I'm saying. So it's interesting to me
that you have a harder time with that one because
that's the one I feel like I have the most
proof of because you have to understand what proof is
when it comes to this, and it is proof is connections.
Speaker 1: That's about all you got.
Speaker 2: You got connections, and you have goals, and you have
does the connections mirror the goals? So Cecil Rhodes connected
to the Rockefellers, right connected to.
Speaker 1: The ross Childs.
Speaker 2: Oh, they had this Zionist movement that came out of that. Oh,
and if Rockefellers funded eugenics with the Nazis and in America, oh,
you know. And you start making these connections and the
goals are all the same, and they start mirroring each other,
and you go, oh, and then you know about the
colors and the symbology. If you read Freemasonry and like
Manly P. Hall, literally his whole book that I want
to say, is like eight hundred pages long. Eighty percent
of the whole book is literally symbols, colors, numbers, signs,
all the ways that you would speak without speaking. And
so when you look at like the paramedic van passed
by next time and you see the staff with the
snakes wrapped around it, you wonder, well, where the fuck
did that come from?
Speaker 1: Who's heiroditis? Where is he? You know?
Speaker 2: And it's like this goes all the way back to
Greek mythol mystery school stuff.
Speaker 1: Then it starts to make sense.
Speaker 2: Why is it that whenever you get a diploma you
have to wear like some like Saturnalian like row with
a black cap, you know, just like on Saturday. So
you start to add all this stuff up. What is
the university? Why does it have the word universe in it?
What is the universe?
Speaker 1: Where did it come from? Who had the first university? Plato?
Speaker 2: Oh, he was initiated in the Mystery Schools, in the
Pyramid in the King's Chamber. Dude, all this stuff starts
to make sense whenever you start adding it and then
bringing it into modern day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to put it.
Speaker 3: In the context of like their worldview, right, because it's like,
if you look at like a normy's worldview, that doesn't
connect with any of that, and it's not designed too,
because they live in a completely different world. It's like,
you know, I think the Altain and Child's video kind
of describes that really well, Like the world that like
all of these elites are living in. It's not yours, right,
It's not like the front that they've put on, right,
it's not material and you have to like somehow bridge
that gap because if you try to put any of
this in the context of the material worldview, it falls
fat on its face because it's like those two don't
mesh together. Yeah, right, that's a front to like hide
all of.
Speaker 2: This, And dude, it brings me back to Plato again,
Plato's cave. Plato's cave is all about this. The shadows
on the cave, dude, that is your echo chamber, your
algorithm online, that puts you into this warring reality with
other people. We're all inside of our own little cave, dude.
We all got a little fire behind us and a puppeteer.
You're making little fucking shadows on the wall, and we're going,
that's reality.
Speaker 1: Dude, that's my reality.
Speaker 2: And really it's being fucked with by these people, right,
And they're doing different things, different strokes for different folks,
But at the same time, we're being manufactured and programmed
into what we think reality is.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So I think that's what it goes back to. And
they found a way to digitize these concepts and involve
us in it and addict us to it. M you
think it's a it's a mistake that our dopamine receptors
get fucking blapped every time we get on you know,
a screen or whatever. Come on, man, they know that
this would do that. This isn't like a innocent by
product of technology.
Speaker 1: This is the point of it.
Speaker 4: Right, right, That makes so much sense. Yeah, I guess it's.
Speaker 1: Going Schitzo tonight, baby, I love it. Let's go for me.
Speaker 4: The reason I find the terrain theory conversation easier, the
clone concept conversation easier, is because I find it simpler
to say, okay, we have you know, to the to
the average person, right to Joe six Pack down the street,
I can say, okay, we have Dolly back in the nineties,
right that the sheaf that was cloned. And then we
move into like clone ate, and then we move into
all these robots that are out there, like Atlas, which
is like Boston Dynamics, a little dog that runs around
you got like it was an optimists that Tesla's producing.
And then you move into like the whole organic robatoid conversation,
where you know, they're they're obvious projects that existed to
produce these like pseudo humanoid robots with just human personality traits,
and we're very clearly not far from that and admitted
reality by the mainstream, right, So like it's it's it's
a reasonable extrapolation to go from there to maybe Mitch
McConnell's actually a clone, or he's just I quite frankly
think he's just retarded and old. But that's a different discussion,
whereas with the mystery school discussions I'm still like reasonably
new to. But with a normal person, I find it's
so much more difficult because they're so many people base
all their entire reality on the the the alleged science
or the alleged proof that's handed to them right now.
And I think we can probably all agree it's not
that right. It's not science, it's not proof. So much
of it it's propaganda that's headed to them. But you
can look within that internal narrative and say, here's where
it breaks down, and here's where it relates to the
actual nature of reality. We can separate the wheat from
the chaff and say here's what you keep, here's what
you throw away, and here's where they need in the
middle to create the reality you actually live in. For me,
and maybe I'm just retarded, the mystery School game is
so perhaps so deep, and maybe I'm so new to it,
and maybe it's so intricate that it's just more difficult
to do that. I mean, what do you think the
Maybe there's not a smoking gun, but what do you
think is it? Is it the connections that you point
back to to say, hey, this here's the web that
the spider wove, and that's proof that the spider exists,
you know.
Speaker 2: Okay, So the best way I can put this is
mystery schools at the basis of it. As you rise
through the through the degrees, you get words. A word
is spoken in your ear, and each word means the
same thing, is the last word, okay. And then as
you keep going up. So what it ultimately teaches you
is deception. It teaches you how to create words that
have powers within them that then obviously create something in
the subconscious mind of other people.
Speaker 1: They don't really know this the whole time, but they
learn it as they go that.
Speaker 2: Oh, the purpose of everything I've done so far is
to learn how to manipulate reality with words, phrases, symbols,
and signs and colors, because all those things have frequencies
attached to them which access you are subconscious. And so
what they do is they learn is they go through
the ranks of the mystery schools on how to manipulate
other people's reality.
Speaker 1: It's essentially magic, right.
Speaker 2: And then what happens is they go out and they
create their own group scientology Mormons, you know, name one,
And so that is how this is. That's why it's
like a hydras system. But when you go and look,
it's like all the same ideology. It's just been rebranded.
There's different words attached to it. You, athology, the Temple
of Set, Satanism, It's all the same thing. It's just
been kind of rebranded a little bit.
Speaker 1: And it's all for the.
Speaker 2: Purpose of deceiving people's reality into I guess their ideology,
which ultimately leads into like a Luciferian doctrine of God
or a man becomes God.
Speaker 1: That's the best way I could break it down.
Speaker 2: And if it always leads towards that way, again, you
have to like, how does the tree bears fruits?
Speaker 1: Right? So you have to always look at the fruits?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: And so when I read freemasonry and everything, I don't
automatically go, yep, this is written by Freemason. That's it,
Like I can't trust anything, Like, of course I'm going
to read it and understand, you know, it's the fruit
that it bears. Is that leading me towards a Luciferian
place of understanding or is that like helping me understand
my reality more at this moment? You know, because not
everything is evil and lies. It's your own discernment you
have to rely on. So anyway, Yeah, that's kind of
my spiel on the Mystery Schools and how it permeates
that tracks. It's like Pythagoras, dude, like we when you
look at math or science and everything, it's based off
the Mystery Schools. That's where we got all of it from. Pythagoras.
Was he was actually initiated in the King's Chamber. I
think Plato was too, But Pythagoras definitely learned from the
h like all of his stuff from the Egyptians and
brought it to Greece, and that's where they got their
idea of geometry and everything else. But what they don't
know a lot of people don't know is there.
Speaker 1: Was a cult to Pythagoras.
Speaker 2: They were able to do math to such a high
level that they could tell the future.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 4: Oh, that's in that's on Isaac Asimov's books. I mean,
I know I've talked about this on our show at nausey.
Are you familiar with him? No?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I've heard the name sorry out there. For
some reason, you're asking John, I'm like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm painfully familiar. Unfortunately, he's tired of hearing about him. Yeah,
but like him and the Foundation trilogy where like they
do math to predict like the future of all mankind,
Like it's the act same concept.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, And so yeah, man, it's very simple, you know,
when you really break it down, like the white and
black checkerboard, it's the false dichotomy that they always operate on.
Speaker 1: Left or right. Somebody in there said, PEPSI your coke? Right,
you know, white or black.
Speaker 2: It's the whole deal of like, you know, are you
a Jew or an anti anti Jew? You know, it's
just constant false dichotomy with no reality in it. And
what I always like to say is the Freemasons say this,
and this is why I like to read their stuff,
because sometimes you can gain a little bit more of
an understandable reality that even could give you better understanding
of biblical teachings. Okay, And this is one example of that.
So mainly p'all says that truth is always crucified between
two contradictions, two thieves of contradiction. Jesus Christ was crucified
between two thieves. Right, I would imagine that the thieves
were contradictory in some way, Right, because it had some
kind of analogy towards this what we're saying here. They
give you one lie, the other lie. They're both contradictions.
Truth is in the middle, like did we go to
the moon?
Speaker 1: Did we not go to the moon. It's probably in
the middle.
Speaker 2: You know, we probably went there with some technology we
don't know about, you know, so there's this weird thing
that goes on where the truth is never on one
side or the other.
Speaker 4: I think that's reasonable. Yeah, that's how they operate.
Speaker 2: I mean, and you can prove this by just looking
deeper into certain narratives that get pushed and then you
find out, wait a minute, it's a little bit of
this and a little bit of that, but it's actually this.
And then the more you see that, the more you
start to realize, like, oh, this is the this is
the playbook, this is how they operate.
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean, that's that completely makes sense. I mean
you see that in the clone narrative, where it's like
it's like either everybody's a clone, no one's a clone.
The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. I assume
the technology is out there and it's it's possible, it's doable.
It very clearly appears to be doable with things like these,
like these brain organoids. They're just like manufacturing small brains
now like the they do, Yeah, you can like control
a robot with them. They just take like stem cells
and grow a little mini at your brain and then
they can control a robot. But then they can do
like they can carry out very simple tasks. You can
train them on AI, so like it would not be
conceptually super difficult to like grow a small brain for
a robot, like you could you could do that and
it could carry out simple tasks. Just like like they
make some that like walk in water, not on water
people in water. They make some that like can do
mazes based on like signals that are sent to them
that need to represent order or disorder, and they learn
from that point. Being though there's always a reality that's
somewhere in the middle, like like terrain theory versus germ theory,
Like there's an element of like there are toxins that
exist in your environment that can make you sick at right,
and that's the germ theory side of things like that
make you feel bad.
Speaker 2: And I guarantee those toxins have some kind of like
let's call it frequency basis to them that can act,
you know, fuck up the train, right. So yeah, there's
as above so below aspect to that. I bet that
would then prove both right in a weird way, you know.
I think, Yeah, you're exactly right, dude. And that's kind
of what how we That's nuance, by the way. I
always bring that word up, but people like hear that
word and then it's kind of a it's one of
those words you just assume, you know, but like that
is what nuance is.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 1: Nuance is like literally understanding that two things can be
true at once, you know, and how do they operate
together in truth? And what is the deception?
Speaker 2: There is what you can extrapolate out of that if
you're in this field, right, And so yeah, I love
doing it, dude.
Speaker 4: It's my favorite thing to do, one hundred percent. And
it's this matter of them presenting all this stuff is
false dichotomies, you know, like this fake choice between one
and the other where it's like no, no, you're you're
manipulating my entire reality. The conspiracy narrative that calms out
and they're like everybody's a clone. All these women have
penises like it's all fake and gay, Like, okay, everybody,
calm down, take a breath. A lot of it is
fake and gay. There are a lot of chicks with
dicks out there. We're all disturbed by that. Nobody wants
to see that being said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the dumerism, definitely, it's it's very apparent. I
try not to because I go deep on some dark shit,
you know, and deep realities that are pretty dark.
Speaker 1: But I try not to be a dumer about it.
I try to.
Speaker 2: I'm a lighthearted guy in general, and I could look
at the darkest shit and then somehow walk away from
it finding I face death like twice legitimately, and so
I feel like that has changed me to a point
where like I literally don't care, Like I just don't
worry about shit, Like I don't know, it's weird, Like
I look at it this way.
Speaker 1: If I would worry about it.
Speaker 2: On my deathbed, like if it would make me like
really freak out and I'm on my deathbed about the croak,
then yeah, I'll worry about it right now. But otherwise,
why would I waste my energy and time on that?
I know, Like searching for knowledge doesn't mean I have
some emotional attachment to the information, you know. I think
hopefully people listening to this and they're into this kind
of stuff, they can maintain that separation as well, because
it's the only healthy way you could be in this
world's crazy town. Crazy town. Shout out to hero hero everybody.
Eugenics is very gay, sure is. You don't have to
read it. Love the show. Smart dust work is unparalleled,
So let's go. You looked at the smart dust stuff.
I've been burying my work, So I hope you guys
go back at the archive and check stuff out because
I've been hammering it. But virus, thank you very much,
Iron lunatic as well. Viruses have never been proven to
be real. It's a lack of nerve energy due to
the physical exhaustion during extreme weather conditions. Poor diet speeds it.
Great info, thank you, you know. And I don't usually
get sick. It's like once a year I get allergies,
and so there is something to that detoxing once a year.
Don't stop it, don't take medicine, let it naturally do
it and you won't be sick as much.
Speaker 4: Well, there's a concept in there that like I don't
know how far you've gone down the terrain theory rabbit hole.
But like viruses are the exozomes. Where do exozomes come from?
They're essentially just like cellular waste that's wrapped up in
a shell to make it less toxic to your body
and then excrete it. And so like you go through
as just part of your natural life cycle, this yearly
detox where you get the flu or the rona or
whatever we've branded it as. And everybody's blamed it on
this this thing because it appears to be contagious, and
I think that's like semi rational. But what we see
is this frequency that people share. And I'm not going
to pretend like I have an answer whether it's like
the legitimate like electromagnetic frequency that's interchanged between people, which
ironically extends about three feet away from the human body,
you know, or if it's these particles that we shed
that are then taken in by other people. But like
we're essentially communicating with other people on the sub atomic level,
this frequency level. And so yeah, it appears to be contagious,
but it's not the same kind of contagion you were
taught existed in school. It's not some fucking you know,
pretend virus that exactly right, Like they've never been proven
to exist, not once that I've been able to find it,
and I've tried to find it, but make my life
so much simpler if they did.
Speaker 1: And that's why I care so much about the neighbor thing.
You know.
Speaker 2: It's like, dude, we're really close to each other, you know,
like my vibe. There's like this vibe thing going on,
and we should like, you know, keep it, keep it,
keep it how it should be, you know what I mean.
Like terrain here, Yeah, good energy, you know what I mean.
Like whatever you want to you know, a new age
bullshit you want to apply to it. But like there
is an aspect to that where it's like, yeah, that's
a reality, dude. Like I could feel the tensions, you know,
like like you know, when he's out there mowing his
grass two times in one day, I feel obligated to
go outside mow the grass, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's like, motherfucker, you know, why are you mowing it
twice one day?
Speaker 6: Dude?
Speaker 1: What do you what purpose is that for? You know?
Speaker 2: It's like but then I you know, I'm like a
person that's in the whole other world, because I'm like,
I don't think you need to sit here and etch
the grass all perfect. You don't let it fucking grow
a little bit, like, let let nature be, you know.
Like he came over he wanted to trim the trees
in the backyard, and I'm out there mowing the grass
and he's like stop me. He's like, hey, you know,
I'm gonna get the trees trimmed or whatever. He's like,
do you wanna do you want to do that?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: And I was like he like kind of said it
like he was implying that, like they would come over
and do it without me paying or something. And I'm like, yeah, man,
I'm good, I'll do it myself, you know. And uh,
it's one of those things where it's like you got
all this time and money, brother, Like I don't you
know what I'm saying, and I'm not gonna fucking waste
it on this ship.
Speaker 1: Like it's not important to me, you know.
Speaker 2: And I don't have a problem with a little bit
of nature growing in my backyard. So by the end
of the day, dude, his ship is just completely just
fucking nothing. There's nothing, dude, everything is just perfect yard
and my and now I just feel like an asshole
and it's like, what is this?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: So again, it's just good to have communication with people
and have an understanding because it's like then you have
weird shit where it's just weird tension, you know, and
you're like, what is this?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: So it makes the environment toxic?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so odd that this even came up, these gripes
about my neighbor today.
Speaker 1: That is literal.
Speaker 4: It happens. Man. Mine are super white trash. They mow
their lawn about once every six months. But yeah, it's
a different kind of tension. That's go white. Gosh, it's good.
Speaker 2: We got the we got the little tykes car out back,
overgrown grass around it, fucking yeah, the whole deal. Dude,
toys all over the place, they got like sun spots
on them, and ship I get it, dude, That's how
I grew up.
Speaker 1: Talk about.
Speaker 4: Dude, that's Americana right there. Why would you want anything
other than that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it wasn't my house, my neighbor's house,
but he was like, so bad, you might as well
be mine.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It was bad.
Speaker 2: I remember I you know, I was living in a
duplex dude. And yeah, dude, my neighbors were so dirty
next door.
Speaker 1: Man, it was bad.
Speaker 2: And we had a duplex, so they had fleas, dude,
and the fleas would travel through the fucking like you know,
the rafters in between the house and fucking come into
our house dude, and so a lot of that stuff
would leak over.
Speaker 1: You know. So don't live in a duplex. It sucks.
Speaker 4: I live in duplex as we speak. It's terrible. It's
it's hell. I can, I can. I can absolutely support
that narrative. It's god awful.
Speaker 1: And my neighbor's answer.
Speaker 4: Those white trash people.
Speaker 1: Oh man, dude, Yeah, it sucks, man, it's like it's
it's so.
Speaker 4: I don't recommend it.
Speaker 2: What a good episode, What a great time. I had
a great time with you guys. Man, you guys come back.
You kick it anytime.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 1: You let everybody know where they can find you.
Speaker 2: Touch me tuesdays if you want to get touched, you
want to laugh, dude, check it out.
Speaker 1: Man. They're pretty funny. I like it.
Speaker 2: I think that you know, you remind me of like
whiskey ginger kind of vibe.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, dude, I don't think Sabatino is
very funny. So you know you got that going for you.
Speaker 4: We'll take it.
Speaker 1: We're funny, you're funny.
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I don't know, miss anything. John, I don't think you
got it all man. Ooh, thanks again, dude. This has
been a blast. Yeah, we've had a ton of fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we'll end it on this.
Speaker 2: Dude, My next door neighbors are New Canadians and there
cooking smells subparts your unit, crazy Andrew. Yeah, you know,
it's better than living by the curry. You know, that's
all I'll say. You know, I dude, my grandparents, My
grandparents live next to like this apartment complex and I
think there might be two white people living in it.
Speaker 1: It is just full. I mean, dude, you drive by,
you're like, boy, that is some smelling right there. You
know what I mean. It's bad.
Speaker 2: Dude, Like you go swim in the pool there and
you get out and you're like, whoa, I smell like curry,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it's like crazy.
Speaker 4: I kind of like it, but when it's so strong
you can't, you can't.
Speaker 1: I don't like it in the air. I don't like
it in the air. I don't. I don't like walking
around and smelling curry. I just don't. Let's what that is.
It makes me mad.
Speaker 4: Actually, Canadians also used to be in the restaurant industry
are term for what would I say, is politically correct.
It was our politically correct term for people of color.
I'll say say it that way. That was what we
would say if a ghetto family walking me, Like, there's
a group of Canadians a table five, watch out, they're
not gonna tip? Like that was that was that nero? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know they get pid living wages there,
you know, I mean, we should get off of the
slave trade. Tip fucking thing we do here and yeah,
you know what I'm saying, like that literally stems from
the slave trade. Is like tipping, you know, and paying
under paying less than a minimum wage. So you make
three dollars an hour instead of like eight or whatever
it is, and then you make your tips.
Speaker 1: That is like that is yeah, I have there's.
Speaker 4: Something too that philosophically. I always liked it because I
made way more than I would did an unskilled job. Yeah,
just from like middle aged karens. You know. But but
how many people have you had?
Speaker 2: How many people have you had come in, spend a
lot of money, have a great time, and then stiff.
Speaker 4: You almost none man?
Speaker 2: Right, that happen a few times, and you start to think, Hm,
my balls are in their hands, you know what I mean.
You're like, oh, my whole life is in their hands.
Like this is different, you know, it's a different thing.
And some people come in knowing that no. Right, I
live near Saint Louis.
Speaker 1: You know, it was a little little getto over there.
Speaker 2: And so you know, I had one lady, dude, she
came in and like, I worked at a restaurant where
I think that they all like word of mouth, told
each other, like all you got to do is go
to this restaurant and just say I don't like it,
and then they'll take it off your bill even though
you ate half of it. So these people would come in, dude,
and this lady. She was like, oh, I don't like
the steak. And I'm like, oh, well, what's wrong with it?
She's like, I just don't like it. I'm like, okay,
well is it overcooked? Undercooked? Like overseason? Is there something
anything I could give? Like anything anything? I just don't
like it?
Speaker 1: Take it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, So then they took it off for Bill dude.
So it's like, you incentivize that behavior, you know what
I'm saying. So I don't know how we got here,
but anyway, so it's like, oh yeah, the tipping is
just terrible because you did. You sometimes get to have
to deal with people that can really fuck up your day, Okay,
And that's all I'm saying. So have some love for
the people out there making tips in their life because
that sucks, you know. Anyway, Hell yeah, did a great time.
Thank you guys for coming on. Check out Veritas Road.
If you guys enjoyed the show, definitely will, like you know, subscribe,
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From Mystery Babylon, thank you.
Speaker 1: You got hilarious. Holy shit, dude, that just sent me laughing.