WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.360 --> 00:00:03.560 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. This is David Patrick Carey 2 00:00:03.560 --> 00:00:06.320 with Church of the Eternal Logos and I am joined 3 00:00:06.679 --> 00:00:11.279 by author, researcher comedian Jay Dyer. How you doing today, brother? 4 00:00:11.839 --> 00:00:13.640 What's up? Man? So glad to be back with you. 5 00:00:13.720 --> 00:00:15.720 And as I was telling you before the show, I 6 00:00:15.800 --> 00:00:18.399 really appreciate you having me on to discuss this because 7 00:00:18.800 --> 00:00:21.519 it's one of my favorite topics. Sam Tripley is the 8 00:00:21.600 --> 00:00:23.960 only other person that's invited me on to talk about it, 9 00:00:24.440 --> 00:00:26.839 So yeah, I love to nerd out about this topic. 10 00:00:26.920 --> 00:00:28.559 So I really appreciate you having me back. 11 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:31.559 Home, horse man. That blows my mind because we were 12 00:00:31.920 --> 00:00:34.359 planning on doing this sometime the end of last year, 13 00:00:34.359 --> 00:00:37.119 but you know, life and everything just keeps getting the way. 14 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:39.679 And I raped out to you after one of your 15 00:00:39.719 --> 00:00:42.560 fourth hours and I was like, dude, and you basically 16 00:00:42.560 --> 00:00:45.200 covered like this topic in brevety brevity. It was like 17 00:00:45.359 --> 00:00:47.119 I think it was like forty some minutes. And I 18 00:00:47.159 --> 00:00:49.159 was like, dude, that was fantastic. That was so much 19 00:00:49.159 --> 00:00:51.960 stuff I had never heard. And You're like, oh, well 20 00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:54.759 we should do a stream on it. I was like, yeah, absolutely, 21 00:00:55.560 --> 00:00:58.840 So I appreciate you and all your work and coming 22 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:01.439 over here and kind of sharing some of your wisdom 23 00:01:01.479 --> 00:01:05.079 with us. So you know, I'm going to be more 24 00:01:05.120 --> 00:01:08.280 of a person asking questions and prying into your knowledge 25 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:11.000 because I tried to do some preliminary research on this topic, 26 00:01:11.519 --> 00:01:13.200 and I was wanting to reach out to you. Maybe 27 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:15.680 there was a particular paper or something to read, or 28 00:01:16.079 --> 00:01:18.799 specific books, but I'm just kind of going through the 29 00:01:18.799 --> 00:01:22.000 Internet and finding blogs and stuff, and some of some 30 00:01:22.079 --> 00:01:23.840 of what you mentioned was in there, but you had 31 00:01:23.840 --> 00:01:26.799 a lot more details. How do you where would you 32 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:29.599 begin and introducing this topic? I mean, do you do 33 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:32.879 you start with like Lawrence of Arabia some of the 34 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:35.640 earlier where do you see this topic? It was sort 35 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:40.439 of intro into it. Maybe from the outset I could 36 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:43.599 recommend what some of the good literature on the topic 37 00:01:43.719 --> 00:01:45.840 is because there's a lot, but a lot of people 38 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:49.239 don't know what that is or where to find it. 39 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:52.400 So some of the books are more recent, some of 40 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:56.799 them are a few decades old. But my entrance into 41 00:01:56.840 --> 00:02:01.200 this subject matter was indirect. It was through watching documentaries 42 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:04.640 back in two thousand and three. I won't say the 43 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:09.199 documentary because it might trigger something, but Jason Burmas did 44 00:02:09.199 --> 00:02:11.879 a well known documentary back then, and that kind of 45 00:02:12.039 --> 00:02:15.960 at first hitped me to Middle Eastern stuff, and you know, 46 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:19.400 I liked history of England and British Empire stuff, so 47 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:23.319 that's maybe my entrance into that subject matter was back then. 48 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:26.560 But I would say even throughout the two thousands, I 49 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:28.400 really didn't know a whole lot about it. And I'm 50 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:31.479 not an expert. I wouldn't say I have like a 51 00:02:31.520 --> 00:02:34.360 PhD level knowledge of it, but I have a pretty 52 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:36.039 good knowledge and I've read a lot of books on it, 53 00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:38.680 so I think I can speak to it. Probably the 54 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:42.960 best introductory book for this subject would be F. William 55 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:46.840 Ingdall's book Lost Hedgemon, because he goes into kind of 56 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:50.680 the layout of the Middle East and the basics of 57 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:55.639 the game plan from the West and from the competitors 58 00:02:55.639 --> 00:02:59.439 to the West, which were different competitors at different times. 59 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:02.599 If you go back to the late eighteen hundreds, it 60 00:03:02.719 --> 00:03:05.439 was it's called the Great Game, and this is Russia 61 00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:11.199 versus the Anglo power, right, so it's the UK right, 62 00:03:11.439 --> 00:03:17.639 what becomes the Atlanticist establishment during the Cold War. Lost 63 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:23.120 Hegemon is a great place to start for understanding the background. Then, 64 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:26.080 I would say for more specifically kind of what we're 65 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:31.599 talking about today. Mark Curtis, who's a Royal Society researcher. 66 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:34.199 He wrote a book called Secret Affairs, and it's a 67 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:36.879 really good five hundred page book. And I want to 68 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:40.080 stress that most of the material that I'm referencing or 69 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:44.080 talking about is not conspiracy material. So you'll notice again 70 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:46.759 Curtis is a He works for the Royal and Sugar 71 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:49.719 National Affairs. Okay, so this is up near the top 72 00:03:49.759 --> 00:03:52.520 of the pyramid in the West, so it's not anything 73 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:57.319 to do with, you know, outlandish theories or whatever. I 74 00:03:57.400 --> 00:04:01.759 try to stick to the academic literature on this topic. 75 00:04:02.439 --> 00:04:04.520 There's another really good book that approaches it, not so 76 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:08.080 much from the UK angle as that book does, but 77 00:04:08.240 --> 00:04:11.879 Robert Dreyfuss's book Devil's Game is the next book I 78 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:17.839 would recommend, and that book approaches the US's alliance with 79 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:23.439 various factions and versions of radical Islam for the last 80 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:26.800 sixty seventy years as part of the Great Game, as 81 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:32.000 part of the Cold War, and other really important texts too. 82 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:37.480 I'll just mention in passing would be probably gals Mounier. 83 00:04:37.800 --> 00:04:41.279 It's m U N I E. R. Black Gold, spies. 84 00:04:42.079 --> 00:04:47.800 He's a French researcher and writer, and this is the 85 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:50.120 last book I covered on the subject, and it was 86 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:53.000 it was also really good, So this might actually be 87 00:04:53.079 --> 00:04:56.240 a better starting point for people who are into just 88 00:04:56.319 --> 00:04:59.920 the history of the British Empire's approach to the Middle East. 89 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:03.879 And then some years back I interviewed the author's gold 90 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:07.680 and Fitzgerald, who wrote the book Invisible Empire, which is 91 00:05:07.720 --> 00:05:11.600 about the history of the British Empire's approach to Afghanistan. 92 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:15.560 So those are some of the starting point texts if 93 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:18.079 you people do find this interesting. And then there's kind 94 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:22.240 of a magnum opus mega work that's very difficult, and 95 00:05:22.279 --> 00:05:26.319 it's Stephen Dorrell's massive It's about a thousand page book 96 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:29.879 history six and this comes at it from a very 97 00:05:29.879 --> 00:05:34.720 critical perspective. There's other texts as well, obviously tragedy and hope. 98 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:38.560 Obviously Anglo American establishment by people would be important as well. 99 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:42.000 And in the Milliner Fabian text by Jowan Ratu has 100 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:45.240 multiple chapters that are very relevant to what we're talking 101 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:48.040 about today. And this can just keep going on and on. 102 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:49.519 I mean, you can get into the history of you know, 103 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:52.959 Ian Fleming's life, and although it doesn't relate necessarily to Islam, 104 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:56.240 it gives you kind of window into you know, British 105 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:59.879 operations and you know their approach to the Great Game, 106 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:05.879 which is unique. It's earlier than the US and for 107 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:09.199 many people who may not be aware, British intelligence is 108 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:13.600 who sets up American intelligence. So you can even go 109 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:16.079 back to early as the Inquiry, which is prior to 110 00:06:16.120 --> 00:06:20.720 the OSS, the first so called intelligence establishment in American 111 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:24.759 nineteen forty two under FDR and all that, and then 112 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:29.199 we get the nineteen forty seven Security Acts which creates 113 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:32.879 the CIA we know of as the CIA. So British 114 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:35.879 intelligence is who came over here and set that up 115 00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:39.480 for us. So it's a pretty wild story, but this 116 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:43.000 is how we kind of get America doing what the 117 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:46.680 British Empire did, as you pointed out, back to the 118 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:49.639 time of T. E. Lawrence. So want a movie introduction 119 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:53.079 to this subject matter? Actually, yes, the Peter O'Toole famous 120 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:58.800 movie where he plays T. E. Lawrence the bisexual, perhaps 121 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:04.000 not even bisexual, perhaps just skittles of the British Empire. 122 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:08.639 But what's fascinating And I'll stop yapping after this because 123 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:13.079 and there's tons more books and documentaries. But one thing 124 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:15.920 that's fascinating is how much of this relates to the 125 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:19.519 establishment of the nation State of Israel, and this plays 126 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:25.920 into the Balfour Declaration. This plays into the establishment of 127 00:07:25.959 --> 00:07:30.639 a Jewish state, which I believe it or not, many 128 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:35.399 of the pro Arabist British spies were very opposed to, 129 00:07:36.279 --> 00:07:38.399 and so there was a faction amongst the British elite 130 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:42.319 Rothchilds and others who favored the nation state of Israel 131 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:45.240 being in the Middle East, and most of the Arabist 132 00:07:45.920 --> 00:07:49.040 British spies actually were opposed to this, and they said 133 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:52.399 it was going to cause all these problems and wars. 134 00:07:52.439 --> 00:07:55.560 It was a powder k It was you know, unfair 135 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:57.800 to the people that were there at the time, and 136 00:07:57.879 --> 00:07:59.839 even that was unfair to Jews who were being put 137 00:07:59.879 --> 00:08:04.959 in this sort of maybe less than desirable location for 138 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:08.480 geostrategic reasons. So they're kind of like a chess a 139 00:08:08.600 --> 00:08:13.000 chess piece basically. So it's huge. It ties into oil. 140 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:14.959 It's a lot of it hass to do with oil 141 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:17.800 and resource war, and that's what a lot of the 142 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:20.759 wars are for is resources well. 143 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:23.800 And so one of the things that I always found 144 00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:27.000 just doing preliminary research, is that, like you said, this 145 00:08:27.079 --> 00:08:31.439 is not a conspiracy, This is just facts that British 146 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:36.519 intelligence has been noted multiple times of encouraging radical Islamic 147 00:08:36.559 --> 00:08:39.799 groups that are that are explicitly like anti West. And 148 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:43.840 when you bring up Israel, you know, the whole narrative 149 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:46.919 is that that's like a Western nation in the Middle East. 150 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:48.440 And this is one of the reasons why there's such 151 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:52.360 a great ally is that they have all this cultural 152 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:54.879 sympathies to us and the you know, expansion of the 153 00:08:54.919 --> 00:09:00.120 same sort of Western project. So why is it, I 154 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:02.960 think we already know the sort of false dialectic and 155 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:07.440 everything like that, But in regards to oil control, the 156 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:11.639 expansion of Israel, how is it that British intelligence when 157 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:16.159 did they begin to really see, you know, facilitating these 158 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:21.440 hobbyists and these radical Islamic groups as a geopolitical and 159 00:09:21.480 --> 00:09:24.639 strategic tool to actually gain power and expand. 160 00:09:25.639 --> 00:09:28.600 Yeah, so if you go back to the period of 161 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:32.960 the British Empire when it was beginning to kind of wane, 162 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:39.879 you see competitors that they wanted to have every possible 163 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:46.200 advantage against. So those competitors were France, Turkey, the Ottomans 164 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:51.960 and Russia. So you basically have these powers involved in 165 00:09:53.080 --> 00:09:56.519 a big game to control this region for multiple reasons. 166 00:09:56.639 --> 00:09:59.080 Resources are a huge part of it. Hence the title 167 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:03.080 of Munye's book, Black Gold Spies. That's the oil which 168 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:05.240 once oil discovered, that kind of becomes one of the 169 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:11.720 main motivators for the British explorers and archaeologists who are 170 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:15.600 the spies. They're not really there to you know, learn 171 00:10:15.679 --> 00:10:17.840 the cultures because they just let Now, some of the 172 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:21.879 people did love the cultures, right, They really did immerse 173 00:10:21.960 --> 00:10:26.279 themselves in the local traditions and the ethnography of these peoples. 174 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:29.320 In fact, some of them may have actually converted to Islam. 175 00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:31.799 It's hard to know whether they really were converts or 176 00:10:31.840 --> 00:10:34.759 whether they were just doing it for their espionage cover, 177 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:39.759 like Saint John Philby, that's the father to Kim Philby, 178 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:45.639 the famous turncoat Soviet spy who was a British operative 179 00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:48.639 during the Cold War, who, along with the other you know, 180 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:52.159 famous Cambridge spy ring went to the Soviet Union. Because 181 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:55.159 they've decided that most of them, by the way, were 182 00:10:55.159 --> 00:10:58.919 also skittlesmen, so they were also compromised, and that was 183 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:01.960 part of what the KGB was very effective in doing 184 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:07.000 the Cold War was compromising skills operatives. But regardless, way 185 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:11.200 earlier than that, you had Philby's father as one key example. 186 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:15.279 Beyond probably t Lawrence is probably the most famous, but 187 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:19.080 probably the next most famous would be Saint John Philby 188 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:23.559 who went and became a He converted to Wahabism, and 189 00:11:23.679 --> 00:11:27.039 he seems to have been pretty serious about it, even 190 00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:29.200 if it was spy cover. He did it really well. 191 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:32.639 I mean, he'd donned the garb, he went full hobby, 192 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:37.279 and this was probably what was necessary for him to 193 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:41.159 be able to strike deals with for certain tribes and 194 00:11:41.240 --> 00:11:43.679 you know, basically helped to set up what we know 195 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:46.159 of as the Saudis. So the British Empire went in 196 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:48.919 and they wanted to set up their men, put their 197 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:53.519 proxies pay off, and have their tribal chieftains right running things. 198 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:56.360 And this is what they did, not just with men's 199 00:11:56.360 --> 00:12:00.279 spies like Lawrence and Saint John Philby, but and there's 200 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:03.519 many others, but also with women, which is kind of weird. 201 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:09.399 There's a couple famous British Arabist women spies, and that 202 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:12.960 might have actually been very useful precisely because they were women, 203 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:16.759 because you know, the Arabs and the tribes might not 204 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:21.840 have expected, you know, this lettered you know, frail British woman, 205 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:23.639 you know, to be a spy. But in the case 206 00:12:23.679 --> 00:12:27.240 of Gertrude Bell Frey as Stark, these are two a 207 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:30.440 pretty famous, wealthy British women who ended up being British 208 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:33.799 spies who helped set up in the case of Iraq, 209 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:38.759 like basically they just chose, okay, it's going to be 210 00:12:38.759 --> 00:12:42.960 even south and we create Iraq. Iraq is a created 211 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:47.000 country by the British Empire, as is Saudi Arabia. And 212 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:49.799 to get back to the main point, I'll stop yapping. 213 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:54.080 One of the ideas was to control Mecca, right, So 214 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:56.440 the British Empire thought, if we could control Mecca, that'd 215 00:12:56.440 --> 00:13:00.759 be a huge positive for geopolitics in terms of how 216 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:04.879 we managing control Islam. That would be a blow to 217 00:13:04.919 --> 00:13:09.679 the Ottomans. And so once the Ottomans were falling apart, 218 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:13.919 you have this secret deal called Syke's Pico and this 219 00:13:14.159 --> 00:13:19.720 divides up amongst Russia, France and England the Middle East, 220 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:21.679 and this is kind of how we have the Middle 221 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:24.679 East that we know today, with many of these countries 222 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:27.399 kind of being creations of the British Empire. So you've 223 00:13:27.399 --> 00:13:31.639 got like Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, these are all former 224 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:37.639 British areas. And it's not just the British. Russia and 225 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:41.799 France tried the same thing. It's just that, for whatever reason, 226 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:45.840 the British ended up being the most successful in getting 227 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:49.840 a hold of areas in the Middle East. And Napoleon 228 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:52.919 tried it, the French tried it, the Csars tried it. 229 00:13:53.480 --> 00:13:55.639 They just for whatever reason, we're not as successful as 230 00:13:55.639 --> 00:13:57.960 the British. 231 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:01.240 How close do you so? Taking a step back in 232 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:05.200 regard to the royal family in Saudi Arabia, one of 233 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:06.720 the things that I saw, but I didn't see any 234 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:11.200 citations just looking that they believe that the British intelligence 235 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:14.039 was instrumental in placing them in power. Absolutely, What are 236 00:14:14.039 --> 00:14:14.759 your thoughts on that? 237 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:17.679 Yeah, that's without question. I mean, it's just pretty much 238 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:23.240 that's the history. You know, there's a movie that was 239 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:25.960 just made that's not that great, but it was a 240 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:29.759 decent movie presentation of what's in the GUIs Mounier book. 241 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:35.360 Nicole Kidman actually played a Gertrude Bell in the I 242 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:37.279 don't know if it's a Netflix movie or something, but 243 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:39.639 it's like something like Woman of the Desert or something 244 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:42.440 like that. It was a okay movie. It's a little slow, 245 00:14:42.519 --> 00:14:45.759 but it's I mean, it's fairly accurate according to what 246 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:49.240 they relate about her history and her background. But yeah, 247 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:55.240 so basically, Lawrence was kind of the guy for and Philby. 248 00:14:56.200 --> 00:15:00.240 They were kind of the guys that were doing Wish 249 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:08.360 Empires operations in the Saudi Arabian region, and they just 250 00:15:08.519 --> 00:15:12.159 chose these tribal chieftains that they had the best rapport 251 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:14.759 with and the ones that they thought, you know, would 252 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:17.840 be the most useful. And I mean, I don't have 253 00:15:17.879 --> 00:15:20.279 any proof of this, but I mean I don't think 254 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:23.639 it's accidental that they sent Lawrence in who was, you know, 255 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:27.279 at least bisexual, if not just and so because he 256 00:15:27.279 --> 00:15:31.279 could have been a very good operative for compromising people. 257 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:33.759 And if you think about, you know, in terms of Islam, 258 00:15:34.200 --> 00:15:37.440 if somebody was compromising that way with Lawrence, I mean, 259 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:40.240 that would be the end, right, So that would be 260 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:44.600 powerful a compromise. But we'll also have to understand that 261 00:15:44.600 --> 00:15:47.320 not many people realize that Lawrence was operating at the 262 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:52.600 behest of the Milner Fabian socialist circles of Lord Rothchild, 263 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:56.960 Lord Milner, Cecil Rhodes, and as handler was a guy 264 00:15:57.039 --> 00:16:01.519 named David Hogarth who was known as his quote spiritual father. 265 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:06.559 He might have been his handler in more ways if 266 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:10.600 you catch what I mean, right, I'm being serious. I 267 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:13.080 mean this is I know how this stuff works. 268 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:15.879 You know, I totally believe the real world here. 269 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:19.960 But another thing that people don't know that's worth mentioning 270 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:24.679 in regard to the Saudi stuff is that throughout the 271 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:27.759 Middle East they had also set up quite a few 272 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:31.080 Masonic lodges, and the Masonic lodges were also a means 273 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:33.879 by which the British Empire was able to do a 274 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:37.799 lot of intelligence work. They got a lot of information 275 00:16:37.879 --> 00:16:41.279 and intel through the Masonic lodges, so that played a 276 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:44.200 role which not many people know about. But Mounier mentions 277 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:48.080 that in his chapter on to E. Lawrence, And basically 278 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:50.080 they just found that. I think the key here is 279 00:16:50.120 --> 00:16:54.279 that it's not so much which ideology they liked the best, 280 00:16:54.320 --> 00:16:58.799 but I think that what happens is the Wahabbi Salafi 281 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:05.279 radical verse is a great destabilizing force, right, So it's 282 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:08.359 great as a kind of a cult means of controlling people. 283 00:17:09.279 --> 00:17:11.799 If you can control the tribal chieftains and the you know, 284 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:15.640 emoms and all that. Uh, and it's great for destabilization 285 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:18.960 when you need to use it. And this explains actually 286 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:22.680 what the former head of Massad recently just said in 287 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:26.279 a massive interview on Al Jazeera. They asked him why 288 00:17:26.440 --> 00:17:31.480 has Israel more recently been supportive of al Nustra in 289 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:36.279 Syria and the destruction of the previous Baphist you know, 290 00:17:36.359 --> 00:17:40.240 assad secular type regime, nationalis type regime, And it's because 291 00:17:40.279 --> 00:17:44.799 it's a destabilizing force. And that's nothing new in regard 292 00:17:44.839 --> 00:17:47.960 to what the former Massadead was saying. This is just 293 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:52.640 the old British strategy that these types, these types of 294 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:55.079 Islam are great for destabilization. 295 00:17:55.319 --> 00:17:57.480 Right, that makes total sense. And one of the things 296 00:17:57.519 --> 00:18:00.640 that I saw, I was not totally surprised, but I 297 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:03.200 thought was, oh, that's pretty interesting. Makes a lot of sense. 298 00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:05.359 Is I recently did a stream maybe a month or 299 00:18:05.400 --> 00:18:08.799 two ago on the city of London and it being 300 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:11.880 this sort of the second largest financial center in the world, 301 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:14.519 and how it has this black market where all this 302 00:18:14.599 --> 00:18:16.720 money is flows through. So if you have if you 303 00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:19.079 have dirty money, you want to do business in London. 304 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:25.119 And I found that what was it. Salad Ramadan he 305 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:28.200 was like one of the head of the Muslim Brotherhood 306 00:18:28.559 --> 00:18:31.279 that when he was like leaving the Middle East, he 307 00:18:31.319 --> 00:18:34.359 had refuge in the city of London. And so him 308 00:18:34.359 --> 00:18:40.200 in a handful of like Muslim Brotherhood radicals. They all 309 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:43.119 like once once their gig was up, they just left 310 00:18:43.119 --> 00:18:46.000 and went back to London. I thought, oh, that's interesting. 311 00:18:46.039 --> 00:18:49.000 And then you connect you know, the Balfour Declaration, the 312 00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:51.920 roth Child money and and and then the support for Israel. 313 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:55.160 It's like very interesting how all that stuff circulates and 314 00:18:55.240 --> 00:18:56.839 it takes you always back to London. 315 00:18:58.039 --> 00:19:01.079 It does, and that's why people have called it Londanistan. 316 00:19:01.519 --> 00:19:06.480 It's because you have a very old lineage of linking, 317 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:12.640 you know, the British elites with Islam. And there's many 318 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:16.319 reasons for that. A lot of it's tactical geopolitical, as 319 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:17.759 we've talked about in terms of the beginning of the 320 00:19:17.759 --> 00:19:23.559 Great Game, but it's also because many of the British 321 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:28.359 elite structure, because of the imperial because of the expanse 322 00:19:28.400 --> 00:19:31.319 of the Empire, you have many people who were committed 323 00:19:31.759 --> 00:19:34.480 I mean they were aerobi files, and so a lot 324 00:19:34.519 --> 00:19:38.319 of that elite power power structure. For example, Gertrude Bell, 325 00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:42.319 who came from a very wealthy family, she for whatever reason, 326 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:45.160 just fell in love with all of that region. She 327 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:47.319 was she was such an odd ball as a woman, 328 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:49.799 which is totally out of character. You know, in the 329 00:19:50.279 --> 00:19:53.559 in the early nineteen hundreds, she goes to Iran and 330 00:19:53.640 --> 00:19:58.359 learns Farsi and starts translating Rumi's poetry, which is just 331 00:19:58.480 --> 00:20:01.640 really odd for or that kind of a woman. And 332 00:20:01.720 --> 00:20:04.599 I think the movie version with Nicole Kimmitt actually portrayed that. 333 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:06.160 Even though it wasn't that great of a movie, it 334 00:20:06.200 --> 00:20:10.880 portrayed that pretty well. So you did have this faction 335 00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:13.440 in this group that really loved it. And I think 336 00:20:13.680 --> 00:20:16.400 more recently people will look at, you know, King Charles 337 00:20:16.440 --> 00:20:19.359 and oh, look he's given money to the Sufi Orders, 338 00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:21.799 and here he is wearing the Sufi garb, and they'll 339 00:20:21.799 --> 00:20:25.559 act like he converted to Sufism. I mean maybe, but 340 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:29.039 I think from the vantage point of, you know, somebody 341 00:20:29.119 --> 00:20:32.759 like him, religion is just kind of a tool for 342 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:36.799 power if you're the state. You know, most people at 343 00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:40.960 that level are not perhaps ideologically committed, and so you 344 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:44.279 want to use these groups when they're useful. So it 345 00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:46.519 doesn't mean you're necessarily committed to Wahabism, it doesn't mean 346 00:20:46.519 --> 00:20:51.400 you necessarily committed to Sufhism, but those elements can be useful. 347 00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:54.720 I mentioned Muslim Brotherhood real briefly because Muslim brother is 348 00:20:54.759 --> 00:20:57.680 a great example coming out of Egypt of a group 349 00:20:57.720 --> 00:21:01.519 that was created with some doobie origins. I think Albana 350 00:21:01.799 --> 00:21:06.480 is a very suspicious character if you look at Dreyfus's book, 351 00:21:06.559 --> 00:21:10.160 there's a great chapter on him. But they were a 352 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:15.799 broader political activist movement that wanted to expand Sunni Islam 353 00:21:16.480 --> 00:21:20.160 into politics. And what's interesting about them is that the 354 00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:24.079 CIA and British British Intelligence CIA made an open alliance 355 00:21:24.160 --> 00:21:28.240 with the Muslim Brotherhood in the forties and fifties because 356 00:21:28.279 --> 00:21:32.279 they saw them as a potential hedge against Soviets. So 357 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:37.759 just like the British Empire might want to align themselves 358 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:42.799 with say Saudi or other types of Muslims against Ottoman 359 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:46.440 Turkish dominance. Right, so you're playing one kind of Islam 360 00:21:46.440 --> 00:21:49.920 against another. Same model goes on in the Cold War 361 00:21:50.440 --> 00:21:52.799 where there was a period if you read moles Copeland's 362 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:57.680 biography where he says they the CIA toyed with pan 363 00:21:57.799 --> 00:22:01.480 Arabism or Arab nationalism. They actually supported the Bathist at 364 00:22:01.480 --> 00:22:03.640 one point, and this is why you can find those 365 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:10.759 old images of like that Saddam had CIA support when 366 00:22:10.759 --> 00:22:13.680 he was early on a Bathist and you'll notice there's 367 00:22:13.720 --> 00:22:16.799 a picture of him shaking hands with Rumsfeld. Right, So 368 00:22:16.799 --> 00:22:21.880 there's an old CIA linkage between the Bathists and Western intelligence. 369 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:24.759 But what happened was when the Cold War kicked off, 370 00:22:25.519 --> 00:22:31.119 the secular nationalist Arab pan Arabis movements were swinging more 371 00:22:31.119 --> 00:22:34.279 and more towards the Soviets, and so the CIA saw 372 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:37.319 them as less of an ally and becoming more of 373 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:40.599 a threat because they might get assistance from the Soviet Union. 374 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:43.400 So that made the CIA then say, okay, now we're 375 00:22:43.400 --> 00:22:46.640 going to do this older British strategy. We're going to 376 00:22:46.680 --> 00:22:50.440 link ourselves up with the more radical factions and sections 377 00:22:50.440 --> 00:22:53.799 of Islam. Hence the alliance with in this case Mulsom 378 00:22:53.799 --> 00:22:56.880 Brotherhood in nineteen fifty six. This is called Operations Straggle, 379 00:22:57.519 --> 00:22:59.559 and this was a joint venture of CIA and m 380 00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:03.519 I to use a mother Brother Muslim brotherhood to stage 381 00:23:03.519 --> 00:23:07.240 a coup in Syria. That coup was not successful, but 382 00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:11.599 this came about because one of these women who were 383 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:15.200 British intelligence operatives that we talked about, like Gertrue Brothers, 384 00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:17.960 there's no one named Freya Stark. And Freya Stark was 385 00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:21.440 a woman who was sent out to do reconnaissance for 386 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:23.559 the British impart throughout the Middle East and she had 387 00:23:23.559 --> 00:23:27.799 made these contacts with Muslim brotherhood figures, and Miles Copeland 388 00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:31.599 in Game of Nations says, yeah, we turned to T 389 00:23:31.759 --> 00:23:35.480 E R R O R because anytime Nasar gave us 390 00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:38.279 a problem, and he was he was a CIA consultant 391 00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:41.279 to Nasar. He says, anytime that he gave us a problem, 392 00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:44.160 we could just say, well you might you might have 393 00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:45.759 a little bit of a T E R R O 394 00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:47.680 R problem on your hand if you don't do what 395 00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:50.279 Washington and the CIA wants. So you can begin to 396 00:23:50.319 --> 00:23:51.559 see how the game works. 397 00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:57.480 Yep, classic problem reaction solution. So you're we've kind of 398 00:23:57.720 --> 00:24:02.680 discussed here a large history. Where would you pinpoint the 399 00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:07.720 beginning of British intelligence involvement with Islam? Specifically? Is it 400 00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:11.359 with T. E. Lawrence? I mean, where if you had 401 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:13.119 to describe the beginning of the process. 402 00:24:13.839 --> 00:24:15.759 Well, I think for the modern world and the Great Game, 403 00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:19.160 it would be that. But I would imagine that I'm 404 00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:22.799 sure the British Empire had you know, Islamic connections going 405 00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:26.359 all the way back to you know, the you know 406 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:29.359 time of Elizabeth and all of that. I don't know, 407 00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:32.079 It's interesting when you go back to like that time period, 408 00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:37.039 there's less and less written about espionage exploits, you know, 409 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:39.079 going back into the fifteen hundreds and sixteen hundreds. But 410 00:24:39.119 --> 00:24:41.079 I would imagine, you know, they had they had those 411 00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:44.720 connections back then. But for what I know about is 412 00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:47.240 just the more recent, you know, post to the Great 413 00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:50.559 Game stuff, which you know, really the reason this is 414 00:24:50.559 --> 00:24:54.359 so important for us is that we're still seeing this 415 00:24:54.519 --> 00:24:57.640 play out now in the Middle like the battles and 416 00:24:57.680 --> 00:24:59.359 the things that you see happening in the Middle East 417 00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:01.960 where you know what Israel. I just did a live 418 00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:08.559 stream the other day about Lebanon, the Cia, Syria, Jordan 419 00:25:08.680 --> 00:25:13.319 and you know, all that area around Israel that's playing 420 00:25:13.359 --> 00:25:18.119 out because of the presuppositions of what the British Empire 421 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:21.119 set up. So everything that we're dealing with today is 422 00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:26.039 rooted in the British imperial layout and structure. And this, 423 00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:30.319 for example, is why the when Israel started to have 424 00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:34.880 its own wanted to exert its own power. I guess 425 00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:37.440 you could say they were not happy with being a 426 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:41.000 British colony, and so you had the Irgun, the Stern Gang. 427 00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:45.559 These are essentially organized crime factions who began to begin 428 00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:50.079 to make moves to throw off British colonial rule. And 429 00:25:50.119 --> 00:25:52.519 there were different motivations and reasons why they did that. 430 00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:55.440 In fact, a lot of people don't notice, but they 431 00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:59.160 were actually split between whether they wanted to support the 432 00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:03.359 axis some of these I'm serious, some of these Jewish gangs, 433 00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:05.559 or support of the allies. And the one reason for 434 00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:09.480 that was they reasoned that, well, if the Ox's pollowers 435 00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:12.039 were the enemies of the British Empire and the Brits, 436 00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:16.480 and we wanted to overthrow British colonial rule, maybe we 437 00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:20.279 should support those guys. It's the same reasoning why some 438 00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:23.720 of the Irish Republican Army, the IRA also wanted to 439 00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:28.680 support Tiny Mustache. So so just alliances of you know, 440 00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:31.480 enemy of my enemy as my friend, that type stuff. 441 00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:38.799 But it was actually you know, the organized crime sort 442 00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:44.240 of stern gang Irraguan circles that become the nascent Israeli 443 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:49.160 intelligence service and people don't even know that guests who 444 00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:51.839 trained some of them. Do you know this? You'll never 445 00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:54.160 You'll never guess if you don't know quiz question. 446 00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:55.160 I'm not sure. 447 00:26:55.960 --> 00:27:00.279 One of the famous trainers of these people is named 448 00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:05.200 Otto Skorzeny, and he was a high level operative of 449 00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:09.920 Tiny Mustache Man. Of course that's just public history, right, 450 00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:13.960 so uh and when he you know, when Tiny Mustache 451 00:27:13.960 --> 00:27:17.079 Man lost, just like rhin Hard Galen, that network of 452 00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:19.599 spies that he had set up for Tiny Mustache Man, 453 00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:23.000 that all became just immediately. The property is DA right, 454 00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:25.279 so we know what we all all heard about paper clip, right, 455 00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:29.640 But paper clip is also the CIA taking over rhin 456 00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:34.519 Hard galen spy network throughout Europe Galen Org and one 457 00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:39.519 of those nascent networks, uh is that network in Germany 458 00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:42.720 is now called the B and D German Intelligent German 459 00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:46.880 Intelligence is literally Galen's network that the CIA just took 460 00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:49.480 over after the Cold War because they gave him a deal. 461 00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:54.240 They said, you can go to prison or death, prison 462 00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:55.680 for the rest of your life or death, or we 463 00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:57.920 get your spine networks and we don't kill you. So 464 00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:00.920 that was a deal they gave to Galen anyway. So 465 00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:04.519 that again kind of tells you that like everything that 466 00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:09.319 we're experiencing and living through today is situated in the 467 00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:12.960 milieu of the British imperial structure. 468 00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:18.839 Well can you speak to because recently Cure Stormer has 469 00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:21.160 talked about sending British troops to the front lines in 470 00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:23.160 Ukraine and then it came out that they only actually 471 00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:27.720 have like eighteen thousand like military ready soldiers in Britain, 472 00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:30.920 which is I mean, I wouldn't have suspected it was 473 00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:33.759 that low. That was That was kind of mind blowing 474 00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:41.519 for me. So is the extension of force of whatever 475 00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:44.319 remains of the British Empire? Is it now basically intelligence 476 00:28:44.359 --> 00:28:47.359 agencies because it doesn't seem like they have any significant 477 00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:53.400 actual military power. Is it blackmails? It, you know, spies? Intelligence? 478 00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:56.480 What would how would you describe the transition of like 479 00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:59.799 the fall of the British Empire into the spy networks. 480 00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:04.440 Yeah, it's interesting because the you know, at one time, 481 00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:06.960 if you go back to the eighteen hundreds when the 482 00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:11.000 British East India Company was at its peak, I mean 483 00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:15.039 it was bringing in like some outrageous amount of money 484 00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:18.440 that's like beyond even what Apple's worth, Like they were 485 00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:20.480 bringing this in on a regular basis. I mean, the 486 00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:24.119 East India Company was just just insanely massive in terms 487 00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:26.480 of wealth and power. It really was kind of the 488 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.279 engine of the British Empire, and so as it waned, 489 00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.200 I think the Crown just one day kind of just 490 00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:35.599 appropriated and said, okay, the British rest Unit Company is 491 00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:38.240 the property of the Crown now. So the British Crown 492 00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:42.839 itself is interesting because it's kind of this entity or 493 00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:45.519 corporation that owns a lot of land and a lot 494 00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:49.359 of places you wouldn't expect. They're very large landholders. They 495 00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:52.599 own a lot of land in Canada. I don't even 496 00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:55.079 know if we know exactly how all that works. It 497 00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:59.279 is intertwined with the wealth and power of the Rothchilds 498 00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:03.079 as well. That's been an open, well known thing for 499 00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:03.759 a long time. 500 00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:05.279 You know. 501 00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:08.359 Obviously they were very influential and involved in the Bank 502 00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:11.599 of England as well as the Bank of France. It 503 00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:15.400 quickly has many chapters on that, so you know exactly 504 00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:20.039 the nature and extent of that is difficult to determine, 505 00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:25.319 but the empire itself waned as America rose to power 506 00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:28.240 and so it went from you know, Pax Britannia to 507 00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:32.160 Pax Americana, especially after World War One and World War two, 508 00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:36.039 so the US came to power. But what the British 509 00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:39.119 were very adept at doing was through their sort of 510 00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:43.640 concentric circles model of how to construct what they call 511 00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:47.119 roundtable groups. You can have governments within governments is really 512 00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:50.279 how it works, and it's based on the East India 513 00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:54.920 companies model of like the committees of shareholders within the 514 00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:59.359 company who had just untold you know, vast amounts of 515 00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:01.920 wealth and control. So that's kind of the structure that 516 00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:05.880 they modeled their empire on and quickly talks about it 517 00:31:05.960 --> 00:31:11.079 like it was loosely speaking, a secret society. Calls it 518 00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:13.759 the Society the Elect. This was Cecil Rhodes's idea to 519 00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:18.200 create this society of the elect that would promote what 520 00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:24.799 he called a world federalist socialist union, to create an 521 00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:31.680 entire commonwealth of socialist type countries that would be the 522 00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:35.519 new British Empire. This was the original Cecil Rhodes raw 523 00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:40.400 Child John Ruskin idea. So it didn't exactly play out 524 00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:43.240 like that. But one thing they were able to do 525 00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:49.079 was to bring America and American isolationism back under the 526 00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:54.160 sway of imperial global geopolitical strategies. And as you know, 527 00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:56.799 the founding father said, we want to stay out of 528 00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:59.920 European entanglements. And so it took a lot of this 529 00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:03.839 wealth and power and influence in the US through things 530 00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:07.440 like the CFR Trelateral's all that stuff. That's all set 531 00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:11.079 up on the model of Chatham House in the UK, 532 00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:16.000 which is this sort of Fabian socialist interclique. British Intelligence 533 00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:18.920 was set up as a Fabian socialist institution. Its heads 534 00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:22.880 were originally all Fabian socialists. And so you mentioned Kiir Starmer, 535 00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:27.039 he is also openly a Fabian socialist. So exactly the 536 00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:31.240 same people, same strategy, same game plan. Tony Blair was 537 00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:36.119 a member of the Fabian Socialist party. That kind of 538 00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:39.319 dominates the ideology. But you're right that it doesn't require 539 00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:44.319 vast armies, you know, marching armies. British Empire was a 540 00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:48.359 naval power. They were not a land power as Dougan 541 00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:50.839 and many you know geopolitical people talk about you have 542 00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:55.160 a sea power versus Russia. Is a land power. British empire. 543 00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:59.319 Britain's tiny, and yet it had this vast empire through 544 00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:05.119 controlling disease. So it was a sea power, a money power, 545 00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:09.559 a banking power ultimately, and a lot of people liking it. 546 00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:12.559 To Italy when Italy had a lot of power, you know, 547 00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:16.000 centuries ago, they were a also kind of a sea power. 548 00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:18.160 Well, it seems like that banking power is the only 549 00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:22.200 thing that's left in regardless like British British influence, British 550 00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:25.680 power and its ability to exert it on the world. 551 00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:26.920 It seems like I. 552 00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:30.359 Think they do project. They do project that power to 553 00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:34.839 a degree through the Royal family, because the Royal Family, 554 00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:37.559 as we said, is kind of a corporation, right that 555 00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:41.519 promotes to the west, through Canada, through Australia, because those 556 00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:43.799 are still commonwealths of the British Empire. 557 00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:47.160 Well, you speak of commonwealth, what are your thoughts about 558 00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:50.920 King Charles supposedly coming to the US to offer Trump 559 00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:53.640 the title of making the US a commonwealth. I mean, 560 00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:55.880 what are you familiar with what I'm talking about? 561 00:33:55.880 --> 00:33:57.759 Like, Yeah, I don't know what to make of that. 562 00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:02.799 I think it's goofy, It's silly I mean honestly, like 563 00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:06.720 all the Trump saying we're going to make Canada a state, 564 00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:09.000 We're going to make Greenland. I have no idea what. 565 00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:12.079 I don't even understand what I mean. I know it 566 00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:17.239 has to do with like trade deficits and you know whatever, 567 00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:20.000 but I have no idea what this means or where 568 00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:23.039 it's going. But but yeah, I mean when you I 569 00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:25.800 think key point here, when we understand this, And to 570 00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:29.199 get back to your question about like pinpointing when it 571 00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:34.400 became a policy for the UK way ahead of the EU. 572 00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:40.800 Like the UK in nineteen ten nineteen twenty, very prominent 573 00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:44.920 Fabian socialists were at that time saying it's time to 574 00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:49.119 make alliances with Islam because we can change the face 575 00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:55.880 of the UK and Europe through Islam. Right, And so 576 00:34:55.960 --> 00:35:00.320 it became you know, a tool early on. First all, 577 00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:03.440 not through the Wahabi Salafi stuff, because if you just 578 00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:05.519 try to import, if you try to import that into 579 00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:08.760 the UK in the nineteen tens and twenties, it would 580 00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:10.719 have never worked. So what do you do you do? 581 00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:15.280 What's the Fabian model, a slow kill model. Suonies, we 582 00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:21.360 bring in the ecumenist, very perennialist minded Sunnies, the mystical 583 00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:22.800 neo Platonic. 584 00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:25.800 Save them from persecution in the Middle East. Bring them 585 00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:26.519 to they brought. 586 00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:28.639 They even brought these guys over. Rachio some really great 587 00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:32.239 chapters in his book where they bring these intellectuals and 588 00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:36.039 they let him teach at Oxford and Cambridge. These intellectual 589 00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:42.480 Sufis then set up these missionary publishing societies. They start 590 00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:46.960 promoting Sufism throughout the UK and the nineteen ten and 591 00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:52.239 twenties thirties. Then over time you start bringing in the 592 00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:57.719 more radical Sunni Wahabbi type elements. That's where we are today, 593 00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:03.480 where you have lund honisty. But it's not accidental. People 594 00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:06.440 think that this is it's just liberals that are open borders. No, 595 00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:11.320 it's a specific strategy that many of the baby and 596 00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:14.679 socialist elite said, we got to eradicate Christianity in the 597 00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:17.800 West and in Europe, and one of the best ways 598 00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:21.519 to do that would be to flood the UK and 599 00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:25.440 EU with Islam. Right, they're very candid about it. 600 00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:33.159 So other than the ability to alter and augment European 601 00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:39.280 identity and culture and then the radical, violent elements of Islam, 602 00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:44.800 why are intelligence agencies so interested in manipulating and utilizing Islam. 603 00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:48.639 Are there other aspects of the paradigm the worldview that 604 00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:52.159 are very useful as a utility for people are wanting 605 00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:53.960 to control and manipulate populations. 606 00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:56.519 Oh absolutely, I mean I think we can think immediately 607 00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:59.360 of you know, what Myles Copan says is that he 608 00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:05.599 says Islam's great religion for creating a t e r 609 00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:10.679 R patsy. I mean, you've got the ready made idea 610 00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:14.480 going back to, you know, the martyrdom idea that oh 611 00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:17.119 guess what, you know, die for this cause and you're 612 00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:19.760 going to get You're going to get laid for eternity, 613 00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:25.320 right right. So that's a very powerful motivation for perhaps 614 00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:31.679 not just young men who are very manipulable, but even 615 00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:35.400 unstable people can very easily be used in this way. 616 00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:39.199 And again that's what Males Copeland actually explains in his 617 00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:41.719 biography at about this He says that you know, they 618 00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:45.119 make the perfect patsy when we want this kind of 619 00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:47.760 an event. So it doesn't mean that the CIA or 620 00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:51.599 Version intelligence is behind every t R OUR event. It's 621 00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:53.760 not saying that at all. It's just saying that when 622 00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:56.960 it's useful, it's very useful for as you pointed out, 623 00:37:57.119 --> 00:38:01.400 everything from a destabilizing force in a rival nation to 624 00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:09.760 just terrorizing a target population. It can also bring about 625 00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:15.159 the end legal changes that you want. So you want 626 00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:18.760 to have I don't know, body scanners at every airport 627 00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:23.079 or a giant tea event would be great for that, right. 628 00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:24.679 So there's a lot of different. 629 00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:27.719 Right, you had the subway bombing in London, it was 630 00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:30.000 out of the early early two thousand and seven. That 631 00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:31.679 was kind of like their nine to eleven event that 632 00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:34.599 reorganized their society exactly. 633 00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:35.239 A great example. 634 00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:39.559 Yeah, So I was also mentioned, you know, when you 635 00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:41.519 were talking about that, I was thinking that Islam is 636 00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:48.400 also so culturally cohesive. That is is another reason why 637 00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:54.559 it is such a useful weapon against Western nations is 638 00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:58.199 you know, the the unity of Arabic you know, you 639 00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:00.960 can find you know, Buddhist tradition, and they don't all 640 00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:03.119 speak the same language, they don't all come from the 641 00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:05.920 same culture. But Islam is sort of a submission to 642 00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:11.719 Arabism and so and it's filled with political and militaristic 643 00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:15.079 ideology is the name of religion. So it seems like 644 00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:17.840 it as a paradigm out of all the world religions. 645 00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:20.280 Islam is certainly the most useful if you want to 646 00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:21.559 sort of take control of it. 647 00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:25.599 It's a death cult. It's a model for creating a 648 00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:29.519 kind of a death cult type of thing. Absolutely, absolutely great. 649 00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:32.920 That's a great point. I mean, even even a lot 650 00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:37.719 of the modern apologists critiquing Islam, whether it's David Wood 651 00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:40.559 or Sam Shimun or Jay Smith, A lot of people 652 00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:44.440 who have critiqued that have noted that you can see 653 00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:48.800 early on in the Quran that before the later you know, 654 00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:54.559 battles that Muhammad engaged in, it's intended to be the 655 00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:59.360 revelation for Arab peoples. So, in other words, early points 656 00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:02.920 in the Quran, all us speaks as if well, the 657 00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:06.880 Jews have their Bible and the Christians have their thing, 658 00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:10.760 this is the thing for the Arabs, right, So it 659 00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:15.519 initially has this verythno nationalist, I guess you could say, 660 00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:21.920 vibe to it. Before later on Mohammad says, after certain battles, Oh, no, 661 00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:23.840 actually this is to take over the whole world now. 662 00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:27.079 So you can actually see an internal contradiction in the 663 00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:30.079 Quran itself to where it moves from being just relative 664 00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:32.480 to the Arab people's too, oh no, actually this is 665 00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:36.960 for everybody, conquer everybody now right. 666 00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:41.079 Now? How much influence, because you were talking about the 667 00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:44.679 earlier years of the British intelligence having to do with 668 00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:48.719 you know, the OPEC nations oil energy. How much influence 669 00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:52.280 do they still have in places like Cutter and the 670 00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:57.079 UAE and Saudi Arabia. What in your perspective, what is 671 00:40:57.119 --> 00:40:59.960 that influence and relationship with British intelligence still. 672 00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:08.000 I think that uh, British intelligence has since the Cold 673 00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:11.639 War earlier, had a what they call a special relationship 674 00:41:11.679 --> 00:41:15.400 with America. So they link up and they do things 675 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:18.559 very closely. It's part of the you know, five eyes, 676 00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:21.000 seven eyes. These are the you know, Western sort of 677 00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:25.800 intelligence powers and structures. They're united together. So I think 678 00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:28.320 the key thing to realize here is that remember that 679 00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:32.360 for US in the West, there might be periods where 680 00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:35.199 we have some sort of disagreement with the UK or whatever, 681 00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:40.800 but the overlord oligarchic power structure is the same. It's 682 00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:46.760 the same upper level people that run both the US 683 00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:50.239 and the UK, and by extension that YOUU because if 684 00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:54.039 you understand, the European Union itself was set up by 685 00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:56.559 the os S and the CIA. It's literally a creation 686 00:41:56.719 --> 00:41:58.760 of the U, S S and CIA. This is the 687 00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:02.960 post tiny stash Man after he loses OS S and 688 00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:04.960 c A comes in and literally sets up all that. 689 00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:11.719 In fact, they even brainwash the Germans with re education camps, 690 00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:14.119 so we think of that as a Soviet communist thing. No, actually, 691 00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:16.719 the CIA set up I'm serious. They set up at 692 00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:20.119 re education camps for Germans after the after World War two. 693 00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:26.239 So you know you've got this this elite corporate banking structure. 694 00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:29.199 I believe that is what quickly calls the uh you know, 695 00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:34.239 Atlanticist East Anglo American establishment, and that includes the nation 696 00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:38.079 state of Israel. So I'm not excluding them. And they 697 00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:44.400 still see you know, certain places like Russia, Uh, maybe 698 00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:47.599 Iran to some degree. I'm not an iffy on how 699 00:42:48.760 --> 00:42:51.039 you know, how much I think Iran is a real 700 00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:54.559 threat or not, but I think they do see these 701 00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:57.920 the way that Brazinski said, we have to make sure 702 00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:03.719 that they could never be any potential threat or challenge 703 00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:08.719 to Atlantis's dominance and thus control of Eurasia, according to Brazinski, 704 00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:11.880 was the key means to that. Hence why for them 705 00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:15.960 Ukraine is so important, because that's that's essential to Western 706 00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:23.000 NATO dominance in the Eurasian heartland. So so that's why 707 00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:25.480 a lot of these things happen, is these motivations. But 708 00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:27.639 I don't think like you said, it's not really British. 709 00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:30.920 I mean, British intelligence plays a key role because for example, 710 00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:36.039 British intelligence created the p Gate scandal that was literally 711 00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:40.599 created by the Steele dossi age's straight out of British 712 00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:41.679 intelligence created well, and. 713 00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:43.960 It seems like that's what the CIA does is whenever 714 00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.199 they want to do any sort of domestic operation and 715 00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:48.639 they just give all the tools over to the UK 716 00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:51.440 and then five or m I six then comes up 717 00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:53.519 with something and all of a sudden it's national you know, 718 00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:56.360 global news that something XYZ has happened. 719 00:43:56.880 --> 00:44:00.840 Exactly absolutely so there is That's why you see like 720 00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:04.920 Saddle and those creeps, you know, tied into the same 721 00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:09.239 intelligence structure in the UK, and you know M I five, 722 00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:11.840 m S six have these brothels that they run like. 723 00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:18.199 El and Epstein I mean Maxwell, the father senior, I 724 00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:22.039 mean it was Masad in British intelligence who he worked 725 00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:22.960 for the most. 726 00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:28.920 Correct likewise with apparently Lord Victor Rochald appears to be 727 00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:31.719 doing a very similar type of thing, correct, except in 728 00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:34.800 Victor's case it wasn't just Westerly. He was actually also 729 00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:39.000 working with Soviets. So you'll find certain players actually played 730 00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:40.119 both sides of the Cold War. 731 00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:44.079 And so can you speak to this this dialectic that 732 00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:53.159 the globalist Anglo American banking dominant structure, how it sort 733 00:44:53.159 --> 00:45:00.639 of demonizes domestic population, spies all them, blackmails anybody with influence, 734 00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:04.119 and at the same time then brings in massive amounts 735 00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:08.239 of people to totally alter and transform transform the cultures. 736 00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:10.840 What I mean, I already have an idea, but how 737 00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:14.480 does these things relate to the endpoint of a new 738 00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:17.280 global order? What are they trying to construct through all this? 739 00:45:19.079 --> 00:45:22.039 Well, a couple examples is uh, and this is a 740 00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:25.639 controversial topic, but uh, I mean I have his actual books. 741 00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:30.320 You can read Count Kutenhov Kolergy's book Practical Idealism, which 742 00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:32.800 I have right over there, and he says, uh, you know, 743 00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:39.079 we can destroy Europe through changing the demographics. Quickly says 744 00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:43.159 that the royal society elites the people in our I 745 00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:46.320 a Royal Instagram, National Affairs and others. They basically said, 746 00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:51.679 let's go with the Count's plan. Uh, And that's identical 747 00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:54.480 to what the Fabian socialists were pushing. What they wanted. 748 00:45:54.519 --> 00:46:00.000 They realized that in order to have a future socialist technology, 749 00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:04.880 christy type of world federation, you would need to destroy 750 00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:08.119 the firewalls that stood in the way of that. And 751 00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:14.079 firewalls would be nation states and religious ideologies like Christianity, 752 00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:17.239 as well as even things that we think of as 753 00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:20.400 fundamental like the family unit. Maybe, and socialist believe that 754 00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:22.199 eventually you'd have to get rid of the family because 755 00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:27.119 families are directly connected to private property and inheritance right 756 00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:28.960 in heritage and tradition, and if you're going to have 757 00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:32.360 a brave new world, got to get rid of that stuff, right. 758 00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:35.559 So the post humanists, i mean, there's a whole strand 759 00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:40.960 about decoupling reproduction from sexual practices. So it's i mean 760 00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:44.079 their goal. And these are you know, these are papers 761 00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:47.679 from very important institutions literally saying that the future of 762 00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:51.000 reproduction will be totally I mean, in my terms, a 763 00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:53.480 sort of synthetic fabrication. It's going to be done in 764 00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:57.159 a laboratory, it's going to be done through IVF and 765 00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:01.039 and these are these are academical articles that I was 766 00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:06.719 citing in my paper. They're literally saying that, you know, sex, 767 00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:10.159 not just gender, not just performative gender, but actual sex 768 00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:13.920 will be on a fluid spectrum, that all the tranny stuff, 769 00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:17.920 this is all intentional and in actual intercourse is only 770 00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:19.639 going to be for pleasure. So they want to make 771 00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:22.480 it that actually people probably can't reproduce him if they 772 00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:26.719 wanted to, and so everybody is just then hedonistic pursuing 773 00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:29.400 sexual gratification and nobody can actually reproduce. 774 00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:33.679 Yeah, I remember that Lord Birkenhead's famous essay. He's one 775 00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:36.679 of these British technocratic baby and socials elites. He wrote 776 00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:41.320 back in nineteen twenties, the essay for Cosmopolitan magazine where 777 00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:44.159 he said, saved my article because in one hundred years, 778 00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:47.519 babies will come out of test tubes, you'll have a 779 00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:51.679 world government, et cetera, et cetera. And props to Tristan 780 00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:54.760 for he hit me to that before I'd never even 781 00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:57.320 heard of Lord Birkenhead. I've been reading all these books, 782 00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:01.119 and you know he found that essay years ago. But 783 00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:04.199 it's also identical to what Huxley wrote in Brave New World, 784 00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:06.599 Like in chapter one or two a Brave New World. 785 00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:09.360 It's actually explained that the babies are born in test 786 00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:14.280 tubes because that's the only way to have the technocratic 787 00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:18.679 state be your stand in mommy or daddy, because if 788 00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:21.719 you're born to a parent, you have an immediate attachment 789 00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:23.840 to them. If you're born in a test tube, you 790 00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:31.000 got mad scientists doctor Man as your daddy, right. Literally 791 00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:34.079 they say that in the character in I think it's 792 00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:37.079 chapter one, actually explains that this is why we birth 793 00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:38.920 the babies and the test tubes and not from a 794 00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:40.000 mother anymore. 795 00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:43.119 Right, And that abstraction of parenthood is going to make 796 00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:47.199 somebody much more sympathetic to like central authority, So like 797 00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:51.239 a communist or a socialist or some centralized governmental identity. 798 00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:53.719 If your identity is not coming from your parents and 799 00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:57.599 from like genetic heritage and culture, it's gonna be you're 800 00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:00.960 gonna tie yourself to whatever structure of importance exist in 801 00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:06.119 that particular context. So like for these fabian socialists, it 802 00:49:06.119 --> 00:49:06.960 makes total sense. 803 00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:10.599 There's also a connection, to believe or not, between that 804 00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:13.639 and espionage because one of the things they learned in 805 00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:18.119 the you know, say, past one hundred years of recruiting 806 00:49:18.119 --> 00:49:20.760 people for British intelligence work was that a lot of times, 807 00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:23.760 people who made the best spies were the ones that 808 00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:29.639 had didn't have parental figures. And so in the case 809 00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:33.320 of James Bond, he's a case example because Bond is 810 00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:37.880 the figure who is an orphan, right and the handlers 811 00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:42.760 him in the novels they know that, and so Queen 812 00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:45.760 and Country becomes this, the queen becomes to sort of 813 00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:50.559 stand in aloof mother figure, nanny state figure. And that's 814 00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:53.000 not just him, I mean in the Munier book, I 815 00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:56.920 mean there's other spies who were also famously orphans. So 816 00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:00.639 you can learn from those test cases of those people 817 00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:03.800 to then they could extrapolate and say, well, why don't 818 00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:08.360 we just make everybody this kind of you know, automaton 819 00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:11.599 who And I'm not saying that, like James Bond's supposed 820 00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:13.639 to be just a killing machine, right, but the point 821 00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:16.880 is that he doesn't. He doesn't have a conscience, and 822 00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:21.159 he doesn't have the firewalls that we're talking about because 823 00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:26.039 of the early trauma. And so if you can traumatize, say, 824 00:50:26.599 --> 00:50:31.519 youthful people when on a mass scale when they're young, 825 00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:33.320 which is what we're seeing with a lot of this 826 00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:37.599 tr and Z stuff, right, and you know, the stuff 827 00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:40.480 that they're doing too. You know what I'm talking about, 828 00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:44.039 reassignment stuff and all like that is just going to 829 00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:50.320 damage them for life, right, And that kind of information 830 00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:55.480 is exactly what spies and people who were engaged in 831 00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:59.360 sexual compromise were themselves learning and doing. Does that make 832 00:50:59.400 --> 00:50:59.719 sense why? 833 00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:03.519 Yeah? Well, and it draws a you know, you mentioned 834 00:51:03.519 --> 00:51:06.119 that Islam is a death cult and draws that sort 835 00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:11.320 of strand and ties both this Anglo American global establishment 836 00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:15.360 banking elite because they themselves are a death cul and 837 00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:20.039 the things that they're pushing and so Islam. They have 838 00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:24.000 no ideological difference. This is something that I'll see it 839 00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:26.199 in one of the chats I forget a few streams ago, 840 00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:29.960 but talking about how you know, some of these British 841 00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:32.760 elites they just don't realize yet what all these Muslims 842 00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:34.320 are going to do to their country. It's like, dude, 843 00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:37.239 what are you talking about. They don't have an opposition 844 00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:39.960 to it, they don't care. They know exactly what's going 845 00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:42.639 to happen, and so what are your kind of thoughts 846 00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:46.119 on I mean, like in that video I did on 847 00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:50.000 the city of London, London is the most Muslim city 848 00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:51.920 in all of Europe. I believe it. Now it's the 849 00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:54.000 first city to have over a thousand mosques. 850 00:51:55.719 --> 00:51:58.079 Yeah, I mean, I just posted a couple of weeks 851 00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:03.400 ago the classic clips of Prince Philip saying, you know, 852 00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:08.039 the number one problem in the world is people, and 853 00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:11.400 he says people are a plague. And I found his 854 00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:14.519 Old Guardian, the Old Guardian article where it says that 855 00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:17.039 his famous, one of his most famous quotes is I 856 00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:19.719 hope when I die to come back as a virus, 857 00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:22.239 to get rid of most parts. So you understand that 858 00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:24.400 the British elites they don't care about Britain, they don't 859 00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:28.239 care about the British people. Fact, they hate them. They're Malthusians, right, 860 00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:33.920 They're like open, rabid Malthusians. And when you understand that, 861 00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:38.239 and when you understand the Fabian socialist, technocratic ideology, everything 862 00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:41.559 they're doing makes perfect sense. It's not it's not idiot 863 00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:44.719 liberals who don't know what's happened. They know what's happening exactly. 864 00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:47.039 You that doesn't know what's happening because you listen to 865 00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:49.119 Matt wallsh You know these people who act like there's. 866 00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:52.639 No exactly ape goading of ignorance, amongst the elite. I 867 00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:55.800 think that's one of the it's it's actually a very 868 00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:59.800 nefarious it is out for a lot of people is like, oh, well, 869 00:52:59.840 --> 00:53:02.199 they're just ignorant. No, dude, they're not ignorant at all. 870 00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:03.199 Don't you realize this is. 871 00:53:03.159 --> 00:53:05.920 Always they think that it's like Joe Biden running stuff. 872 00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:06.119 You know. 873 00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:12.800 Yeah, look at that idiot up there. He can't even talk. Yeah, 874 00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:16.199 of course he wasn't running shit. He's the perfect face 875 00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:17.960 for all this stuff. 876 00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:23.360 So how what I mean is there I'm sure there 877 00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:26.719 is a role amongst the intelligence agencies, like the fact 878 00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:29.239 that they've been able to get all of Western Europe 879 00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:33.199 and at least a handful of Central European nations to 880 00:53:33.239 --> 00:53:36.519 buy into all this stuff and allow all this mass immigration. 881 00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:41.199 I mean, I have a friend in Greece and Athens 882 00:53:41.320 --> 00:53:46.400 is being absolutely overrun with Muslims. It sounds like the 883 00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:48.960 PM in Italy is trying to take some type of stand, 884 00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:52.679 but France seems to be gone. My wife is from Germany, 885 00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:56.000 and so she's from southern Germany and Stuttgart, and they 886 00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:59.039 have so many Turks that are coming that now two 887 00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:01.199 out of every three baby he's born in Stuttgart are 888 00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:04.840 Turkish and that only you know, you play that for 889 00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:07.760 just a generation or two and it's game over. You know, 890 00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:11.760 this doesn't gonna take long. So what are your thoughts on, 891 00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:14.880 I mean, how they've been able to get Is it 892 00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:19.119 just through the centralization of the EU and the sort 893 00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:22.519 of socialist structure that Europe has. But it's amazing how 894 00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:27.480 outside of maybe Poland and Hungry, there's not really many 895 00:54:27.559 --> 00:54:31.280 voices in opposition to literally the replacement of their population 896 00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:32.239 and mass immigration. 897 00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:37.639 Well, post World War Two, what the West did was 898 00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:41.400 through the OSS and CIA not just set up like 899 00:54:41.559 --> 00:54:44.880 sort of brainwashing re education stuff for Germans, they also 900 00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:51.000 set up the socialist EU model on purpose as one 901 00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:54.880 of these kind of Fabian institutions, as a kind of 902 00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:57.440 a test run or to try to get you know, 903 00:54:57.519 --> 00:55:01.840 the proto fabian socials world gode going. So when you 904 00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:03.559 look at the EU, that's what you're looking at is 905 00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:06.960 a version of them setting what we're talking about up, 906 00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:11.840 and that includes a lot of media control, a lot 907 00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:15.039 of control of education. Again, like we mentioned in the 908 00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:17.760 case of Germany, it was the CIA that set up 909 00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:22.119 the B and D out of the Galen Organization's network 910 00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:26.840 and there might be some ignorant persons who think would 911 00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:29.920 not be tread and based. No, it's not tread and based. 912 00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:36.920 It's immediately turned into what Western ideology wants to push. 913 00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:41.440 And so you get decades then of these entities controlling 914 00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:46.559 the education system in Europe, controlling the banking in Europe, 915 00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:50.199 such that you could even have that famous banker Peter 916 00:55:50.360 --> 00:55:52.880 Sutherland about ten years ago. I think he's dead now, 917 00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:57.519 but he came out and said it's mainstream news. He said, yes, 918 00:55:57.800 --> 00:56:02.320 as a massive EU banking person, my job is to 919 00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:06.559 destroy the nation states of the European Union and turn 920 00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:10.239 them into one big blob that we can control in 921 00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:14.480 a socialist way. So there it is, right there, just 922 00:56:14.519 --> 00:56:17.000 go repeater sutherland statement on what the purpose of the 923 00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:19.880 U is. And other people have kind of leaked this 924 00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:23.000 stuff out too, even General Wesley Clark, who some people 925 00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:26.239 were big fans of because he was against the Bush 926 00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:28.840 stuff and you know Seven Nations Plan and all that. 927 00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:32.480 But General Wesley Clark famously said that the goal for 928 00:56:32.760 --> 00:56:37.599 NATO was to help destroy European nation states and turn 929 00:56:37.679 --> 00:56:42.039 them into a big socialist blob. That's the goal. So 930 00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:45.480 they were sold under the guise of oh, this will 931 00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:49.840 help us be a more powerful economic union. That was 932 00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:52.920 kind of the selling line that they were giving the 933 00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:56.480 people for the EU through the OSS and what was 934 00:56:56.519 --> 00:57:00.559 called the European Project, the European Steel and Coal Development 935 00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:04.679 of Project. Those are all corporate banking and OSS created 936 00:57:04.719 --> 00:57:08.360 things that help to try to transition Europe into this union. 937 00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:11.199 But it was also acoring to David Rockefeller and his 938 00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:14.400 memoirs planned at Builderberg Soil Bilderberg also played a big 939 00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:17.239 role in creating and planning the EU back in the 940 00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:20.199 forties and fifties. It's not a nineteen ninetiesish thing. It's 941 00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:24.920 actually planned that long ago because they're thinking, you know, 942 00:57:25.039 --> 00:57:31.880 long term about creating these continental unions. World federal socialist 943 00:57:31.920 --> 00:57:33.920 unions is what they are. And then it doesn't matter 944 00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:35.639 whether you have the title of you know, you could 945 00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:40.000 call yourself the Free State of Liberia. Like you're integrated into, right, 946 00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:44.480 a big socialist union. It doesn't matter what what you 947 00:57:44.519 --> 00:57:47.599 call yourself, So they don't have to be called, you know, 948 00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:52.079 the Nation, the Fabian Socialist you know, Committee of Liberia, 949 00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:55.360 like you can call yourself whatever you want. It's integrated 950 00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:58.920 into continental unions, is the plan. And so I think 951 00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:01.639 some people have expressed can in regard to Trump's statements 952 00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:03.400 about Canada and Mexico. 953 00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:07.440 That right, that that is Region three in Agenda twenty one. 954 00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:12.079 And that was my initial response once I heard about Okay, Greenland, 955 00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:14.440 maybe they're going to vote and want to join the US. 956 00:58:14.519 --> 00:58:16.239 And then the next it was like, the next day 957 00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:18.639 after a conversation with Trudeau, is like making them the 958 00:58:18.679 --> 00:58:22.440 fifty first state. And I pulled up the map Agenda 959 00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:24.280 twenty one and that's literally region three. 960 00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:28.320 Yeah, it's I mean, it's it's possible. I don't know 961 00:58:28.360 --> 00:58:32.760 the long term game plan. You know. I doubt that 962 00:58:33.320 --> 00:58:36.000 the Trump administration and the people in the Trump administration 963 00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:39.719 have looked at the stuff we're talking about today this 964 00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:42.159 in depth, because I mean I'm not trying to be 965 00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:46.199 arrogant or you know whatever, but like a lot of this, 966 00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:49.719 like the stuff we're talking about, like that's Brazensky Kissinger 967 00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:52.920 level stuff. This is what they write about, and very 968 00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:57.800 few people read or talk about the Brazensky Kissinger type 969 00:58:57.840 --> 00:58:59.039 of geopolitical stuff. 970 00:58:59.400 --> 00:59:02.400 That's mine for these people to be in positions of 971 00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:04.320 power that they don't read that stuff. 972 00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:07.719 I mean, maybe there's somebody and I don't I don't know. 973 00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:12.760 I mean, I'm sure you know. I mean, Alex knows 974 00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:15.400 this this type of material. You know, he talks to 975 00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:17.000 Roger Stone and Trump and all them. And I mean, 976 00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:19.320 I would imagine Roger Stone knows. I mean, I just 977 00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:21.239 don't know, Like I'm not you know, I don't talk 978 00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:24.039 to the White House. I don't know what. But I 979 00:59:24.039 --> 00:59:27.760 don't hear many people talking about, you know, Kissinger Brazenski 980 00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:30.280 level stuff. And that's what we're talking about today. Is 981 00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:31.440 so I don't know, no. 982 00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:34.440 And I've found even amongst people in some of the 983 00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:37.320 more red you know what the kids call red pill 984 00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:41.320 or based and conspiratorial mindset is as soon as you 985 00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:45.280 bring up this this dialectic between Hamas and Israel and 986 00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:48.320 there and there's literally articles from the Times of Israel 987 00:59:48.360 --> 00:59:52.119 talking about Masad and Israel funding Hamas doing exactly what 988 00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:56.000 we're talking about, this general false dialectic with these intelligence agencies. 989 00:59:56.800 --> 00:59:58.760 And you bring this up to people you know, you 990 00:59:58.840 --> 01:00:02.280 think are pretty re and know what's going on, and 991 01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:04.800 this is like too much for them to fathom that. 992 01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:09.360 You know, why would Israel fun Hamas well? If you 993 01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:12.079 want to you know, well, you can. 994 01:00:11.480 --> 01:00:14.079 Actually read Victor Ostrovsky, the very guy who was in 995 01:00:14.119 --> 01:00:16.920 the massade at the time, and who you know, I'm 996 01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:20.320 pretty sure he talks about knowing Arafat personally. Israel didn't 997 01:00:20.360 --> 01:00:26.559 want the Plouh and the stabilizing secular force. They wanted 998 01:00:27.079 --> 01:00:31.880 the radical position of Hamas because it's a destabilizing force. 999 01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:37.039 They weren't successful, according to Ostrovsky, in getting Arafat on 1000 01:00:38.199 --> 01:00:42.679 anything personal. He lived a very kind of austere basically 1001 01:00:42.760 --> 01:00:45.719 moral life, so they didn't have him go into the 1002 01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:51.239 you know, prostitutes or stealing money, and so they found 1003 01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:55.719 that that mode. And this is in my way of deception. 1004 01:00:55.880 --> 01:00:59.679 Nineteen ninety he doesn't explicitly mention Hamas. He just hints 1005 01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:04.559 that they were wanting to arm and fund rivals to them. 1006 01:01:05.440 --> 01:01:07.639 And then later on in the nineteen ninety four but 1007 01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:10.639 which I just got apparently he does that explicitly mentioned Hamas. 1008 01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:13.079 So so yeah, in the in the nineteen was the 1009 01:01:13.159 --> 01:01:17.159 seventies or whatever, they saw that as At and it's 1010 01:01:17.280 --> 01:01:20.079 it's the same as what the guy just said about Syria. 1011 01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:23.199 He's like, yeah, we would, we would fund an arm 1012 01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:26.559 al Noosra because we would rather have that destabilizing force 1013 01:01:26.840 --> 01:01:31.320 versus asad he's a stabilizing force. So and he even 1014 01:01:31.360 --> 01:01:35.320 says the guy in that Alazeera interview says, that's the 1015 01:01:35.400 --> 01:01:37.639 rules of the game. So what do you mean? So 1016 01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:39.480 this is what is what everybody does. So that's the 1017 01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:43.000 way he plays that plays it in the interview. But yeah, 1018 01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:44.920 if you think about it, this actually makes sense. And 1019 01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:46.920 I'm glad you mentioned that because I just went a 1020 01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:50.119 lot deeper into lots of I didn't know about that 1021 01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:55.199 region and Lebanon and and you know the shield role 1022 01:01:55.239 --> 01:01:57.960 in Lebanon, and it's all really fascinating. There's a really 1023 01:01:57.960 --> 01:02:01.079 good movie from twenty eight team with John Hamm and 1024 01:02:01.159 --> 01:02:04.519 Rosamond Pike called De Rout and I recommend people watch 1025 01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:07.280 that because it's a little bit it's a little Hollywood, 1026 01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:10.280 But what's good about the movie is that it doesn't 1027 01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:14.159 It presents everybody as having their angle and their desires 1028 01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:19.199 in this very tense region of you have Lebanon here, 1029 01:02:19.199 --> 01:02:21.159 and then you have Israel here, so North Israel and 1030 01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:26.079 Lebanon border, right right. Then you have Christians in Lebanon, 1031 01:02:26.159 --> 01:02:30.239 you have Shia in Lebanon, and you have Sunni factions 1032 01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:35.239 in Lebanon. So it's a factionalized country that's also got 1033 01:02:35.239 --> 01:02:38.039 a lot of organized crime groups in Lebanon, and so 1034 01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:41.400 they can't really they're not a real threat to Israel. 1035 01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:46.719 And even in the I think in the eighties the Phalanges, 1036 01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:50.519 who were largely the Maronite Catholic militia, they were actually 1037 01:02:50.960 --> 01:02:55.000 funded donated by the CIA Masad. So it's very complicated 1038 01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:59.039 because the Christians in Lebanon have this alliance with CIA Massad. 1039 01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:03.880 She and Lebanon right are there to suppose to put 1040 01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:06.840 pressure on Israel and be a supposedly a militia or 1041 01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:10.119 a terrorist organization opinion upon how you view them. So 1042 01:03:10.159 --> 01:03:16.159 it's just a really wild complex region. Yeah, and the 1043 01:03:16.280 --> 01:03:19.239 and the Shia don't like Assuni, and the Shia don't 1044 01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:21.760 like didn't like the PLO, so it's right. 1045 01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:25.360 Well, and then with everything that's happened with the undermining 1046 01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:28.639 of the Asad regime and the fall of Syria. One 1047 01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:32.360 of the things that I've been covering some books on 1048 01:03:33.239 --> 01:03:37.280 like eschaeological prophecies from various saints and Saint Paysios and 1049 01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:41.360 various other various other elders of the Church, and one 1050 01:03:41.400 --> 01:03:43.159 of the things that they talked about is we get 1051 01:03:43.199 --> 01:03:46.119 closer towards the end times, is that Turkey is going 1052 01:03:46.159 --> 01:03:48.480 to be an enemy of Russia and it's going to 1053 01:03:48.480 --> 01:03:51.519 be fully aligned with the West. And you know, a 1054 01:03:51.559 --> 01:03:54.280 couple of years ago, I mean, it sounds seemed like 1055 01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:57.239 Russia and Turkey had a pretty good relationship. But what's 1056 01:03:57.360 --> 01:04:00.159 what recently just unfolded in Syria is essentially Turkey, he 1057 01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:03.599 backstabbed Russia, made an agreeance with the West and with 1058 01:04:03.719 --> 01:04:07.559 Israel to basically take the northern portion of Syria. And 1059 01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:10.480 it's I find that very interesting. Is now we can 1060 01:04:10.559 --> 01:04:13.400 kind of see how these how these power factions are 1061 01:04:13.440 --> 01:04:17.039 splitting up, and at least according to some and we 1062 01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:21.760 take you know, eschatology is a difficult subject to discuss, 1063 01:04:21.880 --> 01:04:25.039 but you know, at least the patterns are emerging, and 1064 01:04:25.079 --> 01:04:27.719 it's it's beginning to make a lot more sense on 1065 01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:31.559 how Aerdogon and Turkey and all this posturing that he's 1066 01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:34.960 going to save the Palestinians from Israel and yet he's 1067 01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:37.760 actually making a backdoor deal with Israel. Let's go ahead 1068 01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:40.960 and fund these radical Muslims to take over Syria and 1069 01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:42.880 then we'll just cut it up, and then the US 1070 01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:46.840 takes the Northern Peace where the Kurds are. To your point, 1071 01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:49.440 it's like, well, they have their own faction with the 1072 01:04:49.719 --> 01:04:52.719 military of the Kurds to maintain control there. 1073 01:04:53.320 --> 01:04:55.639 Yeah, I mean it's that one gets really complex, and 1074 01:04:55.679 --> 01:04:57.960 I don't even understand all the ins and outs of 1075 01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:00.320 the Turkish rule and all that, but they because of 1076 01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:06.880 where they're located, a lot of the aid or arms 1077 01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:10.199 has to go through Turkey, right, So for some of 1078 01:05:10.239 --> 01:05:15.599 these places. So I say that because going back to 1079 01:05:16.920 --> 01:05:22.039 twenty fourteen twenty seventeen, we were at that time I 1080 01:05:22.039 --> 01:05:24.159 was writing a lot of articles for twenty first Century 1081 01:05:24.199 --> 01:05:28.800 Wire with Patrick Kenningson, and we were covering I'm trying 1082 01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:30.920 to pull up the map here so we can see 1083 01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:36.960 the No, that doesn't need a bigger map, But we 1084 01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:39.880 were covering this issue because we knew that it was 1085 01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:43.320 obvious that the CIA and obviously Israelis as well as 1086 01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:46.840 British intelligence like they were aiding and funding the Al 1087 01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:50.159 Nusra in Syria to try to get rid of Asad 1088 01:05:50.679 --> 01:05:54.519 and they were calling them the moderate rebels. Right. Well, 1089 01:05:55.119 --> 01:05:57.480 the CFR had put up an article prior to all 1090 01:05:57.519 --> 01:06:06.440 of this. Yeah, there we go. So yeah, So like 1091 01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:10.960 if if weapons, for example, are going to come from 1092 01:06:11.559 --> 01:06:14.960 Iran to Lebanon, right, it needs to go either through 1093 01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:18.679 Turkey or through Syria to reach Lebanon. If they were 1094 01:06:18.679 --> 01:06:20.559 gonna arm, if they were going to arm the Shia, 1095 01:06:21.639 --> 01:06:23.800 or if there was going to be arming of ISIS 1096 01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:27.639 in Syria, Turkey back in the twenty fourteen twenty seventeen 1097 01:06:28.280 --> 01:06:30.679 time period was also helping ISIS in Syria or Al 1098 01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:35.800 Nusra in Syria. So this was being discussed by many outlets, 1099 01:06:36.360 --> 01:06:38.639 and I remember vividly because I was writing articles about it, 1100 01:06:38.679 --> 01:06:41.199 and I was getting called all kinds of names if 1101 01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:43.960 you talked about the CIA or the West or Israel 1102 01:06:44.159 --> 01:06:48.320 arming and helping Al Nusra in Syria. Even though Johnny 1103 01:06:48.400 --> 01:06:50.639 Kane is like meeting with and he's in pictures with 1104 01:06:50.719 --> 01:06:54.119 the freaking Al Qaeda dudes, like you were called crazy, 1105 01:06:54.199 --> 01:06:57.920 you were called insane. It doesn't exist. Well, a few 1106 01:06:57.960 --> 01:07:01.400 months ago, the New York Times just published their gigantic 1107 01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:05.679 front page article on Timber Sycamore. So we actually know 1108 01:07:05.840 --> 01:07:08.639 the name of the twenty fourteen to twenty seventeen one 1109 01:07:08.679 --> 01:07:12.960 billion dollar plan. It was called Timber Sycamore, where they 1110 01:07:13.159 --> 01:07:18.280 armed trained and funded Al Nusra in Syria, right, right, 1111 01:07:19.480 --> 01:07:22.000 So there you go, like we were called I mean, 1112 01:07:22.039 --> 01:07:23.360 I can't tell you many people were like calling me 1113 01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:25.800 names back then. And it's like I've been sharing this, 1114 01:07:25.960 --> 01:07:31.760 Like just look up the you know, the New York Times, 1115 01:07:32.199 --> 01:07:34.599 Timber Sycamore, it'll come up right away as the first first. 1116 01:07:34.480 --> 01:07:37.880 Well, and people were even denying reports after the withdrawal 1117 01:07:37.880 --> 01:07:40.960 from Afghanistan that the US was sending millions of dollars 1118 01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:44.079 to the Taliban. Well, now that's a fact, we know that, 1119 01:07:45.519 --> 01:07:47.719 you know, according to Trump taking office, that's top. But 1120 01:07:47.760 --> 01:07:50.719 it was like upwards between forty to seventy million dollars 1121 01:07:50.760 --> 01:07:54.400 a week the US was sending to the Taliban, who, 1122 01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:57.519 according to them, we had to fight this, you know, 1123 01:07:57.639 --> 01:08:01.840 twenty some year war in Afghanistan what like, it makes 1124 01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:05.039 no sense. But even once that became public knowledge, people 1125 01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:07.719 were still reluctant to even recognize that. 1126 01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:10.840 So that should have been obvious because that goes back 1127 01:08:10.840 --> 01:08:14.360 to nineteen seventy nine where Brazenski came up with the 1128 01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:18.119 plan it's called Operation Cyclone to this is under Carter 1129 01:08:18.399 --> 01:08:23.760 to arm the Mujahadeen freedom fighters in the Soviet Afghanistan conflict, 1130 01:08:24.319 --> 01:08:27.079 and the plan was actually a pretty smart plan because 1131 01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:33.880 it worked. So Operation Cyclone literally was successful in exhausting 1132 01:08:33.920 --> 01:08:39.279 the Soviet force there, and this helped the later collapse 1133 01:08:39.319 --> 01:08:42.319 of the Soviet empire under a few years later in 1134 01:08:42.319 --> 01:08:45.800 the eighties. But had not this been successful, that probably 1135 01:08:45.800 --> 01:08:48.359 wouldn't have happened. But this is where the CIA makes 1136 01:08:48.520 --> 01:08:52.760 its alliance with the Mujahadeen, who are these freedom fighter 1137 01:08:52.920 --> 01:08:58.079 al Qaeda people. They become the drawing pool from which 1138 01:08:58.119 --> 01:09:01.479 we get. 1139 01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:05.520 Right and British intelligence was involved with this as well. Yeah, absolutely, 1140 01:09:06.119 --> 01:09:10.159 so it's it's the same it's the same playbook over 1141 01:09:10.199 --> 01:09:14.119 and over and over, and it's just irritating that people 1142 01:09:14.399 --> 01:09:18.000 because they're so embedded into their emotions and they act 1143 01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:20.680 irrationally whenever you bring up especially Israel here in the 1144 01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:25.399 United States, that people that are often although that Overton 1145 01:09:25.439 --> 01:09:27.199 windows seems to be shifting quite a bit in the 1146 01:09:27.279 --> 01:09:31.840 last two years, but generally speaking, to see these dialectical 1147 01:09:31.880 --> 01:09:37.279 tensions of how radical Islam is a utility of Western 1148 01:09:37.359 --> 01:09:40.800 intelligence agencies to create chaos, destabilization so that they can 1149 01:09:40.840 --> 01:09:44.439 expand power and control. I mean, it's as clear as 1150 01:09:44.520 --> 01:09:47.279 day now. I don't even know how anybody can deny it. 1151 01:09:47.319 --> 01:09:49.960 And this is why. And I'm curious what your opinions 1152 01:09:49.960 --> 01:09:54.479 are on the normalization of Islam in the West as well. 1153 01:09:54.520 --> 01:09:59.399 We see you know, And I'm not here to accuse 1154 01:09:59.439 --> 01:10:02.960 anybody of anything but the Tape Brothers. At least according 1155 01:10:02.960 --> 01:10:06.000 to online there was a massive spike in young men 1156 01:10:06.520 --> 01:10:12.840 looking into Islam during before the Romania allegations, and that 1157 01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:16.399 case was dropped. So I'm not here to accuse anybody 1158 01:10:16.399 --> 01:10:21.439 of anything but Tate. Andrew Tate converted to Islam and 1159 01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:23.319 it was like one of the one of the biggest 1160 01:10:23.319 --> 01:10:26.159 search things in like Western for young men in the 1161 01:10:26.159 --> 01:10:29.319 West was searching up Islam and looking to convert to Islam. 1162 01:10:29.359 --> 01:10:32.720 And it does give them a kind of a coherent 1163 01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:37.359 I mean, it's not totally coherent Islam. It's filled with contradictions, 1164 01:10:37.359 --> 01:10:40.880 but at least some type at least their perception, a worldview, 1165 01:10:40.880 --> 01:10:43.520 an identity where they could get married and have a 1166 01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:47.000 virgin and for some of them appeal to having multiple wives. 1167 01:10:47.079 --> 01:10:53.720 But what are your thoughts on this sort of normalization 1168 01:10:54.520 --> 01:10:58.000 of Islam, And sometimes to the detriment, so people have 1169 01:10:58.039 --> 01:11:01.479 so much animosity towards Israel or who they think are 1170 01:11:01.479 --> 01:11:04.479 controlling the levers of power in the West, that they 1171 01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:08.079 like welcome Islam and we as especially Orthodox christ in 1172 01:11:08.079 --> 01:11:10.279 the history of the Orthodox Church, you know, this is 1173 01:11:10.279 --> 01:11:12.199 a false that you don't choose one or the other. 1174 01:11:13.600 --> 01:11:14.680 What are your thoughts on this. 1175 01:11:14.880 --> 01:11:17.520 I think it's a really important people understand and and 1176 01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:20.199 this is tied into a lot of the right wing reaction. 1177 01:11:20.439 --> 01:11:26.880 They will see, you know, certain countries from the Middle 1178 01:11:26.920 --> 01:11:29.960 East having a lot of influence in America, and then 1179 01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:35.039 they will assume that the alliance with anything Islamic would 1180 01:11:35.039 --> 01:11:37.279 be a natural right wing alliance. I think this is 1181 01:11:37.319 --> 01:11:40.680 really foolish because you have to understand that there's a 1182 01:11:40.680 --> 01:11:43.840 lot of other players and people with a lot of money. 1183 01:11:44.359 --> 01:11:47.159 The Saudi Royal family is a is a big pusher 1184 01:11:47.239 --> 01:11:51.319 for Islam in the West. Other Gulf states do push 1185 01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:54.960 and promote Islam in the West. Uh. And you know 1186 01:11:55.479 --> 01:11:59.319 that's that shouldn't be surprising. I think we should if 1187 01:11:59.359 --> 01:12:04.720 you just think about how nation states in general, how 1188 01:12:04.760 --> 01:12:05.680 they project power. 1189 01:12:06.079 --> 01:12:06.239 Uh. 1190 01:12:07.680 --> 01:12:11.119 It's you know, if you're if you're the king of 1191 01:12:11.199 --> 01:12:13.159 Jordan and you're a hash of mighte and you believe 1192 01:12:13.199 --> 01:12:17.600 your Islamic stuff. You're gonna want people interested in Islam. 1193 01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:20.239 You're gonna desire the promotion, just like we would desire 1194 01:12:20.399 --> 01:12:23.560 Orthodox Christianity everywhere, right right, They're gonna think the same way. 1195 01:12:23.600 --> 01:12:30.479 They're gonna they're gonna want and support and fund Islamic 1196 01:12:30.600 --> 01:12:33.840 endeavors in the West. So we needn't think of it 1197 01:12:33.920 --> 01:12:38.039 as if it's all you know, CIA M I six 1198 01:12:38.199 --> 01:12:43.520 Masade pushing Islam. It doesn't work like that. Those groups will, 1199 01:12:43.600 --> 01:12:49.600 for example, make alliances with whoever they need in any 1200 01:12:49.600 --> 01:12:53.039 of these regions to push whatever will work for them. 1201 01:12:53.439 --> 01:12:56.920 So it's not ideological, it's just pragmatic. It's the key 1202 01:12:56.960 --> 01:12:59.399 point here. So like when the CIA is funding an 1203 01:12:59.479 --> 01:13:02.640 army the most, it's not because they believe in al 1204 01:13:02.680 --> 01:13:06.159 Kaida ideology. It's because that's what's useful in that region 1205 01:13:06.199 --> 01:13:13.239 to fight the Soviets. So likewise, you know, there are 1206 01:13:13.520 --> 01:13:18.640 Islamic nations, Islamic movements, Islamic banking structures that push and 1207 01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:22.359 fund Islam in the West. And it's not all the CIA. 1208 01:13:22.399 --> 01:13:25.880 It's it's like, I mean, I can we drove to 1209 01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:32.119 Vegas some months back and I noticed across America, and 1210 01:13:32.119 --> 01:13:34.079 I've been driving back and forth across America for the 1211 01:13:34.159 --> 01:13:38.640 last seven years more than I ever have mosques you 1212 01:13:38.720 --> 01:13:41.199 seem I saw a mosque on an Indian reservation. 1213 01:13:42.720 --> 01:13:46.079 Wow, I would have thought about that. 1214 01:13:46.479 --> 01:13:49.680 Yeah, So you're absolutely right. There is a push for 1215 01:13:49.840 --> 01:13:53.359 Islam in the West. And that's not all you know, 1216 01:13:54.239 --> 01:13:56.800 Cia or Israel. I mean, there's actual you know, Gulf 1217 01:13:56.880 --> 01:13:58.800 States and Saudis and it. 1218 01:13:58.880 --> 01:14:02.640 And it seems like that is the way that it's 1219 01:14:02.640 --> 01:14:06.680 often presented as an antidote to like Western degeneracy. So 1220 01:14:06.720 --> 01:14:11.159 as as the national cultures of the West are inundated 1221 01:14:11.159 --> 01:14:15.119 with all this debauchery and sexual sin, it's well, now 1222 01:14:15.159 --> 01:14:18.079 you need a militaristic, masculine religion to come in here 1223 01:14:18.119 --> 01:14:21.279 and clean things up. And then it's like, here's Islam. 1224 01:14:21.800 --> 01:14:24.159 And so they present this as the alternative to So 1225 01:14:24.239 --> 01:14:27.239 if you if you hate the left, well then why 1226 01:14:27.279 --> 01:14:29.359 don't you become a Muslim because then you'll be able 1227 01:14:29.359 --> 01:14:31.920 to fight it. And even when I look at and 1228 01:14:31.960 --> 01:14:35.520 I've never been to Britain England. I've been to Ireland 1229 01:14:35.560 --> 01:14:39.319 but never been to England, but just based on articles 1230 01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:42.000 that I've seen, it's like they let the Muslim population 1231 01:14:42.199 --> 01:14:47.880 get away with criticism of the leftist agenda, the sort 1232 01:14:47.920 --> 01:14:51.399 of leftist narrative within England that they don't let the 1233 01:14:51.479 --> 01:14:54.199 average British person say so if you're if you're an 1234 01:14:54.199 --> 01:14:56.840 average British person to criticize it, you're a problem. But 1235 01:14:57.039 --> 01:14:59.760 when entire Muslim communities do it, I oht no problem 1236 01:14:59.800 --> 01:15:03.039 at all. Which take that movement toward. 1237 01:15:02.880 --> 01:15:05.720 It, Yeah, absolutely by design. We went there in twenty 1238 01:15:05.800 --> 01:15:10.520 nineteen and uh, I mean you just like, it's Islamic everywhere. 1239 01:15:11.760 --> 01:15:15.279 I mean it's we were in we were in London 1240 01:15:15.279 --> 01:15:16.520 for a week and then we were out in the 1241 01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:20.399 country at in Milton Kane where I gave a lecture 1242 01:15:20.840 --> 01:15:23.640 for another week. So you know, I got I got 1243 01:15:23.640 --> 01:15:27.399 a week week's worth of London. And you know, it's 1244 01:15:27.439 --> 01:15:30.319 just sad to see what used to it one time 1245 01:15:30.399 --> 01:15:35.000 be you know, a Christian area be so heavily Islamic. 1246 01:15:35.039 --> 01:15:37.560 But it's interesting because you go back to the Middle Ages, 1247 01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:39.760 whether you're in the Roman Catholic West or if you're 1248 01:15:39.760 --> 01:15:42.520 in Byzantium. If you go back to the Middle Ages, 1249 01:15:42.720 --> 01:15:47.439 pretty much every Christian understood that Islam is like chastisement, 1250 01:15:47.960 --> 01:15:50.399 you know what I mean, It's like the divine chastisement 1251 01:15:50.439 --> 01:15:54.600 when you you know, if you turn degenerate, this is 1252 01:15:54.640 --> 01:15:57.840 your chastisement. So it's not that Islam is true, it's 1253 01:15:57.880 --> 01:16:00.960 that you know, well, it's like what scripture says, like, 1254 01:16:01.039 --> 01:16:03.880 you know, if you follow what God says, you'll be strong. 1255 01:16:05.239 --> 01:16:08.920 If you're degenerate, you'll be rolled over, just like he 1256 01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:09.560 told Israel. 1257 01:16:10.359 --> 01:16:14.840 And in that light, even the military conquest of the 1258 01:16:14.880 --> 01:16:18.119 Ottoman Empires. You know, aragon I showed a quote that 1259 01:16:18.159 --> 01:16:20.600 he had. He was talking about the amount of Muslims 1260 01:16:20.640 --> 01:16:23.600 that now exist in Western Europe and he was talking 1261 01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:26.560 about the growth in the building of all these mosques, 1262 01:16:26.960 --> 01:16:28.600 and he said, yeah, this is one of the greatest 1263 01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:34.880 accomplishments in Islamic history. That out of all the military conquests, 1264 01:16:34.880 --> 01:16:38.000 we could have never imagined the influence we now exert 1265 01:16:38.079 --> 01:16:40.680 within Western Europe. And that that was right out of 1266 01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:44.319 the mouth of aragon It's like, so the player, the 1267 01:16:44.319 --> 01:16:47.760 power players in the Muslim world absolutely see this in 1268 01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:51.840 a militaristic framing. They you know, this is not oh 1269 01:16:51.840 --> 01:16:54.520 some of our you know, compatriots are now live in 1270 01:16:54.520 --> 01:16:58.159 Germany and England and France. No, they look at it as, oh, 1271 01:16:58.199 --> 01:17:00.319 this is wonderful. Look at all these young men have there. 1272 01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:01.199 We're going to take it over. 1273 01:17:01.439 --> 01:17:04.439 I mean the mayor is Sadik Khan is a mayor 1274 01:17:04.479 --> 01:17:06.560 of London. I think he's also a Fabian socialist too, 1275 01:17:06.640 --> 01:17:10.159 so so yeah, the Fabian socialist alliance with Islam again 1276 01:17:10.279 --> 01:17:14.600 is over one hundred years old, and that's explicitly to 1277 01:17:14.600 --> 01:17:16.159 totally change the West. 1278 01:17:16.199 --> 01:17:20.399 Are you familiar is Islam pretty sympathetic with socialist ideas. 1279 01:17:20.479 --> 01:17:26.720 I mean so in the Qur'an itself. I think the 1280 01:17:26.720 --> 01:17:29.920 the idea of takiya is over exaggerated. It's not that 1281 01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:33.600 Muslims are like literally told in all these cases to lie. 1282 01:17:33.960 --> 01:17:36.239 But there is a statement in the Koran where it says, 1283 01:17:37.319 --> 01:17:40.800 when you are in the minority, you pretend to be 1284 01:17:41.800 --> 01:17:45.760 the friend and the you know, flexible one. 1285 01:17:46.239 --> 01:17:46.600 Right. 1286 01:17:46.840 --> 01:17:50.039 Then when you're the majority, it's a it's you can 1287 01:17:50.039 --> 01:17:51.000 become militaristic. 1288 01:17:51.760 --> 01:17:52.680 That makes a lot of sense. 1289 01:17:52.760 --> 01:17:55.600 Yeah, yeah, she moon points to that. All. I forget 1290 01:17:55.640 --> 01:17:58.000 the exact reference, but it is there. It's kind of 1291 01:17:58.039 --> 01:17:59.840 early on in the kron. I forget the exact reference, 1292 01:17:59.840 --> 01:18:01.000 but yeah, it says up. 1293 01:18:02.159 --> 01:18:06.199 So, regarding everything that's going on, is there any event 1294 01:18:06.600 --> 01:18:08.800 or region in particular that you kind of have your 1295 01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:13.600 eyes out looking at what I mean, what what are 1296 01:18:13.640 --> 01:18:17.640 kind of your thoughts? Obviously it's speculation, but moving forward, 1297 01:18:20.399 --> 01:18:24.680 your thoughts on Europe with all this mass immigration and 1298 01:18:24.720 --> 01:18:29.079 the negotiations with Israel and Hamas and some of the 1299 01:18:29.159 --> 01:18:32.000 I think Katar is leading the negotiation. They're supposed to 1300 01:18:32.039 --> 01:18:35.239 be like the middleman and creating some type of settlement. 1301 01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:36.319 What are your thoughts on all this? 1302 01:18:37.319 --> 01:18:40.600 A lot of those Gulf states are also long time 1303 01:18:41.039 --> 01:18:44.760 you know, Western CI allies, like the absolutely Tim mac 1304 01:18:44.880 --> 01:18:48.600 Isin even years ago reported on King of Saint of Jordan, 1305 01:18:48.760 --> 01:18:51.359 like he was just bought off by the seat, Like 1306 01:18:51.560 --> 01:18:53.079 all they all they have to do is like basically 1307 01:18:53.119 --> 01:18:54.880 just flying and like bring a chest of goal or 1308 01:18:54.880 --> 01:18:56.279 a bag of money and they just give it to 1309 01:18:56.359 --> 01:18:59.560 these guys so that they're kind of easy to buy off. 1310 01:18:59.600 --> 01:19:03.159 But it's the same with Hamid Karzai in Afghanistan, right, 1311 01:19:03.199 --> 01:19:06.479 that was famously reported on many times that the CIA 1312 01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:10.720 would just bring him duffle bags of money. I mean, 1313 01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:12.560 you know, I just see myself as a student of 1314 01:19:12.560 --> 01:19:14.960 this stuff. I don't even really know where it's going 1315 01:19:15.039 --> 01:19:20.159 or how to project the the you know, what's what's 1316 01:19:20.199 --> 01:19:23.760 going to happen? I mean, I think that you know, 1317 01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:27.800 in the future, we will be contending with more and 1318 01:19:27.880 --> 01:19:33.439 more Islam, which it's just it's I mean, when you 1319 01:19:33.479 --> 01:19:35.720 get into it, it's just so silly, like it's it's 1320 01:19:35.800 --> 01:19:39.840 kind of it's kind of amazing really that people fall 1321 01:19:40.039 --> 01:19:42.920 for it. And I understand, like you're saying, like the 1322 01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:45.640 young dudes are just searching stuff online. They don't know anything, 1323 01:19:45.640 --> 01:19:47.920 and it's like, well, yeah, like what about one God 1324 01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:51.720 versus like the trinities like exactly, I understand if you're 1325 01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:53.960 at that level, you might think, oh, well, this is 1326 01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:55.800 like based in crowd or whatever. Right. 1327 01:19:55.800 --> 01:19:58.479 They always present it as more believable than than the 1328 01:19:58.600 --> 01:19:59.920 Christian worldview. 1329 01:19:59.720 --> 01:20:02.920 And it and it's like people they don't even realize that. 1330 01:20:03.760 --> 01:20:07.000 And like even Sneako more recently has been like did 1331 01:20:07.039 --> 01:20:08.159 you say that clip going around. 1332 01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:10.439 Where he's about he didn't know that he has to. 1333 01:20:12.560 --> 01:20:15.359 It's not just the Kuran and like this basic boildown 1334 01:20:15.359 --> 01:20:19.239 of like simple you gotta believe all the hot eats, dude, right, 1335 01:20:19.319 --> 01:20:22.359 and have the crazy stuff in it, you know what 1336 01:20:22.359 --> 01:20:29.199 I mean, and stuff right literally, So it's just it's 1337 01:20:29.239 --> 01:20:31.000 like a it's like a cult where the people are 1338 01:20:31.039 --> 01:20:33.359 not told like Mormonism, Like they're not told like the 1339 01:20:33.439 --> 01:20:37.039 Inner Right. You know, space sci fi crap until you've 1340 01:20:37.039 --> 01:20:38.000 been in it for a while. 1341 01:20:38.239 --> 01:20:40.520 But and Sneko is a perfect example of somebody who 1342 01:20:40.600 --> 01:20:44.359 uses their Islam as like you know, right wing talking 1343 01:20:44.439 --> 01:20:47.960 points in defense of all this degeneracy here in the West. 1344 01:20:48.359 --> 01:20:50.840 And look how ineffective and weak Christianity is. You know, 1345 01:20:50.880 --> 01:20:52.840 you guys might as well just give it up. I mean, 1346 01:20:52.840 --> 01:20:57.560 I've seen clips of him basically saying that. In other words, 1347 01:20:57.560 --> 01:20:59.800 but you know, you guys are screwed because look how 1348 01:20:59.840 --> 01:21:01.079 in a fact of Christianity is. 1349 01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:03.760 And we can you know, it's hard to you know, 1350 01:21:03.920 --> 01:21:07.479 it's hard to argue with the massive amount of the 1351 01:21:07.560 --> 01:21:11.760 Roman Catholic and Protestant world that is so weak and skittles. Yeah, 1352 01:21:12.840 --> 01:21:16.800 you can see why they think that. But you know, 1353 01:21:16.840 --> 01:21:19.079 a lot of those things are going away. You know, 1354 01:21:19.159 --> 01:21:22.319 for example, in France, I'm pretty sure that like a 1355 01:21:22.319 --> 01:21:26.039 bunch of Roman Catholic cathedrals and monasteries have been bought 1356 01:21:26.039 --> 01:21:30.119 by Orthodox in the last ten twenty years. Oh really, yeah, 1357 01:21:31.319 --> 01:21:35.520 gat So like as the Roman Catholics are dying out 1358 01:21:35.640 --> 01:21:38.159 and you know, selling off their churches to pay all 1359 01:21:38.199 --> 01:21:44.159 their PDF bills for their you know you know I'm 1360 01:21:44.159 --> 01:21:47.000 talking about, Yeah, as they're paying their you know, sex 1361 01:21:47.039 --> 01:21:51.960 scandal bills and lawsuits. They're having to sell cathedrals in 1362 01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:55.880 the shutdown entire like churches and dioceses they've been doing 1363 01:21:55.880 --> 01:21:57.439 an America too, they have to sell it off. So 1364 01:21:58.359 --> 01:22:02.119 Orthodoxy's growing, you know, those things are dying out, and 1365 01:22:02.159 --> 01:22:04.000 that's you know, when you adopt those kind of like 1366 01:22:04.880 --> 01:22:08.479 sterile ideologies like a lot of these woke Protestant churches have. 1367 01:22:09.119 --> 01:22:12.720 I mean, you're basically sealing your doom and ending your 1368 01:22:12.760 --> 01:22:16.199 denomination in the next few decades, right, So those won't 1369 01:22:16.199 --> 01:22:20.359 be exist anymore. There won't be Methodists, Lutheran mainline Protestant 1370 01:22:20.439 --> 01:22:22.199 churches anymore. They're going to be Presbyterian. They're going to 1371 01:22:22.279 --> 01:22:25.159 die out, and so it will be uh, you know, 1372 01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:29.880 if tragcat stuff still exists, maybe that maybe some versions 1373 01:22:29.920 --> 01:22:33.199 of Calvinism and Orthodoxy is all there is. Right. 1374 01:22:33.560 --> 01:22:36.880 What are your thoughts on the way that Russia has 1375 01:22:36.920 --> 01:22:41.439 handled their Muslim population, because it seems like they've at 1376 01:22:41.520 --> 01:22:44.880 least maybe again, I'm no expert on this I'm curious 1377 01:22:44.920 --> 01:22:46.560 what your thoughts are, but it seems like they've made 1378 01:22:46.560 --> 01:22:52.239 an explicit recognition that Russia is Orthodox, at least to 1379 01:22:52.279 --> 01:22:57.239 some degree. But then the Muslim communities, the chechen Ins, 1380 01:22:57.279 --> 01:23:00.640 you know, all those different they can maintain their Islamic 1381 01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:03.760 identity under a sort of larger Russian banner, and. 1382 01:23:03.960 --> 01:23:06.680 Yew, there's some kind of recognition of this idea of 1383 01:23:09.560 --> 01:23:14.000 some kind of quote, you know, traditionalism that's broad enough 1384 01:23:14.039 --> 01:23:17.239 to encapsulate Islam, because I think there's like a million 1385 01:23:17.319 --> 01:23:21.239 Muslims in Moscow, right, so, you know, it's unfortunate. I 1386 01:23:21.279 --> 01:23:25.640 don't like that at all, but you know, I guess 1387 01:23:25.680 --> 01:23:28.640 it's just another it's a situation where maybe pragmatically, they're 1388 01:23:28.680 --> 01:23:29.399 forced to do it. 1389 01:23:31.600 --> 01:23:36.039 But I wrote one article that Putin spoke explicitly about 1390 01:23:37.039 --> 01:23:40.800 Slavic people's need to have three to four children per 1391 01:23:41.840 --> 01:23:44.840 because they're being you know, they're yeah, they're being out 1392 01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:48.119 populated by the smaller Muslim communities in southern Russia. 1393 01:23:49.640 --> 01:23:51.840 Yeah. I have heard that too. And you know, so 1394 01:23:51.880 --> 01:23:55.279 we see a lot of good statements. Hey, Jamie, good news, 1395 01:23:55.319 --> 01:24:04.119 Mamy expresso, thank you. You know, maybe as the world 1396 01:24:04.359 --> 01:24:08.439 continues to wake up to Orthodoxy. Again, one of the 1397 01:24:08.479 --> 01:24:10.720 great things has people been pointing out, like the Internet, 1398 01:24:11.279 --> 01:24:15.960 the Internet's been pretty bad for Islam. Yeah, it's like it's. 1399 01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:17.119 Been great for Orthodoxy. 1400 01:24:17.399 --> 01:24:20.159 Yeah, Like, and it might it might be the case 1401 01:24:20.199 --> 01:24:22.079 that you know, early on a lot of idiot twenty 1402 01:24:22.119 --> 01:24:25.159 year old dudes maybe search it out. But like, you know, 1403 01:24:25.239 --> 01:24:27.880 we just had that debate with Shamoon on Fresh and 1404 01:24:27.920 --> 01:24:30.239 Fit a few months ago that three to four million people. 1405 01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:33.479 You read the comments and it's like fifty thousand comments, 1406 01:24:34.359 --> 01:24:37.800 ninety nine percent saying that you know, Islam is not 1407 01:24:38.239 --> 01:24:41.439 doing well on the internet, right, So you know, they 1408 01:24:41.520 --> 01:24:44.680 might have a lot of money to put into propaganda, 1409 01:24:46.319 --> 01:24:51.439 but I don't think that. It's just it's kind of 1410 01:24:51.479 --> 01:24:55.000 foreign to the West and the only way it can 1411 01:24:55.119 --> 01:24:57.000 can see it in the West is when they import 1412 01:24:57.039 --> 01:25:00.880 foreign peoples to the West. Right, So the more that 1413 01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:05.680 we stop, you know, the open border nonsense, perhaps that 1414 01:25:05.720 --> 01:25:09.199 would help to stem the tide of the of the 1415 01:25:09.840 --> 01:25:11.680 lunacy of this crazy cult. 1416 01:25:12.760 --> 01:25:16.000 Last question before we get into super chats. Kind of 1417 01:25:16.000 --> 01:25:19.159 a bit of a diversion, but what are your thoughts 1418 01:25:19.359 --> 01:25:22.439 on we were talking and we've talked about the intelligence agencies, 1419 01:25:22.479 --> 01:25:27.800 the utilization of Islam. Uh, these false dialectics, And I'm 1420 01:25:27.840 --> 01:25:33.000 curious what your thoughts are with the Trump administration. We're 1421 01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:35.560 supposed to get some of the Epstein files that was 1422 01:25:35.600 --> 01:25:39.439 a food gays operation there. They had some influencers come 1423 01:25:39.439 --> 01:25:41.479 out with a binder of everything that was publicly avail. 1424 01:25:41.720 --> 01:25:44.159 Yeah, I don't know. We may still got them. I 1425 01:25:44.199 --> 01:25:45.199 may not. Maybe, I don't know. 1426 01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:48.560 Yeah, they did release the JFK files. But do you 1427 01:25:49.359 --> 01:25:54.159 I'm curious in your geopolitical analysis, what do you see 1428 01:25:55.600 --> 01:25:59.960 happening with this Trump administration. In my perspective, it looked 1429 01:26:00.279 --> 01:26:04.319 like it's sort of domestic policies that are gonna maybe 1430 01:26:04.720 --> 01:26:06.840 hurt in the short term with tariffs and all this stuff, 1431 01:26:06.840 --> 01:26:09.159 but he's going to be good long term beneficially for 1432 01:26:09.359 --> 01:26:12.119 like an economic engine. But it feels like this is 1433 01:26:12.159 --> 01:26:15.000 totally tight at the hip with Zionism, and that Christian 1434 01:26:15.079 --> 01:26:20.000 Zionism specifically is now like the official voice of Christianity 1435 01:26:20.000 --> 01:26:24.960 in America with Pastor PAULA. White heading the Faith Office 1436 01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:28.680 in the White House, and we have Hegsath talking about 1437 01:26:28.680 --> 01:26:31.439 how he wants to rebuild the Third Temple, and so 1438 01:26:31.720 --> 01:26:34.319 within the Trump administration, we have all these Christian Zionists 1439 01:26:34.359 --> 01:26:36.000 that are sort of accelerationists. 1440 01:26:36.520 --> 01:26:42.479 It's because you know, the JFK files do contain many 1441 01:26:42.520 --> 01:26:47.199 things that implicate certain Middle Eastern countries, which I've been 1442 01:26:47.239 --> 01:26:49.520 talking about who last week, and I did not expect 1443 01:26:49.560 --> 01:26:53.840 that to be there. So you know why or what's 1444 01:26:53.880 --> 01:26:57.199 going on, I don't know, but you know, you do 1445 01:26:57.279 --> 01:27:01.760 have people who have talked about that, like Roger Stone, 1446 01:27:01.960 --> 01:27:06.079 very close to Trump. Yeah, and I'm not saying that 1447 01:27:06.119 --> 01:27:08.720 I grew with everything that these people, you know, argue 1448 01:27:08.840 --> 01:27:11.680 or say, it's just these are these are the facts. 1449 01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:14.720 And that was a very controversial thesis, you know, put 1450 01:27:14.760 --> 01:27:17.920 out by Michael Collins Piper twenty years ago in his book. 1451 01:27:18.800 --> 01:27:21.439 I read it at the time, and you know, you 1452 01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:24.399 just couldn't even talk about that for a long time. 1453 01:27:24.439 --> 01:27:26.720 So I'm surprised to see that there is, particularly in 1454 01:27:26.720 --> 01:27:31.039 regard to all the stuff about James Jesus Angleton, who 1455 01:27:31.159 --> 01:27:33.640 was a mega you know, Israeli a file. He was 1456 01:27:33.720 --> 01:27:36.159 the CIA station chief in Rome for a long time, 1457 01:27:36.159 --> 01:27:40.439 and then he became a. 1458 01:27:39.119 --> 01:27:42.640 More of the mediator between Israeli intelligence and US intelligence. 1459 01:27:42.680 --> 01:27:45.319 So everything again, people who knew that and talked about 1460 01:27:45.359 --> 01:27:48.680 that for the last twenty years you were very I mean, 1461 01:27:48.720 --> 01:27:51.079 his role with being pro Israel was public, but this 1462 01:27:51.159 --> 01:27:55.760 idea of a back channel was theory. And if you 1463 01:27:55.800 --> 01:28:00.640 talked about that, I mean, you would be derided, to 1464 01:28:00.680 --> 01:28:02.800 say the least. I mean you know what I mean. 1465 01:28:02.760 --> 01:28:06.640 Like you have do you have any hope that there 1466 01:28:06.760 --> 01:28:09.760 is a you know, quote unquote it's being repackaged as 1467 01:28:09.800 --> 01:28:13.840 sort of a regime change in Washington. I feel pretty 1468 01:28:13.840 --> 01:28:17.920 skeptical about it. Is it just yet to be seen? 1469 01:28:17.960 --> 01:28:21.479 What are your do you feel like there's you know, 1470 01:28:21.640 --> 01:28:24.199 is there a sort of regime change or is the 1471 01:28:24.199 --> 01:28:29.359 the the again, this this deeper higher Anglo American establishment, 1472 01:28:29.439 --> 01:28:32.479 is it still behind the wheel? Even you know, Trump 1473 01:28:32.560 --> 01:28:34.640 can do all his the stuff that he wants to 1474 01:28:34.680 --> 01:28:38.760 do or or you know, domestic policy stuff like that 1475 01:28:39.159 --> 01:28:42.880 economic stuff, but the ship's moving in the same direction. 1476 01:28:44.199 --> 01:28:48.359 There is some degree of opposition from you know, the 1477 01:28:48.399 --> 01:28:53.039 administration because you know, all these people, what does is 1478 01:28:53.119 --> 01:28:56.880 talking about and uncovering like all this you know JFK files, 1479 01:28:56.920 --> 01:28:59.399 Like I feel like we if we got the JFK 1480 01:28:59.479 --> 01:29:01.359 falls a film like we probably will get the jeff 1481 01:29:01.359 --> 01:29:05.680 Stein mcaffree files. You know, maybe they won't be too reducted. 1482 01:29:05.720 --> 01:29:09.920 I guess we'll see, but there's definitely a real awakening 1483 01:29:10.159 --> 01:29:13.239 in the country. It's always hard to say in terms 1484 01:29:13.279 --> 01:29:17.840 of the administration, uh itself. I don't I don't follow 1485 01:29:17.880 --> 01:29:19.199 a lot of the day to day stuff because I'm 1486 01:29:19.239 --> 01:29:21.199 usually trying to focus on the more you know, meta 1487 01:29:21.359 --> 01:29:25.279 political stuff and the geopolitics. But uh, I think good 1488 01:29:25.279 --> 01:29:28.039 things are happening. I like, I try to be positive 1489 01:29:28.039 --> 01:29:30.800 about those things. You know. One thing I keep saying 1490 01:29:30.920 --> 01:29:35.199 is we've been under such intense mind control for so 1491 01:29:35.279 --> 01:29:39.880 many decades and so much mainstreaming of brainwashing and just nonsense. 1492 01:29:41.159 --> 01:29:43.840 It's not all going to be fixed in one administration, 1493 01:29:44.319 --> 01:29:46.000 you know what I mean, Like, we're gonna be We're 1494 01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:49.880 going to be crawling out of this mess for decades. 1495 01:29:50.920 --> 01:29:55.319 But we're seeing a lot of I look, we're seeing 1496 01:29:55.319 --> 01:29:58.239 a lot more good things than I would have ever happen. 1497 01:29:58.479 --> 01:30:00.199 Even as that as some of this of. 1498 01:30:00.159 --> 01:30:03.680 Those and in regarding that false dialectic, one of the 1499 01:30:03.720 --> 01:30:06.520 things that I'm sure you would agree with this You've 1500 01:30:06.600 --> 01:30:10.560 talked about it, but with this uh sort of valorization 1501 01:30:10.640 --> 01:30:15.000 of Elon Musk. Not that I'm not against dog, I 1502 01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:19.079 think it's fantastic find you know, finding all this corruption USAI, 1503 01:30:19.199 --> 01:30:23.520 d all that stuff is fantastic. But I was speaking 1504 01:30:23.560 --> 01:30:27.640 with an Orthodox Christian and they were talking about how 1505 01:30:27.680 --> 01:30:30.119 great Musk is and thinking, man, I wonder if he's 1506 01:30:30.159 --> 01:30:33.560 going to become Christian. I'm like, dude, no, Like you 1507 01:30:33.640 --> 01:30:38.159 realize that creating a more efficient and robust America for 1508 01:30:38.279 --> 01:30:41.239 his domestic production and in creating, I mean, he is 1509 01:30:41.279 --> 01:30:46.239 a transhumanist. He is one world order figure. I mean, 1510 01:30:46.279 --> 01:30:48.920 he spoke openly about this, and he speaks you know, 1511 01:30:48.960 --> 01:30:51.880 in one in one article, he'll say that we're summoning 1512 01:30:52.279 --> 01:30:55.399 the demons through the AI, and then literally in this 1513 01:30:55.560 --> 01:30:57.319 in the next paragraph will say, well, the only way 1514 01:30:57.319 --> 01:30:58.920 to stop it then is we have to fuse with 1515 01:30:59.000 --> 01:31:01.439 it so that we can control the AI from within 1516 01:31:01.560 --> 01:31:04.199 or something. So you look at all these corporations that 1517 01:31:04.279 --> 01:31:06.920 he's been creating in the last like two or three years, 1518 01:31:06.960 --> 01:31:11.720 it's all at the technocracy. It's all for a global technocracy. 1519 01:31:12.439 --> 01:31:16.960 And so I just find that really interesting that here's 1520 01:31:17.000 --> 01:31:19.279 so many people that are happy that he's supporting Trump 1521 01:31:19.319 --> 01:31:22.119 and he's MAGA, and it's like, well, multiple things can 1522 01:31:22.159 --> 01:31:24.880 be true. He can be cutting fraud and abuse and 1523 01:31:24.920 --> 01:31:27.560 making the US government more efficient. But the reasons why 1524 01:31:27.600 --> 01:31:29.920 he's doing this is for a goal in twenty to 1525 01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:33.199 thirty years for what he's going to have in place 1526 01:31:34.199 --> 01:31:37.279 and the economic engine that's going to be behind it. 1527 01:31:37.399 --> 01:31:40.760 And I've found that a lot of people aren't seeing. 1528 01:31:40.920 --> 01:31:43.199 Yeah, I mean, he's definitely a wild card. I don't 1529 01:31:44.239 --> 01:31:46.680 I try to remain detached and you know, just look 1530 01:31:46.720 --> 01:31:51.560 at what's happening, and I hope for the best. I mean, 1531 01:31:51.720 --> 01:31:56.399 I don't know exactly where he's He's just a wild card. 1532 01:31:56.520 --> 01:31:58.039 I don't even know how to read him because it's like, 1533 01:31:58.079 --> 01:32:00.239 you see this, we'll do this, and it's seen, was 1534 01:32:00.239 --> 01:32:02.239 like really based, then we'll do this other thing. It's like, 1535 01:32:02.239 --> 01:32:05.439 well is he does? It's just kind of like it's 1536 01:32:05.479 --> 01:32:07.960 in coherent. I don't really understand what's going on. And 1537 01:32:10.239 --> 01:32:12.960 but I do think that if you you know, if 1538 01:32:12.960 --> 01:32:15.199 you want to keep it to the most positive possible 1539 01:32:16.199 --> 01:32:18.840 like attitude, that we could have. You know, Jacques Attali 1540 01:32:18.920 --> 01:32:22.000 in his book, you know he's mega globalist, he says 1541 01:32:22.079 --> 01:32:24.119 in his two thousand and six book Brief History of 1542 01:32:24.119 --> 01:32:28.359 the Future, he says, as globalists, we must be concerned 1543 01:32:28.600 --> 01:32:35.199 that that America does not get into real Christianity. He 1544 01:32:35.239 --> 01:32:38.159 actually sayes that. He says because the major threat that 1545 01:32:38.199 --> 01:32:42.960 we could experience to our hegemony would be a revival 1546 01:32:43.159 --> 01:32:46.840 of some kind of what he calls this his words, 1547 01:32:46.840 --> 01:32:51.239 theocracy in America, and he says that there could be 1548 01:32:51.319 --> 01:32:55.520 a reaction against what we do in America turning to 1549 01:32:55.640 --> 01:32:59.520 a theocracy, which means we must guard against. So even 1550 01:32:59.520 --> 01:33:03.199 the global leats are concerned and worried that the religious 1551 01:33:03.279 --> 01:33:08.199 right might make power moves. And I'm not saying that, 1552 01:33:08.239 --> 01:33:09.840 I mean, that's not really doesn't really have anything to 1553 01:33:09.880 --> 01:33:13.199 do directly with Musk. But if you're talking twenty thirty 1554 01:33:13.199 --> 01:33:16.159 forty years in the future, like I mean, Elon Musk 1555 01:33:16.199 --> 01:33:18.359 might not be around by then, you have a next 1556 01:33:18.399 --> 01:33:22.600 generation if Christianity, Orthodox Christianity grows, I mean, you could 1557 01:33:22.600 --> 01:33:27.079 have an Orthodox Christian American empire. That's like technologically, you 1558 01:33:27.079 --> 01:33:29.520 know what I mean. Like I'm not trying to be 1559 01:33:29.760 --> 01:33:33.119 overly optimistic and silly about it or today. 1560 01:33:33.279 --> 01:33:36.399 I mean, well, Saint Paisi with multiple saints regarding eschatology, 1561 01:33:36.439 --> 01:33:39.399 believe that at least in their in their framework, and 1562 01:33:39.439 --> 01:33:43.840 this is from saints from specifically Russia, Romania and Greece 1563 01:33:44.760 --> 01:33:47.159 is that there'll be a great World war and then 1564 01:33:47.640 --> 01:33:49.920 Orthodoxy is going to go through a golden age, right, 1565 01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:52.840 and that it's gonna it's gonna have massive explosion around 1566 01:33:52.840 --> 01:33:55.680 the world, and that this is the prerequisite before an 1567 01:33:55.760 --> 01:33:57.640 actual Antichrist or anything like that. 1568 01:33:57.640 --> 01:34:00.800 That there that would fulfill post millennial in my view, 1569 01:34:00.920 --> 01:34:03.840 which I've always been post mill but I know that 1570 01:34:03.920 --> 01:34:06.119 some people are all mill I think in Orthodoxy you 1571 01:34:06.119 --> 01:34:08.960 can be either one. But if that was the case, 1572 01:34:09.000 --> 01:34:12.800 that that would fulfill that right. Well, the idea of 1573 01:34:12.880 --> 01:34:17.399 a mass you know, orthodox conversion of the world right. 1574 01:34:17.720 --> 01:34:19.840 Which which would make a lot of sense. And one 1575 01:34:19.840 --> 01:34:23.039 of the things we've already seen these hit pieces from 1576 01:34:23.079 --> 01:34:25.199 like the New York Posts and stuff kind of characterized 1577 01:34:25.199 --> 01:34:28.640 this massive growth in Orthodoxy here within the last since 1578 01:34:28.680 --> 01:34:32.159 twenty twenty so within now the last five years, as 1579 01:34:32.199 --> 01:34:36.119 something nefarious. Young men searching for identity. Right, these people 1580 01:34:36.159 --> 01:34:36.880 are so. 1581 01:34:36.960 --> 01:34:39.319 Bad, wanting to have a family and wanting to be 1582 01:34:39.399 --> 01:34:41.359 moral and wanted to work out and go to church. 1583 01:34:41.399 --> 01:34:42.800 It's so bad, right. 1584 01:34:42.920 --> 01:34:49.680 Right, But I could see potentially that growth leading to 1585 01:34:49.960 --> 01:34:53.920 You've talked about Operation Gladio, and you know, Glowe's I've 1586 01:34:53.960 --> 01:34:56.720 talked with Orthodox people that believe like there's been some 1587 01:34:56.760 --> 01:35:00.000 strange people that have come to services that they weren't no, yeah, 1588 01:35:00.560 --> 01:35:03.199 or kind of you know, and trying to keep track 1589 01:35:04.000 --> 01:35:07.600 on this and potentially if if you know, as Father 1590 01:35:07.640 --> 01:35:10.039 Turbo Qull says, you can't be a Zionist and be 1591 01:35:10.079 --> 01:35:13.439 an Orthodox Christian based on some of the things that 1592 01:35:13.439 --> 01:35:16.560 have come out from the papacy and the general growth 1593 01:35:16.600 --> 01:35:20.319 of Christian Zionism and Protestantism, I could see a future 1594 01:35:20.359 --> 01:35:24.640 where we're the only one that aren't like Zionists, and 1595 01:35:24.760 --> 01:35:28.560 that could be used as a sort of threat to 1596 01:35:28.640 --> 01:35:32.760 the establishment to some sort. But obviously it's not going 1597 01:35:32.840 --> 01:35:35.880 to win in the end, because according to at least 1598 01:35:35.880 --> 01:35:37.319 all the saints in the Elders, there's going to be 1599 01:35:37.319 --> 01:35:40.119 a massive golden age of Orthodoxy. And I've took with 1600 01:35:40.199 --> 01:35:43.039 multiple priests on this channel and they believe what we're 1601 01:35:43.039 --> 01:35:45.920 witnessing now is just like the beginning of this process. 1602 01:35:47.680 --> 01:35:51.560 So yeah, I mean, I hope so, and yeah, that's 1603 01:35:51.560 --> 01:35:53.960 definitely possible that you could have some sort of a 1604 01:35:55.279 --> 01:35:58.439 you know, reaction where where Christianity and America ends up 1605 01:35:58.479 --> 01:36:01.000 split between you know, or the our Christianity and then 1606 01:36:01.079 --> 01:36:04.279 some sort of weird But but the thing is that 1607 01:36:05.399 --> 01:36:07.479 one reason I wouldn't be too concerned with that right 1608 01:36:07.520 --> 01:36:12.039 away would be, you know, the Catholic version of their 1609 01:36:12.279 --> 01:36:21.840 novis orto weird statements about I guess certain groups. It's 1610 01:36:22.199 --> 01:36:28.199 even that's not like, that's pretty divorced still from like 1611 01:36:28.279 --> 01:36:32.920 the evangelical dispensationalist attitude. And so I don't know that 1612 01:36:32.920 --> 01:36:35.119 that you could link, like, I don't think those groups 1613 01:36:35.159 --> 01:36:37.880 would would match too well. They would that wouldn't be 1614 01:36:37.920 --> 01:36:38.720 a very I mean. 1615 01:36:40.960 --> 01:36:43.199 Patriot or something like claim to be a Catholic. 1616 01:36:43.279 --> 01:36:47.279 Didn't even know that, But I mean, I just I 1617 01:36:47.279 --> 01:36:50.520 can't really see like John Hagy and all of his crew, like, 1618 01:36:51.319 --> 01:36:55.079 you know, with a bunch of Roman Catholics. It just 1619 01:36:55.119 --> 01:36:57.319 doesn't seem that doesn't seem like that would work too well. 1620 01:36:57.960 --> 01:37:00.960 But you know, who knows, only thirty forty years, a 1621 01:37:00.960 --> 01:37:03.720 lot of these entities might not even exist anymore. They 1622 01:37:03.800 --> 01:37:06.920 might just literally just die out with no new converts. 1623 01:37:07.479 --> 01:37:12.359 I suspect Protestantism will for all intentsive purposes die out 1624 01:37:12.359 --> 01:37:15.680 within the next century. I can't I just cannot see 1625 01:37:15.680 --> 01:37:18.840 how that's going to survive. It brings very little to 1626 01:37:18.880 --> 01:37:23.000 the table in regards to sacraments, mysticism, well. 1627 01:37:22.760 --> 01:37:26.079 Also sterility, like you're not going to have young families. 1628 01:37:26.279 --> 01:37:31.039 Yeah, it's the old oldest cohorts of Sunday attendees. I 1629 01:37:31.039 --> 01:37:34.960 did a stream. It was like in America it was Buddhist, Hindus, 1630 01:37:35.199 --> 01:37:38.079 Orthodox Christians and Muslims were like the only group that 1631 01:37:38.159 --> 01:37:40.279 the average attendee was below the age of forty. 1632 01:37:40.880 --> 01:37:47.880 Oh wow, yeah, so yeah, nobody under forty wants these dead, 1633 01:37:48.239 --> 01:37:52.239 sterile Protestant churches which are like hanging giant you know, 1634 01:37:52.399 --> 01:37:56.640 rainbow and BLM banners everywhere that nobody wants that. 1635 01:37:58.680 --> 01:38:02.399 Rough Hands renewed his membership for twenty three months, says epic, 1636 01:38:02.439 --> 01:38:05.640 comeback stream duo, let's go. Thank you very much, Rough Hands. 1637 01:38:05.760 --> 01:38:08.000 Shout out to Sarah from Goose for becoming a member. 1638 01:38:08.079 --> 01:38:11.159 Shout out to hauling the Goods for becoming a member. 1639 01:38:11.800 --> 01:38:14.279 Shout out to h Brassey for renewing his membership. Jay 1640 01:38:14.279 --> 01:38:18.000 and Codle doing the deed, No Diddy, it's cracking. Thank 1641 01:38:18.039 --> 01:38:18.680 you very much. 1642 01:38:18.840 --> 01:38:19.800 I got a question for you. 1643 01:38:20.159 --> 01:38:20.640 What's up? 1644 01:38:21.760 --> 01:38:23.520 So I'm gonna do a stream tonight. It was gonna 1645 01:38:23.520 --> 01:38:25.479 be earlier before, but I forgot I had to do 1646 01:38:25.520 --> 01:38:28.800 an interview with John Heares today, so I moved tonight's 1647 01:38:30.359 --> 01:38:33.880 Geza Pyramids stuff. Everybody's talking about the Giza Pyramids and 1648 01:38:33.880 --> 01:38:36.079 the columns and all that. Now you get a stream 1649 01:38:36.199 --> 01:38:39.760 about go Beckley tepee and did you make it members 1650 01:38:39.840 --> 01:38:40.800 or something? I can't find it. 1651 01:38:41.600 --> 01:38:44.800 Uh no, it shouldn't have been. I think it's still 1652 01:38:44.800 --> 01:38:45.720 on the channel. 1653 01:38:46.199 --> 01:38:48.079 Because I tried to search it. I couldn't find it. 1654 01:38:48.520 --> 01:38:51.439 Maybe it's title something different, but yeah, I'll love I 1655 01:38:51.439 --> 01:38:53.640 want because I know in your stream you talked about 1656 01:38:53.640 --> 01:38:55.920 how there's not really any evidence of this being made 1657 01:38:55.960 --> 01:38:59.159 by tech or whatever. It could just be human. I 1658 01:38:59.520 --> 01:39:02.039 think that's what your argument. Yeah, yeah, I wanted to. 1659 01:39:02.119 --> 01:39:04.640 I wanted to clip that and talk about that on 1660 01:39:04.640 --> 01:39:08.359 tonight's stream. But tonight I'm gonna be talking about the 1661 01:39:08.439 --> 01:39:11.960 claims about the pyramid, what the evidence may or may 1662 01:39:11.960 --> 01:39:14.640 not suggest. I'll also be talking about some of these 1663 01:39:14.720 --> 01:39:17.840 other megaliths and ancivilizations and this kind of stuff, because 1664 01:39:18.239 --> 01:39:20.720 I haven't talked about that in probably five or six years. 1665 01:39:21.159 --> 01:39:25.239 What are your thoughts on the on the Geeze pyramid findings. 1666 01:39:25.800 --> 01:39:29.760 It's interesting I can. I still can't discern how legitimate 1667 01:39:29.920 --> 01:39:34.399 the claims of the underground tunnel things are because I 1668 01:39:34.479 --> 01:39:36.760 keep getting conflicting data. I've looked at it for like 1669 01:39:36.800 --> 01:39:41.880 two days straight, and Grock keeps contradicting on it. I 1670 01:39:42.399 --> 01:39:47.479 can't tell whether that's just while conjecture or if it's 1671 01:39:47.520 --> 01:39:51.640 actually there. So it's not in the original paper. But 1672 01:39:51.800 --> 01:39:54.359 now suppose that the same people from that paper have 1673 01:39:54.479 --> 01:39:56.760 a new paper which is not yet peer review, but 1674 01:39:56.800 --> 01:40:02.640 they're making these claims. So if it's true, it would 1675 01:40:02.720 --> 01:40:07.760 suggest totally different history of that region and maybe even 1676 01:40:07.840 --> 01:40:12.039 like Nefhelm type stuff if it's true. But it may 1677 01:40:12.079 --> 01:40:15.199 not be true. So have you looked at it at all? 1678 01:40:15.439 --> 01:40:17.359 I've been looking at it a little bit, but like you, 1679 01:40:17.439 --> 01:40:21.039 I got just in my cursory search. This was a 1680 01:40:21.079 --> 01:40:22.760 couple of days ago. I started to see that there 1681 01:40:22.840 --> 01:40:26.000 was a few exaggerations from what I was seeing by 1682 01:40:26.000 --> 01:40:29.640 people online about it, okay, and they were, you know, 1683 01:40:29.800 --> 01:40:32.439 they were a little bit more conspiratorial. So they immediately 1684 01:40:32.479 --> 01:40:38.760 went to Graham Hancock law, civilization, ancient technology, that type 1685 01:40:38.760 --> 01:40:43.000 of worldview, and it leads at least from them. What 1686 01:40:43.039 --> 01:40:45.279 I'm hearing is the narrative that it leads credence to 1687 01:40:45.439 --> 01:40:49.079 like the pyramids being like pyramids of energy, and that 1688 01:40:49.199 --> 01:40:52.159 the you know these coils that are amongst. 1689 01:40:51.760 --> 01:40:55.760 These Yeah, that's like it's a giant battery or something. 1690 01:40:55.760 --> 01:40:58.720 I don't know all that, but like if there's structures, 1691 01:40:58.960 --> 01:41:02.000 I mean, that could suggest just you know, just a 1692 01:41:02.000 --> 01:41:05.079 whole other underground city or yeah. 1693 01:41:05.720 --> 01:41:08.359 And and that's where I've I've done streams on like 1694 01:41:08.399 --> 01:41:12.880 ancient aliens and stuff like that, and you know, I 1695 01:41:13.199 --> 01:41:16.479 think that there's a lot of natural explanations. I think 1696 01:41:16.479 --> 01:41:19.680 that the the ancients weren't as totally ignorant as we 1697 01:41:19.800 --> 01:41:22.800 think they are, right, and if we watched the ind 1698 01:41:22.920 --> 01:41:25.359 I think that they thought in such a larger time frame. 1699 01:41:25.439 --> 01:41:27.520 And we think of building a pyramid, we like expect 1700 01:41:27.560 --> 01:41:30.039 it to be done within two years, like we have 1701 01:41:30.119 --> 01:41:33.439 the you know, these people are thinking in generations, and so. 1702 01:41:34.000 --> 01:41:36.319 They would think about cathedral building for one hundred. 1703 01:41:36.159 --> 01:41:40.640 Years exactly, and that's medieval, that's you know, so we're 1704 01:41:40.640 --> 01:41:46.960 talking ancient period. So but you know, what, do you feel, 1705 01:41:47.039 --> 01:41:52.279 like Graham Hancock sort of if let's just speculate if 1706 01:41:52.880 --> 01:41:55.920 there's this sort of redating because everybody wants to go 1707 01:41:56.039 --> 01:41:58.279 back to the twelve thousand year periods. So when go 1708 01:41:58.359 --> 01:42:01.079 Blacky TEPI, that's the whole thing is like, oh, we 1709 01:42:01.159 --> 01:42:03.760 had advanced humans of the fingerprints of the gods. There 1710 01:42:03.800 --> 01:42:04.039 you go. 1711 01:42:04.279 --> 01:42:06.159 So yeah, I was going to cover fingerprints of the gods. 1712 01:42:06.199 --> 01:42:10.960 I think that's the astro theology of how Leo and. 1713 01:42:12.520 --> 01:42:16.840 I think that it's fun and interesting to speculate, and 1714 01:42:17.439 --> 01:42:19.600 you know, I think everybody has a phase of where 1715 01:42:19.640 --> 01:42:22.119 you read Grand Hancock and you get that stuff, and 1716 01:42:22.199 --> 01:42:25.800 I did two of my twenties. I do think there's 1717 01:42:26.039 --> 01:42:30.840 genuinely mysterious things that we don't know how they you know, 1718 01:42:30.920 --> 01:42:35.079 megaliths and lost cities and underground civilizations and all that 1719 01:42:35.079 --> 01:42:37.319 that stuff does get The fact there was one, and 1720 01:42:37.399 --> 01:42:38.640 I don't know if you saw the recent one in 1721 01:42:38.720 --> 01:42:41.119 China was pretty mind blowing. There was a village in 1722 01:42:41.199 --> 01:42:46.960 China and they had this ancient sort of water well 1723 01:42:47.039 --> 01:42:49.399 that was kind of pouring water out of a rock 1724 01:42:50.359 --> 01:42:53.680 and it was not that big of a like cistern 1725 01:42:53.760 --> 01:42:56.079 type thing that had been there, and everybody in the 1726 01:42:56.159 --> 01:42:58.279 village just knew it as oh, that's the ancient you 1727 01:42:58.319 --> 01:43:00.520 know water well. We don't even know where the water 1728 01:43:00.560 --> 01:43:03.520 comes from. It's just the ancient sacred water well. So 1729 01:43:03.640 --> 01:43:06.479 they drained it somehow, and then they brought in this 1730 01:43:06.560 --> 01:43:09.840 team of archaeologists and all this, and they started digging 1731 01:43:09.840 --> 01:43:12.840 around it, and they found tunnels, and they found an 1732 01:43:13.000 --> 01:43:18.319 entire underground city with giant columns, not as giant as 1733 01:43:18.359 --> 01:43:23.199 the Egyptian court, but pretty amazing like this, and it's 1734 01:43:23.239 --> 01:43:26.600 so old nobody knows what it is. Like the Chinese 1735 01:43:26.600 --> 01:43:29.680 are like, you know, we don't even know. Nobody remembers, 1736 01:43:29.800 --> 01:43:31.840 you know what I mean. So I do think there's 1737 01:43:31.880 --> 01:43:36.079 these fascinating instances of stuff like this law civilizations and 1738 01:43:36.159 --> 01:43:39.239 like you said, like there's no reason to jump to 1739 01:43:40.399 --> 01:43:43.880 aliens or this nonsense. And most of the people who 1740 01:43:44.039 --> 01:43:47.039 are you know, claimants of that kind of stuff, like 1741 01:43:48.880 --> 01:43:51.600 very Bondanik and these like these people are frauds, you 1742 01:43:51.640 --> 01:43:53.920 know what I mean, Like they exposed as frauds. So 1743 01:43:54.800 --> 01:43:57.159 but I do think it's possible, if I was to 1744 01:43:57.359 --> 01:44:00.640 admit anything, if the Genesis six narrative, and if the 1745 01:44:00.680 --> 01:44:03.560 Titan narrative that's in some of the deepconomical text is true, 1746 01:44:04.039 --> 01:44:07.640 it's possible that, you know, the Book of Enich is 1747 01:44:07.680 --> 01:44:11.600 describing a period when you had aberrations in the ancient 1748 01:44:11.640 --> 01:44:16.640 world that perhaps required worship in human sacrifice at these sites, 1749 01:44:17.479 --> 01:44:20.000 and that is what led to a global flood. So 1750 01:44:20.239 --> 01:44:25.279 if these ancient civilizations had this thing going on, I 1751 01:44:25.319 --> 01:44:28.800 mean Plato talks about Atlantis being he doesn't mention giants 1752 01:44:28.840 --> 01:44:31.680 or tech, but he says, you have this ancient civilization, 1753 01:44:32.199 --> 01:44:36.079 it was destroyed like that God flooded it. So you've 1754 01:44:36.079 --> 01:44:38.840 got a lot of at the Station two. You know, 1755 01:44:39.239 --> 01:44:41.640 global flood myths in China. 1756 01:44:41.319 --> 01:44:45.159 And that's where Hmcock and Randall Carlson. I mean, Randal 1757 01:44:45.199 --> 01:44:49.279 Carson is essentially proven and he's a New Age guy. 1758 01:44:49.359 --> 01:44:51.760 He's in the like the Sacred Jount, but he has 1759 01:44:51.800 --> 01:44:56.279 shown that there was a massive global flood that happened, 1760 01:44:56.319 --> 01:44:59.359 and that's just a historical fact. And it wasn't some 1761 01:44:59.399 --> 01:45:02.960 regional thing like I think what the typical narrative of 1762 01:45:03.000 --> 01:45:06.800 like the archaeologist was that these floods were like regional events. 1763 01:45:06.840 --> 01:45:08.920 He's saying, no, no, no, this was massive, This like 1764 01:45:08.960 --> 01:45:11.720 covered all like aspects of North America. This was not 1765 01:45:12.079 --> 01:45:13.039 a regional flood. 1766 01:45:13.359 --> 01:45:15.199 Yeah. At the beginning, well, I mean, you know, fingerprints 1767 01:45:15.199 --> 01:45:17.239 of the gods he talks about early on, like the 1768 01:45:19.560 --> 01:45:22.279 is it down where the Anasca lines are? Is a 1769 01:45:22.359 --> 01:45:27.079 Peru that the Peruvians have a flood myth as well, 1770 01:45:27.239 --> 01:45:29.720 and they had this this prophecy of this you know 1771 01:45:29.840 --> 01:45:33.880 teacher who after the great flood, you know, told them 1772 01:45:33.880 --> 01:45:36.840 to live righteously and don't kill each other and kind 1773 01:45:36.840 --> 01:45:38.800 of giving him a basic kind of Ten commandments kind 1774 01:45:38.800 --> 01:45:42.920 of morality. So, you know, I think it's okay to 1775 01:45:43.000 --> 01:45:46.720 speculate within reason, right, you know, about this ancients, because 1776 01:45:46.760 --> 01:45:49.479 I just feel like we don't really know about the 1777 01:45:49.520 --> 01:45:50.720 ancient world, no. 1778 01:45:51.760 --> 01:45:54.640 So, and so many sources have been corrupted, like and 1779 01:45:54.680 --> 01:45:58.760 there's been a historical narrative to to reframe things that 1780 01:45:58.800 --> 01:46:01.800 have happened. So it's so hard to like fully get 1781 01:46:01.800 --> 01:46:04.119 a grasp of the ancient world and like what they 1782 01:46:04.119 --> 01:46:06.439 are capable of, what they could do, what they couldn't do. 1783 01:46:07.640 --> 01:46:10.880 But it is fun and exciting sort of leading edge 1784 01:46:10.920 --> 01:46:14.920 thought of like rediscovering our past and maybe it wasn't 1785 01:46:14.960 --> 01:46:17.640 what we thought it was, but what I feel and 1786 01:46:18.079 --> 01:46:21.399 I'll move on here. But I've never seen anything regarding 1787 01:46:21.399 --> 01:46:25.520 some of these ancient legends that actually contradict the Biblical worldview. 1788 01:46:26.159 --> 01:46:28.880 If anything, it typically reinforces it. It's just that so 1789 01:46:28.960 --> 01:46:31.359 many people are new age that are into these topics 1790 01:46:31.840 --> 01:46:34.439 immediately go to the ancient alien thing or some type 1791 01:46:34.439 --> 01:46:38.079 of you know, advanced technology. But if you're just a 1792 01:46:38.239 --> 01:46:40.520 traditional Christian, like a lot of this stuff kind of 1793 01:46:40.520 --> 01:46:43.560 fits in a totally in accord with my worldview, I 1794 01:46:43.600 --> 01:46:45.520 don't see where you have to appeal to all this stuff. 1795 01:46:46.319 --> 01:46:48.720 Yeah, there's ancient Chinese flood myth, which is at the 1796 01:46:48.720 --> 01:46:52.640 beginning of the I chain, right, yep, there's the Gilgamesh 1797 01:46:52.720 --> 01:46:54.960 legend yoga match epic. I remember in Bible college we 1798 01:46:55.000 --> 01:46:59.479 talked about how there's a flood story in Gilgameshe epic. Yeah, 1799 01:46:59.560 --> 01:47:02.439 so it's fair. And then you have you know, Peruvian 1800 01:47:02.479 --> 01:47:07.079 flood myth as well. So I mean, if the it 1801 01:47:07.119 --> 01:47:10.079 makes me think of another section in the Graham Hancock 1802 01:47:10.079 --> 01:47:12.640 thing where he took You've heard of the Periorus map, right, 1803 01:47:13.640 --> 01:47:16.439 I mean just speculating here, like if that map really 1804 01:47:16.479 --> 01:47:22.880 is describing some different, you know, underlying land underneath the ice. 1805 01:47:24.600 --> 01:47:27.239 I mean, perhaps a giant flood is what changed that, 1806 01:47:27.279 --> 01:47:29.279 you know what I mean? Like to me, a lot 1807 01:47:29.319 --> 01:47:31.399 of these things sound like a flood would explain a lot. 1808 01:47:31.600 --> 01:47:35.520 Yeah, exactly. Well, I have to check out your stream tonight. 1809 01:47:35.520 --> 01:47:37.640 That's going to be pretty fascinating. Because I have not 1810 01:47:37.720 --> 01:47:40.720 done a full deep dive. I came up to conflicting narratives. 1811 01:47:40.760 --> 01:47:43.279 I was like, Okay, maybe this stuff was just overhyped. 1812 01:47:43.800 --> 01:47:44.640 I'm not sure, what. 1813 01:47:44.600 --> 01:47:49.479 Do you think about go Beckley Tepee? Like, uh, I 1814 01:47:49.520 --> 01:47:54.000 remember you're The claim is that like some of the 1815 01:47:54.079 --> 01:47:56.479 rocks are cut in a way that they couldn't do 1816 01:47:56.560 --> 01:47:57.479 back then or something. 1817 01:47:57.359 --> 01:48:01.920 Right, yep, And that they basically this was technology that 1818 01:48:02.840 --> 01:48:07.039 was superior to what they had. And then the carbon dating, 1819 01:48:07.079 --> 01:48:12.359 which even then carbon dating isn't like rock solid, but 1820 01:48:12.399 --> 01:48:15.439 according to some of the carbon dating and stuff like that, 1821 01:48:15.520 --> 01:48:18.119 they are saying that this is the best site to 1822 01:48:18.239 --> 01:48:22.000 push back the timeframe to twelve thousand years ago. And 1823 01:48:22.039 --> 01:48:25.560 that's why Graham Hancock is so adamant about that particular 1824 01:48:25.720 --> 01:48:30.279 tie because that if it is true, because he has 1825 01:48:29.760 --> 01:48:33.960 some scientific credence to redating that site to potentially twelve 1826 01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:36.800 thousand years ago if that's the case, and he believes 1827 01:48:36.840 --> 01:48:39.239 that they built an entire city and then buried it, 1828 01:48:40.079 --> 01:48:43.279 which I'm not sure quite sure how that makes a 1829 01:48:43.279 --> 01:48:45.960 lot of sense, but that's why they claim it so preserved. 1830 01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:48.760 And there was a guy that I listened to that 1831 01:48:48.880 --> 01:48:53.079 recently went on Rogan. This was maybe within the last 1832 01:48:53.119 --> 01:48:56.159 six months, but he claims that there's like a huge 1833 01:48:56.439 --> 01:49:02.479 effort in Turkey to no longer excavate any more of 1834 01:49:02.520 --> 01:49:06.119 that site. And then the theories abound. Is it because 1835 01:49:06.159 --> 01:49:09.960 of it totally reshapes ancient history or is it because 1836 01:49:10.039 --> 01:49:12.760 if they if they keep it partial, they make more 1837 01:49:12.760 --> 01:49:15.199 money through tourism that wants to come and like see it. 1838 01:49:16.159 --> 01:49:18.880 I don't know, it's it's debated, but he recently was 1839 01:49:18.880 --> 01:49:20.760 bringing this up. I think he's the guy I forget 1840 01:49:20.760 --> 01:49:22.960 his name, but he's done a lot of stuff on 1841 01:49:23.039 --> 01:49:26.680 Atlantis and like arguing that it was that place inside 1842 01:49:26.680 --> 01:49:29.039 the Sahara Desert. If you know what I'm talking about. 1843 01:49:29.720 --> 01:49:35.119 There's here. Let me pull this up, so Google maps, 1844 01:49:35.319 --> 01:49:44.319 if you go to Bam Bam and Mauritania. If I 1845 01:49:44.520 --> 01:49:50.840 go here to like the layers here, there's this right here, 1846 01:49:50.880 --> 01:49:54.399 so you see this like massive circle. 1847 01:49:55.359 --> 01:49:56.560 Oh, this would be the consent. 1848 01:49:57.399 --> 01:49:59.840 Yes, So he claims this is actually the city of Atlantis, 1849 01:49:59.840 --> 01:50:02.560 and so they've done work here. Now it's really hard 1850 01:50:02.560 --> 01:50:04.920 to do any research because it's literally out in the 1851 01:50:04.960 --> 01:50:07.199 middle of the Sahara and it's super hard to stay 1852 01:50:07.199 --> 01:50:11.640 out there for long periods. This apparently was all underwater 1853 01:50:11.680 --> 01:50:14.159 at least the water was rounded at one point. Huh. 1854 01:50:14.359 --> 01:50:17.319 And so there's been multiple archaeologists in this. Guy has 1855 01:50:17.319 --> 01:50:20.399 a large YouTube channel. He's been on Rogan He thinks 1856 01:50:20.920 --> 01:50:25.600 and makes the affirmative claim that this is Atlantis right here. 1857 01:50:26.560 --> 01:50:31.600 Huh. So I did not know, I'm not you. Have 1858 01:50:31.680 --> 01:50:35.920 you seen some of these claims of like like they 1859 01:50:36.000 --> 01:50:39.399 found like a giant pyramid I think in Serbia. 1860 01:50:40.680 --> 01:50:42.199 Uh No, I have not looked into that. 1861 01:50:42.359 --> 01:50:45.720 Yeah, that was interesting because and the reason I think 1862 01:50:45.760 --> 01:50:47.600 that I'm going for a memory here, but the reason 1863 01:50:47.840 --> 01:50:50.640 I mean it may not be Serbia, maybe somewhere in Macedonia, remember, 1864 01:50:50.720 --> 01:50:54.640 somewhere in that region. Because the thought was, well, pyramids 1865 01:50:54.640 --> 01:50:59.439 and ziggorots are you know, not caucaus of stuff that's 1866 01:51:00.159 --> 01:51:03.279 Middle East or you know, ziggorotes in Latin South America 1867 01:51:03.359 --> 01:51:07.399 or whatever. But if there's ziggorots or assume that there's 1868 01:51:07.439 --> 01:51:09.760 a pyramid in Serbia, that would be pretty interesting, wouldn't 1869 01:51:09.800 --> 01:51:15.319 that In terms of the ancient world. And then there's another. Uh. 1870 01:51:15.880 --> 01:51:18.720 I'm split on the one in Antarctica because you know 1871 01:51:18.800 --> 01:51:25.239 I'm talking about Uh, there's a claimed pyramid there, which 1872 01:51:26.039 --> 01:51:28.880 sometimes when I look at him, like it's just a mountain, 1873 01:51:29.039 --> 01:51:30.920 and then from other angles it's like that looks like 1874 01:51:30.960 --> 01:51:32.000 a pyramid. 1875 01:51:31.800 --> 01:51:34.119 Like, yeah, I don't know what that is. I saw 1876 01:51:34.159 --> 01:51:37.640 something wasn't like the largest pyramid ever found was recently 1877 01:51:37.680 --> 01:51:41.000 in like Indonesia or something. I thought it was in 1878 01:51:41.039 --> 01:51:44.199 Southeast Asia. And this was a thought. It was like 1879 01:51:45.439 --> 01:51:47.239 I think if you if you did a YouTube or 1880 01:51:47.520 --> 01:51:50.560 just an internet search would pop up. But it was 1881 01:51:50.600 --> 01:51:54.359 a Southeast Asian country. I can't remember exactly, but it 1882 01:51:54.720 --> 01:51:56.000 looked like it was part of a mountain. But it 1883 01:51:56.079 --> 01:51:57.960 turned out to be like what they believe to be 1884 01:51:58.000 --> 01:52:01.520 as a man made pyramid, and supposedly it's the found. 1885 01:52:01.479 --> 01:52:04.680 Oh no, I didn't know that. So let me see 1886 01:52:04.720 --> 01:52:08.319 Bosnian pyramid claims the Mystery of Bosnias. Now this is 1887 01:52:08.359 --> 01:52:14.319 actually in a even like mainstream nor mey right, this 1888 01:52:14.439 --> 01:52:16.920 is Smithsonian. Let's see what they say. Because I knew 1889 01:52:16.920 --> 01:52:22.600 I'd read about this. I'm not sure how legit they 1890 01:52:22.640 --> 01:52:25.680 take it to be. They might be deblooking it. But 1891 01:52:28.680 --> 01:52:34.279 Visoko Bosnia, Bosnian pyramids, that actually that looks like a pyramid, 1892 01:52:34.319 --> 01:52:35.760 I mean, that does not look like a mountain if 1893 01:52:35.760 --> 01:52:38.720 you look it up, I mean from certain angles, that 1894 01:52:38.760 --> 01:52:40.760 looks like a straight up like well. 1895 01:52:40.800 --> 01:52:44.920 And in China, I went to the Terracotta Warriors, which 1896 01:52:44.920 --> 01:52:50.079 is in Chian, the ancient capital of ancient China. And 1897 01:52:50.520 --> 01:52:52.880 when I was there, just within like the last decade, 1898 01:52:53.199 --> 01:52:56.720 so that I was there. I went there in twenty twelve, 1899 01:52:57.479 --> 01:53:00.359 and they had said within the last decade it was 1900 01:53:00.399 --> 01:53:02.479 discovered that what looked to be it just looked like 1901 01:53:02.520 --> 01:53:05.159 a big hill turned out to be a man made structure, 1902 01:53:05.199 --> 01:53:08.199 and that they had buried an emperor. And they recently 1903 01:53:09.840 --> 01:53:12.439 through sonar and stuff because they can't go in it 1904 01:53:12.479 --> 01:53:14.720 because they believe it's booby trapped and has all these 1905 01:53:14.720 --> 01:53:18.239 poisons and stuff because it's apparently, according to them, it's 1906 01:53:18.239 --> 01:53:21.920 filled with Terracotta warriors soldiers that were close to the emperor, 1907 01:53:21.960 --> 01:53:25.880 and a bunch of treasure inside. But they believe, based 1908 01:53:25.920 --> 01:53:28.399 on their understandings of these structures, that it's like booby 1909 01:53:28.399 --> 01:53:31.279 trapped and if you go in there, there's poisons, mercury, 1910 01:53:31.319 --> 01:53:33.399 all types of stuff. To try to kill somebody if 1911 01:53:33.439 --> 01:53:36.119 they were to take any of the treasure. But yeah, 1912 01:53:36.119 --> 01:53:39.279 that was I mean that's in the two thousands, right 1913 01:53:39.319 --> 01:53:41.920 next to a major museum in China, and they just 1914 01:53:41.960 --> 01:53:44.439 realized that a big hill was actually a man made structure. 1915 01:53:44.760 --> 01:53:52.880 Huh. So they also found something recently too in one 1916 01:53:52.920 --> 01:53:55.640 of the Latin South American countries, like was it Aztec 1917 01:53:55.760 --> 01:54:00.920 or like a Maya or Inca, like a j underground 1918 01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:04.079 tunnel network that had never been discovered before. It was 1919 01:54:04.119 --> 01:54:07.119 pretty recent. Oh I got to find that. One of 1920 01:54:07.159 --> 01:54:10.000 the Chinese village though, because that one. That's the craziest. 1921 01:54:10.720 --> 01:54:13.880 I think all this might be. It's called the long 1922 01:54:14.039 --> 01:54:16.399 U Caves. Have you heard of this? I think this 1923 01:54:16.520 --> 01:54:21.199 is it. Let me make sure cas l O n 1924 01:54:21.359 --> 01:54:26.760 Gyou caves. I think this is it. Yes, this is it. 1925 01:54:26.840 --> 01:54:30.399 So it was just some village and then just drained 1926 01:54:30.439 --> 01:54:35.600 the water and they found this giant underground structure. I 1927 01:54:35.600 --> 01:54:39.520 don't even think they know like what it is. Oh wow, 1928 01:54:39.760 --> 01:54:42.880 like what like who you know? It's just forgotten, like 1929 01:54:42.920 --> 01:54:45.840 nobody remembers or knows like what Emperor said, build me 1930 01:54:45.920 --> 01:54:46.319 this cave? 1931 01:54:47.119 --> 01:54:53.399 Wow? Yeah, it's I think that all that ancient it's fascinating. 1932 01:54:53.439 --> 01:54:55.560 I think there's definitely a story that has yet to 1933 01:54:55.600 --> 01:55:00.920 be told to what exactly happened and how these structures 1934 01:55:01.479 --> 01:55:04.439 they do. And that's and that's the whole thing with Graham. 1935 01:55:04.439 --> 01:55:07.479 Hancock's point is that all the ancients worship the stars, 1936 01:55:07.560 --> 01:55:09.079 and so all this stuff has to do with like 1937 01:55:09.119 --> 01:55:15.079 astrological symbolism and influence, and he kind of has a 1938 01:55:15.119 --> 01:55:17.359 New Age spirituality where they're harnessing the power of the 1939 01:55:17.399 --> 01:55:20.640 stars and all this different stuff. But I mean, I'm 1940 01:55:20.640 --> 01:55:24.039 not I'm not like, no, no, no, but I think 1941 01:55:24.079 --> 01:55:28.079 he I think he has a point that there is 1942 01:55:28.159 --> 01:55:32.560 some type of connection amongst all these ancient groups after 1943 01:55:32.600 --> 01:55:35.119 building these structures. There's clearly a phenomenon here. 1944 01:55:35.159 --> 01:55:38.760 Definitely an astrological like worship alignment type of thing. 1945 01:55:39.199 --> 01:55:42.000 Right right, which absolutely yeah, I don't think there's any 1946 01:55:42.079 --> 01:55:45.600 doubt about that. And the fact that they are all 1947 01:55:45.720 --> 01:55:50.880 over the world, I mean, they the Eastern Island statues 1948 01:55:50.920 --> 01:55:53.560 are still unexplainable. They don't understand how how the hell 1949 01:55:53.600 --> 01:55:57.039 they built those like weird statues of guys that were 1950 01:55:57.159 --> 01:55:58.359 they're found like in the ground. 1951 01:55:58.399 --> 01:56:01.960 They're ginormous, So are they just heads or full bodies. 1952 01:56:03.760 --> 01:56:07.760 Yeah, yeah, they yeah, they they've excavated some of that 1953 01:56:07.800 --> 01:56:11.239 stuff and they're they're ginormous and it would take hundreds 1954 01:56:11.279 --> 01:56:13.720 and hundreds of men to try to pull those across 1955 01:56:13.760 --> 01:56:19.079 like wooden, uh, like lumber, like timber, you know, you 1956 01:56:19.119 --> 01:56:21.119 lay timber down to try to roll it across it. 1957 01:56:21.159 --> 01:56:24.119 I mean it. They're huge and and apparently they're all 1958 01:56:24.199 --> 01:56:25.319 made it all in one piece. 1959 01:56:26.159 --> 01:56:31.600 So well, that reminds me of the Have you seen that? 1960 01:56:32.000 --> 01:56:34.399 I think it's maybe I want to say Serbia again, 1961 01:56:34.439 --> 01:56:37.640 but that there's this place where there's like these giant 1962 01:56:38.039 --> 01:56:40.399 stones that kind of go out into the water and 1963 01:56:40.439 --> 01:56:42.800 it's like it's a road. 1964 01:56:43.600 --> 01:56:45.960 Uh yeah, are you talking about Japan? 1965 01:56:46.680 --> 01:56:48.960 Maybe Japan? I can't remember. They don't know how it 1966 01:56:49.000 --> 01:56:51.119 got there, but it looks like it was a giant wind. 1967 01:56:51.239 --> 01:56:54.239 They look perfectly Yeah, they're like perfect rectangles and the 1968 01:56:54.359 --> 01:57:00.000 sharp with sharp edges, it's like, how the hell? Yeah, 1969 01:57:00.000 --> 01:57:02.640 I've heard of spec. I think Graham's speculation is that 1970 01:57:02.720 --> 01:57:06.159 when the Great Flood happened, all this stuff went underwater 1971 01:57:06.399 --> 01:57:08.640 water before it was actually above water exactly. 1972 01:57:08.840 --> 01:57:10.199 Yeah, that makes sense. 1973 01:57:10.319 --> 01:57:10.479 Yeah. 1974 01:57:10.560 --> 01:57:10.720 Yeah. 1975 01:57:10.840 --> 01:57:13.680 People are saying we're getting into Billy Carson territory. 1976 01:57:15.319 --> 01:57:19.520 No, dude, I mean we're getting into Bible Genesis territory exactly. 1977 01:57:19.680 --> 01:57:23.159 I think that's what's happening is is as you know, 1978 01:57:23.199 --> 01:57:25.039 as time goes on, it's like the Bible is actually 1979 01:57:25.119 --> 01:57:29.600 being proven to be more accurate than anybody supposed. So 1980 01:57:30.199 --> 01:57:32.359 AC shout out to you. Brother throws in fifty bucks 1981 01:57:32.359 --> 01:57:34.159 says you may share this with Jay even though he 1982 01:57:34.319 --> 01:57:39.640 is a quantum KGB sorcer before the KGB went defunct. 1983 01:57:41.720 --> 01:57:43.840 Thank you so much, Ac, David. 1984 01:57:43.640 --> 01:57:47.359 James AGB anymore. But people still say that, you know, 1985 01:57:47.399 --> 01:57:50.359 if you're Orthodox, you're like tied to the KGB, which 1986 01:57:50.399 --> 01:57:54.359 is I know, the KGB has been thirty five years 1987 01:57:54.359 --> 01:57:54.880 of defunct. 1988 01:57:54.920 --> 01:57:58.520 So well, some of the stuff that people make up 1989 01:57:58.560 --> 01:58:05.720 about you is just hilarious. Uh, and man, and say 1990 01:58:05.760 --> 01:58:08.399 that you're some of the people you debate with are 1991 01:58:08.479 --> 01:58:11.159 so incredibly dumb that. 1992 01:58:13.079 --> 01:58:16.840 We gotta we got a popular person debate Wednesday. I'm 1993 01:58:16.840 --> 01:58:20.199 gonna be debating. Uh do you know Dasha from Red Scare. 1994 01:58:20.800 --> 01:58:26.000 Oh yeah, she wants to debate Eastern Catholic versus Orthodox. 1995 01:58:26.399 --> 01:58:31.199 Oh my gosh, that would be Wednesday. 1996 01:58:31.760 --> 01:58:34.159 Has no idea what she's getting into. 1997 01:58:34.880 --> 01:58:35.880 I'm gonna probably troller. 1998 01:58:35.920 --> 01:58:38.039 I'm gonna like, is that on your platform? Yeah? 1999 01:58:38.159 --> 01:58:41.319 I told her she would come on the channel. I'm 2000 01:58:41.319 --> 01:58:44.239 gonna I'm gonna like make up stupid questions and like 2001 01:58:44.359 --> 01:58:48.159 assert stupid stuff that they don't believe, like just to 2002 01:58:48.159 --> 01:58:49.680 mess with her. I'm gonna say, well, you know, the 2003 01:58:49.800 --> 01:58:53.079 Eastern Catholics believe in eating weed on one of your holidays, right, 2004 01:58:54.439 --> 01:58:58.079 I'm just gonna mess with her. 2005 01:58:59.399 --> 01:59:01.800 H one of the goods, throws intent, says, did Lawrence 2006 01:59:01.800 --> 01:59:04.439 of Arabia wear Cosby sweaters and have a gay lisp? 2007 01:59:05.279 --> 01:59:07.760 If you watch the Gertrue Bell movie with Nicole Kibben, 2008 01:59:09.760 --> 01:59:14.319 Robert Pattinson plays to Lawrence. So so you can go 2009 01:59:14.359 --> 01:59:17.600 watch Robert Pattinson being skittles and determine whether you think 2010 01:59:17.640 --> 01:59:18.199 he has a lisp. 2011 01:59:20.680 --> 01:59:23.119 Austin Detulio throws in five. Thank you very much. Brother. 2012 01:59:23.880 --> 01:59:26.359 Brendan Turner throws in five, says Britz. Keep saying they 2013 01:59:26.359 --> 01:59:29.800 can take back their country because look at the Spanish reconquista, 2014 01:59:30.319 --> 01:59:35.560 but the Spanish elites weren't pro Islam. They might be cooked. Yeah, 2015 01:59:35.840 --> 01:59:39.840 I think we discussed that. It's it's gonna be tough. 2016 01:59:40.039 --> 01:59:44.520 For Britain. I mean, I think, at least based on percentages, 2017 01:59:44.560 --> 01:59:48.199 Germany still has a chance if it stopped like in 2018 01:59:48.239 --> 01:59:52.479 the very near future and corrected course. But France and 2019 01:59:52.640 --> 01:59:55.199 especially England, I mean England at the percentage now, I 2020 01:59:55.239 --> 01:59:59.000 think it's almost twenty percent of the country. I mean, 2021 01:59:59.039 --> 02:00:01.560 it's that you just imported it. 2022 02:00:02.399 --> 02:00:02.880 I don't know. 2023 02:00:04.319 --> 02:00:06.920 I don't know. God bless them, though, I hope. 2024 02:00:06.720 --> 02:00:09.159 I mean, could you turn it back? I don't know. 2025 02:00:09.199 --> 02:00:09.880 It's a good question. 2026 02:00:10.640 --> 02:00:16.319 I mean, you couldn't without deportation, and I think that, yeah, 2027 02:00:16.359 --> 02:00:19.239 I can't. I don't see a single European nation outside 2028 02:00:19.279 --> 02:00:22.640 you know, Hungry or Poland, and that'd be in a local, 2029 02:00:22.680 --> 02:00:24.800 regional area. But I don't see any of them like 2030 02:00:25.319 --> 02:00:27.920 deporting anybody. So I don't. I don't see how they're 2031 02:00:27.920 --> 02:00:30.119 going to turn it back. It's just not going to happen. 2032 02:00:32.039 --> 02:00:34.359 Josiah throws in twenty Thank you so much, brother, he says, 2033 02:00:34.359 --> 02:00:36.640 God bless you and Jay. You are both changing the 2034 02:00:36.680 --> 02:00:38.520 world more than you know. God bless you well. Thank 2035 02:00:38.560 --> 02:00:44.520 you very much, Josiah were humble. H BROSSI says, what's 2036 02:00:44.680 --> 02:00:51.199 STG stand for? I don't know, so I STG. Jay 2037 02:00:51.279 --> 02:00:56.399 has the best normy tarred americanism man voice. I don't 2038 02:00:56.439 --> 02:00:58.840 know why a goofy ass mocking voice makes me laugh 2039 02:00:58.920 --> 02:01:00.920 so hard when I heard it a million times. 2040 02:01:01.279 --> 02:01:03.199 I think you're talking about one of my normy when 2041 02:01:03.199 --> 02:01:05.800 I do the normy voice, that's what he's talking about. 2042 02:01:06.199 --> 02:01:10.279 Okay, well, thank you very much. H Brossi and Jehovah's 2043 02:01:11.199 --> 02:01:15.439 Thickness renewed his membership. Thank you very much, says Jay 2044 02:01:15.520 --> 02:01:18.079 talked about trauma. Do either of you have a stream 2045 02:01:18.119 --> 02:01:22.199 specifically covering on whys and hows of trauma? Is useful? 2046 02:01:22.680 --> 02:01:24.680 I pay for it, but import I do not have 2047 02:01:24.720 --> 02:01:26.560 anything on trauma specific. 2048 02:01:26.319 --> 02:01:27.960 Yeah, I mean, Jamie and I've done. We got a 2049 02:01:28.000 --> 02:01:31.359 bunch of old archives streams about trauma based mind control. Yeah, 2050 02:01:31.439 --> 02:01:32.119 we got a bunch. 2051 02:01:34.119 --> 02:01:37.039 Great, So go check those out. Uh. And the best 2052 02:01:37.079 --> 02:01:39.279 way when you're trying to find go to Jay's YouTube 2053 02:01:39.319 --> 02:01:42.800 channel on a desktop and click on the search and 2054 02:01:42.840 --> 02:01:46.479 then put because if you just search Jadeyer in the 2055 02:01:46.520 --> 02:01:49.600 topic in the YouTube search bar, multiple videos do not 2056 02:01:49.640 --> 02:01:51.159 come up. You have to go to the channel and 2057 02:01:51.199 --> 02:01:54.079 search it. So if anybody's looking for old stuff, that's 2058 02:01:54.239 --> 02:01:54.520 I know. 2059 02:01:54.479 --> 02:01:58.920 What tepee stream is called I can't find. 2060 02:01:58.920 --> 02:02:00.840 When we get off, I'll I'll go back through my 2061 02:02:00.960 --> 02:02:01.920 channel and send it to you. 2062 02:02:02.319 --> 02:02:05.159 Because that's an example like when I search, you know, 2063 02:02:05.399 --> 02:02:08.279 I can't find your thing on that. 2064 02:02:08.319 --> 02:02:12.039 And it may have I'll find out which stream it 2065 02:02:12.079 --> 02:02:14.960 may have been titled something that was related to ancient history. 2066 02:02:15.119 --> 02:02:17.760 So let me get off. I'll go back through my 2067 02:02:17.760 --> 02:02:22.960 my channel and look. H Browski throws another ten says 2068 02:02:22.960 --> 02:02:25.760 it's only a partial antidote to degeneracy. I think you're 2069 02:02:25.760 --> 02:02:28.159 talking about Islam. The young men seeking out Islam think 2070 02:02:28.199 --> 02:02:31.479 it's more base because they can comb with multiple wives 2071 02:02:31.640 --> 02:02:36.800 under that view, that plus abhorrence of Protestantism. Yeah, I mean, 2072 02:02:37.079 --> 02:02:40.840 and you've talked about this. I mean Islam is appealing 2073 02:02:41.079 --> 02:02:44.600 to like primitive senses in man, right, so you get 2074 02:02:44.640 --> 02:02:48.399 like it kind of has like prosperity gospel. So then 2075 02:02:48.800 --> 02:02:51.600 you know Allah's rewarded you with money. So now you 2076 02:02:51.640 --> 02:02:54.039 can have four wives and if you want, you can 2077 02:02:54.159 --> 02:02:56.319 you know, if you're in Chia, you can go purchase 2078 02:02:56.359 --> 02:02:59.680 a woman for a day. It has all types of 2079 02:02:59.680 --> 02:03:01.039 stuff that's about like worldly. 2080 02:03:01.600 --> 02:03:03.960 Well, I mean, let's not forget the most obvious of 2081 02:03:04.159 --> 02:03:07.279 like people young, very young underage. 2082 02:03:07.399 --> 02:03:10.079 Oh yeah, so Ayisha. 2083 02:03:10.439 --> 02:03:12.920 Well but I mean PDF stuff, Oh. 2084 02:03:12.840 --> 02:03:15.560 Yeah in general, yeah, the normalization of that in general. Yeah, 2085 02:03:15.600 --> 02:03:19.760 the was it the Baka Bachi boys of Afghanistan. 2086 02:03:19.880 --> 02:03:23.640 Those are actually pagan but oh they're not Muslim. No. 2087 02:03:23.720 --> 02:03:27.359 I mean, I'm sure they tolerated. But uh, I'm pretty 2088 02:03:27.359 --> 02:03:30.800 sure like the Taliban was opposed to the dancing boys. 2089 02:03:32.039 --> 02:03:37.079 Good Age Browsei said. I know it's not necessarily either 2090 02:03:37.119 --> 02:03:39.600 of you guys placed to answer this, or maybe just 2091 02:03:39.720 --> 02:03:42.159 don't know, but it seems to me that the Western 2092 02:03:42.239 --> 02:03:46.359 Europeans may have lost this slow burn war thoughts. Well, 2093 02:03:46.359 --> 02:03:49.520 I think we've already addressed it. I don't know how, 2094 02:03:49.720 --> 02:03:53.159 and Jay already said how they're going to turn this tide, 2095 02:03:53.920 --> 02:03:58.199 and the I don't see the gumption to do any 2096 02:03:58.239 --> 02:04:02.039 mass deportation or totally change course. So the best they 2097 02:04:02.039 --> 02:04:04.720 could do is just close off immigrant but there's so 2098 02:04:04.800 --> 02:04:07.560 many people it's already changed the fabric of the country. 2099 02:04:07.800 --> 02:04:12.520 Yeah, so I looked it up. The practice is like 2100 02:04:12.560 --> 02:04:15.239 an ancient, like a like a more of a pagan 2101 02:04:15.279 --> 02:04:21.800 thing in Afghanistan, and Islamic law has tried to ban it. 2102 02:04:23.000 --> 02:04:24.279 I'm not saying that makes. 2103 02:04:25.920 --> 02:04:28.720 Like, well, you know, one of the things I found 2104 02:04:28.800 --> 02:04:32.239 interesting when I was doing a stream on the trans 2105 02:04:32.279 --> 02:04:36.319 stuff was that Iran is like the world leader in 2106 02:04:36.600 --> 02:04:43.600 surgeries that as long as you transition, it's not a sin. 2107 02:04:44.119 --> 02:04:49.560 It's actually a world hub for that. Yeah, it's I mean, 2108 02:04:49.600 --> 02:04:51.880 people need to understand, like especially dumb right wingers that 2109 02:04:51.920 --> 02:04:53.600 want to think you can have the alliance with all 2110 02:04:53.640 --> 02:04:57.239 these wacko like I mean, she A beliefs are crazy. 2111 02:04:57.840 --> 02:05:02.880 It's it's it's not it's like, okay, so Rabbis have 2112 02:05:03.000 --> 02:05:05.640 a crazy philosophy. Oh, I guess that means I Ran 2113 02:05:05.720 --> 02:05:06.399 and she are good. 2114 02:05:06.520 --> 02:05:10.920 It's just crazy exactly. No, and and yeah, and they 2115 02:05:10.920 --> 02:05:12.760 read that, you know, I see these people will read 2116 02:05:12.880 --> 02:05:15.680 like they'll get in like the traditionalist school and read 2117 02:05:15.720 --> 02:05:17.760 one book on Sufism and all of a sudden, like, no, 2118 02:05:18.039 --> 02:05:22.039 Islam's like super cool, dude, it's like neoplatonic. And it's like, no, 2119 02:05:22.319 --> 02:05:25.439 have you looked into like the religion of it, like 2120 02:05:25.520 --> 02:05:30.560 not just some Western portrayal of like Islamic mysticism, Like 2121 02:05:30.600 --> 02:05:32.720 it's it's totally incurably. 2122 02:05:32.920 --> 02:05:37.800 Yeah, it's true that like Sufi and you know, Sheia 2123 02:05:37.920 --> 02:05:40.199 Islam is neo platonic. But yeah, that doesn't mean that 2124 02:05:40.239 --> 02:05:42.439 it's based and tried and good. 2125 02:05:42.720 --> 02:05:48.600 Yeah exactly. H Brossi said, I'm not trying to be mean, 2126 02:05:48.680 --> 02:05:53.560 but ex prostitutes will never stop running through those Protestant 2127 02:05:53.680 --> 02:05:55.960 church doors. They need to shield their past. 2128 02:05:56.239 --> 02:05:59.319 Yeah, they're figuring out like it's a grift, right right 2129 02:05:59.479 --> 02:06:00.640 like people like that. 2130 02:06:01.279 --> 02:06:07.520 Yeah. Yeah, Pastor Nala given her dad her only fans money. 2131 02:06:08.239 --> 02:06:11.520 Bitter Klinger says, can Jay give us a John Hagy 2132 02:06:11.880 --> 02:06:16.800 talking about the Nephelam and Pyramids in personation. 2133 02:06:16.720 --> 02:06:20.279 Friends, In my book In Defense of Israel, I approve 2134 02:06:20.399 --> 02:06:22.880 that the Nephileams set up the Pyramids and they did 2135 02:06:22.920 --> 02:06:25.600 it to fuck Israel with a giant Giza death star. 2136 02:06:30.039 --> 02:06:33.560 Oh that was great. Uh Snagglebe's renewed as membership said, 2137 02:06:33.600 --> 02:06:36.479 have either of you done research on dodger Land? The 2138 02:06:36.600 --> 02:06:40.319 ruins under the north Sea lends credence to the food narrative, 2139 02:06:40.359 --> 02:06:44.119 for sure, I've never heard of the uh. No. 2140 02:06:44.279 --> 02:06:50.239 In fact, I write, I welcome everyone suggesting these cities 2141 02:06:50.279 --> 02:06:53.600 and things in megalith because what you find is that 2142 02:06:53.840 --> 02:07:00.000 there's infinite of these. There's so many discovered cities and civilizations, 2143 02:07:00.039 --> 02:07:01.880 the megaliths. I can't even keep up with all that. 2144 02:07:01.920 --> 02:07:03.279 I got a stack of books on him, and I 2145 02:07:03.319 --> 02:07:04.720 can't even keep up with them. Dog girl. 2146 02:07:05.960 --> 02:07:10.000 Interesting, No, I'm not. I am not familiar with this. 2147 02:07:11.479 --> 02:07:15.159 And somebody was saying that the YouTube channel that I 2148 02:07:15.199 --> 02:07:17.199 was mentioning that was on Jay Dyer and talked a 2149 02:07:17.199 --> 02:07:22.319 lot about like the Atlanta's being in the Sahara. I 2150 02:07:22.359 --> 02:07:25.680 believe it's called Bright Insight. It's a useful YouTube channel 2151 02:07:25.800 --> 02:07:28.560 because it really gives you sort of he gets very 2152 02:07:28.600 --> 02:07:31.720 deep into that worldview. So he's a very major proponent 2153 02:07:31.760 --> 02:07:35.680 of Graham Hancock and Raynal Carlson, so he's taking their 2154 02:07:35.720 --> 02:07:38.640 line of thought. But he's kind of always staying on 2155 02:07:38.680 --> 02:07:41.159 top of the latest research and papers that come out, 2156 02:07:41.239 --> 02:07:47.359 so it may be useful for research on streams. And 2157 02:07:47.399 --> 02:07:49.960 then H. Brossey says, if this stuff with the pyramids 2158 02:07:50.039 --> 02:07:53.319 is true, you do realize where the brothers and sistas 2159 02:07:53.439 --> 02:07:56.359 are going with that. Right? Your cube used to be 2160 02:07:56.760 --> 02:07:59.880 his big ass brain to do it. 2161 02:08:00.079 --> 02:08:03.319 Y'all saw y'all saw my post. Right, I know what 2162 02:08:03.359 --> 02:08:09.399 the energy system was for? Yeah, growing, growing the hydroponics 2163 02:08:09.479 --> 02:08:10.399 up in there, right. 2164 02:08:10.479 --> 02:08:13.000 That's right. That's how they talked to Anubis. 2165 02:08:13.000 --> 02:08:17.199 Dank and notton right there. That's what that was for. 2166 02:08:22.079 --> 02:08:25.560 Next one, Dave throws in two bucks, is has Jay 2167 02:08:25.640 --> 02:08:29.279 heard of or heard about Egyptians in the Grand Canyon. 2168 02:08:29.520 --> 02:08:33.439 Yes, so there was an a there's an old news 2169 02:08:33.800 --> 02:08:40.239 article clipping that supposedly someone had found reference to or 2170 02:08:41.399 --> 02:08:48.279 a suggestion of Egyptian hieroglyphs in the Grand Canyon. I 2171 02:08:48.319 --> 02:08:52.720 don't know the provenance of that news clipping. One thing, 2172 02:08:52.720 --> 02:08:55.199 I will say, that's pretty fascinating. And I learned this 2173 02:08:55.239 --> 02:08:57.279 from Jamie because we were driving when we're on our 2174 02:08:57.279 --> 02:09:00.439 way to Vegas, we went through this area, want to say, 2175 02:09:00.439 --> 02:09:03.479 around New Mexico or Utah. I don't remember exactly where 2176 02:09:03.680 --> 02:09:07.800 this was, but there's this place where there's a like 2177 02:09:07.880 --> 02:09:12.279 a throne carved into stone out in the desert, and 2178 02:09:12.319 --> 02:09:16.319 it has these Hebrew letters on it. And can you 2179 02:09:16.359 --> 02:09:18.920 guess who faked that? 2180 02:09:19.720 --> 02:09:20.199 Mormons? 2181 02:09:20.520 --> 02:09:26.079 Yes, So, I mean, if there's a Grand Canyon thing 2182 02:09:26.199 --> 02:09:28.319 with I mean I might be timpted to think the 2183 02:09:28.359 --> 02:09:31.840 Mormons right stage that because they've done it in other 2184 02:09:31.880 --> 02:09:35.720 places to prove the Mormon story of the right Hebrews 2185 02:09:35.760 --> 02:09:39.399 in Utah or whatever. So, but I mean, then again, 2186 02:09:39.439 --> 02:09:41.840 maybe there is some stuff we just don't know about. 2187 02:09:41.880 --> 02:09:47.000 I don't know. Bill Hicks says, epicxtreme guys, God blessed, 2188 02:09:47.000 --> 02:09:50.399 Thank you very much, Bill Nathan. We was kings back 2189 02:09:50.439 --> 02:09:54.439 in Egypt. We was kings and h BROSSI throws. Another 2190 02:09:54.479 --> 02:09:56.760 one says, just to get a step closer to the 2191 02:09:56.840 --> 02:09:59.720 goal every time you guys stream it's great. I hope 2192 02:09:59.760 --> 02:10:02.479 the asses will remember y'all in the Eschaton for the 2193 02:10:02.560 --> 02:10:06.279 number of catechumens you brought to the faith. Well, God willing. 2194 02:10:06.960 --> 02:10:08.800 And then we just had a couple over on Dono 2195 02:10:08.920 --> 02:10:17.279 chat Chat TBD. Anyone here understand hypotheticals. I think we all. 2196 02:10:17.359 --> 02:10:20.840 I think everybody here understands hypotheticals. H random use. 2197 02:10:20.880 --> 02:10:23.319 One always ask the Muslims well. 2198 02:10:23.840 --> 02:10:26.359 And Andrew asked all these girls about whether they ate 2199 02:10:26.359 --> 02:10:31.800 breakfast in the morning, how they feel they didn't need it. No, 2200 02:10:31.880 --> 02:10:34.520 It's it's amazing how people can't, like they do, not 2201 02:10:34.600 --> 02:10:36.600 understand generalities. 2202 02:10:36.119 --> 02:10:40.760 Right or hypothetical yeah, or even just restting what your 2203 02:10:40.840 --> 02:10:41.439 argument is. 2204 02:10:41.640 --> 02:10:44.239 Yeah, per capita seems to go over people's heads quite 2205 02:10:44.239 --> 02:10:49.640 a bit. Random user said, could I beat Jay Dyer 2206 02:10:49.760 --> 02:10:54.000 in a live debate, yes, but only under specific conditions. 2207 02:10:54.640 --> 02:10:56.680 Chat GPT real response. 2208 02:10:58.279 --> 02:11:01.159 I don't think chat GBT and or that great in debates. 2209 02:11:01.199 --> 02:11:03.880 I mean we've been doing some videos experimenting with how 2210 02:11:03.880 --> 02:11:06.000 good they are debating, and they're not that great. So 2211 02:11:06.199 --> 02:11:08.840 I mean I found Rock to be the best because 2212 02:11:08.840 --> 02:11:12.199 he's it's kind of like an easier version of Wikipedia 2213 02:11:12.319 --> 02:11:16.800 that's not as lib as Wikipedia. So you know, if 2214 02:11:16.800 --> 02:11:19.640 you're asking Rock basically questions about you know, oh when 2215 02:11:19.720 --> 02:11:23.960 did you know when was James Angleton, the CIA desk 2216 02:11:24.039 --> 02:11:26.039 chief in Rome, Like he can give you those kinds 2217 02:11:26.039 --> 02:11:30.199 of things, but beyond that, it's not that great. 2218 02:11:31.119 --> 02:11:34.119 Have you noticed any significant difference between Rock and chat GYBT. 2219 02:11:35.039 --> 02:11:37.920 Yeah, I think Grock's better. I mean I haven't used 2220 02:11:37.960 --> 02:11:41.159 I haven't used jadgybt in a few months, and it 2221 02:11:41.279 --> 02:11:43.680 was it was pretty weak sauce dude, Like I remember 2222 02:11:43.720 --> 02:11:48.000 asking some questions in it, like cha, the chagy of 2223 02:11:48.079 --> 02:11:50.680 three or four months ago was literally contradicting itself within 2224 02:11:50.720 --> 02:11:54.680 like five minutes on the same question. I'm like, right, 2225 02:11:54.760 --> 02:11:56.479 you just told me this, But I found grow. 2226 02:11:56.640 --> 02:11:58.680 I mean, you can get it if you respond, if 2227 02:11:58.720 --> 02:12:00.960 you ask it a question of respond and then you 2228 02:12:01.359 --> 02:12:03.479 are critical of the response, saying, oh, well you miss 2229 02:12:03.560 --> 02:12:06.439 this like you can get it to sort of go 2230 02:12:06.520 --> 02:12:07.600 off into ara. 2231 02:12:08.600 --> 02:12:12.880 Yeah, and I mean Grock's the same way, but I 2232 02:12:12.960 --> 02:12:14.159 found it to be a little better. 2233 02:12:14.840 --> 02:12:16.039 Okay, I got. 2234 02:12:15.960 --> 02:12:19.119 Him to even admit, like Grock was even like admitting 2235 02:12:19.199 --> 02:12:21.880 stuff about Victor Ostrowski's book, you know what I mean. 2236 02:12:22.000 --> 02:12:23.840 So it was pretty interesting. 2237 02:12:25.479 --> 02:12:31.359 Judeo Islamic guy says the islam talk here reminded me. 2238 02:12:31.560 --> 02:12:34.600 I've heard it said several times that the modern world 2239 02:12:35.000 --> 02:12:39.600 for religion was invented for British colonialism. Not sure how 2240 02:12:39.640 --> 02:12:46.079 that works. I'm not bigly educated. 2241 02:12:46.520 --> 02:12:49.439 Well, I mean the modern world is created more or 2242 02:12:49.479 --> 02:12:51.079 less by the British similar, that's true. 2243 02:12:52.560 --> 02:12:55.600 I don't know nickname. First name says, haven't seen you 2244 02:12:55.680 --> 02:12:57.920 both in a minute. What have you guys been up to. 2245 02:12:58.880 --> 02:13:01.760 I've been trying to finish my dissertation. I'll be turning 2246 02:13:01.800 --> 02:13:04.880 that in next week. So I think I've only streamed 2247 02:13:04.920 --> 02:13:06.319 like once or twice this month. 2248 02:13:06.359 --> 02:13:08.079 Besides this, I know, yeah, I know, she haven't done 2249 02:13:08.079 --> 02:13:08.560 a whole lot. 2250 02:13:08.600 --> 02:13:11.399 And uh, just because I've been I've been writing and 2251 02:13:11.520 --> 02:13:14.840 formatting and getting all that stuff done. So Uh, April, 2252 02:13:15.000 --> 02:13:19.800 I'll be back into the normal swing of things. But 2253 02:13:19.920 --> 02:13:23.079 you were just in Uh you were in person in Texas. 2254 02:13:23.079 --> 02:13:24.880 Didn't you just go to Texas? 2255 02:13:25.119 --> 02:13:26.960 Yeah, we were there for a funeral and then I 2256 02:13:27.000 --> 02:13:32.479 went ahead and did uh Lord Voldemort's Show. But also, uh, 2257 02:13:33.479 --> 02:13:35.319 you know, I was finishing us to start Calley with 2258 02:13:35.479 --> 02:13:38.640 three for the last few months. So oh, nice, got 2259 02:13:38.640 --> 02:13:41.640 that complete. It's a I got the rough rough drop 2260 02:13:41.760 --> 02:13:45.239 back from the editor and publisher and yeah, hopefully we'll 2261 02:13:45.279 --> 02:13:47.199 be it'll be out in the next couple of months. 2262 02:13:47.600 --> 02:13:49.680 Oh that's awesome, man, that's got to feel good. 2263 02:13:50.159 --> 02:13:52.399 It was a weight off, and it was because I 2264 02:13:52.439 --> 02:13:54.399 had really been writing a lot in the last five years. 2265 02:13:54.399 --> 02:13:58.039 I've been doing so many podcasts and videos that getting 2266 02:13:58.079 --> 02:14:00.560 back in the mode. And I'm sure you're experiencing that 2267 02:14:00.560 --> 02:14:02.479 too with your dissertation. Like it, if you do a 2268 02:14:02.479 --> 02:14:04.800 lot of podcasts and videos then you try to switch 2269 02:14:04.840 --> 02:14:08.159 back into writing, it's like a totally different mindset. 2270 02:14:08.399 --> 02:14:12.760 Yeah, it's totally different. Yes it is. And it's that's 2271 02:14:12.800 --> 02:14:15.159 why for me is like I to do that stuff, 2272 02:14:15.239 --> 02:14:17.199 like I just have to be engrossed in it for 2273 02:14:17.279 --> 02:14:20.239 days at a time. I was trying to write and 2274 02:14:20.319 --> 02:14:22.560 like stream a day, or do research your stream and 2275 02:14:22.600 --> 02:14:24.279 then do it and then try to go back to it. 2276 02:14:24.359 --> 02:14:27.159 It's like you can't have so many thoughts go through 2277 02:14:27.199 --> 02:14:29.399 your head because then you lose track of all the 2278 02:14:29.399 --> 02:14:32.039 threads that you're writing about and trying to like weave together. 2279 02:14:32.279 --> 02:14:36.239 It's a totally different thing. And then last one on 2280 02:14:36.920 --> 02:14:40.920 Dono chat outside one says thank you both for the 2281 02:14:40.960 --> 02:14:45.439 great work. Curious how Russia play into utilizing its Islamic 2282 02:14:45.520 --> 02:14:50.600 factions to influence slash warfare and too destabilization efforts. I 2283 02:14:50.720 --> 02:14:55.079 ask as characters like Dugan speak about flooding Europe with Africans, 2284 02:14:55.560 --> 02:15:00.199 I've never heard. Is Dugan just describing what's happening or 2285 02:15:00.239 --> 02:15:03.760 he's I don't think Dugan ever advocates for flooding Europe 2286 02:15:03.840 --> 02:15:05.000 with Africans. 2287 02:15:06.159 --> 02:15:07.720 I don't know if he said that. I mean, I 2288 02:15:07.720 --> 02:15:11.279 don't I've read Dugan's books. I'm not a regular follower. 2289 02:15:11.319 --> 02:15:13.000 I don't keep up with all the stuff that you know, 2290 02:15:13.079 --> 02:15:15.039 Dugan talks about it. I mean, I think because I 2291 02:15:15.159 --> 02:15:17.960 talked to him eight years ago, people assume that I'm 2292 02:15:18.000 --> 02:15:23.760 just like right, I mean, I'm critical of his he 2293 02:15:23.800 --> 02:15:27.960 has kind of gnostic influences in his positions and perennialist influences, 2294 02:15:27.960 --> 02:15:31.079 and I've never been interested in those positions. So I 2295 02:15:31.079 --> 02:15:33.720 think he's interesting to read, and he's interesting to to, 2296 02:15:34.239 --> 02:15:39.199 you know, hear his views on stuff. But I would 2297 02:15:39.239 --> 02:15:45.000 imagine that the way Russia projects influence and power is 2298 02:15:45.039 --> 02:15:48.960 not the same type of ways that the West does 2299 02:15:49.000 --> 02:15:55.079 it with total open borders. Maybe they, I mean, if 2300 02:15:55.079 --> 02:15:57.439 you look up active measures, that's kind of been their 2301 02:15:58.359 --> 02:16:00.920 approach to this stuff. If he listen to Mark Hackard 2302 02:16:00.920 --> 02:16:03.880 and the interviews that we've done, you know, Russia is 2303 02:16:03.920 --> 02:16:08.039 limited in its capabilities of what it does in foreign 2304 02:16:08.159 --> 02:16:12.000 espionage operations. I mean, they have illegals, they have units 2305 02:16:12.039 --> 02:16:15.079 and spies that do things like every other country. But 2306 02:16:15.159 --> 02:16:18.479 I don't think they have the kind of capabilities of 2307 02:16:19.319 --> 02:16:23.079 what the democratic establishment in America claims that they have, 2308 02:16:23.359 --> 02:16:26.720 right like the Democrats or they're running everything. They've got 2309 02:16:26.720 --> 02:16:29.760 Trump and they've got you know, Elon Musk in their 2310 02:16:29.800 --> 02:16:32.000 pocket and they're all you know what I mean, it's 2311 02:16:32.440 --> 02:16:35.079 just these outlandish claims. At the same time as the 2312 02:16:35.120 --> 02:16:38.840 same democratic media is like Russia's collapsing, They're losing the war, 2313 02:16:38.959 --> 02:16:41.920 they're bankrupt, but at the same time they're like running 2314 02:16:41.920 --> 02:16:43.920 Donald Trump. Like none of it makes any sense. So, 2315 02:16:44.799 --> 02:16:46.840 I mean, I don't know if they have any plans 2316 02:16:46.840 --> 02:16:50.479 of pushing open borders, but it's I guess it's possible, 2317 02:16:50.520 --> 02:16:51.079 but I don't know. 2318 02:16:51.959 --> 02:16:55.079 It seems like Russia would be a natural nationalist ally 2319 02:16:55.639 --> 02:16:59.319 if if the sort of globalist world, or if Trump 2320 02:16:59.479 --> 02:17:01.760 truly was getting out of NATO and getting out of 2321 02:17:02.920 --> 02:17:07.559 the enterprise of empire building. You know, I saw that, 2322 02:17:08.200 --> 02:17:10.399 at least according to reports, they had that two and 2323 02:17:10.440 --> 02:17:13.079 a half hour conversation that they wanted to establish direct 2324 02:17:13.079 --> 02:17:18.200 flights between New York and Moscow again and open up tourism. 2325 02:17:18.239 --> 02:17:20.920 I think that'd be that'd be great if they could 2326 02:17:20.920 --> 02:17:22.760 get that get that done. 2327 02:17:23.399 --> 02:17:26.200 By the way, when I mentioned active measures, I'm not 2328 02:17:26.360 --> 02:17:32.440 referring to the documentary that is supposed to prove that 2329 02:17:32.559 --> 02:17:35.719 Donald Trump is a Russian agent. I'm referring to the 2330 02:17:35.799 --> 02:17:42.360 actual plan from like how how Russia views its intelligence 2331 02:17:42.399 --> 02:17:46.479 capabilities that they call active measures, which is it ranges 2332 02:17:46.520 --> 02:17:51.079 from media to specific actions of black ops, this kind 2333 02:17:51.079 --> 02:17:55.959 of stuff. And then like because of that term, you 2334 02:17:56.079 --> 02:17:59.399 had people latch onto that term and say, oh, we'll 2335 02:17:59.399 --> 02:18:03.479 see that means putince involved in compromising Donald Trump and 2336 02:18:03.520 --> 02:18:06.280 making him an operative. But it goes back to Soviet 2337 02:18:06.280 --> 02:18:08.559 intelligence as to one of their plans of how they 2338 02:18:08.600 --> 02:18:13.239 engage in subversion. But one of the things that was 2339 02:18:13.319 --> 02:18:17.639 mentioned maybe ten twelve years ago was that because Russia 2340 02:18:17.719 --> 02:18:22.920 is not as powerful as the West, they don't have 2341 02:18:23.040 --> 02:18:25.719 the ability to engage in all the same types of 2342 02:18:25.760 --> 02:18:30.920 operations that NATO and the West have. So one of 2343 02:18:30.959 --> 02:18:38.600 their strategies has been to push more truth based narratives. 2344 02:18:38.680 --> 02:18:41.239 And that's why you'll see a lot more of artsa 2345 02:18:41.360 --> 02:18:45.760 RT for example. I mean, they're more banned and censored 2346 02:18:45.760 --> 02:18:47.799 in the West since the war. But prior to that, 2347 02:18:48.120 --> 02:18:50.079 you noticed that Art was pushing a lot of the 2348 02:18:50.120 --> 02:18:53.760 same stuff that Lord Goldemart pushed, right, And that's because 2349 02:18:54.159 --> 02:18:56.719 the idea was that it's more effective to just go 2350 02:18:56.799 --> 02:19:03.200 after truth based narratives in terms of journalism versus the 2351 02:19:03.239 --> 02:19:08.840 way that America runs its international disinformation networks and campaigns, 2352 02:19:08.840 --> 02:19:11.559 which requires a lot of lying, a lot of money, 2353 02:19:11.639 --> 02:19:16.559 a lot of you know, international writers, ap like all 2354 02:19:16.559 --> 02:19:20.760 this stuff which turns out junk. That takes a lot 2355 02:19:20.760 --> 02:19:23.639 more money and power and effort to run a giant 2356 02:19:24.079 --> 02:19:28.000 network of this info. And so Russia's vantage point was 2357 02:19:28.040 --> 02:19:33.000 that it's more effective to run truth based narratives versus 2358 02:19:33.159 --> 02:19:34.959 massive disinfo like the West. 2359 02:19:34.799 --> 02:19:37.879 Does right well, and to your point, I think I 2360 02:19:37.920 --> 02:19:40.280 saw a clip of Tucker Carlson recently interviewed like Rick 2361 02:19:40.319 --> 02:19:43.879 Sanchez or somebody used to be on Fox News or something. 2362 02:19:44.000 --> 02:19:47.840 Now he had like a he's Cuban conservative guy American, 2363 02:19:48.399 --> 02:19:50.440 but he has a show on RT, and he was 2364 02:19:50.479 --> 02:19:55.319 talking about how they don't censor anything that he wants 2365 02:19:55.399 --> 02:19:58.639 to talk about, and that RT he said he was 2366 02:19:58.680 --> 02:20:00.760 surprised once he joined his own show. I think Larry 2367 02:20:00.840 --> 02:20:06.040 King's on ART still that like they are huge. ART 2368 02:20:06.239 --> 02:20:08.799 is huge in places like India and like other parts 2369 02:20:08.840 --> 02:20:12.600 of the world, Central and South America. RT is ginormous, 2370 02:20:13.120 --> 02:20:15.440 and so he was talking about how it's if your 2371 02:20:15.520 --> 02:20:17.879 message is to get globally. Meanwhile, it's banned here in 2372 02:20:17.920 --> 02:20:20.200 the United States, but he was talking about how they, 2373 02:20:20.399 --> 02:20:22.559 like it's the only media company he's worked for that 2374 02:20:22.639 --> 02:20:25.360 does not curate your show or your message. And gets 2375 02:20:25.360 --> 02:20:28.239 back to your point, is like they allow people to 2376 02:20:28.319 --> 02:20:32.719 have dissident information that's truthful and and it's built up 2377 02:20:32.719 --> 02:20:36.520 a credibility in which that art is trusted and incredibly 2378 02:20:36.559 --> 02:20:38.399 popular in different parts of the world. 2379 02:20:38.520 --> 02:20:42.479 Yeah, so that's a better strategy from their advantage point 2380 02:20:42.680 --> 02:20:46.920 if you're a smaller player versus a larger Western player. 2381 02:20:47.159 --> 02:20:51.639 Yeah, makes total sense. H ROSSI threw in another one 2382 02:20:51.680 --> 02:20:53.799 that have y'all seen the Sneako video with that chic 2383 02:20:54.280 --> 02:20:56.920 He's watch it. If not, you see firsthand why they 2384 02:20:56.920 --> 02:20:59.000 have no arguments that don't understand ours. Yeah, we mentioned 2385 02:20:59.000 --> 02:21:02.479 that earlier out apparently Sneak who had no idea he 2386 02:21:02.520 --> 02:21:05.840 had to believe in the Hadith. Awesome. 2387 02:21:06.120 --> 02:21:08.479 It's weird because people have been bringing up for a 2388 02:21:08.479 --> 02:21:13.079 good while now, like you know, you know you're ISLAMI 2389 02:21:13.120 --> 02:21:17.360 beliefs are more than just the Quran, right, I mean 2390 02:21:17.719 --> 02:21:18.479 it's people. 2391 02:21:18.559 --> 02:21:21.440 Would criticized if I remember right, like during life troops, 2392 02:21:21.440 --> 02:21:24.079 because he would be openly critical of things in the Hadith, 2393 02:21:24.479 --> 02:21:26.879 and then Muslims that follow him and would say you 2394 02:21:26.879 --> 02:21:29.360 can He'd like, no, no, no, I don't question the Quran. 2395 02:21:29.879 --> 02:21:31.959 It's just the hot eth you think you don't, you know, 2396 02:21:31.959 --> 02:21:34.239 he'd give an example. You think that's that's real, you 2397 02:21:34.239 --> 02:21:37.840 think that's factual. And then he talked with the She's like, 2398 02:21:37.879 --> 02:21:39.559 who are you to who are you to judge? 2399 02:21:40.479 --> 02:21:41.959 Well, this is what you get. This is what these 2400 02:21:41.959 --> 02:21:43.719 idiots are going to find out the hard way. Like, 2401 02:21:45.879 --> 02:21:48.000 maybe you should have done a little more investigating and 2402 02:21:48.079 --> 02:21:51.319 heart out some you know, some of the opponent's positions 2403 02:21:51.360 --> 02:21:53.159 before you jumped into this dumb cult. 2404 02:21:56.559 --> 02:22:02.159 So last super check at is H. Brossey Again, thank 2405 02:22:02.200 --> 02:22:04.040 you so much brother for the general support today. Say, 2406 02:22:04.040 --> 02:22:07.000 I've come to the conclusion that the tiny hats make 2407 02:22:07.079 --> 02:22:12.639 the right decision by not prostlytizing. They can't get past 2408 02:22:12.760 --> 02:22:15.360 the theophanes of the in the Old Testament and might 2409 02:22:15.399 --> 02:22:18.360 suffer the same online embarrassment as the muzzies. 2410 02:22:19.680 --> 02:22:22.120 All right, I mean I don't. I don't think the 2411 02:22:22.879 --> 02:22:27.239 you know, rabbinic philosophy and take in and believers are 2412 02:22:27.319 --> 02:22:30.280 very interested in debating. They don't. Every now and then 2413 02:22:30.280 --> 02:22:31.920 there's one who will, but it's very rare. But I 2414 02:22:31.959 --> 02:22:38.079 thought that Sam Schuman's recent debate with that young Orthodox 2415 02:22:38.159 --> 02:22:40.799 British Jewish guy was pretty good debate. And the whole 2416 02:22:40.799 --> 02:22:43.120 debate ended up being about all these theophanies. 2417 02:22:43.399 --> 02:22:51.520 So right, and then Flannams throws in five says, always 2418 02:22:51.600 --> 02:22:53.920 enjoy when DPH and J do streams together. Well, thank 2419 02:22:53.959 --> 02:22:56.559 you very much, brother, and Jay, I know that you 2420 02:22:56.639 --> 02:22:58.319 got to go do his stream apologize. 2421 02:22:58.360 --> 02:22:59.799 I moved back a little bit, so I got to 2422 02:22:59.840 --> 02:23:02.120 eat dinner and then we'll help scream after rit dinner. 2423 02:23:02.159 --> 02:23:03.239 But yeah, thank you for having me. It was a 2424 02:23:03.280 --> 02:23:05.319 great conversation. I was glad to stay long. 2425 02:23:05.879 --> 02:23:09.360 No. I I appreciate it because the overview you did 2426 02:23:09.840 --> 02:23:13.600 on that fourth hour on InfoWars, that was the best cover, 2427 02:23:13.920 --> 02:23:15.760 and you did it so can you only had because 2428 02:23:15.799 --> 02:23:19.959 the breaks you only have like thirty forty minutes, and 2429 02:23:20.000 --> 02:23:23.879 you hit on all these points about why Islam is dangerous, 2430 02:23:23.879 --> 02:23:27.079 how it's been used as a subverting force, and why 2431 02:23:27.760 --> 02:23:30.600 it's coming to take over in a militaristic way a 2432 02:23:30.600 --> 02:23:32.319 Western Europe and they're not gonna be able to stop 2433 02:23:32.360 --> 02:23:33.319 it unless they wake up. 2434 02:23:33.840 --> 02:23:34.879 So thank you. 2435 02:23:35.319 --> 02:23:38.879 And then to Ortho Orthodox Boom or Grandma just threw 2436 02:23:38.920 --> 02:23:41.280 in twenty said thank you guys, thank you, and then H. 2437 02:23:41.360 --> 02:23:43.920 Brossey said it's only right that I get past the line. Well, 2438 02:23:43.920 --> 02:23:47.040 thank you very much, H Brosey. So anyways, guys, that's 2439 02:23:47.040 --> 02:23:49.479 gonna do it. Jay's gonna be live here after eats dinner, 2440 02:23:49.520 --> 02:23:53.200 So go over to Jay's channel and we'll be watching 2441 02:23:53.239 --> 02:23:55.040 him talk a little bit about the latest on the 2442 02:23:55.079 --> 02:23:58.799 Geeza Pyramids. So God bless you guys, and I will 2443 02:23:58.799 --> 02:24:01.079 see you in the next one as always, until then, 2444 02:24:01.479 --> 02:24:02.079 God bless