Speaker 1: You did it. No, you did it. We both did it?
Speaker 2: Are we on on there? It is Welcome to the
Speaker 2: CEO pre Show for episode four eighty three.
Speaker 1: Four eighty three, Yes, sir, Holy shit, yes sir.
Speaker 3: Wow boy.
Speaker 2: We are brought to you by the wonderful patrons at
Speaker 2: patreon dot com slash Ceeal podcast.
Speaker 1: Whether they like it or not, we've got two new.
Speaker 2: Ones to think. They came into the discord. They got
Speaker 2: finger blasted seven out of ten, three.
Speaker 3: Out of five. Now what we talked about this.
Speaker 1: Man, they've ruined our whole life. I don't like it.
Speaker 1: Three and a half out of five.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I actually like that. There we go, three
Speaker 2: and a half out of five. We'll thank them tomorrow.
Speaker 2: They'll get their CEO nickname.
Speaker 3: One of the benefit, one of the benefits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and producer Gary can see a live nicknaming.
Speaker 1: Has he not been around for any of those yet?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: He probably hasn't.
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like CCO Nation has been
Speaker 2: letting us down. But now that planning for Las Vegas
Speaker 2: is underway, people are jumping on the Patreon board, if
Speaker 2: even just to be part of the planning. We're gonna
Speaker 2: I guess we can talk about it a little bit now.
Speaker 3: I put in.
Speaker 2: My creator application and part of that asks you are
Speaker 2: you or do you want to apply for like a
Speaker 2: community panel, And I said yes, So part of the
Speaker 2: Vegas planning is going to be.
Speaker 3: Community panel planning.
Speaker 2: What do you think we should talk about?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: Yep, owners huge Boners?
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of Boner, we are doing a listener submitted
Speaker 2: deck tech for the first time in months.
Speaker 4: It has been a long time and we're finally going
Speaker 4: to hit the Energy deck and see if it's ready yet. Yes,
Speaker 4: it's been supported for what five sets now?
Speaker 1: But is it there?
Speaker 3: What was it? Commander Horai what it was?
Speaker 4: Fallout, had some stuff fallout and then this most recent
Speaker 4: set it had some stuff and then the other drift
Speaker 4: whenever initial energy set came out.
Speaker 2: That's three yep, Kalidesha and ether Revolt.
Speaker 4: Back in the day, there was some energy stuff in
Speaker 4: Modern Horizons three.
Speaker 3: Was that what it was? Or was it Commander Masters?
Speaker 1: I think it was Modern Horizons three.
Speaker 3: It was one of those two.
Speaker 2: When we got it was it was was it a
Speaker 2: team or Energy deck or is that the this one
Speaker 2: with with ether drift that's this one? Yeah, well, you
Speaker 2: know what it's across all five colors, We've got probably
Speaker 2: a hundred cards. I didn't actually do a filter and
Speaker 2: scryfall to see how many cards have energy on them.
Speaker 3: But we're doing a deck on it tomorrow.
Speaker 2: And I guess if you want to guess the Commanders,
Speaker 2: you never freaking will ever.
Speaker 1: Under in no way can you do it?
Speaker 3: No? And I don't.
Speaker 4: And that's my first criticism of the deck is it
Speaker 4: has they're they're there for colors, and they suck.
Speaker 1: It's a waste of it's in my opinion, it's a
Speaker 1: waste of a command zone.
Speaker 4: Oh, if you're gonna play Commanders just for the colors,
Speaker 4: at least pick ones that are good, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? Like I'm not saying game breaking on their own,
Speaker 4: but I don't he here's a little spoiler, don't play
Speaker 4: Tanna and Timna.
Speaker 3: But like that ain't who it is.
Speaker 4: It's not who it is, because that would be really
Speaker 4: really good, because they're really really good. But like, pick
Speaker 4: something that's I would know I'm gonna stay on. Just
Speaker 4: play Saskia, especially based on some of the choices that
Speaker 4: just like what the decisions the deck has made, Saskia
Speaker 4: would actually be a really really good.
Speaker 2: Command for it, Saskia colors, I think so right, Yep, Well,
Speaker 2: I've got another criticism that i'd like to levy.
Speaker 3: Oh and you know what, it's not actually a.
Speaker 2: Criticism because it's it's all just auto generated. It's about
Speaker 2: dh REC where I went because we're bringing back the
Speaker 2: spice calculator for tomorrow. So I goes to dh REX
Speaker 2: and I says, I'm gonna look up these commanders and
Speaker 2: try and do some math to calculate how statistically spicy
Speaker 2: this deck is.
Speaker 4: Well, this is be insane because nobody's going to play
Speaker 4: this with these commanders still make no sense.
Speaker 2: Precisely and precisely. So that's not my criticism, though. My
Speaker 2: criticism is when you find partner pairs. A lot of
Speaker 2: the times, what you get when you go to EDH
Speaker 2: rec isn't necessarily what the theme of the partners or
Speaker 2: like a reflection of their synergies or why they would
Speaker 2: be put together. A lot of the times it's one
Speaker 2: of the partners gives you some kind of incremental value
Speaker 2: engine and the other partner is there for color and
Speaker 2: to thin your deck, if that's the thing. And then
Speaker 2: the EDH recommendations from media, Trick or CRAM are just
Speaker 2: a bunch of CEDH staples, and it's not really reflective
Speaker 2: of why somebody might in a casual environment want.
Speaker 1: To play that deck correct.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so a little bit of a breakdown.
Speaker 2: But uh, you know what the programmers are then, dah
Speaker 2: Trick probably smarter than me when it comes to programming.
Speaker 3: So I'm not going to tell them how to do
Speaker 3: their job.
Speaker 1: I will do better there.
Speaker 4: That's not I feel like such a like one of
Speaker 4: those like way up their bosses, like one that's just
Speaker 4: so out of touch, like a member of the board
Speaker 4: of directors that just walk in, Listen, we're not making
Speaker 4: enough money.
Speaker 1: I did all of you work harder and do better. See,
Speaker 1: I could be a corporate stooge. I'm super good to it.
Speaker 4: I sound it's very very authoritative when I said.
Speaker 2: That, you know what the irony of the corporate stooge
Speaker 2: is is.
Speaker 1: If they call yourself a stooge.
Speaker 2: No, they don't think that they're stooges. Nah, they believe
Speaker 2: they ain't stooges in their mind, in their world, they're important.
Speaker 2: They are not the stooge somebody else's.
Speaker 1: It's messed up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's ironic. It's backwards. It's not what you think.
Speaker 4: It's one of those things like you can lie to everybody,
Speaker 4: but you should never lie to yourself.
Speaker 1: You're lying to yourself sages.
Speaker 2: But they ain't because they believe. But still you're not
Speaker 2: lying when you believe it.
Speaker 1: Sure we are.
Speaker 3: Uh eh, it's not how lies work.
Speaker 1: It's exactly how lies work.
Speaker 2: Lying is when you know that you're wrong, but you're
Speaker 2: doing it anyways.
Speaker 1: There are people who believe the earth is flat lying
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 3: They are lying to no, but they're not lying because
Speaker 3: they believe it.
Speaker 1: They're saying something that is untrue. That is a lie.
Speaker 3: Oh man, we could get into this. We could get
Speaker 3: into it. Where's my good friend Aiden when we need them?
Speaker 2: Or better yet, where's Lara in the discord to argue
Speaker 2: something to the nth degree that has no actual real
Speaker 2: world application? CCO nationalites are going to know exactly what
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 1: Frick.
Speaker 2: So we got to show tomorrow Energy deck. We We've
Speaker 2: got last week's winner where we asked for people.
Speaker 1: To make make their own final fantasy cards.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, Now I want to announce the winner,
Speaker 2: but before I do, we got to talk about the
Speaker 2: booster prat game.
Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to ask you to do something on
Speaker 3: the pre show.
Speaker 2: Engage YouTube likes that, CEO likes that, and your boys
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: I've actually been really enjoying reading all the comments.
Speaker 3: So yeah, there's lots of good card submissions.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: What are we going to ask for this week?
Speaker 4: How do you feel about WATSA spoiling spoiling cards for
Speaker 4: Final Fantasy, getting everybody hype previewing cards then Spider Man, Yes,
Speaker 4: and everybody hype yes, sir, to the point that nobody
Speaker 4: even remember that Dragons of tark Here was coming up
Speaker 4: before either of those sets.
Speaker 3: Is that even what the set's called?
Speaker 4: I don't even know. I honestly don't know, and that's
Speaker 4: the problem. How do you feel about that there's an
Speaker 4: actual in world magic set coming out that even WATSA
Speaker 4: doesn't give.
Speaker 1: A shit about.
Speaker 4: Yes, and it's been made fairly obvious. How do you
Speaker 4: feel about that? Get it entered into the comments below
Speaker 4: or text, then he'd enter and we'll read it, and
Speaker 4: you'll be entered into the hat that Ryan's wearing right now.
Speaker 4: And if we pull your name out of it, you
Speaker 4: could be entered to win a CCO booster pack.
Speaker 1: No, that's not good. Oh it's a booster Yeah, there
Speaker 1: you go.
Speaker 4: A Ceco sticker pack or a Ceco token pack sits
Speaker 4: up on Ryan to see if he listens to me.
Speaker 3: Hey, couple quick things.
Speaker 1: Who won?
Speaker 2: Who cares? These hats and stickers CCO store you can
Speaker 2: find it link below. All the stickers are on sale.
Speaker 2: Stickers are on sale for tomorrow's show because we're bringing
Speaker 2: back the Spice Calculator and we got the Spice Calculator sticker.
Speaker 2: The ccovals the skullvil units, but you could also use
Speaker 2: him to denote whether your deck belongs in bracket one,
Speaker 2: two through four or five. I thought when I pulled
Speaker 2: them out of the box that they're in yesterday, and
Speaker 2: I thought, hey man, this's a good idea. Tis so
Speaker 2: the winner Martin Olsen seven one eight three?
Speaker 4: Do you think that was one who was He was
Speaker 4: born on the seventh of January in nineteen eighty three,
Speaker 4: and his name.
Speaker 1: Is Martin or mart In Olsen.
Speaker 2: In Olsen, Yeah, mister in Olson was probably trying to
Speaker 2: emulate the year that you were born. It was before
Speaker 2: common era seven to one eight three. Brando is nine
Speaker 2: thousand years old. I mean yeah, yes, okay, and he
Speaker 2: submitted a card for Youna.
Speaker 3: The summoner is that a somebody?
Speaker 1: Is that something that's the main character of Final Fantasy ten?
Speaker 3: Never heard of it?
Speaker 1: And ten two I guess as well?
Speaker 3: Ten two you mean eleven? Or is that twelve?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: I mean ten two? They had a ten to two,
Speaker 4: there was a thirteen one to two and three there's
Speaker 4: a there's a ten to two.
Speaker 3: That's the dumbest shit I ever heard.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 4: And if you've ever want to if you ever want
Speaker 4: to see a rated E for everyone video game that's
Speaker 4: very very clearly pornographic in nature. Final Fantasy ten two?
Speaker 2: Also can I call this Final Fantasy? Also number ten?
Speaker 3: That's what like?
Speaker 1: Ten? Also ten?
Speaker 3: Also? Okay? So you know the summoner.
Speaker 2: I'm going to read the stats and then you can
Speaker 2: talk about the ability. Sure it's a legendary creature human
Speaker 2: wizard five CMC blue white green.
Speaker 3: Plus two checks out, okay, power and toughness.
Speaker 2: One four sure, sure, and then got a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of ability.
Speaker 3: Do you tap her?
Speaker 4: You get a six six a on named Valla four
Speaker 4: with flying in haste, tap and exile her. Yep, and
Speaker 4: she it has these two abilities. When it attacks, tap
Speaker 4: to creature defending player controls, and you can pay blue white,
Speaker 4: green three still seven damage to target to each creature
Speaker 4: target opponent controls, and at the end of turn, unit
Speaker 4: of the summoner comes back and you exile allions you control.
Speaker 2: So a on is like a token that etb's when
Speaker 2: Una pisses off.
Speaker 4: Ye, she's a summoner, you see. So she summons the
Speaker 4: demon or the demon the creature from beyond, and then
Speaker 4: it does a thing, and then it fucks off and
Speaker 4: she's there.
Speaker 2: Again, and because get me, correct me if I'm wrong, Okay,
Speaker 2: Final Fantasy turn pay turn based RPG.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So a on VALA four comes in, messes around with
Speaker 2: some guys, gets dirty, goes to a gentleman's club, gets
Speaker 2: all hungover, bounces, and then Una comes back and says,
Speaker 2: why do you always gotta go?
Speaker 3: Aren't I good enough?
Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, that's essentially what happens. Correct. Okay, that's pretty
Speaker 1: good card.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty good card.
Speaker 4: And by pretty good I mean that would do a
Speaker 4: lot of that, do a lot of work.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The pay what is it? Pay five six six, pay
Speaker 2: six to deal seven to each creature target opponent controls.
Speaker 2: If you can infernal one player per turn, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Like in a token deck, like you might be playing
Speaker 2: in white, green, blue.
Speaker 4: And the token isn't legendary either, which probably should be.
Speaker 4: So if you have a doubling season or something, you
Speaker 4: get two.
Speaker 2: With them, Yeah, I would probably make that token legendary
Speaker 2: and this would be a mythic maybe, So then that
Speaker 2: token would be really hard to get in booster packs yea, yeah,
Speaker 2: it'd be one of those.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Also with it eliminating aon's like, maybe you'll actually end
Speaker 4: up getting a bunch of real cards with it too,
Speaker 4: and that be messed up. I feel like that might
Speaker 4: not actually happen, but it could.
Speaker 2: There we go, well, mister in Olsen, shoot us, shoot
Speaker 2: us your your actual everything and your address, and let
Speaker 2: let us know what prize you want, and we'll send
Speaker 2: you something cool.
Speaker 4: We'll send you that prize that you asked for. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 4: which is something cool? Maybe a sticker pack pretty cool,
Speaker 4: or a token pack also pretty cool, or a lame
Speaker 4: mass booster pack.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I have a bunch of those for you.
Speaker 1: I got him from face to face Kelly I forgot
Speaker 1: to bring him. Yeah, for the onion bag, for the
Speaker 1: stinky onion many. She said, let me refill the onion
Speaker 1: bag for you.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, usually he does that to me.
Speaker 2: You know what's so funny is nobody actually believes that
Speaker 2: there is a stinky onion bag.
Speaker 3: Fools, there actually is.
Speaker 2: I had it in Calgary and I'm walking around with
Speaker 2: this burlap sack that's got like twenty pounds of stuff
Speaker 2: in it, so it's just like hanging like it's got
Speaker 2: a fucking ham in it, or.
Speaker 3: Like a dead cat.
Speaker 2: And I'm walking around and I see a kid, or
Speaker 2: I see somebody that I know, or somebody who's obviously new,
Speaker 2: you know, they have that.
Speaker 3: Horror about them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I walk over and it looks like I'm coming to
Speaker 2: just heavy sack beating baby club them to death with
Speaker 2: a sack full of broken bricks. And they're looking at
Speaker 2: me like and then I whip out a booster pack
Speaker 2: and go here.
Speaker 3: You go, welcome to the event, Come play at our booth.
Speaker 3: And they're like, hey, what's this. I go, it's a
Speaker 3: freaking booster pack.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a booster pack.
Speaker 3: Let's see what you get.
Speaker 2: And then everybody's like, oh yeah, cool. So, yes, there
Speaker 2: is a real onion bag. It really is an itchy
Speaker 2: burlap sack.
Speaker 1: It is really full of magic gathering booster packs.
Speaker 2: Yes, and uh no, I've never worn it as a
Speaker 2: piece of clothing.
Speaker 1: You say that as if it's a lie.
Speaker 3: Ah.
Speaker 4: Yes, And on that note, what episode is it? Forty
Speaker 4: three for eighty three hit our theme song perbet