1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on. Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,640 go to dpeakclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,719 smartphone or tablet, and again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:33,039 your support. So, whilst watching the Charlotte City Council meeting 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,719 that was held last night, it was a public forum. 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,439 They do this once a month. Everybody gets to come down, 12 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,479 You get two minutes to speak and you people seek 13 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,719 redress and then go largely ignored by the elected leaders. 14 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:55,240 And this is a time honored tradition. So there were 15 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,359 people that came down about the animal care control facility 16 00:00:59,439 --> 00:01:03,880 right the they need more space for dogs and stuff. 17 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,359 And they've been they've been regulars. They've been coming down 18 00:01:06,359 --> 00:01:09,120 there for years trying to get the city council to 19 00:01:09,239 --> 00:01:14,439 expand shelter space, which I support. By the way, you 20 00:01:14,519 --> 00:01:18,879 had the airport workers. They came down there right making 21 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,560 an argument that somehow another the city should dictate federal 22 00:01:22,599 --> 00:01:29,280 aviation policy or something on pay. And then there was 23 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,799 a woman who came down. Her name is Jala Gittons, 24 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,280 and a supporter of hers as well named Amanda O'Hara. 25 00:01:38,879 --> 00:01:43,120 And I remember hearing about this story when it first occurred. 26 00:01:43,159 --> 00:01:48,519 It's been two months. But Jala Giddons had her car 27 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:55,480 stolen and in the car was her dog. And it's 28 00:01:55,519 --> 00:01:59,519 been two months, and here's the story she told the 29 00:01:59,599 --> 00:02:02,519 Charlotte City Council last night. 30 00:02:04,359 --> 00:02:13,599 Speaker 2: Our next speakers are Jayla Gittens and Amanda O'Hara. 31 00:02:14,199 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: Alright, she's walking to the podium now. 32 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,479 Speaker 2: Hello, good evening. My name is Jayla Gittens. I'm a 33 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,280 Charlotte resident of ten over ten years, and I'm coming 34 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,120 to talk to you today about a crime that has 35 00:02:27,199 --> 00:02:30,199 left me heartbroken and frustrated with a system that seems 36 00:02:30,199 --> 00:02:33,680 to protect perpetrators more than the people they hurt. On 37 00:02:33,719 --> 00:02:36,479 April six, my car was stolen along with my six 38 00:02:36,599 --> 00:02:39,240 year old dog, Julio, while I was moving out of 39 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,120 my apartment. If you're an animal lover, I'm sure you 40 00:02:42,199 --> 00:02:44,319 understand just how much my dog means to me. They 41 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,680 truly are a member of the family. Five days After 42 00:02:47,719 --> 00:02:50,479 the initial crime, my car was found damaged with my 43 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,280 items missing, and my dog, Jolio, has not been seen. 44 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: Since the heartbreak up. 45 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,159 Speaker 2: Losing him is something that I really do carry every day. 46 00:03:00,039 --> 00:03:02,199 But what has made the situation even worse is what 47 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,439 I've observed about our juvenile justice system since the theft. 48 00:03:06,479 --> 00:03:10,240 I've received messages and calls from the juveniles responsible, as 49 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,879 well as their adult family members, threatening me, taunting me, 50 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,800 even trying to extort me for my dog. This isn't 51 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,879 just a petty crime. This is cruel, deliberate, and calculated 52 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,800 behavior Psychologically. Most of the kids involved were sent home 53 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,759 with no real consequences from parents or the law, and 54 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,199 no accountability. I was disappointed to find out how few 55 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,120 rights victims have when miners are involved. I couldn't get 56 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:37,919 a police report to prove to my job why I 57 00:03:37,919 --> 00:03:40,319 missed work. I wasn't allowed to know the names of 58 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,439 the juveniles or even their parents. In the situation, I 59 00:03:43,479 --> 00:03:44,960 felt like I was left in the dark while the 60 00:03:45,039 --> 00:03:47,599 kids who stole from me and threatened me went back 61 00:03:47,639 --> 00:03:50,680 to school like nothing ever happened. Some of these kids 62 00:03:50,719 --> 00:03:53,560 are repeat offenders, and these crimes aren't isolated incidents. These 63 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,520 are patterns that the system is allowing to continue. If 64 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,960 there are no consequences, why wouldn't they keep doing it. 65 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: That's the reality. 66 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,879 Speaker 2: We're living in a juvenile justice system that sends kids 67 00:04:03,919 --> 00:04:06,919 back into the same environments with no accountability for them 68 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,400 or their guardians. A system that teaches young offenders that 69 00:04:10,439 --> 00:04:14,280 they can steal, lie and threaten without any real repercussions. 70 00:04:15,039 --> 00:04:17,439 I'm here tonight because that has to change. We need 71 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,720 stronger protections for victims. We need real consequences for juvenile offenders, 72 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,040 especially repeat offenders. 73 00:04:23,319 --> 00:04:30,319 Speaker 3: Thank you, Veron, Thank you so much. Misgittens, miskittens, mis gittens. 74 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,319 Speaker 2: See this young man walking down that way, his name 75 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,480 is Sean He and if you would have an opportunity 76 00:04:37,519 --> 00:04:39,560 to talk with him a little bit more about this, 77 00:04:39,759 --> 00:04:43,000 this would be very helpful. Thank you very much. 78 00:04:43,519 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 3: So. 79 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:49,399 Speaker 1: Part of the problem here is state law, right, remember 80 00:04:49,439 --> 00:04:53,560 the big push to not hold juveniles to the same 81 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,959 punishment standards as adults, because that's not fair. They're just children. 82 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,360 And we got legislation just this session up in Raleigh 83 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:12,199 that Democrats opposed to add more crimes into the bucket 84 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,879 where das can prosecute as adults. But those decisions are 85 00:05:16,959 --> 00:05:24,560 discretionary for the das and the judges. So, first off, 86 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,800 as a person who has moved in and out of 87 00:05:26,959 --> 00:05:31,600 apartments many, many, many times in my life, it is 88 00:05:31,639 --> 00:05:35,399 a very unsecure way to move. And if you've never 89 00:05:35,519 --> 00:05:37,920 moved in and out of an apartment, particularly an apartment 90 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,040 that is like a high rise apartment, like you go 91 00:05:42,199 --> 00:05:44,519 up in an elevator, Basically you got to move everything 92 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,040 in an elevator and. 93 00:05:48,759 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 4: What like. 94 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: We hired some you know, movers to help us, and 95 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,480 they just pile everything in the lobby, or they pile 96 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:01,720 everything by the elevator door, and then they just move everything. 97 00:06:02,199 --> 00:06:04,000 You know, you got one person moving stuff out of 98 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,439 the root, out of the apartment unit to the elevator 99 00:06:07,759 --> 00:06:09,920 and they're just doing that, and then you got somebody 100 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,879 else in the elevator riding it up and down and 101 00:06:12,959 --> 00:06:17,920 bringing it to the truck. And when we had stuff 102 00:06:17,959 --> 00:06:21,360 stolen in one of our moves, it wasn't a car, 103 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,560 but somebody made off with a box and it took 104 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,040 years for us to figure out all of the contents 105 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,279 of the box. By figuring out, hey, whatever happened to 106 00:06:31,319 --> 00:06:34,040 our wedding valves that we had in our frame. Yeah, 107 00:06:34,079 --> 00:06:38,000 it's missing, along with a frying pan, the big one 108 00:06:38,199 --> 00:06:41,399 like that. They were in one box together. Don't look no, 109 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,399 don't Christy packed that box. Okay, I am very specific 110 00:06:45,439 --> 00:06:48,839 when I pack boxes. Everything goes in the same kind 111 00:06:48,879 --> 00:06:53,120 of thing anyway, But we figured out that somebody had 112 00:06:53,439 --> 00:06:57,199 stolen one of the boxes, either at the elevator or 113 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,839 on the truck, right when you load everything into the 114 00:07:00,879 --> 00:07:03,399 truck and stuff is sitting around the truck and unless 115 00:07:03,879 --> 00:07:08,000 after that we learned we posted people at the truck. 116 00:07:08,439 --> 00:07:11,160 Somebody stayed at the truck the whole time, someone stayed 117 00:07:11,199 --> 00:07:14,759 at the elevator the whole time, and someone stayed up 118 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,680 at the apartment the whole time. And so if you 119 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,959 don't have that kind of you know, uh, that kind 120 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,600 of operation going, it is very easy to steal from 121 00:07:25,639 --> 00:07:27,839 people when they're moving in and out of apartments. So 122 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,839 I completely understand what she's talking about here. She puts 123 00:07:30,839 --> 00:07:33,439 stuff in her car, right, she was loading up her car, 124 00:07:33,519 --> 00:07:36,879 put her dog in there, and some punks stole her 125 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,920 car with the dog in it. And that's one thing. 126 00:07:39,959 --> 00:07:42,959 It's called grand theft auto. I was under the impression 127 00:07:42,959 --> 00:07:47,600 that that was a serious crime, right, that's a serious offense, 128 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,759 but apparently not if you're a fifteen year old punk 129 00:07:51,879 --> 00:07:55,519 and then you steal the woman's dog and then you 130 00:07:55,639 --> 00:08:00,319 engage in a syop against her, threatening her, extorting her, 131 00:08:01,519 --> 00:08:05,040 mocking her. I mean, God only knows what they may 132 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:10,759 do to her dog. How is this? How is this possible? 133 00:08:10,759 --> 00:08:13,079 Like to me, this is a very easy thing to 134 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:18,759 go investigate if you are CMPD No, Like, you know 135 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,079 who the people are. You know they have my dog, 136 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,120 Go get my dog. How do you not go get 137 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,879 the dog and then charge the person for stealing the dog? 138 00:08:30,759 --> 00:08:33,200 You already charged them for stealing the car. You know 139 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:39,399 who they are. Let me uh, let me go over 140 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,639 here to Brian real quick. Hello Brian, welcome to the show. 141 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 4: Hi Pete, thanks you taking my call. Yeah sure, I 142 00:08:46,039 --> 00:08:49,440 feel like my comments don't match your what you just 143 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,320 said about Christy and her dog. But here's my comments. 144 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,120 Listening to you talk about the city council. 145 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's all in the same ball of poop. 146 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,879 Speaker 4: All right, here's my observations. Number one, when I listened 147 00:08:59,879 --> 00:09:04,000 to the council talk, my sense is they're not very competent. 148 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: Number two, No, number two. 149 00:09:08,759 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 4: Number two, there's no accountability. Number three, what do they 150 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,759 actually do? So I went online and I try to 151 00:09:14,799 --> 00:09:18,080 figure out what their salaries were, and roughly I've come 152 00:09:18,159 --> 00:09:21,720 up with the mayor's salary and the city council member 153 00:09:21,799 --> 00:09:25,519 salary is roughly around five hundred thousand dollars a year, 154 00:09:25,639 --> 00:09:26,879 and that includes benefits. 155 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: That's all that. 156 00:09:28,759 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 4: They sound like a fair number, not per person, no, 157 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,000 no aggregate though, right right, I think they are. 158 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're each paid like fifty k. 159 00:09:39,919 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 4: So according to the article I read online, which might 160 00:09:43,399 --> 00:09:47,519 not be accurate, sixty thousand for the mayor, okay, and 161 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,879 that includes benefits and salary, right, and then fifty two 162 00:09:50,919 --> 00:09:56,080 thousand that includes benefits and salary for the council members, 163 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,679 which roughly is just shy of five hundred thousand a year. 164 00:09:59,759 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think that's I think that's accurate 165 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:06,200 because if I recall correctly, when the activist Braxton Winston 166 00:10:06,639 --> 00:10:08,919 ran for council, that was a big push of his 167 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,360 was to was to get paid. He wanted Yeah, he 168 00:10:12,399 --> 00:10:14,840 wanted a full time salary for the for the. 169 00:10:14,919 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 4: Job, okay. And so every year or every two year, 170 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,600 every year they want more money. What did they do 171 00:10:23,159 --> 00:10:24,440 where's the account billing? 172 00:10:24,519 --> 00:10:27,639 Speaker 1: Hello, Brian, I just played, Brian, I just played sound 173 00:10:27,639 --> 00:10:30,559 bites of what they do. You like, that's what they do. 174 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 4: That's it. Do anything. 175 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,279 Speaker 1: No, they have meetings and they take votes on stuff, 176 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,759 and they hold their town hall. Oh, by the way, 177 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:44,240 Tijuana Brown is hosting a town hall tonight. Maybe you 178 00:10:44,279 --> 00:10:46,399 could go down and ask her what she does, I 179 00:10:46,399 --> 00:10:47,720 mean besides the fraud and all. 180 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,279 Speaker 4: But yeah, you will you provide the bail money? 181 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,039 Speaker 1: Yeah? No, No, I work in radio, not city government, 182 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,399 so that's not gonna happen. All right, Brian, good to 183 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:04,200 hear from you. Allright, buddy, take it easy. Yeah, Look, 184 00:11:04,279 --> 00:11:07,200 I know it is a lot of work. It is. 185 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,360 They go to a lot of meetings, they talk to 186 00:11:09,399 --> 00:11:10,919 a lot of people. They have to do a lot 187 00:11:10,919 --> 00:11:14,679 of reading of the material before the meetings. I'm not 188 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,360 saying they do that they're supposed to. Sometimes you can 189 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:20,720 tell who hasn't done their homework by the questions that 190 00:11:20,759 --> 00:11:25,120 they ask. And I've talked about this before, but part 191 00:11:25,159 --> 00:11:29,000 of the problem is it is a staff driven model, right, 192 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,600 Because we are a council manager form of government. The 193 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:37,399 council relies on the manager and the manager's staff to 194 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,159 act as the quote professionals, and that puts you as 195 00:11:41,279 --> 00:11:44,879 a council member. It puts you sort of at the 196 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,480 mercy of the manager, even though you are the one 197 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,000 that hired them, because if they don't help you do 198 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,799 your job, especially the newbies when they come in, you 199 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,960 will know what you're doing. You get frozen out, you 200 00:11:57,039 --> 00:12:00,879 cross people's paths or something, and you know they or 201 00:12:00,879 --> 00:12:02,919 you cross them, and they don't like you, they don't 202 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,759 help you. If they do like you, they do help you. 203 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,759 That's politics, man, politics, all right. If you're listening to 204 00:12:10,799 --> 00:12:12,320 this show, you know I try to keep up with 205 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,480 all sorts of current events, and I know you do too. 206 00:12:14,639 --> 00:12:17,159 And you've probably heard me say get your news from 207 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,799 multiple sources. 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Juvenile crime has 227 00:13:29,519 --> 00:13:34,279 been a problem for years, right, and it seems like 228 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:39,080 there is virtually no political will to address the situation. 229 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,759 There's some up in Raleigh to dial back some of 230 00:13:43,799 --> 00:13:49,559 these quote reforms that everybody got guilt tripped into after 231 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:54,279 Saint George Floyd died up in Minneapolis. But the reforms 232 00:13:54,279 --> 00:13:57,799 are not working okay, In fact, they've made things worse. 233 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,799 Now you have juvenile that are employed in the service 234 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:08,960 of gang's organized crime, or just like an older friend 235 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,559 who knows that if I have you steal the cars, 236 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,679 then nothing will happen to you. So you steal the 237 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,799 car and bring it to me and I'll take care 238 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,360 of it. And that this way, I don't get the 239 00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:24,000 big charges you do, and then they throw them out 240 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:29,480 or and your record's expunged and everything else. You've created 241 00:14:29,519 --> 00:14:32,200 a whole new set of problems. Trade offs people, right, 242 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,240 there are no solutions. There are only trade offs, as 243 00:14:35,279 --> 00:14:41,559 Thomas Soule said, So here's the deal. Apparently, juvenile crime 244 00:14:41,639 --> 00:14:45,679 can get so bad and nobody will care as long 245 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,440 as they are either murdering each other or they are 246 00:14:49,559 --> 00:14:57,000 stealing cars. But you steal a dog, and now you're 247 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:02,600 in trouble. Now, See this moves people. This will move 248 00:15:02,679 --> 00:15:05,360 people that you stole my car with my dog and 249 00:15:05,399 --> 00:15:09,159 now you're holding it for ransom and you're taunting. You're 250 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,679 taunting me, you're trying to extort me. And for some reason, 251 00:15:13,759 --> 00:15:19,279 law enforcement doesn't care. Law enforcement owns dogs, they're on 252 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,960 the payroll. You would think they would care. Anyway. Let 253 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,799 me go over to Dane. Hello, Dane, welcome to the show. 254 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 5: Hey Pete, how are you doing. 255 00:15:28,159 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 4: Hey? 256 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: I'm good. What's going on? 257 00:15:30,279 --> 00:15:30,519 Speaker 4: Hey? 258 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,559 Speaker 5: Being in previous law enforcement, I've called your show many times. 259 00:15:35,399 --> 00:15:37,120 I was just want to reiterate what you just said 260 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,639 about juveniles being employed by gangs. I worked just outside 261 00:15:41,679 --> 00:15:45,159 of Charlotte for almost twenty years, and that's what we 262 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,879 found was older people recruiting fifteen, fourteen, thirteen year olds 263 00:15:49,879 --> 00:15:54,200 to steal cars and breaking the stores or feel more cars, 264 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,440 get guns, And that's where it precipitates from. They're getting 265 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,879 told what to do. And as a law enforcement officer, 266 00:16:03,039 --> 00:16:05,960 we arrest these juveniles and they're out within twenty four 267 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,639 hours because there is no you know, if it's not 268 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,559 a violent crime, they're not going to hold them in 269 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:17,080 ps in the juvenile system. Yeah, and I agree with 270 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,080 everything you just said. 271 00:16:18,159 --> 00:16:19,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they turn them back over to parents that 272 00:16:20,039 --> 00:16:23,480 obviously don't give a flying rip about what they're behaving, 273 00:16:23,679 --> 00:16:25,879 what they're engaged in, the behavior they're engaged. 274 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 5: In one I mean, and that's what it is. It's 275 00:16:29,039 --> 00:16:32,919 the parents are not taking they're not taking it seriously 276 00:16:32,919 --> 00:16:35,759 because they're like they well, you know and when they're eighteen, 277 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,159 well they'll get expunged and they don't have to worry 278 00:16:38,159 --> 00:16:38,519 about it. 279 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:38,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. 280 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: In the meantime, they're making money. 281 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's easy for a twenty five year old man 282 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,519 to recruit a fifteen year old go seal car, break 283 00:16:47,559 --> 00:16:50,200 into a liquor store or a gun store, steal whatever 284 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,480 they want. They don't get the charges. Yeah, they know 285 00:16:53,559 --> 00:16:55,399 that the juvenile is going to go for twenty four 286 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,360 hours and then go back with the parents. 287 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then be right back out. They like this 288 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,600 woman said, within twenty four hours. They were back out 289 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,880 less than twenty four hours, and they went to school 290 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,279 the next day, and then they're sending text messages. I 291 00:17:07,279 --> 00:17:09,759 don't know how they got our information, but I guess, 292 00:17:09,799 --> 00:17:12,079 you know, probably in the neighborhood they see the flyers 293 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,000 or something, or I don't know, maybe the police report. 294 00:17:15,039 --> 00:17:17,720 Because the police report lists her name as the victim, 295 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,759 but not their names because they're juveniles. 296 00:17:21,319 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 5: Juve, it gets redacted. It's all blacked out. I mean, 297 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,799 her name will be on the report and it's public information, 298 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,400 so yeah, they can get her information, but obviously if 299 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,440 you're under the age, it's going to be redacting, blacked out. Yeah, 300 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,359 and it's frustrating. As a law enforcement officer, it was very, 301 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,680 very frustrating because you spend hours and hours and hours 302 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,599 working a case and building a case against the juvenile 303 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,279 just to have it thrown back in your face and 304 00:17:44,319 --> 00:17:45,799 say no, we're not going to we're not going to 305 00:17:45,839 --> 00:17:47,240 prosecute because he's fifteen. 306 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, It's just it's nuts. The whole thing is nuts. 307 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:57,839 Speaker 5: And from a law enforcement perspective, the officer's care, they 308 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,920 solved the crime for the victim, are doing their best. 309 00:18:01,079 --> 00:18:01,759 That's what they do. 310 00:18:01,799 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: What's your read on why they wouldn't have gone? Why 311 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,839 they wouldn't have gone? They know who has the dog, obviously, 312 00:18:08,279 --> 00:18:10,200 so why don't they go and get the dog? 313 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 5: Can you prove they have the dog? 314 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: They stole the car, they were charged with stealing the car. 315 00:18:16,839 --> 00:18:17,599 Speaker 5: I understand them. 316 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: And they got all the text messages taunting the woman, 317 00:18:20,079 --> 00:18:22,160 extorting her, trying to get money for the dog and 318 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:22,559 all of this. 319 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 5: You have to have established a serious probable cause to 320 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,200 get a search want to go get into somebody's house to. 321 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 4: Find a dog. 322 00:18:30,039 --> 00:18:32,279 Speaker 5: And I'm not disagreeing with you, and I understand you 323 00:18:32,279 --> 00:18:36,160 have text messages, you have the stolen car that was recovered. 324 00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:39,680 Hopefully they did a forensic on the car, got fingerprints 325 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,039 and all that. You have to build the case before 326 00:18:42,039 --> 00:18:44,599 you can just rush in. And I know that sounds silly, 327 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,640 but you have to be very meticulous about how you 328 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,319 do it because if you do it wrong and then 329 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,519 the officers have fault in. 330 00:18:54,079 --> 00:18:56,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Dane, I appreciate the call, buddy. Good 331 00:18:56,279 --> 00:18:57,000 to hear from you. 332 00:18:57,079 --> 00:18:59,279 Speaker 4: Yes, sir, right, good talk you, thank you too. 333 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know. I just two months seems like 334 00:19:01,799 --> 00:19:03,400 a long time. And if they've got all the text 335 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,279 messages like this woman claims, like, how do you not 336 00:19:07,319 --> 00:19:09,559 go to a judge and get a warrant? 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If law enforcement dug deeper, 364 00:20:42,759 --> 00:20:46,720 it's likely these gangs have a hierarchy and rico charges 365 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:52,319 would be in order. Racketeering. Yeah, that's possible. But again, 366 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,960 you you have to have a DA that wants to 367 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,279 prosecute this stuff, and you have to have judges that 368 00:20:59,559 --> 00:21:04,920 will hand and down harsh sentences. These are all choices. 369 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,160 These are all choices that voters make to put people 370 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,200 into office on these quote unquote reform platforms that basically 371 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,680 say you can get away with crime, and that is 372 00:21:17,759 --> 00:21:21,960 how you kill a city, That's how you kill a society. 373 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 4: Right. 374 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: The criminals do not allow the law abiding people to 375 00:21:27,839 --> 00:21:31,559 carry about their daily business. And when you do not 376 00:21:31,799 --> 00:21:36,480 have that element in your society, then all you will 377 00:21:36,559 --> 00:21:40,160 have is the criminal element. Because people who are law 378 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,960 abiding and choose to continue to you know, not harm 379 00:21:44,039 --> 00:21:48,240 other people, not take their stuff, they will leave people 380 00:21:48,559 --> 00:21:52,920 who were otherwise law abiding. But now see that, Hey, 381 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:58,720 this opportunity exists for me to just hurt other people 382 00:21:58,759 --> 00:22:01,599 and take their stuff, and I can make more money 383 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,440 doing that without any kind of ramifications to myself, Well 384 00:22:05,599 --> 00:22:11,359 I'm gonna do that, which then creates a greater preference 385 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,640 cascade in that city or in that society. You know, 386 00:22:15,799 --> 00:22:19,480 Charlotte is on a pathway here to a not good place, 387 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,119 and it's not going to get off the path unless 388 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,759 the people who are in the leadership positions do something different. 389 00:22:30,839 --> 00:22:34,200 You have to change course because the thing that you 390 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,160 were sold and you sold to us is not working. 391 00:22:39,079 --> 00:22:44,400 It is not working. Let me play this second clip. 392 00:22:45,559 --> 00:22:50,920 This is from Hang On, Hang On Amanda O'Hara. She 393 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:56,000 is a supporter of the woman Jayla Geittons, who had 394 00:22:56,039 --> 00:23:00,559 her dog stolen and then has been some for the 395 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:06,559 last two months as the punks threaten her, the punk's 396 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,880 family members threaten her, taunt her, send her messages because again, 397 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:16,000 her information is public because she's an adult, but theirs 398 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:21,079 is all blacked out, redacted on the police reports. She 399 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,519 can't get information, she can't get stuff about them because 400 00:23:25,079 --> 00:23:35,279 they're kids. Yeah, they're criminals, is what they are. Thank you, 401 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:36,799 Thank you, I appreciate that. 402 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 3: Okay, good evening. My name is Amanda O'Hara. Nearly two months. 403 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,440 That is how long Jayla has been living this nightmare, 404 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,960 and how long Julio has been missing since he was 405 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,000 stolen in a brazen crime by a juvenile in our city. 406 00:23:52,559 --> 00:23:55,640 The crimes committed should not go unchecked. We are not 407 00:23:55,799 --> 00:23:58,079 talking about just the stolen car. We were talking about 408 00:23:58,079 --> 00:24:02,200 stolen dog, stolen car, an extortion. Today it's a dog, 409 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,559 Tomorrow it could be a kid. We are here tonight 410 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:10,799 for answers, accountability and justice. Reports show that just last year, 411 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,240 sixty one percent of juveniles arrested in Charlotte will repeat offenders. 412 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,519 Many cases that go to the District Attorney's Office involving 413 00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:22,799 juveniles will not even see a courtroom. This is not working. 414 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,119 We are here tonight to ask that we get some 415 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,079 sort of justice and accountability. CMPD is doing the work 416 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,119 arresting the teens. How are the judges and DA's office 417 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,200 continue to put the community at risk by not taking 418 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,799 crime seriously? As many of you know, we have email 419 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,759 City Council, the DA's office, CMPD, Chief Jennings, Captain Brian Crumb, 420 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,200 the principal of North Mech High School, among others. The 421 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,759 city council members present tonight not and clude not, including 422 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,799 newly sworn in City Councilman Peacock the only one to 423 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:58,400 respond with City Councilwoman Renee Johnson. Miners are not above 424 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,519 the law because of their age. Where is Julio? The 425 00:25:01,559 --> 00:25:04,400 community has poured in tips, conducted their own community patrols, 426 00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:08,400 and place flyers in various areas. When I asked CMPD 427 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,200 if they would hold a press conference to spread the 428 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,319 word about Julio, why was I told no. We demand 429 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,720 justice for Julio and for Jala. I asked represent Johnson 430 00:25:17,799 --> 00:25:20,359 of District four where the crime occurred, Mayor Lyles and 431 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,039 City Manager Jones to request from CMPD a daily log 432 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,279 or report of progress made in Julio's case, to ensure 433 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,480 that this is not being pushed to the wayside, and 434 00:25:29,519 --> 00:25:33,839 to guarantee justice and accountability get served. We will not 435 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,920 stop until Julio comes home, all right. 436 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: So there was the second speaker on this topic. There 437 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,440 was one thing that she mentioned there, the stats, and 438 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:51,359 it's in this story over at WBTV. She said, reports 439 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,160 show that just last year, sixty one percent of juveniles 440 00:25:55,240 --> 00:26:03,680 arrested in Charlotte were repeat offenders. Oh, this has always 441 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,319 been the case, people, This has always been the case. 442 00:26:08,759 --> 00:26:18,119 A small percentage account for a large number of crimes. 443 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,200 And so, just as Sheriff Gary not my fault, McFadden 444 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,480 doesn't believe that you can deport in order to solve 445 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,519 the illegal immigration process. It appears that I guess the 446 00:26:28,599 --> 00:26:32,119 DA's office and a bunch of judges don't believe that 447 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:38,079 incarceration can solve the crime wave committed by a handful 448 00:26:38,079 --> 00:26:43,200 of people. The numbers are supported by the city's own data. 449 00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:49,599 According to WBTV, there were almost seventeen hundred juvenile arrests 450 00:26:49,839 --> 00:26:57,720 last year. Seventeen hundred. I'm trying to do the math 451 00:26:57,759 --> 00:27:00,119 on that, and that's like what five or six a day, 452 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:09,559 And of the seventeen hundred, over a thousand were repeat offenders. 453 00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:14,720 This is a choice. This is a choice. And if 454 00:27:14,759 --> 00:27:20,240 you're going to make this choice, District Attorney's office, judges, 455 00:27:21,319 --> 00:27:25,160 elected leaders, if this is your choice, you should have 456 00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:31,440 the stones to say it. I choose to put your family, 457 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:39,079 your pets, your property in jeopardy, to repeat, repeat, repeat, 458 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,440 repeat offenders here a time of renewings because they are 459 00:27:43,599 --> 00:27:47,880 worth more anniversaries. 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As the mom 479 00:28:51,759 --> 00:28:54,920 to two dogs, I'm sick that they've had her dog 480 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,440 in godness, what they're doing to her to the dog. 481 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,960 And I was wondering because I didn't hear the whole 482 00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:03,079 story I was driving. Did she specify how much they're 483 00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:05,759 trying to extort her for to get the dog back? 484 00:29:06,119 --> 00:29:10,279 Speaker 1: No, she didn't say what they've demanded of her, but 485 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,960 she has offered one thousand dollars rewards, So I would 486 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,160 guess it's more than that. 487 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,119 Speaker 6: Because I either gofund me or if I could, I 488 00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:23,039 would take the money out of my savings and try 489 00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:25,279 to help her get that dog back, because that just 490 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,079 I mean, I'd end up in jail for what I 491 00:29:27,119 --> 00:29:28,799 would do to them to get my dog back. But 492 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,160 that's aside from the point. Is there any way to 493 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,880 find out how I mean, any way to contact her 494 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,200 or the other woman who spoke for her to see 495 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,240 if we can help her just raise the money to 496 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,079 get her dog back. 497 00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:42,119 Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, I don't know. I mean I know, 498 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,799 I mean I gave her name. It was Jayala Gitton's 499 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,319 Jay and the dog's name is Julio. So there's obviously 500 00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:54,920 a big effort online underway to try to find Julio. 501 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,720 I think it's where's Julio? He's not down at the schoolyard, 502 00:29:57,759 --> 00:29:59,319 I can tell you, But yeah, I. 503 00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:01,759 Speaker 6: Know, I'll I'll search for that, thank you. The other 504 00:30:01,799 --> 00:30:04,200 thing in the category of how much are they getting 505 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,720 paid and what the hell do they do for it? 506 00:30:06,079 --> 00:30:09,079 Am I remembering correctly? Because this is an article from 507 00:30:09,079 --> 00:30:10,759 a couple of years ago, and I thought I could 508 00:30:10,759 --> 00:30:12,680 never go to the city council meeting to talk about this, 509 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,599 because again, I'd be dragged out of the meeting. Does 510 00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:18,880 the city manager really make five hundred thousand dollars? And 511 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,759 if he does, what the hell does he do for that? 512 00:30:20,839 --> 00:30:23,119 I don't even know the guy's name, and I think. 513 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,279 Speaker 1: Marcus as Yeah, Marcus Jones is the manager's name. Trying 514 00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:29,839 to I don't know what his salary is, but it 515 00:30:29,839 --> 00:30:33,359 would not surprise me if all of the top three posts, 516 00:30:33,359 --> 00:30:36,359 the county manager, city manager, and the superintendent probably all 517 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,440 make about that. 518 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,519 Speaker 6: I mean, that's more than the President of the United States. 519 00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:45,279 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, when we're talking about the superintendent for CMS, 520 00:30:45,839 --> 00:30:49,559 he's he's educating the children of the future, you know. So, 521 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,359 I mean, can you really put a price on that, Gigi, really? 522 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,759 Speaker 6: You know, after the guy, after the guy that they 523 00:30:56,799 --> 00:30:58,960 brought in a couple of years ago. We're from like 524 00:30:59,079 --> 00:31:01,759 Virginia who then hired his wife and Hi, I mean, 525 00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:06,400 it's just I don't even know what to say about 526 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,880 Charlotte's And just in the twelve years I've been here, 527 00:31:10,359 --> 00:31:17,359 the change has been so dramatic, shocking, alarming. Yeah, it's 528 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,640 hard to even wrap my brain around the other thing 529 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,240 I was thinking about, because you said this is really 530 00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:25,839 an issue about the youth offenders, a state issue. I'm 531 00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:28,000 embarrassed to say, I don't even know who the heck 532 00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:31,200 are represented aves are, but really, why shouldn't they be 533 00:31:31,279 --> 00:31:35,359 dragged into this conversation as well, because if they're our representatives, 534 00:31:35,359 --> 00:31:38,440 shouldn't they be representing us in Raleigh about this issue? 535 00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:38,759 Speaker 4: Yeah? 536 00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: Well they've they're running legislation and I don't know where 537 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,200 you live, so I don't know what district you're in, 538 00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:48,400 but chances are you're being represented in Raleigh by Democrats 539 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,400 and so they have no power or voice. But if 540 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,839 they were to try to open up more of the 541 00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:02,119 offenses from protected staff as a juvenile to let das 542 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,720 charge as adults, the problem is that the decisions are 543 00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:09,319 still up to the das on whether to bring the charges, 544 00:32:09,359 --> 00:32:11,839 whether to plead the mout. It's up to the judges, 545 00:32:12,279 --> 00:32:16,240 and we don't know. I don't know what the judge is. 546 00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:18,240 Somebody asked me in an email who the judge is 547 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,039 in this case, and I wish you would have said that, 548 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,519 because that judge needs to be called out too. But 549 00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:25,680 we ye, and this is part of the problem is 550 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,160 that you have the different levels. You know, you have 551 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,359 state legislators making the laws. They did their you know reforms, 552 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,279 quote unquote. They have since clawed back some of the 553 00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:40,440 more serious offenses in order to combat this juvenile crime wave. 554 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,359 And it's not enough and they have to do more. 555 00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:46,519 And I will say though, that they ran the bill, 556 00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:48,640 and they ran a bill, and we covered it a 557 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,680 couple of weeks ago, and it did pass in the 558 00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:53,680 in one of the chambers I think it was the House, 559 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,960 and it went over to the Senate. So there are 560 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,240 some efforts underway at the state level. I don't know 561 00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:02,400 if it's enough. I think they need to go. I 562 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,119 think they need to do more and go. 563 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,759 Speaker 6: Harsher is mister Merriweather still the district attorney. 564 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,079 Speaker 1: He is, So why, like I. 565 00:33:12,039 --> 00:33:14,759 Speaker 6: Mean, and again, why can't we use the tactics of 566 00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:18,039 the left and go protests outside his office? 567 00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:22,319 Speaker 1: You could? You could absolutely do that, absolutely, And you 568 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,839 got a great poster dog for the effort, because this 569 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:32,640 dog is adorable. It's a little French bulldog. Oh my god, Yeah, 570 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:38,160 it's adorable. So yeah, and so it checks boxes and 571 00:33:38,759 --> 00:33:41,279 it's like, got you got a branding campaign ready to 572 00:33:41,319 --> 00:33:43,119 go Giji. It's a good idea. Let me know if 573 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,559 you organize it. I appreciate the call, Thank you so much. 574 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,839 And yes, Marcus Jones made four hundred and eighty thousand 575 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,119 dollars last year. All right, that'll do it for this episode. 576 00:33:53,119 --> 00:33:55,200 Thank you so much for listening. I could not do 577 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,400 the show without your support and the support of the 578 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,519 businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, 579 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,720 please support them too and tell them you heard it here. 580 00:34:02,839 --> 00:34:05,359 You can also become a patron at my Patreon page 581 00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:09,079 or go to thepetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so 582 00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:12,559 much for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.