WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.799 --> 00:00:17.359 Get ready for Hey. 2 00:00:13.039 --> 00:00:16.399 Only six and a half minutes late on August thirty, 3 00:00:16.559 --> 00:00:19.719 twenty twenty four. Allegedly, according to that thing we call 4 00:00:19.719 --> 00:00:23.280 a calendar, this is the live Ocelli effect. Although most 5 00:00:23.320 --> 00:00:26.800 of you catch the podcast, I'm hoping for live listenership 6 00:00:26.839 --> 00:00:29.879 tonight because on Fridays, and I put out a little 7 00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:33.920 notice again on Fridays we take your calls. You guys 8 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:35.759 get to tell us what we're going to talk about. 9 00:00:36.079 --> 00:00:39.520 Cuz it's you. It's your prerogative. Whatever it is you 10 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:43.640 want to bring up, you can do that. Now. Somebody 11 00:00:43.679 --> 00:00:45.840 came into the chat room and was rather hateful a 12 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:50.000 little earlier, and I bobbed them out of their removed 13 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:52.840 them from the chat room because abuse, just straight up 14 00:00:52.880 --> 00:00:56.079 abuse is not necessary. And it's our old friend of 15 00:00:56.159 --> 00:00:58.719 meir who hates me and wants me to die. So 16 00:00:59.119 --> 00:01:03.479 you know, that's uh nuff said, I think, uh. And 17 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:06.239 then when you start dropping you know, die fing n 18 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:08.560 words and all that into my chat room, I got 19 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:12.400 to delete it. You know what, what can I say? 20 00:01:12.680 --> 00:01:15.280 The guy hates me, he feels disgruntled, and I think 21 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:17.040 you ought to go after the people that you know 22 00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:20.000 hate him, and all the people in Ukraine and the 23 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:21.799 people that are pro Russian and say that all those 24 00:01:21.799 --> 00:01:24.439 people deserve this crap and all that. But you know what, 25 00:01:24.560 --> 00:01:27.040 we're not gonna get bogged down and that tonight we're 26 00:01:27.040 --> 00:01:29.680 gonna talk about whatever it is you want to talk about. 27 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:33.000 Join us three one nine five two seven five zero 28 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:36.000 one six. I'm not even in the mood for politics. 29 00:01:36.079 --> 00:01:38.840 I got a couple of news stories that I already 30 00:01:38.920 --> 00:01:42.359 dropped in the chat room little naked news. Don't spoil 31 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:44.239 it for yourself and read them. But we already put 32 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:46.280 him in the chat so B Pete and I could 33 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:48.959 share them, and uh, do you have that one news 34 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:50.760 story at least in front of you? BP? Can you 35 00:01:50.799 --> 00:01:52.760 read any of that? Or or am I doing all 36 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:53.519 the reading tonight? 37 00:01:56.200 --> 00:01:58.319 Which one? I've got a couple here? 38 00:01:58.480 --> 00:02:00.079 Well any of them? I mean, do you have you 39 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:03.200 have a couple of stories you can read from? Or 40 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:03.840 should I do? 41 00:02:03.879 --> 00:02:04.000 All? 42 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:09.039 Okay, Well that's what we're gonna do and again hopefully 43 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:11.840 with you you the listener joining us three one nine 44 00:02:11.960 --> 00:02:15.199 five two seven five zero one six. That's the number 45 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:18.319 to call three one nine five two seven five zero 46 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:21.000 one six, or you can reach out to me. Charles 47 00:02:21.039 --> 00:02:24.400 dot ocelly on Skype, and I'll be happy to call 48 00:02:24.439 --> 00:02:27.599 you into the show if you ask me to, but 49 00:02:27.639 --> 00:02:29.919 you got to ask me to through a text. Uh, 50 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:32.159 don't call me on Skype because I'll bat your call 51 00:02:32.199 --> 00:02:33.840 away and I can't take it while I'm on air. 52 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:36.479 But I can call you into the show or just 53 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:38.680 use a regular phone. You get on the line, you're 54 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:41.159 on hold, you hear the show. And today a couple 55 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:43.159 of people were on the line listening and might have heard, 56 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:45.680 you know, might have heard me setting up for the show. 57 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:50.159 Three one nine five two seven five zero one six. 58 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:52.639 That's the number to join us. And of course my 59 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:55.000 co host b Pete, So let's check in with you 60 00:02:55.080 --> 00:02:57.080 before we get right to the callers. And then right 61 00:02:57.120 --> 00:02:59.960 after that's some news. B Pete. What's on your mind 62 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:00.919 this week? How you doing? 63 00:03:03.039 --> 00:03:05.719 I'm doing good. It's been a very very busy week. 64 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:09.199 We just had a bunch of thunder forms roll through 65 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:13.039 maybe forty five minutes ago, so luckily that and. 66 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:16.360 Knock anything out. But other than that, we got. 67 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:19.199 Back into summertime nine to nine, one hundred degree weather, 68 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:21.719 so it's supposed to pull off after this front goes through, 69 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:24.080 and I'm looking forward to it. Other than that, just 70 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:28.159 staying busy as hell at work, I mean outrageous and busy. 71 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:30.639 Hot in the Southeast. Oh. By the way, you know 72 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:33.879 somebody did ask me a question about you on Facebook 73 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:37.520 this week, and I'll get to that momentarily, because you 74 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:40.680 were brought up in conversations and some questions are being 75 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:43.800 asked about you a couple of different things, but we'll 76 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:47.039 get into that later. By the way, Also, nobody from 77 00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:50.960 the Jimmy James Fan Club is responding to my messages, 78 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:53.759 so I don't know what the deal is there. I 79 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:55.599 tried to reach out to them, because remember you asked 80 00:03:55.599 --> 00:03:57.439 me a couple of weeks ago if there was any 81 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:00.919 word from them. No word from the jim James Fan Club, 82 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:03.360 although I hear from Jimmy, not just on the calls, 83 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:06.840 but I hear from Jimmy all the time. Matter of fact, 84 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:09.680 this week, I want to say thanks to Jimmy and 85 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:14.280 Creative Accidents both for kicking into the well being of 86 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:18.319 Ocelli dot com here. Appreciate you. Whatever it is you 87 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:21.759 chip in, it's big time important and helpful, and it 88 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:26.319 all is useful because, as I've explained several hundred times, 89 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:30.480 I'm trying to survive this economic crush just like you, 90 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:33.360 and if you can spare it, you want to help out. 91 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:38.720 It is much appreciated and always glad to perform for you. 92 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:41.360 As a matter of fact, when you make a contribution, 93 00:04:41.480 --> 00:04:42.800 you ask me to do something, you know what, I 94 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:45.399 might listen to you a little more. I listen to everybody, 95 00:04:45.399 --> 00:04:47.879 and I try to make everybody happy. Oh and I 96 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:50.279 even have a piece of music from an independent artist 97 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:53.959 that I can play tonight if we have time, and 98 00:04:54.079 --> 00:04:56.839 all that good stuff. So all that having been said, 99 00:04:56.879 --> 00:04:58.800 be pete. Anything we need to get to on this 100 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:08.920 friar Friar's before I turned to the callers. 101 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:08.120 Well, I just threw a link in a room to 102 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:10.360 the lady that was found in her cubicle. 103 00:05:10.399 --> 00:05:12.000 I thought that was also strange. 104 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:16.360 Okay, and we will get to those news stories as 105 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:19.800 we go. Uh let's see, looks like I lost one 106 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:23.639 and gained another, and now I lost two. All right, Well, 107 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:26.319 I've got one caller on the line, so we'll get 108 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:28.720 to them right away. And anybody else that wants to 109 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:32.480 join us again. Three one nine five two seven five 110 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:35.560 zero one six That is the number to call and 111 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:38.879 appreciate you, especially if you caught the graphics earlier. I 112 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:41.959 put it out on Twitter and Facebook, Uh, especially because 113 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:45.079 nobody sees me on any other platform apparently, and on 114 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:46.800 Facebook I'm not seeing all that often. 115 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:47.759 Uh. 116 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:50.360 Some lady actually messaged me today and told me somehow 117 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:52.759 it took her about two years to find me after 118 00:05:52.879 --> 00:05:55.839 she got hacked and lost all of her social media 119 00:05:55.879 --> 00:05:58.360 accounts and all that stuff. She went in search of 120 00:05:58.399 --> 00:06:01.399 me with her brand new social media counts and for 121 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:03.759 some reason she didn't find me for about two years 122 00:06:04.240 --> 00:06:07.720 and thought I was just gone. Don't know why that is. 123 00:06:07.839 --> 00:06:12.079 I guess that's that whole shadow banning issue. Anyways, here 124 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:16.120 we go. Let's see first caller on the line according 125 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:20.600 to time. What area code is that? Ah? Nine six, Okay, 126 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:25.279 nine one six. You're up first and you are alive 127 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:28.040 on the Ocelly effect. What's on your mind? 128 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:38.480 This is Danny. It's Labor Day weekend, and it's a 129 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:43.319 It's an important holiday for me because labor means a 130 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:46.920 lot to me. It's my it's all I've really known 131 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:51.000 and everybody around me having a work ethic, from farmers 132 00:06:51.079 --> 00:06:51.839 to businesses. 133 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:54.120 Oh, it has been in. 134 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:57.600 My own personal journey. I mean I started working when 135 00:06:57.600 --> 00:07:00.839 I was eight years old moll and launch my grandparents 136 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:03.680 and my parents and then my dad had a two 137 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:06.680 tracktor dealerships. So I worked in the shop starting when 138 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:08.879 I was twelve and I haven't stopped working. So that's 139 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:12.839 now fifty years of labor. 140 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:13.439 Wow. 141 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:17.680 So it's important. It's an important holiday for me. So 142 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:22.000 it's also shape me because it's given me a lot 143 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:24.959 of pride, a lot of dignity. So I also share 144 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:29.079 that dignity with all the labor, you know, from the 145 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:34.720 lowest to the highest. And my experiences has been good. 146 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:38.160 I mean I feel a lot of satisfaction. But the 147 00:07:38.360 --> 00:07:40.439 kind of the important to me is I also was 148 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:44.120 thinking a lot about immigration too. And in the area 149 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:46.480 I grew up there like it's been as a farming community, 150 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:51.399 so I mean, we had a predominant high amount of 151 00:07:52.600 --> 00:07:55.399 Mexican laborers. And I remember being in kindergarten there was 152 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:58.480 a tomato field and I could see it was naming 153 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:00.680 men working, but there was a few, and then even 154 00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:03.120 children out they're working in the tomato fields. And I 155 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:09.279 was age five. And then there was the U the 156 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:12.120 levees that built on the Sacramento River that was built 157 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:15.480 by Chinese labor, and the same COOLi labor that built 158 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:20.120 the trans Content helped build the trans Continental Railroad. And 159 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:23.360 then we had family and friends and farmers. They were 160 00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:26.639 Japanese and I didn't realize they were there were citizens 161 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:29.399 and they were interned. A lot of the parents of 162 00:08:29.480 --> 00:08:32.480 the friends I grew up with were interned in camps 163 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:36.240 during World War Two, and the grandparents, and they showed 164 00:08:36.240 --> 00:08:38.440 no bitterness. I didn't know about it. So I heard 165 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:40.320 something on the net as it wasn't even taught about 166 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:40.919 in school. 167 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:45.919 No, they never, you know, well Danny, not in any 168 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:49.360 American school do they teach you about the different waves 169 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:51.759 of immigration really not truthfully. 170 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:52.480 Uh. 171 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:56.600 Either they give you a very distorted view of it. Uh, 172 00:08:56.759 --> 00:09:00.360 you know, where it's overly, you know, strangely sympathy to 173 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:06.120 only particular populations, or they ignore it entirely. They never 174 00:09:06.200 --> 00:09:09.000 give you the realistic thing that that that I talk 175 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:12.120 about on the show sometimes where you have to recognize 176 00:09:12.120 --> 00:09:16.080 that the different waves came in and experience different resistance. 177 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:17.000 Uh. 178 00:09:17.039 --> 00:09:19.000 And obviously you know, I'm not one of these people 179 00:09:19.039 --> 00:09:23.000 that says slavery was you know, a form of immigration Uh, exactly. 180 00:09:23.320 --> 00:09:25.720 That's a whole other issue. But I mean the people 181 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:29.639 that voluntarily came here, uh, you know, that's that's a 182 00:09:29.639 --> 00:09:32.600 whole different world. And as every wave came in, they 183 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:36.519 were exploited for different reasons. And uh, you know, I'm 184 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:41.000 I'm sympathetic to that because I'm only the second generation here. 185 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:44.639 Uh you know, so my grandparents would tell me about 186 00:09:44.879 --> 00:09:49.480 the craziness of coming to America basically, you know, but 187 00:09:49.480 --> 00:09:51.720 but how much they wanted to be here, and how 188 00:09:51.799 --> 00:09:54.399 much they needed to be here, and uh, and and 189 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:55.960 the dream that they believed in. 190 00:09:56.480 --> 00:09:56.639 Uh. 191 00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:59.879 It's a big motivator and a big thing, uh, you know, 192 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:04.360 and so it's extremely important at Labor Day. I've never 193 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:06.559 heard you talk this much all at once, by the way, Danny, 194 00:10:06.559 --> 00:10:08.480 I was kind of amazed you had so much to say. 195 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:13.320 Apparently this is a very deep running thought for you 196 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:16.240 and emotional connection. And we hear from Danny all the time. 197 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:19.000 If you're new to the show, Danny from California calls 198 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:22.440 us almost every week, you know, for the most part lately. 199 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:26.200 And I appreciate you, man, But yeah, I mean, it's 200 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:29.960 a deep thing work ethic, and isn't it strange that 201 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:32.320 we live in a time where people challenge the idea 202 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:36.039 that that even needs to exist because we're about to 203 00:10:36.039 --> 00:10:40.279 get automated out of existence the labor force, you know, etc. 204 00:10:40.720 --> 00:10:44.159 And hey, why bother working because there's other ways to 205 00:10:44.240 --> 00:10:47.960 do it? Or the really strange change of you stay 206 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:51.879 home and work. That was a bizarre thing that happened. 207 00:10:51.919 --> 00:10:53.600 You know, like if I would have told you that 208 00:10:53.639 --> 00:10:56.600 in the nineteen eighties, you would have thought, you know, look, 209 00:10:56.799 --> 00:10:58.799 I got to buy weed from you, man. You're smoking 210 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:02.200 some good stuff because you can't earn a living without 211 00:11:02.279 --> 00:11:05.919 leaving your house, are you crazy? Yeah, So it's a 212 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:09.360 whole different era we live in, and I wonder about 213 00:11:09.399 --> 00:11:12.879 the future of the American work ethic based on that alone. 214 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:15.879 So so, Danny, I'm sorry I did interrupt you, but 215 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:19.200 I wanted to interject about the emotional thing. Yeah, go ahead, 216 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:21.399 please do, please do. 217 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:25.879 Now, what you interjected was wonderful because, yeah, thinking about 218 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:27.559 it a lot, because I remember as a kid there 219 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:31.559 were the easies. You know, I was born in sixty two. Well, 220 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:34.919 during World War Two, because we had so many soldiers, 221 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:38.600 you know, fighting, there was the farms were depleted of labors, 222 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:42.200 so they had the Besero program, which was that they 223 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:46.120 actually brought workers up from Mexico. I mean they bought 224 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:48.679 them up in droves to have them come up here 225 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:51.559 and work in the fields and the fruit, you know, 226 00:11:51.559 --> 00:11:53.879 and the farms and the orchards. And they came up 227 00:11:53.879 --> 00:11:56.200 here and worked, and that started the large wave of 228 00:11:56.919 --> 00:12:02.399 the Mexican migration into California. The ways and most of 229 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:05.720 the workers went that, you know, back to Mexico. They 230 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:07.919 made money and went back to mex skill. But a 231 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:10.600 lot of the friends that grew up their their parents 232 00:12:10.720 --> 00:12:13.799 or grandparents were part of that, the Sero program, right, 233 00:12:14.039 --> 00:12:16.799 and and you know from the fields and of friends 234 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:20.519 that became doctors, attorneys, went to work for the state 235 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:24.360 of California for the franchise tax board. I mean, there's 236 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:27.639 just amazing people that came out out of the out 237 00:12:27.679 --> 00:12:29.200 of this out of this migration. 238 00:12:29.440 --> 00:12:32.320 Well, Danny, look, I want to Danny, I'm sorry, I 239 00:12:32.399 --> 00:12:35.000 want to pause you again, only because I love all 240 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:37.559 the stuff you're talking about here. But we have other callers, 241 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:39.240 and I want to put you on hold for a minute. 242 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:42.080 Maybe maybe they'll have something to add to this, uh 243 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:44.480 as we go forward. But uh, yeah, if I put 244 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:45.960 you on hold. And that's the other thing. If you 245 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:47.919 call in, I put you on hold. I can bring 246 00:12:47.960 --> 00:12:50.399 you back on if we get time. Uh you know, 247 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:53.360 not just you, Danny. I'm telling anybody who's listening and 248 00:12:53.399 --> 00:12:55.320 the callers on the line that you know, I want 249 00:12:55.360 --> 00:12:57.519 to get to you, and uh you know, if I 250 00:12:57.559 --> 00:13:00.159 put you on hold, I'll come back around. So Danny, 251 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:02.600 let me put you on hold briefly. But I love 252 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:06.039 this discussion. This is different, and I'll tell you what 253 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:08.759 I was thinking about on Labor Day and what motivated 254 00:13:08.759 --> 00:13:11.639 me in a minute. But tonight's show is not about me. 255 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:14.559 It's about the callers. So p Pete put a pin 256 00:13:14.600 --> 00:13:16.799 in that. Maybe you want to talk about the you know, 257 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:20.000 the the work ethic and labor and all that, considering 258 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:22.399 it's Labor Day later. But let's get to another caller 259 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:26.279 first off, and I recognize the name from the board, 260 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:30.240 but I think I'm gonna let this caller tell you 261 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:36.600 who they are. And I'm really really pleased and smiling 262 00:13:36.679 --> 00:13:39.399 right now to see who's called in to the show 263 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:42.039 and they might have a question for you. B Pete, 264 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:45.759 just letting you know. Sorry if I'm spoiling anything, but 265 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:51.759 caller from Texas. You wish to identify yourself? 266 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:55.080 Is it me? 267 00:13:55.519 --> 00:13:56.159 It sure is? 268 00:13:57.879 --> 00:14:01.480 Ah? You know how long I haven't done this? And 269 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:08.879 forever be Pete? What happening? Thank Danny? Happy Labor Day? 270 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:12.360 I am happy Labor Day and day old. 271 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:15.559 Yes, and look for people who don't know who this is. 272 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:19.879 B Pete right away to recognize the voice. I recognize 273 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:22.919 the voice and the bounce in it. Uh, the the 274 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:26.960 beaming ball of energy on this planet. That is Gail 275 00:14:27.159 --> 00:14:30.080 Nix Jackson. Uh, you know, grand brother. 276 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:34.120 Of my goodness? Will you be my publicist someday? I mean, 277 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:37.360 will you be my Oh? That makes me sound so 278 00:14:37.480 --> 00:14:39.600 much better than I am. Thank you, Thank you. 279 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:42.840 Listen. Any day I'll do some happy Labor Day. I'll 280 00:14:42.879 --> 00:14:45.600 do some free publicist work for you. But you know, 281 00:14:45.639 --> 00:14:47.639 if you can get me a job, I'll take that too, 282 00:14:47.679 --> 00:14:48.799 because I need more work. 283 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:50.320 Uh. 284 00:14:51.519 --> 00:14:54.279 You stay tight with me. Bp'll tell you stay tight 285 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:58.320 with me. It'll happen, all right. Listen, listen, Gail Nick Jackson. 286 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:01.480 One thing real fan though, Gail Nicks Jackson, I didn't 287 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:05.240 even finish the author of the book about the lost 288 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:09.440 film of the Kennedy Assassination. What lost film is that? Well, 289 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:11.759 we can't find, at least as far as I know, 290 00:15:12.240 --> 00:15:14.679 we can't find. Nobody seems to be able to find, 291 00:15:14.720 --> 00:15:17.799 even when the government has asked. The film taken by 292 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:22.120 Orville Nicks in Dealey Plaza from the opposite side of 293 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:27.279 the street of where the Zepruter film was filmed. And 294 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:30.879 you know, interesting, almost accidental how he ended up with 295 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:34.279 it under his arm, if I remember correctly, kind of 296 00:15:34.600 --> 00:15:37.000 not really even aiming it properly. That's why it's at 297 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:39.639 a weird angle. If you see the original or something 298 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:42.519 close to the original, because we don't know where the 299 00:15:42.559 --> 00:15:46.440 original is, the original film, and Gail has been on 300 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:50.399 a crusade to find it and all of that for 301 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:53.600 a long time. And what is the full title? I 302 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:55.519 know I got two copies of it behind me, but 303 00:15:55.559 --> 00:15:57.840 I can't reach it at the moment. What is the 304 00:15:57.879 --> 00:16:00.159 title of the book that has had a couple of 305 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:03.120 brilliant covers, including one that looks like a pack of 306 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:07.879 lit but also another sleek black night cover. But what 307 00:16:08.039 --> 00:16:09.759 is the title of that book? The full title? 308 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:16.000 Okay, horrible? Next the Missing Assassination film and the and 309 00:16:16.120 --> 00:16:19.159 the first one if you have it it seriously, and 310 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:22.600 I'm not trying to be. I don't know. People always 311 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:25.080 take me the wrong way. If you have one of 312 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:30.279 the first ones that I've published myself with a cover 313 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:33.799 on it myself, that's the one you want to keep, 314 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:35.600 unless you want to go sell it in an auction. 315 00:16:35.799 --> 00:16:40.200 Because I think we're I hope. I'm not gonna yeah, 316 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:42.279 I'm gonna say I think I think we're going to 317 00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:46.840 have an answer to that question within the next I 318 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:51.679 want to say. I want to say weeks, but I'm 319 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:53.919 gonna be nice and say within the next six months. 320 00:16:54.120 --> 00:16:57.799 I have to I'm not Creskin, nor am I no 321 00:16:57.799 --> 00:16:59.919 astro Damas, but I know that I have got to 322 00:17:00.159 --> 00:17:03.919 judge up in the federal court. This is wait a minute, 323 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:07.359 and I am so happy I can't even stand it. 324 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:10.200 And that's about all I can say about all that 325 00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:14.599 at this moment. That doesn't mean humans aren't coming, okay. 326 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:19.880 The first book is Orble, next the Missing Jfcast Fascination film, 327 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:22.359 and then Skyhorse bought it and they put a black 328 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:26.240 cover on it with film or something. I don't know that. 329 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:31.599 It's got three editions, this book, and so the second one, 330 00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:33.440 of course is Pieces of the Puzzle with all of 331 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:37.000 our friends that helped me write one who says passed away. 332 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:41.319 And Yeah, when I was listening to Danny, I was 333 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:45.480 so impressed because there are still Americans the care. There 334 00:17:45.519 --> 00:17:48.279 are still Americans that care about history. And if you 335 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:52.240 knew for how long I've been told no one cares 336 00:17:52.559 --> 00:17:56.039 that jfkassassination went so long ago. Uh, well the government 337 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:59.720 did it. Are we seriously going to normalize this kind 338 00:17:59.720 --> 00:18:00.279 of a behavior? 339 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:01.000 I mean, are we? 340 00:18:01.039 --> 00:18:04.480 Because that's what we're all doing. I'm not. I am not, 341 00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:07.200 and I will sing it until I die that I 342 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:11.759 will not put up with what we know as Americans 343 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:15.359 is right and wrong. We do, and we can take 344 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:19.480 away the partisan crap ola I sound like Archie Bunker. 345 00:18:20.279 --> 00:18:22.319 We can take all that away and just look at 346 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:25.440 people as to who they are and how we were raised, 347 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:28.480 and what we know is the difference between right and wrong. 348 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:31.880 There are problems in this country. Well instead of gribing 349 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:34.039 about them, why do we not try and fix them? 350 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:37.359 That's what I've been doing my whole life, much to 351 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:41.000 the chagrin of my family and who were like, oh 352 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:45.319 my god, more ja Okay, I mean, yes, my grandfather 353 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:48.319 was there for a reason, and I know it. I 354 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:51.519 know it, and just as well as I know my 355 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:53.759 children or my children, just as well as I know 356 00:18:53.880 --> 00:18:57.359 my husband is my soul mate. I just know these things, 357 00:18:57.440 --> 00:19:00.799 and I can't prove it. I judge is going to 358 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:01.759 have to get me through it. 359 00:19:01.799 --> 00:19:01.880 That. 360 00:19:01.960 --> 00:19:05.319 Thank God to these wonderful lawyers I've got. Oh my, 361 00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:09.160 they are really doing their job, y'all. They are doing it, 362 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:12.480 and I am so happy. But wait, I'm gonna go 363 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:14.799 back to Danny. I want to say, Danny, you were 364 00:19:14.839 --> 00:19:19.599 talking about the immigrants coming over in that way. My grandfather, 365 00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:22.559 the one that took this film, had to quit school 366 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:27.279 in fourth grade, fourth freaking grade because there wasn't enough 367 00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:32.400 money during the depression for their family to eat even 368 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:36.640 and his younger brother had epilepty. And if you can 369 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:40.400 imagine during a depression, when there's no insurance, no if 370 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:43.519 you can just imagine, my grandfather went out and was 371 00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:48.200 picking cotton right along with the immigrants. So when I 372 00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:52.000 hear all this crap about how they are whoever says 373 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:54.759 that Trump is, I don't know who says they are 374 00:19:54.799 --> 00:19:59.200 weakening our blood? Really really well, how many people are 375 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:01.440 going to go out there and do that work? I mean, 376 00:20:01.839 --> 00:20:05.559 I hope that there are automatons or robots or whatever 377 00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:07.839 that maybe can do it, so the poor people who 378 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:11.079 just want to work and do a hard day's work 379 00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:14.039 are allowed to do so without feeling like they are 380 00:20:14.119 --> 00:20:16.759 lesser people. And that's just what I want to say. There. 381 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:20.680 You did your grandfather also pick a tobacco too? Was 382 00:20:20.680 --> 00:20:22.839 he also one of the guys picking tobacco? 383 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:24.279 But it was. 384 00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:32.880 All right Texas Lucky Strikes, Yeah no, and he slunked ridiculously. Yeah. Yeah, 385 00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:35.000 And I love and I love that book cover not 386 00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:36.400 in Texas now. 387 00:20:36.359 --> 00:20:39.880 Yeah, the one book cover is a complete homage to 388 00:20:40.039 --> 00:20:42.400 a pack of Lucky Strikes. On this looks like a 389 00:20:42.440 --> 00:20:45.519 pack of Lucky Strikes from a distance, the one book cover. 390 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:49.920 I love it because it's so it's a recognizable, iconic thing. 391 00:20:50.480 --> 00:20:53.720 And clearly, I mean, look, Lucky Strikes still exist, but 392 00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:56.440 I mean as a cigarette brand, that was a huge thing. 393 00:20:56.519 --> 00:20:59.680 Lucky Strikes were like like Marlborough's at a certain point, 394 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:03.400 and it just so happens. I mean, obviously that was 395 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:08.400 one of the things your grandfather smoked. But anyway, you know, 396 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:11.559 interesting guy in and of himself, and he just he 397 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:13.880 loved his film camera I love you telling the stories 398 00:21:13.880 --> 00:21:16.519 about him trying to film airplanes and all kinds of things. 399 00:21:16.920 --> 00:21:21.359 You know, my grandmother would just scream in him. They 400 00:21:21.359 --> 00:21:23.480 were trying to save money. I mean, she worked on 401 00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:27.839 the Wyatts cafeteria line. I mean, she is the lady 402 00:21:27.880 --> 00:21:30.079 that was back there at beans and rice, like at 403 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:33.720 Lchico down here Elbanix used to do, but at Wyatt's, 404 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:36.400 which was a cafeteria like Louvi's. And I don't know 405 00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:41.039 what do y'all have up there? Oh y'all have cafeterias anymore? 406 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:43.839 I don't. I don't. We don't have many. I haven't 407 00:21:43.839 --> 00:21:45.799 seen him in Georgia since I've been here. I mean, 408 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:48.880 there's a waffle house every twenty feet, but there ain't 409 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:52.960 cafeterias around here. H B Pete. Do they have cafeterias 410 00:21:52.960 --> 00:22:01.200 in North Carolina? V pte. You still wasn't. Maybe he's 411 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:04.000 not with it. He might. I don't know. Maybe I 412 00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:06.759 lost him somehow. I'll fix it if I have. Sorry. 413 00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:10.359 I thought he was still there. He should be. Maybe 414 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:14.359 he lost his connection anyway, I'm here, No there he is. 415 00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:17.559 He was talking to his mute button. Okay. And meanwhile, 416 00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:19.200 Gail has a question for you. 417 00:22:19.319 --> 00:22:21.279 I'm asking you to take a picture. 418 00:22:21.720 --> 00:22:24.000 You guys were talking about lucky strikes and I'm sitting 419 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:24.960 here smoking a pack. 420 00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:26.720 I was looking for my cam. 421 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:32.000 Down He's literally trying to trying to take a picture 422 00:22:32.039 --> 00:22:34.720 of the lucky strikes. He's smoking. Anyway, I asked you 423 00:22:34.759 --> 00:22:41.559 the question, do they have do they have cafeterias in 424 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:44.200 North Carolina? Because I don't see him in Georgia. Now 425 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:46.799 I might be missing him, but she was talking about 426 00:22:46.799 --> 00:22:49.480 those kind of cafeterias where people go to eat. Do 427 00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:50.960 they have him there in North Carolina? 428 00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:52.440 Oh? 429 00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:55.039 Yeah, sm D was a big one. 430 00:22:55.400 --> 00:23:00.319 A couple other changes, Yeah, okay, there's been some, a 431 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:03.119 couple of Maya, a couple other companies out. So you 432 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:04.640 had a crap. 433 00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:07.039 What was the bige? 434 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:11.839 There was the first cafeteria fu RRS and in Oakcliff. 435 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:14.680 When we were little, when popa or what would take 436 00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:18.200 us to eat, we would go to the Jefferson Davis cafeteria. 437 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:23.160 Stop it, man, I mean, everybody, I mean you know now. 438 00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:26.119 Jefferson Davis was the name of the height of the 439 00:23:26.359 --> 00:23:28.880 elementary school I went to, and the names have all 440 00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:31.480 been changed. And I get it. I mean, I do 441 00:23:31.519 --> 00:23:32.839 get it well. 442 00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:35.720 Because I was a Yankee, because I was a Yankee 443 00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:37.599 and not a Yankee fan. I was a Mets fan. 444 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:39.839 But uh huh. But because I was a Yankee and 445 00:23:39.839 --> 00:23:42.680 grew up in the Northeast, we didn't have these cafeterias. 446 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:45.960 We had diners in New Jersey and New York, you know, 447 00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:50.319 and is not up north. Nah, we didn't have any 448 00:23:50.319 --> 00:23:53.279 of that. No, no, no, Like I never I saw 449 00:23:53.359 --> 00:23:56.559 these things in like nineteen fifties TV shows where it 450 00:23:56.640 --> 00:23:58.359 was like, oh, they have a place where you go 451 00:23:58.440 --> 00:24:00.960 and there's just kind of different and things they cook 452 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:02.920 each day, and they got bit like I was like, 453 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:05.720 it's a cafeteria. What is this? I thought it was 454 00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:08.000 one of those things that disappeared like in the nineteen 455 00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:09.160 fifties or forties. 456 00:24:09.640 --> 00:24:09.839 Uh. 457 00:24:09.880 --> 00:24:12.039 And I never saw one physically in New Jersey. 458 00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:12.319 No. 459 00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:17.000 No, it's actually one of the cheapest places to eat. 460 00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:22.079 I mean, you know how you get reduced, well reduced 461 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:26.079 menu prices at a school cafeteria or a college cafeteria 462 00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:28.720 usually pay a little bit less, or a hospital cafeteria. 463 00:24:28.799 --> 00:24:31.920 Yeah, sure, K and W because K and W is 464 00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:32.960 just as cheap. 465 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:35.559 Now they've gone up on some things here in the 466 00:24:35.599 --> 00:24:37.359 past year just place. 467 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:39.160 But for the most part, you. 468 00:24:39.039 --> 00:24:42.880 Can go get you know, a meat, three vegs, bread, 469 00:24:43.200 --> 00:24:46.079 and a drink at one time for about six bucks 470 00:24:46.119 --> 00:24:46.839 seven bucks. 471 00:24:46.880 --> 00:24:49.519 Wow, yep, I can't even get a happy man. 472 00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:53.119 Back in the day. Yeah, back in the day, it 473 00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:55.240 was much cheaper. You could get it for like a 474 00:24:55.279 --> 00:24:58.880 dollar and a dollar twenty five. I mean because we 475 00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:02.160 went there every Sunday after Sunday school, I mean after church, 476 00:25:02.759 --> 00:25:06.119 because my grandmother worked there, and you know, it was 477 00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:08.039 a cheap way, and then my mom didn't have to 478 00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:11.720 cook because it was homemade food. I mean, it wasn't 479 00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:15.279 like chemically laden like a drive through you know what 480 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:17.079 I mean, right, It wasn't that way. 481 00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:19.599 Well, see, that's why in Jersey we went to diners. 482 00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:22.640 We went to we had a lot of diners everywhere. 483 00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:24.960 They were just these I don't know how to describe. 484 00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:26.920 I don't know if you guys had the diners down 485 00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:30.039 here like we had, I don't think so. Where it's 486 00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:32.480 just like and and there was always a cheap end 487 00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:34.960 of it. Breakfast was always cheap there. And these places 488 00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:38.359 were open twenty four hours. Yeah, you know in New 489 00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:42.240 Jersey and New York. Well, that's like, but it's really 490 00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:44.720 like a Yeah, but it's not like a waffle house 491 00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:46.799 or an eye hooper, none of that, because it was 492 00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:52.720 real food cooked. It wasn't like greasy spoon. It was like. 493 00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:57.119 It was Are you talking about those those places where 494 00:25:57.160 --> 00:26:00.039 you could open up a like it looked like a 495 00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:04.440 well a little like a like a like a little 496 00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:06.599 and you get food out of it. 497 00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:16.000 No, nor none of the automatism Yeah no. 498 00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:16.559 No, no, I'm not talking about that automatons. And you'd 499 00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:19.640 see those that like company cafeterias. 500 00:26:20.079 --> 00:26:21.880 No, I thought that. 501 00:26:24.200 --> 00:26:27.480 No, diners are just slided in the slots and you're 502 00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:30.200 coming in, putting your money in and taking it out 503 00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:30.680 of the door. 504 00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:33.839 Yeah. No, those those were rare, but they had But no, 505 00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:36.079 the diners I'm talking about. You could go into this 506 00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:37.880 place and it was weird because you could go in 507 00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:40.319 there and eat breakfast for like two or three dollars. 508 00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:41.079 Uh. 509 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:43.440 Even into like around the year two thousand, you could 510 00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:46.640 still get like a three dollars breakfast and it was 511 00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:49.000 a sit down breakfast. You know, eggs cooked any way 512 00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:51.279 you want, and uh and this and this and this 513 00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:55.079 on the side, and coffee was free bottomless cup of coffee. 514 00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:58.880 You could do that or in Texas. And the other 515 00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:01.960 thing is it would range from that to I could 516 00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:05.000 sit down and get three course meal, like a full 517 00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:09.559 on meal with like okay, here's your salad or you know, 518 00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:13.119 or or it's like a salad course and a soup, 519 00:27:13.319 --> 00:27:17.319 either a soup or salad, right, and an appetizer and 520 00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:20.759 an entree and you order that and it's a full 521 00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:24.519 on meal. Plus some of them included desserts too. 522 00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:29.200 Uh, and neild have have shut down though. They'll either 523 00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:31.799 do like breakfast and lunch or lunch and dinner. 524 00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:35.839 Oh yeah, you would, you guys, So you guys have heard. 525 00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:38.799 Yeah, sorry, you guys have. 526 00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:41.440 Heard of Austin's Barbecue. I'm sorry to interrupt. This is 527 00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:44.880 what I always do. I'm so rude. I'm sorry. Barbecue. 528 00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:46.920 Do you remember? Have you read that in many books 529 00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:51.319 about I think Joseph McBride the book he wrote talks 530 00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:54.640 about Austin anyway, But we always went there too, and 531 00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:57.240 that was like a diner like you're talking about, Chuck, 532 00:27:57.319 --> 00:28:01.319 but it was it's barbecue now. JD. Tippett was the 533 00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:07.000 security there. Martie Matthews, the McCann's a lot of the 534 00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:10.400 Dixie Mafia with her. Of course, my grandfather didn't know, 535 00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:12.519 I mean who they were, I mean, the only way. 536 00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:15.599 In fact, I didn't even find any of that out 537 00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:17.880 until much later, so I was doing a lot of research. 538 00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:20.880 I didn't know that was a hangout for, you know, 539 00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:25.599 maybe the people trying to talk because Austin, mister Austin, 540 00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:28.039 he had a place in the very back of his restaurant, 541 00:28:28.599 --> 00:28:30.519 very very bad. Like if you've ever been to Campezes, 542 00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:33.240 if you guys, you could go in the very back 543 00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:36.720 and nobody. It was private, but you didn't have to 544 00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:39.960 rent in ahead of time. And from what I understand, 545 00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:42.279 there was a lot of who knows what going on 546 00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:45.839 back there durnal those days. Because seriously, I don't know 547 00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:52.160 about you guys, but this political atmosphere and the Cape 548 00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:55.839 bol crap, it so reminds me of when I was 549 00:28:55.880 --> 00:29:01.240 a child in Dallas and you had the right against 550 00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:03.039 the left, and they never knew what the left was, 551 00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:04.680 and they never knew what the right was. I said, well, 552 00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:06.680 does the right I used to ask my dad, does 553 00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:08.160 the right thing that they're right? 554 00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:08.519 No? 555 00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:11.359 I said, well, I don't understand why is one called 556 00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:14.920 right ones left? But anyway. General Walker, of course was 557 00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:17.680 the right, and then on the left he had to 558 00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:21.079 add life Stevenson's, the JFK's, the anyone that was on 559 00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:24.160 his side. So it was like a full blown what 560 00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:26.400 we're doing now, It's what it reminds me of because 561 00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:31.160 this JFK didn't detegrate himself. He didn't do it, and 562 00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:34.839 General Walker spent all his time doing it, flying the 563 00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:41.480 flag upside down, going to making sure that Arkansas wasn't segregated. 564 00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:44.720 God help us, I mean you know that I don't 565 00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:47.559 understand it, and I never understood it. And then as 566 00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:49.559 the little girl, and here we are doing it again. 567 00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:53.079 When are we going to learn to learn from history? 568 00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:55.799 When are we going to learn? I don't know if 569 00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:58.599 we learned? Does that make us woke? It is woke? Bad? 570 00:29:59.000 --> 00:29:59.559 Is that bad? 571 00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:00.960 You know? 572 00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:05.200 Look, the new definitions on everything don't make any sense 573 00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:08.200 for those of us who were alive before the century turned, 574 00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:11.079 you know what I mean, It's just it doesn't make 575 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:15.160 any sense anymore. What is a libertarian? What's a liberal? Liberal? 576 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.039 Definitely a dirty word even among liberals at this point. 577 00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:20.599 But you know, liberal at one time was kind of 578 00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:22.839 a nice thing. It meant that you were a free 579 00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:24.960 thinker and you didn't want to bother other people. It 580 00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:30.160 seemed like ry, but that ain't anymore way what happened? 581 00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:33.160 I look, I don't know, but I'll tell you you're right. 582 00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:36.480 We're going in that direction where things are just you know, 583 00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:39.319 full on crazy, no matter where you're at as far 584 00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:40.200 as I'm concerned. 585 00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:44.480 But yeah, God, haven't we seen enough of this? I mean, 586 00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:46.119 why do we want to do it over again? It 587 00:30:46.200 --> 00:30:48.039 was terrible? Why are we going to do it again? 588 00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:48.359 Well? 589 00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:49.359 I don't understand. 590 00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:51.359 I don't either. I don't either. 591 00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:54.519 Why would anyone want to get rich and famous off 592 00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:58.319 this crap? I mean, off the GAFK. I'll be honest. 593 00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:03.200 I mean, why we're here. It's not like any of 594 00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:05.920 us make bookoos of money. We're here to try and 595 00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:09.240 educate and help the people who don't know the things 596 00:31:09.240 --> 00:31:12.920 that we all know. And we don't go around it's 597 00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:17.799 spreading conspiracy bunk. We are in it for the truth, 598 00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:20.640 and the people who aren't, in my opinion, don't even 599 00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:23.680 need to be in this committee, in this community. And 600 00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:26.480 I am terrible about that, but it's true. Everyone deserves 601 00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:29.319 a voice that if you're gonna lie and you're gonna 602 00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:32.480 ruin all the hard work all those people before us 603 00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:35.279 have done, all the witnesses who went through the crap 604 00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:37.920 they went through during those days, and it was horrible. 605 00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:41.799 I don't understand it. I guess you just had to 606 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:45.240 live it. Maybe maybe, or maybe people just don't care anymore. 607 00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.559 I don't know. Well, I've got people in my family 608 00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:50.839 who say no one cares anymore, and I don't agree 609 00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:53.519 with them. I don't because I think people do. 610 00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:56.079 I don't think it's good. 611 00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:58.920 I don't think it's a case of people not caring anymore. 612 00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:04.119 I honestly think it is just a lack of of knowledge. 613 00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:08.759 The and that's what we're nothing, aren't we see. 614 00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:11.599 I would be pete the lack of knowledge thing that 615 00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:17.359 that's a terrible excuse. Look, there there is so much excuse. 616 00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:20.799 It's just with today's you've got to realize the majority 617 00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:23.480 of people today have the attention span of a gnat. 618 00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:24.440 Yeah. 619 00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:27.480 So you're talking about an unsolved murder from a long 620 00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:29.759 time back, and if you put the connotation on it, 621 00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:34.279 then you know it was that to break with responsibility. 622 00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:36.799 After that, things changed. 623 00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:39.319 I think it was. I think it was it was 624 00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:40.279 one of the major. 625 00:32:41.720 --> 00:32:43.559 It was one of the major changes in the past 626 00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:46.920 hundred years. Yeah. Absolutely, it's one of the major ships 627 00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:49.599 that occurred as a result of that happening. 628 00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:54.279 No one, no one took accountability. And I tell you 629 00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:56.960 what if our government, if they were I don't know. 630 00:32:57.240 --> 00:32:59.119 I know what I think, but what I think is 631 00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:01.680 not you know, it's not the truth. I mean, it's 632 00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:05.240 my opinion if they were in it, had any part 633 00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:09.799 or new any of it. It's their obligation as politicians 634 00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:14.279 that we elect to do they not know how to shepherd? 635 00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:17.279 Do they not know how to lead people? I mean, 636 00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:20.799 our government, in my opinion, has turned into more of 637 00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:26.480 an entertainment like football or baseball, rather than really being noble. 638 00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:30.759 And we are losing all nobility in this Nobility is 639 00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:33.799 not a king and a queen. Nobility is what you 640 00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:37.079 do when you sacrifice yourself for someone else. That's what 641 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:40.160 that is. Well, and why have we lost that? To Oh, 642 00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:43.240 I'm on a rant to night, Well, I gotta story, Gale. 643 00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:45.640 Well, here's the thing about that. In my mind, the 644 00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:49.200 reason is this, Why is there no nobility? Why are 645 00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:52.519 these people acting like entertainers, because that's what's being demanded 646 00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:56.279 of them. In my mind, the public has essentially fallen 647 00:33:56.319 --> 00:34:00.200 into a position where, look, you have to compore with 648 00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:06.680 my sentimentality, my sentiment, my idea, my opinion, my feeling 649 00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:10.760 on things. I don't mean, it's like I don't care 650 00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:14.840 what the facts saying. Well, because they don't care about 651 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:17.199 the facts. They don't care about Look, can you prove 652 00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:19.039 anything with evidence? I don't care. This is what I 653 00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:20.880 feel is happening. Well, what if I show you that 654 00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:24.239 that's not what happened? Doesn't matter. I feel it's this way. 655 00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:29.079 So they're demanding of the people that are being selected 656 00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:32.280 for these offices, that are being appointed, their demands on 657 00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:35.119 them to do what to make it line up with 658 00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:38.679 what they feel and what they think either way, any 659 00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:40.920 which way you want to swing. It's not a good 660 00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:45.960 thing when people are about their sentimentality over substance, and 661 00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:49.679 when they do that, they're making demands about since I 662 00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:53.199 feel this way, deal with it that way. It doesn't 663 00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:55.360 mean that it's part of the reality or the job 664 00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:56.480 that needs to get done. 665 00:34:57.159 --> 00:34:57.320 You know. 666 00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:00.320 I mean, look, I sit and I watch, and you know, 667 00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:02.400 some people want to tell me about how great it is. 668 00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:06.159 There's a celebration because everybody feels good on this side 669 00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:09.079 of the equation because you know, they're being told to 670 00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:11.920 feel good. But is that going to help them tomorrow 671 00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:14.159 when they're trying to figure out how to feed their family. 672 00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:16.840 Is that going to help them when they're trying to 673 00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.440 figure out how to plan for the future. Is that 674 00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:22.440 going to help them when they're you know, they're cost 675 00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:25.400 of housing has been jacked up so bad now they've 676 00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:28.280 got to choose to live somewhere else because they're being 677 00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:31.119 priced out. Is that going to help them because there's 678 00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:34.719 no jobs available that allow them to sustain their family. 679 00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:36.880 Is that going to help them because there's not a 680 00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:39.559 safe place for them to live? Is that going to No, 681 00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:42.320 it doesn't count when it comes to the things that 682 00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:45.480 really count. And even if you feel like, well, I 683 00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:48.280 need to deal with you know, this kind of thing 684 00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:51.320 because all my people are on this side, and I've 685 00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:53.280 got to go with the group in this direction or 686 00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:56.960 that direction. And notice I'm very carefully avoiding specifics here. 687 00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:01.119 The thing is they're not dealing with the brass tax 688 00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:03.400 of it. And so when you talk about something like 689 00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:07.159 the murder of JFK, why does it matter? And you know, 690 00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:09.280 trying to educate people and trying to get at them 691 00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:11.800 and give them real information. A lot of them don't 692 00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:14.760 care about that because well, I feel as though, and 693 00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:17.519 there's the end of the argument, whatever it is, they 694 00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:21.519 feel as though, I think the government's responsible. So that's it. Look, 695 00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:22.000 if you. 696 00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:24.639 Don't have an open mind, I mean, somebody going to 697 00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:25.039 prove it. 698 00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:30.400 Yeah, but it's either that marsh and Oswald thing. It's fine, 699 00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:31.960 but go ahead, goo ahead. 700 00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:34.039 Let me let me ask both of you all this. 701 00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:38.320 Sure supposedly they were going to release files and then 702 00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:42.679 Trump during his term, hold the agencies go back through it, 703 00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:44.960 you know, find out the stuff. It's got to still 704 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:48.800 be redacted. Blah blah blah. We end up getting short changed. Now, 705 00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:51.440 my question is this, and it's like a two prong question. 706 00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:57.679 One can you think of the of the reason? And 707 00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:01.440 I don't think there's there's one reason. There's one main 708 00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:04.000 reason that they're not releasing this stuff. 709 00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:07.440 With that is it because it. 710 00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:15.960 Implicates certain individuals connected to the government. I can't think 711 00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:18.960 of any other reason that these files would not be 712 00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:20.119 completely released. 713 00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:21.800 What's left up? We know the. 714 00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:26.400 It a long time ago. I got a couple of 715 00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:30.360 reasons that go out at alphabet. We don't know. 716 00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:33.360 Go ahead, Gail to speak your piece, because I got 717 00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:35.519 a couple of different reasons I can add go ahead. 718 00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:37.840 I do too that I don't want to say them 719 00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:41.320 because well Jesus, I'll get in trouble. Every lawyer will 720 00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:41.719 be calling me. 721 00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:43.480 I know, I I. 722 00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:49.760 Seriously believe that Trump was a little bit scared. Look 723 00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:54.760 at Biden. What did Biden do? I'm not being bipartisan. 724 00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:56.960 I am trying to be I mean partisan, I am 725 00:37:57.079 --> 00:37:59.920 trying to be Biden did the same thing here. See, 726 00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:01.800 you take it over and you tell us what we 727 00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:03.800 can and can't have. Now, why would you have done that? 728 00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:07.360 Yes, I mean I I don't know. 729 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:13.159 You know Trump, Trump, I know that overhaul of everything. 730 00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:17.519 In my opinion, after you, if you take account ability, 731 00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:22.360 what's the latest results on a poll when people ask 732 00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:24.000 me to think the government was involved? 733 00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:26.039 I mean, do you think that there's a lot of 734 00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:28.519 people in the community to think the government was involved 735 00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:30.000 in some form or fashion. 736 00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.480 Either, And I think they've normally actually. 737 00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:34.320 Carrying out of it or the cover I know they're 738 00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:36.599 involved in the cover up afterwards, but I mean the 739 00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:37.760 actual assassination. 740 00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:39.559 Do you think there are parts of the government that 741 00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:40.639 are involved, well. 742 00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:42.480 The cover up. You know, you have to be insane 743 00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:44.440 to say the government is not involved in a cover 744 00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:48.159 up here because you know, Exhibit A through Z you got. 745 00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:52.760 But yeah, they can live my life and see what 746 00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:54.960 I've been told and what I've been through and they know. 747 00:38:56.280 --> 00:38:58.519 I mean, that's all I can say that. But he's 748 00:38:58.559 --> 00:38:59.360 about everybody. 749 00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:02.639 But here's the thing. It might not be to my bis. Yeah, good, 750 00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:04.760 I'm trying. I'll get there. 751 00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:06.840 I can't think of any other reason that the stuff 752 00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:09.440 would not be released because it's going to implicate somebody 753 00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:11.039 connected with the government, okay. 754 00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:12.840 Or whatever. 755 00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:14.960 Yeah, And I'm trying to answer that. Okay, So let 756 00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:17.119 me get to it real quick. There's a couple of 757 00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:21.880 possibilities here and the one terrible possibility. No, everybody scoffs 758 00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:24.320 at me when I say this, So get ready, everybody listening. 759 00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:26.840 I'm gonna get scoffed that watch. But here's the thing. 760 00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:29.960 How about if they have no idea what actually happened. 761 00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:32.400 If we really look at this stuff, and with all 762 00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:35.960 these agencies, all these people investigating the government giving us 763 00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:38.719 answers and every other nonsensical thing, where they were pushing 764 00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:41.920 out narratives to the media and all that crap. What 765 00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:45.239 if we discovered that, quite honestly, even all the way 766 00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:47.840 up to the up Rechelan, they're throwing up their hands going, 767 00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:50.199 you know, in truth, we can't make a case here 768 00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:54.199 in any direction. We don't know. It's actually still a 769 00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:58.159 mystery to us. Now there's a possibility that they don't 770 00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:01.599 want out there, because that that would mean that guess what, 771 00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:05.519 the all knowing government is not in control, wasn't guilty, 772 00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:09.760 wasn't inept, They just didn't know. They can't even do 773 00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:13.039 the job to begin with. So you know, how about 774 00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:17.000 that as a possibility. That's one Two is that they're 775 00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:19.880 so entangled that something went on here with somebody that 776 00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:25.280 wasn't necessarily their people or government people involved, but they 777 00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:29.800 were connected to government people. The government people absolutely should 778 00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:31.880 have caught this without a question. 779 00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:32.280 Right. 780 00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:34.679 What if we find out that there is no way 781 00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:37.800 in hell and we find out exactly who the shooters were, 782 00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:40.840 and we find out that these guys were checking in 783 00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:46.320 every single day with CIA handlers, NSA people, military intelligence, 784 00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:48.519 and they were checking in with them every single day, 785 00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:51.320 and still they slipped us right on by him and 786 00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:55.280 got away with it can the government be seen as 787 00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:59.280 the keystone cops here with people that they should have 788 00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:03.000 had control over. So it's not necessarily that it would 789 00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:06.559 implicate somebody within the government, but there's the possibility of 790 00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:09.559 connection and also the possibility of guess what, folks, we 791 00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:13.239 don't know the answer either, And I think neither one 792 00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:15.599 of those things would be good to come out, and 793 00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:17.360 I think that would be a good purpose for a 794 00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:19.280 cover up. But the whole thing with this, you know, 795 00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:22.679 Trump versus Biden, they did the same thing basically, except 796 00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:25.760 Trump to a lesser degree. Trump kicked the down you know, 797 00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:27.960 kick the can down the road and basically handed it 798 00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:31.000 over to the next administration, whoever that might be. But 799 00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:33.880 you know, all those things and those discussions about whether 800 00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:37.760 he's scared or anything else nonsensical because there was twenty 801 00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:42.880 five years I agree, in between where the ARRB went 802 00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:45.800 through and didn't get everything they wanted. They had to 803 00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:48.440 fight with the CIA and go through this whole thing, 804 00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:52.199 and there's a twenty five year delay, So twenty five 805 00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:55.320 years after they dealt with it, which was already more 806 00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:59.760 than twenty five years after the incident. Okay, so half 807 00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:03.800 a century later. Tell me what methods and sources would 808 00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:08.239 still be valid or even remotely anything other than antique 809 00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:13.320 and not useful any longer. You know, no operational value whatsoever. 810 00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:17.440 Who's alive from nineteen sixty three that would have been 811 00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:20.039 an active person that could have pulled this off or 812 00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:24.599 been involved, Probably nobody. What methodology would they have been 813 00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:28.679 using back then that's still even remotely valid. So sources 814 00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:31.079 and methods, I don't want to hear it anymore. The 815 00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:34.360 thing is, you know, and I pointed this out, is 816 00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:39.559 that there is literally withheld documentation regarding an actual conspiracy 817 00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:43.199 that we know about that tried to completely decapitate the government, 818 00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:46.880 and that's the Lincoln assassination. There is withheld documentation the 819 00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:50.239 National Archives that you're not allowed to have about an 820 00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:56.599 assassination that happened one hundred years before JFK's assassination. Sources 821 00:42:56.679 --> 00:42:58.840 and methods don't think So there's. 822 00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:04.599 This scary part to me. It is, yeah, is this 823 00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:07.679 really the government we grew up learning in history books 824 00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:10.920 and pledging to allegiance to our flag. I mean, I 825 00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:13.079 meant every word I ever said when I do it 826 00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:16.039 at a baseball game, I mean, but does anyone does 827 00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:18.559 anyone think that anymore seeing they do. 828 00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:21.000 And I mean right, And I'll give you one other, 829 00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:23.920 just last thing on this, because bp'd asked that question 830 00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:27.599 three times. What else could it be besides government being implicated? 831 00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:30.239 Here's the problem. Let's just say the government can't be 832 00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:33.800 implicated in any way, shape or form in the assassination. 833 00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:36.679 We get every piece of information they have, and none 834 00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:38.760 of them are the guilty party in any way, shape 835 00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:40.760 or form. It's not people connected to them that are 836 00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:43.360 the guilty party in any way, shape or form. Their 837 00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:45.800 hands are clean on JFK. Let's just assume that for 838 00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:49.239 a moment. How about in the course of digging that up, 839 00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:55.400 there are other things that are darker, uglier secrets that 840 00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:57.920 you might have to get to if some of the 841 00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:01.960 key pieces of information about JF came out where the 842 00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:05.519 government could be implicated in some other way, worse things 843 00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:11.519 than even the Kennedy assassination by a long shot. Imagine that, 844 00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:13.920 you know, because we find out about somebody who was 845 00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:18.840 working on some deep, dark projects, maybe they loosed some 846 00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:22.360 poison on a segment of the population that they have 847 00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:25.679 buried and covered up. Now and literally the American government 848 00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:28.960 is responsible for murdering one hundred thousand of their own citizens. 849 00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:31.360 We don't know about it because it's been covered up, 850 00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:34.239 But maybe somehow that would come out if we had 851 00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:37.639 all the facts on JFK, simply because some of those 852 00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:42.599 operatives now being revealed, or some of those situations being revealed, 853 00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:46.360 could lead to a massive something else that needs to 854 00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.360 be covered up. That's way. 855 00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:53.559 Are you suggesting that maybe they're hiding all this because 856 00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:56.400 they don't want us to really know what the I mean, 857 00:44:56.480 --> 00:45:00.320 I don't understand. Are you saying that I don't know? 858 00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:04.320 Are you saying that maybe it's going on because this 859 00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:05.960 is just the way of our life and they don't 860 00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:07.880 want us to know that. I was reading, Okay, let 861 00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:09.960 me throw this in there, and this is my It's 862 00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:12.079 scary when I get into my brain by myself. 863 00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:12.400 It is. 864 00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:16.760 I was reading the other day that the newest philosophers 865 00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:21.880 in modern philosophers are suggesting that we live in a simulation. 866 00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:22.880 Have you guys read that? 867 00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:26.440 Yeah? Sure, But I've been reading about that since Philip K. Dick. 868 00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:28.679 I mean that's from the nineteen seventies. Even that people 869 00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:29.840 have been discussing that's all. 870 00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:34.599 Yeah, like in college classes now, I currently I never 871 00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:36.840 had any of that. When I was teaching college, I didn't. 872 00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:39.880 And that's why I'm asking you guys, I mean, where's 873 00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:43.960 the guard rails around that? I hypotheses, There are hypotheses 874 00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:48.559 and ideas about philosophy. Those it's just what they are, 875 00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:52.360 are ideas. But normally there's been a lot of research 876 00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:55.880 into it to see why they come up to the 877 00:45:57.280 --> 00:45:58.760 Oh my god, I came and talk. Why did I 878 00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:00.400 come up with the conclusion they have? 879 00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:01.039 You know? 880 00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:04.360 And so I add all this and what we're talking 881 00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:08.840 about right now and what we're because, honestly, Chuck and Bpe, honestly, 882 00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:12.400 for years, I didn't want to think that the government 883 00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:14.960 had done this to my grandfather's film. I didn't. I'll 884 00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:18.320 be honest. I did not. I would tell I tell Haraldo, 885 00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:22.559 I don't know who's up there shooting. I don't even 886 00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:24.599 know if it was our government. It could have been. 887 00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:28.119 I said it. I'm an idiot, some guy throwing hot dogs. 888 00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:30.679 That's what I said on Haraldo. I think in ninety one. 889 00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:32.519 I mean, because I. 890 00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:36.840 Don't know fit now after all these years, since even 891 00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:41.119 ninety one, I know what I know, and I've got 892 00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:45.679 proof of it, and I just don't see how this 893 00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:48.920 keeps caring on it more. I mean Bill Simpitch and 894 00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:51.519 Jeff Morley and those guys Larry Snapp am I saying 895 00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:53.559 his name right, They all tried to do it and 896 00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:56.960 they got dismissed and they got yeah, you know, but 897 00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:00.320 so far we haven't gotten dismissed. And I truly think 898 00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:02.719 that we're going to have an answer sometime soon. And 899 00:47:03.320 --> 00:47:07.159 in my opinion, if I were the president or a politician, 900 00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:09.440 which I would never be because I just I would 901 00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:12.239 never be able to sleep at night, But if I were, 902 00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:17.320 I would explain to my constituents. Look, it's just like 903 00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:20.599 when you're you've got a thorn in your in your finger. 904 00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:23.559 If you don't get it out, it's gonna fester. If 905 00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:28.159 you don't take accountability and tell the truth. This is 906 00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:31.480 what happens. I mean, it's what happens when you lie 907 00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:35.000 and lie and lie. You lose the respect of people 908 00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:37.480 that you you know you want to have if you 909 00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:41.960 lose your credibility. And and that's why I like on 910 00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.360 the times before I had kids, or I could travel 911 00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:48.679 to Europe and see how people thought, and not that 912 00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:53.519 it matters, but seeing another viewpoint of what we do 913 00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:57.159 over here from another country is very very important, y'all. 914 00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:00.280 It's more important than we know, you know, so. 915 00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:05.920 So Gail, Gail, Yeah, I know you're not taking up 916 00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:08.360 all my time. I love you. I love hearing from you. 917 00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:10.480 You had a question for V Pete. I want to 918 00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:11.920 let you get to that, and I want to get 919 00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:13.599 to some other callers, so I could put you on 920 00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:15.719 hold and you could breathe and listen to everybody for 921 00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:18.599 a minute, and uh, you know, maybe we'll get back 922 00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:21.320 around to this discussion. I love this discussion. 923 00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:28.880 And I love you both do well. 924 00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:33.519 We Yeah, buddy, listen, I'm gonna do that. But just 925 00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:34.840 to let you know, I don't want to speak for 926 00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:37.119 B Pete, but I know B Pete appreciate you, that's 927 00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:37.559 for sure. 928 00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:38.280 Uh. 929 00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:40.800 And I love you. I know people that listen to 930 00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:42.360 the show love you. They love to hear you on 931 00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:45.960 I've had you requested several times over the past uh uh, 932 00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:50.719 well over the past year. Yeah, you've been requesting. No, 933 00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:53.800 you don't know anybody money. But you know I took 934 00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:56.079 your directive, you know, which was Look, I can't say 935 00:48:56.079 --> 00:48:58.840 anything publicly right now, but we are going to see 936 00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:02.880 each other at Lancer and coming up November twenty, and 937 00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:03.639 I'm hoping. I. 938 00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:06.400 Oh please, I hope I can tell everything. 939 00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:08.199 Oh please, please let it happen. 940 00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:13.840 If the Chuck Show believe in prayer, I solely, I 941 00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:17.800 really do. I know that the more prayers that God 942 00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:21.840 hears there there's people wanting. I know. But even if 943 00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:25.280 you don't, I mean, if you believe in positivity and 944 00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:27.880 sending out positive vibes, because I truly believe we're all 945 00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:30.440 made of energy, and I try to put out as 946 00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:32.639 much positive as I can. But every now and then 947 00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:36.119 you gotta let the nuggative out too, because it poisons 948 00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:39.519 the good I just does. So yeah, put me on 949 00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:42.320 the whole. I love your guts. VP. Call me sometime 950 00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:44.320 when you're bored, which you never argue. You work so 951 00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:47.519 hard and you help Chuck. But Chuck, I can't wait 952 00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:49.679 to see you, and I'll talk to you again. Maybe 953 00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:52.599 maybe I'll get to before November, maybe I hope. 954 00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:54.840 So Okay, Gail, I'm gonna put you on hold. But 955 00:49:54.920 --> 00:49:57.159 before I do that, just real fast, I'm gonna I'm 956 00:49:57.159 --> 00:50:00.239 gonna ask the question that you asked on Facebook. So 957 00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:02.159 b Pete. Gail is one of the people who asked 958 00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:04.360 me a question about you on Facebook. She wanted to 959 00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:07.159 know if you were going to the conference. I almost 960 00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:10.480 felt bad, like, wait a minute, you're you're more excited 961 00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:13.039 to see b Pete than me. Doesn't matter, I'm going, 962 00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:15.400 but she wants to know if you're going to be there. 963 00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:20.840 I'm I'm sorry, I'm breaking Bail talked to B Pete 964 00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:22.639 all those years and didn't know who he was, and 965 00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:25.599 I was so excited to finally seem I can't tell you, I. 966 00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:31.079 Really it's Gail. I'm just making I'm just making jokes. Gail, Relax. 967 00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:34.800 I do that on Fridays. We're being We're having fun 968 00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:37.360 on Friday. Okay, So I'm making a joke here that 969 00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:39.360 I felt. I did feel a little bad for a 970 00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:42.039 second though, like wait a minute, you just okay, you 971 00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:45.719 want to see b Pete real bad? But uh, b Pte? Allright? 972 00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:48.239 Have you figured out if you can get the dose off? 973 00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:49.239 Are you going? Or what. 974 00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:53.800 It looks right now? It looks like no, But I 975 00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:55.199 don't know what's going to change. 976 00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:55.880 We're starting. 977 00:50:56.079 --> 00:50:58.760 We've just signed all of the agreements on a new 978 00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:02.480 phase all this job that's going to extend it to 979 00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:05.599 like December of next year, se Lo love me or. 980 00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:07.719 Hate me, Gail, I always tell you the truth, didn't 981 00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:09.320 I tell you. He's waiting to hear about it if 982 00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:11.239 he can get days off or whatever. And I ask 983 00:51:11.320 --> 00:51:14.079 him all the time, that's what it is. 984 00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:17.159 Let me throw this in. Let me throw this in 985 00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:19.880 before I go on. Hold stebro wants you to be 986 00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:22.800 there too, okay. And Steve Row, by the way, is 987 00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:24.719 one of the guys who wrote a chapter in my book. 988 00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:28.159 See I mean, I know how he thinks about things, 989 00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:31.639 and I know how Doug And it's not a I 990 00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:34.840 like everybody's opinion when they're kind, you know what I mean, 991 00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:38.360 and they're smart and they think before they tuk, which 992 00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:40.920 I don't always do. So in Steve, I like people 993 00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:42.000 who do what I can't. 994 00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:45.239 Right And and Steve Row is one of the lone 995 00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:49.079 nut theorists that and I mean that he believes that 996 00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:52.440 Oswald is guilty, you know, when it comes to Kennedy. 997 00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:55.079 And he's a researcher on that side of the fence. 998 00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:58.440 He's been part of this show several episodes over the years, 999 00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:01.079 not lately because we haven't done a show where Steve 1000 00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:04.719 would be appropriate lately, but The thing is he's been 1001 00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:06.920 on the show several times, and look, we can have 1002 00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:11.280 a respectful, reasonable agreement on things like facts and evidence, right, 1003 00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:14.480 and no problem there. In fact, he's the guy who 1004 00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:17.119 helped me, who helped me find the image. I think 1005 00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:23.320 of George H. W. Bush on November twenty second, where 1006 00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:28.159 he was at the Corners Club. Yeah right, that's right. 1007 00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:31.039 So just saying people that know the fact, I mean, 1008 00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:33.480 you know what we need to do. Guys, you know 1009 00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:35.320 what we need to do. And I'm going to suggest 1010 00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:38.760 it if whatever I say as a stupid at the conference, 1011 00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:44.119 I'm going to suggest that we all put together. I 1012 00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:46.159 know somebody has done it, but I think we all 1013 00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:51.079 need to do it in unison known facts, ruth about 1014 00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:55.239 the assassination and then the area where it's gray and 1015 00:52:55.320 --> 00:52:58.199 the area where it's just bs. I mean, I think 1016 00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:00.639 that's what we should do. I'm not kidding. I know 1017 00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:02.920 it's been done, but I think we should all do 1018 00:53:03.039 --> 00:53:05.920 it because those of us who can listen to both 1019 00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:08.880 sides of an argument without losing our minds, I mean, 1020 00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:11.639 they're the sane ones that need to put it all down. 1021 00:53:11.719 --> 00:53:12.360 What do y'all think? 1022 00:53:12.719 --> 00:53:15.440 I think you read one of my book proposals. That's 1023 00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:17.880 what I think, because I proposed this as a book. 1024 00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:22.079 I swear I proposed this as a book literally already. 1025 00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:26.039 That there should be a small council because there's one 1026 00:53:26.119 --> 00:53:29.679 particular publisher that has published a variety of authors, and 1027 00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:32.960 they already have worked with them, and we could all 1028 00:53:33.159 --> 00:53:37.280 assemble almost exactly what you just said into a singular book. 1029 00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:41.960 Okay, I think so too. It's so easy, it's there, 1030 00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:43.840 and that would be enough. You could even make it 1031 00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:46.679 into a small little chat book that they used to 1032 00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:49.440 make during the Victorian days, where it's just a little 1033 00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:53.079 book that you go to, like like a little posaurus, 1034 00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:55.519 a little mictionary, a little you get the right index 1035 00:53:55.559 --> 00:53:57.079 and put it in there and it'd be it would 1036 00:53:57.119 --> 00:54:00.519 be great. I mean I am not organized enough to 1037 00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:03.119 bet a mouthy enough to take well what about this? 1038 00:54:03.360 --> 00:54:03.679 About that? 1039 00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:08.519 I mean you know that I'm not organized, Chris, Chris Gally, 1040 00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:11.760 I mean the best with all. 1041 00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:15.880 The contact that you two have, could you I mean, 1042 00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:18.880 how how how would you limit the group that would 1043 00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:21.119 decide what would go in and what category? 1044 00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:25.079 Because there's so many people. I mean, you guys have 1045 00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:26.360 talked to so many people. 1046 00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:30.639 I mean I'm limited into my discussions and interactions with 1047 00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:32.840 people over the years, but you too have talked to so. 1048 00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:35.280 Many and have been evolved in it long enough. 1049 00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:38.679 How would you set a limit of like maybe ten 1050 00:54:38.760 --> 00:54:40.440 people or five people. 1051 00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:42.320 Or I would yeah, something like that. 1052 00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:46.239 And you could even divide it into each section, you 1053 00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:49.360 know what I mean, you could the truth the life. 1054 00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:54.119 You look at Walt Brown and you look at all 1055 00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:57.239 these guys that have just all this knowledge in their 1056 00:54:57.400 --> 00:55:01.039 head and categorize something very quickly. 1057 00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:05.719 Yeah. See, because Gaale and I are both kind of Yeah, 1058 00:55:05.760 --> 00:55:08.000 because Gayale and I are both kind of divisive a 1059 00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:11.519 little bit among certain segments of the community. Let's just 1060 00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:14.960 say to be nice, Yeah, we would need a very 1061 00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:18.000 neutral guy along with us, like a third if we 1062 00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:21.039 were to work this out, like somebody like Larry Hancock 1063 00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:25.079 who nobody has a grudge against, Like somebody like that. 1064 00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:28.320 We would need to bring him in and then yeah, absolutely, 1065 00:55:29.079 --> 00:55:31.559 and we would have to invite people in that are divisive, 1066 00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:34.480 people that aren't, people that are you know, under the radar. 1067 00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:36.639 Some of these young kids are coming up with stuff. 1068 00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:39.480 I mean, we had a fourteen year old at the 1069 00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:43.920 conference last year, and he's coming back by the way, 1070 00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:46.400 and we also got a guy in his twenties that's 1071 00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:48.480 going to be there. I mean, there are some younger 1072 00:55:48.599 --> 00:55:52.400 people that are doing new work. There's a lot of 1073 00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:55.039 the classic stuff which still stands up. I mean, there 1074 00:55:55.159 --> 00:55:57.679 is a whole array of things that we should be 1075 00:55:57.719 --> 00:56:00.239 able to accomplish in this way, and we could eight 1076 00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:03.320 like the this is not the idiot's guide, but it 1077 00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:07.199 is a guide book to the JFK assassination. Here's the 1078 00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:10.480 provable ends of it, here's the questionable parts of it, 1079 00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:13.400 and here is the this is nonsense and you need 1080 00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:15.920 to know what's nonsense. And unfortunately that might be the 1081 00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:16.960 biggest part of the book. 1082 00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:19.920 But yeah, that'll be the hardest one. I don't want 1083 00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:21.800 to be a part of that because well, yes I do, 1084 00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:25.320 because I am divisive. When I see a liar, I 1085 00:56:25.480 --> 00:56:26.239 say you're a liar. 1086 00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:27.400 That's what I do. 1087 00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:31.679 And and yes it's offsetting, and yes I can normally 1088 00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:33.960 normally if I have it on the top of my 1089 00:56:34.079 --> 00:56:37.960 body a bit. But I'll give you an example. There 1090 00:56:38.039 --> 00:56:40.519 is a person who is big in the JFK community. 1091 00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:42.360 I'm not going to give you her name, but she's 1092 00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:46.920 really well known, does a lot of and is around 1093 00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:49.199 it all the now. You know who I'm talking about. 1094 00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:55.039 But this person played my grandfather's film on the city 1095 00:56:55.079 --> 00:56:58.760 of Allen. They have JFK people there. I've never been there, 1096 00:56:58.800 --> 00:57:01.679 but JFK people very pretty often yearly. 1097 00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:02.519 I guess, yeah. 1098 00:57:03.320 --> 00:57:07.480 And she said, here's my film, and I'm watching it. 1099 00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:09.559 I mean, because I've read her book. I mean, it 1100 00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:13.119 took a while and I'm like, oh my god, that's 1101 00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:16.400 my grandmother's film. That is not your film. And so 1102 00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:18.440 I said to her, I said, do you realize if 1103 00:57:18.840 --> 00:57:22.079 that had been your film, honey, you would have been 1104 00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:25.280 so close, you would have been h d I mean 1105 00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:29.599 in pictures. And you said that it wasn't good camera. 1106 00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:32.000 I mean, but then you said it was. I don't 1107 00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:36.280 it's not your film. Feats and desist. Stop now, and 1108 00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:39.039 nieless is say. She has never spoken with me again. 1109 00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:42.719 And part of my wonderful reputation in the community is 1110 00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:45.920 that I picked on her. No, I called out what 1111 00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:49.000 was true and what was fault. That's it. I didn't. 1112 00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:51.840 I didn't call her names. I didn't get ugly. I 1113 00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:55.199 just said cease and desist. I could have been I 1114 00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:57.199 could have been really ugly, and I didn't. 1115 00:57:57.519 --> 00:58:02.199 So, and you were not wrong. You were no problem. 1116 00:58:02.360 --> 00:58:05.920 You were not wrong in the least about that. And 1117 00:58:06.199 --> 00:58:08.119 as I put you on hold, I'm just gonna make 1118 00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:11.360 one comment and see what everybody thinks. And again I'm 1119 00:58:11.400 --> 00:58:13.280 not gonna name the person, but I know exactly who 1120 00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:15.559 you're talking about. I know the incident you're talking about. 1121 00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:17.599 And she's not the only one who's done this either, 1122 00:58:18.000 --> 00:58:19.960 who has tried to say that, oh, you know what, 1123 00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:24.840 that is my film? That is Oh wait, I'm gonna 1124 00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:28.039 on her behalf say that's her film, and I know 1125 00:58:28.159 --> 00:58:30.599 it's orrible next film, And sometimes it's mixed in with 1126 00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:33.800 the much more film, you know, and they splice those 1127 00:58:33.840 --> 00:58:38.360 two together because they're similar in a way, but completely 1128 00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:40.400 dissimilar if you know the quality of the damn thing, 1129 00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:43.639 even when you're looking at the fifth generation copy, which 1130 00:58:43.719 --> 00:58:47.159 you know is all we have. But okay, I know 1131 00:58:47.239 --> 00:58:50.519 exactly what you're talking about, and Gail, I love this. Again, 1132 00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:52.119 I'm gonna put you on hold. We we're gonna go 1133 00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:53.880 to a break at some point too. I think I'll 1134 00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:56.000 go to one more caller and then we'll go to 1135 00:58:56.079 --> 00:58:59.280 a break. Let everybody catch their breath and bring all 1136 00:58:59.360 --> 00:59:01.760 the callers back back in unless new people join us. 1137 00:59:02.199 --> 00:59:06.199 At three one nine five two seven five zero one six. 1138 00:59:06.280 --> 00:59:09.599 That's three one nine five two seven five zero one six, 1139 00:59:10.039 --> 00:59:12.119 and we'll go for at least an hour more tonight. 1140 00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:15.400 There is no age of transitions after my show, so 1141 00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:17.880 I can go over on the live stream a bit 1142 00:59:18.239 --> 00:59:20.719 and if callers keep calling, that's what we're gonna do. 1143 00:59:21.239 --> 00:59:23.920 But my closing comment for this hour Gale just real 1144 00:59:24.039 --> 00:59:26.519 fast is crazy. 1145 00:59:27.880 --> 00:59:28.960 For a feeling. 1146 00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:34.000 South sat and me crazy. 1147 00:59:35.440 --> 00:59:37.599 I love you guys, and I love you guy. 1148 00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:40.920 I hope you do. And now now there's a bunch 1149 00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:43.400 of people who know exactly who we were just talking about. 1150 00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:46.559 But anyway, it happens, and it is a spectacle, and 1151 00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:51.239 uh yeah, there are plenty of characters in the Naked 1152 00:59:51.320 --> 00:59:52.400 City of JFKL. 1153 00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:55.159 My husband just walked in and said, quit telling other 1154 00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:59.719 men you love them. He just walked in and tell them, 1155 01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:02.199 do not say you love other men. That's what he's 1156 01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:05.360 just been. Whatever. It's like a sister. 1157 01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:09.360 It's like a sister. It's like a sister. You've already 1158 01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:12.320 got her, that's that. It's like she's my sister, okay, 1159 01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:17.559 and she is my spiritual sister in the war against 1160 01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:22.480 the lies, nonsense, and obfuscation that her grandfather's film pill 1161 01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:24.920 victim to and along with a whole lot of other things, 1162 01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:28.960 including the truth overall. So Gail on hold, and I 1163 01:00:29.039 --> 01:00:30.880 will come back around to you if you stick around, 1164 01:00:31.239 --> 01:00:33.559 And you guys who are listening, I hope you stick around, 1165 01:00:34.039 --> 01:00:36.960 because we got at least about an hour more with 1166 01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:39.840 my co host p Pete whoever calls in, and who knows, 1167 01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:42.960 maybe I'll get to some news, some sound clips, other stuff. 1168 01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:45.920 Danny is probably sitting there on hold waiting to come 1169 01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:49.440 back around as well. And uh yeah, Oh, I got 1170 01:00:49.519 --> 01:00:51.559 Jimmy James that I got to bring in, So I'm 1171 01:00:51.559 --> 01:00:54.000 gonna bring him in at the top of the hour 1172 01:00:54.440 --> 01:00:57.280 or at the top of the next segment here on 1173 01:00:57.400 --> 01:01:00.639 the Ocelli Effect, Open my Friday Night, join us three 1174 01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:04.400 one nine five two seven five zero one six three 1175 01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:07.840 one nine five two seven five zero one six Call 1176 01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:11.360 that number or send me a text Charles dot Ocelly 1177 01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:14.000 on Skype and I can call you into the show 1178 01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:17.840 on Skype, but otherwise three one nine five two seven 1179 01:01:18.119 --> 01:01:22.199 five zero one six. 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Revelation through conversation. 1235 01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:27.400 Revelation through conversation. 1236 01:04:37.320 --> 01:04:41.920 Out to let them know, I'm a real shock Luck 1237 01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:45.199 and Care Rots, Bud at the drug show. 1238 01:04:46.719 --> 01:04:50.559 I'm bringing all shot, Lock and care, Rots and Loud 1239 01:04:50.679 --> 01:04:54.800 at the drug show. Befo, we just met that the 1240 01:04:54.920 --> 01:04:59.920 world's worst professional prodoctor. Hit them like it's two thousands something. 1241 01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:03.599 A bucker's back on tool you never really wanted. 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His assassination took place in the context of 1249 01:05:26.920 --> 01:05:29.880 the Cold War and the rise of the national security state. 1250 01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:33.480 Before World War II, the United States was a continental republic. 1251 01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:36.920 In the decade that followed, it became an imperial superpower. 1252 01:05:37.199 --> 01:05:40.639 Generals such as Curtis LeMay not only wanted to invade Cuba, 1253 01:05:40.840 --> 01:05:43.039 but knew that there were short range missiles on the 1254 01:05:43.119 --> 01:05:46.239 island armed with nuclear warheads that they could not destroy 1255 01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:49.199 because they were on mobile launchers. Their invasion could have 1256 01:05:49.320 --> 01:05:52.280 led to a Third World War, and they wanted to 1257 01:05:52.320 --> 01:05:55.599 go to war anyway. The War State by Michael Swanson 1258 01:05:55.880 --> 01:05:58.639 reveals why and will show you what President Kennedy was 1259 01:05:58.760 --> 01:05:59.199 up against. 1260 01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:02.320 For more and from the Warstate dot Com. 1261 01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:06.599 Revelation through conversation, Go ahead, call it the. 1262 01:06:06.599 --> 01:06:08.280 Truth about the JAFA assassination. 1263 01:06:08.599 --> 01:06:09.519 Right, Well, what do you want to know? 1264 01:06:09.639 --> 01:06:13.119 Toddy Baker's wild claim oswal girlfriend he knew Ruby and 1265 01:06:13.159 --> 01:06:14.519 Barry Hanser weapons. 1266 01:06:14.599 --> 01:06:16.920 Really, I imagine I could claim I have four wheels. 1267 01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:18.039 It doesn't make me a wagon. 1268 01:06:18.159 --> 01:06:21.400 But okay, I'm the building and trying to prevent the 1269 01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:22.440 murder of John Kennedy. 1270 01:06:22.519 --> 01:06:23.440 Come on now, has a. 1271 01:06:23.519 --> 01:06:25.400 Real effort on the DAFA assassination. 1272 01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:26.480 Book into her claim. 1273 01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:30.639 Go to Amazon dot com enter Judith Baker in her 1274 01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:33.519 own words. You'll get the results for a digital copy 1275 01:06:33.639 --> 01:06:37.000 of a book where Walt Brown utilizes her own words 1276 01:06:37.159 --> 01:06:39.960 and the known evidence in the case to get at 1277 01:06:40.119 --> 01:06:43.599 well a different perspective. Let's say you can get Judith 1278 01:06:43.679 --> 01:06:46.880 Barry Baker in her own words from the author himself, 1279 01:06:47.079 --> 01:06:50.119 signed if you request it by contacting doctor Brown at 1280 01:06:50.199 --> 01:06:54.360 ki A s JFK at aol dot com. It's a 1281 01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:58.440 fun book and it actually dissects the many, many fantastic 1282 01:06:58.559 --> 01:07:01.519 claims Judith very Baker in her own words. 1283 01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:22.000 O Chili dot com, dot com Radio Network dot com 1284 01:07:22.360 --> 01:07:36.480 Radio Network, get. 1285 01:07:36.599 --> 01:07:37.679 Ready, get ready for. 1286 01:07:43.239 --> 01:07:46.599 The second segment of the Live Friday Night Open Mic 1287 01:07:46.639 --> 01:07:49.519 here on Ochilli dot com and the O'Kelly Effect. My 1288 01:07:49.639 --> 01:07:51.920 co host be Pete is with me and you could 1289 01:07:52.039 --> 01:07:54.840 join us if you like. Three one nine five two 1290 01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:57.800 seven five zero one six. That's the number to call 1291 01:07:57.920 --> 01:08:00.280 in and be a part of the show whatever you 1292 01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:02.880 want to bring up. So far, we've heard from Danny 1293 01:08:02.920 --> 01:08:09.920 in California and the wonderful and lively Gail Nick Jackson. Okay, 1294 01:08:10.840 --> 01:08:13.599 you know she's an author. Danny's a regular caller, and 1295 01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:16.319 looks like we have at least one other regular caller 1296 01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:19.079 on the line waiting to come and join us. Jimmy 1297 01:08:19.159 --> 01:08:23.279 James will be with us momentarily. But you you listening 1298 01:08:23.359 --> 01:08:25.680 right now, if you're hearing us live about let's see 1299 01:08:26.880 --> 01:08:29.720 what time is it. Oh, it's almost quarter after nine 1300 01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:32.319 in the Eastern time zone what we used to call America. 1301 01:08:33.039 --> 01:08:35.640 Just about ready to hit there. It is fifteen minutes 1302 01:08:35.680 --> 01:08:39.079 after nine pm Eastern in this place we used to 1303 01:08:39.079 --> 01:08:42.479 call America. And if you're hearing us live, cool, you 1304 01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:44.640 can call in and join us. You can also reach 1305 01:08:44.720 --> 01:08:47.079 me by a Skype. I am Charles do o'celly. If 1306 01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:49.439 you send me a text on there. I can call 1307 01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:52.119 you into the show if you ask me to, but 1308 01:08:52.479 --> 01:08:55.119 don't call me on Skype during the show. Or you 1309 01:08:55.159 --> 01:08:57.720 can just use the number three one nine five two 1310 01:08:57.840 --> 01:09:02.880 seven five zero six. And that's all there is to this, 1311 01:09:03.399 --> 01:09:05.479 bet Pete. Anything we need to get to before we 1312 01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:10.000 let Jimmy James loose on the air, no. 1313 01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:12.279 Go ahead and bring them out, all right. 1314 01:09:12.439 --> 01:09:14.159 And we do have some news stories to get to 1315 01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:16.439 a couple of things I wouldn't mind throwing out there, 1316 01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:19.680 maybe real quick if we can, before we go into 1317 01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:22.760 the back around to the callers. Unless we get new ones, 1318 01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:25.640 so Jimmy, and then maybe some news and then the 1319 01:09:25.720 --> 01:09:28.520 callers back around. That's the way I'm seeing it, And 1320 01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:33.159 that'll probably kill almost another hour. I mean, easily forty 1321 01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:36.039 five minutes that'll take, I'm sure, So let's see how 1322 01:09:36.079 --> 01:09:40.960 it goes. Jimmy James, you're live on the Friday night 1323 01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:43.079 open Mic. How you doing, man? What's on your mind? 1324 01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:47.199 Everything you. 1325 01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:50.319 Do? 1326 01:09:50.720 --> 01:09:51.520 Go talking about? 1327 01:09:51.560 --> 01:09:51.840 Beev? 1328 01:09:52.279 --> 01:09:56.279 She just makes some good movies. Man, likes. 1329 01:09:57.159 --> 01:10:00.800 You like that weird stagflick that I did I share 1330 01:10:00.840 --> 01:10:03.319 with you? Did I share with you the promo stills 1331 01:10:03.399 --> 01:10:03.640 from that? 1332 01:10:06.039 --> 01:10:06.199 Yes? 1333 01:10:06.520 --> 01:10:08.720 Yes, I have the little film. 1334 01:10:09.119 --> 01:10:09.800 Thank you, Chuck. 1335 01:10:13.039 --> 01:10:13.159 Uh. 1336 01:10:13.359 --> 01:10:16.359 Anyway, no no comment on any of that. And I 1337 01:10:16.479 --> 01:10:19.239 have no objection to somebody, you know, making their living 1338 01:10:19.279 --> 01:10:22.439 as an actress or wait, you're supposed to call them 1339 01:10:22.479 --> 01:10:24.880 all actors now, right, isn't that politically correct? You can't 1340 01:10:24.920 --> 01:10:28.479 call them actresses. They're all actors, whether they're male or female. 1341 01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:34.439 So uh, I don't want to smear anybody's acting career. Anyways, 1342 01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:37.279 Jimmy James, what's on what's on your mind? 1343 01:10:37.319 --> 01:10:37.520 Brother? 1344 01:10:37.600 --> 01:10:39.960 God performance? Yes? 1345 01:10:42.359 --> 01:10:48.840 Uh, well, you know I missed part of the thing, 1346 01:10:49.039 --> 01:10:53.039 but I heard Fale Nicks Jackson ask him, did you 1347 01:10:53.800 --> 01:10:54.960 mention my little. 1348 01:10:54.800 --> 01:10:58.760 Theory your theory? Which theory would that be, sir? 1349 01:11:02.199 --> 01:11:02.399 Oh? 1350 01:11:02.640 --> 01:11:06.680 Why the CIA in particular don't want those documents to 1351 01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:07.479 be released? 1352 01:11:07.960 --> 01:11:08.079 Oh? 1353 01:11:08.199 --> 01:11:10.199 I might have, But why don't you just reiterated for 1354 01:11:10.279 --> 01:11:11.119 everybody go ahead. 1355 01:11:14.840 --> 01:11:22.119 Well, mostly based on Major Newman's work, Gail, we know 1356 01:11:22.319 --> 01:11:30.479 that there's some pretty high level Soviet moles. Bruce Soley 1357 01:11:31.479 --> 01:11:36.079 was the boss to James Jesus Angleton, and he was 1358 01:11:36.119 --> 01:11:43.880 a Soviet mole. James McCord who literally cost Watergate. He 1359 01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:48.319 was a Soviet mole. Till O A G A g 1360 01:11:49.960 --> 01:11:56.000 QBG two got paid millions of dollars. So we just 1361 01:11:56.319 --> 01:12:01.960 we know that the whole CIA and really the bureaucracy 1362 01:12:02.399 --> 01:12:05.920 was just ate up the Soviet moles. I mean, it's 1363 01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:11.600 just turning out to be a fact. So I'm just 1364 01:12:12.039 --> 01:12:17.720 trying to figure it out how this works into the 1365 01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:19.319 whole JF case situation. 1366 01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:24.079 So what you're saying, Jimmy, just to be clear, Sorry, Jimmy, 1367 01:12:24.319 --> 01:12:26.439 just to be clear, what you're saying is maybe the 1368 01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:29.560 reason for the cover up and the reason for not 1369 01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:32.039 wanting to share the documentation is that it might be 1370 01:12:32.159 --> 01:12:36.159 revealed to the American public that our entire intelligence community 1371 01:12:36.319 --> 01:12:41.720 was fully infiltrated and saturated with Soviet moles. And maybe 1372 01:12:41.800 --> 01:12:44.119 that's the thing they don't want the people to know 1373 01:12:44.840 --> 01:12:46.520 that at the time of the Cold War, when we 1374 01:12:46.600 --> 01:12:49.199 were supposed to have superiority and all that good stuff, 1375 01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:51.600 that we were actually loaded up with all kinds of 1376 01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:55.800 double agents and people going ahead and reporting to the Soviets. 1377 01:12:55.920 --> 01:13:00.319 Is that your supposition, yes, it is. 1378 01:13:01.359 --> 01:13:08.680 Usually put chuck very much. And like Jim McCord, his 1379 01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:17.039 handler worked for the FBI, Pennington Lee Pennington, and it's 1380 01:13:17.159 --> 01:13:20.159 my supposition that he also was a Soviet mole. 1381 01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:22.039 So it's the whole. 1382 01:13:21.880 --> 01:13:28.680 Bureaucracy, I think. And you think about these LBJ tapes 1383 01:13:28.800 --> 01:13:33.000 and all the documents and stuff. These people were scared 1384 01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:35.560 to death. They were going to go to war with Russia. 1385 01:13:36.600 --> 01:13:41.000 This was the constant theme, right if you listen to 1386 01:13:41.119 --> 01:13:45.640 these LBJ tapes, especially when he talks to Hoober. And 1387 01:13:46.479 --> 01:13:50.479 as Professor Melan has pointed out, who is running the 1388 01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:54.199 cover up? Who is the driving force? How could have 1389 01:13:54.319 --> 01:13:57.760 any of this even happen? Sad to say it was 1390 01:13:58.039 --> 01:14:02.680 RFK RFK led to cover up. I know that's hard 1391 01:14:02.760 --> 01:14:06.720 to hear. People don't like to hear that, but that's 1392 01:14:06.800 --> 01:14:07.239 the truth. 1393 01:14:08.359 --> 01:14:11.359 Well, and there you go. You have even the public 1394 01:14:11.439 --> 01:14:14.479 declarations where you're talking about with this whole fear of 1395 01:14:14.560 --> 01:14:18.359 war with the Soviets. You know that this is allegedly 1396 01:14:18.520 --> 01:14:21.920 exactly the thing that he brought the Chief Justice of 1397 01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:24.880 the Supreme Court to tears with, right, is making him 1398 01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:27.199 feel responsible. Listen, if we don't figure out a way 1399 01:14:27.239 --> 01:14:29.279 to put a lid on this with the Warren Commission, 1400 01:14:30.239 --> 01:14:33.319 Earl Warren, you know, we may be faced with a 1401 01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:38.239 serious war here, right, put your uniform back on again. 1402 01:14:38.319 --> 01:14:40.720 All these sentiments right, right. 1403 01:14:41.439 --> 01:14:45.399 And everyone's always a fired Oh he was just putting 1404 01:14:45.439 --> 01:14:46.399 the moves. 1405 01:14:46.079 --> 01:14:47.039 On the old guy. 1406 01:14:47.760 --> 01:14:49.880 No LBJ and these people. 1407 01:14:49.680 --> 01:14:53.520 Were very much scared that there is going to be war. 1408 01:14:55.279 --> 01:14:59.920 That's clear from the documents. I think when you say, Chuck, well, 1409 01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:00.960 you know, I don't. 1410 01:15:01.319 --> 01:15:04.319 I don't know how I feel about that as a 1411 01:15:04.680 --> 01:15:09.000 prevailing theory. Is it a possibility? I imagine it is, 1412 01:15:09.399 --> 01:15:11.960 But you know, is it, you know, one of these 1413 01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:14.840 things that has the weight of the evidence on its 1414 01:15:14.920 --> 01:15:18.920 side Altogether? I'm not sure, but it's just as reasonable. 1415 01:15:20.399 --> 01:15:24.359 The man's own brother, the man's own brother say yeah, 1416 01:15:24.399 --> 01:15:26.199 we got to put his cap. 1417 01:15:26.079 --> 01:15:30.479 On this well, some other malfeasance that was maybe committed 1418 01:15:30.560 --> 01:15:34.760 by that administration, his brother directly, or even himself, that 1419 01:15:34.960 --> 01:15:38.880 he wanted to keep, you know, out of anybody's hands. 1420 01:15:38.960 --> 01:15:41.520 Let's keep this secret, even from other parts of the government. 1421 01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:45.079 There's a possibility is maybe they were doing things they 1422 01:15:45.239 --> 01:15:48.039 really shouldn't have been doing. And it's stuff that we 1423 01:15:48.199 --> 01:15:51.600 have yet to even hear about, you know, outside of 1424 01:15:51.680 --> 01:15:56.239 the Cuban sabotage and those programs. I mean, there's a 1425 01:15:56.279 --> 01:15:58.920 lot worse things that the Kennedy administration could have been 1426 01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:02.720 involved in that maybe we still don't know. And I'm 1427 01:16:02.720 --> 01:16:04.800 not trying to go for the dark side of Camelot here, 1428 01:16:04.840 --> 01:16:08.399 I'm just saying that why not open your mind to 1429 01:16:08.439 --> 01:16:11.680 that possibility as well, right, just to simply protect his 1430 01:16:11.800 --> 01:16:15.000 brother and himself, maybe it was like, look, they can't 1431 01:16:15.039 --> 01:16:17.079 be digging into this too much because it'll lead to 1432 01:16:17.960 --> 01:16:21.159 these other things that still history has not recorded even 1433 01:16:21.199 --> 01:16:25.960 sixty years later. There's a possibility right there that doesn't 1434 01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:28.880 have anything to do with the Soviets necessarily, It might 1435 01:16:28.960 --> 01:16:33.920 have to do with the Kennedy family. You know, so, 1436 01:16:34.239 --> 01:16:36.199 I mean, I'm just throwing it out as they yet 1437 01:16:36.199 --> 01:16:38.600 another logical possibility. Jimmy, what do you think. 1438 01:16:41.359 --> 01:16:48.640 Yeah, I think if Trump actually does get elect that 1439 01:16:48.800 --> 01:16:53.439 those papers probably would get released that I think RFK 1440 01:16:53.760 --> 01:16:56.520 juniors to be the DCI. 1441 01:16:58.079 --> 01:17:03.079 But at this time, I have to I'm not feeling 1442 01:17:03.319 --> 01:17:05.399 too good about Trump's chance straight. 1443 01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:10.680 I still, I gotta tell you, I still feel like 1444 01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:12.800 he's in there and you just got to wait for 1445 01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:15.800 the enthusiasm for Kamala to die off. And it will. 1446 01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:17.600 I think it will by the time people go to 1447 01:17:17.640 --> 01:17:21.399 the voting booth. So you know, that's that's where it's at. 1448 01:17:21.520 --> 01:17:23.439 And the people that are with Trump are with Trump. 1449 01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:26.239 I mean, I even did a show recently in what 1450 01:17:26.399 --> 01:17:30.039 I call trump Landia over there with a host guy 1451 01:17:30.199 --> 01:17:31.560 used to be on this show all the time. I 1452 01:17:31.560 --> 01:17:35.000 don't know if you remember him, Roger Landry, the head 1453 01:17:35.000 --> 01:17:40.960 of the Liberty Beacon Project, right, And yes, they're all 1454 01:17:41.079 --> 01:17:44.600 in on Trump and all about you know, the existential 1455 01:17:44.680 --> 01:17:48.479 threat of Kamala and all that, and that's where he's at. 1456 01:17:48.760 --> 01:17:50.600 And you know, I did a whole show with him 1457 01:17:51.880 --> 01:17:53.880 pretty much, you know, talking about we still need to 1458 01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:56.640 continue the work when it comes to the JFK assassination 1459 01:17:56.800 --> 01:18:00.319 because something of significance was stolen from this country on 1460 01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:03.199 that day. Uh, you know. And some people are starting 1461 01:18:03.199 --> 01:18:05.359 to push back against the thing that is key to me, 1462 01:18:05.800 --> 01:18:09.039 which is the Vietnam War even happening. Uh you know, 1463 01:18:09.239 --> 01:18:11.399 they say, well, you can't say that that wouldn't happen 1464 01:18:11.439 --> 01:18:14.640 if JFK was still in office. Well not definitively, but 1465 01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:17.640 it sure looks like that wasn't going to happen, you know, 1466 01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:21.720 if JFK had lived. But you know, here we go. 1467 01:18:22.159 --> 01:18:23.880 Are we going to continue to argue about it? Or 1468 01:18:23.880 --> 01:18:25.000 are we going to get down to it? And I 1469 01:18:25.039 --> 01:18:26.720 think we need to get down to it more and more. 1470 01:18:27.279 --> 01:18:31.720 And the more of the original documentation, the original films, 1471 01:18:31.760 --> 01:18:34.520 the original everything we can get our hands on, the better. 1472 01:18:35.920 --> 01:18:37.600 But is it going to be the secrets are going 1473 01:18:37.640 --> 01:18:40.439 to be in the government vaults? Probably not. There's going 1474 01:18:40.520 --> 01:18:41.880 to have to be something else that needs to be 1475 01:18:41.920 --> 01:18:46.920 added in here in my mind, but anyway, that's my 1476 01:18:47.039 --> 01:18:47.800 way of looking at it. 1477 01:18:48.600 --> 01:18:53.640 The idea of you know, like everyone's saying, there should 1478 01:18:53.640 --> 01:18:57.039 be some kind of prime That's kind of what I 1479 01:18:57.239 --> 01:19:01.840 thought one of you guys be talking about book back thinking, 1480 01:19:01.920 --> 01:19:06.359 a book with absolutely what's known to be one hundred 1481 01:19:06.359 --> 01:19:10.319 percent back right, suppose snow. 1482 01:19:10.520 --> 01:19:13.560 Yeah, here's your hundred percent facts, here's some pretty good 1483 01:19:14.399 --> 01:19:17.359 ideas about stuff, and here's the terrible stuff. Like give 1484 01:19:17.399 --> 01:19:20.720 them all three stages in one little handbook that gives 1485 01:19:20.760 --> 01:19:23.319 them a guide to be able to navigate this stuff, 1486 01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:27.960 and produced by a committee of reliable and responsible people. 1487 01:19:29.720 --> 01:19:32.319 You know, I would love to be involved in overseeing it, 1488 01:19:32.479 --> 01:19:34.600 but I don't think I'm worthy of contributing to it 1489 01:19:34.760 --> 01:19:38.039 very much. I think there's other people that have done 1490 01:19:39.279 --> 01:19:42.199 more work than me, have done better work than me, 1491 01:19:42.800 --> 01:19:46.159 and have done specific work on certain areas that I 1492 01:19:46.279 --> 01:19:48.359 might have touched on. But look, I mean, I couldn't 1493 01:19:48.359 --> 01:19:53.319 devote twenty years to one thing some people have, you know. 1494 01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:59.159 Honestly, maybe the wise thing to do would be to 1495 01:19:59.239 --> 01:19:59.960 get an out. 1496 01:20:02.479 --> 01:20:05.359 A person to. 1497 01:20:07.479 --> 01:20:12.800 Look at it, who stood at took together the information, 1498 01:20:14.960 --> 01:20:17.199 like trying to say, well. 1499 01:20:17.439 --> 01:20:19.399 You're probably thinking that we should have you know, two 1500 01:20:19.640 --> 01:20:22.920 arbitrary like historians, or at least one on the team 1501 01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:26.520 there who doesn't have a dog in the fight either way, 1502 01:20:27.399 --> 01:20:30.680 that just sort of wants to preserve the history and 1503 01:20:31.239 --> 01:20:34.920 doesn't have you know, an agenda, like just a straight 1504 01:20:35.119 --> 01:20:38.279 historian who's not convinced one way or the other. That 1505 01:20:38.520 --> 01:20:41.279 kind of guy would be extremely helpful on this team. 1506 01:20:41.159 --> 01:20:47.239 Right, Yeah, the opposite of us or Posner or Room 1507 01:20:47.479 --> 01:20:51.920 or anyone that thinks that the warm reports true. 1508 01:20:53.239 --> 01:20:55.880 Right, somebody who looks at this and goes, look, you 1509 01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:59.439 both have valid points, but we need to get down to, 1510 01:20:59.760 --> 01:21:02.279 you know, the basic reality, which is, at the end 1511 01:21:02.319 --> 01:21:06.439 of the day, this thing only happened one way. Several 1512 01:21:06.560 --> 01:21:10.359 things could have happened during this one way circumstance. But 1513 01:21:11.920 --> 01:21:13.840 you know what, there's a lot of things that need 1514 01:21:13.920 --> 01:21:16.359 to be just eliminated and cleared away so that we 1515 01:21:16.479 --> 01:21:21.880 have what is reliably possible first and what is known. 1516 01:21:22.720 --> 01:21:25.560 And if you put those two things together and clearly 1517 01:21:26.279 --> 01:21:29.199 define and clear away the brush, you know, the the 1518 01:21:29.640 --> 01:21:33.199 debris of nonsense that has also been spread around, to 1519 01:21:33.279 --> 01:21:37.680 be clear that stuff all away, definitively, you might have 1520 01:21:37.840 --> 01:21:42.840 something very valuable in one particular piece of work. So 1521 01:21:43.039 --> 01:21:46.000 whether it's a film or it's a or it's a book, 1522 01:21:46.239 --> 01:21:48.520 or it's a guide book, or it's both. Maybe it's 1523 01:21:49.640 --> 01:21:52.600 a small program. Here's your book that goes along with 1524 01:21:52.720 --> 01:21:55.920 your film. You know, put these two things together and 1525 01:21:56.079 --> 01:22:00.760 you have an excellent course on the assassin, so that 1526 01:22:01.479 --> 01:22:03.479 somebody could kind of come in and get a crash course. 1527 01:22:03.520 --> 01:22:07.119 Here's known facts, here's pretty good ideas, and here's the nonsense, 1528 01:22:08.159 --> 01:22:10.520 which would not be a bad primer like you were saying. 1529 01:22:11.159 --> 01:22:16.319 So I think it's an excellent idea, Jimmy, Yeah. 1530 01:22:16.479 --> 01:22:20.279 I like how Gale mentioned it could be almost like 1531 01:22:20.399 --> 01:22:24.640 an index, so he can actually find things. I'm like, say, 1532 01:22:24.960 --> 01:22:26.560 the worm commissioner. 1533 01:22:26.479 --> 01:22:29.279 Right, right, and commission. 1534 01:22:31.039 --> 01:22:35.479 This has been ruled on James or Judge Garris since 1535 01:22:35.720 --> 01:22:40.399 during his trial in his DA worn commission reports nothing 1536 01:22:40.439 --> 01:22:46.199 but hearsay. That's been the legal opinion. And they're right. 1537 01:22:46.279 --> 01:22:53.680 It's a one way prosecutorial document and it's garbage. So mind, 1538 01:22:55.039 --> 01:22:57.279 what I'm trying to do is come up with an 1539 01:22:57.319 --> 01:22:58.840 opposite document. 1540 01:23:00.199 --> 01:23:03.399 Yeah, and this is where a standard of evidence needs 1541 01:23:03.439 --> 01:23:05.479 to be adhere to and all of that. I mean, 1542 01:23:05.920 --> 01:23:07.680 it would be quite a piece of work. It's not 1543 01:23:07.800 --> 01:23:10.159 something we could throw together in like two months. You know, 1544 01:23:10.840 --> 01:23:12.680 it would be quite a piece of work to vet 1545 01:23:12.840 --> 01:23:15.760 and carefully assess every single thing that goes into it, 1546 01:23:16.920 --> 01:23:19.920 so that we would have a very very valuable primer, 1547 01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:23.079 as you said, So I think that would be great. Anyway, 1548 01:23:23.159 --> 01:23:25.840 we didn't get any new callers, b Pete, but Jimmy 1549 01:23:25.880 --> 01:23:28.800 still on the line. We still have Gail and Danny 1550 01:23:29.239 --> 01:23:31.920 hanging on. So where should we go from here, sir? 1551 01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:33.960 Should we do a little news or what do you 1552 01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:34.640 want to do next? 1553 01:23:36.239 --> 01:23:38.119 Well, I mean, we've got a few stories here. We 1554 01:23:38.279 --> 01:23:40.680 put on put one link in the room there. This 1555 01:23:40.880 --> 01:23:43.760 is probably the top story that just baffled me all week. 1556 01:23:44.079 --> 01:23:46.079 Okay, I'm gonna put you on hold, Jimmy, but we'll 1557 01:23:46.119 --> 01:23:47.880 come back around to you. Okay, So I'll put you 1558 01:23:47.960 --> 01:23:50.159 on hold and we will get back around to every caller. 1559 01:23:50.720 --> 01:23:53.920 So Jimmy's on hold, and yeah, we'll just glide through 1560 01:23:54.039 --> 01:23:57.720 some of these interesting points of information in the news cycle. 1561 01:23:57.800 --> 01:23:58.600 Go ahead, be Pete. 1562 01:24:00.319 --> 01:24:01.960 Yeah, this one florided me when I heard it. I 1563 01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:05.920 couldn't believe that. I mean that it happened this way. 1564 01:24:06.079 --> 01:24:11.199 Apparently a woman in Tempe, Arizona, went to work at 1565 01:24:11.239 --> 01:24:15.560 Wells Fargo Bank on Friday morning, and she scanned herselfie 1566 01:24:15.600 --> 01:24:18.479 and I don't know they used slight ideas or what. Anyway, 1567 01:24:18.560 --> 01:24:22.279 she was scanned into work. No scans of her leaving work. 1568 01:24:23.680 --> 01:24:25.279 They found her on. 1569 01:24:25.520 --> 01:24:30.199 Tuesday dead in her cubicle, and they estimate that she 1570 01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:36.279 died Friday. This place has twenty four hours security. Okay, 1571 01:24:42.439 --> 01:25:06.720 uh uh, you know you're up on the third floor. 1572 01:25:08.119 --> 01:25:10.880 It should be so isolated that no one even goes 1573 01:25:10.960 --> 01:25:12.560 by your cubicle for four days. 1574 01:25:13.920 --> 01:25:17.600 Hmm. Yeah, how in the world. Okay, let me get 1575 01:25:17.680 --> 01:25:20.079 this straight, because we had a little little minor electronic 1576 01:25:20.159 --> 01:25:25.119 glitch there for a second. What you're saying is what 1577 01:25:25.319 --> 01:25:28.000 day was it that she was last seen and when 1578 01:25:28.079 --> 01:25:30.039 did they discover Let me let me get a handle 1579 01:25:30.079 --> 01:25:30.600 on this again. 1580 01:25:32.199 --> 01:25:36.279 She scanned into work Friday morning, Okay, Friday morning, and 1581 01:25:36.520 --> 01:25:39.960 she didn't Yeah, she didn't log outs, didn't scan out, 1582 01:25:40.039 --> 01:25:43.840 so she didn't go home. Well, they found her Tuesday morning, 1583 01:25:45.039 --> 01:25:47.279 but it was after, you know, she'd been there the 1584 01:25:47.319 --> 01:25:49.840 whole weekend. They think she died on Friday based on 1585 01:25:49.960 --> 01:25:53.359 the initial reports, he says. A tempting police said they 1586 01:25:53.399 --> 01:25:56.760 received a call from a coworker on Tuesday after they 1587 01:25:56.920 --> 01:25:59.239 noticed the foul smell in their office and followed it 1588 01:25:59.359 --> 01:26:00.039 to find six. 1589 01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:02.039 Ste Herold Denise Prudeholm's body. 1590 01:26:02.359 --> 01:26:04.560 Oh boys, she stand in her id to get into 1591 01:26:04.640 --> 01:26:07.119 the building the friday before, but there were no scams 1592 01:26:07.159 --> 01:26:11.119 in or out after that, and several of the employees 1593 01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:14.000 reported that they, you know, there was a strong odor, 1594 01:26:14.119 --> 01:26:15.359 so they tracked it down. 1595 01:26:15.720 --> 01:26:18.000 I put the link to this Sidney room if anybody 1596 01:26:18.079 --> 01:26:21.119 wants to go watch the coverage from Chicago. But I 1597 01:26:21.279 --> 01:26:23.560 just thought it was strange because it could go four 1598 01:26:23.680 --> 01:26:25.159 days and nobody finds you. 1599 01:26:26.600 --> 01:26:29.520 Well, you know, there's proof positive that there's more strange 1600 01:26:29.560 --> 01:26:33.039 things going on in Chicago than a gunplay. But uh, 1601 01:26:34.159 --> 01:26:36.439 how do you sit there? I mean, nobody bothered to 1602 01:26:36.520 --> 01:26:39.159 look in on her. That is a weird situation. Like 1603 01:26:39.239 --> 01:26:44.279 how isolated are you at work that nobody goes to 1604 01:26:44.359 --> 01:26:48.560 look at you all that time? BPTE? I mean, that's 1605 01:26:49.159 --> 01:27:11.760 what do you say to that? Hello? Oh h hmm, 1606 01:27:15.439 --> 01:27:17.600 all right, something has happened here and I'm not sure 1607 01:27:17.640 --> 01:27:21.680 what and I can't hear be Pete. So maybe why 1608 01:27:21.720 --> 01:27:24.640 can't I hear be Pete? This is strange. 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Why the Vietnam 1637 01:30:03.960 --> 01:30:05.680 War by author Mike Swantz. 1638 01:30:05.880 --> 01:30:08.960 Yo yois Doug Campbell, host of the Dallas Action Podcast 1639 01:30:09.079 --> 01:30:12.239 presented by Wall Street Window. And you are listening to 1640 01:30:12.359 --> 01:30:17.920 the o'chill Effect revelation through conversation going. 1641 01:30:17.760 --> 01:30:18.680 To Chuck o'chelly. 1642 01:30:26.840 --> 01:30:27.920 You're Sucker Shelley. 1643 01:30:27.960 --> 01:30:29.239 You know it's chauncra Shelley. 1644 01:30:29.399 --> 01:30:32.800 You are about doing Martin uponament ring husay. The eyes 1645 01:30:32.840 --> 01:30:35.560 of the world are upon you. The hopes and prayers 1646 01:30:35.600 --> 01:30:40.119 of liberty loving people everywhere march with you, in company 1647 01:30:40.199 --> 01:30:42.960 with our brave allies and brothers in arms on the 1648 01:30:42.960 --> 01:30:43.479 other front. 1649 01:30:44.680 --> 01:30:47.880 Your task will not see an easy one. Your enemy is. 1650 01:30:47.920 --> 01:30:51.560 Well trained, well equipped, and battle heart. He will fight 1651 01:30:51.720 --> 01:30:54.199 that man demand. 1652 01:30:55.520 --> 01:30:56.399 The title turn. 1653 01:30:57.359 --> 01:30:59.880 The freemen of the world are marching together to the 1654 01:31:01.479 --> 01:31:03.520 good luck and let it all be. 1655 01:31:04.439 --> 01:31:08.039 I'm Almighty God, upon this great and noble undertaking. 1656 01:31:28.880 --> 01:31:31.800 Little minor technical failure, we should be back on the 1657 01:31:31.920 --> 01:31:36.039 air at Ochelly dot com. Still got my callers, Jimmy 1658 01:31:36.119 --> 01:31:38.600 James dropped off the line. He probably didn't know what happened. 1659 01:31:38.640 --> 01:31:40.760 I didn't know what happened for a minute. Uh, we 1660 01:31:40.880 --> 01:31:44.319 were all gone, it like we were disconnected there momentarily. 1661 01:31:44.800 --> 01:31:49.239 So the question I asked before we went dead was, uh, BP, 1662 01:31:49.920 --> 01:31:51.840 what is going on with this lady? 1663 01:31:52.079 --> 01:31:52.119 Was? 1664 01:31:52.319 --> 01:31:55.960 You know she was found days later? What is that about? 1665 01:31:56.079 --> 01:31:58.239 I mean they didn't find her for all those days 1666 01:31:59.039 --> 01:32:00.319 when she like and. 1667 01:32:00.479 --> 01:32:04.039 Yeah, and apparently security going through and checking the buildings 1668 01:32:04.119 --> 01:32:04.840 on the weekends. 1669 01:32:04.920 --> 01:32:07.239 I mean they have to rotate each towards and they 1670 01:32:07.319 --> 01:32:08.279 didn't find her either. 1671 01:32:08.880 --> 01:32:12.079 Wow. So what kind of job you have where you're 1672 01:32:12.159 --> 01:32:15.800 that isolated that nobody sees you over the weekend, you know, 1673 01:32:16.319 --> 01:32:20.359 all day Friday and Monday. Finally on Tuesday they called 1674 01:32:20.399 --> 01:32:22.760 and said, you know, something stinks in here. I mean 1675 01:32:23.640 --> 01:32:24.840 that's is that right? 1676 01:32:25.920 --> 01:32:26.119 Well? 1677 01:32:26.319 --> 01:32:29.039 Yeah, and this is the opposite of what usually happens. 1678 01:32:29.079 --> 01:32:31.359 You know, usually someone doesn't show up to work on 1679 01:32:31.520 --> 01:32:32.560 Monday and people are. 1680 01:32:32.520 --> 01:32:35.079 Calling, right, oh, so and so it's not a work 1681 01:32:35.119 --> 01:32:37.520 and you go check, you know, do a welfare check. 1682 01:32:37.640 --> 01:32:41.079 Well, she didn't show up to work Mondays because she 1683 01:32:41.279 --> 01:32:43.079 was still logged in at being at work. 1684 01:32:43.199 --> 01:32:45.640 So they figured that she was up and her cubicle 1685 01:32:45.840 --> 01:32:46.560 just working away. 1686 01:32:48.159 --> 01:32:52.840 Wow. So nobody noticed her at work. Usually people notice 1687 01:32:52.880 --> 01:32:53.920 when you didn't go to work. 1688 01:32:54.800 --> 01:32:57.640 Yeah, there, nobody noticed her until she started smellling a 1689 01:32:57.680 --> 01:32:58.279 little earthy. 1690 01:32:58.760 --> 01:33:03.520 Wow. Oh man, that's that's rough, I mean, bizarre story. 1691 01:33:03.560 --> 01:33:05.720 But like I said, I guess not the only weird 1692 01:33:05.760 --> 01:33:08.800 thing in Chicago isn't just the gunplay. You know, everybody 1693 01:33:08.840 --> 01:33:10.840 talks about that's pretty weird right there. 1694 01:33:11.399 --> 01:33:13.760 It's kind of strange though, because they you know, they 1695 01:33:13.840 --> 01:33:15.560 said there was a strong odor and they thought it 1696 01:33:15.680 --> 01:33:18.720 was a problem with the plumbing. Now, you know a 1697 01:33:18.800 --> 01:33:22.960 lot of people have never smelt something being dead, especially 1698 01:33:23.039 --> 01:33:26.479 a person. It's a totally different smell than the plumbing. 1699 01:33:26.920 --> 01:33:28.159 It's bad, I mean, but. 1700 01:33:28.279 --> 01:33:31.960 This is weird that you know, she comes to work Friday, 1701 01:33:32.159 --> 01:33:34.399 so she had interactions with people during the day or 1702 01:33:34.479 --> 01:33:37.960 she was doing work. I'm trying to see if I 1703 01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:40.119 can find out how they figured out about what time 1704 01:33:40.239 --> 01:33:42.920 she died unless it was just through riga mortis and everything, 1705 01:33:43.039 --> 01:33:45.960 but like, was her important, you know, was her computer 1706 01:33:46.119 --> 01:33:47.399 still on well? 1707 01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:50.199 Or have a time of her last entry. That's the 1708 01:33:50.279 --> 01:33:50.720 weird thing. 1709 01:33:51.600 --> 01:33:56.319 Security goes through for Saturday, Sunday, everybody was back at 1710 01:33:56.399 --> 01:33:57.199 work on Monday. 1711 01:33:57.840 --> 01:33:58.880 Nobody checked on her. 1712 01:33:59.319 --> 01:34:01.079 Frankly, Rigor Mortis probably. 1713 01:34:00.920 --> 01:34:04.760 Work on Tuesday, and nobody checked on her rights for 1714 01:34:04.960 --> 01:34:05.560 the smell. 1715 01:34:05.840 --> 01:34:08.640 So Rigor Mortis probably came and went already, and now 1716 01:34:08.680 --> 01:34:11.159 she's still starting to rot. I mean, as terrible as 1717 01:34:11.199 --> 01:34:12.840 that is, I know. 1718 01:34:14.479 --> 01:34:17.279 God, I hope hell somebody finds me before four days 1719 01:34:17.279 --> 01:34:18.239 if I'm at work and I. 1720 01:34:18.399 --> 01:34:21.680 Die, especially here in the South where it's hot all 1721 01:34:21.760 --> 01:34:25.960 the time. I mean, not good, not good. 1722 01:34:27.039 --> 01:34:31.039 If you passed away coffee, coffee with grounds, wouldn't even burn. 1723 01:34:31.159 --> 01:34:32.560 Coffee, wouldn't cover that smell. 1724 01:34:32.800 --> 01:34:33.359 Now it is. 1725 01:34:33.840 --> 01:34:37.840 It is a distinctive and terrible smell. Unfortunately I am 1726 01:34:37.960 --> 01:34:42.840 familiar with it. Oh my god. Anyways, other weird stories 1727 01:34:43.840 --> 01:34:44.680 that I had. 1728 01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:48.920 I got another naked news story here you dropped yours 1729 01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:52.560 in the room. And the other one here is naked 1730 01:34:52.640 --> 01:34:55.600 carjacker reaks havoc on the streets of Iowa. 1731 01:34:55.960 --> 01:35:00.560 And this is a MZ story apparently, And I saved 1732 01:35:00.600 --> 01:35:02.560 this the other week when I read I thought, hop 1733 01:35:02.680 --> 01:35:03.239 naked news. 1734 01:35:04.079 --> 01:35:05.800 This is truly naked. It's not fringe. 1735 01:35:06.800 --> 01:35:09.680 They have video of this guy running wild on the 1736 01:35:09.720 --> 01:35:13.479 streets of Iowa and hijacking a car before he was arrested, 1737 01:35:14.199 --> 01:35:17.640 and they got the guy's mumpshop up here. It says 1738 01:35:18.880 --> 01:35:22.880 the man identified as Tyler Merle Johnson sprints around downtown 1739 01:35:22.960 --> 01:35:25.279 Des Moines in the buff in the early hours of 1740 01:35:25.359 --> 01:35:30.039 Tuesday before diving into an open car window, totally freaking 1741 01:35:30.119 --> 01:35:30.800 out the driver. 1742 01:35:32.800 --> 01:35:34.800 I can see what that would freak somebody out. 1743 01:35:35.920 --> 01:35:39.640 Yeah, sure, that almost reminds me of the night that 1744 01:35:40.079 --> 01:35:43.239 missus O went to Wendy's and we got treated. Remember 1745 01:35:43.319 --> 01:35:45.319 I showed you the pictures of that lady that just 1746 01:35:45.359 --> 01:35:50.640 started stripping at the Wendy's driving and it was craziness. 1747 01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:53.319 We actually got filming at It was not a pleasant 1748 01:35:53.359 --> 01:35:56.239 sight anybody that's getting excited about thinking about it. It 1749 01:35:56.439 --> 01:35:58.880 was not a lady that you'd want to see stripping. 1750 01:36:00.439 --> 01:36:04.159 Yeah, Apparently this guy dives into the window and the 1751 01:36:04.279 --> 01:36:06.600 owner of the car it's in a fight with him. 1752 01:36:06.720 --> 01:36:10.520 He's standing outside the naked guy, and they have footage 1753 01:36:10.560 --> 01:36:12.760 of all this. The naked guy it slams it in 1754 01:36:12.920 --> 01:36:16.039 reverse and takes off and the cops chase and then 1755 01:36:16.079 --> 01:36:18.680 they caught up with him after getting crashed into a tree. 1756 01:36:19.039 --> 01:36:21.680 Wow. So the naked guy dives into the car and 1757 01:36:21.760 --> 01:36:23.960 fights with the guy and this is how he carjacked. 1758 01:36:24.600 --> 01:36:27.680 That is something you're willing to carjack naked? I mean 1759 01:36:28.479 --> 01:36:31.359 talking about fearless. I mean, well, it's got to be hard. 1760 01:36:31.760 --> 01:36:36.119 I don't understand criminals doing stuff naked because most criminals 1761 01:36:36.159 --> 01:36:39.520 are going to have a gun or a pry bar 1762 01:36:39.680 --> 01:36:42.640 to break into something, and when you're naked, you just 1763 01:36:42.720 --> 01:36:44.199 got nowhere to put your tools. 1764 01:36:45.119 --> 01:36:47.000 It's got to be inconvenient as hell. 1765 01:36:47.359 --> 01:36:51.760 There's one thing sure, No pockets definitely a drawback. I mean, 1766 01:36:52.880 --> 01:36:54.920 and some people are loud and proud. I mean maybe 1767 01:36:54.960 --> 01:36:56.800 they just want to show off. They got something to 1768 01:36:56.840 --> 01:36:59.199 show off. I don't know. What can I tell you? 1769 01:36:59.399 --> 01:37:02.159 We gone through and naked News is a regular feature, 1770 01:37:02.239 --> 01:37:04.640 or at least a semi regular feature on here. We 1771 01:37:05.039 --> 01:37:06.800 have run into a bunch of times where it's like, 1772 01:37:06.960 --> 01:37:10.720 why is this person naked? Like I can't even come 1773 01:37:10.760 --> 01:37:13.199 up with a reasonable purpose for why they're naked. In 1774 01:37:13.279 --> 01:37:16.359 some cases, carjacking is one of those cases. I would 1775 01:37:16.399 --> 01:37:20.239 think that having clothing on would be to your advantage carjacking. 1776 01:37:21.000 --> 01:37:23.560 You know, that's like the guy that we started the 1777 01:37:23.640 --> 01:37:26.399 naked news with the guy in assphole that's still waiting 1778 01:37:26.479 --> 01:37:28.560 on you know, eighty seven charges. 1779 01:37:28.760 --> 01:37:33.119 Yeah, my question is this, how did he get naked? 1780 01:37:33.479 --> 01:37:34.479 I've not been able to. 1781 01:37:34.560 --> 01:37:37.600 I have sent emails to a couple of reporters to 1782 01:37:37.800 --> 01:37:40.720 ask the guy that question if they get in sense, 1783 01:37:41.279 --> 01:37:43.960 how did he get naked? It would force him to 1784 01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:47.079 try to break into a house with a ring doorbell 1785 01:37:47.239 --> 01:37:52.039 or a camper and steal somebody's car. What did he 1786 01:37:52.159 --> 01:37:55.239 get naked before he went on the rampage or did 1787 01:37:55.279 --> 01:37:59.479 he find himself in a situation where he was naked. 1788 01:38:00.239 --> 01:38:02.600 He's just trying to get hold. That's the part I 1789 01:38:02.640 --> 01:38:03.119 don't get. 1790 01:38:03.439 --> 01:38:06.760 Yeah, who knows. I mean maybe you know there was 1791 01:38:06.840 --> 01:38:08.960 some terrible thing that happened to his clothes and he 1792 01:38:09.039 --> 01:38:11.000 had to ditch him. I mean, did anybody ever find 1793 01:38:11.039 --> 01:38:12.680 his clothes? We never got that answer. 1794 01:38:13.680 --> 01:38:17.840 Oh, and I can't believe the story. The local media 1795 01:38:17.880 --> 01:38:19.840 out there has dropped this story. The guy's got to 1796 01:38:19.880 --> 01:38:22.319 have a record for having the most charges of waiting 1797 01:38:22.319 --> 01:38:24.199 the longest before he ever goes to court. 1798 01:38:24.319 --> 01:38:26.760 Yeah, this is what two years years now? Yeah, it's 1799 01:38:26.800 --> 01:38:29.239 been like over two years. But I've told you before, 1800 01:38:29.399 --> 01:38:32.479 even regular non bizarre charges. Some people sit for two 1801 01:38:32.520 --> 01:38:35.119 three years waiting to go to court, waiting to go 1802 01:38:35.199 --> 01:38:38.880 to trial, and sometimes you know, and he hasn't made bail, 1803 01:38:38.960 --> 01:38:41.239 this guy, right, so you know, no bail hotel. 1804 01:38:41.520 --> 01:38:43.920 Well you know, well because one of his charges is 1805 01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:47.600 trying to run over a deputy sheriff with a stolen car. 1806 01:38:48.039 --> 01:38:50.800 Right, so that's one of those major felonies. They'll hold 1807 01:38:50.840 --> 01:38:56.199 you or give you no bail. Maybe. Anyway, naked news 1808 01:38:56.479 --> 01:38:58.840 is a weird thing. And I got I got even stranger, 1809 01:38:58.880 --> 01:39:01.680 and yeah, I did drop these into the chat room already, 1810 01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:03.640 and I think I could just go with the headline 1811 01:39:03.680 --> 01:39:05.760 on the one story and leave it at that, although 1812 01:39:05.840 --> 01:39:09.119 there is video apparently connected to this. And this is 1813 01:39:09.159 --> 01:39:13.159 from the Daily Mail, you know the Daily Mail paper 1814 01:39:13.239 --> 01:39:17.399 there in the UK, And this was published on August sixteenth, okay, 1815 01:39:17.960 --> 01:39:21.840 and here's the headline. Russian tourist who tried to rape 1816 01:39:21.880 --> 01:39:24.920 a cow is gored by the animal and has to 1817 01:39:25.000 --> 01:39:30.359 be rescued by stunned tie police. So this is in Thailand, 1818 01:39:30.920 --> 01:39:33.640 and yeah, the police had to come and rescue him 1819 01:39:34.199 --> 01:39:38.239 from the angry cow. Apparently he had the idea to 1820 01:39:38.319 --> 01:39:41.479 go violate a bull and then he saw the cow 1821 01:39:41.600 --> 01:39:43.840 and thought better of messing with the bull and decided 1822 01:39:43.840 --> 01:39:49.840 to go after the cow, and the cow took vengeance 1823 01:39:49.960 --> 01:39:53.079 upon him and was really beating him up pretty good. 1824 01:39:53.600 --> 01:39:56.000 And if you see the pictures of this, it's pretty outrageous. 1825 01:39:58.000 --> 01:39:59.560 I don't even know what to say to that story. 1826 01:39:59.640 --> 01:40:01.520 B what do you have any comment? 1827 01:40:04.239 --> 01:40:08.039 You know, the way it was described. I noticed this 1828 01:40:08.279 --> 01:40:11.319 was a Daily Mail story. The way they describe it. 1829 01:40:11.600 --> 01:40:15.840 She was performing a sex act. Now, what can you 1830 01:40:15.920 --> 01:40:16.680 do with a trout? 1831 01:40:18.399 --> 01:40:19.800 Oh no, that's a different story. 1832 01:40:20.960 --> 01:40:22.439 Oh you doing this the cow one? 1833 01:40:22.680 --> 01:40:25.680 I was doing the cow one? Yeah, no, the other? Okay, cow? 1834 01:40:26.479 --> 01:40:28.720 You know, what do you look for in a cow? 1835 01:40:29.560 --> 01:40:31.159 If you're going I don't know. 1836 01:40:31.520 --> 01:40:35.760 Seriously, if you're gonna you know, if you're gonna woo 1837 01:40:35.840 --> 01:40:37.680 a cow, what do you look for? 1838 01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:38.800 Is it the eyes? 1839 01:40:39.239 --> 01:40:42.600 I mean, are you a are you a butt man 1840 01:40:42.760 --> 01:40:44.560 or a leg man? I mean, what's the deal? 1841 01:40:44.960 --> 01:40:48.520 Or is it the utter being that you know? Despite 1842 01:40:48.600 --> 01:40:51.000 the fact that some people would say that maybe I 1843 01:40:51.159 --> 01:40:54.119 was involved with somebody who could be described as a cow, 1844 01:40:54.600 --> 01:40:56.239 I have never been with a cow, so I do 1845 01:40:56.399 --> 01:41:01.600 not know. Sorry, go ahead, yeah, this was a pool. Well, no, see, 1846 01:41:01.640 --> 01:41:03.680 that's the weird thing. He went after a bull to 1847 01:41:03.800 --> 01:41:08.119 start with, but the cow gored him to see that. 1848 01:41:08.319 --> 01:41:10.159 That's the other weird part of the story is that 1849 01:41:10.279 --> 01:41:11.600 he was going to go after a bullet and he 1850 01:41:11.680 --> 01:41:14.359 saw the cow there too, and went over to the 1851 01:41:14.439 --> 01:41:16.159 cow and decided to try that instead. 1852 01:41:17.920 --> 01:41:22.239 Uh the you know, the guy could have been messing 1853 01:41:22.319 --> 01:41:25.039 with the cow's man there well, and the cow. 1854 01:41:25.000 --> 01:41:26.960 Nailed him with those little you know, those little buds 1855 01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:29.239 they get on their head, like, was really getting them 1856 01:41:29.279 --> 01:41:32.920 bad and battering him pretty bad. Like like it says 1857 01:41:33.000 --> 01:41:35.800 the police actually had to save him from the cow. 1858 01:41:37.800 --> 01:41:41.319 I mean, you know, she definitely was definitely saying no 1859 01:41:41.479 --> 01:41:42.760 means no. You know what I'm saying. 1860 01:41:44.479 --> 01:41:47.039 You know, it's weird. I guess he picked well. And 1861 01:41:47.159 --> 01:41:49.800 the picture he says here is said to have stripped off. 1862 01:41:49.760 --> 01:41:52.760 And sidled over to a male bull before turning his 1863 01:41:52.880 --> 01:41:55.880 attention to a female tied to a wooden fence. 1864 01:41:55.920 --> 01:41:58.199 Well, that's what I'm saying. He started with the bull 1865 01:41:58.399 --> 01:42:00.199 and then went over and said, oh no, wait, there's 1866 01:42:00.199 --> 01:42:04.119 a cow here that's better. Well, that's what he did. 1867 01:42:06.640 --> 01:42:09.000 I'll tell you what. It takes all times to make 1868 01:42:09.079 --> 01:42:09.640 this world go. 1869 01:42:10.159 --> 01:42:12.720 I have no explanations for it. I'm just telling you 1870 01:42:12.800 --> 01:42:16.399 what the story said. I mean, you know, what can 1871 01:42:16.479 --> 01:42:20.439 I do? And this was in Thailand, which is probably 1872 01:42:20.560 --> 01:42:23.239 really weird. I mean, look, they have harsher laws there 1873 01:42:23.520 --> 01:42:26.800 right in a lot of cases. I'm thinking they might 1874 01:42:26.840 --> 01:42:29.760 be rougher on him than say, if this happened in 1875 01:42:29.960 --> 01:42:34.960 you know, dairy country here. Anyway, the other weird story, 1876 01:42:35.079 --> 01:42:37.039 well we'll just jump to the other headline and see 1877 01:42:37.079 --> 01:42:41.159 what you make of this. Anybody listening to a woman? Okay? 1878 01:42:41.239 --> 01:42:43.600 And this again was published this month. These are not 1879 01:42:43.720 --> 01:42:48.279 old stories. Nineteenth of August. Okay. A woman who was 1880 01:42:48.359 --> 01:42:51.840 allegedly filmed performing a sex act with a live brown 1881 01:42:52.000 --> 01:43:00.880 trout on a boat faces court. Okay, so Catherine June 1882 01:43:00.960 --> 01:43:03.279 Lee fifty eight. I'm sure she's very proud that they 1883 01:43:03.359 --> 01:43:07.560 published her middle name too. From Hobart suburbs of Howden, 1884 01:43:07.720 --> 01:43:12.039 I guess faces three charges in relation to bestiality material 1885 01:43:12.560 --> 01:43:16.760 allegedly produced between February twenty two, twenty twenty two, and 1886 01:43:16.960 --> 01:43:21.560 January of twenty twenty three. So this material was produced 1887 01:43:21.600 --> 01:43:24.600 over an eleven month time period, just to be clear. 1888 01:43:25.640 --> 01:43:28.439 And she is charged with one count of possession of 1889 01:43:28.479 --> 01:43:31.520 a bality product and two counts of making a reproducing 1890 01:43:31.600 --> 01:43:35.399 a bestiality product. Dressed in a black suit, Lee appeared 1891 01:43:35.439 --> 01:43:40.720 in Hobart Magistrate's Court on Monday seeking for an adjournment 1892 01:43:40.960 --> 01:43:46.479 without plea. The magistrate Grantedly an adjournment until October. The 1893 01:43:46.600 --> 01:43:52.000 Mercury Excuse Me reported police alleged the disturbing film showed 1894 01:43:52.079 --> 01:43:57.439 Lee lying on a boat at sea somewhere near Tasmania's 1895 01:43:57.840 --> 01:44:02.119 south as her male co accused used a live brown 1896 01:44:02.239 --> 01:44:08.079 trout to perform a sex act on her. So there's 1897 01:44:08.159 --> 01:44:13.520 your answer with how that was done, you know, without 1898 01:44:13.600 --> 01:44:20.760 getting graphic. B Pete, are you there? Did I lose 1899 01:44:20.840 --> 01:44:25.680 you again? Oh boy? All right, Well, something strange is 1900 01:44:25.760 --> 01:44:28.479 going on here. Let me see if I can bring 1901 01:44:28.680 --> 01:44:31.039 back around. Let's see if we can get Danny back on, 1902 01:44:31.560 --> 01:44:33.479 see if it's a problem with B Pete. Danny, can 1903 01:44:33.520 --> 01:44:40.479 you hear me? M all right? I don't know if 1904 01:44:40.479 --> 01:44:42.560 you guys are hearing me live. I don't know what's 1905 01:44:42.640 --> 01:44:45.199 going on, but apparently I have a technical issue here 1906 01:44:46.159 --> 01:44:48.760 and I want to bring everybody back around on the call. 1907 01:44:49.359 --> 01:44:51.560 And I think I'm still broadcasting, so I might have 1908 01:44:51.640 --> 01:44:54.520 to once again, drop out of the Skype call and 1909 01:44:55.199 --> 01:44:59.479 try and bring this back around and connect to broadcast. 1910 01:45:00.119 --> 01:45:15.439 Know what's going on though, folks, so uhhh. 1911 01:45:31.279 --> 01:45:32.439 Going to Chuck O'Kelley. 1912 01:45:40.640 --> 01:45:43.000 You're shock Shelley. You know what's shark Shelley. 1913 01:45:43.199 --> 01:45:45.600 You are about doing a market upon the great you say, 1914 01:45:46.199 --> 01:45:48.760 the eyes of the world out upon you. 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It's so. 1935 01:48:19.479 --> 01:48:19.760 Ready. 1936 01:48:25.600 --> 01:48:28.039 Now, this is the first time this has happened ever. 1937 01:48:28.359 --> 01:48:30.840 This weird kind of glitch that's occurring here with my 1938 01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:34.319 software that's just locking up and knocking out the phone calls, 1939 01:48:34.680 --> 01:48:37.640 and I have to keep reconnecting myself. So b Pete, 1940 01:48:37.640 --> 01:48:40.760 you're with me, right, Yeah, I'm all right. So we're 1941 01:48:40.800 --> 01:48:43.079 going to try and finish it out with this and uh, 1942 01:48:43.600 --> 01:48:47.199 well we'll continue on a little past ten pm. But 1943 01:48:47.520 --> 01:48:49.720 I want to thank Gail Nick Jackson for joining us, 1944 01:48:50.279 --> 01:48:54.079 and also Danny and Jimmy James. Danny is still hanging 1945 01:48:54.119 --> 01:48:55.640 on the line, so I'm going to bring him back 1946 01:48:55.680 --> 01:48:58.039 in in a moment. But I was trying to cover 1947 01:48:58.199 --> 01:49:01.479 this this other news story here, and I'm not gonna 1948 01:49:01.479 --> 01:49:03.479 try it again because apparently every time we go into 1949 01:49:03.520 --> 01:49:07.279 this naked news stuff, it's crazy, uh, and something goes wrong. 1950 01:49:07.920 --> 01:49:11.119 But you have an update actually on our original naked 1951 01:49:11.199 --> 01:49:14.000 news guy, So uh, why don't you give that out 1952 01:49:14.119 --> 01:49:16.520 before we go back to Danny and see how this goes. 1953 01:49:16.840 --> 01:49:18.680 You can still join us, by the way, three one 1954 01:49:18.840 --> 01:49:21.800 nine five two seven five zero one six. The phone 1955 01:49:21.840 --> 01:49:24.640 lines have not gone down, just my connection to them 1956 01:49:24.680 --> 01:49:27.359 is has crapped out. Uh and my connection to be 1957 01:49:27.439 --> 01:49:31.119 Pete simultaneously somehow, uh and I wound up on air 1958 01:49:31.199 --> 01:49:34.000 with nothing, so I had to go to break anyway, 1959 01:49:34.600 --> 01:49:37.079 We're back. You have an update. I still got Danny 1960 01:49:37.119 --> 01:49:39.960 on the line three one nine five two seven five 1961 01:49:40.079 --> 01:49:43.800 zero one six. Still you can call in, so be Pete. 1962 01:49:44.800 --> 01:49:44.920 Uh. 1963 01:49:45.119 --> 01:49:48.880 The update on the original naked news guy, go ahead, Yeah, 1964 01:49:49.039 --> 01:49:50.079 James Cody Picard. 1965 01:49:50.159 --> 01:49:53.640 I did a search while we were off air before 1966 01:49:54.239 --> 01:49:57.319 to see his core calendar and he wasn't listed. 1967 01:49:57.439 --> 01:50:01.960 So I did a quick search and uh hold ABC thirteen. 1968 01:50:01.720 --> 01:50:05.079 News in Asheville, says an Ashville man have broken the 1969 01:50:05.159 --> 01:50:07.640 homes in twenty twenty one while naked will spend at 1970 01:50:07.720 --> 01:50:10.680 least seven years in prison after pleading guilty to several 1971 01:50:10.760 --> 01:50:14.199 felony charges on Wednesday in Buncom County Superior Court. 1972 01:50:15.039 --> 01:50:16.279 Apparently I love that. 1973 01:50:17.319 --> 01:50:20.199 James Cody McCard, thirty eight, was sentenced by Buncome County 1974 01:50:20.319 --> 01:50:23.279 Superior Court Judge Steve Warren to serve a minimum active 1975 01:50:23.359 --> 01:50:26.359 term of eighty eight months, which is seven year four 1976 01:50:26.439 --> 01:50:28.960 months and a maximum term of one hundred and eighteen months, 1977 01:50:29.520 --> 01:50:30.800 which is nearly ten years. 1978 01:50:31.039 --> 01:50:31.279 Wow. 1979 01:50:31.359 --> 01:50:33.760 In the North Caroline Department of Adult Correction in Raleigh, 1980 01:50:33.800 --> 01:50:36.960 according to a news release from Buncomee County District Attorney 1981 01:50:37.000 --> 01:50:41.399 Todd Williams. And they've got a quick little ring video 1982 01:50:41.520 --> 01:50:46.840 that shows how he was caught. He pled guilty to felony, 1983 01:50:46.920 --> 01:50:50.880 breaking and entering felony, first degree burglary, felony, attempted first 1984 01:50:50.960 --> 01:50:53.800 degree burglary, l ony, fled to a loot to rest 1985 01:50:53.880 --> 01:50:57.439 with the motor vehicle, felony, larceny, felony, breaking and entering 1986 01:50:57.520 --> 01:51:01.560 of a motor vehicle, felony, possession of a stolen vehicle, misdemeanor, 1987 01:51:01.640 --> 01:51:05.920 simple assault, felling, the attempted common law robbery, fell in 1988 01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:09.640 your possession of a stolen motor vehicle, felling, the assault 1989 01:51:09.680 --> 01:51:12.680 with a deadly weapon on a government official, and other charges. 1990 01:51:13.039 --> 01:51:17.520 Wow. Two or three mouthfuls of charges there. 1991 01:51:18.600 --> 01:51:21.880 Oh yeah, that's the total I got was like forty 1992 01:51:21.960 --> 01:51:26.079 two charges listed on the court calendar, So a lot 1993 01:51:26.199 --> 01:51:29.479 of those got tossed just to get him to plead guilty. 1994 01:51:30.079 --> 01:51:32.920 I think they were waiting for him to finally agree 1995 01:51:33.039 --> 01:51:36.640 to a plea agreement. And that's what took so long, 1996 01:51:36.680 --> 01:51:39.680 because he's been in jail since this happened in twenty 1997 01:51:39.760 --> 01:51:44.000 twenty one, and so they caught him in twenty twenty two. 1998 01:51:45.119 --> 01:51:49.199 So he's had seven hundred days of pre trial incarceration 1999 01:51:49.319 --> 01:51:51.079 which will go towards a sentence. 2000 01:51:50.720 --> 01:51:53.399 But he's going to be in a horse gown for 2001 01:51:53.439 --> 01:51:53.800 a while. 2002 01:51:54.560 --> 01:51:58.000 Yeah, so two years he's already sat. So if he 2003 01:51:58.079 --> 01:52:04.520 does seven, he's got five more to go. Yikes. I mean, 2004 01:52:04.800 --> 01:52:08.479 what a crazy story that guy was, and all these 2005 01:52:08.520 --> 01:52:11.079 things are crazy stories. Anyhow, I tried to get through 2006 01:52:11.159 --> 01:52:13.960 the woman with the fish. I answered your question. I 2007 01:52:13.960 --> 01:52:17.720 don't know if you heard it. Did you hear that part? Well, 2008 01:52:18.279 --> 01:52:20.920 it turns out that she has a co conspirator that 2009 01:52:21.079 --> 01:52:24.399 was a male that used the fish to perform the 2010 01:52:24.560 --> 01:52:29.319 act upon her, and they they recorded it, and we're 2011 01:52:29.600 --> 01:52:33.560 you know, in possession of said video. So there's the 2012 01:52:33.680 --> 01:52:36.640 crime and there it is. And it was somewhere near 2013 01:52:36.720 --> 01:52:40.359 the south part of Tasmania that this occurred and that's 2014 01:52:40.800 --> 01:52:42.800 what the deal is on that. So that's where the 2015 01:52:43.199 --> 01:52:45.680 you know, sex act with the trout comes in. 2016 01:52:45.920 --> 01:52:49.560 Is that a normal thing down under I cannot. 2017 01:52:49.159 --> 01:52:51.439 Speak to that. I know we have a couple of 2018 01:52:51.520 --> 01:52:54.439 Australian listeners. I don't know if they're listening tonight, but 2019 01:52:55.319 --> 01:52:58.000 I don't think that in that area of the world 2020 01:52:58.079 --> 01:53:01.239 this is normal, or any area a planet Earth, probably, 2021 01:53:02.159 --> 01:53:04.199 but who knows what people get up to anymore, Man, 2022 01:53:04.239 --> 01:53:07.720 I don't know what to say. I mean again, so 2023 01:53:09.600 --> 01:53:13.840 there's your bizarre triple header of naked news. Actually quadruple 2024 01:53:14.239 --> 01:53:16.720 oh no, triple header. Yeah, triple header of naked news 2025 01:53:16.880 --> 01:53:21.479 and an update on the originator, the first one right, 2026 01:53:21.640 --> 01:53:24.079 the Vanguard of Naked News BPE. 2027 01:53:25.239 --> 01:53:27.319 So I guess I ought have said the guy a letter, 2028 01:53:27.880 --> 01:53:30.880 let him know he's famous, let him know. 2029 01:53:30.960 --> 01:53:34.600 On several occasions during our callon show, we have gone 2030 01:53:34.680 --> 01:53:36.960 back and look to see if you've been charged or whatever, 2031 01:53:37.079 --> 01:53:39.439 and we studied your case you started. 2032 01:53:40.439 --> 01:53:41.279 I need to ask him. 2033 01:53:41.279 --> 01:53:43.159 I'll just email him and ask him. Can I ask 2034 01:53:43.239 --> 01:53:45.600 a question, how did you get naked in the first place? 2035 01:53:45.640 --> 01:53:48.479 It was a result of circumstances or did you feel 2036 01:53:48.560 --> 01:53:52.079 like that would be well, that's the break into the 2037 01:53:52.159 --> 01:53:53.000 house is easier. 2038 01:53:53.199 --> 01:53:55.840 You could finally just ask the go straight to the 2039 01:53:55.960 --> 01:53:59.279 source and say, look, man, we have one question. We've 2040 01:53:59.319 --> 01:54:01.760 been talking about you for almost two years on a 2041 01:54:01.880 --> 01:54:05.279 podcast off and on, and we have a question that's 2042 01:54:05.399 --> 01:54:08.640 just nagging at us this whole time. How is it 2043 01:54:08.840 --> 01:54:11.600 that you came to be naked in the first place? 2044 01:54:11.960 --> 01:54:13.920 Because nobody's reporting that part. 2045 01:54:14.079 --> 01:54:16.840 Because I wonder if they let you use skype in prison. 2046 01:54:17.560 --> 01:54:18.800 We got to get this guy on the show. 2047 01:54:18.960 --> 01:54:20.760 Try and get him on the show. I don't know 2048 01:54:20.800 --> 01:54:22.279 if we'll be able to get him on a Friday 2049 01:54:22.399 --> 01:54:24.600 night though. In prison. I mean that that's a lot. 2050 01:54:24.880 --> 01:54:27.319 It's not like he's got a lot to do. Well, no, 2051 01:54:27.479 --> 01:54:28.640 but I don't got nowhere to go. 2052 01:54:29.079 --> 01:54:30.680 Yeah, but I don't know if they'll allow him out 2053 01:54:30.680 --> 01:54:32.840 at eight o'clock at night to you know, come on 2054 01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:34.880 and be on a Skype call or a phone call 2055 01:54:34.920 --> 01:54:38.199 at eight o'clock at night. I don't know what most prisons. 2056 01:54:37.800 --> 01:54:40.800 I don't know us a computer and you know, maybe 2057 01:54:40.840 --> 01:54:43.039 he can skype us from his cell. I'll have to 2058 01:54:43.159 --> 01:54:43.760 check into this. 2059 01:54:44.039 --> 01:54:45.439 I'll do some checking. 2060 01:54:45.960 --> 01:54:48.319 Well, there you have it. I mean, if you go 2061 01:54:48.520 --> 01:54:50.760 after it, you get him on the show, that would 2062 01:54:50.800 --> 01:54:54.439 definitely be a worthy guest for a Friday night. Is 2063 01:54:54.640 --> 01:54:56.960 the originator of Naked News the first guy we ever 2064 01:54:57.119 --> 01:55:00.359 covered here. He is and he can tell the entire 2065 01:55:00.439 --> 01:55:05.279 audience and oh, I have a confirmation from an Australian listener, 2066 01:55:05.359 --> 01:55:08.399 so he's in the same area of the world as 2067 01:55:08.840 --> 01:55:13.079 as the fish lady here. And his quote exactly his 2068 01:55:13.199 --> 01:55:18.439 first time I've heard of anyone violating a trout, TAZZI 2069 01:55:18.680 --> 01:55:22.359 is weird. Didn't think it was that weird. That's exactly 2070 01:55:22.479 --> 01:55:26.560 what he said. Thank you, Ray from down Under. Yeah, 2071 01:55:26.880 --> 01:55:31.720 so how's that? Never heard of that before? Tasmania is weird. 2072 01:55:32.439 --> 01:55:35.560 But he didn't think it was that weird, So thank you. 2073 01:55:35.840 --> 01:55:39.239 Well, I guess we could pose that question to Jimmy 2074 01:55:39.720 --> 01:55:41.079 and is Danny still with us? 2075 01:55:41.239 --> 01:55:43.479 Not only Danny is still with us. We lost Gail 2076 01:55:43.520 --> 01:55:45.840 and we lost Jimmy in the in the problems with 2077 01:55:45.960 --> 01:55:48.439 the phones, and it really wasn't a problem with the phones. 2078 01:55:48.479 --> 01:55:51.720 The phone stayed connected. But I think suddenly they didn't 2079 01:55:51.760 --> 01:55:55.520 hear me, so they probably hung up, you know, So 2080 01:55:55.880 --> 01:55:56.520 sorry guys. 2081 01:55:57.359 --> 01:55:59.439 Well, I mean that's question we posed to Danny. Was 2082 01:55:59.439 --> 01:56:02.600 the weirdest thing he's ever seen or done with a trout? 2083 01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:05.880 Okay? Or maybe does he think this is normal somewhere 2084 01:56:05.920 --> 01:56:08.039 in the world. We could ask him that. I mean, 2085 01:56:08.239 --> 01:56:10.880 I know he was talking about something that was, you know, 2086 01:56:11.039 --> 01:56:14.800 deep and interesting and meaningful to him earlier. But yeah, 2087 01:56:14.880 --> 01:56:20.319 let's ask him the fish question first. So Danny about 2088 01:56:20.399 --> 01:56:25.319 the trout? What do you what are your thoughts any 2089 01:56:25.399 --> 01:56:26.239 thoughts on this stuff? 2090 01:56:27.239 --> 01:56:31.119 Here's my thoughts. Please don't ruin my memories of fishing 2091 01:56:31.239 --> 01:56:40.680 with my grandfather in Washington. Please, features of my brother 2092 01:56:40.800 --> 01:56:43.560 and I child were counting the fish and there's like 2093 01:56:43.760 --> 01:56:47.720 twenty trout. They're beautiful, but no way did anybody want 2094 01:56:47.760 --> 01:56:49.800 to violate? And I wanted my grandmother to cook them. 2095 01:56:49.800 --> 01:56:50.680 They were delicious. 2096 01:56:52.159 --> 01:56:54.000 Don't ruin my memories of trout. 2097 01:56:55.159 --> 01:57:01.079 Oh yeah, I have great memories as the child my grandfather, 2098 01:57:01.319 --> 01:57:03.720 my father and my old wolf and want the state 2099 01:57:03.800 --> 01:57:06.079 to wash. And there was I mean, he was just 2100 01:57:06.319 --> 01:57:09.000 he was just it was like, oh it was it 2101 01:57:09.079 --> 01:57:11.840 was good, good times. But the only thing I can 2102 01:57:11.920 --> 01:57:14.680 think of, like strange? Is this anything? Remember the show 2103 01:57:14.920 --> 01:57:19.359 Fridays they had these they were called they called themselves Transphibians. 2104 01:57:19.880 --> 01:57:23.800 I know nothing, No, I don't a show called Fridays. 2105 01:57:23.840 --> 01:57:24.199 What is that? 2106 01:57:26.039 --> 01:57:26.279 It was? 2107 01:57:26.439 --> 01:57:28.680 It was kind of a spin up on Saturday Live. 2108 01:57:28.720 --> 01:57:32.159 It was called Friday, and they remember that these guys 2109 01:57:32.239 --> 01:57:35.800 were yeah, they were they were humans. They were fish 2110 01:57:35.960 --> 01:57:38.640 trapped in a human body. And they went to like 2111 01:57:38.760 --> 01:57:41.960 a butcher store and they're like flopping on the butcher's table. 2112 01:57:42.760 --> 01:57:45.279 There's this transphibian there before they cut up a fish, 2113 01:57:45.439 --> 01:57:52.359 is like take me instead. I just remember that. Yeah, 2114 01:57:52.359 --> 01:57:53.520 they're transphibians. 2115 01:57:54.039 --> 01:58:02.279 So they were they were trans species. Uh yeah, ok, yeah, wow, yeah. 2116 01:58:02.720 --> 01:58:03.880 Yeah, that's that's all there. 2117 01:58:04.399 --> 01:58:07.199 Yeah, but oh that's crazy. 2118 01:58:07.279 --> 01:58:08.720 Yeah, if you can get if you did get the 2119 01:58:08.840 --> 01:58:11.439 naked guy on there on on Skype or or we 2120 01:58:11.520 --> 01:58:14.399 could start like a like a ten power or something, 2121 01:58:14.520 --> 01:58:16.920 you know, communicating that would that would probably have just 2122 01:58:17.000 --> 01:58:17.720 an entertainment. 2123 01:58:17.880 --> 01:58:21.439 Well, the original naked news guy. Yeah, the original naked 2124 01:58:21.479 --> 01:58:23.319 news guy. That would be worth it. Even if we 2125 01:58:23.399 --> 01:58:25.479 got to like buy him Skype credit or something to 2126 01:58:25.520 --> 01:58:28.640 be able to call us from jail, right, that that 2127 01:58:28.680 --> 01:58:29.399 would be worth it. 2128 01:58:30.880 --> 01:58:35.319 Uh, And Aaron to make a tied iye pixelated shirt 2129 01:58:35.399 --> 01:58:37.439 of him, yeah, something like that. 2130 01:58:38.079 --> 01:58:42.319 Well it's still the still off that video of him 2131 01:58:42.399 --> 01:58:44.680 and naked in the ring camera. 2132 01:58:49.560 --> 01:58:51.199 So you're telling me we need to make a naked 2133 01:58:51.239 --> 01:58:54.079 news T shirt? Is that what you're telling me, uh, 2134 01:58:54.600 --> 01:58:55.279 nothing like that. 2135 01:58:55.960 --> 01:58:58.479 Might might be, might might want it to be tempted 2136 01:58:58.520 --> 01:59:00.880 with the idea that I don't want to ruin my 2137 01:59:01.039 --> 01:59:05.159 memories of my fishing, my favorite fishing moments. 2138 01:59:04.760 --> 01:59:08.600 As a child, don't ruin my positive trout memories. I'm sorry. 2139 01:59:09.479 --> 01:59:15.600 Yeah, I have nothing but positive out But speaking of 2140 01:59:16.000 --> 01:59:20.479 Washington and labor is you know, like I said, I 2141 01:59:20.600 --> 01:59:23.520 started working young, but I spent when I was the 2142 01:59:23.640 --> 01:59:28.279 summer when I was fifteen seventeen years of age, my 2143 01:59:28.520 --> 01:59:31.720 uncle and grandparents had apple orchards in the state of Washington, 2144 01:59:32.359 --> 01:59:37.119 so I know what farm labor is. I did crooning, picking, irrigating, 2145 01:59:37.640 --> 01:59:40.840 and matfect When I was seventeen, my uncle bought a restaurant, 2146 01:59:41.640 --> 01:59:45.199 so I ran the whole crew of the migrant laborers. 2147 01:59:45.279 --> 01:59:46.800 And like I said, I grew up in a farming 2148 01:59:46.840 --> 01:59:49.039 community in California, so I already spoke a little bit 2149 01:59:49.079 --> 01:59:50.640 of Spanish. By the end of the summer, I was 2150 01:59:50.720 --> 01:59:54.279 quite blowing in Spanish. But you know, the interesting thing 2151 01:59:54.399 --> 01:59:58.000 this was the seventies. You know, I don't know what 2152 01:59:58.119 --> 02:00:02.439 our immigration laws were, but they just everybody knew that 2153 02:00:02.560 --> 02:00:04.479 they were just going to These workers were just going 2154 02:00:04.560 --> 02:00:07.520 to show up and washing it because they've worked. They'd 2155 02:00:07.560 --> 02:00:11.439 worked all through the harvest and through food the spring, 2156 02:00:11.560 --> 02:00:14.119 to the to the fall, and then go back to Mexico. 2157 02:00:14.720 --> 02:00:17.359 And I remember there from Girl Mexico, and that was 2158 02:00:17.520 --> 02:00:22.520 just common. Nobody questioned it. And then in like in California, 2159 02:00:22.560 --> 02:00:26.199 they had labor contractors. They would be in buses, and 2160 02:00:26.319 --> 02:00:28.560 I can remember there was a big commotion in the 2161 02:00:28.600 --> 02:00:31.800 little town because there was a few rednecks that were 2162 02:00:31.920 --> 02:00:34.279 kind of upset, like hey, they're looking at a women 2163 02:00:34.439 --> 02:00:36.239 or something. They would come to these buses in and 2164 02:00:36.319 --> 02:00:38.840 be like two hundred of them, and you know, the 2165 02:00:38.960 --> 02:00:41.840 grocery store owner was like, hey, they they do a 2166 02:00:41.880 --> 02:00:43.920 lot of business, you know, and they we had never 2167 02:00:43.960 --> 02:00:47.760 had a problem with this, just your your stereotype, but 2168 02:00:48.239 --> 02:00:51.319 kind of transition, I mean with this here is as 2169 02:00:51.359 --> 02:00:55.319 a perception as a reality. About two days ago, all 2170 02:00:55.399 --> 02:00:58.279 over here in California news, there's a there's a bill 2171 02:00:58.359 --> 02:01:02.560 it's as in the Assembly called AB eighteen forty, and 2172 02:01:02.760 --> 02:01:07.760 it's friends and Relatives. They're going the liberal Democrats are 2173 02:01:07.880 --> 02:01:11.640 ruining the United States because they're they're providing home loans 2174 02:01:11.720 --> 02:01:17.680 for illegal immigrants. Okay, so I went and actually read 2175 02:01:17.720 --> 02:01:21.319 the bill. And I read the bill and it has 2176 02:01:21.560 --> 02:01:26.119 one versus. It says those it's provided low to middle 2177 02:01:26.399 --> 02:01:31.720 income loans for the state of California because housing's expensive here, 2178 02:01:32.760 --> 02:01:36.680 and as it matters, they qualify, and it says it's 2179 02:01:36.880 --> 02:01:42.359 not disqualifying on immigrant status. So what I'm seeing is 2180 02:01:42.800 --> 02:01:45.840 what everybody's posted, these pictures of these long lines of 2181 02:01:45.920 --> 02:01:49.079 immigrants for the prize from the Sackages, and they're just 2182 02:01:49.159 --> 02:01:55.039 saying these crazy you know, politicians are providing these loans 2183 02:01:55.079 --> 02:01:58.199 to illegal immigrants, and what they're going to do is 2184 02:01:58.319 --> 02:02:04.560 sabotized loans for people here, whether they're you know, from 2185 02:02:04.560 --> 02:02:07.479 the majority, it's going to be legal citizens. 2186 02:02:08.239 --> 02:02:08.760 And I need it. 2187 02:02:09.880 --> 02:02:15.239 The twistem and the half truths. It just drives me crazy. 2188 02:02:15.279 --> 02:02:18.199 And I know we're in political silly season, but it's starting, 2189 02:02:18.439 --> 02:02:19.239 you know here. 2190 02:02:20.000 --> 02:02:23.880 Well, you know, in order to get a housing loan, uh, 2191 02:02:24.239 --> 02:02:26.399 you know, any kind of housing loan, don't you need 2192 02:02:26.720 --> 02:02:31.920 ID and a Social Security number and proof of income. 2193 02:02:32.680 --> 02:02:37.439 I mean, so you know, if you're an illegal immigrant, 2194 02:02:37.479 --> 02:02:39.760 it's not like you're going to show up, no paperwork, nothing, 2195 02:02:39.840 --> 02:02:42.199 you know, here, I am magically, I'm an illegal immigrant. 2196 02:02:42.359 --> 02:02:44.560 Give me a loan, because you're going to need some 2197 02:02:44.760 --> 02:02:46.520 kind of paperwork. I mean, the bank is not going 2198 02:02:46.600 --> 02:02:49.079 to give a housing loan to somebody without some of 2199 02:02:49.159 --> 02:02:51.479 this stuff. So they're going to have to have some 2200 02:02:51.680 --> 02:02:55.079 of the paperwork done somehow. Even if their immigration status, 2201 02:02:55.199 --> 02:02:57.800 like they have a green card, then that means technically 2202 02:02:57.880 --> 02:02:59.560 they have a Social Security number, but they're not an 2203 02:02:59.560 --> 02:03:03.840 Americans citizen, you know what I mean, like stuff like that. 2204 02:03:05.119 --> 02:03:07.079 But you know, but people take it as no, they're 2205 02:03:07.119 --> 02:03:12.319 offering no and low cost loans to immigrants. Okay, they're 2206 02:03:12.399 --> 02:03:16.079 just not disqualified. Okay, Well, I don't know what can 2207 02:03:16.159 --> 02:03:16.800 you do about that? 2208 02:03:17.039 --> 02:03:22.600 You know, well, I've seen it. I've seen news stories 2209 02:03:22.680 --> 02:03:25.039 coming from both sides of it. One of them pretty 2210 02:03:25.079 --> 02:03:28.279 much is just straight up they're passing a bill that 2211 02:03:28.880 --> 02:03:34.159 may allow some illegal immigrants to apply for these loans. 2212 02:03:35.359 --> 02:03:39.760 And I've heard other stories saying that it excludes legal 2213 02:03:40.079 --> 02:03:45.319 residents and it's only for illegal residents, and you know 2214 02:03:45.520 --> 02:03:51.399 it's Most states have housing loan programs in place, and 2215 02:03:51.560 --> 02:03:53.439 part of that is tough what the CA federal government 2216 02:03:53.520 --> 02:03:56.439 is throwing to the states, and I guess it's up 2217 02:03:56.479 --> 02:03:57.920 to the state to set up how they're going. 2218 02:03:57.920 --> 02:03:59.720 To use the funds, right. You know. 2219 02:04:00.439 --> 02:04:04.159 My only question is this, when you know, the only 2220 02:04:04.239 --> 02:04:07.920 problem I foresee is just the greed in the market, 2221 02:04:08.520 --> 02:04:10.680 and when they know that this money is out there 2222 02:04:10.760 --> 02:04:14.439 for these individuals. One of them was like a twenty 2223 02:04:14.520 --> 02:04:16.840 thousand dollars loan that they could use as a bound 2224 02:04:16.880 --> 02:04:18.159 payment on housing. 2225 02:04:17.880 --> 02:04:18.560 And stuff like that. 2226 02:04:19.279 --> 02:04:21.920 The problem is the market knows that that money's out there, 2227 02:04:22.119 --> 02:04:23.600 prices go up accordingly. 2228 02:04:23.720 --> 02:04:27.600 It's just like when the federal government took over student loans. 2229 02:04:28.439 --> 02:04:30.199 The cost of college has not gone down. 2230 02:04:30.319 --> 02:04:34.600 Now that the government is handling the loan process, and 2231 02:04:35.039 --> 02:04:37.279 it just keeps getting more expensive and more expensive and 2232 02:04:37.359 --> 02:04:41.159 more expensive. No college has got their costs considerably in 2233 02:04:41.600 --> 02:04:44.960 what forty years, and now that the government's controlling the 2234 02:04:45.039 --> 02:04:48.199 handing out of the student loans, Oh well, we'll just 2235 02:04:48.239 --> 02:04:52.439 figure that into our you know, our annual percentage increase 2236 02:04:52.520 --> 02:04:53.319 year to year to year. 2237 02:04:54.800 --> 02:04:56.920 A lot of colleges are getting up. We're close to 2238 02:04:56.960 --> 02:05:00.560 one hundred thousand dollars a year for two mesters and 2239 02:05:00.640 --> 02:05:02.800 room and board. It was getting expensive. 2240 02:05:02.960 --> 02:05:03.119 You know. 2241 02:05:03.760 --> 02:05:05.439 That's one of the bad things that I see about 2242 02:05:05.520 --> 02:05:08.279 is that it could inflate the market and just added 2243 02:05:08.359 --> 02:05:11.399 cost to everybody involved because the government's throwing money in 2244 02:05:11.479 --> 02:05:11.760 the game. 2245 02:05:12.079 --> 02:05:14.600 Right, But in the late nineties and early two thousands, 2246 02:05:14.680 --> 02:05:17.159 you know, people didn't complain that much about these like 2247 02:05:17.319 --> 02:05:22.279 no documentation loans that went on, which again led straight. 2248 02:05:22.079 --> 02:05:24.399 To the House of a thousand market in two thousand 2249 02:05:24.439 --> 02:05:24.720 and eight. 2250 02:05:24.920 --> 02:05:25.479 Was these. 2251 02:05:27.239 --> 02:05:32.239 No money down loans, cap balloon payments at the end, 2252 02:05:32.399 --> 02:05:34.880 things like that. It just blew the market up, right, 2253 02:05:35.039 --> 02:05:38.680 But I mean, you can't really blame that, well, you 2254 02:05:38.760 --> 02:05:40.880 can't blame it on government. They were part of the 2255 02:05:40.960 --> 02:05:44.359 ones that were causing the turmoil in the housing market 2256 02:05:44.439 --> 02:05:49.520 through Freddie Mack and Fanny May and not following up 2257 02:05:49.640 --> 02:05:53.680 on actual criteria and giving out loans to anybody. 2258 02:05:53.319 --> 02:05:56.680 Even people that were unemployed could get loans, is what 2259 02:05:56.800 --> 02:05:57.439 amazes me. 2260 02:05:59.039 --> 02:06:01.359 So I don't know, Well, it just seems like it's 2261 02:06:01.399 --> 02:06:03.720 going to inflate the market even worse in California, and 2262 02:06:03.760 --> 02:06:06.640 it's already too expensive in most places for anyone. 2263 02:06:08.520 --> 02:06:10.960 Well again, I mean, look, I always talk about I'm 2264 02:06:11.000 --> 02:06:13.159 homesick for Jersey, but I can't afford to live there. 2265 02:06:13.279 --> 02:06:16.199 It's not even close to within my budget any longer. 2266 02:06:16.399 --> 02:06:20.520 You know, it's just the way it is. I mean, 2267 02:06:20.720 --> 02:06:23.880 you know, and some of this stuff is yeah, caused 2268 02:06:23.920 --> 02:06:26.800 by these conditions. When it's too easy to get a 2269 02:06:26.880 --> 02:06:29.640 place to live and there's too much money that's available 2270 02:06:29.800 --> 02:06:33.359 for loans and stuff like that, Yeah, they will accordingly 2271 02:06:33.760 --> 02:06:36.439 jack up the prices. You know, we can get more 2272 02:06:36.520 --> 02:06:38.800 out of this, Let's get more. I mean, that's what 2273 02:06:38.880 --> 02:06:41.119 the landlords did too. I mean they're saying that they're 2274 02:06:41.119 --> 02:06:43.640 blaming it on this algorithm or whatever, but I mean 2275 02:06:43.720 --> 02:06:46.279 the truth is is that the moment that you know, 2276 02:06:46.439 --> 02:06:50.079 certain people see that they can charge more, they push 2277 02:06:50.159 --> 02:06:53.880 it to the limit that they can get. And when 2278 02:06:53.960 --> 02:06:56.079 they do that, what does it do. It expands it 2279 02:06:56.159 --> 02:06:58.159 And then somebody's got to make an allowance again and 2280 02:06:58.279 --> 02:07:01.119 expands it again. And it can used to cause inflation 2281 02:07:01.279 --> 02:07:03.760 when the value of the thing didn't change, the thing 2282 02:07:03.840 --> 02:07:06.560 itself didn't change. The house might be ten years older now, 2283 02:07:07.000 --> 02:07:08.439 but it's triple the cost it was. 2284 02:07:08.840 --> 02:07:09.000 You know. 2285 02:07:09.399 --> 02:07:13.079 Well, it's like when you lived here, you'd be amazed 2286 02:07:13.119 --> 02:07:15.039 at how much rents have gone up since the time 2287 02:07:15.119 --> 02:07:17.680 you left. Right, It's gotten to the point now there's 2288 02:07:17.680 --> 02:07:19.600 a house down the street from me and this little 2289 02:07:19.680 --> 02:07:22.000 p dunk crossroads I live in. They've listed it for 2290 02:07:22.079 --> 02:07:25.520 four hundred and fifty thousand dollars and it's an old 2291 02:07:27.800 --> 02:07:33.319 late eighteen hundred's constructed house, big, huge, beautiful house, but 2292 02:07:33.399 --> 02:07:35.439 it's got one hundred thousand dollars worth of work that 2293 02:07:35.600 --> 02:07:38.159 needs to be done to it. Right, the market has 2294 02:07:38.279 --> 02:07:42.520 just gone through the roof and nobody's going to pay 2295 02:07:42.560 --> 02:07:44.920 that kind of money for a house located here where 2296 02:07:44.960 --> 02:07:46.720 you don't know if your grocery store is going to 2297 02:07:46.760 --> 02:07:48.000 be in business a month from now. 2298 02:07:48.680 --> 02:07:51.319 I mean, it's just crazy the way these prices and rents. 2299 02:07:51.640 --> 02:07:53.880 I mean, I can see how housing price is going up, 2300 02:07:54.439 --> 02:07:57.840 and that's a that's a condition of the market when 2301 02:07:57.880 --> 02:08:02.319 you've got guys flipping properties and and getting evaluations on 2302 02:08:02.479 --> 02:08:05.960 them and prices going up, and the you know, the 2303 02:08:06.079 --> 02:08:10.680 unintended consequence of that is your local counties. Ah, wait 2304 02:08:10.720 --> 02:08:13.479 a minute, these houses are selling for one hundred thousand 2305 02:08:13.520 --> 02:08:16.760 dollars more than they were two years ago. It's time 2306 02:08:16.840 --> 02:08:20.039 to do a reassessment on everybody's property. Have a friend 2307 02:08:20.079 --> 02:08:22.000 of mine has a little cinder block house that he 2308 02:08:22.119 --> 02:08:25.920 bought thirty years ago and went in and completely remodeled 2309 02:08:25.920 --> 02:08:28.760 it on the inside This was an old cinder block 2310 02:08:28.880 --> 02:08:34.239 mill house with casement windows, no insulation, and he went 2311 02:08:34.319 --> 02:08:38.039 inside completely redid it and made it a nice livable place. 2312 02:08:38.720 --> 02:08:41.960 I think he bought it for twenty two twenty three. 2313 02:08:42.840 --> 02:08:44.359 They just jacked the price up on the. 2314 02:08:44.359 --> 02:08:45.800 Thing, almost one hundred thousand dollars. 2315 02:08:47.399 --> 02:08:51.119 It's just it's crazy what they've done tax value. And 2316 02:08:51.239 --> 02:08:54.039 that's the bad part because that's money that people are 2317 02:08:54.039 --> 02:08:57.560 paying every year. You may own your home, but you're 2318 02:08:57.560 --> 02:08:59.439 still paying rent to the county because they're going to 2319 02:08:59.520 --> 02:09:02.479 hit you with that property tax assessment every year, and 2320 02:09:02.640 --> 02:09:03.760 it's going through the roof. 2321 02:09:03.880 --> 02:09:06.520 People can't afford the taxes, well you can sell their 2322 02:09:06.600 --> 02:09:07.359 houses and the. 2323 02:09:07.439 --> 02:09:10.479 Taxes on the landlords just get added into the rent anyway. 2324 02:09:10.680 --> 02:09:12.680 So you know, not only do they want a little 2325 02:09:12.720 --> 02:09:14.600 more money in their pocket, but they also want to 2326 02:09:14.640 --> 02:09:16.680 cover the cost if their taxes went up too. 2327 02:09:17.479 --> 02:09:20.560 You know that for landlords, the cost of insurance in 2328 02:09:21.159 --> 02:09:24.119 this state has gone up fifty in the past year. 2329 02:09:25.439 --> 02:09:27.439 So if you're you know, if you're a landlord, you've 2330 02:09:27.479 --> 02:09:30.199 got several properties out there, you've got insurance on them, 2331 02:09:30.880 --> 02:09:32.600 those costs are getting jacked up as well. 2332 02:09:32.960 --> 02:09:35.800 Yeah, well that's that's the way when one thing inflates, 2333 02:09:35.840 --> 02:09:37.800 another inflates right next to it. I mean, it's just 2334 02:09:37.880 --> 02:09:38.800 the way of things. 2335 02:09:38.680 --> 02:09:41.359 So, especially the housing market. 2336 02:09:41.640 --> 02:09:45.199 Yeah. So anyhow, Danny, we're coming toward the end here, 2337 02:09:45.479 --> 02:09:47.880 and since nobody else is calling in, I kind of 2338 02:09:47.880 --> 02:09:49.279 want to give you a chance to put in a 2339 02:09:49.399 --> 02:09:51.600 final word on whatever it is you think for the week, 2340 02:09:51.800 --> 02:09:54.359 or whatever it is you want here, and then I 2341 02:09:54.439 --> 02:09:56.079 want to let BPTE get in a word, and then 2342 02:09:56.119 --> 02:09:58.319 we're going to close it out. Uh, and I'm going 2343 02:09:58.399 --> 02:10:00.479 to see if I can reboot everything. I don't know. 2344 02:10:00.560 --> 02:10:03.159 We had some technical issues here so interrupted the show 2345 02:10:03.199 --> 02:10:06.039 a couple of times. But Danny, what do you want 2346 02:10:06.079 --> 02:10:07.880 to kind of lead people with this week? 2347 02:10:09.239 --> 02:10:13.079 Well, well, first of all, thank you Gail for your 2348 02:10:13.199 --> 02:10:18.760 kind words. It was a real nice who you chimed in. 2349 02:10:19.199 --> 02:10:23.239 And my wife grew up in Texas and she talked 2350 02:10:23.359 --> 02:10:25.640 she talked about in the Dallas area. She grew up 2351 02:10:25.680 --> 02:10:28.520 in Richardson Garland and they had they had to I 2352 02:10:28.520 --> 02:10:31.039 remember her telling me about the cafeteria. So it just 2353 02:10:31.159 --> 02:10:34.479 kind of reminded me of my wife talking about her childhood. 2354 02:10:35.119 --> 02:10:37.960 And I would really like to put a shout out 2355 02:10:38.000 --> 02:10:41.199 to everybody worked a little, you know, and no matter 2356 02:10:41.239 --> 02:10:44.520 what labor you do, I appreciate. I just really value 2357 02:10:44.560 --> 02:10:46.760 people that work. I've worked hard all my life and 2358 02:10:47.640 --> 02:10:51.159 and I appreciate people that get off the guts and work. 2359 02:10:52.319 --> 02:10:57.239 And I just thank you for giving me allow me 2360 02:10:57.359 --> 02:10:59.880 to to speep my mind. I appreciate it. 2361 02:11:00.880 --> 02:11:04.079 Well, we appreciate you, Danny. Of course, we appreciate every 2362 02:11:04.119 --> 02:11:07.079 time you call in. Thank you, and thank you for 2363 02:11:07.199 --> 02:11:09.439 being a part of things. Also, I want to thank 2364 02:11:09.680 --> 02:11:12.439 Gail nick Jackson who called in and definitely liven things 2365 02:11:12.520 --> 02:11:15.319 up for quite a while. Sorry we had the technical 2366 02:11:15.399 --> 02:11:17.359 issue and you didn't get back in. I wanted you 2367 02:11:17.520 --> 02:11:20.439 back in, but always glad to hear from Gail. And 2368 02:11:20.520 --> 02:11:22.319 if you haven't read her book, I would suggest you 2369 02:11:22.439 --> 02:11:25.039 do and I'll be looking forward to seeing her at 2370 02:11:25.079 --> 02:11:28.600 the Lancer conference in November, which again is the twenty 2371 02:11:28.640 --> 02:11:30.319 second of the twenty fourth, And you can get ten 2372 02:11:30.359 --> 02:11:34.600 percent off with the code o'celli ten if you sign 2373 02:11:34.720 --> 02:11:37.600 up either for the virtual conference or in person. Okay, 2374 02:11:38.239 --> 02:11:40.680 so that's available, and I'll put it in the show 2375 02:11:40.760 --> 02:11:42.399 notes for this show. If you want to click on 2376 02:11:42.520 --> 02:11:46.319 links below, you'll see it in the podcast. But anyway, 2377 02:11:46.880 --> 02:11:49.680 all of that having been said, b Pete, I guess 2378 02:11:49.720 --> 02:11:51.920 I'll give you the final word. Oh and I got 2379 02:11:52.039 --> 02:11:54.039 to thank Jimmy James for calling in and adding in 2380 02:11:54.840 --> 02:11:59.520 his usual more than two cents and appreciate it, which 2381 02:11:59.600 --> 02:12:03.319 also shout out to him and Creative Accidents for chipping 2382 02:12:03.359 --> 02:12:07.960 in this week to the Ocelli effect. But so up 2383 02:12:08.000 --> 02:12:09.479 to you be, Pete. What do you gotta say? 2384 02:12:10.920 --> 02:12:12.359 Well, I like to say thanks to Gail. 2385 02:12:12.439 --> 02:12:15.000 It's good to hear guys called in and yes, definitely 2386 02:12:15.039 --> 02:12:17.239 want to have her back. And thanks to Danny and 2387 02:12:17.359 --> 02:12:21.199 Jimmy for calling in. One quick little note here that 2388 02:12:21.319 --> 02:12:26.079 I saw in the break. You know, Elon Musk has 2389 02:12:26.119 --> 02:12:32.079 got his Starling satellite system and Brazil's been cracking on 2390 02:12:32.159 --> 02:12:33.840 him here lately, saying that they were going to shut 2391 02:12:33.920 --> 02:12:36.880 down Twitter or Ex's as they are called in Brazil 2392 02:12:37.720 --> 02:12:43.239 because there's nobody monitoring it. There's no moderation on the 2393 02:12:43.359 --> 02:12:45.840 site and people can get on there and basically say 2394 02:12:45.880 --> 02:12:48.800 anything they want, which was one of the reasons that 2395 02:12:49.359 --> 02:12:53.000 Must bought it to begin with. But they threatened him 2396 02:12:53.119 --> 02:12:54.840 and said, you know, if you don't do this, we're 2397 02:12:54.880 --> 02:12:56.920 gonna shut you down. And then they came out and said, 2398 02:12:57.000 --> 02:13:00.159 forget all that, we're just gonna shut you down. And 2399 02:13:00.359 --> 02:13:04.159 about thirty minutes after they announced that decision, the head 2400 02:13:04.199 --> 02:13:07.439 of the military kind of contacted the man in the 2401 02:13:07.479 --> 02:13:13.159 big Alison said, unfortunately, our entire system runs on startling, 2402 02:13:13.319 --> 02:13:16.479 so until you got a different system in place, you 2403 02:13:16.600 --> 02:13:19.159 can't shut it down. So we're going we follow this 2404 02:13:19.279 --> 02:13:20.279 one to see what goes on. 2405 02:13:22.000 --> 02:13:24.840 That ought to be interesting. Yeah, well see, now there's 2406 02:13:24.920 --> 02:13:28.399 the problem when you got a tech giant being run 2407 02:13:28.520 --> 02:13:32.119 by the same guy who's putting an X on everything. Right. Also, 2408 02:13:32.199 --> 02:13:35.199 he had some issues with some X rocket of his 2409 02:13:35.439 --> 02:13:37.000 that got grounded this week too. 2410 02:13:38.600 --> 02:13:42.039 You know, if you're going to rescue the stranded. 2411 02:13:43.159 --> 02:13:47.319 Door a couple astronauts up on the space station, right wow, Yeah, 2412 02:13:47.479 --> 02:13:50.720 Boeings is going to try to bring back their vehicle 2413 02:13:50.920 --> 02:13:53.760 without the astronauts, and Muska is. 2414 02:13:53.720 --> 02:13:57.039 Going to go up and and save them. But his 2415 02:13:57.279 --> 02:13:59.640 rocket messed up, so now they've grounded him, so it's 2416 02:13:59.640 --> 02:14:03.039 going to go further. They're thinking maybe middle of next year. 2417 02:14:03.399 --> 02:14:05.520 Yeah, now they're going to be be up there another 2418 02:14:05.920 --> 02:14:11.039 nine months, so yikes, what can you say about that? 2419 02:14:11.600 --> 02:14:14.920 But when you know you got too many things going 2420 02:14:15.079 --> 02:14:17.840 all roads leading to one place. This is the kind 2421 02:14:17.880 --> 02:14:21.079 of problem you can face, right. Uh, so, hey, we're 2422 02:14:21.079 --> 02:14:22.880 gonna shut you down. We're gonna do this to you. Well, 2423 02:14:22.960 --> 02:14:25.079 you might not want to do that, considering, uh, we 2424 02:14:25.199 --> 02:14:28.840 got your internet connections here. Uh you know, are your 2425 02:14:28.880 --> 02:14:33.359 satellite or whatever. It's it's kind of rough when. 2426 02:14:33.600 --> 02:14:35.960 Funny because they said that, you know they were when 2427 02:14:36.000 --> 02:14:38.000 they first came out and complained about it. They said, well, 2428 02:14:38.000 --> 02:14:39.840 you know, there's a billion issues and this and that, 2429 02:14:40.000 --> 02:14:42.319 and some must reply to them. And says, okay, I'll 2430 02:14:42.319 --> 02:14:44.439 tell you what, until we get this all figured out, 2431 02:14:44.840 --> 02:14:47.840 it's free. My service is free in Brazil to anybody 2432 02:14:47.880 --> 02:14:49.199 that wants to use it. You don't have to worry 2433 02:14:49.199 --> 02:14:51.319 about paying me. You don't have to worry about being billed. 2434 02:14:51.560 --> 02:14:53.680 We'll just take that part out of the equation. And 2435 02:14:53.760 --> 02:14:55.720 then that's when they came back and said, not good enough, 2436 02:14:55.760 --> 02:14:59.039 We're still going to shut you down. Yeah right, mister 2437 02:14:59.119 --> 02:15:02.039 military says you might want to wait a minute on that. 2438 02:15:02.359 --> 02:15:04.840 Yeah you might, because all of a sudden, you know, 2439 02:15:05.199 --> 02:15:07.399 youre cutting your nose off to spite your face. And 2440 02:15:07.880 --> 02:15:10.840 that's the problem again, when somebody's got a monopoly on 2441 02:15:10.920 --> 02:15:13.760 a bunch of things that you're attached to, you know, 2442 02:15:14.239 --> 02:15:15.920 just saying it's one of those things to keep an 2443 02:15:15.960 --> 02:15:17.840 eye on as we go further. 2444 02:15:18.439 --> 02:15:21.880 And as you said, rich Brazil is they have their 2445 02:15:21.920 --> 02:15:22.760 own satellite up. 2446 02:15:24.159 --> 02:15:27.960 I don't know, I don't know what the financial you know, 2447 02:15:28.159 --> 02:15:30.560 standing of Brazil as a nation is at this point. 2448 02:15:31.680 --> 02:15:35.600 You know, we'll have to look into that, but I'm 2449 02:15:35.640 --> 02:15:37.600 sure there's going to be another round. They'll try to 2450 02:15:37.640 --> 02:15:40.239 find another way. So we'll just keep on track of that, 2451 02:15:40.479 --> 02:15:42.840 and we're going to start working on trying to get 2452 02:15:42.880 --> 02:15:43.920 mister Naked news on. 2453 02:15:44.319 --> 02:15:47.119 So we've got some we got a mission ahead of us. 2454 02:15:47.439 --> 02:15:49.640 That'll be fun if we get the original guy on, 2455 02:15:50.279 --> 02:15:51.960 you know, to sit here and tell us about you know, 2456 02:15:52.079 --> 02:15:54.359 please explain to us actually how it is when it 2457 02:15:54.439 --> 02:15:56.920 is you actually got naked in the first place, that 2458 02:15:57.079 --> 02:15:59.760 would be a point of interest, and we would add 2459 02:15:59.760 --> 02:16:01.720 to the news in that way, because no other news 2460 02:16:01.760 --> 02:16:05.520 story about this has reported that thus far right. 2461 02:16:07.000 --> 02:16:08.079 Thought that I can find. 2462 02:16:09.760 --> 02:16:11.840 So there you go. Maybe we'll fill in some gaps 2463 02:16:11.960 --> 02:16:14.479 and you know, hey, look we already made you famous. 2464 02:16:15.000 --> 02:16:17.600 Share one little secret with us. How did you wind 2465 02:16:17.680 --> 02:16:22.479 up naked in the first place. Anyway, this and other 2466 02:16:22.680 --> 02:16:27.479 important world bending issues on the Friday night open mic 2467 02:16:27.600 --> 02:16:31.439 right and again, big thanks to those of you that 2468 02:16:31.560 --> 02:16:34.799 called in, listen in, participate in any which way you can. 2469 02:16:35.840 --> 02:16:38.239 I appreciate you, And if you drop something into the 2470 02:16:39.040 --> 02:16:42.719 tip jar at Ocelly dot com, it is much appreciated 2471 02:16:42.840 --> 02:16:47.079 and very useful, especially at this time at a lot 2472 02:16:47.159 --> 02:16:50.159 of times, honestly, but getting ready to go to Dallas. 2473 02:16:50.440 --> 02:16:52.319 Thank god, I'm not going on my dime because I 2474 02:16:52.319 --> 02:16:55.079 don't got a dime to go on, but you know 2475 02:16:55.479 --> 02:16:57.840 I will need a little help stay and fed and 2476 02:16:57.959 --> 02:17:01.319 such while I'm there. So anything you chip in if 2477 02:17:01.360 --> 02:17:05.280 I can somehow, you know, keep it aside. I will. 2478 02:17:05.840 --> 02:17:08.879 But in the meantime, operational costs and who knows, maybe 2479 02:17:08.920 --> 02:17:10.799 I have to upgrade something. That's why I have technical 2480 02:17:10.840 --> 02:17:14.879 issues tonight. Will find out, you know, as time goes on. 2481 02:17:15.239 --> 02:17:17.319 I keep this going as long as you guys keep 2482 02:17:17.360 --> 02:17:21.799 going with me. So anyway, I know b Pete didn't 2483 02:17:21.840 --> 02:17:25.200 say support your local food banks, but I definitely stand 2484 02:17:25.280 --> 02:17:27.040 with that sentiment, and he usually says it at the 2485 02:17:27.120 --> 02:17:29.959 end of the show. And I'll say what I always say, 2486 02:17:30.360 --> 02:17:32.719 which is I am merely o'celly, and all of you 2487 02:17:33.120 --> 02:17:36.799 are indeed the effect. Good Night, see you next week.