Speaker 1: Welcome to the two seventeen Recovery Podcast.
Speaker 2: If you don't make mistakes, you won't learn.
Speaker 1: With your host Corey Winfield.
Speaker 2: You know how you know fish as bad as you
Speaker 2: can't put it on pizza.
Speaker 1: And special guests Corey Smoker.
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear the hero over here, but
Speaker 3: then I know what you're skipping down the street over
Speaker 3: there doing, you know.
Speaker 4: And Mitchell O'Brien, I think to introduce people who should
Speaker 4: tell them a little bit about a little bit about ourselves.
Speaker 2: Got your as Welcome. It is the sixteenth of August
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. My name is Corey Winfield Primary. I
Speaker 2: hope this isn't the first time listening. Wow, this podcast
Speaker 2: is great. You should check it out and make sure
Speaker 2: it on. I'm like, what is what I'm Corey Smoker.
Speaker 5: On Mitchell O'Brien this podcast.
Speaker 2: This got real quick. My goodness. That's how you start
Speaker 2: a Friday podcast. That's been a long week, I'm telling
Speaker 2: you that's how it goes. Man, It flew by for me,
Speaker 2: flew by and like Monday sucked it forever. Then Tuesday
Speaker 2: I'm like, is it Friday yet? And then yesterday I
Speaker 2: was on a phone call with somebody and I was like, man,
Speaker 2: is it Friday yet? He was like oh, he was
Speaker 2: like trying to get us a new office space with
Speaker 2: our same landlord, you know, and I don't know. But anyway,
Speaker 2: I was like, or we can go, you know, tomorrow,
Speaker 2: and he's like, okay, tomorrow, so maybe Friday then tomorrow,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, he's Friday's.
Speaker 4: Only a day away.
Speaker 2: Like it felt like I was still stuck in Tuesday. Anyway,
Speaker 2: So it's been a long week for all of us.
Speaker 2: Cory Smoker, you are now employed by two seventeen Recovery.
Speaker 2: How's that going.
Speaker 5: It's going amazing.
Speaker 2: Your second day is a little different.
Speaker 3: It is a little different, but I like it. I
Speaker 3: feel comfortable. I've got to talk to a couple of clients,
Speaker 3: had some clients in the office today, and then I'm
Speaker 3: just trying to figure out some Zoom trainings and stuff.
Speaker 3: Marni's I'm gonna pick up with Marnie and start moving
Speaker 3: doing recovery friendly workplace stuff. And then I'm doing some
Speaker 3: trainings online and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we kind of throw you to the wolfs and
Speaker 2: then like figure it out. And you kind of were
Speaker 2: very familiar with to seventeen recovery anyway, so you kind
Speaker 2: of had a head start. You know, if we're just
Speaker 2: hire somebody off the street, they'd be like, what is
Speaker 2: going on? And Mitch, you've been around for a while now,
Speaker 2: any advice for her just starting out?
Speaker 4: Just get that phone greeting down pat and will be good.
Speaker 2: It's two seventeen dot com. Hello to seventeen dot recovery
Speaker 2: dot com. I heard the phone answer that way today
Speaker 2: maybe huh.
Speaker 4: That was right after we talked about it, because somebody,
Speaker 4: somebody made a first time mstay and I understand. And
Speaker 4: then I just mentioned every once in a while, if
Speaker 4: I'm like on the website or something and the phone rings,
Speaker 4: I'll be like, do some recovery dot com And I'm.
Speaker 6: Like yeah, and then it's still better than addiction treatment services.
Speaker 6: I thought she could just add is across the street.
Speaker 2: That was just recovery.
Speaker 4: Happy that it was one of our friends at the
Speaker 4: Community Recovery Alliance because then I just got done saying
Speaker 4: that I used to screw that up, and then I
Speaker 4: answered the phone that way.
Speaker 2: Sure, ye, how it's done. Yeah, they just seventeen recovery
Speaker 2: dot com. What Corey's got this new like I would
Speaker 2: have been just lied out. He's got this new thing
Speaker 2: where he really wants to push the website, so I
Speaker 2: don't know, we're just doing websites.
Speaker 4: He blew right past it any care.
Speaker 2: So that's good. Hey you got a guy, I need
Speaker 2: to get them a treatment. Okay, now we're talking.
Speaker 4: Ye got you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we still do that. But I told her, and
Speaker 2: she had answered it adiction treatment services. It could have
Speaker 2: been like there across the street or you.
Speaker 4: Know, formally yeah, I don't formally know.
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's going to confuse people too, And
Speaker 2: she's like two seventeen recovery. This is Corey and people
Speaker 2: like what, Yeah, Corey was the dude I've met him before.
Speaker 4: Well, this is twenty twenty four in America. So sometimes
Speaker 4: people will call us let's when they're.
Speaker 2: Messed up. I didn't want to say fed up, intoxicated,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, or you know, a little not there, And
Speaker 2: it could really confuse him. This one guy, thinking of
Speaker 2: in particular, he'll call it. He'll start singing on the
Speaker 2: voicemail like it'll just be like we come in and
Speaker 2: we're like, oh, it was a rough weekend, you know
Speaker 2: for that guy. But if he calls new answer and
Speaker 2: he'd be like huh, like it's going to trip him up,
Speaker 2: so it'll be fun and interesting. And then when they
Speaker 2: start calling and that, you know the people, they're always like, oh,
Speaker 2: is Corey there? You know their accents? Yeah, from America
Speaker 2: and they were like, oh, that's good, because have you
Speaker 2: interested in the like and the health insurance and blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. You want to be Man of the Year award.
Speaker 2: That'll really trip him up.
Speaker 4: It's usually something personal because our phone number at one
Speaker 4: time was not a business line, right, And so then
Speaker 4: I'd be like, this is a business and they just click.
Speaker 2: I know, some ass hung up with me last week.
Speaker 2: He's like Mary there and I'm like, no, yeah, those
Speaker 2: are the ones and they hung up. I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I don't hang up on me. I hang up on you,
Speaker 2: m jerk. I was talking to one guy today early.
Speaker 2: His name is Daniel. Apparently that's popular name in the
Speaker 2: Middle East wherever he may be from India, I would assume,
Speaker 2: but I really don't think that's his name.
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: And he was really trying to sell me some insurance
Speaker 2: and he I don't think it was met with the
Speaker 2: answers I was giving him because he was real kind
Speaker 2: of confused. You could tell there's like a sheet in
Speaker 2: front of him, and he didn't really know where to
Speaker 2: pivot it. Finally, when I was like no, and he's
Speaker 2: like oh, and it was just the awkward dismount for us.
Speaker 2: And then I wished him a good day and goodbye, Daniel,
Speaker 2: and he's like, who oh, that's me. He's gonna go
Speaker 2: to those Boston. What do I say when they just
Speaker 2: talk about this other stuff?
Speaker 4: I get the Facebook message scammer versions of those is
Speaker 4: they're fun to play with.
Speaker 2: I don't get those.
Speaker 4: In the same corners of the internet I.
Speaker 2: Am, I guess not. And I'm not sad that I
Speaker 2: don't get those. I'm just saying Corey looks a little lost.
Speaker 5: We'll stay on the corner of the internet. I'm on there.
Speaker 2: We go, Mitch and Justin will play over there. I
Speaker 2: wish I had the dick pick to drop, which we
Speaker 2: got to play it now that I brought it up.
Speaker 2: So yesterday, yesterday you were doing a podcast with one
Speaker 2: Justin Burke.
Speaker 4: And the Treasure of You Found Entertainment. Yeah, you my
Speaker 4: holy Grail is what I called it. Okay, yeah, that's
Speaker 4: it is.
Speaker 2: It's something that I'm about to play it and you're
Speaker 2: gonna lose your mind if if you hear this. But
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play in the whole context. So are you
Speaker 2: playing both or just the one? Okay, that wasn't one
Speaker 2: whole clip. That was a little bit of this one,
Speaker 2: and there was like thirty seconds of talking in between
Speaker 2: the first and the second one. I just sent them
Speaker 2: to you like that, and I think I put them
Speaker 2: those all right, Well, let's just give that a listen
Speaker 2: real quick.
Speaker 7: And so that really got me thinking about how well
Speaker 7: that movie dictated that, you know, with talking to a psychiatrist.
Speaker 7: The thumbnail totally does not dick pick the movie at all.
Speaker 4: Dick pic whatever I tried not to say something the first.
Speaker 7: Time anyway, Yeah, so totally does not dick pick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so whenever you can use that in sentence, now,
Speaker 2: oh Mitch, the way you came into the.
Speaker 7: Work today totally does not dick pick.
Speaker 2: Totally does not dick pic. We can use that, and
Speaker 2: maybe it's part of this Alpha generation they come up
Speaker 2: with this new slang and this ohio giddy or I
Speaker 2: don't even know what it's called. No but that doesn't
Speaker 2: dick pick.
Speaker 7: Totally does not dick pick.
Speaker 2: That doesn't dick pic.
Speaker 4: Bro, He's gonna be so mad. It's great. I I
Speaker 4: just breeze past the first one. I obviously heard it.
Speaker 4: I like turn, I like side to side, looking for you,
Speaker 4: like nobody heard this. Nobody heard this, It's recorded. And
Speaker 4: then twenty seconds later it got even better with the
Speaker 4: dick pic and I couldn't not say something, yeah, one.
Speaker 7: More again, And so that really got me thinking about
Speaker 7: how well that movie dictated that, you know, with talking
Speaker 7: to a psychiatrist. The thumbnail totally does not dick pick
Speaker 7: the movie. Whatever.
Speaker 4: I tried to say something the first time, anyway, I
Speaker 4: could not. I had I had to acknowledge it.
Speaker 2: You had to at that point, you know, the first one. Okay,
Speaker 2: like you there's more coming. If we stopped him every time,
Speaker 2: it would better be a podcast.
Speaker 4: Affect the other day, and it made me think, have
Speaker 4: you ever seen that Duck Dynasty, you know the beard guys,
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, yeah, he's our.
Speaker 2: Uncle SI, yes he is. He truly like I.
Speaker 4: Should ask him if he's ever been to Vietnam?
Speaker 2: Your friends answer spoke just like red these lass I
Speaker 2: know but that and that's that made it to the
Speaker 2: podcast White Knuckling It.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's in the episode, right in the middle of it,
Speaker 4: and they're right next to each other, like fifteen twenty
Speaker 4: seconds apart.
Speaker 2: So check out the white knuckling It podcast.
Speaker 4: Thinks I'm I'm mixing it down to post it and
Speaker 4: I'm chopping them up to.
Speaker 1: Send you.
Speaker 5: Guys are both on the shit list.
Speaker 7: Now, Well, I would have felt totally does not Dick
Speaker 7: pick that doesn't.
Speaker 4: I would have felt this bad, just a little tiny
Speaker 4: bit bad if it was like his memory card. But
Speaker 4: there was also the issue with the memory card, and
Speaker 4: so it was my memory card. And so I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do whatever I want with what I'm in
Speaker 4: possession of.
Speaker 2: Nine tents in the law, but in that case, it's
Speaker 2: one hundred percent of the law that's yours.
Speaker 4: So he was in there, he's like, I don't consent
Speaker 4: to any of this, you guys for defecation or something
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he didn't use that word.
Speaker 4: It's defamation, right, so I would assume.
Speaker 2: He, yeah, he would defication. He's probably been sued for that,
Speaker 2: so he might know that word. Though.
Speaker 4: That was my thing.
Speaker 2: I just losing it.
Speaker 5: You don't have to start something having English class. You're wrong.
Speaker 2: That's why Martie wants to start a book club.
Speaker 5: We could start pronunciation.
Speaker 6: Specifically, for I know there's not a lot of words
Speaker 6: in the Pooh books either, so we can start them
Speaker 6: out lightly.
Speaker 2: And I'd be afraid how how we mess up the
Speaker 2: word tigger.
Speaker 7: Totally does not.
Speaker 5: We need to pack this ship out the deck like
Speaker 5: we never even recorded this.
Speaker 4: No, we don't know.
Speaker 2: That might be can wait to call some some fun
Speaker 2: Friday now, Oh, it.
Speaker 4: Might be the longest I've ever laughed in the podcast.
Speaker 3: Okay here at two seventeen on Fridays.
Speaker 5: We like to promote fun and recovery.
Speaker 8: Does not Dick pick pick what we do here.
Speaker 2: Having fun to recovery.
Speaker 4: However, oh man, when you said dic pated, I want
Speaker 4: to say you did watch.
Speaker 7: Your one.
Speaker 9: Just like.
Speaker 2: You guess her, asshole. Have you just met us? I've
Speaker 2: known you for a few years.
Speaker 4: Man, Like I'm like, dude, you get me so much
Speaker 4: grap We do it because we love you, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. And I'm mad at them, so it's
Speaker 2: that mad love.
Speaker 4: Oh I'm crying. Okay, what we're.
Speaker 2: Talking about recovery and stuff.
Speaker 4: Burst over today we are so recording.
Speaker 2: It's her first day.
Speaker 6: So you started on a Thursday, which most people are like,
Speaker 6: why would you start on a Thursday? Well, because this
Speaker 6: is what we do, and it fell on our paydays
Speaker 6: to where you would have to miss paycheck and and
Speaker 6: how we do our paydays like we pay up to date.
Speaker 2: So it just made sense that you started on Thursday.
Speaker 2: But what has has anything surprised you so far? Nothing? No, no, no.
Speaker 3: I already kind of knew what was probably headed my way,
Speaker 3: and then I was going to be working in the
Speaker 3: office with these guys, so I was like, you know,
Speaker 3: that wasn't ever like a contemplation like can I work
Speaker 3: with these guys? Or I knew that I could, And
Speaker 3: you know, sitting up there, you just don't know what
Speaker 3: you might hear, And that's okay.
Speaker 4: Sitting up there, you hear everything that happens in this
Speaker 4: office space you do. It's it's wild. And I think
Speaker 4: I told you that before, and you're starting to I
Speaker 4: know you've noticed.
Speaker 5: But then there's times it's like really silent.
Speaker 3: So like me and Cory were sitting here today, I
Speaker 3: know he's doing Texas, so I can just see his
Speaker 3: brain smoking.
Speaker 4: That's probably his fate.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, that's my brain Too's like printing out
Speaker 2: the same thing any time.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, like, why did I put that in
Speaker 2: the other expenses category? What is that?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 2: I gotta go back to quick books and change it
Speaker 2: and put it in whatever I want, you know. I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: it'd be easy to say, have two categories, you know,
Speaker 2: but instead I got like fifty. And then I'm like,
Speaker 2: where did I find the six forty? Where's it at?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: I find six seventy of it? And I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: ten dollars is fine, whatever, So you can't find that,
Speaker 2: I don't know whatever, let's get on the taxes. And
Speaker 2: then since we made like eighteen gazillion dollars last year,
Speaker 2: which we did not make eighteenazillion dollars, but I had
Speaker 2: to do the other form, which is like the not
Speaker 2: the it doesn't have the easy on the end of it.
Speaker 2: I love in those forms. You can use those for anything. No,
Speaker 2: not this one. So I'm like day one into like
Speaker 2: day six, I think there's like six days probably into
Speaker 2: this bad Boy. Yeah, it's it's it's not dick pick.
Speaker 7: Man it's not totally does not dick pick.
Speaker 2: It does not dick pick. The fun we have here.
Speaker 2: Taxes no, and I had some guy asked me a
Speaker 2: couple weeks ago, or maybe it was last week, I
Speaker 2: don't know, but it's kind of rudebout it. He's like, hey, man,
Speaker 2: who does your books? Because you're counting? It was like me,
Speaker 2: He's like, f off, bro, for real, give me your
Speaker 2: guys number. I was like, well that I don't even
Speaker 2: know you dude. You're still not even save it to
Speaker 2: my phone. But okay, I do them. I'm not an accountant.
Speaker 2: I asked my brother who is, and he's like, shit, nope,
Speaker 2: Like I'll pay you and he's like that's all right.
Speaker 2: And I asked like three other accounts in the area.
Speaker 2: They're like, no, I'm good. I'm like, will you help
Speaker 2: me with them? Well, what do you need to know
Speaker 2: how to do them? No, I'm good. I was just
Speaker 2: gonna tell you to put like if you get gas,
Speaker 2: put that in your travel expenses. You know, shit, you
Speaker 2: can figure that part out, but file them for me. No.
Speaker 2: So last year it was easy because I could use
Speaker 2: the easy form, and this year, yeah, it's gonna be
Speaker 2: It's gonna take some time, but it just goes to
Speaker 2: show you that there's a lot that people can do
Speaker 2: when they don't think they can. Well, I don't know how.
Speaker 2: That shouldn't be an excuse. Not in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: because you can figure out how I got to October fifteenth.
Speaker 2: The file the boys, So I'm glad I started him
Speaker 2: early this year instead of starting on October fifteenth like
Speaker 2: I did last year. Because they find you it's like
Speaker 2: fifty bucks a day and I don't care for a nonprofit.
Speaker 4: Oh like, we didn't have to pay any taxes. That's
Speaker 4: how they got his ass is you ain't gonna be
Speaker 4: paying us no taxes, so we're just gonna let you go.
Speaker 4: We're not gonna remind you. Just go on. And it's
Speaker 4: like day want too fine?
Speaker 7: I got your asked two times because you can't drive.
Speaker 2: I can't drive.
Speaker 4: Somewhere down the line, someone to be like, how much
Speaker 4: do you guys paid for taxes?
Speaker 2: Well, we're not supposed to pay any but we have
Speaker 2: paid this.
Speaker 4: They got sneaky about it.
Speaker 2: We're paying taxes. We got fined nineteen hundred dollars if
Speaker 2: I'm not filing taxes on time. Yeah, glad it's nice
Speaker 2: and even I bought to wait another day and added
Speaker 2: fifty bucks to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll find a way if you don't get on
Speaker 3: that and start and do it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's yeah, and there's like eighty other
Speaker 2: things I'm doing all the time. It seems like too.
Speaker 2: So that's what I was. And Mitch, you're kind of
Speaker 2: in the same boat, like you've taken on different now
Speaker 2: you're doing this podcast, you're doing that podcast. She got
Speaker 2: a son, You're trying to be social, you know, like
Speaker 2: it's hard to balance it all, man, you know it.
Speaker 4: End up staying up until one o'clock in the morning
Speaker 4: just so you can talk to everybody that you're trying
Speaker 4: to you know, be around and be here and go home. Kid.
Speaker 4: The other day, I was like, I've committed my time
Speaker 4: to four podcasts, and it seemed like a lot until
Speaker 4: I was doing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it takes time, especially when you're the one editing
Speaker 2: them and you're putting things together that that takes the
Speaker 2: most time. Obviously, it really tick pics my whole day
Speaker 2: digs fixture right up.
Speaker 4: But it'd be a real tiger sometimes I couldn't go
Speaker 4: it's been here, it's been here this whole.
Speaker 3: Time, letting it all here right now to defend himself.
Speaker 4: So we made up the cigarette.
Speaker 5: What's of his book?
Speaker 4: I'm never gonna be able to look at his friend,
Speaker 4: his tiger friend obviously the best part of this tiger
Speaker 4: has that.
Speaker 2: Energy, man, what energy?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 9: You know, if making a statement, I was making a
Speaker 9: statement man, you know, just.
Speaker 2: Like justin what's up, he'd be.
Speaker 10: Like, fabulous, Oh, I think I needed this podcast.
Speaker 2: But it's it's tough and we get busy sometimes. And
Speaker 2: I was scored. One of my idols. His name is
Speaker 2: Gordon Keith, and he does radio in Texas, but he
Speaker 2: does this discord thing and he was talking on there
Speaker 2: and somebody asked him, you know, what's what's your biggest vice?
Speaker 2: And they know he doesn't drink or smoke anymore, and
Speaker 2: he was like, well, my biggest vice is like would
Speaker 2: probably be just that I always feel like I never
Speaker 2: accomplished anything. He's like, I have this long list of
Speaker 2: things that I want to do and I want to complete.
Speaker 2: I can never get them done. And there's always something
Speaker 2: that I didn't plan on that day just happening and
Speaker 2: just taking me in a different direction and just and
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, that's how I feel. Yeah, And I
Speaker 2: don't know if you feel that way, Corey, but yeah.
Speaker 5: Like time management is not a friend of mine.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of what he said too, because he
Speaker 2: said he'll he'll find himself on point, on task and
Speaker 2: then once he goes off task, which we all have
Speaker 2: to do. Everybody in this world has to do that
Speaker 2: at some point, and he just spends out of control
Speaker 2: with it. And it's so.
Speaker 4: Relevant here too with what we do because like today
Speaker 4: somebody should you know, two seventeen recovery dot com and
Speaker 4: you get the guy's treatment. Yeah, I'll drop it. I'm
Speaker 4: doing and I'll be there. You know, That's that's what
Speaker 4: I do. We're dropping center. We had that happen today.
Speaker 4: That doesn't happen every day, but we had that happen today.
Speaker 4: We had that happened yesterday. And you know, it's like
Speaker 4: you take time out of what you're doing to you know,
Speaker 4: sit and talk to people and try to guide them
Speaker 4: or help them. And it does like you have a
Speaker 4: you kind of have a plan in your head of
Speaker 4: what you want to get done in that day. But
Speaker 4: our job is literally to let go of that sometimes
Speaker 4: to help people.
Speaker 2: And today's situation was so frustrating for us because we
Speaker 2: can only do so much. We're not homeless shelter, we're
Speaker 2: not or anything like that, and we try to get
Speaker 2: people connected to the services that we can and they
Speaker 2: come in they're not from our area, so that already
Speaker 2: is a handcuff. But hey, if we need to eat
Speaker 2: some gas costs, we will, you know, to get a
Speaker 2: person safely wherever they need to go. Well, the rest
Speaker 2: will all wash out, you know if we do good
Speaker 2: and good will happen to us. So that's kind of
Speaker 2: how we look at that. But you know, there were
Speaker 2: a lot of things in play, and then we're you know,
Speaker 2: making phone calls and stuff, and these people are known already,
Speaker 2: and it's just like, okay, well they're and everybody was
Speaker 2: just kind of acting shady, like, oh, well, they're trying
Speaker 2: to get one over on us. Okay, even if they were,
Speaker 2: they're asking for help and we have to do what
Speaker 2: we can to get them help when they ask for help.
Speaker 2: You know, we can't just be like, oh, we don't
Speaker 2: do that because it's Friday. You know, that's other people
Speaker 2: can do that. I don't work for other people, you know,
Speaker 2: but what we do here is the damnedest to get
Speaker 2: that person where they need to go. And it sucks
Speaker 2: when we can't facilitate that, you know. And it was
Speaker 2: out of our hands. Like if that was a place
Speaker 2: for that person to go or those people to go
Speaker 2: or whatever, we would have taken them. But there was
Speaker 2: just no place. And next thing, you know, it's two
Speaker 2: thirty and it's like, well it's two thirty and it's
Speaker 2: a Friday, so yeah, you know, like the chances of
Speaker 2: you getting to a place because the closest place to
Speaker 2: us is out well that already said no, it would
Speaker 2: have to be next week. So it's just like an
Speaker 2: hour and a half away. You know what's next? Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know it's three hours to get up north. It's
Speaker 2: you know, four hours to Detroit. Where are you gonna go?
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes Hope does stop at five o'clock on Friday, unfortunately,
Speaker 2: and that's that's too bad. Sometimes it doesn't. But you know,
Speaker 2: most places, they they're businesses and they have to go
Speaker 2: home and see their families too.
Speaker 9: And.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just frustrating and you kind of
Speaker 2: feel like you lose sometimes and you know, I don't
Speaker 2: want us to feel like we lost, you know, because
Speaker 2: we couldn't connect someone. But we did all that we
Speaker 2: could do. You feel that, Cory, Yeah, I mean we tried.
Speaker 3: You know, we called to different places, We gave them,
Speaker 3: we let them use our work phones to call and
Speaker 3: do an intake, and you know there was stipulations and
Speaker 3: rules at that one that weren't you know, the client
Speaker 3: didn't want to agree with. And then the other place
Speaker 3: they couldn't take the one until Tuesday. And you know,
Speaker 3: I had gave the best suggestion, but like again, that's
Speaker 3: just a suggestion, like hey, I would call this place
Speaker 3: and at least get the intake process done so if
Speaker 3: worst comes the worst Tuesday, you have a place to
Speaker 3: and that you know, well it's not today.
Speaker 5: So you know, I did the best we could.
Speaker 3: And I offered that you know, we have meetings here
Speaker 3: on Saturday and Sunday, and that they were welcome to
Speaker 3: come and attend our meetings. And you know, I wish
Speaker 3: them the best of luck and and hopes that they
Speaker 3: can you know, find a place and get to where
Speaker 3: they need to go. But I mean there's two size
Speaker 3: of it, Like I sit here and I want to
Speaker 3: meet that I want to get them somewhere, but at
Speaker 3: the same time, like, was I working harder than them
Speaker 3: to get there?
Speaker 2: And there was a place in Grand Rapids that was
Speaker 2: like I'm on now and talking about guiding light and
Speaker 2: we prefer people there a lot. And that's when you
Speaker 2: can really kind of sort out the people that are
Speaker 2: just saying stuff that they need to say to try
Speaker 2: to get in somewhere and the people that are actually
Speaker 2: wanting it. Because the people that are wanting it go, So.
Speaker 4: Here's a possible plug for them, and a question for
Speaker 4: you because I wasn't sure I.
Speaker 7: Is there totally does not Dick pic doesn't.
Speaker 2: Pick the question.
Speaker 4: Is there? Women's open? Yes, awesome. So know before they
Speaker 4: were talking about June and I just hadn't followed up
Speaker 4: with them since Choll I think maybe the end of June. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And so that's cool. That's really cool because that was
Speaker 4: a long time and you know, work a long time
Speaker 4: in the work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, gouting light is it. It's a kind of a
Speaker 2: different program. They're not funded through the state. They're runoff
Speaker 2: donations and they have this program. It's long. It's like
Speaker 2: nine months, which is how it probably should be. And
Speaker 2: it's not for everybody, just like every other program isn't
Speaker 2: for everybody. There's there's not one that's just tailored for everybody.
Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna be happy. Some people bitch sometimes when they
Speaker 2: go to a place or I can't vape and I
Speaker 2: can't smoke, or can't do this, I can't use my phone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, make me.
Speaker 6: Work out, hurt my back, you know, like there's there's
Speaker 6: different places that don't work out for I went.
Speaker 2: Through Guiding Light and it didn't didn't work for me.
Speaker 2: But I still think it's a great program, you know.
Speaker 2: And it's it's a place where people can go, especially
Speaker 2: if you're if they're serious about wanting the change that's needed,
Speaker 2: you want to change your whole life, give it a shot.
Speaker 2: It's great. And they have like apartments. It's called the
Speaker 2: Iron Horse or Iron House probably would make more sense.
Speaker 2: It's not how it's not a horse. Oh is that?
Speaker 4: Sorry? Excuse me, Gez.
Speaker 7: But they oh totally does not Dick pic.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that that Dick pics hallway there yet. So
Speaker 2: I'm glad we got on AIRLA. But they they have
Speaker 2: this program where you can go live in these apartments.
Speaker 2: And I was talking to a guy last week. I
Speaker 2: offered it to him and he's like, well, I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to do no transitional sober living. I'm not standing
Speaker 2: in no sober living house. I'm like, well, actually it's apartment.
Speaker 2: You have a roommate, and you'd have to be sober. Yes, well,
Speaker 2: I don't want to do all that. I just need
Speaker 2: a place to live. I'm like, well, huh, I'm so
Speaker 2: confused right now, so confused. And I don't know if
Speaker 2: they would have taken him, but I was like, here's
Speaker 2: a phone number if he didn't even want it. You know,
Speaker 2: it's kind of crazy how some people will be setting
Speaker 2: their waists and I'm sure I was like that I
Speaker 2: would leave a treatment after a week, after a day
Speaker 2: something wasn't going my way. Nope, can't do it.
Speaker 3: That just shows me that they're not at that absolute
Speaker 3: defeat yet, not ready to just you know, make a decision,
Speaker 3: you know, be that totally humble, like okay, they got
Speaker 3: all these rules, just go there, just to bide by
Speaker 3: them for today.
Speaker 2: Well I have to be there for my kids or
Speaker 2: you know, my kid has this thing, or I'm trying
Speaker 2: to the kids. That people use that a lot because
Speaker 2: they think people are just gonna be like, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: we're gonna do an exception because you're waiting for your
Speaker 2: kid and sometimes I have to go back to jail.
Speaker 2: I have to go back to prison. Well, how are
Speaker 2: you gonna tell the warden, Hey, I need to go
Speaker 2: out because I need to go to see the judge
Speaker 2: and get my kid back so I can have them
Speaker 2: in here. Like those are your options. Like, if those
Speaker 2: are your options, that's a bad choice, especially if you're
Speaker 2: doing for someone else. Well I gotta protect this person
Speaker 2: or I gotta stay here for them or do this
Speaker 2: for that person.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're gonna go back to jail or prison
Speaker 2: and you're not going to see your kid for another
Speaker 2: five years. Then, like how how's that winning?
Speaker 3: Or Like what I was thinking is like, well, I mean, okay,
Speaker 3: so you're you're you need to go back to court
Speaker 3: because you're fighting for custody back from your kids and
Speaker 3: they're going to terminate your rights. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: you're you're doing You're living like this right now and
Speaker 3: you're homeless, Like maybe you should try to go and
Speaker 3: start helping yourself.
Speaker 2: Mh. But some people, they will get it twisted and
Speaker 2: I would do the same things, man, And I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's the addiction part or what. And it
Speaker 2: just makes you make bad decisions.
Speaker 7: It was totally does not dick Pica.
Speaker 2: It doesn't dick pick how I acted.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you said what you said, though, because it's
Speaker 4: hard for me. It just not And when I say,
Speaker 4: obviously what you said, Corey the lady one, this is
Speaker 4: difficult man, having you both in here, obviously, but it's
Speaker 4: hard for me to not just kind of drop it
Speaker 4: and be like, all right, cool when they start doing
Speaker 4: that because for my and I think you guys can relate,
Speaker 4: But for me, it never worked. When I started to
Speaker 4: do the but this, but that, but this, but that
Speaker 4: and the last time was when I let go of
Speaker 4: all of everything and put the recovery first. Everything I
Speaker 4: didn't want to do, I let it go and if
Speaker 4: they wanted me to do it, that's what I did,
Speaker 4: and it worked.
Speaker 3: I had to stop doing a lot of things I
Speaker 3: like doing and start doing a lot of things I
Speaker 3: don't like doing.
Speaker 2: Things you need to do. That's how I looked at it.
Speaker 2: Want need yep, do I want to? I remember having
Speaker 2: that debate with myself when I was at the treatment
Speaker 2: center last time, and I'm sitting there at the table,
Speaker 2: I'm making a pros and cons list and I turned
Speaker 2: it into wants and needs list and do I want
Speaker 2: to go to so we're living and live with you know,
Speaker 2: eighteen guys or whatever it was? No, do I need to? Yes,
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen to me if I go there? You know,
Speaker 2: I'm afraid I'm gonna catch some sobriety time, you know, like, like,
Speaker 2: what's what's the worst that's gonna happen. I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: like somebody. Okay, there's a lot of people don't like,
Speaker 2: you know. And I learned that last time in treatment too,
Speaker 2: how to only not only control the things like only
Speaker 2: that I can control. That might have to be a
Speaker 2: job because I didn't make any sense. But I also
Speaker 2: learned that not everything's my Jesus crime, Ay, what's happening here?
Speaker 2: Thanks again for listening. Yeah, yeah, so it was if
Speaker 2: I can get words out of the mouth, I can't
Speaker 2: control what other people do, and I only have to
Speaker 2: worry about the things that I can control. I need
Speaker 2: some applause now, yes, yeah, I was trying to say yes,
Speaker 2: thank you. Thanks, and it made my life so much easier,
Speaker 2: and it was it was a better way to navigate
Speaker 2: through your life and through the thing that you're going through.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, but when people get caught up
Speaker 2: in other people's problems or other people's business there or
Speaker 2: other people's things, start doing it for someone else, it
Speaker 2: just doesn't work. But yeah, if you can make that
Speaker 2: wance needs list, it'll it'll really help you kind of determine.
Speaker 2: But a lot of people aren't ready. And I wasn't
Speaker 2: ready for the longest time because I still wanted to
Speaker 2: drink one day. You know, I'll wait five years and
Speaker 2: I'll drink. I couldn't wait two weeks. Sometimes after leaving treatment.
Speaker 3: I always like to say two to like, you know,
Speaker 3: from working over inside de Talks and seeing some clients,
Speaker 3: like i'd ask, I'm like, what is it that you
Speaker 3: have to.
Speaker 5: Lose right now?
Speaker 2: Well, my job man, you're gonna lose that, my house man,
Speaker 2: and they like money too, m hm, you know, and
Speaker 2: you're gonna start over at some point, you know, just
Speaker 2: come back when you're ready then, you know. So I
Speaker 2: have to tell them and do you.
Speaker 4: Want to push us all the way to the edge
Speaker 4: and lose your life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that happens too, So it's just a it's just
Speaker 2: a oh I changed. The thing was. This is quite
Speaker 2: the podcast that we got going. It's from the jump.
Speaker 4: It's been a real tigger from the beginning. I'm bouncing
Speaker 4: all over the place, That's what I was. I was
Speaker 4: referring to not our finest.
Speaker 2: But hey, we're going to wrap it up anyway because
Speaker 2: at least we did one right.
Speaker 4: It made me feel better.
Speaker 5: We made it here on a Friday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, and it's better than nothing, I guess.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean if you got a couple of laughs out
Speaker 2: of it, cool, great, it's more than a couple. Yeah,
Speaker 2: But it's been a minute since we've done a two
Speaker 2: seventeen recovery podcast, and Corey was your first week, so
Speaker 2: we wanted to kind of bring you in at some
Speaker 2: point too and get you on mic and say hello
Speaker 2: and introduce you to the world.
Speaker 3: So, yep, I'm here, So come on in stop by
Speaker 3: nine to five Monday through Friday.
Speaker 2: Welcome there you go. Forty five East eighth Street, sweep Bee,
Speaker 2: Traverse City, Michigan.
Speaker 3: Hey, hi, ask about some services we could possibly start
Speaker 3: a new meetings we.
Speaker 4: Have movie services in the background.
Speaker 2: Yes we do, Yes we do, but yeah, thanks for
Speaker 2: tuning in and we'll talk to you again later.
Speaker 5: Bye, peace out.
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