WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.000 And one of your putty. I got a string going 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:06.120 on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog, 3 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:08.960 my dog. We're flying through the air over the tree. 4 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:13.640 I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm 5 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:16.120 really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over 6 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:17.800 the fence and he was dead. And once you hit 7 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:19.679 the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I 8 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:38.320 saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what 9 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:42.960 are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling 10 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:51.920 around out here? Did you see what it was? 11 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:52.240 Or was it was? 12 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:54.679 Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now 13 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:57.479 and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. 14 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:04.799 Jesus Quice, you better Hello, hit the boddy out here? 15 00:01:05.079 --> 00:01:06.040 What quin? I'm out there? 16 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:06.719 I thought of a. 17 00:01:06.680 --> 00:01:09.680 Bench about take forty nine. I don't know easy, am 18 00:01:09.760 --> 00:01:12.519 out there? Yeah, I'm walking right head all. 19 00:01:12.480 --> 00:01:14.079 Right, folks, that will welcome our guest to the show. 20 00:01:14.159 --> 00:01:17.439 It is Melissa from Georgia. Welcome to the show. 21 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:18.959 Thank you. It's a pleasure to be here. 22 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:20.640 I have been looking forward to this. 23 00:01:20.719 --> 00:01:22.920 You and I got to spend some time together over 24 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:25.560 across the pond last month. 25 00:01:25.640 --> 00:01:28.359 How time flies when you're having fun. We were over 26 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:28.680 for the. 27 00:01:28.599 --> 00:01:32.480 Red carpet premiere of My Bigfoot Life. You and Natalie, 28 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:35.760 we met up at the airport. We had a fantastic time, 29 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:38.959 so many laughs, so many good times. 30 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:41.200 Were had over there. I want to give your take 31 00:01:41.239 --> 00:01:41.719 on that trip. 32 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:43.560 I know that was your first time across the pond, 33 00:01:43.640 --> 00:01:46.120 So just in general, how did you feel about England 34 00:01:46.519 --> 00:01:49.439 and specifically the time that we got to spend out 35 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:52.799 in the woods on Sunday. I know, my first experience 36 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:54.480 there was a couple of summers ago when I got 37 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:56.239 to go out in the forest for the first time 38 00:01:56.439 --> 00:01:58.879 over in England, and I was blown away by the 39 00:01:58.920 --> 00:02:02.000 similarities of of what we see here in the States. 40 00:02:02.319 --> 00:02:03.799 Talk a little bit about that trip for you. 41 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:05.560 How was that trip and how did you feel about 42 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:07.959 getting out into the woods over there in England. 43 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:10.199 First of all, like you said, it was my first 44 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:13.599 time across the pond, so I was really excited to 45 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:16.520 visit another land other than Canada, and that was the 46 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:18.599 only place i'd been. I feel like that's just an 47 00:02:18.639 --> 00:02:21.000 extension of the ad stage. So it was fun to 48 00:02:21.039 --> 00:02:24.879 go to the UK. I thought that people were absolutely lovely. 49 00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:27.919 They were so polite, so friendly, It's like you didn't 50 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:30.719 know a stranger there. It was really heartwarming to me. 51 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:34.120 The people, they just were so accommodating. It was one 52 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:36.560 of the things that really stood out to me. The 53 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:39.840 woods there were absolutely beautiful. I think I made a 54 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:42.879 little video and posted it somewhere talking about how enchanting 55 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:45.080 those woods are. And you can see where the fairy 56 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:47.639 tales and things medieval times, so they talk about the 57 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:50.520 enchanted forests and stuff. It deathIn thely fits the bill. 58 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:54.319 But I did note that there were so many similarities 59 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:57.960 to both Appalachia and the Pacific Northwest. It was like 60 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:02.080 they came together and had a bearded baby or something, 61 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:04.960 a moss covered baby. The moss there was just so 62 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:07.159 thick all over the ground. It was so beautiful, and 63 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:08.960 it would grow up the trees similar to like it 64 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:11.960 does in the Pacific Northwest. Not so much here. The 65 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:15.719 trees were just beautiful. They reminded me more of home. 66 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:19.439 Maybe not quite as many trees, but certainly so beautiful. 67 00:03:19.439 --> 00:03:22.159 And like I said, it just had this enchanting type 68 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:25.599 feel where you could the mysteries totally would be the 69 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:28.199 norm in that area. Just so cool. 70 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:29.439 Yeah, I agree. 71 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:32.159 The first time I made that trek. When Danny and 72 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:33.719 I went over there a couple of summers ago, we 73 00:03:33.759 --> 00:03:38.599 took a train from London Heathrow into Somerset. We spent 74 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:41.800 probably a week or so in London doing the touristy stuff, 75 00:03:41.800 --> 00:03:43.199 and then we took a train out. So it was 76 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:45.199 so cool to be able to experience with you and 77 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:48.800 Natalie getting in a car and driving across that three 78 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:52.000 plus hours or whatever it was from London into Somerset 79 00:03:52.479 --> 00:03:55.319 and getting to see the countryside in a different way. 80 00:03:55.400 --> 00:03:57.520 I saw different places in the car ride than we 81 00:03:57.560 --> 00:03:59.439 got to see on the train ride, so it was 82 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:01.199 really cool to experience. And I know you guys are 83 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:03.159 going to be back over there in August. I may 84 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:05.560 or may not be there, we haven't made that decision yet, 85 00:04:05.759 --> 00:04:06.960 but I know you guys are going to be back 86 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:08.879 over there in August. So I'm really excited that you 87 00:04:08.919 --> 00:04:11.360 get to see even more of the countryside in hopefully 88 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:13.719 different ways, because I think every time you go you 89 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:18.079 get a little bit different perspective on the country, the people, 90 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:21.639 the different areas. Obviously, the woods were what stuck out 91 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:23.360 to me because very much like you, I think, if 92 00:04:23.399 --> 00:04:25.519 you put it so eloquently, in the video that you did. 93 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:29.079 How it compares to so many different places here in 94 00:04:29.079 --> 00:04:31.079 the United States, whether it be the Southeast where you 95 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:33.680 and I are from, versus the Pacific Northwest. 96 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:34.319 It is like. 97 00:04:34.319 --> 00:04:37.439 The bearded baby, if you will up two. I think 98 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:39.959 so many people miss that because when you say anything 99 00:04:39.959 --> 00:04:42.319 about Bigfoot or Sasquatch and you try to relate it 100 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:45.680 to England, people tend to roll their eyes. But if 101 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:48.439 you really go out and look in some of the 102 00:04:48.439 --> 00:04:51.680 places like you and I were, there's a possibility that 103 00:04:51.759 --> 00:04:54.399 something exists there. We were actually looking at a video 104 00:04:54.560 --> 00:04:57.839 that young Jet had recorded with his mom. I was 105 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:00.439 actually looking at that yesterday and trying to slow down 106 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:04.399 and do some comparison stuff. It's a really strange video. 107 00:05:04.480 --> 00:05:06.600 We'll leave that as a teaser for you guys. If 108 00:05:06.600 --> 00:05:08.920 you really want to see the any depth coverage of that, 109 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:11.639 you'll have to check out legend Seekers over on YouTube. 110 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:15.199 Daniel and Ryan were doing some filming while Melissa and 111 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:17.240 I were out there, and Natalie was certainly helping with 112 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:19.720 some of the filming when we're out on location, because 113 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:22.759 I think we found the exact trees that Jet and 114 00:05:22.839 --> 00:05:26.319 his mom recorded that particular video of so I'll just 115 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:28.120 leave that as a teaser for you guys. Maybe I'll 116 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:30.000 throw the video up at some point once it airs 117 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:31.680 over on Legend Seekers and let you guys see it 118 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:32.839 because it's really compelling. 119 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:36.600 Something is coming down between two trees. Let's just leave 120 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:36.839 it at that. 121 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:39.560 Yeah, it's definitely possible. I know you just think of 122 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:41.920 it as like this big island or something and not 123 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:45.160 even having a real forest that the forest is so 124 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:48.199 beautiful in its own right, and it's very indistinctive. Like 125 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:51.000 I said, it has elements of both Pacific Northwest and 126 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:54.040 the East Coast Forest. But you can totally see that 127 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:56.439 there could be some mysteries hiding out in there, for sure. 128 00:05:56.839 --> 00:05:59.839 I appreciate you indulging me in reminiscing about our trip, 129 00:05:59.839 --> 00:06:01.360 but that's not what we're here to talk about. We're 130 00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:03.720 here to talk about your experiences. But before we get 131 00:06:03.720 --> 00:06:05.399 into that, let's talk about the thing I like to 132 00:06:05.439 --> 00:06:09.160 start with everybody, What in the world got you interested 133 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:11.839 in the subject of bigfoot sasquatch to begin with? 134 00:06:12.439 --> 00:06:14.920 It was my father when I was growing up. My 135 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:18.959 dad always had an interest in bigfoot. I'm a child 136 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:22.360 of the seventies. Jenexer so we would watch Insertia with 137 00:06:22.439 --> 00:06:24.920 the Leonard Nimoy, and we did all these little programs 138 00:06:24.959 --> 00:06:26.720 would come on from time to time and they would 139 00:06:26.759 --> 00:06:29.560 have Bigfoot would be the subject of the program, and 140 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:31.920 so I would watch those things with him. And then 141 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:34.000 he had this really cool book, I think it was 142 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:37.560 a reader's digest book called The Strange Facts and Amazing Fiction. 143 00:06:38.079 --> 00:06:41.519 It had the famous Patterson Gimblin photo in it, and 144 00:06:41.560 --> 00:06:44.319 I just always remember just sitting down looking through those 145 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:47.519 pictures of all the really odd things and just being 146 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:51.360 really drawn to the unexplained. At a young age. It 147 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:53.639 was just always a thing in the background in our family. 148 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:56.560 We're a musical family, and my dad plays guitar and 149 00:06:57.160 --> 00:06:59.759 we would make up songs about Bigfoot and sing them 150 00:06:59.800 --> 00:07:01.879 all time. We were just crazy. It was just always 151 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:05.160 just this thing, this mild interest in the background as 152 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:08.399 I was growing up. And then in two thousand and 153 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:11.959 four we lost my mom that summer and that fall, 154 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:14.120 he came to me and said, I just want you 155 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:16.439 to know that my interest in Bigfoot is still very 156 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:18.920 much alive and well, and I've taken it to the interweb. 157 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:22.439 And at that time, the interwebs were just getting going 158 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:25.360 the information is super highly was just a thing, and 159 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:29.879 he found the Bigfoot Field Researchers organization. Just got really 160 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:33.519 excited about it because of course that's Matt Moneymaker's organization, 161 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:35.920 and he had been on a number of monster programs 162 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:39.120 my father had seen. He said, they teach you how 163 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:41.439 to look for bigfoot. They put on these expeditions all 164 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:43.959 over the country. They teach you how to look for bigfoot. 165 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:47.279 And they're coming to North Georgia in February. And I'm like, no, 166 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:49.759 that's so cool. And I could tell he didn't really 167 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:52.120 want to go by himself, so I said, hey, if 168 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:53.879 you don't want to go by yourself, I will totally 169 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:56.319 go with you because there's probably a ton of weirdos. 170 00:07:56.319 --> 00:07:59.759 That probably the coolest weekend ever. So we ended up 171 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:02.319 having a good time. It happened to be my brother's 172 00:08:02.519 --> 00:08:04.560 birthday weekend, so I guess my dad felt like he 173 00:08:04.560 --> 00:08:06.319 couldn't take me and not take my brother on my 174 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:09.959 brother's birthday weekend, so he took both of us together. 175 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:12.040 We have a younger sister too, but I think she 176 00:08:12.079 --> 00:08:13.879 was still in high school at the time or college 177 00:08:14.120 --> 00:08:15.920 wasn't available, so it was just the two of us. 178 00:08:15.959 --> 00:08:19.360 What was my dad and my brother is a federal agent. 179 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:23.040 He's retired now, very type A type person and just 180 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:25.399 thinks were all nuts, right, And so my dad and 181 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:28.600 I basically ended up ditching my brother and going off 182 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:31.040 and hanging out with Matt Moneymaker and doing some of 183 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:34.399 the expedition activities on our own, and we just had 184 00:08:34.440 --> 00:08:37.519 the best time. We had the nicest, most normal people, 185 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:39.919 which was surprising. I really thought there'd be a lot 186 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:43.519 of weirdos. Their stories were fascinating. A lot of people 187 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:46.720 were there because they'd seen something they couldn't explain, or 188 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:49.919 someone in their family had, and those stories had lingered 189 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:52.519 for a long time and they just wanted answers, so 190 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:55.120 that's what they were there for. It was so fun. 191 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:57.039 We had so much fun that we ended up going 192 00:08:57.080 --> 00:09:00.639 on another expedition right after. It was my dad and 193 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:04.320 my husband that time. It was in eastern North Carolina. 194 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:06.559 We did meet a few weirdos on that Troops put 195 00:09:06.600 --> 00:09:11.000 me again. Just had the best time. Nothing definitive, but 196 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:13.000 it was just cool being out in the woods. I 197 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:15.840 grew up a tomboy. There were woods behind my house. 198 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:18.440 We built forts, we played war games, we did all 199 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:20.320 that growing up so it was just like an extension 200 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:23.240 of my childhood and I loved it so much. We 201 00:09:23.279 --> 00:09:25.600 went to another expedition. It was just my husband and I. 202 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:28.240 My dad couldn't go with us that time. He had 203 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:31.639 a deep sea fishing trip planned. That was the expedition 204 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:35.320 that everything changed for me. We were in West Virginia. 205 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:38.559 There was a group of newbies that kind of went 206 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:40.600 out while all of us went to dinner. One night, 207 00:09:40.720 --> 00:09:44.279 there were three people that were brand new went walking 208 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:47.279 down this trail, I don't know, maybe a quarter mile 209 00:09:47.440 --> 00:09:49.879 or so, and they sat on a rock. It was 210 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:52.480 at nighttime. They sat on a rock out cropping, turned 211 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:55.639 off their lights and just listened. And as they were there, 212 00:09:55.799 --> 00:09:58.440 they started to hear growls. They started to have things 213 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:00.879 thrown at them. It was two guys and a girl, 214 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:02.440 and the girl that was with them was one of 215 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:05.080 the guy's girlfriends and she got really scared, and so 216 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:07.679 they ended up having to come back to camp. But 217 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:09.960 as they came back to camp, we were coming back 218 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:12.639 from dinner, like ten of us, they were just telling 219 00:10:12.679 --> 00:10:14.399 us all about what happened, and so we're all look 220 00:10:14.399 --> 00:10:16.279 at each other and going, let's go back, Let's go 221 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:18.720 up there. So we did. So thirteen of us went 222 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:21.159 back and sat on that rock out cropping, turned out 223 00:10:21.159 --> 00:10:23.200 our lights and just listened and did the same thing, 224 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:26.639 and of course, crickets, nothing happened. They were sitting there 225 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:29.120 thinking about all the reasons why that might be. And 226 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:31.840 I remember discussing with some other people, maybe there's too 227 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:34.039 many of us. They were just three people sitting here, 228 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:36.840 and we've got thirteen people. We got this huge group 229 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:39.159 of people here, so let's maybe split up. So we did. 230 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:41.679 We split up. Half the group went a little further 231 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:44.000 up the trail to hunker down, and then I stayed 232 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:46.799 with the group that remained behind on the rock out cropping. 233 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:49.559 We had radios and we were calling back and forth, 234 00:10:49.639 --> 00:10:52.000 and we had this huge linebacker of a guy in 235 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:54.440 our group that had a Louisville slugger, and he was 236 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:56.679 appointed the tree knocker in our group, and he did 237 00:10:56.720 --> 00:10:59.159 and we radiated and he did some great tree knocks. 238 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:02.399 They were really laugh and the group above us up 239 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:04.639 the trail heard it and they responded, and this went 240 00:11:04.679 --> 00:11:07.600 back and forth for a little bit. Then we started 241 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:10.240 to do a couple of hows back and forth. Right 242 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:12.440 after I don't know, we've probably been doing this for 243 00:11:12.480 --> 00:11:16.799 a little while, maybe fifteen twenty minutes, and then all 244 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:20.960 of a sudden, when this guy hit the tree. Immediately 245 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:25.000 after he did his tree knock, there was this huge 246 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:31.320 how right between the two groups. It was way louder 247 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:33.840 than this guy could have done on his own. The 248 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:36.080 other group immediately radio is back. That wasn't us. That 249 00:11:36.159 --> 00:11:37.799 wasn't us. We didn't do that, like we didn't do 250 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:39.960 it either. Then we decided at that point we would 251 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:43.000 do some hows right after this loud knock. After we 252 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:45.360 did a series of a couple of hows. The only 253 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:48.480 way I can describe it is like a man beast. 254 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:52.360 How it came out of a huge chess covity, and 255 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:55.519 it was up on the ridge behind us, up above 256 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:58.279 both groups, and it just was if you've heard the 257 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:02.240 Ohio how, the famous Ohio how, it was similar to that. 258 00:12:02.840 --> 00:12:07.279 It rose and was sustained and then fell, but it 259 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:09.879 came out of an enormous chest. I don't know how 260 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:12.840 to describe it other than a man beast type. How 261 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:14.600 the hair stood up on the back of my neck. 262 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:18.639 We all had saucer eyes, going, Oh my gosh, it's real, 263 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:22.360 there's something out here. This is crazy. And so from 264 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:25.960 that point on, different things started happening. People were seeing 265 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:29.440 red eyes shine different places, They saw movements that went on. 266 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:32.240 We were there like to well. After midnight was the first freeze. 267 00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:35.000 A lot of us were lie frozen, and so we decided, Okay, 268 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:37.159 we've had enough fun. We're going to go back to camp. 269 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:39.519 A few people remained behind, and a few of the 270 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:43.600 people that remained behind did actually see the shadow of 271 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:47.679 a silhouette doing the classic poken is head behind trees 272 00:12:47.720 --> 00:12:50.039 and stuff like that, so something was there. We estimated 273 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:52.679 there were at least two and maybe three all around 274 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:55.120 us that night. That was the first time I knew, Okay, 275 00:12:55.159 --> 00:12:59.440 this is not just people curious about the unknown. There 276 00:12:59.480 --> 00:13:03.159 really is something here. So from there I cooked. I 277 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:07.519 started doing investigations for that organization for a time. I 278 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:10.519 started interviewing a lot of people who had eyewitness sightings 279 00:13:10.679 --> 00:13:14.799 and just again found them completely fascinating. I started going 280 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:18.480 on more and more expeditions. Later, I started helping to 281 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:21.720 organize some expeditions, and then I started branching out and 282 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:24.000 going all over the country. I had a friend of 283 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:26.440 mine that got in it with me, and she was 284 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:29.360 from Oklahoma, so we started going out to Oklahoma and 285 00:13:29.440 --> 00:13:32.399 places in Texas and stuff like that to do some expeditions. 286 00:13:32.519 --> 00:13:36.279 Again met the coolest people ever. In the course of that, 287 00:13:36.639 --> 00:13:40.600 going out to Arkansas and Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, we met 288 00:13:40.679 --> 00:13:44.440 the guy from Louisiana who fancied himself some Marketer and Brander, 289 00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:46.720 and he had seen some of the videos that my 290 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:48.639 friend and I had put up on YouTube, because again 291 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:52.559 you got to remember, this was brand new the internet, YouTube, Facebook, 292 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:55.120 all that was just barely a thing. People weren't even 293 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:57.679 really using it, and so we had put up a 294 00:13:57.720 --> 00:14:00.679 couple of videos just for funzies of us being out 295 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:02.480 in the woods and stuff. This guy has seen this 296 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:04.600 elevant and said do you really should brand this? People 297 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:07.639 would watch it and we're like, oh nah, whatever. Long 298 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:10.960 story short, he made a Facebook cover for us and 299 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:13.080 it was both of us standing back to back wearing 300 00:14:13.080 --> 00:14:15.600 black leather jackets in a different context. But he put 301 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:18.720 it up against these dark, scary woods and then on 302 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:21.840 the left side in bright pig and said coming fall 303 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:25.440 twenty twelve bigfoot chicks. He created it as a joke, 304 00:14:25.519 --> 00:14:27.720 and so I put it up on my Facebook profile. 305 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:32.919 True story. Within twenty four hours. Everybody who was anybody 306 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:37.360 who had a Bigfoot blog, talk radio show, or any 307 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:41.159 sort of podcast, any sort of block talk TV. Those 308 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:44.120 were real posar back then. When first got started, they 309 00:14:44.159 --> 00:14:46.639 all wanted interviews. They were calling us for interviews. So 310 00:14:47.240 --> 00:14:50.840 we became skycrocketed to the front of the Bigfoot Sandbox 311 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:53.600 pretty much overnight. So that opened up a lot of 312 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:56.720 opportunities for me to meet a lot of different kinds 313 00:14:56.720 --> 00:14:59.440 of investigators and from different parts of the country, and 314 00:14:59.480 --> 00:15:02.200 to go all over and meet even more people, work 315 00:15:02.240 --> 00:15:06.000 on some film projects, auditioned for some reality shows, all 316 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:08.679 the different things. It's just skyrocketed. So that's where I 317 00:15:08.799 --> 00:15:11.919 ended up. Then I ended up starting my own marketing business. 318 00:15:12.440 --> 00:15:14.559 About eight years ago. I took a little bit of 319 00:15:14.559 --> 00:15:17.480 a sabbatical. I never truly fell out of the interest 320 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:19.639 of wanting to do it, but I went silent for 321 00:15:19.639 --> 00:15:22.080 a little while and was focusing on my business. But 322 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:24.200 always every chance I got, I was still going out 323 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:26.759 to go squatching with anybody and everybody who wanted because 324 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:29.320 having so much fun with it. Whenever I got a chance. 325 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:31.679 And just in the last couple of years, I'm in 326 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:33.879 a good place with my business and all the things 327 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:35.840 that I'm doing, and I just really I love it 328 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:41.399 so much, and I just started to get back into it. 329 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:41.759 And stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to see. We'll 330 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:43.720 be right back after these messages. 331 00:15:47.759 --> 00:15:51.080 So I joined the Seekers group, the Seekers SEKRS, which 332 00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:54.720 is a Southeastern Encrypted Research Society. It's an honor tribute 333 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:57.840 group for Bob Wilson, who saw a lot of people 334 00:15:57.879 --> 00:16:01.120 know is Grumpy from the Shooting big Foot show. Great guy, 335 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:03.679 great guy, and so this is a group in his honor, 336 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:08.840 and we basically investigate all forms of high strangeness. It's 337 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:11.799 awesome people, We have so much fun. And then through 338 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:15.080 that group I got to know Greg Ogels was invited 339 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:18.559 to be a part of the Relic Films team and 340 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:23.960 cheat documentaries about high strangeness, Bigfoot, their normal, all kinds 341 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:26.000 of things. And so that kind of brings us to 342 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:28.080 where we are today and how I ended up beating you. 343 00:16:28.519 --> 00:16:31.000 Let's get into some of the experiences. You know a 344 00:16:31.039 --> 00:16:33.240 lot of people. I know you're being very humble right now, 345 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:36.639 you're being typical Melissa, but you know just about everybody 346 00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:37.279 there is. 347 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:39.080 To know in the Bigfoot community. 348 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:41.279 And you've been out with tons of researchers, and you've 349 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:43.879 had tons of experiences, so let's get back into the 350 00:16:43.960 --> 00:16:46.320 experience part of it. This thing tends to do one 351 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:49.080 of two things. People have an experience and they're like, oh, nope, 352 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:51.519 that's good. I'm not wanting to get any more of that. 353 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:55.360 I'm out, I'm done, or it does what seems like 354 00:16:55.399 --> 00:16:57.559 what happened to you and me and many other people 355 00:16:57.559 --> 00:17:00.879 in this the bug bites you and want more and 356 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:03.600 more experiences, so you keep going out. Let's talk about 357 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:05.079 some of the times you spend a lot of time 358 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:06.759 out in the woods with a ton of different people. 359 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:08.839 I know it's tough, you've had a ton of experiences, 360 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:10.799 but let's go back into some of those experiences that 361 00:17:10.839 --> 00:17:12.960 you've had over the years going out and looking for 362 00:17:13.039 --> 00:17:14.960 these things, and let's talk about some of the things 363 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:15.720 that have happened to you. 364 00:17:16.119 --> 00:17:19.519 Okay, there's an experience that I've shelved and I haven't 365 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:22.480 talked about a whole lot on podcasts. I think I've 366 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:24.640 only shared it one other time, So this will be new, 367 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:26.799 and the reasons for that is because I just didn't 368 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:28.279 know what to make of it. I've had more and 369 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:32.000 more experiences now I have a really good idea of 370 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:34.839 what I think it might be. I was out bigfooting 371 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:37.559 with friends, and I was in North Georgia, and it 372 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:41.000 was in a place that has a history of bigfoot sidings. 373 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:43.920 I was on a trailhead. There were a bunch of 374 00:17:43.960 --> 00:17:46.000 people spread out. So there was a place that you 375 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:48.519 like a parking lot, for this trailhead to climb up 376 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:51.319 the mountain. We were spread out. Some people were in 377 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:53.000 the parking lot, some people were on the edges of 378 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:56.880 the parking lot, and me and my friend Kimberly, who 379 00:17:57.160 --> 00:17:59.559 was my best friend growing up. She passed away a 380 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:01.440 few years, but she was with me. She thought it 381 00:18:01.480 --> 00:18:02.920 was so cool that I looked for bigfoot and she 382 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:04.880 always wanted to go. So I took her with me. 383 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:08.240 And then I was with another one of my bigfoot buddies, Keith, 384 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:11.519 and so me, Kimberly and Keith decided to climb partially 385 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:14.240 up this mountain so that we could have that vantage 386 00:18:14.279 --> 00:18:17.960 point with everybody spread out beneath us. We had radios. 387 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:20.000 You would do the standard kind of thing that a 388 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:22.400 lot of groups do. We just hunker down and listen 389 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:25.240 for a while. We might do woodknocks, we might do 390 00:18:25.319 --> 00:18:27.559 a call here and there just to see. We were 391 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:31.359 up on this rock out cropping and Keith goes, I 392 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:34.240 think I see a light down there. It looks place 393 00:18:34.359 --> 00:18:36.640 moving and I said, oh, yeah, there's a street light 394 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:39.440 on the other side. And so when the wind's blowing, 395 00:18:39.480 --> 00:18:42.119 it looks like it looks like a light is moving 396 00:18:42.119 --> 00:18:43.759 because I know what you're talking about, because I've seen 397 00:18:43.799 --> 00:18:47.359 that because I've been in this area numerous times. He 398 00:18:47.440 --> 00:18:49.359 kept watching it. He's like, I don't know, Melissa, I 399 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:51.359 think it's actually moving. I'm like, well, keep watching it. 400 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:54.680 Just keep watching. He did. So we were talking and 401 00:18:54.680 --> 00:18:56.839