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Speaker 1: You are now listening to the Big Ten Paradigm podcast

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here on the College Gridiron Coast to Coast Podcast Network.

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Please welcome in Noah Drury's We covered the Big Ten

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throughout this whole entire twenty twenty five college football season,

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and welcome into this edition of the Big Ten Paradigm

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Hack the Week four recap and also look at the

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schedule in the Week five of Big Ten. But we

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will recap this past weekend and all the action that

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happened because there were some pretty good games on the agenda,

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one that was super late on a Saturday for the

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Michigan State Spartans and USC Trojans, but also you know

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the Big ten of Week four, Friday night, we had

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Iowa versus Rutgers. And the one thing watching this game

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back I caught a little bit of it on Friday,

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but was working a different event. So I went back

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and watched this game, and I wall they looked a

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lot better. Early in the game, Mark Ronowski made a

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couple of great throws that were twenty thirty yards down

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the field, and it's like, so Tim Lester is trying

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to open up this offense for Iowa, which you don't

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really see with an Iowa team, And look, they tried

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to get their skilled guys involved. Caden Wetgen. He was

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able to return a kickoff for a touchdown to open

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up the game, which really kind of set the tone

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in this game. And look, I was scored thirty eight points,

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Rutgers scored twenty eight. Rutgers. On the defensive side, we

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kind of saw this when they played Ohio, is that

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their defense might not be completely sound in the sense

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that you know, typically a Greg Ciano teams are pretty

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sound defensively, and with Rutgers the season, I don't know

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if that's gonna be the case. Uh, and I don't.

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I mean, it's their first loss of the season, but

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in non conference play. I mean, you played Ohio, Miami,

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Ohio in Norfolk State. They do him Minnesota next week,

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which Minnesota is gonna be coming off a bye after

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they're loss to Cal. It's Cal just lost to San

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Diego State thirty four to nothing. So everything I said

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great about Sega patel a, I don't know if that's

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completely the case. But he's also a freshman, so got

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to take that into account. But I mean Cali commanis

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he threw the ball well, he was really trying to

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push it down the field. Ian Strong had a strong

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performance and word play there anyways, but a receptions one

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hundred and fifty one yards on about nineteen yards per reception,

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and then also Antoine Raymond was able to run it

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in for two scores along with caliac Manus. But I

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will like, look, they're not particularly an amazing group. They

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do play I or excuse me, they play Indiana at

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home next week, which you're gonna like. When we talked

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to mister Browning later, this is a great conversation in

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the sense that you know, Indiana looked phenomenal yesterday and

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I'm gonna, well, we're gonna dive deep more into this later.

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I'll just bring it up briefly. Indiana wins sixty three

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to ten over Illinois. Illinois falls down. We'll also take

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a look at the EP Top twenty five poll that

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came out. But in the sense of, look, dude, Fernando

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a top four quarterback in this upcoming draft class. The

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kids just so poised three incompletions in his last two games.

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kind of not coming into their own this season across

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the college football universe, not just in the Big Ten,

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but in all of college football. He's been very impressive

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in one of the quarterbacks that has been able to

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step up and kind of just prove his mark. And look,

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they're gonna play a good Iowa not a good Iowa defense,

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but a solid Iowa defense. But I think their real

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test comes on October eleventh, Oregon, so I will be

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very intrigued to see that game. The next big game,

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we'll move on to Michigan in Nebraska. I don't know

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if Michigan technically has it all figured out yet, but

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when you're able to average nine point four yards of

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carry and get almost three hundred yards on the ground

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passing wise, it's just not really gonna matter at all

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at all. Justice Haynes seventeen carries one hundred and forty

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nine yards, one touchdown, Jordan Barshall had a big breakaway touchdown,

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and then also Bryce Underwood was able to scramble out

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of the pocket and get a touchdown. And when we

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were able to dominate on a ground versus a Nebraska

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team that you know Dylan Riola, he looked good yesterday

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and when we talked with Connor Happer last week, like

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Riola is one of those quarterbacks. Now he's not eligible

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to go to the draft. I don't know if he

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would even if he was anyways, but I mean thirty

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of forty one he did throw an interception, but three

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hundred yards and three touchdowns like he looked. But other

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than em at Johnson, which he didn't play particularly great,

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they weren't able to really get anything going on the

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ground game. And I think with Michigan getting seven sacks

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and nine TFLs, really applying that pressure and being able

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to get through the gaps, it's it made Nebraska's life hard.

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I thought Nebraska really had the momentum going forward in

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that game. But I think the difference was just on

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the lines of scrimmage of this game. Michigan was better

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on the defensive side than Nebraska was on the offense.

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In Michigan's pass rush was something that really came into

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question after the first couple of games, and look, Waint Martindale,

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he's gonna send pressure, He's gonna send five, six, seven

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guys sometimes, and there they were able to feast on

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Nebraska and Michigan. They don't play next week. They will

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take on Wisconsin, which I don't know what to think

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of Wisconsin anymore. And then but I mean US Seas

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on the schedule, and then Ohio State. You avoid Indiana,

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they fit. You avoid Penn State, you avoid Oregon like

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you played. You played Nebraska and beat them too, And

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that was one of the tests coming into the season.

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So it'll be interesting to see how this team gets

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tested throughout more and more each week. But that's an

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impressive victory. And that Oklahoma loss, I mean, Oklahoma moved

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up seven in an AP pole. And whether you think

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the AP pole is a legitimate way of seeing how

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good a team is or not, or if you're more

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power ratings or you make your own rankings or you know,

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listen to a different side of rakings, whatever, Oklahoma is

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going to measure as a good team. And you know what,

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you took a loss with a freshman QB his second

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collegiate game ever as a freshman, an eighteen year old

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who's freshly eighteen. By the way, it's not like he's

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like he's still got a lot of time to develop.

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the end of the season and find yourself in a

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college football playoff spot. Who knows the next game Maryland Wisconsin.

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Malik Washington talking about freshman quarterbacks, he was really good yesterday.

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He had that throw that was a deep post route

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for a touchdown. But I mean he played consistent throughout

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the whole entire game. He has a reliable target in

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Octavion Smith junior, who did really well. I didn't know

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Julia for Rouke was on this team either until yesterday's broadcast.

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I haven't watched too much Maryland other than some cutups

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this season, but just because like I really didn't know

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what to think of this team to come into the year.

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To be quite frank with all of you, I like

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I knew about Malik Washington and like, oh, this kid's

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gonna actually be a big deal, and like probably after

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his freshman season he's gonna transfer it. I don't know

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if that's going to be true, if he does or doesn't,

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but all I know is he's he's a good football player.

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They didn't really get anything going on the ground against

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Wisconsin either. They were able to apply pressure to the

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quarterbacks that played for Wisconsin. Billy Aldboard started out the game,

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got hurt and Wisconsin's big problem right now is they're

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just not able to run the ball. And it's so

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weird to say that the Badgers who have been this

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great dominant on the ground program with running backs like

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James White, Melvin Gordon, Jonathan Taylor, like a bunch of

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different running backs for this team, even Braylan Allen as

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of recent like, it's weird. It's weird to say that

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Wisconsin can't run the football. And I don't know if

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it's an identity crisis, is because Louf Fickle wanted to

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make this program more of an air raid team and

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you know, play in the modern style of college football,

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but that's just not Wisconsin, Okay. With the areas that

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they recruit and the talent that they get, they got

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to be a ground and pound. Not saying that they

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can't throw the ball or they can't develop receiver talent,

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but you're you want to stick with your program identity.

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I mean, look at Iowa. While they haven't had any

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postseason success per se, they have been a really solid

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foundational program and sometimes that's all you need to please

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your fans, and you know, eventually you might be able

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to make that push when all the cards align, especially

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at the transfer bortal and being able to pay players

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like you can cash in on your success. And I

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think Wisconsin can be one of those programs in the

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Big Ten, but not right now, not with who's at

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the helm this season. And it'll be interesting to see

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if Luke Fickle's gonna finish this season out. They'll play

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Michigan in two weeks. They have a bye this week,

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and then they'll play Iowa, Ohio State, Oregon, Washington, Indiana, Illinois.

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That is a rough stretch for a Badger's team that

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if they don't make a bowl game, I mean, it

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could be very ugly. They finished with Minnesota at the

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end of the year two, which I think they could

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be a win, but this I would put this team

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on quit watch. I don't know if they're gonna play hard,

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especially with the tough schedule coming up. Like they could

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win theoretically versus Iowa. I don't think that's out of

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the question or cards for that to happen. And then

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Ohio State and Oregon back to back. I mean, look,

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those are two really tough games. And then Washington and

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the Apple Cup yesterday, While like Washington State hung around,

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Demon Williams is a freaking beast sixteen to nineteen two

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ninety eight, almost sixteen yards per attempt in four touchdowns

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and also being able to get eighty eight on the

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ground in a touchdown with Jonah Coleman with him in

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the backfield. I mean, that's just gonna be a recipe

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for success. They looked really good yesterday throwing it out

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through the air. Defensively, it's a little concerning that I

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don't know how good they are gonna be in coverage

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or really they They were able to stop the ground

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game from Washington State, but it's typically an air raid team.

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I know only I don't have our buckle or dicker anymore.

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to actually legitimately be tested because Colorado State, UC Davis

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and Washington State aren't gonna test you. But hey, they

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have Ohio State next week, which we'll break down that matchup,

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and then one more game I wanted to get to,

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Like Oregon beat Oregon State forty one to seven. Whoopty doodue.

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Notre Dame did beat Purdue fifty six to thirty. Purdue

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might be a fun team to watch this year. They

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run a lot of different trick orations in their offense.

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And look, uh, Ryan Brown, he's gonna he's gonna play

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quarterback for this team. I don't know how great he

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will be. They also try to use mcobe and Singleton

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throwing around the ball a little bit. And look, I

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think Purdue's on a lot better spot than they were

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ever in the Ryan Walters tenure. I don't know how.

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I don't know how low of b bar that is.

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But like, I mean, Notre Dame look good. CJ. Carr

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look phenomenal. Jeremiah Love was able to run all over

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the field, and hey, Notre Dame picks up their first

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win of the season. They'll play Arkansas, who just took

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a loss to Memphis in a close game that they

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shouldn't have lost. But that's besides the point. I like,

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I was watching that game. It was on the lower

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left side of I mentioned the quad box that you know,

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I watch a lot of games on. But yeah, I

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mean they it was There's a lot of offense, and

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you know what, Perdu like they can get the four

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or five wins, they could be good bye week Illinois, Minnesota, Northwestern, Rutgers, Like,

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there's a chance I don't know if a bowl game,

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but four or five wins set this program in the

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right direction. They won't have to take in eighty new players. Sorry,

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my throat keeps getting clogged up. And then Michigan State USC.

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I mentioned that late night game. USC just simply dominated

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on the line of SCRIMMAGEIM seven TfL's two sacks, but

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they were really able to push Michigan State around. Michigan

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State couldn't generate any pressure. No tackles for a loss

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in that game. Keep that in mind, no tackles for

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loss in the game. And Joe Rossi was supposed to

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be this great defensive mind. He had a lot of

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success coaching defensively at Minnesota before he transitioned over to

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the defensive coordinator at Michigan State. And I'm like, hey,

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maybe we'll have a good defense, because the tenure before

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not good at defense at all. Even in the state

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or the season twenty twenty one, Michigan State was good.

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They still ranked like in the one hundred and thirtieth

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in past defense, Like they were not good. And you

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remember when CJ. Stroud and all those receivers did to us. Yeah,

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that was which, to be fair, they did that to

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a lot of teams, but especially aust Wind. We were

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a top ten ranked team. I mean that just was embarrassing.

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Jane Mayeva, he might be a legitimate Heisman candidate. Waymon

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Jordan is the running back. They didn't want what he

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marks what he mars went to the draft and then

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Quentin Joyners now on Texas Tech and Waymon Jordan, dude,

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he makes his way through the field. That's all. That's

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all I know. He was a Juco product actually that

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transferred over to USC, and they really liked him and

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he's been phenomenal. McKay lemon had a huge game. Yeahs

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USC looks pretty good offensively. I was very impressed with

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the play of Aidan Chiles, even though he wasn't the

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most accurate. At the end, he started throwing some deeper bombs.

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He had that nice touchdown pass to Amari Kelly and yeah, look,

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I mean we were able to do some stuff on

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the ground. I see we. I do this every week.

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We it's it's Michigan State, not we. I'm not affiliated

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with the team. I just watched him as a fan.

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Like Makai Fraser did a decent job. And look, I

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don't know where this team does finish. We have Nebraska

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as our next game after the bye week, than UCLA,

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which should be a winm and then Indiana Michigan. Like,

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I think I'll see where this team is around Nebraska,

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because USC could also be a very very solid team

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in the Big Ten. I don't know if they're a

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college football playoff team, but yeah, I don't know. It's

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kind of like a trial and air process for USC.

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Coming up. They will take on Illinois next week. That

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will be big noon, and then Michigan, Notre Dame Nebraska.

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That's a tough four game stretch that they're gonna have

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to be prepared for. But Zach Browning is going to

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join us here on the Big Ten paradigm coming up next.

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So yeah, let's go have that conversation about right now

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and welcome back here on the Big Ten Paradigm. I

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have a special guest joining me from Hoosierville down in Bloomington, Indiana,

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Zach Browning. Zach, talk a little bit about yourself, what

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you do and why you do love doing it well.

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Speaker 2: I am a senior at Indiana University. Noah, thank you

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so much for having me. First off, I am a

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writer for the Hoosier dot Com, which is Indiana's on

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three outlet on three site, I guess you could call it.

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I also do some play by place. I'm broadcasting as

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well for IU student radio station as well as Big

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ten Plus, which is the kind of ESPN plus equivalent

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of Big ten Network. So keeping myself busy down here

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in Bloomington, and I just love doing it. I love

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telling stories, So I love being around the game of sports,

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whether it's basketball, football, base or whatever it is. I

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just love being around sports, and I love talking about him,

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writing about him. So I'm in the perfect field.

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Speaker 1: Well as working for Indiana University as long as being

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a student one, you're very busy. But so you got

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to witness a very very uh fifty three point victory

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yesterday that the Hoosiers tuck. I wanted to start off

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with Fernando Mendoza. He was someone that I really liked

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when he played at Cal last year and watching you

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know those after dark games, which Michigan State had an

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after dark game, yes ironically, and everyone knows that listens

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to the show that I'm a big sparty guy. I

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talk in a wi when I really shouldn't be. But

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you know, it's a team that I root for. But

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I want to talk about Fernando Mendoza and his performance

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yesterday and kind of just how he's been all season,

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kind of just described from your point of view. You know,

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you being at these games, watching this team super intently,

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what has really impressed you about this kid so far?

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Speaker 2: He's just so intelligent the way he sees the game.

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He's a perfectionist. He strives, he wants to be perfect

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each and every week. And it was funny we were

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talking to him after the game last night or on

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Saturday night, after the Illinois game, he goes, what was it,

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twenty one for twenty three, two d and sixty seven

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yards and five touchdowns. Yeah, and without anybody even asking,

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without any of us asking, you know, what you want

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to work on or what you want to get better

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on or anything like that, he brings up himself his

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two incompletions and how he feels like he has to

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do better on those two specific throws. He's got to

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get back in the film room and iron out those kinks.

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Dude went twenty one for twenty three over his last

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two games, dating back to the Indiana State game in

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Week three. He's doing three in completions. He's forty for

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his last forty three passing the football, and it's just

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the ability to throw the football. I mean, it's simple,

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but he's just got so much arm town and I

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know that's a little bit of a buzzword these days,

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but he really can make some special throws. I was

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talking to a national writer for the NFL Draft, a

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Sports Illustrated National Football League Draft guy last night, and

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I didn't even have to get the entire question out.

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I was basically going to ask, you know, your thoughts

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on Fernando Mendoza as far as an NFL prospect goes,

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And he said he will be a riser this week.

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And he is one of those guys that really helped

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his case this week, and he showed it against the

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top ten team. And I think it's really impressive what

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he was able to do last night and what he's

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been able to do all season. Fourteen touchdowns to no

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interceptions this season, being able to take care of the ball,

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being able to spread the ball out evenly, is not

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relying on just one wide receiver. It's been mallt different guys,

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and he is playing like a guy that'll be a

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first round draft pick in next years in a fel draft.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when he entered the transfer portal, I thought he

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was someone that's like, why is not like I know,

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I didn't really know where Indiana was going to project

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on the season coming in. I thought they were going

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to be, you know, fighting anywhere in like that fourth

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to seventh spot in terms of a team, which they

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might be higher. Now I like him more than a

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Penn State at this point, But what I was like,

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I was thinking, like, why is he not getting more

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buzz in more hype, like been big ten focused podcasts

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and like media were like, oh, yeah, you know Fernando Mendozo,

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like he might be an upgrade from Curtis Work, even

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though Curtis Work did his job last season. Then ask

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him to do that much. He raises the ceiling of

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this Indiana offense, not only in the passing game, but

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I mean his ability to extend plays and get outside

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the pocket. Like that's one of the things I really

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was impressed with him as cal Is. He was getting

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out of the pocket, he was making jump passes, he

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was doing like a bunch of different things that like

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you would see from a day one, day two prospect

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in the NFL draft, and with not there, with not

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very many quarterbacks and pressing us so far, he might

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be a guy that might be the second or third

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QB taking off the board. I think him and Sawyer

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Robertson out of Baylor the two biggest risers going into

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this draft process so far.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, after you look at a guy like

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the Noora Sellers, there's not He's might be the consensus

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top quarterback right now in the NFL draft. But for

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Nano Mendoza, he's got to be right there. And you

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talk about kind of the jump throws and that kind

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of exotic stuff at Cal, there was a play in

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that Illinois game where he got pressured. It wasn't necessarily

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the pocket collapse, but he went through all of his raids,

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rolled out to his left, and there was a situation

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there's a receiver out on the boundary, out on the

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sideline five fish yards downfield, there's a quarterback on him,

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a defensive back on him. Mendoza's rolling out left. He

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can either run for the first down or he can

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kind of he's gonna likely run for the first down.

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It's like third and three or third and four or something.

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Like that thunder sucks in collapses on Mendoza, and Mendoza

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like side arm flips it out to the receiver for

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like a six to seven yard game in a first down.

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And that's the type of NFL improvisation that he has

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shown and has in his bag. I think that is

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one of those things that really stood out to me

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last night. I turned to the guy that was sitting

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next to him and he we just stared at each

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other for a couple of minutes. It was like, Wow,

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that is a type of play that an NFL first

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round guy makes. That's a special play. You see that

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play on Sundays and it was Saturday night when we

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saw that one from Mendoza. But he is a special talent,

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and I think the way he reads the game is

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so special as well. Churse Netti talked about it even

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after the game. He's like, he's just such a smart guy.

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He's such a good person. And the way that he

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reads the game and the things that Indiana can do

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with him, as far as getting to a fourth and

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fifth grade or running exotic plays and doing things like that,

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it's just something that not many offensive coordinators, not many

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head coaches had the luxury of being able to do

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with their quarterbacks at the level. He is just so cerebral.

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He understands the game, he understands his reads on each

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and every play, and he's just so smart. And that's

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even just a side from the obvious talent that he

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ooses with.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to transition into the front seven. So some

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notable stats. There's forty four tackles in this game, right

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and ten of them are TFLs and seven of them

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are sacks. Their front seven was something as a point

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of strength coming into this season, and it looks like

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they continue to improve on This group is just I mean,

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Luke Altmeyer did not have a good time yesterday, and

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while he didn't look impressive, neither did his offensive line.

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And keep in mind, this is an Illinois group that

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is like all senior led on the offensive line kind

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of just elaborate. You know, what is some of the

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special like I guess play calls or just schematically like

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what makes this defense in the front seven so impressive?

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Speaker 2: I think it really starts with Brian Haynes. He's the

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defensive coordinator, and Indiana new going into the game that

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there was a chance they could get pressure I mean,

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the film from that Duke Illinois game was pretty evident.

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Duke was able to get pressure on Luke Altmeyer. He's

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not super mobile, he's not super evasive in that pocket.

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So INDI NFLT confident they could get pressure on alt

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Meyer on Saturday night, and that's exactly what they did.

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And it wasn't necessarily just getting pressure with four guys

474
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,440
rushing their quarterback. There actually wasn't a lot of pressure

475
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,119
when Indiana just brought four guys. But when Brian Haynes

476
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,279
dialed up some pressure, brought in some linebackers, brought in

477
00:25:29,319 --> 00:25:32,400
some guys off the edge from that cornerback spot, that's

478
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,599
when Indiana kind of raked have it. And something that

479
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,039
we've seen so far this year is Mikyle Kamara, who

480
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,279
preseason All American told us before the season he wants

481
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,279
twenty sacks. He's only got one through the first four

482
00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:46,359
weeks of the season. But I think that's a byproduct

483
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,319
of teams, and we saw with Illinois they're sending two

484
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:54,160
guys plus maybe a running back Kamara's way. He's drawing

485
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,240
so much attention and even on the opposite side of

486
00:25:56,279 --> 00:25:59,359
the line too. Stephen Daley Kell and White. They're drawing

487
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,359
so much tension at the edge spots Indiana from a

488
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:07,079
pass rushing standpoint, it's allowed the defensive tackles Mario Landino

489
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,160
Tyrek Tucker, two defensive tackles for Indiana have combined for

490
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,680
six sacks already this season through four weeks. And those

491
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,839
are two guys that weren't necessarily expected to contribute that

492
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,480
much in the pass rushing game. So I think the

493
00:26:19,599 --> 00:26:24,119
attention that a guy like Kamara Garner's is leaving up

494
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,480
so many opportunities and opening up so many opportunities for

495
00:26:27,599 --> 00:26:30,119
some of these other guys on Indiana's defense, specifically the

496
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,319
defensive line. Isaiah Jones has been a revelation for Indiana

497
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,240
this week or this year really in the linebacking room.

498
00:26:36,279 --> 00:26:39,759
He's been fantastic coming down. It's the blitzes, it's the

499
00:26:39,759 --> 00:26:43,119
funkiness of kind of the Indiana defensive pass run. And

500
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,960
I think one thing I'll hit on too, Bryant Haynes.

501
00:26:46,279 --> 00:26:49,519
He wants his defense to be aggressive. Yes, he wants

502
00:26:49,559 --> 00:26:52,400
them to be sound from a gap standpoint. He wants

503
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,000
them to make sure their rush fits and their pass

504
00:26:55,079 --> 00:26:58,240
rush fits are sound, and they're sticking to those, but

505
00:26:58,319 --> 00:27:01,119
he has no problem with a who is supposed to

506
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,880
keep contained on the outside if he sees an opportunity.

507
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,480
If Kamara has the opportunity to make a spin move

508
00:27:06,599 --> 00:27:08,400
or a swim move inside and beat his guy and

509
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,640
get to the quarterback, Brian Hayes has no problem with

510
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,799
that guy leaving his gap or leaving his run fit,

511
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,880
so to speak, to try and make a play. And

512
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,440
I think that's what makes us Indiana defense a little

513
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,480
bit special coming into the week. They were number one

514
00:27:20,519 --> 00:27:23,519
according to Pro Football Focus, and the havoc rate is

515
00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:25,960
what it's called, and that showed on Saturday night. This

516
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,119
is a defense that wants to get after the quarterback

517
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,559
and that's what they did against Luke Altmeyer in Illinois.

518
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think getting of a quarterback like Altmeyer,

519
00:27:33,839 --> 00:27:35,720
you know, someone wants to say poise, wants to stay

520
00:27:35,759 --> 00:27:38,839
in the pocket, you know, make reeds at all three levels,

521
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,680
and Indiana kind of just disrupted that. Not to mention

522
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,519
the Indiana defensive back room really led by Di'angelo Ponds,

523
00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:47,400
who was someone that I was impressed with last year,

524
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,599
ended up recovering a punt blocked punt for a touchdown

525
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,200
and really just this whole group defensively kind of just

526
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,799
took Illinois out of this game. A couple other stats

527
00:27:57,839 --> 00:28:00,960
I wanted to point out there. It was three hundred

528
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,359
and twelve rushing yards on the game. I feel like

529
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,200
that's something that kind of just went unnoticed. But I mean,

530
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,839
it's really a three headed monster back there with Kobe Martin,

531
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,160
Kaylon Black, and Roman Hemby. And Kaylan Black was someone

532
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,240
that I really liked coming into the season, and these

533
00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:18,319
other two guys are really stepping up and weren't really

534
00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:21,839
on my radar all that much. I know the offensive

535
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,160
line was pushing them around good and held good blocks

536
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,160
on the run and pass game all game, But what

537
00:28:29,319 --> 00:28:32,079
is it like for a quarterback of Mendoza's talent to

538
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:36,000
have such a strong supporting running game against an Illinois defense. Now,

539
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,480
I know Gabe Jackis was on the sideline for most

540
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,279
of the game. I know there was that targeting call,

541
00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:44,720
but regardless, still, I mean, the average six point four

542
00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:47,799
yards to carry against an Illinois defense that is supposed

543
00:28:47,799 --> 00:28:49,680
to be pretty sound. What does that mean for this

544
00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:50,440
Indiana group.

545
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,319
Speaker 2: It's hard to put into words what it means because

546
00:28:54,359 --> 00:28:57,720
this is now the fourth consecutive game for Indiana rushing

547
00:28:57,759 --> 00:29:00,759
for over three hundred yards. And obviously first three games

548
00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:04,079
were non conference games, ode U, Kanisas State, and Indiana State,

549
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,440
so you can maybe take those numbers with a grain

550
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,839
of salt. But to come in against the number nine

551
00:29:08,839 --> 00:29:10,680
team in the country and rush for three hundred and

552
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,039
twelve yards, and again, maybe some of that is due

553
00:29:13,079 --> 00:29:14,480
to the fact that there was a lot of running

554
00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:16,599
late in that third quarter and in that fourth quarter

555
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,920
because Indiana was up by three, four, five, six, course

556
00:29:20,319 --> 00:29:22,960
late in that second half. But I think it speaks

557
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,440
to the offensive line. Even dating back to last year.

558
00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:28,160
It's one of those situations where no matter who the

559
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,839
running back is or who the running back has been,

560
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,200
Indiana has had success on the ground, which to me

561
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,759
that speaks to the offensive line, because the offensive line

562
00:29:37,759 --> 00:29:40,279
for the most part has stayed the same outside of

563
00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:43,559
center and right tackle. So if you can consistently no

564
00:29:43,599 --> 00:29:46,440
matter the running back, whether it's Roman Hemby who was

565
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,039
an All Big Ten honorable mention at Maryland, or whether

566
00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:51,279
it's Kaylon Black who had a great year last year

567
00:29:51,359 --> 00:29:53,359
in Indiana, or even it's a red shirt freshman in

568
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,160
Kobe Martin who coming into the year was number four

569
00:29:56,279 --> 00:29:58,200
on the running back depth chart, and now after an

570
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,559
injury to lead Bebe has been thrust to slightly a

571
00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:04,960
slightly higher workload. No matter who it is, Indiana's having

572
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,440
success on the ground and it's a testament to the

573
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,279
offensive line and not just the offensive line the Titans

574
00:30:10,319 --> 00:30:13,200
as well. Riley Nowakowski he had a forty three I

575
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,640
think yard touchdown catch on Saturday, but he was in

576
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,599
Week three named Indiana's offensive Player of the Week for

577
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,920
his work he did as a run blocker at the

578
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,759
tight end spot, and I think that's something we saw

579
00:30:24,759 --> 00:30:27,079
a lot last year with Indiana. Was Zach Horton. He

580
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,079
was asked to do a lot of run blocking and

581
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,759
Riley Nowakowski, I mean, he was a former fullback at Wisconsin,

582
00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:34,960
and if you're going to be a fullback at Wisconsin,

583
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,720
you have to be able to run block a little bit.

584
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,359
And he is showing that this year so far at Indiana,

585
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,200
this offensive line has done wonders. There was a quote

586
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,160
last year I think it was Justice Ellison, who's now

587
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,680
an assistant, a graduate assistant or something along those lines

588
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:51,759
with Indiana in the running back department. He said there

589
00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:54,400
was something he had another day where he rushed like

590
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,640
one hundred and fifty yards and he was asked, you

591
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,279
know what it's like running behind an offensive line like

592
00:30:59,319 --> 00:31:01,599
Indiana has. They said it was like the Red Sea

593
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,759
parting every time he got the ball. That's kind of

594
00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:05,839
the set. That's kind of the gist that you get

595
00:31:05,839 --> 00:31:08,640
from these Indiana running backs. They're thankful, they understand for

596
00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:11,599
random and those understands that they provide them time. The

597
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,400
offensive line really cannot be The impact they have cannot

598
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,119
be overstated, because that is part of the reason Indiana

599
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,079
is able to have so much success is the play

600
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,400
of the offensive line, both in the run end pass game.

601
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: I also wanted a note I looked because I remember,

602
00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:29,839
you know, I watched the first quarter kind of like

603
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,720
here and there I was doing, so I came back

604
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,079
from dinner and was kind of paying attention. After the

605
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,160
last punt in the first quarter, Indiana scored every time

606
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,240
they touched the ball until the end of the game

607
00:31:41,599 --> 00:31:43,799
is fourteen to seven, and they ended up scoring what

608
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,039
is the math on that sixty three minus fourteen forty

609
00:31:47,119 --> 00:31:51,960
nine points straight and and the Illinois got a field goal.

610
00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:54,960
They didn't score in the second half. That that's just

611
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,880
mind boggling to me. Illinois, Like, I still think they're

612
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,799
a top twenty five caliber team. I think they just

613
00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:04,079
get versus an Indiana team. And look, Indiana, they play

614
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,200
Oregon and Penn State still on the schedule. You gotta

615
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,079
go to Iowa next week. That game is gonna be

616
00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:11,960
a three thirty game. What is something you need to

617
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,960
see before they play Oregon. They'll have a bye week

618
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:19,200
going into that game October eleventh. What do you want

619
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,960
to see from this Hoosiers team or what do you

620
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,880
think the keyster victory are for the Hoosiers? You know,

621
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,880
two weeks down the line or I guess three weeks

622
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:26,599
down the line.

623
00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's interesting because going into the game against Illinois,

624
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,519
it was like, all right, Indiana probably needs to win

625
00:32:34,599 --> 00:32:38,240
this game for the College Football Playoff because going into Oregon,

626
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:42,359
going into Penn State doesn't seem too feasible for anybody

627
00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:45,200
to go into those places and win. So if Indiana

628
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,640
lost against Illinois, they would have had to probably do

629
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,839
that to kind of get into the College Football Payoff.

630
00:32:50,279 --> 00:32:55,640
But the dismantling and the evisceration of that Saturday night

631
00:32:56,039 --> 00:33:00,279
in Bloomington, it's led to some questions, and there's talk

632
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:02,440
about it this morning, there's talk about it over the

633
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:05,519
last you know, a couple of hours. Can Indiana go

634
00:33:05,559 --> 00:33:08,640
in there and compete at Oddson and Eugene against Oregon?

635
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,799
Can they go into Beaver Stadium and compete with Penn

636
00:33:11,799 --> 00:33:14,400
State on the road. We won't know until obviously those

637
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,039
games happen. But when you go out and you beat

638
00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:20,279
a top ten team by fifty three, those questions start

639
00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:23,039
to come up, you know, how good is Indiana because

640
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,480
we just don't really know at this point. Obviously. I

641
00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:28,319
agree with you. I think Illinois is still a top

642
00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:30,519
twenty five team. I think they're good. I think that

643
00:33:30,599 --> 00:33:33,799
win speaks more to how good Indiana is better than

644
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,720
the fact that Illinois isn't good. I think Illinois is

645
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,480
still a really good football team. But I think if

646
00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:43,119
you go into if you're Indiana, you go into Kinnick,

647
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,680
you go on the road to Iowa, you take care

648
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,279
of business, you win that game by multiple scores. I

649
00:33:48,319 --> 00:33:50,799
think that would go a long way in setting up

650
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,759
kind of a colossal clash, a big time showdown, a

651
00:33:54,839 --> 00:33:58,240
big time matchup that two weeks after I guess in

652
00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:02,319
autsin against Oregon because the best teams in the country,

653
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,319
the top tier teams, if you're talking about the Big ten,

654
00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:08,320
the Ohio States of the world, they go into Kinnick

655
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:10,920
and they go into places like Iowa City and they

656
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,400
win those games by three or four scorers. So, if

657
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,239
you're Indiana and you want to be one of those

658
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,639
teams that last year, let's face it, they weren't on

659
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:19,360
the level of Ohio State. They weren't on the level

660
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,679
of Nerd name. They were good, but not quite on

661
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,119
that level. If you want to be on that level

662
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:26,599
this year, which Indiana very well could be based on

663
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,000
that game against Illinois, if you want to be on

664
00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:32,119
that level, you have to go into Iowa City and

665
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:35,280
take care of business by a score or two, maybe

666
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,960
even more against an Iowa team. That's good. But again,

667
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,760
if you want to be taken seriously as a team

668
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,480
that could go into Oregon and beat them, if you

669
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:44,599
want to be taken seriously as a team that could

670
00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:47,079
go into Penn State and beat them on the road,

671
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,840
those are the types of games you kind of have

672
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,239
to dominate and you kind of have to prove that

673
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,360
you are one of the top teams in college football.

674
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think really, Gronowski for Iowa's played good

675
00:34:57,199 --> 00:35:00,599
ever since the Iowa State game. Granted it's again UMass

676
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,320
and Rutgers. Not that I think Rutgers they have a

677
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,960
solid offense this year. I think defensively, they're just gonna

678
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,519
get shaken up too much where they're not gonna have

679
00:35:08,559 --> 00:35:11,039
a chance to compete, which is not really typical to

680
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:15,119
say for a Rutgers team. Greg Ciano typically has a

681
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:18,360
good coach defense. But regardless, like I think Gronowski like

682
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,840
he was someone that I thought was going to be,

683
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,400
you know, like a stable quarterback for Iowa, and he was.

684
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,800
Last game. He was twelve of eighteen, one hundred and

685
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,920
six yards over ten yards per attempt. But a lot

686
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,400
of that is him sitting back there dancing around. And

687
00:35:31,679 --> 00:35:34,239
I think if Indiana's really just able to force the

688
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,920
pressure like they were versus Illinois, I don't think really

689
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,199
Iowa stands a chance. And then my thing with that

690
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,480
Oregon game, I think it's gonna be a great matchup

691
00:35:42,519 --> 00:35:45,280
of quarterbacks. Dante Moores looked pretty poised so far coming

692
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,719
into this year. He was someone that went to Detroit

693
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,519
king like I've mentioned multiple times, down there in Detroit,

694
00:35:51,559 --> 00:35:54,800
it's like literally like the schools take like two miles

695
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,960
from Ford Field and look, he went to Ucla. I

696
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,199
thought he looked okay. But I think Ucla is just

697
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,599
in a very bad place, not to not to beat

698
00:36:06,639 --> 00:36:10,719
on a dead horse, but just not a great football

699
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,599
program at this point in time. And what I think

700
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,400
that game's gonna speak a lot about both of these teams. Now,

701
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,119
Oregon does go to Penn State next week, that's going

702
00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:23,480
to be a very tough matchup, but I think they'll

703
00:36:23,519 --> 00:36:25,039
get a bye week. Both teams will have a bye

704
00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:27,960
week and then play each other, and really the adjustments

705
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,920
they'll make going into that bye week and what the

706
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,920
game plans will be. I think it's gonna be a

707
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,760
great coaching matchup, great quarterback matchup. I think that we'll

708
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,400
see who really is gonna be that second or third

709
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,880
Big Ten team, maybe even the first team to get

710
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,320
into the College Football Playoff and potentially play for a

711
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,360
Big Ten title game.

712
00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that game will probably be the biggest game of

713
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,000
the season and the Big Ten out. It's difficult because

714
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,840
there's so many I mean, you got the Oregon Penn

715
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,679
State game next weekend, but for both of those two teams.

716
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,960
Depending on what Oregon does against Penn State, that could

717
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:02,679
define whether or not you have a buy in the

718
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,239
College Football Playoff come the end of the season. It

719
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,079
could define if you're hosting a game in the College

720
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:10,599
Football Playoff or if you're out of the College Fotble

721
00:37:10,639 --> 00:37:13,079
Playoff altogether. So that will be a massive game for

722
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:15,559
both of those two teams. And I agree. I really

723
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:17,599
like Dante Moore. I saw him play in high school.

724
00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:20,559
He came down Detroit King, came down to play Carmel

725
00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:25,039
when I was at Carbonate. Fantastic game, by the way.

726
00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:27,360
That was an awesome game between Detroit King and Carmel

727
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,360
that year. But Dante More, he's had a fan of

728
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,119
me ever since that game because he showed me that night. Again,

729
00:37:33,159 --> 00:37:35,119
he was just a high schooler at that point, but

730
00:37:35,159 --> 00:37:37,400
he is the real deal. He is a legit guy.

731
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,840
And it helps that you're in a Dan Lanning offense

732
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,639
and an Oregon offense that you could throw a twelve

733
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,039
year old into, it feels like and he could have success.

734
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of receivers that are unknown. I mean,

735
00:37:48,199 --> 00:37:50,159
they had to Corey and Moore, who is their highly

736
00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:53,039
touted freshman, But with Evan Stewart getting hurt for that

737
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:56,159
Ducks team, I mean, there's a lot of opportunity for

738
00:37:56,199 --> 00:37:58,199
players to kind of suit themselves in and kind of

739
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:02,760
earn their mark and spot on that team. So it's

740
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,960
gonna be a great matchup because the Indiana receivers and

741
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,800
Omar Cooper and sarat are both really good guys that

742
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,119
you know, they'll probably play on Sundays at some point

743
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,159
or at least be on a practice squad. I don't

744
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:14,079
know if they're gonna be first or second round talent.

745
00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:18,320
We'll see how the draft projects, because everything changes and

746
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,159
then everyone runs a forty yard dash and all of

747
00:38:20,159 --> 00:38:22,800
a sudden, everyone forgets about what actually happened on the fields.

748
00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:27,639
I make that remark in just terms of I think

749
00:38:27,679 --> 00:38:29,920
some of the physical stats that are tested, while they

750
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,760
are important, I think film is just the most important

751
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,760
thing when it comes to a quarterback or really any

752
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,039
skilled position. I guess any position overall. Maybe you can,

753
00:38:40,159 --> 00:38:42,920
like defensive linemen, you can you know, work in more

754
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,400
because look at Trayvon Walker. He was a guy that

755
00:38:45,519 --> 00:38:49,119
had great physical testing and then eventually, you know, transcended

756
00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:51,880
to be pretty good defensive end. Slash linebacker for the

757
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,199
Jacksonville Jaguars, So it is possible, I guess. But there's

758
00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:59,639
also the Anthony Richardson case where he looks terrible and

759
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:03,199
getting beat out by Daniel Jones. But you're a Colts fan,

760
00:39:03,679 --> 00:39:06,280
so I bet you know more about it than I do.

761
00:39:07,039 --> 00:39:10,400
But uh, you know who do they? Who are they

762
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:10,920
playing today?

763
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,079
Speaker 2: The Titans?

764
00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: Okay, so cam Ward versus Daniel Jones, solid solid court.

765
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,239
I mean Daniel Jones. Look, he's been good.

766
00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:24,119
Speaker 2: He's gonna keep playing like this. Then I won't say

767
00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:26,920
anything about whether or not I thought Anthony Richardson should

768
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,079
have gotten the starting job or not.

769
00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it's tough, but I assume most

770
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,639
of the time, the NFL gms and personnel directors and

771
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:39,039
you know, coaches, you know what they're doing, hopefully, I

772
00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:42,760
mean they're getting paid good chunk of good chuck that.

773
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,800
But AnyWho, this is Zach Browning joining us here on

774
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,280
the Big Ten paradigm. Zach, thank you for your time

775
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,440
so much. And look at that Oregon game goes very

776
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:55,960
goes well in the rate of the Hoosiers direction direction

777
00:39:56,119 --> 00:39:58,280
or even later on in the season, they they're in

778
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,559
the Big Ten title game. Well, I'll be having you

779
00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:03,480
back on the show because I liked our conversation. I

780
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,239
thought went pretty well.

781
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 2: I do too. It was a great time being here.

782
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,199
I always talk about Indiana football, all right.

783
00:40:10,639 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 1: When we return, we'll discuss what's going to happen in

784
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,159
that Penn State Oregon game, and so on and so forth,

785
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:19,719
and Week five of the college football season here in

786
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:24,119
the Big Ten. Once again, want to think Zach Browning

787
00:40:24,159 --> 00:40:28,840
for joining us here on the Big Ten paradigm, as

788
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,960
we love all our guests that join us. But man,

789
00:40:31,159 --> 00:40:34,519
Zach was a very nice guy, and we had a

790
00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:38,039
great conversation before, and like you mentioned, you know, he's

791
00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:42,400
a big Reds fan, big Colts fan, which recording this

792
00:40:42,599 --> 00:40:46,840
later after I believe the Colts won versus the Titans

793
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,000
in yeah, the one o'clock game. I was just mainly

794
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,119
looking at my fantasy team earlier, but yeah, forty one

795
00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:54,480
to twenty and the Reds one today and they're in

796
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,760
the wild card. So he's got to be a pretty

797
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,079
happy guy. His his Hoosiers get it. He's on Red's

798
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:03,199
looking to make a push and the Colts are still

799
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:10,280
undefeated with Daniel Jones, so some really impressive stuff. I'm

800
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,599
not an NFL guy, but man, has Daniel Jones made

801
00:41:13,639 --> 00:41:16,800
a career ARC or made a big change in his

802
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,880
career ARC because there was a talk about he was

803
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,760
gonna play safety last year. So but regardless, let's take

804
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,159
a look at the AP top twenty five pole and

805
00:41:26,199 --> 00:41:30,079
then we will talk about week five on the way out.

806
00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:35,480
Ohio State is number one, still, Miami jumps Penn State,

807
00:41:35,519 --> 00:41:39,920
Penn State falls down two three, Oregon sits at six

808
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,800
in the Big Ten. Indiana moves up to the eleven position,

809
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,599
just sitting behind Texas, A and M and Texas and

810
00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:51,360
then moving farther down. Michigan is at nineteen, jumping up

811
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,920
two spots. USC jumps up to twenty one, Notre Dame's

812
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,440
twenty two. Illinois still stays in the top twenty five

813
00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:01,320
at twenty five three. And then for the other Big

814
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,400
ten teams and receiving votes, Hey, Maryland, shout out to Yeah,

815
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,960
shout out to yeah, they got six votes or six points,

816
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,960
I should say, But yeah, and no one, no other

817
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,519
Big ten team is being considered, especially after the Nebraska loss.

818
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:20,679
But hey, you know, still a lot of season left

819
00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:22,639
to be played. We're not even close to being done.

820
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,840
More dramatics and more things will happen, and we have

821
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,599
a big, big game next week. Hey, all the Big

822
00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:33,559
ten games will be on Saturday. That's cool. We're obviously

823
00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:38,039
talking about ucl No, I'm kidding UCLA in Northwestern do play,

824
00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:42,079
So yeah, that that'll be a game, will be good.

825
00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:46,519
I don't know. I at to be such like a

826
00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:51,400
hater about it, but it's just like like Northwestern, I guess,

827
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,760
isn't the most terrible thing, and they think they're seventy

828
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,840
chance to win according to the ESPN analytics. But yeah,

829
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,440
that that'll be you know what, I'll probably watch it,

830
00:43:02,679 --> 00:43:05,360
but let's be real, I'm gonna watch it. It's on

831
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,920
Big ten network. Why not? Why not? Only it looks

832
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,039
like six games total next week with a lot of

833
00:43:12,039 --> 00:43:14,599
teams being on bye weeks. First game I wanted to

834
00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:20,239
start out with Penn State versus Organ down in Happy Valley.

835
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,840
Penn State favored by three and a half. So the

836
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,599
power ratings thing, well, I guess would you give Happy

837
00:43:27,679 --> 00:43:30,320
Valley probably a four point? Like? I think these teams

838
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,840
are so even on like a power rating and talent

839
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,360
composite scale. In a lot of the position groups drew

840
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,960
Aller versus Dante Moore. A lot of criticism about Drew Aller,

841
00:43:41,039 --> 00:43:43,400
including for me, I'm not gonna say I'm innocent in

842
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,000
this situation. I don't know if he's been that great.

843
00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:48,719
I think Dante Moore has looked pretty good. Almost a

844
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,960
thousand passing yards already, eleven touchdowns to one interception. Who's

845
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,719
gonna step up in this running game in this big

846
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,199
game for Orgon? I think that is my biggest question

847
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,079
for the Ducks coming into this game, because they haven't

848
00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:02,880
really proved that they have a number one back. They

849
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,679
got Lamar Hill Whittington. They're also supposed to be using

850
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,960
the Kai Hughes as well. Dante more can run it

851
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,880
a little bit in the ground game, and then look

852
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,440
Malik Benson, he made a nice catch last week. You

853
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,519
also have Decory and Moore, who is technically leading in

854
00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:19,679
receiving yards. You goat Sadik at the tight end position,

855
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:27,159
Bryant like this. This this Oregon team, Yeah, they they

856
00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:30,719
they haven't been challenged yet, and neither has Penn State.

857
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:35,199
Really neither of these teams have been significantly challenged, and

858
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,199
that that's gonna change. That's gonna change this game. I

859
00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:43,239
think it'll be whatever team could keep it cleaner, because

860
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,280
I think there's just gonna be mistakes being in this game.

861
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,400
Considering that out of the two, yeah, Penn State's played Nevada,

862
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,679
f i U and Villanovo. Like, I think, while there's

863
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,119
a lot of experience, especially on the Penn State side

864
00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:59,199
compared to the Oregon side, I think who's able to

865
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,800
force miss stas? Yeah, two prolific edge rushers and denied

866
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,719
Denis Sutton and Mateo ou Yugoy, both guys are gonna

867
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:11,039
be playing on Sundays. Like it's going to be a

868
00:45:11,039 --> 00:45:13,960
great game between both of these teams, and I think,

869
00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:17,440
like I don't see it getting outside of like a touchdown. Like,

870
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,719
I think both of these teams are gonna do a

871
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:25,239
good job of, you know, really applying that pressure, doing

872
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,280
a good job in coverage, Like whoever's able to kind

873
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,280
of just win. I don't think any either team's gonna

874
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,440
really get any separation either in terms of like a

875
00:45:33,519 --> 00:45:36,119
talent advantage, because I don't think the Oregon receivers are

876
00:45:36,159 --> 00:45:39,760
that much the panya and the other guys at ross

877
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,920
at Penn State. So like this is going to be

878
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,159
a very interesting matchup and I'm excited to see, you know,

879
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,679
one of these big time. Like I know, the Illinois

880
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,880
Indiana game was big time technically, even though it wasn't

881
00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:58,320
because Indiana beat the crap out of them. But yeah,

882
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,920
I mean, it's going to be interesting to see what's

883
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:07,199
going to happen in that game. Seven thirty NBC Penn

884
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,360
State three and a half point favorite over under a

885
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,480
fifty three and a half. It could really go either

886
00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:15,800
way because I think that the Oregon offense could get

887
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,559
up and Penn State's got to respond. But I also

888
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:20,239
think Penn State can set the tone defensively. Not to

889
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,719
say that Oregon's a bad defense. I just think Penn State,

890
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,239
you know, has a little bit better of a defensive

891
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,719
identity this season, kind of why they've been able to

892
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,039
dominate so far this season. But look, there's some players

893
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,199
on this Oregon team obviously mentioned Ui Augi. They have

894
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,079
a linebacker and bouchetter that I think could be a

895
00:46:39,199 --> 00:46:42,519
big crucial part. It'll be interesting to see, you know,

896
00:46:42,639 --> 00:46:44,840
the dbs step up in this game as well, because

897
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,039
on both sides, you don't really know, you know, who's

898
00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:51,039
gonna be playing or who's gonna be that standout guy

899
00:46:51,039 --> 00:46:53,119
in the secondary for both of these teams, So it

900
00:46:53,159 --> 00:46:59,079
will be interesting other games USC Illinois this one in Champagne.

901
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,320
USC is a six and a half point favorite. They

902
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,480
think that the ali and I I bet a lot

903
00:47:04,519 --> 00:47:06,519
of things are gonna drop down for the Aliani And look,

904
00:47:06,559 --> 00:47:09,119
I mentioned I still think Illinois is a top twenty

905
00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:12,480
five team. I don't think they're that like as bad

906
00:47:12,519 --> 00:47:14,280
as they got beat by Indiana, I think if they

907
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,840
were to play that game again, while I'd probably still

908
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,440
take it Indiana, I don't think they lose by fifty

909
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,800
three points. I think it's like a seven point game.

910
00:47:24,199 --> 00:47:27,320
It was just weird. Indiana also played the best football,

911
00:47:27,639 --> 00:47:33,400
so but look like I think a big problem in

912
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,440
that game versus India that really didn't get talked about

913
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,480
too much from Illinois. They didn't run the ball at

914
00:47:39,519 --> 00:47:41,880
all and they were playing from behind, but like they

915
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,599
averaged point. I know Sacki Yarde comes into play, but

916
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,039
if he can only had three point six yards per

917
00:47:47,159 --> 00:47:49,800
carry and Valentine only had one point eight Like their

918
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,159
longest run literally was thirteen from Luke Almeyer in that game. Now,

919
00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:55,679
I think they'll be able to do a better job

920
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,760
versus USC. But I mean we saw what the Illinois

921
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:02,360
into the Illinois secondary, and I think Majava is that

922
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:08,880
good too. And I think the receivers for USC are

923
00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:12,840
pretty good. At McKay Lemon, like he's a he's a

924
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,599
really good player. And also Jacoby Lane, he's a big

925
00:48:16,639 --> 00:48:20,119
play guy. He's averaging like twenty seven yards per reception.

926
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,440
I mean they've really only used Lemon, and they've also

927
00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:26,159
really gone to the ground with Sanders and Jordan this season.

928
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,880
And look, hein't been looking really prolific on offense. And

929
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,719
I would take that spread with USC. I know it's

930
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,800
it's gotten bet up to uh by the way it

931
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,719
started out one and a half, it's now up to

932
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,880
six and a half, so five points, and I think

933
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,559
it probably could get bet up to like nine or

934
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:47,400
ten and a half. Not that I think that Illinois

935
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,880
is that much worse, but they really have to prove

936
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,199
it this weekend. If they don't, I mean a lot

937
00:48:53,199 --> 00:48:54,800
of people are gonna be like, oh, well, this team

938
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,079
was a preseason fraud. I don't like, like, yes, but

939
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,679
they also have good talent on this team, like Gabe

940
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,280
Jackets is still gonna be a first round linebacker. I

941
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,280
don't know about the rest of the team in terms

942
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,480
of their draft projectability, but over under a sixty one

943
00:49:09,519 --> 00:49:12,800
and a half. Hey, I don't think USC is gonna

944
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,519
do it by themselves like Indiana did, but yeah, I

945
00:49:17,159 --> 00:49:19,760
think I think we'll see a good game there. Indiana

946
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:26,079
Iowa happening on Peacock three thirty, which, by the way,

947
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:32,679
why is WWE on ESPN? Now I've totally forgot about

948
00:49:32,679 --> 00:49:36,639
that whole media contract signing and whatnot. Can we, like,

949
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,800
why does everything have to be changing all the time?

950
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,320
You can just make it simple, Like I know, cable

951
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,800
TV is probably never gonna exist again, but at least

952
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,360
mostly everything was on there. Now, WWE was pay per

953
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,440
view at the time. But like, why can't we just

954
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,039
make all network like you pay like fifty bucks a

955
00:49:53,039 --> 00:49:55,360
month not fifty Why don't you just pay like eighty

956
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,119
to one hundred bucks a month to have like every

957
00:49:57,159 --> 00:50:00,519
single streaming app? Like someone needs to come up with, right,

958
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,760
It's ridiculous to have so many individual payments for so

959
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,360
many different like sources of entertainment. It just doesn't make

960
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,960
any sense. But that's a rant for another day. Indiana

961
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,960
is a three and a half point favorite at can't

962
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,039
open at three and a half. Now they're at six

963
00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:19,000
and a half. Oh okay. Anyways, like this Iowa team

964
00:50:19,079 --> 00:50:22,159
got lit up in the secondary by Calai Kvanis. Now,

965
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,800
like Raymond wasn't able to run the ball, but this

966
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,639
is a three headed monster, and when they had Bbie,

967
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,760
I mean it was also a really good run game

968
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,920
as well. For Indiana, I think that they're gonna be

969
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,840
able to just kind of pressure this Iowa defense too much,

970
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,719
and I don't think they have the talent to really

971
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,760
push the ball against this Indiana defense between their secondary

972
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,119
and pass rush. And with that being said, I think

973
00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:47,760
Indiana's gonna win by like twenty in this game. I

974
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,320
know Kiddick's a hard place to go play and pull

975
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,559
out a win. And I'm not trying to disrespect Iowa

976
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:58,039
in any manner. I'm probably drinking the Signetti kool aid

977
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,719
a little bit too much, but I like, I seriously

978
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:07,639
think that this Indiana teams like really legit, and I

979
00:51:07,679 --> 00:51:12,679
think that yeah, they they are. They are a problem.

980
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:18,039
And look, I just when Iowa plays teams that are that,

981
00:51:18,679 --> 00:51:21,400
the talent is better. On the other side, it's just

982
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,719
hard to pick them because of the style football they play.

983
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,840
And I'm not gonna go on this Kirk Farrench change

984
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,079
up because that's that's how they've been. They've gone to

985
00:51:29,079 --> 00:51:33,519
Big Ten championship games. Like I can't really criticize the

986
00:51:33,519 --> 00:51:39,599
Hawkeyes all that much. Rutgers plays Minnesota. I don't know

987
00:51:39,639 --> 00:51:43,440
what the status is on Darius Taylor because even with

988
00:51:43,559 --> 00:51:46,000
him being out, he's still their leading rusher even being

989
00:51:46,039 --> 00:51:50,159
out a game. Drake Lindsay, he's been okay, CALLI comandis Look,

990
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,440
he might be the most underrated quarterback in the Big Ten,

991
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,679
not really talked about, not that Rutgers is really gonna

992
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,199
be talked about in like a national light, but he's

993
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:03,159
he's been really good. I like, I don't know, uh

994
00:52:03,519 --> 00:52:06,679
if that has a chance to even go anywhere. Five

995
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,320
and a half point favorites the home team of Minnesota,

996
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,119
and I think it'll be a good, like middle of

997
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:14,599
the pack Big Ten matchup, like to see you know,

998
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,800
both these teams trying to make a bowl game and

999
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,119
maybe trying to get like seven eight wins in a season.

1000
00:52:19,159 --> 00:52:21,960
I think this is a good game in terms of,

1001
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:23,760
you know, fighting for the middle of the Big Ten.

1002
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,960
And I'll probably be on my TV uh Ohio State

1003
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,000
and Washington Ohio State. It's only a nine and a

1004
00:52:29,039 --> 00:52:33,400
half point favorite. It opened at thirteen for OSU, thirteen

1005
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,679
and a half for OSU and Mon Williams. I mean,

1006
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,599
he's one of those guys where he could really change

1007
00:52:40,599 --> 00:52:44,719
a game by himself. He's like, I don't think his

1008
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,800
name has been talked about enough now. He was kind

1009
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,559
of hiped in the preseason, especially people around Big Ten

1010
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:52,400
media days, and I remember listening to him talk about

1011
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,960
he has such a good relationship with his offensive lineman

1012
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,000
and one of the things that they did is like

1013
00:52:57,039 --> 00:52:59,559
team bonding, was go golfing. He's like, while I'm not

1014
00:52:59,679 --> 00:53:02,599
eight a golfer, you know, it's still something we enjoy

1015
00:53:02,679 --> 00:53:04,920
around being each other and really just trying to understand

1016
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,199
each other. And that's something you love to see out

1017
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:11,679
of a leader at the quarterback position. Look, Husky Stadium

1018
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,199
is a tough play to go, tough place to go play,

1019
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:20,559
and I would love to see Ohio State really be

1020
00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:23,840
able to air it out because Sayan hasn't looked particularly

1021
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,320
amazing so far to start out this season. I don't

1022
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,440
think he's been bad by any means. I just don't

1023
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,559
think he's looked particularly amazing. They got people's and Donald

1024
00:53:34,039 --> 00:53:39,559
Donaldson and also Jackson backfield. Obviously we know the receiver room.

1025
00:53:39,639 --> 00:53:42,760
We're not blind. I'd love to see Max Claire really

1026
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,559
get used in this game. He's only got four receptions

1027
00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:48,719
on the season. Tate and Smith have been the leading guys.

1028
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,000
Love to see Innis maybe get involved a little bit

1029
00:53:51,039 --> 00:53:55,480
more as well. And will this just Ohio State team

1030
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,280
be able to apply pressure more and more really trying

1031
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,400
to break in that defensive line unit. We have really

1032
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,679
talked about this team since the Week one game, after

1033
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,599
the Week one game with Tyler Danberg, which we'll talk

1034
00:54:05,639 --> 00:54:08,719
to you again at some point. That'll be a great

1035
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,840
road trip or I guess, I don't know if they're

1036
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:17,239
probably not driving, they're definitely flying. I mean they might,

1037
00:54:17,519 --> 00:54:23,519
they might drive. It could be fun. Maybe I'm kidding, uh,

1038
00:54:23,519 --> 00:54:26,360
but yeah, that'll be a great game between both of

1039
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:31,199
those teams. And then, like I mentioned very jokingly, UCLA

1040
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:36,920
and Northwestern play football. They're playing at the the the

1041
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:42,039
beautiful looking medicine field at Martin Stadium, the very small

1042
00:54:42,119 --> 00:54:45,440
practice field for Northwestern. That'd be a fun game to watch.

1043
00:54:45,519 --> 00:54:49,920
Maybe I don't know. Regardless, that's everything to cover here

1044
00:54:50,039 --> 00:54:52,360
in the Big Ten. I want to thank you for

1045
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,599
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