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Speaker 1: Ah, there's Cindy Favey. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing today, Miss Cindy.

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Speaker 1: I am so excited, really thrilled to be here.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm excited to share a conversation with you because

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I too, am a writer as well as a published author.

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And the fact that you are releasing two books at

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the same time, you are in touch with what is

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really going on in the world, because this is where

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people are. They want to binge watch, they want to

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binge read, they want something that they can go to

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immediately or read simultaneously.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I feel very lucky of two books on the

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same day coming out.

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Speaker 2: In that amazing How did that even happen? Because there's

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no way that I could write two books at the

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same time. What was the separation period?

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Speaker 1: And this is the real story. I started writing this

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books a long time ago in nineteen ninety five. Book one, Danger,

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No Problem, Book two Sunday or the High Rate. For

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the longest time, Row, I couldn't find an agent, I

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couldn't find a publisher, yep. But when the time finally

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came that an agent signed me, she was able to

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offer publishers two books, all written and ready, and so

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that is how it happened. Thomasin Musser decided since I

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am ready my books are ready, that they would publish

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both books simultaneously.

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Speaker 2: Wow wow see And that inspires me because how many

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writers will they? You know, they start getting those negative letters,

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say no, no, no, no, no, no no no no,

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and they stop, and you prove to yourself that I

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am not going to stop. I'm going to continue writing

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because obviously I have to do it.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, it was basically a gamble. That's the thing with

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fiction because unlike nonfiction, with fiction, you actually have to

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finish writing your book before you can even approach an

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agent or an editor and publisher. And so with me,

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I just get I kept getting rejected, but I figured,

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you know what, no matter what happens, the stories I

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have to write, I am destined to write this book,

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and I just wrote them. So basically I took the gamble.

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I took a chance and the gamble paid off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah see, I love talking it. I love that because

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once again, you took a chance, and that isn't that

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what being creative is all about. We take chances and

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if you fall on your face, you pick yourself back

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up and you do.

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Speaker 1: It again exactly. Yea.

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Speaker 2: So now to put these stories together and you're holding

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on to them. To me, I call that fermenting time.

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How As that author, didn't you go in there and

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rewrite Because we're perfectionist, Cindy, we really are, and we'll

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go in there and you have one of those moments

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where we feel like we've got a better idea.

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Speaker 1: I because I've written Book one specifically a long time ago,

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and I kept getting rejected. I actually had to adapt. Originally,

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I had written this book as a literary novel, and

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all the agents and all the publishers were telling me

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that it was a very uncommercial book. I had a

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Philippine American protagonist and it talks about immigration, and so

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they told me right off the bat, this are this

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is really tough. So and so after a while it

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occurred to me to rewrite the entire book from a

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different point of view. Originally, my Domingo, the bounty hunter protagonist,

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was just a secondary character. But I wrote it completely

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and I wrote it from his point of view. Once

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I did that, the book became a thriller because he

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is a bounty hunter and he is all about the chase.

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And once my book became a thriller. It organically became commercial.

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That is how I got a literary agent to sign

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me up once I have written it and made it

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into a thriller. That is also how she was able

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to sell the books. I think that if I had

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stopped writing this serious, you know, literary fiction, I'd still

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be unpublished today.

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Speaker 2: See I understand that term because I mean, you've got

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to learn how to find out where your voice is

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when it comes to the literacy world, because and you know,

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for some people they may never find it, or others

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feel like they know it, but like you're discovering here

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is that? Well, no, you had to be in some

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paths and stuff in order to find a different writing voice.

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Speaker 1: Exactly. I think as a writer, you writer yourself. I

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think we have to ask ourselves why are you writing?

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You know? You know, for maybe for literary novelists, it's

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really because they want to write that serious book. For me,

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I am writing because I want to introduce Silpin American

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characters to mainstream readers. And I felt that if Rollo

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is the best chance for me to introduce my people

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to readers, that I was more than willing to do it.

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It was it's exactly the same story, it's just from

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a different point of view.

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Speaker 2: Please do not move. There's more with Cindy Fosse coming

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up next, the creator of Domingo the Bounty Hunter. We're

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back with Cindy Fosse. And you know what I find

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out very fascinating about authors is the fact that you're

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doing something that a lot of people can't do, and

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that is that you are captivating the imagination of one

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person at a time. Whereas in radio we try to

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talk to a group of people, television a group of people,

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but as that author you are, you are sharing that

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story with one set of eyes at a time.

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Speaker 1: It is fiction is very personal. Yes, I believe arrow

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that when I write the book. While I'm writing the book,

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the book is mine. But today, on release day, the

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book is the books are no longer mine. And by God,

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I mean that once the reader picks up that book,

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they may read that book according to their own perspective.

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They're gonna maybe they're going to get exactly the way

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I want them to get it, but maybe they're going

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to inject their own experiences and look at it in

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a completely different way. That is the beauty of fiction.

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I think I share that with the reader. It is

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not just my book now it is also the reader's book.

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Speaker 2: How do you handle those moments though, when when a

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book or many books arrive at the house in a box,

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because now you physically have those books, and it's almost

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like the first step of your mind, body and soul

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saying it doesn't belong to you anymore. Go ahead, do

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what you got to do as a real person. And

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then and then you've got to relinquish it. It's theirs

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and you, like you said, I love that when you

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say it's their interpretation of your story. It's now theirs

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to continue growing with it.

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Speaker 1: Exactly. You know, a lot of the beginning, like with

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my very first book, I felt very I don't know,

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I felt like, oh, this is my book. But I

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think I learned along the way that no matter what,

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people are going to read it the way they want

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to read it, and it should be. That should be

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how it's supposed to be. Fiction is very very personal

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and it is subjective and they own that and I

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give it to them. And so ultimately, as a writer,

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arrow you and I we have to think of writing

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as the ultimate way to give it is really giving

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that story to the reader.

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Speaker 2: So true. That is so true. I never thought of

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it that way. That it is giving.

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Speaker 1: It's really if you have to think of it that

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way otherwise, you know, are you going to get bothered

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when people criticize it? Because that is the flip side

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of it. When people read it, Oh, they might think

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all kinds of horrible things about it. That is fine too,

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that because that is how they see it. And so

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once you once you accept that as a writer, you're

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a giver. You're giving that story away the reader, the world,

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then everything is cool, positive, negative, it's okay.

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Speaker 2: What what I do at that time, Cindy, is that

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when I get a bad critique and stuff like that,

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what I'll do is I try to turn it around

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and say, what would you have done? What if you

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were put in the same situation, your fingers on that keyboard,

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what would you have done in this situation to regain

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the confidence and the and the attention of that reader

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and and get Now they're part of the the You know,

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you've got to get a solution somewhere, So make them

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a part of your solution.

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Speaker 1: I always learn from feedback, so positive or negative. But

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I think that the one thing though, is once you

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have that mindset that writing is giving, you don't get

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crushed with every negative comment. But they say, oh, these

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characters so hard to understand. I take something from that,

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and you know that's always at the back of my

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mind with the next book. But at least I don't

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feel like devastated, you know, because I felt like it's okay,

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you know, I give I give it to you willingly.

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Speaker 2: Now are you going to market Domingo in the way

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of you know, because I mean when you got Domingo

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the Bounty Hunter first of all, those those words right

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there say that that to me is a selling point.

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That's stuffed animals, that's other books that are going to

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follow that. There's so much there to Domingo the Bounty Hunter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I'm really hoping that books wanted to it

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would fly and you know, everybody would enjoy it. I

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think here's what's the unique good. My protagonist, Domingo is

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the first brown immigrant, the first silpin American bounty hunter

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in a novel in The Bounty Hunter truth. Yes, and

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so I really theo it is again, I am taking

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that chance. It's a big gamble. I am subverting the

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trope because when we think of bounty hunter, we think

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of Dog the bounty Hunter. Yes, who, by the way,

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is very very gracious. He actually reached out to me

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and came up and he's very gracious. But it's true

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that when we think of Boundy Hunter, we think of

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Don the bounce Hunter. We think of white male bounty hunters.

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And so I'm hoping that readers are ready for Domingo

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the Bounty Hunter.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Cindy, You've got to come back to this show

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anytime in the future because I love growing with an

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author as they continue really to release their brand new books,

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and I just I really want you to be on

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that list to where every year we get to talk.

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Speaker 1: I would love to thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Will you'd be brilliant? And thank you for giving yourself

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permission to continue on with being an author, because, like

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I said before, other people would have given up. You

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have not. And because of that, look at how many

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lives are going to change inside their imaginations.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Erro, will you be brilliant today? Okay,