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Speaker 1: We have to Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where.

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Speaker 1: The plays get broken down and science gets denied. The

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Bench Hour two of Off the Bench Live from downtown

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Baton Rouge starts now, und let.

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Speaker 2: Drop a little bit here there.

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Speaker 3: It is so she said that rivers all wet.

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Speaker 4: You have lyrics mistrue anyways, rivers are famously wet. Is

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Speaker 2: Yes? Is it?

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Speaker 5: I feel like I don't In the lyric before she's

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like glitter on the West Street. So I feel like

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she's saying glitter. But maybe she is saying river.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Okay, he's going to get the lyrics dot cop alright.

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Speaker 4: Well, back in.

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Speaker 3: Week number three, the river's all wet.

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Speaker 2: The river's all wet, said it's twice. The river is.

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Speaker 4: If you say water's wet, but.

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Speaker 3: You're all.

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Speaker 7: Say it again, you're all chrome, we're all but the rivers,

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the river's all wet.

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Speaker 5: Wait both, she says both. She says the river's all

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wet and glitters all wet.

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Speaker 8: A dried up river can be is also known as

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an arroyo arroyo, a r r o y o words

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are tough, sometimes or a wash in an arid region arroyo.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, interesting, If they're not, then it's not a river.

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Speaker 8: How would y'all say that? A that sounds better.

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Speaker 2: The NBA. There you go, it's the sports Gotta tell

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Speaker 5: Point guard l Arroyo is a restaurant in Austin, Okay.

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Speaker 8: Oh, there's also another term for a river, fa Meryl

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stream mhm. Only it's only flows after a rainfall. Then

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 5: Sounds like a flash flow to me.

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Speaker 2: Ah yeah.

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Speaker 4: So go to trash rangers dot com today.

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Speaker 6: Any more questions about water being wet?

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Speaker 8: I don't know, did I just get judged for bringing

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all this up. Was very relevant to the show. Yeah, great,

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you know, so not.

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Speaker 5: Only is the river wet, but water water is water.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'll do have one more one more thing, Dad,

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An intermittent stream is a river that only flows at

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Speaker 2: Okay, so there's a lot of different types of rivers.

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Speaker 4: Apparently your favorite river Mississippi red m the Red River

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is a good one to go on. Thank you.

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Speaker 6: You got to answer your favorite river Missississippi.

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Speaker 4: Okay, on Red River separates shreaveboard in Bosure.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Oklahoma Texas playing that that game the Red Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's a Red River rivalry, which is very

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Speaker 5: Can I finish my thought from the last segment, because

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those people that's like, oh, everybody hates women. No, that's

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not what I was meaning to say, because he did

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call out Kochie as well.

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Speaker 6: But like Danny, well Danny, and like I don't I

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Speaker 5: Oh wait, do we want to Taylor has a vis

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Speaker 4: Okay, sure, go ahead.

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Speaker 10: I don't know how is you know, I wake up

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my progress or process or logic, but I will say

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your feedback. You know, there's tons of people that vote

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many people who vote, and like I said, it's really

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fun for discussion. It doesn't you know, probably matter in

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the end, but I'm glad that people are having a

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really good time with you.

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Speaker 5: But as far as I feel like it kind of

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does matter if you have a.

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Speaker 6: Vote, Yeah, I mean it matters, Like you want to

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make sure you're going through Like everybody's process is different,

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but whatever the process is, make sure that you're giving

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it the full attention that it deserves and needs.

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Speaker 2: Pretty sure, she just said she did she did it

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when she was drunk.

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Speaker 5: Over night.

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Speaker 8: Sure, She's like, I did it pretty late at night.

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Speaker 2: Much with the voting.

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Speaker 7: I mean, moving Florida up after a loss is wild,

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but like you truly believe that it's fine. I thought

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she was going to get on here and like give

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a full explanation everything.

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Speaker 3: She literally was like, I mean, even's out, like somebody

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did it right, is wrong, and then.

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Speaker 7: It doesn't really matter on business doesn't really matter in

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the end, goes like.

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Speaker 5: If you're going to move Florida up to spots after

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they lost, at least have a reason for it other

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than it doesn't really matter. At the end of the day,

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I was hungover, who cares?

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Speaker 3: Like, but it's fun for discussion though, I.

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Speaker 5: Mean, I guess it is. We are discussing it.

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Speaker 8: Does she get that interview without doing it? Good for her?

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Speaker 7: She said, She said it's fun to have a discussion

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Speaker 5: But also she says she appreciates everybody's discussion about it,

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but they went private on Twitter when everybody was yeah.

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Speaker 7: It's just it's it's just a bunch of contradictions, Like

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Speaker 5: Not I don't mean this in like an annoying way,

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but she does deserve all the heat. But then it

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just it gives people so much credence to insult women

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Speaker 2: I hope it was fun.

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Speaker 4: I just think, I mean, I just think if you have.

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Speaker 2: Just give it the respect, like I was going to say,

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Speaker 4: The respected, deserves, sit down, spend some time on it.

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Speaker 2: I got.

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Speaker 4: I don't have an AP vote.

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Speaker 6: I'll never have an AP vote, but I do have

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a Heisman vote, and I take it very serious. You

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should like it is something that like I don't ever

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I do the process right. I don't talk about who

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to ten players that I feel like could be in

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Speaker 8: Inly you talked about it after that, yes, after the fact,

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how do I get a Heisman?

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Speaker 2: Tebb?

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Speaker 4: I don't really know.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's let's let's dive in last year.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I went, Travis Hunter won Camp Skataboo two and

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Ashton gent three. Is that kind of is that holded

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it up? Like the Camp Skatobo didn't even get to

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Speaker 8: That playoff game too, Like he was you can rally,

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Speaker 2: Watch that playoff.

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to be able to play both sides of the football

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uh to be able to retain the knowledge, to be

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able to play both sides of the football, which is

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Speaker 4: Bryceon Daily was awesome at Army last year.

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Speaker 6: Remember, Army was like in the conversation of a college

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football playoff team out of the G five spot from

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a year ago, and you know they fell just short.

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Speaker 4: Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 6: So look again, like and I don't want to just

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it for ten, twenty thirty years. I actually would like

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Speaker 4: Maybe we can have money. He can talk about his process.

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Speaker 6: But like the Coach's poll, I don't I don't say

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this for every coach, but I know a lot of

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coaches that allow their SID to be the person that

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votes for their top twenty five, and the coaches pull

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because look, I'm a coach. That's what I'm trying to get.

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I'm trying to get ready for. You know, what blitz

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are they going to bring this week? Are they going

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to run gap schemers, zone scheme? When it comes to like,

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like I get it, Like why do we have it?

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more to think about now than they ever have because

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they got roster management to deal with. Like when usually

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in college football, So they especially don't have an extra

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an hour to go sit down and really think about

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the South Florida. If they're gonna be in the winter,

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Speaker 4: So and too the like for them, like they hadn't

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if you're not playing South Florida or you hadn't played

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go watch South Florida.

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Speaker 6: If you're you know, in the Big ten and it

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doesn't matter to your bottom line.

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AP people are actually going to watch film of everybody either?

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Speaker 6: I was just about to say, like the AP is

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made up of different people across the country, like it does.

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There need to be another pot, be in another pole

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where it's just like national media members.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I mean, like my process for getting ready for this

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show is different than my process getting ready for off campus.

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For this show, I'm gonna be lsu certainly like heavy

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and then SEC is gonna fill up the rest of it.

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For the other one, I gotta talk about Luke altmar

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in Illinois, all right, I gotta talk about Sawyer Robinson

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and Baylor.

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Speaker 4: Right, I gotta talk about Dan Mullen and what.

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Speaker 6: He's doing at UNLB because it's every team, every conference,

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so it's a different process. So whatever, like, whatever the

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process is, like, just make sure that you're giving it

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the respect that it deserves.

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Speaker 8: I didn't agree with her on one thing, though I

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agree with her on one thing. At the end of

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the day, as former like players and his players, polls

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don't matter at all. But for doing stuff like this

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talking about he does create drama, which is football while

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it's creates drama, gives good talking points, gives something for

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people to get upset about, get happy about, false sense

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of security, and it gives us something to argue about.

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Speaker 2: It's great.

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Speaker 8: That's why Sports and Football Season it's the best reality

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TV show out there.

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Speaker 2: Drama.

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Speaker 8: Hey, speaking of drama, Taylor, do you watch finished the

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Dallas Cowboy documentary?

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Speaker 2: No? I finished it last night. Was it was actually

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pretty good?

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Speaker 8: I actually kind of almost brought a tear to my Okay,

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I don't believe. Well, I mean, I grew that was

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the team I grew up with watching, and you know, but.

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Speaker 3: What you're saying is we've both moved on.

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Speaker 8: I moved on, like I made a lot better life

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decisions when I moved on than you did. I thought, honestly,

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for the for the last three three and a half months,

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I thought you're a pretty smart guy. Now I just

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realize you're dumb.

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Speaker 7: I will say, it took you a lot longer than

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most people, So I do appreciate fair.

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Speaker 8: Fair Do you appreciate that? That was the perfect response, the

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only response.

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Speaker 2: So great job.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would recommend it. It was very good.

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Speaker 8: It was like the first episodes a little nauseating because

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it's like Jerry talking about like how much he loves himself.

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Speaker 2: But after you get past that part watched I watched

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the first one. After you get.

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Speaker 8: Past that part, it's it's pretty it's pretty good. I've

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watched anything get into more like personalities of like the

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players and the coaches, and the coaches, drama between like

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Jimmy Johnson, and then when Barry Switzer came on board,

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there was drama between him and Troy Yikman.

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Speaker 2: I never knew about.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, did not like Barry Switzer, tell you what

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not a fan for, Like the amount of attention that

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like concussions got for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Troy Aikman had a lot of concussions and he still is.

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He just threw the balls with the one in the middle.

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O in the middle.

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Speaker 4: There's three of them, just picked the one in the middle.

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Speaker 2: The good lord. Football used to be a different game

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of this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good lord.

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Speaker 6: I mean even when we first got like into it's like, oh,

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you can have a five man wedge on kickoff return. Cool,

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let's go hit that. Here comes the l five? Where

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am I Taylor?

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Speaker 2: Great? All right?

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Speaker 4: Are you? Are you dealing with? Is water wet?

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Speaker 2: We're ready?

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Speaker 6: Like when we call those We got doctor Stevens set

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to join us. A lot of a lot of injuries,

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lots of injuries to talk about, to discuss and try

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to get a timeline on maybe what.

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Speaker 4: That rehab process looks like.

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Speaker 6: I also want to go around some of the other

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games in the Southeastern Conference as we start conference play.

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I know we have one last week with ole Miss

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and Kentucky, but everybody going to start getting going here

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and want to break them all down, so we've got

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Speaker 1: You're listening to.

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Speaker 12: Off the Bench, all right, welcome back in OTB.

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Speaker 4: I love Wednesday a fifteen. So our guy, doctor Stephen

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Etheridge joins us again. Doc. How we doing, how we living?

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Speaker 2: Doing great?

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Speaker 4: Doing great?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 6: So, unfortunately, we've got a long list of injuries to

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go over when it comes to teams that we care about.

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But I want to start with the New Orleans Saints

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because one of their star safeties had a labroom tear,

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and you know, we kind of talked about a little bit,

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but I wanted to wait to get you in because

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I had a labroom tear and kept playing. But it

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was in December, and it's like, okay, well we got

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a bye week and then we had the playoffs and

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it's like we'll worry about that later. But it was December,

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so it's like we're not going to have that many

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games left, like we're in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: But the most we can have four or five.

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Speaker 6: What's the difference like if you have a labrum tear

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like early in the season, certainly when you play a

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physical position where you're gonna be using your shoulder, and

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how how different can the severity may be of a

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laborm tear bee.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, we started talking about laborl injuries. It it is

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a can of worms here. You have you have two

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joints in the buy that have a laborum, the hip

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and the shoulders. If your two ball and socket joints,

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and we're talking about a shoulder here, and the laborum

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and the shoulder mostly adds stability to the shoulder, so

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it's something that doesn't necessarily work for strength and motion

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as much as its stability. So it's inside the shoulder,

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between the ball and the socket. It sort of adds

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this cartilage cup that sort of adds support.

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Speaker 2: Around the shoulder.

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Speaker 13: And the interesting with laborams is it's it's like I said,

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it's opened this big, big, big can of worms here

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because a lot of labor injuries with even alone completely

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for what's worth, I actually tore both the.

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Speaker 4: Mine and my shoulders. I never mind fixed.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, my left eye didn't, my right when I did,

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my right shoulder was very unstable. It keeps sliding out

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on me, popping out of socket, and depending on how

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stable the joint is. You know, we see it in

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pictures all the time, a picture because of the repetitive use.

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that scenario we usual leave it at unless it's giving

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them a problem. So that's when it gets really tough.

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it's earlier in the year, and we keep dislocating this shoulder,

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even just subluxing it, which is like a partial dislocation.

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of stretch that ligament out more. You're gonna stretch the

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laborm out more, maybe tear it worse, stretch the joint

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capsule out, and sometimes you even start seeing bone laws.

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and if you start rubbing those together so much that

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bone starts to erode, and then that's a much more

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difficult fix. So is it something that you can usually

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play with?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 13: Is it something that you should always play with? Probably not,

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But then there are times it's fine. If you're stable.

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If you're stable and you're not popping out of socket,

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and it's just something that over time kind of wore

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down on you. You you know again, like I said, I've

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on wood, it gave me any issues.

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Speaker 4: You can go home and you be like it's coming.

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Speaker 8: Had a lot of push ups in studio at breaks

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and my shoulders hurt. Now, is that is that two

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torn labor? Probably No, it's just you're forty dropped the ladder. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think that's probably more the case there.

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Speaker 6: So we okay, So when you have a labor them obviously,

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like if you're gonna miss time, it's probably because you

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have the situation you're talking about where you can't really

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keep the shoulder in. And I think, I don't know

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if you've been through that. I know you and I

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have the positions we play, we've been through that before.

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Speaker 2: And like after you do it like.

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need to find a solution for this.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, And it's it's usually know, if we have a

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guy that has this injury, you know, it's there's there's

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a lot that goes into it.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 13: One of these themes that probably will come up almost

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every time we talk about these is severity. You know,

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we'll look at the guy, we'll do our physical exam,

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we'll talk to them, you know, we'll get the MRIs,

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we'll get the information, and then you have that discussion

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and it's it's really a shared decision making where right,

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you know, there's injuries where we're gonna tell a guy, look,

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you can't play with this. This is you know, you

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tear your A c L. I don't want you to

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destroy your kneed. Yeah, there's other injuries where it's like.

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Speaker 6: Don't pull the Philip Rivers and play in the AFC

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Championship game with no A c L.

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but then even there, you know, it's AFC Championship. How

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many of those do you get to? And we do

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have those discussions there and as much as health and

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safety always come first, there's an injury line that we

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sometimes are willing to cross. Right, it's a championship week

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championship game. Maybe I'm gonna play with something. And being

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a foreign player, I look at it that way as well,

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and I think that's what some of that is helpful.

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I'm like, look, I get it. I want to play. Yeah,

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you can't play with this. It's it's it's all relative.

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we talk to the guys, we look at the exams,

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we do all that, and then and then we talk

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about it.

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Speaker 2: We say what do you want to do? What is safe?

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Speaker 13: We give them the risk, and then we make that decision.

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Speaker 2: Doc.

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Speaker 8: When when it comes to like muscle tears, muscle injuries,

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if the decision is made for the for the player

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to play through the pain and make that decision too.

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I'm gonna play through it.

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Speaker 2: Like what is the process?

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00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,519
Speaker 8: Is the process different between trying to ease that pain

477
00:21:52,599 --> 00:21:54,799
and making it more comfortable for that player than it is?

478
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,039
Speaker 2: That's something more.

479
00:21:57,799 --> 00:22:01,519
Speaker 8: Something in a joint or structural like an injury with

480
00:22:01,559 --> 00:22:03,920
the bone or something like is that treatment? Because I

481
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,480
remember having an ac joint and it was more like

482
00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:09,640
cortzone light of cane type numb the pain, Like is

483
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:10,680
that the same with the muscle?

484
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 4: Can you just numb like that area? Like what's that treatment?

485
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:14,079
Speaker 2: Like?

486
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's all relative. So it depends on where's the muscle,

487
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,519
what is the injury. If if we feel comfortable that

488
00:22:19,559 --> 00:22:21,759
whatever the injury is, that you can play with seid

489
00:22:21,839 --> 00:22:25,359
injury and not really jeopardize your overall health in your future.

490
00:22:25,519 --> 00:22:27,759
If it's an ac joint, sure, if it's something that

491
00:22:27,799 --> 00:22:30,200
we can, you know, give you medicine for, it's not

492
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,000
gonna affect your cognition. So we're not gonna give you

493
00:22:32,039 --> 00:22:33,640
like a pain killer. We're not gonna give you a narcotic.

494
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,160
But we might say, yeah, I take some ivprof and

495
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,400
we might even do a little light of cane in

496
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,279
some areas where we can numb something up, as long

497
00:22:38,319 --> 00:22:39,680
as we feel very safe about it, and even that

498
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,240
we talked to the athlete, we make sure we're all

499
00:22:41,279 --> 00:22:43,480
on the same page. But yeah, there are times when

500
00:22:43,519 --> 00:22:45,720
it is pain, and there are certain muscle injuries where

501
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,599
that is the case. How severe was the injury, where's

502
00:22:47,599 --> 00:22:50,279
the injury located? But if it's a big tear. If

503
00:22:50,279 --> 00:22:52,279
it's something that's gonna, like again put you at risk,

504
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,680
well then we're not comfortable crossing that line.

505
00:22:55,039 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: All right.

506
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 6: So a lot of talk recently and we actually talked

507
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,519
about it last week high ankle springs, and there's a

508
00:23:01,519 --> 00:23:04,599
lot of different ankle sprains. When you hear like high

509
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,720
ankle sprain, there I say, yeah, why is the high

510
00:23:07,799 --> 00:23:10,119
ankle sprain different than a normal ankle sprain.

511
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,799
Speaker 13: So yeah, when we have ankle sprains, we break them down. Really,

512
00:23:12,839 --> 00:23:14,559
there's three areas in the ankle kin sprain. There's a

513
00:23:14,759 --> 00:23:16,599
lateral ankle, which is the outside of the ankle, which

514
00:23:16,599 --> 00:23:18,799
is the most common. There's the media ankle, which is

515
00:23:18,799 --> 00:23:20,759
the inside of the ankle, and then there's the high ankle.

516
00:23:21,079 --> 00:23:23,160
A high ankle sprain is when you have an injury

517
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,720
of the ligaments that basically attach the lower shin bones,

518
00:23:25,759 --> 00:23:27,960
so it's right above the ankle hents high ankle. So

519
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,240
the tibia and the fibulary are the two long bones

520
00:23:30,279 --> 00:23:31,759
below the knee that go down to the ankle and

521
00:23:31,799 --> 00:23:34,319
they form the ankle joint, at least the top portion

522
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,160
of it. Well, there are some ligaments to hold those

523
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,960
together and if you have a high ankle sprain, it's

524
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,680
going to be a sprain to one of those ligaments,

525
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,880
and sometimes multiple of those ligaments. So the problem is

526
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,799
that's a much more high stress area. The way I

527
00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:47,960
think of it is is if you think of the foot,

528
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,720
the top of the foot, which is the tallus, is

529
00:23:49,759 --> 00:23:52,799
almost like a wedge that pushes up into those two bones.

530
00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:54,920
And so it's I think about splitting firewood. You use

531
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,359
a wedge to split firewood. If if y'all ever done

532
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,759
that out there, and it's and that's kind of what's

533
00:23:59,759 --> 00:24:01,799
happened when you have that. You already have a partial

534
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,200
strain of those ligaments, and if you're pushing that wedge

535
00:24:04,279 --> 00:24:07,480
up into them, it's just a much higher risk injury.

536
00:24:07,519 --> 00:24:08,839
It's one that takes longer to heal.

537
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 8: You know.

538
00:24:09,039 --> 00:24:11,319
Speaker 13: The reason we all kind of grown is in general

539
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,559
it's a longer healing process than the others. Now, like

540
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,480
everything else, that the theme that comes up a lot

541
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:17,039
of severity.

542
00:24:17,079 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 2: How severe is it? Is it a mild, is it

543
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:19,759
a moderate? Is it severe?

544
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 13: Because sometimes if it's severe, we'll even talk surgery. We

545
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,960
talked about the tight ropes and the different procedures. You know,

546
00:24:25,079 --> 00:24:27,039
those are things that we sometimes do, and it comes

547
00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:29,279
down to that same discussion where it's kind of a

548
00:24:29,319 --> 00:24:32,519
shared decision. We look at the exams, but we also

549
00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:35,880
really look at the physical exam in addition to the MRI.

550
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,640
So we have the MRI, we have the imaging, but

551
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,119
then we say, well, look what can you do?

552
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 4: And is it a strength? Is it cutting? Is it

553
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,039
like bursts?

554
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 2: Like?

555
00:24:44,279 --> 00:24:45,079
Speaker 4: Is it all the above?

556
00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:45,839
Speaker 2: All the above?

557
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 13: And honestly, it starts with something as simple as can

558
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,400
you raise up on your foot? That's husually the first

559
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,319
thing that you want to see. You know, it sounds very,

560
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,119
very very elementary, but if a guy can raise up

561
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,440
on his toes, most of times, it's not a really

562
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,759
bad high ink, right, and we'll see that's probably the

563
00:24:58,799 --> 00:25:00,720
first big test I want to see before we even

564
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,559
talk about any of the others.

565
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 2: Can you just raise up?

566
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 13: And if you can't do that, I'm probably not gonna

567
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,200
be that comfortable with putting you anywhere near a field.

568
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:08,400
But if you can, then we moved to the can

569
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,880
you push off? Can you come out of the stands?

570
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,119
Can you sprint? Can you cut? And if you can

571
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,359
do all those things, you know, especially maybe brace you up,

572
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,920
we give a little extra support to the ankle and

573
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,640
do those things. Then then yeah, that's a guy that

574
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,119
will usually play. And if you can't, well we got

575
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:20,559
to see that.

576
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 8: Dot talk about the different grades and how y'all judge

577
00:25:24,559 --> 00:25:26,839
the severity of a hin ankle, because I remember I

578
00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:29,759
had a high ankle sprain from the Virginia Tech which

579
00:25:29,759 --> 00:25:30,839
is the second game of the year, and O seven

580
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,839
that the entire season is something I fought through. I

581
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,799
played with offensive line, right, Yeah, and then relax, everybody,

582
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:43,599
They're strong, they're not fat, They're just big. It was

583
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,759
actually explained to me the actually had a crack in

584
00:25:45,759 --> 00:25:47,279
one of the like I can't remember for the fiby

585
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,759
or the tibia, but like a high ankle spray sometimes

586
00:25:49,839 --> 00:25:53,400
is as a fracture of one of the bones. So

587
00:25:53,559 --> 00:25:55,680
is that part of the judge just talk talk about

588
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,160
the grades?

589
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 13: Yeah, so well, typically with grades, you know, it's kind

590
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,039
of usually a mild, modern severe, or a one two

591
00:26:01,079 --> 00:26:03,480
three in that order. Sometimes you know, you'll hear other

592
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,559
injuries where you add some other grading, but most injuries

593
00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:09,799
that's kind of how we break it down. And with

594
00:26:09,839 --> 00:26:11,680
the high ankle, a mild would be more of just

595
00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:14,039
kind of a stretch and irritation, probably only involving one

596
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,920
or two of the ligaments. When you get more into

597
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,160
the moderate, there's probably some partial tearing with those injuries.

598
00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:21,200
Usually it's gonna be more than one of those ligaments.

599
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,720
And then a severe is usually going to be a

600
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,960
complete tear where you even have some instability. Usually you're

601
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,640
gonna see some widening of the gap between those two bones.

602
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,759
Those are the ones who are almost always gonna fix.

603
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,720
And then yes, sometimes there is a fracture component of

604
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,119
all with it. You know, just because you have a

605
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,279
sprain or strain doesn't mean you don't have a fracture

606
00:26:36,279 --> 00:26:36,960
and vice versa.

607
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we look at all of that.

608
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,279
Speaker 13: If it's a very unstable injury with the fracture with

609
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,759
a lot of tearing, you know, that's that's something we

610
00:26:43,839 --> 00:26:46,279
probably fix. If it's a smaller injury, if we feel

611
00:26:46,279 --> 00:26:48,000
like we can stabilize it, if we feel like you

612
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,599
can do the things you have to do, if we

613
00:26:49,599 --> 00:26:51,599
can see that from you, then then that's one that

614
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:52,519
again we'll get.

615
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: You out there and we'll work with it.

616
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,319
Speaker 13: To your point, it's something that probably is not gonna heal,

617
00:26:57,559 --> 00:26:59,319
you know, throughout the year This is usually even the

618
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,559
mild ones, you're probably still gonna feel it. I mean,

619
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,559
even week one, you get to the end of the year,

620
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,839
if we are playing on it, you're still gonna feel.

621
00:27:05,839 --> 00:27:07,839
It's gonna get better, but you're still gonna feel it's

622
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,519
not gonna go away really until we let it heel.

623
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,599
Speaker 8: Yeah, they there there. Did you have one high ankle sprain?

624
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,160
No fast, They're brutal, man. They like if I just

625
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,000
remember feeling unstable and every time I pushed off, it

626
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:20,720
just hurt.

627
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: It just hurt.

628
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 8: Really, I mean it was it was like it there's

629
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,680
a different pain than I'd ever felt.

630
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 2: The in the stability part was.

631
00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:30,079
Speaker 6: Yeah, all my injuries were knee related for the most part.

632
00:27:30,279 --> 00:27:32,279
It's like how many times you get a helmet to

633
00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:33,960
the knee and it goes the other way. It's like, oh,

634
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,519
you got a spray. It's like, okay, what does a

635
00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:37,160
knee sprain? I don't really know what that means.

636
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, like it feels like there's nothing in there right now.

637
00:27:40,079 --> 00:27:41,839
Speaker 8: Just feels terrible. It just feels like it feels I

638
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,400
don't know, dog, it feels worse than a sprain. Do

639
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,240
you want to check it again?

640
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 2: Uh? So?

641
00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:49,519
Speaker 8: It's great, like the meniscus. Are we going up in

642
00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:51,839
the numbers. So grade one's mild or grade one is

643
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:52,359
like severe.

644
00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 13: So that's common situation, right, So the smaller the number

645
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,000
of the the less severe.

646
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 2: All right, so grade one is mind like.

647
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 8: My right ankle, I still have a pocket of swim

648
00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:01,279
only on top of my ankle.

649
00:28:01,039 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 2: From that injury.

650
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 4: Hey, you can get the exam later, but I check

651
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,799
it out with the clinic.

652
00:28:05,839 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I got this spot.

653
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 4: Well, I mean okay, is that the same for everything?

654
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 6: So like we're talking about high ankle sprain, Like I've

655
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,519
talked about knee sprains. I certainly had plenty of those

656
00:28:17,519 --> 00:28:19,279
where I'd get a helmet on it and be like, okay,

657
00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:22,440
well is that tormniscus because I know what that feels like.

658
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,359
Sure feels like the No, it's just a knee sprain.

659
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,119
So like severity situation same in.

660
00:28:26,079 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 13: The knee tip typically it is. Yes, you know, there's

661
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,599
every joint's gonna be a little bit different. Everything's gonna

662
00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:32,200
be a little different. But again, I think the first

663
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,079
thing we talk about with any injuries house severe. So

664
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,079
you know if you have you have a knee sprain, well,

665
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,559
which ligament. Is it that does back if we're talking

666
00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:41,160
about one ligament versus another. And then then we start

667
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,039
talking severity. Is it a mild injury?

668
00:28:43,119 --> 00:28:43,319
Speaker 9: Is it?

669
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,119
Speaker 2: Is it moderate? Is it severe?

670
00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 13: And and sometimes you know, even if it's pretty snick

671
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,599
in injury, it may not be surgical. Other times and

672
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,559
more mild, you know, a small tear in the meniscus

673
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,079
is probably something we're gonna have to address, right, So

674
00:28:54,119 --> 00:28:55,279
it's it's all kind of relative.

675
00:28:57,039 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 4: I uh, yeahsh I don't even know if I have

676
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,319
any meniscus.

677
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 8: Like, yeah, what is O about it? Had felt the

678
00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:06,279
niska yea? Had the old microfracture surgery? Cand you explain?

679
00:29:06,359 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 6: Can you explain that one to our listeners, because that's

680
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,680
try to explain it sometimes and I don't think I

681
00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:11,240
do a good job.

682
00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:12,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, So so microfracture.

683
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,839
Speaker 13: So there's basically when we talk about the knee, you

684
00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:18,319
have the condril cartilage, which is the cartilage that covers

685
00:29:18,319 --> 00:29:19,839
the bone. So and each the two bones that form

686
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,319
the knee, the tibia and the femur, there's some cartilage

687
00:29:22,359 --> 00:29:24,559
that covers those bones that's condril cartilage. And when you

688
00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:27,720
get a defect in that, that typically doesn't heal that well.

689
00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:29,160
So if you get a little divid or a pop

690
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,680
mark or something like that, you're gonna have to do

691
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,440
something with it. Usually now, all things relative, the body

692
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,559
can compensate, but if if we're going to try and

693
00:29:35,599 --> 00:29:38,240
do something with it, you know, one of the procedures

694
00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:40,359
that that's been commonly done is a microfracture, where we

695
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,160
literally drilled little abd holes into the bone under it.

696
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,000
And what you're hoping by doing that is that you

697
00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:47,359
stimulate the body. You maybe even get in the bone

698
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,400
marrow a little bit, You release some of the bone

699
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,599
marre of some of the stem cells, some of there

700
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,640
are things that help heal recover, and the hope is

701
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,319
that some of that cartilage heals. It's not a perfect fix, yeah,

702
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,720
and that's one thing that we're still fall a little

703
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,759
bit short of, is the perfect fix for cartilage injuries.

704
00:29:59,759 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: That's why they can be a real bear.

705
00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:03,119
Speaker 13: But if you make what's there a little bit healthier,

706
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,440
if you can make it a little bit thicker, if

707
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,599
you can get some degree of recovery there, well that's

708
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,440
better than nothing. And that's kind of the idea with

709
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,279
the microfracture.

710
00:30:10,319 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was fun. It's fun to come back from.

711
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,079
I didn't know the rehab was going to be quite

712
00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:14,799
what it was.

713
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,279
Speaker 6: Off of that, I was thinking, Oh, it's going to

714
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be a miniscus and I've had a meniscus surgery.

715
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,559
Speaker 4: Em played like eight days later. It's gonna be fine.

716
00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:21,359
It was not that.

717
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 13: It's a little different, well, in part because you gotta

718
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,319
let it heal. You know, you're you're you're drilling those

719
00:30:24,359 --> 00:30:26,000
little bit holes. You gotta let it try to heal.

720
00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:28,240
At least that's gonna do that. They don't always.

721
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: They didn't do that. Didn't do that.

722
00:30:31,359 --> 00:30:33,319
Speaker 6: All right there, doctor stephn Ather, it's good enough to

723
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,880
join us every single week here on OTB break down

724
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,400
some of the injuries across the sports world.

725
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,759
Speaker 4: Doc, we appreciate it as always, sir, Oh, it's my pleasure.

726
00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: All right.

727
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,599
Speaker 4: We'll take a break more OTB when we come back.

728
00:30:43,640 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: On the other side, off the bench, from players to legends,

729
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,960
Hester and Flynn breakdown L s U football like only

730
00:31:08,079 --> 00:31:08,880
champions can.

731
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 9: On the perfect day. I know that I can't go.

732
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,279
That's not possible.

733
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:39,839
Speaker 4: Are you laughing at him?

734
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: There? Uh, chat.

735
00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:48,759
Speaker 8: Man, I can't believe that were getting I was trying

736
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:49,920
to get a free examine here.

737
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,559
Speaker 6: Do you want to throw your ankle up on the

738
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,880
I'm trying to avoid those code pays, my god, Like, hey.

739
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,559
Speaker 2: So like, got doc in here. I want to get

740
00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:00,680
a little check, just like.

741
00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 6: If you sprain your ankle in two thousand and seven,

742
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,400
eighteen years ago, and you should have got a little

743
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,359
pocket of fluid there.

744
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,119
Speaker 4: I'm just saying.

745
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,839
Speaker 8: I was just making mention of it because I always

746
00:32:11,839 --> 00:32:15,079
think it's hypothetically I got two injuries that like, I

747
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,920
still have things from it. It's like a gift from

748
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,039
the football gods. I take pride in that little pocket.

749
00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:20,240
And song I was trying to brag.

750
00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 3: You also did ask if you had two to warn labrams.

751
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,079
Speaker 8: Yeah, true, trying to get that I might push ups today.

752
00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:30,640
He might send you a bill, he might send me bo.

753
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,039
Speaker 2: He got an opportunity to avoid some capes. You're gonna

754
00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:34,799
take advantage of it.

755
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 5: No, I think we should take turns. Like every week

756
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,000
he comes in, we each ask him about an issue

757
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:39,319
we have.

758
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:46,279
Speaker 8: Yep, Doc, I got this new mole, so should I.

759
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,839
Speaker 4: It's not a dermatologist, sure, he's an orthopedic.

760
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:49,599
Speaker 2: This is a side of.

761
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,599
Speaker 3: Aging or is just like a problem like whatever, I

762
00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:53,559
don't hear that right, you know.

763
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 5: So this screw in my head? Uh huh am, I

764
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,599
gonna have to get it replaced at some point.

765
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: We should on air checkups.

766
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,759
Speaker 3: Not screwing my head, but I feel like it's a

767
00:33:01,759 --> 00:33:03,240
little rusty. What are your thoughts.

768
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 6: I do find it fascinating, like all the different grades

769
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,920
of sprains and stuff, because I don't know, like when

770
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,920
I hear sprain, I'm like, Okay, well that means I'm playing.

771
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,039
Speaker 4: That means I'm good. But not every positions the same

772
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,319
to you know what I mean?

773
00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 6: And I never had I said, I never had a

774
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,640
high ankle, and I've always heard like if you have

775
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,400
a sprain, that's the worst one that you can have,

776
00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:27,839
and all jokes is like you've been through that. You

777
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:32,079
had giant ankle braces. Giant, I mean you really did,

778
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:32,759
Like you had those big.

779
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 8: One side of them was pretty narrow because my ankles

780
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:40,519
are very shapely, but the outside was thickum.

781
00:33:40,559 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 4: But seriously, like what I don't I've never been do that.

782
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,039
I had knees sprains.

783
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 6: But it's like, hey, sorry, Bud, go out, Like I

784
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:50,400
don't really know about that.

785
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 8: It's kind of like what we talked about the other

786
00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:55,640
couple of weeks ago turf Town, like that doesn't sound

787
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,119
bad either.

788
00:33:56,519 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

789
00:33:57,039 --> 00:33:59,359
Speaker 8: Yeah, all sprains are not created equal, that's for sure.

790
00:33:59,799 --> 00:34:02,839
That when I had that high ankle, but give me

791
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,000
two three tight ripes.

792
00:34:04,279 --> 00:34:06,119
Speaker 6: I mean it was Middle Tennessee that you missed, right,

793
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,239
you know, seven and then you came back. You sitting

794
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,159
in South Carolina.

795
00:34:09,519 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 8: But if you remember, like part of our offense was

796
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,039
me running a decent you ran. You had one hundred

797
00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:19,159
attempts that year. Yeah, and it was like it was

798
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:21,719
with the big old ankle brace and literally offensive lineman

799
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,599
shoes for multiple games.

800
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,039
Speaker 6: When you say offensive lineman shoes. Yeah, you had Timberland

801
00:34:27,079 --> 00:34:28,360
zone out there, basically the.

802
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 8: Old shark bottoms, not the fat kids, the two for

803
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,239
ones that academy. For sure, did you go did you

804
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,480
have to go like to the the local I'm going

805
00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:49,559
to try to pull it up local sporting store to

806
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:53,920
go get some peewee footboxes, the shark bottoms, that's the

807
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,440
only one that that big brace that they had, which

808
00:34:56,519 --> 00:34:59,000
at that time was like state of the art technology

809
00:34:59,079 --> 00:35:02,360
that was brace wise. I remember Maricchi had found that brace.

810
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,519
I'm got making these braces and only a couple people

811
00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:06,239
had had it.

812
00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:07,119
Speaker 2: And.

813
00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know what a state of art

814
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,960
about it. It just looked like a piece of plastic. Yeah,

815
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:14,440
it's brutal.

816
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 6: So look Elise, she's gonna through some injuries, had some

817
00:35:18,519 --> 00:35:24,239
against Louisiana attack. Not quite sure, but oh my god,

818
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,960
those shoes are Wow, you're wearing work bootsing out there.

819
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 2: That's an element.

820
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 6: Hey, we got to get you this picture so you

821
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,880
can be able to put it up on the on

822
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:34,599
the screen there.

823
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's like all these chords.

824
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 8: It's just this random website that looks like I could

825
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,360
pay five ninety nine for this picture.

826
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,039
Speaker 6: Go ahead and also go ahead and go to Rouse's

827
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:50,480
and Rouses dot com. We're gonna be at Rouses on Friday,

828
00:35:50,679 --> 00:35:53,519
every single Friday during football season, so come hang out

829
00:35:53,559 --> 00:35:53,920
with us.

830
00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:56,599
Speaker 4: Love to have the interaction there.

831
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,159
Speaker 6: As we said, a lot of people sitting there eating breakfast,

832
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,719
listening to this ship get a chance to, you know,

833
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,960
talk a little ball between breaks there. So we'd love

834
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,639
for you to come out, come hang out with us.

835
00:36:06,679 --> 00:36:09,559
Always a lot of fun at Rouses every single Friday,

836
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:11,119
and right now, if you want to check out the

837
00:36:11,159 --> 00:36:14,159
local deals you've got going on. Just put your zip code,

838
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ins can pull up the closest rouses to you and

839
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:17,519
you can go.

840
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 4: And check out those deals and take advantage of those deals.

841
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:27,000
Do we have your giant work boots? He does not.

842
00:36:27,159 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 6: Okay, we will fix the technology and we'll have those

843
00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:30,480
for you.

844
00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:33,159
Speaker 4: We've still got a lot coming your way here.

845
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 6: We're gonna continue on OTB on one four five ESPN

846
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,400
and benterage off the bench.

847
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,079
Speaker 4: Just give him the thumbs up. Go to get Gordon

848
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dot com.

849
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 6: Get Gordon dot com is the website Gordon Curtin Injury Attorneys.

850
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Speaker 2: Right.

851
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 6: You still got the billboard contest going on right now,

852
00:36:54,519 --> 00:36:56,320
so you've got that if you want to take.

853
00:36:56,159 --> 00:36:56,679
Speaker 4: Care of that.

854
00:36:57,079 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 6: If you want to enter your whatever your design into

855
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,360
it right and then to drive around town. You want

856
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,840
to see yourself on a billboard. Also, you know you

857
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,480
can see what they can do for you in the courtroom.

858
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Get Gordon dot com, pass climb results, all that right there,

859
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anywhere in the state of Louisiana.

860
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 4: Get Gordon, get it done.

861
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 2: That's right.

862
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,679
Speaker 8: If you've been injured, whether it's a car accident, whether

863
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,239
you've ben work injured up at work on the job

864
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,440
site whatever it is called the people that you know

865
00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:22,800
that Louisiana Trust has been helping people in Louisiana for

866
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,519
a long long time get what they deserve. So if

867
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:28,000
you've been injured, give them a call that eight eight

868
00:37:28,039 --> 00:37:29,880
eight eight eight eight eight, doesn't matter where you are

869
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,800
in Louisiana. That is the phone number. Get on the

870
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:42,760
g team, be a part of it. Get Gordon dot com.

871
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, from the locker room to the airwaves. Gets off

872
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,079
the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.

873
00:37:50,559 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, Maybe I just don't get it. Do you

874
00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:02,320
enjoy being hurt?

875
00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:07,159
Speaker 2: I know you smell the perfume, the makeup of the shirt.

876
00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 3: You don't believe his stories.

877
00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 6: You know that there are lives bad as.

878
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 9: You walk, you stick around and I just don't know

879
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,000
why you got.

880
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: What your man?

881
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 9: Baby.

882
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,639
Speaker 2: You never worry about what I do not because hold

883
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,039
back to you every night.

884
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 9: Do when you're write the type of Wama surf, good day,

885
00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:33,599
this Phenomon headful ring yourself.

886
00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:37,039
Speaker 4: I just want to show you you are Are you

887
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:39,480
working back? It is off the bench?

888
00:38:42,199 --> 00:38:44,559
Speaker 6: Did we have you unplugged so we don't even have

889
00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:46,840
a do we have your ankles?

890
00:38:48,039 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 4: You're giant cleats. Wait, why'd you unplug in the first place.

891
00:38:53,519 --> 00:38:55,440
That's why we took a break, like on time.

892
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 2: Hey, everybody's these relax catching a lot of persecution, all.

893
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 6: Right, while you're looking it up on our friends about

894
00:39:04,119 --> 00:39:06,800
go Tommy's g E A U X Tommy's with the

895
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:11,679
Y Go Tommies dot com is the website. Sorry, Tayley,

896
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,159
that you're good. Go tommy dot com is a website.

897
00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:18,159
You'll clearly see the difference there. Gallery of work. Also,

898
00:39:18,199 --> 00:39:22,400
remember then customize your job hanging the banners. Every single year,

899
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,000
year after year they went awards, including twenty twenty five

900
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,639
in the Advocate Best Windows, Tommy's Windows, Doors, and siting

901
00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:33,639
Go Tommy's dot com.

902
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,079
Speaker 4: All right, we good to go?

903
00:39:35,679 --> 00:39:38,159
Speaker 3: My god, I mean it's connected. I'm waiting to pull up.

904
00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:40,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I deleted it.

905
00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 4: What are you doing? You mean we we said that's

906
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,199
what we were doing. Coming back.

907
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 2: I didn't.

908
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,159
Speaker 5: Googling pictures of yourself is objectively really funny, weird.

909
00:39:52,519 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 8: I'm trying to google fat pictures and I can't find it.

910
00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's just too good in most of these.

911
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, my ankles, look you good. That's exactly right. All right?

912
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 6: Sorry, well, no, it's over. Oh my god, yeah, you

913
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,719
crashed and burned. Can you leave early?

914
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, sure you want me to.

915
00:40:12,639 --> 00:40:15,119
Speaker 4: I think you need to get out of here. I

916
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,639
think you need to kindly leave.

917
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna beat it seriously.

918
00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:24,559
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, he actually really.

919
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,679
Speaker 2: Am I have I am a fox old guy. I

920
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,760
have to my high business.

921
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 8: I gotta attend to I gotta go provide the world

922
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,480
with incredible hydration.

923
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: What do you have to do? Huh? What do you

924
00:40:35,039 --> 00:40:37,159
have to do? I got a little show, a little

925
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,199
uh little expo. I'm going to set up SLINKs in

926
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,159
my high how.

927
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,559
Speaker 6: High I got my high hair?

928
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:44,559
Speaker 2: Got my high hair?

929
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,119
Speaker 4: Is that like that kind of show?

930
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,079
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.

931
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 6: People will and you're like, hey, you like hydration.

932
00:40:55,199 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: No, you like cadration. You're gonna live it is?

933
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 4: I mean, seriously, that's what we're doing here.

934
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 8: Uh No, we're going to set up a we got

935
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,320
a little trade show. We're going to set up so

936
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:07,280
we will be.

937
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,079
Speaker 2: Yeah. We pretty much.

938
00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:12,039
Speaker 8: We go and we give samples, we talk about the product,

939
00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:16,159
we give the product away and good opportunities. It open

940
00:41:16,159 --> 00:41:20,119
to the public. Is not wow, it's private event. Whoa

941
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,079
but well, you know, it is welcome to the public. No,

942
00:41:25,159 --> 00:41:27,079
I don't go into ralses and buying my eye or

943
00:41:27,199 --> 00:41:29,239
going to our website. Signed up for a little subscription

944
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,199
service you can get like a monthly delivery. Don't e

945
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,519
just click it and forget it.

946
00:41:34,559 --> 00:41:36,639
Speaker 4: I think somebody's used that before. I don't think you know,

947
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:37,039
this is.

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Speaker 2: The first time I just coined it. Can I trademark that? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I am sorry. I don't like to leave.

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probably wasn't smart. Yeah, the last ten years of my

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Speaker 4: Nine Really, I'm dedicated this show.

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Speaker 2: I'm dedicated to just not as much.

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Speaker 5: You should call in from the call in Yeah, you

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Speaker 8: Okay, it's about thirty minute drive though, so by the

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in you just drive, drive with your knee, and I'm

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Speaker 5: That's great advice.

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Speaker 4: Uh well okay, yeah sure, yeah hmm.

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Speaker 2: I know I was not.

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Speaker 6: In Hour number three, we are going to have Dear Delandre.

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the SEC break down some of the other matchups outside

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Speaker 4: So we do have a big Hour number three coming

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Speaker 6: Go ahead and get those Dear delandr questions inside the

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BUYU for chat and we'll do that probably at nine

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to fifteen. We'll give you some time to get those

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questions in again. How many teams are we eliminating three today?

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Speaker 2: Who cares?

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Speaker 4: Six oh six?

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Speaker 3: I'm going down to the getting to the final four,

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the final four today, all.

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Speaker 6: Right, the final four of Taylor's new NFL team that

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he can root for because he's given up on the Cowboys.

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We've got all that coming your way. Hey, Flynn, go

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fly kite, get out of here, take a hike.

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Speaker 4: We got this off the bench.

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