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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the quart Side. Quantum Physics podcast, an exploration

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<v Speaker 1>of the fundamental structure of reality where quantum laws govern matter, energy,

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<v Speaker 1>and information. Here, uncertainty is a feature, not a flaw,

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<v Speaker 1>and understanding begins at the smallest scales.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when you think about the microscopic world, it's

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<v Speaker 2>easy to imagine it as this totally chaotic place, just

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of particles bumping into each other randomly.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, just sort of microscopic soup.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, But there's actually an absolute dictator that governs

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<v Speaker 2>how every single particle behaves. And it's not gravity, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not some mystical force.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's symmetry, which I mean is a word we

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<v Speaker 3>use all the time in everyday life, but in physics

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<v Speaker 3>it's an entirely different beast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because when you look at the atomic structure of

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<v Speaker 2>a crystal, symmetry doesn't just describe, you know, how pretty

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<v Speaker 2>or repeating the pattern is. It acts as a strict

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<v Speaker 2>mathematical rule.

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<v Speaker 3>Book, a very rigid rule book. It dictates exactly how

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<v Speaker 3>atoms are arranged and more importantly, how they are allowed to.

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<v Speaker 2>Move, and it specifically hands out absolute do not interact

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<v Speaker 2>orders between certain vibrations, Like, if two vibrations don't share

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<v Speaker 2>the right symmetry, they are categorically forbidden from mixing.

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<v Speaker 3>They cannot mix. It acts as an impenetrable wall. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>in solid state physics we rely heavily on those exact

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<v Speaker 3>selection rules. They give order to the chaos of billions

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<v Speaker 3>of atoms jiggling around. Right, If symmetry says two quantum

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<v Speaker 3>states can't couple, they don't. We treat that as a

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<v Speaker 3>fundamental constant of the material.

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<v Speaker 2>But today we are looking at a breakthrough that actually

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<v Speaker 2>found a loophole in that exact rule book. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to explore how a truly bizarre quantum state actively rewrites

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<v Speaker 2>the rigid rules of symmetry in a crystal.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and this isn't just a theoretical curiosity either. It

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<v Speaker 3>can completely changes the way we can manipulate quantum.

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<v Speaker 2>Materials because understanding this loophole is basically a gateway to

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<v Speaker 2>the future of quantum technology. So for you listening, this

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<v Speaker 2>isn't just abstract math. This is the physical foundation for

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<v Speaker 2>the next generation of tech exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But to understand how a rule that fundamental gives been

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<v Speaker 3>we first have to look at the material where this

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<v Speaker 3>actually happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, we have to meet the rule breaker.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we're dealing with a specific type of layered crystal,

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<v Speaker 3>a transition metal to calcagenide.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is quite the mouthful, it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, But basically inside this material, the ions and

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<v Speaker 3>electrons don't just sit in a standard boring grid. They

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<v Speaker 3>spontaneously rearrange.

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<v Speaker 2>Themselves, okay, rearrange how.

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<v Speaker 3>Into a static wavelike pattern across the crystal lattice. Physicists

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<v Speaker 3>call this a charge density wave.

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<v Speaker 2>A charge density way. So instead of electrons just zipping

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<v Speaker 2>around freely like they do, and say, a normal copper

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<v Speaker 2>wire in your house, right, a normal conductor, right, they're

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<v Speaker 2>bunching up in a periodic pattern like ripples frozen on

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<v Speaker 2>a pond.

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<v Speaker 3>That's actually a really good way to picture it, for

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<v Speaker 3>a frozen ripples. And the specific way they bunch up

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<v Speaker 3>in this material is fascinating. The distortion causes the atoms

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<v Speaker 3>to shift slightly, forming this intricate microscopic tiling of clusters.

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<v Speaker 2>And these clusters have a very specific shape, right they do.

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<v Speaker 3>They look remarkably like the Star of David, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally a six pointed star. Geometry just down at the

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<v Speaker 2>atomic level.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly, And here is where it gets highly exotic.

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<v Speaker 3>These Star of David clusters don't just form symmetrically. They

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<v Speaker 3>have a built in twist and twist, yeah, they can

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<v Speaker 3>lock into one of two distinct orientations, effectively giving the

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<v Speaker 3>crystal a handedness.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, wait, handedness like left and right hands precisely.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, similar to how your left hand in right hand

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<v Speaker 3>or mirror images. But you can't perfectly superimpose them on

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<v Speaker 3>top of each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Right if you put a right handed glove on your

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<v Speaker 2>left hand, it doesn't fit exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>In physics, we call this planar chirality. When a crystal

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<v Speaker 3>establish is this handed pattern, it enters a quantum state

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<v Speaker 3>known as ferro axial order.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, ferro axial order. Let me make sure I'm visualizing

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<v Speaker 2>this right for you guys listening. I'm picturing a microscopic

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<v Speaker 2>floor tile pattern made of the Star of David shapes.

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<v Speaker 2>But half the floor might be tiled with like left

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<v Speaker 2>handed stars and the other half is tiled with right

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<v Speaker 2>handed stars.

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<v Speaker 3>You're definitely on the right track with that. But the

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<v Speaker 3>challenge with this specific floor pattern is that you can

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<v Speaker 3>actually see it with our standard scientific tool.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, why not. If it's a physical distortion of the

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<v Speaker 2>electrons and the atoms. Shouldn't we be able to just

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<v Speaker 2>bounce X rays off it or measure its electric field.

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<v Speaker 3>You would think so, but fur axial order is incredibly elusive.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, think about a standard ferromagnet, like a magnet

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<v Speaker 3>on your fridge. It has a net magnetic moment. All

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<v Speaker 3>the little atomic compass needles point the same way. So

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<v Speaker 3>if you bring a magnetic field near it, it reacts.

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<v Speaker 3>You can measure that reaction easily.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it snaps right onto the fridge.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But this for axial order doesn't have a net

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<v Speaker 3>electrical dipole, and it doesn't have a net magnetic.

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<v Speaker 2>Moment because of the way the stars are arranged.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, because of how the symmetry is broken, those classical

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<v Speaker 3>properties perfectly cancel each other out.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, so it doesn't react to magnets and it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't react to electric fields at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Nope. Standard optical experiments and conventional probes pass right through it.

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<v Speaker 3>They are completely blind to whether the domains are left

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<v Speaker 3>handed or right handed.

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<v Speaker 2>It's basically a ghost to our standard scientific metal detector.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great way to put it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but wait, if it's effectively a ghost, how do

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<v Speaker 2>we even know it's there? Are we just guessing that

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<v Speaker 2>these left and right handed stars exist in the crystal?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, we're not guessing. We know they're there because the

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<v Speaker 3>pattern isn't a frozen, rigid thing. It's a highly coordinated

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<v Speaker 3>dynamic structure.

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<v Speaker 2>Meaning it moves.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, those Star of David clusters vibrate, but it's not

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<v Speaker 3>just a random jiggle from heat. They move together in

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<v Speaker 3>a collective synchronized vibration.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at microscopic dance routine sort of, but more like breathing.

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<v Speaker 3>The entire wave pattern periodically expands and contracts in unison.

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<v Speaker 3>It modulates its own strength. Oh. Interesting, and physicists have

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<v Speaker 3>a highly specific term for this collective breathing motion of

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<v Speaker 3>a charged density wave. They call it an amplitude on.

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<v Speaker 2>An amplitude on. Honestly, it sounds like a giant robot

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<v Speaker 2>from an old sci fi movie.

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<v Speaker 3>It does sound like a transformer or something, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really just the amplitude of this electron wave pulsing

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<v Speaker 2>in and out right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the amplitude mode. Now Here's where the central mystery

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<v Speaker 3>of this whole research comes into play. Inside this crystal

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<v Speaker 3>you have this highly specialized amplitude on breathing away, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but the crystal also has ordinary vibrations, just the regular

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<v Speaker 3>lattice of atoms jiggling back and forth due to thermal energy.

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<v Speaker 3>Those regular vibrations are called phonons.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So you have the amplitude and breathing and the

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<v Speaker 2>phonons jiggling. And because they're in the exact same crystal,

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<v Speaker 2>occupying the exact same physical space, they must be bumping

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<v Speaker 2>into each other, right, I mean they're literally sharing the

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<v Speaker 2>same atoms.

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<v Speaker 3>You would intuitively think so. Remember the absolute dictator we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about earlier. Symmetry, Yeah, the rule book. Yes, the

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<v Speaker 3>amplitude has a very specific symmetry profile and the ordinary

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<v Speaker 3>phonons have a completely different symmetry profile. Mathematically, their wave

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<v Speaker 3>functions are orthogonal.

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<v Speaker 2>Orthogonal, meaning they cross perfectly in a way that creates

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely zero interaction.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly zero. It is a cosmic soundproof wall. Even though

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<v Speaker 3>they are happening in the exact same material. The rules

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<v Speaker 3>of quantum mechanics dictate that these two distinct vibrations cannot mix, couple,

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<v Speaker 3>or exchange energy at all.

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<v Speaker 2>That is wild. The amplitude and essentially doesn't know the

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<v Speaker 2>ordinary vibrations exist. They're sharing the same dance floor, but

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<v Speaker 2>completely ignoring each other's music.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly what's happening, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But to even test if that soundproof wall holds up,

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<v Speaker 2>the researchers had to be able to listen to the crystal.

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<v Speaker 2>If electricity and magnetism are off the table, what's left?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you probe an invisible ghost?

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<v Speaker 3>Well you had to get incredibly creative with light. Researchers

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<v Speaker 3>at UT Austin and the Max Planck Institute realized they

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't just use standard linear light. They had to use

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<v Speaker 3>a specialized technique called holicity resolved ram and scattering.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, holicity resolved, break down the mechanism there, what is

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<v Speaker 2>the light actually doing?

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<v Speaker 3>So they hit the crystal with circularly polarized light. Imagine

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<v Speaker 3>the electric field of the light wave not just waving

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<v Speaker 3>up and down, but physically rotating as it travels through space.

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<v Speaker 2>Like tracing out a corkscrew pattern.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly like a quarkscrew.

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<v Speaker 2>So the light itself has a handedness. It's twisting either

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<v Speaker 2>clockwise or counterclockwise.

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely it carries angular momentum. Yeah, Now, when this twisting

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<v Speaker 3>light hits a chiral structure, a structure that also has handedness,

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<v Speaker 3>like our star of David flore, the absorption and scattering

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<v Speaker 3>of that light won't be symmetric.

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<v Speaker 2>Ugh, I think I see where this is going. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like trying to drive or right handed screw into a

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I like that right.

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<v Speaker 2>If I spin my screwdriver to the right, matching the

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<v Speaker 2>thread of the screw, it catches, It bites into the wood,

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<v Speaker 2>and I get a really strong reaction. But if I

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<v Speaker 2>take that same right handed screw and I spin my

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<v Speaker 2>screwdriver to the left, it just slips. It doesn't couple

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<v Speaker 2>at all.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a highly accurate mechanical analogy in the crystal.

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<v Speaker 3>When the graduate student running these experiments shoind you paying

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<v Speaker 3>matched the twisting direction of the light to the handedness

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<v Speaker 3>of the feroxial domain, they saw a massive peak in

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<v Speaker 3>the scattered light intensity. Wow. But when they hit that

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<v Speaker 3>same exact spot with light twisting the opposite direction, the

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<v Speaker 3>response was incredibly.

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<v Speaker 2>Weak because it just slipped. The light didn't catch the

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<v Speaker 2>symmetry of the crystal.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. By measuring that difference, the intensity imbalance between the

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<v Speaker 3>left handed and right handed light responses. They could finally

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<v Speaker 3>map out the invisible They could clearly see the microscopic

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<v Speaker 3>handedness of the crystal.

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<v Speaker 2>That is such an elegant solution. You bypass the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that it ignores magnets by literally just matching its physical

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<v Speaker 2>twist with like op tweezer.

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<v Speaker 3>It's brilliant experimental physics.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so now they can finally see the ghosts. They

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<v Speaker 2>map out the left and right handed domains. Where does

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<v Speaker 2>the broken roll book come in? Where does symmetry fail?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? Once they could see the pattern, they wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>see how it behaved under different conditions, So they started

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<v Speaker 3>carefully tuning the temperature of the crystal.

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<v Speaker 2>Why temperature does heating it up just make everything vibrate faster?

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, in this specific case, it does something totally counterintuitive.

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<v Speaker 3>As you heat this material up, you bring it closer

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<v Speaker 3>to the temperature where the charge density wave phase completely melts.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that is fascinating. So by turning a temperature dial

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<v Speaker 2>on the outside of the sample, you are actively tuning

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<v Speaker 2>the internal frequency of this specific quantum dance routine. You're

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you are tuning the amplitude on. Now, remember those

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<v Speaker 2>The ones that the amplitude on is strictly forbidden from

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Well, their frequencies stay relatively constant as the temperature changes.

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<v Speaker 2>going to cross. Eventually, their frequencies are going to cross.

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<v Speaker 3>Perfectly they are, And that is exactly where Francesco Barentani

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<v Speaker 3>and the rest of the research team made their massive observation.

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<v Speaker 3>As they tune the temperature, they monitor that specific light

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<v Speaker 3>intensity imbalance we talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>Earlier, the screw catching or slipping.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. They found that the chiral signal the imbalance spike

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<v Speaker 3>to its absolute maximum precisely when the energy of the

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<v Speaker 2>Let's pause right there, because this feels like the absolute

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<v Speaker 2>core of the breakthrough symmetry says they cannot interact, But

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<v Speaker 2>you're telling me that when their frequencies match perfectly, they do.

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<v Speaker 3>They do more than interact, They profoundly influence one another.

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<v Speaker 3>Theorist emil Vinas Bostrom describes what happens as a resonant bridge.

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<v Speaker 2>A resonant bridge.

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<v Speaker 3>Under normal conditions, those two vibrational modes are locked in

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<v Speaker 3>energies to align perfectly, the rules of symmetry become dynamically.

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<v Speaker 2>Loosened, dynamically loosen. I'm trying to picture the mechanics of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Does a symmetry just turn off like a light switch.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't turn off permanently, but at that exact resonant frequency,

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<v Speaker 3>the wave functions of the two modes are allowed to mix.

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<v Speaker 3>The amplitude essentially acts as a bridge, suddenly linking the

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<v Speaker 3>lower energy atomic motions with the higher energy electronic state

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<v Speaker 3>of the crystal.

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<v Speaker 2>So the soundproof wall gets a temporary window.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, a window suddenly opens up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like finding a hidden terms of service agreement in

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<v Speaker 2>the laws of physics, like symmetry applies strictly at all

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the two locked rooms suddenly share a smuggler's tunnel,

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<v Speaker 2>passing quantum information back and forth.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a fundamental shift in how we view selection rules. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the researchers didn't just observe this anomaly. They built a

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<v Speaker 3>comprehensive microscopic theory to explain the exact mechanics of how

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<v Speaker 3>these electronic fluctuations actively coupled to crystal vibrations that symmetry

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<v Speaker 3>usually keeps completely isolated.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a massive win for theoretical physics. But you

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<v Speaker 2>know me, I always want to know what this means. Practically,

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<v Speaker 2>finding a loophole on a chalkboard is great, but exploiting

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<v Speaker 2>it in the real world is where technology actually changes, and.

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<v Speaker 3>That transition to the real world is where a group

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<v Speaker 3>at the University of Hamburg comes into the picture. Michael

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<v Speaker 3>Rubhausen's group took these findings, confirmed the robustness of the

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<v Speaker 3>model and highlighted a point that completely transforms the utility

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what's the point this entire.

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<v Speaker 3>Effect, this resonant bridging, this loosening of symmetry, It operates

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<v Speaker 3>robustly at room temperature.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, hold on, you have to explain how that is possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time we discuss exotic quantum states or delicate wave

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<v Speaker 2>functions mixing, we are talking about massive, multi million dollar

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<v Speaker 2>lab freezers chilling things down to near absolute zero.

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<v Speaker 3>Right usually, how.

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<v Speaker 2>On earth is this surviving the chaotic thermal noise of

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<v Speaker 2>a room temperature environment. Shouldn't the ambient heat just violently

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<v Speaker 2>scramble the pattern?

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<v Speaker 3>And most systems, yes, absolutely, Thermal fun ons cause rapid decoherence.

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<v Speaker 3>The heat destroys the delicate quantum states. But the coupling

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<v Speaker 3>here driven by this resonant bridging is incredibly strong. And

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<v Speaker 3>more importantly, it occurs on ultra fast time scales. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I see the interaction outpaces the thermal noise.

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<v Speaker 2>So it happens so fast the heat literally doesn't have

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<v Speaker 3>This phenomenon has been termed resonant chiral dressing.

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<v Speaker 2>Chiral dressing. Okay, I want to make sure I understand

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<v Speaker 2>dressing in a quantum context. We aren't talking about putting

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<v Speaker 3>Right, not quite a coat. In quantum mechanics, dressing refers

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<v Speaker 3>to how a material's fundamental properties are altered when it

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<v Speaker 3>strongly couples with a photon field.

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<v Speaker 2>A photon field so light yes.

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<v Speaker 3>In this case an ultrafast laser pulse. The light doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>just bounce off material, It temporarily merges with the material's identity,

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<v Speaker 3>creating a hybridized state. The crystal is dressed by the

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<v Speaker 3>light field.

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<v Speaker 2>So by using the right twist of light at the

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<v Speaker 2>exact right resonant frequency, you are temporarily dressing the material,

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<v Speaker 2>which bridges the symmetry gap, allowing these completely isolated quantum

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<v Speaker 2>states to talk to each other. Yes, and you can

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<v Speaker 2>do all of this sitting on a normal desk in

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<v Speaker 3>You're starting to see the true power of this. It

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<v Speaker 3>provides a highly practical new route to probe and actively

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<v Speaker 3>control ferro axial quantum states without the crippling overhead of

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<v Speaker 2>That completely bypasses one of the biggest roadblocks in quantum

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<v Speaker 3>It really does. Scientists can now use ultrafast laser pulses

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<v Speaker 3>precisely tuned to these resonant energies to selectively turn on

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<v Speaker 3>these forbidden interactions. That's amating. You can dynamically switch a

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<v Speaker 3>with the right burst of light.

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<v Speaker 2>It's essentially a universal remote control for the microscopic world.

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<v Speaker 2>But instead of an infrared beam turning on a TV,

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<v Speaker 2>you're using a twisted ultrafast laser to flip the fundamental

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<v Speaker 2>symmetry of a crystal on and off.

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<v Speaker 3>The implications for future technologies are immense. We are talking

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<v Speaker 3>about entirely new paradigms for high density data storage, ultrasensitive

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<v Speaker 3>room temperature sensing technologies, and advanced computing architecture. Wow. If

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<v Speaker 3>you can manipulate the fundamental order of a material at

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<v Speaker 3>room temperature using light, you unlock a broad class of

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<v Speaker 3>materials that were previously thought to be completely static and untunable.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's trace this entire journey back, because the physical

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<v Speaker 2>mechanics of what we've covered today are staggering. We started

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<v Speaker 2>with symmetry. Act is the ultimate unbreakable bouncer at the

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<v Speaker 2>club of the microscopic world. It built a cosmic soundproof

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<v Speaker 2>wall between the different vibrations and a crystal.

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<v Speaker 3>A rule we assumed was absolute.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolute, And then we looked at this specific layered crystal

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<v Speaker 2>where electrons bunch up into a charged density wave forming

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<v Speaker 2>these microscopic left and right handed star of David clusters,

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<v Speaker 2>a pattern that just sits there breathing, but is entirely

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<v Speaker 2>invisible to our best electric and magnetic sensors, a.

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<v Speaker 3>Ghost in the lattice until we learned to look at

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<v Speaker 2>Right by using holicity resolved light work screw light, we

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<v Speaker 2>microscopic handedness of the material, And once we could finally

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<v Speaker 2>map that ghost, we learned that by tuning the temperature,

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<v Speaker 3>The moment that frequency perfectly overlapped with an ordinary, forbidden

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<v Speaker 2>We found the secret tunnel, the resonant bridge, the wave

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<v Speaker 2>functions mixed, the rules of symmetry, we're dynamically bypassed, and

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<v Speaker 2>the two isolated rooms suddenly connected. Yes, and the absolute

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<v Speaker 2>best part is that this chiral dressing survives the chaotic

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<v Speaker 2>heat of room temperature. It gives us a way to

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<v Speaker 2>control quantum states with ultrafast lasers right here in the

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<v Speaker 3>It really serves as a powerful reminder of how dynamic

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<v Speaker 3>our understanding of the physical world truly is. Modern physics

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<v Speaker 3>is no longer just cataloging the rules of nature. It's

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<v Speaker 3>learning exactly how to find the resonant frequencies that rewrite

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<v Speaker 3>those rules totally. We are bridging the gap between theoretical

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<v Speaker 2>It's an incredible shift in perspective, and as we wrap

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<v Speaker 2>up our conversation today, I want to leave you with

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<v Speaker 2>one final thought, tam all over. If scientists can use

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<v Speaker 2>finely tuned light to dynamically bridge forbidden interactions in these

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<v Speaker 2>specific layered crystals, what other unbreakable laws of physics and

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<v Speaker 2>completely different materials might just be waiting for the exact

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<v Speaker 2>right frequency of light to be unlocked. Are there other

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<v Speaker 2>soundproof walls in nature holding back entirely new quantum technologies,

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<v Speaker 2>just waiting for us to find the perfect pitch to

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