Speaker 1: This song feels appropriate for our next guest do.
Speaker 2: I follow on social media and it feels like he's
Speaker 2: constantly jet setting across the world, you know, and as
Speaker 2: one of the best linebackers to ever do it at
Speaker 2: the University of Utah, played in the NFL for the Saints.
Speaker 2: Chase Hanson good enough to join us on a Monday Chase,
Speaker 2: Happy money man, How are.
Speaker 3: You appreciate It's been some great It's good be here.
Speaker 3: It's great to see you.
Speaker 2: So as I talk about, I follow you on social
Speaker 2: media and I feel like you're in the ocean one day.
Speaker 2: I feel like you're traveling across the world another day, like,
Speaker 2: what's been going on with you?
Speaker 1: Give our youth fan listeners an update?
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean if they want the life update.
Speaker 3: The life update is essentially that I finished ball in
Speaker 3: The first thing I thought is time to do all
Speaker 3: the things that you know, I've never had time to do.
Speaker 3: You travel, go to beautiful places, new cultures, new people.
Speaker 3: I was able to, you know, go to Dubai and
Speaker 3: Europe for a long time and just kick around for
Speaker 3: a little while, going a bunch of adventures.
Speaker 1: It kind of suits my style.
Speaker 3: A bunch of solo, travel, travel with friends, different things
Speaker 3: like that that I kind of live for. So just
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. I mean, I'm always working on
Speaker 3: side gigs and working on business and I'm always trying
Speaker 3: to keep moving forward. But I've had some fun and
Speaker 3: doesn't traveling for a little bit. It's it's been cool.
Speaker 2: I love traveling solo. My family thinks I'm an insane
Speaker 2: person to do it. It's one of my favorite things
Speaker 2: to do. And like you, when I had a break
Speaker 2: from life and I had a little bit of cash
Speaker 2: in my pocket, I just boom, I'm gone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to see places, I want to do things.
Speaker 2: But some people think traveling solo is like a bizarre
Speaker 2: form of behavior.
Speaker 1: I love it. Man.
Speaker 2: I always say there's a fine line between freedom and loneliness, right,
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 3: I had this conversation the other day with someone and
Speaker 3: they Hey, we were asking me like, don't doesn't get lonely?
Speaker 3: And my first thought is, I don't. I've never really
Speaker 3: been the type of person who gets lonely being alone.
Speaker 3: Same way like, traveling solo to me is very therapeutic
Speaker 3: and it almost feels like this very rich experience because
Speaker 3: I'm kind of forced to get outside my comfort zone,
Speaker 3: like I got to meet new people, like I want
Speaker 3: to meet new people. I'm like I'm forced to plant
Speaker 3: things myself. And I like traveling with friends and only too,
Speaker 3: Like that's a blast. But just to be able to
Speaker 3: sit down and be like I have the time, I
Speaker 3: got a little bit of money. I've never been to
Speaker 3: you know, Spain or you know wherever it is, you know,
Speaker 3: Japan or wherever, and it's that has been epic.
Speaker 1: I just I love that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: And to your point, I actually sometimes when people tell
Speaker 3: me that they like they don't like being alone, they
Speaker 3: look at me and they're like, oh, you're crazy, like
Speaker 3: you travel sol. I look at them and I'm like,
Speaker 3: you should probably figure that out. Yeah, you should probably
Speaker 3: like you know, enjoy your lone time a little bit more,
Speaker 3: because I think there's a lot of a lot of
Speaker 3: peace and a lot of I just I just think
Speaker 3: it can be healthy. Not that I'm like the epitome
Speaker 3: of mental health, but I think there's a lot of
Speaker 3: a lot of good that can come from just that's
Speaker 3: those solo experiences kind of in your own thoughts and
Speaker 3: your own experiences and all that. So it's been been
Speaker 3: really cool personally.
Speaker 1: Are you one?
Speaker 2: So I I are you a golfer by the way,
Speaker 2: you golf clubb No, tennis is going to be my
Speaker 2: old man's sport, of it's good for you.
Speaker 3: I did golf for a little bit when I was
Speaker 3: in real estate. It was kind of my hand was forced,
Speaker 3: but it didn't really can't really take well.
Speaker 2: Tennis is an excellent old man sport. We are no
Speaker 2: pickleball zone on the show because Porter plays tennis and
Speaker 2: he makes fun of pooketball players and if for honest
Speaker 2: like pick a ball players are the worst, we get it.
Speaker 2: You like pickle ball? Okay, that's enough. Yeah, It's like
Speaker 2: my friends that used to do CrossFit. I always say,
Speaker 2: how do you know when somebody does CrossFit? You know
Speaker 2: because they'll tell you right away. And now it's pickle ball.
Speaker 2: You know people that love pickleball? All right, I get it,
Speaker 2: you love pickleball.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's the vegans, the pickleballers and the crossfitters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, well said so. Anyway, I bring it up
Speaker 2: because I played. We had the State Am tournament last
Speaker 2: week for golf a couple of weeks ago down at
Speaker 2: the Logan Country Club and every year they let the
Speaker 2: media hacks go up and play the course and we
Speaker 2: interview golfers, and they put me with a former pro
Speaker 2: named Steele de Wall. Porter doesn't believe he's a real
Speaker 2: person because his name sounds like a power tool. It's
Speaker 2: a name, it is a great name, and he went
Speaker 2: through Q School, like Xander Schoffle. He's played with all
Speaker 2: of them, Scotty, you name it. Like he was that
Speaker 2: dude for a while, made corn Faery Tour and just
Speaker 2: didn't enjoy that type of life where you have to grind.
Speaker 2: And so he's now back playing as an amateur where
Speaker 2: he's kind of rediscovered his love for the game. But
Speaker 2: when he was done with pro golf, he was done
Speaker 2: with it. Were you you were you kind of like
Speaker 2: that with football? Were you footballed out when it when
Speaker 2: the end came for you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good question.
Speaker 3: I I feel like I had a unique relationship with football,
Speaker 3: just because I don't feel like I ever fell out
Speaker 3: of love with the game. I think I thought I
Speaker 3: did at the time, and I always felt like there's
Speaker 3: a lot of other things I loved more than ball,
Speaker 3: Like you know, I had this, you know, I want
Speaker 3: to I love business.
Speaker 1: I love traveling. I love the adventures.
Speaker 3: You know. In my head, I had these ideas of
Speaker 3: all these things I wanted to do, and I think
Speaker 3: those were accurate. But I just think that I was
Speaker 3: in constant pain. Like I think I fell out of
Speaker 3: love with like constantly being in pain. Not that anyone's
Speaker 3: in love with that, but it anytime I was healthy
Speaker 3: and I was playing the game, I always loved it.
Speaker 3: Like at any stage, at any point in time when
Speaker 3: I was healthy and I was playing, I was like,
Speaker 3: I loved the game.
Speaker 1: It felt very natural, it was it was a it
Speaker 1: was a great time.
Speaker 3: It just the constant wear and tear and nature kind
Speaker 3: of took its course with me, and no excuses.
Speaker 1: It just it.
Speaker 3: That's just the way my story kind of played out.
Speaker 1: But it was just.
Speaker 3: I fell out of love with the way I physically
Speaker 3: felt while constantly trying to play the game and playing
Speaker 3: the way I played it, And that was kind of
Speaker 3: how it worked for me. It was never this moment
Speaker 3: of like I just don't like football anymore. It was
Speaker 3: more like, I feel like I'm not going to be
Speaker 3: healthy enough to live my life, you know, if I
Speaker 3: keep going down this road.
Speaker 1: And so it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it worked out, it was well timed, and I'm
Speaker 3: grateful for what it gave me.
Speaker 1: It just I still love it.
Speaker 3: And now that i'm kind of outside of it, I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know, back in with my passion of it.
Speaker 1: It's just different. Do you different way looking at it?
Speaker 2: Do you stay connected to former teammates at the U
Speaker 2: or with the Saints?
Speaker 1: Do you watch games?
Speaker 2: Are you like interested in in actually consuming football?
Speaker 3: Yeah, more so now than when I was playing, which
Speaker 3: I'm sure I think a lot of guys will tell you,
Speaker 3: Like when they're playing, sometimes they just they don't want
Speaker 3: to talk or watch ball a lot of times unless
Speaker 3: it's like film or like something that's actually going to
Speaker 3: improve their game, right right. But yeah, I'll watch the boys.
Speaker 3: I'll watch you know, my voice from New Orleans or
Speaker 3: Utah all the time. And I love keeping an eye
Speaker 3: on them. But they're they're doing big things and when
Speaker 3: you're in that grind, you're you're in it, like you're
Speaker 3: you're in the thick of it. And so I'll keep
Speaker 3: tabs on them and just you know, keep an eye
Speaker 3: on them all the time.
Speaker 2: Do you live and die with results? Because this is
Speaker 2: another interesting thing that I've talked to some former YOU
Speaker 2: players or WHY players or NFL players, and you know,
Speaker 2: my relationship with sports has changed over the years because
Speaker 2: I was raised in a family setting where my father
Speaker 2: was a pro sports executive with the Jazz and then
Speaker 2: with the Knicks. UH brought RSL here and so growing up,
Speaker 2: we would watch games with this intense passion and almost
Speaker 2: liver dimontality because the family relied on it, needed to
Speaker 2: win so dad could keep his job, and it always
Speaker 2: felt so heavy, like when the Knicks were eliminated the playoffs.
Speaker 2: I go to school the next day and cafeteria managers like,
Speaker 2: is are they going to fire your dad this week?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? So I used to watch you with that
Speaker 1: level of anxiety.
Speaker 3: Fascinating perspective on that, yeah.
Speaker 1: And so he's no longer.
Speaker 2: I mean he's involved kind of in an ancillary way,
Speaker 2: but it's no longer day to day and Chase, I
Speaker 2: just don't miss watching games like that. I don't miss
Speaker 2: like feeling like the world is going to end if
Speaker 2: BYU beat Utah or whatever it is. Do you do
Speaker 2: you find the passion or the intensity with which you
Speaker 2: consume is kind of dwindled as you age a little
Speaker 2: bit mature.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if I've ever been you know, live.
Speaker 3: I've always tried to find something outside of football to
Speaker 3: kind of hold on to so that when I lost,
Speaker 3: or when I failed, or when my team lost, it
Speaker 3: didn't affect me on that you know, existential level. And
Speaker 3: I would say now I'm probably more invested ironically, like
Speaker 3: emotionally in like what the you or what the jazz
Speaker 3: or what the hockey team is doing, because I just
Speaker 3: I kind of have this, uh, I guess this deep
Speaker 3: rooted love for Utah and Utah sports like a lot
Speaker 3: of people in Utah, but I'm I mean, I get
Speaker 3: really curious with like, you know, what moves are we making,
Speaker 3: what are we where are we putting our money?
Speaker 1: Like when we bring it in, Like what's going on?
Speaker 3: More so than did we win, It's more like how
Speaker 3: are we Like how is the team being managed? Because
Speaker 3: I've always been fascinated with, you know, how NFL teams.
Speaker 3: You know, what's a general manager doing, who they're drafting, me,
Speaker 3: their training Like it's a fascinating concept to be able
Speaker 3: to look from the top down and organize and you know,
Speaker 3: put the team together. And I've never been fascinated by
Speaker 3: like being a coach or anything like that. But as
Speaker 3: I look at it from a fans perspective, I think
Speaker 3: I look about it a little bit differently. So it's
Speaker 3: kind of a long answer to a short question. But
Speaker 3: basically I don't feel like it, you know, affects me
Speaker 3: on that existential level like you talked about, and I
Speaker 3: get why you did, but I've never been like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is going to consume my life if we lose.
Speaker 1: But it does.
Speaker 3: I'm emotionally invested, and I'm also just really invested in
Speaker 3: like how are we managing? Like, like how is everything
Speaker 3: being put together? Now that there's money and there's an
Speaker 3: il on, there's transfers. It's just it's kind of this
Speaker 3: chess piece, which is really interesting to see the way
Speaker 3: being put together, you know, in all the sports here
Speaker 3: in Utah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you never struck me.
Speaker 2: It's funny because I'm entering my twentieth year doing this
Speaker 2: full time. I did it part time for about four
Speaker 2: or five years and now yeah, twenty years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: It's a tough place to carve out real estate and
Speaker 2: sometimes hard to hold on to, but over the years
Speaker 2: interviewing college athletes. I'll tell right away, like, oh, I
Speaker 2: hope he wants to coach, because that's probably all you
Speaker 2: can do after he's done playing, Like he's a natural
Speaker 2: coach or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: I always tease my guy Britten Johnson.
Speaker 2: Or I did jazz pre app and post with for years,
Speaker 2: like I'm glad you're six' ten, dude and he's done
Speaker 2: well for. Himself it's more tug and, cheek BUT i
Speaker 2: bring it up in that. Context you never struck me
Speaker 2: as somebody who was only defined by. Football you always
Speaker 2: struck me as a well, balanced kind of, introspective thoughtful.
Speaker 2: Person so we'll get to what you have going, on
Speaker 2: and it's not surprising to me that you do look
Speaker 2: for side. Hustles as you, said try to move forward
Speaker 2: and interested in business and you're, gonna you, know pursue
Speaker 2: a postgraduate degree with if you're, comfortable please talk about.
Speaker 2: It but where did that balance come? From was It
Speaker 2: mom and? Dad was it the way you were? Raised
Speaker 2: was it your? Faith was it just you always have
Speaker 2: been an intricately curious.
Speaker 3: MIND i, mean those are great options and great great.
Speaker 3: THOUGHTS i feel like it's a combination of a lot
Speaker 3: of different. Things in my, HEAD i feel like my
Speaker 3: parents did do great, jobs, like, hey sports are, big
Speaker 3: but remember like there's a lot more outside of. Sports
Speaker 3: that's not what defines you is and you know your
Speaker 3: your abilities to your, decisions like they were great at doing.
Speaker 3: THAT i ALSO i also THINK i was just really
Speaker 3: curious about everything, Else LIKE i honestly never as a,
Speaker 3: KID i always wanted to see where football take me took,
Speaker 3: me BUT i wasn't necessarily a kid that was like
Speaker 3: my dream is to play in THE. NFL i THINK
Speaker 3: i did have that those, ambitions AND i HOPED i
Speaker 3: would get, There BUT i was always curious about you,
Speaker 3: know you know what's going on In, asia you know
Speaker 3: what's going on in, business like what's going, on and you,
Speaker 3: KNOW i THINK i was genuinely very curious of stuff
Speaker 3: outside of sports and outside of. Ball SO i would
Speaker 3: say It's i've never actually been asked the why or
Speaker 3: the how of, this but it's really interesting to kind
Speaker 3: of think about it now BECAUSE i think it's a
Speaker 3: number of different things which you, know you've you alluded
Speaker 3: to a couple of, them and my faith definitely played
Speaker 3: a part in. That just, yeah realizing there is a
Speaker 3: lot going on in. Life AND i loved ball AND
Speaker 3: i loved you, know what sport can, do AND i
Speaker 3: want to be involved in it somehow as.
Speaker 1: Well, still.
Speaker 3: But, YEAH i would say is a combination of a
Speaker 3: bunch of those topics that you hit on just.
Speaker 2: Barely and you also you have four brothers and three, sisters,
Speaker 2: right so you come from a male. Family your father
Speaker 2: played FOOTBALL. Byu it's interesting and we'll get to this
Speaker 2: in a little. Bit you were part of this era
Speaker 2: of a ton of recruits that decided to play For
Speaker 2: kyle up here where family members had played football down
Speaker 2: at B.
Speaker 1: Yu it was an interesting.
Speaker 2: Thing and certainly it feels like there's a little momentum
Speaker 2: shift with the power of the. Purse AND i said
Speaker 2: five years ago when Ni al started to become a,
Speaker 2: realitist and watch about forty miles now, south all, right
Speaker 2: they get how to do. This just watch how they do.
Speaker 2: It hopefully you talk and can kind of keep. Up
Speaker 2: but what was it like growing up with and where
Speaker 2: do you fit in the hierarchy with your?
Speaker 1: Siblings which number are you second, youngest second?
Speaker 2: Youngest did were you raised in an ultra competitive environment
Speaker 2: like with my, family there were years where we couldn't
Speaker 2: even play like. Risk i'm, Like i'm not. Playing its
Speaker 2: just it would get. Loose was it like that with you?
Speaker 2: Guys for?
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah our family is chaos and we have a mixed.
Speaker 3: Bunch so all my oldest, siblings you, know we're all very.
Speaker 3: Different you, know we got half siblings here and, there
Speaker 3: but we're all still very. Close and in our house growing,
Speaker 3: up it was five, boys so as me and my four,
Speaker 3: brothers and, yeah very competitive in every, way like if
Speaker 3: we're playing wifftball or, basketball like we're not going to
Speaker 3: finish the game like a, fight it's gonna. Happen if
Speaker 3: we're Playing, xbox it's just like it like IT'S i
Speaker 3: mean it's five boys in the, home all very, competitive
Speaker 3: and it's still that. Way Like i'll play my brother
Speaker 3: in tennis and it's just LIKE i don't think it
Speaker 3: ever goes, away but it's it's it's fun to dive
Speaker 3: back into.
Speaker 1: It but, yeah really competitive.
Speaker 3: House just a bunch of boys and you know sisters
Speaker 3: as well that you know they weren't in our, home
Speaker 3: but still very close with all of. Them so just
Speaker 3: it's it's a chaotic. Bunch but it's fun to have
Speaker 3: the different. Personalities and you, Know.
Speaker 1: Mom and dad competitive.
Speaker 3: Too oh he, is but that's what he doesn't. Like
Speaker 3: he won't play, games, yes but he ALSO i think
Speaker 3: he kind of he's chilled out a. Lot like they
Speaker 3: won't let us play certain games in our.
Speaker 4: Home.
Speaker 1: Uh there's this one board.
Speaker 3: GAME i don't even know if the name IS, pc
Speaker 3: but it's it's Called Secret hitler and like we're not
Speaker 3: allowed to play it in the home because it just
Speaker 3: gets it gets very. Personal And mom and dad they
Speaker 3: they they don't like the. Fighting they it's. Competitive my mom's.
Speaker 3: Not my dad, is even when he tries to act
Speaker 3: like he's. Not and, yeah they'll they'll outlass certain. Games,
Speaker 3: yeah that's that's the funny.
Speaker 2: Thing when they try to act, like, Oh i'm the,
Speaker 2: dad So i'm the, patriarch So i'm not, like, no
Speaker 2: you want to slip my throat and watch.
Speaker 3: Me, oh the, stories the STORY i already know Because
Speaker 3: i've heard the stories of my dad and his brothers
Speaker 3: and just like THE i mean different, times BUT i
Speaker 3: mean they were they were swinging on people. Often it's,
Speaker 3: like hold, on we're just. Arguing you, know it's it's
Speaker 3: a board. Game, yeah we know the. Story, yeah you,
Speaker 3: know we. Do we need to bring these. Up and
Speaker 3: so it's we get where it comes, from you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah you're. Right they can only hide it for so. Long,
Speaker 1: NO i was.
Speaker 2: Joking so a couple of weeks, ago the home run
Speaker 2: derby took place In Major League, baseball and the catcher
Speaker 2: who won his, name is escaping.
Speaker 1: Me his father was throwing him, pitches AND.
Speaker 2: I was joking that my dad would throw me junk
Speaker 2: like he'd Throw, kurt like he. Wouldn't he would want
Speaker 2: to strike me out. Right he would not want to
Speaker 2: feed me straight down the. Middle he'd want to embarrass
Speaker 2: me in front of.
Speaker 3: Everyone so raised in a similar and probably got hit
Speaker 3: hit in the probably got good at hitting the junk,
Speaker 3: though oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah no for, Sure but there's no feeding me for.
Speaker 2: Success he wants to strake me. Out so let me
Speaker 2: ask you about the dynamic as a lone peak kid
Speaker 2: who had his choice of where to, play and again
Speaker 2: it was this interesting time The Britain covees of the, world,
Speaker 2: like if your B, yu you can't Let Britain covey
Speaker 2: get out of your. Backyard his grandpa's name is on
Speaker 2: half your. Buildings how was he a? You but what
Speaker 2: was that process that landed you here at The university
Speaker 2: Of utah to play For kyle opposed to maybe considering
Speaker 2: going TO byu and you were in there basically in their.
Speaker 3: Backyard, Yeah i'll speak to. MINE i Know, couves he's
Speaker 3: got his own. Story but essentially for, me it was
Speaker 3: it was kind of What utah had and WHAT byu
Speaker 3: didn't for me BECAUSE i think the expectation was That
Speaker 3: i'd get to the, why and to keep it really,
Speaker 3: SHORT i didn't have a great recruiting experience at THE
Speaker 3: wy AND i think they all assumed LIKE i was going.
Speaker 1: There my dad went there like it was a family.
Speaker 3: Thing AND i got there AND i was, LIKE i
Speaker 3: MEAN i tried not to be the, like you, know
Speaker 3: show me the, money like let's put on a show for.
Speaker 3: Me BUT i got there AND i was like they
Speaker 3: did not sell me at, All like this is it
Speaker 3: is not like this doesn't sound feeling for me to be.
Speaker 3: HERE i think there was also an element of they
Speaker 3: were very forward, About, hey you're coming here and you're playing,
Speaker 3: linebacker AND i was in this mindset of actually, quarterback
Speaker 3: which obviously we know how that.
Speaker 1: Ended BUT i loved.
Speaker 3: IT i Loved, SCALEY i love like the coaching staff
Speaker 3: was a big part of my. Decision and to be
Speaker 3: also super transparent about like my personal, DECISION i JUST
Speaker 3: i didn't love the bubble that Was Utah county for,
Speaker 3: me AND i appreciated it during the time At Lone
Speaker 3: peak and it was, great but it it felt so
Speaker 3: refreshing to, think not THAT i MEAN i went out
Speaker 3: of state or, anything but Like Salt lake just felt
Speaker 3: like a good change of pace for. Me it felt
Speaker 3: like this new, atmosphere felt like a higher level of,
Speaker 3: Ball it felt like better. Coaching, honestly it felt like
Speaker 3: the right opportunity for a number of different, reasons even church,
Speaker 3: wise AND i was very church, mind it still, am
Speaker 3: but it you, KNOW i, thought you, know where DO
Speaker 3: i want to, go you, know somewhere where everyone's kind
Speaker 3: of the, same or somewhere where you, KNOW i can
Speaker 3: have these different conversations with different types of people with
Speaker 3: different opinions and you, know mindsets and, beliefs and that
Speaker 3: was just more interesting to, me you, know even outside of.
Speaker 3: Ball and so for, me it was quite a few
Speaker 3: different things and it wasn't you, know ONCE i got
Speaker 3: to making the, decision it wasn't a super hard. Decision
Speaker 3: just the way it all played out for, ME i,
Speaker 3: know you, know the expectation and the way you, KNOW
Speaker 3: i was raising the family thing was it felt more
Speaker 3: obvious THAT i was gonna go down.
Speaker 2: There so did Did pops have anything to? Say or
Speaker 2: did he just kind of let you do your? Thing and,
Speaker 2: no he said you do your. Thing he was also
Speaker 2: just really. SUPPORTIVE i think. HE i don't HE i don't.
Speaker 3: Know he might deny, this BUT i think he kind
Speaker 3: of saw it for what it was, Too like the
Speaker 3: riding was on the wall a little bit that THE
Speaker 3: u was just moving in a different, direction and it
Speaker 3: felt Like witt had a good handle on you know
Speaker 3: what was. Coming and you, know there Was pac twelve.
Speaker 3: Stuff they were sending a lot of guys the. League
Speaker 3: the defense was doing what it was AND i, mean,
Speaker 3: AGAIN i THOUGHT i was going as a, quarterback but
Speaker 3: it still felt like the opportunity was up. Here SO
Speaker 3: i think he looking, back he, was you, know more
Speaker 3: supportive THAN i.
Speaker 1: Expected that's.
Speaker 2: Cool i'm, glad, yeah Because madeleine fathers sometimes can make decisions.
Speaker 2: Difficult let me follow. Up you just brought up a
Speaker 2: really interesting. Point and you, Know i'm not one that
Speaker 2: lives on social. MEDIA i think the internet is where
Speaker 2: cowards go to feel. Brave but you hear all of
Speaker 2: this discourse about, well if you're AN lds, kid then
Speaker 2: you need to be in. Provo if you're AN lds,
Speaker 2: kid THE lds experience exists AT, byu AND i always
Speaker 2: say there's a difference between THE byu experience and AN lds,
Speaker 2: Experience Like utah has a massive, institute it's a big
Speaker 2: part of the ecosystem at The university Of. Utah if
Speaker 2: you want THE lds, Experience, chase it feels like you
Speaker 2: can get it in a lot of. Places you don't
Speaker 2: just need to get it AT. Byu so what was
Speaker 2: your experience like as AN lds student athlete at The
Speaker 2: university Of.
Speaker 3: Utah, yeah great. Question i'll probably take this in a
Speaker 3: direction THAT i don't. Know i'm not trying to be
Speaker 3: too too controversial, here BUT i JUST i agree with
Speaker 3: you know your, point which is THAT i feel like
Speaker 3: there's a difference between, this you, know spiritual experience and
Speaker 3: a growth promoting experience and kind of sticking in the
Speaker 3: bubble and as a, current you, know still ACTIVE lds,
Speaker 3: PERSON i feel like there's certain, things again not to
Speaker 3: be too controversial, here but there's certain things that are
Speaker 3: cultural down that way THAT i just don't super agree
Speaker 3: with and don't super align with from like a faith,
Speaker 3: perspective which is again Like i'm an, active healthy as.
Speaker 3: Person it's just there's there's certain things WHERE i don't
Speaker 3: feel like they necessarily are necessarily the growth or faith
Speaker 3: promoting things THAT i was looking. For AND i don't
Speaker 3: want to you, know knock anyone else's you, know anyone else's,
Speaker 3: path BUT i think i'd like to think that that
Speaker 3: narrative is kind of running its.
Speaker 1: Course maybe it's.
Speaker 3: Not i'm not getting, recruited AND i don't know what's you,
Speaker 3: know the narrative is right now about you, know WHERE
Speaker 3: lds kids. Go But i'd like to think that we've
Speaker 3: become a little bit more open minded about what it
Speaker 3: means to, have you, know a faith promoting, experience a
Speaker 3: personal growth promoting, experience and it doesn't need to be
Speaker 3: in the bubble Of Utah. County and that doesn't mean
Speaker 3: you can't have a great spiritual experience In Utah. County
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i know great guys and great people who are
Speaker 3: doing just. THAT i just think think there's merit to
Speaker 3: getting outside of that bubble and opening your mind and
Speaker 3: having a different experience and allowing yourself to be.
Speaker 1: Curious but, still you, know.
Speaker 3: You know in your, faith you know whatever that looks
Speaker 3: like for every, person BECAUSE i think faith is a
Speaker 3: fascinating concept AND i think it's different for. Everyone but,
Speaker 3: YEAH i think it took that a little different. Direction
Speaker 3: but that's those are my. Thoughts it's a great, answer it.
Speaker 2: Really, is and it is SOMETHING i would expect to
Speaker 2: hear from you based off of my experience listening and
Speaker 2: interviewing you a few.
Speaker 1: Times over the.
Speaker 2: Years the honor code when it comes to and this
Speaker 2: might you might be the wrong person ask because you
Speaker 2: are ACTIVE, lds so living those standards is something you
Speaker 2: were raised with and something that you probably carried with
Speaker 2: you and still. Do as you're talking about your, faith
Speaker 2: when a situation comes out like it came out With,
Speaker 2: jake With Jake, rhetslav who had a good year for
Speaker 2: them last. Year they win eleven, games they go to
Speaker 2: The Alamo bowl and they Beat dion And. Colorado he
Speaker 2: was eleventh IN qbr in the. Conference their defense is.
Speaker 2: Nasty they were very fortunate last year in a lot of,
Speaker 2: ways But jake had a good. Year NON lds kid
Speaker 2: Attends Bringham Young And i'm sure you followed the story
Speaker 2: was accused initially of sexual, assault and then it came
Speaker 2: down that the case was dropped and now it's been
Speaker 2: characterized as a consensual sexual. Relationship And i've had a
Speaker 2: lot of guests on the show that covered the story
Speaker 2: from the outside looking in that just don't know really
Speaker 2: how to digest this when they're, like, wait he's Not,
Speaker 2: mormon this was. Consensual this doesn't make. Sense, now you
Speaker 2: were raised down, there your father played. There i'm the
Speaker 2: oldest of six. Kids all five of my siblings went TO.
Speaker 2: Byu i'm the only one that came up. Here SO
Speaker 2: i get. IT i understand what the dynamic and the culture.
Speaker 2: Is but what sort of, effect if, any do you
Speaker 2: think the honor coat has on trying to recruit talent OF.
Speaker 2: Byu and when you hear stories like, this how do
Speaker 2: you digest? It, Yeah i'll leave.
Speaker 3: The J retsof story at the table because that one
Speaker 3: is plex and it's that there's a lot to that
Speaker 3: that is going. On BUT i think in terms of
Speaker 3: just The Honer code in, GENERAL i do have an,
Speaker 3: opinion AND i think it's it's. FLAWED i don't think
Speaker 3: it necessarily aligns with WHAT i view as the way
Speaker 3: the church should be represented. PERSONALLY i think it should
Speaker 3: be amended and. Changed AND i don't know if updated
Speaker 3: is the right word or just completely. Removed BUT i
Speaker 3: get the narrative of, like you, know you go TO,
Speaker 3: byu you understand what you signed up. For like that's,
Speaker 3: like here's the. Deal AND i think there's merit to.
Speaker 3: That it's, like if you're going to go, there understand
Speaker 3: what you're signing up. For having said, that as someone
Speaker 3: who's being, asked you, know about The Honor, CODE i
Speaker 3: think that IT'S i just think it needs to be.
Speaker 1: CHANGED i think it needs to be.
Speaker 3: UPDATED i think there's a lot to it that kind
Speaker 3: of tries to be flexed as like this is what
Speaker 3: the church. Represents and in my mind not to get
Speaker 3: too deep on the church topic, here BUT i guess
Speaker 3: we already. ARE i JUST i don't feel like it fully,
Speaker 3: aligns you. KNOW i feel like it's this other thing
Speaker 3: that's more cultural of, like, hey let us know who's
Speaker 3: doing bad. Stuff and let's like make this like, again
Speaker 3: not to overuse this word, either but like a cultural
Speaker 3: thing versus you, know your experiences between you And, god
Speaker 3: and you, KNOW i think there's a different conversation about
Speaker 3: faith that comes in versus the ON a. Code AND i,
Speaker 3: mean gods are still going, there they're still committing. THERE
Speaker 3: i just think There's, YEAH i THINK i get bugged
Speaker 3: WHEN i hear certain people complain like you, know this
Speaker 3: is you, KNOW i, GUESS i guess maybe be what
Speaker 3: whoever it. Is it, says you, know this shouldn't be this,
Speaker 3: way like why is this person getting? Suspended it's, like,
Speaker 3: WELL i get both, Sides like they signed up for,
Speaker 3: it and you've got to understand what you're signing up.
Speaker 3: For if you have sex and someone finds, out there's
Speaker 3: a good chance you're gonna get. Suspended that says whether
Speaker 3: you agree or disagree with. That but if it's like
Speaker 3: a spiritual, CONVERSATION i just think there's a lot there's
Speaker 3: a lot of holes and flaws in the ON a.
Speaker 3: CODE i feel like THAT i view. Personally so it's
Speaker 3: kind of two different ways of looking at. It for, Me,
Speaker 3: YEAH i think it's really.
Speaker 2: Interesting this is really good perspective BECAUSE i do you,
Speaker 2: know When Roger reid was the basketball, coach he recruited
Speaker 2: me to go play down, there and as a, SOPHOMORE
Speaker 2: i took a recruiting. Trip interestingly, enough the two other
Speaker 2: players on that recruiting trip Were Nate cooper And Chris.
Speaker 2: Burgess And roger ultimately lost his job because When berge
Speaker 2: committed To, duke he said he let eleven million people,
Speaker 2: down WHEN i don't even remember, that he said he
Speaker 2: let the entire church. Down and so you, KNOW i
Speaker 2: knew a lot of the guys that played on the
Speaker 2: team down. There of, course interviewed a bunch of, players
Speaker 2: both football and, basketball and almost to a, person the
Speaker 2: element that they didn't seem to appreciate was the somebody's
Speaker 2: always watching me And i'm afraid that a student is
Speaker 2: gonna turn me in and this tattletale culture because to your,
Speaker 2: point and it was very eloquent with the way you put,
Speaker 2: it and you, know you can talk about faith one
Speaker 2: way or the, other AND i think faith is a
Speaker 2: very personal thing and we're all just trying to get
Speaker 2: through the day and whatever you used to sleep at,
Speaker 2: night and then just live your, life be good to,
Speaker 2: people all those. Things but my understanding Of christianity is
Speaker 2: we are imperfect people that make, mistakes and it is
Speaker 2: the casting away that has always bothered me and has
Speaker 2: seemed always bothered even athletes that went to B. Yu
Speaker 2: is that an accurate representation of the way you think
Speaker 2: most people.
Speaker 3: Feel, Yeah and AGAIN i don't want to speak for,
Speaker 3: everybody BUT i feel like the CONVERSATIONS i had with
Speaker 3: people AT byu or outside OF byu is, hey the
Speaker 3: on a code needs like some amending, here like need some,
Speaker 3: updating need some. Upgrading and you, KNOW i to be very,
Speaker 3: Clear i'm the furthest from like a B yu. HATER
Speaker 3: i don't say this is someone who's very opinionated on
Speaker 3: like let's land B.
Speaker 1: Yu have a lot of family.
Speaker 3: THERE i appreciate a lot about what's going on down,
Speaker 3: there and there's a lot of really great people and,
Speaker 3: coaches even on the football team THAT'S i mean, YOU
Speaker 3: i mean you come.
Speaker 1: On and just Standa Aaron.
Speaker 3: Roderick there's most of the coaching out There i've played
Speaker 3: with Or, Ford, yeah which is kind of, Funny but,
Speaker 3: AGAIN i think it's just WHEN i look at it
Speaker 3: with fresh eyes as like my opinion ON i guess
Speaker 3: specifically on a, code it's just that's Not and again
Speaker 3: it gets complex because it's, like how do you view
Speaker 3: Fake BUT i in my opinion and my, take it's
Speaker 3: just it doesn't fully align WITH i would, say you,
Speaker 3: know the. Church, Again i'm not. Trying i'm not trying
Speaker 3: to dig. Myself it's too deep of a whole. Here
Speaker 3: but this is my, take AND i honestly don't think
Speaker 3: it's that hot of a. TAKE i think you ask
Speaker 3: people in in school or out of, school and they'll, say,
Speaker 3: yeah it feels you, know pretty.
Speaker 4: Not.
Speaker 3: Archaic but it just it doesn't feel like it fully,
Speaker 3: aligned you, know some of the other. PRINCIPLES i guess
Speaker 3: that the school is wanting to represent AND i didn't go,
Speaker 3: there SO i don't want to keep getting too deep
Speaker 3: in that. Hole but, it's, uh, YEAH i just think
Speaker 3: That's that's kind of Where i'm at with, it and
Speaker 3: it's it feels like it feels like it's going TO
Speaker 3: i just don't know how or in what, way or
Speaker 3: what the best way to go about. It i'm sure
Speaker 3: it's tricky to make those kind of.
Speaker 2: Changes what's the hands in household like When utah by
Speaker 2: you were playing what's that?
Speaker 1: Week, like what's what's the good shifted?
Speaker 3: Tone, okay IT'S i, mean it's pretty much Full utah
Speaker 3: at this point BECAUSE i went, There my little brother went,
Speaker 3: there he, PLAYED i played We, uh the whole family
Speaker 3: is pretty Much, utah which is funny because it was
Speaker 3: kind of just my brothers who Were utah. First AND
Speaker 3: i would, say you, know my sister went to pa school,
Speaker 3: there or she went to you, know her undergrad, there
Speaker 3: and there's just there's a lot of, red which is
Speaker 3: funny because we started very blue and my dad's the
Speaker 3: only real blue. One and he still has it in.
Speaker 3: Him you, know he still wants to see the coups do.
Speaker 3: Well but he he loves with he Loves, scalley he
Speaker 3: loves you, KNOW i think it's he's watching us. Play
Speaker 3: he he feels a little mixed as. Well he just
Speaker 3: wants to see good. Ball but, yeah it's surprisingly not
Speaker 3: not as mixed as you. Think it's pretty. Red but
Speaker 3: if you get our extended, FAMILY i think there's there
Speaker 3: there's a lot of hands in's out, there and there's
Speaker 3: a lot of Kug hansen's and a lot of, You.
Speaker 3: Hanson so it's that's that's where it would get a little,
Speaker 3: chaotic and it's a very competitive.
Speaker 2: Bunch So i'm gonna ask you a totally unfair. QUESTION i,
Speaker 2: mean we're already in pretty. Deep just keep.
Speaker 3: Going i'm clearly, Uh i'm clearly opened all of them right.
Speaker 2: Now, NO i think it's good perspective because you reference
Speaker 2: the coaching staff and When kolanie was here as THE,
Speaker 2: DC i did a weekly show with, him And i've
Speaker 2: Known Aaron roderick my entire. Life it's actually a weird.
Speaker 2: Story our parents were AT byu together and we lived
Speaker 2: in student, housing so A rod AND i used to
Speaker 2: play together as, kids Like i've known in my entire,
Speaker 2: life And i'm a big fan of them. Both they
Speaker 2: joined the show throughout the course of the football. Season
Speaker 2: we actually get more access TO byu coaches Than utah,
Speaker 2: coaches and we're the home of The.
Speaker 1: Utes is kind of a wild.
Speaker 2: Thing but if if a seventeen year Old Chase hanson
Speaker 2: is recruited By kilanie And Aaron roderick And Jay hill
Speaker 2: and this coaching staff to play AT byu and then
Speaker 2: on the other side of The utah coaches you have.
Speaker 1: What do you what do you?
Speaker 3: Think that looks like fascinating. Question it's a fascinating. QUESTION
Speaker 3: I i don't. KNOW i think my decision would have
Speaker 3: been significantly. Harder And i'm gonna, say Because witt And
Speaker 3: scally And shaw and the crew is still, THERE i
Speaker 3: would like to THINK i would probably still end up
Speaker 3: here In Salt. Lake BUT i think it would have
Speaker 3: been a very different experience in conversation for me BECAUSE i,
Speaker 3: committed you know, Before LIKE i mean it was junior.
Speaker 3: YEAR i committed. EARLY i never batted AN I i
Speaker 3: never looked. Back it was, like it wasn't this you,
Speaker 3: know back and forth thing for. ME i think it
Speaker 3: would have made it a lot different IF i was
Speaker 3: sitting in a room With KILANIE A. Rod you, know
Speaker 3: these these different coaches that you, mentioned and they're also
Speaker 3: DOING i, mean they're also making a lot of moves.
Speaker 3: There you you feel, it and it's it's it's it's
Speaker 3: gonna be a good ball for a lot of years to,
Speaker 3: COME i think at both. Schools so it's kind of
Speaker 3: a cheap, answer But i'm Gonna i'm gonna commit and
Speaker 3: Say I'm i'm still you know A ute in this hypothetic,
Speaker 3: scenario BUT i think what made it a lot a lot.
Speaker 1: Tougher, yeah then that's the right.
Speaker 2: Answer as we're two miles away from right cycles and
Speaker 2: you are the home of the on the home of The.
Speaker 2: Utes let let me move over over here real, quick
Speaker 2: because you just kind of alluded to. It AND i always,
Speaker 2: say in my, opinion as a student at The university
Speaker 2: Of utah in the, nineties when we were a basketball, school.
Speaker 1: And do respect To Coach.
Speaker 2: Mac always respect To Coach mac who kind of laid
Speaker 2: the foundation urban then Obviously Coach, WIT i never thought
Speaker 2: that we would be a football school the way we are.
Speaker 2: Now AND i always say the two biggest days and
Speaker 2: the two biggest moments in Modern utah football history are
Speaker 2: THE pac twelve invite. One it made us A p
Speaker 2: five SCHOOL p four and now BUT p five at
Speaker 2: the time and When kyle said no TO byu and
Speaker 2: said yes To. UTAH i think those are the two
Speaker 2: biggest days that led to really a generation of ute football.
Speaker 2: Dominance head to head AGAINST, buyu the schedule bears it
Speaker 2: out or the standings and head to, head you, know
Speaker 2: numbers bear it, out AND byu football makes the reactionary
Speaker 2: move to go. Independent AND i understand why they did
Speaker 2: it because they didn't want to be the little brother
Speaker 2: back in The Mountain.
Speaker 1: West but for about fifteen, Years utah football.
Speaker 2: Dominated the head to head more often than not and
Speaker 2: had the momentum going in their.
Speaker 1: Direction and now both schools are in The big.
Speaker 2: Twelve and LIKE i, said AND i said this five years,
Speaker 2: ago when they're allowed to open up the, pocketbook AND
Speaker 2: i know it's now the, church we got to say
Speaker 2: that these are powerful donors and boosters they care ABOUT byu.
Speaker 2: ATHLETICS i was told THAT byu has nine seven figure
Speaker 2: donors In utah's. Two so we need to kind of
Speaker 2: even the playing field a little.
Speaker 1: Bit do you know that's? Fascinating, Yeah but does.
Speaker 2: It feel like maybe some of the Momentum utah had
Speaker 2: for about fifteen years has shifted a little bit forty
Speaker 2: miles down.
Speaker 1: South.
Speaker 3: YEAH i don't know if it's the momentum that, shifted
Speaker 3: or if you know that team down south is just
Speaker 3: making big moves and they're making it significantly more. Competitive
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i wouldn't necessarily say that we've lost a. STEP
Speaker 3: i Think utah is still very much on the, rise
Speaker 3: AND i think there's a really bright future For. UTAH
Speaker 3: i genuinely think that that's not, just you, know me wishful.
Speaker 3: THINKING i just THINK byu is making a lot of
Speaker 3: really big. Moves so what do you want to call
Speaker 3: it momentum or. NOT i, mean there's clearly something going
Speaker 3: on down there THAT i think is effective and exciting for, them.
Speaker 1: At least in terms of recruiting.
Speaker 3: Talent it'll be fascinating to see if that translates to
Speaker 3: the type of ball that they are hoping. For and so,
Speaker 3: yeah IT'S i think that's my take.
Speaker 2: There All, right a couple more, things then we'll catch
Speaker 2: a break and then we'll tell you about What chase
Speaker 2: has going on.
Speaker 1: Before we let him go out of studio.
Speaker 2: HERE i don't know When kyle is going to decide
Speaker 2: that he's done doing. This i'm not a media member
Speaker 2: that beats that story over the. HEAD i feel like
Speaker 2: when he's, done we may not even, Know like he
Speaker 2: might just be done and then go live his. Life
Speaker 2: But sean, O'Connell who does our midday, show he has
Speaker 2: sources With Utah football that believe this is it For,
Speaker 2: kyle that this is the last dance this year is
Speaker 2: the last dance For. Kyle as somebody who knows Both
Speaker 2: kyle And, morgan it feels Like. Morgan the support is
Speaker 2: unanimous from alumni that, yes he is the. Guy let's
Speaker 2: just get let's you, know this feels like it would be
Speaker 2: seamless in the history of, sports both college and. Pro
Speaker 2: taking over for a legend is a tough. Ask it just,
Speaker 2: is how do you feel like the transition will look
Speaker 2: and will go once it actually.
Speaker 3: Happens, YEAH i, mean first of, All i'll be the first.
Speaker 3: Asa i'm gonna be bummed WHEN i see whit go
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i was one of those guys who JUST i loved,
Speaker 3: him you, know as hardcore as he was and as you,
Speaker 3: know sometimes old school as he, was he was LIKE
Speaker 3: i was like my. COACH i, was you, know the
Speaker 3: GUY i assigned up to play, for and he was
Speaker 3: EVERYTHING i hoped he would. Be and you, know if
Speaker 3: this is his last, DANCE i hope they sent him
Speaker 3: out with a.
Speaker 1: Bang BUT i.
Speaker 3: Do and have always said That scalley's the best Coach
Speaker 3: i've ever played for in terms of a football, mind
Speaker 3: in terms of, preparation in terms of the work he,
Speaker 3: puts in terms of understanding the game in terms of
Speaker 3: his ability to recruit and connect with. People you, KNOW
Speaker 3: i don't want to set two high expectations that he
Speaker 3: would never live up. To AND i, think you, know
Speaker 3: as you, know you, nation we shouldn't do, That like
Speaker 3: there might be a little, blip BUT i just in,
Speaker 3: short if there's anyone who can do it At, scalley
Speaker 3: AND i think everyone feels the same. Way it's just
Speaker 3: to your, point it's it's hard because it's, like, well
Speaker 3: what's what's the next? Level and the next level is
Speaker 3: something real big because What utah Did underwit is you,
Speaker 3: know about as high as you could get without doing you,
Speaker 3: know the very top, thing you, know without winning the whole.
Speaker 3: Thing and SO i think that's the expectation which is gonna,
Speaker 3: like you, know it's really hard for him With Firs,
Speaker 3: scalley but he's you, know he's the guy for the,
Speaker 3: job and He's i'm excited for that era whenever it.
Speaker 3: Comes if if this is what's last dance or, not who.
Speaker 3: Knows that guy always needs to find more energy and
Speaker 3: more wind and more work and it'll be, interesting all.
Speaker 2: Right last thing for this segment that we'll catch a
Speaker 2: quick break the anatomy of a position. CHANGE i don't
Speaker 2: have any data to line up The utah coaching staff
Speaker 2: with other coaching staffs in college.
Speaker 1: Football it just feels like they know how to do.
Speaker 2: This quarterback Lone, Peak Chase, Hansen All packed, twelve, Linebacker
Speaker 2: nate Faka, Fula Nate orchard later, on all state wide
Speaker 2: Receiver Highland High. School you, know still holds this single
Speaker 2: season sack record For.
Speaker 1: UTAH i could keep, going as you, know what's that? Process?
Speaker 2: Like like when Did kyle Or morgan first say to, you, like,
Speaker 2: look we know you want to be a quarterback and
Speaker 2: you're really good at, that but if you do, this
Speaker 2: we think you can be next?
Speaker 1: Level what's? That what's that? Process?
Speaker 3: Like, YEAH i guess the quick answer to that. ONE
Speaker 3: i guess the last question IS I i kind of
Speaker 3: did it to myself in that. REGARD i WAS i.
Speaker 3: WAS i was Behind Travis wilson AND.
Speaker 1: Kentl.
Speaker 3: Thompson, yeah and they're, like, hey like you're not getting
Speaker 3: a ton of time like they were doing the wildcat.
Speaker 3: THING i would occasionally go in there and you, know
Speaker 3: run some readoption With, booker but they felt LIKE, I i,
Speaker 3: MEAN i was itching LIKE i was, LIKE i just
Speaker 3: want to, play AND i kind of went to. ONE
Speaker 3: i was, LIKE i won't to, play LIKE i am
Speaker 3: like feeling really good, physically LIKE i CAN i can.
Speaker 3: Help and so they basically, said, hey put you on a.
Speaker 3: KICKOFF i went down and made some plays and they, said,
Speaker 3: hey you, know we got some injuries of. Safety you
Speaker 3: want to go in like with, like don't. Worry this
Speaker 3: is just like a one time. Thing and you, know his,
Speaker 3: story you, know went the way it. Went so it
Speaker 3: wasn't necessarily. THEM i feel like they genuinely honored their
Speaker 3: commitment to, say, hey we're going to give you shot at,
Speaker 3: quarterback and they. DID i went to them and, SAID
Speaker 3: i mean mutually kind of met together and there, said
Speaker 3: how are you, feeling, like like do you want to stick.
Speaker 1: This out of?
Speaker 3: Quarterback AND i was, LIKE i just want to, play
Speaker 3: LIKE i just want to be on the, field LIKE
Speaker 3: i KNOW i can add value and Maybe i'll play
Speaker 3: safety in the next, Year i'll play, quarterback you. KNOW i,
Speaker 3: thought that's you, know that's kind of how my brain was.
Speaker 3: Working and so, yeah that's the way it played. Out
Speaker 3: and in terms of recruiting and the way it happens.
Speaker 3: NORMALLY i think they just recruit, athletes and they recruit,
Speaker 3: athletes and if they end up playing quarterback and they're
Speaker 3: a great quarterback, athlete it. Works and if, not they,
Speaker 3: say we can put this kid somewhere. Else AND i
Speaker 3: think that's really really, smart AND i think that's becoming
Speaker 3: more and more common in all. Sports you, know you
Speaker 3: hear about baseball teams that only recruit shortstops and they put,
Speaker 3: them you, know in the outfield or a third base
Speaker 3: or at first, base and it's, like, well it's because
Speaker 3: it's usually the best athlete out.
Speaker 1: There and SO i.
Speaker 3: The recruiting, method it just mine was mine's kind of
Speaker 3: unique in the sense that there was a little bit
Speaker 3: of an itch to just LIKE i just want to
Speaker 3: go hit. People AND i kind of felt the defense
Speaker 3: in me started to come, out you, know WHEN i
Speaker 3: got on special teams and, yeah just and THEN i
Speaker 3: got heard and it was a whole whole, thing but
Speaker 3: it was it, Was, yeah it just played out kind
Speaker 3: of the way it, did and it worked.
Speaker 1: Out.
Speaker 2: Man i'll tell you What Chase hanson is with. Us
Speaker 2: we'll catch a quick. Break we'll tell you What chase
Speaker 2: has is going. On coming up on the other, Side
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Speaker 2: Chase, Hansen live in the, studio one of the best
Speaker 2: to do it at The university Of, utah laid in
Speaker 2: the pros for about four years with The. Saints gonna
Speaker 2: bring In smitty coming up in just a little. Bit all, Right,
Speaker 2: Chase we've been talking, about, well a lot of. Things
Speaker 2: it's been a very illumine conversation with you, today as
Speaker 2: it always, is but you have a lot of interest
Speaker 2: outside of the world of, football so let's talk about
Speaker 2: the business that you're involved in right. Now and, also
Speaker 2: as you were telling me about your health issues as
Speaker 2: a football, player the injuries you, HAD i wonder if
Speaker 2: those experiences kind of colored the approach to what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Now is that fair to? Say, yeah for?
Speaker 3: Sure AND i appreciate the question because obviously my health
Speaker 3: has played a role in a number of, things in
Speaker 3: the number of Moves i've made my. Life but basically
Speaker 3: the life and personal and business update is that WHEN
Speaker 3: i was in the, LEAGUE i felt like everything THAT
Speaker 3: i was putting into my body before games and during
Speaker 3: games just wasn't necessarily in help improving my health and
Speaker 3: wasn't really improving my performance that. Much AND i saw
Speaker 3: these guys taking you, know pre workouts and energy, drinks
Speaker 3: and it just it felt like it had small net
Speaker 3: positive for performance and mostly net negative for. Health and
Speaker 3: so ONCE i, finished and even towards the end of
Speaker 3: my last, SEASON i, SAID i want to make a.
Speaker 3: PRODUCT i want to start a business that changes this for.
Speaker 3: ATHLETES i want, to you, know create a, product a supplement,
Speaker 3: company which is What i've done with some co, founders
Speaker 3: and we created a product are our current and only,
Speaker 3: product which is Called. Flow it's actually it's A i'm
Speaker 3: kind of giving a sneak peak. There we we haven't
Speaker 3: announced the yes. Others it's Called flow and it's it's
Speaker 3: basically a pre game stick pack supplement for athletes to
Speaker 3: take before sports that improves their, endurance their their mental,
Speaker 3: performance their, hydration like improves all these physical aspects of their,
Speaker 3: performance all without caffeine and, stimulants and also has a
Speaker 3: net positive to. Health so it's it's a solution to
Speaker 3: the fact that there's never really been a pre game.
Speaker 3: Supplement it's always been athletes taking gym products and energy
Speaker 3: drinks for sports that weren't designed for. It and so
Speaker 3: with a bunch of really smart people and nutritionists and
Speaker 3: dieticians and, scientists they're all smarter than, myself we put
Speaker 3: together something that's specifically designed for athletes to take before.
Speaker 3: Sports AND i don't totally know If i'm allowed announce.
Speaker 3: This we have you, know different schools in the area
Speaker 3: that we're working with and that are taking, it you
Speaker 3: know as well before. Games, so, uh that's that's the
Speaker 3: quick on what we're. Making and we're we're you, know
Speaker 3: kind of we have a relaunch, essentially is what it
Speaker 3: is coming up this week that we're announcing with this,
Speaker 3: product and we're going to make future products for athletes
Speaker 3: as well in the. Future so that's kind of a
Speaker 3: quick snippet on the career entrepreneurial path right. Now and
Speaker 3: it's it's Called oomph is the name of the, company
Speaker 3: by the, way just to put a little quick plug
Speaker 3: in there for for oomp.
Speaker 2: And the website is oomfathlete dot com and oomph is
Speaker 2: spelled oo.
Speaker 1: Mph, yes appreciate.
Speaker 3: It, yeah it's A sometimes people hear the word they're
Speaker 3: not really sure what we're.
Speaker 1: SAYING i like.
Speaker 2: It so we have the official launch event coming up
Speaker 2: On saturday the twenty Six that Wordle Fields Regional park In. Bluffdale,
Speaker 2: oh NOW i feel bad because you have a pickleball.
Speaker 2: TOURNAMENT i was just making fun of piketball.
Speaker 1: Players.
Speaker 3: SORRY i aligned with you on your, comments BUT i
Speaker 3: still appreciate. Pickleball but it is a pick aball tournament.
Speaker 3: Launch there's a lot more than just pickleball going, on
Speaker 3: so it's kind of a whole open invite to people
Speaker 3: who want to come just try the, product play volleyball
Speaker 3: and mess.
Speaker 1: Around kind of a. Thing.
Speaker 2: Cool we got eight am eleven am doubles pickleball tournament
Speaker 2: prizes for top teams nine am to two, pm new
Speaker 2: product and flavored.
Speaker 1: Tasting you can play a little spike.
Speaker 2: Ball love me some Spike ball another game that gets
Speaker 2: a little hairy with The Checkets Family.
Speaker 1: Volleyball Free Jimmy john's as.
Speaker 2: Well so the official launch event coming up On, Saturday
Speaker 2: july the twenty. Sixth how does a pre workout drink
Speaker 2: be effective without caffeine or stimulus Because I'm i'm just
Speaker 2: a forty seven year old has been that's trying to
Speaker 2: keep my body. Together SO i do use a pre workout.
Speaker 2: Drink but there is a lot of caffeine in. It,
Speaker 2: yeah how does what make sure is a?
Speaker 3: Fact, yeah it's A i, mean you're you're asking some
Speaker 3: risky questions Because i'll go down a rabbit hole with
Speaker 3: this stuff Because i'm really interested in. It but we
Speaker 3: And i'm far from like a caffeine. HATER i JUST
Speaker 3: i get a little shaky with. Caffeine there are some
Speaker 3: negatives to the fact that it. It you, know it
Speaker 3: constricts your blood flood, vessels limits blood, flow and in
Speaker 3: some studies it's shown to actually impact endurance in a negative. Way,
Speaker 3: interesting and so our product, actually you, know dilates the blood,
Speaker 3: vessels it improves, Endurance it improves this longer wind and
Speaker 3: so we have beatroot in our, product which is great
Speaker 3: for you, know it's been used for a long.
Speaker 1: Time that's WHAT i took in.
Speaker 3: College you, know we have a lot of, that a
Speaker 3: ton of nitrates in, it more THAN i think any
Speaker 3: other product that actually improves that. Endurance we have adaptations
Speaker 3: and neotropics that improve your mental. Performance we have electrolytes
Speaker 3: and then our last product had. Carbs we remove that
Speaker 3: to give a quick little sneak, peek we're making a
Speaker 3: product that's also with carbs that you'll be able to
Speaker 3: add to you, know add with our current product flow
Speaker 3: that will add a ton of. Value so it's there's
Speaker 3: a lot of ways that you can you, know take
Speaker 3: a product and improves your performance without. Caffeine having said,
Speaker 3: that caffeine has you, know a lot of, studies there's
Speaker 3: a lot of studies on it's it's you, know net,
Speaker 3: positive like it does improve. Performance but we're going to
Speaker 3: non cafemated route and there's there's a lot of merit
Speaker 3: and a lot of a lot to why we're going that.
Speaker 3: Route so that's uh, yeah it's it's it's not necessarily
Speaker 3: something that you, need but we there's there's a way
Speaker 3: to do it and that really improves performance in a good.
Speaker 1: Way i'll take your word for. IT i don't study
Speaker 1: in of.
Speaker 2: It i'm, like, oh we work Out harmon's, okay there's
Speaker 2: a little creat you, KNOW i got. You so go
Speaker 2: to oomp athlete dot, com oomfathlete dot. Com uh O
Speaker 2: o m p hathlete dot com and then stop by
Speaker 2: the official launch event coming up On saturday At Wardle
Speaker 2: Fields Regional park In.
Speaker 1: Bluffdale BEFORE i.
Speaker 2: Say you, Loose i'm going to take advantage of having
Speaker 2: you in studio and ask you a question About, lander
Speaker 2: About Lander.
Speaker 1: Barton, sorry CAN i just say real? Quick, yeah that's?
Speaker 3: Cool just with that as, well we don't have the
Speaker 3: the products not yet for sale because we're still it's
Speaker 3: still technically in a pre order, phase so if you
Speaker 3: do go to the, website it'll be more of like
Speaker 3: a sign, up get on the email, list and In
Speaker 3: august eleventh is if the official launch day for the,
Speaker 3: product when it's going to be available to sell and all. That,
Speaker 3: SORRY i wanted to put in that quick plug as
Speaker 3: well for anyone who does end up going to the website.
Speaker 1: For sure and let us know when it's.
Speaker 2: Available we'll update our information to a big twelve media.
Speaker 2: DAY a couple of weeks, ago we were lucky enough
Speaker 2: to sit down With Lander barton for about twenty minutes
Speaker 2: AND i was telling you off, air just a sweet,
Speaker 2: kid just like a, lovely like fun person to talk,
Speaker 2: to and The barton, family it's royalty at The university Of.
Speaker 2: Utah as you, know every year it seems like there's
Speaker 2: just well plenty of guys make, plays but you, know
Speaker 2: The Nate, orchards The Chase, hansen's The Devin, lloyd's The.
Speaker 2: Clark like every year feels like there's just one dude
Speaker 2: that makes plays that change games on that side of the.
Speaker 1: Ball feels like it could be him this. Year what
Speaker 1: are you expecting From lander this? Year, yeah AND i.
Speaker 3: DON'T i really Like, lander AND i don't want to
Speaker 3: set two high expectations on him BECAUSE i think that's
Speaker 3: he's kind of had some unfair expectations put on, him,
Speaker 3: honestly rightfully, so because he's a freak and he's he's
Speaker 3: got all the physical. Tools but having said, THAT i
Speaker 3: think he is the, guy AND i think if they're
Speaker 3: gonna have a stellar, defense he's gonna have to be
Speaker 3: the guy who does make big plays and big, moments
Speaker 3: and he does it on a consistent. BASIS i think think
Speaker 3: as a friend and someone who you know knows, HIM
Speaker 3: i think my number one thing IS i JUST i
Speaker 3: hope the dude can stay healthy and stay healthy all,
Speaker 3: season and just you, know he had a few things
Speaker 3: a few. Hiccups but that's my hope for, him is
Speaker 3: because if he's if he stays, HEALTHY i just think
Speaker 3: he's gonna be a. GUY i think they're gonna put
Speaker 3: him in a good position in. There he's gonna go and make.
Speaker 3: Plays he you, know he's he's got it, mentally he's
Speaker 3: got it. PHYSICALLY i think he. Will AND i JUST i,
Speaker 3: think like most, guys it's just gonna be a matter
Speaker 3: of him staying. Healthy but he's he's the, man And
Speaker 3: i'm excited to, see you, know where his career takes
Speaker 3: and you, know now and and, later because, he's like you,
Speaker 3: said he's not just a.
Speaker 1: Ball he's a good. Dude, yeah, yeah for. Sure, hey
Speaker 1: thanks so. Much it's always good to see. You CAN
Speaker 1: i ask you real? Quick, yeah go.
Speaker 3: AHEAD i heard there were rumors in the hallway that
Speaker 3: in a start bench cut, scenario you you benched.
Speaker 1: Me is that is that? True?
Speaker 2: Okay first of, all who's selling me? Out who's selling me?
Speaker 2: Out BECAUSE i heard you bench? Me you, know because
Speaker 2: he let, Me i'm gonna ask you the, question uh, huh,
Speaker 2: Okay AND I i had to really consider this BECAUSE
Speaker 2: i knew you were coming in the. Studio, okay it
Speaker 2: Was Devin, lloyd, sure it Was Ghanny paul and good.
Speaker 1: One it was, you, okay because it was Start Bench.
Speaker 3: Cutt i'm surprised you guys didn't do, Me Devn, cody
Speaker 3: but that's those are good ones, Too.
Speaker 1: So SO i felt LIKE i had to. Start. Devin i'm,
Speaker 1: SORRY i, mean what's you what's YOUR i.
Speaker 3: Mean if If devon's here with, Me i'll, UH i
Speaker 3: would tell Him i'm starting over. Him BUT i because he's,
Speaker 3: NOT i THINK i would look stupid to Say i'm.
Speaker 3: Not here's the thing that the issue, is if you
Speaker 3: got me in a, Room cody in the, ROOM gbpo
Speaker 3: in a, Room devin in, room we're all going to
Speaker 3: say that in our, prime we're the ones that are gonna.
Speaker 3: Start but if you're an outside of looking. In someone
Speaker 3: actually told me, that AND i, said that's that's that's
Speaker 3: the right, call that's the right. DECISION i just wanted
Speaker 3: to give you hard time about it BECAUSE i, UH
Speaker 3: i don't. KNOW i WON'T i won't reveal my.
Speaker 1: Source all, right, Man, well, look it's always a.
Speaker 2: Pleasure you need any, support anything along the lines as
Speaker 2: far as what you're, Building please reach.
Speaker 1: Out you always always have a home. Here, OKAY i appreciate.
Speaker 2: It Chase hansen one of the best to ever do.
Speaker 2: It at The, universe she viewed talk who would start?
Speaker 2: Over Devin lloyd's on the, record all, right