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<v Speaker 1>You'll be away five seventeen. Do you want to report

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<v Speaker 1>a UFO hanging in? We don't want to report every

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one. Do you wish to report a UFO over hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to one.

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<v Speaker 2>Of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Areas thirty one. Do you wish to find a report

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<v Speaker 1>of any kind of it?

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds.

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<v Speaker 1>Areas thirty one me neither. There were seven one golf

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<v Speaker 1>good if it was anybody as above us to pass us,

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<v Speaker 1>Like thirty seconds ago, we.

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<v Speaker 3>Were sending one of golf negative.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, OFFI the UFO.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's murder ten nine o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, if you passed over.

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<v Speaker 3>Out, I don't know what it was, but it's from

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<v Speaker 3>at least to three thousand feet above us.

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<v Speaker 1>See, I passed right over the top of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety one one.

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<v Speaker 4>We just called both to be the four.

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<v Speaker 1>They're after staying the airplanes. He is.

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<v Speaker 2>To God on an unidentified object, every liberty or call

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<v Speaker 2>or calm on an unidentified flying object.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to UFO Chronicles, a place where people share their

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<v Speaker 4>experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had an encounter,

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<v Speaker 3>Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. I hope you

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<v Speaker 3>are doing well this week. I'm Nick Hunter and this

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<v Speaker 3>is the UFO Chronicles podcast. Tonight, we're in Massachusetts to

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<v Speaker 3>meet Lee as he shares more personal and family experiences

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<v Speaker 3>that date back to his teen years, disembodied voices, dark shadows,

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<v Speaker 3>his dog, barking at strange orbs in the house, and

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<v Speaker 3>other things that go bump in the night. Lee is

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<v Speaker 3>in the description of this episode. Any help is very

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<v Speaker 3>much appreciated. Now on with the show. Helloly, Welcome to

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<v Speaker 3>the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, Ben, Thank you, thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning to you. It is great to have you

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<v Speaker 3>joined us today, and you'll call in from the state

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<v Speaker 3>of Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Now, Lee, you have multiple paranormal experiences going back

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<v Speaker 3>to your teen years. Would you be so kind as

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<v Speaker 3>to start at the beginning, Please.

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<v Speaker 1>Sir, So some of my experiences date back to the

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<v Speaker 1>eighties when I was living in Connecticut as well as

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<v Speaker 1>having some experiences that I wanted to share. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to share my experience with you and your listeners. It

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<v Speaker 1>dates back into the nineteen eighties when I was a

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<v Speaker 1>teenager and then moving on to when I was in college.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a few experiences there as well as in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did have you know, I think I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to start, maybe start with the one when I saw

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this day and age, we call them UAPs,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess or UFO, but I did see something and

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<v Speaker 1>I do not know what it was. So basically this

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<v Speaker 1>was back around two thousand and three two thousand and four.

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<v Speaker 1>I was working in Boston. So to preface this, I

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<v Speaker 1>love it airplanes. I'm always looking up in the sky

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<v Speaker 1>looking for airplanes. I have even applications to see what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of plane it is that's going over my head.

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<v Speaker 1>So where I was located in Boston, it was probably

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<v Speaker 1>on a holiday. It was probably a holiday week because

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<v Speaker 1>there was like really nobody in the office and it

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<v Speaker 1>was very, very slow. So I just happened to be

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<v Speaker 1>looking out the office window and when I'm looking out

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<v Speaker 1>the office window. You can actually see the pattern of

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<v Speaker 1>airplanes coming into Logan. All right, so there's a downwind,

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<v Speaker 1>a base, and then there's a final So there was

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<v Speaker 1>there was a cloud layer. I can't exactly tell you

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<v Speaker 1>how many feet it was, but you can actually see

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<v Speaker 1>the airplanes going the downwind on one of the runways

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<v Speaker 1>and actually coming out of the clouds. So I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was really wild to watch. So it was constantly

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<v Speaker 1>watching these come in and then they go farther out,

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<v Speaker 1>they go behind some buildings, and then when you see

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<v Speaker 1>them it comes back. It's coming. It's going to be landing.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's on the final approach from there. So I

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<v Speaker 1>watched about two or three of those planes and I

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<v Speaker 1>see this this little black dot way far out, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like going, huh. You know, I'm considering where the

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<v Speaker 1>pattern is for these airplanes. I'm like that that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>look right, like why would something be right there? And

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, it's not really moving, or at least

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think it was because it was far away.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, as I start see I could start

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<v Speaker 1>to actually see it moving and it's and it's going

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<v Speaker 1>slow and it's moving across the pattern, so I actually

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<v Speaker 1>see it go near an airplane. Okay, with the airplane

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<v Speaker 1>was coming out of the clouds and it came I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sitting here watching him going, you know, is that a helicopter.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what kind of jerk would be doing that

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<v Speaker 1>with a helicopter? What kind of you know, approval from

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<v Speaker 1>air traffic control would allow these people to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, this is before drones and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least what we knew of drones, and so

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<v Speaker 1>this is coming by and so I'm like, okay, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that really is getting closer. And then when I saw

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<v Speaker 1>the plane, that same plane come for its final approach,

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<v Speaker 1>it was in between where it was when it was

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<v Speaker 1>coming down when and final approach, and so the black

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<v Speaker 1>dots getting bigger. I'm like, oh my god, you know

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<v Speaker 1>this this helicopter is going to get hit. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, well, maybe you know, it doesn't look

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<v Speaker 1>like a helicopter because it was that that was that

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<v Speaker 1>closer at this time. And then another airplane came down

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<v Speaker 1>and by the time it was on its final it

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<v Speaker 1>was even closer to me. It was between me and

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<v Speaker 1>the airplane, and it was this black dot or black Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was basically, and I'm like, go, okay, maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>just like a bunch of balloons that's going. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching it. I'm watching the way that the clouds

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<v Speaker 1>are going, and I'm like, well, if those were balloons,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be following the clouds. And it's coming across okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm like, oh, please please just get closer

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<v Speaker 1>to me so I can see what you are. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just please, please, please get closer. And it's actually getting

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<v Speaker 1>closer and closer to me. So by the time it

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<v Speaker 1>got as close as it did to me, I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>it it looked like a black circle. Okay, nothing exciting,

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<v Speaker 1>no lights on it, no nothing. And so I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what is that? And so it's like literally

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<v Speaker 1>right at the cloud line, and so it's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like going in and out of the clouds, so like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a straight cloud layer, so it's not broken layer,

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<v Speaker 1>straight layer. So it's like right at the edge. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm sort of, you know, it was almost over

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<v Speaker 1>the building, but so I'm like cranking my head and

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<v Speaker 1>neck to see where it is, and it literally stops

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just sitting there and sat there for like

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<v Speaker 1>two or three minutes. I'm like, how could that be balloons?

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<v Speaker 1>Even if it was balloons, it'd be going in a

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<v Speaker 1>different direction. So I'm sitting there watching it, and next

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<v Speaker 1>thing I know, it starts to back up from which

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<v Speaker 1>way it came. And so it literally backs up all

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<v Speaker 1>the way across the flight pattern again and disappears like

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<v Speaker 1>towards Cape Cod. I mean, I know that's not crazy exciting,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do not know what that what that was again,

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<v Speaker 1>if it was balloons, it definitely was not a helicopter.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not some sort of airplane. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>round circle, you know, it wasn't huge again, no lights,

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<v Speaker 1>no nothing on it. And I've been you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>actually looked at on UFO, you know recordings where people

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<v Speaker 1>actually record experiences and things like that. You know, there

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<v Speaker 1>were so many in two thousand and three, two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and four that I couldn't actually find one that was

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<v Speaker 1>actually you know, the one that I saw or see

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<v Speaker 1>if anybody, you know, could coroborate my experience. So but

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<v Speaker 1>that was that's the one that I actually had with

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<v Speaker 1>something that was flying that I just could not figure

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<v Speaker 1>out or understand. I've told a couple of people about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, you know, if you're like, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>probably a bunch of balloons, I'm like, well, balloons just

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<v Speaker 1>don't go backwards in this wind, didn't change direction or

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that. So I have no idea what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's where I get into that particular experience when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to, you know, the paranormal stuff or what

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<v Speaker 1>we think is paranormal. Again, all of these things, well

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<v Speaker 1>most of these experiences happened either in Connecticut, New York,

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<v Speaker 1>or Massachusetts. Basically what most of these things, especially at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning, I tried to tried to have an explanation

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<v Speaker 1>for it. I really it's not that I didn't believe it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just didn't think anything would happen to me

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, people say the sea ghosts and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So the first thing that happened to me,

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<v Speaker 1>so where I wasn't where I was brought up in Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a nicer size house, It's a nicer size colonial,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had probably about two to three hundred feet

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<v Speaker 1>of woods behind us, and behind that there was a cemetery.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a nice cemetery. It's not one with like old

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<v Speaker 1>gravestones or anything like that. Actually, if you had looked

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<v Speaker 1>straight at it, you wouldn't even know his gravesite. These

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<v Speaker 1>gravestones are actually set into the grass flat, so if

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<v Speaker 1>you were to look at it straight through, you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>even see any gravestones or anything like that. So either

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<v Speaker 1>which way, when I was younger, it still spooked me

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<v Speaker 1>out when we first moved in there. So the first

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<v Speaker 1>thing that happened was, and this happened a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>times throughout, you know, throughout a year or so, is

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<v Speaker 1>that I would hear my name. So I'd sit in

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<v Speaker 1>and I could have sworn I heard my mother calling me,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you know, I scream out, I'm like what

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<v Speaker 1>you know? In their bedroom. It sounded like it was

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<v Speaker 1>coming from their bedroom, which is right down the hallway.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm like what you know? And so I would

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<v Speaker 1>get up, I'd run over to the room and there's

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<v Speaker 1>just hearing things whatever. So it happened to me again

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<v Speaker 1>not too long after that, and again this is probably

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<v Speaker 1>when I was in high school, and so of course,

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<v Speaker 1>again I'm like, what Mom, what and so they would

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<v Speaker 1>call out two or three times, and so I went

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<v Speaker 1>downstairs and where our family room is, if you call

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<v Speaker 1>from one end of the room together, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>really scream in order for somebody to hear you. So

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<v Speaker 1>I went downstairs on my mother's under blanket doing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>reading a book or something like that in the family room,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, you know, you were calling me. What's

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<v Speaker 1>going on? She was like, I didn't call you. I'm like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's weird. That's like the second or third time that

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<v Speaker 1>oh you know, maybe I've got auditory hallucinations. I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I was too afraid to come up, and so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so that really freaked us out. Couldn't explain that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so we figured there's something going on. And then actually,

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit. The other thing that that had

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<v Speaker 1>they would actually there was hazing, okay. And what they

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<v Speaker 1>And what they would do is they had a big,

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<v Speaker 1>and they would throw the plums and peaches and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff, and all the pieces of fruit would

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<v Speaker 1>all sticky and sweaty. You know, bees would come around,

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<v Speaker 1>were sent home before our second practice. So I decided,

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<v Speaker 1>second one. So get the water into, you know, take

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just sitting there waiting, you know, just in there,

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<v Speaker 1>And we had dual sinks across from where the bath

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<v Speaker 1>and shower is, and the water is turned on full,

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<v Speaker 1>goosebumps because that really freaked me out. I'm like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>started to really think about what's going on, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my god. And I jumped out of the tub, threw

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<v Speaker 1>on a towel, and ran downstairs and I'm like, mom,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my god. So the fauce had just turned on.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, well, maybe you kicked it with your foot

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. I'm like, no, no, this is

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the tub. The faucet in the sink

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<v Speaker 1>turned on, and we have those where, you know, she's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the water pressure or something like that. Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like fifteen or sixteen. I've never seen that something

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<v Speaker 1>like that ever happened. Plus it's you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like a pulley, it's it was a it's a knob

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<v Speaker 1>to turn the water on and off. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so she sort of was like, you know, pooh pooing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, I wouldn't even go back upstairs. And

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<v Speaker 1>upstairs to turn it off. I must have. But so

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<v Speaker 1>There was the This was probably when I was just

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<v Speaker 1>scene our family room. It's a larger family room. In

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<v Speaker 1>the back, we have a in the back of the house,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a big sliding glass door with curtains, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, then in the middle we have like

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<v Speaker 1>then like towards the front front of the family room,

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<v Speaker 1>hate people. I hate to have the lights on in

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<v Speaker 1>it's dark and I can't see what's going on outside,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially with this graveyard out in the back and

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<v Speaker 1>spooked out. So I'd always closed the curtains at night

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<v Speaker 1>so that and I'd just start to watch TV. So

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<v Speaker 1>my family's in bed and I'm watching TV, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually see the couch. I can see myself

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<v Speaker 1>in the reflection of the big bay and I can

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<v Speaker 1>see the curtains over the over the sliding glass door,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I just happened to notice. So I'm watching

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<v Speaker 1>the TV and if I just shifted to the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going, huh that, you know, I don't understand, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to like the middle, and I'm like looking at it,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, that is weird. I wonder what's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what that is outside? And it starts moving.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the bay window, it's moving from the right

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<v Speaker 1>back of that house, it was going from left to right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm watching it, I'm going, oh my god, that

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<v Speaker 1>it looked like I can't even say it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a human shape. It was just sort of a thinner,

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<v Speaker 1>shadowy type of thing. And I'm watching it. I'm going,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not outside, that's inside, because I can actually see

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<v Speaker 1>it going between the couch and the reflection in the window.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see it going between the couch and the

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<v Speaker 1>back the back curtains where that covered the sliding door,

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<v Speaker 1>because I could actually see it because it was sort

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<v Speaker 1>of opaque, right, I think that's the word. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm getting goosebumps right now thinking about this still.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it went from right to left and then

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<v Speaker 1>it went out of the you couldn't see it in

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<v Speaker 1>the reflection of the window anymore. And I sat there

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<v Speaker 1>just terrified for like five minutes. I couldn't move, and

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<v Speaker 1>I finally got the courage to get up and I

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<v Speaker 1>or they would probably think that it was I was

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<v Speaker 1>just seeing things. So I sort of kept that one

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<v Speaker 1>don't know whether my brother had mentioned it to my parents,

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<v Speaker 1>but just started to tell them about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit older at this point, and they're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>out there. So at that point we were like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not just trying to protect us as kids, like

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<v Speaker 1>and so they were starting to maybe take to consideration

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<v Speaker 1>and I just feel like something's tugging on my sheets,

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<v Speaker 1>told you, and there's nobody there. I'm like going, wow,

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00:20:57.319 --> 00:20:59.079
<v Speaker 1>that was a little weird. That happened to me a

416
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<v Speaker 1>couple of times. And then another time, me and my

417
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<v Speaker 1>friends before we were going out for the evening, one

418
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<v Speaker 1>of my friends decided we were going to I was

419
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<v Speaker 1>about five of us. We were going to use Auigi board.

420
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<v Speaker 1>And I really never believed in the Ouigi board stuff.

421
00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I still don't know any much about it. You know,

422
00:21:16.680 --> 00:21:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I've heard the certain things like you're not supposed to play,

423
00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:21.359
<v Speaker 1>you're inviting certain things in. But back then, as kids,

424
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<v Speaker 1>it was no hold spark. So a couple of us

425
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<v Speaker 1>had our fingers on it, and you know, we all

426
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<v Speaker 1>promise not to push it or whatever, and you know,

427
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<v Speaker 1>close your eyes, and so of course, me being in

428
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<v Speaker 1>the skeptic, you know, I've got my eyes, you know,

429
00:21:34.359 --> 00:21:36.519
<v Speaker 1>I've got my eyes half open, and you know, watching

430
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<v Speaker 1>my friends, you know, and at least two of them,

431
00:21:39.319 --> 00:21:42.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that they were going to push it. So

432
00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:45.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, it was moving around a little bit, and

433
00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:47.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you know, somebody's pushing it, and all of

434
00:21:47.799 --> 00:21:50.640
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, I hear I hear this. I hear this

435
00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:54.079
<v Speaker 1>whistling and it was like a whistling to a tune,

436
00:21:54.119 --> 00:21:56.079
<v Speaker 1>and I don't remember what the tune was, but it

437
00:21:56.119 --> 00:21:59.400
<v Speaker 1>was coming from the hallway and I see my one

438
00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:01.559
<v Speaker 1>of my friends all of a sudden, he just like

439
00:22:01.640 --> 00:22:03.319
<v Speaker 1>looks up. And we actually had like a candle or

440
00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:07.880
<v Speaker 1>something going, and he just looks up and the expression

441
00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:10.440
<v Speaker 1>on his face, you know, I because of the lightning,

442
00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:12.319
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't tell whether he's wide or not, but the

443
00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:15.200
<v Speaker 1>expression on his face was like it wasn't he was

444
00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:19.160
<v Speaker 1>scared or whatever, just surprised. And he just starts crying,

445
00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:22.240
<v Speaker 1>you know. I'm like, hey, what's going on? And he's like,

446
00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:24.839
<v Speaker 1>did you hear that? I'm like, what did you hear?

447
00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:27.519
<v Speaker 1>He goes the whistling. Yeah, I heard the whistling to

448
00:22:27.759 --> 00:22:30.960
<v Speaker 1>that tune, and some of our other friends didn't hear it.

449
00:22:31.519 --> 00:22:33.960
<v Speaker 1>He's like, that's what my grandfather used to whistle to me.

450
00:22:34.519 --> 00:22:36.400
<v Speaker 1>So we go running out of the room and there's

451
00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:38.880
<v Speaker 1>nobody in the hallway. So there's the hallways sort of

452
00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:41.279
<v Speaker 1>like a circle, and so we ran around the hallway.

453
00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:44.640
<v Speaker 1>There's nobody there, and so he freaks out. He runs

454
00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:46.319
<v Speaker 1>out of that, He runs out of the room and

455
00:22:46.799 --> 00:22:50.000
<v Speaker 1>goes back to his dorm or whatever. And so, you know,

456
00:22:50.319 --> 00:22:52.799
<v Speaker 1>of course, my friends type of friends that I have,

457
00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:54.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, of course we're going to start to make

458
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<v Speaker 1>fun of each other. So my friend, one of my friends,

459
00:22:58.039 --> 00:23:00.000
<v Speaker 1>takes and I don't know why, he said, this is

460
00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:02.160
<v Speaker 1>the weirdest thing. But back in the day, you know,

461
00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:04.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know whether it was the seventies, it's it

462
00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:07.039
<v Speaker 1>was like the lego Maniac. I guess it's for legos

463
00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:09.720
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. It was. For one reason or another, my

464
00:23:09.759 --> 00:23:12.119
<v Speaker 1>friend grabs the Ouiji board and start, you know, we

465
00:23:12.119 --> 00:23:14.039
<v Speaker 1>were gonna put it away, and he starts to shake it.

466
00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:17.839
<v Speaker 1>He goes, ooh, it's Zach the lego Maniac again. Why

467
00:23:17.880 --> 00:23:20.599
<v Speaker 1>he said something like that, I have no idea, And

468
00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:22.920
<v Speaker 1>so we're all goofing around and I go back to

469
00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:25.880
<v Speaker 1>my dorm, you know, to go grab some things before

470
00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:28.359
<v Speaker 1>we head out. And we had this like little black

471
00:23:28.359 --> 00:23:31.759
<v Speaker 1>and white TV. And it happens, it happened to be

472
00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:33.799
<v Speaker 1>on at that point. We probably just forgot to turn

473
00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:36.559
<v Speaker 1>it off. And next thing you know, I'm sitting here

474
00:23:36.559 --> 00:23:39.400
<v Speaker 1>getting something out of drawer and there's a drummer on

475
00:23:39.480 --> 00:23:41.680
<v Speaker 1>the on the TV right, I guess it was some

476
00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:44.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of video channel or whatever it was. And all

477
00:23:44.039 --> 00:23:47.000
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, it starts flashing in big white letters.

478
00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:50.480
<v Speaker 1>It starts slashing z AK and it slashed it like

479
00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:55.039
<v Speaker 1>three or four times, and that, you know, again coincidence

480
00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:58.240
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, but that freaked me out. I went running

481
00:23:58.240 --> 00:23:59.839
<v Speaker 1>out of the room screaming to my buddies, I'm like

482
00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:01.759
<v Speaker 1>to see this. But of course by that time it

483
00:24:01.799 --> 00:24:04.279
<v Speaker 1>was over. And you know, of course, at that point

484
00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I was pretty much the laughing stock of the of

485
00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:09.119
<v Speaker 1>the evening or the teas of the evening, because I

486
00:24:09.160 --> 00:24:11.559
<v Speaker 1>saw that they probably shouldn't have even shared it with him,

487
00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:14.079
<v Speaker 1>now that I come to think of it. And then

488
00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:18.680
<v Speaker 1>let's see here, So now if we moved to our

489
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<v Speaker 1>turn place in Massachusetts. So these experiences, I don't know.

490
00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:27.240
<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you exactly how long it's been going on.

491
00:24:27.319 --> 00:24:29.319
<v Speaker 1>It's been going on for some years. But you know,

492
00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:31.519
<v Speaker 1>some things you're just like, ah, you know, it was

493
00:24:31.559 --> 00:24:33.799
<v Speaker 1>the wind or you know, and I'm not talking about

494
00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:37.480
<v Speaker 1>like creaking doors or you know, creaking stairs or things

495
00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:41.279
<v Speaker 1>like that. There's some of the easier things that you know,

496
00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I was always able to. I always thought I would

497
00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:44.720
<v Speaker 1>be able to just explain away as like why did

498
00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:47.559
<v Speaker 1>the TV just turn on by itself? And that happens

499
00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:50.079
<v Speaker 1>a handful of times. It's like I would just say,

500
00:24:50.440 --> 00:24:54.200
<v Speaker 1>somebody's got the same clicker, and even though our houses

501
00:24:54.200 --> 00:24:57.200
<v Speaker 1>aren't that close, you know, maybe somebody's frequency was different.

502
00:24:57.559 --> 00:24:59.480
<v Speaker 1>There's one time my wife and I were standing in

503
00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:02.079
<v Speaker 1>the kitchen and we heard the garage. You know, there

504
00:25:02.119 --> 00:25:03.839
<v Speaker 1>was a couple times when you hear the garage doors

505
00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:06.680
<v Speaker 1>open and close, and you know, we're looking at each other.

506
00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:08.720
<v Speaker 1>It's like, you know, did the kids come home or whatever,

507
00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:12.000
<v Speaker 1>And of course they weren't, and you know, that's just weird.

508
00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:14.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe somebody's got the same type of clicker,

509
00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:17.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, the same type of frequency clicker, and that's

510
00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:21.920
<v Speaker 1>what's happened. But then you know the stranger ones. You know,

511
00:25:21.960 --> 00:25:25.079
<v Speaker 1>there was one time where we were in the kitchen

512
00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:28.400
<v Speaker 1>and as we were looking at I forgot. We were

513
00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:31.400
<v Speaker 1>looking at something on a document in the kitchen for

514
00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:34.400
<v Speaker 1>one reason or another, and my wife is standing next

515
00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:38.319
<v Speaker 1>to me and it felt like something again, I don't

516
00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:41.559
<v Speaker 1>know what it was, something blue, something on my neck.

517
00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:43.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like somebody, you know, just went to my neck,

518
00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:46.400
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I just I was sort of like stunned.

519
00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wait a second. And my wife's looking at me.

520
00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:51.799
<v Speaker 1>She's like, what happened. I'm like, you were I mean,

521
00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:53.720
<v Speaker 1>we're just standing right there, right and she's like, yeah,

522
00:25:53.720 --> 00:25:57.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm like something just blew on my neck. And she's

523
00:25:57.319 --> 00:25:59.640
<v Speaker 1>like what. I'm like, no, I'm not kidding. Something just

524
00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:03.440
<v Speaker 1>bleuw on my neck. And she's like okay, and you know,

525
00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:05.000
<v Speaker 1>and they were like okay. You know, we were looking

526
00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:06.920
<v Speaker 1>at the vents in the ceiling and I'm like, you know,

527
00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:09.039
<v Speaker 1>there's no way that that vent. If like you know,

528
00:26:09.079 --> 00:26:10.759
<v Speaker 1>the air was coming through the vent, it would have

529
00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:15.279
<v Speaker 1>blown from there. That just didn't make any sense. So again, eh,

530
00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're you know, you're just dreaming something up

531
00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:19.960
<v Speaker 1>or you know, I don't know what happened. So again

532
00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:22.160
<v Speaker 1>another thing we were just sort of like, eh, not sure.

533
00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:26.880
<v Speaker 1>The Actually this one wasn't too long ago. I was

534
00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:30.519
<v Speaker 1>sleeping on my side and so I sleep on the

535
00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:33.000
<v Speaker 1>side of the bed that I sleep on. I'm looking

536
00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:36.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, if I'm facing on my left side, I'm

537
00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:38.440
<v Speaker 1>facing the front of the house, which has two windows

538
00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:42.400
<v Speaker 1>and so it was probably a probably five thirty in

539
00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:45.920
<v Speaker 1>the morning, and I don't know what just caused me

540
00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:47.720
<v Speaker 1>to open up my eyes, but I was literally in

541
00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:49.920
<v Speaker 1>the middle of a dream and I just happened to

542
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:52.559
<v Speaker 1>open up my eyes. I'm on my side, and what

543
00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing is next to the bed is a kid, okay,

544
00:26:58.839 --> 00:27:02.960
<v Speaker 1>or what looks like it, maybe six years old. But

545
00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:04.799
<v Speaker 1>the thing is is I couldn't see the face, but

546
00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I can see the hair, and the hair looked like

547
00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:11.279
<v Speaker 1>back in the seventies, some of the kids would get

548
00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:13.519
<v Speaker 1>a haircut where it was like sort of I don't

549
00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:15.480
<v Speaker 1>know what it's called, like a bob or whatever, but

550
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:17.880
<v Speaker 1>their hair is a little bit longer, but it's straight.

551
00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:20.759
<v Speaker 1>It's just like a like a really extended bowl cut,

552
00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:23.039
<v Speaker 1>but it goes down to their neck or whatever. But

553
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:26.720
<v Speaker 1>couldn't really see the face, but I could see the shirt.

554
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:29.440
<v Speaker 1>And then really, because of where it was and where

555
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I was in the bed, I couldn't see anything below that.

556
00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:34.759
<v Speaker 1>But as I'm sitting there looking at it, and for

557
00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:36.720
<v Speaker 1>the life of me, I don't know why it was

558
00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:38.839
<v Speaker 1>freaking out or scared or anything like that. I should

559
00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:41.319
<v Speaker 1>have jumped right out of my bed. You know. At first,

560
00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:44.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, am I dreaming And I'm like watching it,

561
00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:48.279
<v Speaker 1>but it's starting to dissipate. It's starting to like disappear.

562
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:51.799
<v Speaker 1>And as it's disappearing, sort of like the head went first.

563
00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:56.279
<v Speaker 1>But the shirt that whatever it was or what it

564
00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:58.920
<v Speaker 1>looked like a shirt had on it had it was striped,

565
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:04.039
<v Speaker 1>and so with the darker stripes were dissipating not as

566
00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:07.440
<v Speaker 1>fast as the brighter stripes. This was all within about

567
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:11.119
<v Speaker 1>five six, seven seconds or something like that. And so

568
00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting there and but I couldn't really move. I'm

569
00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:16.480
<v Speaker 1>just sort of sitting there watching it just disappear. Oh

570
00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:19.319
<v Speaker 1>my god, you know, I'm really seeing this. And I'm

571
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:22.200
<v Speaker 1>awake because I remember because I was in such a dream,

572
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:25.240
<v Speaker 1>and I knew that if I was waking up, and

573
00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:27.119
<v Speaker 1>I've had this before where I wake up and it's like,

574
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:29.319
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, this is I'm still in a dream

575
00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. This wasn't that, because I knew what I

576
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:34.039
<v Speaker 1>was dreaming of, and it had nothing to do with

577
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:37.160
<v Speaker 1>friends or kids or anything like that. And actually I

578
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:38.680
<v Speaker 1>think I had to do with like fighter jets or

579
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:42.319
<v Speaker 1>something like that. And so the thing finally disappears And

580
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:44.279
<v Speaker 1>the way that I would say that it looked like

581
00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>when things were disappearing is if you look at let's

582
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>say a blind you know, if you have blinds over

583
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:54.759
<v Speaker 1>the over a window and night time or something like that,

584
00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:57.039
<v Speaker 1>or it's like dark in the room and it's light outside,

585
00:28:57.079 --> 00:28:58.880
<v Speaker 1>and you open up, let your eyes and you close

586
00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>them and you can actually the bright lines and the

587
00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>dark lines, and if you keep your eyes closed, it

588
00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:06.839
<v Speaker 1>starts to it starts to you know, go away, starts

589
00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>to you know, fade sort of something like that. So

590
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:15.359
<v Speaker 1>that one, because I was like, that was serious, you know,

591
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:17.319
<v Speaker 1>And there are other things like I was either yeah,

592
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:19.519
<v Speaker 1>you know to my wife or not. You know, we

593
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>woke up that morning and where at breakfast, I'm like,

594
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:24.079
<v Speaker 1>i'm gonna tell you something. You're you're gonna probably think

595
00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:26.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm losing it, But this is what I saw. So

596
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:29.519
<v Speaker 1>she didn't. She didn't actually come up with excuses or

597
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:32.480
<v Speaker 1>shushu WHI. She's like, wow, that's that's pretty wild. You know,

598
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen anything since. Actually, to be honest with you,

599
00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to see anything like that again, if

600
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:41.319
<v Speaker 1>if I can help it. But again, it wasn't scary

601
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:43.160
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. It just was sort of facing

602
00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:54.680
<v Speaker 1>me and definitely spooky. Do you have an interest in

603
00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:56.079
<v Speaker 1>the pair of normal? Did?

604
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<v Speaker 1>It's time. It is the x x X. The other

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<v Speaker 1>one that we have which is definitely challenging to come

616
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<v Speaker 1>up with an excuse for is we have a dog.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a couple of years back and he was barking.

618
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<v Speaker 1>This was in the evening time and he was barking

619
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<v Speaker 1>in the hallway, not just like barking, but barking at

620
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:07.279
<v Speaker 1>it looked like he was barking at something. And Nick,

621
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:09.160
<v Speaker 1>this is the this is the video that I wanted

622
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:11.720
<v Speaker 1>to try and send you, but it's too big, So

623
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to shrink it too, because it's really within

624
00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:16.680
<v Speaker 1>the first like three or four seconds that you can

625
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:18.839
<v Speaker 1>actually see it. So I'm trying to shrink it down

626
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:20.039
<v Speaker 1>so that I can send it to you if you

627
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:22.279
<v Speaker 1>want to plan on posting something like this. But so

628
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:24.079
<v Speaker 1>it's bark and he'd been doing this for like a

629
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:27.799
<v Speaker 1>night or two, and we're like, okay, that's weird, you know.

630
00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:29.880
<v Speaker 1>And so of course my wife and I like, hey,

631
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:32.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, dogs are supposed to see things, and he's

632
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:35.160
<v Speaker 1>definitely barking at something, but we can't see it. There's

633
00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>no like shadows on the wall. There was no reflections,

634
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>especially for where that is in the hallway. There's no

635
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:43.480
<v Speaker 1>reflections that would go like if a car was going

636
00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>by on the street. There would be no you know,

637
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>lights going down that part of the hallway. So we

638
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>decide this one night, we're like, okay, let's video, you know,

639
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:53.880
<v Speaker 1>record him. So my wife's recording. I'm on her phone

640
00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:56.319
<v Speaker 1>and she's you know, you can hear going, what you know,

641
00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:58.319
<v Speaker 1>what are you barking at? And like he's bouncing up

642
00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:01.319
<v Speaker 1>and down and he's a small dog, he's barking and barking,

643
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:03.160
<v Speaker 1>and he's like you can see him, and like you

644
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:04.759
<v Speaker 1>can see him back away a little bit and then

645
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.559
<v Speaker 1>barks more. It goes towards the wall and it comes

646
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:10.759
<v Speaker 1>running down the hallway and we're like, wow, that was weird.

647
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, I don't see anything. So we're like

648
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:15.759
<v Speaker 1>we're reviewing the recording, and we're reviewing it. We're not

649
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>seeing anything, and all of a sudden, you see this

650
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:20.599
<v Speaker 1>at the very beginning, you see this like little white

651
00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:23.400
<v Speaker 1>speck on the wall, and you're like going, huh, that's

652
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:26.519
<v Speaker 1>a little weird. And but if you keep it going

653
00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>in regular mode, like if it's if you're just watching

654
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:33.440
<v Speaker 1>the recording, it's very very difficult to see if you

655
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:35.279
<v Speaker 1>can even see it at all, but you can see

656
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:37.480
<v Speaker 1>like the white mark move just a little bit, and

657
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>you can actually see our dog sort of tracking it

658
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:41.680
<v Speaker 1>to a certain extent, but then he sort of seems

659
00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:43.640
<v Speaker 1>to lose it, but then maybe picks it back up.

660
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:47.039
<v Speaker 1>But then when you if you do it in slow mode,

661
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:49.079
<v Speaker 1>like you can do it frame by frame, you can

662
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>actually see this white dot go down the hall or

663
00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:57.279
<v Speaker 1>down the wall, and then we have like an entrance

664
00:32:57.319 --> 00:32:59.519
<v Speaker 1>way to our dining room and we have a little

665
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:01.799
<v Speaker 1>little gate there so that the dogs can't get in,

666
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:06.000
<v Speaker 1>and it actually goes across the gate, over the floor

667
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:09.359
<v Speaker 1>and then comes back up across the wall, and so

668
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:11.079
<v Speaker 1>and you can actually see that whole you can see

669
00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:13.359
<v Speaker 1>the whole trail. And then what we did is is

670
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:16.720
<v Speaker 1>we zoomed into the wall and to just where that was,

671
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:19.160
<v Speaker 1>and you can actually you know, you press it on,

672
00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:22.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, full just to watch watch it in real time.

673
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>You can actually watch this grayish white object or whatever

674
00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:29.039
<v Speaker 1>it is. You know, I think some people call it

675
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:31.640
<v Speaker 1>orbs or whatever, but you know, whenever I hear of orbs,

676
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:33.880
<v Speaker 1>it's like a really round thing. This wasn't as round.

677
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:36.119
<v Speaker 1>It's like almost like I don't I don't even know

678
00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:38.519
<v Speaker 1>how to explain it. But it's whitish gray, and it's

679
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:40.720
<v Speaker 1>a if it was against the wall, you know, maybe

680
00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:43.160
<v Speaker 1>the size of dime or whatever. But you can see it.

681
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:45.039
<v Speaker 1>You can actually or a penny, but you can actually

682
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:48.720
<v Speaker 1>see it go down the wall, go across the the gate,

683
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:50.920
<v Speaker 1>over the floor, and then come back all the way

684
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:53.960
<v Speaker 1>across the wall. And so you know, if it was

685
00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:56.759
<v Speaker 1>a reflection, you would have lost it against the gate

686
00:33:56.960 --> 00:33:58.720
<v Speaker 1>because it would have gone you would have seen the

687
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.079
<v Speaker 1>reflection of like let's lights or something like that. It

688
00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:03.200
<v Speaker 1>would have been on the floor. This really went across

689
00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the gate back and all the way back. We have

690
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:07.920
<v Speaker 1>no idea what that was, but we're thinking it was

691
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:09.559
<v Speaker 1>something like an ORB or something like that. You know,

692
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:12.719
<v Speaker 1>our dogs saw it. We can see it on the recording,

693
00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:15.440
<v Speaker 1>and we've shown some friends and they're telling us that's

694
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:17.719
<v Speaker 1>definitely something like an ORB. So, you know, when it

695
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:21.360
<v Speaker 1>comes to trying to figure out explanations for everything else,

696
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, for most of it, who knows. But for

697
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>that one, there is no explanation, and you know, whether

698
00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:28.840
<v Speaker 1>it was an ORB or something else, or a ghost

699
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:31.679
<v Speaker 1>or I have absolutely no idea what that was. But

700
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:34.039
<v Speaker 1>I would like to get that over to you, Nick,

701
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:36.679
<v Speaker 1>so that you can actually see it. I think that's

702
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:40.480
<v Speaker 1>all I've got. Hopefully that's all I've got. You know,

703
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:43.559
<v Speaker 1>some of these things can get a little spooky for me,

704
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:46.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, or my wife, So hopefully, hopefully that would

705
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:48.679
<v Speaker 1>be it. But Nick, I think that's all I've got

706
00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>for you.

707
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:52.199
<v Speaker 3>Great stuffly, yes, spooky stuff's going on.

708
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. Again, I don't know what to

709
00:34:55.880 --> 00:34:58.960
<v Speaker 1>make of these things or these experiences. But you know,

710
00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:01.800
<v Speaker 1>listening to your podcast and hearing a lot of the

711
00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:05.920
<v Speaker 1>similar experiences, sometimes you sort of forget what had happened

712
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:07.880
<v Speaker 1>in the past. So it's like, oh, you know, this

713
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:10.199
<v Speaker 1>new thing just happened, and as you start to work

714
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:12.480
<v Speaker 1>your way back. I think that's what sparked me to

715
00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:15.320
<v Speaker 1>call in, you know, and reach out to you, just

716
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:18.519
<v Speaker 1>because of hearing what your other listeners have experienced. It

717
00:35:18.559 --> 00:35:22.039
<v Speaker 1>sounded very similar. So there's got to be something going on.

718
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.039
<v Speaker 1>Just can't really explain it.

719
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:26.840
<v Speaker 3>Gotta be something going on. Indeed. Sure, yeah, we get

720
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:29.639
<v Speaker 3>that video sorted, and what I'll do is I'll put

721
00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:32.639
<v Speaker 3>it down below on the website and people can go

722
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:35.599
<v Speaker 3>and check it out. The mysterious orb.

723
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, I'd love to hear what people think about

724
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:42.800
<v Speaker 1>that once. I Once I can compress it, Nick, I'll

725
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:44.920
<v Speaker 1>send it along to you so that you can post it.

726
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:45.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

727
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:48.159
<v Speaker 3>You know, I get a lot of orbs, and yeah,

728
00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:51.639
<v Speaker 3>sure some of them can be dust particles and vibers

729
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:53.800
<v Speaker 3>and that kind of thing. But some, yeah, some of

730
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:57.119
<v Speaker 3>very strange and seem to have ah well excused a

731
00:35:57.159 --> 00:35:58.440
<v Speaker 3>pun but a life of their own.

732
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:02.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, this one. I don't know whether it reacted

733
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:04.519
<v Speaker 1>to the dog because of the way it went backwards.

734
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:07.599
<v Speaker 1>But even like if you'll watch the dog, he'll be

735
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:11.400
<v Speaker 1>looking towards it, but you don't know whether there's more

736
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:14.320
<v Speaker 1>to the orb that he's looking at and you're only

737
00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:16.719
<v Speaker 1>seeing part of it or you know, but then you'll

738
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:19.320
<v Speaker 1>see him he'll track back to it. But or maybe

739
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:22.440
<v Speaker 1>the orbs reacting to the dog because it literally backtracks.

740
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:23.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

741
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:25.679
<v Speaker 3>It's another thing, isn't it when when the animals, when

742
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:28.400
<v Speaker 3>our pets react to things that go on in the house.

743
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know it's every time now that because he

744
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:35.880
<v Speaker 1>was younger, I don't know whether this just really got

745
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:38.920
<v Speaker 1>him going. But yeah, he'll bark it like everything now

746
00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:41.599
<v Speaker 1>or like if there's like a if there's a reflection

747
00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:44.199
<v Speaker 1>on the ceiling now he'll start to freak out. And

748
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>he'd never done that before this thing. So you know,

749
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'll leave that up to you and

750
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:53.440
<v Speaker 1>you know your listeners absolutely.

751
00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:55.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean use, Yeah, you've had a lot of things

752
00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:57.679
<v Speaker 3>go on over the years. I must admit when you

753
00:36:57.719 --> 00:36:59.519
<v Speaker 3>were when you started off, when you were saying about

754
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:02.639
<v Speaker 3>the football and in the hazing session, I thought Okay,

755
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:05.239
<v Speaker 3>is this going to be like maybe a hazing session

756
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:09.840
<v Speaker 3>that went wrong? Oh no, the ghost of a previous student.

757
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, if you if if it was and

758
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:14.760
<v Speaker 1>followed me home and say, hey, listen, you need to

759
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:16.519
<v Speaker 1>listen that this is going to happen again, you know.

760
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:18.480
<v Speaker 1>And why he would turn you know, or she or

761
00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:21.599
<v Speaker 1>whatever it was turn the water on? I don't know why.

762
00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:25.639
<v Speaker 1>That's another thing that sometimes, you know, you're wondering, is,

763
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:29.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, why would it do something like that? Does

764
00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:32.360
<v Speaker 1>it just want you to know of its presence? Like,

765
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:34.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, why does it turn the TV on? Or

766
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:36.239
<v Speaker 1>why does it now We've never had like the lights

767
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:38.800
<v Speaker 1>flicker or anything like that, you know, but why would

768
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:42.199
<v Speaker 1>it do that? Or those are the kinds of questions

769
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:44.119
<v Speaker 1>that I just don't know how or why.

770
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.840
<v Speaker 3>You know, I've said this before. I think when we

771
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:50.960
<v Speaker 3>are visited some of them is very common is we

772
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:55.760
<v Speaker 3>will have dreams about past relatives, relatives that have already

773
00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:58.320
<v Speaker 3>passed over. And I've always thought, well, maybe if they

774
00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:01.079
<v Speaker 3>do come to us in our dreams, maybe that's possibly

775
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:04.360
<v Speaker 3>the easiest way for them to contact us instead of

776
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:07.039
<v Speaker 3>being able to move stuff. All right, So I think

777
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:10.400
<v Speaker 3>it's the same way when something spirits, maybe turn on

778
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:13.400
<v Speaker 3>the TV and flick the taps on and yeah, I

779
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:15.960
<v Speaker 3>used to have one of those old those taps silled

780
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:18.760
<v Speaker 3>for sits with a knob and they were quite hard

781
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:21.159
<v Speaker 3>to you know, just turn on by themselves.

782
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yeah, that's uh. I mean, why some can

783
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:28.159
<v Speaker 1>or can't or why they want to. Are they just saying, hey,

784
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:29.760
<v Speaker 1>by the way, I'm here and this is the way

785
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:32.599
<v Speaker 1>that I can contact you, or they just want to

786
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:35.000
<v Speaker 1>try and freaky out a little bit, you know, I

787
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>mean I don't know, not sure.

788
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it could be that they just can't make their

789
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:42.800
<v Speaker 3>presence completely known. So sometimes I think it's just the

790
00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:46.079
<v Speaker 3>easiest thing to knock around the house and that. But

791
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:48.679
<v Speaker 3>the mimicking of the voice, I mean that lasted for

792
00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:51.159
<v Speaker 3>about a month where you were hearing your mother's you're

793
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:52.000
<v Speaker 3>never called in you.

794
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was actually that was probably over a couple

795
00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:57.800
<v Speaker 1>of months, maybe a couple of months to six months

796
00:38:57.880 --> 00:38:58.119
<v Speaker 1>or so.

797
00:38:58.440 --> 00:38:59.000
<v Speaker 3>That's scary.

798
00:38:59.039 --> 00:38:59.400
<v Speaker 1>That is.

799
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:03.039
<v Speaker 3>I've heard my my wife's voice called me several times

800
00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:06.039
<v Speaker 3>over the years, and she's either been asleep or in

801
00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:08.039
<v Speaker 3>some cases not even in the house. And that is

802
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:10.760
<v Speaker 3>a bit a bit free when the mimic of a

803
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:12.079
<v Speaker 3>voice starts to happen.

804
00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's definitely. That one definitely got me, and especially

805
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:17.800
<v Speaker 1>when my brother heard it because I could again, I

806
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:20.599
<v Speaker 1>would try and reason certain things into, you know, why

807
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:23.280
<v Speaker 1>that had happened or whatever. But when my brother, you know,

808
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:25.599
<v Speaker 1>when my brother, when my brother experienced it a couple

809
00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:28.119
<v Speaker 1>of times, and I had never even mentioned it to him.

810
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:31.480
<v Speaker 1>And so when I had heard him screaming, what do

811
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:34.000
<v Speaker 1>you want? And like he comes into my room and says, hey,

812
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:37.400
<v Speaker 1>what does mom want? And I didn't hear it. I'm like,

813
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:40.679
<v Speaker 1>she's not even home. And you could see the look

814
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:43.280
<v Speaker 1>on his face, like what's going on? And so I'm like,

815
00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:45.440
<v Speaker 1>all right, I'll let you in. You know, I've been

816
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:48.199
<v Speaker 1>hearing that kind of stuff too, so don't know what's

817
00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:51.679
<v Speaker 1>going on. Yeah, yeah, really interesting and wild stuff. Just

818
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:52.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know how to explain it.

819
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:58.519
<v Speaker 3>But well and also that child, that child ghost you

820
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:01.480
<v Speaker 3>saw you can even pinpoint the heck yeah.

821
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:03.679
<v Speaker 1>Cut, yeah, that was And I don't know why that

822
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:07.320
<v Speaker 1>one didn't freak me out. The most ones that freaked

823
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:09.639
<v Speaker 1>me out the most or got me the most nervous

824
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:12.960
<v Speaker 1>was the faucet, that black shape, that went behind the

825
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:18.719
<v Speaker 1>couch and getting my neck blown on. Those were definitely

826
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:21.760
<v Speaker 1>the ones that were more like what, oh my god.

827
00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:25.440
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, for one reason or another and again that happened.

828
00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:29.119
<v Speaker 1>I forgot exactly how long ago that went. But nothing

829
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:31.239
<v Speaker 1>since you know, I heard it. It comes, It can

830
00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:33.599
<v Speaker 1>come and go from time to time, or it'll never

831
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<v Speaker 1>happen again. So I don't know.

832
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:38.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and when it does happen, you're usually not prepared

833
00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:39.159
<v Speaker 3>for it.

834
00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:42.840
<v Speaker 1>No, it doesn't sound like it. That's that's been the experience.

835
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:45.320
<v Speaker 1>It's like, okay, yeah, just sort of comes out of

836
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:47.719
<v Speaker 1>the blue. There's no rhyme or reason on you know

837
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:50.800
<v Speaker 1>when or why or you know what's happening. So yeah,

838
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:52.719
<v Speaker 1>I think it's the surprise that tends to get you

839
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:54.960
<v Speaker 1>as well. But yeah, I mean, wait, you know, just

840
00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:57.239
<v Speaker 1>opening up your eyes and seeing that there, I should

841
00:40:57.280 --> 00:40:59.519
<v Speaker 1>have jumped across the room, but for one reason another

842
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:01.639
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know. And I know that I've I've had

843
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:04.880
<v Speaker 1>several bouts of sleep paralysis, but I know that that's

844
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:07.880
<v Speaker 1>been sleep paralysis. I had that one time. The first

845
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:11.440
<v Speaker 1>time it happened, it was incredibly scary. I was in Boston,

846
00:41:11.559 --> 00:41:14.519
<v Speaker 1>sleeping in my apartment and I was on my back

847
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:17.559
<v Speaker 1>and I felt like something was just like literally pushing

848
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:20.079
<v Speaker 1>me down. I couldn't move anything. You know, my eyes

849
00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:22.559
<v Speaker 1>were open. I'm like looking around, I can see everything,

850
00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:25.679
<v Speaker 1>and you know, eventually I was able to move my

851
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:27.639
<v Speaker 1>pink and then, you know, I did some research on that.

852
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:29.599
<v Speaker 1>At first, I'm like, oh my god, what just happened?

853
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:33.360
<v Speaker 1>But it sounded like totally sounded like sleep paralysis. And

854
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:35.760
<v Speaker 1>then the second time I had it was when we

855
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:39.000
<v Speaker 1>were when I was in our house, one of our houses,

856
00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:42.440
<v Speaker 1>and I was I was downstairs in the family room.

857
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:46.079
<v Speaker 1>It was late night and I was watching TV and

858
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:49.280
<v Speaker 1>I was on my side on the couch and I

859
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:51.639
<v Speaker 1>just happened to open up my eyes and like I

860
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:56.119
<v Speaker 1>couldn't move anything. I was paralyzed. And I'm like, oh

861
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:59.800
<v Speaker 1>my god, this is I'm having sleep. I remember, I

862
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:03.400
<v Speaker 1>think I could see. I just couldn't move, and I'm

863
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:05.599
<v Speaker 1>sitting here looking around and I can actually I'm watching

864
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:08.239
<v Speaker 1>the TV even though I couldn't move, and I could

865
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:11.960
<v Speaker 1>hear myself snoring. I was actually I could hear myself snoring,

866
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:14.400
<v Speaker 1>so I knew I was actually asleep. And then I

867
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:17.519
<v Speaker 1>finally after a couple of minutes or so, I could finally,

868
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:20.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, I started focusing on, like on my pinky,

869
00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:22.119
<v Speaker 1>and I was able to start to move my pinky

870
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:24.360
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, and then you know, I started getting

871
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:26.440
<v Speaker 1>feeling in my hand and I started coming out of it,

872
00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:28.599
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, wow, that was that was really wild.

873
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:31.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's scary. The first time it happens to you

874
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:33.519
<v Speaker 3>is the worst because you don't you don't know what's

875
00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:36.920
<v Speaker 3>going on. Can be pretty crazy. And then later on, yeah,

876
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:39.880
<v Speaker 3>when it it happened to me several times over the years,

877
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:43.320
<v Speaker 3>and yeah, when it happens to you and you realize

878
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:47.360
<v Speaker 3>what's going on, you do try and move something like

879
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:49.119
<v Speaker 3>a like a I used to always move my finger,

880
00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:52.639
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, movie, try and move a little toe or something. Yeah, right,

881
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:53.880
<v Speaker 3>getting back to Norman again.

882
00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:54.679
<v Speaker 1>But it is crazy.

883
00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:58.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you see weird stuff. You hear things really Yeah,

884
00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:00.519
<v Speaker 3>I used to the first time it happened, and I

885
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:04.480
<v Speaker 3>was on my front and I could hear it sounded

886
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:07.320
<v Speaker 3>like you know those those nature programs where they put

887
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:11.239
<v Speaker 3>a camera down holes to see ants, Yeah, right, or

888
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:13.840
<v Speaker 3>termite or something that what it's that sound That's what

889
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:16.079
<v Speaker 3>I could hear around me. Oh wow, Yeah, it was

890
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:16.760
<v Speaker 3>pretty crazy.

891
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I didn't hear anything, I didn't see anything

892
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:22.320
<v Speaker 1>except for you know, the second time that I was snoring,

893
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:25.119
<v Speaker 1>But that was wild. But yeah, the first time was

894
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:28.239
<v Speaker 1>absolutely it was absolutely scary. Had no idea what was

895
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:30.039
<v Speaker 1>going on, never even knew that that had had you

896
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:31.800
<v Speaker 1>know what that was. It just felt like something was

897
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:34.719
<v Speaker 1>pinning me down and I couldn't move anything, but I

898
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:36.960
<v Speaker 1>can just move my eyes. At first, I don't know

899
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:40.360
<v Speaker 1>whether I thought I was like paralyzed, you know, And

900
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:43.199
<v Speaker 1>then of course then again at that point it's like, okay,

901
00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:46.199
<v Speaker 1>there's something on me that I can't see, and then yeah,

902
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:47.960
<v Speaker 1>then it went through the whole thing. But then the

903
00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:50.320
<v Speaker 1>second time, yeah, it was definitely definitely easier.

904
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:53.400
<v Speaker 3>But the house shoe in now, is it an old one?

905
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:54.559
<v Speaker 3>Is it an old building?

906
00:43:55.079 --> 00:43:58.599
<v Speaker 1>No? Well, I mean old in comparison to like eighteen hundreds. No,

907
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:01.840
<v Speaker 1>our house was built nineteen in the nineteen nineties.

908
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:02.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I know that old.

909
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:05.840
<v Speaker 1>No it's no, Nope, it's not that old. Like I

910
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:07.599
<v Speaker 1>said that, there's no excellent you know. I mean, if

911
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:09.280
<v Speaker 1>it was older house, you know, then we start to

912
00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:12.599
<v Speaker 1>look into things and the history of it. But there

913
00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:14.719
<v Speaker 1>was only one family that lived in it before us,

914
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:17.119
<v Speaker 1>and we knew them and they moved out, so and

915
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:18.719
<v Speaker 1>they're not around, so I mean, I would have loved

916
00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:20.719
<v Speaker 1>to have asked them if you know, they've had any

917
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:23.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of experiences in it, even for the area that

918
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:27.639
<v Speaker 1>we're in. I haven't heard of anything, but maybe knowing

919
00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:29.960
<v Speaker 1>some of my friends, they probably wouldn't share much of

920
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:34.400
<v Speaker 1>anything anyway if something was going on. But you know,

921
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:37.119
<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard of anything in the neighborhood, like if

922
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:38.880
<v Speaker 1>there's something, you know, if it was built on something

923
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:42.480
<v Speaker 1>or you know, in Massachusetts, you just never know because

924
00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:44.280
<v Speaker 1>of the history of the history of it.

925
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:48.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, I know that unless you have a

926
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:51.440
<v Speaker 3>new build then chances are, you know, there's going to

927
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:53.960
<v Speaker 3>be someone that has passed away in your house. I know,

928
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:56.440
<v Speaker 3>someone sent me a link a while ago, and it

929
00:44:56.599 --> 00:44:59.519
<v Speaker 3>was it's a website basically, and you can check on

930
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:01.920
<v Speaker 3>your house to see, you know, if and how many

931
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:05.400
<v Speaker 3>people have actually passed away. In the proper tone, I

932
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:08.079
<v Speaker 3>think it's who died in my house or died in

933
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:10.480
<v Speaker 3>house dot com something like that, but yeah, you can

934
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:13.920
<v Speaker 3>you can check to see who left this mortal plane.

935
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:17.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, we knew that we knew the owners beforehand,

936
00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:19.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, because the house was built for them. So

937
00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:22.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean unless a builder died or something like that,

938
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:24.800
<v Speaker 1>but they would take the form of a kid or something.

939
00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:28.039
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea, but I definitely take a peek

940
00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:29.960
<v Speaker 1>at it, you know, and see because all the houses

941
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:33.079
<v Speaker 1>in our area are pretty much the same same age,

942
00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:34.559
<v Speaker 1>like mid nineteen nineties.

943
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:37.920
<v Speaker 3>But then you've also got when they build, when they

944
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:40.320
<v Speaker 3>have a new build and they build on certain lands

945
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:42.440
<v Speaker 3>and stuff, you never know is something that had ever

946
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:45.239
<v Speaker 3>happened around there, whether there's been a if it was

947
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:47.440
<v Speaker 3>a civil war area and it might have been a battle,

948
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:49.760
<v Speaker 3>or some of them might passed away on the land

949
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:52.880
<v Speaker 3>for whatever reason. They could just be hanging around that way.

950
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's definitely true. Absolutely. I'd like to you know,

951
00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:59.679
<v Speaker 1>look up, you know, find I find the website about

952
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:02.559
<v Speaker 1>the history of where we live, so you know, maybe

953
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:04.480
<v Speaker 1>that that'll shed some light on some things.

954
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:08.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, well, Lee, certainly let us know if you

955
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:11.199
<v Speaker 3>have any more things that go bump in the night.

956
00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Thank you so much, appreciate the opportunity to share

957
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:19.400
<v Speaker 1>these experiences with you and your listeners, And I'll work

958
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:22.880
<v Speaker 1>on getting that video up for you. And your listeners

959
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:24.280
<v Speaker 1>if they want to take a peek at it.

960
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Great stuff, yeah, and I'll put that on the website.

961
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:29.360
<v Speaker 1>All right, Leady, it's good. I appreciate it, and it

962
00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:30.599
<v Speaker 1>was great to meet you. Nick.

963
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:33.239
<v Speaker 3>It's good to meet you too, Lee. I really appreciate

964
00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:35.920
<v Speaker 3>you coming on sharing that for our listeners. Keep in

965
00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:38.159
<v Speaker 3>contact all right, and enjoy your.

966
00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Day, sir, well do thank you as well.

967
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:42.159
<v Speaker 3>Good take care for Nolie you as well.

968
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:43.199
<v Speaker 1>Well.

969
00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:46.519
<v Speaker 3>That's all for this episode. Keep updated and connected with

970
00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:49.679
<v Speaker 3>the show on x Facebook and Instagram. And if you

971
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:51.360
<v Speaker 3>have had an encounter that you would like to share

972
00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:55.360
<v Speaker 3>on the podcast, you can email me at UFO Chronicles

973
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:58.519
<v Speaker 3>at gmail dot com, or you can reach out to

974
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:02.280
<v Speaker 3>me via the contact page on my website ufo Chronicles

975
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:05.920
<v Speaker 3>podcast dot com. A big thank you Eli for sharing tonight,

976
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:09.119
<v Speaker 3>and thank you all for listening. I will be back

977
00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:13.920
<v Speaker 3>next week. Until then, stay safe, keep watching the Skies.

978
00:47:15.039 --> 00:48:13.199
<v Speaker 3>Goodbye in the least