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Speaker 3: Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. I hope you
Speaker 3: are doing well this week. I'm Nick Hunter and this
Speaker 3: is the UFO Chronicles podcast. Tonight, we're in Massachusetts to
Speaker 3: meet Lee as he shares more personal and family experiences
Speaker 3: that date back to his teen years, disembodied voices, dark shadows,
Speaker 3: his dog, barking at strange orbs in the house, and
Speaker 3: other things that go bump in the night. Lee is
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Speaker 1: Good morning, Ben, Thank you, thank you for having me.
Speaker 3: Good morning to you. It is great to have you
Speaker 3: joined us today, and you'll call in from the state
Speaker 3: of Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, Lee, you have multiple paranormal experiences going back
Speaker 3: to your teen years. Would you be so kind as
Speaker 3: to start at the beginning, Please.
Speaker 1: Sir, So some of my experiences date back to the
Speaker 1: eighties when I was living in Connecticut as well as
Speaker 1: having some experiences that I wanted to share. I want
Speaker 1: to share my experience with you and your listeners. It
Speaker 1: dates back into the nineteen eighties when I was a
Speaker 1: teenager and then moving on to when I was in college.
Speaker 1: I had a few experiences there as well as in Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: So I did have you know, I think I wanted
Speaker 1: to start, maybe start with the one when I saw
Speaker 1: you know, this day and age, we call them UAPs,
Speaker 1: I guess or UFO, but I did see something and
Speaker 1: I do not know what it was. So basically this
Speaker 1: was back around two thousand and three two thousand and four.
Speaker 1: I was working in Boston. So to preface this, I
Speaker 1: love it airplanes. I'm always looking up in the sky
Speaker 1: looking for airplanes. I have even applications to see what
Speaker 1: kind of plane it is that's going over my head.
Speaker 1: So where I was located in Boston, it was probably
Speaker 1: on a holiday. It was probably a holiday week because
Speaker 1: there was like really nobody in the office and it
Speaker 1: was very, very slow. So I just happened to be
Speaker 1: looking out the office window and when I'm looking out
Speaker 1: the office window. You can actually see the pattern of
Speaker 1: airplanes coming into Logan. All right, so there's a downwind,
Speaker 1: a base, and then there's a final So there was
Speaker 1: there was a cloud layer. I can't exactly tell you
Speaker 1: how many feet it was, but you can actually see
Speaker 1: the airplanes going the downwind on one of the runways
Speaker 1: and actually coming out of the clouds. So I thought
Speaker 1: that was really wild to watch. So it was constantly
Speaker 1: watching these come in and then they go farther out,
Speaker 1: they go behind some buildings, and then when you see
Speaker 1: them it comes back. It's coming. It's going to be landing.
Speaker 1: So it's on the final approach from there. So I
Speaker 1: watched about two or three of those planes and I
Speaker 1: see this this little black dot way far out, and
Speaker 1: I'm like going, huh. You know, I'm considering where the
Speaker 1: pattern is for these airplanes. I'm like that that doesn't
Speaker 1: look right, like why would something be right there? And
Speaker 1: so you know, it's not really moving, or at least
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was because it was far away.
Speaker 1: And you know, as I start see I could start
Speaker 1: to actually see it moving and it's and it's going
Speaker 1: slow and it's moving across the pattern, so I actually
Speaker 1: see it go near an airplane. Okay, with the airplane
Speaker 1: was coming out of the clouds and it came I'm
Speaker 1: sitting here watching him going, you know, is that a helicopter.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what kind of jerk would be doing that
Speaker 1: with a helicopter? What kind of you know, approval from
Speaker 1: air traffic control would allow these people to do this.
Speaker 1: And again, this is before drones and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: or at least what we knew of drones, and so
Speaker 1: this is coming by and so I'm like, okay, maybe
Speaker 1: that really is getting closer. And then when I saw
Speaker 1: the plane, that same plane come for its final approach,
Speaker 1: it was in between where it was when it was
Speaker 1: coming down when and final approach, and so the black
Speaker 1: dots getting bigger. I'm like, oh my god, you know
Speaker 1: this this helicopter is going to get hit. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well, maybe you know, it doesn't look
Speaker 1: like a helicopter because it was that that was that
Speaker 1: closer at this time. And then another airplane came down
Speaker 1: and by the time it was on its final it
Speaker 1: was even closer to me. It was between me and
Speaker 1: the airplane, and it was this black dot or black Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was basically, and I'm like, go, okay, maybe that's
Speaker 1: just like a bunch of balloons that's going. And then
Speaker 1: I'm watching it. I'm watching the way that the clouds
Speaker 1: are going, and I'm like, well, if those were balloons,
Speaker 1: it would be following the clouds. And it's coming across okay,
Speaker 1: and so I'm like, oh, please please just get closer
Speaker 1: to me so I can see what you are. I'm
Speaker 1: just please, please, please get closer. And it's actually getting
Speaker 1: closer and closer to me. So by the time it
Speaker 1: got as close as it did to me, I'm like
Speaker 1: it it looked like a black circle. Okay, nothing exciting,
Speaker 1: no lights on it, no nothing. And so I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, what is that? And so it's like literally
Speaker 1: right at the cloud line, and so it's sort of
Speaker 1: like going in and out of the clouds, so like
Speaker 1: it's a straight cloud layer, so it's not broken layer,
Speaker 1: straight layer. So it's like right at the edge. And
Speaker 1: so I'm sort of, you know, it was almost over
Speaker 1: the building, but so I'm like cranking my head and
Speaker 1: neck to see where it is, and it literally stops
Speaker 1: and it's just sitting there and sat there for like
Speaker 1: two or three minutes. I'm like, how could that be balloons?
Speaker 1: Even if it was balloons, it'd be going in a
Speaker 1: different direction. So I'm sitting there watching it, and next
Speaker 1: thing I know, it starts to back up from which
Speaker 1: way it came. And so it literally backs up all
Speaker 1: the way across the flight pattern again and disappears like
Speaker 1: towards Cape Cod. I mean, I know that's not crazy exciting,
Speaker 1: but I do not know what that what that was again,
Speaker 1: if it was balloons, it definitely was not a helicopter.
Speaker 1: It was not some sort of airplane. It was a
Speaker 1: round circle, you know, it wasn't huge again, no lights,
Speaker 1: no nothing on it. And I've been you know, I've
Speaker 1: actually looked at on UFO, you know recordings where people
Speaker 1: actually record experiences and things like that. You know, there
Speaker 1: were so many in two thousand and three, two thousand
Speaker 1: and four that I couldn't actually find one that was
Speaker 1: actually you know, the one that I saw or see
Speaker 1: if anybody, you know, could coroborate my experience. So but
Speaker 1: that was that's the one that I actually had with
Speaker 1: something that was flying that I just could not figure
Speaker 1: out or understand. I've told a couple of people about it.
Speaker 1: Of course, you know, if you're like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: probably a bunch of balloons, I'm like, well, balloons just
Speaker 1: don't go backwards in this wind, didn't change direction or
Speaker 1: anything like that. So I have no idea what it was.
Speaker 1: So that's where I get into that particular experience when
Speaker 1: it comes to, you know, the paranormal stuff or what
Speaker 1: we think is paranormal. Again, all of these things, well
Speaker 1: most of these experiences happened either in Connecticut, New York,
Speaker 1: or Massachusetts. Basically what most of these things, especially at
Speaker 1: the beginning, I tried to tried to have an explanation
Speaker 1: for it. I really it's not that I didn't believe it,
Speaker 1: but I just didn't think anything would happen to me
Speaker 1: or you know, people say the sea ghosts and things
Speaker 1: like that. So the first thing that happened to me,
Speaker 1: so where I wasn't where I was brought up in Connecticut.
Speaker 1: We had a nicer size house, It's a nicer size colonial,
Speaker 1: and we had probably about two to three hundred feet
Speaker 1: of woods behind us, and behind that there was a cemetery.
Speaker 1: It's a nice cemetery. It's not one with like old
Speaker 1: gravestones or anything like that. Actually, if you had looked
Speaker 1: straight at it, you wouldn't even know his gravesite. These
Speaker 1: gravestones are actually set into the grass flat, so if
Speaker 1: you were to look at it straight through, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: even see any gravestones or anything like that. So either
Speaker 1: which way, when I was younger, it still spooked me
Speaker 1: out when we first moved in there. So the first
Speaker 1: thing that happened was, and this happened a couple of
Speaker 1: times throughout, you know, throughout a year or so, is
Speaker 1: that I would hear my name. So I'd sit in
Speaker 1: my room and I was reading the book or doing something,
Speaker 1: and I could have sworn I heard my mother calling me,
Speaker 1: and so you know, I scream out, I'm like what
Speaker 1: you know? In their bedroom. It sounded like it was
Speaker 1: coming from their bedroom, which is right down the hallway.
Speaker 1: So I'm like what you know? And so I would
Speaker 1: get up, I'd run over to the room and there's
Speaker 1: nobody in the room. I'm like, wow, that okay, I'm
Speaker 1: just hearing things whatever. So it happened to me again
Speaker 1: not too long after that, and again this is probably
Speaker 1: when I was in high school, and so of course,
Speaker 1: again I'm like, what Mom, what and so they would
Speaker 1: call out two or three times, and so I went
Speaker 1: downstairs and where our family room is, if you call
Speaker 1: from one end of the room together, you have to
Speaker 1: really scream in order for somebody to hear you. So
Speaker 1: I went downstairs on my mother's under blanket doing, you know,
Speaker 1: reading a book or something like that in the family room,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, you were calling me. What's
Speaker 1: going on? She was like, I didn't call you. I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: that's weird. That's like the second or third time that
Speaker 1: had happened. So I'm like, okay, and you know it
Speaker 1: sort of shoeshoot. I'm like, ah, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: just hearing things, you know. I was in the middle
Speaker 1: of something. I thought I heard something. Maybe it's just
Speaker 1: the wind. So I ended up at that point in time,
Speaker 1: we didn't have the Internet or anything like that. I
Speaker 1: just got really interested. I'm like, you know, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you know, am I am I becoming schizophrenic or something happening?
Speaker 1: You know, I might have some kind of something, you know,
Speaker 1: some kind of illness going on. So I looked it
Speaker 1: up and I had these dictionaries, these old encyclopedias, and
Speaker 1: I think it was like auditory hallucinations or something like like,
Speaker 1: oh you know, maybe I've got auditory hallucinations. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know you could. You can get them when you're tired,
Speaker 1: or you can have a serious mental owns. So kept
Speaker 1: tabs on that, and then my brother about I don't know,
Speaker 1: some months or a year later, I think it was.
Speaker 1: His room was situated right next to mine, and I
Speaker 1: was in my room. He was in his room. He
Speaker 1: was back from school. He's he's younger than I am,
Speaker 1: and he had said all of a sudden, I hear
Speaker 1: him go what And I was like, that's weird. I
Speaker 1: didn't hear anything and to hear what, And so he's
Speaker 1: he comes into my room. He's like, what did mom want?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what do you mean? What did mom want?
Speaker 1: She's like she was just calling me and I said
Speaker 1: Mom's not even home. He goes, are you serious? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, has this happened to you? Before he
Speaker 1: goes yeah. A couple of times I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: yeah it's happened to me too. He's like, that's really freaky. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe you know, maybe the wind, you know. So we're
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's going on. And so then
Speaker 1: you know, another couple of months later or so. Actually,
Speaker 1: maybe this was after when I had just gotten back
Speaker 1: from school and I was working, and we have in
Speaker 1: our basement, we have a we made a workout area
Speaker 1: so we would lift weights and things like that. And
Speaker 1: so I was coming home from work and I was
Speaker 1: I had the keys and I was trying to get in,
Speaker 1: and we have a little dog. But you know, if
Speaker 1: anything was happening, you know, we if we had heard
Speaker 1: footstep or why, we figured it was our little dog
Speaker 1: or whatever. So I open up the door and my
Speaker 1: brother is there with a bat Oh my god, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? And he's like, did you just get home? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I just got home. He's like, oh my god, I've
Speaker 1: been downstairs in the basement working out and all I've
Speaker 1: been hearing is footsteps going back and forth upstairs, you know.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you sure it wasn't the dog. He's like,
Speaker 1: that was definitely not the dog. Our dog's like was
Speaker 1: like eight pounds. There was somebody literally walking back and
Speaker 1: forth upstairs in the kitchen to the family room whatever.
Speaker 1: I was too afraid to come up, and so I'm
Speaker 1: like oh well, okay, so what do we do? And
Speaker 1: so that really freaked us out. Couldn't explain that, you know,
Speaker 1: so we figured there's something going on. And then actually,
Speaker 1: if I back up, so I need to back up
Speaker 1: just a little bit. The other thing that that had
Speaker 1: happened over some months, maybe a year or something like that.
Speaker 1: But even before that, what happened was is I was
Speaker 1: playing soccer for our high school and we were doing
Speaker 1: what our call it double sessions. So you work out,
Speaker 1: you know, you'd play in the morning and then you know,
Speaker 1: you're training in the afternoon too. So what they used
Speaker 1: to do is that was back in the day when
Speaker 1: they would actually there was hazing, okay. And what they
Speaker 1: would line they would line us up against the wall,
Speaker 1: this brick wall in that on the on the high
Speaker 1: school and we used to be called family food time.
Speaker 1: And what they would do is they had a big,
Speaker 1: big cooler of fruit like plums, peaches, oranges, apples, whatever.
Speaker 1: And what they would do is they would line us,
Speaker 1: line the new kids up on the on the wall,
Speaker 1: and they would throw the plums and peaches and everything.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't hit us with them, but what they would
Speaker 1: do is they would blow it. You know, they would
Speaker 1: hit the wall and they were all the juices and
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and all the pieces of fruit would
Speaker 1: fall on us. So we would have to work out
Speaker 1: all sticky and sweaty. You know, bees would come around,
Speaker 1: and so that had happened to us. One day we
Speaker 1: were sent home before our second practice. So I decided,
Speaker 1: you know, I was a little sore from the practices before,
Speaker 1: so I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna just shower
Speaker 1: off and take a bath before I go to the
Speaker 1: second one. So get the water into, you know, take
Speaker 1: a shower, scrub off, get into the bathtub. And so
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting there waiting, you know, just in there,
Speaker 1: just just chilling out, and all of a sudden, I
Speaker 1: hear water, the water going, and I'm like looking at
Speaker 1: the faucet, I'm like, that's weird. Where's that water coming from.
Speaker 1: And we had dual sinks across from where the bath
Speaker 1: and shower is, and the water is turned on full,
Speaker 1: you know, so something had turned on the water. So
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there just watching it, and I'm still getting
Speaker 1: goosebumps because that really freaked me out. I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, that is so weird. And so after I
Speaker 1: started to really think about what's going on, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: my god. And I jumped out of the tub, threw
Speaker 1: on a towel, and ran downstairs and I'm like, mom,
Speaker 1: you know, my god. So the fauce had just turned on.
Speaker 1: She's like, well, maybe you kicked it with your foot
Speaker 1: or something like that. I'm like, no, no, this is
Speaker 1: I was in the tub. The faucet in the sink
Speaker 1: turned on, and we have those where, you know, she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's just She's like, it's probably just
Speaker 1: the water pressure or something like that. Like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like fifteen or sixteen. I've never seen that something
Speaker 1: like that ever happened. Plus it's you know, it's not
Speaker 1: like a pulley, it's it was a it's a knob
Speaker 1: to turn the water on and off. So you know,
Speaker 1: so she sort of was like, you know, pooh pooing it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I wouldn't even go back upstairs. And
Speaker 1: I don't actually I don't remember if I went back
Speaker 1: upstairs to turn it off. I must have. But so
Speaker 1: there was that, and then this was probably another experience.
Speaker 1: There was the This was probably when I was just
Speaker 1: out of college, and so we had to set the
Speaker 1: scene our family room. It's a larger family room. In
Speaker 1: the back, we have a in the back of the house,
Speaker 1: we have a big sliding glass door with curtains, and
Speaker 1: then you know, then in the middle we have like
Speaker 1: an L shaped couch and we have a big screen
Speaker 1: TV to the right or a bigger screen TV back
Speaker 1: then like towards the front front of the family room,
Speaker 1: and then there's a big bay window. So just because
Speaker 1: of the for one reason or another, I just always
Speaker 1: hate people. I hate to have the lights on in
Speaker 1: the house where people can look in at me when
Speaker 1: it's dark and I can't see what's going on outside,
Speaker 1: and especially with this graveyard out in the back and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I don't know. I was just always
Speaker 1: spooked out. So I'd always closed the curtains at night
Speaker 1: so that and I'd just start to watch TV. So
Speaker 1: my family's in bed and I'm watching TV, and so
Speaker 1: there's the glow of the TV in the room, so
Speaker 1: you can actually see the couch. I can see myself
Speaker 1: in the reflection of the big bay and I can
Speaker 1: see the curtains over the over the sliding glass door,
Speaker 1: and so I just happened to notice. So I'm watching
Speaker 1: the TV and if I just shifted to the you know,
Speaker 1: shift my view to the left, I'm looking at the
Speaker 1: bay window and I noticed something. It's like this dark,
Speaker 1: dark shadow and it was probably so before I can
Speaker 1: figure out how tall it was. I mean, if I'm
Speaker 1: going to tell you the experience, so I'm looking at it,
Speaker 1: I'm going, huh that, you know, I don't understand, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't understand what that is. And it was probably
Speaker 1: from the just to the top of the bay window
Speaker 1: to like the middle, and I'm like looking at it,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that is weird. I wonder what's you know,
Speaker 1: I wonder what that is outside? And it starts moving.
Speaker 1: So in the bay window, it's moving from the right
Speaker 1: to the left. So if you were looking at the
Speaker 1: back of that house, it was going from left to right.
Speaker 1: So I'm watching it, I'm going, oh my god, that
Speaker 1: it looked like I can't even say it was like
Speaker 1: a human shape. It was just sort of a thinner,
Speaker 1: shadowy type of thing. And I'm watching it. I'm going,
Speaker 1: that's not outside, that's inside, because I can actually see
Speaker 1: it going between the couch and the reflection in the window.
Speaker 1: I can see it going between the couch and the
Speaker 1: back the back curtains where that covered the sliding door,
Speaker 1: because I could actually see it because it was sort
Speaker 1: of opaque, right, I think that's the word. I couldn't
Speaker 1: see the drapes when it was going by the drapes,
Speaker 1: and so I'm getting goosebumps right now thinking about this still.
Speaker 1: And so it went from right to left and then
Speaker 1: it went out of the you couldn't see it in
Speaker 1: the reflection of the window anymore. And I sat there
Speaker 1: just terrified for like five minutes. I couldn't move, and
Speaker 1: I finally got the courage to get up and I
Speaker 1: ran upstairs. You know, I don't recall talking to my
Speaker 1: parents about it. I think I was just too scared
Speaker 1: or they would probably think that it was I was
Speaker 1: just seeing things. So I sort of kept that one
Speaker 1: to myself. So there was that one. So again, we
Speaker 1: mentioned this too after a little while. I think I
Speaker 1: don't know whether my brother had mentioned it to my parents,
Speaker 1: but just started to tell them about some of the
Speaker 1: things that were going on, you know, because we were
Speaker 1: a little bit older at this point, and they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, if there's something out there. Then there's something
Speaker 1: out there. So at that point we were like, Okay,
Speaker 1: they're not just trying to protect us as kids, like
Speaker 1: now you know what, we don't want you to be scared,
Speaker 1: and so they were starting to maybe take to consideration
Speaker 1: what we were actually letting them know. So there was
Speaker 1: that then. Actually, and I know I'm skipping around a
Speaker 1: little bit. Actually in college, there was just a couple
Speaker 1: of incidents which was a little weird. There was one time,
Speaker 1: or there actually was a couple of times where I
Speaker 1: was in my I was in my bed in my
Speaker 1: dorm room and it was light out. I remember sort
Speaker 1: of sort of awake at that point. It was light out.
Speaker 1: I was probably gonna be getting ready to go to
Speaker 1: class or something like that. My roommate had already been gone,
Speaker 1: and I just feel like something's tugging on my sheets,
Speaker 1: you know, on my blanket and my sheets. You know.
Speaker 1: Probably I was just probably moving around a little bit,
Speaker 1: and then it started to go even more and I'm
Speaker 1: like one of my friends snuck into my room and
Speaker 1: is now messing with me to get me up. It
Speaker 1: was probably at the end of my bed, and so
Speaker 1: I'm like looking around so you know, I'm like, ah,
Speaker 1: I got so I jumped up. I'm like, gotcha, I
Speaker 1: told you, and there's nobody there. I'm like going, wow,
Speaker 1: that was a little weird. That happened to me a
Speaker 1: couple of times. And then another time, me and my
Speaker 1: friends before we were going out for the evening, one
Speaker 1: of my friends decided we were going to I was
Speaker 1: about five of us. We were going to use Auigi board.
Speaker 1: And I really never believed in the Ouigi board stuff.
Speaker 1: I still don't know any much about it. You know,
Speaker 1: I've heard the certain things like you're not supposed to play,
Speaker 1: you're inviting certain things in. But back then, as kids,
Speaker 1: it was no hold spark. So a couple of us
Speaker 1: had our fingers on it, and you know, we all
Speaker 1: promise not to push it or whatever, and you know,
Speaker 1: close your eyes, and so of course, me being in
Speaker 1: the skeptic, you know, I've got my eyes, you know,
Speaker 1: I've got my eyes half open, and you know, watching
Speaker 1: my friends, you know, and at least two of them,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that they were going to push it. So
Speaker 1: you know, it was moving around a little bit, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, somebody's pushing it, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, I hear I hear this. I hear this
Speaker 1: whistling and it was like a whistling to a tune,
Speaker 1: and I don't remember what the tune was, but it
Speaker 1: was coming from the hallway and I see my one
Speaker 1: of my friends all of a sudden, he just like
Speaker 1: looks up. And we actually had like a candle or
Speaker 1: something going, and he just looks up and the expression
Speaker 1: on his face, you know, I because of the lightning,
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell whether he's wide or not, but the
Speaker 1: expression on his face was like it wasn't he was
Speaker 1: scared or whatever, just surprised. And he just starts crying,
Speaker 1: you know. I'm like, hey, what's going on? And he's like,
Speaker 1: did you hear that? I'm like, what did you hear?
Speaker 1: He goes the whistling. Yeah, I heard the whistling to
Speaker 1: that tune, and some of our other friends didn't hear it.
Speaker 1: He's like, that's what my grandfather used to whistle to me.
Speaker 1: So we go running out of the room and there's
Speaker 1: nobody in the hallway. So there's the hallways sort of
Speaker 1: like a circle, and so we ran around the hallway.
Speaker 1: There's nobody there, and so he freaks out. He runs
Speaker 1: out of that, He runs out of the room and
Speaker 1: goes back to his dorm or whatever. And so, you know,
Speaker 1: of course, my friends type of friends that I have,
Speaker 1: you know, of course we're going to start to make
Speaker 1: fun of each other. So my friend, one of my friends,
Speaker 1: takes and I don't know why, he said, this is
Speaker 1: the weirdest thing. But back in the day, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know whether it was the seventies, it's it
Speaker 1: was like the lego Maniac. I guess it's for legos
Speaker 1: or whatever. It was. For one reason or another, my
Speaker 1: friend grabs the Ouiji board and start, you know, we
Speaker 1: were gonna put it away, and he starts to shake it.
Speaker 1: He goes, ooh, it's Zach the lego Maniac again. Why
Speaker 1: he said something like that, I have no idea, And
Speaker 1: so we're all goofing around and I go back to
Speaker 1: my dorm, you know, to go grab some things before
Speaker 1: we head out. And we had this like little black
Speaker 1: and white TV. And it happens, it happened to be
Speaker 1: on at that point. We probably just forgot to turn
Speaker 1: it off. And next thing you know, I'm sitting here
Speaker 1: getting something out of drawer and there's a drummer on
Speaker 1: the on the TV right, I guess it was some
Speaker 1: kind of video channel or whatever it was. And all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it starts flashing in big white letters.
Speaker 1: It starts slashing z AK and it slashed it like
Speaker 1: three or four times, and that, you know, again coincidence
Speaker 1: or whatever, but that freaked me out. I went running
Speaker 1: out of the room screaming to my buddies, I'm like
Speaker 1: to see this. But of course by that time it
Speaker 1: was over. And you know, of course, at that point
Speaker 1: I was pretty much the laughing stock of the of
Speaker 1: the evening or the teas of the evening, because I
Speaker 1: saw that they probably shouldn't have even shared it with him,
Speaker 1: now that I come to think of it. And then
Speaker 1: let's see here, So now if we moved to our
Speaker 1: turn place in Massachusetts. So these experiences, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you exactly how long it's been going on.
Speaker 1: It's been going on for some years. But you know,
Speaker 1: some things you're just like, ah, you know, it was
Speaker 1: the wind or you know, and I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: like creaking doors or you know, creaking stairs or things
Speaker 1: like that. There's some of the easier things that you know,
Speaker 1: I was always able to. I always thought I would
Speaker 1: be able to just explain away as like why did
Speaker 1: the TV just turn on by itself? And that happens
Speaker 1: a handful of times. It's like I would just say,
Speaker 1: somebody's got the same clicker, and even though our houses
Speaker 1: aren't that close, you know, maybe somebody's frequency was different.
Speaker 1: There's one time my wife and I were standing in
Speaker 1: the kitchen and we heard the garage. You know, there
Speaker 1: was a couple times when you hear the garage doors
Speaker 1: open and close, and you know, we're looking at each other.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, did the kids come home or whatever,
Speaker 1: And of course they weren't, and you know, that's just weird.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe somebody's got the same type of clicker,
Speaker 1: you know, the same type of frequency clicker, and that's
Speaker 1: what's happened. But then you know the stranger ones. You know,
Speaker 1: there was one time where we were in the kitchen
Speaker 1: and as we were looking at I forgot. We were
Speaker 1: looking at something on a document in the kitchen for
Speaker 1: one reason or another, and my wife is standing next
Speaker 1: to me and it felt like something again, I don't
Speaker 1: know what it was, something blue, something on my neck.
Speaker 1: It's like somebody, you know, just went to my neck,
Speaker 1: and you know, I just I was sort of like stunned.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a second. And my wife's looking at me.
Speaker 1: She's like, what happened. I'm like, you were I mean,
Speaker 1: we're just standing right there, right and she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like something just blew on my neck. And she's
Speaker 1: like what. I'm like, no, I'm not kidding. Something just
Speaker 1: bleuw on my neck. And she's like okay, and you know,
Speaker 1: and they were like okay. You know, we were looking
Speaker 1: at the vents in the ceiling and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: there's no way that that vent. If like you know,
Speaker 1: the air was coming through the vent, it would have
Speaker 1: blown from there. That just didn't make any sense. So again, eh,
Speaker 1: you know, you're you know, you're just dreaming something up
Speaker 1: or you know, I don't know what happened. So again
Speaker 1: another thing we were just sort of like, eh, not sure.
Speaker 1: The Actually this one wasn't too long ago. I was
Speaker 1: sleeping on my side and so I sleep on the
Speaker 1: side of the bed that I sleep on. I'm looking
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm facing on my left side, I'm
Speaker 1: facing the front of the house, which has two windows
Speaker 1: and so it was probably a probably five thirty in
Speaker 1: the morning, and I don't know what just caused me
Speaker 1: to open up my eyes, but I was literally in
Speaker 1: the middle of a dream and I just happened to
Speaker 1: open up my eyes. I'm on my side, and what
Speaker 1: I'm seeing is next to the bed is a kid, okay,
Speaker 1: or what looks like it, maybe six years old. But
Speaker 1: the thing is is I couldn't see the face, but
Speaker 1: I can see the hair, and the hair looked like
Speaker 1: back in the seventies, some of the kids would get
Speaker 1: a haircut where it was like sort of I don't
Speaker 1: know what it's called, like a bob or whatever, but
Speaker 1: their hair is a little bit longer, but it's straight.
Speaker 1: It's just like a like a really extended bowl cut,
Speaker 1: but it goes down to their neck or whatever. But
Speaker 1: couldn't really see the face, but I could see the shirt.
Speaker 1: And then really, because of where it was and where
Speaker 1: I was in the bed, I couldn't see anything below that.
Speaker 1: But as I'm sitting there looking at it, and for
Speaker 1: the life of me, I don't know why it was
Speaker 1: freaking out or scared or anything like that. I should
Speaker 1: have jumped right out of my bed. You know. At first,
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, am I dreaming And I'm like watching it,
Speaker 1: but it's starting to dissipate. It's starting to like disappear.
Speaker 1: And as it's disappearing, sort of like the head went first.
Speaker 1: But the shirt that whatever it was or what it
Speaker 1: looked like a shirt had on it had it was striped,
Speaker 1: and so with the darker stripes were dissipating not as
Speaker 1: fast as the brighter stripes. This was all within about
Speaker 1: five six, seven seconds or something like that. And so
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and but I couldn't really move. I'm
Speaker 1: just sort of sitting there watching it just disappear. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, you know, I'm really seeing this. And I'm
Speaker 1: awake because I remember because I was in such a dream,
Speaker 1: and I knew that if I was waking up, and
Speaker 1: I've had this before where I wake up and it's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is I'm still in a dream
Speaker 1: or whatever. This wasn't that, because I knew what I
Speaker 1: was dreaming of, and it had nothing to do with
Speaker 1: friends or kids or anything like that. And actually I
Speaker 1: think I had to do with like fighter jets or
Speaker 1: something like that. And so the thing finally disappears And
Speaker 1: the way that I would say that it looked like
Speaker 1: when things were disappearing is if you look at let's
Speaker 1: say a blind you know, if you have blinds over
Speaker 1: the over a window and night time or something like that,
Speaker 1: or it's like dark in the room and it's light outside,
Speaker 1: and you open up, let your eyes and you close
Speaker 1: them and you can actually the bright lines and the
Speaker 1: dark lines, and if you keep your eyes closed, it
Speaker 1: starts to it starts to you know, go away, starts
Speaker 1: to you know, fade sort of something like that. So
Speaker 1: that one, because I was like, that was serious, you know,
Speaker 1: And there are other things like I was either yeah,
Speaker 1: you know to my wife or not. You know, we
Speaker 1: woke up that morning and where at breakfast, I'm like,
Speaker 1: i'm gonna tell you something. You're you're gonna probably think
Speaker 1: I'm losing it, But this is what I saw. So
Speaker 1: she didn't. She didn't actually come up with excuses or
Speaker 1: shushu WHI. She's like, wow, that's that's pretty wild. You know,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything since. Actually, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I don't want to see anything like that again, if
Speaker 1: if I can help it. But again, it wasn't scary
Speaker 1: or anything like that. It just was sort of facing
Speaker 1: me and definitely spooky. Do you have an interest in
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Speaker 1: It's time. It is the x x X. The other
Speaker 1: one that we have which is definitely challenging to come
Speaker 1: up with an excuse for is we have a dog.
Speaker 1: This was a couple of years back and he was barking.
Speaker 1: This was in the evening time and he was barking
Speaker 1: in the hallway, not just like barking, but barking at
Speaker 1: it looked like he was barking at something. And Nick,
Speaker 1: this is the this is the video that I wanted
Speaker 1: to try and send you, but it's too big, So
Speaker 1: I'm trying to shrink it too, because it's really within
Speaker 1: the first like three or four seconds that you can
Speaker 1: actually see it. So I'm trying to shrink it down
Speaker 1: so that I can send it to you if you
Speaker 1: want to plan on posting something like this. But so
Speaker 1: it's bark and he'd been doing this for like a
Speaker 1: night or two, and we're like, okay, that's weird, you know.
Speaker 1: And so of course my wife and I like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, dogs are supposed to see things, and he's
Speaker 1: definitely barking at something, but we can't see it. There's
Speaker 1: no like shadows on the wall. There was no reflections,
Speaker 1: especially for where that is in the hallway. There's no
Speaker 1: reflections that would go like if a car was going
Speaker 1: by on the street. There would be no you know,
Speaker 1: lights going down that part of the hallway. So we
Speaker 1: decide this one night, we're like, okay, let's video, you know,
Speaker 1: record him. So my wife's recording. I'm on her phone
Speaker 1: and she's you know, you can hear going, what you know,
Speaker 1: what are you barking at? And like he's bouncing up
Speaker 1: and down and he's a small dog, he's barking and barking,
Speaker 1: and he's like you can see him, and like you
Speaker 1: can see him back away a little bit and then
Speaker 1: barks more. It goes towards the wall and it comes
Speaker 1: running down the hallway and we're like, wow, that was weird.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I don't see anything. So we're like
Speaker 1: we're reviewing the recording, and we're reviewing it. We're not
Speaker 1: seeing anything, and all of a sudden, you see this
Speaker 1: at the very beginning, you see this like little white
Speaker 1: speck on the wall, and you're like going, huh, that's
Speaker 1: a little weird. And but if you keep it going
Speaker 1: in regular mode, like if it's if you're just watching
Speaker 1: the recording, it's very very difficult to see if you
Speaker 1: can even see it at all, but you can see
Speaker 1: like the white mark move just a little bit, and
Speaker 1: you can actually see our dog sort of tracking it
Speaker 1: to a certain extent, but then he sort of seems
Speaker 1: to lose it, but then maybe picks it back up.
Speaker 1: But then when you if you do it in slow mode,
Speaker 1: like you can do it frame by frame, you can
Speaker 1: actually see this white dot go down the hall or
Speaker 1: down the wall, and then we have like an entrance
Speaker 1: way to our dining room and we have a little
Speaker 1: little gate there so that the dogs can't get in,
Speaker 1: and it actually goes across the gate, over the floor
Speaker 1: and then comes back up across the wall, and so
Speaker 1: and you can actually see that whole you can see
Speaker 1: the whole trail. And then what we did is is
Speaker 1: we zoomed into the wall and to just where that was,
Speaker 1: and you can actually you know, you press it on,
Speaker 1: you know, full just to watch watch it in real time.
Speaker 1: You can actually watch this grayish white object or whatever
Speaker 1: it is. You know, I think some people call it
Speaker 1: orbs or whatever, but you know, whenever I hear of orbs,
Speaker 1: it's like a really round thing. This wasn't as round.
Speaker 1: It's like almost like I don't I don't even know
Speaker 1: how to explain it. But it's whitish gray, and it's
Speaker 1: a if it was against the wall, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: the size of dime or whatever. But you can see it.
Speaker 1: You can actually or a penny, but you can actually
Speaker 1: see it go down the wall, go across the the gate,
Speaker 1: over the floor, and then come back all the way
Speaker 1: across the wall. And so you know, if it was
Speaker 1: a reflection, you would have lost it against the gate
Speaker 1: because it would have gone you would have seen the
Speaker 1: reflection of like let's lights or something like that. It
Speaker 1: would have been on the floor. This really went across
Speaker 1: the gate back and all the way back. We have
Speaker 1: no idea what that was, but we're thinking it was
Speaker 1: something like an ORB or something like that. You know,
Speaker 1: our dogs saw it. We can see it on the recording,
Speaker 1: and we've shown some friends and they're telling us that's
Speaker 1: definitely something like an ORB. So, you know, when it
Speaker 1: comes to trying to figure out explanations for everything else,
Speaker 1: you know, for most of it, who knows. But for
Speaker 1: that one, there is no explanation, and you know, whether
Speaker 1: it was an ORB or something else, or a ghost
Speaker 1: or I have absolutely no idea what that was. But
Speaker 1: I would like to get that over to you, Nick,
Speaker 1: so that you can actually see it. I think that's
Speaker 1: all I've got. Hopefully that's all I've got. You know,
Speaker 1: some of these things can get a little spooky for me,
Speaker 1: you know, or my wife, So hopefully, hopefully that would
Speaker 1: be it. But Nick, I think that's all I've got
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 3: Great stuffly, yes, spooky stuff's going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Again, I don't know what to
Speaker 1: make of these things or these experiences. But you know,
Speaker 1: listening to your podcast and hearing a lot of the
Speaker 1: similar experiences, sometimes you sort of forget what had happened
Speaker 1: in the past. So it's like, oh, you know, this
Speaker 1: new thing just happened, and as you start to work
Speaker 1: your way back. I think that's what sparked me to
Speaker 1: call in, you know, and reach out to you, just
Speaker 1: because of hearing what your other listeners have experienced. It
Speaker 1: sounded very similar. So there's got to be something going on.
Speaker 1: Just can't really explain it.
Speaker 3: Gotta be something going on. Indeed. Sure, yeah, we get
Speaker 3: that video sorted, and what I'll do is I'll put
Speaker 3: it down below on the website and people can go
Speaker 3: and check it out. The mysterious orb.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I'd love to hear what people think about
Speaker 1: that once. I Once I can compress it, Nick, I'll
Speaker 1: send it along to you so that you can post it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, I get a lot of orbs, and yeah,
Speaker 3: sure some of them can be dust particles and vibers
Speaker 3: and that kind of thing. But some, yeah, some of
Speaker 3: very strange and seem to have ah well excused a
Speaker 3: pun but a life of their own.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, this one. I don't know whether it reacted
Speaker 1: to the dog because of the way it went backwards.
Speaker 1: But even like if you'll watch the dog, he'll be
Speaker 1: looking towards it, but you don't know whether there's more
Speaker 1: to the orb that he's looking at and you're only
Speaker 1: seeing part of it or you know, but then you'll
Speaker 1: see him he'll track back to it. But or maybe
Speaker 1: the orbs reacting to the dog because it literally backtracks.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's another thing, isn't it when when the animals, when
Speaker 3: our pets react to things that go on in the house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it's every time now that because he
Speaker 1: was younger, I don't know whether this just really got
Speaker 1: him going. But yeah, he'll bark it like everything now
Speaker 1: or like if there's like a if there's a reflection
Speaker 1: on the ceiling now he'll start to freak out. And
Speaker 1: he'd never done that before this thing. So you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll leave that up to you and
Speaker 1: you know your listeners absolutely.
Speaker 3: I mean use, Yeah, you've had a lot of things
Speaker 3: go on over the years. I must admit when you
Speaker 3: were when you started off, when you were saying about
Speaker 3: the football and in the hazing session, I thought Okay,
Speaker 3: is this going to be like maybe a hazing session
Speaker 3: that went wrong? Oh no, the ghost of a previous student.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, if you if if it was and
Speaker 1: followed me home and say, hey, listen, you need to
Speaker 1: listen that this is going to happen again, you know.
Speaker 1: And why he would turn you know, or she or
Speaker 1: whatever it was turn the water on? I don't know why.
Speaker 1: That's another thing that sometimes, you know, you're wondering, is,
Speaker 1: you know, why would it do something like that? Does
Speaker 1: it just want you to know of its presence? Like,
Speaker 1: you know, why does it turn the TV on? Or
Speaker 1: why does it now We've never had like the lights
Speaker 1: flicker or anything like that, you know, but why would
Speaker 1: it do that? Or those are the kinds of questions
Speaker 1: that I just don't know how or why.
Speaker 3: You know, I've said this before. I think when we
Speaker 3: are visited some of them is very common is we
Speaker 3: will have dreams about past relatives, relatives that have already
Speaker 3: passed over. And I've always thought, well, maybe if they
Speaker 3: do come to us in our dreams, maybe that's possibly
Speaker 3: the easiest way for them to contact us instead of
Speaker 3: being able to move stuff. All right, So I think
Speaker 3: it's the same way when something spirits, maybe turn on
Speaker 3: the TV and flick the taps on and yeah, I
Speaker 3: used to have one of those old those taps silled
Speaker 3: for sits with a knob and they were quite hard
Speaker 3: to you know, just turn on by themselves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, that's uh. I mean, why some can
Speaker 1: or can't or why they want to. Are they just saying, hey,
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm here and this is the way
Speaker 1: that I can contact you, or they just want to
Speaker 1: try and freaky out a little bit, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean I don't know, not sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be that they just can't make their
Speaker 3: presence completely known. So sometimes I think it's just the
Speaker 3: easiest thing to knock around the house and that. But
Speaker 3: the mimicking of the voice, I mean that lasted for
Speaker 3: about a month where you were hearing your mother's you're
Speaker 3: never called in you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was actually that was probably over a couple
Speaker 1: of months, maybe a couple of months to six months
Speaker 1: or so.
Speaker 3: That's scary.
Speaker 1: That is.
Speaker 3: I've heard my my wife's voice called me several times
Speaker 3: over the years, and she's either been asleep or in
Speaker 3: some cases not even in the house. And that is
Speaker 3: a bit a bit free when the mimic of a
Speaker 3: voice starts to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely. That one definitely got me, and especially
Speaker 1: when my brother heard it because I could again, I
Speaker 1: would try and reason certain things into, you know, why
Speaker 1: that had happened or whatever. But when my brother, you know,
Speaker 1: when my brother, when my brother experienced it a couple
Speaker 1: of times, and I had never even mentioned it to him.
Speaker 1: And so when I had heard him screaming, what do
Speaker 1: you want? And like he comes into my room and says, hey,
Speaker 1: what does mom want? And I didn't hear it. I'm like,
Speaker 1: she's not even home. And you could see the look
Speaker 1: on his face, like what's going on? And so I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'll let you in. You know, I've been
Speaker 1: hearing that kind of stuff too, so don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on. Yeah, yeah, really interesting and wild stuff. Just
Speaker 1: don't know how to explain it.
Speaker 3: But well and also that child, that child ghost you
Speaker 3: saw you can even pinpoint the heck yeah.
Speaker 1: Cut, yeah, that was And I don't know why that
Speaker 1: one didn't freak me out. The most ones that freaked
Speaker 1: me out the most or got me the most nervous
Speaker 1: was the faucet, that black shape, that went behind the
Speaker 1: couch and getting my neck blown on. Those were definitely
Speaker 1: the ones that were more like what, oh my god.
Speaker 1: But yeah, for one reason or another and again that happened.
Speaker 1: I forgot exactly how long ago that went. But nothing
Speaker 1: since you know, I heard it. It comes, It can
Speaker 1: come and go from time to time, or it'll never
Speaker 1: happen again. So I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and when it does happen, you're usually not prepared
Speaker 3: for it.
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't sound like it. That's that's been the experience.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, yeah, just sort of comes out of
Speaker 1: the blue. There's no rhyme or reason on you know
Speaker 1: when or why or you know what's happening. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's the surprise that tends to get you
Speaker 1: as well. But yeah, I mean, wait, you know, just
Speaker 1: opening up your eyes and seeing that there, I should
Speaker 1: have jumped across the room, but for one reason another
Speaker 1: I didn't know. And I know that I've I've had
Speaker 1: several bouts of sleep paralysis, but I know that that's
Speaker 1: been sleep paralysis. I had that one time. The first
Speaker 1: time it happened, it was incredibly scary. I was in Boston,
Speaker 1: sleeping in my apartment and I was on my back
Speaker 1: and I felt like something was just like literally pushing
Speaker 1: me down. I couldn't move anything. You know, my eyes
Speaker 1: were open. I'm like looking around, I can see everything,
Speaker 1: and you know, eventually I was able to move my
Speaker 1: pink and then, you know, I did some research on that.
Speaker 1: At first, I'm like, oh my god, what just happened?
Speaker 1: But it sounded like totally sounded like sleep paralysis. And
Speaker 1: then the second time I had it was when we
Speaker 1: were when I was in our house, one of our houses,
Speaker 1: and I was I was downstairs in the family room.
Speaker 1: It was late night and I was watching TV and
Speaker 1: I was on my side on the couch and I
Speaker 1: just happened to open up my eyes and like I
Speaker 1: couldn't move anything. I was paralyzed. And I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, this is I'm having sleep. I remember, I
Speaker 1: think I could see. I just couldn't move, and I'm
Speaker 1: sitting here looking around and I can actually I'm watching
Speaker 1: the TV even though I couldn't move, and I could
Speaker 1: hear myself snoring. I was actually I could hear myself snoring,
Speaker 1: so I knew I was actually asleep. And then I
Speaker 1: finally after a couple of minutes or so, I could finally,
Speaker 1: you know, I started focusing on, like on my pinky,
Speaker 1: and I was able to start to move my pinky
Speaker 1: a little bit, and then you know, I started getting
Speaker 1: feeling in my hand and I started coming out of it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, that was that was really wild.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's scary. The first time it happens to you
Speaker 3: is the worst because you don't you don't know what's
Speaker 3: going on. Can be pretty crazy. And then later on, yeah,
Speaker 3: when it it happened to me several times over the years,
Speaker 3: and yeah, when it happens to you and you realize
Speaker 3: what's going on, you do try and move something like
Speaker 3: a like a I used to always move my finger,
Speaker 3: but yeah, movie, try and move a little toe or something. Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: getting back to Norman again.
Speaker 1: But it is crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you see weird stuff. You hear things really Yeah,
Speaker 3: I used to the first time it happened, and I
Speaker 3: was on my front and I could hear it sounded
Speaker 3: like you know those those nature programs where they put
Speaker 3: a camera down holes to see ants, Yeah, right, or
Speaker 3: termite or something that what it's that sound That's what
Speaker 3: I could hear around me. Oh wow, Yeah, it was
Speaker 3: pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I didn't hear anything, I didn't see anything
Speaker 1: except for you know, the second time that I was snoring,
Speaker 1: But that was wild. But yeah, the first time was
Speaker 1: absolutely it was absolutely scary. Had no idea what was
Speaker 1: going on, never even knew that that had had you
Speaker 1: know what that was. It just felt like something was
Speaker 1: pinning me down and I couldn't move anything, but I
Speaker 1: can just move my eyes. At first, I don't know
Speaker 1: whether I thought I was like paralyzed, you know, And
Speaker 1: then of course then again at that point it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: there's something on me that I can't see, and then yeah,
Speaker 1: then it went through the whole thing. But then the
Speaker 1: second time, yeah, it was definitely definitely easier.
Speaker 3: But the house shoe in now, is it an old one?
Speaker 3: Is it an old building?
Speaker 1: No? Well, I mean old in comparison to like eighteen hundreds. No,
Speaker 1: our house was built nineteen in the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know that old.
Speaker 1: No it's no, Nope, it's not that old. Like I
Speaker 1: said that, there's no excellent you know. I mean, if
Speaker 1: it was older house, you know, then we start to
Speaker 1: look into things and the history of it. But there
Speaker 1: was only one family that lived in it before us,
Speaker 1: and we knew them and they moved out, so and
Speaker 1: they're not around, so I mean, I would have loved
Speaker 1: to have asked them if you know, they've had any
Speaker 1: kind of experiences in it, even for the area that
Speaker 1: we're in. I haven't heard of anything, but maybe knowing
Speaker 1: some of my friends, they probably wouldn't share much of
Speaker 1: anything anyway if something was going on. But you know,
Speaker 1: I haven't heard of anything in the neighborhood, like if
Speaker 1: there's something, you know, if it was built on something
Speaker 1: or you know, in Massachusetts, you just never know because
Speaker 1: of the history of the history of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, I know that unless you have a
Speaker 3: new build then chances are, you know, there's going to
Speaker 3: be someone that has passed away in your house. I know,
Speaker 3: someone sent me a link a while ago, and it
Speaker 3: was it's a website basically, and you can check on
Speaker 3: your house to see, you know, if and how many
Speaker 3: people have actually passed away. In the proper tone, I
Speaker 3: think it's who died in my house or died in
Speaker 3: house dot com something like that, but yeah, you can
Speaker 3: you can check to see who left this mortal plane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we knew that we knew the owners beforehand,
Speaker 1: you know, because the house was built for them. So
Speaker 1: I mean unless a builder died or something like that,
Speaker 1: but they would take the form of a kid or something.
Speaker 1: I have no idea, but I definitely take a peek
Speaker 1: at it, you know, and see because all the houses
Speaker 1: in our area are pretty much the same same age,
Speaker 1: like mid nineteen nineties.
Speaker 3: But then you've also got when they build, when they
Speaker 3: have a new build and they build on certain lands
Speaker 3: and stuff, you never know is something that had ever
Speaker 3: happened around there, whether there's been a if it was
Speaker 3: a civil war area and it might have been a battle,
Speaker 3: or some of them might passed away on the land
Speaker 3: for whatever reason. They could just be hanging around that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely true. Absolutely. I'd like to you know,
Speaker 1: look up, you know, find I find the website about
Speaker 1: the history of where we live, so you know, maybe
Speaker 1: that that'll shed some light on some things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, well, Lee, certainly let us know if you
Speaker 3: have any more things that go bump in the night.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Thank you so much, appreciate the opportunity to share
Speaker 1: these experiences with you and your listeners, And I'll work
Speaker 1: on getting that video up for you. And your listeners
Speaker 1: if they want to take a peek at it.
Speaker 3: Great stuff, yeah, and I'll put that on the website.
Speaker 1: All right, Leady, it's good. I appreciate it, and it
Speaker 1: was great to meet you. Nick.
Speaker 3: It's good to meet you too, Lee. I really appreciate
Speaker 3: you coming on sharing that for our listeners. Keep in
Speaker 3: contact all right, and enjoy your.
Speaker 1: Day, sir, well do thank you as well.
Speaker 3: Good take care for Nolie you as well.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: That's all for this episode. Keep updated and connected with
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Speaker 3: have had an encounter that you would like to share
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Speaker 3: me via the contact page on my website ufo Chronicles
Speaker 3: podcast dot com. A big thank you Eli for sharing tonight,
Speaker 3: and thank you all for listening. I will be back
Speaker 3: next week. Until then, stay safe, keep watching the Skies.
Speaker 3: Goodbye in the least