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Speaker 3: any further ado, let's get to tonight's guest, Robert. How
Speaker 3: are you, sir.
Speaker 5: I'm doing great, George, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks so much for coming on this Saturday evening.
Speaker 3: Lots to talk about. And before we get into it,
Speaker 3: why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself to the audience.
Speaker 5: Sure. Well, I'm fifty five years old. I live in
Speaker 5: southern Middle Tennessee, have for many many years now. But
Speaker 5: before that, I was a I guess you would call
Speaker 5: a military brat. I was raised by father, who was
Speaker 5: a corman in the Navy and who met my mother,
Speaker 5: who was a wave in their military service. And we
Speaker 5: pretty much went to a different school every year after
Speaker 5: sometimes on coastal little towns. We lived in Hawaii for
Speaker 5: a bit, then moved to California in different places like
Speaker 5: Chula Vista, things like that, basically wherever there was a
Speaker 5: military base. And then when my dad re enlisted, he
Speaker 5: went into information technology in the Navy, and so when
Speaker 5: he got out of the service, most of what he
Speaker 5: did was computer stuff that was military based, and many
Speaker 5: of the newer guys who were doing programming and things
Speaker 5: like that didn't know Cobalt or some of the older
Speaker 5: computer languages. So my dad was always one getting a
Speaker 5: job at a military base, and anybody who knows how
Speaker 5: that works. Typically the contracts come up every two years
Speaker 5: and they rebid contracts, so anytime there was a contract,
Speaker 5: do if the company my father was looking for didn't
Speaker 5: get that contract while we were going to a new
Speaker 5: school system. So there was aspects of that I liked
Speaker 5: and the aspects that really sucked at times. As you
Speaker 5: can imagine, you sometimes you were in the new kid
Speaker 5: everybody hated, and sometimes you were the new kid that
Speaker 5: everybody was like, oh my gosh, a new kid. But
Speaker 5: the fact that even as a kid, I always believed
Speaker 5: that God existed and that it wasn't just any god,
Speaker 5: but the Christian God helped me through whether I had
Speaker 5: lots of friends or no friends at any particular school
Speaker 5: that I went to, and so that really helped me
Speaker 5: to cope. And so did music. Fell in love with music,
Speaker 5: and as a kid, sometimes to escape having, you know,
Speaker 5: a crappy school I was going to, I would engulf
Speaker 5: myself in reading, Like I remember watching that. I don't
Speaker 5: know if you've seen it, but that nineteen seventy six version.
Speaker 5: I think of The Hobbit. Oh yeah, ringcom Bass Junior,
Speaker 5: and there was you know, it was more of a
Speaker 5: musical than anything, and that was my I think I
Speaker 5: was eight years old, maybe seven or eight years old,
Speaker 5: But after that I was just enthralled with Tolkien and
Speaker 5: Lewis both and I remember, I know it's crazy, but
Speaker 5: even as a kid, I remember reading The Hobbit. My
Speaker 5: aunt got us set big it's probably collectors, I am now,
Speaker 5: but this big book with the illustrations from the movie
Speaker 5: in it, and it was a good sized book, and
Speaker 5: I remember reading that as a kid, and then moving
Speaker 5: on to the Fellowship, The Two Towers, all of that then,
Speaker 5: you know, I was such a nerd. I got into
Speaker 5: reading The Similarilli and the Unfinished Tale stuff all of that,
Speaker 5: and so I had I was. I've always just been
Speaker 5: fascinated by any good versus evil, any really good, rich
Speaker 5: in depth storytelling, which made me love scripture too, even
Speaker 5: though I know there's a difference between fiction and scripture obviously,
Speaker 5: but both are very rich tales with deep history and
Speaker 5: good storytelling. And oftentimes, as I know many of your
Speaker 5: listeners probably know, and you know, sometimes in a work
Speaker 5: of fiction, you can present a truth that is easier
Speaker 5: for people to receive and accept than if you're you know,
Speaker 5: giving it to somebody like it's out of a you know,
Speaker 5: a biology handbook or something. They're more likely to receive
Speaker 5: the truth even though it's in fiction form than they
Speaker 5: would be otherwise. And so, you know, my life was
Speaker 5: filled with moving around and being a military kind of family,
Speaker 5: and I remember really getting to a point where the
Speaker 5: world didn't seem like it should be around the time
Speaker 5: of the September eleventh attack and the towers coming down.
Speaker 5: It was kind of a it alllso seemed very strange
Speaker 5: to me, but I didn't pay super close attention to
Speaker 5: it right in that moment because I was working a
Speaker 5: lot and going through a divorce and a lot of
Speaker 5: other things. But I always stored that in the back
Speaker 5: of my head, in the back of my mind. And
Speaker 5: then I remember years later after just kind of touching
Speaker 5: on little things like that over time, you just sort
Speaker 5: of headline news things like Project Northwoods or you know,
Speaker 5: it was just more like a curious interest, and it
Speaker 5: was like, they need true awakening because I was so busy,
Speaker 5: pulled in so many different directions. But what really did
Speaker 5: it for me and really started the whole awakening aspect
Speaker 5: of it, if you want to call it, that was
Speaker 5: at some point my current wife. She's been She's great,
Speaker 5: She's always been edifying and building up and encouraging. And
Speaker 5: because of that, I had the confidence to look into
Speaker 5: finally writing my own book of fiction. I'd had in
Speaker 5: my mind since I was a kid, since reading Token,
Speaker 5: but mine dealt with the Antediluvian world. But I wanted
Speaker 5: to write it in a fictional way that presented the
Speaker 5: truths that really did occur in the anti Deluvian world,
Speaker 5: if that makes sense, while providing it, yes, in a
Speaker 5: fictional setting, but still using the real places and things
Speaker 5: of that nature. So I wanted to make sure that
Speaker 5: as I was writing that fiction that I studied diligently
Speaker 5: to get the lands right, the river's correct, all these
Speaker 5: different details, the names of fallen angels, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. Like, yes, it's a fictional world, but the
Speaker 5: more real you can make it, the more interesting the
Speaker 5: story is. Absolutely And so as I was studying that,
Speaker 5: I discovered the world isn't what I thought I was.
Speaker 5: It's very difficult to find out any information on the
Speaker 5: anti delivering world that's good and solid, at least, you know,
Speaker 5: five or six years ago when I was doing this,
Speaker 5: and this was just before twenty twenty, when all the
Speaker 5: fun stuff broke out, and so I remember trying to
Speaker 5: find as much as I could, and I came across
Speaker 5: all these crazy people I'd never heard of before. In
Speaker 5: normal Sunday school, where you're just taught headline Christianity, you know,
Speaker 5: you're not really given any of the details. They just
Speaker 5: kind of brush across the surface, and you really never
Speaker 5: get any super good death, you know. And so I
Speaker 5: remember the first person I came across was this quirky
Speaker 5: little character named Tray Smith. And I don't know if
Speaker 5: any if you've ever heard of Trey Smith, but he
Speaker 5: does a whole series of YouTube videos at a channel
Speaker 5: called God in a Nutshell. And anyway, I found some
Speaker 5: of his take on Vin's fascinating and he was one
Speaker 5: of the only people presenting me with interesting details out
Speaker 5: of the Book of Jashure and the Book of Jubileeze
Speaker 5: and some other extra biblical texts that I diverted but
Speaker 5: didn't really study. And from Tray Smith, I went into
Speaker 5: my wife and I because of what we were learning
Speaker 5: about the Netholon and the Watchers and the Book of
Speaker 5: Enoch and the Book of Giants and all these non
Speaker 5: canon intical books and some other things. We got into
Speaker 5: the Fall Brothers podcast, the Fourth Watch and Tom Horne
Speaker 5: and I believe they did a documentary called The Belly
Speaker 5: of the Beast, and you know, then I discovered all
Speaker 5: these crazy things about Francis Bacon America and how it
Speaker 5: was founded and how you know, yes, they wanted a
Speaker 5: nation with freedom of religion, but it wasn't really necessarily
Speaker 5: just for Christianity really, so that they could do what
Speaker 5: they wanted to do freely. Also, you know, sort of
Speaker 5: a tars and wheat thing, I guess. And then from
Speaker 5: that from those documentaries the Hollow Earth. I had never
Speaker 5: really heard of the Hollow Earth outside of watching that
Speaker 5: ridiculous movie from the seventies, Journey to the Center of
Speaker 5: the Earth, so you know, for they use iguanas for dinosaurs, right,
Speaker 5: And then from that our knowledge just expanded exponentially. In
Speaker 5: twenty twenty, and my wife and I were both still working.
Speaker 5: Is it okay to mention who we work for? Or
Speaker 5: should I not do that?
Speaker 3: That's completely update you, I mean, you don't have to.
Speaker 5: Well, we worked for a transportation company, so we were
Speaker 5: considered essential during the twenty twenty dilemma, and we had
Speaker 5: discussions about you know, I was like, okay, you know,
Speaker 5: what are we going to do because we're watching The
Speaker 5: first thing we saw was people dropping dead in China.
Speaker 5: You know that everybody remembers the videos and like that
Speaker 5: November December twenty nineteen to twenty twenty of all these
Speaker 5: you know, the videos coming out of China and they're like,
Speaker 5: what the hell is going on? You know, and so
Speaker 5: you know, we just kind of observed cautiously at first
Speaker 5: to see what was happening, and then it began to
Speaker 5: become obvious that all the wrong people politically were involved
Speaker 5: in pushing the narrative, and they were asking for the
Speaker 5: quirkiest and stupidest of things. And we were just like,
Speaker 5: this is craziness. What is going on with the country,
Speaker 5: And so many people were just willing to bend over
Speaker 5: and take it, like they just church is shutting down
Speaker 5: left and right. I couldn't believe how many just like
Speaker 5: it's okay for the strip club to be opened, because
Speaker 5: apparently they're definitely needed, But the church just down the
Speaker 5: street is you know, now, you guys can't meet, or
Speaker 5: if you do, you have to be ten thousand feet apart, right,
Speaker 5: I can't don't even look at each other or talk
Speaker 5: to each other or enjoy yourselves in any way, shape
Speaker 5: or form. And so you had all that going on,
Speaker 5: and then came the bizarreness of the injections. Like I
Speaker 5: remember the guy from I was at the mayor of
Speaker 5: New York. It was like smacking his lips and chopping
Speaker 5: on a burger and fries.
Speaker 3: I think New York City. You just that was That's
Speaker 3: when we were really entered bizarro world talking, you know,
Speaker 3: just eating a burger and fries, and say you can
Speaker 3: have this, just get vaccinated.
Speaker 5: It was. It was madness on a grand scale. And
Speaker 5: yet everybody just like went on like, oh, that's that's
Speaker 5: perfectly normal. It's just to continue doing what they tell us.
Speaker 5: And then it went from we'll give you this free
Speaker 5: burgern prize, and we'll give you this tickets to a game, this, that,
Speaker 5: and then when not enough of us complied, it was
Speaker 5: like this angry boyfriend or girlfriend that you didn't test
Speaker 5: back immediately, you know, suddenly they were getting angry with
Speaker 5: us and then telling us, well, you're going to lose
Speaker 5: your job, buddy. You don't. You don't do what we
Speaker 5: tell you, your job's over if you comply, or you're gone.
Speaker 5: And thank God, because my wife and I prayed about this,
Speaker 5: all we ever got was pestered by our senior management
Speaker 5: to wear masks, which none of us really properly complied with,
Speaker 5: because we couldn't our job in the transportation industry with
Speaker 5: what we were doing loading our trucks. You know, you
Speaker 5: couldn't function and do that kind of laborious work. Besides,
Speaker 5: we kind of argued with our senior managers saying, do
Speaker 5: you want us all to be out of work from
Speaker 5: bacterial pneumonia, because that's all this does, is causes bacterial
Speaker 5: pneumonia and it doesn't stop a virus. In fact, I
Speaker 5: told him one day, I said, if I came up
Speaker 5: to you as your neighbor and said, I want your
Speaker 5: mosquitos to not come over into my yard anymore, and
Speaker 5: I'm requiring you to put up a chain league fence
Speaker 5: to keep them out, to me, that was the equivalent
Speaker 5: of the mask wearing to stop a virus. You know,
Speaker 5: let's put up a chain leak vence that you can
Speaker 5: see us out. So we just we knew that that
Speaker 5: was absolute craziness. And then come to find out, you know,
Speaker 5: every one of us, including the truckers in Canada, we
Speaker 5: were all spot on. We were all right the entire time.
Speaker 5: The doctors, the remember the front line doctors, all of them,
Speaker 5: they were the platformed, they fired, they were treated like
Speaker 5: they were some sort of heroin addicts, ostracize. And then
Speaker 5: all the heroes you used to look up to, or
Speaker 5: your Hollywood people or whoever, we're all telling you that
Speaker 5: you deserved and die if you didn't get backed, or
Speaker 5: you don't deserve a trip to the er. Yep, I
Speaker 5: mean they all act like it never happened. But I'm
Speaker 5: never gonna forget. And part of the reason I don't
Speaker 5: want to forget is because there's never really been any
Speaker 5: accountability for it. None of them have ever really truly
Speaker 5: paid a price for it, other than their movie industry
Speaker 5: is tanking like a led Zeppelin.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you know what for people haven't heard it?
Speaker 3: Can we take thirty seconds and do you mind if
Speaker 3: I play that clipper you'll be able to hear it?
Speaker 3: Can I play this clip real quick?
Speaker 5: Is it the hamburger and fries?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, because it's insane. But if you haven't heard this,
Speaker 5: free fries when you get vaccinated. I got vaccinated. You're
Speaker 5: saying I could get this delicious fries like Matt.
Speaker 3: But there's also a burger element to this.
Speaker 5: Let me let me check with Bill meat hard. Is
Speaker 5: it too early in the day? Bird?
Speaker 3: That's how ridiculous it is. He's using a public platform
Speaker 3: to push this jab and it's just silly. You can
Speaker 3: get a free burger and listen. In Seattle there was
Speaker 3: free joints for jabs. There was all the kinds of
Speaker 3: things going on. By the way, if you don't know,
Speaker 3: build a Blasio's real name is Warren Wilhelm Junior and
Speaker 3: his family is CIA.
Speaker 5: That doesn't surprise me at all.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 5: In fact, that's that's part of my entire YouTube channel thing,
Speaker 5: is making the connection between all these people and how
Speaker 5: it goes all the way back to the pre flood world. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 5: but so you know part of that whole journey leading
Speaker 5: up to And I love this episode you did with
Speaker 5: the Ladder because it's exactly how it happens for most
Speaker 5: of us, you know SkyWatch TV, Tom Horne, ste Quell,
Speaker 5: l A. Mar Zouli, Gret Gilbert, Michael Heinzer, and then
Speaker 5: you recently, well I can't say recently to me recently
Speaker 5: because I'm only on episode eighty three or eighty four.
Speaker 5: You recently interviewed Gary Wayne. I have both of his
Speaker 5: books that are like, what five hundred thousand.
Speaker 3: Ka, It's incredible how much work. But you just released
Speaker 3: a second one, I think a few months ago, right
Speaker 3: back in the spring.
Speaker 5: Yes, and for those of you who are Christians listening,
Speaker 5: you can really get away with just getting the second book,
Speaker 5: and it's an easier read. The first book was made
Speaker 5: for a general audience, and don't get me wrong. It's
Speaker 5: still awesome, but I recommend getting that one as a
Speaker 5: digital copy from Amazon so you can like do keyword
Speaker 5: searches and such. But the second one is a much
Speaker 5: more readable, page turning type read. But they're both Gary
Speaker 5: Wayne to me reminds me of like, you know, a
Speaker 5: rail yard. Everything comes together in that one, like he
Speaker 5: takes all this data, all these data points. I mean
Speaker 5: all these data points. When I when I say all
Speaker 5: these data points, it's like that one guy in the
Speaker 5: that sitcom I can't remember the name of the sitcomedy.
Speaker 5: He orders bacon and eggs, all your bacon and eggs,
Speaker 5: and then he said, I mean when I think you mean,
Speaker 5: I think you think I mean some bacon, but I
Speaker 5: mean all of your bacon. I can't know. The actively
Speaker 5: is hilarious. So all these points and it's like this
Speaker 5: connecting train station puts it all together in such a
Speaker 5: way that is amazing. And if you don't have a
Speaker 5: copy of it, it's I think it should be required
Speaker 5: reading of anybody who's a Christian who wants to know
Speaker 5: what in the world has been going on since day
Speaker 5: one in the world and figure out what these characters
Speaker 5: are up to. It's I really feel like it's that important.
Speaker 3: And I'm glad you brought that up, Robert, because it's
Speaker 3: actually it's thirty percent off right now, so I'll make
Speaker 3: sure to put the link in the show notes. It's
Speaker 3: under ten bucks on candle, but right now you get
Speaker 3: the paper book for like twenty five bucks. And the
Speaker 3: bang for the buck is just unbelievable. It's a fantastic book,
Speaker 3: and he's a great guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he could easily be charging at least thirty to
Speaker 5: fifty bucks for that bang. It's huge. It's like, realistically,
Speaker 5: I think it's the first one's like nine hundred pages
Speaker 5: and the other one's like eight hundred something. Yep. It's
Speaker 5: still you're really getting a good band for the buck.
Speaker 5: And his stuff kind of led us into some other
Speaker 5: more fanciful stuff like Blurry Creatures podcast. And I know
Speaker 5: that sounds silly because they initially started with Bigfoot, but
Speaker 5: like they say in that podcast, it's like a what
Speaker 5: do they call it an introductory drug? A yeah, like
Speaker 5: marijuana to.
Speaker 3: And then you go to the next step and that
Speaker 3: step yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: So and then I listened to a lesser known one
Speaker 5: named Camp the Mom and got into Tim Albarina, and
Speaker 5: of course, like I said, Gary Wayne, and we just
Speaker 5: started studying all this stuff. And then one day because
Speaker 5: my wife she was really, I'm one of these people,
Speaker 5: and I don't know if you're this way, but I
Speaker 5: like to, like, like, of what I'm doing with your podcast,
Speaker 5: I'll start from the first episode and like listen to
Speaker 5: every fricking episode that I can, like all the way
Speaker 5: to getting current. I don't always necessarily do that, like
Speaker 5: I didn't do that with Blur Creatures because some of
Speaker 5: the some of the things I came across, I was like, ah,
Speaker 5: I'm just not interested in that, you know, or whatever.
Speaker 5: Although there have been times where I went ahead and
Speaker 5: listen to something I didn't think i'd be interested in,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, what the heck. I had no idea
Speaker 5: it was going to be that interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, flatter at the case in point right, Yes exactly.
Speaker 5: And that's where this leads to is because my wife
Speaker 5: she was always she would like it was like a
Speaker 5: sample platter. She would go to a podcast and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 5: that's cool, Oh that's cool. I kind of had the
Speaker 5: gist of this, and I have it down. I'm going
Speaker 5: to move on to this other cool thing that I'm
Speaker 5: really interested about. You know, she would and she figures
Speaker 5: things out like no other person I've seen. She could
Speaker 5: have been. She could have easily been a detective or
Speaker 5: really I think she missed her calling and wife and
Speaker 5: should have been somebody who goes into a business like
Speaker 5: Elon Musk, watches what's going on there, figures it out,
Speaker 5: and could have that business operating way more smoothly in
Speaker 5: just a matter of months by showing you what you're
Speaker 5: doing wrong or what you can be doing right and
Speaker 5: not be a Karen about it, you know. And so anyway,
Speaker 5: she came across of all things from hearing from some
Speaker 5: other people about flat Earth your podcast Flat Earth Files,
Speaker 5: and so she listened. She had a bunch of questions,
Speaker 5: and she was listening I think too, about the first
Speaker 5: month worth of episodes, and she just wasn't There was
Speaker 5: a couple of questions that weren't being answered there. So,
Speaker 5: but she had heard useful and information on your podcast
Speaker 5: about some other individuals that really cover some tough, detailed
Speaker 5: things on their podcast. And I don't exactly remember all
Speaker 5: of them, but I do remember at one point shortly
Speaker 5: after the Dean Odal debate. I don't know if you
Speaker 5: remember that where the other guy just went.
Speaker 3: Forward a half hours.
Speaker 5: I was like, I was embarrassed to be a Christian
Speaker 5: after that, you know, not because of Dean Odal, but
Speaker 5: because the other guy was such a douchebag about the
Speaker 5: whole thing. Yeah, well so anyway, it was okay so
Speaker 5: shortly after that. Because my wife doesn't typically share something,
Speaker 5: she's almost like a filter for me, you know, like
Speaker 5: to listen to something and if she feels like it's
Speaker 5: something worth passing on, I promise you it's worth passing on,
Speaker 5: because I remember one of the first thing she passed
Speaker 5: on to me was this podcast that had Alisi out
Speaker 5: of tom I don't know if you've ever heard of him.
Speaker 5: He's a guy from Iran or his family's from Iran.
Speaker 5: He's Persian, but he's freaking amazing. He's a genius and
Speaker 5: he's basically I made the same connections that Tim Alberino
Speaker 5: has between what's going on with this whole deception with
Speaker 5: interplanetary beings and aliens and UAPs and the Second Coming
Speaker 5: of Christ, and it connects all these dots of great detail.
Speaker 5: But she came to me with this flat earth stuff
Speaker 5: and said, Rob, you need to check out the slaughter
Speaker 5: earth stuff. I think there may be something to this.
Speaker 5: And so the first thing I did, of course, was
Speaker 5: I listened to the Dean Old debate. And I can't
Speaker 5: say that I was super influenced by that, you know what.
Speaker 5: To me, there was a whole lot. I mean, scripture
Speaker 5: is important, but because it bogged down into a debacle,
Speaker 5: I just I was like, I need to look for
Speaker 5: some other people or something, and so I kind of
Speaker 5: put it off for a while, but I started reading
Speaker 5: different things like and I can't remember the guy's name.
Speaker 5: One of the first people that came across as I
Speaker 5: was searching outside of your podcast was a guy on
Speaker 5: YouTube that does like twenty four to seven debates. Like
Speaker 5: his YouTube channel was just nothing but debating constantly. I
Speaker 5: don't know, and I think he's British and he can
Speaker 5: be kind of contankerous at times, but man, there was
Speaker 5: so much useful information if you can get me, all
Speaker 5: the cutting people off and stuff that I decided to
Speaker 5: really look into it. And so, you know, I started
Speaker 5: looking into it. And one of the first things that
Speaker 5: really caught like the hook in my jaw that made
Speaker 5: me want to investigate so much more was what I've
Speaker 5: heard a lot of people say, which is either their
Speaker 5: equation is completely wrong or the sort of flat because
Speaker 5: you can see too far, don't. I don't see how
Speaker 5: you could see it any other way. And so that
Speaker 5: that led me into searching for, you know, other things
Speaker 5: that I was trying to figure out, well, like well,
Speaker 5: what about the sun and the moon? And how does
Speaker 5: how does that work? And how does what are what
Speaker 5: are asteroids? What are meteorites? What are what are the
Speaker 5: planets really? And what are the stars? And as you
Speaker 5: as you look into it, you begin to discover things
Speaker 5: like NASA is a big croc as you pointed out repeatedly,
Speaker 5: and was founded pretty much by a bunch of Satanists
Speaker 5: for the most part, or you know, the people who
Speaker 5: are related to Blovotsky and Crowley. That whole scene in
Speaker 5: the mid to late eighteen hundreds all seemed to come
Speaker 5: together about the same time that the Rockefellers, as if
Speaker 5: they they all got into the same room and said, Okay,
Speaker 5: we need to come up with a plan to take
Speaker 5: over medicine, education and the narrative for what's going on
Speaker 5: in this world through evolution, a planetary system of global Earth,
Speaker 5: and all this other stuff. And because it all it
Speaker 5: all came about about the same time, and we use money,
Speaker 5: power and influence to basically wipe out her you know,
Speaker 5: old world medicine, so to speak, by making it look
Speaker 5: like witch doctor and quackery. And if you didn't go
Speaker 5: along with it, well you didn't get any funding from him,
Speaker 5: where you just basically got shut out. So it all
Speaker 5: just kind of died off and everybody was like, oh well,
Speaker 5: let's try you know this, all this petroleum based stuff.
Speaker 5: It's it's the new stuff, and it's great and it's awesome,
Speaker 5: and it's like it didn't matter that taking one pill
Speaker 5: to solve one problem caused five other problems in your
Speaker 5: body that they give you another pill for. It's like,
Speaker 5: how do you not how do you not see that?
Speaker 5: You know? And then you know, I never really realized
Speaker 5: it to you pointed it out that the globes really
Speaker 5: are if you go back, I don't remember what years
Speaker 5: it was, I want to say late forties, early fifties.
Speaker 3: Yes, certainly the fifties, absolutely, yeah, the.
Speaker 5: Globe starts to appear on every wall, every desk, everything,
Speaker 5: and I'm convinced, like you mentioned, I think in one
Speaker 5: of your earlier episodes that the War of the Worlds
Speaker 5: was totally legit, a test to see just how big
Speaker 5: of what we just just to see what they could
Speaker 5: jam down our throats after listening to their Project paper
Speaker 5: Clip guys. You know, hey, look, if you do this,
Speaker 5: you know you can have mass media hysteria. You can
Speaker 5: convince people through mass media just to think anything. If
Speaker 5: you just presented you know, well enough as a lie
Speaker 5: or whatever. The you know, these Americans will believe anything.
Speaker 5: And look here we are with CNN and Fox News.
Speaker 5: Now they dressed these CIA agents up well enough and
Speaker 5: make them speak well enough and interrupt the interviews, you
Speaker 5: know that start to tell the truth well enough or
Speaker 5: cut you off. You know, it's what they do, controlled opposition,
Speaker 5: the whole bit. It's it's pretty clear. Once you wake up,
Speaker 5: you begin to discern things you never really saw before.
Speaker 5: And now my wife and I can't even watch movies
Speaker 5: anymore without seeing like you know, the number thirty three
Speaker 5: on a mailbox, I mean you name it, or on
Speaker 5: a clock for crying outside eleven eleven, Oh look it's
Speaker 5: eleven eleven on the clock. How about that, and so
Speaker 5: you know, clearly numbers mean things to these people. And again,
Speaker 5: I think it's the interconnectivity between humanity and these rebellious
Speaker 5: angels that have been screwing with humanity ever since before
Speaker 5: the flood and anyway, so my book is kind of
Speaker 5: about that, and it really is just to take it
Speaker 5: back to you know, I've gone from how I got
Speaker 5: the flat Earth to going back to what started it,
Speaker 5: which was the research of my book. You know, it
Speaker 5: really was just a total An s type book where
Speaker 5: I've got a main character that's going to descend into
Speaker 5: the Earth to open the floodgates of the Earth as
Speaker 5: the main protagonist being stopped by of course nephel M, Fallen, rebelly,
Speaker 5: angels on all these different things. And I've got a
Speaker 5: host of characters, great dialogue, and I'll even after the
Speaker 5: interview through email off if you want, I can send
Speaker 5: you a couple of first two chapters for you to read.
Speaker 3: That'd be awesome. Thanks.
Speaker 5: Sure. And then of course I didn't mention this, but
Speaker 5: everybody in my family has served in the military, but me.
Speaker 5: I had a brother in the Air Force stationed at
Speaker 5: my not you know, babysitting missile silos, and then I
Speaker 5: had a brother that was going into pharmaceuticals in the Navy,
Speaker 5: and of course, you know, my dad was a qrman.
Speaker 5: My mom was away, but I was going to be
Speaker 5: a musician, a long haired, big haired eighties metal musician,
Speaker 5: you know. And it didn't pan out, And honestly, I'm
Speaker 5: kind of thankful that it didn't, because I look back
Speaker 5: at some of the people I was associated with and
Speaker 5: where it was headed, and it wasn't a good place,
Speaker 5: and I so much prefer I know some people don't
Speaker 5: like it, this whole generation of things that can help
Speaker 5: you produce music at home, because it makes it too easy,
Speaker 5: and I get that, but there's still some good quality
Speaker 5: stuff that you can put out there. And like, when
Speaker 5: you go to my YouTube channel, one of the first
Speaker 5: things that plays is my video with a song on
Speaker 5: it I think called the Veil of the Valley of
Speaker 5: the Shadow of Death. And I'm putting together that whole
Speaker 5: album of eleven songs that I'm going to call eleven
Speaker 5: Z East because I'm a TOTN fan and anyway, those
Speaker 5: eleven songs are all going to tell a similar story
Speaker 5: about a great wanderer or pilgrim that is witnessing the
Speaker 5: scent of chaos involving mankind that started from the pre
Speaker 5: flood world all the way to the end where we
Speaker 5: literally are so deceived that we wind up fighting against
Speaker 5: the return of Jesus coming back. Humanity literally fights against
Speaker 5: the outcoming back. It's just unbelievable. But while I say that,
Speaker 5: but that's the old me thinking it's unbelievable, I look
Speaker 5: at what I know now and I'm like, I already
Speaker 5: see it, you know. I see it when I'm researching
Speaker 5: for the videos I put out. I see people talking
Speaker 5: about Emerald tablets and on Lil being yahweh when he's
Speaker 5: clearly not, and you can see the narrative forming that
Speaker 5: they're basically going to say that God is just another
Speaker 5: invading alien that try to enslave humanity and keep them
Speaker 5: from knowing or being wise, you know, and eating from
Speaker 5: the fruit of the knowledge. You get it evil. But
Speaker 5: I would just say to those people, if you just
Speaker 5: stop and think about what you're really saying, you have God,
Speaker 5: who he's the maximumly greatest being, perfect in knowledge. He
Speaker 5: is the logic, the Word, He's everything perfect in all
Speaker 5: that he does. He knows the beginning from the end. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 5: so you eat from this tree that allows you to
Speaker 5: decide what is good and evil. Apart from that being,
Speaker 5: how is that advantageous? It seems like we have an
Speaker 5: entire history of almost six thousand years now that demonstrates
Speaker 5: clearly that was a huge mistake.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. And the other thing that doesn't get talked about
Speaker 3: enough is people aren't ready for the knowledge. And that
Speaker 3: goes to my awakening. I wasn't ready for this knowledge
Speaker 3: when I was twenty or even in my early thirties.
Speaker 3: You just can't have this incredible amount of knowledge bestowed
Speaker 3: upon you all at once. And that's also something we
Speaker 3: get flooded with emails. Explain this, Explain this, Explain this.
Speaker 3: I've said many times. I think it's kind of I
Speaker 3: don't know what the word is. But to be able
Speaker 3: to say that we can decipher everything God's created, I
Speaker 3: don't know. I mean some of the things I do
Speaker 3: believe we'll find you know, these mysteries, if you will,
Speaker 3: we'll find out when we enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
Speaker 3: But to just to be able to say we can
Speaker 3: decipher everything that God did, how he created it, I mean,
Speaker 3: he tells us the story you know what he did
Speaker 3: during those six days, and he rested on the seventh day,
Speaker 3: But to actually be able to say this is what,
Speaker 3: this is where it's at. We're just not meant to
Speaker 3: know every last thing, going back to the tree of knowledge.
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, and not just that, but you know, deciding
Speaker 5: for yourself outside of a of a God or maximally
Speaker 5: greatest being, whatever you want to call God, I see
Speaker 5: it from the Christian perspective. But if he's his moral
Speaker 5: law is perfect. So again, if you're deciding for yourself
Speaker 5: what is morally good and bad based off your own
Speaker 5: personal preference, it's clearly a problem some people, I mean,
Speaker 5: all you got to do look around at some people
Speaker 5: have decided that it's okay to steal from you, to
Speaker 5: kill you, to take your children. We have what three
Speaker 5: hundred something thousand missing children now from across the border
Speaker 5: was three hundred something thousand. So clearly Heleo or Lucifer
Speaker 5: is you know, the king of slanderers and a liar.
Speaker 5: And we fell for it. We fell for the idea
Speaker 5: that something was being kept from us. But all it's
Speaker 5: done has ultimately ruined us because we're deciding, each one
Speaker 5: of us our own object or subjective, real moral code
Speaker 5: outside of the prime objective moral code that he presented
Speaker 5: to us, which was very simple. I mean, it really
Speaker 5: boiled down to two commandments. Initially, right, love the Lord,
Speaker 5: your God, the pull of your heart's soul, strength and mind.
Speaker 5: And the second one is like it, love your neighbor
Speaker 5: like yourself. But no, we couldn't, we couldn't leave well
Speaker 5: enough alone, and we had to go you know, tip dancing,
Speaker 5: tap dancing with LGBTQ stuff and I'm a boy is
Speaker 5: to be a girl and all this insanity that seems
Speaker 5: to have taken a hold since twenty twenty, and maybe
Speaker 5: even before that. You know, the foundation was being set
Speaker 5: for it. But you can see the influence of these
Speaker 5: beings and every aspect of society going all the way back.
Speaker 5: And I'm convinced that part of the reason there is
Speaker 5: this successive line of the same thing being presented to
Speaker 5: humanity pretty much from day one, is that it's the
Speaker 5: same beings. I just did a video today uploading that
Speaker 5: concept where you know, we had these Have you ever
Speaker 5: seen the movie The Highland or I'm.
Speaker 3: Sure you have, yeah, yeah, from like nineteen ninety or so.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I mean It's one of my favorite movies
Speaker 5: of all time.
Speaker 3: It can only be one.
Speaker 5: Yes, they're gonna be only one. Yeah, But the idea
Speaker 5: there is you have these beings that live a long
Speaker 5: long time, and just as soon new ideas of these
Speaker 5: And I know this probably ranks up there with what
Speaker 5: people would think is insane, just like with the flat Earth.
Speaker 5: But I'm convinced that the whole reason there's a cohesiveness
Speaker 5: between all these things that seem disjointed. And you wonder
Speaker 5: why these leaders do what they do and how they
Speaker 5: manage to keep things secret or they do what they
Speaker 5: do behind closed doors, and they all seem to be
Speaker 5: in on things like the Antarctic you know, pact that
Speaker 5: they've all made. It is because it's all the same
Speaker 5: fallen rebellious angels and their cohorts, if you will, from
Speaker 5: the Antidiluvion age to today, still spurring things up, still
Speaker 5: messing with us, still trying to change us from being humans.
Speaker 5: Because I'm convinced one of the things they tried to
Speaker 5: do in the pre flood world, like Tim Alberino says,
Speaker 5: is to steal our birthright, like even when Jesus was
Speaker 5: presented the kingdoms of the world. I can't remember the
Speaker 5: exact way it's praised, but if you go look at
Speaker 5: it specifically, I think Lucier says, I prefer to call
Speaker 5: him Hilale because it's like he doesn't use the name anymore,
Speaker 5: and maybe it was his original name and he's cast
Speaker 5: it aside. And I see it as you know, calling
Speaker 5: him by his proper name, even if he doesn't like it.
Speaker 5: But so Helale offers him the kingdoms of the world.
Speaker 5: But I'm pretty sure the way he phrases it, and
Speaker 5: I don't have my notes in front of me because
Speaker 5: I wanted to wean this, but I think he says,
Speaker 5: it's been given unto me to give these things to you,
Speaker 5: the world to you. And so I remember when I
Speaker 5: did that study on that, I was thinking, So the
Speaker 5: way things seem to work in the whole as above
Speaker 5: so below thing of law and order within the spirit
Speaker 5: realm is they have to have some level of permission
Speaker 5: from us. Whatever the exchange is. Hey, I'm going to
Speaker 5: I want to be rich and powerful, so I give
Speaker 5: my authority of this kingdom and this territory to you,
Speaker 5: But just give me all the wine, women and song
Speaker 5: that I want in power till I'm spent, you know,
Speaker 5: So I'm convinced that kind of thing takes place. They
Speaker 5: have to have permissions, and so you know, whether they
Speaker 5: avatars or just assume a new form after enough time
Speaker 5: has passed and we don't remember what they look like
Speaker 5: or whatever you want to call it, because I don't.
Speaker 5: It seems like a crazy conspiracy. But if you look
Speaker 5: at like portraits in the fourteen's and fifteen hundreds, and
Speaker 5: then you look at certain actors today, I mean, doesn't
Speaker 5: it seem as if there's like some of these people
Speaker 5: who are spot on identical twins to these people over time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a post. I don't know if it's on
Speaker 3: Twitter read at YouTube, but it's literally current actor versus
Speaker 3: a person from like the seventeen hundreds, and it's literally
Speaker 3: a plethora of them. It goes on for like fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3: It's kind of interesting. I think even Flat Earth, the
Speaker 3: fittest flat earther, might have done something on that as well.
Speaker 5: Oh you know what, my wife, dude, come on, if
Speaker 5: you haven't seen that guy, you need to see he. Okay,
Speaker 5: so really he presents tongue in cheek, but it is hysterical.
Speaker 5: But he does. Basically, he's doing it the way it
Speaker 5: should be done. Likely he gives you great information that
Speaker 5: then he presents it in amusing parody. Not anybody's saying
Speaker 5: isn't necessarily true. I'm not saying that. I'm saying he
Speaker 5: presents it in a way that you just can't help him.
Speaker 5: You know, sometimes you find yourself scrolling through his material
Speaker 5: for thirty minutes and you're like, oh, man, I think
Speaker 5: my biscuits are burning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's done a tremendous job. I'm happy to see
Speaker 3: him because that's something he really wanted to do. When
Speaker 3: he's all in and he's done really well for himself,
Speaker 3: I'm happy for him. And it's interesting, you know what
Speaker 3: you were talking about, because I've said before the quote
Speaker 3: unquote elite they live a lot longer than us, right,
Speaker 3: whether it's the Queen of England, the King of England,
Speaker 3: they all live to be ninety nine one hundred and two,
Speaker 3: including the Rockefellers. So obviously they have some knowledge or
Speaker 3: is it a certain thing that they're drinking that is
Speaker 3: keeping them alive longer, especially the people who are on
Speaker 3: the world stage, the actors and actresses, right.
Speaker 5: Is it forbidden to mention what they drink. No, not
Speaker 5: at all.
Speaker 3: No, it's I think Vaire's folks.
Speaker 5: Well, you never know, you know how all these different
Speaker 5: media platforms are. So in my most recent video, I
Speaker 5: do go into the idea and I take it all
Speaker 5: the way back to the Book of Genesis where it
Speaker 5: mentions that were made from the dust, and we return
Speaker 5: to dust and one of the things that the nakash
Speaker 5: or seraphim or serpent like beings, because I'm convinced that
Speaker 5: some of the rebellious angels that came to Mount Herman,
Speaker 5: the original two hundred and I think they had like
Speaker 5: seven primary leaders and then like twenty other leaders mentioned
Speaker 5: in the Book of Banoch and some other extra biblical accounts,
Speaker 5: because the Bible just gives headline news on that, but
Speaker 5: the other ones kind of add to it or confirm it.
Speaker 5: So you've got these beings that seem to still some
Speaker 5: of them were obviously locked up, but it seems like
Speaker 5: as a result of the rebellion, they were disconnected from
Speaker 5: their primary source of energy and life and power, which
Speaker 5: is our creator, their father God in heaven. So they
Speaker 5: still need sustenance, just like we're taken from the dust
Speaker 5: of the ground, and we eat fruits and vegetables that
Speaker 5: come from the ground, and animals that come from the
Speaker 5: ground and return to the ground. Well, they need spirit,
Speaker 5: I mean. And this is just conjecture. Just because I
Speaker 5: believe it doesn't mean anybody else has to believe it.
Speaker 5: I'm just thinking aloud here and I put it into
Speaker 5: my video. If you don't want to believe it, great,
Speaker 5: But I believe that they because Scripture tells us that
Speaker 5: our life force is in our blood, which I'm assuming
Speaker 5: is spirit and nature along with our DNA, and the
Speaker 5: two are quantumly entangled in some way that I don't
Speaker 5: fully understand, and they never understand until I get to
Speaker 5: ask God about it, and maybe even then I won't
Speaker 5: even care about it, you know. But so they acquire
Speaker 5: their source of energy off feeding off of us. And
Speaker 5: I think we have pretty solid evidence throughout time for
Speaker 5: believing this is the case, based off the story of
Speaker 5: their offspring, the Nephylone who weren't. I know, everybody says
Speaker 5: they're all giants, but they weren't. Some of them were giants,
Speaker 5: some of them were just men with great powers like hercules.
Speaker 5: You know, you have all these gods and demi gods,
Speaker 5: and maybe most of them were giants, I don't know,
Speaker 5: but it seems like some of them weren't. And then
Speaker 5: you have later on after the flood, the racka Ain
Speaker 5: who seemed to have this ability to also heal themselves
Speaker 5: and others so and I'm convinced that's one of the
Speaker 5: reasons David took his head off so he couldn't heal
Speaker 5: himself and possibly come back. But they all consume flesh
Speaker 5: and blood, and at some point before the flood they
Speaker 5: even begin to eat each other and drink each other's blood.
Speaker 5: And you have all these stories of like the Highlander
Speaker 5: story where there's energy consumed somehow, or you have the
Speaker 5: stories of vampires who live long lives and drink blood
Speaker 5: or bathe in it and have shape shifting abilities. And
Speaker 5: I'm convinced the reason that human psyche has all these
Speaker 5: stories built into their ancient knowledge and writings is because
Speaker 5: there really are these beings still living with us, doing
Speaker 5: this living among us, and basically because they have all
Speaker 5: these power knowledge and these bloodlines that dig back to
Speaker 5: the beginning. They're the ones with all the money and
Speaker 5: the power and the influence, and you know, they obviously
Speaker 5: have powers we don't, and they can, you know, obviously
Speaker 5: they can offer to others, because it seems as if
Speaker 5: you don't move and shake on this planet, on a
Speaker 5: very popular world by level, unless you've made some sort
Speaker 5: of deal with them. That's right. Yeah, it may not
Speaker 5: always be true, but it sure seems like it is.
Speaker 3: I would say at least ninety percent. Is there some
Speaker 3: organic luck sometimes, certainly, But if you're going to be
Speaker 3: if you're going to be like an influence seriously with
Speaker 3: a large audience, whether music or movies, you have to
Speaker 3: be part of the club without a doubt, because you
Speaker 3: have to push a certain narrative. Sure there's some people
Speaker 3: who get not every musical group from the eighties was
Speaker 3: part of the club. I'm sure the men without hats
Speaker 3: who did the safety dance, I don't think they bet
Speaker 3: their need a satan. But certainly, you know, the big, big,
Speaker 3: big ones, certainly, without a doubt, I believe wholeheartedly did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they certainly didn't get any keyboard skill from no No.
Speaker 5: I always said of myself when I was doing my
Speaker 5: own music, I was like, I hadn't really I don't.
Speaker 5: I can't play keyboard with both hands, but I can
Speaker 5: do some stuff with one hand, you know, melody line
Speaker 5: which you can hear in that video. I leave some
Speaker 5: keyboards on my on my video, and I plan to
Speaker 5: upload more of my music and part of the whole
Speaker 5: idea of my music album because I know you can't
Speaker 5: make money off streams. What is it You have to
Speaker 5: have thirty trillion streams to earn twenty five cents to
Speaker 5: put machine? Yeah, so I know, I mean I'll make
Speaker 5: money there. But I was thinking about providing my story
Speaker 5: narrative for the concept album as a PDF download for
Speaker 5: people to be able to download the album for like,
Speaker 5: I don't know, eleven bucks get you get the story,
Speaker 5: you get the songs, you get to read the PDF.
Speaker 5: But I worry about that because I know part of
Speaker 5: the enjoyment of listening to music is imagining what the
Speaker 5: sound story is doing in your own head as the
Speaker 5: music plays out or you hear lyrics or whatever. But
Speaker 5: I also thought, well, you can still read my story
Speaker 5: narrative and still picture it in your head in your
Speaker 5: own way. You know what the character looks like. So
Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm still up in the air about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, speaking of music, if I can run
Speaker 3: this past you, you know, led Zeppelin four, they had
Speaker 3: a song called no I'm sorry it was no Wait
Speaker 3: a second, what's the one about the Hobbit, not ramble.
Speaker 5: On Achilles last stand.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that was about the Thorhammer of God and
Speaker 3: all that. But there was a song that maybe it
Speaker 3: was ramble on.
Speaker 5: It is ramble on that mentions yeah, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, it's very interesting. Yeah, for sure that when
Speaker 3: you go back like you, when you listen to it,
Speaker 3: you know you. I always wonder if these big groups
Speaker 3: who are part of the glob Club, pardon me intentionally
Speaker 3: put lyrics because the English language a lot of there's
Speaker 3: some very in depth books and podcasts and YouTube channels
Speaker 3: that break down the English language, and a lot of
Speaker 3: people think that the words themselves have deeper meanings than
Speaker 3: we quite realize. And a lot of people say that
Speaker 3: the big bands of the seventies and even in the eighties,
Speaker 3: when you're singing them, it almost is a chant. I've
Speaker 3: talked a million times about let it be in the
Speaker 3: experiment they did at Stanford where it makes you know,
Speaker 3: singing that song over and over makes your docile. Do
Speaker 3: you think there's any legitimacy to that, well.
Speaker 5: I would think there'd have to be right. I mean,
Speaker 5: if if our Lord spoke everything into creation, he used
Speaker 5: the vibration sound ways of his voice in light because
Speaker 5: there is no darkness in him at all, to basically
Speaker 5: create all the reality. Right, So we have everything made
Speaker 5: up of vibration and you know, light or string theory,
Speaker 5: if you want to say that. And so if you
Speaker 5: can have that, I mean not that I'm saying we're God,
Speaker 5: but I think we can take the materials He's provided
Speaker 5: us and through Like even now, when I tune my guitars,
Speaker 5: I do it to a different frequency when I'm playing,
Speaker 5: because I really believe that certain frequencies can be harmful.
Speaker 5: I mean, all you got to do is look at
Speaker 5: your plants and you can see that certain frequencies help
Speaker 5: them to grow, and some don't. Some are damaging, some
Speaker 5: are not. Some plants respond to different forms of music
Speaker 5: and whatnot. And I do believe that you can put
Speaker 5: lyrics into things, and maybe beyond just doing lyrics, maybe
Speaker 5: they do other things to make the song, you know,
Speaker 5: more powerful for what their intended use of that song is,
Speaker 5: whatever it may be. You know, I think there is
Speaker 5: something to all of these things, because I believe there's
Speaker 5: a spirit world, So you know, why, why wouldn't I
Speaker 5: think that you could influence through vibration, frequency, sound? And
Speaker 5: I think even in the nk Aultu program another wake
Speaker 5: up for me as long as well as Project mom Talk,
Speaker 5: they use things like light and frequency and things like
Speaker 5: that to break people into spiritual fragments to be able
Speaker 5: to manipulate them in different ways, so you could compartmentalize
Speaker 5: a human being so that you have this human being,
Speaker 5: when turned on in this one area that you have manipulated,
Speaker 5: is capable of doing something that the rest of their
Speaker 5: but the rest of them doesn't remember. It looks like
Speaker 5: they go out, they get triggered, they steal something, says
Speaker 5: something on fire, do whatever task they're supposed to do,
Speaker 5: kind of like the Jason Bourne thing, and then they
Speaker 5: black out and don't remember what they did. They couldn't
Speaker 5: tell you where they went, how they got there. They
Speaker 5: have no idea. So sure, I think I think music
Speaker 5: can do that, and I think even you know, when
Speaker 5: you said something about the music in the seventies, I
Speaker 5: got to say, I don't know if you noticed this,
Speaker 5: and I'm sorry to get a rabbit trailed here. But
Speaker 5: did you not notice that somewhere in the seventies and eighties,
Speaker 5: because I was a musician in the eighties, you used
Speaker 5: to be able to make like a four track demo
Speaker 5: and give it to the local DJ and maybe get
Speaker 5: on the air, you know, like what happened with Rush.
Speaker 3: That's right. It was like in Ohio, like Sinnati, right, yeah.
Speaker 5: And everybody Rush or a new Zeppelin album and said no,
Speaker 5: it's a bad rush out of Canada, and I mean
Speaker 5: it took off on Wildfire. But now now you have
Speaker 5: to worship at the altar of Clear Channel or some
Speaker 5: other whatever to even get anything done. You're you're just
Speaker 5: not going to You're not going to get a hold
Speaker 5: of a DJ. They don't even I don't think DJs
Speaker 5: other than A and radio are even really DJ's. Anywhere.
Speaker 5: You have people who do canned shows that they mix
Speaker 5: in with their music, or they have maybe a few
Speaker 5: local talking heads that bring up, you know, certain local issues,
Speaker 5: but they're not the ones plotting out the music or anything.
Speaker 5: It's all the music execs that you ain't getting to
Speaker 5: get in touch with unless you know, you do p
Speaker 5: ditty stuff.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 5: So about going into detail. It's just disgusting.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I wanted to backtrack just a bit before we
Speaker 3: get more into flat Earth. You know, you had mentioned
Speaker 3: much of your channel as a about the seed War,
Speaker 3: et cetera. Did that come to your mind as COVID
Speaker 3: was going on and we kind of slipped into twenty
Speaker 3: twenty one, did you think about the JAB and what
Speaker 3: the ultimate endgame was with that?
Speaker 5: Well? I started in debates on social media. I started
Speaker 5: calling it Project Thanos because I immediately knew just from
Speaker 5: looking at Bill Gates and all the other people involved
Speaker 5: with the AID stuff, including Fauci, that what they were
Speaker 5: up to at the very least was miscarriages and the
Speaker 5: ability inability for Western civilization to maintain a healthy birth
Speaker 5: rate to depopulate. All the people that pushed hard on
Speaker 5: this JAB were people who have openly supported the idea
Speaker 5: of depopulation. Made you look at Bill Gates in his
Speaker 5: background and the industry and everything his parents were involved in,
Speaker 5: in Baucci and all the things he was involved in,
Speaker 5: and any of the others associated with any of these people,
Speaker 5: the World Health or organization in the wh they all
Speaker 5: talk about. Of course, we're not going to say they
Speaker 5: want to they want to off you like Theanos did,
Speaker 5: like the snap of their fingers, although I'm telling you
Speaker 5: right now, one of them had the glove. That Klaus
Speaker 5: had the glove, he would snap his fingers and a
Speaker 5: heartbeat to get rid of fifty percent of us. Some
Speaker 5: more secure. He just wants enough people to feed his
Speaker 5: fat face. I guess I don't know enough workers to
Speaker 5: plant his garden or whatever he needs in his fifteen
Speaker 5: minute cities. But so yeah, I think I think that
Speaker 5: whole thing was about depopulation really, and other things that
Speaker 5: would just be absolute wild conjecture and speculation on my part.
Speaker 5: Like I've watched videos, I don't know if they're true
Speaker 5: or not. They're done by people who were associated with
Speaker 5: the front bye and doctors talking about you know, some
Speaker 5: of the stuff that's being injected is capable of taking
Speaker 5: aspects of your DNA and reassembling an entirely new communication
Speaker 5: network frame within your body biologically. So it's not like
Speaker 5: you could electrically get rid of whatever is inside of
Speaker 5: you through EMP type stuff or anything, because you've got
Speaker 5: a whole new biological neural network that it's constructed for,
Speaker 5: you know, possible communication to. I mean, you know, let's
Speaker 5: say they want to with all the vaccinated people, create
Speaker 5: some new virus and they can just somehow communicate with
Speaker 5: that and give you whatever they want and kill off
Speaker 5: a certain part of the population here there, anywhere whatever
Speaker 5: they want, or even have you know, some sort of
Speaker 5: I know it's ridiculous sounding, but maybe even some sort
Speaker 5: of zombie apocalypse by controlling these people. I think it
Speaker 5: was it Russ Dizzar. I think that talked about a
Speaker 5: black awakening and things of that nature. I think that
Speaker 5: wouldn't necessarily be COVID people. It would be people involved
Speaker 5: with possibly mk ultra and things of that nature. But
Speaker 5: still there's always that possibility. And so that's not necessarily
Speaker 5: related to my book at all. It is related to
Speaker 5: my website theme and narrative and my music narrative, because
Speaker 5: again I believe all of this is connected, this whole
Speaker 5: web at intricacy with all these things from you know,
Speaker 5: the education system basically making us docile idiots that are
Speaker 5: basically workers instead of entrepreneurs and independent thinkers that they
Speaker 5: don't want that obviously, they want, you know, they want
Speaker 5: you subservient, and as Robe.
Speaker 3: Feller said, he doesn't want a nation of thinkers, He
Speaker 3: wants a nation to work.
Speaker 5: How do people not go back and read his quotes
Speaker 5: literally he said out loud, and it's like you read
Speaker 5: them and you're like, how the hell did we ever
Speaker 5: listened to this guy? But it's because of his money
Speaker 5: and power and his influence. But yeah, I think they're
Speaker 5: all that entire web. The spider that's weaving it is
Speaker 5: Hilo and his cohorts, and they've been around since the beginning,
Speaker 5: and that's what I'm trying to show people, and at
Speaker 5: some point they're The current narrative I believe they're building
Speaker 5: is this whole UAP phenomenon trying to convince people that
Speaker 5: they are simply nothing more than these interplanetary, interdimensional travelers
Speaker 5: that have been around guiding us, giving us wisdom through
Speaker 5: the ages, and they're wonderful and they're going to give
Speaker 5: us these magic healing beds and all these wonderful things
Speaker 5: and so on and so forth, and at some point
Speaker 5: they're going to convince us that the God that we
Speaker 5: love is really the enemy. I mean, the Masons have
Speaker 5: been trying to do this for you know, trees, yep,
Speaker 5: So Haleo is the real giver of wisdom for everybody,
Speaker 5: even though like I said before, that tree of the
Speaker 5: knowledge of get An Evil was not freeing us for me,
Speaker 5: and it was enslaving us to being you know, stupid
Speaker 5: centers basically that that are basically under his control and
Speaker 5: we wind up giving our birthright to him without even
Speaker 5: realizing it in some cases. And so yeah, that to me,
Speaker 5: that's the big spider weaving the web is all those
Speaker 5: cohorts and that's why that's why it's all interconnected from
Speaker 5: today and if you if you follow, I don't know
Speaker 5: if you've ever seen that British documentary called Connections where
Speaker 5: they basically go from a horse saddle to a nuclear
Speaker 5: supag bomb. Yeah, I was fascinated by that. But if
Speaker 5: you look at the connectivity, you've got these beings that
Speaker 5: have been there behind the scenes this whole time. I
Speaker 5: think there's I think there's a restrainer of lawlessness and
Speaker 5: a veil currently in place since somewhere after the flood
Speaker 5: there strains some of their activity and their ability to reproduce.
Speaker 5: Like Gary Wayne said, you know, their offspring begin to
Speaker 5: die off. Maybe they went underground. I don't know, because
Speaker 5: you have those American Indian stories about the ant people.
Speaker 5: And it wasn't because of their size. It was because
Speaker 5: these giants were coming up out of the ground in
Speaker 5: North America and we're eating their buffalo and carrying them off,
Speaker 5: and they could leap hundreds of yards with a single bound,
Speaker 5: and you know, and there's even stories of some eight
Speaker 5: to eleven footers being burned some cave either in Kentucky
Speaker 5: or Tennessee, I can't remember where, but I mean, there's
Speaker 5: there's stories and narratives of this whole culture of Nephelin
Speaker 5: fallen angels with the entire planet along lay lines South America, Europe, Africa, China.
Speaker 5: They all have zigarrots, they all have pyramids, they all
Speaker 5: have incredible knowledge of how to build megalithic structures in
Speaker 5: connection with how the stars moved like a clock. And
Speaker 5: they knew the Earth was flat because they planned all
Speaker 5: their stomp around of lat Earth. But the way that
Speaker 5: the constellations move around at one degree every I can't
Speaker 5: remember ro one degree, well, thirty degrees every supposedly every
Speaker 5: two thousand years. I think that calculation is off. But anyway,
Speaker 5: we get that the stars rotate as a clock, telling
Speaker 5: its story that we've obviously forgotten up in our upper atmosphere,
Speaker 5: but they know it, and they know what's going on. Yep.
Speaker 5: And I'm convinced they're going to pursue Well, we already
Speaker 5: know right from reading Revelation that they persuade most of
Speaker 5: humanity to fight the return of God because they think
Speaker 5: that whoever these beings are are the right angels, and
Speaker 5: the Antichrist is their messiah. It's not like the Antichrist
Speaker 5: is going to be like this obvious pitchfork demonic looking character.
Speaker 5: He's going to be everything he ever wanted, you know,
Speaker 5: he's going to be really walking the chocolate factory. Great movie,
Speaker 5: by the.
Speaker 7: Way, yep.
Speaker 3: And at least I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 5: I was going to say, at least the one with
Speaker 5: Gane Wilder, Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't seen the new one either, but that
Speaker 3: one was a classic for sure. But that kind of
Speaker 3: comes full circle, if you will, because you know, at
Speaker 3: the heart of it, what is Project Bluebeam about, Well,
Speaker 3: they can't even create Project Blue Beam unless they give
Speaker 3: us the narrative of a globe and outer space and aliens.
Speaker 5: Correct, That's absolutely correct, and that is why I'm so
Speaker 5: happy that at the top of the one hundred step ladder.
Speaker 5: I came across the flat Earth thing like that thing
Speaker 5: you played in the episode of seventy somewhere that was brilliant,
Speaker 5: by the way, you know, one wrung at a time
Speaker 5: until most of us get to that top one hundred
Speaker 5: throng and we see the flat earth there. And I
Speaker 5: never made the connection until I started listening to your podcast,
Speaker 5: because I thought, you know, all this other stuff was
Speaker 5: so important, and it is, but the reality is the
Speaker 5: biggest part of that deception, the foundation for it and
Speaker 5: everything that it's springboards off of is convincing everybody that
Speaker 5: the Earth is not what God says it is, that
Speaker 5: it's not flat, that it is heliocentric, so that they
Speaker 5: can convince you that God is just another alien from
Speaker 5: some universe millions of miles away or whatever. And you know,
Speaker 5: as a Christian, I remember apologetically defending the Big Bang
Speaker 5: through the column cosmological argument, and you know, the fine
Speaker 5: tuning of the universe, which look even at the for
Speaker 5: whatever reason, like you said in the podcast the other day,
Speaker 5: if we send a balloon up from Argentina or something,
Speaker 5: and I know, the logistics don't work. If somebody managed
Speaker 5: to write, and we got to see that it wasn't flat.
Speaker 5: I would still have all the arguments behind fine tuning
Speaker 5: and the columns bological argument for God's existence, but after
Speaker 5: if you read scripture and combine it with the flat earth,
Speaker 5: that to me is the narrative and the more cohesive
Speaker 5: story and makes a lot more sense with what Biblical
Speaker 5: cosmology is, and that is a flat earth. And I've
Speaker 5: had a debate on X just this morning about these
Speaker 5: guys talking about two ninety degree turns on a globe.
Speaker 5: It gets you back to your starting point. And I
Speaker 5: just understood what they were saying. I was thinking because
Speaker 5: initially the guy said three ninety degree turns, I'm like,
Speaker 5: that's a square. It wouldn't matter if the world was
Speaker 5: a globe or flat as a pancake. You're going to
Speaker 5: wind up at your starting point, right. And I don't
Speaker 5: know if you've heard this argument before, but they were saying,
Speaker 5: if you go out like a thousand miles, take a
Speaker 5: ninety degree turn, go out another thousand miles, and then
Speaker 5: take another ninety degree turn, you wind up back at
Speaker 5: your starting point. And my wife and I were discussing
Speaker 5: that this morning, and I was like, doesn't a triangle
Speaker 5: only have one hundred and eighty degrees? What I know
Speaker 5: would that other degree be? I don't even understand the argument,
Speaker 5: so I asked, I asked the guy that made the argument.
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, so ninety degrees, ninety degrees, you
Speaker 5: got one hundred and eighty degrees. What's the what's the
Speaker 5: angle of the third degree in this triangle on the
Speaker 5: globe you're referencing? Because I don't think what you're saying
Speaker 5: is possible. And I looked it up and there is
Speaker 5: no flight pattern on record that ever indicates that a
Speaker 5: plane ever did that in any flight pattern to make
Speaker 5: a triangle work on a globe. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Are there are more and more pilots going public. Of course,
Speaker 3: the algorithm does their best to hide them. I probably
Speaker 3: need to start dropping them into the forum on the website,
Speaker 3: because it seems like now almost every week there's pilots.
Speaker 3: You know, people are just going up to the cockpit
Speaker 3: as are on the plane, asking a few questions. They're like, no,
Speaker 3: we don't obviously, you know, continuously tip our nose down
Speaker 3: and it looks relatively flat. And again I always tell people,
Speaker 3: if you're ever in Colorado Springs, go to the Manitou Incline,
Speaker 3: look for yourself, and that in itself you'll be like, yep,
Speaker 3: we're not on a ball.
Speaker 5: Yeah. The mountain thing you bring up all the time,
Speaker 5: it should be what did you say, forty miles below
Speaker 5: the visual line according to their calculation, But you can
Speaker 5: clearly see the entire mountain off in the distance. How
Speaker 5: is that even possible? So, either I've mentioned this to
Speaker 5: them because you know, you try to do breadcrumbs because
Speaker 5: you don't want to break somebody's fragile global mind. So
Speaker 5: and I'm serious about that, I don't I don't want
Speaker 5: to be a jerk about these kind of things. I
Speaker 5: want people to be drawn in with honey, you know,
Speaker 5: but with firmness. So when you ask a question, you know,
Speaker 5: how do you account for that? You know, how do
Speaker 5: you account the fact that we can see too far?
Speaker 5: Either the calculation is off or you'll have to admit
Speaker 5: at some point that the Earth is way more massive
Speaker 5: than what you're saying it is. And I just don't
Speaker 5: see it.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: And the frustrating part is, and again I'm not a hypocrite.
Speaker 3: I was that person too, getting people understand the gravity.
Speaker 3: I always said that the gravity the importance of the
Speaker 3: importance of understanding where we live, and that the Bible
Speaker 3: is accurate and the deeper meanings. And you know I've
Speaker 3: said this before. I've had that. I've tried to have
Speaker 3: conversations with pastors, you know, locally, and it's just I'm
Speaker 3: not being rude. I'm just it's like a deer in
Speaker 3: a headlights look that I just can't get them to connect.
Speaker 3: And that is going. Man, we go in full circle
Speaker 3: so many times in this podcast, going back to Rockafeller
Speaker 3: and how important that is. How they have controlled the
Speaker 3: narrative through education. And they knew when radio became, you know,
Speaker 3: every household had a radio in whatever it was the
Speaker 3: thirties and we talked about War of the worlds. They
Speaker 3: understood that they were ready to deliver their plan, just
Speaker 3: as they held their COVID plan until they were ready technologically.
Speaker 3: They said, you know, everybody's got zoom. We can now
Speaker 3: we can implement our plan. So they have to have
Speaker 3: things in place in order to implement their next plan.
Speaker 3: And by the way, going back to what you were
Speaker 3: saying earlier with the jabs, you always hear of you
Speaker 3: and agenda twenty thirty, Well what's coming between twenty twenty
Speaker 3: eight and twenty thirty six? G So, I mean who knows?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, I mean who does know? And a
Speaker 5: lot of the things that we wildly speculate on or
Speaker 5: maybe even joke about, like it seems like six months
Speaker 5: to a year later, it's like, well we knew, you know, here,
Speaker 5: here we go. It's now it's coming into.
Speaker 3: Absolutely it's you never know. And that's what they say. Now,
Speaker 3: what's the difference between a conspiracy and the truth? About
Speaker 3: six months?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that that that distance gets shorter all the time, yep.
Speaker 3: And and you know all these things, whether it be
Speaker 3: nine to eleven or COVID, it's it's about creating a
Speaker 3: new norm, right. They like to say, it's just the
Speaker 3: new what's the term they use. Darn it, there's a
Speaker 3: phrase they use that I just can't stand. But it's
Speaker 3: it's basically they're creating new norms. And we as humans,
Speaker 3: we're very adaptive to the changes in the world. And
Speaker 3: it's crazy when you look at the world just in
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen and how much it's changed in just five years.
Speaker 3: It's truly incredible.
Speaker 5: It really is like, like I've heard you say, I
Speaker 5: never would have thought so many people would follow for
Speaker 5: the tyranny and give into it and might even fight.
Speaker 5: I'm so glad that my wife and I were blessed
Speaker 5: to be surrounded by people who were fighters and free thankers,
Speaker 5: But we also had plenty of other people who you
Speaker 5: know that, well, it's my Christian duty to love my
Speaker 5: neighbor and get the shot. And we were like, no,
Speaker 5: it's your Christian duty to live a life of truth
Speaker 5: and not surrendered to lies and warn your neighbor of
Speaker 5: lies that are harmful to them. You know, well, I
Speaker 5: don't want to make you know, I don't want to
Speaker 5: make grandmas sick, like, well, grandma's getting sick because she's
Speaker 5: listening to them and wearing a mask and getting bacterial
Speaker 5: pneumonia from it, you know, because it's fine understanding that
Speaker 5: the vast majority of people who died in the hospitals
Speaker 5: died of bacterial pneumonia and from getting remmed a severe
Speaker 5: and basically all their protocols that were designed to kill people,
Speaker 5: not actual COVID or you know whatever. I mean. I'm
Speaker 5: sure there were probably people that did pass. I don't
Speaker 5: mean to be insensitive to people who may have passed
Speaker 5: away legitimately from COVID. I mean, I do believe it
Speaker 5: is a real virus that of some sort that was
Speaker 5: unleashed on us, because I lost my sense of smell
Speaker 5: for about a year, and I had to look up
Speaker 5: different ways that I could retrain my sense of smell,
Speaker 5: and that wasn't always pleasant, but it works. If you
Speaker 5: retrain your sense of smell by using familiar sense like cinnamon, orange, peppermint, pine,
Speaker 5: things of that nature, over time, you kind of retrain that.
Speaker 5: I don't think you can call it muscle memory, but
Speaker 5: maybe sense rememory that might have been damaged from the
Speaker 5: spike protein stuff. I don't know. I wish I knew
Speaker 5: more about it. I don't necessarily know the whole medical
Speaker 5: stuff behind COVID or the JAB, but I do know
Speaker 5: the people who are behind it, and I see the
Speaker 5: effects of it. I look at channels where I died
Speaker 5: suddenly on X or Facebook and you can. And the
Speaker 5: crazy thing to me is that they're trying that even
Speaker 5: normalize that kids have myochiditis or It's like the same
Speaker 5: idiots that tell us, well, you know, autism is just
Speaker 5: a perfectly normal thing that we have to accept now,
Speaker 5: And I'm like, no, we don't. We give these kids
Speaker 5: seventy plus injections before they're even in high school. And
Speaker 5: you can see the correlation on charts between the rise
Speaker 5: and mental issues, autism, Asperger's disease, all these different things.
Speaker 5: And I've seen enough videos of people taking videos of
Speaker 5: their children shortly after getting the jab, and how they
Speaker 5: almost look like they're in that. I don't know if
Speaker 5: you've ever seen somebody who's in shock from a wound
Speaker 5: or whatever, a thousand yards stare, and you just wonder
Speaker 5: if the kid's going to make it or if he's
Speaker 5: going to be normal. And some of them recover and
Speaker 5: some of them don't. But to say that jabs in
Speaker 5: vaccines don't impact kids negatively is to me as crazy
Speaker 5: as saying that, you know, myocarditis for perfectly healthy football players,
Speaker 5: soccer players, tennis players is the new norm. And yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, it's caused by all these crazy things they're
Speaker 5: trying to associate it with. We're just supposed to accept
Speaker 5: that like we do all their other odwash.
Speaker 3: You know, we were talking earlier about knowledge and being
Speaker 3: ready for it. The same goes for exactly that. You know,
Speaker 3: something that kind of shocked me as I was doing
Speaker 3: my research a few years ago was the fact that
Speaker 3: vitamin K, you know, as an infant, your the body
Speaker 3: doesn't develop it until the eighth day. So now they're
Speaker 3: forcing vitamin K. Basically, it's one of the initial jabs
Speaker 3: that they give babies. Now, the fact is their body's
Speaker 3: not ready for it. That's why they the babies wait
Speaker 3: eight days to start producing vitamin K. But what do
Speaker 3: they do now they have these babies of the womb
Speaker 3: with vitamin K.
Speaker 5: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So if your body's not ready for it, if
Speaker 3: it doesn't start producing it until the eighth day, why
Speaker 3: are we forcing something on the child that isn't ready
Speaker 3: for it. It's just I could talk about that for hours,
Speaker 3: but I digress. I do have one alibi, if you will,
Speaker 3: before we I ask you a few more questions as
Speaker 3: we start to wind down, I do wanted to mention,
Speaker 3: you know, we were talking about the music of the
Speaker 3: sixties and seventies, the CIA. There's some great documentaries on
Speaker 3: YouTube how the CIA created the hippie movement to kind
Speaker 3: of over to make people who look like people who
Speaker 3: were protesting the Vietnam War look like losers. Basically. There's
Speaker 3: a lot more to it, but I'm sure I've mentioned
Speaker 3: this before. But speaking of books everyone should read is
Speaker 3: Dave McGowan's Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon and all the
Speaker 3: sixties groups that came up through Laurel Canyon and all
Speaker 3: their parents were part of military intelligence. We're talking about
Speaker 3: the Birds, Buffalo, Springfield, the Monkeys, the Beach Boys, the
Speaker 3: Mamas and the Papas, the Eagles. All these people grew
Speaker 3: up in the same area and all their parents were
Speaker 3: in military intelligence, and.
Speaker 5: They were all breaking on through to the other side
Speaker 5: with Jim Morrison. That's right right right into the Gulf
Speaker 5: of Tonkin.
Speaker 3: Yeah, isn't it crazy. It's just it's mind blowing, you.
Speaker 5: Know, it's even crazy or flattered Dave, I think in
Speaker 5: one of his promos and uh, he makes this connection
Speaker 5: between Rush Limbaugh and Jim Morrison later on in life.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you've ever seen that. Oh, yes,
Speaker 5: it's pretty pretty interesting. And I wouldn't put anything past
Speaker 5: anybody who's in a position of great wealth or power
Speaker 5: simply because of what you've stated before, which is that
Speaker 5: generally speaking, and I want to say this for them.
Speaker 5: But for the most part, you know, because God can
Speaker 5: have his his Abrahams and his Josephs and you know,
Speaker 5: but they're they're few and far between, and the vast
Speaker 5: majority of them are compromised people who have done unspeakable
Speaker 5: deals to get where they are and to have that fame.
Speaker 5: And I don't understand it other than you know, maybe
Speaker 5: in their minds it's better to have, you know, seventy
Speaker 5: five years or so of pleasure on earth, then you
Speaker 5: know what's waiting for them in the afterlife. I don't know.
Speaker 5: I just I don't understand that way of thinking, and
Speaker 5: I'm not sure I want to. But it's pretty clear
Speaker 5: that something goes on because it's almost impossible to break
Speaker 5: above a certain level of do you want to call
Speaker 5: it knowneness or whatever without making certain deals that wind
Speaker 5: up compromising you. And I certainly don't want to do that.
Speaker 5: I just want to get a message out if people
Speaker 5: connect with my channel and enjoy what I'm putting together
Speaker 5: for them, to like the dots for them and so
Speaker 5: they can share a quickie video rather than one that's
Speaker 5: two hours long. Great, because I've got videos that are
Speaker 5: five minutes long and My longest one right now is
Speaker 5: forty one minutes and everything in between. And my music
Speaker 5: may not be for everyone, but it tells a story
Speaker 5: and I find it interesting. And it's not just fluff music.
Speaker 5: It is music that is intended to not only tell
Speaker 5: a story lyrically and also the story I write behind
Speaker 5: each one, but I like the music to rise and
Speaker 5: fall and tell a story also, which is why maybe
Speaker 5: it shouldn't be. One of my favorite bands is a Tool,
Speaker 5: and I feel like they almost called with their Fear
Speaker 5: and Oculate Perinoculum album, the most recent one. It's like
Speaker 5: they almost spelled out what was coming with the COVID virus,
Speaker 5: and I don't know if you read the lyrics for it.
Speaker 5: One of my favorite songs is a song called Descending
Speaker 5: by Tool, and it basically just talks about, you know,
Speaker 5: we're in a free fall, you know, and if we
Speaker 5: don't get our act together, we're done.
Speaker 3: Wow. So that album came out August thirtieth, twenty nineteen,
Speaker 3: which would have been about a couple of weeks after
Speaker 3: Carrie Mullis died and Jeffrey Epso that's interesting. I'm not familiar.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know the group Tool I'm not up
Speaker 3: to date with the band's newer stuff, but that is interesting.
Speaker 3: The timing of that album.
Speaker 5: And so of the lyrics for songs like the title track,
Speaker 5: Fear and Oculum and a song called Numa and descending
Speaker 5: in some ways, it's almost like they knew what was coming.
Speaker 5: What the musicians are able to do that somehow, I
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 3: This is crazy. So again, this came out August thirtieth,
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. Immunity Long Overdue, Contagian ex tell you naive.
Speaker 3: I opened up to you venom in Mania and it
Speaker 3: goes on about contagions and man, the chances that that
Speaker 3: came out with those.
Speaker 5: Lyrics, Yeah, it's crazy. And I think there's a there's
Speaker 5: also a guy out there that has done videos on
Speaker 5: how he believes that they put some sort of in
Speaker 5: addition to everything else, they put some sort of snaked
Speaker 5: in them into the vaccines. I can't remember who that is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they interviewed him a couple of years ago. He
Speaker 3: came out with a little documentary if you will. It
Speaker 3: was called Poison in the Water or something in the waters.
Speaker 5: Yes, and I think that was a failed project by
Speaker 5: those in power, which is why I think the food
Speaker 5: stuff doesn't work. I think the water stuff doesn't necessarily work,
Speaker 5: which is why they resorted to exposing themselves. You know,
Speaker 5: I think they knew it was going to wake up
Speaker 5: a lot of people, but it was the only way
Speaker 5: to firmly, for whatever reason, to get that stuff inside
Speaker 5: of us. It was the key, and that's why they
Speaker 5: pushed this vaccine so heavily upon us. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 5: God has made our bodies so resilient.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 5: It's design that it seems to be involve two things
Speaker 5: with the vaccine, right, because eating and drinking isn't necessarily
Speaker 5: giving permission, but going out and choosing to go get
Speaker 5: that vaccine, that that was giving permission. And you allowed
Speaker 5: them to put something in your body that my god,
Speaker 5: you didn't even know what the hell it was. What
Speaker 5: were you thinking? You know, if you knew it was,
Speaker 5: you knew it wasn't one hundred percent solid, you knew
Speaker 5: it was rushed, you knew it was questionable or some
Speaker 5: sort of and you knew they put it out there
Speaker 5: under questionable means, And the only way they could do
Speaker 5: it was to suppress info on ibermectin and hydroxychloroquin and
Speaker 5: make it look like those were not proper alternatives. And
Speaker 5: one of the first things my wife noticed about all
Speaker 5: of that that turned her and you know bes detector
Speaker 5: immediately on, was that, nowhere during that whole time, during
Speaker 5: COVID or the injections, did they ever talk about any
Speaker 5: positive things you could do outside of the vaccine. They'd
Speaker 5: get some sunshine.
Speaker 3: The only answer was to get vaccinated. That was the
Speaker 3: only answer. They didn't talk about sunshine, They didn't talk about,
Speaker 3: you know, things to eat, drinking water. Just there's so
Speaker 3: many things you can do. And that again, that goes
Speaker 3: back to Psalms one eighteen eight. You put your trust
Speaker 3: in the Lord, not men, and we did just many
Speaker 3: people did just the opposite. They look to the guy
Speaker 3: in the white lab coat for the answers.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I prayed that a lot of people are going
Speaker 5: to pay for that. In twenty twenty five, if you
Speaker 5: believe that Degal report that they have since taken it
Speaker 5: off their side, Yeah, they sure have because of the controversy. Ye, boy,
Speaker 5: they say for the longest time, I can't remember if
Speaker 5: it says that basically in America alone, thirty million people
Speaker 5: drop off.
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it was that how many
Speaker 3: people were left than Robert.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's either thirty million or gone or
Speaker 5: only thirty million.
Speaker 3: Or well, I think that's what it was. It was
Speaker 3: a huge drop off. It was like twenty five or
Speaker 3: thirty million people. It went from three hundred and thirty
Speaker 3: five to twenty five to thirty million, and then it
Speaker 3: started making its way on all the media. Is I
Speaker 3: think when it was first disclosed again right around twenty twenty,
Speaker 3: and I think in twenty it might have been the
Speaker 3: end of twenty two, where early twenty three they pulled it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's right, because I remember trying to reference
Speaker 5: it and I dissipated debate and I was like, well,
Speaker 5: damn it, now I can't even I don't even use
Speaker 5: this anymore really except for screenshots, and nobody believed screenshots anymore.
Speaker 3: Yep, there you go. And by the way, doctor Brian
Speaker 3: Artist was the guy who did the documentary with I
Speaker 3: think Stu Peters watched the water. We only have about
Speaker 3: five minutes left, but I don't want to leave without
Speaker 3: asking you what your six silver bullets are as far
Speaker 3: as the flat.
Speaker 5: Earth goes, well, I mentioned the one already, which is
Speaker 5: the curvature that's hard to get around. I don't see
Speaker 5: how anybody gets around that. And then I would also
Speaker 5: say that when we talk about the traveling on aircraft
Speaker 5: and how they go about doing their flight patterns, that
Speaker 5: was a big one for me as well, because it
Speaker 5: doesn't make any sense if the world is a globe
Speaker 5: the way that some of these flight patterns are set
Speaker 5: up and how they do it. And the third one
Speaker 5: would be that emergency sixteen emergency landings thing, where the
Speaker 5: way that they saw the crisis in flight doesn't make
Speaker 5: any sense on a globe, but if the Earth is flat,
Speaker 5: it makes sense where they decided to land or touchdown
Speaker 5: or take care of business. And then fourth I would say,
Speaker 5: and this isn't necessarily in order of importance, but water,
Speaker 5: even if you believe the gravity was holding the water
Speaker 5: to the earth, would it not with the way it
Speaker 5: spins in the shape that they say it is all
Speaker 5: begin to gravitate towards the center if it was going
Speaker 5: to be held on at all. Yep, I mean that's
Speaker 5: what would make sense like in a centrifuge. Isn't that
Speaker 5: kind of how a center puge works?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely, And that is the one thing that I
Speaker 3: wish people would take the time just to sit down
Speaker 3: and think about water always finds its level. You can't
Speaker 3: centrifugal force. It's going to blow it away. It's not
Speaker 3: going to stick to it. It's just ridiculous. And again,
Speaker 3: you know you can't get too worked up because we
Speaker 3: were that person once as well, but I didn't mean
Speaker 3: inter rep Please go ahead and finish up.
Speaker 5: Well. My sixth and last thing would be scripture. Yeah, look,
Speaker 5: scripture pretty much clearly whether you like it or not,
Speaker 5: you can allegorize it away if you wish, or say
Speaker 5: that the ancients didn't know how has to describe it,
Speaker 5: but I think they did, and God knew how he
Speaker 5: wanted them to describe it because that's the way he
Speaker 5: made it, and that is that either the earth is
Speaker 5: fixed in geocentric or it is flat. And I think
Speaker 5: there's every indication it's flat, because if you go outside
Speaker 5: of biblical resources or the Bible itself, it seems pretty
Speaker 5: clear that the ancient Hebrews had picture models and descriptions
Speaker 5: of it that had a flat earth with a dome
Speaker 5: and the columns under the earth, which I really believe
Speaker 5: that when the angels the fallen angels built things on
Speaker 5: this planet. They were mimicking things from where they came from,
Speaker 5: like the pyramids, the columns, all these different things, including
Speaker 5: even because I believe New Jerusalem that descends in Revelation
Speaker 5: chapter twenty one, it doesn't have to be a cube.
Speaker 5: If you look at the measurements. It gives the bits
Speaker 5: in the with it whatever and the hype, but it
Speaker 5: doesn't necessarily give you know, the top of the pyramid
Speaker 5: structure or what I believe is a pyramid. And I
Speaker 5: think any of these rebellious aniels were just mimicking what
Speaker 5: they remembered in their former estake when they got basically
Speaker 5: kicked out and had to dwell here in these earthly
Speaker 5: realms for the most part. So that's anyway, that's my
Speaker 5: six and I'm still discovering more every day. And I
Speaker 5: would say, honestly, it builds the foundation for the narrative
Speaker 5: for so many things, including my entire Seed War project,
Speaker 5: because that is the culmination of it. I'm so glad
Speaker 5: that I came across it because it's that important. I mean,
Speaker 5: everything kind of stems from that, the deception and what
Speaker 5: it looks like they're building everything up to involves deceiving
Speaker 5: you into not believing the Earth is flat, because, like
Speaker 5: of what you have said in so many of your videos,
Speaker 5: for the most part, the people who begin to understand
Speaker 5: the Earth is flat become closer to God not farther away,
Speaker 5: or they become they have a relationship with God for
Speaker 5: the first time in their life. As there's so much
Speaker 5: good fruit born from it, I don't see how it
Speaker 5: could be mistaken, especially since scripture clearly indicates all that.
Speaker 5: And I'm planning on doing a video for that and
Speaker 5: uploading it sometime between now and Monday evening. Oh nice.
Speaker 5: I'm going to do a three part series explaining why
Speaker 5: flat Earth is important, why do we even care? Right?
Speaker 5: And then I'm going to give the evidence from scripture.
Speaker 5: I know other people have done it and spelled it
Speaker 5: all out, but I'm going to do it in my
Speaker 5: video for those who haven't seen it yet. I'm going
Speaker 5: to try to include every scripture there is that indicates
Speaker 5: the world is a flat Earth's model, and then my
Speaker 5: third one will be primarily dedicated to the scientific evidence
Speaker 5: for it, including the ether and everything associated with it outstanding.
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to your book. I'm looking forward to
Speaker 3: your new video series. And once again again before we
Speaker 3: part ways, could you remind the audience where they can
Speaker 3: find your work. And just in addition to that, all
Speaker 3: these will be embedded in the show notes, so you
Speaker 3: can easily find this folks.
Speaker 5: Yes, well, you probably have to use the link in
Speaker 5: our discussion because if you search for my YouTube channel,
Speaker 5: I'm so small still, although I do have almost four
Speaker 5: thousand subscribers in the last thirty days or so. My
Speaker 5: channel is you will Know on YouTube and it's also
Speaker 5: you will know on x and there's other links there
Speaker 5: that can take you to places if you want to
Speaker 5: get as shirt or something to support my side. But
Speaker 5: those are the two main ones where I'm going to
Speaker 5: be posting my stuff and it's mostly my YouTube channel.
Speaker 5: And again it's just you will know, and it's based
Speaker 5: off the biblical version. You will know the truth and
Speaker 5: the truth will set you free, which I believe is
Speaker 5: absolutely correct. All of us listening to this channel believe that,
Speaker 5: or we wouldn't be here heymen.
Speaker 3: And again, folks, just go to the show notes. All
Speaker 3: the links will be there so you can subscribe to
Speaker 3: is YouTube channel. And when you do these type of things,
Speaker 3: make sure you like and you subscribe and hit that bell.
Speaker 3: Someone Robert puts out new stuff, you'll be notified. Algorithms
Speaker 3: can be tricky, and the more people like and do
Speaker 3: things like that, the better chance you have to fall
Speaker 3: in your algorithm. Hey, Robert, it's been an absolute blast.
Speaker 3: What a conversation. The ninety minutes have flown by. But
Speaker 3: as always, before we part ways, could you know I'd
Speaker 3: like to give you the last word.
Speaker 5: Okay. One other thing I wouldn't mind people doing is
Speaker 5: if you want to email me my email if you
Speaker 5: want to put it in the show notes. Also is
Speaker 5: all lowercase r L Clark sixty eight at hotmail dot com,
Speaker 5: and I just had never changed it. I know that
Speaker 5: that email address is five thousand years old, but it
Speaker 5: is what it is. So feel free to contact me
Speaker 5: if there's something on my YouTube channel that you would
Speaker 5: like and it fits my narrative or subject material, I'll
Speaker 5: be happy to answer your questions in a video or
Speaker 5: you know, if you just want to drop in and
Speaker 5: ask me when I'm going to be done with my
Speaker 5: album and push me to get it done, that'd be great.
Speaker 3: There you go. Hey, listen, my sister still has an
Speaker 3: AOL email so yeah, there you go. So hey, hey Robert,
Speaker 3: best of luck and continued success and let's stay in touch.
Speaker 3: And to all the listeners something that Robert brought up.
Speaker 3: If you're a new listener, I really encourage you to
Speaker 3: start with the first episode. It's why the Lie, and
Speaker 3: it really the first ten episodes or so really explain
Speaker 3: flat Earth, why the deception? And then we get into
Speaker 3: some so many great guests. So I encourage you to
Speaker 3: start from the beginning and there you go. Thanks everyone
Speaker 3: for your support, and again check the show notes for
Speaker 3: all Robert's information. For Robert, I'm George God bless you all.
Speaker 3: Have a wonderful week. And until we meet again, my friends,
Speaker 3: we will see you.
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Speaker 4: I know you feel.
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