Speaker 1: Hi, Dave Fraser, Hey, good afternoon, and a happy birthday
Speaker 1: to Chuck.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: I've never met your husband. I feel like most of
Speaker 1: your listeners, you talk about him enough that we feel
Speaker 1: like we know him.
Speaker 2: So our birthday, Chuck, I will send those messages along
Speaker 2: to him and Dave.
Speaker 1: Right out of the choot.
Speaker 2: We have a question, but it relates to the heat
Speaker 2: that we're having right now. A Texter jumped the gun
Speaker 2: and texted Ross Kaminski on the show today to ask,
Speaker 2: why is most of Weld County outside the heat map
Speaker 2: warning on your broadcast? Because it makes it look weird
Speaker 2: because the foothills are in it and Weld County is
Speaker 2: not in it. Why did Weld County get left out?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So, you know the National Weather Service when they
Speaker 1: issue advisories like this and either issue it for an
Speaker 1: entire county or they have zones and they try and
Speaker 1: target the areas that best fit where the message should
Speaker 1: be and put the message today, it's about the potential
Speaker 1: that we could get anywhere from ninety nine to like
Speaker 1: one hundred and one degrees. It be the first time
Speaker 1: this year if the censor at the airport reaches one
Speaker 1: hundred we've been ninety eight ninety nine that's been the
Speaker 1: warmer so far. That was actually on the first day
Speaker 1: of summer, was the ninety nine you're joining us. It
Speaker 1: has to do with basically where the heat will be retained, Mandy,
Speaker 1: and we've talked about this. If you look at that map,
Speaker 1: you'll see that all of Metro Denver is in it,
Speaker 1: but communities south of there over the Palmer Divide are not.
Speaker 1: And it has to do with the heat island where
Speaker 1: the heat will be retained a little longer through the day.
Speaker 1: And obviously you think about the buildings, the concrete, all
Speaker 1: the asphalt, that kind of stuff that retains the heat
Speaker 1: and makes it tough for it to cool off even
Speaker 1: with the setting sun for a few hours. And parts
Speaker 1: of the Front Range includes the foothills, and there is
Speaker 1: a wedge in north and northwestern Weld County where the
Speaker 1: wind direction out of the northwest has got a little
Speaker 1: bit of a downsloping component to it. It may hold
Speaker 1: the temperatures they are up. As you move east of
Speaker 1: I twenty five into Weld County, it becomes a little
Speaker 1: more rural and you don't have that kind of city
Speaker 1: environment over wide areas, and so they don't bake as
Speaker 1: much as you would find in the metro area. And
Speaker 1: like I said, the wind component, the wind component kind
Speaker 1: of keeps the foothills in there. But once you get
Speaker 1: east of the bottom of the foothills, that wind component,
Speaker 1: that heating that downsloping just doesn't exist there. And so
Speaker 1: the threshold is a little lower that the heat or
Speaker 1: the fields like temperature will reach, you know, one hundred degrees.
Speaker 1: And by the way, on a side note, because of
Speaker 1: our dry climate, the heat index, which is a measurement
Speaker 1: of what it feels like outside, is always about five
Speaker 1: degrees lower than the air temperature. So if the temperature
Speaker 1: the temperature right now at DIA is ninety six, but
Speaker 1: it says it feels like ninety one. Now you're going
Speaker 1: to go outside and say it's blazing hot, dad, because
Speaker 1: you're in the direct sunlight. But we just don't have
Speaker 1: the humidity. And we all know the mechanics of sweating.
Speaker 1: When you sweat in a human environment, the moisture is
Speaker 1: not removed from your body, and it causes your body
Speaker 1: to heat more. When you're in a dry environment and
Speaker 1: you sweat, that moisture evaporates, and evaporation is a cooling process,
Speaker 1: and it helps to cool your body just a little bit.
Speaker 1: So even though the air temperature is one thing that
Speaker 1: feels like temperature is lower in this type of situation.
Speaker 1: So when you're.
Speaker 2: Offering a heat advisory, does it have to be it's
Speaker 2: going over one hundred? Feels like because I got this
Speaker 2: text Mandy, I live in Weld County and I'm actually
Speaker 2: outside right now and it's one hundred degrees. We should
Speaker 2: have had a heat advisory. So what kicks in that heat?
Speaker 2: What's the threshold?
Speaker 1: It's basically, here's the thing, and this is kind of
Speaker 1: opening up Tandeller's box. It's not related to the heat index.
Speaker 1: It is related to the air temperature. It's related to
Speaker 1: it's related to stagnant air, lack of wind, the fact
Speaker 1: that you know, we don't reach one hundred degrees all
Speaker 1: that often here in Denver. It hasn't happened a lot.
Speaker 1: You know, there are years where we never get to
Speaker 1: one hundred degrees during the summer. And so the argument
Speaker 1: is there's a subjective nature to when to trigger when
Speaker 1: to not, and he's in the environment we're in today's
Speaker 1: it's just a heads up if you will that if
Speaker 1: you're going to be outside for prolonged periods today, you've
Speaker 1: got to take breaks. You've got to find shade, you've
Speaker 1: got to stay hydrated, wear loose, light colored clothing. And
Speaker 1: that goes to the workers who are out about making
Speaker 1: sure that they're taking breaks, because it is at a
Speaker 1: point where, you know, you don't want somebody to overexert
Speaker 1: themselves and become, you know, sick with heat illness. Right,
Speaker 1: so we're you know, there's kind of a threshold there,
Speaker 1: but you could argue that like it's one hundred and
Speaker 1: five and two soon or one hundred and eighty two soon,
Speaker 1: and so the people living there are the same as
Speaker 1: people living here. It's just a matter of are you
Speaker 1: used to it? And that's the argument that is played
Speaker 1: into this. So exactly, it's a little bit of there's
Speaker 1: a little bit of wiggle room as to you know, hey,
Speaker 1: we don't get that hot that often. Maybe we should
Speaker 1: just keep binkle of heads up.
Speaker 2: Well, Dave roz Kaminski's in the studio with me, and
Speaker 2: he's got a weather question for you.
Speaker 1: Hi, David sure Russ, Hey, I want to follow up on.
Speaker 3: Something you just said. So well, you know, I've got
Speaker 3: a sister in law who lives in Phoenix, and it's
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighteen or something else, and you, Dave,
Speaker 3: you just talked about getting used to it, and I
Speaker 3: was wondering, do bodies actually get used to it? Or
Speaker 3: is it sort of a psychological thing. I've been through
Speaker 3: it enough and it doesn't bother me.
Speaker 1: Die.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I didn't die.
Speaker 1: I'm still here.
Speaker 3: It is fine. Or does over time do people's bodies
Speaker 3: really react differently?
Speaker 1: So maybe you live somewhere hut for a.
Speaker 3: While and your body doesn't react until ninety five degrees,
Speaker 3: when somebody else's body would react the same way at
Speaker 3: ninety degrees.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll answer this. I'll give you an example, and
Speaker 1: it ties right into your question about your family member
Speaker 1: down in Phoenix. So I my wife's family lives in
Speaker 1: the Phoenix and Tucson area. My son moved to Tucson
Speaker 1: a little more than three years ago to attend the
Speaker 1: University of Arizona, and he lives down there. My son
Speaker 1: grew up here. My son grew up in winters. He
Speaker 1: loves skiing, he loves Colorado's climate. He's been back to
Speaker 1: visit us sometimes in the fallen complain it feels too
Speaker 1: cold and we look at them like you're crazy, and
Speaker 1: herst Yeah. Her sisters will come up to visit, and
Speaker 1: my wife is is I don't want to say cheap,
Speaker 1: but she's little singy on the thermometer. Like we during
Speaker 1: the winter, our our thermostad in the house during the
Speaker 1: winter is sixty four and during the summer the eighth
Speaker 1: doesn't kick on till eighty. Oh we will in your house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but when our family members from Phoenix come up, I
Speaker 1: do rocks think that they get acclimated to it and
Speaker 1: they know how to deal with that kind of heat.
Speaker 1: Because my sister will all come up and you know
Speaker 1: that heat won't kick onto sixty four. She's walking around
Speaker 1: in a shawl like she's said, you know, die of prostite.
Speaker 2: That's hilarious. Let me ask you this, Let me ask
Speaker 2: you this question. I got some good questions before you
Speaker 2: even came on today, so I want to get these in. Hey, Mandy,
Speaker 2: question for Dave June seventeenth, A tornado touched down in
Speaker 2: oh dag Navity just updated. A tornado touchdown near Divide, Colorado. Historically,
Speaker 2: it's been extremely rare for this to occur. Sow near
Speaker 2: the mountains and idea why that happened.
Speaker 1: It's a thunderstorm that had an up draft on it.
Speaker 1: I saw the pictures. It does happen. It is rare.
Speaker 1: It is odd because the atmosphere there is not as
Speaker 1: tall as it is down over the east eastern plane.
Speaker 1: You know, you want the photostorm to stretch out and
Speaker 1: to grow vertically to get kind of that strength to
Speaker 1: be able to create a tornado. But there is what
Speaker 1: we call low top convection that can do that, and
Speaker 1: we have seen evidence of that. There's been many instances
Speaker 1: of tornadoes being spotted in around Pike's Peak because of
Speaker 1: the wind direction and the storm's coming up over that
Speaker 1: higher terrain as they come up the backside near Divide
Speaker 1: and those areas. So it can happen, and it has happened.
Speaker 2: So what are we looking at in terms of how
Speaker 2: many days of oppressive heat do we have? And as
Speaker 2: I was driving to work today, I was looking around.
Speaker 2: Everything is still really green right now, which is nice
Speaker 2: because I don't have to worry about you know, super
Speaker 2: like aust the chards, fire danger. But what are we
Speaker 2: looking at for the next few days and when will
Speaker 2: we get a little bit of a reprieve.
Speaker 1: The little replieve comes tomorrow. Our forecast is in the
Speaker 1: low nineties. There will be more clouds than there is
Speaker 1: about a twenty to thirty percent chance of scattered storms
Speaker 1: in the afternoon. Now like the last few days where
Speaker 1: we had some microverse damage with trees down across the area,
Speaker 1: especially in Centennial, that's attributed to quickly rising and drying
Speaker 1: thunderstorms to collapse and throw a gust of wind at
Speaker 1: the ground that hits a localized area and blasts out
Speaker 1: in a kind of a circular direction, it can cause damage.
Speaker 1: We've seen that. I would say that dusty wind tomorrow
Speaker 1: could be possible with the storm, but because of the
Speaker 1: cloud cover will be down to about ninety two to
Speaker 1: ninety three. Then Friday has a better chance of rain.
Speaker 1: We're in the low eighties Friday, Saturday back to ninety
Speaker 1: ninety one. Sunday, Monday dry, and then back to low
Speaker 1: eighties again with more rain coming on Wednesday and Thursday
Speaker 1: of next week. Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday of next week.
Speaker 1: So the green you're seeing out there, we are getting
Speaker 1: intervals of rain at the right time after bouts of
Speaker 1: hot weather. I love the mixture it's perfect is and you.
Speaker 3: Know we can.
Speaker 2: All I can say is, Dave, it's not Japan hot
Speaker 2: and a humid So whatever we're dealing with, I can
Speaker 2: take it.
Speaker 1: I'm ready.
Speaker 2: Put me in coach. I'm ready to go.
Speaker 1: Yep, Dave Fraser.
Speaker 2: Last question from our texter. By the way, I have
Speaker 2: several Texters who are are very upset about your wife
Speaker 2: not kicking the air on until eighty I believe we're
Speaker 2: going to start a GoFundMe to provide the Fraser household
Speaker 2: with air conditioning at a more civilized temperature. But well,
Speaker 2: last question ask Dave, who makes the decision feels like
Speaker 2: a person from Anchorage or Saudi Arabia, And I think
Speaker 2: that kind of goes to what you're talking about. Depending
Speaker 2: on where you're from, depends.
Speaker 1: On what it feels like. Yeah, it's Ross, It's you know,
Speaker 1: it's the same thing Ross pointed out. It's arbitrary. If
Speaker 1: you're used to a certain climate and a certain way
Speaker 1: of things, you do kind of acclimate to that environment,
Speaker 1: and then when you move it takes a little while.
Speaker 1: My son's a perfect example. He should be able to
Speaker 1: stand cold windshills below zero, but he comes up here
Speaker 1: during the winter. Now after living in Arizona Promost four
Speaker 1: years and he complains about it being cold. We're like
Speaker 1: to go back to Arizona. Yep, there you go, Dave Fraser.
Speaker 2: I'll talk to you again soon, my friend. Thank you.
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