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<v Speaker 1>Hell, everybody to the facilities of the iHeartMedia Megaplexis is

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<v Speaker 1>Dick Gabriel. This is the state wide edition of The

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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Inside. He heard Mark Pope today with Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Leach here, Nick mangeone with Darren Hendrick and some of

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<v Speaker 1>the UK women. After that heartbreaking lost to Kansas date,

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<v Speaker 1>but what a game and what a game is the

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats beat Illinois tonight. We'll talk with a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>guys who were up there. Jeff Picoro, who covers football

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<v Speaker 1>for the UK network but covers the cash for WTVQ,

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<v Speaker 1>and Lee K. Howard from wk WAIT to Billy relaigives

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<v Speaker 1>here be a part of the state wide BBI, The

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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Insider Pikeville to Paducah. You know the drill,

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<v Speaker 1>and it seems like it's becoming a drill with Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Pecorro that we don't reach him right away. Remember the

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<v Speaker 1>one night he called us at like seven minutes to

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the hour.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I forgot.

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<v Speaker 1>We tease him now because half the time when we

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<v Speaker 1>can't reach him. When he used to carry a briefcase,

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<v Speaker 1>he would leave his phone in his briefcase. Didn't do

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of good there. Now that he's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in TV news again, he needs to keep it in

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<v Speaker 1>a hip pocket.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, my phone's never on Ringer, it's always on Vibe,

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<v Speaker 3>So if I'm not in this, it's not on my person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I silenced mom when I'm working in

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<v Speaker 1>the garage on the radio show, and I always forget

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<v Speaker 1>to put it back or I'm you know, doing a

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<v Speaker 1>baseball game or whatever. So anyway, we'll we'll soldier on.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we'll hear from him, maybe we won't, but we

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<v Speaker 1>will contact leak as usually pretty good too. Anyway, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk first about Kentucky Illinois. Did you pick the Wildcats?

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<v Speaker 1>I think no. I did pick them in my bracket,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just wasn't sure because Illinois is better than

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was. When I first looked at the brackets,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, well, But then I started doing research on him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, oh man, they're good on the boards,

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<v Speaker 1>They've got some talent, got some draft picks, got some

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<v Speaker 1>draft picks.

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<v Speaker 2>They got a visas brother out there too.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. But Kentucky Billy, I thought, may have played

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<v Speaker 1>its best game of the year all things considered.

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<v Speaker 2>Best defensive game. I think there's no doubt question.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, you're right, because offense, they put up

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred million points against Alabama and Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's amazing, and they've beaten Florida this year,

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<v Speaker 3>who looks like the team to beat in the NCAA tournament.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was it was a great game. Defensively, you

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<v Speaker 3>saw the impact of Lamont Butler. I mean for him

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<v Speaker 3>to score zero points against Troy and then ten in

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<v Speaker 3>the first half in that game versus Illinois. But that's

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<v Speaker 3>not why he was at his best. It was defensively

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<v Speaker 3>and it was he was phenomenal. There was no doubt

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<v Speaker 3>about it. There's a reason why the Illinois coach said

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<v Speaker 3>afterwards that Kentucky will go as far as Lamont Butler

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<v Speaker 3>takes them.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we all know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I did pick Kentucky to win.

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<v Speaker 3>I've actually got them winning against Tennessee in my bracket

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<v Speaker 3>and then losing to Houston in the Elite eight. But

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<v Speaker 3>my expectations have him met, Dick. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 3>I said a minus earlier. He did a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>weeks ago when I gave Pope grade.

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<v Speaker 2>It's now gone up to an a.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, for Pope to put this roster together in

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<v Speaker 3>a matter of weeks to make the Sweet sixteen, and

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<v Speaker 3>to do it with the pressure of BYU and Arkansas

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<v Speaker 3>both making the Sweet sixteen. People say that's not on Pope,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's no pressure there. I'm telling you there was.

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<v Speaker 3>And for Pope to get it done, it saved us

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<v Speaker 3>a long summer of sports talk radio, of calls and

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<v Speaker 3>well at times. Yeah, but this is just a very

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<v Speaker 3>very gratifying way.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is very satisfying. But you get the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that the players aren't happy to stop here.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, they were.

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<v Speaker 3>Loose too, you know, they were much looser I felt

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<v Speaker 3>like in the game versus Illinois than they were.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh have you ever had that stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>I have not, I have you have?

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<v Speaker 1>It's awful. Oh it's awful. Now, I gotta say, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I just put cold milk. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it fruit on whatever. But I mean, I like shredded wheat,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd read about this stuff, yeah, and I'd read

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<v Speaker 1>what what what they found out? It's it's better for

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<v Speaker 1>you than just regular old shredded we were, It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of nutrients. In it. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of good stuff in it, right, So I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's good. And I like cereal and all.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. I tried it once. You know, they come to

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<v Speaker 1>these big biscuits and I told them, I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't eat this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's tasty.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the way I ate it, right, the way

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<v Speaker 1>I ate it. It was like wallpaper paste. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, oh my god, you know. Uh, And

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<v Speaker 1>so I chucked it out in the you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a wooded backyard and put it out, put it

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<v Speaker 1>out there for the wild animals. You don't hope they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't hurt any of them. But uh but now I

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<v Speaker 1>hear that you need And I'm not going to do

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<v Speaker 1>this because I'm not a warm milk kind of guy,

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<v Speaker 1>but I understand. I like hot cereal and this could

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<v Speaker 1>be like hot cereal and you know, a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>sugar or honey or whatever. So yeah, I'll give it that.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of reminded me in a weird way. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not the same stuff. But when we many years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>when a group of us went to China, we were

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<v Speaker 1>in a hotel in Hong Kong that had a great

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<v Speaker 1>breakfast buffet. I mean, great, they're big on breakfast over there,

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<v Speaker 1>but they believe it or not, they serve salad for breakfast.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big thing over there. I didn't touch it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I like hot cereal and they had it. So

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<v Speaker 1>I get some. I like grits, I like oatmeal. So

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<v Speaker 1>I get this stuff and it was awful, and I

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<v Speaker 1>come to find out later it was basically what we

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<v Speaker 1>would call gruel, right or porridge. Well, I'm like nope.

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<v Speaker 1>After two bites, I'm like nope. So later on I

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<v Speaker 1>see my teachers over there, my karate teacher, and this

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<v Speaker 1>guy is half a head shorter than you. It can

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<v Speaker 1>eat like a trucker, takes his time but really savors

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<v Speaker 1>his meals. Right. So anyway, he's over there and he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a bold of this stuff and he's loading it up,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's loading it up with cold vegetables. And I thought, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff's a carrying agent. And I guess we've min

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<v Speaker 1>exist the same thing. And he said, of course, he

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in a man, I grew up on this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, good, hey, all you want take it, take it.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyhow, if that's if that was the secret, weapon

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<v Speaker 1>for the bigs, and now Mark Pope says he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to have it good on you.

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<v Speaker 2>It does look like a show down, a brick of nothingness,

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<v Speaker 2>like if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Can get it, trust me on Amazon, Well you can

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<v Speaker 1>get anything on him.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of the top five cereals on Amazon today apparently,

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<v Speaker 3>now Tucky effect. Think about the Google searches right that

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<v Speaker 3>this cereal has gotten in this state and how many

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<v Speaker 3>people have ordered it. I mean, people are little boys

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<v Speaker 3>and girls are going to be eating this cereal this

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<v Speaker 3>week as we anticipate fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Still in local television, I would have, knowing what I know,

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't be me, but I'd have somebody on camera

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<v Speaker 1>doing something well, of course, And how about the assistant

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<v Speaker 1>going out, Maggie Davis, if you're listening, that's right, Ma,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see you with a bowl of We've

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<v Speaker 1>been X in your lap.

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<v Speaker 3>But to go to an international store in Milwaukee to

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<v Speaker 3>bring a little home to Amari Williams, a guy that's

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<v Speaker 3>fighting back and found it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's impressive, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not I've never had warm milk before, not even

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<v Speaker 3>as a kid, not every even as a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>I like milk. I eat milk with dinner, but I

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<v Speaker 2>really ever had warm.

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<v Speaker 1>Milk, glass of Big Boy juice with dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Whole milk.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, wow, my son's the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to grow big and strong.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you've had hot chocolate, but that's had hot chocolate.

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<v Speaker 1>But that ain't the same. Coffee, that ain't the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Never really never, just hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Milk and cereal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well and again in China, and when we were

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<v Speaker 1>in a small village and eating breakfast at a modest hotel,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was okay, a little usterear and this

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<v Speaker 1>waitress came out with a big tray of hot milk,

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<v Speaker 1>glasses full of hot milk because they thought that's what

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<v Speaker 1>Americans liked hot. Yeah, and they heard that that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we ate for breakfast. And so I said, no, thank you, bud.

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<v Speaker 1>And so she turns to leave and I grab on him,

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<v Speaker 1>hang on a second, you know, because I was drinking coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I'll put something out my coffee, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I'm not a hot milk guy either.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the poorly traveled man that I am, I thought

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<v Speaker 3>it was just strictly beans on toast. In England, Dick,

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<v Speaker 3>but it seems like they've.

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<v Speaker 1>Got you can get that.

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<v Speaker 2>Laporless cereal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, but no when I had fish and chips

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<v Speaker 1>in a restaurant run by a couple of guys in

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<v Speaker 1>the Middle East, so you know, you can get what

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<v Speaker 1>you want. You can get what you can sure. Anyhow,

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<v Speaker 1>So back to what we were discussing before, Yes, Defense

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<v Speaker 1>and Kobe Brea and I love this story. Once they

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<v Speaker 1>got through the weabineing stories that Pope told about. And

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<v Speaker 1>you remember that Old Miss game. I was stunned. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the Big Blue Nation was shocked at how poorly

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<v Speaker 1>they played, lack of effort. They almost seemed disinterested that night,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on the road, almost came out, punched him

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<v Speaker 1>into John and he said, okay, thank you, May I

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<v Speaker 1>have another? And he said, you know you heard him tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>said Brea threw himself into drills the next day. That

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<v Speaker 1>told me everything I needed to hear.

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<v Speaker 3>A good Old Miss team that just throttled Iowa State

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<v Speaker 3>to get to the sweet sixteen. So it's it's amazing

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<v Speaker 3>SEC's got seven teams in the tournament. I'm sure we'll

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<v Speaker 3>talk about that a little bit more later, but listen,

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<v Speaker 3>I think the numbers were Kentucky went from that Old

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<v Speaker 3>Miss game, they were at one twelve in the Ken

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<v Speaker 3>Palm and they made it all the way down to

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<v Speaker 3>forty five. Yes, since then, and that is something Mark

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<v Speaker 3>Pope said in the postgame that he has never seen

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<v Speaker 3>no to be able to have that growth mindset. That's

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<v Speaker 3>something he touched on tonight as well, is that these

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<v Speaker 3>guys are willing to learn, They're willing to do the

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<v Speaker 3>little thing to get better every day. And guys like

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<v Speaker 1>When Chandler rose from two steps beyond the arc, are

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, And think about them amassing twenty minute wins this

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<v Speaker 3>and to do it without Jackson Robinson for half of

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<v Speaker 3>It's just incredible that they've been able to play their

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<v Speaker 2>And that's now, Yeah, that's now.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's a lot of things you can't control, especially

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<v Speaker 3>Pope offense going down with injury and these guys finally

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<v Speaker 3>seem to pick it up. Colin Chandler steps up. But

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<v Speaker 3>it allows o Way to stay at his natural position.

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<v Speaker 3>It allows Kobe Brea to come in without or with

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<v Speaker 3>trickle down effect in a lot of ways. And if

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<v Speaker 3>we could did Amari to dunk the basketball, this would

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<v Speaker 1>It was great. A caller brought that up and Mark

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<v Speaker 1>because how many times Bud he just dunk it, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But speaking of Chandler, though I rewatched the first half today, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was one plane in particular where there were

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<v Speaker 1>two plays I want to talk about. Number one, Brea

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<v Speaker 1>hits a three, okay, or it might have been a jump

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<v Speaker 1>a huge time. Chandler set the pick the screen that

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<v Speaker 1>he screened Bray as guy and Bray just circles around

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<v Speaker 1>and bang you know. And when you listen to Cameron

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<v Speaker 1>Mills told this story many times. He thought he understood.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, when he got to college, he realized he

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<v Speaker 1>knew nothing about it. And I got to think Chandler,

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<v Speaker 1>who's coming off two years of not playing as all,

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<v Speaker 1>had to learn that skill and he did. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it's the little things that that kid does, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the three pointers are great, but it's little

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<v Speaker 1>things like deflections. The other one was And everyone's talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this, but as I'm watching the game, I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>mental note, I got to talk about this with Billy

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's up ten, what momentums shifted second half and Illinois's

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<v Speaker 1>doing some things. I'm about to go down and make

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<v Speaker 1>it an eight point or seven point game, and Lamarch

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<v Speaker 1>sneaks in from behind and makes a steal all the

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<v Speaker 1>sneaky steel in the scars. One to me, that was

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know it was the turning point, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the biggest turning points of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the biggest one of the second half. There were

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<v Speaker 1>a lot in the first half.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you're right about momentum. I think at that time

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<v Speaker 3>it was just chipping away, chipping away. It was after

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<v Speaker 3>Kobe went on his own ten oh run I think

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<v Speaker 3>in that game where he went three jumper, three jumper, amazing,

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<v Speaker 3>So that that came at a huge time, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Lamont to have that tourney experience that maybe has been

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<v Speaker 3>missing in years past, and also on this team if

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<v Speaker 3>you exclude Lamarch, so he's just been able to bring

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<v Speaker 3>a dimension to this team and they play with joy.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think that you absolutely can see that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you mentioned Colin Chandler and Kobe Brea. Kobe's

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<v Speaker 3>looking to shoot when he's coming off those screens too,

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not that he wasn't before, but I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like it comes with much more confidence. And it's interesting

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<v Speaker 3>that Kentucky was able to hold on because I had

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<v Speaker 3>it locked and loaded in the chamber, Dick. If Kentucky

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<v Speaker 3>lost a game, it was going to be all about

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<v Speaker 3>the basketballs. You know, about this non uniformity and these

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<v Speaker 3>PSI levels, and which is Kobe saying that he's having

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<v Speaker 3>to adjust the way that he shoots to adjust.

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<v Speaker 1>With these bad fuketball.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just there's so much money going on, and we

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<v Speaker 3>saw the first round this year was historically low scoring averages.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to get into it. Is this the

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<v Speaker 2>death of the Cinderella with nil? Please?

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<v Speaker 3>Jay Williams, steven A. Smith, you got a gas back

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<v Speaker 3>about something every single day. I think that's a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a hot take. But I think there is something

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<v Speaker 1>I fully agree, And I was stunned when I saw that, because,

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of years with regard to NCAA properties,

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<v Speaker 1>NCAA sponsorships and stuff, I'm amazed that there isn't an

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<v Speaker 1>NCAA sanctioned via advertising, sponsorship, whatever you call it basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>Why aren't they a lot? Why isn't the same ball

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<v Speaker 1>being used at every location for men and women at

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<v Speaker 1>a hefty price? You know right that that you know

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<v Speaker 1>they can recoup the exactly. I was amazed that that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the case. But uh, I mean you're a baseball fan,

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<v Speaker 1>as am I how many times you've heard guys complaining

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<v Speaker 1>about the baseballs? Yeah, ranking two tightly or not tightly enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, then they can throw it away. They just throw

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<v Speaker 3>it to the side and they get a new ball, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But supposedly this year's ballder making them a different

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<v Speaker 1>way in a different place, and you know they're storing

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<v Speaker 1>him in a cold place. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's like Saint John's missed so many layups in

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<v Speaker 3>that game versus Arkansas. Yeah, that's not characteristic of them

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<v Speaker 3>that I think there is something to the over inflation

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<v Speaker 3>of these balls.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh could be. Yeah, call Tom get Tom Brady online. Listen.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody disposes of their cell phone by slamming it on

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<v Speaker 3>the ground, Dick, It's just natural practice, don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Get We talked about that on my local show. Right

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<v Speaker 1>when it happened. You were in the studio, but that

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<v Speaker 1>was before Brady was before he moved it, Damp, exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>You were on my side back then. God, before we

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<v Speaker 1>get to the break through, and I said this to

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<v Speaker 1>you before we went on the air. You gotta chip

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<v Speaker 1>your cap to Cali Perry for pulling his team together,

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<v Speaker 1>which he did at Kentucky's several times more often than not. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but I firmly believe after rewatching the second half I

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<v Speaker 1>did that this afternoon he had better athletes than Saint John's.

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<v Speaker 1>That to me, what was the difference. I mean when

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<v Speaker 1>it came down to players making plays. And I watched

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<v Speaker 1>that whole series on you know, Redstorm Rising, and I

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<v Speaker 1>watched several Saint John's games, and it was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Big East basketball. It was tough, it was grinding out,

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<v Speaker 1>but they just had better athletes and they played well together.

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<v Speaker 1>Calipari's team and.

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<v Speaker 2>They're playing a lot better as of late.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Jonas Ago is a guy that averaged five

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<v Speaker 2>He's averaging eighteen I think right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, when they lost you and I talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this before, when they lost Boogie Flann, they got better.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. They that forced them to just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>figure out a different way to do business. But to

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<v Speaker 1>his credit and theirs, now that he's back, I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>are they going to hit that wall? And all of

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<v Speaker 1>a suddenly we got to give the ball to Boogie

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<v Speaker 1>every time.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, he's he's playing well.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a player, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>And with thero out that kind of you know, defines

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<v Speaker 3>the roles even more. Yes, Arkansas starts zero to five

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<v Speaker 3>in conference play.

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<v Speaker 1>About that.

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<v Speaker 3>Cali Perry comes in, raises his eyebrow as he walks

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<v Speaker 3>onto the upp Arena court and pulls off the upset

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<v Speaker 3>and there just been a different team since then. I

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<v Speaker 3>think you got a lot of buy in. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>as much as I hate to admit it, I think

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<v Speaker 3>you look at the situation from a broad perspective and

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<v Speaker 3>you have to think that both sides won the breakup.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I agree, but when you look at his body

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<v Speaker 1>of work just here, much less at his other stops.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he deserves its deserving in all of me,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody was mad at him, and I've told you this before.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, so much of this can be summed up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm mad and someone needs to be punished. And

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue Nation wanted John Caliperi to be punished

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<v Speaker 1>because they were upset over what's happened over the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years. He had some really tough breaks with injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>I still say, if May doesn't hit that shot for

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina, he's still at Kentucky. And a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people believe if he runs the table in twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what happened after that, he's still at Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's sports. It's fickle. We know this, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't care, we still love it. That's the way it works.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't think Cal has the success if he's

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<v Speaker 3>at Kentucky this year. I think that a change of

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<v Speaker 3>argue with that. You know, Cal is at his bass doubted,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's been doubted by this entire state. He's got

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<v Speaker 3>Rick Patino in his pocket nine of the last eleven matches.

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<v Speaker 3>But not only that, Dick, he beat Bill self and

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<v Speaker 3>Rick Patino to get to the sweet sixteen. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got to give the man his couldn't agree, but

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think if he would have stayed at Kentucky

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<v Speaker 3>it had been the same thing that we're seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. I agree with you, because well,

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<v Speaker 1>it just would have been a different collection of players.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the guys would have been the same. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when he digs in and he's stubborn, that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. So anyway, all right, we're gonna step out.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll try to get JEFPI KORL. But I have a

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<v Speaker 2>Breath in the briefcase.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but Lee K Howards gonna join us. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the UK women, maybe talk a little

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<v Speaker 1>UK baseball as well, and the portals open open for business.

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<v Speaker 1>How about that Michigan player already left. How about that

422
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<v Speaker 1>they got a game to play. Man, it's Pippin's son.

423
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<v Speaker 1>I think they've got to change the calendar. They've got

424
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<v Speaker 1>to they got to work it out. I know some

425
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<v Speaker 1>schools are on quarters. Yeah, well, I would think if

426
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<v Speaker 1>the coaches have anything to say about it. But you

427
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<v Speaker 1>know they've got it. You know, they got to protect

428
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<v Speaker 1>the bowl games, they gotta protect the NC tournament. Well, anyway,

429
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<v Speaker 1>when they put us in charge, we'll figure it out.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

431
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<v Speaker 1>We're back in just a minute on the state wide

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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Insider. Well, JEFPA, carls Steell m I A.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll we'll talk with Lee K. Howard in a

434
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<v Speaker 1>few minutes. You ever mentioned that George Foreman died? Did

435
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<v Speaker 1>you ever see the fights? I mean you you've got

436
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<v Speaker 1>it's all out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I'm a student of history. I think

438
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<v Speaker 3>he was featured a little bit in the PBS Muhammad

439
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<v Speaker 3>Ali documentary, which I love fabulous. Yeah, but mainly, I

440
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<v Speaker 3>mean I'm young enough to know him more as the

441
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<v Speaker 3>grill guy, of course than the fighting.

442
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<v Speaker 1>But fine espan every down runs those ones those great fights,

443
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<v Speaker 1>Ali Frasier informing and all that. But I heard him

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<v Speaker 1>explain why the grill took off, why it became so popular.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to know, because I have one, and I

446
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<v Speaker 2>treat it like a child. In college, it was, I mean,

447
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<v Speaker 2>with I.

448
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<v Speaker 1>Know, short on time he was doing. It was an infomercial, right,

449
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<v Speaker 1>these people you know, sold them on. You know, he

450
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<v Speaker 1>makes some money. We got these grills, and here's how

451
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<v Speaker 1>it works. And he said it was stretching into its

452
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<v Speaker 1>third hour and they just hardly anyone was calling and

453
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<v Speaker 1>weren't moving any product. And he said, and I got hungry,

454
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<v Speaker 1>he said, And I look down and there's this prop.

455
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<v Speaker 1>It's a big plate of cheeseburgers. You know how they

456
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<v Speaker 1>have it right in front of the grill, and you know, yeah,

457
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<v Speaker 1>I fat for you. Yeah, And he said, somebody else

458
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<v Speaker 1>is talking. He just reached down and grabbed a cheeseburger

459
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<v Speaker 1>and started eating it. He said, I wasn't trying to

460
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<v Speaker 1>demonstrate anything. I was just hungry. And the phones lit up.

461
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<v Speaker 1>He starts eating a cheeseburger or two, and the next

462
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<v Speaker 1>thing you know, they can't handle all the phone traffic,

463
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<v Speaker 1>and the George Foreman grill was off and running to

464
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<v Speaker 1>people like me and you. Oh yeah, I had one

465
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<v Speaker 1>for the longest time. But it worked simply because it

466
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<v Speaker 1>might have eventually worked. But when Big George grabbed that

467
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<v Speaker 1>burger and shoved it in his choppers, a legend was born,

468
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<v Speaker 1>so reborn.

469
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<v Speaker 2>So the real celebrity endorsement, it was just started with

470
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<v Speaker 2>George Foreman.

471
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<v Speaker 4>One of them.

472
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<v Speaker 2>And then he gets to name the grill after itself,

473
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<v Speaker 2>and then you leave a legacy.

474
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<v Speaker 1>Whoever decided it wasn't quite as great as Nike given

475
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<v Speaker 1>all their money to Michael Jordan in stead of spreading

476
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<v Speaker 1>it out right, you know, but it's up there, brother,

477
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<v Speaker 1>all right, when we come back, we'll talk more.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Lee K. Howard was in Milwaukee. It's the state wide

480
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<v Speaker 1>edition of the Big Blue.

481
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<v Speaker 2>You have a briefcase that's right.

482
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<v Speaker 1>From Pikeville to Paduca. It is the state wide edition

483
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<v Speaker 1>of the Big Blue Insider. Let us join one of

484
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<v Speaker 1>the road warriors who drove to Milwaukee and back. Several

485
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<v Speaker 1>media people did that. I always respect that, having made

486
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<v Speaker 1>trips like that myself back in the day. Mister Lee K.

487
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<v Speaker 1>Howard from WKYT, how are you, sir?

488
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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing well. I'm well rested and ready to go

489
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<v Speaker 4>to Indy at this point, I think.

490
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's less than half the drive, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>From here to my Indian cead of Milwaukee. I was

492
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<v Speaker 1>in Milwaukee on my twenty fifth birthday and I think

493
00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I interviewed Junior Bridgeman. I'm pretty sure I did, but

494
00:23:32.519 --> 00:23:35.680
<v Speaker 1>that's a story for another night. Yeah, But anyhow, Billy

495
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<v Speaker 1>and I were just talking lee k about all the

496
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<v Speaker 1>different ways Kentucky excelled in that game, especially defense. I mean,

497
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<v Speaker 1>you were right there. I saw one of the pictures

498
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<v Speaker 1>you tweeted. You had a pretty good look at it.

499
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<v Speaker 1>But what was going through your mind as you watched

500
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<v Speaker 1>that game unfold, knowing how dangerous Illinois was?

501
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<v Speaker 4>You know the thing that impressed me right from the jump.

502
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<v Speaker 4>You could tell that Kentucky was the more relaxed team,

503
00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:03.240
<v Speaker 4>and because of that, they were the more they were,

504
00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:05.440
<v Speaker 4>the more aggressive team. They were, the aggressor of the

505
00:24:05.599 --> 00:24:07.839
<v Speaker 4>entire time. And the thing about you know, you look

506
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<v Speaker 4>at the fourteen turnovers that they forced. All fourteen were

507
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<v Speaker 4>steals and you don't normally see that usually when when

508
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<v Speaker 4>a team has, you know, fourteen turnovers, you can count

509
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<v Speaker 4>on a couple of them being a you know, an

510
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<v Speaker 4>unforced turnover. They dribble the ball off their foot, they

511
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<v Speaker 4>make a bad pass and it deflects out of bounds.

512
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<v Speaker 4>But Kentucky literally sotle the ball from them fourteen times.

513
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<v Speaker 4>And so to me, that's what kind of stood out

514
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<v Speaker 4>to me. Because we knew going into it that Illinois

515
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<v Speaker 4>had the size advantage. What I think we didn't give

516
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<v Speaker 4>enough credit to was Kentucky had the speed advantage. You

517
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<v Speaker 4>know that sec speed was something that gave Illinois some trouble.

518
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<v Speaker 4>And to me, defense, you know, there's there's plenty of sayings,

519
00:24:50.839 --> 00:24:52.839
<v Speaker 4>but the one you know, defense leads to offense. I

520
00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:56.920
<v Speaker 4>mean it truly did, and that that to me. The steals,

521
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<v Speaker 4>fourteen steals is what stood out to me. On defense.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to be honest with you, I knew there

523
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<v Speaker 1>were a bunch. I didn't know all the turnovers were steals.

524
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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've ever heard of that that many

525
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<v Speaker 1>double digit turnovers and they were all steals. That's remarkable,

526
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<v Speaker 1>every one of them. Wow Wow. And then we were

527
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<v Speaker 1>talking about it, you know how Brea cranked up his

528
00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:23.440
<v Speaker 1>defensive game. His offense has always been there Chandler, you know,

529
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<v Speaker 1>doing little things coming off the bench. The Kentucky bench

530
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<v Speaker 1>was magnificent, wasn't it.

531
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<v Speaker 4>It really was, you know, And I'll be the first

532
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<v Speaker 4>to admit the last part of the SEC schedule, I

533
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<v Speaker 4>was just like most people, a little bit frustrated with

534
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<v Speaker 4>some of the playing times, some of the minutes that

535
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<v Speaker 4>some of those bench guys were getting. And they were

536
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<v Speaker 4>having to do that in a way because of some

537
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<v Speaker 4>of the injuries that whether the player was playing or

538
00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:52.319
<v Speaker 4>just dealing with an injury, you know, didn't have the

539
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<v Speaker 4>minutes that they could. So we were getting all these

540
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<v Speaker 4>bench minutes. Well, it's certainly paying off now. And I

541
00:25:57.480 --> 00:25:59.599
<v Speaker 4>mean Colin Chandler is the perfect example of a kid

542
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<v Speaker 4>who's own exponentially as far as his confidence. I mean,

543
00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:04.720
<v Speaker 4>a kid to step up to take a logo shot

544
00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:07.519
<v Speaker 4>early in the shot clock shows sure where he is

545
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<v Speaker 4>at this point. But even you know, I know, Travis

546
00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:13.000
<v Speaker 4>Perry didn't play in that game yesterday, but Trent Noah

547
00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:16.160
<v Speaker 4>came off the bench. He played about the amount of

548
00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:18.480
<v Speaker 4>minutes you should expect a freshman to play at this

549
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<v Speaker 4>point in the season. Ansley Almonor comes off plays a

550
00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:24.960
<v Speaker 4>couple good minutes hits a three. I mean, if they

551
00:26:25.039 --> 00:26:28.000
<v Speaker 4>can get a good you know, run from their bench

552
00:26:28.319 --> 00:26:30.799
<v Speaker 4>every game, that's kind of the key. And I think

553
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<v Speaker 4>that's kind of what Pope was building toward, whether he

554
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<v Speaker 4>meant to or not, because of the injuries, it kind

555
00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:39.759
<v Speaker 4>of forced his hand that direction. And so yeah, any

556
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<v Speaker 4>night you can have Kobe Bray a step up and

557
00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:45.240
<v Speaker 4>have a big game. But when you've got one of

558
00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:47.799
<v Speaker 4>those bench guys stepping up, and whether or not it's

559
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<v Speaker 4>in the scoring column or defense or what you know,

560
00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:53.240
<v Speaker 4>really contributing, it makes it makes a huge difference.

561
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<v Speaker 3>Uh, Lee, do you think that the Weeda bicks and

562
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<v Speaker 3>hot milk are the key for Kentucky to make the

563
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<v Speaker 3>Final four this year?

564
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<v Speaker 4>I think it's got to be Billy. I think that

565
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:06.519
<v Speaker 4>has to be the key. I think we all learned

566
00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:10.400
<v Speaker 4>about weed to bix last night. I actually asked Pope

567
00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:12.519
<v Speaker 4>the question, I said, now, did you eat? Did we

568
00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:16.200
<v Speaker 4>de bix also? And he said he did? You know,

569
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<v Speaker 4>he he didn't look like he enjoyed it, just kind

570
00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:22.200
<v Speaker 4>of by facial expressions. But you know, sometimes you just

571
00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:23.799
<v Speaker 4>have to do things that you don't want to do

572
00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:26.000
<v Speaker 4>in order to get a win, you know, Sometimes it's

573
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:27.440
<v Speaker 4>running extra spreads.

574
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<v Speaker 1>Sacrifice.

575
00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:31.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, these are the sacrifices that we make. Sometimes it's

576
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:35.960
<v Speaker 4>eating a kind of a weedy cereal with warm milk,

577
00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:37.680
<v Speaker 4>because I think that's the key. That's what they said,

578
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:42.039
<v Speaker 4>it's warm milk. So I did see weed to bix

579
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:44.839
<v Speaker 4>was trending and people were going to their local uh,

580
00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:47.960
<v Speaker 4>their local stores finding some. So hey, I'm willing to

581
00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:53.920
<v Speaker 4>try it Amazon Amazon. Okay, if you guys try it,

582
00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:55.759
<v Speaker 4>you guys try it.

583
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<v Speaker 1>I will. I told Billy that, and I didn't set

584
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<v Speaker 1>the time frame. Billy, this wasn't like over the last

585
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:03.759
<v Speaker 1>forty eight hours. It's like last year. I tried it. Yeah,

586
00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:06.119
<v Speaker 1>and no thing but leak.

587
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was funny because.

588
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<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't put warm milk on it. I have

589
00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:14.279
<v Speaker 1>a cold milk on it just turned into a sludge

590
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>that I didn't like. Now I gotta ask you this. Now,

591
00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:25.039
<v Speaker 1>Leek went to college in Texas, but it's from New Mexico. Okay, Clovis,

592
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<v Speaker 1>Is that right?

593
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:27.079
<v Speaker 4>That's right?

594
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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Did you guys eat anything for breakfast out there

595
00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:34.839
<v Speaker 1>that was sort of like indigenous to the local area,

596
00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:37.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, something that people in that part of the

597
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:39.920
<v Speaker 1>world might eat. For breakfast that people over here don't

598
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<v Speaker 1>eat for breakfast.

599
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<v Speaker 4>I don't. I don't like. I think like a lot

600
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<v Speaker 4>of like fried eggs and Mexican food and that kind

601
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:50.480
<v Speaker 4>of stuff with acceptable breakfast, those franchios. But exactly. But

602
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:52.200
<v Speaker 4>he got to keep in mind, I grew up like

603
00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:54.839
<v Speaker 4>in the late eighties early nineties when nobody when parents

604
00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:56.920
<v Speaker 4>didn't worry about sugar content. So I just dated a

605
00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:01.319
<v Speaker 4>bunch of like pop tarts and fucked the bikes. So nothing. Yeah,

606
00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:03.920
<v Speaker 4>just good old fashioned bad sugar.

607
00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>The all time sugar bomb, cap'n Crunch.

608
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:09.400
<v Speaker 4>And I've started to think if I ate weed the Bix,

609
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:11.799
<v Speaker 4>I might have turned into Amari Williams. But we'll never know.

610
00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:13.200
<v Speaker 4>We will never know.

611
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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I went. I went to London two years

612
00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>ago when Kentucky played over there. I don't remember seeing

613
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:20.759
<v Speaker 1>anybody eat that or order that. So anyway, well, let's

614
00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:23.319
<v Speaker 1>get back to basketball. What was it like. You've made

615
00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:27.720
<v Speaker 1>many road trips, you've covered NCAA tournaments. Kentucky was an

616
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<v Speaker 1>underdog in this game, even though it was the higher

617
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>seeded team and you had more Illinois fans there, until

618
00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:36.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, they became silent by the end.

619
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<v Speaker 4>Of the game. What was that like? You know, the

620
00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:43.680
<v Speaker 4>atmosphere was great, and it's not often that Kentucky goes

621
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<v Speaker 4>into the tournament in any sort of situation where they

622
00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:48.920
<v Speaker 4>are that out numbered and night. You're right. I've been

623
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:51.039
<v Speaker 4>to quite a few I've been to I was in

624
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:54.200
<v Speaker 4>Kansas City in nineteen when they went to the Sweet sixteen.

625
00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:55.640
<v Speaker 4>I was in Clee. I've been to a lot of

626
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:58.920
<v Speaker 4>places and Kentucky fans show up, and to their credit,

627
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:02.039
<v Speaker 4>a lot of Kentucky fans did make that seven hour

628
00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:04.680
<v Speaker 4>drive or flight, some of them, I'm sure to get

629
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<v Speaker 4>up there. There was a good number of Kentucky fans.

630
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<v Speaker 4>But Illinois Champagne, Illinois is just about three hours away,

631
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<v Speaker 4>and I think a lot of you know, people came

632
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:15.200
<v Speaker 4>from Chicago as well that you know Illinois Grads, which

633
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.279
<v Speaker 4>is about an hour away. That place was so orange.

634
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:21.440
<v Speaker 4>I mean, they had their backs against the wall. But

635
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:25.799
<v Speaker 4>we've seen this Kentucky team so many times on the road.

636
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:28.720
<v Speaker 4>They did it it Missouri, they did it at Tennessee.

637
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:32.359
<v Speaker 4>They I mean, they've played well in Oklahoma. You know,

638
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:37.119
<v Speaker 4>they've done it in these road environments, and I think

639
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:39.559
<v Speaker 4>they kind of relished that, you know, and one of

640
00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:41.880
<v Speaker 4>the things that Lamont said after the game that I

641
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:45.559
<v Speaker 4>really enjoyed. He said, you know, a lot of us

642
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:49.599
<v Speaker 4>we're just underdogs, and not necessarily just this season, but

643
00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:53.400
<v Speaker 4>he's like, we've just kind of been underdogs our whole life.

644
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:56.839
<v Speaker 4>We've never been the kid that was highly recruited, highly

645
00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:00.759
<v Speaker 4>sought after we all started at other schools. You know,

646
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:04.240
<v Speaker 4>they know what it means to make to put this

647
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.759
<v Speaker 4>Kentucky jersey on. But they also have that experience like

648
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:10.799
<v Speaker 4>Ansley Almanor, who was a part of that Fairley Dickinson

649
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:14.119
<v Speaker 4>team that had the big upset in the NCAA tournament.

650
00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:17.440
<v Speaker 4>They totally understand what it means to play the role

651
00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:21.640
<v Speaker 4>of the underdog in this tournament, whereas a lot of

652
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:24.079
<v Speaker 4>the kids, and this is nothing against the Kentucky kids

653
00:31:24.119 --> 00:31:26.759
<v Speaker 4>in the past, even the ones with experience in the

654
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:30.440
<v Speaker 4>tournament always came in with Kentucky across their chest and

655
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:34.039
<v Speaker 4>understood that angle. Well, you come in as the underdog,

656
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:36.920
<v Speaker 4>you can relish in that if you really accept that role.

657
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:38.799
<v Speaker 4>And I think that's what we're seeing from this team.

658
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Speaking of Underdog's League, Ky Kentucky is a literal underdog

659
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:45.799
<v Speaker 3>against Tennessee four and a half point dog, And I

660
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.400
<v Speaker 3>need you to explain that to me, because Kentucky's already

661
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:51.480
<v Speaker 3>beaten this Tennessee team twice. One of those times was

662
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:55.599
<v Speaker 3>without Lamont Butler. Feels like Kentucky's peaking and playing their

663
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:57.920
<v Speaker 3>best right now. Even if you look at the ken

664
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<v Speaker 3>Pom numbers, why would you think that Tennessee would be

665
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:01.680
<v Speaker 3>favored in this games?

666
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:05.599
<v Speaker 4>You know, they keep when I say they, I mean

667
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:09.279
<v Speaker 4>national people that make these picks, and they keep trying

668
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:11.480
<v Speaker 4>to make Tennessee the better team. And you could look

669
00:32:11.519 --> 00:32:13.519
<v Speaker 4>at the body of work of Tennessee and say, well,

670
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:17.720
<v Speaker 4>maybe they were better overall. But all that matters in

671
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:20.240
<v Speaker 4>these tournaments is the team that you play in front

672
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:22.680
<v Speaker 4>of you. I mean, that's how the tournament is. It's

673
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:26.240
<v Speaker 4>all about matchups. And for whatever reason, Kentucky has had

674
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:30.200
<v Speaker 4>Tennessee's number this year that they can play right with them,

675
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:33.079
<v Speaker 4>and they can score and they can somehow get Tennessee

676
00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:35.240
<v Speaker 4>out of their game. So I'm not sure why that's

677
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:37.519
<v Speaker 4>the case. But you brought up a good point. They

678
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:41.400
<v Speaker 4>didn't have Lamont Butler. I don't think Andrew Carr played

679
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:46.960
<v Speaker 4>in that first game either. They were more injured when

680
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:49.039
<v Speaker 4>they played them the previous two times, and they will

681
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:51.839
<v Speaker 4>be on Friday. This will be the healthiest they've played

682
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:55.440
<v Speaker 4>against Tennessee. And then you take into account you didn't

683
00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:57.839
<v Speaker 4>have Colin Chandler playing the way that he is now.

684
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:02.240
<v Speaker 4>I mean, so I kind of like Kentucky's chances, But

685
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:05.200
<v Speaker 4>I've honestly like going back to the underdog thing. I

686
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:08.119
<v Speaker 4>don't think the players really care that they're going into

687
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:10.599
<v Speaker 4>this game as a perceived underdog. Again. I even saw

688
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:13.359
<v Speaker 4>on ESPN today as we were driving, they had the

689
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:15.519
<v Speaker 4>lower third chiron at the bottom of the screen that

690
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:20.400
<v Speaker 4>said something like Kentucky looks to avenge their two regular

691
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:24.640
<v Speaker 4>season losses to Tennessee. Oops, and like it's literally literally

692
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:28.519
<v Speaker 4>you know, the wrong thing. So you know, I Kentucky

693
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:32.680
<v Speaker 4>has played well against Tennessee, and we've seen that they

694
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:34.799
<v Speaker 4>can play well against the team that tries to slow

695
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:36.640
<v Speaker 4>it down and that kind of thing they've struggled against

696
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:39.559
<v Speaker 4>in Alabama because they're just better at playing that style

697
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:43.799
<v Speaker 4>of basketball. So I like what Tennessee. I mean, excuse me,

698
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:46.640
<v Speaker 4>what Kentucky can do against Tennessee this this Friday.

699
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Ziggler concerns me. Even with Lamont Butler active. I think

700
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:53.640
<v Speaker 1>he's playing really well. Though the last week Aaron Gershan

701
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:56.559
<v Speaker 1>immediately pointed out that Ziggler doesn't play well against the

702
00:33:56.599 --> 00:33:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky That doesn't mean he won't play well this time.

703
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:03.200
<v Speaker 1>But I like the fact that. I mean, I could

704
00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:06.559
<v Speaker 1>see Tennessee being favored. But I like the fact that

705
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:10.679
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's playing better defense now than it was even back

706
00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:14.800
<v Speaker 1>when it beat Tennessee those two times, because Kentucky played

707
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:18.199
<v Speaker 1>good enough defense then to hold down a Tennessee team

708
00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:21.159
<v Speaker 1>that has trouble scoring. And the one thing we know

709
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:24.840
<v Speaker 1>about Kentucky, it generally doesn't have a whole lot of

710
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:28.159
<v Speaker 1>trouble scoring. Now it will against Tennessee because Parbacey's a

711
00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:32.519
<v Speaker 1>good team defensively. But I think Kentucky's offense against Tennessee's

712
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:35.840
<v Speaker 1>defense is going to be better than Tennessee's offense against

713
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's defense, You know what I mean?

714
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:40.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And that's fair. I mean, you can outscore this

715
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:44.880
<v Speaker 4>Tennessee team, yes, and they purposely, they purposely try to

716
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:47.719
<v Speaker 4>keep the score low. So if you can get them

717
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:49.480
<v Speaker 4>out of their rhythm. We saw in that first game

718
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:52.280
<v Speaker 4>when they took an extraordinary amount of three pointers and

719
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:54.800
<v Speaker 4>missed almost all of them. You know, they can be

720
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:58.159
<v Speaker 4>taken out of their game as well. And so yeah,

721
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:01.119
<v Speaker 4>I mean someone said in the media room in Milwaukee, like,

722
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:03.159
<v Speaker 4>it's going to be tough to beat Tennessee for a

723
00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:05.639
<v Speaker 4>third time. Sure, the way I look at it, maybe

724
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:08.360
<v Speaker 4>I look at it with the optimist view here is,

725
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:10.519
<v Speaker 4>but going into a matchup with the team for a

726
00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:12.599
<v Speaker 4>third time, wouldn't you rather be the team that won

727
00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:14.599
<v Speaker 4>the first two games? Oh yeah, than the team that

728
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:15.800
<v Speaker 4>lost the first two games?

729
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

730
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:18.079
<v Speaker 4>You know, you know, you know what I'm saying. So

731
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<v Speaker 4>I just think Kentucky and Tennessee. You know, Tennessee may

732
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:26.880
<v Speaker 4>just be one of those matchups where Kentucky can thrive.

733
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:29.320
<v Speaker 4>And you know, if you're going to go into a

734
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:32.440
<v Speaker 4>Sweet sixteen matchup against the two seed, because you're going

735
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:34.880
<v Speaker 4>to have to play a two seed, wouldn't you rather

736
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:37.360
<v Speaker 4>play the team that you've beaten twice. That's just kind

737
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:39.079
<v Speaker 4>of the view that I go into it with. And

738
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:41.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, roll the ball out there. And here's the

739
00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:43.920
<v Speaker 4>other part of that. When you get into this NCAA

740
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:47.880
<v Speaker 4>tournament situation where you're doing scout after scout after scout,

741
00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:50.880
<v Speaker 4>you don't have to spend a lot of time scouting Tennessee.

742
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:53.639
<v Speaker 4>I mean it works both ways, but both teams are

743
00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:56.920
<v Speaker 4>extremely familiar with each other. Yeah, so you know, there's

744
00:35:57.039 --> 00:35:59.920
<v Speaker 4>there's not a lot of preparation as far as Nuance

745
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:02.559
<v Speaker 4>is about the volunteers that Kentucky's nothing to know about

746
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:03.400
<v Speaker 4>going into this game.

747
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<v Speaker 2>Lee, k Aren't you glad that Kentucky didn't hire Dan Hurley?

748
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:11.400
<v Speaker 4>Oh my goodness. I mean that guy, I.

749
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:13.519
<v Speaker 3>Mean, has he ruined his reputation? I mean, I know

750
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:16.599
<v Speaker 3>he just went back to back titles in the NCAA tournament.

751
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:19.480
<v Speaker 3>Streak was like second longest of all time that just

752
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:20.199
<v Speaker 3>got snapped in it.

753
00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the guy.

754
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Has he always been like this or is he getting

755
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:24.440
<v Speaker 2>a little too big for his bridges.

756
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:27.760
<v Speaker 4>I think he's getting big. I think he's always been

757
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:30.079
<v Speaker 4>like this. I think we're all paying attention a little

758
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:34.760
<v Speaker 4>bit more, Billy. I'll tell you a story. Selection Sunday,

759
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:38.920
<v Speaker 4>we were over at the at Reparena for the selection

760
00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:42.360
<v Speaker 4>Sunday ceremony and Mitch Barnhardt walked over to where I

761
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:45.639
<v Speaker 4>was standing and I looked at him and I said, Mitch,

762
00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:49.159
<v Speaker 4>I said thank you, And he said for what? And

763
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:52.239
<v Speaker 4>I told him for sparing us from Dan Hurley. And

764
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:55.840
<v Speaker 4>he got this big smile on his face and he said,

765
00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:59.559
<v Speaker 4>he said, and I don't think he would mind me

766
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:02.480
<v Speaker 4>sharing this. And he said, oh, I knew him back

767
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:04.960
<v Speaker 4>from his heart for days. We were never going to

768
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:09.199
<v Speaker 4>get Dan Hurley. And and and so even though those

769
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:13.400
<v Speaker 4>rumors were out there, who knows, I mean, he who

770
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:16.360
<v Speaker 4>knows if the contact was ever made. But I just

771
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:19.960
<v Speaker 4>can't imagine the fan base how in love they are

772
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:23.280
<v Speaker 4>with Mark Pope right now latching on to a Dan Hurley.

773
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:26.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it is Uh. I don't cheer against a

774
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:30.920
<v Speaker 4>lot of teams as much when they're not playing against Kentucky.

775
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:32.679
<v Speaker 4>You know, I don't really have a dog in most

776
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:33.719
<v Speaker 4>teams in most fights.

777
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:33.920
<v Speaker 1>You know.

778
00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:37.480
<v Speaker 4>I actively cheer against Dan in the U cottage just

779
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:40.280
<v Speaker 4>it's kind of a fun thing to do.

780
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, the guy knows what he's doing, you know.

781
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:45.599
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean, the proofs in a pudding right here.

782
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:48.800
<v Speaker 1>But and then his welcome, Yeah, well that's true. But

783
00:37:48.920 --> 00:37:52.519
<v Speaker 1>his team went down fighting this year as well. Real quickly,

784
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:56.440
<v Speaker 1>what was your take on the Arkansas upset of Saint John's.

785
00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:00.199
<v Speaker 4>I didn't see it coming. I mean, I tell you

786
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:02.480
<v Speaker 4>what I mean. We we said it from the moment

787
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:05.159
<v Speaker 4>that cali Perry was hired there that it was good

788
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:09.000
<v Speaker 4>for all parties, and that is completely held true. I mean,

789
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:13.800
<v Speaker 4>this obviously was a good upgrade for Kentucky John Caliperi

790
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:16.880
<v Speaker 4>going to Arkansas was a great upgrade for him. And

791
00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:20.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, we talked about teams having people's numbers. Coaches

792
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:23.599
<v Speaker 4>have people's numbers two and for whatever reason, John Calipari

793
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:27.679
<v Speaker 4>has Rick Patino's number, so uh, best of luck to them.

794
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:29.400
<v Speaker 4>I mean, they they played the better game, They were

795
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:31.880
<v Speaker 4>the better team that game, and they're moving on well.

796
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:34.199
<v Speaker 1>And it's like I told Billy, I watched the second

797
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:37.480
<v Speaker 1>half again and I'm just convinced that I you know,

798
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I can't speak to the coaching moves, but Arkansas I

799
00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:43.639
<v Speaker 1>had better athletes, you know I mean, And that again

800
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:45.079
<v Speaker 1>goes back to the SEC.

801
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:45.840
<v Speaker 4>Lee K.

802
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:48.639
<v Speaker 1>Howard from w k YT watches work. Watch him on

803
00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:51.639
<v Speaker 1>Twitter and watch his reports from Indianapolis. Thank you brother.

804
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:54.199
<v Speaker 4>All right, thanks guys, have a good night.

805
00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:56.840
<v Speaker 1>A good one, and we'll come back and wrap up

806
00:38:56.880 --> 00:38:59.039
<v Speaker 1>this edition of the State Wide BB. I talk a

807
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:02.159
<v Speaker 1>little more basketball, a little bit of baseball, and We'll

808
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:09.719
<v Speaker 1>be right back. Thanks again to Lee K. Howard, Jeff Picicoro. Yoh,

809
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<v Speaker 1>it's dinner both billion me but we have there's plenty

810
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:16.760
<v Speaker 1>to talk about, of course. Uh you watched the women's game.

811
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:21.159
<v Speaker 1>I was there. That was a terrific basketball game, back

812
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:24.360
<v Speaker 1>and forth, up and down. Early it looked like Kentucky

813
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:27.559
<v Speaker 1>was gonna cruise. Then you realize the big kid that

814
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:30.800
<v Speaker 1>is in the middle for Kansas State. You know, she

815
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:34.119
<v Speaker 1>owns the n C record for most points in one

816
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:37.719
<v Speaker 1>game in a women's game. She's she's the record holder.

817
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I did not know she scored sixty one points.

818
00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Was that the one hitting threes?

819
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:48.639
<v Speaker 1>No, that's that, oh man. And some people say it's

820
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:50.480
<v Speaker 1>because they had to commit so much of covering the

821
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:51.960
<v Speaker 1>big kid, and maybe it was, but I don't think

822
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:54.320
<v Speaker 1>they were just late closing out, you know, and to

823
00:39:54.440 --> 00:39:58.000
<v Speaker 1>lose her in traffic. It's just a puzzlement to me.

824
00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:02.239
<v Speaker 1>But things happened still. George Aymore gets the shot you

825
00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:07.599
<v Speaker 1>would want ninety nine out of one hundred, and it

826
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:09.960
<v Speaker 1>just didn't go. When I saw her, When I saw

827
00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Strack make that pass, I thought game over. I braced

828
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:17.400
<v Speaker 1>myself for the screaming that building was going to explode. Crowd.

829
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Billy was as good as I've ever seen at a

830
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:23.239
<v Speaker 1>UK women's game. Oh yeah, as good as I've ever seen.

831
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<v Speaker 1>But it was such a great game.

832
00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:28.199
<v Speaker 3>When she made a great move on that final play

833
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:30.320
<v Speaker 3>too to kind of go towards the base, well, I

834
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:30.719
<v Speaker 3>mean it was.

835
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:33.559
<v Speaker 1>A loose ball. But here's the other thing. There were

836
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<v Speaker 1>three really good looks.

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<v Speaker 3>Before that the reoffensive rebounds. Yes, before she made that,

838
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<v Speaker 3>they could for a better opportunity. And you know what

839
00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:44.960
<v Speaker 3>that team deserves that support. It's Kenny Brooks has done

840
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<v Speaker 3>a great jobs. The Sporting News Coach of the Year.

841
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<v Speaker 3>That's one of I guess six or nine how many

842
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:53.199
<v Speaker 3>of those awards there are. But look, I mean this

843
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<v Speaker 3>is year one. I think the future is bright with

844
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<v Speaker 3>him at the helm. And now give him a chance

845
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<v Speaker 3>to bring in some players and let's keep this thing rolling.

846
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<v Speaker 1>Right, It's got to go find another Georgia aymore. How

847
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<v Speaker 1>do you do that?

848
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<v Speaker 2>You don't?

849
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<v Speaker 1>You don't.

850
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, she will be remembered forever in the blue

851
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:09.800
<v Speaker 2>and white.

852
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:13.239
<v Speaker 3>She was phenomenal and for her to miss that, Bunny,

853
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:15.960
<v Speaker 3>it looked a little bit like Otega's game winner the

854
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<v Speaker 3>first Oklahoma game.

855
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<v Speaker 1>That's a good point.

856
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:21.440
<v Speaker 2>But he wasn't or she wasn't completely behind the backboard for.

857
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:23.880
<v Speaker 1>The shot where and she didn't use the glass. She

858
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:25.079
<v Speaker 1>didn't use the glass either.

859
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they have been part of it.

860
00:41:26.440 --> 00:41:29.679
<v Speaker 1>And she is so good at that. It penetrating and

861
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:34.039
<v Speaker 1>somehow getting the ball off off the square and she'll

862
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<v Speaker 1>do that and then as they call it, the w Yeah. Yeah.

863
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<v Speaker 3>And this was a team that broke records for most

864
00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:43.440
<v Speaker 3>shot blocks in a single season. Tracks coming back, So

865
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's there's a lot to be optimistic about Clara.

866
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<v Speaker 1>Clara Sarah Klatta, I think is how you should know it.

867
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<v Speaker 1>She should live in the weight room. You know, needs

868
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<v Speaker 1>to get stronger. I'm sure she knows that. Obviously easy

869
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<v Speaker 1>for me to say. But too many times the ball

870
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:01.559
<v Speaker 1>gets knocked out of her hand or whatever. But she's

871
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:05.440
<v Speaker 1>got skills. She's going up against track every day. Come on, now,

872
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:05.840
<v Speaker 1>you know.

873
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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure it is the same. I'm not sure exactly,

874
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<v Speaker 3>but the transfer portal opened today, at least for men's basketball, Dick,

875
00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:15.440
<v Speaker 3>how can you ask a coach to work in the

876
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:17.039
<v Speaker 3>transferport while they're still playing?

877
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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you something we were talking Doug Flynn

878
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<v Speaker 1>and I were talking to Austin Kuzeno, who's Kentucky's baseball

879
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:26.679
<v Speaker 1>recruiting coordinator, about just that, about how it never ends

880
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:32.079
<v Speaker 1>really he said. While he said, while we were in Omaha,

881
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<v Speaker 1>Nick Man, Jone and I were making phone calls, setting

882
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:38.400
<v Speaker 1>up zoom calls, stuff like that while they're in Omaha,

883
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:42.199
<v Speaker 1>not concentrating on the World Series obviously, but trying to

884
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<v Speaker 1>get back to the World Series by reaching out, you know.

885
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:48.119
<v Speaker 1>And on the one hand, you can say, hey, Billy Routledge,

886
00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:50.039
<v Speaker 1>we would love to have you come be a Wildcat.

887
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<v Speaker 1>We're in Omaha right now. That's how much we think

888
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:54.880
<v Speaker 1>of you, you know, that sort of thing. But I'm

889
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<v Speaker 1>sure they kids hear that from everybody.

890
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<v Speaker 3>Well, no wonder everybody's leaving the coaching profession at college day.

891
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I can't like it's it's a joke that

892
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know what, but you got to

893
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:09.480
<v Speaker 3>back that up. And the same thing for the college

894
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:11.840
<v Speaker 3>football calendar as well. I mean, we have a second

895
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<v Speaker 3>transfer portal open for college football, which you need.

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<v Speaker 1>In the spring because there are kids who you know,

897
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:20.519
<v Speaker 1>come out of the spring say hey, I ain't gonna but.

898
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:23.079
<v Speaker 2>That it's created that culture of I'm not gonna play.

899
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<v Speaker 1>Sure it is, but who didn't see that coming?

900
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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's that's true.

901
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<v Speaker 1>But you and I talked about this. I'm thinking, Billy,

902
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:30.760
<v Speaker 1>you and I talked about this three years ago. We

903
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:33.480
<v Speaker 1>did when these rules were first, And you and I

904
00:43:33.519 --> 00:43:36.800
<v Speaker 1>aren't the brightest, but it didn't take a genius to

905
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:40.199
<v Speaker 1>see what this was going to do to college athletics.

906
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<v Speaker 1>The first thing that came to my head was tampering.

907
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<v Speaker 1>Well now it's now, it's almost legalized tampering because you

908
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<v Speaker 1>don't need a coach to call a player. You can

909
00:43:48.920 --> 00:43:50.280
<v Speaker 1>get one of your players to call him.

910
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<v Speaker 2>Well, I remember it was in real time. We were saying, like,

911
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<v Speaker 2>this is the end of college sports as as we

912
00:43:56.039 --> 00:43:58.199
<v Speaker 2>know it, and it was like COVID. And then right

913
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<v Speaker 2>after that, all.

914
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<v Speaker 1>The next move is going to be when all these

915
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<v Speaker 1>schools start paying more money, You're going to see sports

916
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<v Speaker 1>start to disappear, Teams, programs, merily, men's broc start to disappear.

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<v Speaker 1>Right when it happens, we'll complain about it right here

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<v Speaker 1>on the Big Women's Sider. Thanks so much, Leek Howard

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<v Speaker 1>for Billy Dick Abriel that said good night from Lexington
