1 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Dearly beloved. We are gathered here today to celebrate Deaf 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,080 Dave's nineteen eighty four, a brand new show that will 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,320 take you through the greatest pop culture year we have 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:12,880 ever seen. 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:18,519 Speaker 2: Flax On, my fellow Americans, Flacks, Oh Sar, I am 6 00:00:18,559 --> 00:00:20,600 a candidate, and we'll seek. 7 00:00:20,359 --> 00:00:28,519 Speaker 1: Reelection from movies, music, sports, comics, television, and more. This 8 00:00:28,559 --> 00:00:31,359 show will be a chronological journey through every aspect of 9 00:00:31,359 --> 00:00:31,719 the year. 10 00:00:34,399 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: So Who's gonna drive you home? 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: And not let the glory days pass you by? Death 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,799 Daves nineteen eighty four. It's a hard habit to break, 13 00:00:43,039 --> 00:00:45,640 but time after time I'll show you why nineteen eighty 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,039 four was the best year ever. So who are you 15 00:00:48,039 --> 00:00:51,200 gonna call? Coming in twenty twenty six? Subscribe and follow 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,479 now I'll be back. 17 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:03,039 Speaker 3: Hello, It's me Christopher. Have you ever heard of the 18 00:01:03,079 --> 00:01:09,120 horrific Tale of Saint Elmo's Fire? It's the tragic tale 19 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:14,439 of Elmo. Are cute and cuddly friend from the streets 20 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:20,400 of Sesame, he died horrifically in a fire. Come to 21 00:01:20,439 --> 00:01:22,560 think of it, I don't know if that's the loot 22 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,400 of the movie at all. Let's listen in and find out. 23 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 4: More with Jason and d I'm surely he can't be serious. 24 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: So naked lady walks into the block. 25 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,159 Speaker 5: She's got a pool in one hand and a three 26 00:01:51,159 --> 00:01:54,400 foot salam on the other. The bartender says, I guess 27 00:01:54,439 --> 00:01:56,760 you won't be needing a drink, and then she said, 28 00:01:57,599 --> 00:01:58,159 are we rolling? 29 00:01:58,680 --> 00:01:58,879 Speaker 2: Rolling? 30 00:01:58,959 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? 31 00:01:59,159 --> 00:01:59,799 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Here we go. 32 00:01:59,799 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 5: All right, welcome everybody back to sure that you can't 33 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:03,239 be serious? 34 00:02:03,239 --> 00:02:04,599 Speaker 2: Pay Hey, you got to tell me the rest of 35 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,400 the joke. I'll tell you after the show. 36 00:02:06,439 --> 00:02:11,039 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, welcome back to part two of The 37 00:02:11,039 --> 00:02:14,800 Breakfast Club Versus Saint Elmo's Fire, our last show for 38 00:02:14,879 --> 00:02:18,800 season six. Super excited to talk about these. We just 39 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,759 finished part one where we talked about how the show's 40 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,919 kind of got their inception, some interesting details behind it, 41 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,680 and a breakfast club casting for the Breakfast Club, and 42 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,080 so we're back here to talk about now casting for 43 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,280 Saint Elmo's Fire. But before we get there, these two 44 00:02:33,319 --> 00:02:35,479 movies were known as The Little Chills. 45 00:02:35,759 --> 00:02:38,319 Speaker 6: I was blown away when I came across that little nugget. 46 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: So tell me the story. 47 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 6: Well, there's a producer named Ned Tannin and he had 48 00:02:42,439 --> 00:02:44,719 worked on The Breakfast Club. And he was also a 49 00:02:44,719 --> 00:02:47,479 producer on Saint Alma's Fire, And there was a comparison 50 00:02:47,479 --> 00:02:49,039 to The Big Chill, which had been made a few 51 00:02:49,159 --> 00:02:53,280 years earlier. Yes, as a successful group of people who 52 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,439 were friends who kind of came together and made a story. 53 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 54 00:02:56,319 --> 00:03:00,759 Speaker 5: So Ned Tannin was a major studio player, right he was. 55 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,159 He was president of Universal, became later president of Paramount, 56 00:03:05,719 --> 00:03:09,159 did All Kind, he did Jaws, He did several of 57 00:03:09,199 --> 00:03:11,599 the movies that we've covered, including Top Gun. 58 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: But Ned Tanner. 59 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,159 Speaker 6: Sounds awful lot like Biff Tannin to me. 60 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 5: So a young Bob Zamechis and Bob Gail were pitching 61 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,439 a movie called I Want to Hold Your Hand about 62 00:03:22,759 --> 00:03:27,000 Beatles fandom, Yes to Ned Tannan, and he read the 63 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,199 script and got irate. Thought it was anti semitic. I 64 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,560 don't know what the movie's about, but basically yelled at 65 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,919 them and bullied them, which is why they decided to 66 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:42,199 name the bully in back the future Tannin. WHOA there 67 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:42,520 you go? 68 00:03:42,599 --> 00:03:43,159 Speaker 2: How about that? 69 00:03:43,439 --> 00:03:46,879 Speaker 5: And on that note, Saint Elmo's the Bar is on 70 00:03:46,919 --> 00:03:50,159 the back lot at Universal. Yes, three buildings down from 71 00:03:50,199 --> 00:03:52,879 the clock tower used in back It's astounding. 72 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 6: It's a downing yep, literally right off of the square 73 00:03:57,719 --> 00:04:00,719 for Back to the Future. Yeah, although I did see 74 00:04:00,759 --> 00:04:03,800 a locations video shoot where a guy was walking around 75 00:04:03,879 --> 00:04:06,280 he really wanted to see the Sant Almos bar. It's 76 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,039 been burned down like twice. They yea burned down once 77 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,199 they rebuilt it like it was then burned down again. 78 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,759 They're like, yeah, whatever, but that was actually based off 79 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:15,800 of a real life bar. 80 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:18,759 Speaker 2: The tombs, the tombs at Georgetown right. 81 00:04:18,879 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 6: This whole movie Santama's Fire was set in Georgetown, but 82 00:04:22,879 --> 00:04:26,120 Georgetown's an old Jesuit college. When they went to the 83 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,519 president of the university, he's like, no, how. 84 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:34,639 Speaker 5: About no, how about no, Yeah, let's see one redeeming quality. 85 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 2: Yeah nope, can't find we got drugs, we got sex, 86 00:04:37,399 --> 00:04:40,519 we got yeah, no okay, And so on that note, 87 00:04:40,519 --> 00:04:41,240 you brought this up. 88 00:04:41,519 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 5: When we go through the casting for Saint Almos Fire, 89 00:04:44,319 --> 00:04:46,639 You're going to bring up each of the characters and 90 00:04:46,639 --> 00:04:48,360 I'm going to tell you why they're horrible, and you're 91 00:04:48,399 --> 00:04:50,800 gonna give me a reason that they're good at the plan. 92 00:04:51,199 --> 00:04:55,439 Speaker 6: So the idea is is that we loved these characters 93 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,879 who have major character flaws and I'm going to bring 94 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,519 their redeeming qualities to the front. 95 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,879 Speaker 2: Great, I'm anxious to find out what those might be. 96 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:08,160 You don't have any affection for these characters at all? Okay, no, 97 00:05:08,439 --> 00:05:11,240 not really? All right, well let's get into it. Okay, 98 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:12,079 all right, all right? 99 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,759 Speaker 6: So the cast of Saint almost fire. So right off 100 00:05:14,759 --> 00:05:18,439 the bat, we get three straight from Breakfast Club. Judd Nelson, 101 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,639 Ali Sheety and Emilia Estavez are recommended by John Hughes. 102 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 103 00:05:21,959 --> 00:05:24,079 Speaker 5: They the office of John Hughes and the office of 104 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,639 Joel Schrmarker were in the same building. 105 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 6: I heard they were like right down the hall from 106 00:05:28,079 --> 00:05:30,959 each other. Yeah, And so they were hired for their 107 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,279 work from the Breakfast Club. Jud Nelson was originally thought 108 00:05:34,319 --> 00:05:38,120 to be better as maybe Billy kind of the wild rebel. 109 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,439 Speaker 2: Which is more in line with the character that he played. 110 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 6: In Vendor Characters, right, But he went the other way 111 00:05:42,879 --> 00:05:45,240 and did the kind of the more conservative, you know, the. 112 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:46,759 Speaker 2: Guy becoming the Republican. That's right. 113 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,519 Speaker 4: I'm going to get you a red lacy baby don 114 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,199 like Alec, I'm very happy and you're old pajamas, and 115 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,360 I'm happy when you're out of my old pajamas, Alec, 116 00:05:56,639 --> 00:05:59,399 it's becoming a recoveragerhever you want to get. 117 00:05:59,199 --> 00:06:03,199 Speaker 2: Married, Oh my god, which I think is interesting. All right, 118 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:03,839 so did it work? 119 00:06:04,079 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 6: Let's get into Okay, let's get let's start off with 120 00:06:06,199 --> 00:06:09,360 Emili Westavesk, who plays Kirby Kager. Yes, there are several 121 00:06:09,439 --> 00:06:13,680 quintessential moments in a man's life, losing his virginity, getting married, 122 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,639 becoming a father, and having the right girl smile. 123 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: A stalker what the heck? 124 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,879 Speaker 5: Like he was he had he looked like he might 125 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,920 be the guy throughout, Like he's there trying to trying 126 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,839 to fix things, trying to help people out. He's going 127 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,319 to law school, it's got a promising future, and just happens. 128 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: To you're making my case for me, but keep going. 129 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 5: No, no, yeah, he's doing okay, and but he but 130 00:06:36,759 --> 00:06:40,759 the drop is so far and so sudden, You're just like. 131 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,959 Speaker 2: What the heck? Just he he throws up. 132 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,439 Speaker 5: He gets a job, quits law school, gets a job 133 00:06:47,519 --> 00:06:51,360 with a high falutin Korean mobster or something like that, 134 00:06:51,519 --> 00:06:53,879 mister Kim so that with no further mister Kim, so 135 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,160 that he can have a house to throw a party 136 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,439 that he's not allowed to have in so that he 137 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,240 can get the doctor to come to the party. When 138 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,639 she doesn't come to the party, he's staring at her 139 00:07:03,759 --> 00:07:06,680 like a horror movie. 140 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 3: Kurtie, how are you? 141 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: I'm obsessed? Thank you very much. 142 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,959 Speaker 5: Like this has had to be Mark Wahlberg's inspiration for 143 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,319 primal fear or whatever. 144 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just and he keeps ongoing like it 145 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,680 just he sniffs her. 146 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 6: Pillow, He sniffs her pillow, he finds her while she's 147 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,160 skiing at a resort. 148 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,879 Speaker 2: Yes, and maybe she's the redeeming character. Right, so you 149 00:07:33,879 --> 00:07:34,480 want to move on to. 150 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,959 Speaker 6: Her, No, I want to tell you why Kirbie Kager 151 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:37,800 is a decent guy. 152 00:07:37,879 --> 00:07:39,079 Speaker 2: Okay, oh, yes, go ahead. 153 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 6: Now keep in mind, all these people are twenty two. Okay, 154 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:43,920 so they're fresh out of college. 155 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: They're twenty two. 156 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 6: Their frontal lobe still hasn't fully developed yet. All right, 157 00:07:48,399 --> 00:07:52,480 So his stalker behavior, I'm going to give him enthusiasm. 158 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: Enthusiasm, all right. He's not a quitter. 159 00:08:00,279 --> 00:08:06,279 Speaker 6: He is excited about seeing something that he wants. He's 160 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:08,639 pursuing it with all his heart. And the dude takes 161 00:08:08,639 --> 00:08:11,360 a swing. Okay, now here we go. I think we 162 00:08:11,399 --> 00:08:17,800 can both agree that he overstepped his boundaries that multiple times. 163 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,519 And the lovely Andy McDowell Dale Bieberman doesn't lose her 164 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:22,920 mind and call the police. 165 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,199 Speaker 2: No, she entices him to do it more. 166 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:30,199 Speaker 6: But you have that iconic moment where he freaking swings 167 00:08:30,199 --> 00:08:32,279 her down, lays the biggest kiss on her. 168 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: Don't do this at home kiss. Okay, hey, dude took 169 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:37,799 his shot. 170 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,039 Speaker 5: That scene happened so many times in so many different 171 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,919 movies where a guy took a kiss that was not 172 00:08:45,039 --> 00:08:48,639 welcomed by the girl and then the girl suddenly swoons. 173 00:08:48,879 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: She swoons, and I thought, oh, well, that's the way 174 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,360 it's done. Thank goodness, I never say that she's Louise. 175 00:08:55,399 --> 00:08:57,879 That's that I never ever worked. 176 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:03,399 Speaker 6: Well, okay, since everybod I got so uptight, But I 177 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,279 will say on his way driving home from the ski resort, 178 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,399 after he got his car stuck and. 179 00:09:09,399 --> 00:09:12,039 Speaker 2: Had to like, where are the other dude's pajamas? And 180 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,720 he gives the skiing doctor blonde stud he gets his 181 00:09:15,799 --> 00:09:16,200 car out. 182 00:09:17,399 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, he gives the biggest billy the kid laugh as 183 00:09:20,399 --> 00:09:22,840 he's peeling out after he laid a big kiss on her. 184 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 2: I'm giving it up to him. 185 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,639 Speaker 6: Man, he took a shot he did. Okay, all right, 186 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,919 who's next, Rob Loow Billy the Kid. 187 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not gonna believe hot hand is gonna be. 188 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,519 Speaker 5: The most you know, the line that you hear where 189 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,279 you think that, oh, maybe he is actually like trying 190 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,440 to think about this and do the right thing, is 191 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,159 talking about being one of those weekend dads. But that 192 00:09:47,159 --> 00:09:48,679 would be right for her, and that. 193 00:09:48,639 --> 00:09:52,159 Speaker 2: Would be that's his biggest justify. 194 00:09:52,039 --> 00:09:55,519 Speaker 5: Abandoning his child. Is that what he just did in 195 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,399 a sweet and romantic. 196 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 2: Way, Yes he did. Yes, he did all of the 197 00:09:59,759 --> 00:10:04,759 roman romanta's the romanticization whatever that word is. Yes, the 198 00:10:06,159 --> 00:10:14,080 romantization of this horrific behavior. It is just throughout the movie. 199 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,879 It's terrible. And you know who had a fully developed 200 00:10:16,879 --> 00:10:20,919 frontal lobe, Joel Schumacher. He was directing it and he 201 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,639 wrote it, and then you should know better. 202 00:10:23,159 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 6: Okay, all right. So Roblow's character, William Hicks, they call 203 00:10:28,039 --> 00:10:31,799 him Billy Billy the Kid. So he tries to sleep 204 00:10:31,919 --> 00:10:34,799 with mer Wayne Ham's character Wendy. He's kind of got 205 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,399 something going with her. He's also married. 206 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: With a child and a mistress. 207 00:10:38,919 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 6: He also tries to get it on with Jewels in 208 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,480 his driveway. 209 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,759 Speaker 5: Tries to get it on like that again the most 210 00:10:45,799 --> 00:10:49,759 inappropriate behavior. Takes the keys, puts them in his pants. 211 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:50,519 Speaker 2: Come and get them. 212 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 5: What But she's just trying to It's like she's at 213 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,240 a moment of vulnerability where she just needs somebody and 214 00:10:58,279 --> 00:11:01,360 he's being the biggest cock in the world. 215 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,639 Speaker 6: But to me, his biggest sin is like, you know, 216 00:11:04,919 --> 00:11:07,480 I thought about being a weekend dad, but nope, they 217 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,039 don't need that. No, they need a full time dad. 218 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,759 But you know, do whatever you're gonna do. 219 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: Okay. 220 00:11:12,879 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 6: However, he's the emotional heart of this movie. He's the 221 00:11:16,039 --> 00:11:20,360 one who rescues Jewels as she's dealing with her suicidal thoughts. 222 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: He gives the whole sign. 223 00:11:22,799 --> 00:11:24,519 Speaker 5: Did you see that lighter he had when he lit 224 00:11:24,519 --> 00:11:26,600 both his cigarettes? That's saint almost fire right there? 225 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:35,279 Speaker 6: Holy yes, honey, this isn't real. You know what it is. 226 00:11:36,159 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: It's saying almost fire, electric flashes of light that appear 227 00:11:39,639 --> 00:11:41,120 in dark skies, out of nowhere. 228 00:11:44,279 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 6: I will also say he also makes another kind of 229 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,200 egregious sin in that speech because he hugs her as 230 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,480 he's like hugging her back to life. He says, come on, Jewels, 231 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,559 you're making all this stuff up. Okay, Well, she's got 232 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,240 a drug habit, she's lost her job, her stepmamas. She's 233 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,200 not making up these problems. That's real life. Yeah, that's 234 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:05,240 actually happening. 235 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: He comes to a rescue and he's always there. No, no, 236 00:12:10,759 --> 00:12:12,039 not buying it. Okay. 237 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 6: Andrew McCarthy's character, Kevin don't seem to like anything I 238 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,879 do it being afraid of Russia. 239 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: It's a harmless fear, but it makes America feel better Russia. 240 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 6: It's an afloided sense of national worth from more paranoia, because. 241 00:12:26,159 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 5: That flicks his ashes into the food that he's making 242 00:12:30,639 --> 00:12:34,039 for his friends, Yes, for his friends. And by the way, 243 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,600 at the very first crack in the door, at the 244 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:43,159 very moment of the crack in the door, he is like, boom, 245 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,159 time to bang my best friend's girl. 246 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 6: Not only that he doesn't see it for what it 247 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,759 is and continues to press. 248 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, I was kind of like, well, I 249 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,840 hope that she does end up with him and that 250 00:12:53,919 --> 00:12:54,960 this is a happy thing. 251 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 5: I was surprised that they started. She banging on the 252 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:02,000 coffin right away, and then the shower, and then the bed, 253 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,960 and then in the kitchen, and I mean that guy 254 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,600 had to bite him and eat with him or something. 255 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,879 Speaker 2: I don't know, but but I was like, that's a 256 00:13:08,879 --> 00:13:09,600 little fast. 257 00:13:09,759 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 5: But then I was hopeful that she would see that 258 00:13:12,759 --> 00:13:15,840 he was this guy who had held it a secret. 259 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:16,639 Speaker 2: I guess. 260 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 5: I mean, I guess he had it pent up for 261 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,960 a while. Maybe that's why it exploded out like it did. 262 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,320 But geez, Louise, he. 263 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 6: Was there for her when she needed somebody. 264 00:13:25,879 --> 00:13:27,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. 265 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, he was there for her on the floor and 266 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,000 in the shower and on the fridge and all that stuff. 267 00:13:32,399 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually he's the character I like the least in 268 00:13:35,039 --> 00:13:37,600 this whole story. Oh really, wow, Although I do. 269 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 6: I like the part where Demi Morris trying to talk 270 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,799 to him, saying, hey, listen, you're gay. You're gay, and 271 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:49,519 he's like, I'm not gay, And I'm not saying I. 272 00:13:49,759 --> 00:13:50,279 Speaker 2: Will say this. 273 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 5: I'm trying to find positive things to say about this movie. 274 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,559 That little moment where she's talking to him, I thought, Oh, 275 00:13:56,639 --> 00:13:59,440 she's gonna she's gonna hook up with him. It was 276 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,759 all a very well plotted out sequence of lines so 277 00:14:03,799 --> 00:14:06,879 that you believed that she was trying to seduce him, 278 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,720 and then you find out she just wants to hook 279 00:14:08,759 --> 00:14:10,240 him up with her gay next door name. 280 00:14:10,159 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 6: Bait and switch right there. In fact, she even goes 281 00:14:15,279 --> 00:14:16,879 as far as putting her hand on his thigh. 282 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, because she thinks it's safe. But we're all looking thinking, oh, 283 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:20,720 she's making a move. 284 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, so let's talk about jewels. To me More's character, jewels, 285 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:32,639 you break my heart, then again you break everyone's heart. 286 00:14:33,399 --> 00:14:37,399 Speaker 2: I mean, where do I begin? What is wrong with her? 287 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:38,240 I don't understand. 288 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:44,879 Speaker 5: Okay, she is it looks like sleeping with her boss 289 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,960 to get her Yes, lots of lies, and then we 290 00:14:49,039 --> 00:14:51,360 find out that that's all been made up and she's 291 00:14:51,399 --> 00:14:54,600 not actually doing that. She obviously has a significant problem 292 00:14:54,639 --> 00:14:58,440 with drugs and alcohol. Probably throw onto that pile. She's 293 00:14:58,559 --> 00:15:02,639 eating food deserved for the homeless and complaining about it 294 00:15:02,679 --> 00:15:06,320 and then talking about being a bag lady in front 295 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,039 of a bag lady who by the way, that was 296 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,919 my favorite part in the whole movie Myra. I think 297 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,639 her name is Moira whatever it might have been. That 298 00:15:15,759 --> 00:15:18,919 lady whoever, that bag lady actress was the bag lady 299 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:19,720 thumbs up. 300 00:15:20,039 --> 00:15:23,519 Speaker 2: She's just staring at her as she's spewing all this vile. 301 00:15:23,759 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 5: I thought it was perfect. She was the everyman for me. 302 00:15:26,279 --> 00:15:28,720 She was me in that movie, just like these are some. 303 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:30,639 Speaker 2: People. 304 00:15:31,799 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 6: Okay, let me just say Demi Moore is plain matchmaker. 305 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,840 She's trying to help Kevin accept who he is, even 306 00:15:39,879 --> 00:15:44,320 though it's misunderstood. Right, She's trying to be a friend 307 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:44,919 of these people. 308 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: By the way, her next door neighbor is the worst 309 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:53,000 interior decorator ever. That was the grossest room I've ever seen, 310 00:15:53,039 --> 00:15:55,879 the giant Billy Idol thing. But Billy Idol was fine. 311 00:15:55,919 --> 00:15:57,320 But everything in the room was pink. 312 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,559 Speaker 6: Dude, The Billy Idle thing was awesome. 313 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,799 Speaker 2: It was pretty cool, like bearing that. I won't lie 314 00:16:04,799 --> 00:16:05,159 that was. 315 00:16:05,159 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 6: Go back to our Rebel Yell episode. By the way, 316 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,960 just on a side note while we're here, Demi Moore, 317 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,840 like Joel Schumacher had to fight for her. 318 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 5: You know how he found her. She was walking out 319 00:16:16,519 --> 00:16:21,279 of John Hughes's office for an audition for Really Yeah 320 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,879 and walking down the hall and Joel Schumacher sees her 321 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,519 walking down the hall and whoever his assistant is, He's like, 322 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,320 chase her down, find out if she's an actress. That's 323 00:16:29,399 --> 00:16:31,039 how that's how he picked her to Pop. 324 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:31,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. 325 00:16:31,679 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 6: You know, she was in a movie called Blame It 326 00:16:34,039 --> 00:16:34,480 on Rio. 327 00:16:34,799 --> 00:16:37,559 Speaker 2: This movie comes up from time to time and we've 328 00:16:37,559 --> 00:16:38,480 got to talk about this movie. 329 00:16:38,559 --> 00:16:41,799 Speaker 5: So I mean, at some point, like I was I 330 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,279 that was one of those movies when you were a 331 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,840 kid that were like it was on HBO later cine Max, 332 00:16:45,879 --> 00:16:49,240 and you're like, hey, yeah, And then now I'm looking 333 00:16:49,279 --> 00:16:51,559 at it and I find out that. 334 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:56,759 Speaker 2: Girl was seventeen seventeen seventeen, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. 335 00:16:56,799 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 6: I meant to say so when Joel Schumacher hired her, 336 00:16:59,679 --> 00:17:04,319 she had a significant drug problem, right, she had cocaine issues. 337 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,279 He actually kicked her off set one time she was 338 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:08,119 super high and he's like, get out of here. And 339 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,400 he's a former junkie, like a junkie, and so he 340 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,759 actually said, look, you need to get sober. And they 341 00:17:13,799 --> 00:17:16,920 actually hired a companion to go everywhere with her to 342 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,839 keep her sober. So fifteen days before shooting started was 343 00:17:20,839 --> 00:17:21,720 when she got sober. 344 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 5: You had a theory about the gravelly sound of her voice, 345 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,000 which it's not as gravelly in the last thirty years 346 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,160 as it was forty years ago. 347 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 6: So right before we were getting ready to record, I 348 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,640 was like, you know, her voice used to be really 349 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,160 gravelly really raspy. 350 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think about one crazy summer. What was 351 00:17:39,519 --> 00:17:41,920 the yeah, one crazy say, one crazy summer, very raspy 352 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:42,319 voice in. 353 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 6: This Yes, And I thought, I wonder if cocaine use 354 00:17:45,319 --> 00:17:47,799 affects your voice. Turns out it does. 355 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 2: It does. 356 00:17:48,279 --> 00:17:51,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, it affects your vocal cords anyway, That's why she 357 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,079 sounds significantly less raspy. 358 00:17:53,279 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: Possibility. 359 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,759 Speaker 6: She was on the Bratz documentary and I thought her 360 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,839 and Rob Low had the best attitude about the whole thing. 361 00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 5: Did you know that Amelia Stevez and she started dating 362 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:03,880 after this movie? 363 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 2: I did. He said he was deeply in love with her. 364 00:18:06,279 --> 00:18:06,680 I did. 365 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,559 Speaker 5: And side note to that, Molly Ringwold and Anthony Michael 366 00:18:10,559 --> 00:18:12,519 Hall started dating after Breakfast Club. 367 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 2: I knew that as well. 368 00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 5: She apparently hated him during sixteen Candles despised him, but 369 00:18:17,559 --> 00:18:20,759 something happened at Breakfast Club and they started dating. 370 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:21,839 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what happened. 371 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 6: There were only people around. When you look around, the 372 00:18:24,039 --> 00:18:25,960 only people my age, you know, the guy and the 373 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,359 girl and makes sense. 374 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 375 00:18:27,759 --> 00:18:29,799 Speaker 6: By the way, Amelio Estevez and Demi Moore did a 376 00:18:29,839 --> 00:18:32,359 movie after this called Wisdom, which I've also been on 377 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,720 a film by to talk About with Jeff, directed by 378 00:18:34,759 --> 00:18:38,559 Amelio Estevez, written by Amelio Estevez, and I thought it 379 00:18:38,599 --> 00:18:41,480 was one of the coolest movies i'd grown up. 380 00:18:42,039 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 2: Turns out a little. 381 00:18:43,799 --> 00:18:48,319 Speaker 6: Rough around the edges and parts, but Demmy was awesome in. 382 00:18:48,279 --> 00:18:48,799 Speaker 2: It, okay. 383 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 6: So, and that's when they were together, engaged. Interesting interesting Okay. 384 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,680 By the way, Also, Rob Loow and Demi had an 385 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,519 affair on sat Alma's Fire Shocker. The two people on 386 00:19:00,559 --> 00:19:02,880 the best looking people on the set, and then they 387 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,519 go on to do about Last Night right, which is 388 00:19:05,599 --> 00:19:08,839 kind of a graduation out of the brat pack into 389 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:13,200 more adult themes. And I would say that they probably 390 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:18,440 are the most established post brat pack careers probably so. 391 00:19:18,759 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 5: Although Rob Low did have a significant lull, I think 392 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,960 it was Wayne's World that brought him back into the 393 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:26,599 end of the world again. 394 00:19:26,519 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 6: He did, and he I mean, part of the lull 395 00:19:29,079 --> 00:19:32,319 was self inflicted. That oh yeah, videotape scan sixteen year 396 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:33,319 old or whatever it was. 397 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. But he got sober as well. So there 398 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,559 you go. So you might you we've talked about Jewel. 399 00:19:38,559 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 5: We just got done with our three way comparison of 400 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:45,039 Jewel once more set and no doubt. Yes, And there's 401 00:19:45,079 --> 00:19:48,359 a roast that Jewel does about the sixteen year old. 402 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,759 But you had something that you were going to tell 403 00:19:49,839 --> 00:19:53,680 us about Rob Low and Jewel and the movie thing. 404 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 405 00:19:54,319 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 6: So I listened to Rob Low's audio book a couple 406 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:58,839 of years ago, and I don't remember a lot of 407 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,680 the details about it. But he noticed Jewel. She was 408 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,240 an upcoming star. And of course he's friends with Champagne. 409 00:20:04,279 --> 00:20:07,720 You know, they went to high school together. It's crazy, 410 00:20:07,839 --> 00:20:11,319 but so he brings Jewel in to do it's some 411 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,839 TV show that didn't last very long. Anyway, she brought 412 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:18,400 him into be his love interest, and she was not cooperative, 413 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,599 no chemistry, was difficult to work with, and he found 414 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,480 her irritating. And anyway, they had a real rocky relationship 415 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:30,240 because she wouldn't she wouldn't embrace the idea of him 416 00:20:30,279 --> 00:20:34,000 being sexy, you know, and all that stuff. Anyway, but 417 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,279 she got him. She roasted him at the Rabblo roast, 418 00:20:38,319 --> 00:20:38,920 which it was. 419 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,079 Speaker 5: Hilariousah, it's fun And the punchline at the end of 420 00:20:42,079 --> 00:20:43,759 the song that she sings for him is that she 421 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,680 was the sixteen year old girl in the video. 422 00:20:47,599 --> 00:20:48,519 Speaker 2: She's funny. 423 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,279 Speaker 6: Okay, And then you have Judd Nelson who plays Alec Newberry. 424 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:53,079 Speaker 2: He's their hero. 425 00:20:53,519 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 6: The wet look is them, that's mister. 426 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 5: He seemed like a hero up until so I was 427 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:12,319 buying this suit and then ended up doing it with 428 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,599 the sales lady in front of the three way mirror. 429 00:21:14,319 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 6: The leggy blonde who wanted to model the lingerie for him. 430 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So he's a cheater, but a serial cheater. 431 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,279 Speaker 6: He nameless, faithless people. 432 00:21:25,079 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: Yes, right, yes, and that will all just end when 433 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:33,079 he gets married. Yes, okay, he is the hero. 434 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,799 Speaker 6: He's always like he goes and rescues jewel jewels. 435 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 5: He rescues it, well, sort of like it's a team 436 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:40,759 effort to rescue jewels. 437 00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 6: Really, everybody's rescuing. He does try to kill Kevin while 438 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,880 he pulls him back, and I'll be just yes, attempted 439 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:53,680 murder and his quote unquote best friend who banged his fiance. 440 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: Yes. 441 00:21:54,759 --> 00:21:58,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, then, and he's constantly getting jobs for his deadbeat friends. 442 00:21:58,839 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: That's right, Billy the Kid. 443 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,599 Speaker 6: He is the one always coming through for Billy. 444 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:07,079 Speaker 5: The Kid and then giving him a swirly whenever he. 445 00:22:06,519 --> 00:22:09,559 Speaker 6: Loses the jip into my office here by the way. 446 00:22:09,599 --> 00:22:14,160 That's swirly maybe the only swearly I remember on any 447 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,519 eighties movie. Yeah, do you know how many swirly as 448 00:22:16,519 --> 00:22:19,640 I gave a summer camp a ton because. 449 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 2: Of this movie. That's I'm so thankful to summer camp together. 450 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 6: Okay, let's talk about Wendy Mayor winning him. 451 00:22:27,599 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 4: My thighs are fat, No diet works. 452 00:22:31,319 --> 00:22:35,319 Speaker 6: Oh I lose weight in your thighs. Okay, tell me 453 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:36,440 what's terrible about her? 454 00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 2: Uh? I don't. 455 00:22:38,759 --> 00:22:41,599 Speaker 5: I don't have something terrible in her, honestly, I mean 456 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,400 she okes, I mean I do. She keeps going back 457 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,279 to Billy the Kid. She has a subsess character. That's 458 00:22:49,319 --> 00:22:52,559 her character flaw right, and she recognizes it as a 459 00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:54,680 flaw unlike everybody else who's just like, oh, this is 460 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,519 perfectly acceptable behavior. 461 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 2: And so it's too bad. But other than that, it's okay. 462 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 6: She uses her scuba suit to keep Billy the Kid 463 00:23:03,319 --> 00:23:05,440 at Bay Scoop. 464 00:23:05,519 --> 00:23:09,039 Speaker 2: It's by the way in that scene. 465 00:23:09,079 --> 00:23:11,279 Speaker 6: So if you remember in the movie Billy the Kid, 466 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,920 so he finds out she's a virgin and then finds 467 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,400 it fascinating and proceeds to try to steal it. Atever 468 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:23,960 you turn, so you're steal a virgin right right up yours, buddy. Yeah, 469 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,920 So they have a little makeout session on the couch 470 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,559 and he has no smoothness to him. He goes right 471 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:35,039 for it and realizes she's wearing a girl whatever something. 472 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,799 It makes fun of her and kills the moment. Yeah, 473 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,720 he's an ass, he kind of is. Actually, she is 474 00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:44,079 the sweetheart of the movie. 475 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: She is. 476 00:23:44,759 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 6: She tries to please her parents and she goes out 477 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,079 with Howie and it doesn't really work out, and she. 478 00:23:49,039 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 2: Takes the car, but she gives the car back. 479 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,039 Speaker 6: Right, and she makes her own peanut butter and jelly 480 00:23:54,079 --> 00:23:57,400 sandwich and it's the greatest she's ever had. Okay, But 481 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,359 she's a social worker. She cares about people. 482 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, she actually is the decent person in all of 483 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,400 these horrible people. 484 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 2: By the way. 485 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 6: So, and I do feel bad for her, that billy, 486 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,039 the kids trying to steal her virginity at every turn. Yeah, 487 00:24:09,079 --> 00:24:11,519 Mayor Winningham in real life. You know, she played the 488 00:24:11,559 --> 00:24:14,440 virgin right at the time at the filming of Saint 489 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,079 Alma's Fire, she was pregnant and had already had two children. 490 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,039 Speaker 2: This is the reason for the larger thighs. 491 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,799 Speaker 6: You remember her she was in Turner and Hooch. 492 00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:25,799 Speaker 2: I never saw Turner. I kind of feel bad for. 493 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 6: Her, Like she's not even mentioned brat pack adjacent, Like 494 00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:30,920 she's like forgotten brat pack. 495 00:24:31,039 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah she I mean, she just didn't do anything. 496 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 6: Rob Low brat pack, Judd Nelson brackpack, Amelia Stevez brat pack, 497 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:43,160 Andrew McCarthy brat pack, Demi Moore brat pack adjacent. Mary Winningham, 498 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,359 who's that never heard of her? 499 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? Kind of sad. Yeah, Okay. 500 00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:49,599 Speaker 6: Anny McDowell is in this movie Stunner. 501 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:50,839 Speaker 2: Yes, she's beautiful. 502 00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, we talked about her when we did our Groundhog 503 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,160 Day episode. We did Groundhog Ars's multiplicity. 504 00:24:56,319 --> 00:24:56,559 Speaker 2: Yep. 505 00:24:56,599 --> 00:24:59,519 Speaker 5: Her problem is that she doesn't let Amelia Stevez know 506 00:24:59,599 --> 00:25:03,559 that this is not going to happen. She takes him home, 507 00:25:03,799 --> 00:25:06,599 he stalks her, walks into a party he's not been 508 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,160 invited to, completely soaking wet, and she brings him home. 509 00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 6: She gives him pajamas and a fireplace and a place 510 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,920 to sleep instead of calling the police. 511 00:25:17,519 --> 00:25:19,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just telling you got a boyfriend or 512 00:25:19,599 --> 00:25:21,160 guy that you won't to hook up with more than 513 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,000 him or something? How about this? How about no? How 514 00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:26,079 about go home. 515 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, okay, I forgot to bring up Ali 516 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:30,440 shety too. 517 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,759 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's talk about Ali. Shety. Her character is Leslie. Yeah. 518 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 5: So number one revenge sex the night the night that 519 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,920 he tells you to get out. Yes, yeah, I throw 520 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,319 that on Alex's Alex Pyle, by the way, marry me 521 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:50,640 no gout? Yeah right, accuse me of cheating get out right, yes, 522 00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:54,720 even though I have actually been cheating a lot lot. 523 00:25:55,559 --> 00:25:58,880 But she has revenge sex bad enough, right, She. 524 00:25:58,880 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 2: Breaks the shower door too. 525 00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 6: She doesn't take her pearls off ever. First of all, 526 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,880 I like the pearls. I'm okay with the pearls. 527 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 2: How are you with the coffin. 528 00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 6: No, no coffin pearls, yes, coffin no pros. 529 00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:18,759 Speaker 2: Yes. But the morning, the next morning, she reveals the 530 00:26:18,759 --> 00:26:22,480 revenge sex, Like I mean, Kevin is obviously trying to 531 00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:24,640 keep it on the download, doing a great job. Hey, 532 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:29,599 I got a girl back there. And then she walks 533 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:35,519 out and ruins everything, ruins the friendship, ruins the engagement possibilities. 534 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 6: Not cool at all. She's got no, she's got a 535 00:26:39,079 --> 00:26:40,000 poker face in this. 536 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: She would just worked. 537 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, and so now they hate each other. And now, 538 00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:49,559 of course Kevin's the one who's going to take the 539 00:26:49,559 --> 00:26:50,200 beating for this. 540 00:26:50,759 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 2: Of course he actually is almost killed. 541 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 6: Almost is murdered on the fire escape. Yeah, but I'm 542 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,599 gonna say, Leslie her good quality. 543 00:26:59,839 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 5: I'm struggling to She's trying to help her friends. 544 00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:05,319 Speaker 2: That's that's all I got. 545 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 6: I don't know, she's always looking at for jewels. She is, 546 00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:11,240 you know, she's always looking at for jewels. But that's 547 00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:15,359 all I got. Yeah, she's not very likable character. In fact, 548 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,759 she knows Alex is cheating this whole time. Well she suspects. 549 00:27:19,759 --> 00:27:23,200 So okay, there's one other guy I want to bring up, Actually, 550 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,119 a couple couple of people I want to bring up. Okay, 551 00:27:25,519 --> 00:27:28,480 So you have the guy who plays mister Kim, who 552 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,839 is Curbo is supposed to be watching his house. He 553 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:37,119 plays the TV anchor in RoboCup, which is kind of 554 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,440 an interesting thing, right. 555 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 2: Go check out it RoboCop Versus Predator. 556 00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 6: We did RoboCop Versus Predator a couple of years ago. 557 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 2: Okay. 558 00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:48,039 Speaker 6: Now, then you have Martin Bassam and Joyce Van Patten, 559 00:27:48,079 --> 00:27:49,960 who play Wendy's parents. 560 00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:56,039 Speaker 2: Where did you meet Wendy again? Oh, Okay, yeah, she 561 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:01,839 whispers prison, Yeah, drugs. Do you know who they are? 562 00:28:02,279 --> 00:28:04,519 Speaker 5: I know he was in Twelve Angry Men, and he's 563 00:28:04,519 --> 00:28:05,599 been in some other things. 564 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 6: She was in Psycho. He was Detective Abergash or whatever. 565 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:10,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, that's right he was. 566 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 6: And go back to our Psycho Silence of the Lambs 567 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,440 and m episode. 568 00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:18,079 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great one. And then Joyce fan Patten. 569 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,960 I recognize that name, but I don't recall what. 570 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 6: Joyce van Patten is, the sister Dick Van Patten. Okay, 571 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,359 from Eight is Enough and Spaceballs. These two people are 572 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,440 playing her parents. They were married like in the fifties 573 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,480 and sixties and had been divorced for twenty three years 574 00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:36,119 when they played these characters. So they were actually married 575 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,920 in real life. Interesting and had not been married for 576 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:39,640 over twenty years. 577 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:40,359 Speaker 2: That's interesting. 578 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 6: And then one other thing I wanted to bring up. 579 00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:45,480 Matthew Laurance. He plays Ron. 580 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 2: He didn Ron. 581 00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:49,519 Speaker 6: He was the guy that Jules was kept trying to 582 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,759 Kevin up with my extra neighbor. 583 00:28:51,839 --> 00:28:54,079 Speaker 2: He's fabulous. Oh yeah, he's been in a bunch of stuff. 584 00:28:54,279 --> 00:28:57,079 Speaker 6: He was in a show from the eighties called Not 585 00:28:57,119 --> 00:28:58,240 Necessarily the News. 586 00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:00,839 Speaker 2: Remember him from that. Yes, yes, which was a ton 587 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,799 of fun if you remember that. Absolutely. Yeah. 588 00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:07,119 Speaker 6: By the way, some other people, just the alternate universe, 589 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:13,240 Jodie Foster, Jennifer Beals, Tatum O'Neill, and Joan Cusack were 590 00:29:13,799 --> 00:29:15,279 interested in the role of Jules. 591 00:29:15,319 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: Okay. 592 00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 6: See Thomas Howell audition for the role of Kirby. 593 00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:20,319 Speaker 2: Okay, right, I could see that. 594 00:29:20,519 --> 00:29:24,599 Speaker 6: Sure, Brooks, Shields, Meg Ryan, Jamie Lee Curtis, Melanie Griffith, Sarah, 595 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,519 Jessica Parker, Bridget Fond, Elizabeth shoe At, Jennifer Jason Lee 596 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,720 were also considered for the role of Leslie okay, and 597 00:29:31,759 --> 00:29:36,960 then Anthony Edwards and Leah Thompson were up for roles maybe. 598 00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:37,559 Speaker 2: In sant Almost fine. 599 00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:40,079 Speaker 6: I don't know specifics on that, but lots of brat 600 00:29:40,119 --> 00:29:41,720 pack going on right here. 601 00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:51,359 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Are you ready for tibbets? Let's do tibbets? 602 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 5: Okay, I really only have one. I may throw some 603 00:29:54,039 --> 00:29:55,680 other things in here, but I really only have one. 604 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 2: But I think it's gonna be a good one. Okay, Okay, 605 00:29:57,279 --> 00:29:59,000 So do you know who Vince Evans is? His name 606 00:29:59,079 --> 00:30:00,559 rings a bell, but I can't place. 607 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 5: Quarterback for the Chicago Bears in the early eighties. Okay, 608 00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:07,640 became a quarterback for the Chicago Blitz. 609 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: You know that, Yeah, I do. 610 00:30:09,559 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 4: So. 611 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 5: The Chicago Blitz was the USFL USFL team team. They 612 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,319 were practicing in the same school that The Breakfast Club 613 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,519 was filmed in, and so Anthony Michael Hall walking to 614 00:30:21,599 --> 00:30:24,799 set would pass Vince Evans and his lineman walking out 615 00:30:24,799 --> 00:30:25,319 to practice. 616 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,039 Speaker 2: That is cool. 617 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,319 Speaker 6: I remember the USFL because Oklahoma had a franchise and told. 618 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,119 Speaker 2: Him, yeah, okay, was it the Outlaws? It was the Outlaws? 619 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, So here are my tidbits on Sane 620 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,720 aulmost Fire, and then I got tidbits for Breakfast Club. 621 00:30:38,759 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 2: Okay, all right. We talked about. 622 00:30:40,599 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 6: This last episode briefly, but as of June twenty twenty five, 623 00:30:44,519 --> 00:30:47,960 Rob Low confirmed, Demi Moore confirmed they are currently working 624 00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:50,160 on a Saint Almos Fire sequel. 625 00:30:50,839 --> 00:30:53,279 Speaker 2: Right, Joel Schumacher is no longer with us, so I 626 00:30:53,319 --> 00:30:55,640 wonder who's doing the writing on this. I don't know. 627 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,240 It's a good question. Yeah, okay. 628 00:30:57,279 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 6: The booga booga boogah chant that they do, yes, that 629 00:31:01,599 --> 00:31:05,880 actually looks very organic, looks spontaneous. That was an actual 630 00:31:06,359 --> 00:31:09,319 fun chant that they had amongst themselves. The actors had 631 00:31:09,319 --> 00:31:13,119 it because it was a response to how people would 632 00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:14,839 talk about them and kind of talk about them behind 633 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,119 their back, and so something between the actors on that. 634 00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:18,839 Speaker 2: Okay. 635 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 6: The other tibit that I have. The studio hated the 636 00:31:21,759 --> 00:31:25,400 title Saint Elmo's Fire. Okay, Okay, because if you think 637 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,319 about it, you know you're pitching a movie, We're gonna 638 00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:29,319 call this Saint Almost Fire. You're like, well, what is it? Well, 639 00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:34,319 it's this thing. Ships are guided by it. But the 640 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,920 joke's on them because what what are we talking about here? 641 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,920 This is even when you watch the movie, you're like, 642 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,400 what the meaningless titles? 643 00:31:43,319 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 2: Right? 644 00:31:43,599 --> 00:31:46,039 Speaker 6: I do think it has that kind of quality of 645 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,319 sounding cool without ever understanding what it is. Agreed, Okay, 646 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,519 But they wanted to call this either Sparks. 647 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:59,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, or the Real World Yeah. Well, MTV had some 648 00:31:59,319 --> 00:32:01,200 success with that title later they did. 649 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,359 Speaker 6: They did, and actually it's a TV show about young 650 00:32:04,359 --> 00:32:06,079 people who are trying to make it in life or 651 00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:07,519 figure out who they are and what they're doing. 652 00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 2: Are all a bunch of assholes? True? 653 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 6: That is true. Once again, I just want to double 654 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,960 down on what I said in the previous episode. You 655 00:32:18,039 --> 00:32:23,400 have five or six beautiful people, charismatic actors people at 656 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:28,079 the time, a creative director, and a couple of songs, 657 00:32:28,119 --> 00:32:31,799 including the Santama's fire theme the love theme, which was 658 00:32:31,839 --> 00:32:33,960 played at every prom for the next ten years. 659 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 5: Oh sure, Yeah, I bets plenty of graduations as well. 660 00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:38,960 Of course, that was written by David Foster, who we've 661 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,759 talked about multiple times now. Really talked about him a 662 00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:47,240 bunch when we did our Chicago seventeen episode. 663 00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: Right, so that's earlier this year. 664 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 5: Go check out Chicago seventeen versus Vital Signs by Survivor. 665 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,680 A great matchup, great album. But he's hilarious every time 666 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,160 I see him interviewed. He's got all sixteen of his Grammy. Yeah, 667 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,960 you can see these sixteen Grammys. What has two thumbs and 668 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,200 sixteen grands right here? 669 00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 2: That'd be me. 670 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I didn't realize. So I went to visit 671 00:33:11,319 --> 00:33:13,960 my brother and he was he watches this. 672 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. 673 00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 5: It's it's this tech investment podcast thing that's very popular 674 00:33:19,759 --> 00:33:23,920 right now. And there were there are these two girls 675 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,680 that have this company. One of them got interviewed. But 676 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,599 it's like Daddy's favorite or something like that or favorite daughter. 677 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,799 I can't remember one of those two, but it's his kids, 678 00:33:33,839 --> 00:33:36,640 Like I looked him up and it's David Foster's daughters 679 00:33:36,759 --> 00:33:38,359 that run this company. 680 00:33:38,359 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 2: And they're both you know, socialites. 681 00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:42,119 Speaker 5: Of course, they've you know, had a good, you know, 682 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,920 a wealthy upbringing up in right in the in that world. 683 00:33:46,079 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 2: Sure, but it's really it was kind of cool to see. 684 00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 5: I mean they're our age, you know, roughly maybe a 685 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,519 few years younger than us, but pretty girls. But they 686 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,960 the big hit that they got was like some very 687 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,079 popular TV show. 688 00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 2: All they've they did all the clothes for that. 689 00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 5: Okay, but they're they're making tons of money with their 690 00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:06,960 new well anyway, sorry, it's. 691 00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 2: Good for them. Side track. 692 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,599 Speaker 6: That's cool just to kind of go with that. MTV 693 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,639 plus these actors excellent marketing tactic. And then it was 694 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,360 ran on HBO NonStop, just countless time. I don't know 695 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,880 how many times I saw it in HBO. Right, But 696 00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:26,880 this movie I think can credit a lot of its 697 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,400 success to when I watched The Man in Motion video 698 00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:33,400 John Parr, Yeah, which we talked about in our Patreon episode. 699 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:34,559 Speaker 2: Go go to Patreon. 700 00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:36,559 Speaker 5: Dot Patreon dot com slash Early Podcast you can join 701 00:34:36,599 --> 00:34:38,639 for his little five dollars a month. Shout out to 702 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,039 Sean Tendale Tisdale. Hold on, I just he just came in, 703 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,039 just came in, man, Seawan Tendall. Shawn Tandaal, thank you, 704 00:34:47,079 --> 00:34:49,920 brother Shawntondaal is the executive producer for this episode. 705 00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 706 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 5: He literally like as as we're in between episodes, he 707 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,159 pops up as pledging ten dollars a month. Seawn, We're 708 00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:57,679 gonna be sending you a present. We want to thank 709 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,000 you for supporting the podcast. Thanks brother, You other listener, 710 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,239 other watcher can absolutely join and become a part of 711 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,239 our Shirley family. We have fantastic exchanges that we do 712 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,320 on the Patreon page and you get all of our 713 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,880 one Hit Wonder episodes which we do new one every 714 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:15,480 single month. 715 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,159 Speaker 6: I think we have about forty episodes that are available 716 00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:20,159 over there and nowhere else. 717 00:35:20,559 --> 00:35:22,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, so come come hang out with us at the 718 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:23,719 at the Patreon page. 719 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:24,559 Speaker 2: Guys. 720 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,519 Speaker 6: Anyway, this movie I think can credit MTV for a 721 00:35:28,519 --> 00:35:28,880 lot of. 722 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 2: Its success and HBO. 723 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 6: Yeah all right, I've got a few tidbits on Breakfast 724 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,199 Club and then we can go to Final Judgement. 725 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 7: Sounds good, okay, Flipping. 726 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 2: Back to Breakfast Club. Yep. 727 00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:54,079 Speaker 6: John Hughes talks about his biggest regret from Breakfast Club 728 00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:59,360 with the stupid Emiliusts scream shatter glass. 729 00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 2: Right, the one dumb part of the movie. 730 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, by the way, I didn't know this, but you 731 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:12,599 know the marijuana smoking scene. Yeah, they're all smoking oregano right, Okay. 732 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 2: It's a dimebag of a regino day. 733 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,599 Speaker 6: But when Anthony Michael Hall's character says, you know what. 734 00:36:20,519 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 2: It is, chick's gonna hold their smoke. 735 00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:26,519 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's from a Richard Pryor comedy thing that I'm 736 00:36:26,559 --> 00:36:27,280 not familiar with. 737 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I didn't know that. 738 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 6: So apparently he's quoting Richard Pryor when he says. 739 00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:33,519 Speaker 5: That they ad libbed a bunch of the stuff that 740 00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:37,159 they did whenever they were high, and Anthony Michael Hall 741 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,119 admitted that he was familiar with what it was like 742 00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:40,639 to be high, despite the fact that he was only 743 00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:41,320 sixteen years. 744 00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 2: Old the time. But yes, the so I can vote 745 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,440 that that was a live yeah, Neo Maxi Zoom Dweebee. 746 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,559 Speaker 5: And most of the stuff when they're kinda going through there, 747 00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:56,840 why they're there for detention, most of it's ad lived. 748 00:36:57,159 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, the idea of you know, Claire eating sushi 749 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,840 for lunch. That was from Ali Sheety. Actually yeah, and 750 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,639 the fist pump at the end of the movie that 751 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,719 was an ad lib moment. 752 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty cool. Okay. 753 00:37:10,199 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 6: I found this interesting just to kind of put it 754 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,360 in the timeline of what was going on at the time. 755 00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:17,440 When they go get drinks for the gother cafeteria or whatever, 756 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,559 they come back with cokes, which on the coke it 757 00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:23,400 says nineteen eighty four Summer Olympics. 758 00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 2: Oh, nice little time capsule idea there. It's kind of fun. Okay. 759 00:37:27,639 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 6: Do you remember the last time we talked about the 760 00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:32,320 nineteen eighty four Summer Olympics. I think it was in 761 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,880 the Terminator because they were having to film around. 762 00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:38,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. And Fletch. 763 00:37:38,159 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 6: I think both of those movies had to film around 764 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,199 the eighty four Olympics. 765 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. 766 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,079 Speaker 6: The Breakfast Club movie was originally titled The Lunch Bunch. 767 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,599 Not a great title in my opinion. 768 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,679 Speaker 2: No, not at all. 769 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,280 Speaker 5: And honestly, again, if we're talking about titles that don't 770 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,000 really make any sense, the Breakfast Club doesn't make any sense. 771 00:37:57,039 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 2: Okay. 772 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,280 Speaker 6: Do you know whether this comes from No tell me, Oh, 773 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,880 I'm so glad. Okay. So the Breakfast Club comes from 774 00:38:03,039 --> 00:38:06,920 local Chicago teenage slang who when they had to come 775 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,039 they had to come to early morning detention, and so 776 00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:11,119 as a way to kind of spin it positively, the 777 00:38:11,159 --> 00:38:15,719 students called it the Breakfast Club. There you go, all right, okank. 778 00:38:17,039 --> 00:38:19,679 I found this interesting couple of things. At the very 779 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,159 beginning of the movie, it says March twenty fourth, nineteen 780 00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:25,239 eighty four, that's when the story takes place. 781 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 2: One day. 782 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 6: Filming for The Breakfast Club started on March twenty eighth, 783 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,920 nineteen eighty four, and I'm thinking to myself, it's four 784 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,840 days difference. Why didn't you just make it the same? 785 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,480 You know, Well, that's because March twenty eighth is a Wednesday. 786 00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:39,119 March twenty fourth is a Saturday. 787 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,079 Speaker 2: How about that? Being very careful with the cat life, right, 788 00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:43,079 That's good? Okay. 789 00:38:44,159 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 6: This movie finished third at the box office when it 790 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,280 was released, behind Beverly Hills Cop and Witness. 791 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,199 Speaker 2: Interesting. Okay, a couple two more things. 792 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,199 Speaker 6: Stanley Kubrick was a huge fan of this movie The 793 00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,719 Breakfast Club and wanted Anthony Michael Hall to play Private 794 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,480 Joker in Full Metal Jacket yep. 795 00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 5: So while they were filming Weird Science, Kelly LeBrock is like, 796 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,880 have you met Jack Nicholson And I was like, no, 797 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:13,960 I know him. 798 00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 2: Let's go to his house. Wow. 799 00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:18,519 Speaker 5: And so they go over and Jack is like shooting 800 00:39:18,519 --> 00:39:22,239 free throws in the driveway and they come in and 801 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,119 he's like, I'm gonna go take a shower, you guys, 802 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,159 you know, go ahead. 803 00:39:26,119 --> 00:39:29,639 Speaker 2: Lingerie, Yeah, I'm gonna take a shower. You guys, go 804 00:39:29,639 --> 00:39:30,719 ahead and go in the house. 805 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 5: And so they like go to the front door and 806 00:39:33,599 --> 00:39:36,880 Angelica Houston answers the door and it's like, what is 807 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,719 Kelly LeBrock and this teenager doing here? But he talks 808 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,360 to Anthony and Michael Hall about Stanley Kubrick because obviously. 809 00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 2: Shining shining right wow? So yeah, so nice. Didn't that 810 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:49,239 work out? 811 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,159 Speaker 5: I think it was just a contractual deal, Like I 812 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,559 guess they couldn't agree on a price or the agents 813 00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:59,880 or whatever. But yeah, Anthony Michael Hall later saw Matthew 814 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,239 and was like, how was it, Like, how was it? 815 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,679 How long did it shoot? And he was like fifty 816 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,440 four weeks, so almost a full year of shooting. When 817 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,800 you compare that to this where they I mean, they 818 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,199 spent two weeks rehearsing, they shot it in sequence, both 819 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,920 of which are very rare even at the time to do. 820 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,400 But still it was only a few weeks of time 821 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,639 of their lives, right, sure, not over a year. 822 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 2: That's madness. Yeah, yeah, genius madness. 823 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,119 Speaker 6: But wow, that's why Anthony Michael Hall started out here 824 00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:32,719 and then went well, yeah, so I just want to 825 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,639 bring up the movie poster for the Breakfast Club. 826 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's any iconic. Any Liebowitz shot it? Oh really? Yeah? 827 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 5: Okay, and yes, absolutely iconic, one of the most iconic 828 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,960 posters of all times. Yeah, and they shot a few 829 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,440 different poses, you know, like standing in the line or whatever. 830 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,559 But anyway, what I was going to say is people 831 00:40:51,559 --> 00:40:53,360 don't notice. I think a lot of the time that 832 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,679 the Texas Chainsaw Massacre two poster is the identical post. 833 00:40:57,679 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 2: I love it. It is. I love it. 834 00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:01,159 Speaker 5: Okay, And before we get to final judgment, I just 835 00:41:01,199 --> 00:41:02,920 have to say this. I just have to shout out 836 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,159 to all of the people who were involved in this process. 837 00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:09,199 But I was a theater major as an undergraduate, you know. Yeah, 838 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,440 and the summer after I graduated from college, before I 839 00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:17,360 went to law school, we put together together a theater company. 840 00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:19,840 All of our my friends and I put together the 841 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,559 theater company called ourselves the Chocolate Factory because we're all 842 00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:28,159 Willywalk fans. And we did thirteen shows in one summer, 843 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,239 which is thirteen shows isn't reasonable for like two or 844 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,360 three years for a regular company. And we're throwing together 845 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,440 thirteen shows in one summer, and we were doing this 846 00:41:38,519 --> 00:41:39,639 kind of it wasn't great. 847 00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 6: It's hard for us to do for thirteen episodes in 848 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:42,519 the summer. 849 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 5: Right, And so we were we were finding these strange 850 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,280 places to go. You remember ben Venuti's used to be 851 00:41:49,079 --> 00:41:52,280 the Innerurban. Yeah, when it was under construction, like it 852 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,800 was there were we went in that building and performed 853 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,079 to play inside the building. We had a friend who 854 00:41:57,199 --> 00:42:00,519 had the apartments that used to be just outside of 855 00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:04,239 o You we did one in the parking lot. Like 856 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,079 his apartment was basically backstage and the rest of the 857 00:42:08,159 --> 00:42:09,960 thing was performed in his parking lot. 858 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:10,519 Speaker 2: Wow. 859 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,159 Speaker 5: But the very first production that we did was got 860 00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:17,679 to be Mine. I directed a stage version of The 861 00:42:17,679 --> 00:42:23,719 Breakfast Club. And the girl that I had play Ali 862 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,000 Magan Buchanan. She's now the director of the Oklahoma ballet. 863 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:34,000 The guy who I had play the jock is Jet Thomason, 864 00:42:34,039 --> 00:42:36,079 who has done I see in commercials all the time. 865 00:42:36,119 --> 00:42:37,320 He's done plenty of voiceovers. 866 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 2: Yes, and when we first started, he was the guy 867 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,480 who did our introduction. 868 00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 6: Surely you can't be serious, yes. 869 00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, but Amy Staremsky, who's now Amy Knowles. We 870 00:42:48,519 --> 00:42:51,519 had Eric Price and we had Matt Brown, both guys 871 00:42:51,519 --> 00:42:54,480 who have done great things in the entertainment world as well, 872 00:42:54,639 --> 00:42:57,239 and I got to direct them before they were doing anything. 873 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,440 And the guy who's at the Oklahoma who was in 874 00:43:00,519 --> 00:43:03,920 charge of like entertainment, found out we were doing this, 875 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,760 and then that you know, I said, we were doing 876 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,519 it in weird spaces. I don't know how, but I 877 00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:10,800 got Norman High to agree to let us do it 878 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,599 in their library. So we literally get to do it 879 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,159 right in the location that's awesome it would normally take 880 00:43:16,199 --> 00:43:19,719 place in. And the guy found out that we were 881 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,760 doing this where it was, and he made us the 882 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,559 number one thing to do. And so there was this wonderful, 883 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,280 you know, Oklahoma news article and it's all of my 884 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:35,559 actors in that poster pose. That's fantastic, big, big moment 885 00:43:35,559 --> 00:43:36,000 in my life. 886 00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:38,119 Speaker 6: By the way, the Oklahoma for those who don't know, 887 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,199 is the newspaper of Oklahoma City. 888 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 2: It's a big deal. Yeah, very good. Okay, Well, here 889 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,880 we are final judgment. Judgment. I know how you're feeling. 890 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:46,280 Go ahead. 891 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,639 Speaker 5: H Yes, I don't think i've I don't think I've 892 00:43:48,679 --> 00:43:50,800 fooled anybody into thinking that there was any chance the 893 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,920 sant almos Fire was sant Amos Fire could be what 894 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,360 the heck happened? Episode? Yeah it was. I'm so sorry. 895 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,320 I met a wonderful person a few weeks ago and 896 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,000 told her that we were doing these two and she 897 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,840 was so excited about Saint elmos Fire, and I if 898 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,320 she watches this, I'm she's gonna be very disappointed. But 899 00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:13,039 it was terrible, and Breakfast Club defined the eighties, and 900 00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:16,159 so there's just no question Breakfast Club is a million 901 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,599 miles ahead of sant elmos Fire. 902 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 6: Okay, there, So I agree with you that Breakfast Club 903 00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:27,880 is a nearly perfect movie. It accomplishes what it sets 904 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,000 out to do. It causes you to take five strangers, 905 00:44:31,079 --> 00:44:33,239 you fall in love with their characters. You understand the 906 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,679 point of the movie is that we're all more similar 907 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:36,760 than we think. 908 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,639 Speaker 2: We are. We're all the same. We're all the same. 909 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,079 Speaker 6: We're all an athlete in a basket case and a 910 00:44:41,119 --> 00:44:44,719 princess and criminal and sant almos fire. Although I do 911 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,320 have a lot of affection for I am sucked in 912 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,679 by that time in my life where I was aspiring 913 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,960 to be. Oh man, I hope I have a group 914 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,880 of tight knit friends in college, and I hope that 915 00:44:56,079 --> 00:44:57,760 we're all there for each other and we love each 916 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,360 other always and that, you know, I think the idea 917 00:45:01,519 --> 00:45:04,400 that this movie is they're transitioning where they were kind 918 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,360 of a big deal at college, and they're kind of 919 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,840 going out into the world, and they're realizing we're not 920 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,559 all going to be the same, and we're not gonna 921 00:45:10,559 --> 00:45:14,360 be friends forever, and we're not gonna get dinner every 922 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,639 Thursday night, and so there's a certain nostalgia. You know, 923 00:45:18,639 --> 00:45:20,440 I had a group like that in college that I'm 924 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,000 super fond of. You met several of them, and we 925 00:45:24,159 --> 00:45:26,199 don't see each other as much as I would like to, 926 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,679 you know, and so there's a sadness with that. However, 927 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,480 when it comes to movie to movie, Breakfast Club is 928 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,960 far and away much better, right. 929 00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:37,199 Speaker 2: So there you go. That's my follow judgement. 930 00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:40,199 Speaker 5: All right, guys, tell us what you think. We know 931 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,119 that there are many of you out there who love 932 00:45:42,199 --> 00:45:45,280 Saint elmos Fire. If you love it more than breakfast club, 933 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,000 we want to know that. Tell us about it and 934 00:45:47,039 --> 00:45:49,599 tell us why you love it more than breakfast club. Yeah, 935 00:45:49,639 --> 00:45:51,840 and you know what, it's a new year. What a 936 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,880 great thought for our new year. We're all the same, 937 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,280 we're all the same. Let's let's find the commonality. Let's 938 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,480 let's not be at each other's throats on the social media. 939 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,920 Let's find ways that we can get along with people 940 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,000 despite our differences. 941 00:46:08,039 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 2: How about that? 942 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 6: In the simplest terms, the most convenient definitions were all 943 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:13,440 members of the breakfast club. 944 00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:16,079 Speaker 2: Love you, guys, Thank you so much. Thank you. I 945 00:46:16,119 --> 00:46:16,360 guess