WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.720 --> 00:00:05.919 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:16.839 Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's nick coffee. 3 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:19.359 All right, let's get it started. 4 00:00:19.399 --> 00:00:22.120 Hour number two Here on a Tuesday afternoon coffee and 5 00:00:22.160 --> 00:00:25.679 company fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. Appreciate 6 00:00:25.679 --> 00:00:27.399 you hanging out with us. Don't forget you can take 7 00:00:27.480 --> 00:00:29.239 us with you wherever you go. Listen live on the 8 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:33.960 iHeartRadio app. Listen live at seven ninety Louisville dot com 9 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:36.079 and we'll get to the text line coming up here 10 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:40.119 before too long. Some good stuff coming in. But I 11 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:43.960 didn't get distracted. But I've spent more time than I 12 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:49.479 intended to reading this blog. I suppose blog post at 13 00:00:49.479 --> 00:00:53.159 barstool sports dot com. I don't know why I care, 14 00:00:53.280 --> 00:01:01.280 but the SEC teams that did not get in South Carolina, Alabama, 15 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:04.599 Ole Miss. I don't think there's anybody else that like 16 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:07.879 claimed they belonged that didn't get in. But if I'm 17 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:13.239 missing anybody, you can correct me. But they keep talking about, well, 18 00:01:13.439 --> 00:01:17.840 the SEC team should never schedule a tough non conference 19 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:22.400 schedule again because the committee shows it doesn't matter. And 20 00:01:22.959 --> 00:01:28.359 Nick Saban really started running with that on Saturday. I'm 21 00:01:28.359 --> 00:01:32.599 sorry Sunday, the selection Sunday, And if you listen to 22 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:34.799 the first hour, we had Zach Barnett on a FootballScoop 23 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:36.760 dot com and he mentioned that he kind of had 24 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:41.480 to walk away from the I guess just the nonsense 25 00:01:41.519 --> 00:01:44.680 that was being said by some of the people discussing 26 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:48.840 the college football playoff selections. And I think for the 27 00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:50.959 most part it was pretty healthy debate. But like some 28 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:56.200 claiming that the SEC schedule the SEC teams in their 29 00:01:56.239 --> 00:01:59.480 non conference schedule was so tough and it wasn't factored in, 30 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:03.439 so why should why should the SEC teams continue to 31 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:05.959 schedule anybody that's worth the damn in the non conference 32 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:08.560 And I just think it's it's so stupid to say that, 33 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:12.560 like that is not why Alabama didn't get in. Alabama 34 00:02:12.639 --> 00:02:14.319 lost to Oklahoma. That has nothing to do with your 35 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:17.639 non conference schedule, Like you didn't schedule Oklahoma and go 36 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:19.240 out there to try. I mean, first of all, Oaklham 37 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:22.319 isn't good. But I just don't understand the SC like 38 00:02:22.479 --> 00:02:26.919 the SEC, not everybody, of course, and you can't put 39 00:02:26.919 --> 00:02:29.800 everybody under the same umbrella. But I feel like some 40 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:32.719 SEC fans live in their own world, in their own bubble. 41 00:02:33.520 --> 00:02:38.000 It's like this elitist mindset. And Lane Kiffin was the 42 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:40.840 worst as far as just saying things that really hadn't 43 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:43.280 like that had nothing to do with why he wasn't 44 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:45.840 going to get into the playoff. He lost to Kentucky 45 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:50.240 at home. That alone is why you did not get 46 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:53.960 in for the most part. Now, it's probably some other 47 00:02:54.000 --> 00:02:55.719 things too, like maybe if you maybe you still don't 48 00:02:55.960 --> 00:02:57.960 safely get in if in fact you don't slip up 49 00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:01.319 and lose. But that is that is say data point 50 00:03:01.520 --> 00:03:04.360 when you only have twelve to work with, That quite 51 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:07.120 literally is going to eliminate you from consideration when there's 52 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:10.120 only twelve spots in the field and other teams you know, 53 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:12.159 don't have that data point. 54 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:12.759 Right. 55 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:16.520 Yes, you did beat Georgia and that was cool, but 56 00:03:17.919 --> 00:03:22.159 that alone doesn't remove the fact that you have a 57 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:23.639 really bad loss on your resume. 58 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:25.120 I just don't. 59 00:03:26.039 --> 00:03:28.960 And the SEC only like if you think your league 60 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:31.360 is so tough and so and you should just be 61 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:34.879 given like your record should be totally different, it should 62 00:03:34.919 --> 00:03:38.039 be viewed totally differently than others that play a night 63 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:43.120 conference game. And at that point, nobody would claim that 64 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:45.000 you're losing to bad teams, right because you know the 65 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:46.599 SEC is just so great. I just don't look, I 66 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:49.159 don't know what I mean. I think the more time 67 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:51.520 that passes, as I discussed in the first hour, the 68 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:55.360 more it seems quite clear there's nobody that didn't get 69 00:03:55.360 --> 00:03:58.800 in that can't look in the mirror and just blame themselves. 70 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:00.960 They doesn't look like they're sound like they're doing that, 71 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:05.319 but I mean, and I think where they really tell 72 00:04:05.319 --> 00:04:08.759 on themselves without knowing it is when they talk about 73 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:13.159 talent and they talk about what NFL scouts who go 74 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:17.040 to the practices say about the loaded SEC compared to 75 00:04:17.079 --> 00:04:21.519 every other conference. Well, okay, I mean cool, but that 76 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:26.120 doesn't have anything to do with the criteria to be 77 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:28.800 one of the twelve teams that makes the college football playoff. 78 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:32.639 I mean, how many times can you think of in 79 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:37.000 college basketball where a team didn't make the tournament but 80 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:41.920 you know they not only like should have been better, 81 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:44.759 but like they've got talent to where there's just no 82 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:46.680 excuse for them to have had the type of season 83 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:49.480 that they had, but yet you know they didn't get 84 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:51.240 it done, Like they didn't even make the bubble because 85 00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:53.839 they just were very underwhelming, Like the games and the 86 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:57.319 results has to matter more than anything. And why that 87 00:04:57.399 --> 00:05:03.480 hasn't registered with some people, I just I really don't know. 88 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:04.319 I don't know. 89 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:06.439 All right, again, it's Coffee and Company and we are 90 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:08.639 feel about Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven to ninety. 91 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:13.879 So this Louisville UTEP game tomorrow, it's I mean, I 92 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:15.920 wouldn't call it a trap game. Louisville is in need 93 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:17.519 of a win in a major way. They've lost three 94 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:19.720 in a row. Now they've been to good teams, but still, 95 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:22.079 you know this is this is actually low key one 96 00:05:22.120 --> 00:05:23.959 of those games, like you better not mess around and 97 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:29.560 lose because you know UTEP is I would say, I 98 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:32.959 guess there's somewhat on the Winthrop radar, but you know, 99 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:36.040 they're not Morehead, they're not Bellerman, and really, right now, 100 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:40.680 Louisville is a five and four basketball team that outside 101 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:45.800 of three games, I mean, they've played legitimate competition teams 102 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:48.560 that are from the power level. I mean, you had Morehead, 103 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:51.759 Bellerman and Winthrop. Outside of that, it's been Tennessee, Indiana, 104 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:54.360 West Virginia, Oklahoma, Ole Miss and Duke. 105 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:54.879 So UTEP. 106 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:57.959 No disrespect to them, they're they're not in the same 107 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:02.399 class as the four teams that you've lost to, and 108 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:05.000 of course the Indiana and the West Virginia wins that 109 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:07.439 you have. But you know, I would say they're substantially 110 00:06:07.480 --> 00:06:09.519 better than Morehead and Bellerman and maybe they are on 111 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:12.160 the Winthrop is technically a little bit behind them. But 112 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:15.199 UTEP right now is one fifty one in the Kimpong 113 00:06:16.120 --> 00:06:19.639 and they have really no wins to speak of. I mean, 114 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:21.480 I could kind of nerd out for you if you'd like, 115 00:06:22.120 --> 00:06:25.519 when it comes to like Division one, mid major, low 116 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:29.319 major basketball. But you know, they actually did beat a 117 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:32.399 UC Santa Barber team that's pretty decent like for that level. 118 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:35.160 Same thing with UNCG, so you know they've beaten good 119 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:38.639 teams at that level. But they have some bad losses. 120 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:40.319 They lost to San Jose State, who's in the two 121 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:42.519 hundreds of the kim Palm. They've lost to Utah Valley, 122 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:44.759 who is right around two hundred. 123 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:45.759 So ken Pom. 124 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:48.720 Projects this Louisville UTEP game will be a seventy eight 125 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:53.199 to sixty five victory for Louisville, So you should win. 126 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:54.959 And I'm trying to see if we've got a spread 127 00:06:54.959 --> 00:06:57.399 for this one yet we may. In fact, usually by 128 00:06:57.439 --> 00:06:59.120 now we do. I'll look it up real quick here. 129 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:04.279 But either the bulletin board material that I referenced earlier 130 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:06.199 at the end of the three o'clock hour, a little 131 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:07.800 bit of an I don't I doubt that. I mean, 132 00:07:07.800 --> 00:07:09.839 this is not necessary. I wouldn't call this, you know, 133 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:13.319 trash talking. But if you were looking for some kind 134 00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:15.319 of an edge. And I don't really get the sense 135 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:16.959 of Pat Kelsey's like that. I don't think he's out 136 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:20.199 there looking to see what players or coaches say. 137 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:20.680 About his team. 138 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:22.480 I mean maybe he does, and look, whatever works right, 139 00:07:22.519 --> 00:07:24.160 you got to find an edge. You gotta stay motivated. 140 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:26.879 But one of the players, one of the big one 141 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:30.639 with the front court players for UTEP, Derek Hamilton, he says, 142 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:34.360 they feel really good, very confident. I feel like we're 143 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:36.160 gonna pull it off. We're going to continue to work 144 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:38.560 hard and not forget who we are. I don't really 145 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:39.959 know what that means as far as you know, not 146 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:43.399 good who we are. But this is their first really 147 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:46.959 big test of the season, meaning UTEP like they've not 148 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:49.199 played and heck, they have a couple of losses to 149 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:51.360 teams that I mentioned that aren't very good, but like 150 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:55.399 they've not played a team in the top one forty 151 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:57.800 or one thirty of the kin Palm and they're about 152 00:07:57.800 --> 00:07:59.720 to play Louisville, who you know, Let's be real, Louisville 153 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:03.160 is vulnerable right now, and teams in recent years have 154 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:05.240 shown that you can come to the Young Center and 155 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:08.079 beat a proud program like Louisville when they're down. But 156 00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:12.240 I think the level of down is I mean right now, 157 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:15.240 I think they're down just because they because they're they've 158 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:18.360 got so many injuries. And that's that's where I just 159 00:08:18.439 --> 00:08:20.680 keep going back to this roller coaster thing for Louisville 160 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:25.120 because they did just you know, compete and really outplay 161 00:08:25.199 --> 00:08:27.920 Duke for thirty minutes. It doesn't mean anything on your resume. 162 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:31.279 You still lost the game by eleven points. But I'm 163 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:34.919 telling you, man, I took some positives from that and 164 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:36.919 it makes it to where, you know, I know, you 165 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:39.039 got to come ready to play. Your margin for air 166 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:41.559 is very very thin, because you know, you. 167 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:42.559 Just you're not. 168 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:47.159 I mean, you have very little room for air when 169 00:08:47.200 --> 00:08:49.519 you are as thin as this team is. And I 170 00:08:49.559 --> 00:08:52.320 think if you have games where you turn the ball 171 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:54.559 over more than your opponent, you don't, you know, you 172 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:57.120 shoot it really poorly from three like you did against 173 00:08:57.279 --> 00:09:00.759 Ole Miss, then you know you could probably lose to anybody. 174 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:04.399 Maybe not anybody, but like you know, I disclaimer, I'm 175 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:07.000 aware that like Louisville needs to come and play well 176 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:09.759 and they can't take anybody lightly, and I don't think 177 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:13.000 that they will. But it'd be nice to continue to 178 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:17.559 work on sort of life without prior life without Coran 179 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:21.720 Johnson in this game tomorrow where you know you're gonna 180 00:09:21.720 --> 00:09:23.559 get a little bit of a break. And I hate 181 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:26.559 to say that, because trust me, I know Louisville could 182 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:28.480 mess around and lose. I don't think they will, but 183 00:09:29.480 --> 00:09:31.879 you've got you know, you've had three straight losses. The 184 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:34.159 last time you played a team of this of this 185 00:09:34.279 --> 00:09:36.639 caliber was before you took off to go to the Bahamas. 186 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:39.159 So I don't want to look at it as like 187 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:41.840 a break where you get you get a chance to 188 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:45.279 play somebody that you know isn't as serious of a threat, 189 00:09:45.320 --> 00:09:47.399 but that's kind of what it is. But more than anything, 190 00:09:47.799 --> 00:09:51.240 it's another chance to go out there. And I don't 191 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:53.480 want to say create your new identity because I think 192 00:09:54.039 --> 00:09:56.879 you're still going to see this team, for the most 193 00:09:56.960 --> 00:10:00.799 part look and play similar or to the way Pat 194 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:03.320 Kelsey's always wanted this team to play. But there's there's 195 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:06.679 some variation going on and some adjustments that have had 196 00:10:06.679 --> 00:10:08.480 to be made just because they're not this I mean, 197 00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:11.799 he he doesn't even have the bodies to play the 198 00:10:12.679 --> 00:10:15.039 way that he wanted to play this year because because 199 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:18.039 of these injuries. So we'll talk a little more hoops 200 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:19.799 with C. L. Brown coming up here before too long, 201 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:24.120 but I will say one thing I am hoping that 202 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:28.440 we see tomorrow is just more minutes for Kahani Ruce. 203 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:33.320 I mean, I I don't know if if you know, 204 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:37.679 it's just truly because he's a freshman and everybody else 205 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:42.000 is is I mean, everybody else that's playing minutes. They're veterans, 206 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:44.000 they played a lot of college basketball. But I feel 207 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:47.600 like anytime Kahanni Rous does get some extended run and 208 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:50.399 he is a little more aggressive, Like I'm thinking, Okay, 209 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:53.399 surely by now the staff has seen that this guy 210 00:10:53.480 --> 00:10:56.799 needs all the minutes he can get because one, he's 211 00:10:57.200 --> 00:10:59.720 I mean, he's got some ability that guys on this 212 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:01.960 team have. I think he's also got some energy about 213 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:05.799 him that you know, maybe could minimize the absence of 214 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:08.440 prior a little bit. And you know, his stat line 215 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:11.759 against Duke was really really solid, So you know, the 216 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:15.000 stat line doesn't show every everything. Maybe he was you know, 217 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:18.080 out of position defensively at times, or I mean, I 218 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:18.399 don't know. 219 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:21.039 I just I feel like even if you. 220 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:25.159 Wanted to kind of ease Kahanie Russen to his you know, 221 00:11:25.159 --> 00:11:27.000 to his college career as a freshman, because you had 222 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:29.159 a lot of veterans, well now you don't. And now 223 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:31.080 I don't think, you know, take take away the fact 224 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:33.440 that he's a freshman. You only have seven guys that 225 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:35.399 you really can trust. And I feel like despite him 226 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:38.200 being young, he's certainly got a lot of talent. And 227 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:40.960 the more he plays, I feel like the more he 228 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:43.600 will no longer look like a freshman. I mean, I'll 229 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:46.440 be honest with you. Against against Duke, I didn't feel 230 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:48.559 like he was a freshman out there. He's playing with confidence. 231 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:52.279 He had some you know, some some attitude to him, 232 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:54.600 and I mean that in a good way. So you know, 233 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:56.600 I don't want to act like, hey, they give this 234 00:11:56.639 --> 00:11:59.000 guy thirty plus minutes a game, then everything's gonna be okay. 235 00:11:59.000 --> 00:12:01.159 And Louel won't miss case and prior at all. But 236 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:04.399 to me, you know, I thought that if the Duke 237 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:06.360 game was in any way like a test for him, 238 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:08.039 which I doubt it was, that's just not really how 239 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:10.639 Pat seems to go about things. But I feel like 240 00:12:10.679 --> 00:12:13.200 if they review the film there, they would realize, Okay, 241 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:16.480 not to say that the guy's completely ready. He's still 242 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:18.600 going to make some freshman mistakes, but there's something there 243 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:21.960 and I hope that we see you know, and look, 244 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:23.639 I'm not saying you got to start him, but like 245 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:26.080 if it's him and Terrence Edwards coming off the bench, 246 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:29.279 I'd say those are two guys that you know. As 247 00:12:29.320 --> 00:12:30.879 long as they're still getting a lot of minutes despite 248 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:32.720 coming off the bench, I'd say that's that's your best 249 00:12:32.759 --> 00:12:33.360 case scenario. 250 00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:35.159 All right. 251 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:37.559 This question came in on the Ellen and Federal Credit 252 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:39.679 Union tax line five h two six five three zero 253 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:42.080 seven nineties the number if you would like to text 254 00:12:42.120 --> 00:12:44.759 in This text says Nick, I see programs around the 255 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:48.360 country in both basketball and football that are hiring gms 256 00:12:48.399 --> 00:12:50.559 to manage the roster and manage nil Do you know 257 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:53.799 if Louisville has any plans to add those positions to 258 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:57.159 the staff. It's a good question and I don't have 259 00:12:57.200 --> 00:13:01.000 the answer for you, but that is becoming one of 260 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:06.639 the more important positions out there now. I will say 261 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:12.399 it really comes down to what like does your head 262 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:15.120 coach does he want to be more hands on or 263 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:19.480 does he is he somebody that truly wants to completely 264 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:22.960 be removed from all that stuff altogether? And there really 265 00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:25.240 is no right or wrong. I guess it just depends 266 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:28.720 on you know, your your your style as a coach, 267 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:30.480 what you like, what you think you're good at. Like, 268 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:33.720 for example, there are certain coaches that are phenomenal when 269 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:37.360 it comes to you know, being a football coach recruiting players, uh, 270 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:42.080 and you know x's and o's that kind of stuff, 271 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:45.320 and that stuff still matters, trust me, that stuff has value, 272 00:13:45.519 --> 00:13:49.080 but it's now just one of the components. 273 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:50.279 To to to to to the job. 274 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:54.000 And there may be like for example, like I don't know, 275 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:56.519 like Jeff Brohm, I think he's pretty hands on to 276 00:13:56.559 --> 00:13:59.039 where he probably isn't gonna want to have a GM 277 00:13:59.080 --> 00:14:01.840 now he's going to have resources to help him with 278 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:05.080 like nil stuff and just I guess, you know, managing everything. 279 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:09.559 But as far as like an actual GM that is 280 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:14.120 out there looking because again, a GM in the professional 281 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:18.000 level of sports, those are guys building the team. You're 282 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:20.159 never gonna see that in college at least, I don't 283 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:23.919 think so. The GM role in the college game would be. 284 00:14:23.879 --> 00:14:24.360 More so. 285 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:30.600 I guess just navigating how you get I mean basically 286 00:14:30.679 --> 00:14:33.080 getting to the table to have a conversation with somebody 287 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:36.000 when it comes to nil, right, like, hey, uh, let's 288 00:14:36.120 --> 00:14:37.200 let's bring the GM in. 289 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:38.960 Let me introduce you to the GM. 290 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:42.000 Here so they can talk to you about that component 291 00:14:42.039 --> 00:14:44.600 of what we're offering. Right, We're gonna offer you a scholarship, 292 00:14:44.759 --> 00:14:47.480 and we're gonna offer you an opportunity to wear this uniform, 293 00:14:47.519 --> 00:14:49.559 and that that you know, we all know that that 294 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:52.480 now isn't isn't good enough. You're gonna need to have 295 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:55.919 the nil component as well. So I have no clue 296 00:14:55.919 --> 00:14:58.320 if if if Louisville's looking to make a make a 297 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:01.840 higher there, but U you know you're seeing it across 298 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:04.799 the country as you mentioned, and I really don't even 299 00:15:04.879 --> 00:15:08.080 know what kind of like what kind of background most 300 00:15:08.159 --> 00:15:11.879 those people have they'd end up in that role, But 301 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:13.879 it's certainly important. I would say it's way more important 302 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:16.159 in football than it is in basketball, But you're seeing 303 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:19.559 it in both sports across the country where folks realize, hey, 304 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:22.879 we need somebody who it's a full time job for them, 305 00:15:23.159 --> 00:15:25.919 and they're putting every ounce of energy they have into, 306 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:29.559 you know, managing the NIL situation and. 307 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:31.720 Help them. 308 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:33.279 I mean, I don't know, do you help raise money? 309 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:34.720 If you're if you work for the school, can you 310 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:38.039 help raise money? It's I'm sure it's not as much 311 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:40.320 of a gray area as it appears to be to 312 00:15:40.399 --> 00:15:42.679 me because I'm not as plugged in on it as 313 00:15:42.679 --> 00:15:44.960 maybe some others are. But like, I'm not even really 314 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:47.399 sure what you can and can't do when it comes 315 00:15:47.440 --> 00:15:50.159 to nil. Like didn't didn't Florida State just a year 316 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:52.879 ago get in trouble for telling a recruit or a 317 00:15:52.879 --> 00:15:56.320 transfer they should go talk to the collective about nil. 318 00:15:56.360 --> 00:15:58.159 And somehow that was like against the rules. I mean, 319 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:00.480 that made no sense. I thought, that's whatever nobody thought 320 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:02.600 they were supposed to do in order to, you know, 321 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:06.000 not get in trouble. But yeah, you're you're seeing it 322 00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:08.759 across the country and and and honestly, it became a 323 00:16:08.759 --> 00:16:11.240 bigger talking point nationally because Andrew Luck of course, just 324 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:14.279 took the job with Stanford where he played, and obviously 325 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:16.679 he's a very qualified individual. 326 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:18.679 I'd say to uh to have that position. 327 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:22.240 And we all know Wojes left the NBA reporting world 328 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:24.360 to go do it for Saint Bonaventure, his alma mater. 329 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:27.759 So if Louisville was going to go in that direction, 330 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:31.440 I'm not really sure who would make the most sense. 331 00:16:31.519 --> 00:16:33.399 But it didn't have to be somebody that played here 332 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:35.960 has a connection. I mean, that'd be it'd be preferable 333 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:39.399 if if that is an option, but you know I wouldn't. 334 00:16:39.399 --> 00:16:41.360 I wouldn't be shocked if in five six years every 335 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:44.480 program has one and Uh, it becomes somebody that you're 336 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:46.360 as familiar with as you are the head coach. I 337 00:16:46.360 --> 00:16:49.720 mean that sounds crazy, but I wouldn't be shocked if 338 00:16:49.759 --> 00:16:52.320 we end up there. All right, quick break, come back 339 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:53.919 on the other side, we will bring in the one 340 00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:57.159 and only cl Brown of the Courier Journal talk a 341 00:16:57.200 --> 00:17:00.919 little bit of college hoops. You know, it doesn't feel 342 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:02.279 like it, I know I talked about at the beginning 343 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:02.600 of the show. 344 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:03.480 Does not feel like it. 345 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:07.000 But we are just five days away from this matchup 346 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:10.240 between Louisville and Kentucky, and man, I wish circumstances were 347 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:14.319 different because Louisville is really really hurting with injuries, still 348 00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:17.480 playing hard, but man, there thin in Kentucky. They've got 349 00:17:17.519 --> 00:17:19.680 a ton of momentum after that win agains Gonzagas. So 350 00:17:20.240 --> 00:17:21.680 we'll talk about that and a lot more with Cel 351 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:23.480 Brown coming up next. Right here, it is Coffee and 352 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:27.319 Company Fieldbuth Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. Welcome back 353 00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:30.599 Coffee and Company Field by Thornton's here on Sports Talk 354 00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:33.319 seven ninety. Appreciate you hanging out with us here on 355 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:36.200 a Tuesday afternoon, and we certainly appreciate mister C. L. 356 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:39.000 Brown of the Courier Journal, who joins us to talk 357 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:41.440 about a lot of things. We'll start with Louisville basketball. 358 00:17:42.920 --> 00:17:46.720 What did you make of Louisville's performance against Duke? Competitive 359 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:48.400 In fact, led for a good chunk of the game, 360 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:51.359 roughly thirty minutes, and then Duke kind of did what 361 00:17:51.400 --> 00:17:53.799 a lot of people probably thought Duke would do from 362 00:17:53.839 --> 00:17:56.960 start to finish. But you know, I know, eleven point 363 00:17:56.960 --> 00:17:59.759 losses for Louisville basketball is never something fans around here 364 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:02.960 to be happy with and want to celebrate. But just me, 365 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:05.599 and I know not everybody agrees. I actually thought there was 366 00:18:05.640 --> 00:18:08.880 some positives from that performance, just knowing that they're trying 367 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:11.880 to kind of maybe not reinvent themselves, but obviously what 368 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:13.559 they wanted to be as far as a team, how 369 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:15.519 they wanted to play. They're gonna have to change that 370 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:17.160 a little bit with all these injuries. Just what were 371 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:18.960 your thoughts on what you saw from Pat Kelsey's team 372 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:20.440 against one of the best teams in the country. 373 00:18:21.880 --> 00:18:24.759 Yeah, I thought the adjustments that Pat Kelsey made first 374 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:30.880 and foremost were interesting. I think they were needed. They 375 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:33.960 could have hit a few more threes in the second half, 376 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:36.640 maybe it would have been that much more interesting down 377 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:41.079 the stretch, but I think it just it was encouraging, 378 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:45.680 as encouraging as an eleven point loss could be. That 379 00:18:46.119 --> 00:18:49.839 when we saw the other two Power four conference teams 380 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:52.640 come to them Center Tennessee first and an Ole miss, 381 00:18:53.559 --> 00:18:56.559 they led all of thirty seconds. I think in those 382 00:18:56.599 --> 00:19:00.519 two games combined. When they played Duke, there was a 383 00:19:01.160 --> 00:19:03.519 a I don't even know how to describe it, but 384 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:08.440 there was They were different, you know, they made shots 385 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:12.480 for the first time. I feel like this season at 386 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:16.000 home with the eight of eleven from three point range 387 00:19:16.039 --> 00:19:19.640 in the first half, and you know, he switched up 388 00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:22.599 the lineup a little bit, which I think brought Terrence 389 00:19:22.759 --> 00:19:25.319 Edwards off the bench instead of in the starting lineup, 390 00:19:25.359 --> 00:19:28.079 and I think it kind of jumped started parents because 391 00:19:28.359 --> 00:19:31.200 I felt like he's kind of the guy I've been 392 00:19:31.240 --> 00:19:36.200 looking at and he hadn't played at least consistently the 393 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:39.359 way I thought he would when he got here, and 394 00:19:39.640 --> 00:19:45.319 I think that that light was definitely something encouraging coming 395 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:47.559 out of that game, and I want to see moving 396 00:19:47.599 --> 00:19:49.880 forward if he can kind of stay at that level, 397 00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:54.759 because he definitely was well. In my opinion, he definitely 398 00:19:54.759 --> 00:19:59.279 played an inspired game against Duke. And so the last 399 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:03.039 thing I took from it was rebounding might not be 400 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:05.440 as bad as I thought it was going to be. 401 00:20:05.480 --> 00:20:07.319