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<v Speaker 1>The history of the Twilight Zone in comics is almost

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<v Speaker 1>as long as the history of the show itself. Every

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<v Speaker 1>few years we get a new iteration of the Twilight

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<v Speaker 1>Zone in comic book form, and this time around it's

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<v Speaker 1>by id W So to go over this first issue

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome back to the show, my friend and veteran

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<v Speaker 1>comic book reader, mister Zach Moore. Zach, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello there, veteran comic book reader here reporting for duty.

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<v Speaker 1>So Zach. Last time we spoke it was probably on Patreon,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm not sure everybody here to hear. But you

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<v Speaker 1>were coming to the end of Smallville, and you got

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<v Speaker 1>to the end of Smallville now on your show, will

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<v Speaker 1>always hold on too Smallville. So how's retirement treating you?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you know it's good, but like a like a

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<v Speaker 2>like a good professional, it's hard to shake the game.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you can leave the game, but the game can't.

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<v Speaker 2>The game won't leave you. So here I am again

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<v Speaker 2>guesting on your show. I still have semi regular episodes

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<v Speaker 2>I put out. You know Superman movies. You know there's

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<v Speaker 2>comic books. Obviously there's comic books. So there's actually specific small,

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<v Speaker 2>little comic books, and so I'm continuing the podcast, not

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<v Speaker 2>in the regularity I was going through ten seasons, so

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<v Speaker 2>it is it is nice to not have to have

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<v Speaker 2>reached the end of the journey, as as I know

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<v Speaker 2>you will one day, Tom, you'll be able to go

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<v Speaker 2>back and watch the Twilight Zone, like for fun. I

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<v Speaker 2>can now go back and watch Smallville for fun, because

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<v Speaker 2>when people, you know, when you're doing it TV show podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast about a TV show, you don't just throw

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<v Speaker 2>on a random episode for fun, right, because it's like

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta do your Oh, let me read this article

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<v Speaker 2>or interview and let me oh, let me take these notes,

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<v Speaker 2>and how am I gonna hold there's a screencap here

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<v Speaker 2>of this problem. You're thinking that you're watching it a

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<v Speaker 2>whole different way that you do as a fan, and

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<v Speaker 2>we know what we got into, right. This is not

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<v Speaker 2>a complaint, This is just a comment. So but now

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<v Speaker 2>the work is done. Now I can just randomly watch

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<v Speaker 2>an episode of novel and it's fun. So anyway, that's

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<v Speaker 2>how it's going for me, Tom.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the thing because I did season one of

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<v Speaker 1>the Twilight Zone like fifteen years ago, so there's episodes

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<v Speaker 1>of that show that I haven't seen in that long

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm always on the next one, you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>it will be nice to sit back and just enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the twilight Zone zone again. But I do enjoy doing

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<v Speaker 1>this bo I also enjoy when something just comes out

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<v Speaker 1>of the blue with the Twilight Zone on it, like

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<v Speaker 1>this comic book. Now, we did an episode, Zach, where

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<v Speaker 1>we went through like the whole dynamite run of the

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<v Speaker 1>Twilight Zone, well most of it anyway, because there's the

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<v Speaker 1>twelve book series by J. Michael Strazinski. Then there was

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<v Speaker 1>a four book mini series, Twilight Zone The Shadow, and

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<v Speaker 1>then there is the Shadow and Substance mini series that

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<v Speaker 1>also had a few one shots and an annual, and

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<v Speaker 1>they collected it together in that book. If you're thinking back, Zach,

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<v Speaker 1>when do you think that came out?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow? Oh that was a while back. Let me think

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<v Speaker 2>it was before we went to serling Fest together though,

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<v Speaker 2>because we hadn't met in person first, so I got

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<v Speaker 2>to say twenty gosh, twenty seventeen, tom.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think they had the license around twenty fourteen. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so when I looked at that today because I was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, brushing up on my Twilight Zone comics store,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, twenty fourteen. I couldn't believe it. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe that that much time had passed because I remember

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<v Speaker 1>doing that episode with you quite vividly. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of we went through each of the issues and

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<v Speaker 1>it was that Collected Shadow and Substance book that we

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<v Speaker 1>went through, and I still remember the one about the

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<v Speaker 1>Renaissance Fair was like, I remember, why are they punishing

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<v Speaker 1>this guy so much for like.

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<v Speaker 2>In I know we didn't. I know, we didn't do

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<v Speaker 2>it in twenty fourteen, though, no, we must have done

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<v Speaker 2>it years after that, But no, it wasn't. It was okay,

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<v Speaker 2>between twenty fourteen and twenty eighteen we did that podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a lot of fun because I think that

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<v Speaker 2>was either one of my first appearances on the on

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<v Speaker 2>the main show here, and we had a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a lot of comic books you read, and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of them it was hit or miss tom

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<v Speaker 2>as I recall, it was our verdict at the.

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<v Speaker 1>End, definitely hit all miss. And I think it's such

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<v Speaker 1>a strange history with the Twilight zoning comics, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there was those initial gold key ones and

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<v Speaker 1>then every few years the company gets it and they're

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<v Speaker 1>like we're doing the Twilight Zone again, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's bells and whistles, then it kind of comes out

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<v Speaker 1>and then it fizzles away a little bit. It's always

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be like that, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, not that dissimilar from the reboots of the

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<v Speaker 2>show itself, right, I mean there's been three reboots of

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<v Speaker 2>the show, plus the movie and the TV movie, and

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<v Speaker 2>so there's always like somebody has a new, fresh take

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<v Speaker 2>on it, quote unquote, and it comes out and then

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<v Speaker 2>before you know it, it's gone. And we'll see what

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<v Speaker 2>happens with this series we're talking about here, Tom.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's hope for better things, you know, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>IDW who have it? This time? It was Dynamite. Last

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<v Speaker 1>time round, they brought us that twelve book series by

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<v Speaker 1>Jane Michael Strazinski, which I think is probably the best

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<v Speaker 1>Twilight Zone we've had in comics. It was a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a different thing. But I know you like that too,

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<v Speaker 1>right I did?

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<v Speaker 2>I did. I really like Jmichael Strazinski's work. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Batlon five is a great television show, and obviously he

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<v Speaker 2>worked on the eighty show of the Twilight Zone reboots.

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<v Speaker 2>So natural Guy too. I mean, he's a comic book

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<v Speaker 2>writer as well, so perfect fit. Great stuff. I've read

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<v Speaker 2>all the things afterward that you've talked about. I have

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<v Speaker 2>never read the Old Gold Key comics. If they ever

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<v Speaker 2>came out with like a collection, I would get it

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<v Speaker 2>out of curiosity and then and then I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>when I would read it. I would probably read it

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<v Speaker 2>when you did an episode about it, but I would

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to own it and just have it.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's where i'd go on. I'm kind of surprised

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<v Speaker 2>they haven't at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, a friend of the show, ed is he has

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<v Speaker 1>one hand in comic book publishing, and he was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get that together. But I think the rights issues

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<v Speaker 1>have proven to me more difficult than he anticipated. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a few years ago now that I spoke to

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<v Speaker 1>him about it, and we haven't seen it since. But

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<v Speaker 1>the thing with those is they are a bit more

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<v Speaker 1>of a historical curio than actually anything really good. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of them are really very simplistic stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>very simplistic stuff. But we are who we are. We

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<v Speaker 1>like collecting this stuff. I'm sure if that was if

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<v Speaker 1>those were collected, I would buy them in a heartbeat.

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<v Speaker 2>You know Rod Sterling is in those right, his likeness right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So that kind of separates it from most of these

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<v Speaker 2>other things, which is the least notable in them of itself.

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<v Speaker 1>So, like I said, it's IDW who has this one,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's under their id dark in print. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know whether that's a new thing or something, but they

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<v Speaker 1>have brought out I think it's maybe a five issue

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<v Speaker 1>mini series, so maybe they're just hedging their bets as well,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of see.

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<v Speaker 2>According to the very back of the inside back cover

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<v Speaker 2>this fall, IDW invites you to enter the Twilight Zone

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<v Speaker 2>and it's the classic doorway and it's open and it

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<v Speaker 2>has issue one, two, three, four five series debut September

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five. So they at least have five plants.

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<v Speaker 2>And now if it's not successful for whatever reason, they

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<v Speaker 2>can say that we did our five as promise, and

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<v Speaker 2>if it is successful, they can make more. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's probably a good place to be, and they

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<v Speaker 2>want to test the market, they want to test the interest.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's to five and potentially five more. So.

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<v Speaker 1>This fast issue that we've both got is called Blanks.

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<v Speaker 1>It's written by Dan Waters and Morgan Beam I think

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Waters is a fellow Britt, So hello, Dan, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening. I did reach out to IDW through their

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<v Speaker 1>publicity department and I got a big, old silent response

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<v Speaker 1>from them. So so, you know, it would have been

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<v Speaker 1>nice to have some of these people on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>but hey, that's the way it goes. But I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're the same as me zach in that you're not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily at the twilight Zone needs to be in black

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<v Speaker 1>and white Guy or the TV show or any movie

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<v Speaker 1>versions that they do. I kind of feel it would

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<v Speaker 1>be a big, gimmicky, you know, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great choice for the comic book. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>difference in medium it really lends something to this. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, straight from the off, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they made a really good choice doing it in black

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<v Speaker 1>and white.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I totally agree. I think different mediums call for

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<v Speaker 2>different approaches, right, And you know, television being what it

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<v Speaker 2>was in the fifties and sixties that that was a

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<v Speaker 2>black and white TV show, and we're not in the

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<v Speaker 2>fifties or sixties anymore, so it makes sense it'd be

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<v Speaker 2>fun to have a one off episode or a one

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<v Speaker 2>off segment of a movie I think, but don't make

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing that. It's the style of it, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and when you and then how do you communicate? You

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<v Speaker 2>don't have music, you don't have actors, you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>Rod Serling. How are you going to capture the essence

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<v Speaker 2>of the Twilight Zone? You know, in a comic book

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<v Speaker 2>these days, Making a black and white one of the

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<v Speaker 2>ingredients people associated with the original I think is a

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<v Speaker 2>smart choice. And it's not totally random. There are lots

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<v Speaker 2>of black and white comics that exist out there, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's not just some weird random choice to try and

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<v Speaker 2>recapture the original show, which you'll never be able to do.

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<v Speaker 2>But capturing one of those elements is smart. And when

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<v Speaker 2>I heard, or when we saw the covers and art,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we assumed it was going to be in

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<v Speaker 2>black and white. And you know, I like that idea then,

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<v Speaker 2>and I like it now. I think it was a

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<v Speaker 2>smart choice.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think we'll talk a little bit generally fast

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<v Speaker 1>for anyone out there who hasn't picked it up yet.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we won't go spoiler heavy in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>but then I'll give you a fair warning. And when

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<v Speaker 1>they when we do get into spoiler territory. So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>try and stay quite general here. So it's in black

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<v Speaker 1>and white. It is the regular amounts of comic book pages,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems, and in the back they have a preview

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<v Speaker 1>of a Sleepy Hollow comic that they're doing as well. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have liked maybe if those pages were given

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<v Speaker 1>over to the Twilight Zone.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you know, I noticed this the IDW they have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of ads in the back, because I've got

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<v Speaker 2>other comic books of theirs before Godzilla, for example, they

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<v Speaker 2>do Godzilla, so I'm kind of used to like, the

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<v Speaker 2>last six or seven pages is going to be like

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<v Speaker 1>They gotta get people turned on to their other products,

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<v Speaker 1>so I get it. I get it. The other thing

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<v Speaker 1>So this artwork is quite stylized. What did you think

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<v Speaker 1>of the artwork, Zach?

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<v Speaker 2>I like it. It's some black and white. It's it

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<v Speaker 2>is a definite style, right, this is this is a

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<v Speaker 2>oh that looks beautiful, sign me up for ten of these,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what did you think of this? Because it

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, quite bony and long fingers and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>so it is kind of stylized. They'd probably be ideal

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<v Speaker 1>for a horror comic. And I suppose this has got

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<v Speaker 2>Know, true, I guess this is what this is, so

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's not. It's not wrong. I just would like

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<v Speaker 2>so like for example, like the covers, right, I got

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<v Speaker 2>the alternate cover with the guy on the with like

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<v Speaker 2>the spacesuit. Yeah, like that looks cool. I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that better than the cover you have with

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<v Speaker 2>like the actual main character in a hospital bed. I'm like, Eh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give this just general comment about it before we

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<v Speaker 1>almost like the body forgets to do them or something

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<v Speaker 1>along those lines. So if you take this thing, you

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<v Speaker 1>with it, give it to the whole human race, save

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<v Speaker 1>millions of lives. And that's the setup really, and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>this is the twilight zone. Edward has stomach cancer. He

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<v Speaker 1>takes the serum and then what happens after that is

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<v Speaker 1>wants to stop at this point, Zach, any kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just general impressions, your general thoughts on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a great setup. It definitely felt like

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<v Speaker 2>a Twilight Zone episode premise, you know, a rich guy

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<v Speaker 2>looking for immortality. The isolated location is good to even

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about, like what they could accomplish at the show,

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<v Speaker 2>because when you do tie in novels or tie in

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<v Speaker 2>tie in anything right, tie in anything, any multimedia, you

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<v Speaker 2>want it to be something they could have done on

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<v Speaker 2>the show. At least that's how I feel. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>like I could see, yeah, it's a remote location. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not some like they're not in some crazy futuristic city.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like they're like at a resort on an island.

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<v Speaker 2>They could have filmed that in nineteen sixty five or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's a good premise. It's a good setup.

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<v Speaker 2>And the the of course, you're you're waiting the whole

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<v Speaker 2>first half to see where this is gonna go, which

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<v Speaker 2>we are going to get into in a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's put this spoiler warning out there at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>All better off now and we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the story. So I think after I read it the

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<v Speaker 1>first time, I might not have adjusted to the format, because,

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<v Speaker 1>like I say, my comic reading is collected editions now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't go issue by issue usually maybe

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<v Speaker 1>for something like Planet of the Apeside do it. So

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<v Speaker 1>my first time reading this, it was like, Wow, that

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<v Speaker 1>was brief. You know, it was so quick that I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't quite believe that it was over when it was over.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, it seems like it's going to go

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I've read it like two or three more times

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<v Speaker 1>since to just really get a flavor for it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've adjusted. You know, at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, you've only got so many pages. You can

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<v Speaker 1>only do what you can do in it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think for what they do, it fills that spot those

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<v Speaker 1>pages pretty well. Because Edward Kine is this millionaire guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He takes to see her him and then when he

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<v Speaker 1>wakes up, everyone else on the island has got a

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<v Speaker 1>blank face. Now what he does is, well, let's not

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<v Speaker 1>get ahead of ourselves a first. When he's talking to

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<v Speaker 1>the doctor who's going to administer this stuff, he's like man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm just going to miss people so much.

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<v Speaker 1>The human race is an amazing thing. We're also different. Yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so you actually think you know what This

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<v Speaker 1>guy's okay. You know he likes humanity, he likes the

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<v Speaker 1>diversity of humanity. He's not your typical Twilight Zone bad guy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great point because I read it a couple

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<v Speaker 2>times of myself, and the first time I read it,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, hmm, okay, But when I read it again,

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<v Speaker 2>I pick up more on that stuff of like where

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<v Speaker 2>the guys coming from. It's like, I want to meet

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<v Speaker 2>people there are in the world. I want to meet

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<v Speaker 2>them all. They're all so different, we all what did

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<v Speaker 2>you have for breakfast? Something different than me? We're all

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<v Speaker 2>so individual and that's so interesting, and so knowing what

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<v Speaker 2>happens at the end like that adds a whole another

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<v Speaker 2>layer to it, which made me joyed and appreciate it

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more than I think maybe I did the

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<v Speaker 2>first read.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely, I think there's definitely a bit of acclimatization to it.

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<v Speaker 1>So he takes this, he gets given this serum, and

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<v Speaker 1>when he wakes up, well, what did.

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<v Speaker 2>You what did you think was going to happen, like,

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<v Speaker 2>what did you Was he going to wake up like

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<v Speaker 2>in the future? Were they gonna be robots or apes?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what? I thought? Maybe he was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>like the future or something, or I don't know, what

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<v Speaker 2>did you do? You have any guests whatever was going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't because the thing is the story is called Blanks,

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<v Speaker 1>and you see him on the hospital bed on the cover,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know he's going to wake up and everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>face is going to be blank, which is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you going to do? You can't really hide that,

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose, But I was thinking to myself, well, hold

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<v Speaker 1>on a minute, why would him take in something make

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else's face go blank? That's just crazy unless it

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<v Speaker 1>was some kind of internal madness that he had where

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't see people's faces anymore. So I've got to

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<v Speaker 1>say I never had any idea what it might be.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were thinking the future or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like he'd wake up and it was a thousand

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<v Speaker 2>years and all we put you in cry over freeze

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<v Speaker 2>and here we go. But now we've evolved to this

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<v Speaker 2>point now, or this monoculture or something like that. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought maybe that might be what they do. I like

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<v Speaker 2>what they do better than that. Just for the record,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying they should have done that. That's just

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<v Speaker 2>me guessing. Like obviously, when a guy wakes up and

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's gone, something has gone wrong and he's gonna find

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<v Speaker 2>out what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And what it is, and like I say, spoilers. So

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<v Speaker 1>basically he is patient zero. But when this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>viral element of the drug has passed on to other

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<v Speaker 1>people on the island, he is immune to it because

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<v Speaker 1>he's patient zero. But what it does when it moves

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<v Speaker 1>to other people, it's mutated, and it strips away everything

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<v Speaker 1>that is individual about them, including their face. So all

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<v Speaker 1>you're left with is this kind of wandering husk of

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<v Speaker 1>a person, basically with no personality, no way of looking

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<v Speaker 1>or speaking to you, just these blank faces. And when

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<v Speaker 1>you said they could do this in the original show,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes you think, how great would this be in

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<v Speaker 1>the original show?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I think they definitely could do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you just put a little I mean a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of prosthetics under somebody's face to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>smooth out the underneath, and then put like a some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of sock cover on their head. I mean, like

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<v Speaker 2>something smooth and a wig and a hat, and you

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<v Speaker 2>could tell that would be unsettling. This would be one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most unsettling, you know, instances of the Twilights,

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<v Speaker 2>and it'd be not up there with the big people

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<v Speaker 2>and all that stuff, but it'd be one of those

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<v Speaker 2>images because you think, yeah, there's a lot of like

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<v Speaker 2>Twilight Zone DNA in this, which is great. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what you want. You want what you know, but

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<v Speaker 2>you want a new twist on it. So it's like

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<v Speaker 2>somebody looking for immortality the price living forever. There's always

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, a catch to that. He wakes up

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<v Speaker 2>and he says, where is everybody? All right? Look at that?

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<v Speaker 2>Like somebody knows the show running around the hospital, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like either beholder. So there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>those elements in there. So yeah, I like that. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that was great and I think that would have

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<v Speaker 2>been a really cool, fun visual gimmick they absolutely could

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<v Speaker 2>have done back then.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to go off on a slight tangent, there is

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<v Speaker 1>a British TV show I think they made it in

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the seventies or eighties called Sapphire and Steel, very strange,

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<v Speaker 1>very off the wall, and if I remember, rightly, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a being in one of those episodes who looked

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<v Speaker 1>exactly like this, no features, and it was extremely creepy,

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<v Speaker 1>very off the wall kind of show. I suppose it

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<v Speaker 1>does share a bit of DNA with the Twilight Zone,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's out there, you know, if people want to

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<v Speaker 1>look that up. So basically Edward Kine, he manages to

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<v Speaker 1>find the doctor who administered this to him, just before

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<v Speaker 1>the doctor's humanity is completely gone, and he explains to him, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're immune bought. Everyone else is, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you go off this island, you're just going to wipe

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<v Speaker 1>out individuality from humanity.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's why he's trying to destroy the helicopter. Brother,

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<v Speaker 2>he's like as a lighter, he's going to like blow

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<v Speaker 2>up the helicopter, set it on fire, and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why he's doing it. Anthlete talks to him, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they mentioned it. The cure worked, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, he feels young, he doesn't have his stomach

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<v Speaker 2>cancer anymore, he's running, he feels great. So again he

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Absolutely so, Edward Kine, this guy who at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning was like preaching about how great humanity was with

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<v Speaker 1>all of its differences. He now has a choice. Does

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<v Speaker 1>he stay on the island with these blank faced creatures

421
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<v Speaker 1>or does he go out into the world where this

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<v Speaker 1>will spread more and essentially will end up wiping out

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<v Speaker 1>humanity into these faceless things. It's a real test for

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<v Speaker 1>what he said earlier on in the book, because he

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<v Speaker 1>makes the decision that he's going to go out into

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<v Speaker 1>the world and he says, well, that might be a

427
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<v Speaker 1>people who you're immune, you know, So all of that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of good will he had built up at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out that he's actually not that guy at all,

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<v Speaker 1>and quite selfishly his immortality that he has now, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I mean, what do you make of the

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<v Speaker 1>end of this act, because there's a there's a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of things that where he he's going out there basically

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, I don't care, you know, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to go out there and he knows what's going to happen,

436
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<v Speaker 1>a very selfish thing now, or he could also end

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<v Speaker 1>up just as a prisoner of the world he's created,

438
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<v Speaker 1>where you know, he's the only one with any consciousness.

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<v Speaker 1>So what what do you make of the end of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean that's ultimately what's gonna happen to him, right,

441
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<v Speaker 2>I mean he's he's taking these short term selfish out

442
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<v Speaker 2>to make a long term selfish out because he's gonna

443
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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna he's gonna spread this and it's gonna go

444
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<v Speaker 2>across the entire world. And yeah, his justification to himself

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah, you know, there might be other people who

446
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<v Speaker 2>are immune. You don't know. It's like that's how you

447
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<v Speaker 2>know that you're making a BADGHO when you're saying stuff

448
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<v Speaker 2>like that trying to justify it. He even tells the doctor.

449
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<v Speaker 2>He's like, yeah, you understand, right, because I can't miss

450
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<v Speaker 2>my son's birthday or if he says that in there somewhere,

451
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<v Speaker 2>and uh, yeah, that's that's a very dark ending, right,

452
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<v Speaker 2>and it's align with a lot of dark apocalyptic Twilight

453
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<v Speaker 2>Zone episode endings and yeah, and like, like you, I

454
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<v Speaker 2>was taking it back because it ends with him this

455
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<v Speaker 2>helicopters taken off, and I'm like, oh, onto the third act.

456
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<v Speaker 2>There's no third act. This is the end. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you think about Twilight Zone episodes in their structure, like

458
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<v Speaker 2>this is actually very true to that. You know, we

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<v Speaker 2>think about like time enough at last, like this bomb

460
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<v Speaker 2>goes off like two thirds the way through the episode

461
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<v Speaker 2>or something, and then it's this last climax and it's

462
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<v Speaker 2>the end, you know. And then's something like this as well,

463
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<v Speaker 2>like he wakes up from this injection and he's running

464
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<v Speaker 2>around and has this conversation and then it's the end.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, rereading it, I definitely appreciate it more. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's he is ultimately going to be a prisoner of

467
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<v Speaker 2>his own choice. And he's not that's the thing, right,

468
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<v Speaker 2>Like you said, he's not like a bad dude as

469
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<v Speaker 2>far as like his intentions, right, but ultimately he makes

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<v Speaker 2>it extremely self a choice that is going to wipe

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<v Speaker 2>out humanity. So walk the walk, talk the talk. When

472
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<v Speaker 2>it came down to it, he made the bat. Now,

473
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<v Speaker 2>who would want to live on this island? No? What

474
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<v Speaker 2>of course, But I don't know. Now, you're going to

475
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<v Speaker 2>make the whole world like this island. So it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's a it's a good, uh moral quandary at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean, I don't know what I do in

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<v Speaker 2>that situation. I mean I don't I mean, that would

479
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<v Speaker 2>suck to stay there, but I wouldn't want to kill

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else, so I'm glad we're not in that position.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Me too. So overall, I think the right of

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Watters has a has a really good handle on

483
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<v Speaker 1>what makes the Twilight Zone the Twilight Zone. And like

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<v Speaker 1>I say, I did have to adjust slightly to the

485
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<v Speaker 1>brevity of it, but that's comic books. You know, You've

486
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<v Speaker 1>only got those pages to work with, so what are

487
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<v Speaker 1>you going to do. But I think once you are acclimatized,

488
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<v Speaker 1>he fills it really well. I think it will be

489
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<v Speaker 1>even better at the end of this five issue run

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<v Speaker 1>when you have a a collected edition where you're just

491
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<v Speaker 1>going from story to story to story, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that is going to reframe this in a really nice way.

493
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<v Speaker 1>But I think talking about this issue on its own,

494
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<v Speaker 1>I was really quite happy with it, and I really

495
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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed it. There's good instincts of what made the Twilight Zone,

496
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<v Speaker 1>and I think straight away, apart from maybe that Strazinski

497
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<v Speaker 1>run which is reshaping the Twilight Zone anyway, because that

498
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<v Speaker 1>was like all different people encountering the Twilight Zone and

499
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<v Speaker 1>the stories overlappen, so it's almost the thing in and

500
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<v Speaker 1>of itself. But I would say straight away with issue one,

501
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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of feeling more positive about this than I

502
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<v Speaker 1>did with any of those shadow and substance stories from Dynamite.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, I can't think of one, especially that

504
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<v Speaker 2>we were because there were so many we read and

505
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<v Speaker 2>talked about in that episode. I have to go back

506
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<v Speaker 2>and re listen to that episode now, but yeah, I couldn't.

507
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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember when I'm like, you know what, this

508
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<v Speaker 2>would be one from the original show, like maybe think

509
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<v Speaker 2>there was arian even there. One was one of like

510
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<v Speaker 2>astronauts or something, and I'm like, that feels like that

511
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<v Speaker 2>feels like the show. I know what that is. Not

512
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<v Speaker 2>that again they were hit or missed. Not that all

513
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<v Speaker 2>of them are bad, but none of them had that

514
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<v Speaker 2>that Twilight Zone secret sauce was just the one seems

515
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<v Speaker 2>to have and I was I was a little harsh

516
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<v Speaker 2>on the on the art. On the art anyway, nothing again, nothing,

517
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<v Speaker 2>it's bad. I just like it was like once you

518
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<v Speaker 2>talk about acclimating, like once I acclimated to, oh, this

519
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<v Speaker 2>is how people look in this in this comic book,

520
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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, got it. Question for you though, Uh

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<v Speaker 2>the rod sterling of it? All right? Okay, there is

522
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<v Speaker 2>this on like the second page here, there's this this

523
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<v Speaker 2>guy behind an umbrella smoking a cigarette. And I didn't

524
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<v Speaker 2>realize until, like I reread it, I'm like, oh, that's

525
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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be Rod Sterling. I guess doing the narration,

526
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<v Speaker 2>I was just like, this is a guy this resort,

527
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<v Speaker 2>but no, this is a it's Sterling in the scene, Tom,

528
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<v Speaker 2>it's what you love. Yeah, and you don't see his face.

529
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<v Speaker 2>He's blocked by an umbrella.

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<v Speaker 1>I just to be clear, that's probably the way to

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<v Speaker 1>go with it. I think he is there. He's at

532
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<v Speaker 1>the place. He's sitting in a deck chair on the

533
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<v Speaker 1>beach or something, or on the you know, at the

534
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<v Speaker 1>sides of the jetty where the helicopter's coming in if

535
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<v Speaker 1>I remember rightly, and it's just his arm with a

536
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<v Speaker 1>cigarette in it. I think the opening dialogue was pretty great,

537
00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:17.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, pretty dead on sailing esque stuff. So I think, yeah,

538
00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:22.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, probably not having his face in it is

539
00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:24.480
<v Speaker 1>really the way to go. And I think they did

540
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<v Speaker 1>a good job with it.

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<v Speaker 2>What about you, No, I think so too. I I

542
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<v Speaker 2>it's funny. I've been I've been catching up to you

543
00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:34.960
<v Speaker 2>and Chris's Outer Limits podcast on the Patreon. Sometimes I

544
00:27:35.079 --> 00:27:36.680
<v Speaker 2>let those pile up and I listen to some a

545
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:39.720
<v Speaker 2>few of them in a row, and like it felt

546
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<v Speaker 2>honestly in my head, I was like, this sounds more

547
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<v Speaker 2>like The Outer Limits than Twilight Zone because it's like

548
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<v Speaker 2>ever so it's the first cave man. I was like,

549
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<v Speaker 2>that's like, because the Outer Limits intro is often like

550
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<v Speaker 2>some history lesson or something. But that first, that first paragraph, Gobby,

551
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:54.079
<v Speaker 2>but but you're right after you kind of get through that.

552
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Oh, yeah, this feels like Rod Serling,

553
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<v Speaker 2>especially at the end. And I'm glad they had an

554
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<v Speaker 2>in narration too, because I've said this, I say this

555
00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:03.039
<v Speaker 2>every opportunity I can in these podcasts, like I think

556
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:05.759
<v Speaker 2>it in narration is essential because you went through this

557
00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:07.880
<v Speaker 2>crazy thing and you want Rod to come in and

558
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:10.000
<v Speaker 2>tell you here's what we learned. It's all gonna be okay,

559
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:11.359
<v Speaker 2>and you can just guide you out of there, because

560
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<v Speaker 2>then it feels incomplete without that bookend of the opening narration.

561
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<v Speaker 2>So I'm glad they kept that, And yeah, I'm looking

562
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<v Speaker 2>forward to seeing where they go with it. A definite

563
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<v Speaker 2>last thing I did want to mention is just it's

564
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<v Speaker 2>gonna be interesting to see where these are all like,

565
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where in time these take place. Not

566
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<v Speaker 2>that that matters, right, the Twilet Zone's always been all

567
00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:33.440
<v Speaker 2>over the place, But because you're in this isolated island somewhere,

568
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:36.160
<v Speaker 2>this could be the sixties, it could be the twenty twenties,

569
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<v Speaker 2>it could be two thousand, it can be any time period.

570
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<v Speaker 2>And I like that timelessness of it, so I hope

571
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<v Speaker 2>they keep that flavor for the rest of this mini series.

572
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<v Speaker 1>I liked the last panel two where it's got the

573
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<v Speaker 1>close and narration going over it, but the helicopter it's

574
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<v Speaker 1>against the backdrop of you know, the television, the giant

575
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:04.680
<v Speaker 1>spiral clock, the eye, as if it's like this is

576
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:08.200
<v Speaker 1>just another story flying off into Twilight's own history now,

577
00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:12.519
<v Speaker 1>And I think that worked pretty well. So you know,

578
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<v Speaker 1>we've got new creative teams with each issue, which I

579
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:18.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know, could be a good thing.

580
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<v Speaker 2>The next issh, I'll be like, oh man, I take

581
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:25.119
<v Speaker 2>it all back. I love the artwork of the first issue.

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00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that's it. You know, it could it could

583
00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:31.200
<v Speaker 1>go anyway. Really, It's a shame in a way because

584
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<v Speaker 1>I like Dan Wasser's work on this. He's got a

585
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:39.000
<v Speaker 1>good handle on it. But it's anthology comic books, like

586
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:42.519
<v Speaker 1>anthology television. You just got to go with whatever comes next.

587
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:43.359
<v Speaker 1>So I'm looking.

588
00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Forward to it absolutely same here.

589
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:47.119
<v Speaker 1>So you and I are going to try and do these.

590
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:49.640
<v Speaker 1>It's it's not going to be day and date with

591
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:52.480
<v Speaker 1>each new release, but we will you know, we'll get

592
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:55.720
<v Speaker 1>to them whenever that might be, whenever our two schedules

593
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:59.279
<v Speaker 1>are able to do so, but always good to catch

594
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<v Speaker 1>up with yours.

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<v Speaker 2>A yeah, no, thanks for having me on for this.

596
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<v Speaker 2>It's fun to again, like you, like you mentioned off

597
00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:07.200
<v Speaker 2>the top, when these new things pop up about the

598
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Twilight Zone, it's good to jump on them and talk

599
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:11.079
<v Speaker 2>about you know, who knows when the next you know

600
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:13.559
<v Speaker 2>TV show, where movie is gonna happen. There's always rumors,

601
00:30:13.599 --> 00:30:14.759
<v Speaker 2>but you know what we do have. We have these

602
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:16.279
<v Speaker 2>new comic books and we're going to talk about them.

603
00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:18.160
<v Speaker 2>So I always want to jump on microphone and talk

604
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:19.440
<v Speaker 2>with you about this stuff. Tom.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, great, glad to have you back. So what will

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<v Speaker 1>the next episode be? Well, there's a few things in

607
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<v Speaker 1>the WS. It's probably going to be down to what

608
00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:33.039
<v Speaker 1>gets done next, so we will see. It's always a

609
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:37.359
<v Speaker 1>surprise here on the twilight Zone podcast and we'll speak

610
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:38.519
<v Speaker 1>to you soon, and bye for now.