WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.720 --> 00:00:04.960 So you click this podcast and you thought to yourself, huh, 2 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:07.400 I thought for sure that I would hear the Curby 3 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:10.640 Your Enthusiasm intro before I heard any of their voices 4 00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:14.320 Bill Sucks. I decided to switch. 5 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:17.679 I did think that Bill Sucks was a close second. 6 00:00:18.320 --> 00:00:20.359 You get to hear our voices, and now you get 7 00:00:20.359 --> 00:00:22.879 to hear Curby your Enthusiasm. 8 00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:25.160 And if you watch that NCAA tournament game, you might 9 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:27.559 be hearing multiple voices in your head, which is diagnosed 10 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:30.480 as a mental illness. But welcome back to the podcast 11 00:00:30.519 --> 00:00:35.600 where you have three voices screaming about Bill South. Hopefully 12 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:38.000 we can be the voices inside your head. No guarantee, 13 00:00:38.039 --> 00:00:41.880 we're gonna be calmer. What's that SpongeBob quote where he's like, 14 00:00:41.880 --> 00:00:46.119 I'm already hearing voices? Is that Patrick? Yes? 15 00:00:46.880 --> 00:00:50.479 I think it was Patrick. Bill self asks. 16 00:00:50.200 --> 00:00:51.479 If Mayonnaise as an instrument? 17 00:00:53.799 --> 00:00:56.399 Yes, Mayo wasn't shooting, so he may as well be 18 00:00:56.479 --> 00:00:57.159 an instrument. 19 00:00:57.960 --> 00:00:59.320 I was gonna say, I think that was the only 20 00:00:59.359 --> 00:01:01.880 instrument that can his head, and then it didn't play 21 00:01:01.960 --> 00:01:02.960 music and. 22 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:04.159 An instrument of our construction. 23 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:09.400 Yeah, Hey, do you guys know anyone that was dumb 24 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:12.280 enough to bet on Kansas winning this game, because I 25 00:01:12.319 --> 00:01:13.920 just I don't know anyone that would do that. 26 00:01:16.120 --> 00:01:21.439 Cameron Lippolt, I know, I don't know. 27 00:01:21.519 --> 00:01:24.200 I know I'm a Cam. I know I'm a Cam. Yeah, 28 00:01:24.480 --> 00:01:27.480 you know what. I hate myself. I genuinely hate myself 29 00:01:27.519 --> 00:01:29.879 because I watched for four months of this team and 30 00:01:29.920 --> 00:01:32.920 then I sat there behind a microphone with YouTube morons. 31 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:36.359 We're both we're all mongoloid idiots. We're going to Kansas 32 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:40.640 against Arkansas? Why not athletic team with pros Order Dickinson, 33 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:43.000 Dwan Harris. We've seen this for two years? What could 34 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:45.519 possibly go wrong? And then I said, yeah, let's put 35 00:01:45.560 --> 00:01:46.280 it on moneyline. 36 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:48.879 Sorry, Cam, but you know it has to be done. 37 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:52.920 Get that son of a podcast out. 38 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:55.680 I mean, I might just log out from life. 39 00:01:56.200 --> 00:02:02.439 He's fired, just like us for talking about second round games, 40 00:02:02.920 --> 00:02:05.760 Land and this is year number twelve of it P. 41 00:02:06.400 --> 00:02:09.000 We've never talked about a first round loss before. This 42 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:12.960 is uncharted waters for the for us in this tenure. 43 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:16.199 Yeah, it is, but. 44 00:02:16.199 --> 00:02:21.560 It's like it's like uncharted waters where like you it's 45 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:25.280 it looks about the same though, like you're not surprised 46 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:28.120 by what you find there. Yeah, technically you haven't been 47 00:02:28.120 --> 00:02:31.800 there in a long time. B. But boy, do you 48 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:33.960 know exactly the terrain you're dealing with. 49 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:37.400 You don't see those guys. I was at the last 50 00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:40.360 first round NCAA tournament loss for Bill self in two thousand. 51 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:45.319 You were I was, You were like fourteen? Like, no, 52 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:46.800 you weren't even that you were ten? 53 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:52.439 Yeah, uh yeah, somewhere in that realm you were terrible night. 54 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:56.919 Actually yeah, watching Kansas lose to Bradley. By the way, 55 00:02:57.240 --> 00:02:59.879 I hate to be that guy, but that was just 56 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:05.120 one year after until yesterday, the only time in the 57 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:08.159 history of the AP pole that a number one team 58 00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:12.039 in the preseason lost in the first round of the 59 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:15.360 NCAA tournament. And you'll never guess there's who that team's 60 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:15.960 coach was. 61 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:20.280 Damn serious question to your guys. If Kansas goes into 62 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:22.599 next season, is the AP number one team? Do we 63 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:23.759 just call it the podcast? 64 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:30.159 No, no, please, anything but that Kansas has been preseason 65 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:33.759 number one four times in the A peopole, and that 66 00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:35.960 would be two thousand and four, oh five, that'd be 67 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:38.599 oh nine to ten, that'd be eighteen nineteen, and the 68 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:41.159 last two years they have never made the second week 69 00:03:41.199 --> 00:03:44.159 in my game this season that they were preseason number 70 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:46.479 one in the a people ohver five it's amazing, which 71 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:49.719 true and only go out only one coach. 72 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:53.280 In fairness, the nine ten team might be the best 73 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:55.599 Bill Self team other than the Natty team eight. 74 00:03:55.840 --> 00:03:59.000 Sure lost to do with a hairline from the nineteen forties. 75 00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:04.280 It pisses me off this day. Oh yeah, my bracket. 76 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:06.159 And this year, Oh that's pretty good. I don't know, 77 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:08.639 I've never heard that before. And this year he didn't 78 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:10.919 lose to a guy with the receiving hairline. He actually 79 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:12.919 lost to a guy that was wearing a pretty stylish 80 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:16.600 coat and has still has a pretty good hairline. And 81 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:18.480 that would be none other than We've come full circle 82 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:20.199 on the show. Because, as you. 83 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:23.279 Know, Calipark, the god himself is a dwarf. 84 00:04:23.720 --> 00:04:27.079 It was written in the prophecy and John Calipari beats 85 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:30.000 Bill Self. And honestly, I know that this entire season 86 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:32.639 in a way was Bill Self's fault, But I honestly 87 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:36.000 think Bill self self got let down by his team. 88 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:39.920 He did, yeah, yeah, yeah, so they're gonna talk about it, 89 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:40.639 no joke. 90 00:04:40.759 --> 00:04:42.600 In the middle of this game, I had a friend 91 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:45.199 text me who is not a Kansas fan of any stretch. 92 00:04:45.240 --> 00:04:48.079 He hates Kansas, and he goes Bill self is putting 93 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:50.920 on a coaching clinic right now when they went to zone, 94 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:53.519 and I was like, yeah, dude, this is why I 95 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:56.600 picked Kansas to win this game. And then he texted 96 00:04:56.639 --> 00:04:58.600 me ten minutes later with like a frownie face, and 97 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:02.079 I was like, yeah. 98 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:03.399 Guess what happened? Then? Then you saw all the turnover. 99 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:07.680 Then you saw nothing but turnovers over and over in 100 00:05:07.720 --> 00:05:10.120 the last five minutes of the game. Landon and I 101 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:12.560 couldn't believe it. We were watching together, but we actually 102 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:14.959 totally could believe it. And we're gonna talk about that. 103 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:17.800 We're gonna talk about the first round of the NCAA tournament. 104 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:21.319 We are, yes speaking of that meme of Squidward watching 105 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:24.920 SpongeBob and Patrick dance out from so sad. That is 106 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:27.600 us watching all these other entertaining games in the round 107 00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:29.639 of thirty two, all these other blue bloods. There's Duke, 108 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:32.560 there's Kentucky, there's North Carolina. All of them played longer 109 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:33.839 than Kansas by days. 110 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:36.399 No, I just I just missed my co host. I 111 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:38.319 couldn't watch it with my co host. I was with 112 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:40.759 a buddy at a bar while I was bombarding their phones. 113 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:44.959 Yeah, and cam Cam actually called me five minutes before 114 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:47.800 our estimated showtime today because that's how much he missed 115 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:49.639 the show. That's how excited he was to get this 116 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:52.240 show on the road. And boy, are we ready? This 117 00:05:52.319 --> 00:05:56.279 is itp season loss edition number what ten because of 118 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:57.759 the COVID year and they won all on year. There's 119 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:00.800 our tenth season ending loss show. Oh boy, and show 120 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:01.839 four ninety nine. 121 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:05.759 Overall, I'm Ryan Landrath, I'm Landing Fields. 122 00:06:05.639 --> 00:06:08.839 And I'm a nice twenty four rounds Clorox lemonade that 123 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:10.079 I'm like to drink right now. 124 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:13.560 All right, Arkansas Kansas winner gets to choose how the 125 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:16.519 state is pronounced, so I guess we're Kansas for the 126 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:25.279 Kansas something like that. Even they won, even they're still 127 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:29.240 freaking alive and Kansas is and it's so frustrating. Here 128 00:06:29.319 --> 00:06:33.199 we go number ten Kansas or Nope, Nope, absolutely not. 129 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:38.680 Their name's not first, number ten, all Kansas seventy nine, 130 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:48.800 number seven and preseason number one Kansas seventy two, not 131 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:51.839 doing that again, not doing that? Well, No, sweet sixteen 132 00:06:52.839 --> 00:06:55.040 and well, the good news is, guys, we all learned 133 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:58.079 our lesson about this team from November to early March 134 00:06:58.120 --> 00:07:02.120 and didn't predict. I just came in you animously, like 135 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:05.680 genuine off with that Cam, How dumb are we? No? 136 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:08.439 Like I was, I was thinking, I have a lot 137 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:10.639 of thoughts, and most of my thoughts would be qualified 138 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:12.720 under the FBI no fly list if they were to 139 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:14.959 put them on paper. But I was driving home tonight 140 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:17.120 after dogs, sitting in my buddy's dog, and I was like, 141 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:21.600 we genuinely watched this Kansas team go thirteen and thirteen 142 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:25.079 from November up until this game, and we sat with 143 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:29.040 our thumbs up, our rectum, going, why not Kansas against 144 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:31.199 a pro length team. They can beat them in the 145 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:33.600 first round. They've only lost every other streak this year. 146 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:36.920 Let's pick them. And you know what happened. It would 147 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:40.079 be like if a Titanic didn't crash into an iceberg, 148 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:42.399 it ran into a school bus filled with children. That 149 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:43.920 was what the entire game was. 150 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:48.560 Somehow it got worse. Somehow a very bad situation got worse, 151 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:51.920 And that's exactly what the chat. Yeah, and so it 152 00:07:51.959 --> 00:07:54.720 was Laura bush which my buddy Cam taught me Laura 153 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:57.800 Bush kill. Somebody once Google it. Yep, you're all killing 154 00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:01.360 somebody Bill self with the Jayhawks. Here's your ad lift 155 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:04.480 games story. Here's your ad lib game story. Because Landon 156 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:05.879 didn't write one of the notes. He gave a very 157 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:09.439 one hundred dicas in the second half effort with that today. No, 158 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:12.240 I'm just kidding. Landon actually did a little bit of 159 00:08:12.279 --> 00:08:14.680 work here, so I can't compare him to second half Hunter. 160 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:18.120 So the game story is it was it was ugly, 161 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:20.279 and then it was not, and then it was ugly, 162 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:23.480 and then it was uglier because you had a neck 163 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:26.839 and net game. Arkansas started to really separate a little 164 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:28.519 bit early in the second half. They built a double 165 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:31.360 digit lead, but as we've seen many times John Keller 166 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:34.240 Perry coach teams, they don't hold on to those leads. 167 00:08:34.279 --> 00:08:37.039 Back comes Kansas. They take a sixty seven sixty four 168 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:39.559 lead at the final TV timeout, and it looks at 169 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:42.440 that moment up three with the ball that they are 170 00:08:42.519 --> 00:08:46.879 potentially going to escape with their first round victory streak intact. 171 00:08:47.240 --> 00:08:49.440 And then all they did after that was commit five 172 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:52.360 turnovers and one as opposed to the one shot they 173 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:56.000 made in the final four minutes of the game, sinking 174 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:59.919 their season. They go preseason one to one and done 175 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:02.799 in the NCAA Tournament. And yeah, that's how it ends 176 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:05.399 the Jayhawks season that begin with a lot of promise, 177 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:08.919 five careers, and the most experienced team in the field 178 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:14.200 goes home after your latest and your last complete collapse 179 00:09:14.279 --> 00:09:18.159 in the clutch. We thought that they would would win 180 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:20.879 the game, and I mean it came down. It was 181 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:23.679 really the only true good game, one of two, the 182 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:25.679 other being you see San Diego and Michigan. They were 183 00:09:25.720 --> 00:09:27.200 only two good games the whole first day of the 184 00:09:27.279 --> 00:09:30.519 NCAA Tournament. This is one of them. So it was close. 185 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:33.840 But ultimately, if you were told, hey, Kansas is gonna 186 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:36.799 lose before this game starts, you're told they're gonna lose, 187 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:39.080 and they it's because they had a lead late and 188 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:41.480 they blew it with five turnovers in the final fourmats, 189 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:44.159 you would have said huh, And you wouldn't have You 190 00:09:44.159 --> 00:09:47.120 wouldn't have skipped a beat. Right. That's it went exactly 191 00:09:47.159 --> 00:09:49.480 how we knew in our hearts it would go. And 192 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:52.840 yet somehow, someway we still looked the other way, held 193 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:54.399 our nose and picked them to get out of this 194 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:55.679 game with a win. Oops. 195 00:09:57.720 --> 00:10:01.240 Yeah, and as we'll get into yet again, a Kansas 196 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:05.759 season ends in a distillation of the entire season, which, again, 197 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:07.720 why why did we not know this was gonna happen? 198 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:08.240 But it did. 199 00:10:08.559 --> 00:10:09.360 It really did. 200 00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:13.240 Rational us all. 201 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:16.080 And you you had, well, okay, calling Land and the 202 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:18.720 most rational person in this group is like having three 203 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:22.440 four hundred pound people and one other person and being like, 204 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:25.480 you know what, ye you are the that thirteen times 205 00:10:25.960 --> 00:10:28.720 the risk of heart disease. Oh okay, I can go 206 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:32.720 with small people. That's fine, short people and a tall guy, 207 00:10:32.759 --> 00:10:35.080 whatever you want to say. Land is very rational compared 208 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:37.480 to us. Yes, so what they had all they had 209 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:40.039 all those years where they got blown out in their 210 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:43.240 season ending loss. Uh, And we were like, man, are 211 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:45.600 they ever going to play a close NCAA tournament loss again? 212 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:48.799 They have, They're just only against Arkansas because Kansas has 213 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:52.159 only lost in the tournament twice since twenty fifteen by 214 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:55.039 single digits, and it was to since twenty sixteen, and 215 00:10:55.080 --> 00:10:58.279 it was to Arkansas both times. Arkansas owns Kansas. 216 00:10:57.879 --> 00:11:01.759 Now they kind of do. Also, would you guys rather 217 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:04.159 see them get blown out in the NCAA tournament or 218 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:05.120 lose a close game? 219 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:08.639 The close game I think I think the blowouts so 220 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:09.279 much worse. 221 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:13.799 They're both off out RAO game, because I think. 222 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:16.480 You're right, like whenever you if I, if I had 223 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:19.679 you list all of their recent NCAA losses, the blowouts 224 00:11:19.720 --> 00:11:22.320 like Villanova and Oregon and Auburn would come to mind 225 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:24.879 more quickly than either Auburn game will in a couple 226 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:27.360 of years. Like I still Landon and I were talking 227 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:29.840 about that Auburn game from two or the the the 228 00:11:29.919 --> 00:11:32.240 Arkansas game from two years ago. We didn't even remember 229 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:34.440 what the score was, just because it's like, oh. 230 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:35.440 Yeah, similar to this. 231 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:40.639 Was it not absolutely it was? It was Yeah, Kansas 232 00:11:40.720 --> 00:11:42.519 led that game by twelve with eight minutes left and 233 00:11:42.559 --> 00:11:44.879 blew it. This was really the only one it was 234 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:49.759 during that game, well you had a headband and he 235 00:11:49.799 --> 00:11:52.320 didn't score there like any saying. But you know what, 236 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:55.120 if I'm just gonna say this right now, if Bill 237 00:11:55.240 --> 00:11:58.240 self ruins Darren Peterson next year, I'm going to make 238 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:04.279 Pearl Harbor look like a past will protest and the 239 00:12:04.320 --> 00:12:06.679 people who are concerned that Darren Peterson is going to 240 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:08.639 bail on Kansas after the last two years. He was 241 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:11.320 at Allen Field House earlier today, repping the Jayhawks. He'll 242 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:13.360 be playing in a tournament in the area. He is 243 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:15.360 going to be a Jayhawk and it will be very, 244 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:18.279 very fun. But in order to talk about Jan Peterson, 245 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:20.120 we have to talk about this game and this. 246 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:23.000 Before we talk about this game, I'm just killing the podcast. 247 00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:25.960 I know, before we talk about this game, if Darren 248 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:29.759 Peterson came to Kansas and Dwan Harris had an extra 249 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:34.919 year of eligibility, do you think, yep, is that is 250 00:12:34.919 --> 00:12:36.399 that what you think happens to. 251 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:39.679 Guard Darren Peterson? It absolutely is, yeah, correct, And somebody 252 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:44.039 somebody speculated. Somebody asked on Twitter, one of the Beat 253 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:47.480 writers if kj's injury means he gets a medical red shirt, 254 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:50.759 and Bill self would absolutely positively take that. Even though 255 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:52.759 I don't know if kJ would play next year, he 256 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:55.600 he legitimately might be out for like twelve months after that. Uh, 257 00:12:55.799 --> 00:12:58.399 that's that's just too bad. And we'll talk about all 258 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:01.399 of it. Also, Yeah, want to lead off before we 259 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:04.080 talk about this with the Bob Davis News. Everybody who's 260 00:13:04.120 --> 00:13:08.360 listening to who Oh, It's it's just gut wrenching. Anyone 261 00:13:08.360 --> 00:13:10.519 who's listening to this show and has heard my comments 262 00:13:10.519 --> 00:13:13.080 about Brian Haney or announcers knows that all of that 263 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:17.639 stemmed from just being so selfishly tied to Bob Davis 264 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:20.799 as a child. That just like a kid who refuses 265 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:23.240 to accept that his parents are getting that his mom's 266 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:26.240 marrying somebody else. That person could be a perfectly fine person, 267 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:28.440 but he's not the guy I'm used to. That's me 268 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:30.960 with any announcer that's not Bob Davis. Because I was 269 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:34.360 a child listening to Bob called both Royals games and 270 00:13:34.559 --> 00:13:35.679 Ku games on the road. 271 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:37.480 I didn't know he called games. 272 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:39.360 He did, and he was not very good at it. 273 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:43.200 He was horrible at anything in the air, Like he'd 274 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:46.279 be like, oh, that is smashed in the left field 275 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:49.879 way back, and oh it's caught ten feet in front 276 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:50.639 of the warning track. 277 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:55.000 I know that he's passed on, but can I say 278 00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:57.320 one thing, and it's also something I love about the guy. 279 00:13:57.720 --> 00:14:01.679 My favorite Bob Davis trait was he would always yell swish, 280 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:04.399 even if it wasn't even remotely close to his swish. 281 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:06.320 Correct there could be a bank shot, he would yell 282 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:09.360 swish yeah. And that's I associate so much of that 283 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:12.639 North Carolina Final four game with Bob Davis on the 284 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:15.480 call died less than a week after his wife did, 285 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:17.720 which is proof that you really truly can die of 286 00:14:17.759 --> 00:14:19.720 a broken heart. I'm sure there were other things, but 287 00:14:19.840 --> 00:14:21.879 I mean, just you see it so much with people 288 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:24.399 who have been married for so long. And yes, that 289 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:28.600 just a wonderful, wonderful person that I met a few 290 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:32.080 times at season ending banquets and events, truly did make 291 00:14:32.120 --> 00:14:34.120 the take time out of his day to go talk 292 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:38.559 with everybody as humble and and everybody truly was better 293 00:14:38.600 --> 00:14:41.559 having listened to him call games. So I wish that 294 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:43.600 I could say that that they would have a game 295 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:45.799 that could be dedicated to what he deserved, because this 296 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:48.879 team did not do Bob Davis justice. But yes, just 297 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:51.039 wanted to lead off with that. My my all time 298 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:54.679 favorite radio announcer and one of the biggest reasons why 299 00:14:54.759 --> 00:14:57.200 I love the basketball team that I do. Okay, now 300 00:14:57.240 --> 00:15:00.039 we must talk about the game itself, which I I 301 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:04.320 believe landon Hunter Dickinson all year. This was always gonna 302 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:06.240 kind of be the team that went as far as 303 00:15:06.360 --> 00:15:09.919 Hunter Dickinson takes them. And whenever he has the worst 304 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:12.080 game of his season, certainly the worst half of his 305 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:15.159 Kansas career. Well, it's not a surprise that the team 306 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:16.600 falls flat. 307 00:15:17.399 --> 00:15:20.000 Yeah, we do, unfortunately have to start there. He finished 308 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:23.200 with eleven points, nine rebounds, and four assists, but he 309 00:15:23.279 --> 00:15:25.399 was just four or thirteen from the floor and he 310 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:30.159 did not score in the second half, far and away 311 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:33.159 the worst half of his Kansas career. As you said, Ryan, 312 00:15:34.480 --> 00:15:36.200 what is the legacy of this guy? I mean, I 313 00:15:36.240 --> 00:15:38.679 know this is something we've kind of discussed a lot 314 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:42.720 on this show, but like it's over now, Like that's it. 315 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:45.639 The book, the book is written on Hunter Dickinson now 316 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:48.559 his college and his Kansas career. And what does that 317 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:52.200 look like? Like, Cam, Cam, degenerate, Robert Frost. What is 318 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:53.879 the title of the Hunter Dickinson book? 319 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:56.879 I got you? Actually you want Robert Frost here? Yo, 320 00:15:57.360 --> 00:16:01.200 two roads diverged into Yellowood had all American and the 321 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:05.840 other had one NCAA tournament win. I think. So here's 322 00:16:05.879 --> 00:16:08.559 my thing I think, Dickson is that was pretty good, 323 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:10.039 wasn't it. I thought that was pretty solid. 324 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:13.120 This is why Cam and and the rest of us 325 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:14.720 are the are the people playing the music? 326 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:17.639 Well, if I'm a conductor of the trains off the tracks, 327 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:21.559 But I also think with Kansas. Hunter is going to 328 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:24.559 be very I think he's misunderstood. I actually, through all 329 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:26.039 the things that I've said in our group chat, I 330 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:28.519 actually do like Hunter Dickinson. I appreciate the fact that 331 00:16:28.519 --> 00:16:31.440 he came to Kansas. I also feel for him in 332 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:33.960 a sense. I actually went to the transfer portal when 333 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:36.039 I was playing golf on a much smaller scale, and 334 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:37.600 I went to a team and I didn't fit in 335 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:40.080 perfectly there. And it's hard to go to a school 336 00:16:40.120 --> 00:16:43.000 that you haven't been at, and even if you have success, 337 00:16:43.039 --> 00:16:46.799 you're not guaranteed to have it with the team. I 338 00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:49.080 think his legacy is that he was a really good player, 339 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:54.559 the teams did not fit with him. And I also think, well, 340 00:16:54.919 --> 00:16:57.919 the sad things will just never know if he could 341 00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:00.799 have been on like a national title winning haliber team 342 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:04.200 because it wasn't in the cards. It just wasn't built correctly, 343 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:05.519 and that's unsolved. 344 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:08.519 So I want to I think we're gonna do another 345 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:10.799 show in the later part of this week when we 346 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:14.200 know everything about the first weekend in its entirety, and 347 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:16.839 there'll be a little Kansas news by then, and my 348 00:17:16.960 --> 00:17:18.960 hope is I'll be able to reflect on it a 349 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:21.920 little bit more. So I'm gonna I'm gonna think on 350 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:27.359 your question, Land, and I'll touch back him because I 351 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:32.519 truly don't know what the Hunter Dickinson. Anyone who's listening 352 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:36.519 to this show knows my defense of him. This is 353 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:37.839 more than just about anyone else. 354 00:17:38.839 --> 00:17:40.759 Yeah, and I think I think a lot of that's fair. 355 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:43.480 I mean, he put up amazing numbers. I will say this, 356 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:47.200 I obviously live in Michigan. I've lived in Michigan for 357 00:17:47.240 --> 00:17:49.839 my whole life, so I've been in Michigan while Hunter 358 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:52.720 Dickinson was still playing here. The criticism that fans had 359 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:54.960 of him while he was playing for Michigan was that 360 00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:58.319 he puts up good numbers, but he's not a winner. 361 00:17:58.720 --> 00:18:00.960 I don't know exactly what that means, and I don't 362 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:04.319 think they can really qualify it. But you can kind 363 00:18:04.319 --> 00:18:07.279 of make that argument with his time at Kansas, but again, 364 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:12.240 I don't know, because you can't really put it on him. 365 00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:15.880 Yeah, And and I mean it's just hard. I think 366 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:20.240 the thing that I'm gonna, I'm gonna because I've been 367 00:18:20.440 --> 00:18:24.079 so positive with Dickinson and in such defense of him, 368 00:18:24.680 --> 00:18:28.960 but it's really really hard to sit there and say 369 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:32.680 everybody that that pointed out the criticisms and their concerns 370 00:18:32.960 --> 00:18:36.039 weren't proven completely right by everything that he did in 371 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:38.839 the second half here, because statistically he is a two 372 00:18:38.920 --> 00:18:40.680 time All American and I cringe to think of what 373 00:18:40.720 --> 00:18:42.279 this team would be without him. And I don't think 374 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:44.119 that they would have been any better if you replaced 375 00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:47.000 him with any big in the country. But the problem 376 00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:50.440 with Dickinson is, and Landon was on this all year. 377 00:18:50.799 --> 00:18:53.880 He's a floor setter, not a ceiling center. He's not 378 00:18:55.920 --> 00:19:00.359 He's not capable of true, of elevating a team and 379 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:02.160 putting them on his back and winning them a game. 380 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:06.000 And we saw it in this game where he makes 381 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:08.720 the worst turnover of the game. He has the worst 382 00:19:08.759 --> 00:19:10.359 pass that a KU player has had. 383 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:13.599 And yeah, since Snark and Jason Beam threw it into 384 00:19:13.599 --> 00:19:21.160 a hot dog stand Arkansas, mind you, but second Arkansas 385 00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:22.359 has hit the tower. 386 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:27.279 I think it had. I think that Hunter Dickinson, I 387 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:29.079 don't know. I'm gonna come back on it because I 388 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:32.240 think Hunter Dickinson should be appreciated more than he will be, 389 00:19:32.759 --> 00:19:35.839 and some of those situations are outside of his control. 390 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:38.880 But at the second one thing, yeah, I go for it. 391 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:41.279 Like, I'm gonna pass this off because I've talked way 392 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:43.720 too much in the last like five minutes. But what 393 00:19:43.799 --> 00:19:46.279 I will say, and I've been in our group chat, 394 00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:48.319 if anyone were to ever read her messages, I'd go 395 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:52.359 to prison. But I've been critical of Hunter Dickinson. I 396 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:56.960 will say he's handled himself really well off the floor 397 00:19:57.000 --> 00:19:59.640 as a Jayhawk, and that's something people criticized him for 398 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:02.519 at Michigan, So big shout out to Hunter for that, 399 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:05.240 and I think that he's going to be underappreciated for that. 400 00:20:06.599 --> 00:20:09.880 Yeah, I think that Hunter Dickinson being twenty four and 401 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:12.599