Speaker 1: So you click this podcast and you thought to yourself, huh,
Speaker 1: I thought for sure that I would hear the Curby
Speaker 1: Your Enthusiasm intro before I heard any of their voices
Speaker 1: Bill Sucks. I decided to switch.
Speaker 2: I did think that Bill Sucks was a close second.
Speaker 1: You get to hear our voices, and now you get
Speaker 1: to hear Curby your Enthusiasm.
Speaker 3: And if you watch that NCAA tournament game, you might
Speaker 3: be hearing multiple voices in your head, which is diagnosed
Speaker 3: as a mental illness. But welcome back to the podcast
Speaker 3: where you have three voices screaming about Bill South. Hopefully
Speaker 3: we can be the voices inside your head. No guarantee,
Speaker 3: we're gonna be calmer. What's that SpongeBob quote where he's like,
Speaker 3: I'm already hearing voices? Is that Patrick? Yes?
Speaker 2: I think it was Patrick. Bill self asks.
Speaker 3: If Mayonnaise as an instrument?
Speaker 1: Yes, Mayo wasn't shooting, so he may as well be
Speaker 1: an instrument.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I think that was the only
Speaker 3: instrument that can his head, and then it didn't play
Speaker 3: music and.
Speaker 2: An instrument of our construction.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, do you guys know anyone that was dumb
Speaker 3: enough to bet on Kansas winning this game, because I
Speaker 3: just I don't know anyone that would do that.
Speaker 2: Cameron Lippolt, I know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I know I'm a Cam. I know I'm a Cam. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know what. I hate myself. I genuinely hate myself
Speaker 3: because I watched for four months of this team and
Speaker 3: then I sat there behind a microphone with YouTube morons.
Speaker 3: We're both we're all mongoloid idiots. We're going to Kansas
Speaker 3: against Arkansas? Why not athletic team with pros Order Dickinson,
Speaker 3: Dwan Harris. We've seen this for two years? What could
Speaker 3: possibly go wrong? And then I said, yeah, let's put
Speaker 3: it on moneyline.
Speaker 1: Sorry, Cam, but you know it has to be done.
Speaker 1: Get that son of a podcast out.
Speaker 3: I mean, I might just log out from life.
Speaker 1: He's fired, just like us for talking about second round games,
Speaker 1: Land and this is year number twelve of it P.
Speaker 1: We've never talked about a first round loss before. This
Speaker 1: is uncharted waters for the for us in this tenure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, but.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like uncharted waters where like you it's
Speaker 2: it looks about the same though, like you're not surprised
Speaker 2: by what you find there. Yeah, technically you haven't been
Speaker 2: there in a long time. B. But boy, do you
Speaker 2: know exactly the terrain you're dealing with.
Speaker 3: You don't see those guys. I was at the last
Speaker 3: first round NCAA tournament loss for Bill self in two thousand.
Speaker 1: You were I was, You were like fourteen? Like, no,
Speaker 1: you weren't even that you were ten?
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh yeah, somewhere in that realm you were terrible night.
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, watching Kansas lose to Bradley. By the way,
Speaker 1: I hate to be that guy, but that was just
Speaker 1: one year after until yesterday, the only time in the
Speaker 1: history of the AP pole that a number one team
Speaker 1: in the preseason lost in the first round of the
Speaker 1: NCAA tournament. And you'll never guess there's who that team's
Speaker 1: coach was.
Speaker 3: Damn serious question to your guys. If Kansas goes into
Speaker 3: next season, is the AP number one team? Do we
Speaker 3: just call it the podcast?
Speaker 1: No, no, please, anything but that Kansas has been preseason
Speaker 1: number one four times in the A peopole, and that
Speaker 1: would be two thousand and four, oh five, that'd be
Speaker 1: oh nine to ten, that'd be eighteen nineteen, and the
Speaker 1: last two years they have never made the second week
Speaker 1: in my game this season that they were preseason number
Speaker 1: one in the a people ohver five it's amazing, which
Speaker 1: true and only go out only one coach.
Speaker 2: In fairness, the nine ten team might be the best
Speaker 2: Bill Self team other than the Natty team eight.
Speaker 3: Sure lost to do with a hairline from the nineteen forties.
Speaker 3: It pisses me off this day. Oh yeah, my bracket.
Speaker 1: And this year, Oh that's pretty good. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I've never heard that before. And this year he didn't
Speaker 1: lose to a guy with the receiving hairline. He actually
Speaker 1: lost to a guy that was wearing a pretty stylish
Speaker 1: coat and has still has a pretty good hairline. And
Speaker 1: that would be none other than We've come full circle
Speaker 1: on the show. Because, as you.
Speaker 2: Know, Calipark, the god himself is a dwarf.
Speaker 1: It was written in the prophecy and John Calipari beats
Speaker 1: Bill Self. And honestly, I know that this entire season
Speaker 1: in a way was Bill Self's fault, But I honestly
Speaker 1: think Bill self self got let down by his team.
Speaker 1: He did, yeah, yeah, yeah, so they're gonna talk about it,
Speaker 1: no joke.
Speaker 3: In the middle of this game, I had a friend
Speaker 3: text me who is not a Kansas fan of any stretch.
Speaker 3: He hates Kansas, and he goes Bill self is putting
Speaker 3: on a coaching clinic right now when they went to zone,
Speaker 3: and I was like, yeah, dude, this is why I
Speaker 3: picked Kansas to win this game. And then he texted
Speaker 3: me ten minutes later with like a frownie face, and
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah.
Speaker 1: Guess what happened? Then? Then you saw all the turnover.
Speaker 1: Then you saw nothing but turnovers over and over in
Speaker 1: the last five minutes of the game. Landon and I
Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. We were watching together, but we actually
Speaker 1: totally could believe it. And we're gonna talk about that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the first round of the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 1: We are, yes speaking of that meme of Squidward watching
Speaker 1: SpongeBob and Patrick dance out from so sad. That is
Speaker 1: us watching all these other entertaining games in the round
Speaker 1: of thirty two, all these other blue bloods. There's Duke,
Speaker 1: there's Kentucky, there's North Carolina. All of them played longer
Speaker 1: than Kansas by days.
Speaker 3: No, I just I just missed my co host. I
Speaker 3: couldn't watch it with my co host. I was with
Speaker 3: a buddy at a bar while I was bombarding their phones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and cam Cam actually called me five minutes before
Speaker 1: our estimated showtime today because that's how much he missed
Speaker 1: the show. That's how excited he was to get this
Speaker 1: show on the road. And boy, are we ready? This
Speaker 1: is itp season loss edition number what ten because of
Speaker 1: the COVID year and they won all on year. There's
Speaker 1: our tenth season ending loss show. Oh boy, and show
Speaker 1: four ninety nine.
Speaker 2: Overall, I'm Ryan Landrath, I'm Landing Fields.
Speaker 3: And I'm a nice twenty four rounds Clorox lemonade that
Speaker 3: I'm like to drink right now.
Speaker 1: All right, Arkansas Kansas winner gets to choose how the
Speaker 1: state is pronounced, so I guess we're Kansas for the
Speaker 1: Kansas something like that. Even they won, even they're still
Speaker 1: freaking alive and Kansas is and it's so frustrating. Here
Speaker 1: we go number ten Kansas or Nope, Nope, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Their name's not first, number ten, all Kansas seventy nine,
Speaker 1: number seven and preseason number one Kansas seventy two, not
Speaker 1: doing that again, not doing that? Well, No, sweet sixteen
Speaker 1: and well, the good news is, guys, we all learned
Speaker 1: our lesson about this team from November to early March
Speaker 1: and didn't predict. I just came in you animously, like
Speaker 1: genuine off with that Cam, How dumb are we? No?
Speaker 3: Like I was, I was thinking, I have a lot
Speaker 3: of thoughts, and most of my thoughts would be qualified
Speaker 3: under the FBI no fly list if they were to
Speaker 3: put them on paper. But I was driving home tonight
Speaker 3: after dogs, sitting in my buddy's dog, and I was like,
Speaker 3: we genuinely watched this Kansas team go thirteen and thirteen
Speaker 3: from November up until this game, and we sat with
Speaker 3: our thumbs up, our rectum, going, why not Kansas against
Speaker 3: a pro length team. They can beat them in the
Speaker 3: first round. They've only lost every other streak this year.
Speaker 3: Let's pick them. And you know what happened. It would
Speaker 3: be like if a Titanic didn't crash into an iceberg,
Speaker 3: it ran into a school bus filled with children. That
Speaker 3: was what the entire game was.
Speaker 1: Somehow it got worse. Somehow a very bad situation got worse,
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what the chat. Yeah, and so it
Speaker 1: was Laura bush which my buddy Cam taught me Laura
Speaker 1: Bush kill. Somebody once Google it. Yep, you're all killing
Speaker 1: somebody Bill self with the Jayhawks. Here's your ad lift
Speaker 1: games story. Here's your ad lib game story. Because Landon
Speaker 1: didn't write one of the notes. He gave a very
Speaker 1: one hundred dicas in the second half effort with that today. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Landon actually did a little bit of
Speaker 1: work here, so I can't compare him to second half Hunter.
Speaker 1: So the game story is it was it was ugly,
Speaker 1: and then it was not, and then it was ugly,
Speaker 1: and then it was uglier because you had a neck
Speaker 1: and net game. Arkansas started to really separate a little
Speaker 1: bit early in the second half. They built a double
Speaker 1: digit lead, but as we've seen many times John Keller
Speaker 1: Perry coach teams, they don't hold on to those leads.
Speaker 1: Back comes Kansas. They take a sixty seven sixty four
Speaker 1: lead at the final TV timeout, and it looks at
Speaker 1: that moment up three with the ball that they are
Speaker 1: potentially going to escape with their first round victory streak intact.
Speaker 1: And then all they did after that was commit five
Speaker 1: turnovers and one as opposed to the one shot they
Speaker 1: made in the final four minutes of the game, sinking
Speaker 1: their season. They go preseason one to one and done
Speaker 1: in the NCAA Tournament. And yeah, that's how it ends
Speaker 1: the Jayhawks season that begin with a lot of promise,
Speaker 1: five careers, and the most experienced team in the field
Speaker 1: goes home after your latest and your last complete collapse
Speaker 1: in the clutch. We thought that they would would win
Speaker 1: the game, and I mean it came down. It was
Speaker 1: really the only true good game, one of two, the
Speaker 1: other being you see San Diego and Michigan. They were
Speaker 1: only two good games the whole first day of the
Speaker 1: NCAA Tournament. This is one of them. So it was close.
Speaker 1: But ultimately, if you were told, hey, Kansas is gonna
Speaker 1: lose before this game starts, you're told they're gonna lose,
Speaker 1: and they it's because they had a lead late and
Speaker 1: they blew it with five turnovers in the final fourmats,
Speaker 1: you would have said huh, And you wouldn't have You
Speaker 1: wouldn't have skipped a beat. Right. That's it went exactly
Speaker 1: how we knew in our hearts it would go. And
Speaker 1: yet somehow, someway we still looked the other way, held
Speaker 1: our nose and picked them to get out of this
Speaker 1: game with a win. Oops.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and as we'll get into yet again, a Kansas
Speaker 2: season ends in a distillation of the entire season, which, again,
Speaker 2: why why did we not know this was gonna happen?
Speaker 3: But it did.
Speaker 2: It really did.
Speaker 3: Rational us all.
Speaker 1: And you you had, well, okay, calling Land and the
Speaker 1: most rational person in this group is like having three
Speaker 1: four hundred pound people and one other person and being like,
Speaker 1: you know what, ye you are the that thirteen times
Speaker 1: the risk of heart disease. Oh okay, I can go
Speaker 1: with small people. That's fine, short people and a tall guy,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to say. Land is very rational compared
Speaker 1: to us. Yes, so what they had all they had
Speaker 1: all those years where they got blown out in their
Speaker 1: season ending loss. Uh, And we were like, man, are
Speaker 1: they ever going to play a close NCAA tournament loss again?
Speaker 1: They have, They're just only against Arkansas because Kansas has
Speaker 1: only lost in the tournament twice since twenty fifteen by
Speaker 1: single digits, and it was to since twenty sixteen, and
Speaker 1: it was to Arkansas both times. Arkansas owns Kansas.
Speaker 3: Now they kind of do. Also, would you guys rather
Speaker 3: see them get blown out in the NCAA tournament or
Speaker 3: lose a close game?
Speaker 1: The close game I think I think the blowouts so
Speaker 1: much worse.
Speaker 2: They're both off out RAO game, because I think.
Speaker 1: You're right, like whenever you if I, if I had
Speaker 1: you list all of their recent NCAA losses, the blowouts
Speaker 1: like Villanova and Oregon and Auburn would come to mind
Speaker 1: more quickly than either Auburn game will in a couple
Speaker 1: of years. Like I still Landon and I were talking
Speaker 1: about that Auburn game from two or the the the
Speaker 1: Arkansas game from two years ago. We didn't even remember
Speaker 1: what the score was, just because it's like, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, similar to this.
Speaker 1: Was it not absolutely it was? It was Yeah, Kansas
Speaker 1: led that game by twelve with eight minutes left and
Speaker 1: blew it. This was really the only one it was
Speaker 1: during that game, well you had a headband and he
Speaker 1: didn't score there like any saying. But you know what,
Speaker 1: if I'm just gonna say this right now, if Bill
Speaker 1: self ruins Darren Peterson next year, I'm going to make
Speaker 1: Pearl Harbor look like a past will protest and the
Speaker 1: people who are concerned that Darren Peterson is going to
Speaker 1: bail on Kansas after the last two years. He was
Speaker 1: at Allen Field House earlier today, repping the Jayhawks. He'll
Speaker 1: be playing in a tournament in the area. He is
Speaker 1: going to be a Jayhawk and it will be very,
Speaker 1: very fun. But in order to talk about Jan Peterson,
Speaker 1: we have to talk about this game and this.
Speaker 3: Before we talk about this game, I'm just killing the podcast.
Speaker 3: I know, before we talk about this game, if Darren
Speaker 3: Peterson came to Kansas and Dwan Harris had an extra
Speaker 3: year of eligibility, do you think, yep, is that is
Speaker 3: that what you think happens to.
Speaker 1: Guard Darren Peterson? It absolutely is, yeah, correct, And somebody
Speaker 1: somebody speculated. Somebody asked on Twitter, one of the Beat
Speaker 1: writers if kj's injury means he gets a medical red shirt,
Speaker 1: and Bill self would absolutely positively take that. Even though
Speaker 1: I don't know if kJ would play next year, he
Speaker 1: he legitimately might be out for like twelve months after that. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's that's just too bad. And we'll talk about all
Speaker 1: of it. Also, Yeah, want to lead off before we
Speaker 1: talk about this with the Bob Davis News. Everybody who's
Speaker 1: listening to who Oh, It's it's just gut wrenching. Anyone
Speaker 1: who's listening to this show and has heard my comments
Speaker 1: about Brian Haney or announcers knows that all of that
Speaker 1: stemmed from just being so selfishly tied to Bob Davis
Speaker 1: as a child. That just like a kid who refuses
Speaker 1: to accept that his parents are getting that his mom's
Speaker 1: marrying somebody else. That person could be a perfectly fine person,
Speaker 1: but he's not the guy I'm used to. That's me
Speaker 1: with any announcer that's not Bob Davis. Because I was
Speaker 1: a child listening to Bob called both Royals games and
Speaker 1: Ku games on the road.
Speaker 3: I didn't know he called games.
Speaker 1: He did, and he was not very good at it.
Speaker 1: He was horrible at anything in the air, Like he'd
Speaker 1: be like, oh, that is smashed in the left field
Speaker 1: way back, and oh it's caught ten feet in front
Speaker 1: of the warning track.
Speaker 3: I know that he's passed on, but can I say
Speaker 3: one thing, and it's also something I love about the guy.
Speaker 3: My favorite Bob Davis trait was he would always yell swish,
Speaker 3: even if it wasn't even remotely close to his swish.
Speaker 1: Correct there could be a bank shot, he would yell
Speaker 1: swish yeah. And that's I associate so much of that
Speaker 1: North Carolina Final four game with Bob Davis on the
Speaker 1: call died less than a week after his wife did,
Speaker 1: which is proof that you really truly can die of
Speaker 1: a broken heart. I'm sure there were other things, but
Speaker 1: I mean, just you see it so much with people
Speaker 1: who have been married for so long. And yes, that
Speaker 1: just a wonderful, wonderful person that I met a few
Speaker 1: times at season ending banquets and events, truly did make
Speaker 1: the take time out of his day to go talk
Speaker 1: with everybody as humble and and everybody truly was better
Speaker 1: having listened to him call games. So I wish that
Speaker 1: I could say that that they would have a game
Speaker 1: that could be dedicated to what he deserved, because this
Speaker 1: team did not do Bob Davis justice. But yes, just
Speaker 1: wanted to lead off with that. My my all time
Speaker 1: favorite radio announcer and one of the biggest reasons why
Speaker 1: I love the basketball team that I do. Okay, now
Speaker 1: we must talk about the game itself, which I I
Speaker 1: believe landon Hunter Dickinson all year. This was always gonna
Speaker 1: kind of be the team that went as far as
Speaker 1: Hunter Dickinson takes them. And whenever he has the worst
Speaker 1: game of his season, certainly the worst half of his
Speaker 1: Kansas career. Well, it's not a surprise that the team
Speaker 1: falls flat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do, unfortunately have to start there. He finished
Speaker 2: with eleven points, nine rebounds, and four assists, but he
Speaker 2: was just four or thirteen from the floor and he
Speaker 2: did not score in the second half, far and away
Speaker 2: the worst half of his Kansas career. As you said, Ryan,
Speaker 2: what is the legacy of this guy? I mean, I
Speaker 2: know this is something we've kind of discussed a lot
Speaker 2: on this show, but like it's over now, Like that's it.
Speaker 2: The book, the book is written on Hunter Dickinson now
Speaker 2: his college and his Kansas career. And what does that
Speaker 2: look like? Like, Cam, Cam, degenerate, Robert Frost. What is
Speaker 2: the title of the Hunter Dickinson book?
Speaker 3: I got you? Actually you want Robert Frost here? Yo,
Speaker 3: two roads diverged into Yellowood had all American and the
Speaker 3: other had one NCAA tournament win. I think. So here's
Speaker 3: my thing I think, Dickson is that was pretty good,
Speaker 3: wasn't it. I thought that was pretty solid.
Speaker 1: This is why Cam and and the rest of us
Speaker 1: are the are the people playing the music?
Speaker 3: Well, if I'm a conductor of the trains off the tracks,
Speaker 3: But I also think with Kansas. Hunter is going to
Speaker 3: be very I think he's misunderstood. I actually, through all
Speaker 3: the things that I've said in our group chat, I
Speaker 3: actually do like Hunter Dickinson. I appreciate the fact that
Speaker 3: he came to Kansas. I also feel for him in
Speaker 3: a sense. I actually went to the transfer portal when
Speaker 3: I was playing golf on a much smaller scale, and
Speaker 3: I went to a team and I didn't fit in
Speaker 3: perfectly there. And it's hard to go to a school
Speaker 3: that you haven't been at, and even if you have success,
Speaker 3: you're not guaranteed to have it with the team. I
Speaker 3: think his legacy is that he was a really good player,
Speaker 3: the teams did not fit with him. And I also think, well,
Speaker 3: the sad things will just never know if he could
Speaker 3: have been on like a national title winning haliber team
Speaker 3: because it wasn't in the cards. It just wasn't built correctly,
Speaker 3: and that's unsolved.
Speaker 1: So I want to I think we're gonna do another
Speaker 1: show in the later part of this week when we
Speaker 1: know everything about the first weekend in its entirety, and
Speaker 1: there'll be a little Kansas news by then, and my
Speaker 1: hope is I'll be able to reflect on it a
Speaker 1: little bit more. So I'm gonna I'm gonna think on
Speaker 1: your question, Land, and I'll touch back him because I
Speaker 1: truly don't know what the Hunter Dickinson. Anyone who's listening
Speaker 1: to this show knows my defense of him. This is
Speaker 1: more than just about anyone else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think I think a lot of that's fair.
Speaker 3: I mean, he put up amazing numbers. I will say this,
Speaker 3: I obviously live in Michigan. I've lived in Michigan for
Speaker 3: my whole life, so I've been in Michigan while Hunter
Speaker 3: Dickinson was still playing here. The criticism that fans had
Speaker 3: of him while he was playing for Michigan was that
Speaker 3: he puts up good numbers, but he's not a winner.
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what that means, and I don't
Speaker 3: think they can really qualify it. But you can kind
Speaker 3: of make that argument with his time at Kansas, but again,
Speaker 3: I don't know, because you can't really put it on him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And and I mean it's just hard. I think
Speaker 1: the thing that I'm gonna, I'm gonna because I've been
Speaker 1: so positive with Dickinson and in such defense of him,
Speaker 1: but it's really really hard to sit there and say
Speaker 1: everybody that that pointed out the criticisms and their concerns
Speaker 1: weren't proven completely right by everything that he did in
Speaker 1: the second half here, because statistically he is a two
Speaker 1: time All American and I cringe to think of what
Speaker 1: this team would be without him. And I don't think
Speaker 1: that they would have been any better if you replaced
Speaker 1: him with any big in the country. But the problem
Speaker 1: with Dickinson is, and Landon was on this all year.
Speaker 1: He's a floor setter, not a ceiling center. He's not
Speaker 1: He's not capable of true, of elevating a team and
Speaker 1: putting them on his back and winning them a game.
Speaker 1: And we saw it in this game where he makes
Speaker 1: the worst turnover of the game. He has the worst
Speaker 1: pass that a KU player has had.
Speaker 3: And yeah, since Snark and Jason Beam threw it into
Speaker 3: a hot dog stand Arkansas, mind you, but second Arkansas
Speaker 3: has hit the tower.
Speaker 1: I think it had. I think that Hunter Dickinson, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm gonna come back on it because I
Speaker 1: think Hunter Dickinson should be appreciated more than he will be,
Speaker 1: and some of those situations are outside of his control.
Speaker 1: But at the second one thing, yeah, I go for it.
Speaker 3: Like, I'm gonna pass this off because I've talked way
Speaker 3: too much in the last like five minutes. But what
Speaker 3: I will say, and I've been in our group chat,
Speaker 3: if anyone were to ever read her messages, I'd go
Speaker 3: to prison. But I've been critical of Hunter Dickinson. I
Speaker 3: will say he's handled himself really well off the floor
Speaker 3: as a Jayhawk, and that's something people criticized him for
Speaker 3: at Michigan, So big shout out to Hunter for that,
Speaker 3: and I think that he's going to be underappreciated for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that Hunter Dickinson being twenty four and
Speaker 1: you know, making the money, people think it's a green
Speaker 1: light to criticize, and it's It's kind of the way
Speaker 1: I feel about all players. Criticism is okay, uh criticized
Speaker 1: players and openly question if they if they are for
Speaker 1: the better or worse helping or hurting your team. But
Speaker 1: there's definitely a line you can cross, and we've all
Speaker 1: seen it. I've seen a Kansas account that that that
Speaker 1: on Facebook, a Kansas account talking about how Hunter Dickinson
Speaker 1: is now fielding offers from Uber and Costco and stuff.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, you know what, Like it's like like
Speaker 1: what what what? What looks ugly is when fans turn
Speaker 1: on their own guys and cross the line at the
Speaker 1: same time questioning, all right, Hunter Dickinson, wasn't my cup?
Speaker 1: And see, I think the team's gonna be better with
Speaker 1: the different center for perfectly rational take openly being happy
Speaker 1: that a player is suffering or miserable. That's another one.
Speaker 1: kJ Adams, Dewan Harris. They're national champions. That's their legacy
Speaker 1: and it should be nothing else. They love playing for
Speaker 1: the school. Did it result in the wins we hoped
Speaker 1: it would with them as primary pieces?
Speaker 2: It did not.
Speaker 1: Does that mean that they deserve to read one sentence
Speaker 1: that isn't positive or thanks them for everything that they
Speaker 1: did at Kansas? Absolutely not. Same with Dickinson. Guy was
Speaker 1: the leader of a team that still as frustrating as
Speaker 1: it was and how bad things were for Kansas's standards,
Speaker 1: still back to back twenty win teams that made it
Speaker 1: to the tournament that were the white jerseys in the
Speaker 1: first game. Like, these guys do not deserve the venom
Speaker 1: that I've seen sent their way. And it surprises me
Speaker 1: because you expect it from the rivals, You expect it
Speaker 1: from the sports gamblers. I'm not like those three have
Speaker 1: faced Those three have faced more criticisms from there from
Speaker 1: literal fans than any three players I've ever seen at Kansas,
Speaker 1: And that makes me sad because I don't think they
Speaker 1: deserve it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no one, No one deserves like the absolute
Speaker 2: harassment and horrible things, just heinous stuff that gets thrown
Speaker 2: athletes away, pretty pretty terrible. I fully agree that with
Speaker 2: the uh, you know, anyone can can criticize the players,
Speaker 2: question their fits. That's part of the fun of sports
Speaker 2: is to analyze rosters and all that. That's like, you know,
Speaker 2: part of being a fan. But yeah, there's obviously some
Speaker 2: absolute heinous things that get thrown these guys a way.
Speaker 2: That's terrible.
Speaker 1: Well, I want to go ahead and skip down a
Speaker 1: kJ because I feel like we should talk about him
Speaker 1: next because he fits in there. We'll come back to
Speaker 1: Zeke Mayo. So kJ Adams suffers the achilles injury and
Speaker 1: that's all that matters here because Kansas led by three
Speaker 1: with three minutes left and he popped his achilles. We
Speaker 1: saw it happen, We saw him go down and grab
Speaker 1: the heel. Knew immediately what it looked like. And Self
Speaker 1: more or less confirmed it after the game. We haven't
Speaker 1: heard a confirmed report that it is torn Self said
Speaker 1: they did not anticipate good news, and that was a
Speaker 1: couple of days ago. And I mean it's one of
Speaker 1: those things where you just you just know whenever this happens.
Speaker 1: We've obviously been very critical of kJ for two full years,
Speaker 1: but he scores thirteen points in four boards, and I
Speaker 1: do think that amidst all the talk about criticism, kJ
Speaker 1: Adams elevated his play when the criticism was at an
Speaker 1: all time high after that Utah game. After that Utah game,
Speaker 1: I think it tells a lot about his character because
Speaker 1: whenever the criticism had never been higher, that's when kJ
Speaker 1: played his best basketball of his career. And it absolutely
Speaker 1: blows watching a guy who you can say what you want.
Speaker 1: Did losing kJ Adams' basketball talent make them lose? I
Speaker 1: don't think it did. They could have still won without him.
Speaker 1: But I do think it is very interesting that you
Speaker 1: take the guy who is undoubtedly the biggest competitor, the
Speaker 1: toughest competitor, the guy who loves this school the most,
Speaker 1: and the guy with the most willpower on the team
Speaker 1: out and they folded like wet cardboard.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Oh. The count argument to that from a basketball perspective
Speaker 2: is they folded like wet car board several other times.
Speaker 2: With however, obviously deeply, deeply tragic way for that guy's
Speaker 2: career to go. I mean, obviously we've been very critical
Speaker 2: of that guy, but that's you don't want anyone's career
Speaker 2: to end on a torn achilles with three knots left.
Speaker 1: And he played, he was how many games did they
Speaker 1: lose in Utah? They lost Attack, they lost to Houston,
Speaker 1: and they lost the Zon nine then this one. None
Speaker 1: of those games were Kj's fault. I think you had
Speaker 1: double score seble figures in all of them. Like he was,
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 3: He was not an issue.
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, like you said, Ryan, I mean, he really
Speaker 2: did turn it on. He he was doing exactly the
Speaker 2: things that we were begging him to do and the
Speaker 2: things that we were criticizing him for. He turned it
Speaker 2: on at the end of this season. And that's like
Speaker 2: a very impressive thing to do. He was genuinely great.
Speaker 2: He was everything that we wanted kJ Adams to be
Speaker 2: for the last several weeks of the season. And that's like,
Speaker 2: that's a really impressive step. I don't think it's as
Speaker 2: easy as kJ doesn't get hurt and they win Kansas.
Speaker 2: I agree absolutely could have lost that game, and I
Speaker 2: also agree that the absolutely could have won without him
Speaker 2: as well. It's a it's a really tough way to go,
Speaker 2: but it'll be that'll be another career that'll be very
Speaker 2: interesting in retrospect for Adams, Like, I think he'll be
Speaker 2: loved by fans, but I don't think you know, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think his basketball legacy will will be a
Speaker 2: lot for.
Speaker 1: I think he'll I think for his basketball ability. I
Speaker 1: don't think people will talk about him much in a
Speaker 1: year or two. But he should be remembered.
Speaker 2: As a guy who won.
Speaker 1: Is a national champion. He is and too loved Kansas.
Speaker 1: He's the sort of guy that every program should have.
Speaker 1: None of us, none of us wanted a basketball team
Speaker 1: without kJ Adams. We wanted a basketball team with kJ
Speaker 1: Adams in a different role. But all of us said
Speaker 1: that he has value on a team. His teammates clearly
Speaker 1: love him, his coach loves him, and he's a wonderful dude.
Speaker 1: Like there are so many more important things at the
Speaker 1: end of the day than how many times he put
Speaker 1: the ball in the basket. And I hope that seeing
Speaker 1: kJ walk off the court with that uniform and his
Speaker 1: achilles not only one in the Achilles intact, she'll would
Speaker 1: remind people what really matters. Cam Let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: finish this set. You want to talk about Dewan Harris,
Speaker 1: and then we'll kind of go back and touch on
Speaker 1: the secondary pieces. But in a lot of ways, I
Speaker 1: feel like that this show is the eulogy of the
Speaker 1: Core three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's kind of hard because I feel like
Speaker 3: we've eulogized the Core three for the past four months.
Speaker 3: Dewan Harris ended his Kansas career going four to four
Speaker 3: eleven from the field for eight points of seven, assists,
Speaker 3: a lot of great flashes in there, a lot of
Speaker 3: times where we just put our faces in our hands.
Speaker 3: He didn't score until the thirteen minute mark of the
Speaker 3: second half. You know, for Dwana Harris, he seems like
Speaker 3: a really nice guy. He does a lot of thing
Speaker 3: things really well. I think, in my opinion, at least,
Speaker 3: he should never have been a four year starter. And
Speaker 3: I also tweeted out something about Bill self and le
Speaker 3: Baron Fallon and it was a controversial take.
Speaker 1: I don't think going on in on Dewan Harris was
Speaker 1: necessarily I mean it's I can't say it was the
Speaker 1: right decision because look how it worked, But I don't
Speaker 1: think it was the dumbest thing itself could have done,
Speaker 1: going all in on a fifth year point guard getting
Speaker 1: to play around a team that he thought at fixed
Speaker 1: last year's problems. And Dewan Harris just wasn't as good
Speaker 1: as he was two years ago. He regressed, He was
Speaker 1: a worse player shooting the ball league was worse. He
Speaker 1: scored more than he did this year because his volume
Speaker 1: was so elevated, but it was the worst shooting season
Speaker 1: of his career. And defensively there was a lot of
Speaker 1: regression there too, and he didn't play well at all
Speaker 1: in the first half. He was part of the reason
Speaker 1: they fell behind. They did well with him on the bench,
Speaker 1: and yet you still knew, just because of how they
Speaker 1: were constructed, they weren't winning the game without Harris going
Speaker 1: back in there and playing better on defense, and ultimately
Speaker 1: down the stretch, he couldn't get them to the offense
Speaker 1: he needed. Landon, I think that you're what you wrote
Speaker 1: is correct. He's a great kid he would have had
Speaker 1: none of us won him off the team. We won
Speaker 1: him in a different role, and he was a player
Speaker 1: of his skill set. With all respect to him. Should
Speaker 1: should never be a school like Kansas as all time
Speaker 1: leader in minutes in games like that. That just that's
Speaker 1: not Dewan's fault. By the way, he didn't choose to
Speaker 1: play himself thirty six minutes a game. It just shouldn't
Speaker 1: have happened that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously, like the extra year and stuff adds
Speaker 2: into stats like that too, But yeah, Dewan Harris again,
Speaker 2: it will be a very complicated legacy. A guy that
Speaker 2: is a national champion, contributed on a national championship winning team,
Speaker 2: was the starting point guard on a one seed the
Speaker 2: following season. Like, you know, I don't think anyone thinks
Speaker 2: to one Harris sucks. I think as we've been pounding
Speaker 2: the drum on all season. Really, what happened on these
Speaker 2: two years teams, especially this year's team, is it's just
Speaker 2: a complete fit issue, and when everyone is not really
Speaker 2: a good fit with one another, and the general construction
Speaker 2: of these teams really allowed for people's weaknesses to be
Speaker 2: further exposed. When the fit is bad, strengths are minimized
Speaker 2: and weaknesses are amplified. And I think that was really
Speaker 2: really evident, particularly with Harris on a team that had
Speaker 2: no killer instinct and the one guy you really wanted
Speaker 2: to be creative was like Zeke Mayo, and he really
Speaker 2: didn't have a lot of or he had that, but
Speaker 2: it was way streakier than you wanted it to be,
Speaker 2: partly because he was also forced to because of the
Speaker 2: same exact problem that I'm talking about with Harris and
Speaker 2: the general roster construction. But like Harris's passiveness really really
Speaker 2: shined in a way that you just can't have it
Speaker 2: for a fifth year point guard. Look, there there will
Speaker 2: be moments. I hope Darren Peterson doesn't do this, but
Speaker 2: there will probably be some moments next year, much like
Speaker 2: Ryan has talked about with Hunter Dickinson, there's gonna be
Speaker 2: moments next season where you're like, man, they don't have
Speaker 2: a guy that scores seventeen and ten on the block.
Speaker 2: I think with Darren Peterson you're gonna have a couple
Speaker 2: early moments in the year where you're gonna go, oh,
Speaker 2: that's a really, really stupid mistake that I think Darren
Speaker 2: peateron will correct and he'll fully he's also scoring like
Speaker 2: twenty a night, and we'll correct that with that. But
Speaker 2: you're gonna have You're gonna have some moments. Really, Oh
Speaker 2: de one Harris was really calm on the ball, and
Speaker 2: he had a very veteran presence. I think that's true.
Speaker 2: But I think his weaknesses will make him a very
Speaker 2: interesting case. Again, I think we'll be very popular among
Speaker 2: general fandom, but will not really have any stats whatsoever
Speaker 2: to back that up.
Speaker 1: Here's Zeke Mayo eighteen point six rebounds. He only took
Speaker 1: eight shots, which was baffling. He was five for eight overall,
Speaker 1: four for five from three, also went four for four
Speaker 1: at the line. He had the best scoring season you
Speaker 1: could have hoped for. At the beginning of the year,
Speaker 1: you had been told Mayo was gonna get you fifteen
Speaker 1: a night and shoot forty two percent on threes, you
Speaker 1: would have been a static. But I think the overall
Speaker 1: words that I'll think of that that are kind of
Speaker 1: thru with Zeke Mao is a kind of a one
Speaker 1: trick pony. And look, he has tons of value, like
Speaker 1: a three point shooter at this accuracy and this volume
Speaker 1: has a ton of value and Wow, would I kill
Speaker 1: to have him back next year. But really sloppy on defense,
Speaker 1: really rough ball handling, had another one of his once
Speaker 1: per game, Oh, I stepped on the line with the
Speaker 1: ball and it's going the other way now. A complicated
Speaker 1: year where I think he could have benefited a lot
Speaker 1: from having better pieces around him who couldn't have. But ultimately,
Speaker 1: in a season where so much went wrong, I think
Speaker 1: Zeke Mayo gets at least an a minus. He had
Speaker 1: a good enough season where you're not looking at him
Speaker 1: and thinking he was responsible for why the team didn't
Speaker 1: hit their ceiling and it sucks for me or it
Speaker 1: sucks for him. Rather the way I think of it,
Speaker 1: that he waited his whole life to play for Kansas
Speaker 1: and the team that he got to be a part of.
Speaker 1: For all that we've seen Kansas be over the years,
Speaker 1: it just it just wasn't what we thought it would be.
Speaker 1: Cam tell me a little bit about the let's wrap
Speaker 1: up the players, and then I want to I have
Speaker 1: a Bill cell take tell me about aj store and
Speaker 1: Ryland Griffin, and then we can just kind of kind
Speaker 1: of put them in a bed, probably for the last time.
Speaker 3: Probably aj Storer had fifteen points on four for seven shooting.
Speaker 3: He did make a couple of threes and made five
Speaker 3: of six free throw attempts. Ryland Griffin had three points
Speaker 3: on one for four shooting in thirteen minutes. David quite
Speaker 3: more or less did nothing in thirteen minutes. Shack Moore
Speaker 3: played three minutes, Flair Badunga had four and five and
Speaker 3: seventeen minutes. In the case of aj Store, do you
Speaker 3: guys want him back?
Speaker 1: I think, says a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I would. I would say yes.
Speaker 1: I would say yes for for roster continuity's sake. Yes,
Speaker 1: I would want.
Speaker 2: You want this roster to have continuity.
Speaker 3: I just don't reason.
Speaker 1: I think we're starting from the portal every year. Is
Speaker 1: isn't going to work hardly at all.
Speaker 2: I agree, I think in this case you want to
Speaker 2: do more of that than not.
Speaker 3: I actually know what I think. Ryan's right. I I
Speaker 3: take back what I said. We saw at the end
Speaker 3: of the year. For whatever reason, A J. Store started
Speaker 3: to look like the player that he was supposed to be.
Speaker 3: Why it took that long, I don't know, and I'm
Speaker 3: sure people within the program do. But if the program
Speaker 3: fits and the players come in fit with him, he
Speaker 3: could be really good.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to see him go for
Speaker 2: zero points on five against Saint John's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was absolutely I'm not gonna there's gonna be
Speaker 1: questions about who's back and ask garcib so I'll save
Speaker 1: kind of my deep answers for that. Yeah. Bill self
Speaker 1: said kJ and Wan are like sons to him, which
Speaker 1: Atlanta says is sweet and explains everything I mean those
Speaker 1: Bill self said that there aren't any There aren't any
Speaker 1: humans besides his wife that he has spent more time
Speaker 1: with in the last almost decade than kJ Adams and
Speaker 1: Dewan Harris because they've been a part of his program
Speaker 1: for five years. And it's true, and it really like
Speaker 1: when you think of a part of Bill Self's job
Speaker 1: that I truly can't imagine, is this is not just
Speaker 1: Madden or nbah u K where you're signing free agents. Yea,
Speaker 1: they that you just sign them and that's it and
Speaker 1: you never have to look at their personal lives. The
Speaker 1: things that Dewan Harris and kJ Adams have gone through
Speaker 1: off the court, and they're very very short amount of
Speaker 1: life is so much more horrid, so much more horrible
Speaker 1: than anybody can imagine, Like they have gone through more
Speaker 1: crap off the court with families and violence and death.
Speaker 1: Then then a lot of people go through in a
Speaker 1: lifetime and they're barely in their early twenties, Like can
Speaker 1: I can totally imagine how that has a special place
Speaker 1: in Bill Self's heart because he talked about this with
Speaker 1: Zamori Traylor and in a lot of ways, if it
Speaker 1: weren't for Bill Self and Kansas, Jamari Traylor may have
Speaker 1: never made it to age twenty five because of all
Speaker 1: the gun violence that he dealt with.
Speaker 3: On a regular base story.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's the same thing with Dewan Harris and kJ
Speaker 1: Adams and the things they went through and kJ losing
Speaker 1: his mom and Dewan being homeless and being taken in
Speaker 1: by Christian Brown's family, Like, yeah, I can understand. I
Speaker 1: can understand how those guys mean a whole lot to him,
Speaker 1: And I think it's good for Bill Self as well,
Speaker 1: because these guys aren't dying. They're still going to be
Speaker 1: in Bill Self's life. But Self gets a restart with
Speaker 1: his basketball team, a different roster, some fresh faces at
Speaker 1: the core of his program, and these two should be
Speaker 1: celebrated for helping Kansas win a national title. I think
Speaker 1: it's probably should be left at that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's absolutely fair.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Then the stats here, Arkansas is the second team to
Speaker 1: eliminate bill Self from two NCAA tournaments. The other is
Speaker 1: who else but Villanova Before they had done once, there
Speaker 1: was this here we go, here comes the two seat.
Speaker 3: I hope that I have a take on the show
Speaker 3: that is so bad that it becomes a drop.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm sure I do. Actually, I've gotten lazier cam.
Speaker 1: I don't go back and drop things like I used to,
Speaker 1: So you gotta have it be a banger.
Speaker 3: I I will.
Speaker 1: Here's my bill Self take. Here's my bill Self take,
Speaker 1: and then we can well. And then there's also the
Speaker 1: big twelve went six and one. You'll in the first
Speaker 1: round of tournament. You'll you'll, you'll never, you'll never.
Speaker 3: Guess damn it.
Speaker 1: I think that Bill Self was let down by his team.
Speaker 1: I thought that he coached very well in the second half.
Speaker 1: I thought he pulled out that ugly ass triangle and
Speaker 1: two defense that he seemingly pulls out against Caliperry every
Speaker 1: handful of years. And I thought that the fact that
Speaker 1: they were up by a basket with four minutes left.
Speaker 1: Considering how the game had gone was a testament to
Speaker 1: how well he did. And it bums me out because
Speaker 1: I think that Self deserved better. He certainly had a
Speaker 1: rough year, and we're not going to be harboring him,
Speaker 1: or we're not going to be banging the Bill Self
Speaker 1: for Coach of the Year drawn by any stretch, but well,
Speaker 1: he certainly wasn't drawing up Hey Hunter, throw it into
Speaker 1: the back court plays.
Speaker 3: Question for you guys, where do we stand on Bill Self?
Speaker 1: I think that he will be just fine. I think
Speaker 1: that he's going to get a fresh start with a
Speaker 1: wiped off corps and anchored by the potential number one
Speaker 1: pick in the twenty twenty six NBA draft. And I
Speaker 1: think Kansas will win lots of games next year. And
Speaker 1: I think Bill Self is closer to another Final Four
Speaker 1: than he is being washed.
Speaker 2: And unshockingly, I am a little bit further south of
Speaker 2: that opinion probably, I think, well, now to this exact
Speaker 2: point in fairness, what does it say of cal that
Speaker 2: he was not ready for a triangle in two when
Speaker 2: he's the only coach in America that Bill Self runs
Speaker 2: the triangle in two at all against Ever, Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: crazy pants that he didn't know that was coming, because
Speaker 2: Bill self only pulls that out against John cal Perry.
Speaker 2: But regardless, I do think Bill there's a chance that
Speaker 2: Bill is has a disease in the only Kira's retirement.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I mean, I do think he
Speaker 2: coached really well in this game. I think he far
Speaker 2: out coached cal. That's a little bit like saying a
Speaker 2: five year old dunked on a toddler. It doesn't be
Speaker 2: a lot necessarily, and the goal was at two feet,
Speaker 2: but it happened, So I don't you know, there's some
Speaker 2: juice there for sure, And if he has a better roster,
Speaker 2: I think you might see that. We'll see. I mean,
Speaker 2: maybe I'm really really sleeping on him because he's a
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame coach and a two time national champion.
Speaker 1: But he was a national champion three years ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's a I agree.
Speaker 2: Where he sat his best player in a two thousand
Speaker 2: points score on the bench most of the Season's.
Speaker 1: That did happen, Yep, yep, I know factually, So we'll see.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens, and we're hoping for the best
Speaker 1: because I think that Kansas will reload. I think that
Speaker 1: they're uh, they're one, and their five are pretty much
Speaker 1: set for next year, assuming floor doesn't run off. I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna get a couple shooters. I think that
Speaker 1: they're going to look very different and be very good
Speaker 1: next year. I think they're gonna be very high in
Speaker 1: the preseason polls, and I think they're gonna win lots
Speaker 1: of basketball games.
Speaker 3: And if they just don't be preseason one, and if.
Speaker 1: They don't win a lot of basketball games and next
Speaker 1: year doesn't go very well, then it's gonna get really
Speaker 1: interesting because I think everybody is willing to give Bill
Speaker 1: self the Okay, you went all in on three guys
Speaker 1: that were super seniors and some they all had as success,
Speaker 1: but the piece just didn't fit together. Let's see what
Speaker 1: you can do without that. If we wipe it clean
Speaker 1: and the results still look pretty similar despite a completely
Speaker 1: different set of faces, then you're gonna start having some
Speaker 1: legitimate questions. And then I think you're gonna see the
Speaker 1: national guy start to question things a little bit more,
Speaker 1: which is fair because the fan base is way too impatient.
Speaker 3: Just remember too, like tom Izzo had a stretch, John
Speaker 3: Calipari had a stretch where things did not go well.
Speaker 3: John Caliperry is allegedly, because we're recording this, not during
Speaker 3: the second round of the NCAA Tournament, going to the
Speaker 3: sweet sixteen. Spoiler alert for anyone out there listening. Tom
Speaker 3: Mizzo probably allegedly probably going to the sweet sixteen. Bill
Speaker 3: self is a Hall of Fame coach. He did not
Speaker 3: forget how to coach. I think he just had a
Speaker 3: bad roster. And maybe I'll be completely wrong, Yep.
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. And in this game, one final time,
Speaker 1: because I know how much everybody loves these numbers, I
Speaker 1: gotta scroll all the way down at the bottom of
Speaker 1: the bracket because all they do is make us do
Speaker 1: extra work. But the Kansas basketball Jayhawks and their final
Speaker 1: game of the year, shot forty three percent, same number
Speaker 1: as Arkansas. They made eight of seventeen threes. Kansas shot
Speaker 1: almost fifty percent on threes in their last three games
Speaker 1: of the year, and the results were one and two
Speaker 1: with almost oh and three thanks UCF. Kansas also eighty
Speaker 1: eight percent of the line they won on the glass,
Speaker 1: they turned it over sixteen times. That number was eleven
Speaker 1: at the final TV time out. That was simply put
Speaker 1: your game. Sometimes it's simple, sometimes it's not.
Speaker 3: This time it was quite this is this is super
Speaker 3: out of pocket. But have you guys seen Grand Canyons
Speaker 3: women's basketball coach. I would give her the gasoline to
Speaker 3: bird down my house.
Speaker 2: No, but we're we're making a Google Now I've deemed
Speaker 2: that important.
Speaker 3: Enough to hop in. It's Molly something.
Speaker 1: Whoa, I'm I'm the answer is better than Yukon's women's
Speaker 1: basketball coach.
Speaker 3: I well, that's a man, Ryan, I'm not into that.
Speaker 1: Correct And yes, the answer is absolutely yes. So somehow
Speaker 1: I look forward to hearing Nick say no ye, he Nik, yeah.
Speaker 2: Cam and landon gasoline suicide pack.
Speaker 1: That's okay, you'll already have the gasoline round after watching
Speaker 1: Darren Peterson lose twelve games somehow. All right, let's talk
Speaker 1: about other games, other games, and well there are there
Speaker 1: are other games. They they are happening, but none of
Speaker 1: them have anything to do with the Jayhawks.
Speaker 3: So hello darkness, my old friend.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna drive and the top left because.
Speaker 3: Well, Jim Aheim has beyond the week that tournament sucked.
Speaker 1: Like so far, it's not just because Kansas lost like,
Speaker 1: there's been no big upsets, at least in the first round.
Speaker 1: Now you're starting to see the sweet sixteen teams come in,
Speaker 1: so obviously you're gonna see more higher ranked teams lose
Speaker 1: than you did in the first round. But there was
Speaker 1: not a single one, two, three, or four that lost
Speaker 1: in the first round of the NCAA tournament, just the
Speaker 1: second time since two thousand and four that that's happened. Landon,
Speaker 1: you were at my house for a lot of the
Speaker 1: first round on the first day, and we kind of
Speaker 1: went back and forth with some cope. We were like, man,
Speaker 1: I want to see a big upset, but that usually
Speaker 1: means the longer the better team stay in it, the
Speaker 1: better the back off of the tournament is. But I
Speaker 1: also want to see a crazy upset, Like has this
Speaker 1: felt very mid so far?
Speaker 3: Has Es cam over under four and a half big
Speaker 3: women chained up in his basement, blink if you need.
Speaker 2: Help under, but it's under, but it's two.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: What makes you think bit more is better? We've already
Speaker 1: decided bigger is better, But what makes you think more we?
Speaker 3: I don't know if we is the answer to that.
Speaker 1: That's fine, that's fine. I made a Lizzo joke on
Speaker 1: Twitter yesterday. It was for you, Cam, you were you
Speaker 1: were my inspiration for it.
Speaker 3: You're welcome. I like, I like it.
Speaker 2: My life did come up while I was at Ryan's house.
Speaker 1: It was it was in it was on somebody in
Speaker 1: the account the most watched recently joke.
Speaker 3: Ryan's for you page on Instagram is like Golden Corral
Speaker 3: ads and ozempic.
Speaker 1: Cam always knows what to say and sometimes it's things
Speaker 1: that make me think I'm gonna have to go be
Speaker 1: that that time, it wasn't. It was just very very funny.
Speaker 3: That's all right, sir.
Speaker 1: Right in the top.
Speaker 2: So anyway, it was mid right, yes, it was including
Speaker 2: nines and tens. I believe it was seven lower seeds
Speaker 2: beat higher seeds out of.
Speaker 1: Thirty two out of thirty two. Yeah, Like it was
Speaker 1: at a point where I got like all but eight
Speaker 1: games in the first round, right, which normally you go
Speaker 1: twenty four and eight in the first round. And that's good.
Speaker 1: It's in the bottom half of the fifty percentile this
Speaker 1: year because there were just no shockers. Yeah, so shocky
Speaker 1: and like there's been a couple of higher seeds that
Speaker 1: have gone down in the sweet sixteen or in the
Speaker 1: round of thirty two games we've seen this far, but
Speaker 1: none of them are true shockers, like we haven't seen
Speaker 1: the first huge domino to fall has not yet this tournament.
Speaker 1: And Auburn, despite screwing around for a half against Alabama State,
Speaker 1: ultimately won by twenty. It was not a particularly great
Speaker 1: first week for the SEC, was a really good one
Speaker 1: for the Big twelve, and a really good one for
Speaker 1: the Big ten. SEC looked pretty mid, as evidenced by
Speaker 1: the eight to nine game where Creighton blew the doors
Speaker 1: off Louisville in the KFC Young Center. Oh no, it's
Speaker 1: not in Louisville.
Speaker 2: Was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It was right down the street, right Yeah. Land knew Land.
Speaker 1: And it is very hard and you will quite possibly
Speaker 1: never again in your life lose a final four team
Speaker 1: in the first game of the NCAA tournament. That's impressive.
Speaker 2: I think I have before. I can't remember what it was,
Speaker 2: but I just off like there's an emotional resonance deep
Speaker 2: within me that tells me that happened more than once. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I think I think it has.
Speaker 1: And then Creighton wound up given Auburn a game, but
Speaker 1: not enough Auburn looks like they're gonna move on. We're
Speaker 1: recording in the middle of that. Uh yeah, Creighton, they
Speaker 1: have all these old people, and it was no match
Speaker 1: for Louisville, Like they blitzed Louisville in the tournament. That's
Speaker 1: exactly how I imagine it's gonna happen to Kansas eventually. Hell,
Speaker 1: it happened to Kansas this year.
Speaker 2: I I I want to I want to do a
Speaker 2: little pull back the curtain real fast. And why on
Speaker 2: why Cam has set a leegen to games that have
Speaker 2: definitely happened and happened by the time you're listening, Why
Speaker 2: are saying allegedly to that because before the show and
Speaker 2: this has happened before. And I get it to an extent,
Speaker 2: because Ryan wants the show to be more simple, which
Speaker 2: is fair because this show does not need more complexity.
Speaker 1: That's we're always pushing the time limit and I'm a
Speaker 1: simple guy, and when you have on your roster, getting
Speaker 1: it to simple is kind of hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But Ryan was like, let's pretend as though because
Speaker 2: we're recording this on Saturday night, it's currently quarter after
Speaker 2: eight Central Time, so we're right in the middle of
Speaker 2: day three I'm watching BYU Wisconsin happen right now. Ran
Speaker 2: was like, but Ryan was like, let's pretend like the
Speaker 2: first round happened. And then Ryan and I was like,
Speaker 2: why that's weirder to me than if we just say
Speaker 2: we're okay, b Yu and Wisconsin are going to have
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 1: Okay, now the word him, I didn't mean like we're
Speaker 1: on bar me and we have to like really pretend
Speaker 1: we're firefighters, Like like, I didn't mean.
Speaker 3: It literally fight a Chuck E Cheese animatronic or a
Speaker 3: Barney costume man, but who's in the Barney costume.
Speaker 1: A much bigger person. That's well then if I'm not
Speaker 1: a child, I'm gonna be okay.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, I Like everyone's like, how many times do
Speaker 3: you have to mute Cam? And then Ryan's like, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna make a joke about domestic violence.
Speaker 1: Hey, I, well there wasn't. It was a joke about
Speaker 1: you making a joke child. Seth Davis. Seth Davis did
Speaker 1: say Chris Beard is doing what Chris Beard does, and
Speaker 1: I responded saying it's domestic violence and it was a
Speaker 1: great ratio, Yes, very good ratio, and then stepped in
Speaker 1: yes yes, Cam stepped in to point out that the
Speaker 1: child abuse or the wife abuse rather was alleged, that
Speaker 1: is corrected, that got thrown out in court. But anyway, Yes,
Speaker 1: my thinking was, if we just focus on the first round,
Speaker 1: then we'll have a show where we recap the second round,
Speaker 1: because then we're not like, most of these games haven't happened,
Speaker 1: but exactly two of them have gone final. Whatever, do
Speaker 1: whatever you want. You get paid enough to be able
Speaker 1: to drive Creighton Beville and then in the five to
Speaker 1: four some some upsets were picked here and none of
Speaker 1: them happened because Michigan beat UC San Diego and what
Speaker 1: was one of two good games on the first day
Speaker 1: of the tournament, UC San Diego got hot, wasn't enough.
Speaker 1: We all were rooting for them. Their colors were cool,
Speaker 1: their logos much cooler than Michigan, but they ultimately fall short,
Speaker 1: and the Texas A and M does to Yale what
Speaker 1: every four ceed does the Yale except for Auburn, which
Speaker 1: has beat them in an uninteresting game. Not a great
Speaker 1: week for the SEC, but most of their their top
Speaker 1: teams did okay? Right? Is that kind of That's probably
Speaker 1: all you can hope for when you get fourteen teams
Speaker 1: in the tournament, they're not all gonna be winners.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the true contenders in the SEC are all still alive.
Speaker 2: It's been a little shakier after that. But yes, the great,
Speaker 2: the great teams, the teams we thought were really going
Speaker 2: to contend haven't lost yet.
Speaker 1: Right on the cusp there, as Stephen Ashworth is pulled
Speaker 1: in this Creighton game for the final time, Buddy is
Speaker 1: very scared that LinkedIn now awaits him. See, I can
Speaker 1: make a joke about Creighton because I don't root for Creighton.
Speaker 1: I don't want to tweet that Adam or anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Stephen Ashworth is gonna have a great pro career.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
Speaker 3: Ryan? Looks exactly what you would think.
Speaker 1: By the way, Stephen Ashworth is older than Luka Doncic.
Speaker 1: How is out enough more than twenty five and a half.
Speaker 3: That's older, dude. I took I took about four lifetimes
Speaker 3: in college and I wasn't that old when I finished.
Speaker 1: There goes Ryan Kalchbrenner out for the final time. Bro
Speaker 1: has three defensive Big East Player of the Year awards.
Speaker 1: Holy dude, it's.
Speaker 3: Time the grad A system just hugged him. Like on
Speaker 3: the bench, and it looks like one of those prom
Speaker 3: pictures where the girls like looking up at the guy.
Speaker 1: Because he like eight feet tall. And it's quite sad
Speaker 1: to leave his one hundred and nine and ninetieth college
Speaker 1: game a loser. It's okay, it happens, right, guys.
Speaker 2: Would you believe me if I told you Byu is
Speaker 2: scoring a lot of points?
Speaker 3: Who could have seen that?
Speaker 1: Somebody in the somebody in the Big twelve is pretty good.
Speaker 1: Bottom half of the top left bracket. Ole Miss beats
Speaker 1: North Carolina and a game that was trying to be good,
Speaker 1: and it was a good comeback by the Tar Hills,
Speaker 1: they ultimately could not close the gap enough. Iowa State
Speaker 1: blows out lipscumb in a game that was never close,
Speaker 1: and then New Mexico pulls the upside over Shaka's marquette team.
Speaker 1: I'll come right back to that. Michigan State beats Brian
Speaker 1: after a close first half. So that means, if you're
Speaker 1: keeping track, that there are more Patinos coaching in the
Speaker 1: second round of the NCAA Tournament than there are ACC schools.
Speaker 2: But I want to talk about Shaka.
Speaker 1: I want I want to talk about Shaka Smart, because
Speaker 1: Shaka Smart. There fluky things happen. Sports are fluky in nature.
Speaker 1: Things happen, and because they wouldn't happen again if you
Speaker 1: played that game again, That's what makes upset so magical.
Speaker 1: But I am convinced the more that time goes on
Speaker 1: that the single flukiest thing in the history of Division
Speaker 1: one men's college basketball was VCU's victory over Kansas in
Speaker 1: the twenty eleven and Laite eight. If you played that
Speaker 1: game two hundred times, Kansas would win one hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety nine of them. They did not win that day
Speaker 1: because a bunch of future investment bankers made in Black
Speaker 1: Jersey's made a bunch of threes, and Kansas could not
Speaker 1: throw it in the ocean. But Shaka Smart since that day,
Speaker 1: since twenty eleven, Shaka Smart has made ten NCAA tournaments.
Speaker 1: We're gonna just focus on the last nine, spanning the
Speaker 1: last I believe it's twelve years. Since two thousand and fourteen,
Speaker 1: he's coached at three different schools. That would be VCU,
Speaker 1: that'd be Texas, and that would be Marquette. Shaka Smart
Speaker 1: has lost nine NCAA tournament games. Every single one of
Speaker 1: those games has come to a team that is seeded
Speaker 1: seven or worse. Eight of those nine games have come
Speaker 1: to teams seeded worse than he was, and an amazing
Speaker 1: seven of his nine NCAA tournament losses have come against
Speaker 1: teams that were seated at least three slots worse than
Speaker 1: his In the last nine NCAA tournament, Shaka Smart has
Speaker 1: lost to team seeded ten, eleven, seven, nine, fourteen, seven, eleven, ten,
Speaker 1: and twelve. He is a bum, a bum in every
Speaker 1: sense of the word. That got that one game where
Speaker 1: his fluky ass team shot their way past Kansas in
Speaker 1: the Elite eight, and he has wrote it to fifteen
Speaker 1: years and three jobs, heist and all around heist because
Speaker 1: he is a bum. And I cannot believe that you
Speaker 1: have people like Seth Davis, Oh, Shaka good everything you
Speaker 1: could have had a this team. I'm Seth. I like shappies, buddy,
Speaker 1: Seth Davis, listen to me. Shaka Smart went five and
Speaker 1: eight after January ended, and he has arguably the best
Speaker 1: point guard in the country on his team. He sucks
Speaker 1: balls b A l LS balls. That is what Shaka
Speaker 1: Smart sucks. And any team that is convinced to give
Speaker 1: him more money to coach. Their team should have their
Speaker 1: heads examined, because that is crazy, crazy, crazy talk. This
Speaker 1: very anti Shaka. Screw him for twenty eleven and he sucks.
Speaker 2: On em the show. I've been playing a lot of
Speaker 2: Emily the Show lately doing franchise sims. They have like
Speaker 2: a clutch rating on all the players, so you know,
Speaker 2: I think it's across a lot of sports games as well.
Speaker 2: You have a clutch rating where you come up with
Speaker 2: the big moments. Shakas is a zero zero clutch is
Speaker 2: going down somehow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he looks better with hair. I'll give him that.
Speaker 1: He looks younger with his hair, but he's not coaching
Speaker 1: any better.
Speaker 3: And the thing compared to Tomas, though, the.
Speaker 2: Weird thing with Shaka is that he like does get
Speaker 2: his teams to the tournament mostly like he's not a
Speaker 2: bad regular.
Speaker 1: And they're normally good. They're normally a high seed.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and Texas had several good teams. They did
Speaker 2: underachieve obviously, but that's not abnormal for Texas anyway. But yeah,
Speaker 2: when they get to the tournament, they just fold.
Speaker 1: He's Rick Barnes. He is Rick Barnes, and it's ironic
Speaker 1: he replaced Rick Barnes at Texas. But Rick Barnes also
Speaker 1: has way, way, way, way way more on the list
Speaker 1: of of NBA players coach than Rick Barnes has a
Speaker 1: Final four that wasn't a total coach Kevin Durant, Yeah, exactly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Rick Barnes is. And obviously then Rick Barnes went to
Speaker 1: another school and has had a lot of success at Tennessee.
Speaker 3: A team that looks like a muppet on ozembic.
Speaker 1: He does. He has lost weight, has any and he
Speaker 1: wasn't really that big to begin with. He does, don't
Speaker 1: even know about that.
Speaker 3: He just has some massive nose and he looks like
Speaker 3: a rat.
Speaker 1: Shaka Smart has cross tattoos on the top of his hands.
Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not condoning that. I'm not criticizing
Speaker 1: that either. It's just it's an observation. I've never seen
Speaker 1: another human being with a single tattoo on the top
Speaker 1: of his hands that looks like a very painful place
Speaker 1: to get much like pain that, much like the pain
Speaker 1: feel watching him lose as a high seed in the
Speaker 1: tournament every year. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The funniest thing to me, the absolute funniest thing to me,
Speaker 3: Ryan Ryan underscore Landrith has a fetish for Golden Corral ladies.
Speaker 3: He's as Caucasian as again, this man could not recite
Speaker 3: a Tupac Shakur verse if his life depended on it.
Speaker 1: Couldn't even spell it.
Speaker 3: This man also has a full sleeve tattoo. And it
Speaker 3: bothers me. It bothers me. Okay, yeah, like you of
Speaker 3: all people that I'm not gonna but it just shocks
Speaker 3: me to my core.
Speaker 1: You're talking like pain tolerance. You can't believe that that's
Speaker 1: a thing, or I'm too just you in.
Speaker 3: General, dude, you are so Caucasian that you make a
Speaker 3: polar bear look like freaking Stephen Jackson.
Speaker 1: That is very, very very true. All of what you
Speaker 1: said is true. And yeah, I do have a I.
Speaker 3: Can't believe this. Yeah, I don't believe what. What is
Speaker 3: what is your tattoo?
Speaker 1: It is the solar system. It starts. It's the sun
Speaker 1: on the very top of my shoulder with the rays
Speaker 1: that go all out and it. Yeah, and I'm working
Speaker 1: on tattoos. Leaves are quite expensive to continue working on
Speaker 1: in full day.
Speaker 3: They're pain.
Speaker 1: Really, it didn't hurt that bad, It's it really didn't
Speaker 1: like And I'm a big whist for pain. They did
Speaker 1: the asteroid to the asteroid belt goes right around the
Speaker 1: lower part of my biceps, so they had to get
Speaker 1: real low into that bicep. That hurt like a bitch,
Speaker 1: like that was a horrible. Yeah, but really everything else
Speaker 1: was do you have tattoos? Uh?
Speaker 2: No, I will, like I will probably get one eventually.
Speaker 2: I do not have one.
Speaker 1: I've been obsessed with the solar system since I was
Speaker 1: like in diapers, Like that's always been my my interest.
Speaker 1: I'm really hoping that I win the I really hoping
Speaker 1: that I got what you said. I really I really
Speaker 1: want to win the March Madness Tournament that the bracket competition,
Speaker 1: so elon Musk takes me to Mars because that's the
Speaker 1: top prize. You don't get it, it's gonna say that's
Speaker 1: that's we're gonna blow up. But yeah, no, that's always
Speaker 1: been my thing and I need Uh I'm gonna fill
Speaker 1: it in at some point and do do more work
Speaker 1: around it. No, that's really cool, but yeah, I it's
Speaker 1: it's very anti it's very anti brand, I'm sure because
Speaker 1: it's not scream tattoos.
Speaker 3: Screams mental illness.
Speaker 1: Landon why don't you scream about the East region, because
Speaker 1: that is another quadrant of the bracket that we have
Speaker 1: not talked about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me let me scroll back to my bracket
Speaker 2: here in a second. Okay, it's the.
Speaker 1: One with a lot of red on it.
Speaker 2: It has less red than some. It has a lot
Speaker 2: less in the South, that's for sure. Okay, let's let's
Speaker 2: see what we got here. Okay, starting at the top
Speaker 2: of the East.
Speaker 3: South is quite red. They don't took our rat Number
Speaker 3: one Florida.
Speaker 1: That's not the East. That's also not the top right.
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's not where am I? I could have?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, I scrolled down too far. Number one Duke had
Speaker 2: about the same result as number one Florida. The ruhmount
Speaker 2: Sat there's ninety three to forty nine. They look very
Speaker 2: much the part. They are also the only a SEC
Speaker 2: team remaining in the bracket. How long is that gonna lays?
Speaker 2: They will take on their nine Baylor, who's very talented.
Speaker 3: MISSISISPPI State second Amendment.
Speaker 1: Baylor in Mississippi State was the first game of the
Speaker 1: second day and it was quite good, and the second
Speaker 1: day was better.
Speaker 3: Wade VJ.
Speaker 1: Edgecombe was really good and that's one prediction we got right.
Speaker 1: I think we all went with Baylor and we said, hey,
Speaker 1: they got the superstar. Mississippi's eight doesn't like We'll talk
Speaker 1: about the SEC when we get to Oklahoma. Save Oklahoma
Speaker 1: for me. Uh and that's when I'll dunk on the SEC.
Speaker 1: But like Mississippi State, I know that they lost to
Speaker 1: a lot of good teams. They were still losses. Probably
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been an eight seed. Think West Virginia was
Speaker 1: just as good as Mississippi State looking back on it.
Speaker 2: Two blowouts in the four and five little mini quadrant. Here,
Speaker 2: Oregon blows away Liberty eighty one fifty two Liberty to
Speaker 2: the Sweet sixteen. Because I'm a moron, they got.
Speaker 3: Raw lad Organ and Happiness.
Speaker 2: Number four. Arizona also blew out accurate in the game.
Speaker 2: That was I mean, it was like close in the
Speaker 2: twenty eight, a few definite and then Arizona just annihilated them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Arizona's good. Caleb Love is a demon in the tournament.
Speaker 1: Like this is just January February, Caleber, I love my country.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Cam is doing Cam started doing podcast,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought it was Roy Williams at first,
Speaker 1: but I don't think I think it's w now.
Speaker 2: I think this is the voice of the Vietnam Kermit
Speaker 2: that he is in the group chat. That's what he
Speaker 2: sounds like.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, keep going, No, you shouldn't stop before we
Speaker 1: talk about this next team. This next team is the
Speaker 1: one that deserves it the most.
Speaker 3: I'll just keep going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, number six b YU, they get my number eleven VCU.
Speaker 2: I did not see this game as I was driving
Speaker 2: back from Oklahoma City to not watch Shake Gildess Alexander
Speaker 2: play basketball. But they do get to win, and they
Speaker 2: currently lead number three Wisconsin, who blew out number fourteen
Speaker 2: Montana eighty five sixty six. BAU does lead the Badgers
Speaker 2: by eleven and a half, so we'll see where that
Speaker 2: ends up. But Theau Wisconsin two teams that can score
Speaker 2: a lot of points, and either one I think will
Speaker 2: upset Number two Alabama, who needed all forty minutes to
Speaker 2: get by Robert Morris. They trailed briefly in the second half.
Speaker 2: Weirdly close game for the Crimson Tide. Ryan, do you
Speaker 2: still believe in this team? Do they have a real
Speaker 2: natty hope?
Speaker 1: I have them losing to BYU in the Sweet sixteen,
Speaker 1: because I don't.
Speaker 3: Think they can natty lot.
Speaker 1: I don't think they can defend anybody. And yeah, it
Speaker 1: was proof of this.
Speaker 2: They can't defend Robert Morris.
Speaker 1: Right, and yeah this was and this was one of
Speaker 1: those games that truly was very close for a while.
Speaker 1: Alabama trailed with six minutes left the game. I want
Speaker 1: to talk about here in this bottom right is Saint
Speaker 1: Mary's Vanderbilt, because Saint Mary's had a nice comeback. They
Speaker 1: ultimately got it done. Vanderbilt blew a twelve point lead.
Speaker 1: But don't be fooled because the bottom half of the
Speaker 1: SEC really shouldn't have been in the tournament as much
Speaker 1: as they were. Saint Mary's blows every year. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pick a team to just dunk on in each corner
Speaker 1: of this bracket.
Speaker 3: And I guess in this one it ever gone wrong.
Speaker 1: It's Saint Mary's sucks. Like it just really irritates me
Speaker 1: that they exist as a program. I just don't care.
Speaker 1: Like they have never had a single win of importance
Speaker 1: in their lives. Can you think of if I listed
Speaker 1: all these other teams, Baylor, Ore, Agon, b Yu, we
Speaker 1: think of colossal wins they've had what name one game
Speaker 1: that Saint Mary's won that made you go, wow, that
Speaker 1: was impressive. There isn't one.
Speaker 3: I'm honestly probably like a religious crusade from the fifth
Speaker 3: century after ad No.
Speaker 1: Their biggest win ever is Landon shouting oh me into
Speaker 1: the microphone.
Speaker 3: That was I didn't remember that was Landon. That said
Speaker 3: that that.
Speaker 1: Is Land because we didn't know anything to talk about
Speaker 1: regarding Saint Mary's so we were like, I guess land
Speaker 1: and can say something funny about this, so awesome. Just
Speaker 1: kids dog walked by Gonzaga every year and now they're
Speaker 1: better than Gonzaga record wise, but we all know that
Speaker 1: they're not actually better than Gonzaga. Yeah, they get twenty
Speaker 1: seven meaningless wins every year and then lose to a
Speaker 1: double digit seed. This year they almost lost to a
Speaker 1: double digit seed, and they will get baptized by nat Oates.
Speaker 3: I will so.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, Alabama struggles against teams that can score. Saint
Speaker 1: Mary's doesn't score.
Speaker 2: But Palldama does help teams score a lot.
Speaker 1: They do, they do, but it doesn't matter. Saint Mary's
Speaker 1: will not keep that close and if they do well,
Speaker 1: there's a reason we're pretending Round two hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 1: Land and Cam tell me all about the Midwest region.
Speaker 1: This is all yours.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to scroll for a second. I had
Speaker 3: a mini panic attack.
Speaker 1: Strolled down to the genuine rolling in the bracket.
Speaker 3: During this podcast, half the time I forget we're on
Speaker 3: a podcast, and I'm like, I'm stalking to my buddies. Number
Speaker 3: one Houston obliterated Southern Illinois University Edwardsville. I don't know
Speaker 3: if that's correct. We're doing the first round right, yes,
Speaker 3: good to know. Yep, good, yep. We're not into round
Speaker 3: two when we're recording. Number eight Zaga played like the
Speaker 3: team they were supposed to be all year. They beat
Speaker 3: Georgia eighty nine to sixty eight. Sixty eight is higher
Speaker 3: than most Georgians can count. Hard to bring it to
Speaker 3: them that they lost for that much, but they did.
Speaker 3: Number five Clemson, he was twenty seven to three. By
Speaker 3: the way, twenty seven to three. I paid attention to it.
Speaker 3: Just remember they could have won if Mike Pence still
Speaker 3: had the courage to do what was right. Number five
Speaker 3: Clemson sixty seven. Number twelve McNees sixty nine. Nice in
Speaker 3: a game that will Wade showed up to sweating profusely
Speaker 3: about an FBI wiretap. The McNees appears to be a
Speaker 3: man on a horse. I don't know what their mascot is.
Speaker 3: Won by two points.
Speaker 1: There you go, clembs in thirteen first half points in
Speaker 1: this game. If Louisville losing in the first round wasn't
Speaker 1: an indication it was going to be a bad day
Speaker 1: for the acc Then Clemson in a game that Cam
Speaker 1: bet the over and it missed by half a point. Ye,
Speaker 1: Clemson had called time and he was right, Well, I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: just keep going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Uh. Number six seed Illinois eighty six,
Speaker 3: sweaty Sean Miller sweating through three shirts, wearing degree anti
Speaker 3: Persepriant seventy three.
Speaker 1: I think can't skipped over Perdue. Did you talk about
Speaker 1: the high point? Hey, yeah, that's fine. They don't beat
Speaker 1: a point. Everybody's upset. Darling, Illinois looked impressive. I think
Speaker 1: Illinois is gonna beat Kentucky, who beat Troy as Camp
Speaker 1: will tell you in a game. Land And texted me
Speaker 1: it was it's kind of close. And then I looked
Speaker 1: up from six to twenty like in a blur. I
Speaker 1: think ILLINOI is gonna beat Kentucky. They're more experienced.
Speaker 2: I kind of agree, Illi Kentucky.
Speaker 3: You don't think so their favorite I do, Okay.
Speaker 1: Illinois will be Kentucky getting healthy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are very volatile team though. Yeah, Kentucky seventy
Speaker 3: six Troy fifty seven. Landed during the middle of this game, texted, Wow,
Speaker 3: Kentucky really cannot pull away from Troy. And then I
Speaker 3: put my phone down, came.
Speaker 1: Back to him and say that one. Ryan said that.
Speaker 1: I said it's I said, Kentucky can't quite shake them,
Speaker 1: and oh, yeah, this is gonna be a close game,
Speaker 1: I think, and then it was not.
Speaker 3: I'm so glad. I group chap for betting advice Ryan.
Speaker 2: Ryan does this thing where he expertly frames everything that
Speaker 2: ever is said as not being said by him.
Speaker 3: First's like that, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have the most experience. That's right, except for whenever
Speaker 1: it comes to predicting teams that absolutely positively will never
Speaker 1: give Kansas a challenge in the tournament, and then they
Speaker 1: usually later that year and only after I tweet mean
Speaker 1: things about that team.
Speaker 3: Your apology arts are wild. They are. Yeah, yeah, they
Speaker 3: really are.
Speaker 1: One.
Speaker 3: Speaking of apology arcs, I should apologize to Mick Cronin
Speaker 3: for making fun of his hiat Utah State seventy two
Speaker 3: to forty seven, they were about to lock in against
Speaker 3: Tennessee and Rick Barnes, I'm gonna go out on a
Speaker 3: limb and say Tennessee covers maybe allegedly bet on that,
Speaker 3: and then number two Tennessee beat Wafford by fifteen points
Speaker 3: seventy seven to sixty two. Guys, how do we feel
Speaker 3: about Rick Barnes in March?
Speaker 1: I think Rick barb is, I think he Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that he's got a pretty good chance to win
Speaker 1: a couple more games here though. Also, of all sixty
Speaker 1: four teams that played relative to their expectations, was Utah
Speaker 1: State the most disappointing because that game was supposed to
Speaker 1: be close and they just flat out they just laid
Speaker 1: down and died to a very mass UCLA team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely up there there. There's always a game
Speaker 2: like that, I feel, where they're supposed to be a
Speaker 2: really good.
Speaker 1: Game, and somewhere half the years it involves Vanderbilt and
Speaker 1: or TCU. This year it was Yutah State.
Speaker 3: Get old Jamie.
Speaker 1: Dixon in the West Region, number one Florida smashed Norfolk.
Speaker 1: There was norfolking way that they were gonna do what
Speaker 1: they did to Missouri? Am I right?
Speaker 2: Boom?
Speaker 1: Okay, well you know what, I'll still give myself a
Speaker 1: drum fill. And then Yukon. As guys, sports betting's hard,
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying you should ever wager your house,
Speaker 1: your spouse or anything that should you know worth out.
Speaker 1: But whenever Yukon plays Oklahoma in the NCAA tournament, and
Speaker 1: last I checked, that means Dan Hurley against Porter Moser,
Speaker 1: who does look snazzy in his suits, I will say
Speaker 1: I appreciate how he still rocks the black suit with
Speaker 1: the maroon tie. If only it was a better basketball
Speaker 1: coach that used that. Because Oklahoma, who the committee looked
Speaker 1: at and said, six out of eighteen wins in conference play,
Speaker 1: let's give him a single digit seed SEC. For some
Speaker 1: reason they thought that was a good idea. Oklahoma should
Speaker 1: have never been in the tournament. And then they lose
Speaker 1: to Yukon in a game that people will say, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, they only lost by eight, it did it
Speaker 1: really won that close? Oklahoma was never gonna win this game.
Speaker 1: They never were in it, like they even had a
Speaker 1: lead with eight minutes left, and I was like, huh, okay,
Speaker 1: they're not in the game. We all knew what was
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Dan Hurley's now won thirteen straight NCAA Tournament games,
Speaker 1: and his next one he'll have to take down the
Speaker 1: number one seed in the region. But Yukon guys ucon
Speaker 1: money line against Oklahoma, and you're telling me you don't
Speaker 1: like money. That's the only way you wouldn't have bet
Speaker 1: on this game? Am I right?
Speaker 2: From my point of view, yes, I E I don't
Speaker 2: think about it. They did.
Speaker 1: They did the committee get it wrong with the SEC
Speaker 1: because like we'll talk about we already talked about Texas
Speaker 1: losing and Oklahoma Vanderbilt, Mississippi State. There's another one that
Speaker 1: I'm I'm missing all these all these lousy secs, Georgia.
Speaker 3: Issues that you can't say they got it wrong off
Speaker 3: a single elimination tournament.
Speaker 1: But the that's the argument is that these teams were
Speaker 1: never that good. They were just no having better quote,
Speaker 1: they were having better laws. But it's like.
Speaker 3: It's the same thing as when the Big twelve had,
Speaker 3: like Baylor is a four seed and they lose to
Speaker 3: like Georgia, State and Kansas loses to witch Daw State
Speaker 3: in the second round, Like, it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: We can't But the difference in that is when Baylor
Speaker 1: loses to to whoever. Baylor as like a twenty four
Speaker 1: and eight team, Vanderbilt was like like eighteen and fourteen,
Speaker 1: Oklahoma level six and twelve and sec.
Speaker 3: Take.
Speaker 1: Like, my argument is that just because you lose to
Speaker 1: good teams, Like yeah, but they look at who they
Speaker 1: scheduled in the non conference, like they just they I
Speaker 1: don't know, I if you win six out of eighteen
Speaker 1: league games, I don't care what league you playing. I
Speaker 1: don't need you in the tournament. I think you should
Speaker 1: have to be five hundred in conference play to even
Speaker 1: be just because like, sure, if you played this again
Speaker 1: with these SE's teams do better. Yeah, maybe a little bit.
Speaker 1: But like I just think the argument is they were
Speaker 1: never really that good and their metrics were being propped
Speaker 1: up because they were losing to good teams. They still
Speaker 1: would have lost to not so great teams like in
Speaker 1: Texas's case, Xavier and in Oklahoma's case a meh Yukon team. Right,
Speaker 1: Like those those mesically aren't as sexy of losses, but
Speaker 1: there's still losses. I don't know. I just don't need
Speaker 1: to see all these SEC teams take l's every single round.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 2: I also agree with that I don't need to see it.
Speaker 2: But I don't think that that means the committee inherently
Speaker 2: got it wrong.
Speaker 3: I just don't.
Speaker 1: I just don't think that. I think that they overestimated
Speaker 1: the SEC. It was always top heavy. Florida and Auburn
Speaker 1: are juggernauts. Alabama's been sexiest hell at times this year.
Speaker 1: A and M is pretty good. Missouri, I know they lost,
Speaker 1: but Missouri had a nice year in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: They got better wins than most of these other teams. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just don't need all the nine
Speaker 1: tens and eleven's to be SEC teams. And then they
Speaker 1: don't do anything, and we're a surprise. I don't know,
Speaker 1: a team that we really shouldn't expect to ever do anything.
Speaker 1: Number five Memphis. They get pants by twelve seed Colorado State,
Speaker 1: and then they will move on and play four seed Maryland,
Speaker 1: who just destroyed Grand Canyon. Tyon Grant Foster, older than
Speaker 1: Zion Williamson, by the way, didn't play very well Grand Canyon.
Speaker 1: If there's anybody that could challenge UTAs State as a
Speaker 1: big disappointment in the first round, it's Grand Canyon's explosive offense,
Speaker 1: not even getting the fifty points. Maryland's really good. I
Speaker 1: guess the ACC could really use them. Still being repped there,
Speaker 1: the Big ten had a nasty first couple rounds. Are
Speaker 1: they still undefeated? As a recorder is? I know Wisconsin
Speaker 1: is in a dog fight, but as of right now
Speaker 1: current at eight thirty on yeah, they're really good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think nine.
Speaker 1: Colorado State is the best Mountain West team in the
Speaker 1: second half of the season, and the Mountain West typically
Speaker 1: not very good in the NCAA tournament. Do we give
Speaker 1: them much of a chance to beat Maryland? They are
Speaker 1: an eight point underdog.
Speaker 2: No, I think they'll hold them closer in Grand Canyon,
Speaker 2: But I also think Maryland's really, really good.
Speaker 1: Missouri was a disappointment. They lost to Drake in the
Speaker 1: game that was the most picked upset of the first round.
Speaker 1: The question going in was whose style would decide the pace,
Speaker 1: and it was Drake's. Drake pulled Missouri into the mud
Speaker 1: and save for a couple of uh save for a
Speaker 1: couple of runs, Missouri really couldn't get anything going at all.
Speaker 1: A high scoring offense was held his fifty seven points.
Speaker 1: Drake moves on to play Texas Tech and then the
Speaker 1: Red Raiders have already won that game to go to
Speaker 1: the Sweet sixteen. They handled you and C. Wilmington, who
Speaker 1: was feisty, and then they end up beating Drake in
Speaker 1: the round of thirty two. Texas Tech is the Big
Speaker 1: twelve second best team, and with the way their bracket
Speaker 1: has opened up a little bit, I think they're the
Speaker 1: favorite to reach the Elite eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I would agree with that. I I my one
Speaker 2: good pick, perhaps of this entire bracket was Texas Tech
Speaker 2: to the Elite eight.
Speaker 3: I love Grandma castle On.
Speaker 1: Yeah, his his style is just absolutely And as for Drake,
Speaker 1: I got the Missouri game wrong because I thought this
Speaker 1: style would win. Drake has had an amazing season. Like
Speaker 1: they lose today, they won thirty two basketball games. Get
Speaker 1: a good look at their head coaches. He's not going
Speaker 1: to be coaching there very much longer. He is going
Speaker 1: to get a better job here very soon, as early
Speaker 1: as he wants it. U and they they pop Missouri
Speaker 1: like a really rough hour for the locals there on
Speaker 1: Thursday night with Kansas and Missouri going down, and then
Speaker 1: I saw a Kansas State fan after the k State
Speaker 1: women one in their opening in tournament games, say hey,
Speaker 1: k State has a basketball team that going further in
Speaker 1: the tournament than I did. I saw you, and you
Speaker 1: were nicer than what a lot of people I knew
Speaker 1: whenever I retweeted that that it would it would nuke the.
Speaker 3: Some people would have wanted to I wanted to say
Speaker 3: something a lot worse.
Speaker 1: But yeah, which good for you. The first step is
Speaker 1: is that's that's why we have a job. Then we
Speaker 1: obviously the seven to ten in the bottom left is Kansas.
Speaker 1: We talked about that and Saint John's who baptizes Omaha
Speaker 1: and then loses to who else but John Caliperry John Calipari.
Speaker 1: For our guys, Arkansas is going to the sweet sixteen.
Speaker 1: They control the second half and take down Saint John's.
Speaker 1: The Johnny's are the first top four seed to lose
Speaker 1: in the first in the Sincia Tournament as a whole.
Speaker 1: Is it fair to say that Arkansas just is figuring
Speaker 1: things out as at the right time of the year,
Speaker 1: or did they just get a little bit in CAA
Speaker 1: luck and uh and and that's.
Speaker 3: That it's both.
Speaker 1: I think it is both.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: Rapid fire, machine gun style through these games that has
Speaker 1: not happened. Uh we Auburn has already been Creighton and
Speaker 1: Michigan bt A and M. That matchup is set. Who
Speaker 1: wins Old miss and Iowa State?
Speaker 3: Iowa State Iowa State agreed?
Speaker 1: Number ten New Mexico versus number two Michigan State. I
Speaker 1: will take the Spartans, but boy, would that be unsurprising.
Speaker 2: I will also go Spartans, but I also think.
Speaker 3: It would be very unsurprising Spartans pull away late.
Speaker 1: Number one do first is numb nine Baylor. The Blue
Speaker 1: Devils are a thirteen point favorite. I will take Baylor
Speaker 1: to cover, but Duke to win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, closer, but Duke wins.
Speaker 3: I think Duke wins by like fifteen.
Speaker 1: Number five Oregon versus number four Arizona. Zona is a
Speaker 1: four point favorite. I am very hesitant to trust Caleb Love,
Speaker 1: but I think that they are the noticeably better basketball
Speaker 1: team than Oregon, and I will pick them to win.
Speaker 2: They are playing really well. It's hard to ignore Oregon
Speaker 2: over Liberty there as well, but I guess I will
Speaker 2: go Zona in a good game. I think it's gonna
Speaker 2: be very close Pack twelve rematch.
Speaker 3: I'm shockingly confident this it's gonna be Zona.
Speaker 1: Number six BYU, currently beating Wisconsin by eleven and a
Speaker 1: half time. But I had that in my bracket originally.
Speaker 1: Love BYU's team. I think they make the Elite eight.
Speaker 2: I also had BYU originally I will continue to take them.
Speaker 3: I allegedly back currency on this. Give me BYU.
Speaker 1: And then number seven Saint Mary's against number two Alabama.
Speaker 1: Bama just a five point favorite to me. I don't
Speaker 1: bet on sports, but I would, to quote some camo,
Speaker 1: I would wail bomb Alabama nuclear shamboos, submarine bomb. I
Speaker 1: think they just absolutely whitewashed Saint Mary's in this game.
Speaker 2: I don't think they can defend well enough to do
Speaker 2: so they will win, though I agree.
Speaker 3: I think they win by like thirteen to fifteen points.
Speaker 1: Number one Houston taking on number eight Gonzaga and the
Speaker 1: toughest match up any of the ones get. They are
Speaker 1: currently beating Gonzaga and their defense is winning out. I
Speaker 1: would have picked them to win, but Gonzaga is not
Speaker 1: a team that you want to play in the second round.
Speaker 2: Definitely, so I will remain with Houston here, yep, I agree,
Speaker 2: And then we already know Perdue beat McNeice, and so
Speaker 2: that just leaves on the bottom half here.
Speaker 1: I will continue, just like in my bracket, to say
Speaker 1: number six Illinois beats number three Kentucky. I'm a little
Speaker 1: surprised their favorite, but I think they are the right call. Landon,
Speaker 1: You're a little turned off by teams that can't defend
Speaker 1: at all. That would be Kentucky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in Illinois, like you said, they're getting healthier and
Speaker 2: they can fill it up themselves. I think they, Lion,
Speaker 2: I get them.
Speaker 3: I hate doing this, but I think you guys are
Speaker 3: both right. I think so.
Speaker 1: I so badly want to see John Kelli Perry go
Speaker 1: further in the tournament than Kentucky. So I'm ruind number
Speaker 1: seven UCLA have any shot against number two Tennessee. This
Speaker 1: is another one where Tennessee is just a five point favorite.
Speaker 1: I would I would pound the two seed if I
Speaker 1: had to bet money in this.
Speaker 2: Case, I say this I think is the baptizing. I
Speaker 2: think this is Tennessee.
Speaker 3: By a lot. Yeah, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: And then in the bottom left, I'm gonna save the
Speaker 1: one seed game, which there's only one more because we
Speaker 1: know it's Texas Tech in Arkansas, both winners today at
Speaker 1: number twelve, Colorado State against Maryland. We all picked the
Speaker 1: Turps and that leaves this number one Florida a nine
Speaker 1: point favorite against number eight Yukon, who has won thirteen
Speaker 1: straight NCAA tournament games.
Speaker 3: It's dude, it's inn or No, it's Florida. Sorry, it's Florida.
Speaker 2: By Florida is so good.
Speaker 1: So this is one of those matchups where Yukon has
Speaker 1: the experience. Their coach has been there, Florida's has not.
Speaker 1: Todd Golden hasn't been.
Speaker 3: I don't think it matters, and I know I do.
Speaker 1: I know his team's really good, but I think this
Speaker 1: comes down. I think this comes down to the last shot,
Speaker 1: and I will take Florida because I agree they are
Speaker 1: much better. But I would not be surprised at all
Speaker 1: of Yukon finds ways. All they do is win in
Speaker 1: March like I would not be stunned at all.
Speaker 2: All stretches, all all runs and for March Madness runs,
Speaker 2: they all die eventually, and this is where Yukon's does.
Speaker 2: Florida not a blow up right stretch, but Florida does win,
Speaker 2: Florida wins battle like.
Speaker 1: Eight, there's our pick, there's our picks, and now here's
Speaker 1: a few questions. Maybe so I asked for ascarcbs at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the show or at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the day, and it was gonna come down to time,
Speaker 1: and we only have eight. So I guess we'll go
Speaker 1: ahead and answer all of them and that'll be the
Speaker 1: end of the show. Here we go at k e
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and read all the questions, and
Speaker 1: there may only be one. I haven't read these yet.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna gohead read all the questions about who's coming
Speaker 1: back at kate Eiden fourteen. Does aj Store return? You
Speaker 1: could argue he was the best player against us in Arkansas.
Speaker 1: Let's see here. Actually that is pretty much the only
Speaker 1: thing about that. I'm surprised. No, I'd be stunned if
Speaker 1: Store comes back. I wouldn't I wouldn't hate it. I
Speaker 1: think I'd rather have Griffin if I could only have
Speaker 1: one of them. But I do not believe we're gonna
Speaker 1: see a J Store wearing Cana jersey again.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 1: I fully agree, no chance at Berner Gooff eight thousand
Speaker 1: and two, says, this has been a crappy season, but
Speaker 1: a great season of inside the Paint. Do you have
Speaker 1: any favorite mom episodes from this season? Thanks?
Speaker 3: Arizona preview.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Arizona State preview was explosive.
Speaker 3: It was like back Jeffrey Dahmer, good Lord.
Speaker 1: That's yes, it's been so a little behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: Look here, Cam had never spoken a word in person
Speaker 1: on the phone at all with Landon and I, who
Speaker 1: have been land and I have been friends for a while. Uh,
Speaker 1: and obviously I've been a yes, and I've done this
Speaker 1: show for a long time. We knew each other before
Speaker 1: we did the show. Cam and I always credit this,
Speaker 1: and I feel like that Cam's a pretty humble guy.
Speaker 1: So I really, Cam, I wanted to resonate with you,
Speaker 1: how insane I think it is that you just seamlessly
Speaker 1: on the first time we all three talked together was
Speaker 1: the first episode we recorded this year. Just true, like
Speaker 1: so many people would be so hesitant to start throwing
Speaker 1: in barbs and jokes at your co host expense because
Speaker 1: you don't know, and your fearlessness is just it's impressive.
Speaker 1: It's been a seamless fit. So Cam's been the real MVP.
Speaker 1: This year, Landon's been the m when it comes to attendance,
Speaker 1: and Cam has made it all. Yeah, that's why, by
Speaker 1: the way, all that Cam. A'll let Cam go in
Speaker 1: a second. But and and that's been why Landon's attendance
Speaker 1: has been so good because he has more fun doing
Speaker 1: this with Cam than anybody else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nick, you suck.
Speaker 3: With all the nice things be said. Guys. I I
Speaker 3: will enter my name into the transfer portal. If Barstool
Speaker 3: Sports wants to give me a bag, I will happily
Speaker 3: hop on Barstool Sports. Anybody else can go blank themselves.
Speaker 3: Not loyal man. Also, Cameron Brink on my TV, I
Speaker 3: might go run through my TV really quick. I can't.
Speaker 2: I saw a Cameron bring new Balance ad a minute ago,
Speaker 2: and I I was a little than I was pre.
Speaker 3: Balances have to change her name if she married you, Cam,
Speaker 3: Cam and Cam would be crazy.
Speaker 1: That was that may be, guys, you may have just
Speaker 1: heard the absolute stupidest thing that's ever been said on
Speaker 1: this show. Right now, you said I said, I said,
Speaker 1: If I said, if Cameron Brink Mary's Cam Lipple, Cameron
Speaker 1: Brink would not have to change her name.
Speaker 3: I'm happily committed to Emily Emily h Cam.
Speaker 1: I'm being told that you have a transfer portal update,
Speaker 1: you're have an offer from not the experts.
Speaker 3: I would like to shoot myself in the forehead. Oh sorry, guys,
Speaker 3: I'll take your call in five minutes.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say all say on that one. That's that's
Speaker 1: you know what I've been. I've been dragged enough this year.
Speaker 1: I get one in at Shelmy Hawk. Did you see
Speaker 1: the AT and T commercial with the bootleg college sports
Speaker 1: merch guy and it's hell Kansas ka and z A Z. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Kansas has been a couple Allen Fieldhouse ads this year too.
Speaker 3: The ads.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the ads with this question. They mostly sucked.
Speaker 1: I don't need to see the perk piggy wee wee
Speaker 1: wee all the way home anymore.
Speaker 2: That's so.
Speaker 1: But there was one. There's one really good one. It's
Speaker 1: a capital one comer. So where there's James Nasmith in
Speaker 1: venting basketball. Have you seen this with the peach back.
Speaker 3: I just saw that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one is so good. Legitimately a plus commercial,
Speaker 1: and that's hard to come by.
Speaker 2: All advertising because it is one of the horsemen of
Speaker 2: late stage capitalism.
Speaker 1: Wow, at us at at Audust underscore, Luke, if kJ
Speaker 1: Adams does not tear his achilles, does the team make
Speaker 1: a sweet sixteen run?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: You think they still lose.
Speaker 2: They're not good enough to beat good teams, guys, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: And if they had played, if they had played Saint John's,
Speaker 1: kJ would have been a pivotal piece to miss because
Speaker 1: that game would have come down to scrappiness. Louse balls
Speaker 1: fifty fifty balls and Kj's there their alpha with Yeah. Also,
Speaker 1: Luke asks, what are the odds Flory stays? I would
Speaker 1: be stunned if Florri Badunga leaves. I know that a
Speaker 1: lot of people believe. Yes, I think he's going to stay.
Speaker 1: He is the This is not a earnest two day
Speaker 1: situation where it's hmm, we might be on the lookout
Speaker 1: of someone else that's better is out there. Do you
Speaker 1: still want to say Florida Badunga is the locked in
Speaker 1: with a padlock starting five for Kansas next year? Bill
Speaker 1: self will do everything he needs to do to get
Speaker 1: him to stay, and I believe he will. He can
Speaker 1: also make an il.
Speaker 3: Money correct yep.
Speaker 1: At show me Hawk. We all think Darren Peterson is
Speaker 1: going to be really good. But if we learned anything
Speaker 1: this year, leadership wins games. He needs to be a leader.
Speaker 1: We're gonna need Darren Peterson to elevate our team. I
Speaker 1: agree with that, and everything coming out of the reports
Speaker 1: is that Darren Peterson is an alpha dog. Also Jamari McDowell,
Speaker 1: while not being a big name, true, Yeah, this coaching
Speaker 1: staff has done nothing but talk about how he is
Speaker 1: the loudest vocal leader on that team.
Speaker 3: I do too.
Speaker 1: And he guys like him and el Marco Jackson as
Speaker 1: much do we not be We might be crazy Tomco Yes,
Speaker 1: pass more. Those are the guys that they need to keep.
Speaker 1: We need to see those press. You're not gonna have
Speaker 1: the DeVante Grahams, the four year guys anymore. That are
Speaker 1: all ones, But you gotta have these guys.
Speaker 3: You guys just convinced me to pick Kansas money line
Speaker 3: every game next year.
Speaker 1: And and that's why this drop exists.
Speaker 3: Playing and simple, that's why hardboard box shoe.
Speaker 1: Me Hawk lists uh nine different games that Kansas could
Speaker 1: have won if they were even slightly more clutch, basically
Speaker 1: all of them besides Creighton Missouri and uh then there's
Speaker 1: a couple of them missing in there by you probably,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, that's that's the story of this team. They
Speaker 1: could not close out games and most of their losses
Speaker 1: were close. It sucks.
Speaker 3: If my aunt had a cucumber, she'd be.
Speaker 1: My uncle and then Joe me Hawk also points out
Speaker 1: that the twenty nineteen Midwest Regional in Kansas City, looking
Speaker 1: back on it, you had North Carolina and Kentucky. You
Speaker 1: had Auburn, who is an up and coming SEC power,
Speaker 1: and a current Big twelve member in Houston. That's a
Speaker 1: loaded regionally back on did you so, Cam, have you
Speaker 1: heard the store? Have you heard Nick's story from the
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen Midwest Regional?
Speaker 3: I don't think so so, Nick.
Speaker 1: When Kansas is announced as the four seed in twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen and they get drawn in the Kansas City region,
Speaker 1: Nick buys tickets at the T Mobile Center, all stoked
Speaker 1: to watch Kansas play North Carolina. All they gotta do
Speaker 1: is beat Auburn, and they're gonna play North Carolina at
Speaker 1: the Sprint Center. Well, they did not beat Auburn, we
Speaker 1: obviously know, Yeah, so Cam, alright, So Nick goes to
Speaker 1: the Sprint Center and watches three very good basketball games.
Speaker 1: North Carolina lost to Auburn. Houston lost to Kentucky and
Speaker 1: then Auburn beat Kentucky in a thrilling Elite eight game,
Speaker 1: and Nick just said it didn't matter because it felt
Speaker 1: like a waste.
Speaker 3: Aw man, you know what. I kind of get it though,
Speaker 3: because ironically, in two thousand and six, when Kansas lost
Speaker 3: as a what's the I can't remember what seed they were,
Speaker 3: they lost Bradley in the first round. Four yeah, four seed, yep,
Speaker 3: and we had tickets to the next round. We just
Speaker 3: sold them and didn't come back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what I was want to But I
Speaker 1: think Nick said the problem was nobody wanted to buy
Speaker 1: the tickets because Kansas was gone and like the arena
Speaker 1: was half empty. I think that was that was part
Speaker 1: of it. But hey, Kansas City Region's coming back, all right?
Speaker 1: You ever have asked garcybs use a Twitter ash tag
Speaker 1: ask garcyby. So this is the point in the show
Speaker 1: where we don't have a game to preview unless you
Speaker 1: want a preview late night in the fog, want to
Speaker 1: get in on that.
Speaker 2: Darren Peterson to some really hype song and scored forty
Speaker 2: five points against Dylan will Heights's.
Speaker 1: Cousin Bill self starts l Marco Jackson at the point
Speaker 1: guard and Darren Peterson coming off the bench unless he
Speaker 1: shows that hustle and at heart.
Speaker 3: On DJ booth.
Speaker 1: If Bill Cel brings Darren Peterson off the bench, we
Speaker 1: have to fire Bamba's house.
Speaker 3: Like it's all I think we all swallow cyanide pills.
Speaker 2: Okay, suicide packed.
Speaker 3: For if you guys thought Jonestown was bad, just waiting
Speaker 3: to see Lawrence when uh freaking Darren Peterson comes off
Speaker 3: the bench bench for Jackson, Well.
Speaker 1: Well, well I thought that El Marco and David quit.
Speaker 1: Could they competed the best? They're going to start? Uh?
Speaker 3: They started?
Speaker 2: Peterson play the same minutes a game.
Speaker 3: I just know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I will not happen. Darren will not come off the bench,
Speaker 1: and if he does, if he does.
Speaker 2: Quit, Cameron bring new balance out. It's back.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm zimpic, So it's every bit as good in
Speaker 1: my book.
Speaker 3: I just have nothing to say to that.
Speaker 1: We will be back in the middle to the end
Speaker 1: of this upcoming week to talk about the second round,
Speaker 1: a preview the second weekend, and hopefully we'll have some
Speaker 1: Kansas news, maybe some portal news, maybe some news about
Speaker 1: guys like kJ. Maybe some news about guys like self.
Speaker 1: What they're gonna do well at the very least keep
Speaker 1: you entertained and land.
Speaker 3: And kJ Adams creates a LinkedIn profile.
Speaker 1: Hey, he didn't need it until now, and now he does.
Speaker 1: Landon you had said that you were going to hit
Speaker 1: the interwebs and come up with another exercise for us,
Speaker 1: like our draft one that was fun. We're gonna need
Speaker 1: them normally he go deeper into the tournament with shows.
Speaker 1: But we're definitely going to need We're definitely gonna need it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's do another draft. I'll come up with
Speaker 2: a topic and they'll be fun.
Speaker 3: There was a there was a fan of the show
Speaker 3: on Twitter that I can't remember his name, but he
Speaker 3: said that we should start YouTube. And I read that tweet.
Speaker 3: I closed my phone app and I threw my phone
Speaker 3: as far as I could.
Speaker 2: Why just because you don't you don't want to be
Speaker 2: on YouTube.
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody wants me on YouTube. I I
Speaker 3: don't think it's a bad take. I think it was
Speaker 3: a good idea. But if you put me on YouTube
Speaker 3: with the things that I say on this podcast and
Speaker 3: we can't edit it, perfectly, guys, we're all going to prison.
Speaker 1: Correct, Well, Cam.
Speaker 3: Am fine, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Probably I'm going I'm I'm on trial. Cam is already
Speaker 1: locked up. Probably fine.
Speaker 3: I was just following orders. And that was used in
Speaker 3: historical context as well.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no no no guy. Season loss
Speaker 1: episode I'm Ryan lanzerth.
Speaker 2: On Landing Fields. That was a little more I feel
Speaker 2: like we were a little more put together today than
Speaker 2: normal for the season loss.
Speaker 3: Whatever stage of grief, I'm Bill self degenerate cousin, I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll be back soon. Next show is
Speaker 1: show five hundred. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: I like how you thought that there'd be a season
Speaker 3: I need loss at five hundred and we're like, hey,
Speaker 3: guess what it came early Kansas blows.
Speaker 1: Kid, get your nipples hard. It's show five hundred. Guys,
Speaker 1: we'll do something.
Speaker 3: Pierce your nipples and show up with a smile.
Speaker 1: Pierce nipples, yes or no.
Speaker 3: Allegedly, I can't say anything right now.
Speaker 1: No, somebody say bye before it. Cam actually does go
Speaker 1: to jail.
Speaker 3: Me oh man,