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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Political Beatdown with Michael Cohen and Ben Mycellas.

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The Beatdown Brigade is here and here's what we got

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for you today. Let's talk updates on the Manhattan District

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Attorney's criminal investigation into Donald Trump. Michael Cohen, of course,

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is a key witness in that case. Michael Cohen has

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some exclusive breaking news for us in just a bit.

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In some other news, Donald Trump was caught with another

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folder that had a classified marking on it, one that

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he was apparently sleeping with, and that his new lawyer

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claims was being used by Trump to shield the light

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on the telephone next to his bed. You can't make

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this stuff up, Cohen. Some other breaking news as we

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were about to go live, Former Vice President Pence has

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expressed his intention to object to the sip he received

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from Special Counsel Jack Smith on the grounds of the

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Speech and Debate clause, which usually protects members of the

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House of Representatives and the Senate. But now Pens is saying,

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I actually wasn't acting as a vice president. I was

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acting as the President of the Senate, so please please

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don't subpoena me. In other news, Steve Bannon apparently is

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not paying his legal fees and the Fulton County Superior

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Court Judge, Judge McBurney is set to release three portions

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of the special grand Jury report on election interference this

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week on February sixteenth. This and more on the political Beatdown, Cohen,

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a lot of news to.

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Speaker 2: The already, there's so much, Ben, it's you know, first

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of all, again, it's always great to have our political

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Beatdown Brigade with us as we sit and raw, unfiltered,

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not your thirteen you know, your thirteen minute or your

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twelve minute or eight minute news reporting on whatever the

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topic is. We tried to get into depth because this

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stuff is not simple. This is not easy stuff where

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you just simply have a two second conversation, generally by

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people who have no requisite knowledge other than the fact

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that they are in the field. Okay, not every lawyer

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should be talking about the district attorney. Not every lawyer

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should be commenting on this guy. Oh it's his name,

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Timothy Parlatory, the new attorney for Donald Trump that Joe

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from Morning Joe Joe Scarborough called a schlub. I mean

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that's what he looks like. He looks like a shlub.

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And Joe wanted to know where does Donald find these people?

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Where's this new crop of fools coming from? With the

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most bizarre, outlandish response to the question of why Donald had,

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for example, those empty folders in his office. Anyway, So

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we'll get to that and more. Ben, always good to

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see you. Good to of our brigade with us. Where

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do we start?

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Speaker 1: Well, before you give the brigade the breaking news story

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regarding the Manhattan District Attorney's criminal investigation, We're going to

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have to just tease that slightly. I want to play

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that video though with Parlatry, and I want to get

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your reaction to it. It's just so astonishingly stupid that

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I know we need a Cohen reaction to it. So

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this is Trump's lawyer trying to explain why there was

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a folder with a classified marking in Donald Trump's bedroom

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that the Department of Justice had to subpoena to get

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back here. Let's play this clip.

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Speaker 2: Now, you also turned over an empty folder marked classified

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to investigators.

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Speaker 3: Where was this folder and why was it turned over?

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The folder is kind of one of the more humorous

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aspects of this whole thing. This is not a classified folder.

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This is a folder that when my team went through

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and searched and they wrote up their report, which we

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turned over to DOJ. They saw it's a folder, Manila

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folder that says classified Evening Summary on it, and it

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was in the president's bedroom. He has one of those

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landline telephones next to his bed and has a blue

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light on it, and he keeps him up at night,

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so he took the Minila folder and put it over

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it so it would keep the light down so he

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could sleep at night. And it's just this folder. It

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says classified Evening Brief Evening Summary on it. It is not

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a classification marking. It's not anything that is controlled in

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any way. There's nothing illegal about it. There's nothing in it.

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And when DJ found that about it, they went crazy

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and they said they actually gave me a sapenat to say,

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give us over this empty folder that means nothing.

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Speaker 2: How did they find out about a folder on his bedtable.

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Speaker 3: We put it in our report. When we did all

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of our searches, we wrote up reports on everywhere we searched,

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everywhere we looked, anything we found where we found it,

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and we gave that to them because everything that we've

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done as part of that search has been in the

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spirit of full cooperation and compliance. And when they read

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that and they saw, oh, there's this folder here that

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is so far outside of the scope of the paint

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or anything else, they demanded it back. And so now

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the president has to find a different way to keep

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the blue light out of his life. I'm sure he

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has other options.

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Speaker 2: Clone your reaction SETI one of our brigadors turned around

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and said the exact same thing that I was thinking.

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The guy looks like Peter Griffin from Family Guy, And

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all I want to say to that schmuck is Giggy

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Giggy to Giggley. Oh yeah, okay, all right, bullshit? I

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mean I called bullshit. Doesn't Donald own mar A Laga pressure.

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Doesn't Donald Trump have like fifty sixty seventy people there

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working for me working for him? Is it not possible?

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If the blue light is bothering his extremely delicate and

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sensitive eyes, don't you think that he could have easily

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easily called in somebody and replaced it. One would think

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the answer is that no, no, no, let's not replace it.

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Let's cover it instead, because it just makes sense. Let's

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cover it with a top secret folder. I mean, this

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guy is almost as big a clown as Alena Habba,

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who is just again, I don't know. I'd have to

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side with Joe Scarborough who made the statement, this guy

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looks like a schlub, he acts like a schlub. He's

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absolutely stupid. He's made a complete fool of himself in

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every way, shape and form, and now all of a sudden,

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he's expecting because he's got that dumb ass smile smirk

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on his face. It's like, yeah, you know, Donald likes

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to sleep at night, and you know he would basically

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use the folder in order to stop the blue lights

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from This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. It's

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almost as ridiculous as Alena Habba's stupidity. But who knows.

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another lie to the American people, believing that the American

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people are stupid that just because they say it means

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that we're going to accept it. And I can assure

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you that there's nobody, even the people who are the

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Trump's supporters that are following us right now, even they

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don't buy this bullshit. No.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I love the giggity giggity impression.

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I think we gotta clip that. But when you listen

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to what parlatory that lawyer was saying, also he goes,

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it's not a classified folder. It's just a folder that

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says classified on it. What It's just a folder that

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has classified marking signer. That doesn't mean it's classified. And

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then we also learn though that the contents, whether it

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was that folder or another folder, were downloaded into a laptop.

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So classified information downloaded into a laptop of at least

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one current aid to Donald Trump, a laptop from hell

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if you will, and that laptop had to be turned

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over to the Department of Justice as well. I mean, look,

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you compare the way Biden has handled everything, saying to

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the FBI, look, just you want to search it, search it.

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There's a gigantic difference. Even Pens, who we're going to

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talk about in a bit, he's so scared of his

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own shadow or the shadow of Donald Trump or Donald

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Trump posting frightens pen so much. But you know, look,

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Pence handled the documents the right way, and that's the

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difference between cooperation and criminal obstruction, and Trump is on

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the side of criminal obstruction here. And speaking of which,

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you got special counsel Jack Smith as well that we

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learned subpoena and actually called before the criminal grand jury

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in Washington, d C. We learned Evan Corcoran, one of

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Trump's lawyers, as well as Christina Bob. And we learned

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that the Department of just as you mentioned Alina Abba,

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they had quite but we don't quite know yet if

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she's spoken before the grand jury yet. But Trump's two lawyers,

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the key ones who were working on the working on

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obstructing justice in the stolen document case, Corkoran and Bob

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were both dealing with the Department of Justice and before that,

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the National Archives. Throughout twenty twenty two, they basically tapped

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Christina Bob to try to throw her under the bus

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with the DOJ, remember that Cohen. Back in June of

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twenty twenty two, they were like, Hey, Christina, come here,

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come here. You really love Donald Trump, don't you? Yes?

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Would you do anything for him?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: Can you just sign this attestation to the top counter

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intelligence official of the Department of Justice and just just

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let him know that you've done a diligent search and

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that all the documents have been returned. Well, I'm not

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sure if I should do that. Donald Trump would love it, Okay,

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I'll do it. Boom. And now she's in, you know,

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being investigated for crimes, as is Evan Corcoran, right. I

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mean they both stepped right into it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, I think it was Boris Epstein,

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who truthfully was not somebody that Donald even cared for

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during the campaign somehow or another. You know, he's remained

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in Donald's orbit simply because he was smart enough to

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stay to the left of Donald's wrath long enough to

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be one of the few people that have remained altogether.

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It's almost, you know, like he's remained there not because

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of the quality of what he's providing, but simply because

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everybody else has been killed around him. I mean, it's

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really amazing. And then you got now Jason Miller coming

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back to the alleged campaign. One because Jason is probably

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working cheap, and two again because he's one of the

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few people that are willing to come back into that

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orbit of shit and reap whatever repercussions that he will,

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so considering you may remember, I mean, he was charged

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at one point or he was accused of improper sexual

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relations with campaign staffers, and so he's another just a

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total ass clown. But putting all this aside. When I

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saw this, I mean, the first thing I thought is

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we need to put on our merch store. We need

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to put some classified folders up there. Maybe it'll be

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like a I don't know, a memo pad or something

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like that. This has got to be the dumbest thing

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I have ever ever heard any lawyer forgetting about the

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fact that it's Donald's lawyer. This has to be the

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dumbest thing I've ever heard anybody say ever. And the

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fact that he's willing to do it on television and

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to the public. I mean that to me is just amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, in the nick of an eye, right there,

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in the blink of an eye, just boom, there goes

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his career. Cohen, I want to get some updates as

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much as you can tell us. I mean, look, you

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are the key witness in the Manhattan District Attorney's criminal

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investigation into Donald Trump, so being that is both an

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incredible opportunity for our listeners and viewers to have you

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co host this show, but also it does come with

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limitations obviously, and having to respect the process, which you've

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done every step of the way. But what can you

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tell us in terms of any updates there that you

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may be aware of that has not been reported anywhere else.

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Speaker 2: See, everybody's heard. There's obviously a lot of back and

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forth that's going on between the District Attorney's office and

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Mark Palmerans who recently put out this book to people

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versus Donald Trump. It's fascinating that there are really two

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schools of thought here. The first school of thought is

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why would Palmerians do such a thing? There's an ongoing investigation,

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he shouldn't have put out a book. And then, of

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course there's the second school, which is it's all about transparency.

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He believed and rightfully or wrongly, that the investigation was over,

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in the fact that both he and Carrie Dunn resigned

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because Alvin Bragg took the position that you know, there's

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nothing going on here refused to take their position, which

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is that we need to immediately indict. Well, whatever camp

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that you're in, truth be told. I think it's irrelevant.

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since this investigation started, or even longer than that, over

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three years. Remember that the very first time that I

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met with the District Attorney's office, I was still in Otisville.

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The first three times they came to visit me while

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quite some time. I do believe in here comes the

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big announcement. I am going back. I'm going back to

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meet with the prosecutors. And it's already been put out

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there by whom why I don't know why it becomes

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such a big deal, But I will be going back

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for the sixteenth time to meet with the new team

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at the Alvin Bragg District Attorney's Office on Thursday, and

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I'm looking forward to seeing the team again and to

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answering the questions that I can now. Will I be

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the key witness? I don't know if I would go

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so far call myself the key witness. I'll allow that

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to be determined by the DA's office. But one thing

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I can tell you for certain is that I certainly

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am a witness. And the information that they continue to

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ask and continue to delve into now into the minutia

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to me is a very positive indication that Alvin Bragg

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is seeing something now that both Mark Pomerance and Carrie

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dunsaw over a year ago. Now. I've also been on

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Joy Reid and Nicole Wallace and half a dozen other

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shows where I talked about this, and my belief is

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that this is Alvin Bragg's office at the moment. He

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was the one who was elected district Attorney, and I

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think it's only fair that we give him at least

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enough leeway that he decides when the case should be brought.

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It's not my office. I certainly don't make that despite

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the fact that I believe that the case was ripe

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a while ago. But it wasn't my call. It's not

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your call, it's not anybody else's call other than the

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man who was elected to the And at this point

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in time, I think he is getting there. You know,

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everybody's been using, as I said the last time on

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the show, that everyone's using all of these metaphors dealing

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with transportation, especially aviation, in that it just wasn't ready

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for takeoff. Well, like I said before, and I'm going

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to stand by that statement, I think that we are

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on the tarmac. We are taking out to the runway,

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and at the end of the day, I know what

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I care about, I know Ben, what you care about.

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I know what our political Beatdown brigaders all care about.

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Is that we all end up at the destination that

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we're expecting. And I believe that that destination is indictment, prosecution,

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and conviction.

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Speaker 1: So that's big news that you're hearing first here exclusively

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on the political Beatdown Michael Cohen telling the Beatdown Brigade

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exclusively here that he will be meeting again with the

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Manhattan District Attorney's Office for the sixteenth time this Thursday,

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which you also believe in, and from my perspective as

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a lawyer as well, when these meetings start getting nearer

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and nearer to each other and more frequent, that is

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usually a good sign. You use the transportation metaphor right there,

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and then for those new to the Beatdown Brigade, you

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couldn't delve into much information, but you did say, Michael

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that you were very impressed with the team of lawyers

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and the team that you've been meeting with, and you

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even went so far as to say as much as

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you were impressed with Carrie Dunn and Pomerantz, this team

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right now, so far, and again I think you qualified

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it with you met with the other group far more

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times before, but at least your initial impressions of this

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group is that they are very impressive. They're very serious people,

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and to use your transportation metaphor, this is team that

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wants to fly the plane in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know one of the things I tried

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to explain. So this will be again the sixteenth time,

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the three times when I was in Otisville ten times

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under the cy Vance administration with Mark Pomerans and carry

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Dunn's as well as their team. This will now be

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the third time with this team, and they are as

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I stated before, they are equally impressive to the earlier team.

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They are very much in the know. They have a

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tremendous grasp of all of the information over a multitude

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of different areas impressive group because remember they're only at

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it since January, whereas the other team, you know, had

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the information and grew the information over a period of

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two years plus. So they are certainly the new team,

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certainly up to speed. They are impressive, and yes, I

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believe that the plane will be heading in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: That's good news. To hear. There was one person in

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the comments just who also asked, unrelatedly, but I wanted

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to answer it, Stephen Miller. Has he been subpoenaed by

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Special Counsel Jack Smith. The answer is absolutely yes, And

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in fact, Miller appeared before the criminal grand jury already

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in Washington, d C. And of course, Miller's significant for

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a variety of reasons, including the fact that he wrote

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the speech on January sixth, then purportedly removed language that

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reference threatening the life of Pence, and then Trump ad

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lib that back into the speech. So that was one

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of numerous important things. And of course Miller, Stephen Miller,

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was involved in a lot of other activities, the corrupt

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activities with Donald Trump. Right before we were set to

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go live, there was some breaking news being reported by

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politico Kyle Cheney, who does a great job breaking these stories.

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So I want to give a shout out to Kyle

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that former Vice President Pence will intends to object to

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the subpoena that he received from Special Counsel Jack Smith.

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In other words, Pence does not want to show up

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before the grand jury, he does not want to testify.

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And the grounds that Pence is asserting is the speech

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and debate clause privilege. Let's just pull up in the

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Constitution where their speech and debate clause privilege is found.

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the following. The Senators and Representatives shall receive a compensation

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for their services, to be ascertained by law and paid

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out of the Treasury of the United States. They shall,

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in all cases except trees and felony and breach of

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the piece, be privileged from arrest during their attendance at

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the session of their respective houses, and in going to

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and returning from the same end, for any speech or

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debate in either house. They shall not be questioned in

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any other place. And what that has been interpreted to

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mean is any legitimate legislative activity, not just speeches that

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take place in the House of Representatives. So you may recall,

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for example, Lindsey Graham asserted the speech and debate clause

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privilege to try to avoid testifying before the Fulton County

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grand Jury. He ultimately lost that where his activities outside

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of the House, outside of the Senate and that were

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not viewed as legitimate legislative activities, threatening, exhorting people to

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change the vote count in favor of Trump. In other words,

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encouraging people to commit crimes is not covered here. Many

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people thought that Pence was going to assert an executive privilege,

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which he would likely have no chance of prevailing on

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the executive privilege one, because the executive privilege is held

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by the current administration, not the former administration. Also, if

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there's a compelling need by the Department of Justice, which

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is the executive branch, that can override the executive privilege,

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and the Department of Justice has been successful in compelling

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the testimony over Trump's assertion of the executive privilege for

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people like Mark Short and Greg Jacob. Those were former

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top Pence aides, former chief of staff, former General counsel,

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and people like Pat Sippoloni and Patrick Fillman, Trump's former

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top White House lawyers who Trump asserted the executive privilege for.

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So he really had no shot there. He's going for

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the speech or debate clause. Because if you turn to

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Article one, Section three, clause four of the Constitution, it

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also says the Vice President of the United States shall

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be President of the Senate, but shall have no vote

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unless they be equally divided. So Pence is basically saying

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I was actually serving in the capacity a dual capacity,

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senator as the President of the Senate, and my legitimate

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legislative activity, my work in connection with my job as

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being the former president of the Senate, that is constitutionally

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protected and I shouldn't have to testify. It's never been

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tested before, and I'll find its way to the Supreme Court.

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The courts over time have had a relatively expansive view

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of the speech and debate claw the speech and Debate

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clause privilege, both in terms of in applying to former members,

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you know, as long as when the conduct occurred, not

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who the current administration is. And also it's also applied

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to staffers of members of Congress, not the Congress members themselves,

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And so would this be a further extension of that.

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But then it's just the non legal analysis and the

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broader point too that we should discuss Cohen as well.

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Speaker 4: Though.

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Speaker 1: Is that just shows you that if Cohen wants a

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if Pence wants a political career here, he's got to

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do every single thing to try to appear Donald Trump.

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And this is not someone in Mike Pence, you know,

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I know, a lot of people are very laudatory of

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him during the January sixth though he did the right thing.

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He did the right thing, but he's really a spineless

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trader when you really break it down.

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Speaker 2: You know, Ben, you said something which is very interesting

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that this has never been tested before. How many times

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have we now heard this coming out of either the

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Trump administration or the former Trump administration. We've never seen

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anything like this before. And the reason that this is

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all happening, the reason why we've never seen it before

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is because no other president, no one other than Donald

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Trump before him and God willing after him, would ever

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look at and ignore the Constitution, would ignore the rights

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of the people simply to benefit themselves. And Mike Pence's

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fear is not necessarily of Donald J. Trump, but rather

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trump Ism that there He's more concerned about Trump's base,

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that twenty eight percent that are die hair, die hard

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Trump fanatics, that they are willing to, you know, to

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go to bad for him. They're willing to attack the capital.

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Despite the fact that Donald of course was at the

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White House under you know, the full protection of Secret Service,

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watching as this thing unfolded on his televisions, enjoying it,

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So it's a there's a big difference between his allegiance

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to Donald Trump and his allegiance to trump Ism. And

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that's the big problem that we're seeing with the Lindsey Grahams.

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today announced that she herself is going to run for

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the presidency as against Donald in twenty twenty four. They

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are all concerned about the group of individuals that are

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so loyal for whatever they're reason might be, that are

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so loyal to Donald that that could end up creating

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political nightmares for them. And again, most of these politicians

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only care about themselves and their next election, So who knows,

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And we'll see what happens with Pence. My hope is

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that he does not get to invoke any privilege. He,

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like everyone else that was involved, needs to come forward.

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They need to testify to the truth. Now, there's a

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couple of folks that are part of our brigadors that

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clearly not they're just Trump supporting the part of that

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twenty eight percent. And one guy asked whether or not

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my goal is to hurt Donald and I've made a

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crystal clear, So maybe you weren't on before with us,

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or maybe you just don't pay attention, or maybe you

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just don't have the mental capability within which to listen

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and to understand what I'm trying to say. I do

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not want to see and some of you may have

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heard this before, so please bear with me. I do

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not want to see Donald Trump indicted. I do not

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want to see Donald Trump prosecuted. And I do not

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want to see Donald Trump incarcerated or some form of

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incarceration because I dislike him, because I fundamentally disagree with

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almost every single thing that comes out of his mouth.

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I want him to be indicted, prosecuted, and convicted simply

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based upon what he has done, the illegal and improper

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and unethical actions taken by a man who does not

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want to be and never wanted to be, president of

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the United States, but rather a ruler, rather an autocrat, monarch, dictator,

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supreme leader. All right, that's what I want to see.

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I want him to be held accountable, just like you would,

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just like I was, just like anybody else in the

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country would be, if in fact that they committed the

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same thing, and rest assured if you had one single

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if you had one single top secret document in your possession,

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and that may even include a file folder, depending upon

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how relevant you were to the prosecutors putting you away.

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You like someone like Reality Winner, would have gotten a

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minimum of a five year sentence. Make no mistake about that,

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and anyone that thinks anything different again, you are knee

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deep into the cult of Donald J. Trump and you

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need to be extricated immediately.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't agree more with you there, you know, when you

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know already wealthy people sometimes have an unfair most times

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have an unfair advantage anyway, in terms of when you

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have the top lawyers, one of the things you can

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do is you can fight with every type of doctrine

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and delay and try to paper the thing to death.

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So there's already that. But when you're a former president,

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you're given a whole toolkit of different types of objections

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that you can make though that no other citizen can make.

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That the Constitution, for how great it is, never really

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was able, you know. And look, the stress test, fortunately

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is that the separation of powers that we have has

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worked just barely. And frankly, it's the federal courts that

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likely saved us, you know, at the time, and the

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fact that Democrats controlled you know at the time the

479
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:37,240
House of Representatives as well. That also saved us at

480
00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:41,279
that time. But as you kind of dig deeper into it,

481
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I mean, you know, Trump's able to bring executive privilege

482
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,319
objection and and all of these things, and they're frivolous

483
00:29:47,359 --> 00:29:51,920
objections speech and debate clause objection by Pence, and it

484
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,440
just delayed, delayed, delay, And it's very frustrating, you know,

485
00:29:56,559 --> 00:29:59,920
to watch that process, you know, play out and delay.

486
00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:04,519
But it's also important that we channel that frustration and

487
00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:09,319
at least recognize where it's actually coming from versus who

488
00:30:09,319 --> 00:30:12,400
are the people who are trying to hold them accountable.

489
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And that's why we do shows like this because transparency,

490
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,319
facts matter rather than just the sound bite. It's, by

491
00:30:21,359 --> 00:30:23,759
the way, we talked on the last political Beatdown about

492
00:30:23,759 --> 00:30:26,720
these committee hearings where Democrats have just been doing an

493
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,519
incredible job confronting the MAGA Republican with their lives because

494
00:30:31,759 --> 00:30:34,880
it's not a sound bite forum. It's actually a forum

495
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,960
that allows discussion and allows you to call out and

496
00:30:40,039 --> 00:30:42,759
expose the hypocrisy that's taking place.

497
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Speaker 2: Ben Let's not forget that Donald has been doing the

498
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:52,519
same dog and pony show for his entire life. Donald

499
00:30:52,599 --> 00:30:56,640
has figured out how to use the system to his

500
00:30:56,799 --> 00:31:01,240
own advantage. And I'm referring to the legal system. Lay delayed, delay,

501
00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:05,720
throw money at it, file frivolous motions. We all saw

502
00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:10,079
that he and Alna Hababa Baba Daba ended up getting

503
00:31:10,319 --> 00:31:16,160
fined like a million dollars for their delay tactics and

504
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,440
the court had had enough. Now, interestingly enough, wouldn't that

505
00:31:20,519 --> 00:31:24,960
be something special if the same thing happened to Mike Pence?

506
00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:27,960
You want to play this game, little Mike. You want

507
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,920
to be a motherfucker and go ahead and stop the

508
00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:35,119
entire investigation into what could have amounted to the end

509
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,200
of democracy. And then you want to start exerting some

510
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,759
sort of privilege that you're probably not even entitled to,

511
00:31:42,359 --> 00:31:45,200
simply to delay it so that you can get closer

512
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,960
to an election. And then maybe if Donald ends up

513
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,960
becoming the nominee, this whole thing goes away because the

514
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,160
committees won't allow it or what have you. Maybe we

515
00:31:54,359 --> 00:31:57,039
end up, maybe the court ends up finding him for

516
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,680
a frivolous lawsuit. Who knows, but that would be because

517
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,279
I promise you this Donald would not reach into the

518
00:32:04,319 --> 00:32:07,279
coffers of the money that was given to him by

519
00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:10,880
this twenty eight percent of sick of fans. He would

520
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,799
not reach into his pocket. He would not help Mike

521
00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:17,799
Pence or anyone out with that money except for himself

522
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,240
or something that benefits him. And I don't think that

523
00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:26,160
he would do a damn thing for Pence whatsoever. The

524
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,720
fact that Pence is doing this just goes to show

525
00:32:29,799 --> 00:32:33,440
you that he is not the right man for the job.

526
00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:39,079
In twenty twenty four, and interestingly enough, you will see,

527
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,599
in my opinion, he will be either the last of

528
00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:46,599
all the candidates. He'll have the lowest percentage. I'd be

529
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,400
shocked if he got one to two percent of the

530
00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:57,000
vote's He is, I mean, systemically disliked by the entire party.

531
00:32:57,319 --> 00:33:01,079
He really has no following on his own. He accomplished

532
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,839
little to nothing. The fact that he stood up to

533
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,559
Donald and did the right thing, and you know, acknowledge

534
00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:11,960
that Joe Biden had won the election. Could you imagine

535
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,920
that we now give somebody credit. We slapped them on

536
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,039
the ass and pat them on the back and say

537
00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:22,119
good for you. Mike, Yeah, did the right thing. You

538
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,039
acknowledge that it's a free and fair election and that

539
00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:30,039
Donald lost and Joe Biden won by nine million votes.

540
00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:34,079
Yeah yeah, good job, then, Mike, Yeah, real good job.

541
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:37,279
I mean, give me a fucking break already. The fact

542
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:40,720
that we even acknowledged that he did this in order

543
00:33:40,759 --> 00:33:43,559
to give him some sort of a prop makes no

544
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,039
sense to me at all, and we have to stop.

545
00:33:46,279 --> 00:33:48,720
We have to hold him accountable for the fact that

546
00:33:48,759 --> 00:33:52,519
Donald even got to that position, because this was not

547
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:57,359
something that popped up literally on that day on January sixth.

548
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,519
This had been in discussion long before January sixth, and

549
00:34:01,559 --> 00:34:04,640
rest assured Mike Pence heard about it, knew about it,

550
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,559
was involved in it some way, shape or form, and

551
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,920
he needs to come clean. No different for example than

552
00:34:11,039 --> 00:34:16,000
Bill a fucking moron, Bill Barr. I mean, Bill Barr

553
00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:19,360
needs to be put in front of the committee, especially,

554
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,199
let's even put him in front of Jim Jordan's committee,

555
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,760
the Weaponization of the Department of Justice Committee. Why is

556
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,880
Bill Barr not in front stating exactly what he did,

557
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:32,880
not just during that period of time, but from the

558
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,119
day that he accepted the job and was sworn in

559
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,360
as Attorney general. Everything that Donald had him do, every

560
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,039
illegal action, every single every single thing that we have

561
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:49,119
all been talking about looking at again and again and again.

562
00:34:49,519 --> 00:34:53,000
Bill Barr needs to provide answers, not the fact that, oh,

563
00:34:53,079 --> 00:34:56,199
I told Donald that you know you lost the election.

564
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,840
Stop at Donald. All of a sudden, this guy thinks

565
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,039
he's invited back into polite society. How about I think not.

566
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:06,559
Speaker 1: You know, Pence does this shtick that I like to

567
00:35:06,599 --> 00:35:09,320
do on the Midas Touch podcast, and I'll bring it

568
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,199
to the Brigade where he's always asked these questions. So,

569
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,719
you know, they tried to kill you, so even though

570
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,800
they tried to kill you, you'd still support the people

571
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,000
who tried to kill you. They ask variations of that question,

572
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,079
and he does this thing because he's just such a phony,

573
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,920
bloviating you know what, right, and.

574
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 5: So he always goes, well, let me tell you this. First,

575
00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:38,280
I'm a Christian, Second, I'm a Conservative, and third I'm

576
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,360
a Republican. So yeah, even if they tried to kill me,

577
00:35:42,159 --> 00:35:44,559
I would find it in my heart. I'd have to

578
00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:46,320
find it in my heart, and I would support him.

579
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,400
It's like, what planet are you from? I think those

580
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,920
aliens that are you know, that have been spotted they're

581
00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:54,079
dropping Mike Pensis here watch this alien.

582
00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: Let's play this clip. I'll show it to you, Salty,

583
00:35:56,039 --> 00:35:56,639
play the video.

584
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,159
Speaker 6: I'm about the twenty twenty two election, and I think

585
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:03,599
that you're analysis is one that is generally accurate that

586
00:36:03,639 --> 00:36:07,280
the candidates who were hung up on the election lies

587
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,400
of of twenty twenty did not fare as well in

588
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,000
twenty twenty two as the ones who stepped forward and

589
00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:20,679
talked about the future. I was, and I know you

590
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,480
know better than anyone in a bad way what those

591
00:36:23,519 --> 00:36:26,360
election lies can mean in terms of disgusts being excited.

592
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,519
I was surprised to see you campaigning for Don Baldock

593
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,840
in New Hampshire and Blake Masters in Arizona, who were

594
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:39,400
two people who lied about the election who defeated. One

595
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,480
could say one could argue better candidates in the Republican

596
00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:48,159
primaries who were future leaning candidates. Did you why did

597
00:36:48,199 --> 00:36:49,719
you endorse them, Why did you support them?

598
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 2: Why did you.

599
00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 6: Campaign for them?

600
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 7: Well, you know, I've often said I'm a Christian, a Conservative,

601
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,440
and a Republican in that order, but I'm a Republican,

602
00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:03,079
and once Republican primary voters chosen their nominees, I went

603
00:37:03,079 --> 00:37:05,119
out and traveled to thirty five states over the last

604
00:37:05,199 --> 00:37:06,679
year and a half, to see if we could elect

605
00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:09,719
a Republican majority in the House and Senate, elect Republican

606
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,360
governors all across the country. And didn't mean, as it

607
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,159
hasn't meant in the past, that I agree with every

608
00:37:15,159 --> 00:37:18,039
statement or every position candidates that I'm supporting in the

609
00:37:18,039 --> 00:37:19,920
Republican Party have taken.

610
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,519
Speaker 2: But uh, but I was pleased to do it.

611
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 5: I was pleased to do it.

612
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, those police, they wanted to kill me. You want

613
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,480
to know where he's from. He's from the planet bullshit,

614
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:35,280
from the galaxy of Go fuck yourself, you insane lunatic.

615
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:38,239
I mean, yeah, they only showed up. They built a

616
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,079
fucking gallo in front of the People's House. Could you

617
00:37:42,119 --> 00:37:44,760
imagine this in front of the Capitol. They built the

618
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,719
gallo screaming, hang my tens. But don't worry. I'm a Christian,

619
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,039
all right, and that's okay. I'm gonna learn to forgive them. Yeah,

620
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,519
unlike Jesus, my friend, you ain't gonna rise all right,

621
00:37:56,599 --> 00:37:58,840
So let me be very clear about that. You and

622
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,679
that fucking fly that was one sitting on that on

623
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,559
that head of his This guy is really stupid. I mean,

624
00:38:05,679 --> 00:38:09,039
I don't care what anybody says. I just it makes

625
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:12,159
no sense to me at all that you have a

626
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,559
bunch of people who want to kill you, and they

627
00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:19,880
want to kill you because you didn't do the right

628
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:25,280
thing by Donald right the autocratic wanna be and instead

629
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,719
you did what you're obligated to do. But that's okay.

630
00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:33,119
I travel to thirty two states and so I mean,

631
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,760
if this guy doesn't sound like the biggest moron in

632
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,360
the world, I don't know. He sounds to me like

633
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,880
he needs a very serious enema.

634
00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: I think he may well, I won't even go there,

635
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,679
all right. So, also Bannon apparently is not paying his

636
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,000
legal fees at all. His you know, a story leaked

637
00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:55,760
also to The Politico and to the Daily Beast as well,

638
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,760
basically saying that he's not paying his fees. He owes

639
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,840
this guy Robert Costelle. Do you know Costello at all? Coena,

640
00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:03,679
this lawyer from New York City.

641
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: Sadly I did so Costello is at This is in

642
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:11,280
my book Revenge. I mean, I hope that people I

643
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,239
hope that people read the book. It is so important

644
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,559
to understanding what's really going on here. It's sort of

645
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:21,400
like the predicate for all the other books. So Bob

646
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,840
Costello when I was right after I was rated and

647
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:29,119
I was looking for an attorney. Bob Costello shows up

648
00:39:29,559 --> 00:39:33,440
with another lawyer who I happen to know, and he

649
00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:37,280
gives me the old song and Shoe dance. He's very

650
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,199
close to Rudy, which he is, and that Rudy's on

651
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,440
the inside, and it's important that you know, we have

652
00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:47,119
somebody on the inside and you on the outside, because

653
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,360
you know, we want to be able to get the

654
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,239
big guy, you know who that is, Wink wink, so

655
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,079
we can end up then having all the messages run

656
00:39:56,159 --> 00:39:58,320
up the chain and so on and so forth. He

657
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,239
is the most disingenuous lawyer. He's not even considered a

658
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,920
respectable lawyer. He's just a Rudy Giuliani, whereas we like

659
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:11,440
to call Mameya Koppa. He's the Recalludi, drunken Giuliani lawyer

660
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,519
that ended up literally and he did the same thing.

661
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,920
He made phone calls. He was sending text messages saying

662
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,000
things like, you have friends in high places, you know

663
00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:27,239
what you need to say, blah blah blah. You know,

664
00:40:27,679 --> 00:40:30,199
Rudy spoke to I just got off the phone with Rudy.

665
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,000
He spoke to the big guy et cetera. I mean,

666
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,079
the things that were going on here, you would think

667
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:39,800
that this is more dealing with the Gambino crime family

668
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:44,480
than you would talking about, you know, the president of

669
00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:47,159
the United States of America. And I guess that's why

670
00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:52,000
Mark Palmeran is referred to Trump as you know, similar

671
00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:52,880
to John Gotti.

672
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: By the way, there's so many reasons I love doing

673
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,039
this show with you when you're one of my closest

674
00:40:58,039 --> 00:41:00,679
friends now. But two, you know all of these people,

675
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:05,119
so you can give some of the color here, like yeah, Costello,

676
00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:08,239
he's a tool, like you just don't get that anywhere

677
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,639
else other than people who know these characters.

678
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: But think about this too, and how stupid is he

679
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,679
to allow the bill to keep knowing that Steve Bannon

680
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,880
is going to do to him what Donald has historically

681
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,840
done to almost every single law firm that he's ever

682
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,519
dealt with. What makes you think that he wasn't going

683
00:41:27,559 --> 00:41:29,960
to get paid. There was one lawyer who was smarter

684
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:32,159
than the rest. I forget who it was, but he

685
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,239
ended up getting the money in advance from Donald in

686
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,119
order to represent him. So in the event that Donald

687
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,239
did what Donald always does, which is to interfere in

688
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,000
whatever litigation to decide that he's going to be the

689
00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:46,920
guy to direct it. This guy could walk away and

690
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,400
he's keeping like four million dollars when then again Rudy Kaludi,

691
00:41:51,519 --> 00:41:54,840
drunken Giuliani believed that he was entitled what was it

692
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,079
like one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a day that

693
00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:01,559
he was expected, you know, to get paid, and Donald

694
00:42:01,559 --> 00:42:04,320
of course stiffed him on all of that money. So

695
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:09,360
the fact that Steve Bannon stiffed Bob Costello, I mean,

696
00:42:10,199 --> 00:42:15,559
is anybody here you know, are they shocked at what

697
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,599
this revelation shows.

698
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,599
Speaker 1: Here, I'm gonna make my own little graphic here. That's

699
00:42:20,639 --> 00:42:24,719
the lawyer, Christopher Kaise, who was the one who he's

700
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,159
also a foreign agent of the Maduro regime in Venezuela.

701
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,440
But he was smart, he is he filled out a

702
00:42:31,519 --> 00:42:34,440
foreign far in whatever form and he advises them so

703
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,960
for all of the Maga, oh Chinese dis and Venezuela.

704
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,719
And that the lawyer who you mentioned is a foreign

705
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,840
agent for Venezuela. That's who's representing Trump. But he got

706
00:42:47,039 --> 00:42:51,920
the three million upfront from the Save America grifting organization

707
00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:57,000
that Trump runs. And then Bannon for not paying the

708
00:42:57,119 --> 00:43:01,079
legal fees of people like Costello. Bannon's bank rolled by

709
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:05,079
a Chinese billionaire. You know, Bannon gives the speeches reading

710
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,480
Tom Fitton's plan about how we're going to declare victory

711
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,960
even if we lose in the twenty twenty election. There's

712
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,119
that audio recording of Bannon at a meeting by the

713
00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:20,440
Chinese businessman billionaire who bankrolls Bannon, where Bannon says, here's

714
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,039
how we're going to overthrow democracy. And of course Donald

715
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:27,960
Trump pays more money in taxes to the Chinese government

716
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:31,239
by far than he's ever paid to the United States government,

717
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:36,119
has secret Chinese bank accounts. Of course, Ivanka has all

718
00:43:36,159 --> 00:43:39,480
of the patents or the trademarks over there that she's

719
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,920
gotten the favorable treatment. So like every single accusation is

720
00:43:44,039 --> 00:43:47,599
an admission of actually what they're doing. But you know,

721
00:43:47,679 --> 00:43:50,880
Bannon has these, you know, three separate cases, one of

722
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,760
them is ongoing. One he was convicted of, and one

723
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,360
he was pardoned of, right that we build the wall

724
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,159
federal case. He was ultimately pardon of right before Trump

725
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,960
left office, and the federal judge had to dismiss the case,

726
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,440
but made it clear that the pardon was an admission

727
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,079
of his guilt contempt of Congress. He was found guilty

728
00:44:10,119 --> 00:44:13,039
of abandon was found guilty of and he's appealing that

729
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,079
right now. And then he was charged with a state

730
00:44:17,159 --> 00:44:19,639
prosecution out of New York for the we Build the

731
00:44:19,679 --> 00:44:23,000
Wall scam. These Maga Republicans one of their go to

732
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:26,239
scams you look at like the George Santos go fund

733
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,679
me scam. They use go fundme to just like scam

734
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,599
and steal from people. Right, So, George Santos, the Maga Republican,

735
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,760
he would set up the go fund me account so

736
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that he could steal money from disabled, homeless veterans by

737
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,440
saying that he was going to provide life saving surgery

738
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:48,599
for their dying pets. Of course, you don't get much

739
00:44:48,639 --> 00:44:51,800
more sympathetic than that, So people would give money and

740
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,280
Santos then just stole the money. Like this is known

741
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,960
to the Magau's Republicans and they're like, let's put this

742
00:44:59,039 --> 00:45:03,719
guy on the Small Business Committee. And then Bannon's go

743
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,519
fund me scam, as though we build the Wall scam.

744
00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:08,719
I thought Mexico was supposed to pay for the wall,

745
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but apparently not. They created a go fund me scam

746
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,920
where they took all this money from donors, and then

747
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,199
Bannon was actually arrested by the FEDS on the Chinese

748
00:45:20,199 --> 00:45:23,480
billionaire's yacht. He was pardoned for that by Trump, and

749
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then he's being charged for the same.

750
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Speaker 2: Well where else, Ben, would you want to get picked up? Right?

751
00:45:28,119 --> 00:45:30,400
I mean, if you're gonna get picked up somewhere, you know,

752
00:45:30,639 --> 00:45:33,880
why not on a Chinese billionaire's yacht. You know. The

753
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:39,360
funny thing though, is that it's It's amazing. Steve Bannon

754
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,360
is actually quite wealthy in his own right. He didn't

755
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:49,119
need this Chinese billionaire in order to bankroll his life.

756
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,840
Steve Bannon is actually quite successful. He's like an executive

757
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,760
producer on it was a major television show. I forget

758
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,119
which one it was. I don't want to. I don't

759
00:45:59,159 --> 00:46:02,360
want to say the wrong one. But if you look

760
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,440
it up you'll see. I mean he made a ton

761
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of money.

762
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Speaker 1: Uh, and also ruin the show for you. It's a

763
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good show. I know the show. I don't want to.

764
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I don't want to ruin it for you.

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Speaker 2: Could say it, I just don't remember if I always

766
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,199
get confused between one and the other. But my it

767
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,119
is I felt, yeah, that's what I thought. I mean,

768
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,159
you know, he made a couple hundred million dollars as

769
00:46:21,199 --> 00:46:24,599
an executive producer, so he's no poor boy that he

770
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needed this Chinese billionaire. But I guess like Donald, it's

771
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,679
almost like, you know, I'll take money from anyone so

772
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,199
long as that they're going, you know, to support me

773
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:39,480
in my quest for you know, world domination under whatever

774
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sort of sick way that he wants to see the

775
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United States and the rest of the world operate. I mean,

776
00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:47,440
you know, the rest of us are sitting there and

777
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,960
we want to see women's rights, whether it's from you know,

778
00:46:51,039 --> 00:46:54,360
Iran all the way here to the United States. You know,

779
00:46:54,639 --> 00:46:57,800
that's not Steve Bannon. He wants to see you know,

780
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:03,400
the country you know, revert into what it was fifty

781
00:47:03,519 --> 00:47:08,440
sixty plus years ago, you know, where women didn't have

782
00:47:08,519 --> 00:47:12,639
the rights that they have today. And there's just something

783
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,360
seriously wrong with him and that whole crew of people

784
00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:20,880
that just surround themselves. But then again, that's what Donald

785
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,159
Trump brings out. And I want to be very clear

786
00:47:23,159 --> 00:47:25,920
because a couple of folks, you know again, you know,

787
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,880
they're the haters on the group as we do this

788
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,239
political beat down and trying to inform our you know,

789
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,840
brigade in terms of things that we're going to need

790
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,960
to do to ensure twenty twenty four, things that they

791
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,880
don't want to understand. Yeah, you could attack me all

792
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,480
you want. I'm no hero. I never said that I

793
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:49,119
was a hero that I have no sympathy for this guy.

794
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,159
He was part of the issue. I want to be

795
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,119
very clear about something. First and foremost, if you read

796
00:47:54,159 --> 00:47:57,719
my book, you would understand I pled guilty to seven

797
00:47:58,119 --> 00:48:00,480
out of eight charges that I had no thing to

798
00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:03,360
do with that were absolute lies. And you say, well,

799
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,320
why did you do it? And again, because when you

800
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,159
have forty eight hours to make a decision, and the

801
00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:13,440
decision in the negative will implicate or it will have

802
00:48:14,159 --> 00:48:18,519
a deleterious effect upon your wife, who you care about,

803
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,119
who you love with all your heart, and it'll have

804
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,679
an effect upon your children, And so you do what

805
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,880
you need to do. There's a book that was written

806
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,960
by Judge Jed Raycoff, Why the Innocent Plead Guilty and

807
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,760
the Guilty Go Free. You got to learn to read

808
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,639
before you make stupid statements like this, because what it

809
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:42,320
does is, again, it's just a distraction from the reality.

810
00:48:42,599 --> 00:48:46,159
We are fighting. All of us here today are fighting

811
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:50,400
for what we're fighting for American democracy. We're fighting for

812
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,599
the rights to go forward in the future, not backwards.

813
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,519
We don't want like what this guy does is just

814
00:48:57,559 --> 00:49:00,239
to go backwards. We want to go forward. We want

815
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,599
to expand people's rights. I mean, the fact that we

816
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:08,039
now see the loss v of the Road decision in

817
00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:11,880
and of itself should be alarming to everyone. And it

818
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,400
should be alarming because we have now an incredibly young

819
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,920
group of individuals on the Supreme Court who will stay

820
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,840
there for as long as they want, and that basically

821
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,199
means till the day they die. So we really need

822
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,599
to be very careful about who gets elected, about who's

823
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:36,599
you know, ideas and their ideology end up becoming bills

824
00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:39,519
and then bills, you know, being made into law. So

825
00:49:39,639 --> 00:49:42,880
we have to stay vigilant. You could only imagine what

826
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,800
would happen if you have all three chambers now controlled

827
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:52,440
by Republicans. You will see the fastest loss of constitutional

828
00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:56,400
rights and protections that this country has ever seen. So

829
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,239
guide yourselves accordingly, and you're hearing it right now. On

830
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,159
the political Beatdown with Bagel Ben and Michael Cohen, you're

831
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,679
hearing my warning to you exactly what's going to happen

832
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,079
if in fact we allow these individuals to take control

833
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,000
over our government. And that's why I keep imploring everybody.

834
00:50:17,079 --> 00:50:20,440
Make sure that you tell your friends about the political beatdown.

835
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,719
Make sure you tell them about midas, touch about maya culpa.

836
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,599
Make sure that they read the important books, not the

837
00:50:26,679 --> 00:50:29,960
salacious shit that everybody wants to hear. Oh, like what

838
00:50:30,119 --> 00:50:32,599
the Southern District of New York. Did you know one

839
00:50:32,639 --> 00:50:35,280
of the things that happened not too many days ago.

840
00:50:35,519 --> 00:50:38,079
You may have seen it, Ben, and I hope that

841
00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:42,159
our brigaders saw it as well. Jamie Raskin appeared before

842
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,199
the Committee on the Weaponization of the DOJ, and he

843
00:50:46,599 --> 00:50:53,159
gave a impassioned speech about how bad right now things

844
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,679
are and if in fact that this group, this committee

845
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:01,920
is going to be bipartisan and actually effectuate some positive

846
00:51:02,159 --> 00:51:05,480
change in terms of how we the people see the

847
00:51:05,519 --> 00:51:10,440
Department of Justice and the improper behavior that was taken.

848
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,760
The very first case that we have to look at

849
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,559
is the case of Michael Cohen when the United States

850
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,880
of America, when the government the DOJ, Bill Barr, Donald Trump, etc.

851
00:51:21,199 --> 00:51:26,039
When they had me unconstitutionally remanded because I refuse to

852
00:51:26,079 --> 00:51:29,760
waive my first Amendment constitutional right now. If there are

853
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:34,760
other issues that need to be explored investigated, so be it.

854
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,760
I don't care if they're Republicans, if they're Democrats, independents,

855
00:51:39,199 --> 00:51:42,480
it's irrelevant to me. We all need to have faith

856
00:51:42,519 --> 00:51:46,760
in our Department of Justice. Otherwise, once again, what do

857
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,360
you think is going to happen to our democracy? And

858
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:54,039
that's why again, folks, please listen, Listen to when Ben

859
00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:57,360
and I speak, Listen to the from the various different

860
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,920
podcasts and appearances that we make. It is so important

861
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:05,480
that we all band together like a brigade and we

862
00:52:05,639 --> 00:52:08,840
ensure that American democracy is not messed with.

863
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,639
Speaker 1: Let's play that clip that Cohen referenced from Jamie Ruskin

864
00:52:12,679 --> 00:52:13,679
the other day. Play the clip.

865
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Speaker 4: In the case of Michael Cohen, the president's former lawyer

866
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and confidante for many years, in August twenty eighteen, he

867
00:52:21,039 --> 00:52:24,920
pleaded guilty to campaign finance violations over large hush money

868
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,760
payments he arranged before the twenty sixteen election to keep

869
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,840
porn stars Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougall from talking about

870
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,639
sexual affairs They had with Donald Trump. You guys remember

871
00:52:35,639 --> 00:52:39,199
this one well. After Barr became Attorney General in February

872
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:43,639
twenty nineteen, he worked to kill further investigations related to

873
00:52:43,679 --> 00:52:47,880
those payoffs and suggested that mister Cohen's conviction on campaign

874
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,639
finance charges itself be reversed, even though six months had

875
00:52:51,639 --> 00:52:56,639
already passed since Cohen had entered a guilty fleet. Amazingly,

876
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:01,199
after Cohen was imprisoned for a year, then being transferred

877
00:53:01,599 --> 00:53:06,159
out of prison to home confinement during COVID nineteen, Barr

878
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:11,039
and the DJ intervened to block his transfer because Cohen

879
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,840
would not immediately accept, as a condition of his ankle

880
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,760
bracelet home confinement, not to engage in First Amendment activities,

881
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:24,840
specifically writing and publishing a book about Donald Trump or

882
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,119
saying anything in public on TV and the social media

883
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,239
about Donald Trump. Cohen had already been home for two

884
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,599
weeks when this unconstitutional demand from DOJ appeared, and when

885
00:53:35,639 --> 00:53:38,079
he and his attorney dared to ask questions about it,

886
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,800
three federal marshals showed up with handcuffs and shackles, and

887
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,440
he was returned to the Otisville Correctional Institute. There he

888
00:53:46,519 --> 00:53:51,000
spent sixteen days in solitary confinement before they were able

889
00:53:51,039 --> 00:53:53,360
to get his case before a federal district judge, who

890
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,719
immediately found that Barr's purpose quote in transferring Cohen for

891
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,840
release on furlough and home confinement back to custody was

892
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:06,360
retaliatory in response to Cohen desiring to exercise his First

893
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,079
Amendment rights to publish a book critical of the president,

894
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and to discuss the book on social media. Can you

895
00:54:13,639 --> 00:54:18,119
think of a more egregious example of weaponizing the Department

896
00:54:18,159 --> 00:54:23,800
of Justice for nakedly political purposes than imprisoning and putting

897
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:28,440
in solitary confinement the president's own former lawyer, simply because

898
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he wanted to exercise his First Amendment rights.

899
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Speaker 1: It's a really really strong clip, and you had you

900
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:38,119
had described it before. Anything else you want to say

901
00:54:38,159 --> 00:54:39,920
about the clip now that you've seen it again.

902
00:54:40,599 --> 00:54:43,679
Speaker 2: No, just that at some point today, just everybody please

903
00:54:44,039 --> 00:54:46,880
say a prayer for Jamie. As I'm sure you all

904
00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:51,599
saw that's the bandana. Just say a prayer for him.

905
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:54,960
He's a very good man and I could not thank

906
00:54:55,079 --> 00:54:59,360
him enough for making that statement. On my behalf. It

907
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,840
is something I had been yelling from the rooftops for

908
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,920
God knows how long. It is something that I sued

909
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,559
the United States government that is now on appeal for

910
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,119
the exact same cause. It is something that I had

911
00:55:12,159 --> 00:55:17,119
sued my former accountant for, you know, his screwing up

912
00:55:17,199 --> 00:55:20,239
of my taxes which gave you know, it's not even

913
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,320
a screw up. It was a misstatement. It was an

914
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,960
error just like one hundred million other Americans have had

915
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,199
over the course I am a first time with Look again,

916
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,079
it's all in the book Revenge. I implore people to

917
00:55:33,119 --> 00:55:36,920
read it so that you understand exactly what happens when

918
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,880
an autocratic wanna be ends up in the White House. Now,

919
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,920
the thing that I always say is that when Donald

920
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,280
Trump was first deciding to run, it's not the same

921
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,880
Donald Trump. What happened is that the power it didn't

922
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,519
just go to his head, It went to his soul

923
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,480
where he really truly believes that he is bigger, better,

924
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,360
more important, and more significant than everybody else in the

925
00:56:01,519 --> 00:56:05,880
entire country. That includes his wife, children, everybody. All right,

926
00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:09,159
Donald Trump, when he became president of the United States,

927
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:15,159
became the absolute worst version of himself imaginable and saw

928
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,559
himself as an autocrat or an autocratic want to be

929
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,159
wants to be Putin, wants to be a Kim Jong Un,

930
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,920
wants to be Mohammed Ben Salman, anyone who has that

931
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:30,239
autocratic hour. That's who Donald Trump wanted to emulate. And

932
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,480
that's the danger that we all need to ensure never ever,

933
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,239
ever happens again.

934
00:56:36,639 --> 00:56:40,119
Speaker 1: As President Obama says, it's not that the presidency changes

935
00:56:40,199 --> 00:56:43,960
you so much as it brings out the qualities that

936
00:56:44,039 --> 00:56:48,639
you've already possessed into a far clearer focus, and it

937
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,960
accentuates and exaggerates those qualities. So if those qualities are

938
00:56:53,039 --> 00:56:57,079
really good, deessentuates that if those qualities are really bad,

939
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,760
it shows that as well. And finally, I want to

940
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:04,880
talk about the Fulton County Superior Court Judge Robert mcbernie,

941
00:57:05,079 --> 00:57:09,119
who made an order yesterday on Monday saying that he

942
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would release three portions of the Special grand Jury report,

943
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,920
the special grand jury that's been impaneled since twenty twenty

944
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:23,360
two to investigate criminal election interference in Georgia. The Special

945
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:27,920
grand Jury voted that they wanted their report released. The

946
00:57:28,119 --> 00:57:32,360
language in the applicable Georgia Statute says that the judge

947
00:57:32,599 --> 00:57:37,400
shall not may shall if the recommendation is made, but

948
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:42,480
there were some counterbalancing factors though that also needed to

949
00:57:42,519 --> 00:57:46,000
be weighed, which is that Fawnie Willis, the Fulton County

950
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:51,639
District Attorney, said that indictments are imminent and that there's

951
00:57:51,719 --> 00:57:56,440
a due process concern for individuals who are mentioned in

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the report if their names are publicized before indictments. So

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in other words, it's actually the district attorney who requested

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this so that people who are ultimately prosecuted will not

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be able to argue later that their conviction should be

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overturned because they were prejudiced by the pre indictment publicity

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and that prejudice the jury pool and the community and

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all of that. And so it's not that their remaining

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portions are never going to come out. They will come

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out after indictment, after the criminal discovery process. Then the

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public will get the full report, and obviously in the indictment,

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we will know what the charges are, because indictments will

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ultimately be made public. Those are public court records. So

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the three portions that are going to be released include

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the introduction and conclusion, as well as section eight of

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the report, where the Special Grand Jury disc gusses its

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concerns that some witnesses may have lied under oath during

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their testimony to the grand jury, because specific names aren't

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mentioned in that section. One of the parts of the

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order that I found particularly relevant as well, when Judge

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McBurnie is talking about the due process concerns of certain individuals,

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he also mentions this is particularly true as well if

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the grand jury's final report includes recommendations involving individuals who

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never appeared before the grand jury and so had no

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opportunity limited or not to be heard. And if you

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think about it, who could that possibly be referring to,

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Because Fawny willis called a lot of people before that

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grand jury. But when I think of an individual who

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could be the subject of a recommendation for indictments who

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never appeared before the grand injury and so didn't have

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the opportunity limited or not to be heard, I mean,

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I think that's speaking of Donald Trump right there. I

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could be wrong, but it seems obvious that that's who.

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That's where my mind immediately went. And then one thing

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that Judge McBurney said at the end of his order, though,

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was basically a District Attorney's office, please provide updates because

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I'm basically doing this because you say you said indictments

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are imminent, so like let's let's judge McBurnie didn't say this,

989
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,920
but the message is like, let's get the show on

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the road here because I've already delayed this thing for

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two weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, at the end of the day, all of

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these investigations seemed to be moving slower than molasses to

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01:00:45,239 --> 01:00:48,000
a strainer. And I have nothing but the utmost of

995
01:00:48,039 --> 01:00:52,679
respect for Fanny Willis and the investigation. These things are

996
01:00:52,719 --> 01:00:56,599
not easy simply because and it's not supposed to be

997
01:00:56,719 --> 01:00:59,480
this way. It's not supposed to be if you are

998
01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:02,639
I'm a president, if you are rich, if you are

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of the privilege you know class that you're supposed to

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get special treatment. You are not. And it is it's

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01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:17,800
said because these prosecutions need to move more expeditiously, they

1002
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:21,559
need to move with transparency. In that way, you're not

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going to see all of the fake information coming out,

1004
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:31,000
the misinformation, the disinformation, the malinformation. It's when the transparency

1005
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:36,079
is not it's not put forth. Is when people start

1006
01:01:36,119 --> 01:01:39,199
coming up with their own beliefs and then it gets

1007
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:46,039
you know, promoted by whatever news organization ascribes to that

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01:01:46,239 --> 01:01:49,760
specific belief, and that's where we have to be better.

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You know, there has to be transparency. You know, one

1010
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,280
of the things I talk about again in Revenge, and

1011
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,360
I talk about it regularly on this show and my

1012
01:01:57,719 --> 01:02:02,480
Maya Kulpa podcast. I have half a dozen Foyer requests

1013
01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:06,360
out there. I have yet to receive a single document

1014
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,840
from Foyer, despite the fact that they are obligated pursuing

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01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:16,599
to a judge's determination to have started providing or processing documents.

1016
01:02:16,639 --> 01:02:19,920
Since August twenty second of twenty twenty two, not a

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single document. And yet next week we have another follow

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01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,159
up with the judge, and I hope the judge really

1019
01:02:26,199 --> 01:02:29,079
gives it to them. But even if he does, so what,

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no one gives the shit. There's no accountability. We as Americans,

1021
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:39,000
we as the taxpayers in this country, we own those documents.

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The fact that you have to fight tooth and nail

1023
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,840
higher lawyers and so on in order to get information

1024
01:02:45,159 --> 01:02:47,320
so that I could bring it to you and that

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01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,679
we could be transparent as a nation, to me is

1026
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:54,679
fucking insane and it drives me batshit crazy. The fact

1027
01:02:54,679 --> 01:02:56,440
that you have to fight with your own government to

1028
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,679
get a document in order to prove that there was

1029
01:02:58,719 --> 01:03:02,199
an entire conspiracy within which to violate your First Amendment

1030
01:03:02,239 --> 01:03:06,480
constitutional rights, which in essence means let's shred the constitution

1031
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,199
that to me is fucking insane. And I will not stop,

1032
01:03:10,239 --> 01:03:12,599
I will not rest, And I ask you to stand

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01:03:12,679 --> 01:03:15,880
behind me, stand beside me, stand with me as we

1034
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:20,760
continue this fight in order to demand transparency by our government.

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I mean, I've now asked Damian Williams Southern District of

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New York. I have asked the federal government. I have

1037
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asked even Jim Jordan's Committee on the Weaponization of DJ

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I have asked everybody everyone to please. I mean, look

1039
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,360
at some of the people who have now already stood

1040
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,920
behind me or beside me. Take Hakim Jeffreys, Ted Lu,

1041
01:03:40,159 --> 01:03:44,519
Congressman Stevie Cohen, you have Senator Dick Durbin, a Congresswoman

1042
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,559
Carolyn Maloney who unfortunately is no longer there. You know,

1043
01:03:47,599 --> 01:03:51,079
there's a whole slew of people that want to see

1044
01:03:51,079 --> 01:03:54,079
these documents because that's the only way we're going to

1045
01:03:54,119 --> 01:03:58,360
find out who was involved in an unconstitutional remand of

1046
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,800
a US citizen, and that's to benefit and protect all

1047
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,880
of us. So stay with us. Our political beatdown Brigade.

1048
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:10,920
We are going to continue to bring you all the information, raw, unfiltered,

1049
01:04:11,119 --> 01:04:15,559
completely transparent and one hundred percent truthful and accurate.

1050
01:04:17,039 --> 01:04:23,039
Speaker 1: Love that the Brigade is strong. Indeed, Michael Cohen really

1051
01:04:23,079 --> 01:04:26,239
appreciate spending this time with you. And the big breaking

1052
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,480
news for those who just joined in at the end,

1053
01:04:28,519 --> 01:04:31,679
Michael Cohen will be speaking again for the sixteenth time

1054
01:04:32,159 --> 01:04:36,400
with the Manhattan District Attorney's Office this Thursday. That will

1055
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,519
be happening this week. Go back to the beginning where

1056
01:04:39,599 --> 01:04:45,840
Michael announced it exclusively here on the Political Beatdown, but everybody,

1057
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,440
that was the big news if you are just joining

1058
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,840
right now. Cohen, we covered a lot of topics for

1059
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:56,400
the next political Beatdown because these all these air Tuesdays

1060
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:02,159
and Thursdays live nine am twelve Eastern. But for this

1061
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,039
Thursday is because you are going in to speak with

1062
01:05:05,079 --> 01:05:08,920
the Manhattan District Attorney's Office around the same time of

1063
01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:11,960
when the Beatdown would take place, and I think in

1064
01:05:12,039 --> 01:05:15,360
general our audience would like it more to kind of

1065
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,880
hear as much as you can provide, and we know

1066
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,000
you're definitely limited and what you can talk about, but

1067
01:05:21,079 --> 01:05:24,280
we will do our show after you return and we

1068
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,440
will go live immediately, so if there's any break news

1069
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:31,119
you can share great and we certainly respect though the

1070
01:05:31,199 --> 01:05:36,039
limitations on everything there. It's a very very serious investigation

1071
01:05:36,559 --> 01:05:40,119
by a top team of lawyers there, and everyone wants

1072
01:05:40,119 --> 01:05:44,519
accountability and everybody wants it to be handled the correct way. Cohen,

1073
01:05:44,559 --> 01:05:47,559
as always, it's a pleasure. Make sure you check out

1074
01:05:47,599 --> 01:05:50,679
Cohen's book Revenge. If you haven't bought it yet, make

1075
01:05:50,719 --> 01:05:54,159
sure you buy it right now. Revenge by Michael Cohen.

1076
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,079
If you really want to see how Trump weaponized the

1077
01:05:57,119 --> 01:06:00,360
Department of Justice, you know these bullshit commits. He's on

1078
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:04,840
weaponization though there's the real weaponization right here that Cohen

1079
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:09,079
talks about in this book, Revenge, and the title of

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01:06:09,119 --> 01:06:12,480
it was so prescient. Also check out store dot midas

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Go get that. Check out Cohen's other podcast, Maya Culpa.

1085
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It's great. If you're not subscribed to Maya Culpa, make

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