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<v Speaker 1>Streaming live on the Ihearts Radio AB. This is I

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<v Speaker 1>on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, welcome back to Ian the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're Jagin's allies that

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<v Speaker 2>we have Kobe with breaking.

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<v Speaker 3>News, breaking news from the sports world. San Antonio Spurs

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<v Speaker 3>all star Victor women Yama is expected to miss the

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<v Speaker 3>remainder of the season with a blood claw in his

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<v Speaker 3>right shoulder, but the Spurs were able to defeat the

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<v Speaker 3>Suns by score one.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw I don't know, you never know what's what's

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<v Speaker 4>true on on Twitter and stuff that somebody posted that

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<v Speaker 4>they put ten thousand dollars on Wemby to win Defensive

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<v Speaker 4>Player of the Year and then less than a day

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<v Speaker 4>later he's out for the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you it must have been the kod of Jacobs Dollins.

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<v Speaker 2>There's another one.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys out ten grand because you don't get you

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<v Speaker 4>don't get your.

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<v Speaker 2>Money back for that. So there is another.

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<v Speaker 4>At least when I do it, it's it's over five bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>You're and you're thinking, it's like ten thousand dollars. Gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>because I get I get a texture of you this week?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it this week? Oh you hit a two you

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<v Speaker 2>missed a two foot button? Just a bunch of them.

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<v Speaker 4>I had Kansas, I had Kansas against uh who did

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<v Speaker 4>they play on Saturday?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it b Yu? No, it wasn't me against BYU. Who

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<v Speaker 2>did they play? Maybe it was? Maybe it wasn't, but yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so funny. Bill, get it, Bill, Bill. This is

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<v Speaker 2>not a you problem. It's a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Connor McDavid scores o t winner for Canada to secure

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<v Speaker 3>four Nations title.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys, I guess everybody. I didn't watch all everybody

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<v Speaker 4>watched a stage. There were millions of people watching it.

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<v Speaker 4>I was out, I was out of dinner with my wife.

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<v Speaker 4>But I got home, raced into the house because they

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<v Speaker 4>were going into the in the overtime, and I turned

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<v Speaker 4>it on. I was glued to the teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what the hell is going on? I

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<v Speaker 2>do know. I know enough, I know enough hockey to

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<v Speaker 2>know what's going on. But I knew what how big

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<v Speaker 2>a deal this was. I did what. I watched the

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<v Speaker 2>last USA Canada game and this that's that's I remember.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw that one as well, so I was excited

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<v Speaker 4>to see it, and you know, I got home and

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<v Speaker 4>I were right there. And here's the Here's what I

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<v Speaker 4>love about this is that this is a this is

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<v Speaker 4>a mid season event. You know, they take take time

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<v Speaker 4>off from the regular season to play. And unlike our

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<v Speaker 4>friends at the NBA who don't give one crap about

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<v Speaker 4>about the All Star Game, these guys played these games

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<v Speaker 4>like they were life and death.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know if they can never fix the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't. They can't.

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<v Speaker 4>They can't because those guys are are are They're they're

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<v Speaker 4>spoiled brats. They make too much money and they're not

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<v Speaker 4>going to risk themselves to get to give everything they

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<v Speaker 4>have for a game.

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<v Speaker 2>The way these hockey players do.

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<v Speaker 4>But these hockey players, they make a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 4>they don't even do that in the regular season. And

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<v Speaker 4>the sport they play is way more likely to bring

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<v Speaker 4>you an injury than running up and down the court

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<v Speaker 4>in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>What was you over under in the fights? Did you

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<v Speaker 2>watch it all?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I watched it a few. I don't think there was

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<v Speaker 3>one fight, but there was chippiness. Okay, the first game,

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<v Speaker 3>there was a lot of what you three fights in

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<v Speaker 3>nine seconds?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's crazy, but it was. It's fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 4>You just love when you see guys competing like that,

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<v Speaker 4>and especially competing when in the grand scheme of things,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not really their job, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Number thirteen Arizona softball sweeps opening day at Helle Brown Invitational.

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<v Speaker 3>The Wildcats picked up wins against number eighteen Stanford and

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're playing well, they're doing That's what they need

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<v Speaker 2>to be doing right before the conference. Just keep just

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<v Speaker 2>keep winning games and keep playing well.

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<v Speaker 3>Arizona men's tennis to host San Diego in top fifteen matchup.

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<v Speaker 2>There was San Diego thirteen or something.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe they are thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Arizona thirteen, San Diego seven. Oh yes they fell.

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<v Speaker 4>This is tennis, right, yeah, yeah, Ben Tennis, right, yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>They won the doubles and then they won the first

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I had the graphic I saw on Twitter s

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona thirt. What did I tell you last year when

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<v Speaker 2>we had the coach shieldfields, right, best coach be the

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<v Speaker 2>best coach on campus.

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<v Speaker 3>The Jacksonville. Jacksonville Jaguars have hired former Los Angeles Rams

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<v Speaker 3>personal executive James Gladstone as the team's new general manager.

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<v Speaker 3>The team announced Friday.

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<v Speaker 4>I you know, these guys had They've got big decisions

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<v Speaker 4>to make always, so we'll see how that goes for

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<v Speaker 4>the Jags.

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<v Speaker 3>Dodgers Bobby Miller has no fracture after being struck with

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<v Speaker 3>a one hundred and five.

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<v Speaker 4>I did, I did. He took a and the line

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<v Speaker 4>drive right on the head, right on the forehead. The

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<v Speaker 4>thing is, you know, he he went down immediately, got

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<v Speaker 4>up on one knee. You know, he was holding his head,

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<v Speaker 4>but he walked off and the whole bit. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>a glancing blow. You know, it was a direct hit.

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<v Speaker 4>And the first spring, first spring training game, he gets nailed.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it made me think, Okay, when a when a

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<v Speaker 4>picture's gonna start wearing bagging.

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<v Speaker 2>Helmets on the mound, like yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>New York Yankees getting rid of decades old facial hair policy.

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<v Speaker 4>I can make the tea, they said, nicely groomed, though,

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<v Speaker 4>you got to put some edges on that thing. You

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<v Speaker 4>can't just have a couple of hairs here, A couple

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<v Speaker 4>of hairs there, right, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you talking about? That's like yours a little patch?

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<v Speaker 2>I actually shaved it. I do it once a week.

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<v Speaker 3>NFL invests getting still investigating allegations versus Justin Tucker.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, another guy man.

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<v Speaker 4>Plus he's been he's been my he's been my fantasy

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<v Speaker 4>kicker for like five years. I'm gonna have to kick

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<v Speaker 4>him off my team. Yeah for unbecoming I'm becoming. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm becoming up a Gonzales Worthy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it for today's breaking news.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I want I want to, I want to. I

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<v Speaker 4>My my niece sole Ponce her her mom Stephanie, is

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<v Speaker 4>the principal at at Sunnyside Wrestling in the Sunnyside Right

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<v Speaker 4>Wrestling for Sundayside at the state championships up in Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 4>She's won her first two matches. She's twenty six and

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<v Speaker 4>oh and she's going up in the semi finals against

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<v Speaker 4>a wrestler who's thirty nine and one, so that should

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<v Speaker 4>be a hell of a fight. But she's trying to

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<v Speaker 4>win a state championship. It's her senior year. She's in

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and thirty eight pounds, class and trying to

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<v Speaker 4>get after it. She's undefeated, so let's see what happens.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, Sunnyside is usual, uh you know, dominating

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<v Speaker 2>But I want to gives so let a shout outs

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<v Speaker 2>of good luck to her. Yeah. I think Sunnyside Soccer,

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<v Speaker 2>the great soccer team that they had this year, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best in the country. Lost a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>days ago.

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<v Speaker 4>To depend It was a controversial, uh controversial thing reading

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<v Speaker 4>and reading Javia Morale's report on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, the lost two to one in overtime and

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<v Speaker 2>the goal that was scored was yeah, questionable that. I

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<v Speaker 2>think the women, the women, the girls at sell Point

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<v Speaker 2>are still alive in the open, so there's a still

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of success.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and then the sell Point boys dropped to the

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<v Speaker 4>right where they'll probably win it again for the thirty

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<v Speaker 4>thousand times. Yeah, God, what else? What else was I

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<v Speaker 4>was I going to throw out there? I've lost it.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't remember, Steve, you know how that goes?

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<v Speaker 2>Call that Tuesday Friday today.

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<v Speaker 4>It's something I was going to make a point of

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<v Speaker 4>bringing up. But uh, I'm just reading down here. I

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<v Speaker 4>see that the Michigan's signed their basketball coach to a

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<v Speaker 4>new contract.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's not going to go to Dusk. He may

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<v Speaker 2>won't be going to Indiana.

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<v Speaker 4>You see, patin Oaks came out and said that they

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<v Speaker 4>should go get Chris Beard. And then and then there

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<v Speaker 4>was some speculation that that Doug mc cronan would be

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<v Speaker 4>a candidate. If they put up with Bobby Knight, they

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<v Speaker 4>could put up with mc cronan. Chris Beard would his

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<v Speaker 4>stuff on from the from the game the other day

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<v Speaker 4>where not only did he rip his players, he ripped

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<v Speaker 4>the fans.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because because they're just Chris, they're having a bad,

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<v Speaker 4>a bad, a bad impact on his team.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Beard would be fantastic and Indiana. He's a heck

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<v Speaker 2>of a good coach and he went what he went

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<v Speaker 2>through in Texas Tech. Yeah, but did you see And

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about this. I had Pat Nuchan on yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>and we talked about this, and I think you can

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<v Speaker 2>agree to this because we haven't really told you and

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't talked about it. But uh, coaches not going

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<v Speaker 2>out high school kids anymore, right, because why are you

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<v Speaker 2>gonna trust an eighteen nineteen year old coming in when

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<v Speaker 2>you can get a transfer. It's already been there, done, ripped.

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<v Speaker 4>Patino flat said, we're not recruiting high school players anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>And then it came out that that Dion Sanders didn't

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<v Speaker 4>take one recruiting trip and didn't make any m home business.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's that's his h This is why should I

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<v Speaker 2>go there? They want to come to my home?

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<v Speaker 4>Somebody was somebody reported that he had a two hundred

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<v Speaker 4>thousand dollars travel budget for recruiting and he spent zero.

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<v Speaker 2>So where does that go? I don't know. I know

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<v Speaker 2>they'll put it on red or something. It goes to

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<v Speaker 2>my contract. If I don't spend any money on this,

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<v Speaker 2>do I get to keep it? Just to close the

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<v Speaker 2>loop on this.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, Arizona Tennis did sweep San Diego actually their number fourteen,

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<v Speaker 4>uh beating them four zepp It was almost fourteen, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>and San Diego was seven and beat them for nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>They have to they didn't have to finish the other

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<v Speaker 2>three matches. Arizona was number ten before. Wonder how they

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<v Speaker 2>feel whatever? Okay, oh anything else?

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<v Speaker 3>We're good, Yeah, we're good.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, fort eleven we're gonna have Who would do what

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<v Speaker 2>we say, Oh Cleio? Oh clear, So let's let's take

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<v Speaker 2>a breakdown and get a hold of Clio and talk

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<v Speaker 2>about his great career.

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, You're Jay Gonzalez. You

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<v Speaker 4>And when A long time ago nineteen seventy, No, nineteen eighty.

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<v Speaker 4>I got a summer job working at the Juvenile Court

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<v Speaker 2>Then hold out, he's on the phone after Cleo is issue.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, it is Cleo.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, this is Steve and j we've had you on

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<v Speaker 2>the show before. We're doing fine. Thank you. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the last time we had you on was Jean was

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<v Speaker 2>on your great accomplishment. Did you you just hear Jay

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<v Speaker 2>you remember where we met? Cleo?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I didn't hear you, and I no, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>You were a young probation officer at the juvenile court

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<v Speaker 4>So you guys used to we were right by the

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<v Speaker 2>How long were you all right? How long were your probation?

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<v Speaker 5>How long were you were you with the summer just

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<v Speaker 2>I just worked for I was. I was filling in

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<v Speaker 2>for the summer, Cleo. I thought he was going to say,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't. I wasn't you know, a probation er. How

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<v Speaker 5>Six years?

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<v Speaker 2>So so now we're calling you to see congratulations on

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<v Speaker 2>what a great career you had as a referee. He

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<v Speaker 2>an official? What made you decide to do it? How

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<v Speaker 2>many times? How many years did you do it?

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<v Speaker 5>I did it for forty seven years. I had a

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<v Speaker 5>for officials they met every Monday night. He would come

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<v Speaker 4>That was a good one, exactly exactly. So well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>When we have officials like you, guys, I asked as

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<v Speaker 2>the question all the time when you're watching the game,

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to see it when he made that move.

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<v Speaker 5>It was very difficult.

429
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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think of all of all the players you saw,

430
00:20:47.240 --> 00:20:49.000
<v Speaker 4>and that I mean a lot of us think the

431
00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:51.440
<v Speaker 4>same thing, right, one of the greatest players we ever

432
00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:55.160
<v Speaker 4>saw play, a guy like Reggie Bush.

433
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<v Speaker 2>Who's who are there? Who are some others? That stick

434
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<v Speaker 2>out for you.

435
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<v Speaker 5>You know it's there. There's been so many, you know,

436
00:21:01.640 --> 00:21:03.319
<v Speaker 5>like the running back I can't think of his name

437
00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:06.359
<v Speaker 5>of the short guy had two names. He was tremendous.

438
00:21:06.759 --> 00:21:11.599
<v Speaker 4>Uh uh uh uh Maurice Jones Drew.

439
00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:15.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, the guy he was Yeah, you know, you

440
00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:19.319
<v Speaker 5>know I'm bad with name. That's why I'm kind of hesitating.

441
00:21:19.640 --> 00:21:22.400
<v Speaker 5>But great running back at that Stanford.

442
00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

443
00:21:24.599 --> 00:21:26.599
<v Speaker 5>I can go through a lot, you know, like the

444
00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:29.000
<v Speaker 5>quarterback that was that organ you know and stuff like that.

445
00:21:29.240 --> 00:21:33.240
<v Speaker 5>There's a and the uh ul a quarterback, right, you

446
00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:35.759
<v Speaker 5>know all these guys you know, you you you see him,

447
00:21:36.039 --> 00:21:38.400
<v Speaker 5>but you don't get emotional attached to these guys, you

448
00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:40.920
<v Speaker 5>know any kind of ways. Like guys really amendous. You know,

449
00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:43.279
<v Speaker 5>you just have to call your call it game the way.

450
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<v Speaker 3>You see it.

451
00:21:43.680 --> 00:21:45.799
<v Speaker 2>And the funny thing about us, you related to one

452
00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:47.759
<v Speaker 2>of the better ones, one of the best ones that

453
00:21:47.799 --> 00:21:48.319
<v Speaker 2>come out of there.

454
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<v Speaker 4>Let me ask you that you see you see bijon play,

455
00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:54.960
<v Speaker 4>does he remind you of anybody that you saw, you know

456
00:21:55.039 --> 00:21:56.319
<v Speaker 4>during your refereeing career.

457
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<v Speaker 5>You know he really Reggie Bush a lot, he watched

458
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<v Speaker 5>him an awful lot. Uh. Reggie was just a little

459
00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:12.799
<v Speaker 5>bit more. Well, it's something that I told him that

460
00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:15.640
<v Speaker 5>I noticed about Reggie Bush. Reggie didn't do it dipping

461
00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:18.480
<v Speaker 5>and dabbing. He just cut and go. That's what John

462
00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:20.680
<v Speaker 5>does a lot. Now. He just if I got some

463
00:22:20.799 --> 00:22:23.359
<v Speaker 5>things to go, I might give you something, but I'm

464
00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:26.480
<v Speaker 5>gonna plant and go and get get away from you

465
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<v Speaker 5>as quickly as I can. And he's very good at that.

466
00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:33.839
<v Speaker 5>I would say, Reggie Bush, you know, uh, there's some similarity.

467
00:22:34.039 --> 00:22:36.279
<v Speaker 5>I think Reggie is a little fashion than him. But

468
00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:39.720
<v Speaker 5>other than that, you know, they they there's something similarity there.

469
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<v Speaker 2>You probably couldn't be more proud of beyond than anybody

470
00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:46.960
<v Speaker 2>in the country. I mean, come on, of what he's done.

471
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<v Speaker 5>That is very very true. I guess there's an instagram

472
00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:58.799
<v Speaker 5>that came out today that some organization I think was

473
00:22:58.839 --> 00:23:02.079
<v Speaker 5>Pro Football Focus something like that ranked him as the

474
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<v Speaker 5>number two running back in the in the in the league,

475
00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:11.559
<v Speaker 5>and that which was holly above sa One Barkley. So

476
00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:14.039
<v Speaker 5>I thought, boy, this is something to minutes. He was

477
00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:18.960
<v Speaker 5>second behind Derrick Henry and and and so uh and

478
00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:22.240
<v Speaker 5>Jaric Henry is a specimen in himself, you know, but

479
00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:24.640
<v Speaker 5>you know, he's very proud of him, you know, as

480
00:23:24.680 --> 00:23:29.799
<v Speaker 5>you know, John lived with us. When his mother got

481
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<v Speaker 5>married again, he decided he want to stay here. And

482
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<v Speaker 5>I guess he married a gentleman, the great guy that

483
00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:40.559
<v Speaker 5>had two kids and she had one and so but

484
00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:43.279
<v Speaker 5>John thought, Hey, I seen him with my grandparents. I

485
00:23:43.359 --> 00:23:47.480
<v Speaker 5>have my own room and everything. And I think that

486
00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:49.839
<v Speaker 5>was good for him because I was able to afford

487
00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:51.960
<v Speaker 5>to take him to the camps and stuff like that

488
00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:54.400
<v Speaker 5>and get him into South Point and things like that,

489
00:23:54.440 --> 00:23:56.559
<v Speaker 5>which which turned out to be the best thing for it.

490
00:23:58.039 --> 00:24:01.000
<v Speaker 5>And also we worked out a lot. We were doing

491
00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:02.880
<v Speaker 5>the ball a lot, doing a lot of things together.

492
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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, we know that he's you know, obviously

493
00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:08.559
<v Speaker 4>comes from a special family you know of yours as

494
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<v Speaker 4>as you know, sort of sort of a mentor for him.

495
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<v Speaker 4>What what's been some of the advice that you've given

496
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<v Speaker 4>him to make sure that one, you know, he takes

497
00:24:17.599 --> 00:24:21.559
<v Speaker 4>care of himself and two that to understand, you know,

498
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<v Speaker 4>what it takes to be successful at the level that

499
00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:25.319
<v Speaker 4>he's at.

500
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<v Speaker 2>What were you able to provide him as far as

501
00:24:27.599 --> 00:24:28.039
<v Speaker 2>that goes?

502
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<v Speaker 14>Uh?

503
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<v Speaker 5>You know, one thing is focus, you know, just what

504
00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:36.799
<v Speaker 5>you want to be focused on that, you know, and

505
00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:38.359
<v Speaker 5>he did you know. You know, there's a number of

506
00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:40.440
<v Speaker 5>times I felt, you know, but John, why don't you

507
00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:42.720
<v Speaker 5>run track or why don't you play basketball? And he's

508
00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:47.200
<v Speaker 5>atlantic to do that, and he he all his attention

509
00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:50.640
<v Speaker 5>went toward him playing playing football because of the love

510
00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:54.440
<v Speaker 5>of it. Attitude, have the right attitude, you know, Uh,

511
00:24:54.640 --> 00:25:00.359
<v Speaker 5>don't be flashy or both you brag a by yourself

512
00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:03.559
<v Speaker 5>and stuff like that. I told him that, you know,

513
00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:06.000
<v Speaker 5>if you want a bag, you talk to me, and

514
00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:09.640
<v Speaker 5>we do talk and he does things like that. But

515
00:25:09.799 --> 00:25:12.839
<v Speaker 5>when you cross that line, you be another person, you know,

516
00:25:13.240 --> 00:25:16.279
<v Speaker 5>concentration and the commission yourself and and and work as

517
00:25:16.319 --> 00:25:19.119
<v Speaker 5>hard as you can. Uh, that's all down the line

518
00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:21.400
<v Speaker 5>of being a nice guy too. We have that he

519
00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:24.200
<v Speaker 5>has a strong Christian background, so that that was kind

520
00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:26.359
<v Speaker 5>of easy to do. You know. One of the things,

521
00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:29.079
<v Speaker 5>though I know other payers have done it, is as official.

522
00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:32.720
<v Speaker 5>One time he did something that I said, from now, buddy,

523
00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:35.079
<v Speaker 5>you give that ball to the nearest official. And he'll

524
00:25:35.079 --> 00:25:36.640
<v Speaker 5>try and do that. Most of the time. Now in

525
00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:39.119
<v Speaker 5>the NFL he doesn't do that, but uh, in college,

526
00:25:39.160 --> 00:25:41.039
<v Speaker 5>he definitely did. In high school, he definitely did it

527
00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:41.559
<v Speaker 5>all the time.

528
00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:44.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, let's go back to you real quick. I

529
00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:46.039
<v Speaker 2>can't remember how old you are. You can tell us

530
00:25:46.039 --> 00:25:47.799
<v Speaker 2>if you want. But you did this a long time,

531
00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:50.400
<v Speaker 2>you said, forty some years. You're still not stopping though,

532
00:25:50.400 --> 00:25:53.480
<v Speaker 2>You're still going to continue on, just at a different level.

533
00:25:54.799 --> 00:25:59.279
<v Speaker 5>Yes, that's correct. H I just stopped doing the high school. Uh.

534
00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:03.160
<v Speaker 5>There's a lot of middle school basketball going on, and

535
00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:06.559
<v Speaker 5>I decided I'll just continue doing that. I you know,

536
00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:09.839
<v Speaker 5>one of the reasons I officiated is to help me

537
00:26:09.880 --> 00:26:11.720
<v Speaker 5>stay in shape, you know, run up and down the floor.

538
00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:14.920
<v Speaker 5>Of these younger guys will teach me in good shape.

539
00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:18.160
<v Speaker 5>So that's why I decided I'll continue doing the middle

540
00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:21.519
<v Speaker 5>school basketball. And there's just sometimes some tournament might come

541
00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:24.640
<v Speaker 5>along I might get invouved in. And by the way,

542
00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:26.319
<v Speaker 5>it's one of my age. I have no problem with that.

543
00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:27.200
<v Speaker 5>I'm seventy eight.

544
00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:29.240
<v Speaker 2>Now, fantastic.

545
00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:31.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying, holy coltum that I can't believe you

546
00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:33.880
<v Speaker 4>that all. It's just like you're still running up and

547
00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:35.720
<v Speaker 4>down the floor because you still have to run up

548
00:26:35.720 --> 00:26:38.559
<v Speaker 4>and down the floor in middle school basketball, right.

549
00:26:39.240 --> 00:26:43.599
<v Speaker 5>That is correct. It's correct even more so there because

550
00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:47.119
<v Speaker 5>that game is really wild, you know, and regularly high

551
00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:49.599
<v Speaker 5>school games, there's a lot of control in the game.

552
00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:51.359
<v Speaker 5>In middle school a lot of time, there's a lot

553
00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:53.799
<v Speaker 5>of little things going on and you want to be there.

554
00:26:54.599 --> 00:26:56.720
<v Speaker 5>And I'm with middle school. A lot of times when

555
00:26:56.759 --> 00:26:59.680
<v Speaker 5>I call something or they do something wrong, I tell

556
00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:02.160
<v Speaker 5>that player what he did wrong. I see that as

557
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:04.839
<v Speaker 5>a learning stage for for for the young players.

558
00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:07.000
<v Speaker 2>So we had we had a ref. I don't know, Jay,

559
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:08.839
<v Speaker 2>maybe a year or so ago, maybe a year and

560
00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:12.319
<v Speaker 2>a half ago, because today's I want you to say

561
00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:15.759
<v Speaker 2>this or or just your perspective on how difficult it

562
00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:18.079
<v Speaker 2>is to be a ref because of the people in

563
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:22.559
<v Speaker 2>the stands, parents, the parents, and the just kind of like,

564
00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:24.680
<v Speaker 2>you don't ref, you don't know what the hell and

565
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:26.440
<v Speaker 2>it's been going on for a long time. How did

566
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:27.359
<v Speaker 2>you deal with that?

567
00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:32.119
<v Speaker 5>You know, I think it takes a special person to

568
00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:34.960
<v Speaker 5>do that. You know, I kind of block it out.

569
00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:38.799
<v Speaker 5>I try and concentrate what's in front of me and

570
00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:41.440
<v Speaker 5>not what's behind me. Even with coaches, you know, a

571
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:44.119
<v Speaker 5>lot of times, though they say something, I'll get over

572
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:46.839
<v Speaker 5>closer to them. They don't have their stay and just say, coach,

573
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:48.599
<v Speaker 5>I'll take a look at it, or I missed that,

574
00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:50.960
<v Speaker 5>or something down that line. But I try to block

575
00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:55.000
<v Speaker 5>out the outside sources. Uh. I don't want to brag,

576
00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:57.119
<v Speaker 5>but they're the saying if you call a good game,

577
00:27:57.160 --> 00:27:58.119
<v Speaker 5>you don't have to worry about it.

578
00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:01.799
<v Speaker 2>Did you of all the time? I'm sure you can

579
00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:04.400
<v Speaker 2>count the number of people you you teed up or

580
00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:05.880
<v Speaker 2>throughout in your career.

581
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:11.720
<v Speaker 5>Uh, there's some I technical. There's one that's a good

582
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:15.559
<v Speaker 5>friend of mine, now Jim Flannery and uh uh sell Point.

583
00:28:16.200 --> 00:28:19.799
<v Speaker 5>He was kind of stup red. He was at south

584
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:23.839
<v Speaker 5>point of me saying Sunnyside. Now, those are the guys

585
00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:26.240
<v Speaker 5>I did here with the technical and and you know,

586
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:29.480
<v Speaker 5>even like one time with Red he called me over,

587
00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:31.440
<v Speaker 5>you want to talk to me, and I walked over

588
00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:34.119
<v Speaker 5>to him. I take coach, if you make any count, yes,

589
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:36.640
<v Speaker 5>some mean she would have taken and he crossed his

590
00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:39.759
<v Speaker 5>arm around his body down. Okay, just talk to you

591
00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:43.079
<v Speaker 5>so you uh so you know you you have to

592
00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:44.799
<v Speaker 5>learn how to deal with coach is the best way

593
00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:47.839
<v Speaker 5>you can. You know. I can tell you, guys a

594
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:52.400
<v Speaker 5>really funny story you have the time you have, Okay,

595
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:56.200
<v Speaker 5>Lorenzo Cotton, he was the one to got me into officiating,

596
00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:59.240
<v Speaker 5>and we were a roommate and I think my development

597
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:02.960
<v Speaker 5>was Be called said will make be. We compare things

598
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:04.880
<v Speaker 5>out the game to come home and we talk about

599
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:07.279
<v Speaker 5>rules and stuff like that. But a lot of time

600
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:10.319
<v Speaker 5>people mistake me for him and he for me. But

601
00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:12.319
<v Speaker 5>he just shared a game one time and he came

602
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:14.839
<v Speaker 5>home and he said, uh, Cleo, let me tell you

603
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:18.200
<v Speaker 5>what happened today. He said, he threw out both coaches

604
00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:22.240
<v Speaker 5>and a number of fans out of the gym. He

605
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:24.440
<v Speaker 5>just threw them all out. I said, wow, we had

606
00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:27.279
<v Speaker 5>a rough game. He said, no, the whole game. They

607
00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:28.279
<v Speaker 5>was calling me Cleo.

608
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:32.279
<v Speaker 2>No, you didn't kill.

609
00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:36.119
<v Speaker 5>You in trouble.

610
00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:41.960
<v Speaker 4>But were there ever any coaches that you just couldn't

611
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:45.000
<v Speaker 4>deal with or you dreaded working their games or anything.

612
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:46.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to ask you to name them, but

613
00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:48.559
<v Speaker 4>you know, were there some personalities out there that you

614
00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:50.920
<v Speaker 4>just would rather not have to deal with?

615
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:57.680
<v Speaker 5>You know, there are some games and you're right. I

616
00:29:57.720 --> 00:29:59.920
<v Speaker 5>don't want to say his name, but he was all

617
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.599
<v Speaker 5>always He just ran his mouth all the time. You know,

618
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:05.480
<v Speaker 5>you get to the point, like I said, Black and Milet,

619
00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:07.880
<v Speaker 5>but you get to the point where it gets it

620
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:11.599
<v Speaker 5>just gets on your nerves, right. But you know, I

621
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:14.480
<v Speaker 5>and I particular, this one particular game. It was a

622
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:18.720
<v Speaker 5>big game. His team was undefeated, the opposing team was undefeated.

623
00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:21.400
<v Speaker 5>They both teams are in the same neighborhood. I saw,

624
00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:25.160
<v Speaker 5>it's the big rivery game, and we talked the ball

625
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:29.279
<v Speaker 5>and he medi he started talking and the first time out,

626
00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:32.599
<v Speaker 5>not the time out doing player was free thrown. I

627
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:34.720
<v Speaker 5>wasn't stand in front of him, and I said, this

628
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:36.319
<v Speaker 5>is a big game, and I do not want to

629
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:38.279
<v Speaker 5>hear staying from you if you want to stay in

630
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:41.519
<v Speaker 5>this game, coach, and he shut up. Wow, you know,

631
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:44.440
<v Speaker 5>so you sometimes you kind of have to take charge

632
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:48.279
<v Speaker 5>of the situation. But yeah, but I every time I

633
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:51.799
<v Speaker 5>saw him on my schedule, I thought, oh, man, I

634
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:52.559
<v Speaker 5>gotta deal with this.

635
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:55.000
<v Speaker 2>So clearly. I know you're still going to be doing

636
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:56.960
<v Speaker 2>stuff at the lower level, at the junior high level,

637
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<v Speaker 2>but but you've done this so long. Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, you know, when you do something for forty seven years,

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<v Speaker 5>it becomes a part of your life, you know. Even

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<v Speaker 5>when I came home and my wife is at the game,

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<v Speaker 5>he left and so forth, and I thought, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not gonna do this anymore. And even when I was

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<v Speaker 5>walking off the floor. It hit me there. I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>gonna do this anymore. I'm sure in time I'll be okay,

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<v Speaker 5>but right now, like when I stopped doing the Pac

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<v Speaker 5>twelve football, I missed it for a couple of years,

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<v Speaker 5>but I had other things to do. I could go

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<v Speaker 5>see but John play every game game compared to when

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<v Speaker 5>I was doing Pac ten football. Uh, PAC twelve, I

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<v Speaker 5>could not. I only saw him playing like two or

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<v Speaker 5>three times during the season.

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<v Speaker 4>When you see what college athletics is now, particularly football,

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<v Speaker 4>right with nil and these quarterbacks, you know, college quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 4>now who are making millions of dollars now they're essentially

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<v Speaker 4>professional athletes. Would you have liked to still be doing

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<v Speaker 4>this with guys you know who might maybe think a

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<v Speaker 4>little more of themselves than maybe they used to.

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<v Speaker 2>You think it's changed a bit.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you think you would have handled some of

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<v Speaker 4>that or would it be different?

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<v Speaker 5>You know that would not impact me at all because

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<v Speaker 5>you know that's administrative type stuff and off field type stuff,

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<v Speaker 5>so they wouldn't impact me. But I'll tell you if

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<v Speaker 5>I personally, I don't particularly care for it. My thinking

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<v Speaker 5>is he set amount that the most player can get. Periods.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, maybe fifty thousand dollars now that way, keep

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<v Speaker 5>it on it even until that way, keep there like

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<v Speaker 5>Arizona compete with Protections player for player. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 5>no way Arizona going to get that player, but he

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<v Speaker 5>might be able to get him a pay both compaying

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<v Speaker 5>fifty thousand. Now if he gets there and make a

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<v Speaker 5>name for himself and outside people give him somebody, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 5>But let's keep it even even for all teams to

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<v Speaker 5>be able to get that. And it bothers me, especially multiplayers.

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<v Speaker 5>They they don't know how to hell of.

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<v Speaker 2>Him money exactly, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, they just get there and they all of a

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<v Speaker 5>sudden they got to buy a big fancy card and

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<v Speaker 5>mess around. I think you lose the eye of the

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<v Speaker 5>tiger a lot of times when when something is given

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<v Speaker 5>to you too early.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're seeing there by the way, we got

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<v Speaker 2>to call. Uh, we'll take this call. It's Bejon saying

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to argue with you because he doesn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to just make me Lamborghini.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm a little contradicting myself here, but get them

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<v Speaker 5>And I was thinking, who.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly exactly? Maybe him money. I'll tell them to call later.

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<v Speaker 2>So one last question. Maybe you you you ripped for

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<v Speaker 2>this long. Obviously you must have seen high school personalities

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<v Speaker 2>and young kids personalities. Did they used to give you grief?

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<v Speaker 2>No grief, and now they gave you grief? How was

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<v Speaker 2>the personalities when they were calling when you'd call their games?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, for the most one ninety nine percent of

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<v Speaker 5>the players did not say too much. There was a

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<v Speaker 5>few that might have some comments that, uh, did you

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<v Speaker 5>have trouble dealing with and you try and get to

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<v Speaker 5>the I'm gonna tell the coach and you better get

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<v Speaker 5>this players under control because of all he's gonna do

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<v Speaker 5>is hurt your team. But now players come up and saying, uh,

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<v Speaker 5>telling about a call, and I'd just tell him I

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<v Speaker 5>was right then, and I'll call it the same way

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<v Speaker 5>to tell you if I had to do it right exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, cleo, we appreciate your time, Congratulations from this

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<v Speaker 2>career and keep you you know.

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<v Speaker 5>And thanks for the invite, Jay and Steete. When I

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<v Speaker 5>got to Tech, I didn't know where it was come

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<v Speaker 5>from because I just saw the phone number. But after

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<v Speaker 5>find out who it was from, out, oh yes, I

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<v Speaker 5>definitely do that.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, you know, I mean, you know, we you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if you have kids in town who were in Matthew

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<v Speaker 4>who were in sports, you know, I'm sure you called

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<v Speaker 4>a game.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I saw you over the years when I was,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, taking my kids through high school and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>So thank you because that's a that's a long time

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<v Speaker 4>to be doing what you did. And really we know

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<v Speaker 4>you didn't do it for the money. You did it

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<v Speaker 4>for the good of the kids. And that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm gonna say and I'm gonna say I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 2>because I always thought you were mister Carton.

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<v Speaker 5>That's good. Thank you man, that's great, Thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank god. One of one of the all time great

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<v Speaker 2>guys in athletics and two on sports, all time great guys. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that was fun. That was good. That was okay.

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<v Speaker 1>the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to all here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Steve Rivera, your Jay Donzalez, and we have Kobe

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<v Speaker 2>finishing out. We got about twelve minutes, two minutes, yeah

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<v Speaker 2>to finish. Anybody want to call, let us know what

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<v Speaker 2>you're thinkings game? Yep, you know. Do you have a spread? Yeh?

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<v Speaker 2>Look it up real quick. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's available yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Sometimes it's it's again.

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<v Speaker 4>But but on some of the bigger games, you do

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<v Speaker 4>get you do get the next day line.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, here it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Seven and a half seven wow, seven and a half,

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<v Speaker 4>seven and a half over under.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you do one and a half. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>would go over. I would go over seven and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I would do.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's that's why it's a good number. It's good, right,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't know which one to do. I think it

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<v Speaker 4>seems like a lot. It does, it does and and

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<v Speaker 4>b way you catches fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. They're in trouble, right, don't the wins this going away? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Their minus three twenty five on the money line, just

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<v Speaker 4>to win the.

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<v Speaker 2>Game to Don't tell me what you would you do,

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<v Speaker 2>because that just I don't know. I honestly I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what I would do. Okay, we just checked the

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<v Speaker 2>phones because just in case five two zero, four, one, six,

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<v Speaker 2>seventy four forty. But you know what, you know it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be fun. Did you have time to uh when

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<v Speaker 2>you're not doing your stats? Last game Houston? Looking up

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<v Speaker 2>and seeing this crowd, I was, you know, I was

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<v Speaker 2>a little disappointed in the upper level. Yes, that's where

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<v Speaker 2>exactly was going to go with it. It was still something.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't jammed. It wasn't It was great. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>was very good. And it was loud, now that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I meant. But it wasn't jammed. It wasn't jammed. There

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<v Speaker 2>was there were some empty seats up there, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>even know where those even the seats right but you

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<v Speaker 2>know to the left of us, just right here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there was that was a little I didn't see that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I did.

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<v Speaker 4>I did look up because I mentioned as we were

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<v Speaker 4>standing up for the national anthem, I said, man, it's

847
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:35.760
<v Speaker 4>still awful empty right, well, ten more minutes, I know,

848
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:39.079
<v Speaker 4>but still for ten minutes before the game. And again,

849
00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:44.199
<v Speaker 4>you know in Arizona, Arizona fan has to step up

850
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:47.079
<v Speaker 4>a little bit. When you go to Iowa State, when

851
00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:50.320
<v Speaker 4>you go to I think Texas Tech, you go to Kansas,

852
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:53.920
<v Speaker 4>the seats are full fifteen twenty minutes before game time.

853
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Even more now the Zonas who has been good.

854
00:41:56.239 --> 00:41:59.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but but you know the arena get you know,

855
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:02.880
<v Speaker 4>our fan, don't they get there at game time.

856
00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:05.880
<v Speaker 2>They've done that all they've always done that. You know,

857
00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:08.599
<v Speaker 2>go to the other arena. You know what it takes.

858
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:10.760
<v Speaker 4>What would it take is for you to visit an arena,

859
00:42:11.159 --> 00:42:13.239
<v Speaker 4>go to a go to a Kansas game, go to

860
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:15.840
<v Speaker 4>a Texas Tech, and go to a batter game. And

861
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:19.760
<v Speaker 4>those people are in their seats early, making noise, getting

862
00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:24.199
<v Speaker 4>the getting the getting the environment, you know, going all

863
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:24.719
<v Speaker 4>that stuff.

864
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:27.679
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I'm gonna use that transition. Okay, how can

865
00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:29.519
<v Speaker 2>I do that? If I if I you want me

866
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:31.679
<v Speaker 2>to travel to another school, but I got to pay

867
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:33.639
<v Speaker 2>a search charge on every ticket that I would. Oh,

868
00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:36.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'll let you know what. Okay, do you want?

869
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Do you want to win? So so you're happy with

870
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:41.840
<v Speaker 2>you're okay with it. I don't mind it. How many

871
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:43.440
<v Speaker 2>people you think are are not much.

872
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:45.239
<v Speaker 4>I know there's some that do mind it, you know,

873
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:47.239
<v Speaker 4>I know there's people who aren't gonna get taken. I'm

874
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:49.519
<v Speaker 4>not gonna pay another fifty bucks to give it to

875
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:50.360
<v Speaker 4>that kid over there.

876
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, this is the thing. In your group of ten

877
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:56.440
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, I'm sure at least half we're not happy. No,

878
00:42:57.239 --> 00:43:00.320
<v Speaker 2>that's that's that's wrong. They're all happy. They're all fine

879
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:02.960
<v Speaker 2>with it. I'm not gonna say they're happy. They're they're

880
00:43:03.159 --> 00:43:07.519
<v Speaker 2>hate or disconnected. They want to win and they other stand.

881
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that's going to help them win.

882
00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:13.519
<v Speaker 4>If it helps them get players, Yes, it's going to

883
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:14.039
<v Speaker 4>help them win.

884
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:15.400
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

885
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:19.199
<v Speaker 4>You know the so the fifty dollars surcharge per ticket,

886
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:23.159
<v Speaker 4>there's twenty twenty thousand season tickets. That's a million bucks

887
00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:26.519
<v Speaker 4>that you can go out and get players with to offset.

888
00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:28.480
<v Speaker 2>The twenty million. That's still not a lot to me.

889
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:33.719
<v Speaker 2>No it's not, but it's it's it's a way to

890
00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:37.480
<v Speaker 2>get everybody to commit to that and to be a

891
00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:39.360
<v Speaker 2>part of it, so that you're just not going to

892
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:43.840
<v Speaker 2>ask Bert Lopez or Jim Click or Edmund Marquez or

893
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:44.800
<v Speaker 2>somebody like that and say.

894
00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:47.320
<v Speaker 4>Here, give us a whole bunch of your money, you know,

895
00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:51.280
<v Speaker 4>Cole and Jeanie Davis or whatever, those those ones who

896
00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:53.960
<v Speaker 4>have names on the buildings and things like that. This

897
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:57.000
<v Speaker 4>is a this is where you know, somebody says, I'm

898
00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:57.760
<v Speaker 4>doing my part.

899
00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:00.880
<v Speaker 2>So do you think that coming years that there'll be

900
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:03.199
<v Speaker 2>season tickets will be up or down? I bet you

901
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:06.400
<v Speaker 2>they're down anybody. Yeah, but not only.

902
00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:11.440
<v Speaker 4>Because of the fifty dollars because the you know already

903
00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:13.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm you know, I already heard you know.

904
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:14.480
<v Speaker 2>You know.

905
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:17.239
<v Speaker 4>I talked to somebody who's involved in all that and said, yeah,

906
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:19.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, one of the first calls I got was, well,

907
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:21.599
<v Speaker 4>you guys aren't good enough for me to pay another

908
00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:24.079
<v Speaker 4>fifty bucks a ticket through not And I.

909
00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:26.559
<v Speaker 2>Get that too. I get that, you know, but you

910
00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:29.400
<v Speaker 2>got to win. If you win, people don't mind. You

911
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:32.000
<v Speaker 2>got a call maybe they'll talk about this. Hello, you're

912
00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:32.960
<v Speaker 2>on the airline of the ball.

913
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Hey, it's T money, T money.

914
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:41.599
<v Speaker 2>You spending money to money. Uh, I'll pay what I

915
00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:42.239
<v Speaker 2>have to pay.

916
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:46.639
<v Speaker 17>But I was thinking about this, and it might sound

917
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:49.480
<v Speaker 17>kind of corny, but maybe there's a good way to

918
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:53.159
<v Speaker 17>get the community involvement in that you have something where

919
00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:56.880
<v Speaker 17>pick or pick your favorite restaurant, whatever, whatever, any any

920
00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:59.639
<v Speaker 17>of these establishments, any of these local establishments where you

921
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:02.360
<v Speaker 17>have a fond name it whatever you want to name it.

922
00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:05.159
<v Speaker 14>Maybe it's a certain day or certain an opt in,

923
00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:09.679
<v Speaker 14>but you know, on top of your meal here at

924
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:12.360
<v Speaker 14>this place, there's a certain percentage that goes then to

925
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:17.119
<v Speaker 14>an il fund for University of Arizona, and that could

926
00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:19.400
<v Speaker 14>be you know across the city, and you know people

927
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:21.000
<v Speaker 14>can opt in, you know, like kind of how they

928
00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:24.280
<v Speaker 14>do with these different charities. But that was just something

929
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:26.239
<v Speaker 14>I've been kicking around, but I've never heard anybody talk

930
00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:27.639
<v Speaker 14>about it.

931
00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:29.440
<v Speaker 4>Yea, you know, there's God, They're going to have to

932
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:32.400
<v Speaker 4>create some ways, right and maybe that's you know, have

933
00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:34.400
<v Speaker 4>a u of a night and say, you know, we're

934
00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:37.559
<v Speaker 4>gonna put a three percent on your on your tab

935
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:39.159
<v Speaker 4>and that goes to an I l I could see

936
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:40.320
<v Speaker 4>I could see something like that.

937
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:43.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, some people don't give a call.

938
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:48.679
<v Speaker 18>Yeah, I mean, if it's marketed right, right, I think

939
00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:49.719
<v Speaker 18>people would would.

940
00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Love to feel like this.

941
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:52.400
<v Speaker 18>I mean, you're only going to have so many season

942
00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:55.760
<v Speaker 18>ticket holders, like just by definition, right, but you do

943
00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:58.679
<v Speaker 18>have a town of over a million, and and I

944
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:00.880
<v Speaker 18>would dare to say they're all they're all Cats.

945
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:02.480
<v Speaker 17>Fans, And if somebody could put something.

946
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:04.880
<v Speaker 14>Together that's biable, I think people would would literally buy in.

947
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I think Rady was trying to think about doing that. Hey,

948
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:08.559
<v Speaker 2>so was this the reason you called?

949
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:10.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

950
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:11.880
<v Speaker 11>That was it pretty much?

951
00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:16.199
<v Speaker 4>Okay, well it's actually a constructive suggestion, which that's the

952
00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:17.239
<v Speaker 4>kind of stuff we need.

953
00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:18.639
<v Speaker 2>Right. That's someone who just.

954
00:46:18.599 --> 00:46:21.079
<v Speaker 4>Saying I'm not paying another fifty bucks, get that out

955
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:22.079
<v Speaker 4>of here, you know.

956
00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:26.039
<v Speaker 18>Tell you what, I'm actually kind of open to this

957
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:29.440
<v Speaker 18>new tax that's coming across. Like I've never said this before,

958
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:32.719
<v Speaker 18>but it's kind of like, you know what, our city

959
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:34.880
<v Speaker 18>streets and all our infrastructure is.

960
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:38.440
<v Speaker 17>So bad that I'm kind of like, Okay, what have

961
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:40.440
<v Speaker 17>we got to do now? I don't know, maybe, uh,

962
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:42.320
<v Speaker 17>maybe you guys could run for office.

963
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:48.599
<v Speaker 4>Politics skeletons in the closet, team running skeletons in the closet,

964
00:46:48.840 --> 00:46:50.079
<v Speaker 4>you could be my pr.

965
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:52.280
<v Speaker 17>I mean maybe you can, maybe you can run for president.

966
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:56.159
<v Speaker 4>Then well yeah, that's right, Well those aren't those things

967
00:46:56.159 --> 00:46:56.840
<v Speaker 4>are out in the open.

968
00:46:56.880 --> 00:47:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I got it. Hey, only those hosts can be funny.

969
00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:03.599
<v Speaker 2>Don't do that again, thanks, man.

970
00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:06.199
<v Speaker 18>Hey, if the Cats don't win by ten, we suck.

971
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:06.599
<v Speaker 5>Come out.

972
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:17.599
<v Speaker 4>He's some people like that. They said, b yu. Do

973
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:20.079
<v Speaker 4>you guys remember a name Jimmer Fredett.

974
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:21.119
<v Speaker 2>That's all you need to know.

975
00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:24.280
<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of yeah, yeah, no there you know,

976
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:30.079
<v Speaker 4>you know again, getting back to that. Look, if you're

977
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:34.119
<v Speaker 4>complaining about it and they are, and they are they are,

978
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:37.920
<v Speaker 4>well then fine, you know, don't don't go to the games.

979
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:41.559
<v Speaker 4>But it's something that you know, I'm surprised it's fifty bucks.

980
00:47:41.719 --> 00:47:44.760
<v Speaker 4>This is for season ticket holders yet, right a season

981
00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:45.800
<v Speaker 4>ticket costs fifty dollars.

982
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:47.480
<v Speaker 2>So if I if I go just to get a

983
00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:51.519
<v Speaker 2>regular regular game ticket, that's not gonna right anyway, right.

984
00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:54.280
<v Speaker 4>Right, I'll tell you what I'm actually more upset about.

985
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:57.320
<v Speaker 4>You know, the chair backs that are you know that

986
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:00.440
<v Speaker 4>are installed. You know, we get two of those. Those

987
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:03.079
<v Speaker 4>went up thirty dollars. Those went up from fifty to

988
00:48:03.119 --> 00:48:04.480
<v Speaker 4>eighty dollars.

989
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:07.519
<v Speaker 2>And those are built into the Yeah, yeah, it's.

990
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:09.039
<v Speaker 4>So that you don't have to carry your own seat.

991
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:10.960
<v Speaker 4>And you know, you know, fat guy like me, I

992
00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:14.239
<v Speaker 4>got to have some back support. So so you know,

993
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:16.840
<v Speaker 4>my my wife and I get those and uh, and

994
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:17.599
<v Speaker 4>it's great to have.

995
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:19.559
<v Speaker 2>Those are the ones that you stick in there.

996
00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:22.320
<v Speaker 4>No, no, the ones that if you if you ever

997
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:23.960
<v Speaker 4>look at the stadium in the off season, you see

998
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:27.679
<v Speaker 4>a bunch of blue seats, it's those that they come in,

999
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:30.079
<v Speaker 4>they install them, they're there when you get there. You

1000
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:32.400
<v Speaker 4>don't have to carry anything in. Those went up from

1001
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:35.159
<v Speaker 4>fifty to eighty dollars. I'll give you one solution. Stop

1002
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:35.840
<v Speaker 4>being a fat guy.

1003
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:39.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm sixty five. My back, my back just

1004
00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:41.280
<v Speaker 2>sucks with them with a fat guy or skinny guy.

1005
00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:43.880
<v Speaker 2>But now, but you know, the price of football is

1006
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:45.719
<v Speaker 2>going up, the price of all ATHLETs is going up

1007
00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:48.199
<v Speaker 2>because they got to pay the play everywhere everyone. If

1008
00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:51.079
<v Speaker 2>you think, if you think I'm not going to do that,

1009
00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:53.079
<v Speaker 2>then you're just not You're not going to get to

1010
00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:54.760
<v Speaker 2>go to games right well, and that's just not a

1011
00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:57.639
<v Speaker 2>football that's in every sporty sport. They got to pay

1012
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:01.800
<v Speaker 2>these athletes in every sport. Here's an issue that I have.

1013
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:05.320
<v Speaker 2>I think the kids are are not getting they're getting paid, well,

1014
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:07.360
<v Speaker 2>not all of them, but they're getting paid. Well. I'm

1015
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:09.639
<v Speaker 2>sure they're getting paid more than me. I'm sure they're

1016
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:11.760
<v Speaker 2>getting paid more than you. How are they taking money

1017
00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:14.800
<v Speaker 2>from me when they're getting more money than me? Well,

1018
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:16.920
<v Speaker 2>because we don't get hit in the mouth. For one,

1019
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:19.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, I love watching game five days a week.

1020
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:22.280
<v Speaker 4>You know, we don't have to get up for training, table,

1021
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:25.719
<v Speaker 4>go to go, go lift, go to school.

1022
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:28.679
<v Speaker 2>Did you what did you become this apologist?

1023
00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:32.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm understanding. I'm understanding.

1024
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:36.239
<v Speaker 2>What did you start going to therapy? You know what?

1025
00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:39.119
<v Speaker 4>That's when I left the show. I thought this was

1026
00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:41.880
<v Speaker 4>your therapy. I left the show and all of a

1027
00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:50.199
<v Speaker 4>sudden stuff became real to me. But you know, Steve,

1028
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:52.639
<v Speaker 4>the price, you know the price of watching sports, And

1029
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:54.760
<v Speaker 4>you're right. Some people are going to say, well, then

1030
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:56.960
<v Speaker 4>you want, I'll just stay home and watch And that's

1031
00:49:57.239 --> 00:49:58.360
<v Speaker 4>what that's what that's like.

1032
00:49:58.400 --> 00:49:59.320
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna have to put up with.

1033
00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:02.320
<v Speaker 4>They're gonna have to do things like one, reduce coach

1034
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:05.920
<v Speaker 4>of salaries, right, yes, right, yes, reduce coach of salaries

1035
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:09.239
<v Speaker 4>things like that. Fix things so that Stanford and Cal

1036
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:11.199
<v Speaker 4>don't have to be going out to the East coast

1037
00:50:11.239 --> 00:50:14.679
<v Speaker 4>to play. Yeah right, stay within your region so travel

1038
00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:15.400
<v Speaker 4>costs are less.

1039
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Is that all? That? Is that realistic? Though? I'm talking

1040
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:21.000
<v Speaker 2>about the salaries of the coaches because that is growing

1041
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:22.960
<v Speaker 2>up opened.

1042
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:25.519
<v Speaker 4>That thing is open, and Niki, I was just hearing,

1043
00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:28.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, they're talking today about how I was listening

1044
00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:29.719
<v Speaker 4>to a podcast talking about who's on the hot seat

1045
00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:33.920
<v Speaker 4>in the you know, in the sec you know, football football,

1046
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:39.000
<v Speaker 4>you know Kaylin de boor Brian Kelly, you know that

1047
00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:41.000
<v Speaker 4>not so so much on the hot seat, but that

1048
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:43.519
<v Speaker 4>if they don't really But then talking about, well if

1049
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:46.440
<v Speaker 4>kaylen Borg gets fired after let's say in two years,

1050
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:48.280
<v Speaker 4>it's a sixty million dollar buyot, Well.

1051
00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Why did you give him that?

1052
00:50:49.559 --> 00:50:49.679
<v Speaker 5>Right?

1053
00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Right? And if he said I have to have that,

1054
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:55.159
<v Speaker 2>then you say we'll go get us another coach. Yeah,

1055
00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:58.760
<v Speaker 2>that's just not how it works. Well someone was one

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<v Speaker 2>of those it's going to have work like, pay him

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<v Speaker 2>twenty million dollars to get mediocre here too, exactly. So No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a it's not a it's a tough situation

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<v Speaker 2>all the way around. We gotta go, giving me that

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<v Speaker 2>we gotta go side. Thanks Jane for coming in. Hey

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<v Speaker 2>glad to be here again. This is fun. Let's doude

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<v Speaker 2>again next week. Fifty bucks, I can buy tickets extra ticket. Thanks,

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Kobe, whatever your name is, all right,