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Speaker 1: All right off of a weekend that has seen Joshua

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a light heavyweight made event in England. It has seen

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Lanier Pero, the Cuban heavyweight come to the United States

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and get a victory. It also saw really going into

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the weekend right before Halloween, MICHAELA. Mayer won another world title,

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this time at junior middleweight. We're going to recap all

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of that. We've got fight news and much more. Welcome

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in It is the Fight Freaks Unite recamp podcast. I

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am the somewhat capable host, TJ. Reeves. He is our insider,

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Big Dan Rayfield. Fight Freaks Unite is the substack and

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the newsletter.

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Speaker 2: My friend. Good to be with you, so much to

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go over.

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Speaker 1: We have survived Halloween excess candy in the Reeves household,

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Rayfield sending me pictures about all of your different candy

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loot that young Rayfhael had obtained, etc. Everybody survived, hopefully,

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everybody was saying, and I got to get the candy

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out of the house, like I'm saying to you every year,

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because I'm really the only one that eats it, and

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so I've got to get rid of it.

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Speaker 3: I've got to about just for the flex. My son

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comes home with a big bag of candy and running around.

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Then they left it here and he went out and

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got another big, big bag of candy bag.

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Speaker 2: Like a couple of pounds, Like a pound of candy

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Speaker 3: Bag several pounds. Ridiculous. But here's the flex. In my neighborhood,

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we always would get like a couple of these every year.

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There was people handing out the full bars, full string,

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full thing of Star Wars, the full kick cat, the

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full like bags of like we were not fulling cookies.

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Speaker 1: We were not fooling around. Yeah, full full candy is

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not fooling around. Club in the Rayfield neighborhood, Oh my gosh.

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Now we were handing out the assorted bite size and

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then we had like a separate patch of the of

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the sour patch and the airheads, and nobody in the

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house eats that.

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Speaker 2: So we got to get rid of that. So anyway,

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Speaker 3: A strong, strong recommendation if you don't it, but and

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we got to get rid of them because otherwise I'm

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gonna eat a few more than I should the watermelon.

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Sour pats are an absolute bomb. All right, watermelon, that's

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the flavor tremendous. So we actually you're.

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Speaker 1: Not posed watermelon, but the sour patches like straight sugar.

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You might as well just take a spoonful and such

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Speaker 3: That's the point. So we were giving out. We were

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getting out the kit kats, the sour patch assortment and

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uh some little gummy bear thing that that my son

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mus and by the way, must I must say, we

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had more kids this year than we've had in years.

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reason why because my wife put out on the front porch,

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put out on the on the ghost light. So there

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was this white light, and I was like, what the

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fuck is going on? Because I kept seeing it in

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my office through the through the shade. There was like

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she was like it was like the bat signal.

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Speaker 1: She was advertising like the bat signal. And by the way,

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my two, my two have now reached the stage at

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age seventeen. They did not dress up, they did not

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go out. They were handing out candy in our neighborhood.

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They were not feeling great either, twelve, So what was

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he dressed as real quick while we digress, and then

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Speaker 3: He was Bucky the Beaver.

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Speaker 1: Bucky the Beaver because in years gone by he's been

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various things from like super hero to various Okay, yeah, on.

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Speaker 3: That Halloween is still a big deal in the house.

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Speaker 2: I got you.

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Speaker 1: I realize that this is a boxing podcast. We are

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going to recap the fights, but you and I are

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humongous baseball fans. We're doing this Sunday night into Monday.

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My god, I had no rooting interest in Dodgers Blue Jays.

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But that is as crazy a game seven. I'm saying

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this as crazy dramatic a game seven in any sport

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that I can recall. We're not trying to be hyperbolic here,

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but you chime in, you're a big baseball guy. Oh yeah,

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you got the Yankees. You got no love for the

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Blue Jays who end up getting their hearts.

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Speaker 3: That's not true. First of all, all right, before I

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career as a sportswriter, I covered a lot of baseball.

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League Baseball, Saint Louis Cardinal Minor League Baseball, Independent League baseball.

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to cover the great Derek Jeter as a minor leaguer.

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That tells you how fucking old islandp So I'm a

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diehard baseball fan. Now, as far as my rooting interest

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and the Red Sox, so I have no love for

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the Dodgers. And although I'm not a Toronto Blue Jay

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fan per se because they play in the same division

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as my beloved New York Yankees, much respect to the

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Toronto Blue Jay is a great organization, I was rooting

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in a big time for them for a variety of reasons. One,

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I did not want to see the Dodgers become the

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first back to back champion since the Yankees went three

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in a row twenty five years ago. My favorite all

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time player when I was a kid was Don Mattingly,

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who's spent forty years in baseball, made the playoffs once

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in his final season as a Yankee, never made it

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to the World Series until this year as a bench

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coach for the Blue Jay so I was really hoping

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that Madameie would get the ring. But in the end,

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it was a fantastic World Series. I loved every minute

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of it. The Game seven drama was amazing. The Game

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three eighteen inning game. I watched all rail pitches of

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that game. Unrel incredible game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying on that Game seven trendous.

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I mean, I'll always be partial to Bird and the

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Celtics beating Magic and the Lakers for the first time

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in the Game seven and eighty four when I was

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Speaker 2: All Right, I'm partial that.

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Speaker 1: That game was not as dramatic as what we just

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saw on November the November.

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Speaker 2: The first into the second, twenty.

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Speaker 1: Twenty five into the second, basically late night Eastern time,

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where the where the Dodgers hit a home run in

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the top of the ninth of Game seven, with the

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Blue Jays two outs away from winning their first World

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Series in thirty plus years, the country of Canada is

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on edge and the guy him in As hits the

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home run to tie the game. But the basis then

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you have two plays in the bottom of the ninth inning,

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that either one of them are gonna win the game

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in Game seven to win the World Series, and you're

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gonna be known forever. And the Dodgers get the guy

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out of the plate by a toenail.

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Speaker 3: You could watch baseball another twenty years and not see

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a ball get wedged under the under the fence on

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a hard hit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But then the leaping catch with two outs in

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the bottom of the ninth like we dream about in

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the backyard of the driveway. Two outs in the bottom

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of the ninth and the leaping catch at the wall

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to preserve the World Series.

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Speaker 3: Knocked it where he knocked his teammates.

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Speaker 2: Own teammate over.

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Speaker 1: And then the goal ahead home run by the other

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Will Smith, not the famous Will Smith, the actor, This

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is the other la Will Smith. And then the the

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Blue Jays are threatening in the last inning, and the

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Japanese reliever that they paid like some billion dollars Yamamoto.

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Speaker 2: For he gets the double play to end it.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, he pitched the night before, and

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he pitched a complete game in Game three, So Dobbs's

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the MVP. Well, it's a great series.

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Speaker 1: Again, this is a boxing podcast, but we thought we

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would give that a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 2: That was insane.

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Speaker 3: If you told me that, if you told me that

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a Japanese Dodgers player was gonna be MVP pretty much

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betting on Otani, not Yamamoto.

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Speaker 2: Crazy Crazy Game seven, and I can't wait to see.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the rating, the audience is obviously going to

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be sky he It's not going to be as big

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as the eighties and nineties when you had fewer channels.

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But the fact that that Canada as a country is

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a different rated market. The fact that Japan, I want

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to know, who was watching Sunday afternoon in Japan could

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be everybody crazy? All right, So we covered a little baseball.

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Speaker 3: I'll just I'll just preface by before we begin our

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boxing discussion that the baseball activity this past weekend was

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far superior than the crepple that we saw in box.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's get to that craple we got.

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By the way, thank you for finding us again. Follow

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subscribe Apple, Spreaker, Spotify. We're recapping right here as we

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rock on. Uh. All right, so I have to confess

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I've only seen highlights recaps of Joshua Buozzi and Ze.

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Speaker 3: Talking about right there yea. If you saw highlights that

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Speaker 2: Yea, and it was not long on social media. I

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do know this.

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Speaker 1: My man David Payne, who I constantly prop up here,

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the boxing writer in the UK, he messaged me and said,

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TJ robbery.

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Speaker 2: So Rayphael, do you agree? Did Zach Parker get robbed?

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Speaker 1: Or was it such a garbage fight it was tough

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to conclude who actually won this light heavyweight main event

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Speaker 3: The immortal words of my good friend. Ron borgis the

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longtime boxing writer for the various Boston newspapers and International

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of when Don King tried to overturn the Buster Douglas

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Mike Tyson knockout, as he said, now you know what

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it's like when you're working at the seven eleven at

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three am and they come in with the gun. That's

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what this was like.

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Speaker 2: It was that level of robbery.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. There's we all have varying

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degrees of agreement or disagreement with scorecards, and we can

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and to me and I'm certainly was not alone. It's

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not like I'm on an island. I haven't seen anybody

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that really was like, Wow, Bowatzi deserved the decision. This was,

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to me, first of all, before we get to the scoring,

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a absolutely horrible, disgustingly, terrible, horrendous fight. I made the

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point on social media it's so bad. It'd be like

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if you're watching Gimore Riggan Doo fight himself. That's how

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bad this shit was. This was unwatchable one man.

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Speaker 1: Again, for those of us that have not seen the

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fight in its entirety, For what reason was Bowatzi disinterested?

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Speaker 2: Unable to do anything? Was he disinterested for what reasons?

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Speaker 3: Well, for a couple of things. One I think Buwatzi

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perhaps it's showing the side effects of the very very hard, rugged, brutal,

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grueling fight that he lost against Colen Smith earlier this year.

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I'm not sure that he'll ever be the same now

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after what I saw in that fight and what I

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Obviously he's a nice guy. I've got nothing against Bowatzie whatsoever,

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it was only a ten round fight, not a twelve rounder,

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he stunk to join out also he came with a

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very specific plan. It was very obvious, let me throw

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a couple of punches, moved it a side, I'm gonna

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grab a hold when I have to. He obviously he

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went down onto the canvas about six times from grabbing

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him around the waist and falling down. I mean, you know, frankly,

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the referee could have done a little bit or better

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job that was that was a problem, could have definitely

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warned him about that or taken a point away, but

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he didn't. So, you know, if if it's working, you know,

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letting you get away with whatever the infraction is or

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Speaker 1: Are sloppy wrestling type fight at times well contributed to.

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Speaker 3: A lot of running I shouldn't say running. He did

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a lot of like punch and move grab, punch and

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a super light heavyweight version of some of the worst

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fights you could watch in the career of Ladimir Klitchko

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were granted. As much of a fan of Vladimir's as

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I am, I would be less and honest that there

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were hots some fights where you know, he did the

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all grab and move and you know, punch and move

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and grab. So it was horrible, but it was working

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and it was effective because he was definitely out landing Biatzi.

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was taking place, to pace of the fight and when

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it was over with. So Carl Frampton, the former world

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champion who does commentary on some of the Queensberry shows

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for his own, he had to fight nine rounds to

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one in favor of park Now, I wasn't that generous

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to Parker. I had eight rounds to two, and I

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saw a whole bunch of scores from people on social

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media and people that texted me afterwards that they had

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a very wide in favor of of Parker. And so

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now when it gets to the scorecards, you hear and

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you know this is always the you know, you're like

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a fuck ninety five ninety five and you're like, well,

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that's the problem right here. In ninety six ninety fairre like,

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all right, that's terrible and it's close, but you're figuring

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Parker's still going to get it. And of course they

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now said Bwatzi got to win. And it was farcical,

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absolutely terrible. So here's what it was. Now, this was

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not a championship fight. They were fighting for, you know,

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a regional belt, so it was not a world title fight.

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It was not even an official eliminator. But Frank Warren

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was making the point in the lead up, because he

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is the promoter, of course for Anthony Yard, who challenges

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David Benavitees for the WBC title in the in the

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Read season or the Read card that's coming up November

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twenty second, was talking up the prospect of the winner

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of that fight, that the winner of Boazzi and Parker

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would be in the running to get a shot at

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the winner of Benavides against the Yard. Well, when you

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see a fight that fucking terrible, that absolutely piece of

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shit fight that I spent and I'll never get those

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forty five minutes of my life back, they basically eliminated themselves.

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I mean, whoever you think is the winner because Bowatze

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looked absolutely horrible, and Parker, I thought fought exactly how

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we had to fight to get to win. But why

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would anybody want to watch that? Again? Like, it's just

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a negative in terms of you know, any fan interest

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or marketability for an event. I ask again, a horrible decision,

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I ask again of.

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Speaker 1: You because you thought it was eight two and again,

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Carl Frampton's a former world champions scring it right there

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at ringside, thought it was nine to one. Are we

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dealing with just gross incompetence from these judges or are

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we suspecting there's something something the farious is up here

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that they wanted to make sure Bowatzie won the fight.

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Speaker 3: However, I mean, look, they're both with Queensberry this. I mean,

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Watzi's the more heralded fighter. He was the Olympian, he

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was the one coming off the great fight with Callum Smith.

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He's the one that at one point had an interim

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title that there's so much high hopes for.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not I'm not making no accusation. I don't

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think the fix was in.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's so you're leaning more towards just incompetence.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean maybe the judges thought they thought that

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certain guy was supposed to win. I mean maybe they

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were turned off by the holding, which is reasonable, but

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not enough to give him six rounds to Bowazzi. So

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you have a judge named Salvador Salva, who Frank I

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had never heard of, who scored the fight six to

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four in favored Bowazzi. You had Greg's Molenda who also

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scored the fight ninety five to ninety five. And then

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the other judge, your boy Marcus McDonald from Britain. He

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had to fight ninety six to ninety four. So he

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stinks as a judge almost as bad as he stinks

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as a referee.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: All right, And like you said, this does not bode

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well for Bowatzi to have any kind of an opportunity,

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at least in the next fight. He's got to show

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something else.

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Speaker 3: I mean, who would want to watch that after that?

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As miserable of a performance as Parker had, at least

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I and most others felt he won. Biwazi had a

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miserable performance and barely won more than one or two rounds.

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In my estimation, if you wanted to lean over backwards me,

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maybe you could somehow find a way to give him,

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you know, four rounds maybe. I mean, if you wanted

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to be just mister charitable for the upcoming holiday season.

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Give him five rounds, but come on, you can't give

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the guy six rounds in that fight. And it was

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just a horrible fight anyway, you know, like I said,

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it was Riggando versus Riggando.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So for the show from match Room in Orlando,

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we did preview that lanier Pero the Cuban fighting Jordan Thompson.

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I was a bit surprised here that Thompson lasted the distance.

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Were you surprised he would be a ten round fight

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go ahead?

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Speaker 3: I was definitely. I was definitely surprised by that. Thompson

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was moving off from cruiserweight, where he'd been you know,

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pretty much destroyed by by Bivel in a fight that

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was not that long ago. He you know, he and

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he hadn't fought for a couple of years, largely because

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he was having hand problems. He had a variety of

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injuries that impacted him. He never liked to see a

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guy's career get thrown off because of the injuries. Obviously

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that's never a good thing. But the case in him,

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he was coming back off a two year laugh and

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moving up quite a bit of weight and he was

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always known as like, oh, by the way, I made

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a mistake. He got knocked out by ji Opataia Patia

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right right, batyah, yeah, my bad. That was a fourth

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round knockout. That was all the way back in September

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of twenty twenty three. So now it's a little over

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two years later that he's back against Pero in the

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new weight class. So apparently it healed up from his injuries.

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As a cruiser weight, he was always known for having

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good punching power, and you know, now you're going in

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against a guy that's that's a natural heavyweight that's been

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in that division. And Paro was a guy that had

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a lot of amateur athletes. He was on the Cuban

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Olympic team. He fought in the twenty sixteen Olympic Games.

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I mean, this is not just a nobody type of guy.

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It's a guy that has a lot of promise, even

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though at age thirty two, he's obviously a little bit

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older than your average up and coming prospect. Hey, look,

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and Thompson put up a good performance. It wasn't it

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was you know, as I refer to the fight, it

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was sort of like, oh hum, just a regular fight.

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It was you know, frankly, the fact that they made

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it a main event was kind of disappointing in the

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first place, just because it didn't really warrant a main

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event position. But obviously I'm sure they're dealing with certain

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budgetary situations with the zone, and you know, this was

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not late the a level matchroom card, if you will.

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It was just compared to Bowatzi against Parker, this was

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like Daddy and work. But it was still it was

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still a pretty bad fight. It was just a very

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regular sort of who home kind of fight. One thing

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was was Thompson, I guess, understandably because he'd been off

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for such a long time, got off to a really

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super slow start, like, didn't really do much of anything

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for the first this as a ten rounder also didn't

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do much of anything for the first handful of rounds.

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Got back into it in the second half of the fight,

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without question, he did got he got rocked really bad

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though in the ninth round. That was probably the best

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round that Perol had in terms of doing damage. And

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in the end, I mean, it was just a kind

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of a whole hoummish kind of fight. No one's gonna

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be like looking to watch a replay of it. Necessarily

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it was, you know, a pretty pretty uh clear cut

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kind of decision. And you know, Perol though for him

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and in this kind of drives me crazy. They kept

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making a big deal about it on the broadcast. Well,

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he's ranked number two by the Well. Being ranked by

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number two by the WBA may be good for him

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in his positioning. But if you're in the reality of

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the world, we all live in the notion that lenniar Perow,

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despite his promise, would be ranked number two in the world. Right,

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it's an absolute joke, beyond comprehension, because he has not

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fought anybody. Right, And if your best win, and this

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is probably against Jordan Thompson is probably his best win.

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He hasn't fought anybody. He's fought an absolute motley crue

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of drek his entire professional career. You know, he's living

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on guys like Joe Caddle, you know, nine six and

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two journeyman that's been knocked out by a bunch of guys.

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I mean, he is not fought anybody. And if your

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best win is a guy who got a nuclearized in

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a Cruiserway title fight, and even before that victory, you're

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number two in the WBA. What the fuck does that

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tell you about how horrible the WBA is.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you bid.

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Speaker 1: Omari Jones did get his knockout on the under card.

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Tell me a little more about the under card in

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that fight as well.

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Speaker 3: So there were two prospects that were very interesting on

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this card. One of them was Omari Jones, who I

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like a lot. We discussed him on the preview. He

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was he's from Orlando, so he's fighting in front of

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the hometown crowd. This is a kid that won the

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only American Olympic boxing medal in the Paris Olympic Games.

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He you know, he's a he's a tremendous prospect in

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the germer middleweight division. Perhaps they'll go down to the

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welterweight division. So there the idea from mattrim here, because

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it again it's only his fourth professional fight. You want

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to get the young kids some rounds. That's that's paramount

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to get that experience. He's he'sy young guy's you know,

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just scratching the surface. He's a twenty two year old kid.

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And now he's now four and zero with four knockouts,

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which is kind of impressive because and they made the

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point on the broadcast, I was thinking the same thing.

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When he came into the pros. He was more known for,

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you know, good boxing skills, not that he's afraid or

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can't get into a solid fight. But nobody was really

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thinking like, here's a puncher. But even though he's facing

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limited opponents obviously, but he scored four knockouts in his

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first four fights, so they wanted to get in some rounds.

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He went two rounds, one round and three rounds in

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his first three bouts, so he's in scheduled six rounders

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since his first fight. So they put him in with

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a tough fighter, supposedly twelve and two guy coming into

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the fight, a guy nam Yusuf met to from. As

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I said in the preview, he boxing a hotbed of

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Tanzania in Africa. But he's a noted tough guy. From

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the standpoint that even though he you know, has a

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twelve and three record, he'd only been stopped one time.

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I'm sorry, going into the fight, he'd only he'd never

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been stopped. He's now got one stop his loss because

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Omari Jones took him out, but he had gone the

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distance in his losses. Uh and the idea was you know,

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bring him in to get some durability and let's see

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if we can get Jones to go, you know, past

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the third round, maybe four rounds, maybe go the distance.

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Even it didn't quite work out that way because Omari

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Jones was all over this guy knocked him down with

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some real harsh right hands and ended up knocking them

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out in the third round and looked really good. And

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it was very highlight realist because when he knocked him down,

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you know, he had him so discombobulated that he was

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doing like the shaky leg day.

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Speaker 2: It was like a gumby and then he did he

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did a kneel down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw, so he looked, he looked. He looked

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really good. Amari Jones is definitely a top prospect to watch.

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I mean, the first left hand that he landed in

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the first round, you know, had him staggered him down.

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And then he obviously he took him out with the

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right hand over the top. He busted up his left

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eye and took him out in the third round and

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that was you know again, he'll be back, I'm sure

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the in January. I think they're gonna have him on

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a show with that matter. Who's gonna do. And then

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in terms of the other prospect that was on this card,

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this is the the British Olympian, the cruiser Way Pat Brown,

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who is got I mean, look, Amari Jones has the

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four knockouts in his first spoort fights. I'm not yet

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convinced he's a puncher. We'll see as the crew develops

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me starts to face better guys. Pat Brown looks like

475
00:21:40,079 --> 00:21:42,480
a real puncher. I mean again, he's five to zero

476
00:21:42,519 --> 00:21:44,960
now with five knockouts. He's twenty five year olds. He

477
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,359
was in the U on the British Olympic team. He's

478
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,920
fighting a little bit now. I want to say better guys,

479
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,359
but guys, it's team like. They're not as walkover as

480
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,119
the guys that Amari has been fighting. He took out

481
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,079
Felix Valera, who was very experienced fighter, has fought some

482
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,720
of the top fighters in the world, although not you

483
00:22:02,759 --> 00:22:04,880
know obviously what he want was and he blitzed this

484
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,920
guy in two rounds. I was quite impressed by that.

485
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,960
So Pat Brown is another guy, and a big guy,

486
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,079
six foot three, solid two hundred pounds. Obviously, at some

487
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,039
point there'll be a heavyweight from Manchester, England another guy

488
00:22:17,039 --> 00:22:19,200
to keep an eye on. So we discussed in the preview.

489
00:22:19,599 --> 00:22:22,079
I was interested, not because I thought these these fights

490
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,559
with with Pat Brown or with Omari Jones were competitive fights,

491
00:22:26,839 --> 00:22:28,880
but you want to see if you're met with the

492
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,519
certain kind of guys your match with, can you take

493
00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:33,279
him out and look impressive? Get fans excited, get guys

494
00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:35,640
like me excited. And the answer is yes, because I

495
00:22:35,759 --> 00:22:38,039
very much look forward to seeing the next time Omari

496
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,319
Jones gets into the ring. I very much look forward

497
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,400
to the next time that Pat Brown gets into the ring.

498
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,200
These guys are definitely people we will talk about on

499
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,000
this podcast, you know, a year and a half, two

500
00:22:48,079 --> 00:22:51,680
years from now, fighting potentially like in World championship type fights.

501
00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 1: All right, And we do want to go back to

502
00:22:54,319 --> 00:22:56,640
Thursday Night because it is a recap podcast.

503
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:57,319
Speaker 2: And MICHAELA.

504
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:02,759
Speaker 1: Mayer did deliver as an easy decision win over Mary

505
00:23:02,839 --> 00:23:06,079
Spencer in the main event in Montreal on the eye

506
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,440
of the Tiger Promotions card.

507
00:23:08,839 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 2: And I didn't fully.

508
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: Understand she not only won the WBA title, but she

509
00:23:12,279 --> 00:23:14,440
won the other two vacant titles. So this makes her

510
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,640
three built unified. Yes, give me more, give me more.

511
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,000
On the mayor win and the ramifications of what it

512
00:23:20,079 --> 00:23:20,480
might mean.

513
00:23:20,839 --> 00:23:24,839
Speaker 3: Look, Mikaela Mayer is a really outstanding fighter and she

514
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,960
does not have a lot of drama associated with you know,

515
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,039
deals to make fights are where I'm fighting fighting, She's like,

516
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,319
line them up, then I'll fight them. She's gone on

517
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,599
the road, She's fought in the UK, She's fought, you know,

518
00:23:36,759 --> 00:23:39,599
in she went fought this fight on Mary Spencer's home

519
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,680
turf in Canada, in her hometown of Montreal. Not only that,

520
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,720
but in a venue at the Montreal Becausino where Mary

521
00:23:44,759 --> 00:23:47,000
Spencer has fought like eight of her fights as a

522
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,720
pro out of her thirteen fights, including like five in

523
00:23:49,759 --> 00:23:52,599
a row. I mean she fought Natasha Jonas in her

524
00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:55,440
own town of Liverpool. I mean she's fought other fighters

525
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,119
on the road, and I mean she's she's a road

526
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,599
warrior from that standpoint, and she's a hell off and

527
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,960
she's making herself into a Hall of Fame type candidate

528
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,880
with the accomplishments that she is achieving. She had already

529
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,440
been a unified champion in the junior lightweight division. She

530
00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:10,880
jumped up and she was fighting at welterweight, where she

531
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,880
had the tremendous battle, great fight last year against Sandy

532
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,759
Ryan and she won the WBO welterweight title. She then

533
00:24:17,839 --> 00:24:21,039
won the rematch against her in much more easy fashion

534
00:24:21,079 --> 00:24:23,359
in the rematch it took place in this year in March,

535
00:24:23,839 --> 00:24:25,680
and when they could not make a fight or there

536
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,720
was no real effort on the other sides behalf, I

537
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,599
guess to try to do an undisputed fight between her

538
00:24:30,759 --> 00:24:33,400
and Lauren Price, who has the other three welterweight titles,

539
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,400
still as the WBO welterweight champion. When the idea came up,

540
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,519
well we can go to fifty four and you can

541
00:24:39,519 --> 00:24:41,880
get a shot at Mary Spencer, who had the WBA belt.

542
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,799
She said, let's do it, and she didn't. There was

543
00:24:43,839 --> 00:24:48,160
no issue. She was willing to travel. She went to Montreal,

544
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,079
she took a tour and Mary Spencer at her at

545
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,480
one time was a top amateur that Michael looked up to.

546
00:24:53,799 --> 00:24:56,480
She was like one of the when boxing first became

547
00:24:56,759 --> 00:24:59,799
an Olympic sports, she was one of the top women.

548
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,480
Then michaela followed and you know, and it has a

549
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,920
lot of you know, helped pave the way, I guess

550
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,200
for some of the women today that are successful amateurs,

551
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,839
but Spencer's also forty years old. She doesn't have a

552
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,839
particularly glittering resume. Even though she was a tremendous amateur fighter,

553
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,720
and Michaela took the tour, even though she was coming

554
00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:21,960
up the weight class, she was looked like a bigger puncher.

555
00:25:22,319 --> 00:25:26,000
She was faster, she had a good chin when she

556
00:25:26,039 --> 00:25:27,720
got a hit with the right hands. Because Spencer did

557
00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:29,920
land some good shots on her, and Michaela is just

558
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,039
a Jesus warrior. She walked basically into everything, kept punching

559
00:25:34,039 --> 00:25:36,079
and just out punched her, out hustled her, was quicker

560
00:25:36,079 --> 00:25:38,599
than her, had better defense than she did, and just

561
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,079
one going away, one hundred to ninety on one squarecard,

562
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,240
ninety eight to ninety two on the other two. I

563
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,799
think I scored it ninety nine to ninety one in

564
00:25:45,799 --> 00:25:49,079
favor of Michaela. Now you asked about the titles, So

565
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,039
she won the BBA belt that was Mary Spencer's. If

566
00:25:53,079 --> 00:25:55,240
you go back a few weeks ago, last month, or

567
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,559
whenever it was, you had the farewell fight for the

568
00:25:57,599 --> 00:26:00,000
great Cecilia Brecho's who had been a long time under

569
00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:02,799
speeded welterweight champion, and she was having her farewell fight

570
00:26:02,839 --> 00:26:05,559
in the junior middleweight division where she was challenging Emma

571
00:26:05,599 --> 00:26:08,079
Co's and for those belts, and she won that fight,

572
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,160
and because it was her farewell fight, she did what

573
00:26:10,279 --> 00:26:12,640
she promised she would do. She said, I'm done. She

574
00:26:12,759 --> 00:26:15,640
won the titles, retired and then vacated those belts, and

575
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:20,519
the sanctioning bodies at wb C and the WBO said, okay, well,

576
00:26:20,559 --> 00:26:23,119
we were seeing Mary Spencer against Mikayla Mayer. They're obviously

577
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,519
worthy rank contenders and in terms of Mikhaela, a champion,

578
00:26:27,759 --> 00:26:29,759
and so they allowed them to fight for the vacant title.

579
00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:32,640
And so now she wins the BA title, and she

580
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,720
wins the two vacant titles, which makes her the three

581
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,839
belt title. Theer in the junior middleweight division. She still

582
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,119
has the title in the welterweight division. As far as

583
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,799
what she wants to do next, she talked about if

584
00:26:42,839 --> 00:26:44,599
the sanction bodies will allow it, I'd like to fight

585
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,039
in both weight classes and just take the biggest fights.

586
00:26:47,839 --> 00:26:50,160
Most likely she'll have to make a decision, and I

587
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,839
guess it will depend on where the biggest and best

588
00:26:51,839 --> 00:26:53,440
fight is. But there's going to be action for her.

589
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,799
It seems to me there are good candidates in either division.

590
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,640
My preference if she could just wave a wand or

591
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,359
I could one and have the fight that we want

592
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,319
to see. I'd love to see her go back down

593
00:27:03,319 --> 00:27:06,200
to forty seven and fight Lauren Price for the undisputed title.

594
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: I will just say this, because we talk about this frequently.

595
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,319
You've already put the WBA and their rankings out on blast.

596
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,000
It's garbage that they gave her two titles. It tells

597
00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:19,880
me they're devoid. You love that word of any real

598
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:20,920
contenders at junior.

599
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 3: I would agree with that at all, because okay, it's.

600
00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:26,839
Speaker 1: My take, so I would like to finish it. I

601
00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:31,000
started for like seven seconds. She didn't fight anybody ranked

602
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,000
in the other two organizations to earn either one of

603
00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:36,240
those belts. It's garbage that they handed her two other

604
00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:39,079
belts while fighting the WBA World Champion.

605
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 2: It's garbage.

606
00:27:40,319 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: She should have to have fought at least one of

607
00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:46,200
the fighters ranked in one of the other rankings to

608
00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:48,039
get one of those belts.

609
00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 2: It's garbage.

610
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,039
Speaker 3: She wins the fightle the title from Spencer.

611
00:27:50,839 --> 00:27:52,519
Speaker 2: Which is the WBA title.

612
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 3: If you are aware of the WBO rules and this

613
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,799
is something that they've done a thousand times, including recently

614
00:27:59,799 --> 00:28:02,480
with Aarents, Crawford and others. If you are a reigning

615
00:28:02,559 --> 00:28:05,640
champion of the WBO and and you delect to try

616
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,559
to fight in the next way class, you are immediately

617
00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:10,680
eligible to fight for that title as the champion in

618
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,440
the in the one way class below.

619
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 2: So speaking, you got to fight somebody else that's in

620
00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:16,119
their rankings.

621
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,759
Speaker 3: That's not true. It's absolutely in their rules in their

622
00:28:19,759 --> 00:28:24,079
purview to approve a world championship fight for w.

623
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 2: Fair enough, and the third belt is what that.

624
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,559
Speaker 1: She's a title and so now talk your way into

625
00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:31,119
how she deserves that belt.

626
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,319
Speaker 3: Because she's one of the best femal boxers in the world.

627
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,079
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean she deserves to be handed the WBC

628
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:41,400
belt without fighting a WBC fighter with the WBC title.

629
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,279
Speaker 2: I have no they have no real stars or marketing.

630
00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:47,359
Speaker 3: I got ninety problems with thanking bodies, and this one

631
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:47,640
of them.

632
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,279
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying to you is when the public

633
00:28:50,319 --> 00:28:53,279
at large says these belts mean nothing.

634
00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 3: They don't mean they mean a lot.

635
00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: Actually that when they mean nothing in terms of significance.

636
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,039
It's things like this that lend credence to that. It

637
00:29:02,079 --> 00:29:05,519
doesn't It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter as much if

638
00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:08,079
you're just being given a championship belt that.

639
00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:12,559
Speaker 3: She wasn't given anything.

640
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: The WBC title when she didn't fight a WBC contending fighter,

641
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,079
and under your own criteria, it has nothing to do

642
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,799
with the wb A ranking and belt she had.

643
00:29:22,039 --> 00:29:25,519
Speaker 2: She was given that belt period. She was given that

644
00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:26,839
belt period.

645
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 3: I feel like if you looked at these two women

646
00:29:31,359 --> 00:29:34,319
very clearly, they're two of the best out there, and

647
00:29:34,359 --> 00:29:36,680
they allowed it to happen. I have no problem with that.

648
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,559
Speaker 2: What women you lost me?

649
00:29:38,599 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 3: What women?

650
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: Who are we talking about now?

651
00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:44,119
Speaker 3: Mikaela Mayer and Mary Spencer are two of the best

652
00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:45,799
female boxers in and around.

653
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:52,319
Speaker 1: Mary Spencer didn't have the WBC title, and yeah, if.

654
00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: If, if, if grandma had a beard, you have a beard.

655
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,359
Speaker 3: But well, I mean we can. We can find examples

656
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,079
in Men's Boxing Office, and all.

657
00:29:58,960 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: Of them are garbage.

658
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,519
Speaker 1: When you get handed a title that you didn't really win,

659
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,599
you're handed the title, That's all I'm pointing out.

660
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: And this is what people think. It's dubious.

661
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,599
Speaker 3: We can we can rip to samection. Somebodies every which

662
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,119
way from Sunday. I feel like this is one of

663
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,720
those reasons that's really in the pantheon of rippage reasons.

664
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:14,640
This is one of them, the.

665
00:30:14,759 --> 00:30:16,119
Speaker 2: Bon of rippage.

666
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: All right, we'll move on and see what she does

667
00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:21,839
next and who she fights next, and uh, stay tuned

668
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:22,119
for that.

669
00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: All right.

670
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: Shall we move on to some news and this is

671
00:30:25,079 --> 00:30:27,480
kind of interesting here and could get intertwined. So the

672
00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:32,799
first thing is Ryan Garcia may be fighting Mario Barrios.

673
00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:35,960
Did you like how I phrased that, Rayphael, Yes, Ryan

674
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,200
Garcia may be fighting Mario Barrios in twenty twenty six

675
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,240
for the WBC welterweight title.

676
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: Part one. Tell me about Part one? That may be OK.

677
00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 3: They have been in negotiations, they're changing paperwork, they're going

678
00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:54,599
through things, they're trying to make the fight. I talk

679
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,680
to people on both sides of this, following up on

680
00:30:57,759 --> 00:31:00,000
a report by The Ring magazine which broke that story,

681
00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:02,160
but it is accurate. They are looking to do this

682
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,720
fight in the first quarter of twenty twenty six. It

683
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,880
would take place, I am told in Las Vegas. It

684
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,680
would be a joint pay per view between the Zone,

685
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,119
which is where Ryan Garcia is aligned and PBC, which

686
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,759
is where Mario Barrios is aligned. The WBC title that

687
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:21,839
Mario Barrios has that he's still lucky to hold because

688
00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:25,440
of the very sketchy draw he received against Manny pacya

689
00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:28,839
that took place in July. The WBC, from what I

690
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,039
was told by the various sizes, they still have to

691
00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:33,519
sign off on this as a title defense for Barrios.

692
00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:35,319
Will see if they do that or not. Still not.

693
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, here we go again with

694
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:39,920
a fighter that hasn't won a fight in over a year.

695
00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:42,599
But here's the big behalf, Ryan Garcia. We're gonna let

696
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,480
him have a title shot.

697
00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:46,119
Speaker 3: Okay, look I get it, but boxing's a business and

698
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,039
Ryan Garcia is a big star. So that's the first thing.

699
00:31:48,079 --> 00:31:50,440
That's the same reason why the WBC hold on hold on,

700
00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:52,799
same reason why many Pakia was allowed after four years

701
00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:54,000
of retirement because he's a leeged.

702
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,599
Speaker 1: Same that reason why they gave Mikaela Mayer the third

703
00:31:56,599 --> 00:31:57,759
title at one fifty four.

704
00:31:57,839 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you.

705
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: It's not quite the level of star of the other

706
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:01,319
Still they.

707
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 2: Don't have anybody else in that division, so there you go.

708
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: I'll go, Well, that's that's by the way, that's another

709
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,799
aspect in terms of women's boxing. The universe of the

710
00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:10,799
top contenders is much smaller. But I promise you there's

711
00:32:10,839 --> 00:32:13,839
a lot of other worthy candidates to fight Mario Barrios

712
00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:17,000
for the WBC welterweight title than Ryan Garcia. My biggest

713
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,880
problem with it, and again this is not knowing whether

714
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,599
the WBC will sign off on doing the fight. I

715
00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:26,880
would assume they probably will, but we'll see what happens.

716
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:30,000
The problem I have with it is that a Ryan

717
00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:32,799
Garcia is coming off of a loss to Roly Romero

718
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,839
in May, and it wasn't just a loss. It was

719
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,559
a bona fide loss, not controversial. He got knocked down

720
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,680
clear as day that he lost the fight, and it

721
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,759
was a horrible fight. So you put it all together,

722
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:53,319
like why should he jump the line? Gets So they

723
00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:55,599
are definitely in conversations to make that match.

724
00:32:56,039 --> 00:32:56,559
Speaker 2: Uh.

725
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 3: And again both sides were bullish on it, and we'll

726
00:32:59,160 --> 00:32:59,920
see if they can work.

727
00:32:59,839 --> 00:33:03,279
Speaker 1: On But but let's go to door number two. Here

728
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:06,400
we go at door number two is the Jake Paul

729
00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:10,079
Tank Davis fight now scheduled, what a mere twelve days

730
00:33:10,119 --> 00:33:13,240
from you and I taping this recap pod Sunday Night

731
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,359
into Monday is in jeopardy.

732
00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: And we don't mean that in the late Alex Trebek.

733
00:33:17,319 --> 00:33:20,519
Speaker 1: It is in jeopardy of not happening because Davis has

734
00:33:20,599 --> 00:33:24,119
yet another accusation of domestic violence. In fact, a woman

735
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,559
filed a civil lawsuit earlier this week in South Florida

736
00:33:28,599 --> 00:33:35,200
alleging that Davis assaulted her at a nightclub early last week.

737
00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:37,240
She didn't waste any time in going and filing a

738
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,119
civil lawsuit. So he is in trouble again with another woman,

739
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:46,039
another domestic violence situation, and it has now cast into doubt,

740
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:49,279
if not great doubt, that Davis is going to be

741
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:52,680
part of whatever this farce is with Jake, Paul and

742
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,720
Big Dan. Is the name Ryan Garcia now on the radar?

743
00:33:58,039 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 3: What do we think? What do we know a couple

744
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,920
about that? To answer your last question, first, they did

745
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,480
contact the meaning the MVP folks did reach out about

746
00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:11,239
Ryan Garcia's availability, and apparently he was told They were

747
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,320
told he is not available in part, and Oscar de

748
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,800
la Hoya, who is Ryan Garcia's promoter at least for

749
00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:19,519
the next fight, made a video for his social media

750
00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:22,000
where he says, look that ain't happening. You guys are

751
00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:23,800
on Netflix. We're on his own. We're not doing something

752
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,480
with you guys. We are with our partner on his

753
00:34:26,559 --> 00:34:30,000
own period. So take that for what it's worth. Secondly,

754
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:32,719
they are deep in this discussion with the Mario Barrios

755
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,920
fight as far as the Tank situation goes, And by

756
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,360
the way they've been reaching out, it wasn't like Ryan

757
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,519
Garci was the only guy. It looked that they they

758
00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:42,639
had reached out for Nate Diaz, the MMA fighter. There

759
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,559
was conversation. Eddie Hearne addressed it on their show about

760
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:49,360
Anthony Joshua. There were other people that they look They actually,

761
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,719
according to Chris Mannicks, who was doing a lot of

762
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,039
reporting in this and did a hell of a job

763
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:56,440
on it, they actually contacted Terrence Crawford about a dailability.

764
00:34:56,599 --> 00:34:59,079
Now if this goes forward, if he then cost forward,

765
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,360
it most likely will not happen on November fourteenth. They're

766
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,800
looking at other dates to switch the whole event into December,

767
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,280
so it would give anybody that would become a replacement

768
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,719
opponent if in fact Tank is out of the fight,

769
00:35:11,159 --> 00:35:13,320
that it would not happen until you know, mid to

770
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:18,440
late December, so we'll see how that goes. Tank Davis, though,

771
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,480
is most likely out of the fight from what I

772
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,360
am told. We'll see what happens. Netflix, you know, apparently

773
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,599
is not real thrilled with this latest thing. You talked

774
00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:28,400
about the civil suit that the woman filed. She not

775
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,519
only did she file the civil suit, but she also

776
00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:34,760
her people have contacted the police that are in South

777
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,400
Faria where this incidents mostly took place. And you know,

778
00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:41,039
obviously you're always innocent til proven guilty in our judicial

779
00:35:41,079 --> 00:35:44,320
system in the United States of America. But Tank Davis

780
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,400
got a problem to keep in his hands. He wants

781
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,719
to put hands on everybody except for Lamont Roach like that.

782
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,199
Speaker 1: And I'm not laughing about domestic violence. I'm just laughing

783
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,159
about the line about Roach because he didn't fight very

784
00:35:55,199 --> 00:35:56,199
well in the fight.

785
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,559
Speaker 2: And here's the bottom line.

786
00:35:58,639 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: He has repeated, repeatedly demonstrated he can't stay out of trouble,

787
00:36:03,679 --> 00:36:06,199
can't stay out of legal trouble, can't stay out of

788
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:09,440
a courtroom. And is lucky he's not in a Baltimore

789
00:36:09,519 --> 00:36:13,320
jail right now for probation violation for the previous problems

790
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,400
earlier in the in the year where again, there was

791
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,440
a domestic violence arrest, and then they elected not to

792
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,960
move forward because the victim would not or the accuser

793
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,599
would not cooperate. And now here we are again.

794
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: This is a different girlfriend who's allegedly that they were

795
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,599
together for like five months. According to some of the

796
00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:34,960
things I've heard and read, and which is what's in

797
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,440
the lawsuit that she filed, she worked as a cocktail

798
00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:42,599
server at a gentleman's club in South Varna. I don't

799
00:36:42,639 --> 00:36:44,440
think she was a stripper, but she was a waitress

800
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:45,679
any of that.

801
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: And he went to the business, assault and assaulted her, according.

802
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,039
Speaker 3: To her according to the lawsuit, attacked her in a

803
00:36:53,079 --> 00:36:56,360
back room that apparently had no cameras or whatever, dragged

804
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,719
her through a stairwell, a kitchen, assaulted her in the

805
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:04,119
parking Uh not the parking lot, but the parking garage. Uh.

806
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,760
And it just fits the bill. This is a guy

807
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,280
in tank who has been repeated. It's not like I'm

808
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,280
not in any way with condone domestic bounds. But you know,

809
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,639
if there's a if you're with somebody for a long

810
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:19,719
time and there's volatility and something erupted, you know, once

811
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,440
and it was long ago, and you've put it to

812
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,840
bed and made up like shit like that happens. We're

813
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,559
all human beings. But when you have a consistent and

814
00:37:27,639 --> 00:37:33,559
repeated offenses allegedly against multiple different women, it's clearly a problem.

815
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,480
And a lot of people in boxing just want to

816
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,840
sweep it under the rug because he generates a lot

817
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,199
of money, he has a popularity. But the reality is

818
00:37:40,199 --> 00:37:41,960
if you look, and you could go on ticket Master

819
00:37:42,119 --> 00:37:45,320
or whatever they're they're ticketing people are for this tank

820
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:48,400
and uh and uh Jake Paul event, and the tickets

821
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,679
were DA They're not selling at all. There was tons

822
00:37:50,679 --> 00:37:52,400
and tons of tickets available.

823
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 2: So the public was hipped to it.

824
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,119
Speaker 3: All right, I'm glad. So anyway, he also threatened to

825
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:00,239
kill her, supposedly in the text mess.

826
00:38:00,599 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 1: And and I'm just saying this, we give our opinions

827
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,400
over and over again. The days of him getting out

828
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,760
of all of this, I mean, he had a felony

829
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,880
hit and run with injuries in Baltimore and basically was

830
00:38:14,119 --> 00:38:20,639
given house arrest instead of jail time because he violated

831
00:38:20,639 --> 00:38:23,400
the house arrest. I mean, how many more breaks do

832
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,000
you have to be given where they didn't prosecute him earlier?

833
00:38:26,039 --> 00:38:29,639
This summer on another domestic violence. All right, so it

834
00:38:29,679 --> 00:38:33,079
appears at this stage he's out of the picture. Can

835
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:36,840
we fairly well conclude, because MVP put that statement out

836
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,760
over the weekend and we publicized it on social media,

837
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,000
et cetera, that they're looking into all of this, that

838
00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:44,639
this November fourteenth thing, especially with what you said, with

839
00:38:44,679 --> 00:38:50,800
the tickets being being poorly moved at this point, can

840
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,360
probably well conclude we're going into December with somebody else.

841
00:38:54,559 --> 00:38:57,559
Speaker 3: Right, can't remember there's other bond at least a bomb

842
00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:01,000
Garner's defending her un disputed title that, uh yeah, at

843
00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:05,440
junior lightweight you have the Gary Antoine Russell's Navatory against

844
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,519
Heroka from Japan. So there's a lots of other people

845
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:08,920
look into.

846
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,599
Speaker 1: There's three other world title fights underneath legit fights. So

847
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,400
are we looking at December? Then they got to find

848
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,280
somebody else when we got the.

849
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,039
Speaker 3: Dates, other dates are looking at in December for what

850
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,280
in terms of the main event was in my opinion,

851
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,239
and it's not like on Monday morning quarterbacking. I've always

852
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,199
felt like, uh, while I'd never i'd never really ripped

853
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,400
Jake Cwford doing this kind of fight because I get

854
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,360
what he's trying to do here. But I feel like

855
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,280
the match with Davis specifically was a very ill conceived matchup.

856
00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:40,519
It's one thing for the public to embrace on Mike

857
00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:43,440
Tyson fight, who is the bigger man at heavyweight the

858
00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:48,639
the legend of legends. Uh, Tank Davis ain't Mike Tyson

859
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,039
and he's nine, you know, sixty five pounds smaller. It

860
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:54,840
was just it was ill conceived from the beginning. So, uh,

861
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,280
if it gets canceled, I'm not going to be upset

862
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,920
about it. I would I was it rooting for a

863
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,280
to get cance or anything like that, But you know

864
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:07,119
what if other reasons prevented it from happening, so be it.

865
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,280
I mean, that's life.

866
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,039
Speaker 2: What is the possibility I'm only speaking hypothetically, And then

867
00:40:11,079 --> 00:40:11,599
let's move on.

868
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: Please, Yes, they say the Jake Paul main event can't

869
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,880
go on, but we would like the other flights to

870
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,079
go on. It's now not going to be a Netflix thing.

871
00:40:20,119 --> 00:40:21,880
Can we do a last minute deal with the Zonne

872
00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:25,239
keep those fights in it? Intact, MVP has their promotion,

873
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,440
they sell whatever tickets they can sell, or is there

874
00:40:27,679 --> 00:40:30,000
zero chance that would happen? They're just going to scrap

875
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,960
the whole thing if they can't figure it out.

876
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,559
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess anything is possible. My experience of

877
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:38,559
other situations that have arisen where you have a main

878
00:40:38,599 --> 00:40:41,159
event that's in jeopardy for whatever the reason. Now, they

879
00:40:41,199 --> 00:40:45,880
probably gonna two things. It's a couple things. Most likely

880
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,320
there will not be an MVP event on November fourteenth.

881
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,440
They will move the fight the event into December on

882
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,920
a one of the couple of days they were discussing,

883
00:40:54,559 --> 00:40:57,639
and either Jake Paul will still fight Tank if whatever

884
00:40:57,639 --> 00:40:59,880
it gets worked out, or he'll fight a new opponent

885
00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:02,840
and the undercard will go along with it, ask Plant,

886
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,519
I mean, it's not that complicated, all right.

887
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: So you mentioned Eddie Hearn. He gave a quick comment.

888
00:41:08,519 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 1: He was in Orlando for this fight card, this Matchroom

889
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,760
fight card, and Chris Mannix asked him directly if Anthony

890
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,519
Joshua would fight this year, and he said yes. And

891
00:41:18,519 --> 00:41:21,280
then I think Mannix even followed up and said could

892
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,960
he fight in December? And he said yes he could.

893
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,800
Now whether he will, that's two different things.

894
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 3: What do we make of this? The question was would

895
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,159
he fight this year? The answer was one word yes.

896
00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:36,440
So now you have to deduce. Okay, if the answer

897
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,599
is yes, that he's going to fight. Remember, for those

898
00:41:38,599 --> 00:41:42,480
who forget, he's off the September destruction last year against

899
00:41:42,519 --> 00:41:45,440
Daniel Dubac, came out of that, had elbow surgery and

900
00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:47,599
has been rehabbing and recovering but apparently back in the

901
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:50,079
gym and doing okay, And it was still unclear when

902
00:41:50,119 --> 00:41:51,719
he was going to fight. So if Eddie says he's

903
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,000
going to fight this year, now you have to look, Okay,

904
00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:57,079
what are the dates that are remaining. Well, one of

905
00:41:57,119 --> 00:41:59,760
them is November fifteenth, which is the two weeks from now,

906
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,480
which is the Chris Hubank Junior Connor Ben rematch, which

907
00:42:03,519 --> 00:42:05,960
is taking place in London, Anthony Joshua's hometown in front

908
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,719
of a big crowd of British fans. Eddie Hern has

909
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,679
another card on December thirteenth that's taking place in Stockton, California,

910
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,480
that's headlined by Diego Pacheco against Lailo Sajo. Then he

911
00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:19,159
has some involved that I guess, or there's a read

912
00:42:19,159 --> 00:42:22,639
season card that's taking place, a ring magazine card. I guess.

913
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,880
December twenty seventh, that is the in a way, you know,

914
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,159
Japan versus the World card where the main event is

915
00:42:28,159 --> 00:42:32,320
in a way against David Allen Picasso for the undisputed

916
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,960
title up one twenty two. So if Anthony Joshua was

917
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,440
going to fight between now and the end of the year,

918
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,599
and it's probably gonna make one of those two cards. Now,

919
00:42:39,679 --> 00:42:41,639
Chris did not mention when he was talking to Eddie

920
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,800
November twenty second, which is another Ring Magazine event that's

921
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,000
taking place in Riad that's the one with David Benavide's

922
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,199
and Anthony Art. Perhaps that might be a possibility. But

923
00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:53,920
if he's going to fight on one of those cards,

924
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:55,840
that's what it's going to be. They're not going to

925
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,719
create a new event for him because the broadcasting situation

926
00:42:58,840 --> 00:42:59,719
is already scheduled.

927
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: Thing I laughed before, he's gonna fight on an undercard

928
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,760
on one of these other shows when he's a headlining

929
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,119
pay per view superstar for years.

930
00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: I don't buy that to rush that. I don't.

931
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,519
Speaker 3: I can only say if you believe Eddie at his

932
00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:16,920
word for something. So the question was could he no,

933
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:18,119
would he?

934
00:43:18,599 --> 00:43:22,119
Speaker 2: Would he? And the answer is yes, yes, all right.

935
00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:25,119
Speaker 3: So that means you gotta go with whatever dates.

936
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,119
Speaker 1: What are the chances that Eddie's got some fight, whether

937
00:43:28,159 --> 00:43:30,000
it's in Africa like you talked about or whatever, that

938
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:32,840
suddenly gets announced late December and he's the main event.

939
00:43:33,039 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 2: That's obviously possible, isn't it. But not yet.

940
00:43:36,199 --> 00:43:38,559
Speaker 3: I guess anything is possible. Look, we got we got

941
00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:41,599
two months left in uh we're now here the couple

942
00:43:41,639 --> 00:43:43,559
of days into November. We got the rest of this month,

943
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,559
we got December. So sometime in the next sixty days

944
00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:49,159
or so, he's either gonna fight or not, and whatever

945
00:43:49,199 --> 00:43:50,840
will be will be. I mean, it's not he's not

946
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,199
going to be a big name of ponent. He's not

947
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,000
fighting for a title. He's obviously not fighting some huge name.

948
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,440
You know. Remember we're going to go.

949
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 1: Ahead and dispel that. It's not Jake Paul, and you

950
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,760
and I have already talked about this. He would actually

951
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,400
he would destroy He would destroy Jake Paul.

952
00:44:03,519 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 3: As Eddie said, if they come to us and it's

953
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,480
crazy money, you know, we probably would do what Anthony

954
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:09,840
Joshua would love to get his hands on, Yeah Paul.

955
00:44:10,079 --> 00:44:13,199
And I mean if Anthony Joshua fought Jake Paul and

956
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:14,960
his elbow was still fucked up, he would knock him

957
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,440
the fuck out. So you know whatever, if he just

958
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,599
wants to take I mean no problem.

959
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 2: Think youay stay tuned.

960
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 3: He would end Jake Paul what what.

961
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 2: What gets sorts of what's gets sorted out of that?

962
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 3: All right?

963
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 2: Mattroom.

964
00:44:26,519 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: Also uh is planning this Raymond murataia Andy Cruz IBF

965
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:34,559
lightweight title fight. Give me more of the of the deeds,

966
00:44:34,559 --> 00:44:36,119
Give me more of the ta You always like the

967
00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:38,400
tea now in the re said give me spill the

968
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,119
tea here, give me.

969
00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 3: The t Mattroom boxing. As we discussed previously. I believe

970
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,400
we discussed this. I know I had written about it.

971
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,119
If they want a pur spid for this fight, yes,

972
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,000
very tie is with Top Rank and Eddie is the

973
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,960
promoter for Andy Cruz, the Cuban Olympic gold medalist. And

974
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,880
so he won that purse bit you know, a couple

975
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,880
of weeks ago for eight hundred and eighty eight thousand dollars,

976
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,440
eight hundred eighty eight th eight hundred eighty eight dollars.

977
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,760
He blew away the purspid that was offered by Top Rank,

978
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,960
which was five hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So he

979
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,559
has the rights to the fight and even though it's

980
00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:11,400
not done yet. I talked to some folks that match

981
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,840
him about the particulars. The target date is January twenty fourth,

982
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,920
and we'll headline of his own card. They have to

983
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,760
get everything signed, sealed and delivered. But basically because it

984
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,840
was done on a per spid and both sides are

985
00:45:22,039 --> 00:45:24,599
ready willing and able to do it, it's pretty much performer.

986
00:45:24,639 --> 00:45:26,880
They just got to get the They're very basic, you know,

987
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,480
inter contracts. They got to go back to the IBF,

988
00:45:29,559 --> 00:45:32,440
so they'll get that done. They have until November seventh

989
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,360
to return those signed contracts to the IBF. Once the

990
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,039
purspid takes place, usually have fifteen days to get them back,

991
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,519
and so January twenty fourth is the date most likely

992
00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:44,599
will take place at the Font and Blue, Las Vegas,

993
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,039
a beautiful hotel where I stayed at. That was the

994
00:45:47,039 --> 00:45:50,119
fight hotel the week of Terrence Crawford's fight with Canelo Alvarez.

995
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:55,119
They have an excellent Blue Live Theater where I attended

996
00:45:55,119 --> 00:45:57,639
two small cards during the course of that fight week.

997
00:45:57,679 --> 00:46:00,320
It's a great location for this type of fight, which

998
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,679
is not going to sell a gazillion tickets, but they

999
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,079
can stop a nice crowd there, and so that's what

1000
00:46:05,079 --> 00:46:05,880
it looks like in that and.

1001
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: It's a compelling fight, by the way, may it's a

1002
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,599
compelling fight, we agree, And.

1003
00:46:10,519 --> 00:46:12,119
Speaker 3: You know, it's a good way to kick off the year.

1004
00:46:12,159 --> 00:46:14,679
You got, you know, a fight with intrigue that you

1005
00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:16,800
don't know who the winner is. That's two good guys,

1006
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,320
two young guys. You know, young. I don't mean because

1007
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,039
Andy Cruz a little bit older, but young in terms

1008
00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:23,639
of their careers or at their championship level. You know,

1009
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,800
mur Tai is just kind of emerging with this title.

1010
00:46:26,679 --> 00:46:30,000
You know, they're both undefeated. So from that standpoint, it's

1011
00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:32,159
a good matchup and it will be a solid way

1012
00:46:32,199 --> 00:46:35,199
to I guess that would kick off the Matchroom Boxing

1013
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,079
schedule of events that will take place in America for

1014
00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:39,239
twenty twenty six.

1015
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,679
Speaker 2: And one other quick nugget.

1016
00:46:41,679 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: We talked at length about Mayweather Pacquiao and many Pacquiao

1017
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,679
confirms they are talking whatever that's worth, right, as a

1018
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,840
final a little endum off the weekend, they are talking.

1019
00:46:53,079 --> 00:46:54,559
Speaker 3: Right, So that was a lot of the reporting, but

1020
00:46:54,599 --> 00:46:56,400
there was nobody that was on the record from either

1021
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,239
side saying that was the case. But when you have

1022
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,559
the man himself who a few days ago attended they

1023
00:47:02,559 --> 00:47:05,679
did the as we discussed the Thriller in Minilo two

1024
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:10,079
card that was headlined by Melvin Jerusalem defending his Strailway

1025
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:13,239
title that as part of pak Yao's team. Manny did

1026
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,880
a press corbence in Manila around that fight, and he

1027
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,039
was obviously asked about that event, but he was also

1028
00:47:18,079 --> 00:47:21,159
asked about doing the rematch with Nanny with between Nanny

1029
00:47:21,199 --> 00:47:23,840
and Floyd, and he acknowledged, yeah, we're talking about doing that.

1030
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,440
I'll read you one of the quotes. He's like, ah,

1031
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,960
there's ongoing negotiation. I'm speaking to my team every day.

1032
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,360
If the negotiation goes well and the fight materializes, we

1033
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,519
obviously we'll announce the rematch. But he went on to

1034
00:47:34,559 --> 00:47:36,719
say that he felt like it was an interesting fight

1035
00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:39,000
right now. I don't have a shoulder problem. And if

1036
00:47:39,039 --> 00:47:41,320
you remember when the first fight happened and he lost,

1037
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,840
he blamed having a shoulder problem. They didn't let him

1038
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,199
take an injection for beforehand. He didn't want to pull

1039
00:47:46,199 --> 00:47:48,159
out of the fight. A lot of people got upset

1040
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,639
claimed that he defrauded them because he went and injured

1041
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,480
and it turned out to be such a garbage fight

1042
00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:55,840
that was so expensive. Anyway, I'm sure the boxing world

1043
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,360
will be excited for the rematch to be made. I

1044
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,119
feel like we are almost in agreement with each other. Uh,

1045
00:48:02,159 --> 00:48:03,800
there are a lot of things we agree on. There's

1046
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,239
a few conditions that are still that we are still negotiating.

1047
00:48:06,599 --> 00:48:08,960
If the fight happens, it will probably be in Las Vegas,

1048
00:48:09,039 --> 00:48:11,400
and those are from Manny pac Yao's mouth. So that

1049
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,559
lends a little bit more credence to the reporting by

1050
00:48:13,559 --> 00:48:16,360
myself and others as it relates to the discussions for

1051
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,800
this rematch that I still feel like I might want

1052
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,079
to set myself on fire before I.

1053
00:48:21,039 --> 00:48:24,039
Speaker 2: After deal with self. Emily, you said yes exactly all right.

1054
00:48:25,679 --> 00:48:28,159
Speaker 1: Other than that, I think we've pretty well covered everything

1055
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:33,079
on the recap pod here coming off the weekend, So

1056
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,920
we crank back up with some interesting fights here in November.

1057
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 2: We get November underway.

1058
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: It is now November, and let's see what happens with

1059
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,199
the fight news and again keep it locked in on

1060
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,079
Dan's substack for the latest on whatever this is with

1061
00:48:46,199 --> 00:48:48,519
Jake Paul and Tank Davis? Does it completely unravel? Do

1062
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:50,119
they move off that date that they at least we

1063
00:48:50,199 --> 00:48:52,880
finally coming up? I mean, we got yes, and we've

1064
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:53,800
got coming up this week.

1065
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,679
Speaker 3: This coming weekend, we got a little bit of Virgil

1066
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,639
Orties against ericson Lubin. Terrific fight.

1067
00:48:58,119 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 2: You know.

1068
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 3: Whatever you think about the fourteenth with Paul and Tank

1069
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,079
or whatever, you know, at least the following day you

1070
00:49:03,159 --> 00:49:04,599
got a very compelling rematch.

1071
00:49:04,679 --> 00:49:06,519
Speaker 2: Yes, we're very interested in that.

1072
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, Raphael Spinoza back in the ring defending the featherweight belt.

1073
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,639
That's an interesting card for Mexico that top rank probably

1074
00:49:13,639 --> 00:49:16,280
will put once again on their on their fast channel,

1075
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,519
the way they did with the MICHAELA. Mayer event. And

1076
00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:21,239
so when we go on and then the twenty second,

1077
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,039
you got that big right, and then so on and

1078
00:49:24,119 --> 00:49:25,880
so forth. We got a lot in a fight. So

1079
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:26,440
it's all good.

1080
00:49:26,599 --> 00:49:28,559
Speaker 2: We got a lot here in November to get to.

1081
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:29,800
All right, my friend, have.

1082
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: A good week.

1083
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 2: We thank you.

1084
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,519
Speaker 1: As always, they need to lock in on the Dan

1085
00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:35,880
Rayfield fight, preaching night, substack and newsletter.

1086
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 2: I'll talk to you later on in the week, my friend.

1087
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 3: Good stuff, all right, TJ. You got it there.

1088
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: He is merely Dan Rayfield offt more watermelon sour patch

1089
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,199
candy for him. I am merely the somewhat competent host

1090
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:52,679
TJ Reeve. You've been with us, like, find us, follow us,

1091
00:49:52,679 --> 00:49:55,760
Subscribe to the Fight Preaching Night Recap pod here on

1092
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,639
the pod feed on Apples, Preaker, Spotify.

1093
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 2: Bye,